Blonde Sasquatch of the Bogachiel! | Washington

0:00 You're listening to BIGFA Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us, all right, Big for Society. But the privilege of talking to Jared today. Jared's an individual I got connected to he's a listener of the show and reached out regarding some experiences that he's had happened out in the Pacific Northwest. We're going to have a good chat today about that. But welcome to the show, Jared.

0:48 How are you doing, sir? Hi? Great? Thanks, Jeremiah, awesome. You know you have a really interesting background. We were talking a little bit about before the show's started. Jared, would you like to start there. I'll start off kind of with a small jaunt of my history with how I even got interested into these subjects. To begin with, I grew up in Forks, Washington, graduated from Forks High School about two thousand. I was one of the weird kids in town. You know. Everybody else was into hunting and fishing. While we enjoyed doing those things. I was one of the kids that was into music and comic books in town. So I had funny colored hair and all that fun stuff growing up.

1:44 But I was real connected great with the community. And it started when we lived out at Sappho, which is about eleven miles outside of Forks, headed towards Port Angelis off of one on one, and I remember when I was probably eight or nine years old. My sister was just born at that time, and there was a sound or something that I could hear in my bedroom that sounded like it was coming from outside. And this low hum sound ended up becoming a voice in my head and it kept telling me that I needed to go out to the uh. There's a field out back behind our house, big farmhouse, and there's a tree line with a forest. And the day before me and my friend had been out playing in the woods and I left my bike out by the crick and the creek would flow into the saw Duck River there, and I used to throw grasshoppers in the creek and wait for the

3:18 fish to come up and grab them, and i'd scoop them out of the crack with a little fishing net. So I was showing my buddy this and how to catch the fish. Out of the creek. And I had left my bike out there that night. Well later that night, when I was asleep, like I said, I was laying in bed and I heard this weird humming, low sound that turned into a voice somehow in my head, and it was telling me that I better come and get my bike because I was going to get in trouble. And I thought that was so weird. I'm like, why do I have this feeling of getting out of bed in the middle of the night and walking to the woods to go get my bike. And so I end up, I guess, sneaking out of the house. This part's a little foggy because I think I was out of it, and this is probably like two three o'clock in the morning, and I realize next thing I know, I'm standing in the middle of the field staring at the forest.

4:23 Going what the heck am I doing? And the voice kind of breaks out of my head and sound just comes back into the environment, and I freak out, and I turn around and I run back towards the house, away from the forest, and then I can't figure out what the heck was in my head telling me to come get my bike or I'd get in trouble. It was just this really strong voice that had started out as a low hum. So I feel like with all the experience and at the place that we're at now, with the Bigfoot theories and things that everyone has, that that is somehow connected to one of my first encounters with them. So I think there was some some type of mind s, feet, something was telling me to come out there. So that area specifically has had a few stories in the past, from the seventies and in the nineties of sasquatching that area crossing over Highway one oh one, and in those exact areas. So fast forward a little bit. I getting to my main encounter that I had when I was eleven or twelve

5:55 and my family went camping. We went out to wear the Bogushiel River right before it forked off and dumped into the Quilliu, which dumps into the Pacific Ocean, and me and my family. It was my dad, my mom, my sister, and myself. And then we went camping with my dad's best friend, his wife and his two sons and my dad's friend's name's Turk. My dad's name's Lyle, and so my dad and Turk they were having a good time and they were doing some fishing and some drinking, and then his boys had three wheelers. Me and my sister never been on a three wheeler before, so we were pretty excited just to get to ride with. And I think the boys were around our same ages as me and my sister at that time. So the boys fired up the three wheelers and we got on the back of them and we rode around up and down the logging roads from where we were camping that day. Now, this is like, this is probably three four o'clock in

7:26 the afternoon. It's bright daylight, and we are headed back towards camp, and we're on the back of these three wheelers and we start to go around a bend on this logging road and I'm not exactly sure. I could ask my dad where this exact spot is. I haven't been up. There in years, but the exact spot where it happened, there's a little crick that kind of dumped out into one of those big those underground metal tubing things that they use for crick water on logging roads, and then it flows through that and into this like swampy bog area.

8:16 And it was just a small, little clear cut area, but there was a big bog that just at the end of this creek, and we were coming around the bend and all of a sudden, we just smelled this horrible smell. I could tell it hit all of us at the same time, because we all kind of paused, and we're on the. Back of the three wheeler, and I. Remember one of the boys going, ah, who farted, who farted? And I could remember myself at that time going much it wasn't me, it wasn't me. And we stopped on that bridge where the creek.

