Bigfoot Stalks Fishermen Near Ponca City — ‘Something Forced Us To Leave’

0:00 You're listening to BIGFA Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the. Voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us, all. Right, pick for Society, Welcome back for another episode. I've got the privilege of having Jack and Jason with me today, father and son from Oklahoma. They've got some really interesting things that have happened over the years down there that they've experienced.

0:47 But welcome to the show. Guys. How's it going going great? It's going real good. How are you doing good? We're starting to get into these video interviews and a little bit different than talking to people on the phone, but I like it, so I am happy and thankful that you guys are willing to do this. But yeah, let's take it back to maybe the first thing chronologically that was experienced. That might be a good place to start there, if that's all right. Okay, it all started, let's see. It all started back in September twenty eight of twenty fifteen. My mother in law was dying and we live in Ponca City, Oklahoma, and so she and father in law live about ten miles east of Ponca City, and it's near the river out there. So we got there probably about eleven thirty twelve o'clock at night, and the family had just started gathering and we went in to pay our final respects.

1:56 But my wife, Becky and I got out of the car across the highway Highway sixty. Across Highway sixty there is a creek called Charlie Creek, and in that field out there are cattle and everything. Well, it was like twelve thirty one o'clock in the morning, and those cows were going nuts. Man, they were going crazy. They were bellowing and whining, and I thought, man, that is just that's weird. And then the coyotes were just going berserk out there. And so we go in, we pay our respects to our mother in law and her mom and then we all gather out out on the porch to talk while we're waiting for the funeral home to come and pick up her body. Well, the house that they said at has an L shaped front porch. It kind of goes down the east side and then down the say it goes down the down the east or no doubt, yeah, down the I'm turned around on. It goes down the east side a little bit and then back toward the west side. And so when you're sitting out there, we could hear in the night, we could hear these whoops start out and it's just like whoop whooo like that, and it was over by the creek and everything, and we could hear it, and the little kids were getting

3:27 freaked out by it. And her dad says, oh, it's just that old Bigfoot. Said he does that every once in a wall, you know, And so that really added to the fear of the little kids. And after a while they got the kids calmed down, and then the kids all went, you know, back into a bedroom or setting to play. Well, the father in law sits there and we're all adults talking, and he said, I've lived out here seventy some eighty years he said, I've never heard that before. For he said, I have camped all up and down that river and all up and down Charlie Creek, and said, I've never heard anything like that.

4:09 And he had watched shows and stuff, so he figured it was a bigfoot. And so we go back out, you know, and it starts the whooping again. So we go back out. My wife and I decide that we want to walk toward toward Charlie Creek. So we start walking out in the yard. And as we're going out in the yard, behind me, above me, I can hear this breathing like you would breathe in your throat, you know. And so I thought, I'm not going to ask my wife this until we get ready to leave, you know. And so we're walking and we get out almost to the fence area, and my wife says, I think we need to turn around and go back. I said, okay, hunh.

4:54 So we turned around and went back. Well, when we turned around, I noticed that the breathing just quit, and I thought, I don't hear any footsteps. I didn't hear any footsteps for it to come up there, and I don't hear any footsteps now, And I don't see anything, even though it was like super dark out there and everything. I thought, that's just weird. And so we go on back and we get ready to go home, and I tell my wife, I said, huh, and I said out there, said did you hear anything out there? We were hearing it walking out there. I said, why do you decide to turn back? And she said, I just had this thought coming to my mind, you need to go back, and you need to go back now. And so I just felt worried, and so I figured we better go back.

5:38 And she said, and I did hear something. I said, what did you hear? And she said, I heard breathing. He said it was like somebody breathing in their throat. And I said where was it and she said it was above me, said it was tall, and I said it was on my right hand side, which was the side I heard it on, and we were facing this direction, so we heard it up here and it was just free. Pretty soon the whooping stopped, you know, everybody went home, and I would go back out to the father in laws every once in a while and say, hey, did you have any other things happening? And he said, oh yeah, he said, I kept hearing that whooping every few nights, and said, I just figured I'm not going to go out there and see what it is. I pretty much know what it is. And so he said one night the coyotes were going crazy, and he said the kyotes always went crazy, and then the whoopman would start, and said, I went to church and it was kind of foggy and stuff. One day, and I looked out there and somebody had hit a big buck, a big eight point buck, and said the thing had walked across the highway and in the field next to his house. It had died behind this old little eight y ten building, shell of a building, and it had died there. And so he told hisself, he said, I need to I need to pull that thing out of here and get it out in the field or something away from the house, you know, tomorrow.

7:06 And he said that night the coyotes started again, and said it was right outside the window, and said I could hear them and they were fighting something. And he said when they were fighting, said every once in a while you could hear them yelp, and like one of them was getting hit and stuff. He said, the next day, I said, did you look outside and see what it was. And he goes, no, I didn't look outside, and. I thought, well I would have, but he he said, I got up and he's a hunter and a fisherman and everything, and he said, I went out there to pull that big old buck out into the field and it was gone. And he said there was hair around it and stuff.

