Bigfoot Encounters in Tennessee with Elijah Henderson

0:00 He did a stake at with some other folk, and you know they're watching to see who was coming up here taking the hogs. Well, they described that something that looked like a gorilla loped out of the woods, stepped over the fence end of the hog fence, picked one up by its front legs, by its back legs, slung it over its shoulders like that trapes back into the woods. And he said he wouldn't have shot it for anything. It would just made it mad and would come and kill this. Welcome to big Foot Society. In this episode, we talked to Elijah Henderson, a researcher of many different cryptids in Tennessee. What has the Cryptid Studies Institute uncovered in the town of Indian Mound, Tennessee, And what makes this bigfoot entirely like something you've never heard before. Find out this and more on big Foot Society. All right, big Faciety, You've got a special treat for you tonight or whenever you're listening to This got mister Elijah Henderson with me from the Encrypted Studies Institute from beautiful Clarksville, Tennessee. How's it going, Elijah, It's going good, brother, I'm not sure how beautiful Clarksville is, because it's not a lot of nature here anymore. It's mostly city and I hate it. Oh but the cool thing is it sounds like you're getting out in the woods though, when I can after it, when I can, If everybody doesn't mind, excuse my look, Tony. As you can see,

1:33 I sort of have sunglasses shaped sun burned into me. I'm doing construction now, and they've had me outside a whole lot recently. Oh, I got you, I got you. Tell me about So let's talk about a little background first. So tell me all about what is the Crypted Studies Institute. Well, the Crypted Studies Institute is a is the brainchild of my dad, Johnny Henderson. He and another researcher you know, talked about going into a into a cryptic group, and you know, then it was born, so to speak. It's existed for quite a long time since maybe about twenty fifteen or so. But our actual YouTube channel where we do all of our documentaries and whatnot, it's only been around for two three years or so. But in that time it's been a really great experience and a lot of really great things. Talked to a lot of great people, and whatnot, and h yeah, I reckon, we're trucking along. We're our main spot of research is Land between the Lakes in Tennessee and Kentucky, and we find ourselves there pretty often. In fact, I think sometime in May we got a trip with some friends. Planned to go out there too. Oh that's awesome.

2:49 How far away from Land between the Lakes are you, guys? So, Clarksville, Tennessee, where I'm at, where I'm situated, it's in a really good spot because you're close to a lot of really popular miss creature sites or spots of renown. From where I'm at, I'm close to about fifty minutes to an hour from Land between the Lakes, about an hour from Montgomery Bell State Park where the Werewolf Springs is. I'm like twenty minutes or so from the Bellewitch haunting site Hopkinsville where the Hopkinsville Goblins. You know, stuff happened. If you're into ghost you know, close to Lbl's Fort Donaldson, I believe it's a supposedly haunted battlefield. And yeah, white Bluff or the White Bluff Screaming stuff happening. A lot of stuff happened close to here, and I'm all like within an hour of it, so listeners know, so this may the main episode we're going to be focusing on bigfoot? Is the cool thing about Elijah and do you call you? Do you call yourself a CSI or Crypto Studies Institute? Usually go by Crypto Studies Institute, but you know what everybody wants to call us, I reckon. So Elijah, he's telling me beforehand, they started out with Bigfoot and then they went into dog Man. So the main episode is we're going to be talking about bigfoot stuff, but Elijah is going to stick around for a Patreon after Patreon episode where

4:21 he's going to talk specifically about dog Man stuff. Because I was like, man, I've got you on here. I'm trying to focus on Bigfoot, but I would be remiss if I didn't spend some time afterwards talking to you about what you know. From what I've heard, you guys are considered some of the some of the experts on the subject. But the other cool thing, Elijah is you were kind enough to share a few sounds my way. Let's let's start off by playing a few of those and getting your commentary on. Some of them are very interesting, We're gonna playing the big Foot ones and I will save the dog Man ones or the after show for the Patreon. But um, any specific Bigfoot one you want to start out with or just I'll I'll pick for you man dealer's choice. You've got, well, let me let me play it here first and then we will we'll do some commentary. So I'm going to play it one more time a little bit louder I said, it's very interesting, and I think I want to play this the other one right after it because it's kind of y're similar. Okay, So what's the story behind those two, Elijah, So let me give you a little bit of background on the region that comes from that comes from Indian Mound, Tennessee, and Indian Mound is actually about twenty seven minutes from Land

5:54 between the Lakes, which is very ironic. Um, But I have some some people that lives on, you know, a good piece of property up there, and they're basically like grandparents for me. I've known them my whole life, so you know, they they're like grandparents. But they've lived on this property for like sixteen seventeen years, and most of the time they've been there, there's been something on their property. And man, it's been a great research spot down there because it's it's great in the way. A lot of the time you don't have to go out, you know and hike around in the woods and try to stir something up. If you just sit outside with a fire, generally something will come up and start making noise at you.