8:59 Was or was flown out of the middle to being piping, and all of a sudden, it seems like the entire environment like that, the. Air, just the sound and everything just got sucked out of the environment. And I remember. Smelling that smell and then all of us looking towards like the west, and we saw this huge rock I thought it was a rock in the bog in the water, and it was like a blonde It was like golden blonde on the outside, and as it got towards the center of the rock, it turned more of a reddish auburn color. But specifically in my head, I could remember the hair how it was kind of like like four or five six inches off of this thing, just kind of wisping in the wind so gently and softly. Like that's something that like sticks out in my mind so clear, and I don't know why specifically it does, but basically, we saw this huge, hairy, blonde, furry rock in the middle of this bog, and we're all just staring at it, and all of a sudden, it starts to move. Sorry,

10:40 you got goose bumps. So this rock starts to stand. Up basically in the bog, and I'm. Staring at it so hard watching it stand up, and boy, it looked like it looked like this thing was coming out of the water, probably about about six feet out of the water. So that's not to mention how deep that water was or what it was covering. Legwise, Now it looked like a big mound, so I'm assuming that we obviously were seeing it from the back, like its back was facing towards us, and we're watching it, and I remember one of the boys, the boy that had my sister on his thing. He's like, it's a monster.

11:42 It's a monster. He starts freaking out, and he takes off with my sister on the back of the thing, and me and the other boy are still on the other quad and he starts I can't remember if the quad's got shut off, or excuse me, the three wheeler, if they were shut off, or if they were still going, because I just remembered the environment getting all weird and the air being sucked out of it, and seeing this crazy, blonde, furry rock starting to move in the water. It freaked us out. He starts to take off, and I'm stuck staring at this thing as we're driving off and around the bend to the right to get back to camp, and I'm just stuck staring at this thing because I'm trying to I'm trying to see its face and head.

12:38 I know I am, but we go around the bend and I never do get to see any facial features of this thing or anything so we pull. Up into camp. So we were probably only like half a mile quarter mile away from where our parents were camped out next to the Bogush River, and we roar into camp and dads are yelling at us to slow down. We get off the quads run up to our dads. So now we're faced in front. Of my dad and his buddy and. We're like, we just saw a monster. We just saw a monster. No really, and they're laughing because they, you know, had been drinking. And then my dad starts to be like, oh, you guys must have saw the monster of Bogie Creek.

13:32 And then my dad's buddy Turk, was like, oh, yeah, do you remember that movie Bogging Creek, Bogie Creek, That's what you guys saw. So they start teasing us about seeing what we saw at that moment. And again, the first thing that we encountered was the smell before anything. Then it was the the whole environment getting completely strange and weird, which really stands out to me, and then seeing the damn golden furry rock that was moving and starting to stand up. So anyway, we try to tell our dads about this. I'm not one hundred percent sure of what we were saying.

14:21 It was a little chaotic at that point. But basically we get settled down and then I remember we start building the campfire for the night, and then my dad and Turk get into a side talk after teasing us about seeing the Bogey Creek monster. They start talking about a time up outside of Port Angelis at a place called Happy Lake, which is I'm not sure if it's closer to Lake Crescent or if it's over my Hurricane Ridgemore. I'm not a hundred percent sure. It's a very very small, little fishing hole lake, you know.

15:07 And so my dad and his best friend when they were teenagers or in their early twenties start so this would have been in the in the late seventies early eighties, right before I was born. Him and his buddy Turk were up camping and hiking out at Happy Lake and my dad and he specifically remember coming over the ridge just to where they. Could look down at the valley where the lake. Was, and they saw this huge black thing that was crouching down by the lake, and it stood up and took off and walked into the wood line. And my dad was like the fact that I I could look down into the valley and across the lake. To see this thing stand up and walk is what really threw them off. So for years he in Turk thought that it was a bear that stood up and walked into the woods. That's what they told themselves for years. But I think my dad in Turky, they knew that they existed.

16:27 They just didn't want to give in to the to the hype of it all, so they told themselves it was a black bear. So it was interesting to learn that same night that the kids and I had seen that. Thing, that our dads had an. Experience with them that they denied completely. So now here's here's the scariest part of my encounter. So now it's evening at camp, and you know, we as kids, you just kind of move on from things, I guess, especially if your parents downplay everything. And I remember my mom, my dad, myself, and my sister were camping in a tent.