7:47 He said, so I started doing semi circles trying to find drag marks or trying to find something. And he said it wasn't droke off, said whatever had it picked it up and carried it out, said there's no that it could have. You know, ky holed at going to drag that giant deer and stuff, and said, whatever it was had to have picked the deer up and left with it. And you know, that was our first encounter. And that was back in twenty fifteen, and then we didn't have really any more encounters. And well he had some encounters. He had. Not only that, but he had a guy that lived down the road north of him, said that when the whooping would go on and stuff, said one night he had a big thud. He lived in a mobile home and said a trailer house and said it hit the trailer house and said it actually pushed the trailer house about an inch. Said, whatever hit it, just hit it so hard it pushed the trailer house about an inch. And he said, I went out and didn't see anything and looked up my wind that didn't see anything. And all that stopped and we didn't hear anything else until about twenty four, twenty twenty five, when Jason and I and his girlfriend would do a lot of fishing because we live to fish down around the river there, which is just my goodness, maybe half a mile from his house, a mile from his house, something

9:17 like that. And then and then Jason had an encounter. Before Jason gets into that, let's let's talk a bit about the Ponca city there. So I don't think that has ever come up. I've had a lot of Oklahoma interviews, but I don't know if that particular area has come up yet. Is it known down there for a lot of big foot activity or is this pretty rare. Well for for because of where we are, we're surrounded by a whole bunch of water creeks and systems. So we have the Arkansas River. We have because we're like fifteen minutes away, thirty minutes away from Arkansas City, Kansas.

10:05 So we got the Arkansas City River, and we have the we have Call City which has the Call Dam and all that. We have a bunch of waterways, so typically from Ponka and Call area. That's really big for a bunch of bigfoot and a bunch of animals. There's things that happened that people don't really report it or talk about it. There has been a siding here in town down at Standing Bear. There was this guy that had that didn't like police. He had gone out of jail. He does not like police, and he remembers he was he was with his daughter and he remembers calling the police and saying, you need to bring like everybody out here. There is a sasquatch out here, and you bring everybody out here.

10:56 You need to bring like heavy guns, everything, and you bring everything out here. And he'd never he never went back again like he had the no no. And I actually heard that nine one one call. I actually heard that call. Really yes, uh huh oh wow? So how did you how are you able to hear that? I worked uh maintenance up at the Punk City Police Department. I've been there thirty one years and I'm a pastor here in town, and so, you know, I'm privy to a lot of stuff. I'll tell you that there's other police that have saw things, but they refused to talk because they'll think that they the other people will think that they're crazy.

11:37 You know, I do not doubt it. So they've had sightings like out on patrol or going to different different calls, et cetera. Some of the some of them, some of them hunt, some of them hunt. He went hunting one night with not infrared. He went with night vision and he got a glimpse of them. No, honey, he was was who was? He works with a bigfoot group? Oh yeah, but I did get to see his night vision and that was pretty cool because it walked. It was whistling, and all of a sudden, the guy looks down and he's looking and the thing stands up and just walks into the trees just and it was huge, you know. But but uh, but yeah, they let's see where were we? But yeah, there's there's some big foot side eats and everything every once in a hall, but hardly anyone says anything about any of that.

12:34 Yeah. Absolutely, So it'll be interesting when this episode comes out. Sometimes people will send emails off to the side, kind of stay out of the comments and and we'll see what happens there. But did at this place, this this relative's house that you were at, were they ever finding footprints around the house or anything? I thought, you know, I don't think so he never mentioned footprints or anything. I wish we would look. Right, And I guess that's the thing, because it's like, you're not there to look for bigfoot. You're there for like a pretty you know, that's not a fun experience.

13:18 I mean, you're you're paying last respects, so and it's just it's so weird because to have to deal with something bigfoot related during that it makes me wonder if there's any correlation. And I don't know because sometimes, you know, well actually a lot of times in this field, you get you get reports where there's been a person that's had an experience and it's related to a very almost traumatic time in their life, was like divorce or they have lost someone or or et cetera. And I don't know. If that if that happened because of that, or it's just they're in the area and it just happened to happen.

14:02 You know. I honestly think that that actually has correlation to my grandma passing away, because at the same time, I haven't been to my grandpa's house in a really long time, but whenever I did go down there as a kid, whenever I went down there, I heard them. I heard the coyotes going sometimes. I heard the cows going sometimes. But like the way that they're describing this night, I mean, everything was at the same time going crazy, and that's never happened out there. I've never heard the cows and the coyotes and Bigfoot go at the same time. I mean, it sounded like Noah's Arc had every single animal right there, and everything was going on at the same time, and there's no way that would just happen randomly.

14:50 And it just the fact that I knew that Bigfoot was a thing. I've never seen him before my grandma died, and as soon as she died, now I'm getting to see this dude three feet. Do you think do you think that they may have showed up because it was such a late hour at night, they saw lights and a bunch of cars. One yeah, you know, I would say that could probably be a good idea too, because you know, at the end of the day. You hear a lot of reports where it's like they're curious about stuff. I mean, I'm thinking right now, a lot of times a good way to get them in is to play a musical instrument that's not normally heard in the area where you're at. Like I've heard guys bringing them in with bagpipes. I think didgeridoo just came up on another interview I did.

