Dec. 11, 2025

Bigfoot Stalks Fishermen Near Ponca City — ‘Something Forced Us To Leave’

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Season 1

In this episode of Bigfoot Society, a father and son from Ponca City, Oklahoma share a chilling series of Bigfoot encounters that span nearly a decade. What began near Highway 60 and Charlie Creek escalated into multiple close-range Sasquatch sightings around Kaw Dam and the river, including one terrifying moment where a teenager finds himself just three feet away from a massive, grunting figure in the dark. As cows panic, coyotes scatter, and something unseen moves through the trees, the family realizes this is no ordinary wildlife encounter.


The story includes face-to-face Bigfoot encounters, nighttime fishing incidents, reports of possible infrasound effects, and unsettling behavior that suggests intelligence and intent. With activity reported by locals, hunters, and even law enforcement sources, this episode explores why so many encounters go unreported — and what happens when Sasquatch refuses to stay hidden. If you’re interested in real Bigfoot sightings, Sasquatch encounters in Oklahoma, Kaw Dam stories, and firsthand cryptid experiences, this is an episode you won’t forget.

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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Voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in,

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because today you'll hear another account that just might change

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the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all.

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Right, pick for Society, Welcome back for another episode. I've

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got the privilege of having Jack and Jason with me today,

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father and son from Oklahoma. They've got some really interesting

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things that have happened over the years down there that

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they've experienced.

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But welcome to the show. Guys. How's it going going great?

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It's going real good.

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How are you doing good?

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We're starting to get into these video interviews and a

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little bit different than talking to people on the phone,

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but I like it, so I am happy and thankful

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that you guys are willing to do this. But yeah,

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let's take it back to maybe the first thing chronologically

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that was experienced. That might be a good place to

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start there, if that's all right.

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Okay, it all started, let's see. It all started back

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in September twenty eight of twenty fifteen. My mother in

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law was dying and we live in Ponca City, Oklahoma,

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and so she and father in law live about ten

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miles east of Ponca City, and it's near the river

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out there. So we got there probably about eleven thirty

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twelve o'clock at night, and the family had just started

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gathering and we went in to pay our final respects.

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But my wife, Becky and I got out of the

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car across the highway Highway sixty. Across Highway sixty there

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is a creek called Charlie Creek, and in that field

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out there are cattle and everything. Well, it was like

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twelve thirty one o'clock in the morning, and those cows

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were going nuts. Man, they were going crazy. They were

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bellowing and whining, and I thought, man, that is just

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that's weird. And then the coyotes were just going berserk

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out there. And so we go in, we pay our

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respects to our mother in law and her mom and

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then we all gather out out on the porch to

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talk while we're waiting for the funeral home to come

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and pick up her body. Well, the house that they

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said at has an L shaped front porch. It kind

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of goes down the east side and then down the

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say it goes down the down the east or no doubt, yeah,

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down the I'm turned around on. It goes down the

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east side a little bit and then back toward the

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west side. And so when you're sitting out there, we

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could hear in the night, we could hear these whoops

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start out and it's just like whoop whooo like that,

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and it was over by the creek and everything, and

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we could hear it, and the little kids were getting

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freaked out by it. And her dad says, oh, it's

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just that old Bigfoot. Said he does that every once

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in a wall, you know, And so that really added

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to the fear of the little kids. And after a

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while they got the kids calmed down, and then the

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kids all went, you know, back into a bedroom or

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setting to play. Well, the father in law sits there

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and we're all adults talking, and he said, I've lived

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out here seventy some eighty years he said, I've never

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heard that before. For he said, I have camped all

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up and down that river and all up and down

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Charlie Creek, and said, I've never heard anything like that.

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And he had watched shows and stuff, so he figured

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it was a bigfoot. And so we go back out,

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you know, and it starts the whooping again. So we

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go back out. My wife and I decide that we

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want to walk toward toward Charlie Creek. So we start

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walking out in the yard. And as we're going out

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in the yard, behind me, above me, I can hear

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this breathing like you would breathe in your throat, you know.

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And so I thought, I'm not going to ask my

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wife this until we get ready to leave, you know.

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And so we're walking and we get out almost to

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the fence area, and my wife says, I think we

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need to turn around and go back. I said, okay, hunh.

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So we turned around and went back. Well, when we

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turned around, I noticed that the breathing just quit, and

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I thought, I don't hear any footsteps. I didn't hear

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any footsteps for it to come up there, and I

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don't hear any footsteps now, And I don't see anything,

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even though it was like super dark out there and everything.

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I thought, that's just weird. And so we go on

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back and we get ready to go home, and I

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tell my wife, I said, huh, and I said out there,

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said did you hear anything out there? We were hearing

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it walking out there. I said, why do you decide

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to turn back? And she said, I just had this

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thought coming to my mind, you need to go back,

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and you need to go back now. And so I

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just felt worried, and so I figured we better go back.

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And she said, and I did hear something. I said,

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what did you hear? And she said, I heard breathing.

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He said it was like somebody breathing in their throat.

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And I said where was it and she said it

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was above me, said it was tall, and I said

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it was on my right hand side, which was the

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side I heard it on, and we were facing this direction,

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so we heard it up here and it was just free.

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Pretty soon the whooping stopped, you know, everybody went home,

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and I would go back out to the father in

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laws every once in a while and say, hey, did

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you have any other things happening? And he said, oh yeah,

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he said, I kept hearing that whooping every few nights,

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and said, I just figured I'm not going to go

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out there and see what it is. I pretty much

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know what it is. And so he said one night

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the coyotes were going crazy, and he said the kyotes

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always went crazy, and then the whoopman would start, and said,

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I went to church and it was kind of foggy

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and stuff. One day, and I looked out there and

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somebody had hit a big buck, a big eight point buck,

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and said the thing had walked across the highway and

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in the field next to his house. It had died

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behind this old little eight y ten building, shell of

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a building, and it had died there. And so he

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told hisself, he said, I need to I need to

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pull that thing out of here and get it out

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in the field or something away from the house, you know, tomorrow.

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And he said that night the coyotes started again, and

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said it was right outside the window, and said I

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could hear them and they were fighting something. And he

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said when they were fighting, said every once in a

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while you could hear them yelp, and like one of

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them was getting hit and stuff. He said, the next day,

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I said, did you look outside and see what it was.

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And he goes, no, I didn't look outside, and.

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I thought, well I would have, but he he said,

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I got up and he's a hunter and a fisherman

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and everything, and he said, I went out there to

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pull that big old buck out into the field and

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it was gone.

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And he said there was hair around it and stuff.

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He said, so I started doing semi circles trying to

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find drag marks or trying to find something. And he

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said it wasn't droke off, said whatever had it picked

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it up and carried it out, said there's no that

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it could have. You know, ky holed at going to

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drag that giant deer and stuff, and said, whatever it

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was had to have picked the deer up and left

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with it. And you know, that was our first encounter.

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And that was back in twenty fifteen, and then we

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didn't have really any more encounters. And well he had

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some encounters. He had. Not only that, but he had

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a guy that lived down the road north of him,

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said that when the whooping would go on and stuff,

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said one night he had a big thud. He lived

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in a mobile home and said a trailer house and

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said it hit the trailer house and said it actually

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pushed the trailer house about an inch. Said, whatever hit it,

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just hit it so hard it pushed the trailer house

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about an inch. And he said, I went out and

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didn't see anything and looked up my wind that didn't

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see anything. And all that stopped and we didn't hear

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anything else until about twenty four, twenty twenty five, when

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Jason and I and his girlfriend would do a lot

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of fishing because we live to fish down around the

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river there, which is just my goodness, maybe half a

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mile from his house, a mile from his house, something

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like that. And then and then Jason had an encounter.

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Before Jason gets into that, let's let's talk a bit

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about the Ponca city there. So I don't think that

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has ever come up. I've had a lot of Oklahoma interviews,

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but I don't know if that particular area has come

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up yet. Is it known down there for a lot

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of big foot activity or is this pretty rare.

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Well for for because of where we are, we're surrounded

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by a whole bunch of water creeks and systems.

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So we have the Arkansas River. We have because we're

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like fifteen minutes away, thirty minutes away from Arkansas City, Kansas.

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So we got the Arkansas City River, and we have

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the we have Call City which has the Call Dam

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and all that. We have a bunch of waterways, so

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typically from Ponka and Call area. That's really big for

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a bunch of bigfoot and a bunch of animals.

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There's things that happened that people don't really report it

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or talk about it.

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There has been a siding here in town down at

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Standing Bear. There was this guy that had that didn't

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like police. He had gone out of jail. He does

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not like police, and he remembers he was he was

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with his daughter and he remembers calling the police and saying,

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you need to bring like everybody out here. There is

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a sasquatch out here, and you bring everybody out here.

