Bigfoot Sighting in Indiana: Terry’s True Encounter near Morgan Monroe & Putnam County

0:00 You're listening to BIGFA Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us, all right, pick for the Society. You've got the privilege of talking to Terry today. Terry's an individual. I got connected to send a message after I think probably Terry, I saw you in the Small Town Monsters documentary. I'm guessing yeah, and I was like, man, I would love to have a chat with Terry. So reached out and he was willing to come on the show.

0:53 So a few things about Terry here. Terry's an outdoorsman, a photographer and also a bigfoot investigator, and he's had some really interesting things happen along the years, so that's why he is on the show today to share a bit about that. So welcome to the show, Terry. How are you doing. I'm doing fine. Thank you for having me. On, absolutely Terry, if you wouldn't mind taking us back to when you first started having interactions with Bigfoot and what that was like at that point in your life. For me, it's here in Indiana, Okay. So I'm gonna guess I was in fifth grade and me and a friend who lived on a farm across from us, were on his property in his wintertime, and we were out in his woods playing and we had just came back across the creek and we're going to head back up to his house. When we got just maybe I don't know, hundred yards or so from the woods into the pasture, we heard a loud noise which drew our attention to turn around look, and we saw something tall, dark and hairy. It looked like it probably stepped on a fence back there, and it was walking behind a woodpile, and we could tell it was tall

2:24 because I knew about how tall the woodpile was or the fallen tree. And then it came around the corner I could do that s and then kind of it looked like it was. We come back down the hill towards where we are, but then it turned and went back up and we saw it walk off into the next set of woods on the other person's property, and I don't know, want me to say bigfoot, but we said bigfoot. And. I guess that's the only thing we knew what we thought it could be. And so, like dumb young kids did, we said, we're going to go look. So we go back into the woods and we go up to where the tracks are and they are barefoot tracks and they're pretty big. Of course, we know we didn't measure them at that time. We had nothing with us, and we wouldn't have known what to do back then, being such a young age. So we're like, wow, why would anybody be walking in the woods barefoot? And we thought maybe it was just a guy in a coat. But with that now, this guy would freeze that being barefoot. So we decided we're going to follow the tracks. So we started following the tracks. We go into the next section of woods and then this is where it got airing, and we we found maybe four the six piles of rocks, maybe two foot tall, stacked in pyramid shapes and we were like, what is this And so look, we started

3:56 uncovering one of the piles of rocks and there was a dead cat onan so we didn't cover another set of rocks a dead cat. So this whatever, this was storing food and it was so weird because we know animals do not store food, especially like that. And that's when we decided we're leaving. So we left. And that was to the extend of all that happened that day. Every once in a while at our house we would hear We heard one night a man screaming and it was so loud that the next day our neighbors Bosso heard it and we didn't know if that was cougar or we.

4:39 Didn't think about bigfoot. And so let's fast forward to the summer. I go back over to that farmhouse. It's owned by another new family, and I stopped and I talked to the sun that was outside, and I told them about our childhood experiences on the farm. I said, the way I could go back there, and look, I'm just I've been dying to know if there's still any signs of what I see. And he goes, let me get dad out here. His dad knows more about what's going on, and he really should be the one that says yeah, r nay. And so his dad comes out and I tell him and I said, have you noticed anything odd or had any experiences? And he goes no, but and he's talking to his son. He goes, but your sister has, And the son kind of perks up, like what, and he goes, yeah, she used to have parties back there in the woods, and she won't do it anymore because she kept seeing the shadow people.

5:42 And the son was like, why if I never heard about this? So I was fascinated to think that there still could be activity after all these years back in those woods with maybe the same thing or offspring of whatever it was. It could be generational. And I still would love to go back there, but he wouldn't allow me to go back there. So I don't know if it's because the insurance reasons are why, but he. Wouldn't want to go back on his property. So that was my experience as a child, and I wanted to follow up with it since I knew more about what to do today. So that's pretty interesting.