15:39 So I found that's a pattern where you do something that makes them really curious or like you're having a good time, or maybe just making a lot of noise and a lot of lights, as you said, that could definitely bring them in. There's been a lot of reports where the person will be watching TV and they'll feel something kind of behind them. They'll look back and there's one in the window, not watching them, but watching the TV through the window with So I think, I think you might be onto something there as well. So and the nine one one call, I love bigfoot nine one one calls because they are so hard to hear.

16:22 Yeah, and I know this guy and he does not like cops. He's not gonna call cups just to call cups. Right, Nine one one calls are tricky. And this is per my my friend Eric Pelasio's he says, they're tricky. This is more or less because you got to get them quick. They don't stick around forever. You know, if you're gonna, if you're gonna try to listen to them, and you don't have a connection like you like you have, Uh, it's almost impossible unless you are extremely quick to try to get them. So we we had that interesting, interesting account and also a little bit of information about that there's other stuff going on in the Ponca City area too.

17:10 But what would you say would be then the next thing that either of you have experienced regarding Bigfoot. The next thing would be but you're first, and Kim my first ever encounter with him, This was whenever I was a little bit younger. I was two years ago, two years ago, so sixteen. So we were out there, We're out there at the dam at called him and we were fishing because that's where we go to fish because they have some really nice catfish out there, really nice big catfish. So we're out there and you know, I like whenever I fish. I like to fish for a long time. So my dad will be telling me, come on, let's go. And I'd be like, just one more, just one more, and I'll throw it out there, and then it'll be like four hours later and I'm saying one more. So I probably said it about four times and I got it to push to about maybe one o'clock.

18:15 It was probably one o'clock by the time we started backing up, and so we were head back up to the car, and I remember my former girlfriend, my girlfriend at the time, had called me, and so I answered her and said, Dad, give me one second, and so I started pacing. I have ADHD, so I like to walk around while I talk and pace. So I remember I walked over to where this like type of hill is. It's kind of like a hill up to a bridge and before then so it's like it's like a place for you to park pavement and then it's just like a little square and then it cuts off into grass and there's some tall grass and then hill and then water.

18:59 So no matter where anything goes, it can't leave my sight, you know what I mean, It's in the open. Anywhere it goes. If it goes in that tall grass and it leads, it's in the open. So I remember I'm hearing the noise while I was on the phone, and so I told her, hey, hold on, and it was coming from the tall grass. Well, the noise that was making was like a wrestling noise, but it kind of sounded like, I don't know if you've ever as a kid or something chased a raccoon or something and it went into grass or whatever. But that sound, that little wrestling sound where you can tell it something small, that's what I heard. So I was like, okay, what's over here? And I thought maybe it was like a little cat, because I find cats over there all the time. So I was like, give me this secade, so I'll walk over there. And then while I was walking over there, the noise got like louder, not because I was walking towards it type louder, but like more of an aggressive type of movement. And so I remember going in there and all the tall grass was it was like wheat colored, so it was bright, so any other coloration I'll see easily through it. So I was sitting down, I was looking and I told her hold on. So I had to put myself on mute and stuff so I can turn on my flashlight. So I remember turning on my flashlight, and I looked and I saw something brown in there, and I was like, okay, I don't know what this is, but you know, okay. So then I remember taking myself off of me. I was like, hey, I'm finna look at what this is. Stay on the phone with me.

20:20 I don't know what it is. So I remember like putting my hand in there and like moving, like moving it around and opening it, and man, I was probably two three foot away, and I remember opening it, and I just remember just looking straight and I thought I was looking at a wall, like I mean, like I thought I was looking at a wall. I remember looking up and I saw, I don't know, chainmail, chain mail. The knights that were chain mail that went from their head and down to their shoulders were kind of made to look like this. That's what he looked like looking he had no neck, like he was just stocky. And I remember looking up, dude, and I'm six foot right now, and that he was a taller. Than me, and you were looking what probably his chest.

21:03 I was looking like right here at his chest when I looked at him, and I'm six foot, so imagine that, and his chest is like right here, So you still have about all this to go, dude, I mean his his his shoulders were like the sizes of my head, like you took my head and made it her shoulder, Like this thing was massive and whenever I mean I thought I was looking at a wall. I thought it was literally a wall. I thought somebody had a wall there, and the tall grasses grew around it. I didn't know what it was. I remember immediately like I freaked out and some odd thing happened in my head. I was like, I'm gonna run now, I'm not gonna I'm gonna run now, I'm gonna leave. It grunted at me, not an aggressive grunt, but more of like a m you know what I mean, Not like I'm not I can't do that deep voice, but like more of like a like kind of a grunt at me. And I started running and I was yelling at him to start the car, like leave, like I'm terrified. And I mean like I'm somebody that's not scared of much.