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You need to bring like heavy guns, everything, and you

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bring everything out here. And he'd never he never went

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back again like he had the no no.

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And I actually heard that nine one one call. I

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actually heard that call.

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Really yes, uh huh oh wow? So how did you

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how are you able to hear that?

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I worked uh maintenance up at the Punk City Police Department.

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I've been there thirty one years and I'm a pastor

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here in town, and so, you know, I'm privy to

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a lot of stuff. I'll tell you that there's other

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police that have saw things, but they refused to talk

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because they'll think that they the other people will think

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that they're crazy.

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You know, I do not doubt it.

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So they've had sightings like out on patrol or going

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to different different calls, et cetera.

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Some of the some of them, some of them hunt,

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some of them hunt. He went hunting one night with

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not infrared. He went with night vision and he got

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a glimpse of them.

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No, honey, he was was who was? He works with

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a bigfoot group? Oh yeah, but I did get to

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see his night vision and that was pretty cool because

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it walked. It was whistling, and all of a sudden,

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the guy looks down and he's looking and the thing

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stands up and just walks into the trees just and

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it was huge, you know. But but uh, but yeah,

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they let's see where were we? But yeah, there's there's

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some big foot side eats and everything every once in

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a hall, but hardly anyone says anything about any of that.

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Absolutely, So it'll be interesting when this episode comes out.

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Sometimes people will send emails off to the side, kind

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of stay out of the comments and and we'll see

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what happens there. But did at this place, this this

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relative's house that you were at, were they ever finding

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footprints around the house or anything?

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I thought, you know, I don't think so he never

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mentioned footprints or anything. I wish we would look.

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Right, And I guess that's the thing, because it's like,

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you're not there to look for bigfoot. You're there for

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like a pretty you know, that's not a fun experience.

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I mean, you're you're paying last respects, so and it's

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just it's so weird because to have to deal with

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something bigfoot related during that it makes me wonder if

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there's any correlation. And I don't know because sometimes, you know,

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well actually a lot of times in this field, you

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get you get reports where there's been a person that's

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had an experience and it's related to a very almost

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traumatic time in their life, was like divorce or they

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have lost someone or or et cetera.

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And I don't know.

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If that if that happened because of that, or it's

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just they're in the area and it just happened to happen.

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You know. I honestly think that that actually has correlation

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to my grandma passing away, because at the same time,

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I haven't been to my grandpa's house in a really

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long time, but whenever I did go down there as

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a kid, whenever I went down there, I heard them.

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I heard the coyotes going sometimes. I heard the cows

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going sometimes. But like the way that they're describing this night,

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I mean, everything was at the same time going crazy,

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and that's never happened out there. I've never heard the

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cows and the coyotes and Bigfoot go at the same time.

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I mean, it sounded like Noah's Arc had every single

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animal right there, and everything was going on at the

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same time, and there's no way that would just happen randomly.

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And it just the fact that I knew that Bigfoot

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was a thing. I've never seen him before my grandma died,

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and as soon as she died, now I'm getting to

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see this dude three feet.

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Do you think do you think that they may have

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showed up because it was such a late hour at night,

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they saw lights and a bunch of cars.

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One yeah, you know, I would say that could probably

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be a good idea too, because you know, at the

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end of the day. You hear a lot of reports

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where it's like they're curious about stuff. I mean, I'm

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thinking right now, a lot of times a good way

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to get them in is to play a musical instrument

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that's not normally heard in the area where you're at.

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Like I've heard guys bringing them in with bagpipes. I

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think didgeridoo just came up on another interview I did.

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So I found that's a pattern where you do something

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that makes them really curious or like you're having a

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good time, or maybe just making a lot of noise

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and a lot of lights, as you said, that could

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definitely bring them in. There's been a lot of reports

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where the person will be watching TV and they'll feel

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something kind of behind them. They'll look back and there's

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one in the window, not watching them, but watching the

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TV through the window with So I think, I think

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you might be onto something there as well. So and

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the nine one one call, I love bigfoot nine one

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one calls because they are so hard to hear.

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Yeah, and I know this guy and he does not

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like cops. He's not gonna call cups just to call cups.

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Right, Nine one one calls are tricky. And this is

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per my my friend Eric Pelasio's he says, they're tricky.

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This is more or less because you got to get

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them quick. They don't stick around forever. You know, if

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you're gonna, if you're gonna try to listen to them,

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and you don't have a connection like you like you have, Uh,

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it's almost impossible unless you are extremely quick to try

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to get them. So we we had that interesting, interesting

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account and also a little bit of information about that

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there's other stuff going on in the Ponca City area too.

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But what would you say would be then the next

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thing that either of you have experienced regarding Bigfoot.

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The next thing would be but you're first, and Kim

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my first ever encounter with him, This was whenever I

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was a little bit younger. I was two years ago,

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two years ago, so sixteen. So we were out there,

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We're out there at the dam at called him and

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we were fishing because that's where we go to fish

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because they have some really nice catfish out there, really

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nice big catfish. So we're out there and you know,

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I like whenever I fish. I like to fish for

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a long time. So my dad will be telling me,

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come on, let's go. And I'd be like, just one more,

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just one more, and I'll throw it out there, and

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then it'll be like four hours later and I'm saying

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one more. So I probably said it about four times

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and I got it to push to about maybe one o'clock.

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It was probably one o'clock by the time we started

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backing up, and so we were head back up to

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the car, and I remember my former girlfriend, my girlfriend

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at the time, had called me, and so I answered

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her and said, Dad, give me one second, and so

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I started pacing. I have ADHD, so I like to

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walk around while I talk and pace. So I remember

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I walked over to where this like type of hill is.

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It's kind of like a hill up to a bridge

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and before then so it's like it's like a place

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for you to park pavement and then it's just like

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a little square and then it cuts off into grass

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and there's some tall grass and then hill and then water.

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So no matter where anything goes, it can't leave my sight,

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you know what I mean, It's in the open. Anywhere

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it goes. If it goes in that tall grass and

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it leads, it's in the open. So I remember I'm

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hearing the noise while I was on the phone, and

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so I told her, hey, hold on, and it was

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coming from the tall grass. Well, the noise that was

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making was like a wrestling noise, but it kind of

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sounded like, I don't know if you've ever as a

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kid or something chased a raccoon or something and it

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went into grass or whatever. But that sound, that little

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wrestling sound where you can tell it something small, that's

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what I heard. So I was like, okay, what's over here?

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And I thought maybe it was like a little cat,

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because I find cats over there all the time. So

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I was like, give me this secade, so I'll walk

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over there. And then while I was walking over there,

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the noise got like louder, not because I was walking

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towards it type louder, but like more of an aggressive

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type of movement. And so I remember going in there

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and all the tall grass was it was like wheat colored,

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so it was bright, so any other coloration I'll see

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easily through it. So I was sitting down, I was

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looking and I told her hold on. So I had

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to put myself on mute and stuff so I can

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turn on my flashlight. So I remember turning on my flashlight,

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and I looked and I saw something brown in there,

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and I was like, okay, I don't know what this is,

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but you know, okay. So then I remember taking myself

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off of me. I was like, hey, I'm finna look

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at what this is. Stay on the phone with me.

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I don't know what it is. So I remember like

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putting my hand in there and like moving, like moving

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it around and opening it, and man, I was probably

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two three foot away, and I remember opening it, and

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I just remember just looking straight and I thought I

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was looking at a wall, like I mean, like I

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thought I was looking at a wall. I remember looking

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up and I saw, I don't know, chainmail, chain mail.

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The knights that were chain mail that went from their

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head and down to their shoulders were kind of made

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to look like this. That's what he looked like looking

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he had no neck, like he was just stocky. And

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I remember looking up, dude, and I'm six foot right now,

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and that he was a taller.

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Than me, and you were looking what probably his chest.

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I was looking like right here at his chest when

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I looked at him, and I'm six foot, so imagine that,

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and his chest is like right here, So you still

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have about all this to go, dude, I mean his

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his his shoulders were like the sizes of my head,

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like you took my head and made it her shoulder,

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Like this thing was massive and whenever I mean I

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thought I was looking at a wall. I thought it

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was literally a wall. I thought somebody had a wall there,

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and the tall grasses grew around it. I didn't know

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what it was. I remember immediately like I freaked out

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and some odd thing happened in my head. I was like,

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I'm gonna run now, I'm not gonna I'm gonna run now,

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I'm gonna leave. It grunted at me, not an aggressive grunt,

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but more of like a m you know what I mean,

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Not like I'm not I can't do that deep voice,

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but like more of like a like kind of a

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grunt at me. And I started running and I was

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yelling at him to start the car, like leave, like

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I'm terrified. And I mean like I'm somebody that's not

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scared of much.