6:25 Okay, So yeah, that is extremely interesting. So to maybe ask a few questions about what you've shared so far. So you said it was tall, dark and hairy. How far away from it would you approximate that it was? So from the creek to where we were, maybe one hundred yards from the creek to the hill, maybe another fifty we could clearly see it. We could clearly see it once it came around the woodpile or the tree to keep calling woodpile is a fallen tree. But we could clearly see it when it came in. Did that little s turn back up the hill because that was coming down at us and then it turned and went back up.

7:08 How tall would you think it was. Man as a kid in the distance. It's really hard to say. It could have been six or seven foot. Maybe it was big, had long arms, darkened fur, and at first we thought it was just a guy who wearing a coat until we saw the footprint. Absolutely, that is so one hundred yards fifty yards that would be you'd see stuff, but it would be hard to see some details. Probably did you, oh, yeah, we could make out facial. Or I know, I know, maybe this is why it turned up.

7:54 I do know it looked at us because you could see what looked like I guess from that distance a face, a face looking at us, but you couldn't make out because we thought it was maybe wearing a fur hat, and you just couldn't make out the details. So that's why we thought it was a person at first. You said it so dark dark kind of coat or hair, whatever you would want to call it. Were you able to see a color at all, or just that it was dark. It looked like black, and it was all black, not just from because if a person one had just been wearing a coat, it had been from the waist up.

8:42 But it's all dark. But we didn't put that two and two together at the time. Oh, sure, you're in fifth grade, so you're. We were really scared because we both yelled like bigfoot. And then then we it was like, let's got the kids and I took over. Let's go look. Absolutely what year was this. Let's see. Sixty one, and I'm not sure how old I wasn't fifth grade. You could have been around ten or eleven potentially.

9:22 Probably, yeah, probably not that age bracket. Yeah, I wouldn't have been older. I know that. Let's see, that would have been so twenty five years ago. Two and then what's the seventies. Maybe, yeah, I would say definitely the seventies. Okay, gotcha. So had you heard anything about bigfoot activity in the area prior to the or seen any movies. No, I didn't even know anything about really bigfoot, so I never would have I thought anything about it. And I'm like I said, I'm not even for sure why we said bigfood. I really can't remember watching anything or I don't even know how I knew about bigfoot.

10:12 I really don't. Yeah, that that is probably one of the weirdest things right there is It's very strange. But you knew to yell it and that's what you did. So there you go. Also, so you went back to the property then as an adult or was it the summer next? No, I went back as an adult this summer, okay, gotcha, Because it's always been in back my mind that I want to go back, and I really wanted to go back into the next section of the woods where the piles of rocks were to see if they were still there, and just to see if there was because now I know what to look for as far as activity goes, and that's what.

11:00 I really just wanted to see. I found it interesting that the dad had told me about his daughter being scared to go back there because I've seen shadow people. Absolutely, I'm guessing you never got access to talk to the daughter. Probably correct, No, And. I gave him my number and told him if she would ever want contact me, to do gotcha. So let's go back to your in fifth grade. You have this really interesting encounter that happens. Your friend is there, and it's just one of those classic Americana stories young kids, the monster stranger things. How did that start affecting you in the years after it? Did you jump right into I got to figure out what this is? Or did you forget about it and come back at a later time.

11:55 I just forgot all about it. Remember telling another body at school, and he used to joke with me about it, and that was just a thing even through high school that we joked about always you do a big foot around. That was his joke with me, and that was really it. There was never no thinking about, oh, I should go back and look. I also find this very interesting that the guy that I was with, his cousin went to my high school, and she recently contacted me about her daughter who lives out by Stylesville, and said her daughter thinks that they have a big foot on their property.

12:48 So I thought this was very interesting. There was a family connection to my friend back then that went to current today, and so I went and looked, and I got some interesting things in my trail camera that I'm not really. For sure what they are. But after about three or four days the activities stopped, so either I scared it off or it's staying away from my cameras. Whatever this thing was on my camera, I thought that was very interesting to tie in between my friend back then and my investigation that I went to just recently. Absolutely in Indiana has come up on the show actually quite a bit recently, but it's been more southern Indiana because you're down there by the Ohio River in the border of Kentucky. So there's a lot going on down there.