6:38 Or you'll just be shooting the breeze outside and you'll hear something off in the distance. Oh, there's the big Foot, you know those that whoop that first whoop. We were actually sitting in their yard around a campfire, you know, shooting the breeze with the family, and it's like something got curious and came close, you know, fairly close by and herd activity going on, and it was kind of curiously whooping. I guess to get our attention now that secondary whoop. The people who own the property, they left a a audio recorder out all night and they caught that one. That's how he's gotten a lot of noises. I've actually got like folders of audio clips from him, which may or may not have anything on it. A lot of them. I'll probably just have to go through and see if there's something there. But he's gotten a lot of weird noises just by leaving, like a little tupperware bowl with a voice recorder sitting in overnight. And that second one, I think it might have been called like s two whoop something like that. It a it's a lot higher pitch, So I kind of suspect maybe that was a juvenile because it had like a much higher tone to it.

7:51 Oh. Absolutely, It's like when I heard him, I was like, are these like it sounds like almost like gibbons from the zoo. This is incredible, Like, and these are just out in Tennessee at some dude's properties pretty much. It's well, I'm going to play the second one one more time since we were just talking about it. That's wild, dude, oh man. And it's it's probably the most unique bigfoot spot I've ever been to. And the reason I say that is before I get into that, let me let me give everybody kind of a lay of the land. Indian Mound is is is a pretty rugged spot. You know, it's starting to get some construction in the area. It's it's starting to you know, see some see some traffic, so to speak, but it's still got quite a bit of nature. To it. There's a I believe it's a nature reserve.

8:48 It's called Cross Creeks pretty close by to this property, and uh, there's quite a bit of nature there. We found, you know, evidence of like bear up in the region. You know, there's wild boar up there. But this particular spot where these people are living at it's off the road. You drive up a gravel road up a hill and they live kind of up on top of a hill and they're surrounded by lots and lots of woods. There's a couple of houses like around them, you know, a couple of different properties, but basically it's all out in the woods and some fields and whatnot. Now, one of the thing that probably makes it the most unique Bigfoot spot I've ever been to is that in the time we've been there, it imitates a donkey. And there's not a donkey up there, But when I was a little boy, they used to be a donkey like a way down the road and where they live. From where the donkey was, you would never be able to hear that, you know, it's just too far of a distance. But up on top of that hill where their property is, you will hear donkeys braying out in the woods and there's nothing like that in those woods. And they'll you know, bray in different points on the property. Some I have an audio clip somewhere in there. They're like two or three donkeys braying at the same time. And yeah, man, that it makes it really wild because in this day and age, there

10:22 is no more donkey anywhere around and my name. He's even asked his neighbors before, Hey, you ever hear like a donkey out here? And his neighbor told him there's no donkey out there, ain't been donkey out here long time, or there's never been a donkey out here. So there's something around there that's imitating a donkey. That's wild. I'm gonna play the sound in a few in a minute, but it's just so. The weird thing is is like, you know, I've interviewed people about Bigfoot for a few years, and what I've got so far is bigfoot try to make sounds that don't make sense. There are people that will hear what they think sounds like a car door in the middle of the woods, far from away from any cars.

