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0:52 Hey, it's going real good. I just appreciate you having me on. Looking forward to the evening. Absolutely, Mike, let's get right into it. I know you've got some interesting things to share, so I'm going to go ahead and give the floor right over to you and share with us what you've experienced so far, if you don't mind. Well, my journey with this started in December of twenty nineteen. That's as far as the journey of finding my first pieces of Bigfoot evidence, and it kind of goes back before then. I'm fifty fifty eight years old, so i'd have been fifty four probably at that point, somewhere around there.

1:38 But I remember at age twelve checking out a book from the library and reading it called On the Track of Bigfoot, and that you know that stuff. You know, that was published probably in the mid seventies, so that kind of covered things up to that point what they knew Carl Krue or Jerry crwe in the Footprints, Patterson and Gimblin, things like that, and I thought, this is kind of cool. It's a cool subject. There's probably something to this, but it seems like everything is up in the Pacific Northwest, and I just left it at that. Then you get busy, you're playing sports in high school and going to college and getting on with your family and things like that, and totally ignored and forgot about anything Bigfoot. It never crossed my mind again until these cable TV shows started coming out, you know Monster Quest that was that was one of the first ones I started watching, you know, Finding Bigfoot, and they you know, you watch those shows and they're made for TV, their Hollywood entertainment. But then you're thinking that everybody is lying about this stuff. There's got to be something to this, you know, these guys really getting on TV and making these stories up. And so had an interest peaked. And then when my youngest of two kids, my son, when he got through playing college baseball, and you know, we

3:09 were just a sports family. We were you know, daughter swim meets his baseball games. You know that all that stuff got done. He wanted to continue to have a hobby that we could do together, and he suggested hunting and fishing and things. You know, we didn't do a lot of that because we were always doing the team sports and things. So I said, yeah, cool, let's do that. And in my in my county, Cape Girardo County, Cape Gerardo, Missouri is where I live. We're about one hundred miles south of Saint Louis on the Mississippi River. The big conservation area in the north part of the county. I said, well, that's public land. Let's go up there, get the hunt licenses, and you know you're a little shooting, go up there and check it out for some squirrel hunting. And came across a set of footprints December twenty nineteen. These footprints were seventeen and a half inches long. They were about eight inches at the whitest part. They had about a five foot stride length. We saw about four or five steps.

4:17 We saw right foot, left foot, right foot, left foot, and you could clearly make that out toes And it just floored me that I was looking at that, and my son even knew what we were looking at. You know, you just you do the math. No, who has feet that bag in December in Missouri, It's going to be walking barefoot? Nobody. We're both he's six', Six i'm six. Five we both wear size fifteen, shoes and it just swallowed our boots up And i'm, like it's got to be. Bigfoot but who would have thought right? Here who would have thought right here In Cape Girardal. COUNTY i never would have thought, that never to believed. That and fast forward that Was december twenty. Nineteen, well what happened In march of twenty TWENTY. Covid they shut everything. Down they closed my. WORKDOWN i work at a high. SCHOOL i teach high. School i'm athletic director of in the area high.

5:23 School they closed us. Down you couldn't go. Anywhere everything's. Closed they can't keep me from going to the. Woods SO i started going to that same conservation area over and over again and looking, around you, know and every TIME i would, GO i would see more bigfoot, evidence and then bring a, friend you, know get a couple of friends. Involved there's three or four of us now doing, this and we're going up. There you. Know you go up, there and then after a, while as you see the, evidence you hear the. Whoops you. KNOW i guess if you're there enough, times they kind of recognize who you, are and then they starting reaching out and making some kind of. Communications let you know where they're. At you, know this one's up on that, ridge that one's up on that. Ridge, HEY i got three of them watching me right. NOW i better get out of, here get to the, car leave. Curiosity come. Back after two or three times, That i'm, Thinking, okay they're not going to hurt, me or they would have done. It so you just keep doing a little bit, more and then we, decided, hey let's a couple of primitive camp sites up. There let's camp, out pitch a, tent stay. Overnight AND i remember the first the first few times we did. That you get all these you, know and we did. That we bought all the, spotlights the game, cams night, visions

6:58 all that, stuff set up a pre game cams and we'd get, nothing and we get, nothing but we knew they were there because we'd hear them in the. Distance and then AS i started getting into these social media bigfoot, networks you hear other people talk about maybe they've tried a little bit. Differently SO i told one of my buddies one, time let's just put all the cameras. Up let's just put all that. Up let's just us and whatever comes in, nothing nothing, lightwise but a. Campfire and it was then when they started paying us closer. Visits and that's, when you, know that's when we started having some real cool moments and some, interactions and you, know you you communicate back and forth with, one you, know there was one THAT i got to wear WHEN i would go out. There for about a six month, period we would actually verbally communicate back and forth with each.

8:04 OTHER i think it was a. Female she'd stay in the tree, line she wouldn't come out and expose, herself but we had the verbal communication going and that went on once a month for about six straight, months and the communication would last sometimes ten fifteen, minutes and then you, know then she'd go on her. Way and so we had some real neat experiences and still later On i'll share my latest experience with which is just, awesome but the up. There and THEN i got to know some folks that had some stuff going on on their property two counties away and started working with. Them and that's just been in the last year and two three months that we've been doing, that AND i actually actually had my first good siding at their. Place my first good siding was back In december this. Year and that's when you that's, When, okay everything that you've, studied everything that you've interacted, with everything that you've dealt with in four years now has finally come to. Truition Where i'm sitting there looking in the eye of A sasquatch at about forty yards and no mistake in what you're looking, at and probably we probably looked at each other for about fifteen,

9:36 seconds AND i never felt any fear Because i've been waiting for this for four. Years you, Know i've been in amongst them for four, years and plus we run the private property where the family has a relationship with. Them SO i felt, like you, know this is. Cool this is so. Cool you've exposed yourself to me and let me see, you AND i think this is so cool THAT i just kind of told him, That and after about fifteen, seconds he gets kind of turned around and mows it back into the. Woods he'd probably had to be about ten foot. Tall the head and the shoulders were so. Massive you, Know i'm six,' five a little north of three, hundred pounds and it was just it were three times of me at the head. And shoulders it was really.

10:19 Really CRAZY so i have a few questions about. The whole it sounds almost like a habituation type deal. Going on there are a few counties over from where, you're AT which i want listeners to. Realize That So, Cape girardo missouri is in the, southeast corner so you're very close To Southern Illinois little. Egypt, Area correct. We're real close To The little. Egypt area the place that we Researched At North. Cape county the conservation area is really right Across The mississippi river From The Big.

11:06 Muddy river and everybody has heard Of The big muddy Monstery, southern illinois so you Know The. Big buddy where, we go it's about twenty miles North, of cape the north side of, the county And The big money is just Across The. Mississippi river and then we're In the, missouri side and and, you know there's plenty of plenty of sasquatches up there on both sides of. The river so the that's the OTHER thing i found out is there there are a lot more of these out there than people, can imagine because exactly just in my, four years where we Go In, north Cape Just North, Cape, county london that one, conservation area seeing every size footprint increment from ten inches to twenty. Four inches i've seen ten, inch footprints, eleven inch, twelve inch, thirteen fourteen all the way up to twenty. Four inches AND and i can take anybody there's two places. UP there i can take anybody up there on any given day and almost guarantee we'll find footprints because it's it's travel ways.

12:28 For, and wow that's. That's incredible so the, Habituation Area so i'm curious right off, the bat what kind of you said that they are having some kind of interactions or is it a gifting type situation or or what a type of interactions is this family having With the sasquatch on. This, property okay, those guys those guys have got they've got, a farm they've got a little, you know they grow. Some produce they've got some greenhouses they've and its started with them That the sasquatch was coming and raiding. The greenhouses they didn't know what it was, at first and they thought people were. Doing, that well we're going to get.