22:10 Yeah, he's not scared of much. And he was running monster. Bro like I'm I'm not scared of much like anything I've been in rollover car rex and stuff like that, Like I'm not scared of much. And I remember like saying like this is a monster, like run like I don't know what to do. I can't do nothing. And I remember he was trying to give me to talk about it for a while. I wouldn't. I wouldn't because what I saw that day was inhuman, like I it's nothing that you that we was meant to see, you know what I mean? And it was there in front of me. And the fact that I've heard about him and everybody was like, oh, we can't get good sightings on him. We can like people go, don't get good pictures and stuff like that. And I'm three foot away from this thing. Everybody says it's not friendly if you make it mad that people can't put good pictures because they don't like people. And I'm standing in front of it.

23:03 Wow, three feet is so close. Uh did you smell anything when you were in that area? I can't remember whether I smelled anything or not. I know that if I smelled anything, it was probably fear coming from myself. If I'm gonna be on it, like I felt like it grunting at me. I kind of felt like it was more of like a like a get out of here, like leave because he wasn't aggressively, so I feel like he was just being like, hey, don't get any closer type of grunt like okay, you found me, I'm here, now leave before this get works exactly.

23:47 And I just like, I just remember this, like this thing was just I don't I don't know how to explain I don't. It doesn't, I don't know how to explain it. The grunt that it was making, is that sounds similar to anything else that you've ever heard? Yes, yes, it's kind of weird. Yes, it kind of whenever you listen to movies and you're looking at like a bull or something. It kind of sounded like whenever it's getting into charge and it.

24:29 Grunts okay wow, like. Like you know that bigfoot, it's it's voice. It can make it ten times deeper than the bulls, because I mean, it's just it's big foot. I mean, come on, but I mean the way how how deep bulls voices are whenever they grunt. That's the deepness that it was. And I knew that he wasn't threatening me. He was just saying, okay, you call me, I'm here, but you need to go now. Do not get any closer. Okay. Have you been back to that area since then? Yes? Okay? And how long did it take for you to get back there.

25:15 I didn't start going back there until this year. Yeah, a few There was a time with his girlfriend and me, and then we brought him back, and so it was probably probably three quarters of a year, maybe a year. And and Jack, you're also there correct during this time? Yes? Huh did you notice anything out of the ordinary from where you were at the area? And no, because I was he had went up another route more near the water, and I went up just this little path and when I got here, he was coming around here and he just was booking it to the car, just I mean screaming, and he was he was saying, I mean, it was a literal fear. And he was saying, it's a monster dead, it's a monster.

26:12 Get out of here. Let's go. Let's go start that car, start that car. And he was like claw on the wall. Yeah. I didn't see it or anything. And the only reason why I mentioned earlier now, and it was because whenever I said that there's no place for it to go, is because I told my dad, like come here, like you know what I mean? Because he's asking what and I'm not going to explain nothing. Let me just show you. Let me just show you. It can't go nowhere because if it goes this way, it's going straight in the water. And I know that thing is not about to hold his breath all the way across the dam. It's it can't go straight that way because it's going to go up a hill on the see. It can't go over this way because that's an open field and it's not tall grass, and you can't come forward because it's pavement. And I can see him, yeah to him, come over there, and he's gone there.

27:03 We can't find him. I didn't hear nothing either. And I've thought about this and I wondered, i wondered how that could happen. And I kind of get an idea. What if he went down all fours, you know, like they do that spider crawl thing. What if he Absolutely that's what I'm thinking. Because we didn't hang around there very long. Jason was very adamant that we needed to leave. Right Yeah, which makes sense absolutely, But yeah, I mean that's a solid, solid idea. And actually just talk to a gentleman who that's his things he's studying the whole spider crawl thing. So you you left pretty quickly. You did not stick around to look at the area where it had disappeared or it went somewhere else. Have there ever been any stories of people having some things in that same area as well.

27:59 And not that we know of just the father in law thing, but there now I think, oh, somebody, bigfoot research or something like that, said that there were some I forgot who it was, said that there was some activity over in Tonka Wall along that river and everything, which is about what's about fifteen miles west of US Okay, And so there's there's activity along the rivers. But I think that they told my sister in law that they've had a call or two about whooping and stuff out in that area before. But as far as me personally, no, I you know, this is it started in twenty fifteen, and it's just kind of increased with me and him, you know, in the last couple of years, which it's fascinating, you know, some really interested in it now.

29:07 It is a thing where with I would say, it's either going to freak you out and you'll never do anything else with it again, or you'll get really interested in it and you just really get into it. Jason, what would you say, how did how did it affect you after you had this sighting of something right in front of you. For a while, I didn't talk about it. I didn't talk about it. Didn't want to relive the moment in my head. Like we said to you, about three quarters of a year or a year to come for me to come back. And you know, I'm I'm eighteen now, so I think I've gained a little bit of a little bit of Okay, this was going back and dealing with whatever it was. I've kind of faced the fact that he's there, but I'm also there and whether he likes it or not, whether I like it or not, we're gonna be around each other m and I kind of gotta get used to the fact that that's that's gonna happen, and something might happen, and that is okay.