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Yeah, he's not scared of much. And he was running monster.

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Bro like I'm I'm not scared of much like anything

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I've been in rollover car rex and stuff like that,

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Like I'm not scared of much. And I remember like

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saying like this is a monster, like run like I

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don't know what to do. I can't do nothing. And

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I remember he was trying to give me to talk

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about it for a while. I wouldn't. I wouldn't because

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what I saw that day was inhuman, like I it's

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nothing that you that we was meant to see, you

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know what I mean? And it was there in front

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of me. And the fact that I've heard about him

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and everybody was like, oh, we can't get good sightings

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on him. We can like people go, don't get good

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pictures and stuff like that. And I'm three foot away

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from this thing. Everybody says it's not friendly if you

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make it mad that people can't put good pictures because

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they don't like people. And I'm standing in front of it.

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Wow, three feet is so close.

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Uh did you smell anything when you were in that area?

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I can't remember whether I smelled anything or not. I

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know that if I smelled anything, it was probably fear

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coming from myself. If I'm gonna be on it, like

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I felt like it grunting at me. I kind of

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felt like it was more of like a like a

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get out of here, like leave because he wasn't aggressively,

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so I feel like he was just being like, hey,

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don't get any closer type of grunt like okay, you

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found me, I'm here, now leave before this get works exactly.

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And I just like, I just remember this, like this

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thing was just I don't I don't know how to

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explain I don't. It doesn't, I don't know how to

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explain it.

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The grunt that it was making, is that sounds similar

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to anything else that you've ever heard?

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Yes, yes, it's kind of weird. Yes, it kind of

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whenever you listen to movies and you're looking at like

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a bull or something. It kind of sounded like whenever

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it's getting into charge and it.

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Grunts okay wow, like.

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Like you know that bigfoot, it's it's voice. It can

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make it ten times deeper than the bulls, because I mean,

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it's just it's big foot. I mean, come on, but

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I mean the way how how deep bulls voices are

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whenever they grunt. That's the deepness that it was. And

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I knew that he wasn't threatening me. He was just saying, okay,

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you call me, I'm here, but you need to go now.

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Do not get any closer.

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Okay. Have you been back to that area since then?

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Yes?

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Okay? And how long did it take for you to

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get back there.

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I didn't start going back there until this year.

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Yeah, a few There was a time with his girlfriend

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and me, and then we brought him back, and so

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it was probably probably three quarters of a year, maybe

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a year.

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And and Jack, you're also there correct during this time?

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Yes?

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Huh did you notice anything out of the ordinary from

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where you were at the area?

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And no, because I was he had went up another

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route more near the water, and I went up just

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this little path and when I got here, he was

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coming around here and he just was booking it to

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the car, just I mean screaming, and he was he

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was saying, I mean, it was a literal fear. And

463
00:26:10.240 --> 00:26:12.599
he was saying, it's a monster dead, it's a monster.

464
00:26:12.720 --> 00:26:14.880
Get out of here. Let's go. Let's go start that car,

465
00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:19.960
start that car. And he was like claw on the wall. Yeah.

466
00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:21.680
I didn't see it or anything.

467
00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:25.079
And the only reason why I mentioned earlier now, and

468
00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:28.480
it was because whenever I said that there's no place

469
00:26:28.519 --> 00:26:31.160
for it to go, is because I told my dad,

470
00:26:31.359 --> 00:26:35.640
like come here, like you know what I mean? Because

471
00:26:35.640 --> 00:26:38.160
he's asking what and I'm not going to explain nothing.

472
00:26:38.319 --> 00:26:40.839
Let me just show you. Let me just show you.

473
00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:44.359
It can't go nowhere because if it goes this way,

474
00:26:44.400 --> 00:26:46.119
it's going straight in the water. And I know that

475
00:26:46.160 --> 00:26:47.759
thing is not about to hold his breath all the

476
00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:52.160
way across the dam. It's it can't go straight that

477
00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:53.440
way because it's going to go up a hill on

478
00:26:53.480 --> 00:26:55.680
the see. It can't go over this way because that's

479
00:26:55.680 --> 00:26:57.359
an open field and it's not tall grass, and you

480
00:26:57.400 --> 00:26:59.799
can't come forward because it's pavement. And I can see him,

481
00:27:01.160 --> 00:27:03.559
yeah to him, come over there, and he's gone there.

482
00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:05.839
We can't find him. I didn't hear nothing either.

483
00:27:05.759 --> 00:27:08.839
And I've thought about this and I wondered, i wondered

484
00:27:08.839 --> 00:27:11.440
how that could happen. And I kind of get an idea.

485
00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:14.759
What if he went down all fours, you know, like

486
00:27:14.839 --> 00:27:17.359
they do that spider crawl thing. What if he Absolutely

487
00:27:18.119 --> 00:27:21.240
that's what I'm thinking. Because we didn't hang around there

488
00:27:21.319 --> 00:27:25.720
very long. Jason was very adamant that we needed to leave.

489
00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:30.640
Right Yeah, which makes sense absolutely, But yeah, I mean

490
00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:34.599
that's a solid, solid idea. And actually just talk to

491
00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:38.359
a gentleman who that's his things he's studying the whole

492
00:27:38.400 --> 00:27:39.759
spider crawl thing.

493
00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:43.279
So you you left pretty quickly.

494
00:27:43.319 --> 00:27:46.160
You did not stick around to look at the area

495
00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:52.160
where it had disappeared or it went somewhere else. Have

496
00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:55.960
there ever been any stories of people having some things

497
00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:57.720
in that same area as well.

498
00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:01.880
And not that we know of just the father in

499
00:28:01.920 --> 00:28:10.799
law thing, but there now I think, oh, somebody, bigfoot

500
00:28:10.880 --> 00:28:13.599
research or something like that, said that there were some

501
00:28:14.960 --> 00:28:17.160
I forgot who it was, said that there was some

502
00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:22.720
activity over in Tonka Wall along that river and everything,

503
00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:30.480
which is about what's about fifteen miles west of US Okay,

504
00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:36.359
And so there's there's activity along the rivers. But I

505
00:28:36.359 --> 00:28:40.880
think that they told my sister in law that they've

506
00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:44.640
had a call or two about whooping and stuff out

507
00:28:44.759 --> 00:28:50.920
in that area before. But as far as me personally, no,

508
00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:55.160
I you know, this is it started in twenty fifteen,

509
00:28:55.240 --> 00:28:58.640
and it's just kind of increased with me and him,

510
00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:02.960
you know, in the last couple of years, which it's fascinating,

511
00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:06.200
you know, some really interested in it now.

512
00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:10.119
It is a thing where with I would say, it's

513
00:29:10.160 --> 00:29:12.480
either going to freak you out and you'll never do

514
00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:15.599
anything else with it again, or you'll get really interested

515
00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:19.480
in it and you just really get into it. Jason,

516
00:29:19.480 --> 00:29:21.480
what would you say, how did how did it affect

517
00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:24.319
you after you had this sighting of something right in

518
00:29:24.359 --> 00:29:24.799
front of you.

519
00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:32.039
For a while, I didn't talk about it. I didn't

520
00:29:32.119 --> 00:29:34.119
talk about it. Didn't want to relive the moment in

521
00:29:34.160 --> 00:29:44.680
my head. Like we said to you, about three quarters

522
00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:46.359
of a year or a year to come for me

523
00:29:46.400 --> 00:29:53.519
to come back. And you know, I'm I'm eighteen now,

524
00:29:54.640 --> 00:30:00.160
so I think I've gained a little bit of a

525
00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:06.000
little bit of Okay, this was going back and dealing

526
00:30:06.039 --> 00:30:11.119
with whatever it was. I've kind of faced the fact

527
00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:19.039
that he's there, but I'm also there and whether he

528
00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:20.839
likes it or not, whether I like it or not,

529
00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:25.079
we're gonna be around each other m and I kind

530
00:30:25.079 --> 00:30:26.960
of gotta get used to the fact that that's that's

531
00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:32.759
gonna happen, and something might happen, and that is okay.

532
00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:35.480
I think that's that's a good way to look at it.

533
00:30:36.079 --> 00:30:40.519
Are you at this point ever actively trying to go

534
00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:43.599
into areas and see if you can figure stuff out

535
00:30:43.799 --> 00:30:45.880
or having other things happen.

536
00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:45.880
Or.

537
00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:53.960
Yes, actually I really want to go back where I

538
00:30:54.000 --> 00:30:59.480
saw him and go set up like a trail cam

539
00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:05.200
or something. Then and I'm gonna put some food or

540
00:31:05.240 --> 00:31:08.440
something out there and see if he if I one

541
00:31:08.519 --> 00:31:12.079
capture him or two not capture him like grabbing. I'm

542
00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:13.759
not gonna grab like capture him on camera. I'm not

543
00:31:13.799 --> 00:31:15.240
gonna I'm not gonna jump on his bag.