13:22 Those people, you know we're gonna, sit traps, you know We're gonna well then they find out it's. Not people uh or it could, be people depending on how you viewed, the sasquatch but. They so and the one of the young men with the family that kind of reached out of one Of the facebook groups, LIKE hey i got some stuff going, on here and a Couple Of Carter carter bruschard. CONTACTED them i got with them and they built a relationship with them and made my first visit out on their property about a Year, ago JANUARY and, i suggested in addition to what, they have because they learned to share their vegetation with the With the, sasquatch family that's UNDER and i kind, OF suggested, i, SAID look, i said you got two. Options here you can run them off and they could turn it right back around and make your life miserable very, much so or you could learn to live. With them and and the neat thing was that they were That the sasquatch wasn't taking all.

14:34 Their stuff they're just taking portions of, it anyway and they still had a. Fruitful farm AND then, i suggested in addition to what, they're doing we set up a gifting bucket and try a. Gifting program so and then. We did we start That. Last January and i'd just get the bucket and put the bucket up there at the edge of the, woods there and, you know put apples, in it and peanut butter jar, peanut butter, you know, you know things of, that nature and and started getting some, minie rest. You know they, of course they really enjoyed.

15:19 The apples and they didn't get apples at. The farm they enjoyed the, peanut butter but they would take here's the things we Started noticing. Big for society will be right back after. These messages. They would take the peanut, butter jar take it back to the camp or wherever it is. They stayed and then when the peanut butter jar was empty, and done they'd bring it back and set it back in, the bucket and we'd put some of those little sweet and salty granola bars. On there they would tear open, the wrapper take them out of, the wrapper and then they would either put the wrapper back in the bucket or they'd stick it up there in a nearby, tree limb just so we could, see it so they're not littering.

16:21 The forest and then we come back up and check either them. Or me we'd gather up. The wrappers they're all, right there and, you know and properly. Trash them they leave little glyphs. For us and one glyph was in the shape of a human, stick figure and and and and it had very. Positive interactions of course They were i'd go up once every three or four weeks to fill the bucket and, visit them and and they, YOU know i wasn't seeing them they would, see them they would have the interactions. With them they worked the farm, every day and one OF the i think the oldest kid in The big foot group would would and he was probably about seven. Foot tall he would come down and shadow him and watch him work at the farm, and curious and, you know they're working the farm and looking over, their shoulder and there's, You Know junior bigfoot or whatever you want to, call him, you know about twenty.

17:20 Yards away, watched him and and this kind of stuff went on, with them and they got to where they were fairly comfortable with. Each other and and BUT when i would, GO up i wouldn't. See him i'd see all. The evidence and then and then, went up did a couple overnights that just a couple of, night times spent the, night up but still didn't hear, hurt them didn't still. But, didn't finally It was DECEMBER when i was filling the bucket Up in december is when finally the one exposed itself TO where i could see one one of them in the in the in that family and the one of the farm owners had seen him up there in the woods and was talking, to HIM and, i said do, you, See yeah i'm finishing. The bucket and, she, said yeah, she says come over and take. A LOOK and i went over and took, a look and, sure enough and she said there were two other the younger ones, with him but they had gone into hiding by THE time i got, over there and he was, you know we've just sat there, and looked, you know about forty. Yards AWAY and i said some real nice things, to, HIM said i hope you appreciate, you know the treats and, you know there for, you guys and he just kind of swayed that head back and forth a, little bit and about fifteen seconds he. Just turned he just kind of walked back in wherever the young, ONES went, i guess following him back into. The WOODS so i guess he was coming, to, say hey, you know thanks for the thanks for.

18:47 THE treats i, don't, know, so like there's been so many years that you were getting into the subject and then you finally have a visual, you, know sighting which everyone wants to, have that and you know how how did that affect you emotionally during? That moment what were you feeling inside when, You're like i'm actually finally able to look AT one. I, JUST felt, i mean my, feeling was this is, so cool, you KNOW and i have at, This point i've it's been a four year journey for me to get to. This. POINT now i had seen one EVENING that i know was, a BIGFOOT but i COULDN'T just, i mean it looked like a real dark shadow happened from behind one tree to behind another tree at about twenty five yards during the evening hours when it was almost, you know. Pitch DARK now i could. See that and then another time Over In madison county at, THE farm i saw one peeking around the tree at about, seventy yards just kind of you see. THE hipop i didn't even recognize IT til i saw the start seeing the movement because they, pointed, out yeah there he is. Up there there he is up TO where i don't, See.

20:17 Anything betree, they said you see the they're like a little bulge, coming out go. Back in but never a good sighting to. That moment and it was THAT moment, i thought this is just, so cool. You know. Was there anything that surprised you about what you were? Looking at any details that, were, like wow this is, a lot this is different THAN what i was expecting Than what i've seen. IN pictures i. Didn't realize, you know they Call him bigfoot for. A reason i've seen the prints up to twenty. Four inches this one's prince were about twenty Inches that i've seen, multiple times which probably about ten. Foot tall and the massive size of that head no neck going down into, the shoulders and the conicle over the head was very EXPOSED to i just didn't realize the width and the size were just. That big, it's just, you know even though you hear well ten, foot tall eight hundred pounds, OR whatever i just seeing it brings out the light that these things are really. Really huge and that's what, you know no flab on them, at all, you know everything is just, solid build. Body build.

21:52 So that's. That's interesting, SO yeah i guess go into that a little bit. More so i'm guessing there was some hair on. The creature, but yeah are you saying that you could see things a seat under the hair? As, well no because it was in the shade of the forest at ABOUT forty i could see the, dark HAIR and i could see some of the, FACIAL features, i know the eyes and the nose that and you can see it's kind of didn't have a lot of hair on, that area but the rest of it you just see because he Was on he was on all fours at, the TIME and i could see him from about to, chest UP so i didn't really see the legs or or the length of. The arms but even on, all fours he was almost looking me in. The Eye and i'm six. Foot five and when he turned around, and started he stayed on. ALL fours i could see the BACK of i could see down he had a little silverys shoved spot on, his back which they always told me they Called him silverback because. Of THAT and i could notice that is it lightened up on the backside as he went in behind the so so that was but it was just it was just so cool looking at THAT and i. DIDN'T think, i, THOUGHT well i just wanted to just. OBSERVED him i didn't walk in.

23:24 TOWARD him i didn't, you know some people may run toward him to try to get a. BETTER look, I thought i'm going to respect the situation and and appreciate. The situation. What what's the closest you think they've gotten To silver back on? That property since there's a there's, a habituation situation going on. The closest they got the silver back is probably. That, close uh it's it's, the kid, his kid the one that's about he is about he's probably he's probably about eight foot tall, by now but he's that they've actually had physical contact with him as far as, reaching out tapping the shoulder and things. Like that he's he gets out acting with him and is playful. With him but you.

24:20 Know the SO so i can't that that's that's actually something that doesn't. COME up. I can't i can probably count the number of times that's come up on this show on. One hand so you're saying there's situations in that where they are actually touching, the well like. Tapping, out, Yeah. Yeah like he'll he'll come up if he's if if my buddy who's working the greenhouse and he's a, young adult he's probably close to thirty, years old but he's working.

25:00 A greenhouse the juvenile sometimes if he's getting wood or, you know he'll, come up sneak up, behind him tap him on, the shoulder and then jump back about six or. Seven feet he turned around there, He, is, OH sorry. I misunderstood you're saying the juvenile is tapping him on. The. Shoulder. Yeah yeah but the juveniles about about seven eight, foot tall though he's he's a he's a, good size, you know like. A teenager and he'll he'll be inside the greenhouse and working the greenhouse. At night the juvenile will open the greenhouse door and walk in and, you know look, at him, watch him, You know and so he's had very very. Close interactions so.