13:40 As you mentioned Stylesville, and I'm looking it up, that's actually up closer to Indianapolis right now. Stylesville is if you go out forty west. I live in Plainfield, so it's about twenty something minutes west on US forty. Okay. Now, an interesting thing about this one I just did. My encounter as a child was in Danville, and one of my Hotspots is in Bainbridge, and there's a lot activity in near Amo. So there's a lot of activity in this one little area of the west side of Indianapolis.

14:31 I don't know if they are the same. I also have a friend who lives just west of forty two in Morrisville who had a siding on his property, So I don't know if these are the same plans or different ones. But it's just interesting. There's a lot of activity not just down southern Indiana, but also in this area. Also. That's good to know because a lot of the stuff I get is from like who's your National Forest? And then I just talked to a guy from that was Brown County State Park. He had something happening there. Yeah, that was really interesting. But is so is there a good amount of forest to the west of Indianapolis.

15:20 Then yeah, you. Got Turkey Run, you got shades. Those are huge tracks of forests. And then you have a lot of nature preserves. And this seems to be where I find the most activity or nature preserves. Maybe it's because it's less travel with people, because some of the nature breserves I go to are. Not well known. So maybe they. Like those areas because there's water, there's deer. I mean, it's all the food source. Absolutely. I'm glad you brought up Turkey Run because I was not aware this is the same area and that places come up on the show before. Some really weird encounters and sightings happened in that park, at least at least one of them that I can remember, and I visited there as a younger person, and it's you've got the that that canyon area, you go into the high walls, and really easy to see how something could hide out in there. But have you heard of anything happening in that area?

16:26 Then I personally haven't, but I don't really know a lot of people from that area. Okay, another kind of weird thing that happened just recently while we were out near that area. We were fishing on a boat. Now I'm not going to say this is one hundred percent Bigfoot, but I really don't know how to explain this. We run a boat on the north end of a lake in Waveland, It's called Waveland Lake, and that's near probably Shades and Turkey Run, and this area of COVID just came out of on the boat. We the best way I can describe it.

17:07 On the hill of this cove was woods and then also cornfields, so there's nothing really, no houses or nothing right there. And we heard it sounded almost like an ELK call, but different, and we both looked at each other, what and the heck was that? So I played an ELK call on YouTube just to see if I could get a response, and we heard something run off heavy, but we never saw one thing move at all, And I'm thinking, how should we should have seen corn moving or woods moving and we didn't see nothing at all.

17:48 And I didn't tell my buddy this because he's not really much of a believer in big food, but it really reminded me. And I know the show is kind of a spoof, but it reminded me on a show that had the midnight Whistler on it, and it sounded kind of like that, because that sounds like an ELK caol and I thought, now, I know that's reaching that would be the midnight whistler, But it didn't make me think maybe it was a bigfoot screaming ass for being too close to the woods, but did. Sound like an ELK, And I'm thinking, we don't. Have to at least roman free in Indiana that I know of. No, I don't know it's true or not. It just could be assuming. But that was very odd.

18:32 No, that is odd. So you had mentioned earlier that you went away from the subject, you forgot about the childhood encounter. Was there a certain thing that brought you back then in your adult years to looking into this subject. Yeah. I had met a guy while we were out in my hotspot out in Petnham County. This was a strange way of meeting him. We me and my buddy were hiking at this hot spot and we come across this guy and his wife, and we'd talked to him about just normal stuff and then we didn't really mention anything about bigfoot at the time. And then I think he asked us why we were there, and we told him that we were checking out some odd stuff that's been going on in this area. Well, he messaged me later on Facebook. I don't know how he found me, but were you by chance to one of hiking that day as to yel And we got the talking and found out that he lives in this area I told you about near Amo.

19:45 They had a lot of activity. And they were there for the same reason looking because they've had encounters at the same place. And that's how I. Got hooked up with the IBRO is through him, because he attended a lot of stuff going on with our local chapter. And that's how I got plugged in. Gotcha and I would I would guess, So IBr O is that like a local Bigfoot research group for Indiana? Then yes, okay, yes, that's ran By Leroy Nail.

