Bigfoot Terror in Connecticut — Slaps, Screams, and Eyes in the Dark

0:00 You're listening to Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron Tonight's story doesn't come from the Pacific Northwest or the Alaskan Wilderness. Comes from a suburban home in Connecticut, just minutes from grocery stores and paved roads. But what happened there, what was recorded, and what was seen through the window, may be the most disturbing account we've heard yet. Slaps on the walls, footsteps on the roof, and something crouching behind a log watching. So this is a story of JJ Messenger and what he found in the forest of bark Hampstead. So stay with us three two one, Bigfoot Society. You've got the privilege of talking to JJ Messenger today. JJ's an individual that reached out to me about some interesting things he's experienced over the years in bark Hampstead, Connecticut, after he heard my interview with Chris Reinhart about activity down in people State forest Believe, and JJ reached out because he's very tested to hear that other people were having things happen in the same area.

1:04 So, JJ, welcome to the show. How are you doing, sir. I'm doing good. Thank you for having me. Awesome awesome. Yeah. I was very surprised and shocked to hear that other people were experiencing things in people's stay forest and that there was active investigators going through this area, because for the most part, I figured that it was a secret, it was unknown, and I lived right on the border. I moved in the past month, but I lived right on the border people's state forest. There's a state forest access road down the street to me, and I grew up there and I inherited my parents' house, and you know, it's a fairly populated area, so I would never, ever, ever suspect that there was an unknown shall we say, species or creature that could exist and stay hidden in this area. It's a suburban area. It's got quite a few homes. I remember doubting my own experiences because I would tell myself, no, no, no, there's just too many

2:34 people here. It can't be you know. I've always believed that that there are sasquatch or Bigfoot, that they would be in the most remote areas, you know, like the Sierra Nevada or northern California. I never ever thought that they could be in Barcampstead, Connecticut. And apparently apparently there are people reinforcing my experiences. There are people also having experiences which that blew me away. I mean when I heard your show, that blew me right on my chair.

3:18 You know, I was very surprised. Wow, And you know I have we're talking a little bit off air where. You know, I grew up in western mass so I'm a little bit familiar with this area, you know, Winstead, all that area. Intend to find out that back in the day, you know, there is actually as the Winstead wild Man. Correct, there is a pretty important historical accounts of Bigfoot being seen back in the eighteen hundreds, is that right? Yes, eighteen ninety five several sightings in the town of Colebrook, right by Winstead, several sightings of a hairy six foot tall what they call the wild band. The first sighting was from a town selectman. Well, not the first sighting, but the most prominent sighting was the town select man who was picking berries with his dog and out came this hair covered what they called the wild Man. He streamed, he leapt, he jumped into the forest, and it shocked the man completely and he shared his story. And after he shared his story with the local papers, more and more accounts came in incredibly fascinating.

4:48 One of my favorite things is to hear about an area where it is active in current day, but then see the historical documents to back back it up that that area has been potentially active for hundreds of years. It's just it's the coolest thing to see. But you know, jj I, I'm very interested to hear you know it what it was. You know, feel free to take us back to maybe the first time that you started realizing, Okay, something out of the ordinary is going on in this area that I live in. Yes, I was a caretaker from my elderly mom. She in her eighties, and she had various disabilities. And one night she told me she saw a pair of glowing eyes in the window looking at her. And I said to her, was and I'll you know, I'm looking for logical explanations for the glowing eyes. She said, no, I look like the silhouette of a large being. I knew that she enjoyed watching the show Finding Bigfoot along with me, so I figured that she was letting her imagination get the best of her, right, so I literally did not take her seriously. I went out, I looked for footprints

6:20 I didn't find any evidence of anything. But if it was as tall as what she was saying, it would have to be over eight feet tall. So yeah, I told her, I don't really believe this, but I'm going to prove it to you, right, I'm going to set up what's called gifting in the back. I'm going to put out like a peanut bird jar. Now I'm not I'm not a big advocate of gifting, and I wouldn't have started it if I didn't if I had thought there was even a chance of sasquatch being back there.