25:45 It's like there's two ways you could. TAKE that, i mean If if I'm pretending i'm the guy in, the greenhouse it could, either, be well he's, messing around he's trying to, prank me, you know he's having a, good time or, he's, SAYING hey i can take you OUT if i, wanted To but i'm just gonna do a little tap on. The shoulder but, i'm here, you, know man probably. A little bit, of both. YOU know i don't know the the, you know they had a one, particular day as he, described it he was in the greenhouse and as he's come to exit, the greenhouse the juvenile was holding the, door closed like, you know somebody to prank you gonna hold the door closed and not let, you out and not let, you in. He says, i'm like, you know, he SAYS so i give it a real hard PUSH and i catch him off guard and pop the.

26:44 Door open and then he slams a shit and jams smashes my finger. With it, he GOES and i start Screaming because i'm. In pain he. RUNS off i go take care of. My finger and then from the creek bottom the yell that we Called It fool's gold where your kids those old rocks ahead of what look like the quartz on there and stuff. Like, that uh he delivers in a quartz rock as a as a Like an i'm. Sorry gift. The, Next, Day, sally yeah but speaking, of rocks so you have quarts in, the area do you have you have any other big deposit types of. Mostly, limes certain mostly it's a big.

27:32 Limestone, area, okay, yeah okay you got, your now then you got your the other granted probably over where. They're at there is some granite over Over In madison county where, they're at they're about they're about sixty five or so miles to the northwest of me where the where these guys. Are at but the and there is granted over there over our area and closer to, the river it's mostly. Just limestone and they're over kind of in the foothills Of The Mark Twain national forest And the Missouri os arcs, over that you know that they're kind of on the eastern edge Of the Missouri. Os ARKS and i was.

28:13 JUST looking i, Was like i've got to See Where madison, county IS and i, was, Like Oh Mark Twain. National, forest, yeah yeah so. That's it the and and then where we're at is close to, you know you go up and Down That mississippi river and there's gonna be squatch activity all up and down through there on. Those bottoms why do you think that there's so much activity in this this Corner of Missouri. SLASH illinois. I just i just think the river bottoms with the. Thick forest, you know You Got Shawnee national forest over there on The southern, illinois side and then, you know and then there all the tributaries going into the river up and down, the river the creeks and the slews and the. Smaller rivers it just it gives any type of predatory animal with. Perfect habitat you got, water source you got, food source you got plenty of, thick, woods covered and, you know it's a perfect habitat for, you know if you're living off. The land, absolutely vegetation plenty of plenty, of vegetation plenty. Of game. You know at eight.

29:27 So you know you, mentioned earlier so you're in the Area Of murphy's, burrow, then yeah. We're Right murphy's burrow is probably across the river in thirty miles to, the north maybe something. Like, that yeah and it's it's that's such a fun story from nineteen. Seventy three, oh, yeah listeners if you don't know About The Big, muddy monster there's a great doc there's a great documentary, out there there's a. Great book now there's. A festival i gotta get. Down THERE it's, I mean i can drive. Down there it's probably seven eight hours From where i'm At. In IOWA but i hear it's a. Great one but have you ever, YOU know, i MAN if i was, Down there i'd, be like what if like The same bigfoot is somehow connected to like The stuff. I'm researching that'd, be.

30:24 Wild, man yeah, you know Are they are they? The same? TO me i think there's just, different groups. DIFFERENT plans i think they got clans. Over there they got clans. Over here big for society will be right back after. THESE messages. I don't think they're using the river and go back and forth, or anything but they. COULD be i, don't know but there's just, to me the evidence shows that there's plenty of them in certain. Areas NOW and i another spot Over In madison County that i've had some activity is another person's. Private property and that's, you know, you know we sat THERE and i sat there, one night and you know we had the eye shine of three, of them, you know within thirty yards, of us and and and just. Watching that, you know somebody told me a few, years ago just you don't have to go stretching through. The woods just build you, a fire enjoy each, other's company. Their curiosity they'll come and check. You out

31:56 and that has worked for me better than anything as far as gets. The. Interactions absolutely and so let's say you were moving move into a, new area and you were you, were like, YOU know i got to find. The places what are the first steps that you would take to try to figure, out like what are The areas i'm going to start to look into to see if there's big? Foot activity WHAT what i DO is i get. On The google earth and look At the Google earth maps, topographical MAPS and i look where there's water. And cover and if there's water, and cover you're more than likely going to find. Bigfoots now and you don't have to be too far away from. The population you. Can be they're not always out in the middle. Of Nowhere and i'll give you a case. In point, YOU know i started.

33:02 This journey my sister got involved in it. With me she actually had a signing on the road one night and has their. Own story she did several of. My SHOWS when i did My Podcast, understanding bigfoot we put thirty seven shows. OUT there i hadn't, done one and boy, A year i'm just kind of don't Know if i'll get back and do. IT again i may. Just not but she did several shows. With me but we, had parents we had with family members, told, us naw you guys, are, Crazy right sure you've heard that they and but we stuck through our stories because we knew our stories, were true, You know and we didn't care what. They said we were going to do what we're going, to do and we're going to leave what we know because we've, experienced IT and i tell, my, brother hey come out, with us come experience what, we experience, you know and then, you know make. You Know they so this was this.

34:09 Past summer my parents are both eighty five. Years old they live Up In, Saint, charles Missouri Suburban, saint louis three million Population Metropolitan. Saint, Louis right And and DAD and i were going back. And forth we got a, great relationship and we were going back, and forth and he's rassing me about. THIS stuff, i, said LOOK and i was due up to get up there and take him to a doctor appointment On, a MONDAY and i was going to come up On. A sunday, i said tell. You what. I'll tell. You what there is a bicycle trail that Starts In saint charles and goes Across To kansas city On The. Missouri river they call It The. Katie trail very popular tourists of extra, you know people ride the.

34:56 Whole thing they rate pips. Of it it's a. Recreational thing it's it's and right There. In St, charles county about six miles where my, dad lives there's a conservation area public conservation area down on that River Called weldon spring. Conservation Area katie trail runs. THROUGH there, I said i'll tell YOU what. I said, let's go let's let's take let's take a drive down to the parking, lot There To katie trail and the, conservation area and we'll, just listen just sit and listen for the night and see what. WE hear i had. NO idea i hadn't had any other a bigfoot activity in that area except for a STORY that i knew from about forty five. Years ago and we didn't even know it was bigfoot. Back then we just thought this, guy's crazy but we knew he was something that, scared. Him right and so we go down there and we park and. We're talking the last cyclist is it's starting to. Get dark last cyclist it gets done riding the bike on that portion of, the trail gets in. His truck and when that, last cyclist when that truck pulls out of the, parking lot up on the ridge in, the woods we hear distinct two.

36:28 Tree knocks and my dad. Heard that he said that was two. TREE knocks, i, said yeah, It was, HE said. I. SAID maybe, i said my guess is it's signaling the rest of them in the woods that the bicyclists are gone. For. The night the other five minutes, go by ten minutes, go by we don't. Hear anything now if that up there tree knocked and he's overlooking, the are he knows we're still there in, the car but he knows we're, not, Bicyclist right he's smart enough.