11:09 It doesn't make sense. And who's to say that they couldn't do a donkey impression, and let's let's listen to it right now. This is really fascinating. Here we go. Now everybody can hear that. There's like two or three donkey sounds there. And historically from when I was a boy, I only ever seen one donkey down the road. That's like three four donkeys there. I don't know, Oh what did I don't know what to think of that man. And it sounds like no tracks have been found, no donkey tracks, nothing like that. Nothing like that. Man. This is all like rugged woods. Like on one side where you could hear some of these sounds, it's a thick wooded hill and it goes straight down a hill like into a deep ravine, and then it comes back up on the other side. It's all just like one deep ravine. I'll be working out there since he's like my grandpa in the day, and I'll just hear like a donkey brain in the woods and I'm like, ah, there's that. There's that big foot somewhere. I've got a recording and I haven't been able to find it. I would love to have it back. I don't know if

12:39 it got deleted or what. We were sitting around the fire there one night because me and my dad we'd made a geodesic dome and put it out on the property and used it like a like a big giant tent, you know, through a welders tarp over the top of it. We're sitting around a fire around that campsite, which was smack Dad right in the woods. That donkey started braying pretty close to the camp you know, real deep sounding, and it sound like he got strangled on something, like it got strangled on its on spit and then started like trying to bray and there was like coughing at the same time. It was a good audio clip. I haven't been able to find it. It drives me mad sometimes I'll be looking through everything can't find it. That would drive me nuts because it's like, yeah, because that's like something's trying to imitate it and then it's got like a frog in its throat or something. It was sent am impressive audio, and man, you hear all sorts of stuff out there. We've heard like things that sound like cows up there. As far as I know, there's no cows, tropical bird sounds, you know, something, stuff that just sounds like out of than the ordinary. At least in the entirety I've been there.

13:52 I've never seen a cow close to that close to that property that I can recall. But sometimes you'll hear it, like some of those audio clips in there is coming like from out of the woods, you know, where nothing like that would be. You said, this is Indian Mound, Yes, sir, it's about twenty seven minutes from the opening of the south end of Lamb between the lakes. Is it named because there is an Indian mound in that area? I would imagine that's why it's named that. Oh man, And I'm friends with a safety man who he used to have, you know, things happened to him down there, some unusual things when he was a younger man, and he has he knows where the Indian mounds are, so they're still down there. I don't know where they are, but he said he was, you know, doing some hunting pretty close to one one night and he gave us like a weird supernatural encounter. Some of those audio clips are as recent it is, like probably around September October twenty twenty two.

14:54 What do you do you have a feeling as to like to you think Bigfoot is? What are you dealing with when you're you're out there. Well, you know, I think he kind of got a lot of things going on. To be honest, you got your You've got your group of people that think it's, you know, something supernatural or something in their dimensional Because you've got all these folks that report it just vanished right before my eyes or I watched it step into a portal. You got your your more unusual stories like that, and then you got something that comes from a more grounded point of view like I was watching it. Uh it was knelt down and eating out of a blueberry bush, you know, just something like that. I've actually got hair samples here that was genetically tested and came back as undocumented primate.

15:46 So I think there is something physical running around in some capacity. But I think a lot of the things people see there is something supernatural, you know, impersonating something like that or appearing as it. You know, there's a lot of confusion that could be spread, you know, of something out there. Demonica is posing as one of these things. You can you can really stir the pot, I know it. That's you do have to be aware of what you're what you're investigating, etc. As some listeners may be aware by m stay tuned for more. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. So you sent it off to a lab and unknown primate. Really well that it wasn't me that sent it off. What happened was when I was a when I was a boy, we used to go to these groups.

16:42 Are you familiar with Mary Green? Yes? Yes, But for listeners who aren't, would you mind describe the quick summer? Yeah? Yeah, absolutely cool. Mary Green was a famous bigfoot researcher and she did a lot of work with the Chattahoochee Bigfoot Research Organization. And when I was a little boy, you know, we joined that group and they would have annual gatherings in standing Stone State Park. That's where they did a lot of research. We've done a lot of research. Is a used to be a really good spot and it's declined pretty badly. But man Green, you know, she's she wrote the book fifty Years with Bigfoot, which they got an audiobook of it on YouTube, but it's it's about impossible to get a physical copy anymore.

17:32 But she's a very well known woman. She would have sort of more and her research it seemed to take more of a personal relationship with the bigfoot, because you know, she would have specific bigfoot she worked with in standing Stone that she would call by name. She'd go into this spot called Grumpy's Place or Grumpy Spot, and there's a sasquatch there named Grumpy that you know, they'd sometimes have experiences with. I forget the names of the other one. That's when I was a little boy, but uh yeah, she uh. For one of those annual conferences that they had up there, they had a sort of raffle that they were doing. They had like a poster board sitting on a table, and you know, they have different prizes, and one of the prizes was some of those hair samples and they had, you know, pictures of the results of the hair that came back from the lab.