544
00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:18.240
Nope, No, I wouldn't recommend it.

545
00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:21.799
Uh, but once if I can capture him on camera

546
00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:23.759
or to see if he'll leave me like a rock

547
00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:26.559
or something like a gift or something back, you know,

548
00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:29.240
because if I can see, if I can see something

549
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:31.599
that he's given a gift back, I know the camera

550
00:31:31.640 --> 00:31:33.680
will at least pick it up the most intensing that

551
00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:37.880
he rolled something over there or something, you know, because

552
00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:40.119
I know he's smart. I know he's smart. Another person

553
00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:42.559
told me that, you know, he he lives in those woods,

554
00:31:42.599 --> 00:31:44.680
so he knows every tree. He's going to see, that tree,

555
00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:49.160
he's going to see that trail camp. He's not dumb, right,

556
00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:52.079
so he's not gonna want to be seen seen if

557
00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:53.119
he doesn't want to be So.

558
00:31:54.680 --> 00:31:57.480
Is that anything that you ever ever hear about in

559
00:31:57.519 --> 00:32:00.319
this area about people that say that they have uh

560
00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:03.599
you know, a family of bigfoot or a Bigfoot living

561
00:32:03.599 --> 00:32:07.319
on their property and leaving gifts. Is that ever anything

562
00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:09.359
that comes up, or it's just one of those things

563
00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:12.240
where people really don't talk about it.

564
00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:14.400
It's it's really one of those things that people don't

565
00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:17.039
really talk about it. I mean, I haven't heard many

566
00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:20.519
other people talk about bigfooting them seeing him. But I

567
00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:25.720
really guarantee with how many people that I've met while

568
00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:27.880
fishing and doing things, I say, hey, I've been out

569
00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:30.559
here seventy plus years fishing this water. I can sell

570
00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:32.920
you how to catch one of those big guard right now,

571
00:32:33.240 --> 00:32:36.759
I guarantee that dude also has seen Bigfoot. He just

572
00:32:36.759 --> 00:32:39.440
doesn't want to talk about it because, like my dad

573
00:32:39.480 --> 00:32:41.599
said about somebody that he knows, they're just going to

574
00:32:41.640 --> 00:32:45.759
think they're crazy. And you know, I understand that because

575
00:32:45.799 --> 00:32:47.880
I wouldn't want for someone to think I'm crazy. Whenever.

576
00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:50.759
This thing's terrifying and I'm trying to warn you that

577
00:32:50.839 --> 00:32:53.599
it's there, but you know, people just don't like to

578
00:32:53.640 --> 00:32:54.559
talk about stuff like that.

579
00:32:56.640 --> 00:32:59.960
Jason, I want to double check something about your incounter,

580
00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:03.960
just from the way I understood it. So you were

581
00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:05.599
not able to see the face?

582
00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:08.400
Correct, No, it was too it was too dark for

583
00:33:08.519 --> 00:33:14.119
that right, But I do know that if I did

584
00:33:14.200 --> 00:33:15.960
see its face, it probably would have been worse.

585
00:33:18.119 --> 00:33:20.319
Yeah, no, absolutely, I would be right there with you.

586
00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:24.039
Thinking back on your account, what would you say, is

587
00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:27.720
the one detail that you experienced where you're like, okay,

588
00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:31.000
one hundred percent, what is in front of me is

589
00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:33.480
absolutely a bigfoot because of this one thing.

590
00:33:33.839 --> 00:33:40.039
The grunt. Okay, the grunt, that's all it was. I

591
00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:41.880
and this, this is an opinion that I have, and

592
00:33:41.920 --> 00:33:44.160
I said this every time somebody talk to me about bigfoot.

593
00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:46.839
I personally think bigfoot is a type of a rangutang.

594
00:33:47.920 --> 00:33:50.319
I mean, if you've seen King Kong versus Godzilla, if

595
00:33:50.319 --> 00:33:53.079
you've seen Scarface, that rangutang, I mean, look at it,

596
00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:55.039
look at him, and then think about a big foot.

597
00:33:55.079 --> 00:33:57.119
He has long arms, long legs, He walks on his

598
00:33:57.200 --> 00:33:59.960
own legs, He gets down all fours, he can do things.

599
00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:02.640
A type of a rang tang. That's immediately what I

600
00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:04.519
go for. I mean, come on, now, a rank tang

601
00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:11.519
that can think that can do things. But I I

602
00:34:11.679 --> 00:34:17.119
just man, I don't even know how to.

603
00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:22.840
When I when I ask you to describe him, he couldn't.

604
00:34:23.079 --> 00:34:26.519
He wouldn't talk for a long time. And then sure

605
00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:30.360
we get talking and I said the setting heart did

606
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:34.159
he look like? And eventually I started thinking, well, maybe

607
00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:36.239
he'll look at pictures, so I said, did he look

608
00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:40.079
like this? And the closest thing that he said is

609
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:43.679
skarking off of the King Kong God's a little movie.

610
00:34:44.039 --> 00:34:47.400
He said, he looked reminded me of scarking because of

611
00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:48.920
the way was built and stead.

612
00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:51.199
Interesting.

613
00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:53.360
Yeah, I'll need to I'll need to look that up

614
00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:57.320
to refresh my memory about that. I also noticed by

615
00:34:57.320 --> 00:34:59.719
looking on the map that you guys are pretty close

616
00:34:59.800 --> 00:35:02.519
to an O Sage Reservation?

617
00:35:02.679 --> 00:35:03.159
Is that right?

618
00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:04.000
Yes?

619
00:35:05.400 --> 00:35:09.119
Have you ever heard any any related things happening over

620
00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:11.719
in that area regarding Bigfoot?

621
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:15.519
Yes? I have. I have a member of Native friends,

622
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:21.519
and they wholeheartedly, for the most part, you know, believe

623
00:35:21.559 --> 00:35:26.960
any in in everything. And you know some of them

624
00:35:26.960 --> 00:35:31.360
have said they've seen things and stuff like that, but

625
00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:36.400
they definitely it's Indian people have no problem you know,

626
00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:41.840
in saying they believe you exist on It makes the

627
00:35:41.880 --> 00:35:43.559
ones I know, mm.

628
00:35:43.480 --> 00:35:44.639
Hmmm, I agree with you.

629
00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:48.320
I talked to a lot of people down in southeast Oklahoma,

630
00:35:48.760 --> 00:35:51.639
like around uh well anywhere down there. Oh, I be

631
00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:55.360
all those places, and a lot of the accounts that

632
00:35:55.440 --> 00:35:59.480
I hear are like very aggressive. Have you found that

633
00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:02.480
that's the case for what you guys are hearing around

634
00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:05.199
this area or does it seem to be a whole

635
00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:07.039
different ballgame from what you're hearing.

636
00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:11.519
The ones that I've heard of and the ones that

637
00:36:11.559 --> 00:36:15.400
were with us, they weren't aggressive, but they were they

638
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:20.000
were very dominant, you know, like like we feel like that.

639
00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:22.840
When they showed their self to us, it was like,

640
00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:28.360
you know, now you see me. There's an encounter with

641
00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:32.199
his girlfriend and I where we came upon one and

642
00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:35.199
it was balled up like a little like a big rock,

643
00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:38.559
you know, it was weird.

644
00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:42.320
I could say mine is probably a little bit aggressive.

645
00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:45.199
Yours was a little gren was a little bit aggressive.

646
00:36:46.000 --> 00:36:46.239
Yeah.

647
00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:48.280
The other one I had was a little bit aggressive.

648
00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:50.480
But I do think they stand the potential will be

649
00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:52.119
pretty aggressive if you push you.

650
00:36:53.360 --> 00:36:53.760
Oh, they.

651
00:36:55.719 --> 00:36:56.440
They just want.

652
00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:03.679
So Jack, you were saying that you also, yeah, because

653
00:37:03.719 --> 00:37:06.320
I remember this in the in our correspondence too.

654
00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:07.480
So you and.

655
00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:15.079
Jason's former girlfriend then, uh huh, yeah, so you actually

656
00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:17.119
both had a sighting together.

657
00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:20.920
Jason wasn't with us, but we decided that we'd go

658
00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:24.559
riding around. So we went back out to the river.