37:13 Know THAT. So, i, THOUGHT well i normally don't, do This but I'm. With dad dad's got expectations. Of activity we're not. GETTING activity i normally don't, do This but i'm gonna let out a. Couple whoops that guy up there already knows that he knows it's. Me whooping i'm not going to. FOOL him i may not fool any, of THEM but i. DIDN'T anyway i normally don't, do that normally Don't HAVE so i get a big, old whoop, you, know whoop a couple, of them, high pitched AND after i did my second one up on the ridge to the left, of this uh here a, real, loud long drawn out bigfoot screen like you'd here With the, ohio sounds, you know one, of those and it just set the. Woods up we started hearing them ball over that. Conservation area red just to just yell back, and forth back. And forth it sounded like a whole chorus of them just was in a certain distance. Of us and it's scared my dad he. GOT spooked i thought it. WAS deep i thought it was Cool Because i've i've heard the same Thing In southeast missouri on a. Few, Occasions right, i'm, like this, They're here. They're here this is. So cool and,

38:45 he's like. Let's Go. Your dad's like gone zero to sixty and like two. Seconds Exactly. And, I'm like, i'm like what are you? Afraid of they. Don't exist, AND anyway i, tell you he'll. Doubt play it to. This day. It was it was so. Much fun and and the my sister who Lives, in texas she was coming up a couple of weeks later to. Visit HIM, she, SAI all i got to take him.

39:27 Out there so she takes him back out to the same place and he went turned the motor off for. The car, he went you got to turn the motor off the cars we. HEAR you i ain't turn, it off what if it won't start. Back up so she finally brought, him back convinced him to turn the motor off and then then, she did she started they had some, activity too and it's like. Two times, you know so, but that but that's but what that tellship is they're all over. The place you can look and you can look at the habitat habitual area in the map what it, looks like and you can say they're. Probably there they.

40:09 Probably are and in, this case they're in, A County Saint charles county that, you know probably has the entire county probably has a population of three quarters of a, million people so, you know they don't have to be too. Far away and people recreationally ride that bike trail every single day without incident With the bigfoot don't even know, they're there most. Of THEM. And i bet they're just watching them all day, long though. And they're just. Watching, them yeah they're. People watchers they.

40:52 You know i've had that with me on number. Of cages it's just that's. The fast that's. The fast that's LIKE what, i did The understanding. BIGFOOT thing, i said WHAT do i want to call? THE show i don't want to call it bigfoot AS real i KNOW that i don't want to call it. FINDING bigfoot i. Found them uh, you, know hey just try to understand what they know and what They weren't. They're about somebody, told me, He said you're never going To, understand bigfoot and then we will always have another show to do or another subject to talk. About exactly. YOU know i bring this up every once in, A while but someone about a year ago, was like, you know so you're going to start Focusing? On? Bigfoot.

41:37 Yeah absolutely aren't you afraid that you're you're going to run out of people to talk to that have had. STUFF happen i don't. Think so and now, it's, like no never. IT will i will never run out. Of people it's it's intense all over the all over the nation and. The world you've dealt, With, this Jeremiah and i've dealt. With it you're probably more so than Me where i've had guess on the Podcast that i've done, that, Said finally i'm able to get this off my chest to somebody who. Understands Absolutely and i've Lived with i've lived with this for how? Many years we had. A situation i work at a, high SCHOOL and i work at A high this is my second year at that. High school i'm athletic director THERE and i teach a couple, of classes and these kids.

42:31 Are wonderful and this high school Is In, Bollinger. County, missouri now if you look at, The Map Cape girnto county is there in. The river the next county Over Is. Bollinger county the next county Over Is, madison County where i've had. Bigfoot, activity right so it's safe to say if Bigfooter In Cape, girartal county big Footer In, madison county they're Probably In bolinger. County too you know that. They are, you know it's a rural what, it county but most of the people don't know that they are because they. You know and so, these kids they find out a new person's coming. To town he's not, from there he's going to be, you know, athletic, director. Teacher classes they get on there and they stalk you on.

43:18 Social media they find out this guy is this study guy's In. The bigfoot, so yeah they start. Razzing me and they had THE other i did podcast did podcasts And and i'm still, My guys i'm, Telling you i'm. Telling you and this year this is just this Is just we're Still. In march just is, this month this is the first and early this month one of, our seniors female student going to be valedictorian in the class basketball player over a thousand points in the basketball team. Career wise you. Know good you know You're all, america, Kid right she says to me a couple of. Months ago there's ONE thing i want you to do, for me and if you have others before we. Graduate us and?

44:12 What's that, She says take us out to the woods and show us what, you know show us what. You're seeing put up or, shut Up, MISTER scott, i, Said OKAY so i got to school to let me take, a sponsor to let me take these kids out on a. Field trip you remember the old field trips, in, School right you go to the zoo or go someplace. Like THAT. So i had. ELEVEN students i had eight seniors and. Three juniors. Eleven students put them on a, school bus and since we're, SMALL school i also drive the bus drive them over To My kins innervation Area In North, cape COUNTY where i know the at least the ONE thing I know i can show them. Is. Footprints right are you going to Show? Us bigfoot. Probably not you're not going To see bigfoot they're not, you know, they don't they're. NOT out, I said i will show you evidence.

45:22 Big for society will be. Right back after, THESE messages. I had, my buddy one of my, research buddies met me. Up there he's retired. Now me he met us, up there, joined us and so we went out and we weren't we weren't fifty seventy five yards off. The BUS and i spot the, first track AND so i. CALLED it, i said look, at, this guys let's look. At, this now it wasn't a, perfect track but you. COULD tell, i, said now get your hands. Down there you see where the you know the indentions, very barely but there is.

46:16 An indention you see if you, feel toes they. Feel toes let's get the tape major out that that track is sixteen, inches long eight, inches wide and they could feel they can see that's. THE track. I, SAID now, i said if this is, one track there has to. Be others so you want to look four to five, feet ahead four to five. Feet behind you may not actually see a good footprint, like this but you'll see where. It's stepped there'll be an impression where, it's stepped and then so and then and then the students. Are looking the students are picking. It out hey look, At that look.

47:00 At there, he's, right hey look, you there look at. You know and we saw three or four steps worth. Of travel and THEN once i showed THEM what, i saw they went out and started looking like like like kids In an easter. Egg, hunt, hey hey this might be, one here come look. At, it, hey hey this might be one, Over here come look. At it and and so these kids are seeing for the, first time you're seeing. Sixteen inches this was only a fifteen. Inch track this one's this one's eighteen. Inches long and they're they're they're, seeing it. You know and and they're getting excited because they're seeing they know that something is laying, these yeah and these are awful. Big feet and and so they went up ahead and we got to we got to an AREA that, I said i'm going to walk on up the Hill because i've seen some good tracks up.

48:09 There before and they were going to stay along that little small, creek bed and my buddy was, with them and they were going. Up there one of my students found a perfect into creek bottom seventeen inch print by nine wide toes down in there that heel into the mid. Tarsal break everything, WAS showing, i mean good. Old inch. Indentching into. The GROUND and i got to, them FINALLY and i, had THOUGHT because i wanted to have them to have. THIS experience i GOT a i brought a kit for. PLASTER casting, i thought if we find a, good track we're going to. Cast IT so i got the, casting material showed, the, kids okay, follow directions mix. It up students mixed. It up students poured it into. The foot one kid pulls the. Wallet out you've got a little.

49:20 Credit card they kind of smooth it over at, the top make a nice. Smooth top and that track is sitting there in, the ground seventeen, inches long nine inches by the. Widest PART and i wanted to set up. Real good and by this time they're hungry and they want to go. Get LUNCH but i wanted to set up. Real good my, buddy, says hey let's just. Do this i'll come back tomorrow and. Get it let it, get Good because i'm worried, about well if we start taking it out, OF ground i don't want to. Fall apart we got a mile to walk back to, the bus and so my buddy, goes back gets the, next day gets out. Of ground this is just, a perfect perfect footprint that these, students found cast it and and and made.