17:25 And h Turk, his wife and. His two boys had a camper, and so they were in their camper and we were in our tent. And I have no idea what time at night it was, but it was in the middle of the evening, and I remember waking up to hearing. So this is the evening time, middle of the night. I remember waking up to hearing my mom whisper to my dad wile wile, and I'm like, oh God, what's going on? And as soon as I hear my mom saying that, I can hear rummaging around outside, like I could just hear like like.

18:18 What like a limb being thrown and hitting the ground. Or you know, just debris hitting the ground from outside. Nothing, nothing's hitting the tent, but I could hear things outside of the tent, so I could hear my mom. She's telling my dad to wake up, and he's not waking up yet, and I can I can tell my mom's freaked out, and so that already makes me freaked out as a kid. My sister's sound asleep, my dad's snoring super loud, and then all of a sudden, I hear this low pitch A god, this low pitch sound that kind of starts. I want to make the noise, but I know I can't make the noise, so I'll save everybody's ears. But it starts as a low down, winding up pitch noise, and it just revs up in three different levels like it went and then and then the last series of sound is not even humanly possible, and it just shook and vibrated my body and I'm freaking out.

19:50 And then at that point, my mom basically sits up and it's like while something's outside, something's outside, and she's and trying to get my dad awake. My sisters still can't wake up. My dad's finally starting to stir too. He's like what what And she's like, there's something outside lysle And my Dad's like what And she's like, you didn't hear that? And he's like, it's just elk, It's just elk. And I don't know. I've never I've heard some bugle, and that can be kind of creepy, especially if you're nearby or close or not expecting an elk to bugle. But this was no elk. This this sound made made everything around us vibrate. It felt like like I just had this innate, paranoid, paralyzing fear in my whole body. What happened? And I'm just traumatized and I can't remember exactly. This is the part that's so strange.

21:04 We're hearing all the all this commotion outside there's this three parts how that happened and shook us all. My dad, it refuses to get out of the tent. He's at my mom. He's like, it's just out, it's just out. But he won't get out of the tent to go look or scare it up. She's like, my mom, that's what she said. She was like, go scare it off, then get him out of here. He wouldn't. He wouldn't get out of bed. So it seems like we were all in this paralyzing fear. My dad won't get out, he's barely even awake, he's out of it. My sister's still passed out and asleep during all of this commotion, and my mom and I are freaking out, and I'm just sitting there paranoid. Oh so here's here's the other stringing part. When all that commotion was going on, I just I just felt like I couldn't move. I felt paralyzed.

22:15 And ah, sorry, it's. Making my heart beat really fast. So and I'm trying to recall everything because this is the part of my story that it gets really weird because we're stuck in the middle of all this commotion and my mom's freaking out and this, and this is why you know you don't forget things like this when when your mom and dad are in some kind of crisis and you're a child and you're just like, what is going on? They can't handle it for you. So I remember my dad not getting up. He didn't get up, he didn't get out of the tent, and I remember the next thing I remember is that we're back asleep. So it went from all this crazy commotion and the howl that had paralyzed me and freaked me out, and my mom's freaking out, trying to get my dad to get out of the tent to go scare off whatever's outside. My dad won't get out of the tent. My sister's not moving or making the noise or doing anything. She's just asleep as far as I know and remember, And all of a sudden,

23:47 like it's daytime, Like we went from where we were totally. Panicking and having. A crisis to where the next thing I know, it's morning. So I don't know if some type of weird shock thing happened to me or what, but there's there's parts that I cannot recall after that terrifying hell and the noises going on outside of the tent, and my mom freaked out inside the tent. So oh oh, I do remember the dogs barking right right when I woke up.

24:30 I can hear they had two dogs, and two dogs were barking, and then they just stopped barking and it got real silent. Before the all the commotion happened outside the tent and right before the howl and then so the next thing I remember is like, I wake up and we are the lights come through the side of the tent. You could hear the river roaring next to us. And I get up and I see my Dad's not in bed, but my mom and my sister are still asleep.

25:12 So the tent doors halfway unzipped, and I crawled outside the tent and I see my dad and he's standing over about thirty forty feet away from where the tent is, and he's standing over by the sandbar next to the Bogasho River in this bend where we were camped at, and he's standing staring down at this spot in the sandbar, and I rummage over there and my dad looks up and he sees me standing by the tent and he's like, come here, come here, and he kind of does the two finger wave come over here thing, and I walk over there and he bends over and he looks at me with these big eyes, and my dad and he looks at me and he says, don't you tell your mother or sister, and he points.

26:11 Down at the ground. And on the ground there is one single, huge footprint in the sand. Here's the other weird thing that I don't get. It seems like there should have been more than one footprint in the sand from like the area, because there wasn't a lot of trees in that area. Right there or anything. But this footprint was. You know, again, I was really young. So I'm guesstimating how big the footprint really was, but it was obviously a sasquatch footprint, a big footprint.