30:33 I think that's that's a good way to look at it. Are you at this point ever actively trying to go into areas and see if you can figure stuff out or having other things happen. Or. Yes, actually I really want to go back where I saw him and go set up like a trail cam or something. Then and I'm gonna put some food or something out there and see if he if I one capture him or two not capture him like grabbing. I'm not gonna grab like capture him on camera. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna jump on his bag.

31:15 Nope, No, I wouldn't recommend it. Uh, but once if I can capture him on camera or to see if he'll leave me like a rock or something like a gift or something back, you know, because if I can see, if I can see something that he's given a gift back, I know the camera will at least pick it up the most intensing that he rolled something over there or something, you know, because I know he's smart. I know he's smart. Another person told me that, you know, he he lives in those woods, so he knows every tree. He's going to see, that tree, he's going to see that trail camp. He's not dumb, right, so he's not gonna want to be seen seen if he doesn't want to be So. Is that anything that you ever ever hear about in this area about people that say that they have uh you know, a family of bigfoot or a Bigfoot living on their property and leaving gifts. Is that ever anything that comes up, or it's just one of those things where people really don't talk about it.

32:12 It's it's really one of those things that people don't really talk about it. I mean, I haven't heard many other people talk about bigfooting them seeing him. But I really guarantee with how many people that I've met while fishing and doing things, I say, hey, I've been out here seventy plus years fishing this water. I can sell you how to catch one of those big guard right now, I guarantee that dude also has seen Bigfoot. He just doesn't want to talk about it because, like my dad said about somebody that he knows, they're just going to think they're crazy. And you know, I understand that because I wouldn't want for someone to think I'm crazy. Whenever. This thing's terrifying and I'm trying to warn you that it's there, but you know, people just don't like to talk about stuff like that.

32:56 Jason, I want to double check something about your incounter, just from the way I understood it. So you were not able to see the face? Correct, No, it was too it was too dark for that right, But I do know that if I did see its face, it probably would have been worse. Yeah, no, absolutely, I would be right there with you. Thinking back on your account, what would you say, is the one detail that you experienced where you're like, okay, one hundred percent, what is in front of me is absolutely a bigfoot because of this one thing. The grunt. Okay, the grunt, that's all it was. I and this, this is an opinion that I have, and I said this every time somebody talk to me about bigfoot.

33:44 I personally think bigfoot is a type of a rangutang. I mean, if you've seen King Kong versus Godzilla, if you've seen Scarface, that rangutang, I mean, look at it, look at him, and then think about a big foot. He has long arms, long legs, He walks on his own legs, He gets down all fours, he can do things. A type of a rang tang. That's immediately what I go for. I mean, come on, now, a rank tang that can think that can do things. But I I just man, I don't even know how to. When I when I ask you to describe him, he couldn't. He wouldn't talk for a long time. And then sure we get talking and I said the setting heart did he look like? And eventually I started thinking, well, maybe he'll look at pictures, so I said, did he look like this? And the closest thing that he said is skarking off of the King Kong God's a little movie.

34:44 He said, he looked reminded me of scarking because of the way was built and stead. Interesting. Yeah, I'll need to I'll need to look that up to refresh my memory about that. I also noticed by looking on the map that you guys are pretty close to an O Sage Reservation? Is that right? Yes? Have you ever heard any any related things happening over in that area regarding Bigfoot? Yes? I have. I have a member of Native friends, and they wholeheartedly, for the most part, you know, believe any in in everything. And you know some of them have said they've seen things and stuff like that, but they definitely it's Indian people have no problem you know, in saying they believe you exist on It makes the ones I know, mm.

35:43 Hmmm, I agree with you. I talked to a lot of people down in southeast Oklahoma, like around uh well anywhere down there. Oh, I be all those places, and a lot of the accounts that I hear are like very aggressive. Have you found that that's the case for what you guys are hearing around this area or does it seem to be a whole different ballgame from what you're hearing. The ones that I've heard of and the ones that were with us, they weren't aggressive, but they were they were very dominant, you know, like like we feel like that. When they showed their self to us, it was like, you know, now you see me. There's an encounter with his girlfriend and I where we came upon one and it was balled up like a little like a big rock, you know, it was weird.

36:39 I could say mine is probably a little bit aggressive. Yours was a little gren was a little bit aggressive. Yeah. The other one I had was a little bit aggressive. But I do think they stand the potential will be pretty aggressive if you push you. Oh, they. They just want. So Jack, you were saying that you also, yeah, because I remember this in the in our correspondence too. So you and. Jason's former girlfriend then, uh huh, yeah, so you actually both had a sighting together. Jason wasn't with us, but we decided that we'd go riding around. So we went back out to the river.

37:24 We were driving around, horsing around stuff, and I said, hey, let's go back where Jason saw that Bigfoot. And she is like on edge, you know. And we get down there and I'm horsing around trying to scare and I'm going, come on, Bigfoot, show yourself, show us, show us who you are. And Steph and we get down there and you go down this road down to the river, and there's a parking lot there. And to go down this road, you make a left into that parking lot. Okay, along this road right here, right, here's the river. Right, here's the river, and here's the road that comes down and makes the right to the parking lot. Right here is a guard rail that stands probably about four foot tall and somewhere in there, and there's a slope on the other side of that guard rail just filled with rocks, rocks, And so anyway, I'm mouthing the big Foot and I'm going down there, you know. And we get down there, we make a right. We're not even looking to our left.