50:10 Their Day and i'm Working on i'm getting it. Cleaned up and what we're going to do is all the students that we're on the trip are going to sign the flat part of the cast and the school is going to let us put it on display in the display case in the lobby. At school now how cool? Is that and, these kids most of them are three quarters of away or better to believe it In what i'm doing, and thinking this guy, is nuts so nuts, after all because we saw, this much and so the, word links, you know spreads. At school what, WE did i got the cast in my classroom and now you got other groups wanting, to go other groups when why can't why keep why you? Can't do we just got to get. A group we gotta, you know you know you'd be the next group.

51:07 To go so. That's the kind of thing. Educating people and we put that Of the Simo bigfooten crypti research facebook page that My Friend susan perez runs here Out Of. Cape girardo we put the we put, the pictures the story On that, facebook page which. The And. Then, barbara hartman another one of my co Hosts On wednesday nights Are co Panteless On, wednesday nights she put it on Her No Drama bigfoot facebook PAGE and i had somebody comment On The semo bigfoot page from just in the county to the north of Us In, perry county right along, the river this is. So cool i've been looking for a group to be able to share.

52:01 WITH this i had a SIGHTING when i was, a KID and i haven't been able to talk to anybody about it because my initial conversations. Were dismissed you didn't, see that you were, dreaming that. You know AND so i reached out to her and, you know and SHE and i are gonna be. Talking SOON but, i, thought yeah that's why we do what, we're doing because there's so many people out there that have had that encounter and they've got nobody to share it with because their initial sharings. Were, Discounted.

52:46 Absolutely and you probably. EXPERIENCED that i, Experienced that my sister. Experienced THAT but, i thought, Screw it i'm Gonna keep i'm gonna keep telling the story because. It's true, And yeah that is so cool that, you're able you were able to take some kids out from the school and kind of open open their eyes to what's really. Out there but, you know A question i wanted to. Ask you, you know you might have an interesting viewpoint of this because you have had, that visual, you know face. To face it's a it's a, basic question but so what what do you think bigfoot is if you had? To, categorize.

53:32 Well you hear a lot of talk about that, The spiritually I'm A christian christian BELIEF and i believe like us that they are Part of. God's creation now to what extent they? Were created some, people, say, well biblically it's From the nephilim and This dead. I'm not i'm not going to, discount that except for the only thing that makes me question that is the neph of them were fallen angels and demonic and all, that stuff and these things have been nothing but nice, to me total the total opposite of what you'd expect, from demons if.

54:19 You will all my experience has been. Real CHILL and i know people been bluffed by son was bluff, Charged ONCE but I know i know that's that's out. There too and But but i've to me That's where i'm at. With IT but i also know My Buddy tom cantrell uh said they're flesh and blood and. Something else there's something else going on with. Him too, HE says i don't know. Exactly WHAT and i kind of agree with him on that BECAUSE because i. HAVE it. I don't have the evidence that there're, you know some, people, say well they're part of an, alien group or they can just disappear in the. THIN air i haven't. Witnessed that i'm not going to discount somebody else's story because people.

55:11 Discounted mind i'm just going BY what i have learned in. Four years and AND but i do know on three, different occasions three times in my LIFE have i, seen orbs and all three of those times were in the Presence of. Bigfoot Activity but i've been in the presence of bigfoot activity multiple times where there were. No orbs so do they have something to do with? Each other, they might, you know but they don't all. The time, SO yeah i just try to as, AN educator i just try to try to be common sense. About things.

55:56 Exactly the orbs that, you saw were they a certain or shape or size or well the one the one TIME and i got a picture, of it of. The orb it actually if you blow the, orb up you see the big, foot behind, you know right there WITH. THE orb i got gun on, MY phone i could text it. To you but the but that. Was green the other two times the orbs were clear black light bulb like like a white light like. White lights so. It's it's, really interesting. You know i've gotten more and more accounts over THE last i would say. SIX months i think people are starting to get not as scared to talk ABOUT the. ORB thing i think.

56:50 IT might. I think people are starting to accept. IT more i think back in, the day they're, you, know yeah people bring and it's and it's like the, mind Speak because. I've been i've communicated with them, multiple times but not through. MINE speak, I talked i Talk, in english and they well vocalized back. To me sometimes it's, a grunt sometimes it's a. Little gibberish sometimes it's JUST that i might get an a'll call back from him or something, like that or or whoop, or so and then we'll go back.

57:31 AND forth i don't know that they Know what. I'M saying i don't know what, they're SAYING but I but i can tell that we're on friendly terms with, each other you. Know Exactly. But i've got one of my research guys says that he'd had some mind speaking activity with him and told me what they said to him and told me what he, You Know and, i'm like my first thought four years ago was. You're CRAZY but i don't think that Anymore because i've talked to enough people that have had those experiences THAT that i think there's something. To THAT but i don't think everybody has THAT experience. I did i haven't had, that Experience but i've talked to enough people, that have and and so, You know i'm not. Discounting it and and that's part. Of that there's something else, going on. You know i've had people that have been hit with the infra sound that have told me what that.

58:33 Was like i'd never been hit, with IT so, i can't. You KNOW and i was as CLOSE to i had one outside of my tent door, one day and we were on more than five or six. Feet apart it was just a tent wall, separate us and and and that. Was interesting that was that was that was two, Years ago april two Years, ago april we were camping and My buddy BILL and i and he had a friend who was a. Total skeptic the three of us were camping and we were in the tent and we hadn't really had a. Whole lot, we were, you know getting in there for, the night and it had, been raining and it had, been cloudy so the lighting was not good because it was cloud covers keeping the moonlight from.

59:24 Being There and BILL and i had both, fallen asleep and the FIRST sound i heard was a foot. Crunching gravel there was a little gravel Drive where bill had his. Truck parked AND when i heard the foot crunch, THE gravel i. Woke up AND when i, woke up our skeptical buddy was sitting up in his cot and he was on high alert and he looked like, he was, you know and we. Stayed quiet next step crunches. The gravel next step crunches. The gravel Big for society will be. Right back after.

1:00:05 These messages. We had a tarp out in front of our tent because to keep them keeping from tracking mud into the tent because it had. Been raining and the next step is on, the tarp and the next step is on, the tarp so he's got two feet in. The tarp he is right there on the other side of the tent wall. FROM us I know i know what it Is because i've dealt. With it this guy is just on.

1:00:47 High alert he knows that something is out there walking around on. Two legs it's that that's pretty. Heavy Footed and i'm sitting there saying, to myself talk, to it talk, to it say something. To IT but i, WAS like, i couldn't, you know you KNOW what. I mean, i'm like he's. THAT CLOSE i, I thought i'm gonna let him make one more move And then i'm gonna say something. To it and then he, next thing, you know two, three steps he's back into the woods. And GONE and, I didn't i, TELL you. I choked i wanted to talk, to it, say something to see what it, would react how it, would do what it would, You KNOW and I and i didn't do, it anything walked into, the woods and it was, too late and and My buddy bill is. Still snoring he hadn't woke. Up yet AND so i asked. THE guy, i, said, so so what what what do? You hear, He, said well, HE says i heard a couple of branches break from in. The woods, that didn't, you know sound like somebody. Broke him. He was the NEXT thing, i know, he was it's messing with things in the back of. The, truck yeah moving, things around checking things out in the back of. The truck, He GOES then i start coming across, the GRAVEL and, i thought THAT'S when i. Woke UP and i start coming across. The gravel and then he had EXPERIENCED everything.

1:02:13 I EXPERIENCED and i said that that was that was a that was a. Big foot he came into, visit us and this guy's like and of course this guy went back to his way and And and bill, will, say oh he just he just he's putting it out of. His mind, he, SAID no i didn't. Experience that that really, didn't happen but. It DID. And, i, mean, yeah yeah that's. That's wild have you guys ever heard or experienced zipper noises? Down there like a zip, and, TA yeah. I, Haven't, no okay have you heard of that down there?