18:23 And just as a nice gesture, Mary gave me and my sister like three bags like with a couple of strands of that hair and it and uh yeah, that's how that's how we got ahold of that nice there you go, there you go. I love it. Um chattahoochie. Is that in Georgia or Tennessee? It was Georgia. They well, we'd meet up in Tennessee. It was Overton County at Standing Stone State Park, and it used to be such a good spot, man. But I'm not gonna name names, you know, publicly, But from what I heard, a very well known TV Bigfoot researcher went over there was firing guns and you can't hardly get anything to show up there anymore. I've heard like sort of outside of the park that people have stuff happen, but actually in the park of the old locations. So it has Bigfoot been in your your family DNA for quite a while, Elijah, like our family history and whatnot. Yeah, yeah, sorry that that was a really weird way to say that. It's no problem, got weird. Yeah, family history, let's say that. Yes, so there has been a lot of Bigfoot stores in my family. So my dad, my grandma come from East Tennessee over at Dayton, Tennessee. And

19:55 for those that aren't familiar with that area, it's a small town. Even today it's it's small, but you know, it's starting to get bigger. It's where the famous Scopes monkey trial took place, you know, which was basically the starting point of evolution being taught in schools. It was the creation versus Evolution court debate, so to speak. And that's the same town where that took place. But you know, there's a been quite a bit of activity happen up there. My family used to own some property up there. They would you know, in the sixties, they'd been there for a while, but this took place sometime in the sixties. Where they lived. It was down a old gravel road and there's trees on both sides and they'd kind of curl over like this and you know, make the road really dark at night. It would you know, block out a lot of the light.

20:45 And they'd be coming down that road at night, you know, after getting their business done in the day, whatever it was, and they would hear something following them. I'm up on the hillside, you know. They'd see little stones coming down the hill, you know, kind of rolling down the hill. As it was walking. They would walk, It would walk and follow them. If they'd start running, they would run, or if they just stopped, they would stop, you know, classic big foot. And they would run back to the house and this thing would be coming after him and they closed the door. And they didn't have like a dead bolt or anything like that on their door, so they'd pushed the stove up against the door to try to keep this thing out, and they'd see the door knob, you know, the door kind of shaking back and forth like that, and it didn't seem to know how to operate the actual door knob mechanism, but I guess they'd watched them, and you know, it was grabbing the door and shaking it. Things continued down there, and the family one night was sitting around, you know, listening to Lotta Lauretta Lynn records nice, and they heard some sort of noise coming from the wood from the window.

21:52 They looked over and they seen something looking in at him. I think, I think I was told that it was kind of a growl and a kind of raspy breathing something or other. But it had glowing red eyes his watching them, and it kind of had a monkeyish appearance, but I had a wide nose like an old man, it was described to me. And you know, this was the Deep South, you know, over in Appalachia. So what did they decide to do. They took the rifle outside and they were gonna go try to shoot this thing, but you know, get outside, it's gone, can't find anything. Well, thanks progress a little more and on my aunt Myrtle's farm, they're having hogs come up missing, you know. And at that time, you know, hogs were a staple.

22:34 They were their food. They you know, you could trade them if you wanted to. They were just really a staple resource for the people up there, and to have them come up missing was a big problem. So one of my uncles, one of them, he's not living anymore, but he was one of the meanest men ever by the daylight, you know, nothing really scared him. He did a stake at with some other folk, and you know, they're watching to see who was coming up here taking the hogs. Well, they described that something that looked like a gorilla loped out of the woods, stepped over the fence into the hog fence, picked one up by its front legs, by its back legs, slung it over its shoulders like that trapes back into the woods. And he said he wouldn't have shot it for anything. It would just made it mad and would come and killed us. But I mean, hogs are hogs are massive. My sister's got a mini pig. He's not many anymore, but I can't even wrangle him, you know. So something just coming in there and grabbing actual hogs, grabbing him by the legs, throwing its over its shoulders, and just taking off with it. That's some force there. I cannot imagine seeing that with my own eyes. Man, that be so cool. Man. And I guess the last thing from up at that property that I know of is one of my It was either a cousin or an uncle. I'm sorry I can't