20:25 Sure, yep, I've heard that name before. And so I started going to the get togethers, and I've been going for oh Man a long time, and I get to know a lot of the core people, and then eventually I became one of the core people and I went from curiosity to being a researcher. Was there a certain event that took you from that curiosity to being a researcher? Usually when you talk to people, there's something that kind of pushes you over the edge.

21:06 Or was that something where you were already there because of your childhood experience. No, it was because of the different things that we were experiencing at this one particular location out in Petenham County that just made you want to know more about what's going on. And like when you hear what sounds like a Louisville sluggerhead tree and you're out of the middle of nowhere and you know it's not a person. You start to think what a nature can do that. You start finding track lines of barefoot tracks, which.

21:53 Brought me back to my childhood. You're like, what could do that? I guess it could be a person walking the creek, But when you get into the size of the tracks, they are saying. This person's got really huge feet. And then why would a kid be walking barefoot and towards cold weather time? And then those things make you want no more. And then the more you get into it, the more weird things happened and you experience, and you just keep wanting to know more and more. Absolutely, And I apologize, my mute button has decided to stick, so that's why I'm taking a few seconds to kick back in. But so, this Putnam County definitely has some interesting things going on. Has it gotten to the point where you or people in your group have also had sightings in the area as well?

22:49 Yes, I want the guy I told you I met at this particular place had not only sightings on his property, family as kids, everyone of them seeing this particular group of bigfoots on their property for a long time. It used to be they choked. It was like a little stopping point for him. They had a little patch of woods in the back of their property butted the cornfields, and this particular group of bigfoots would come by every year and they would see them. They got so used to see them that they kind of left them alone because they just got to accept that that's what they were, and that's I know that they've had multiple sightings.

23:41 And is it so it sounds like it's a thing where it only happens certain times of the year, Is that right? No, this is all year round in this particular area. Same thing with Morgan Moreau another huge hot spot. They have sightings all year round. So I don't believe they migrate. And Morgan Monroe is a state forest that's south of Indianapolis. Correct, Yes, towards Martinsville, gotcha. And really looking at the map, that forest could connect to Yellowwood, which could connect really to Brown County State Park. So yeah, it all goes together, doesn't it. Yes, Yeah, wild from I'll say this at different parts of the country seem to have different types of sightings or people report them looking certain ways. Have you found any patterns to the sightings that you're seeing around this area? Do they look a certain way usually or certain colors.

24:48 Normally? The people that I've talked to have seen them all say dark. The other thing is a friend of mine a very close encounter and. Within ten feet of them, and pitched. Black night and snapped a picture at the last second because he felt like something was wrong. He could fill the heat off of something. So they snapped a picture and it took off running once it realized that my friend had a phone in his hand and it the picture looks just more it looks more humanoid than it does ape, but it still has like an apeish looking features. Also, it's kind of like a cross between ape and man from the look of the face. So that's probably the best picture I've ever seen of one that close as far as the facial features.

25:47 Wow, that's really a big deal. Oh yeah, it's a huge deal. And he also was in the interview for Small Town Monsters, which it hasn't aired yet. I don't know if they're going to show the picture or not. But he didn't never wanted to go on the internet because you know, critics are people tear things apart and would say photoshop or AI. And but it's legit. It's a legit. Picture, which is wild. The way it's subscribed, it sounds like first it sounds like it was taken before AI. Yes, yeah, so that's my.

26:28 Friend's not techy savvy, so he wouldn't know how to do that. It's impossible. And we took this picture. To the Ohio Bigfoot conference and we showed at that time, when he was alive, doctor Jeff Miltrim. We showed him, and we showed Cliff Brockman. And later I found out that doctor Jeff Mildrim had approached Cliff and said, what do you think that picture? That's pretty pretty wild. They were intrigued by it, and so later I had a chance to talk to Melbourn and he's, Okay, I need to know more about this picture to back up your story because I don't know you, I don't know him.

27:10 I'm the circumstances because but I want to see his camera roll on his film so I could see the series of pictures he's taken. And I said, okay, I'll get that for you, And so I did what he had asked me to do, and there's only just a few pictures on that particular day. He goes, it's aunt that he didn't. Take a bunch of pictures that day, and I'm like, he didn't take a bunch of pictures and he's not the type he just goes randomly just take an odd picture. So he had his camera writing case something happened. He didn't know he was going to take a picture, so why would he have multiple pictures of things that he's not normally taking pictures all the time. So I said, I gave you what you wanted, here's the camera role.