1:03:06 At, all well we got a young man who is, h well he came to our group as a. Total skeptic come to a couple of one of our meetings when was, You know susan advertised, these meetings who you have a quarterly, Luncheon somewhere and he camped with us one night and he had a, little individual one person tent that he set up about twenty yards from the, other tents and he had the strings and. The, tent okay the strings he said something was like picking the string like. A, guitar yeah ding ding ding at. Night overnight and, he didn't, he SAID because i thought maybe it's just the wind or the wind's not going to, do that, you know on those. Ten STRINGS and, i says probably there's probably a big foot to come in and because there's no other animals just gonna sit there and do that to the string while you're in. There sleeping based on the things we experienced and stuff, LIKE that, i said probably it was a big foot to come into the camp and was. Doing that and you know that's, that's yeah that's the closest that. We've, heard yeah it's

1:04:41 it's it's a it's a you know that they will let you know that that they're. In. The area they'll do different ways and do different things to let you know they're in. The area and and so you can, you know like like in, My case, i'm LIKE should i unzip the tent and go out and see? This? Thing Right and, i'm like, you know you know you in, Your mind, you're, like well how will it react if you? Do? That yeah? Will it will it Feel that i'm being aggressive? WITH it, I mean i don't want to tangle, with, It right i'm not going to win that if It feels i'm being aggressive.

1:05:27 With it. Is he coming in and doing this much but he doesn't want, me to, you know or do they actually want me to come out and. HAVE interaction i don't know the answer to that at. This point and that's why, THAT night, I like, I said, I choked i didn't, do. Anything, you know and let it. Walk off but and then, you just, you know you just have. That regret like one my first my FIRST time i went Out, in IOWA and i WAS just i was just, so EXCITED and i, was like, you know texting. DIFFERENT people i was in my tent, by myself, AND uh i was texting random people, and Uh and shannon, was like you gotta you gotta do the baby christ sound just to see.

1:06:18 What happens i'm not gonna do the baby crist sound and, she's like just, do IT and i, was, Like nah i'm not gonna. Do IT and. I regret I wish i would have, done it because it's like you but that kind of can set off a lot of things that can set off actual predators, As well so maybe want to be careful. Of that, but well you know THAT'S why. I don't i try not to yell and do all, that stuff, YOU know i try not to do that because you don't know what. You're communicating you don't know what else you're, setting off, you know things Like THAT bill I. Mentioned bill BILL and i did camped on. One occasion it was just the two of us and, and uh we we're setting in for the evening for we were hoping to have some good activity With the sasquatches and about some people pulled up to. Hunt coons they had, a couple but two three coon hounds got down in those, you know started going down into those woods and they were in our vicinity and you can hear those. Hounds YEP and, i, thought well there goes. Our NIGHT and i guess at some point into their, coon hunt we heard, the loudest the loudest bigfoot roar that we had. Ever HEARD and, i mean this was your ohio howell, on

1:07:49 steroids if you're if, you're right if you're there at, the time and we never heard another yep out of those, coon HOUNDS. And I was i was kind of. GET worried, i thought these, these dogs. You know and then about ten, minutes later you can hear the hunters throwing these coon dogs in the back of their truck and then, you know peeling out of the gravel getting out. Of THERE and, I thought I wish i knew who those. Guys were i'd love to talk to them tomorrow and, find out. You know but and then my next, THOUGHT was i Hope the bigfoot doesn't associate us with being the, coon hunters right because we're up there in. The tent, we're, vulnerable right, some, thinking oh you know you start. Praying, That, yeah well about an hour later we hear from out, you know we're in. The tent it's, you know we're we hear and this. Is instance we hear a hoodoo immediately followed by a little updown whistle and then some.

1:09:03 Rock clicking its sounded like, rock clicking whodo up, down whistle rock, clicking huda, updown whistle, rock clicking and this is, going on and they're probably about forty yards from the tent and we're. Hearing That, THEN bill, I, SAID bill, I said i think they're talking to us some way. Or another bill's a. Good whistler so when they got to the, updown whistle he replied with an. Updown whistle then the whodow and the rock. Clicker quit they just they started whistling back and forth to each other and this is. Going, on yeah, whistle, whistle. Whistle WHISTLE and, i said and this IS when i got. THE guts, i said let's let's walk outside.

1:09:51 The tent. This is. So cool let's walk outside. The tent so we walked outside. The tent and. They continued, he whistled, he whistled. He whistled here they go back. And forth they're down there and they're getting. The Trees and, i'm thinking, come on, you know just come out and show yourself, to us and would. Do it and finally the. Whistling stopped, AND okay i guess they're not going to show themselves. To us so we so we go back into, the tent zip it, back up lay, back down and then once we're settled into. The tent, behind us there's a gravel, parking lot and all of a sudden you can hear them walking across the gravel park lot on the other side of, our trucks step, step step step, step step going off to where, they're going and and they're they're, they're incredible they.

1:10:45 Are incredible. That's wild have you heard of Any situations you said something a, while back and it it made me think. Of, Something uh and so THE question i, have is have you heard of any situations where sasquatch has made people's lives miserable in your area? Or, State. Yeah i'll talk about a Couple OF like, i say this is the conservation area that we, go to and of course it's surrounded by farms and people that just have property and want to be out in the middle of nowhere. Or whatever and there's not a lot of population, up there twenty miles North of cape and these guys they'll come in and with there side. By sides that one couple stopped one time and talking, to us and he, Sees me i've seen you up, here, before now, You know and and we try not to let him know what we're. Doing, Right yeah and so finally my buddy asking me if you noticed, anything strange any weird activities? Up? Here, no okay well well They're they're.

1:12:26 So the. Guy leaves he comes back about thirty. Minutes later, HE says i had A. GREAT pyrenees i found him down in a hollow of, my property dead with a. Broken back, he said you ask about, things strange. He says, he goes something would spook my horses down there. At night that great parent won't be their their, guard, Dogs right and. He goes he ends up with a broken back. Down there he says he didn't get hit by a car because the roads just a little gravel road that nobody. EVER travels, i mean you know your dog's not gonna get hit by. A car and, you know he said.

1:13:09 It was. It was it would have been down there in, the bottoms, he is what would have? Done that because there's no teeth marks, on it because there's no scratch marks. On it the wouldn't been a. Mountain lion, you know we do have mountain lions. THERE too i saw one a couple of. Years ago what would have? DONE that, I, SAID well, i said, PROBABLY bigfoot, i said because whatever the bigfoot was doing causing the horses, to react causing the dog. To react, they thought they don't want their, cover blown so let's eliminate what's blowing. The cover probably.

1:13:51 A bigfoot they're. Out here he didn't. Know that. And in, another situation and my son was. He was he was actually the first one to find the tracks that first Day in december. Twenty nineteen he's in. The hunting he would go up to that same conservation area In, deer HUNT and. I, remember this. And he knows bigfoot s r up there because we, had interactions but he still go up there and deer and.

1:14:32 Other People deer hunt's not, like people don't, you know they're not up there, killing, hunters right and they know hunters are in. The woods and when the hunting, seasons are he, tells me, he, Says hey i'm going to a new place in. The morning they hadn't. Been TO but i think it's a real good spot, TO go, i Said watching and he lived Here in cape at. THE time, i, said wa don't you come over and. Get me i'll go out with you and sit. With you. And NEXT morning i get up it's about five forty five in, THE morning i, GET up i let the, dog OUT and i get a text digging on. MY phone i don't have my. Glasses, On oh ramsey's on his way. Over where he's a. Little late he should have been over here thirty. Minutes Ago maybe.