24:06 remember which, But he was riding his horse out in the field around that property, and as it was described there as one of those big foot sleeping in the field, and his horse jumped over it, and it scared the big foot. It jumped up and run. It scared the horse. It started doing this thing, and obviously it scared my family member. Some versions of the story it bucked him off, and some story versions of the story he was able to hold onto it. But either way, that horse jumped over a sasquatch and it terrified both of them. Bigfoot got up and run. And sometime after all this stuff had happened, the neighboring county started having newspaper reports of a wild man around there, and didn't really have anything go on there anymore that I know of. So I guess it moved on whatever it was. That's good. Man. Is that property still in your family?

24:59 Then? No, there's a man, Oh what was it? It's it's like the housing projects they're built there. Now it's on a hillside and it's kind of overlooking well some of the town. But at the at that time, it was a lot more wooded and whatnot. I've got a picture of like the old place. I can privately send it to you later if you want to see sort of where it was at, because it's only like a shot of like one of the houses. You can't really see the woods, but you can see the house that was there as off in the distance. See, this is why people don't get like how how can these sasquatch be seen like so close to the houses. Well, it's because the areas where we're building houses used to be extremely wooded, and we just cut all the trees down and put up some parking lots and stuff. And you know, it's like that's how it happens. It's crazy in your area. Yeah, I love hearing about like the regional Bigfoot stories, like the names.

25:57 You don't hear, the names that you're not gonna see in the books, are there, you know, creatures that are well known in your area to have like the crazy nicknames like that there's an Alabama white thing or any big foot type creatures down in your area, well close to me. Not in Clarksville, because Clarksville's pretty awful. I'm not gonna lie, it's pretty awful. I've heard a Bigfoot story or two from up here in Clarksville, but it's all neighboring things. We got about forty fifty minutes from here with a White Bluff screamer, and that place is unique because you've got almost like two variations of the way it's told. Some variations are is that it's like a supernatural spirit type thing, and then some versions are more of like a told like it was a big foot. Excuse me if I forget some of the details, but it's the most famous story that I know of. It debated to it was something to the effect of every night. This is probably like seventeen eighteen hundreds, something like that. But this feller, you know, he is in his home and late in the night he'd hear just some sort of blood curdling scream off in the woods, and you know this would repeat, I guess for a night or two or however long. But he eventually was hearing it again one night and he decided he was going to go check it out, whatever this was. So, you know, he got his

27:29 gear whatever that was. I guess it would have been a lantern and a gun went off in the woods, storming off after this thing. And he would hear these blood curdling screams, and he'd approach him, but he could never get closer to him. There was always kind of moving further away. And then when he got so far off in the woods, he heard all these horrible screams coming from his house, and he turned around, ran back to his house, got home, and his wife and kids had been just massacred by something. And I remember hearing something like he looked at his window and he could see like a white, bigfoot of shape standing there. And there's I want to say, they had it left like footprints in the grass.

28:14 It almost looked like they'd been burned into the grass. Now, like I said, sometimes it'll be told and more of like it was a spirit. Sometimes it'll be told more like it was a sasquatch. Now I do got a buddy up there who he got some recordings. As I want to say. He said it was as a train was going by, but it sounds like Godzilla roaring in the distance. If anybody wants to hear that, I've got a White Bluff screamer video on my channel and that audio is in it. Not trying to self promote or anything, but if anybody wants to hear the audio, it's there. Oh, everyone should go over. So the thing is, I'm sure half the people have been there and subscribed in the other half need to go there, watch the video and subscribe and hit the belt because Crypto Studies Institute channel is shit. It's good. Should appreciate that. Man, you're good stuff. So yeah, it's going to be in the show notes, don't you worry. But at the end of the day, you're saying that this the story is that this white sasquatch took out a family or almost a whole family. That's wild man. Yeah, whether it was a big foot, some sort of evil spirit something, that's one of the stories attributed to it. And now I mean just right close to that area. I mean it's basically saying Mary, I thought White Bluff is basically smack dab up against Montgomery Belle State Park and there's big foot activity up there. My dad seen and another researcher named Nathan Davis seen three of them

29:47 up there in two thousand and nine. And even Mary Green, who we talked about earlier, said that the bigfoot up there were known to be kind of of a violent variety. And on the back side of the park there you got were will springs where his Doorcally, there's been more uh what seemed to be dog man sidings up there, violent dog man sidings. So all this crazy stuff is going on in the same area as the bell Witch Cave. Well uh from Clarksville, it's about twenty or so minutes, so it's probably like an hour or so from Montgomer bell State Park. But it's all roughly in the same are I mean, bell Witch stuff happened in Robertson County and in that same county. You know, there's been bigfoot reports, there's a you got the Critter of car Creek up there. Stay tuned for more.