27:56 What more can we do? And he's it's just going to I'll have to say it's an unknown because I don't know all the circumstances and it could be legit. And like my friend says, it's pretty legit, so he's want to sell it. Yeah, in all respect to doctor Meltrim, we did lose a great guy in the community, But no, personally, I don't think that would be enough to discredit anything. Just the fact that take other photos that to me doesn't make sense, each to their own. I would want to look more into the metadata of the photo to see, Okay, if it's taken on a phone, then it probably has date and also coordinate information, so I can say, okay, look up the coordinates. Is it the same area where this guy is saying he took the photo?

28:48 Man? That that sounds very compelling. It's going to be a photo like that where it could really kick things off. And it's been what let's see sixty seven to now is to what fifty sixty years? It's time to have some other type of incredible evidence is needed. And in today's day, where there's AI, it's hard, really hard to get that legitimate evidence. And I think, yeah, in. This particular area where this picture was taken, we've cast tracks, We've got hair samples that right now we're sending. We've sent off to I believe his name is Darby.

29:31 Yeah, Diarby are quite or tay huh. So we sent this off just recently to his new lab that he's at to be analyzed. And something else that we have that most people don't have is we have somebody who works as a dispatcher for that area and they're calling my friend all the time telling them about another sighting that they have to go investigate. And there's lots of sighting that are going undocumented in that area. Oh my goodness, we're casting tracks, hair samples. My friend had the siding there. We've had rockstrown at us, We've had you name it. We get things that happened to us in this area. So not just Fyrie and Petnam County, but also in Morgham and Road.

30:22 And it's wild that this If you look at a map, as you said, it's within twenty miles of Indianapolis, right, Oh, that's incredible. But I've been to that area and you don't have to get far outside the city to realize that, Yeah, there's some woods out here. I think we went some some dairy farm on the northwest side of Indianapolis, and long story short, the woods out there were incredible and it was right outside the city. So I can totally see now that I know this, Yeah, there could definitely be a ton of bigfoot activity out there in these areas. I think that's a really interesting lesson potentially for other people in other parts of the country to learn, is you get the right connection like that, and you're going to get the stuff that just gets tossed away by the police department because they don't really care or they don't.

31:20 Well, nine times out of ten, when the officer gets there, there's nothing to see, so true, true, just reporting of something. That's been told to them. Though now I do know somebody. Have met over the years who's a retired Louisiana State Police officer. And he's had a siding and that's why he's. In it, and that tennans always get my attention when you're dealing with somebody who's in law enforcement that has had a siding, because that adds credibility because they're detailed people. They're not gonna mistake a human or a bear for a bigfoot. They know what they're seeing when they see it, and that just adds more credibility to me when you have somebody that's higher up in the credibility department that has a sighting.

32:13 So you already mentioned that there's been a at least one ten foot away encounter where the photo was taken. Yeah, was that an outlier where you guys are getting that close or are have there been other times when you've gotten relatively close. Let's have one. We've had one in the same area we were sitting in. This is how crazy we are and this is what he did when he has an encounter. Let me back up to history first, and I'll go to our current encounter bit. Sir, he was sitting deep in the woods in this area in a chair in front of his vehicle.

32:55 He had thrown some chicken gizer deel around the area, which I thought man just wanting to be a bigfoot dinner, and he said, you could hear the gids of being eaten and something coming around. He said, at first I thought this raccoons or an animal, and then he said, I just had this uneasy feeling. And he said, I always keep my. Phone on without the light on, the camera in my front pocket and my sweatshirt, so in case. I need to take a picture, I can real quick. And that's when I felt like I could almost feel the breath with something real close to me, and I got scared, so I wanted to see what it was, so I take a picture, and he said, the camera took the picture and then immediately it just tore off through the woods.