659
00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:28.280
We were driving around, horsing around stuff, and I said, hey,

660
00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:31.840
let's go back where Jason saw that Bigfoot. And she

661
00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:36.800
is like on edge, you know. And we get down

662
00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:39.760
there and I'm horsing around trying to scare and I'm going,

663
00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:43.119
come on, Bigfoot, show yourself, show us, show us who

664
00:37:43.239 --> 00:37:46.679
you are. And Steph and we get down there and

665
00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:51.440
you go down this road down to the river, and

666
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:55.800
there's a parking lot there. And to go down this road,

667
00:37:55.840 --> 00:38:00.199
you make a left into that parking lot. Okay, along

668
00:38:00.320 --> 00:38:04.480
this road right here, right, here's the river. Right, here's

669
00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:07.760
the river, and here's the road that comes down and

670
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:10.639
makes the right to the parking lot. Right here is

671
00:38:10.679 --> 00:38:14.360
a guard rail that stands probably about four foot tall

672
00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:18.760
and somewhere in there, and there's a slope on the

673
00:38:18.800 --> 00:38:23.239
other side of that guard rail just filled with rocks, rocks,

674
00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:26.559
And so anyway, I'm mouthing the big Foot and I'm

675
00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:28.960
going down there, you know. And we get down there,

676
00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:31.679
we make a right. We're not even looking to our left.

677
00:38:31.679 --> 00:38:34.320
We make a right into that parking lot. We decided

678
00:38:34.360 --> 00:38:37.239
to turn around. She's going, Dad, this is a pretty

679
00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:40.199
sketchy road, and I said, oh, it's fine, it's just

680
00:38:40.239 --> 00:38:44.039
an old fishing road. So we make a right turn,

681
00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:46.920
our car to the left, and then on our right

682
00:38:47.119 --> 00:38:51.320
is that guardrail. And I said what is that? And

683
00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:53.159
she looked at it and she said, what is that?

684
00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:53.559
Dad?

685
00:38:54.280 --> 00:38:58.159
And I said, I have no idea, but that's huge.

686
00:38:58.760 --> 00:39:02.039
And I, for some reason I said, is that a wolf?

687
00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:05.880
You know? And she goes, is it a wolf? I

688
00:39:05.920 --> 00:39:08.719
don't that's huge, and I said, I don't know. I thought, well,

689
00:39:08.760 --> 00:39:13.079
maybe it's two wolves. And I thought wolves. We don't

690
00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:16.320
have wolves around here, you know. And this thing was

691
00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:20.639
it was taller than the guardrails, probably eight to ten

692
00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:23.960
inches taller than the guardrails. Well, I slowed the car

693
00:39:24.079 --> 00:39:27.679
down purposely. Now I've went back out there and purposely

694
00:39:27.360 --> 00:39:31.079
redone that so I could see and tell you about

695
00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:33.800
how slow we were going. We were going about two

696
00:39:33.840 --> 00:39:36.599
to three miles an hour. And the reason we were

697
00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:39.599
doing that is because it was being very, very steel,

698
00:39:39.800 --> 00:39:43.800
and it was crouched down and it had its it

699
00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:48.840
had its arms on its thighs, and it had its

700
00:39:48.880 --> 00:39:51.159
head buried, and it looked like it was trying to

701
00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:54.480
make a little rock out of itself, but it, you know,

702
00:39:54.599 --> 00:39:58.360
the thing was huge. But so I slowed down and

703
00:39:58.440 --> 00:40:02.000
my camera was right there. I thought, lowered my camera

704
00:40:02.719 --> 00:40:06.000
and didn't think a thing about it. But I was

705
00:40:06.039 --> 00:40:08.679
trying to capture everything I could with my eyes because

706
00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:12.239
I can remember things really well. And I looked at

707
00:40:12.239 --> 00:40:15.800
that thing and I thought, sham nitly, that thing is

708
00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:19.079
a monster. I could see its hands, I could see

709
00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:25.159
its shoulders and back, and its back was probably I

710
00:40:25.239 --> 00:40:28.639
figured it probably about four foot across on the back,

711
00:40:29.639 --> 00:40:32.920
and if it would have stood up, it would have

712
00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:36.800
probably stood eight foot tall, eight to nine foot tall.

713
00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:39.880
And the thing I couldn't see its face, but I

714
00:40:39.920 --> 00:40:45.360
could see its arms, its hands, its feet, and it

715
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:47.760
looked like if you could take a gorilla and the

716
00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:52.039
Incredible Hulk and a man and just mix it, because

717
00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:58.000
it had gigantic hands. But they had fingers like human fingers,

718
00:40:59.119 --> 00:41:02.039
which was interesting. And they were huge. I mean, those

719
00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:05.039
fingers were probably three of mine, two to three of

720
00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:10.119
my fingers. And its hands were bigger then it's it

721
00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:13.239
should have been in proportion to its body. Its feet

722
00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:17.239
were huge and had like human type feet. It was.

723
00:41:18.039 --> 00:41:21.679
It had hair that was on its sides and on

724
00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:25.480
its arms, and then on the back it had more

725
00:41:25.679 --> 00:41:30.639
slicked down hair like a gorilla or a dog, and

726
00:41:31.840 --> 00:41:34.280
it was kind of a black. It was black and

727
00:41:34.840 --> 00:41:38.840
grayish with some omber in their armber color in there,

728
00:41:39.599 --> 00:41:43.079
and it looked like that they had took two bowling balls,

729
00:41:43.159 --> 00:41:46.320
literally bowling balls, and just stuck it where the shoulders

730
00:41:46.360 --> 00:41:51.239
would be. Didn't have a neck. It had a comb

731
00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:55.760
type head like a gorilla, and it was just being

732
00:41:56.039 --> 00:41:59.880
super super like you don't see me, you know type thing.

733
00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:04.280
But I remember, and Pierce was just like on edge,

734
00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:08.280
you know, and she was looking at it. And second

735
00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:10.519
we get out of there, we make that turn and

736
00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:12.679
we look up at the road and we're going back,

737
00:42:12.719 --> 00:42:16.519
and then we look back and it's gone. It is gone.

738
00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:20.480
But that thing was monstrous. And we get on the phone.

739
00:42:20.679 --> 00:42:23.920
She's calling mom. She's going Mom, we saw a bigfoot.

740
00:42:24.559 --> 00:42:29.960
She's screaming and stuff. But it was It was cool,

741
00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:32.440
And I mean, I wasn't scared. I don't, you know,

742
00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:34.920
the thing if it decided to flip the car, it

743
00:42:34.960 --> 00:42:38.079
could have flipped the car easy, but for some reason,

744
00:42:38.119 --> 00:42:40.360
I wasn't scared. And I think it was because it

745
00:42:40.400 --> 00:42:46.719
was being secretive and as long as it's not trying

746
00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:49.039
to be aggressive. That means it's not going to hurt me.

747
00:42:49.880 --> 00:42:53.800
And I'm in a car, you know, and so we

748
00:42:53.960 --> 00:42:57.199
just kind of inch by it, real, real calm and peaceful,

749
00:42:57.400 --> 00:42:59.360
kind of like we don't see it, but we're looking

750
00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:03.360
at it, taking everything we can take in, you know.

751
00:43:04.280 --> 00:43:07.199
And that was what we saw that night.

752
00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:10.079
Wow. What was the year on that again?

753
00:43:10.719 --> 00:43:15.719
That would have been twenty twenty four, twenty five, See,

754
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:21.119
this is maybe twenty five, maybe first part of twenty five. Yeah,

755
00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:22.760
it'd been first part twenty five.

756
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:28.360
Okay, And you said this is a pretty close similar

757
00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:31.360
area where Jason had his sighting too.

758
00:43:32.039 --> 00:43:33.519
It was the exact same area.

759
00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:38.920
Yeah, how far away would you say it was?

760
00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:40.639
It was? It was the same parking lot, just on

761
00:43:40.679 --> 00:43:41.239
the other side.

762
00:43:41.360 --> 00:43:45.719
Yeah, just don't like God, this parking lot.

763
00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:48.599
So you probably have it literally, you probably have about

764
00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:51.440
fifty feet worth of distance right there.

765
00:43:51.639 --> 00:43:52.000
Yeah.

766
00:43:53.239 --> 00:43:56.400
Uh, what color was was it again? Jack?

767
00:43:57.559 --> 00:44:02.320
He looked black with gray ani and he had some

768
00:44:02.440 --> 00:44:03.800
amber looking hair and.

769
00:44:03.920 --> 00:44:10.360
Okay, so very interesting, so different color than what Jason saw.

770
00:44:11.000 --> 00:44:14.199
Yeah yeah wow.

771
00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:17.800
So I mean then that makes you ask a few questions?

772
00:44:17.880 --> 00:44:21.039
Are there more than one? There are there different colors.

773
00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:25.320
Do their colors changed throughout the year. Yeah, just a

774
00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:28.480
lot of questions we don't have answers for. Have you

775
00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:30.400
been back to that area since then?