7:02 But I set out peanut butter jars, and I searched around for indicators of a possible bigfoot, you know, with the branch structures, and I really didn't see much. I tried a few hitting trees, you know, back in the day, all I knew about the research was what I saw, I'm finding bigfoot. So I was trying to hit trees to solicit a response, and close by there was a very loud branch stamp, so I'm like, whoa. You know, I didn't expect that to happen. So I'm scanning the wilderness close by. You know, it's all on video. I would always video or audio record everything. I'm scanning the forest looking for black bear because we do have a lot of black bear. As a matter of fact, people re locate their black bear too. Bar camps did that.

8:03 They get in trouble when they are more populated town. So yeah, it is see any evidence of any type of wildlife. And I thought that branch stamp was very unusual. But I left out the peanut butter for a few weeks and eventually something took the pan be out there, unscrewing the top and leaving the lid, and I thought that was highly unusual because you know it was black bear, there'd be tooth marks all through it. So I started to get perhaps a little bit of pau I was thinking, well, maybe my mother did see something in that window after all, because I couldn't understand why. I do know that raccoons are very amberdexterous with their hands, so I'm still looking for logical, you know, excuses for everything. Okay, the raccoons took the peanut, but so apparently what I'm doing is starting to increase your conventional sasquatch activity because I'm starting to find those triangular branch stick formations in the woods,

9:34 and I'm starting to find large foot impressions. Nothing that's really detailed, like a foot impression in a mud where you could like count all the toes or anything, but instead large indentations in the vegetation in the grass that were human shape but much larger than my foot. And you know, being logical, I was also thinking, okay, black bearris they have their front and back paws overlap, right, and that that can create the illusion. But the trouble with these foot impressions where is that they were much wider than the black bear would have. They were extremely wide foot impressions. I have a wild photographed, and you know, I'm I'm still very doubtful, you know, I'm still very skeptical, thinking, no, this can't be, you know. So I'm still exploring as a skeptic. And I start setting out audio recorders in the woods, and I start recording what I considered to be unknown sound, sound that are not easily traced to black bear, fox or any the common wildlife of our

11:09 area fisher, you know, And I'm making a point of trying to familiarize myself with the common wildlife sounds, and I'm catching what appears to be like a gibberish, you know, like that kind of sound, and I'm you know, logical explanation, Well, maybe there are people while in the woods in the middle of the night making odd sounds. But you know, for the life of me, I couldn't imagine such a scenario because, you know, the only scenario that could indicate that it was people is that if they were trying to prank me. But no one knew what I was doing.

12:02 This was all in private, you know, just my mother who was disabled in her wheelchair. Nobody knew what I was doing. Where I was setting recorders, no one knew the areas I was investigating, so the idea that someone was pranking me was non tenable. And it got to the point where there was activity around the house. I mean slaps on the house light, footsteps on the roof, which I believed to be smaller entities that they would actually go up on the roof and walk around. There was one evening when my mother and I were sitting in the living room and there was a literal conversation in the backyard, you know, of a low guttural voice going back and forth with each other. And I'm looking at her like, are you hearing this? You know, I'm just in total with disbelief because this is Bark Camp Stay, Connecticut.

13:18 You know, this is not the Sierra Nevada Range. You know, this is you know, for the Sierra Sounds, they had to go riding horseback deep into the wilderness and stuff, and here I'm hearing similar sounds in a very populated area, in a fairly populated town, in the house that I grew up in, and you know, it's just it became a very strange and surreal experience for both of us. And she has since passed on. But the few people we did I'd share these experiences where did not believe it, you know, family members or friends or whatever. It's obviously a hard thing to swallow, and people are like, well, you're obviously misinterpreting or you're obviously mistaken. But I have many, many, many recordings of what I believed to be a unidentified vocals out in those woods, and I just have no idea what these vocals are. Now some of some of the recordings, perhaps if I had like a wildlife specialist that I could prefer with, you know, perhaps it could help me out on that but I'm fairly certain that