33:46 He said, you could just tell as mad. So fast forward to us sitting in chairs in front of the vehicle on a parking lot not too far from where he has encounter. We're doing our just doing some whoops and goofing off really and maybe I want to say twenty yards or less in that area off to my right. I had just got out of the jeep to get something, and I was checking the. Back of the vehicle because he thought he heard something back there, so. I went to look, and my guy, there's nothing back there, and I just get ready to come around the corner and I hear almost a softer version of my whoop about twenty yards to my right in the woods, and I was so scared. I ran jumped inside the vehicle, and I knew that there wasn't normal. I was like, there's no animals that can mimic my whoop, and.

34:50 That really terrified me. I don't get scared too often, but I've had enough time said this stuff happens that does scare you. And then. It calmed down after a while, and then nothing else happened. So I think it was just letting us know it was there and knew that it was watching us, and. Let us know it was in the area. And that's the same area we've also been hitting with rocks, and okay, that's a really hot area. So it sounds like most of the interactions that are happening in this area are pretty non aggressive, though, I guess besides the rocks.

35:39 I was gonna say the way the rocks hit us, Okay, the first rock that hit my buddy sitting left to me and a chair, and it hit just the top of his left knee and then ricocheted and hit me in my right thigh. And we're sitting not even within two foot of each other and me and I heard him say ouch, and then I said ouch, and. It stung my right leg. So the fact that. I wonder how hard it must have skipped off of him to hit me, because it hurt when it hit my right thigh. And so we're like discussing this, and within it maybe five minutes, I hear a thud and I hear him go out again, and he got hit in the chest and it hit him.

36:27 Hard enough to have left the bruise. And I'm thinking, what. Kind of person, unless they're using night vision, can throw rocks from the woods with accuracy like that. And I don't know if I would call that aggressive, but maybe wanting us to. Leave, maybe, I don't know. I don't know how you would categorize that. And then just recently, maybe two nights ago, we had something throw something very aggressively at the vehicle. We were in a different location in that same area, and it hit the vehicle on the top. It's got like a rack up top. It hit it hard enough that it sounded like a gunshot and the you know how tuning fork sounds when you hit it. Yes, that's what the one of the bars on his the rack did after it hit it. Now, that was thrown with some force and aggressive. So we left. But we've never I don't know, I never felt like a danger, but I know when to leave when things don't seem right.

37:42 Absolutely, And I think it's good that you feel like that. I'm trying to think of what I would feel like in that same situation. And man, when most of the rock throwing stories I take, it's like they're not getting hit. They're getting it's going by their head or or it's whizzing by that. But you're actually getting hit and it's hurting you, guys, And that kind of feels okay. It's things are changing a little bit, kind of playing for key. How big are the rocks that you're getting thrown at you? That's just you know, when it's pitch dark and you can't see, and like in the parking lot, it's all gravel, So how are you supposed to find water through? And then we tried to find whatever threw in the woods that made that really loud hit. We couldn't find nothing because you don't know what direction it's coming. And then with the impact that would had to ricocheted off somewhere else.

38:33 So they ought to find what it was would be very hard. Yeah, are there any bluff charges that happen in the same. Area another section of this area? I wouldn't. I don't know if i'd categorize this as a bluff charge. But I was doing a ten mile high in this area on a trail system, and I was on mile ten maybe and maybe trail or maybe about nine miles, and I had just came around this lake in the woods and I come across a really weird tree structure that caught my attention. A tree had been pulled out of the ground, moved over three feet, and then wedged into another tree. I knew a storm couldn't pick up a tree and move it like this, And then I had another cross piece and it was just really weird.

39:35 So I'm filming it and I hear what sounds like the best way I could describe it as a man's deep below and it was almost like it was like a grunt, and I know it wasn't a deer. It was too manly to sound and that really scared me. And I was like, I guess it didn't like me filming structure, So I'm getting out here. So that's what I did. I left. But that's the only thing I could think of when you said a bluff charge or a bluff charge. Absolutely, taking everything you've said into consideration, I would agree with you that this is a very active area. And especially this isn't a state like Oregon or Washington. It's Indiana.