776
00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:36.239
We had one more encounter there. Yeah, we had one,

777
00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:42.480
you know, we because that's our favorite fishing place. But

778
00:44:42.840 --> 00:44:45.559
you're not going to give it if you go down, man,

779
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:49.480
there's the first there's the first parking lot, and then

780
00:44:49.519 --> 00:44:52.320
you can go on down the river to the second

781
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:56.199
parking lot, and then there is a sand bar out

782
00:44:56.239 --> 00:44:59.679
there and behind I'm on the back of that sandbar,

783
00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:04.880
about eighty feet is the trees begin and the rivers

784
00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:09.000
out in front of you. And so this would be

785
00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:15.159
probably maybe two hundred yards from the first place. So

786
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:17.920
you go there's the first park lot, and go to

787
00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:20.440
the second parking lot and go down on the sandbar

788
00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:24.800
and go down probably one hundred or two feet onto

789
00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:31.639
the sandbar. And anyway, yeah, we had that was our

790
00:45:31.679 --> 00:45:36.599
final and probably the wildest of them. We went out

791
00:45:36.639 --> 00:45:39.920
there and we were fishing late man, and it was

792
00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:45.679
me and his girlfriend and Jason. We were fishing late

793
00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:48.719
and Jason does these things where he didn't like to

794
00:45:48.760 --> 00:45:52.000
carry any equipment. So me and her get to be

795
00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:57.079
the pack mules, you know. And so we're down there fishing,

796
00:45:57.239 --> 00:46:00.400
and we fished for hours, and we are catching big

797
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:04.760
catfish and we're just cutting the heads off and flaying

798
00:46:04.760 --> 00:46:07.039
them there and putting them in an ice chest and stuff,

799
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:11.559
and we're throwing the guts and stuff at the edge

800
00:46:11.599 --> 00:46:13.760
of the water because the birds will come and eat them,

801
00:46:13.800 --> 00:46:19.480
and scavengers will come. And so anyway, it is like

802
00:46:20.320 --> 00:46:22.679
probably two o'clock in the morning, because I remember it

803
00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:25.039
being around two o'clock. And I said, man, we've got

804
00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:28.719
to go, guys, And so Jason says, oh, I don't

805
00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:31.039
want to go. I said, come on, said, he said,

806
00:46:31.280 --> 00:46:33.800
go ahead and start and I'll and I'll be there

807
00:46:33.800 --> 00:46:35.840
in a minute. And I thought, yeah, when we get

808
00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:40.039
everything carried out there, and so you know, I start

809
00:46:40.119 --> 00:46:42.800
taking the first load up there. Well, when you're going,

810
00:46:43.679 --> 00:46:47.679
when you're going back toward the car on your right

811
00:46:47.719 --> 00:46:52.559
hand side, now is all this bush. And I start

812
00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:57.239
hearing this crunching in the bush. Well, I know what

813
00:46:57.400 --> 00:47:01.079
it is, you know, by this time, and I can

814
00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:03.880
hear him and I'd take a step and he'd take

815
00:47:03.880 --> 00:47:05.800
a step, and I'd take a step and he'd take

816
00:47:05.800 --> 00:47:09.559
a step and I'm just I just keep on going

817
00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:12.519
because I'm thinking, I don't want to find out if

818
00:47:12.519 --> 00:47:15.800
you'll hurt me or anything. So he's not doing anything

819
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:20.239
right now except pacing me, and so he's keeping pace

820
00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:28.119
with me, and I could hear him grunting like like

821
00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:32.199
like that, and I just go on up and I'm thinking,

822
00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:36.280
come on, guys, let's go. Well, I see Piers and

823
00:47:36.440 --> 00:47:40.159
she's got the flashlight and she's coming up the same

824
00:47:40.199 --> 00:47:44.280
way I did. Well. When I get up there, I said,

825
00:47:44.320 --> 00:47:48.159
is he coming and she said I don't know, said

826
00:47:48.280 --> 00:47:50.039
i'll go down and get him. And I said, well,

827
00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:52.519
i'll go, and says, no, you stay year, I'll go

828
00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:54.880
get him. So she takes a flashlight and goes down

829
00:47:55.400 --> 00:47:58.320
and gets him. And I'll let Jason tell about what

830
00:47:58.400 --> 00:47:58.960
was going on.

831
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:02.880
So whenever she came down there to get me, she

832
00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:06.800
she kind of just found me just like dying. Basically,

833
00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:09.239
I felt like I was dying. So I will I

834
00:48:09.280 --> 00:48:14.239
will recap on that. So whenever he had first gone

835
00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:19.400
up there, like he said, my former girlfriend had went

836
00:48:19.480 --> 00:48:21.400
up there too to take up another load. She had

837
00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:23.519
took the flashlight with her. So I was down there,

838
00:48:23.559 --> 00:48:27.480
no flashlight, no nothing, I was literally relying on the

839
00:48:27.519 --> 00:48:31.199
moon to light everything up so I could see, and

840
00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:32.840
I could see a little bit in some places. In

841
00:48:33.159 --> 00:48:35.719
some places where too dark or I couldn't see. So

842
00:48:36.159 --> 00:48:40.239
I remember I was this time, I was genuinely gonna

843
00:48:40.239 --> 00:48:42.000
grab some of my stuff and take it up there

844
00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:46.280
and help. But then I remember, I just I started

845
00:48:46.280 --> 00:48:50.280
feeling really sick out of nowhere. I started feeling really

846
00:48:50.320 --> 00:48:55.360
really sick, very weak to the very weak, six dumbay, hurt, headache,

847
00:48:55.599 --> 00:48:59.039
like dizzy, nauseous, everything like all under the sun. I

848
00:48:59.079 --> 00:49:02.960
just felt I felt like I was dying. I was

849
00:49:03.000 --> 00:49:05.960
having a heart attack with stroke something. I was dying.

850
00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:12.320
And I remember just saying, you know, I'm outside. It's

851
00:49:12.440 --> 00:49:16.039
two o'clock in the morning. It's cold. If I just

852
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:17.840
take my shirt off or something, or I do something,

853
00:49:17.920 --> 00:49:19.800
I just lay I just lay down on my back.

854
00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:23.239
I'll feel better. It it's cold. So I remember laying

855
00:49:23.280 --> 00:49:24.960
down on my back on the sand. I have a

856
00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:26.840
hat on. So I'm sitting here laying down like this,

857
00:49:27.719 --> 00:49:31.760
and I remember I remember just something I don't know.

858
00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:33.519
I don't know what it was, but something just told

859
00:49:33.559 --> 00:49:34.960
me to look up, and I'm like I said, I'm

860
00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:37.000
like my back. So I look up like this, so

861
00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:40.599
I'm like looking behind me, and I remember just seeing

862
00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:44.280
something just just tall, dude. I mean this is we

863
00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:44.840
measured it.

864
00:49:44.760 --> 00:49:47.159
It was about it would have been about eight foot,

865
00:49:47.519 --> 00:49:49.400
about eight and a half foot.

866
00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:52.039
Eight and a half foot. And how far away was it?

867
00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:56.599
It was eighty eighty one hundred foot away. It was

868
00:49:56.599 --> 00:50:00.880
just sitting there, standing there, staring at me. I look

869
00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:05.039
up and it was staring at me. And so I

870
00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:09.119
remember in my head immediately thinking I'm I'm gonna die

871
00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:12.559
either way right now, like either this thing is gonna

872
00:50:12.599 --> 00:50:18.320
come get me or I'm gonna die to whatever's going

873
00:50:18.360 --> 00:50:23.400
on with my body right now. And so I remember

874
00:50:23.760 --> 00:50:27.960
immediately I don't I got a little bit of adrenalin

875
00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:29.559
into my body. I didn't get much. I got a

876
00:50:29.599 --> 00:50:32.000
little bit, and I managed to get myself up and

877
00:50:32.039 --> 00:50:34.159
grab what was left. I mean there was a cooler

878
00:50:34.360 --> 00:50:36.559
and a chair and cold fishion polks. I managed to

879
00:50:36.599 --> 00:50:39.159
like bear hug and grab it, and I moved like

880
00:50:39.199 --> 00:50:42.440
two feet and like collapsed and fail. Like I mean,

881
00:50:42.519 --> 00:50:43.719
like I felt like I was dying. I don't know

882
00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:45.639
what was going on. I was perfectly fine the whole night.

883
00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:50.400
I felt like I was dying. I remember. I remember

884
00:50:50.559 --> 00:50:52.840
after that, whenever I saw a Pierce coming back now

885
00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:55.039
with the flashlight. I remember, I remember looking back over

886
00:50:55.079 --> 00:50:57.519
there and glancing and nothing was there, like it was gone.

887
00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:01.480
But then whenever she was like what's going on? Like

888
00:51:01.519 --> 00:51:04.159
why are you sent down? Like you're you good or uk?