26:58 And you know, my dad wasn't the k the guy to like make up that kind of stuff. He's you know, my dad's been a longer in the woods for forty some years now, for as long as I've been alive, and he's just not creative enough to do that type of stuff. So I know my dad wasn't making it up. So I don't feel like my dad put the footprint there or anything to freak us out, But it's just strange that there was only one footprint in an area that should probably at least had two or three footprints around before the river rock covered the ground again. So I always thought that that was very strange. So my entire encounter from out in Forks when I was growing up was very, very strange. To begin with. I had a lot of the mind speak stuff, especially when I lived closer to the woods. Always seemed like something was trying to get my attention. When I was younger out out in the woods, when you were a kid by yourself.

28:19 I've had some paranormal things happen out in Forks. That's what kind of got me started on my life's journey to study and look into all of that for several years. Until I moved back up to Oregon. In two thousand and nine. I moved back to Portland from Dallas, Texas. I didn't have any experiences in Texas with any of that type of stuff, unfortunately, but I was pretty much in the city most of the time. But there was a time in Pennsylvania. I lived in an area of Pennsylvania after high school and I.

29:03 Don't know if you're familiar with. It was a town called El Vira, and it was one of those towns that during World War Two they kind of demolished or got rid of for whatever reason. Then they installed a bunch of like bunkers out there. It's actually behind alan Wood State Prison, which is the famous prison in Pennsylvania that had like some of the mafia members and everything in it. And so this prison, behind this prison, allan Wood State Prison, is this big, sprawling field and then next to that is this old one of the oldest probably cemetery graveyards I've ever seen.

29:54 It had. It had grades from the early eight teen hundreds and everything, and so it's just this one single long road. So me and my family we took a class on so since we had so many strange things between us in our lives, me and my family, just to kind of cut things short, we took a class at Susquehanna University on paranormal research one year. It was like two thousand and two. It was at the time when ghost Hunters show on TV was just becoming a thing an MTV sphere.

30:36 And then my ghost hunting group that I was a part of in Pennsylvania. We worked with some of that stuff ourselves with Eastern State Penitentiary. We're back there looking at the old bunkers. So this town is called Elviirah, and it's right outside of Elam's Port, which is a small Amish community. You gotta know that it was pretty crazy going from Forks, Washington and then moving to Pennsylvania in the middle of Amish country. I went from one segregated community to the other. That's why I rushed back and moved to Seattle in between those times, because I needed some of the city. But what was I saying? Oh, Elvirah, that's right. So we're back, me and my mom my stepdad. Sorry, me and my mom my stepdad. And I think my sister was there. I can't remember. I'll have to ask if Sissy was there or not, but she or we were back in the bunkers. Oh my gosh, they were across so it was like the fourth or fifth bunker

32:09 back from across where the cemetery was. And of course there was a bunch of spray paint and everything on the ground and around the walls of the old cemetery where people had like you know, written satanic things and all this kind of stuff on the walls, and so it was already creepy. And then you would walk into these big concrete dome bunkers that were in the back of the for the woods, and some of them were locked. I guess they sell some of them off for people to use as storage. And they were on the I think they were on the game lands back there too, a part of Pennsylvania. Anyway, the point I'm trying to make is we are investigating and kind of just seeing what we can see in these old bunkers. They're all spray painted. Most of them are locked or you can't get into, but there was one that didn't have a lock on the door, and they had these big metal doors. Well, we saw one that was open, and we opened it up a little bit more and we peeked in and we went back into this concrete bunker. And when you stand in the center of these things, sound just bounces off of everything and everywhere, So it sounds really cool.

33:35 If you do any type of chanting or singing or just being fun. Everything's echo in, everything's bouncing around. Great place to do investigations because it's really dark. So we did a few of those me and my friends after this, but the time that it was the middle of the day, this afternoon, walking to the bunker and there's a baby fonnd deer that was just tore up. It looked like somebody It looked basically what I saw. It looked like three or four dudes grabbed a baby deer and ripped it apart, which is not possible. But at that time, with all the things in the environment being like you know, with the Titanic graffiti and everything around, I was thinking that some real sick people mutilated this baby deer and left it in one of these bunkers. Now fast forward, so this is like two thousand two, two thousand and three when that happened. Fast forward several years later, after also hearing stories from that area too, I think that some type of cryptid animal, whether it be sasquatch or

35:09 a dog man or because I am a firm believer in all of this for sure, but I know for sure that or I don't know for sure, but I know in my heart that that was a cryptid encounter somehow, because there's no way that this deer was completely mangled. And the other thing is that we found very strange is that there was no bugs either, Like it was really hot in Pennsylvania, and I know it was the summertime, so it was hot and humid, but there.