30:40 Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. It's a weird area, man, dude. I mean that's close enough for me, Like I if I'm if I'm like an hour away from the bell Witch Cave, that's that's close enough for me. That's stuff that's wild, man. But tell me about the Critter's his story on the critter there, Well, the critter car Creek gets kind of described as like a like a hyena, and you can find newspaper reports about it, the Critter of car Creek as they called it. And every now and then people still see some sort of hyaena's looking canine up there. I got a friend who we went to a Bigfoot conference in Lamb between the Lakes with him, and he was saying, he's seen something like that down in a creek, and what's kind of ironic. I work construction, so you know, I'm around a lot of people. I shoot in the breeze with this guy. You know, I'm an expeditor and he's in the trailer next to me. He's an electricians expeditter and we're out there talking. One day he said he was from Robertson County, Springfield area.

31:48 I was like, man, they still see them hyaena looking things up there, and he shook his head, Yeah, they people still see him up there. WHOA, So maybe that's some of the dog man that are up there, you know, because sometimes they'll go from on all fours to upright. Maybe it's like a just some hyaena that was in a circus show and got released up here. I don't know, man, but some of the some of those, uh, you'll see the name America's Hyena thrown around on the internet. Or something's being seen and listeners may have just got a little bit of a hint as to how to ask someone about if they've seen a creature the good way, which is, hey, you ever seen the you know, just be nice about it, be kind of you know, don't be super direct and serious. Just be a nice guy, and man, you're gonna get some info. That's that's how you do it. Man.

32:52 I tell you what, being around all these people construction, they know exactly what I do. I'm always shooting the ease with them about Bigfoot and whatnot. And I'll go up to him and I'll be like, man, you know, this is gonna be random. But in my experience, it seems like everybody's got at least one bizarre story to tell in their lifetime, at least one weird thing's happening that they can't quite account for you ever had anything like that? And he'll kind of be like, well, you mean like supernatural, I mean like, yeah, you know, supernatural, bigfoot, anything like that. And he'd be like, well, I was in this house when I was a young man and it had a it was attributed to be haunted, and me and my buddies are up there, and we're up in the attic and all at one time, out of nowhere, all the doors in the house, every single door in the house just slam shut all at once, and we got the heck out of there. And I don't think he's a gentleman that generally believes in that type of thing. So everybody seems to have at least one story to tell generally. That is a great piece of advice too, about how to approach someone like what's your what's your weird thing? Oh that's so good man, I love it. I'm gonna I'm gonna remember that one too. Are you a guy that tries to go after the reports that are held by the state Forestry and the state parks in your state? Do you do any of those report things or stick mords

34:24 to witness reports? Well, we sort of just have areas you know, we've always went to, you know, as family, like, hey, there's a man activity up here, let's go up here. So I usually hit the same spots over in Dayton, Tennessee. There's a park up there called Pocket Wilderness or I think the newer names like Laurel Falls or Laurel State Falls or something like that, but the town's always called the Pocket Wilderness. The one of the rangers, the officials up there, he'll be pretty open and just tell you, yeah, there's big foot in this park. I've had people that let me back up, there's like a there's been a like a lot of coal mining done in that park before, and there's a ventilation shaft that you can walk up to that's right along the path. Basically on one half he got all these this beautiful water rushing and big giant boulders, and on this other side he got the hills going right up to the mountain.

35:19 It's most beautiful park I've ever been to. But there's a ventilation shaft on excuse me, one of those hillsides and he's had like five different people tell him that they've seen a big foot coming out of that ventilation shaft. It only goes so far back, but it's you know, it's full of water and whatnot, and maybe something goes in their drink or just get sheltered. It's not extremely big, but even he's seen it. It was throwing stuff off of one of the hillsides at his truck. I remember he said something like that. Someone told him they were hiking up somewhere along the hill and they've seen one up there. I believe it was a reddish color and it was a fairly violent big foot. Well, yeah, I've got him.