40:21 But you've got some wild stuff going on, which just this by itself, I'd say people maybe need to take a closer look at Indiana, and not just the southern part of the state where most people go. But would you be able to share anything that has happened down in Morgan Monroe. Most of the certain things that I was just talking to you about, okay, cool, cool, And the only time I've ever seen eyeshine is down in southern Indiana, Like the southern like what you're talking about, the southern part of the state. And this area is another hot spot that another friend has been researching for a really long time.

41:02 And every time we go there normally we see eye shine. And we just went there a couple of weeks ago and it was out in the woods and I've never seen this before ever. I've seen eye shine, but I've never seen this happen before. I was watching this whitish yellow. I guess it'd be an orb or it could be an eye I don't know if faded like it was going to disappear. It started to fade and it turned to red, and then it was red for ten seconds and then it disappeared. I've never seen that happen before in my life, and I don't explain it. I don't know what it was. I don't know if it's an orb or eye shine, but I've never seen nothing change colors like that.

41:46 As at first, it is really interesting when you get things like that into the equation, not to say that we can explain Bigfoot, but then you also start to put things like maybe orbs lights that you can't explain, and just it really gets interesting, and are you seeing lights like that up in the Putnam County area as well. All my investigation there has been during the day. Most of my activity at Mortonroe is late into evening or Monroe. Yes, there's lots of Like my buddy who took that picture right before he seen that thing, or took the picture of it, he was seeing orbs and he somehow thinks that they're usually is orbs right before signing.

42:41 I don't know if that's true or not. I don't know enough about the subject to say that's yeah, your name, But I've never seen orbs at Putnam County because it's during the day. Is there a reason that you've been sticking to the daytime hours for investigation in Putnam County. Only because that's when they're active. It seems like they're It's funny. I had a friend come down from New Jersey and he didn't leave in Bigfoot, and I wanted to take him to this place, not only to hike, but to let him see for himself what happens during the day.

43:23 And so we're down at the creek and. Per sitting there talking and I said, watch, I'll do a couple of rock collaps, and I took some rocks. I clapped him. No, sooner I did that. And we don't know where this came from. A branch comes flying and like scares us. He didn't see it happened. I didn't see it happened. So I assumed he did it. He assumed I did it, And he said, wow, where did that come from? So we go over and look at it and it's not even from the same type of tree that's near there, So what even that type of branch? And he's like, that's the same from the same type of tree. And so if I told you, I said, you must not really like me doing the rock collapse. And he said, man, I never would believe this unless I experienced it for myself. And I said, this area has a lo activity during the day.

44:22 And so we're hiking up and we're getting ready to leave, and. There's a really steep ridge that you go across and you look down to the creek and across and he stops me and he goes, what and the he uses the f bomber? Is that over there? We see these two yellow eyes in the brush looking at us, and. You see it? You see it? Said, yeah, I see it, And so We sat there staring at it for a while and you can see it blinking, and then they just quit, so it left whatever it was quit blinking ass so we wouldn't see it. And my buddy was just blown away because Wow, Because when I get back to New Jersey, I'm gonta start looking for all these type of things you told me look for with the tree bends and breaks, and because I'm gonna be more aware of my surroundings now because I just never would believe this.

45:15 I experienced it myself. Well, that's pretty cool. That is really cool. Do you guys have trees get pushed over as well when you're in there? Oh yeah, we get. It's mainly bows and stuff and pre structures that we find. We've only been one place where we heard a tree get crushed. I don't know if it's stepped on it and broke it or if it pushed it over, but it was definitely very loud and you could tell it definitely was a tree that kind of We got that on our audio, so it's pretty cool. We also got the audio of the rocks being thrown at our vehicle, so we got a lot of audio. But I don't know if I've ever heard a bunch of trees getting pushed down. We had one tree that heard come down.

46:17 We don't know if that was from a storm or rain or just a tree falling. We can't really say any of these things are actually bigfoot exactly. Does that ever happen after you guys do some sort of vocalization or tree knock or anything like that, or is it just happening randomly. Awestly From what I've discovered or found. And I don't know if other researchers would agree with this, I don't think they like you doing the whoops in the knox and any of that stuff. I know my friend's with me used to always do this wounded rabbit call, and every time he'd get covered with rocks. And one time in the group he was playing that and a big limb came and smashed out the windshield of was jeep, and they don't like it, so he quit using it.