35:49 Was no like maggots. There was no flies, There was not any kind of like the stuff you normally see with when something's been left out to sit. There just isn't one any of that, but it was. But there was no like blood in the concrete bunker. So I don't believe that the deer was actually killed in the bunker, but it was tore up in pieces. I remember the ribs being ripped open. I remember the hind quarters looked looked like it was tore off, and and me and my stepdad and my mom, we just cannot figure out how how that happened to something.

36:38 And you know, we we chalked it up at the time too, you know, like cultish occult behavior in the woods by weird people. But now now that we've had some time to digest and learn about cryptids, especially in those areas, I believe I believe some kind of bigfoot or something got a hold of that deer and that's what ripped it apart. Because there's a lot of strange things around it too. There seems to be a lot of paranormal activity around encounters, whether it be a UFO encounter sasquatch.

37:22 Yeah. So, my goodness, you have lived through a ton. No, that was I mean, you've got some incredible accounts that you lived through. I have a lot of questions. Are a lot of things we can go over? Yeah? So are you saying then that the Salvira, Pennsylvania area where there are stories then of other encounters with Bigfoot or maybe others? Dig? Yes? Yes, And I was actually hoping or thinking that you might have heard some or been familiar with some from that area too. I'm not sure, but I do believe the BRFO had had some stuff from that area out there, the allan Wood, Pennsylvania area.

38:09 Gotcha, gotcha, I'll have to well, I'll have to look into that. I haven't gotten anything personally. I'm looking at my personal map on the website, but I wouldn't be surprised to look up, Yeah, THEFROL website and check check that out for sure. Were you also getting mind speak interactions out in Pennsylvania or was just just a Washington thing? Well, I think it happened more to me when I was younger. To be honest, I think I think I distracted myself from a lot of that type of stuff when I was when when I got older as a teenager, you know, and I don't want to put it like a whole bunch of credence into this, but you know, you meet people in the paranormal communities, and I was just a stickler for like, we got to tell the truth about this stuff. We got to be honest. You know, I don't want to do this the hokey thing. Like I was, I was kind of frustrated with people not taking it serious enough because of some of the experiences I've had, and I'm like, this is serious stuff, this is really going on. And so as a kid, I know I had that stuff happen to me a lot, a lot more as I got older, I kind of I kind of shied away from it, even though I know that I was what people would consider sensitive, still

39:39 still am to this day. But it's really easy for me to get hyper focused on it, and then then you're getting anxiety and all these other things all the time. So I try to, I try to, I try to not focus in on it, but yeah, i' believe that that mind speak was was something that came to me at an early age. A lot of it, I believe is because of the area that I grew up in. I will tell you that the out in Forks on the Olympic Peninsula is a strange place. You know, I grew up there. I thought, you know a lot of that stuff was normal because.

40:24 Of growing up there. But yeah, it's a lot of strange paranormal type stuff. And and some listeners are going to be like, oh yeah, Twilight right right, No, it's it's it's for real, like this, take that whole stuff out of there, because there are actual, really intense things that I've heard that go on in that community for sure. Now now, I don't want anybody to internet quote me or anything on this, but I did. But it might be where somebody looked you didn't do. I did hear that at some point, either after the Second World War until the seventies that the Navy, I can't remember if it was the Navy or the Air Force, but they used to blast extreme low frequencies across the Olympic Peninsula.

41:20 I don't know what the purpose was for, and I don't know why but I remember just reading because I'd always go back and research and try to figure out what was going on in that area to make any of this stuff happen. And so I found it interesting that they were subsonically blasting extreme low frequencies across the peninsula for several decades. So yeah, that's kind of weird and I'm not sure why or what, but yeah, it'd be interesting to learn more about that. Yeah, if anyone can do some research on that, feel free to put it in the comments on YouTube. It'd be interesting to see what can be found.

42:03 Yeah, because I I believe there's a correlation between that and paranormal activity. So even when I was younger, I was like, if we could just build this this device that could generate electromagnetic fields, you know, I totally went all Ghostbusters since that was my favorite movie as a kid. Too. So many weird things. I mean, in the big Foot community we have. It's it's no question that those low frequency you know, yeah, it's it's connected to big food for sure. Yeah. Yeah, I have definitely questions about you know, going back to your your interactions and forks. So when you saw the one that was kind of golden blonde in reddish auburn.