889
00:51:04.360 --> 00:51:06.000
And I was like, yeah, we can talk about it

890
00:51:06.079 --> 00:51:11.679
up here in a minute. So I remember walking up there,

891
00:51:11.679 --> 00:51:14.320
and I was sitting there and I was thinking at

892
00:51:14.400 --> 00:51:16.559
like aftermath. I was sitting there thinking, and I was like,

893
00:51:18.280 --> 00:51:21.320
it doesn't make sense to me why he would just

894
00:51:21.400 --> 00:51:24.480
stand there and stare. Doesn't it make sense to me

895
00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:27.519
on why he would willingly open himself up in the

896
00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:31.719
moonlight where I can see and openly stand there and stare.

897
00:51:34.400 --> 00:51:36.079
And I sat there and thought about it, and it

898
00:51:36.199 --> 00:51:42.119
was I cut up fish heads and gutted fish and

899
00:51:42.119 --> 00:51:44.360
filed them and threw them out in the water, like

900
00:51:44.440 --> 00:51:46.039
right there on the bank where you could where the

901
00:51:46.039 --> 00:51:48.360
birds and stuff can still get it. And I was

902
00:51:48.440 --> 00:51:54.079
laying down and Pierced took the flashlight well, like he said,

903
00:51:54.320 --> 00:51:57.880
he was pacing him walking him up to the car.

904
00:51:59.840 --> 00:52:01.840
And so when he was facing him walking in up

905
00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:07.719
to the car. Then he came down there to see

906
00:52:08.079 --> 00:52:10.039
who was down there, because they saw him go up

907
00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:11.599
to the car and he saw Pierce go up to

908
00:52:11.639 --> 00:52:13.000
the car with a flashlight.

909
00:52:13.239 --> 00:52:16.079
And Pierce said that she heard pacing to you. Yeah.

910
00:52:16.119 --> 00:52:20.519
Pierce said that she was walking and she faked a step,

911
00:52:20.760 --> 00:52:22.719
and he stepped whenever she did it.

912
00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:25.159
And that's what really got her nervous.

913
00:52:25.159 --> 00:52:27.360
And that's what really got her nervous. So the thing

914
00:52:27.639 --> 00:52:31.079
was is what he was doing was he walked him

915
00:52:31.159 --> 00:52:35.039
up to the car and then walked her up to

916
00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:39.519
the car whenever she walked up there, and then came

917
00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:42.760
back down there and waited for me. Wow. So what

918
00:52:42.800 --> 00:52:45.320
I'm thinking in my head was was either one or

919
00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:47.679
two things. Either he was just trying to see where

920
00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:51.159
everybody was at and what they were doing. Or he

921
00:52:51.360 --> 00:52:55.559
was like, Okay, you just filaid up some fish over there,

922
00:52:55.960 --> 00:52:58.519
you left some guts and heads and stuff. I'm hungry.

923
00:52:59.159 --> 00:53:01.920
They're leaving. I'm gonna walk you up here now so

924
00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:07.480
you can leave. So I remember getting told something about

925
00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:13.039
what is it called sound infrasound or whatever, and so

926
00:53:13.119 --> 00:53:14.719
I was sitting there and I was sitting there thinking

927
00:53:14.760 --> 00:53:17.719
about it, and they told me that bigfoots can do that,

928
00:53:18.840 --> 00:53:22.119
and they can make me feel sick, they can make

929
00:53:22.159 --> 00:53:27.599
me feel worried, scared, all the above, And so I'm

930
00:53:27.639 --> 00:53:31.679
just confused as of why now, of everybody else there,

931
00:53:31.719 --> 00:53:36.760
he singled me out, and I'm feeling the only reason

932
00:53:36.800 --> 00:53:39.800
why he also showed himself like that was because I

933
00:53:39.840 --> 00:53:42.480
also don't think he knew I was there, because, like

934
00:53:42.519 --> 00:53:44.920
I said, she had taken the flashlight and I was

935
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:46.800
laying down and I was wearing dark clothes. I wear

936
00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:49.239
dark clothes whenever I fished, and I was wearing dark

937
00:53:49.280 --> 00:53:51.480
clothes and I was laying down, So I think he

938
00:53:51.519 --> 00:53:53.480
didn't see men till I started looking, until I looked

939
00:53:53.559 --> 00:53:56.719
up and moved, and then all that happened. Maybe I

940
00:53:56.800 --> 00:53:58.639
might have startled him a little bit and then he

941
00:53:58.760 --> 00:54:01.039
was like, you gotta go now or something, and that's

942
00:54:01.039 --> 00:54:02.920
why he made me feel like that, But it was

943
00:54:03.000 --> 00:54:08.400
just the level of I was more scared of that

944
00:54:08.440 --> 00:54:11.920
situation in my head. I didn't put it off that

945
00:54:11.960 --> 00:54:15.400
way because if I really needed to have time that

946
00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:17.360
I can try to run, I'm not gonna get much.

947
00:54:17.360 --> 00:54:18.639
I'm not gonna get very far, but at least I

948
00:54:18.639 --> 00:54:22.039
got a little bit of a historic right. But I

949
00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:23.840
was more scared of that situation than I was the

950
00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:25.800
other one, because this dude, it made me feel like

951
00:54:25.800 --> 00:54:31.440
I was dying and I couldn't move, and it was

952
00:54:31.639 --> 00:54:34.760
like aggressive, like an aggressive he was just staring at me.

953
00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:42.360
How long did it take for that feeling to leave

954
00:54:42.679 --> 00:54:43.039
from you?

955
00:54:43.719 --> 00:54:47.320
Oh? It took. It took about fifteen to twenty minutes

956
00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:48.599
after we left.

957
00:54:48.880 --> 00:54:54.760
Okay, when he started off, he started immediately feeling better then,

958
00:54:56.000 --> 00:54:57.559
which was interesting.

959
00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:03.880
Yeah, which which makes total sense based off off of

960
00:55:04.199 --> 00:55:09.519
other reports that I get. So this one was really

961
00:55:09.679 --> 00:55:10.320
recent then?

962
00:55:11.400 --> 00:55:15.519
Yeah, this was probably a couple of months ago. No,

963
00:55:15.840 --> 00:55:19.800
this had been let's see, this is November. Yeah, yeah,

964
00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:23.440
this was probably June July.

965
00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:28.920
Man, incredible still your fishing spot though.

966
00:55:29.239 --> 00:55:35.920
Oh yeah, pictures of eight nine ten pound catfish, three

967
00:55:35.960 --> 00:55:38.239
pound carp I'm gonna say, some big fish man.

968
00:55:38.639 --> 00:55:41.480
Yeah. And you know, I think that if he was

969
00:55:41.519 --> 00:55:44.920
gonna hurt us any of those times he could have,

970
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:48.880
he could have killed us and nobody would have known it,

971
00:55:49.840 --> 00:55:50.119
you know.

972
00:55:50.199 --> 00:55:53.000
Yeah, it would have been game over for sure. I

973
00:55:53.440 --> 00:55:54.079
think that.

974
00:55:55.599 --> 00:55:58.639
I'm on the same page with you where you guys

975
00:55:58.679 --> 00:56:00.400
are putting tons of food out there and you're not

976
00:56:00.480 --> 00:56:01.480
leaving fast enough.

977
00:56:01.599 --> 00:56:01.840
You know.

978
00:56:01.920 --> 00:56:03.719
It's like, you know, I'm here.

979
00:56:04.480 --> 00:56:07.280
I'm just kind of I'm just kind of scared for,

980
00:56:08.039 --> 00:56:11.760
you know, for people to really get to get real,

981
00:56:11.960 --> 00:56:15.800
real close with him. So I mean, like, like he said,

982
00:56:15.840 --> 00:56:17.639
he could have killed us and nobody would have known.

983
00:56:17.679 --> 00:56:22.320
I mean, if someone can get real close with this thing, it'd.

984
00:56:22.159 --> 00:56:24.440
Be bad, right right.

985
00:56:24.480 --> 00:56:27.280
And this is a public area, public fishing spot, so

986
00:56:27.320 --> 00:56:30.519
there could be all sorts of people there at different.

987
00:56:30.239 --> 00:56:33.079
Times, children and anything, And like, I know the fact

988
00:56:33.119 --> 00:56:36.599
that dude, I know that, I know that Bigfoot could

989
00:56:36.599 --> 00:56:38.599
pick up a car and throw that thing in the

990
00:56:38.639 --> 00:56:40.840
water and make it look like nobody was ever there.

991
00:56:41.000 --> 00:56:43.320
And I know he's smart, so I know he will.

992
00:56:44.360 --> 00:56:46.159
And kids and stuff are out there all the time.

993
00:56:46.239 --> 00:56:49.000
Dogs and stuff are out there all the time. So

994
00:56:49.119 --> 00:56:50.719
it's and I.