1:15:33 Big for society will be right back after, These MESSAGES. So I just i ignore the TEXTS that i start. Getting. Dressed well then five, minutes later the phone's ringing AND and i picked the phone UP and, I said I'm Just. Don shotley where are? You? At man and he's breathing heavily into, the phone and he's sounds real. Shook up and, He says i'm up here in. THE field, i, said oh you went up there hunting and you didn't come over and. GET me i thought you were going to come over and, Get, Me dad i'm up here in. THE field i just got chased out of. THE woods, i said chased out of the woods? By what, He says you? KNOW what, i said you should have come and. Got, me well what would you? HAVE done, I said i. DON'T know, i said he's, HE'S so, I said i SAID what, i said. COME home, i said we'll go get. Some breakfast talk, about this then we'll they'll go back up and check. Things out and the area that he went

1:17:07 when we, got there there were it was there was a, game trail, Perfect, deer yeah, game trail and this area had two arch long thin trees arched kind of over the, game trail and you know they'll do those. Tree ARCHES and i don't know if it was just a sign like it's a good spot, for, us, yeah. YEAH whatever i just. Theorize it as he went to hunt that morning where they were where they wanted, to be and they didn't want, him there. And. He didn't. He didn't he had a little little spotlight head lamp to get into his place and, pitch dark and he couldn't see the bigfoot and probably there were two, of them maybe two. Of them, they growled screamed, at him, broke trees. Shook trees he's, chased him bluff probably bluff.

1:18:02 Charged him he. Couldn't see he, didn't fire as he didn't fire. His Rifle and i've, told him don't shoot unless you absolutely. HAVE to i SAID everything, i researched and they will let you leave. The area just leave the area if you run into something. LIKE that i SAID everything, i researched they'll let you leave. The area as soon as he got to, the field they left. Him alone soon as he got out of the woods into, the field they left. Him alone and and, you know we went back to. THE spot i saw some a couple of eighteen inch footprints in that, AREA too. I spotted, i, said yeah you know you were you were wrong place at the. Wrong time and and then the next time, he calls, he says, HE goes i really want to hunt that field, back there, he says but, he said will you go with? ME today i know you're you're not afraid of, these THINGS and i just feel better if you went. With, Me yeah i'll go.

1:19:07 With you. But he had, that experience he didn't he didn't. Like it he didn't want to have anything to do. With, him. Yeah you know a lot, OF accounts i. Take it it just it almost sounds like they just they want you out of a certain Area, or yeah they just want you out a, certain area and once you get to out of, that area they'll they'll kind of just leave. You alone, that's. Wild though have you had any any conversations or connections with? Up here we CALL HIM D. N r officers or forestry workers or law enforcement officials.

1:19:49 About, Bigfoot Yeah missouri Department. Of, conservation yeah their field their. Field agents. We were we were up there. One night we had a little little, you know they got two little primitive camp areas up this conservation area and were up there and this Is, in january, my goodness a few. Years back and got a, fire going the spitting snow and, you know got got. A tint we, were camping and and there was four of us up there at. THE time i think one of one was the three of us were. Gonna camp one of us gonn what was gonna go home when he felt. Like it and we're just up there talking in a game warden making his rounds stops and it comes over to check. Us, out yeah starts. Asking, questions yeah he's got to find out are we up? There for do we mean? No good or we? Up there and it was TWO during COVID and i finally said, TO him, I said, I said, i, SAID look, i said we're really we're. Not hunting We're not and nobody was really getting drunk or anything, like that so. WE'RE not, i said we just come up here to get away and be somewhere where we can just sit down and just visit with each other without having to put a, mask on without having to worry about, social distancing without having to do any of, that stuff just to kind of get away and just chill and visit with. Each other and, he's, like, okay okay, he, says well, HE says i feel, LIKE though i probably

1:21:22 better say something. To. You though, he says there there could BE because i don't have, firsthand knowledge but there could be big foots in. This area was There a Department? Of conservation? Hold up so did he know you guys? Were bigfooters when, said that, you know we. Didn't mention we didn't mention what we were up. There, doing oh we didn't want him. To know we didn't want him. TO know i, WAS like i, was like we just we someplace we go visit with each other without having to put a mask on and social, you'll work but you'll just try to. Be normal and when he, SAID that, i said what did, You, SAY oh i don't have first. Ten knowledge, He said i'm just telling you from what Some things, i've heard there might be some in. The area. Just beware and then my, buddy says that's why. We're here that's what. We do and, then OKAY so, i, said WELL so i showed him some pictures on my phone and. SOME footprints i had this.

1:22:31 ONE here i took that picture three hundred yards right, over there down by that, old bar and this. One here these were cast over here on the other side off the. Boat ramp, you know different things. Like that, he's, like, whoa, yeah, yeah okay you got. The, evidence well we've exchanged contact information HE and. I have i've got a cell number in my phone and he's, got mine and they're okay with us going up there. AND researching i sent him a text most recently of this plaster cast our. Kids did tody what, we did what. We found, he's like, you know, he's like. That's awesome and and then we had another. Conservation agent, he, said oh, he, says well, he goes if you want to check out, other places he gave us a couple whether wildlife areas In, southeast missouri you can, go there you can. Go there, he goes they're there, too now but now the State of missouri says they. Don't, exist well the narrative Of The missouri Department of conservation is it's a mythological creature that does.

1:23:43 Not exist but these two field, agents say, oh yeah. Be careful and the one guy who said, to me, he says. He goes it floors me that you guys actually spend the night out there in, your tents knowing what's. Out THERE and i, TOLD him, i said they have they have not been harmful. To us they've showed us nothing but peacefulness and and and, you know. Mm hmm so it's awesome that you've got some guys on the inside like that that are on a talking basis.

1:24:25 With you that's. So cool but but But. These sasquatches that they, have got they're. Very disciplined they got a sophistication with their with, their units call them claims or, family units whatever you want to. CALL them, I mean i'll sit up there at that. PARKING lot i sit at parking lot during deer season and you know the firearm, deer season which is which is you know, state holiday probably in, your state. My state right. The the. And when the hunter comes out of the woods onto the gravel parking lot about seventy yards off, the way YOU hear whoa ten, minutes later next under runs out. Comes.

1:25:13 Out whoa these hunters are oblivious. To it they act like? What's bikes but you have a sasquatch watching the, parking lot, hunter out. Hunter out they know exactly how many cars, are parked how many people down There hunting when the last hunter gets out of, the woods when they can go. Start roaming that's how sophisticated of a system they've. Got going and if they've got to go In In Cape, gerudal county they've got to go on all over. The, country absolutely that's. How they thrive and and that's how they thrive, and survive and that's how people hunt without knowing they're. Out, THERE.

1:25:54 Yeah i mean it reminds me of What The olympic Project in, washington says, You Know, Chris Spencer. Shine corson they say that you're going to catch a lot of stuff when you get right out of, Your vehicles so you better have a sound recorder going because that's when you're going to, hear like oh they're. Back again, you know, it's crazy, you know and. They've got there what do you, call them, day watchers whatever you want to. Call them they are transitioned at certain areas and, you know and they're going to keep an eye, on things. And and. And but they they they've got that, going on and they and they learned to coexist with, the hunters and that's that's why they're, You KNOW and i tell, the, hunters well like my, son is you're not going to shoot your way out of it unless you absolutely, HAVE to.

1:26:53 I said but at the, same time they know that you've got, a gun so they don't want you to shoot your way out. Of it, You, know. Yeah absolutely. To. The side if there's a CONSERVATION officer dnr, or whatever you'd be labeled in, your state and you know, about bigfoot you had an experience and you want to, reach out you can reach out To Me bigfoot society at gmail. Dot com even if it's just to chat off air and. Off RECORD that i have no problem. WITH that i talked to a lot of people. Off Record, but mike have you have you heard of any situations where it could be like a bigfoot related to like a missing four one one, type thing or like you could have been responsible for a person that was missing or anything.