42:55 How far away from you were? How far away from that were you? It was? It was like forty yards at the furthest It wasn't that far. Yeah, that's really not that's like a. And I guess, like my perception because of how wide, you know, I need to say how wide this thing was, because that's the other thing that that stuck out in my mind, like like the hair thing, like that's I don't know why I was so hyper focused on the hair blowing in the wind, but you know, I thought it was a furry rock. I literally thought I was looking at a furry rock that was like something from like Jim Henson's you know, closet somewhere, like one of the reject muppets like that. That's what it looked like to me. It was so weird. But then when it started to stand up and move, we I mean that my heart sunk. But I was just enamored and I was just I just was staring, and I remember staring, and I really wish that the kid didn't I wish he froze up and didn't take off on the three wheeler because I was on the back of it just holding on to him, you know.

44:16 And we'd only. Stopped there for like thirty forty seconds before we realized what was going on. And the whole reason we stopped was because the smell was so strong and powerful. We were just you know, gag but also laughing and being funny about it, and then it just went from this fun, happy moment to instant dread and fear. So yeah, it's in. A roller coaster of emotions, for sure. Absolutely. So alongside the Bogushield River is this is this because if you look on map and I'm you know, I'm not familiar with the area, but it looks like it turns into the the Quill River.

45:08 Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then the Quili River dumps into the Pacific Ocean. Yeah. Okay, that's why Forks is called Forks because the saw Duck, the Clawwall, and the Bogashiel River all meet to the the three rivers form the Quilli and then they dump into the ocean. Okay, gotcha, that that makes sense. So was it before it turns into that river or is it like closer down too? So it's it was closer to where it turns into the quilliuth Okay, because I remember we drove towards La Push actually to get out to the spot, so heading down that way, not that we went towards the Push.

45:50 We obviously tricked a little bit for their south after that. But I'm going to ask my dad. I'm going to get the spot, and I I forgot to ask him before I called you, h But I've been wanting to get this this information. You know, for myself, I want to go back out there. I don't. I don't get to make it back home as often as i'd like to. I go up there and visit as often as I can. I've heard that there's a lot of stuff that goes on around Maura Campground, and I was curious if it was over there, but it sounds like it's a different Yeah. Yeah. Another good one is where the the tribal police guy and he watched the sasquatch cross right over in front of where the fish hatchery used to be. I mean, it's kind of funny to think about because when you go into the Push, I mean, it's so small, it's such a small area, and it's just funny to me.

46:50 Every time that I drive past that part, I'm like, Oh, are we going to see big footwalk across the street here because of his encounter, you know, and he's been on a few TV shows or whatever. Exactly Yep, I know exactly. So I just think it's funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's that area. Yeah, yeah, More Beach, Ruby Beach. That's awesome. So that the day after you guys had the tent experience, Yeah, did you get any stories from uh, Turk's family at all about what the experience? That's right, right, I'm glad you asked. No, So, as far as I know, they and they remember. So here's the thing. About five years ago, I brought this up to one of Turk's boys. I say, hey, do you happen to remember He's like, I do remember that.

47:49 He's like, I forgot about that. And then, uh, but no, they didn't have any experience that I know of. And you know, after my dad told me not to say anything to my sister and my mom about the footprint that was in the sand and stuff, and he's telling me not to say anything to him because it would freak him out or whatever. You know that. I I don't know if anything was said about it the next. Day or not. I can't remember that I really can't remember it. I can't remember why how we went from total chaos to being asleep again, almost like shock, I guess, you know.

48:38 I've never experienced it time loss quite like that, you know. And the other time, absolutely does everyone in your family that was there does, does their story line up with yours? How it's like chaos and it goes to sunlight. Right, So my sister remembers the first part. She will confirm that we saw the furry rock starting to stand up, and we freaked out and went to camp and told our dads about it. She she knows my part, you know, she knows the part of the story where that me and mom experience. And I will say that my mom does remember, but she wants to keep saying that it's that No, it must have been elk. Your dad said it was elk type thing. But Jeremiah, we never went camping again after that as a family. Never after that night, we never did anything like that again. And we grew up in probably one of the best areas for that type of stuff, especially in the summer. So it did something, you know, because yeah, we never went camping as a family ever again. And this is when I was twelve between eleven twelve.