995
00:56:50.639 --> 00:56:53.880
Think that I think he may show up like super

996
00:56:53.960 --> 00:56:57.320
late at night, because these encounters we've had been like

997
00:56:57.440 --> 00:57:00.960
one mainly one or two in the morning. We're hard

998
00:57:01.480 --> 00:57:04.440
anybody usually we're the only ones out there around that time.

999
00:57:05.239 --> 00:57:08.800
And I'm just wondering if maybe he goes any scavenges

1000
00:57:08.840 --> 00:57:12.760
and knows that people aren't there, you know, and that's

1001
00:57:13.280 --> 00:57:17.079
maybe he's not really wanting to be seen and stuff.

1002
00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:18.519
I don't know.

1003
00:57:18.719 --> 00:57:25.480
Yeah, the things you're hearing at the police station, Jack

1004
00:57:25.519 --> 00:57:29.159
where it's from other individuals, you know, we're not going

1005
00:57:29.239 --> 00:57:33.639
to name. Are they having their their encounters late at

1006
00:57:33.719 --> 00:57:36.199
night too, or is it all all throughout the day.

1007
00:57:36.280 --> 00:57:40.960
Pretty much, No, they're heaving late at night. And like

1008
00:57:41.039 --> 00:57:44.760
the people I know, they'll go, you know, they'll be

1009
00:57:44.840 --> 00:57:48.199
on patrol or something. Like one of them was before

1010
00:57:48.239 --> 00:57:50.480
we got him down here. He was with some other

1011
00:57:50.519 --> 00:57:54.400
people and he drove over a bridge and he looked

1012
00:57:54.440 --> 00:57:57.320
over and he saw it, you know, out there at

1013
00:57:57.360 --> 00:58:00.760
the edge of the water, and he wouldn't talk about it.

1014
00:58:01.960 --> 00:58:06.360
There was one pretty close to in town where something

1015
00:58:06.480 --> 00:58:09.320
was looking over a wall and that wall was about

1016
00:58:09.400 --> 00:58:13.360
seven foot tall, but it was looking over the wall.

1017
00:58:14.559 --> 00:58:18.679
And you know, they don't seem to come in town

1018
00:58:18.760 --> 00:58:22.440
and bother people or anything like that. They're not as

1019
00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:24.360
far as I know. They're not looking into windows and

1020
00:58:25.280 --> 00:58:28.960
stuff like that. They're pretty much staying away from people

1021
00:58:29.000 --> 00:58:29.960
as much as they can.

1022
00:58:30.960 --> 00:58:36.880
It seems like, yeah, we know, do we know is

1023
00:58:36.960 --> 00:58:38.239
Bigfoot nocturnal?

1024
00:58:40.880 --> 00:58:44.960
Well, I mean there are a lot of activity or

1025
00:58:45.360 --> 00:58:48.519
interactions that happen at night, but I mean they can

1026
00:58:48.599 --> 00:58:52.159
be seen all throughout all through the day. I've had

1027
00:58:52.199 --> 00:58:55.480
reports where, you know, everything from early morning to mid afternoon,

1028
00:58:55.559 --> 00:58:58.039
but a lot of stuff is at night though.

1029
00:58:58.519 --> 00:58:58.719
Yeah.

1030
00:58:58.800 --> 00:59:01.079
So I was sitting there thinking, I wonder if he's like,

1031
00:59:02.440 --> 00:59:06.960
if he like is a type of I'm a high

1032
00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:09.079
extplining he's like nocturnal, but at the same time, he

1033
00:59:09.159 --> 00:59:13.239
like doesn't just stay in one place all day during

1034
00:59:13.280 --> 00:59:14.039
the morning.

1035
00:59:14.639 --> 00:59:19.719
Right, Yeah, It's it's interesting to think about. Well, guys,

1036
00:59:19.760 --> 00:59:23.199
this is this is such an interesting group of encounters

1037
00:59:23.199 --> 00:59:26.400
because it's not one where it's like this happened twenty

1038
00:59:26.480 --> 00:59:29.440
years ago, like this happened a few months ago, and

1039
00:59:29.480 --> 00:59:33.000
will probably continue to happen because at the end of

1040
00:59:33.039 --> 00:59:35.159
the day, it's your fishing spot.

1041
00:59:35.320 --> 00:59:37.920
Yeah, visions love it and you're gonna keep going.

1042
00:59:40.400 --> 00:59:40.679
Yeah.

1043
00:59:41.440 --> 00:59:44.639
So, I mean I would love to to hear if

1044
00:59:44.679 --> 00:59:47.679
things continue to happen. Uh, you know, please let us

1045
00:59:47.719 --> 00:59:51.400
know if you'd be willing to share things continue to happen.

1046
00:59:51.840 --> 00:59:54.960
I think that honestly, I'm gonna go and buy a

1047
00:59:55.039 --> 00:59:59.440
go Bro and where whenever I go fishing.

1048
00:59:59.719 --> 01:00:01.480
He's gonna capture I'm.

1049
01:00:01.320 --> 01:00:04.199
Telling you it's gonna happen. I'm gonna capture him on

1050
01:00:04.400 --> 01:00:06.880
camera or I'm gonna capture by tackling him, and I

1051
01:00:06.880 --> 01:00:08.400
don't care. Either way, it's gonna happen.

1052
01:00:09.719 --> 01:00:12.039
Oh, Jason, I might recommend the go bro.

1053
01:00:13.480 --> 01:00:16.920
Okay, yeah, Well the go pro don't work. We're gonna

1054
01:00:16.920 --> 01:00:20.679
try those little ball things that you throw and they

1055
01:00:20.679 --> 01:00:21.679
wrap around people's ankles.

1056
01:00:22.280 --> 01:00:29.000
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, use those.

1057
01:00:29.079 --> 01:00:31.559
Yeah. I don't know about the go pro, but the

1058
01:00:31.639 --> 01:00:33.639
last time you had a NAT it was a less

1059
01:00:33.679 --> 01:00:38.559
go nice one.

1060
01:00:39.079 --> 01:00:40.719
Good work, good work, guys.

1061
01:00:40.800 --> 01:00:44.480
I appreciate you. I appreciate you hanging out with me today.

1062
01:00:44.599 --> 01:00:45.440
Were you were you.

1063
01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:48.559
Able to share everything that you'd want to share on

1064
01:00:48.599 --> 01:00:49.280
the show today?

1065
01:00:50.719 --> 01:00:53.800
Yeah? Yeah, thanks so right.

1066
01:00:53.880 --> 01:00:57.400
Well, I appreciate you being able to to come forward

1067
01:00:57.440 --> 01:01:02.559
to share not just audio but also yourselves on camera,

1068
01:01:02.639 --> 01:01:06.760
which is a really big step for for someone to

1069
01:01:06.800 --> 01:01:09.760
be able to do that. And we'll definitely keep in

1070
01:01:09.800 --> 01:01:13.800
touch if things continue to happen. But thank you so

1071
01:01:13.880 --> 01:01:15.559
much for coming on the show today.

1072
01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:18.320
You Betton, thank you for letting this tell our stories.

1073
01:01:20.159 --> 01:01:22.440
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

1074
01:01:22.519 --> 01:01:25.719
directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

1075
01:01:25.719 --> 01:01:29.480
in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've

1076
01:01:29.519 --> 01:01:32.360
seen something that no one can explain, or if you're

1077
01:01:32.400 --> 01:01:35.679
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1078
01:01:35.679 --> 01:01:38.679
to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen

1079
01:01:38.760 --> 01:01:42.000
something strange down on the ground, or if you're with

1080
01:01:42.039 --> 01:01:45.599
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1081
01:01:45.719 --> 01:01:48.840
stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And

1082
01:01:48.880 --> 01:01:52.239
if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder

1083
01:01:52.360 --> 01:01:55.599
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1084
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If you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field,

1085
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or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something

1086
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happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're

1087
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1088
01:02:10.559 --> 01:02:13.920
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1089
01:02:14.440 --> 01:02:16.920
If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

1090
01:02:16.960 --> 01:02:20.440
spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,

1091
01:02:21.119 --> 01:02:24.239
or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA, or

1092
01:02:24.280 --> 01:02:27.639
anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

1093
01:02:29.000 --> 01:02:32.480
then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous,

1094
01:02:34.239 --> 01:02:37.760
you can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

1095
01:02:38.199 --> 01:02:40.639
The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

1096
01:02:40.679 --> 01:02:46.599
carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story,

1097
01:02:47.000 --> 01:02:50.840
We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank

1098
01:02:50.840 --> 01:02:53.719
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1099
01:02:53.800 --> 01:02:56.199
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1100
01:02:56.239 --> 01:02:59.360
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