36:05 I wouldn't post it because I wouldn't want him to, you know, lose his job or anything. But I've got audio of him recorded telling us about it, and even his boss told him, man, stop telling people this stuff. You're gonna scare somebody. But he just seems to keep telling people. How do you get a park ranger to get like to be like you just ask him, hey, you're okay with being recorded talking about big foot or go down. He's super cool about it. He'll go up there and he'll just kind of be leaning on a post. He I guess he loves the history of the park. Real good guy. He's like, you want some history and you'll go up and just shoot the breeze, and he'll tell you about like the history of the park, show this like photo album he's made of, like the ventilation chafts, and there's like an old dynamite shack he'll show you pictures of, and he just kind of, I guess, just sort of transition the conversation, or at some point he may just kind of tell you, yeah, there's there's something up here. But I remember even seeing somewhere online where somebody was talking about the ranger up there, you know, telling him a big foot stories, like just some random post online. So he's super open that guy. Yeah, he may still be up there. I haven't haven't seen him in a long time. But that's wild, real cool guy. The thing I love about your area it is so rich with just wild, untamed stories of creatures and supernatural and things you

37:37 can't explain, and everybody seems to be into it. It is awesome. It's a weird spot down here. Man does never get old. I love all I love all sorts of weird stuff. So I'm like, oh man, we got all this down here, we got bigfoot over here, we got dog men over here. I love it. Then I mean it's like you're you're living Scooby Doo pretty much like you just go out on the weekends and Yeah, what's really ironic is where I live. Historically before this was Tennessee in Kentucky, some organization called like the Henderson Organization, which is ironic, the Henderson Foundation something right, Uh, now, maybe it's just a bunch of Henderson's, but they are with the transil I think it was the Transylvania Company. And this land around here actually used to be called Transylvania.

38:28 So I mean, how's that for ironic? You know, jeez, wow, that's weird man looking for monsters in Transylvania. M That's that is crazy. Was there ever a time that, you know, I know you said earlier that you earlier in all this you guys were big Was there ever a time when you're out looking for Bigfoot that things just got to a point where you're like, you know what, I'm not sure if I want to be right here right now, Like it's just got a little bit too crazy. Well, actually, there has been a time or two like that over in an Indian mound. It was I'm still fairly fairly young at the time, I was with my dad, um fellow researcher his name is Jason Acy, and my sister, and we're walking. It's on somebody's like around somebody's property, like where they've built now, so we can't really get to it as well as we could years ago now. But we were crossing one of the fields out there and there's a there is a cave off on in the woods somewhere over in that area, and we're going to that cave. It's it's a big rock face and it's it's a pretty narrow gap that you can crawl into and it opens up, but it's a fairly decent sized cave, but

40:00 it's it's a tight entrance in the front, you know what I mean. But anyway, we were going to that cave and we spied some blue eyeshine off in the woods, which there's not really a lot of animals that give off blue eyeshine. We had heard that juvenile animals have a blue eyeshine color, and we didn't know if maybe there's some sort of a like a juvenile sasquatch there. It is low to the ground and there's kind of a ditch behind where it was, and you know, we shined at lights at it and just kind of stared at it for a few minutes, and then went further off in the woods toward this thing, well toward the cave my bad. And we're walking along and I got this audio somewhere. You hear just something snapping. You can hear like the individual fibers of the tree snapping, and then boom, this tree just slams on the ground. And I heard something hollering. I don't think anybody else with me heard it, but I heard it. And that was one of the only times my dad is ever drawn his gun in the woods. He's like, yeah, Jason, you and me, we can come back if you want, but I need to get my kids out of here. You know this is this is dangerous, and he had his gun out and ready in case something, in case something came out, but we left. We didn't know if maybe we got too close to its juvenile and it was kind of letting us know he stay out of here. But that's one of the only times I've ever seen my dad draw gun in the woods. And we're not like pro kill people, but you know, we're pro if something at taxes, we're gonna we're gonna defend