1:27:45 Like that they had a situation about a year and a half ago down here In southeast missouri where a deer hunter went missing and he Was down he Was, from sikeston which is thirty miles south. Of me but he was over In The mark twain area over in east probably west Of, Paper bluff uh down there Around The current river in, that area and he went missing and they found him dead a couple of days later when they went when he, went missing here's here's here's what's strange. About this they searched the area and they found his rifle and he wasn't there when they the next day as they're searching, the area his body was back at the place where they found. His rifle and a lot, of people, you know speculating bigfoot, got him bigfoot, got him bigfoot. Got him and my theory on, THAT was i don't. THINK so i don't know what. Got

1:29:17 him but he may just had a he made just he may just had a, heart attack and, YOU know i don't know what caused. His death they may have something may have taken, him somewhere because he wasn't there where the rifle. WAS at i don't know why he would have left his rifle, to go. You know. And when they found the body where the rifle was the, next day my guess is it possibly a bigfoot brought him back to that spot knowing they were going to look you know that that's an area they were looking because the last Thing the sasquatch once is a bunch of law enforcement officials scoring through. THEIR territory i would think So they i'm thinking my theory is they brought the.

1:30:16 Body back there's. YOUR body i don't know what. Caused it maybe, they did maybe, They did maybe he was ready. TO shoot i don't know if it was if it was bigfoot that got him. OR not i, had it had heard me all the details since, then on that's been kind of, hushed, up right but but so so it's it's it's. It's sketchy, you know nobody really knows. For sure but somehow that body got back to where that gun. Was at they wasn't there the. Day before that's a, tricky situation. For sure you Hear in oklahoma a lot of but there's a few instances of, you know bigfoot trying to get into houses or becoming.

1:31:00 Extremely aggressive is that a thing that you guys have to deal with down In In? Southeast, MISSOURI ever i haven't heard. Of. THAT now i have heard knocking on, the walls knocking on. THE windows i had a lady on one of. My podcasts she has from Over the, springfield area North, of springfield and she said that there's ONE that, i mean he's at her bedroom window every night between two and three in, the morning tapping. ON it, i said you're not going out to see what? He wants, she, goes, no, no no sheas this is. Every DAY and, i said put up perimeter. Game cans they'll they'll stay away. From there but but THE But i i've heard, of that heard of that, that that, you know things, like that peeking in, the windows KNOCKING h i haven't. HEARD of i haven't heard of one trying to get in. The, house though not a personal story. From anybody i've read.

1:32:09 SOME encounters i read some counters where maybe they've they perhaps did. In that so even over at the PLACE where i Go In, madison county they've gone up to. The house they haven't they haven't tried to get in. The house so they've gone up close to. The, houses yeah they've they've been up to the they've been up to, the porch, you know but they have. Been in they tried to get in the house or been in. The house so they're like getting up to, the porch but not quite crossing that point because they not crossing that that could, happen someday. But because, they wild because they've had gifts left for them on the porch right there outside. The door really just just, you know they come up and, leave it leave a gift in return for the food they're getting or.

1:32:56 Something else so exactly do you know anything about a Place Called marley woods Down in missouri based what It's Called? Marley Woods? Marley, WOODS yeah. I was just shot in. The dark it's a, you know skinwalker ranch Out. In, Utah yeah i've heard. Of it so supposedly there's a version of that Somewhere in missouri where it's like a LOT of ufo stuff but also some bigfoot. Type thing it would have to be it would have to be over In the, ozark, said yes, ALTHOUGH yeah i would. Guess, too yeah we we, YOU know i had a guy that's.

1:33:38 He's done a documentary On This GRAND tower ufo thing from about fifty years ago over In, so illinois which is a big buddy area across where research and we we Saw what i'm just going, to say it WAS a u foe because we couldn't identify it as anything else in the sky one night when we were up there and that thing was doing all kinds of things that that aren't know any aircraft that we know, anything about and and so we just so he'd found out he, WOLDN'T know. I couldn't he is down to doing. SOME interviews i was out of town when he. Did that but the he's putting his. Documentary together MY buddies i think interviewed. With him but THE but i did talk to him on. THE phone, i said THAT'S what. I saw, I said i can tell you it was related to aliens, or NOT but i did see something in the sky that was not a normal thing in. The sky and so but that, Stuff, is yeah that, stuff is. You know and and IF like, i said If if bigfoot is Real and bigfoot is in the abundance that they are in in, this COUNTRY which, i believe if they, were recognized there's more, than enough they would not be in a new dangered, Species list and nobody knows. About That and i'm Not gonna i'm not gonna say these.

1:35:07 Other things aren't we going? To do there's no telling what's. Out THERE. So i got one last question. For you, you know you're hearing a lot of accounts and stories in, Your. Corner missouri do you ever hear any accounts or sightings of non bigfoot creatures in. THE area i haven't heard anything related in our area to. Dog man probably the closest thing related to, THAT well, i mean what's? His name put out a, documentary recently My friend Miguel with sasquatch theory.

1:35:50 About, it yeah he's a, great dude a dog. Man ciding over to the west Of Us mark. Twain area again the the somebody reported a couple of years ago and they described and this is like Right In. Cape girardo they just what they described as far as the creature is the probably the closest thing we would call it would be, the mothman really big old batman type thing, flying around. You know and they said there were two different sightings within about a month of, each other And The cape girardo's city limits on the outskirts.

1:36:37 Of It and i'd heard about that but didn't follow up on it because, you know but. Who knows. In how long ago was that you said a few years. That's probably about three years by about three years, AGO probably i mean that's probably. Three, YEARS well i hadn't heard anything. Since THEN but i did, hear too in the same region with about the same month of. Each other and AND AND i i didn't. DIDN'T know i didn't get. ANY names i just heard. About, it so, YOU know, i thought, You know i'm diving. INTO bigfoot i don't have time to dive. Into everything.

1:37:26 That's, the thing right when you start focusing on big foots like you don't have time for. Anything, anything yeah, You KNOW and i. Get it, And, so mike it has been really fun time chatting. With it you are a wealth of knowledge about big foot in general and especially in your Corner. Of missouri it's such a. Fun time so thank you for. COMING on i. APPRECIATE that i appreciate you. INVITING me, i know we first contacted about seven or eight months ago about this this and finally. Got Together and i've enjoyed. My time i've enjoyed Sharing what I've what, i've experienced and hopefully your audience gains a better understanding. As well hopefully they.

1:38:12 Enjoyed it, so absolutely can do you mind taking a few minutes how people can if there's any way to keep up to date with what, you're doing how to contact you if if they have reports in, your Area The Cape, Girardo, county missouri all that. Good, stuff, okay yeah my email address is. Really easy it's all. One Word understanding bigfoot at gmail. DOT com i am With the. Facebook page I'm on Facebook As. Mike scott I'm. On facebook i'm a part OF The Cemo Southeast Missouri Bigfoot Encrypted research group On the. Facebook page they're welcome to join that and and get on that and then kind of keep up what's going On In southeast missouri and they can contact us directly through that.

1:39:03 As well those are the. EASIEST ways i hop On the grizzlies On the hunt Podcast on wednesday Nights most wednesday nights at, eight o'clock and on his channel as, a panelist And so i'm. Out there, love it, Good, stuff mike thank you so much for. Coming, on no, THANK you i really. Appreciate it you've got a great Show and I'm glad i've got to be a part. OF it i just wanted to take a few minutes to say thank you, to You holl with listeners for listening to. The podcast please take a minute to help out the show by subscribing, on YouTube making sure you hit the bell so you don't miss, any notifications and share the episode on YouTube with. A, friend also if you're listening to us on, a podcast thank you, so much make sure that you're subscribed share the show with. A, friend really it's all about sharing the show wherever. You can if you've had a bigfoot encounter related to, the following or know someone, who has please reach out to Me At bigfoot society at gmail dot com or pass on.

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