38:31 We make a right into that parking lot. We decided to turn around. She's going, Dad, this is a pretty sketchy road, and I said, oh, it's fine, it's just an old fishing road. So we make a right turn, our car to the left, and then on our right is that guardrail. And I said what is that? And she looked at it and she said, what is that? Dad? And I said, I have no idea, but that's huge. And I, for some reason I said, is that a wolf? You know? And she goes, is it a wolf? I don't that's huge, and I said, I don't know. I thought, well, maybe it's two wolves. And I thought wolves. We don't have wolves around here, you know. And this thing was it was taller than the guardrails, probably eight to ten inches taller than the guardrails. Well, I slowed the car down purposely. Now I've went back out there and purposely redone that so I could see and tell you about how slow we were going. We were going about two to three miles an hour. And the reason we were doing that is because it was being very, very steel, and it was crouched down and it had its it had its arms on its thighs, and it had its head buried, and it looked like it was trying to make a little rock out of itself, but it, you know, the thing was huge. But so I slowed down and my camera was right there. I thought, lowered my camera

40:02 and didn't think a thing about it. But I was trying to capture everything I could with my eyes because I can remember things really well. And I looked at that thing and I thought, sham nitly, that thing is a monster. I could see its hands, I could see its shoulders and back, and its back was probably I figured it probably about four foot across on the back, and if it would have stood up, it would have probably stood eight foot tall, eight to nine foot tall. And the thing I couldn't see its face, but I could see its arms, its hands, its feet, and it looked like if you could take a gorilla and the Incredible Hulk and a man and just mix it, because it had gigantic hands. But they had fingers like human fingers, which was interesting. And they were huge. I mean, those fingers were probably three of mine, two to three of my fingers. And its hands were bigger then it's it should have been in proportion to its body. Its feet were huge and had like human type feet. It was.

41:18 It had hair that was on its sides and on its arms, and then on the back it had more slicked down hair like a gorilla or a dog, and it was kind of a black. It was black and grayish with some omber in their armber color in there, and it looked like that they had took two bowling balls, literally bowling balls, and just stuck it where the shoulders would be. Didn't have a neck. It had a comb type head like a gorilla, and it was just being super super like you don't see me, you know type thing.

42:00 But I remember, and Pierce was just like on edge, you know, and she was looking at it. And second we get out of there, we make that turn and we look up at the road and we're going back, and then we look back and it's gone. It is gone. But that thing was monstrous. And we get on the phone. She's calling mom. She's going Mom, we saw a bigfoot. She's screaming and stuff. But it was It was cool, And I mean, I wasn't scared. I don't, you know, the thing if it decided to flip the car, it could have flipped the car easy, but for some reason, I wasn't scared. And I think it was because it was being secretive and as long as it's not trying to be aggressive. That means it's not going to hurt me.

42:49 And I'm in a car, you know, and so we just kind of inch by it, real, real calm and peaceful, kind of like we don't see it, but we're looking at it, taking everything we can take in, you know. And that was what we saw that night. Wow. What was the year on that again? That would have been twenty twenty four, twenty five, See, this is maybe twenty five, maybe first part of twenty five. Yeah, it'd been first part twenty five. Okay, And you said this is a pretty close similar area where Jason had his sighting too.

43:32 It was the exact same area. Yeah, how far away would you say it was? It was? It was the same parking lot, just on the other side. Yeah, just don't like God, this parking lot. So you probably have it literally, you probably have about fifty feet worth of distance right there. Yeah. Uh, what color was was it again? Jack? He looked black with gray ani and he had some amber looking hair and. Okay, so very interesting, so different color than what Jason saw. Yeah yeah wow.

44:14 So I mean then that makes you ask a few questions? Are there more than one? There are there different colors. Do their colors changed throughout the year. Yeah, just a lot of questions we don't have answers for. Have you been back to that area since then? We had one more encounter there. Yeah, we had one, you know, we because that's our favorite fishing place. But you're not going to give it if you go down, man, there's the first there's the first parking lot, and then you can go on down the river to the second parking lot, and then there is a sand bar out there and behind I'm on the back of that sandbar, about eighty feet is the trees begin and the rivers out in front of you. And so this would be probably maybe two hundred yards from the first place. So you go there's the first park lot, and go to the second parking lot and go down on the sandbar and go down probably one hundred or two feet onto the sandbar. And anyway, yeah, we had that was our final and probably the wildest of them. We went out there and we were fishing late man, and it was me and his girlfriend and Jason. We were fishing late