14:49 many of these recordings are you're, conventional sounding bigfoot recordings. I can't prove. There was an occasion when I was walking out back to lead more food at the Gifting log and I saw a small form. He was about fifty to seventy five feet away, and he was behind a fallen tree, and this small form sat up to attention, and I do have it on video. Unfortunately it's kind of a blob on video, you know, because my camera was not of top quality. But he sat up, and there's a few frames in the footage where you can see shoulders ahead and you don't see the conventional black bear ears sticking out. Especially with the younger black bear, they had those very prominent years that come up. And he ducked back down behind the log and he sat up again, And that's not a conventional black bear behavior of ducking and sitting up. Black bear will climb up

16:20 added attention and sniff you know, the air, but they're not they're not playing like peekaboo, you know. And whatever this small form ended up doing was crawling close to the ground to retreat. So I actually didn't see his retreat because of the undergrowth, but that this peak aboo behavior was very unusual, very unusual, and combined with the audio recordings and the various footsteps on the roof and it's flat on the house and foot impressions in the grass and all right on the edge of People's forest of bark Hampstead. So when I heard your your podcast of a man that was having experiences at People's forest, I was like, oh, okay, okay, this this fakes it more substantial, you know.

17:28 Yeah, absolutely, when you unscrewed that jar peanut butter, did it look like anything had reached inside to try to take some out. Yeah, the peanut butter chars would disappear and the weeds would be left behind. And once in a while I would find the chars with no toothbarks and they would be like cleaned out, spotless, you know, like like something bright to the brook. And there's this little brook that runts out back that's very it's spring fed, it's fresh water, it's it's very high quality water brook. And yeah, yeah, the containers should be cleaned out spot with And I would also find what I considered to be possible returning gifts on my footpath, like a bird's net or two birds nests, a turkey feather and a hawk feather.

18:32 The sounds that you've recorded, the Gibbers sounds over the years, are those available anywhere to listen to or is that you have those you know, privately in a research collection. Yes, yes, I put them on YouTube. But I did take a lot of the YouTube videos down because I kept reworking my channel trying to get more popular, because it wasn't at tracking attention. And actually the only attack attention it was attracting were the trolls, you know, and the people that would mock here make fun of it. You know, I wasn't getting that attention from the open minded audience that will open to the subject. I am reworking the videos and I will put the audio, much of the audio back up.

19:27 Yes, that's great. I'm going to soapbox for a little bit. Never given to those individuals. There will always be individuals that will just be putting terrible comments on your show, your channel and making fun of people. And there's a great feature where you can mute those individuals. That I have to do that over and over and over again. It's just yeah, don't let that stop you from putting stuff up. I would say, right, right, Well, what was discouraging to me was that was the only attention I was getting, you know, like like if you had a fair balance of people going oh wow, that's incredible, or people going well, yes, you know it, there's a balance of reaction and that's better.

20:21 But to only get the skeptical responses was it was very disconcerting. Yeah, well, I would say, I would say, keep it up, keep putting stuff up. The right people will see it eventually. Have you ever reached out to Chris yourself after hearing that interview? No, I haven't, but I'm very interested in what he's doing. He's he's doing a lot of the paranormal side of things. I do have experiences with the paranormal investigation because while growing up, I knew the family at the Warrange, and I also knew a lot of their students, and I've been on investigations with a lot of their students, like David Khans Dying for example. So yeah, yeah, I'm very familiar with the paranormal. I've attended Catholic exorcisms, I've been in haunted homes, I've watched Poltergeis activity. But I've never approached the Bigfoot subject from a paranormal angle. You know, to me, this is something physical, this is something material.

21:46 I do know that a lot of people are suggesting that these unknowns, or if we want to call them sasquatch or Bigfoot, I just still call them on the always that they're inter dimensional, or that they have extraordinarity, extraordinary qualities and abilities. But I have yet the witness at what I've experienced so far has been very grounded down to earth, you know, like an actual physical entity.