50:07 So yeah, what's what's the last when's the last time you talked to your dad about it? Last time I talked to my dad about it? Well, he was here about a month month and a half ago and we were actually I got my dad Now, he's not into watching this stuff really, so he's not about it. I did bring it up. I brought it up then to him. I said, yeah, I remember the time when we went camping we had the big foot thing. And he's like, oh, yeah, I remember you kids were freaking out. That's all he said about that. But the footprint thing is what I need to groll him on next.

50:50 And I'll do that. I'll do that. I'll talk to him about that because because I just I just broke my dad into like talking about this stuff, right, because he's been he's you know, he's been in the woods for forty some years and now he's doing that regressive thought stuff now where he's like, well, hey I thought something was this, but maybe it was more tied than this. Now he's starting to get there, so he's starting to connect his weird experiences that he's had. You know. But like I said, my dad's not like super super creative.

51:32 I guess I would say he can't make his stories up, is what I'm saying. And he's the reason that I even got into this stuff to begin with because his dad grew up in Port Angelis. My dad grew up in Port Angelis, and the house that my dad grew up in was heavily haunted. We're talking full body apparitions, things moving on the walls, and pianos playing haunted. So I wouldn't even stay the night or visit my grandpa's house for any longer than an hour back back then, just because my dad's stories freaked me out about his house in.

52:19 Yeah. Well, and and my aunt, his sister, and and my grandpa confirm it, you know, and their stories or you know, you know you ever have a ghost show, those are some good ones too. That's but that's what got me going into this stuff is, you know, the encounters between myself and my dad. My mom likes all this type of stuff, like, she likes to listen and watch the ghost shows somewhat everything, But when you try to get her involved or try to get her to do an investigation, she wants nothing to do with it, you know, She's like, no, no, no, no.

53:01 I've got enough. Oh yeah, it's way it's I mean that stuff is way different once you cross that line. Even with that, you cross the line and it's then you're potentially bringing it home. Yeah, it's so any more questions because I yes, absolutely, because I know I'm missing stuff. Going back to when you were in Sappho, Washington. Uh so was that pretty close to the Saldak River? Then that is right alongside the Salduck River, So I can tell you. So the house that I grew up in, it was known as the Rickson Homestead, and my mom grew up there. She was raised at that house when she was a kid. And it's about eleven miles outside of Forbes, headed towards Port Angelis. So my mom grew up there, big farmhouse.

54:01 Big barn, everything. And she said that she never remembers having any like creepy, weird paranormal stuff happening to her when she was younger out there, but she did say that that had changed by the time we had moved out there. So my mom grew up out there, and then we lived in town, and then we had a small house. In town, and then my dad was logging. Quite a bit outside of town, so it was just a little bit closer for him for work. So we had a chance to rent this house out for ourselves, the same house that my mom grew up in. Beautiful piece of property. If you look it up on the internet, it's gorgeous. It's Rickson Road, right off a highway one on one, and you'll see I think it's a bed and breakfast. Now, every time I try to go out there, it's always closed down or nobody's there to go see it again. But I spent about three years of my young life out there, and that's where the mind speak thing happened to me. I had an encounter right near the saw Duck River. There's a creek that dumps right into the saw Duck River alongside of that house. About only two three hundred feet away from the house is the creek. So there, and there's this old, old concrete

55:34 bridge from like the early nineteen hundreds that was built there. It's all roped or fenced off now you can't drive up that road anymore. But I actually had my first paranormal seen an apparition, two apparitions, two little boys standing on the opposite side of that bridge. One time when I was I would go down to the crag because right before the river beavers had built the dam under the bridge. The bridge covered the crick but then alongside the creek, about another fifty feet away, was the actual Saldark River. So I would go down to the creek and i'd break up the dam with my foot, and then i'd climbed back up to the top of the bridge and watched the beavers fix and rebuild the dam.

56:27 And one day I. Was down there, middle of the day, daytime, and I broke up the dam, and I crawled back up the embankment, stepped back up onto the bridge, and I was looking over the edge of the bridge, and then all of a sudden, I just I got a weird feeling, and I looked to my left and standing there two little boys, and I got excited. I was probably eight or nine at this time, and I got excited because there was no other kids out there. I mean, I had to play by myself in the woods all the time, so I was excited that there was just anybody, any other kids out there. So I was like, and I don't remember seeing them say anything, but I just remember again in my mind hearing come play with us, and they turned around and they ran into the woods, and I said, oh, wait up. And you know, when I was a kid, I was I was kind of a chunky kid, not so much anymore, but when.