45:45 and Jason does these things where he didn't like to carry any equipment. So me and her get to be the pack mules, you know. And so we're down there fishing, and we fished for hours, and we are catching big catfish and we're just cutting the heads off and flaying them there and putting them in an ice chest and stuff, and we're throwing the guts and stuff at the edge of the water because the birds will come and eat them, and scavengers will come. And so anyway, it is like probably two o'clock in the morning, because I remember it being around two o'clock. And I said, man, we've got to go, guys, And so Jason says, oh, I don't want to go. I said, come on, said, he said, go ahead and start and I'll and I'll be there in a minute. And I thought, yeah, when we get everything carried out there, and so you know, I start taking the first load up there. Well, when you're going, when you're going back toward the car on your right hand side, now is all this bush. And I start hearing this crunching in the bush. Well, I know what it is, you know, by this time, and I can hear him and I'd take a step and he'd take a step, and I'd take a step and he'd take a step and I'm just I just keep on going because I'm thinking, I don't want to find out if you'll hurt me or anything. So he's not doing anything right now except pacing me, and so he's keeping pace

47:20 with me, and I could hear him grunting like like like that, and I just go on up and I'm thinking, come on, guys, let's go. Well, I see Piers and she's got the flashlight and she's coming up the same way I did. Well. When I get up there, I said, is he coming and she said I don't know, said i'll go down and get him. And I said, well, i'll go, and says, no, you stay year, I'll go get him. So she takes a flashlight and goes down and gets him. And I'll let Jason tell about what was going on.

48:00 So whenever she came down there to get me, she she kind of just found me just like dying. Basically, I felt like I was dying. So I will I will recap on that. So whenever he had first gone up there, like he said, my former girlfriend had went up there too to take up another load. She had took the flashlight with her. So I was down there, no flashlight, no nothing, I was literally relying on the moon to light everything up so I could see, and I could see a little bit in some places. In some places where too dark or I couldn't see. So I remember I was this time, I was genuinely gonna grab some of my stuff and take it up there and help. But then I remember, I just I started feeling really sick out of nowhere. I started feeling really really sick, very weak to the very weak, six dumbay, hurt, headache, like dizzy, nauseous, everything like all under the sun. I just felt I felt like I was dying. I was having a heart attack with stroke something. I was dying.

49:07 And I remember just saying, you know, I'm outside. It's two o'clock in the morning. It's cold. If I just take my shirt off or something, or I do something, I just lay I just lay down on my back. I'll feel better. It it's cold. So I remember laying down on my back on the sand. I have a hat on. So I'm sitting here laying down like this, and I remember I remember just something I don't know. I don't know what it was, but something just told me to look up, and I'm like I said, I'm like my back. So I look up like this, so I'm like looking behind me, and I remember just seeing something just just tall, dude. I mean this is we measured it. It was about it would have been about eight foot, about eight and a half foot.

49:49 Eight and a half foot. And how far away was it? It was eighty eighty one hundred foot away. It was just sitting there, standing there, staring at me. I look up and it was staring at me. And so I remember in my head immediately thinking I'm I'm gonna die either way right now, like either this thing is gonna come get me or I'm gonna die to whatever's going on with my body right now. And so I remember immediately I don't I got a little bit of adrenalin into my body. I didn't get much. I got a little bit, and I managed to get myself up and grab what was left. I mean there was a cooler and a chair and cold fishion polks. I managed to like bear hug and grab it, and I moved like two feet and like collapsed and fail. Like I mean, like I felt like I was dying. I don't know what was going on. I was perfectly fine the whole night.

50:45 I felt like I was dying. I remember. I remember after that, whenever I saw a Pierce coming back now with the flashlight. I remember, I remember looking back over there and glancing and nothing was there, like it was gone. But then whenever she was like what's going on? Like why are you sent down? Like you're you good or uk? And I was like, yeah, we can talk about it up here in a minute. So I remember walking up there, and I was sitting there and I was thinking at like aftermath. I was sitting there thinking, and I was like, it doesn't make sense to me why he would just stand there and stare. Doesn't it make sense to me on why he would willingly open himself up in the moonlight where I can see and openly stand there and stare.

51:34 And I sat there and thought about it, and it was I cut up fish heads and gutted fish and filed them and threw them out in the water, like right there on the bank where you could where the birds and stuff can still get it. And I was laying down and Pierced took the flashlight well, like he said, he was pacing him walking him up to the car. And so when he was facing him walking in up to the car. Then he came down there to see who was down there, because they saw him go up to the car and he saw Pierce go up to the car with a flashlight. And Pierce said that she heard pacing to you. Yeah.

52:16 Pierce said that she was walking and she faked a step, and he stepped whenever she did it. And that's what really got her nervous. And that's what really got her nervous. So the thing was is what he was doing was he walked him up to the car and then walked her up to the car whenever she walked up there, and then came back down there and waited for me. Wow. So what I'm thinking in my head was was either one or two things. Either he was just trying to see where everybody was at and what they were doing. Or he was like, Okay, you just filaid up some fish over there, you left some guts and heads and stuff. I'm hungry.