22:26 That's very interesting. It actually kind of brings up a question I was going to ask you, is so you're having this activities start to happen around the house, Slaps on the house, light, footsteps on the roof, conversations in the backyard. Is there anything that is starting to happen inside the house over the years. No, okay, nothing inside the house? Gotcha, yep. Has there been a time where you have experienced things happening to yourself? I think if you remember the interview with Chris, he started to have some really interesting things happened to himself, physically detached, retina's, et cetera.

23:13 Anything like that. No, No, there have been a logical things that have happened, like getting buying disease from ticks, you know. Oh man, I'm sorry. I've had several flare ups of those buying disease rashes and had to be on antibiotics. But I don't have any disabilities from it we so far, thank god, you know. But I haven't had any detrimental physical experiences like some people suggest that infrasound frequencies or whatever, can you some detrimental physical reactions I had. I hadn't experienced any of that, No, gotcha.

24:10 And maybe also asking have you ever experienced anything where you know, witnesses will say I started hearing a type of voice in my head or mind speak or any communication like that. No, no mind speak whatsoever. One thing that I was experiencing now, and having a background with paranormal haunted house investigations, I would record all my walks in the woods and I would get there what is typically called VP or electronic voice phenomena on those recordings, whispery type messages you know in English. I would get a lot of EVP on those recordings during my walks. Not one EVP. Now, it would seem to be something that the sasquad tried to Bigfoot would want to communicate because the peanut butter I was leaving was starting to be ignored, and one EVP suggested, do you have honey? And so I would start to leave small containers of honey, and that honey would not be ignored always taken.

25:46 So it kind of brings up an interesting conversation because I think there's overlaps in these two fields sometimes, And so you have the background of the paranormal research but also the background of the bigfoot research, and at times you're having things that could be interpreted by either side that it could be due to a ghost or spirit or a bigfoot. So, and especially you've had some contact with some very very intense things over the years. How do you know then that what you are experiencing or what you're experiencing is either related to a potential Bigfoot or a potential spirit.

26:38 You know, that's a very good question. I still puzzle as to whether a certain phenomena is actually Bigfoot sasquatch related or just generally spiritual spirit paranormal related. They do overlap in crisscross and I really sometimes I'm not certain, Like those EVP recordings in the woods. I can't say we're certain, oh that's Sasquatch, you know. I can't say that. I don't know. I mean, it could very well not be, you know. And when you do get involved in paranormal investigations, people realize in that field, the more that you're encountering supernatural activity, not only do you become aware of them, but they become aware of you. So it becomes something that kind of dogs you through the rest of your life.

27:44 You know, many of us with this experience, we will have, you know, paranormal or supernatural experiences sporadically for no rhyme or reason, you know. And it's not because our current living situation is haunted or anything like that. It's just that apparently there are certain forces in the environment that just want to make themselves known, and they remind you once in a while. So that's extremely interesting you're saying that. Also in the paranormal field, there are people that think that you can open yourself up to other things. It's very similar thinking to what people think in the big foot field. I think, yes, wow.

28:43 Yes, and I do think there is a connection between the paranormal and the bigfoot. But it's not necessarily as intertwined. Is what people think from what I've seen on the Internet and people that I've talked with on Facebook and elsewhere, that a lot of people with big Foot or sasquatch encounters had also had early histories of living in haunted houses, are experiencing paranormal things, and there seems to be an overlap that could just be a coincidence, you know, I you know, they call it the WO. I never was like big into subscribing to the wo or going heavily into that because to me, you know, my thinking was that this is an unknown species that has this uncanny ability to stay hidden and to watch us, but just this uncanny ability to not be found or not be discovered, and you know, it would take a high intelligence. Now I don't doubt for any for a moment that if

30:14 they do exist, and you know, even on my YouTube channel, I'm calling them unknowns from the forest right because I'm not I'm not saying with absolute certainty, hey, this is bigfoot. This is conforming to a lot of what people report with bigfoot. You know, you have branch and tree structures, you have a tree knocks and grunts, and big foot impressions, you know, very large foot impressions. Could this be like some kind of paranormal con game or some kind of supernatural with's pulled this guy? It's like, well, maybe it's like but when I heard that Chris Reinhart was having experiences in people stay forest, that just brought it right back home again. You know, that's that's my backyard right there.