41:32 ourselves, you know what I mean, You're pro I'm gonna get out of this alive. If I have anything to say about this, absolutely you can attack me, but I'm gonna go out fighting, you know what I mean. That's right, that's right. I don't know what your thoughts about this, but it's like if someone actually, you know, let's say these groups where it's like we're gonna take down a big Foot, Well, dude, you might, but it's gonna be the worst day you've ever experienced. After you big Foot and the other three come out just disgruntled as all get out, And dude, you guys are going like, I don't want to wish bad on anyone, but he's just like, man, you just be careful. If you're going to take one down, you better be ready for its brothers that are coming after you. Well, you know, you got all these stories of people shooting these things and nothing happens, but you don't hear a lot if if if people try to shoot toward the face and eyes or the neck. You know, if I was going to try to shoot something like that, I would aim for probably either the neck, the mouth, or the eyes. You know, so the sensitive areas. That's interesting.

42:40 Yeah, that's very interesting. I've yeah, I've never thought that deep about it. I'm a I'm not a a super outdoors man, if if you can imagine, but uh, yeah, that's interesting to think. That's an interesting discussion there. Well, if you I mean, if you think about it, if it was something, you know, some sort of ape like thing that's as massive as people say, you already got a lot of thick muscle in its chest, and then you got that thick chest bone that the bullet would have to penetrate, and if and if you aim for the head, you know, if it's if it's like an ape, you also have a lot of apes have kind of that thick brow that you'd have to worry about as well. So you better better be carrying something with some knockdown power, you know, just something like that. I think we'll go to LBL mare Night or something. Dude, that is man, this has been a a super fun discussion, I think a good intro discussion to what what you all are up to down there in Tennessee. And guys, you need to go over to Elijah's YouTube channel next after you're done listening to this and you just need to start watching some of those videos because there's some wild, wild stuff going on in there. Um, Elijah, thank you so much for hanging out with me. In the main show, We're going to be talking for a little bit longer about some dog Man stuff, some LBL stuff that's

44:10 going to be for the Patreon after show. I've got maybe some other questions, ask you about some other non Bigfoot relay creatures. Absolutely please take it. Take a few minute. If there's anything else that you would like to make sure the listeners know, anything you need to plug besides the YouTube channel, go right ahead. Man, Thank you, brother, And I've had a blast on here as well, just so you know, thank you. My main outfit is Crypted Studies Institute. My main platform is YouTube. You know. I upload all my investigations, documentaries and whatnot all there. You know, you can find most, if not all, those sounds. Well not the not one of them because I just haven't uploaded it. But yeah, a lot of our sounds are on there. You can go and listen to or they'll be in the videos for each area. Well, yeah, come over and check out the channel. Let me know what you think.

45:09 We got a lot of different a lot of different dog man research videos. Bigfoot got a lot of different things on there. And yeah, I guess it's all I guy. If you want to send me a friend request on Facebook, feel free to. We're on Facebook. We got an Instagram that I don't really use anymore. Sorry, but yeah, that's basically it, y'all. That's awesome. And if the cool thing about this podcast is I have like listeners all over the place. If there's a person, let's say that they know something weird in that area, how best can they get in touch with you to say, hey, man, I gotta I gotta tell you about what happened to me in this area so you know about it.

45:51 Well, you can always drop me a comment on YouTube, send me a message on Facebook, or my email is crypted Studies Institute at gmail dot com. I'll try to get back as quick as you know, when I can. I'm I'm sorry. I'm bad about getting back quickly. You know how that went, Jeremiah. I have good intentions, but I'll generally forget to reply back to somebody. I'll get a message, oh yeah, I'll reply that in just a few minutes, and I'll forget it'll be like two days later. Well yeah, I'll try to get back to everybody when I can, so so listeners, if you've got stuff that you haven't told anyone about the Tennessee area, hook my dude to Elijah up. But Elijah, thank you so much for hanging out. And remember, if you're in the Patreon go have a listen because we're gonna be talking about LBL and dog Man and the rest of y'all can check that out too. Patreon dot com for Slash big Foot saldy with thank you so much for coming on, Elijah, I no problem. Brother. Become a supporting member of the big Society podcast by going to www dot Patreon dot com forward Slash the Bigfoot Society and receive extra episodes and early ad free episodes as well. If you've got a personal bigfoot encounter you would like to submit for me to share on the podcast, please head on over to www Dot Bigfoot Society podcast dot com. There you'll find

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