52:59 They're leaving. I'm gonna walk you up here now so you can leave. So I remember getting told something about what is it called sound infrasound or whatever, and so I was sitting there and I was sitting there thinking about it, and they told me that bigfoots can do that, and they can make me feel sick, they can make me feel worried, scared, all the above, And so I'm just confused as of why now, of everybody else there, he singled me out, and I'm feeling the only reason why he also showed himself like that was because I also don't think he knew I was there, because, like I said, she had taken the flashlight and I was laying down and I was wearing dark clothes. I wear dark clothes whenever I fished, and I was wearing dark clothes and I was laying down, So I think he didn't see men till I started looking, until I looked up and moved, and then all that happened. Maybe I might have startled him a little bit and then he was like, you gotta go now or something, and that's why he made me feel like that, But it was just the level of I was more scared of that situation in my head. I didn't put it off that way because if I really needed to have time that I can try to run, I'm not gonna get much.

54:17 I'm not gonna get very far, but at least I got a little bit of a historic right. But I was more scared of that situation than I was the other one, because this dude, it made me feel like I was dying and I couldn't move, and it was like aggressive, like an aggressive he was just staring at me. How long did it take for that feeling to leave from you? Oh? It took. It took about fifteen to twenty minutes after we left. Okay, when he started off, he started immediately feeling better then, which was interesting.

55:00 Yeah, which which makes total sense based off off of other reports that I get. So this one was really recent then? Yeah, this was probably a couple of months ago. No, this had been let's see, this is November. Yeah, yeah, this was probably June July. Man, incredible still your fishing spot though. Oh yeah, pictures of eight nine ten pound catfish, three pound carp I'm gonna say, some big fish man. Yeah. And you know, I think that if he was gonna hurt us any of those times he could have, he could have killed us and nobody would have known it, you know.

55:50 Yeah, it would have been game over for sure. I think that. I'm on the same page with you where you guys are putting tons of food out there and you're not leaving fast enough. You know. It's like, you know, I'm here. I'm just kind of I'm just kind of scared for, you know, for people to really get to get real, real close with him. So I mean, like, like he said, he could have killed us and nobody would have known. I mean, if someone can get real close with this thing, it'd. Be bad, right right. And this is a public area, public fishing spot, so there could be all sorts of people there at different.

56:30 Times, children and anything, And like, I know the fact that dude, I know that, I know that Bigfoot could pick up a car and throw that thing in the water and make it look like nobody was ever there. And I know he's smart, so I know he will. And kids and stuff are out there all the time. Dogs and stuff are out there all the time. So it's and I. Think that I think he may show up like super late at night, because these encounters we've had been like one mainly one or two in the morning. We're hard anybody usually we're the only ones out there around that time. And I'm just wondering if maybe he goes any scavenges and knows that people aren't there, you know, and that's maybe he's not really wanting to be seen and stuff.

57:18 I don't know. Yeah, the things you're hearing at the police station, Jack where it's from other individuals, you know, we're not going to name. Are they having their their encounters late at night too, or is it all all throughout the day. Pretty much, No, they're heaving late at night. And like the people I know, they'll go, you know, they'll be on patrol or something. Like one of them was before we got him down here. He was with some other people and he drove over a bridge and he looked over and he saw it, you know, out there at the edge of the water, and he wouldn't talk about it.

58:01 There was one pretty close to in town where something was looking over a wall and that wall was about seven foot tall, but it was looking over the wall. And you know, they don't seem to come in town and bother people or anything like that. They're not as far as I know. They're not looking into windows and stuff like that. They're pretty much staying away from people as much as they can. It seems like, yeah, we know, do we know is Bigfoot nocturnal? Well, I mean there are a lot of activity or interactions that happen at night, but I mean they can be seen all throughout all through the day. I've had reports where, you know, everything from early morning to mid afternoon, but a lot of stuff is at night though.

58:58 Yeah. So I was sitting there thinking, I wonder if he's like, if he like is a type of I'm a high extplining he's like nocturnal, but at the same time, he like doesn't just stay in one place all day during the morning. Right, Yeah, It's it's interesting to think about. Well, guys, this is this is such an interesting group of encounters because it's not one where it's like this happened twenty years ago, like this happened a few months ago, and will probably continue to happen because at the end of the day, it's your fishing spot. Yeah, visions love it and you're gonna keep going.

59:40 Yeah. So, I mean I would love to to hear if things continue to happen. Uh, you know, please let us know if you'd be willing to share things continue to happen. I think that honestly, I'm gonna go and buy a go Bro and where whenever I go fishing. He's gonna capture I'm. Telling you it's gonna happen. I'm gonna capture him on camera or I'm gonna capture by tackling him, and I don't care. Either way, it's gonna happen. Oh, Jason, I might recommend the go bro. Okay, yeah, Well the go pro don't work. We're gonna try those little ball things that you throw and they wrap around people's ankles.

1:00:22 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, use those. Yeah. I don't know about the go pro, but the last time you had a NAT it was a less go nice one. Good work, good work, guys. I appreciate you. I appreciate you hanging out with me today. Were you were you. Able to share everything that you'd want to share on the show today? Yeah? Yeah, thanks so right. Well, I appreciate you being able to to come forward to share not just audio but also yourselves on camera, which is a really big step for for someone to be able to do that. And we'll definitely keep in touch if things continue to happen. But thank you so much for coming on the show today.

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