31:16 Yeah, exactly. And some listeners are maybe going to have the thought where well, maybe they're just overlapping and each of them or hearing what the other is doing. But at the end of the day, you have to remember that it's happening on the home property as well, and to the house, and the likelihood that Chris, Chris or someone else is going to this house and slapping the side that's not happening, right, I mean. Right, yeah, No, I don't think Chris knows who I am. Chris doesn't know who I am. Exactly. What I've done with the forest walks is sometimes all offered them a generic prayer right now, I won't be in the name of Jesus, so be more like, may our heavenly Father bless you with all good things, that sort of thing, And I may get a tree knock and response, you know, so that the tree knock is an affirmation or protest. I don't know.

32:22 That that is extremely interesting. So you are okay, so let me let me work through this. So you're not it's a generic prayer, but you were asking for blessing on the Bigfoot whatever is out there. Yes, yes, I tried to. I tried to bring the most positive mentality and communications that I can because sometimes I think they're neutral that if you bring negativity and suspicion you're going to get it back, or if you bring positivity and affirmation will actually may Now this is a possibility, I don't know for sure, but they may actually respond with friendship. You know. It's a theory. It's a theory.

33:15 Yeah, it's fascinating though, And you know, I talked to people from all different walks and different viewpoints of this subject, and some people would also say, well, you know, you need to make sure that your frequency is raised up in order to have these these connections. And so I wonder if offering up that prayer is is kind of a way to do that. I don't know. There's a lot of speculation there, but it is. I've never heard of anyone else doing what you just said. That's that's very interesting. Yeah, yeah, that was sort of inspired by the fact that, you know, being being exposed to the warring style of paranormal investigation, you do bring this faith element into the situation.

34:07 You see how things happen now. I know there was a researcher named Scott Carpenter who believed they were in nepheline, which are descended from apparently fallen angels, And I'm not sure I subscribe to that view, but I can see the logic of what he's what he used to propose. I know he's departed now, but yeah, some people they subscribe to the Nephelene theory that these are giants of renowned from the ancient days. I really don't know a lot, very skeptical of that theory personally, because from what I understand the biblical history the Neffeline, they were very aggressive and violent, and these beings in our forests they are controlled now. Quite frankly, if they wanted to break into into your house, that they wanted to force open your door, it would be no problem for them. It would be like us pushing on balsa, would you know, Uh, they wanted to do you harm. It would be no problem

35:37 for them to do so, even at well aamed rock. You know, even at well Amed Rock would do you winstely. So they were aggressive and violent, it would be like no problem for them to enact this, you know, to to complete these actions. And it's like, and someone got struck by a rock in the woods. You know, no one's gonna be won't be in the news. So Bigfoot killed someone, that will be like, oh, and mysterious death someone found in the woods, you know. So yeah, I don't think they're nepuline per se, but there might be some connection somewhere down down the mine.

36:25 Another thing that Chris had brought up in his interview is that they're in that area in in other areas around the US, they're picking up on weird humming noises or hump noise. Is that anything that you've ever heard or experienced in that same area? No? Okay, gotcha? No I have any experienced any any weird. Hums ok gotcha? Gotcha? You know, going out into the forest and when you live so so nearby. And also we've we've talked about, you know, being in this subject and getting deep into it can open you up to other things. Is there ever a time where there could have been something else out there that was not Bigfoot, that was maybe more negative, but also maybe some kind of cryptid.

37:19 Yes, yes, I'm totally open to that possibility because I've been countered very negative things, you know, paranormally with those haunted house situations and actually attending certain exorcisms as a witness. You know. I I'm open to the idea that there could be other types of cryptids maybe causing some of this, or there could be a paranormal or supernatural thing going on.