47:14 So I know they don't like that. But we think maybe when you're out there, you just need to be quiet and not do any of that stuff, because we really feel like they know you're already there. Why do you need to do all that stuff anyway? Was that also in Putnam County where the guy's window got broken? Now that was I want to say in Yellowood. Which is right next to Morgan Monroe. Which, yeah, Morgan Rogue is all the way to Yellowood. Wow, they're not really messing around over there. That's wild. That is wild, has anyone so I guess it sounds like no one has gotten hurt past having a rocket thrown at them and it's stinging. Uh huh, Okay, that's good.

48:03 We really don't. We really don't feel like they're out to do anything wrong to you. It's like they're probably just as curious. About us as we are them, and they tend to hang around campgrounds. They seem to like music and kids and just like seeing what we're doing. Have there been any events that could be considered in for sound related that you've experienced or heard about? Yes, Actually, of all places my spot in Putnam County, this has happened to multiple people there that you feel like you're disorientated and you don't know where you're at all of a sudden, You've walked a certain trail maybe one hundred times, and now all of a sudden, you don't know where you're at.

49:00 And it's a very weird feeling. And that's happening to more than one person, Yes, okay, wow, sometimes in a group as well. There's been two of us together, or my other friend with some other people and it's my one friend one time was there with his family and his family's what's wrong with you? And he didn't remember being there. And that's how we call it being zapped, And that's the term we use for it when all of a sudden, you're disorientated or I feel like you don't know what's going on.

49:49 I feel like they sapped you. Yeah, that that definitely makes sense. Are there other things reported in this same county that are not big related but would be like similar types of weird creatures out there? Oh, there's a rumor of the dog man. How do you really know that's out there? You know that's also been rumored to be out there, but I don't know of any other type cryptid activity. What is your goal with the research that you've been doing in the different areas that you have lots of activity?

50:34 Are you trying to work towards a certain thing like discovery of the species or what would you say to. That, I really do it because I want to know what they are, what we kind of learned about their habits. We learn about maybe the areas they frequent, and we know something about them, but I want to know. It'd be so nice if it was something that science said existed and they could prove it, and they say the only way they're ever going to do that is they have a body on the table. I guess for me, it's just about keep learning about who they are what they are, and that's what keeps me going. We all share our research with people that we trust, and it all helps to learn more, even from other people, and I guess that's my goal, is to learn more about them.

51:40 That sounds like a great goal for sure, Terry. I want to make sure as we get towards the end of the interview, and thank you so much for spending some time this afternoon talking to me about what you're experiencing their west of Indianapolis. I want to make sure, though, if do you have anything where ways people can keep up to what you guys are up to, or is it a thing where your research group and sometimes you get on different shows to share about it. You can normally find out through the local chapter there's a lot of times that's where things are posting on Facebook.

52:21 Is that the. Website or the Facebook group? And every year we have an Indian Bigfoot Conference. We just had our second one. That's always at the last weekend of September. We have a town hall on that Friday night where people can come and share. That's always really good because that's a. Great way for people to connect and learn about what's going on in their area. So that's another way of really getting involved as going to one of the conferences. Going to there's usually two get togethers a year that the group does when the spring and one in the fall. Attend one of those, learn what's going on from the research and just get involved.

53:05 Absolutely. What's the name of the Facebook group? Is it just look up for look up IBRO. Or yeah, Indiana Bigfoot Research Organization. Okay, And if people are interested that are maybe they're listening from this area. Where does the town hall take place? That is at the Indiana Bigfoot Conference? Oh okay, gotcha, that's once a year now. Leroy also does library talks and normally he posts that information also on Facebook on that page, so they're always doing library talk so somebody can notify him and say, hey, whyon't you come down here and speak and he'll go speak so.

53:49 Fantastic. I'll make sure that I have links to that in the show notes for this episode so people can easily find that. Terry, thank you so much for coming on the show. Show really opened my eyes to I didn't know so much stuff was going on closer to Indianapolis than the South. But thank you for chatting today. You're welcome in time. Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've seen something that no one can explain, or if you're a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground, or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense, if you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

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