38:01 That's quite possible. See, I don't know for certain. I just I think it's the safest approach to just say I really I don't know. There's all sorts of possibilities. Absolutely. Have you ever heard any other people that have had encounters or experiences in the same area. Yes, Yes, there was a friend on Facebook and she was saying that her brother, who has since died of cancer unfortunately, that her brother used to work for the Metropolitan Water District. Now where I live, it's right near a reservoir, a very large reservoir called Barkanstaed Reservoir, and it's no trespassing. This is an extremely guarded, well maintained area.

39:02 It's a water supply for the Greater Harford area, and that night there are helicopters patrolling this place, so you know, nobody can sneak in. They have infrared thermal vision and they'll find you and arrest you if you're near the reservoir. Well, he worked for the water district and there was an access road down to the reservoir, and it was part of his routine to make sure the access road was secure, you know, with chains and gates and stuff. And when he would drive down this access road, apparently he would see large human shaped entities with glowing eyes, and it scared him so much that he told his sister he was going to quit his job because he couldn't he can deal with the fact that if he has to go down this access road and see this large thing in the woods with the bright growing eyes staring at him.

40:11 There was not a situation that he was comfortable with. That is wild. I've never heard of any activity by that reservoir, but it's definitely something I will, you know, keep in mind, especially being so close to those fosts that we've been talking about before. Thank you for sharing that account. Yes, yes, and yeah I would. I would never have thought there was anything abround the reservoir. And let's face that they're monitoring by a helicopter. So if there is something abround the reservoir, whoever, you know, whatever government agency is doing the monitoring, they they know, they would know.

41:01 Some researchers have a certain goal that they keep in mind when they're they're in this field. You know, for you, is there a goal that you have in mind when you're trying to find out more information or maybe get contact with Bigfoot in this area. Yeah, my goal is to understand exactly what's going on, because I currently have like a thousand and one questions that are unanswered and I really do not understand exactly what is going on or what they are or why they are in the area. And also it's my goal that people be aware of this, you know that I don't want people to think this is you know, some crazy lunatic who mucination type thing where crazy people you know, congregate on the internet and share crazy stories. You know.

42:07 I want them to realize that this is based in reality. That's that's why I do always do the audio recordings in the camera, you know, because you know when I share that footage, when I share those recordings, it's like, see, I'm not this is a matter of someone, you know, being off the rocker. This is an external phenomena that can be recorded. I think. The public eye has slowly been turning over the years.

42:49 You know, you mentioned finding Big Fun. I think that has a lot to do with it. You know, that really put it in the public eye. And then I think as there's more and more media that gets out there, and I would say positive media, positive shows that actually highlight individuals like yourself, let them speak what they've experienced. I think that's very, very important. There's some great, great shows out there that are doing that. And hopefully one day, you know, a great example of what can happen when the public really gets behind it is with the UFO uIP field, and once enough people push, then stuff starts to get released. It maybe slowly, but it does start to get released, and just hopefully, you know, as we we both go along in our journey that you know, stuff does continue to get out there. I don't think we're at the point yet, but hopefully in the future, maybe people can contact their their congressmen are you know, represented, and be like, hey, what's with the bigfoot thing?

44:00 Who knows? That might be fun, But it's been a fun, fun chat, fun time chatting with you about an area. You know, we don't get a lot of Connecticut episodes, and so I'm always glad when someone is able to talk about this state. There is a lot of weird stuff that happens, especially in the northwest corner. Of the state. J J. I want to make sure that you were able to share everything that you'd want to share today about what you've got going on down there. Yes, yeah, I do have a YouTube channel. It's It's Unknowns from the Woods is the current title. Because I wanted to be very careful with how I frame it, you know, whether it's paranormal or natural or somewhere where there's a mixture, it's I don't know, I really don't know.

45:00 I didn't want to make grandiose claims like like I think Bigfoot found or something like that. You know, I didn't want to make grandiose claims because yes, a lot of the things I've been finding is what you would conventionally associate with bigfoot, you know, the foot impressions and the branch structures. And there was one broken tree that was impaled into the ground that a couple of feet you know, like a like a fence post, like perfectly ninety degree vertical fence posting of the tree, which is kind of hard to picture occurring in nature because okay, you know, say, say it tree breaks in nature, and it's going to impale into the ground when it falls, right, but it's going to tilt, it's going to lean off, and it's going to pay and it will they'll be like damage to the ground and it won't look like something that a road crew did, you know, it won't look intentional. But this simpale tree looked intentional and clean and deep, which is bizarre to be. And this is a tree the normal human being could not let you know.

46:27 So things like that, things like that very very strange, very bizarre. Perhaps there was a one in a million circumstances that created that trees. I have no idea, but it's something worth sharing, you know. It's also on the YouTube channel, and and my name on the YouTube channel is the Winsted Wild Band Research Organization. I have a few friends that they are helping me with digging into the history of the Winstead wild Band and perhaps that there's a continuing presence of these supposed wildmand I know that there are people in the area. There's a man in Cobrook, Norfolk area who wrote a book and the title of the book is the one who I don't want to misquote the title, but he wrote a book about the cottage at the cabin he lived in, all the experiences that he was having there, and how his family and his friends and all that didn't believe him either.

47:48 So you know, it can be a lonely thing to experience this type of thing because people will not believe you, or they'll think that you're just being strange, you know. But the more mainstream we can make this, the better I think for everyone. Like currently we have Pentagon officials on the Florida Congress talking about these unidentified flying objects, right, oh yeah, and just a couple of decades ago, that would have been unthinkable. That would have been unthinkable. People would be like no, no, no, swamp gas right right, So yeah, we have to make it more acceptable, more mainstream that people are experiencing these things and they're not all you know, what they would consider mentally or emotionally compromised.

48:46 Oh sure, is that book one that was recently released or is this an older book. It's an older book. It was released like fifteen years ago, The One Who Runs and Hides. I think it's titled, uh, you know, referring back to an old Native American name for the sasquat. I may be misquoting, just so people were something in that in that general idea, you know, the one who runs and hides. Nope, I found that as well. It looks like it's written by Chris Maarola. So yeah, maybe another good lead to follow. So thank you for bringing that up and that that could be fun so.

49:35 Well, Chris. Oh in the sorry JJ. And the other thing I wanted to ask you is is there a way that people can reach out to you if they, you know, uh have questions for you? Do you kind of just you know, you've got the YouTube channel and that's good. Uh yeah, I had the YouTube channel. They can email me at mr Medicine. That's M E R M E S S E N at hotmail dot com. And uh yeah, anyone who wants to get in contact. I did the Harvard Radio show, you know, a Saturday afternoon radio show talking about these experiences. And I've been reaching out hoping that people would be interested and hoping people would join my group and help me get to the bottom of things.

50:32 You know, it's fantastic. JJ. Will definitely need to to stay in touch. It's a it's an area of the country, as I was saying, you don't hear a lot about, but when you do hear about it, it's very interesting. But you know, thank you so much for spending some time this afternoon and for talking about us, for talking to us about the bigfoot activity in this area of Connecticut. Yes, thank you, thank you very much. Just want to take it a minute to say thanks for listening to this episode of the Big for Society podcast. JJ's story is one that stays with you, not just because of the voices in the forest or the slaps on the roof, but because it happened in a place no one thought Bigfoot could be so huge. Thanks to JJ for sharing decades of research and courageously opening up about what he and his mother experience in Barkhampstead. If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe to us on YouTube hit the bell icon so you never miss another encounter and share this one with a friend who's curious about Sasquatch or the Unexplained or Connecticut. If you're listening to us on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, and make sure you follow the show there and leave us a five star positive review and rating to help more listeners find us and to really help that algorithm over there. If you or someone you know has had a Bigfoot encounter, especially in New England or anywhere in the world, I'd love to hear from me, so please send me an email at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. And guys, there are big things happening tomorrow in Big for Society. We are going to be launching our brand new membership community

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