57:32 I was younger, I was a little dough boy. And so I remember I had some shorts on and my sandals, and I'm running through the sticker bushes and the twigs, trying to catch up. And I can hear these two boys running, but I can't see them anymore, but I could hear them laughing, and I'm like, hey, guys, wait up, wait up. And next thing I know, I don't hear see anything, and I in the middle of like the sticker bushes, like what the heck? And then I can hear my mom yelling for me for dinner time. And so I ran all the way back to the house, or got to the house. And my mom does remember this, and she will confirmed this one that I came into the house just so excited and happy because I had found two kids to play with. But they were too fast.

58:28 They got away from me. They were just too fast. I told my mom, and she thought I was weird as hell. She's like, there's nothing out there. Thought she thought at that time that I had made that story up. And then fast forward till my senior year of high school. I took a buddy out there, and I hadn't been out there since, uh, you know, since we had lived out there. And I took a friend of mine out there during October in the fall, and I started telling them about the beaver is, like how I would go break up the dam and then come back up and watch the beavers rebuild it. Well, as I was telling him that story, I totally remembered that encounter of seeing the two ghosts little boys at the other side of the thing, and like this, you know, the story came back to me, and then I remember telling my buddy, and then it freaked my buddy out. So we drove to my mom's house. We drove into town and went and asked my mom. I was like, mom, mo, Mom, do you remember when I was a kid, And she's like, yeah, I do remember that. I thought you were just blowing smoke, but what yeah, just a lot of paranormal stuff.

59:39 Absolutely, What type of clothing were they wearing? So that yeah, so that's something I specifically remember too. They were wearing like a polo, these polo collared shirts right, like, uh, what are those ones that have like little animals on the like like somehow like the crocodiles, like a polo. Yeah, like a shirt, yeah, yeah, yeah stuff like so eighties, well yeah, it was more like forties, fifties or fifty style. I guess polo cut suret. Yeah, it was like fifties sixties because it and it had this turk like one shirt had a turquoise in white stripes, like a big thick stripe of turquoise and white across it, like it had three stripes, like it went white turquoise.

1:00:33 White like that. But they had polo polo, excuse me, collars, so in jeans, dark denim jeans. I don't remember shoes. I just remembered that they were like the the one boy was my age. That one boy was like nine or ten, and the other boy was like six or seven, and they were just two little kids standing there and all I don't remember. I don't remember seeing their mouths move. I just heard come play with us. And they literally turned around and both ran into the woods at the same time, at the same speed. And then they went through the sticker bush and then I tried to go through there too, and I was just getting all hung up by all the other bushes and twigs that are whacking me as I'm trying to crawl through this bush to catch up with these kids. And I remember as I was trying to come up behind them, I can hear laughter, like like just kids laughing, and then it just was nothing, and then it just faded to nothing. And then I'm standing in the middle of the sticker bushes.

1:01:50 Like where'd they go? Where'd they go? You know? And to my left is the saw Duk River running along side of me. I'm literally running alongside saw Duck River chasing these kids. And I find it also interesting because it's across there's a there's a crossways there because I told you that the creek dumps out into the saw Duck River right there too, and so that that just makes me think of the constant energy source that's constantly going on there, you know, the river and the creek just creating a lot of energy. So I think that has a lot to do with stuff too, these natural energy spots.

1:02:34 Yes, I agree with you one hundred percent. The other weird thing from your stories. Is that so you have two different times, two different times when you have something mind that is well that and it's trying to get you to go somewhere. Yes, yes, yeah, I didn't even connect that. Yeah. Yeah, the Woods wanted me and I've always felt that, Jeremiah, I tell you what. Okay, Okay, I grew up. I grew up there in Forks. I wanted nothing to do with Forks when I was there for the most part. Now I now know. Don't get me wrong. I did football, I played sports. I was a good kid in school.

1:03:20 I did all the right things. I was a big part of my community, big ties to the community. It's a small community. So and I did a lot of stuff for for the American Diabetes Association. Dang it, side mission got me. That's no problem. I do have another question about Sapho. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you'd mentioned that that you're what you experienced in staff like there are other people that have also had big foot encounters around one oh one in Sapho as well. Mm hmmmm. Mary Clark Road is I don't know if. You heard of that.

1:04:01 I don't think so. There's there's there's a lot of action near Highway one oh one in the Mary Clark Road. Uh, there's an area called the A Road up in Forks, which is a road that leads up into several series of different logging roads. And there's actually a story about a different type of cryptid that I never experienced anything, but I've heard stories from close friends of mine. Three of my friends experienced. They call it deer monkey. Is a yeah, yeah, I know.

1:04:44 I didn't know if. I wanted to bring it up. No, go ahead, go ahead, I'm. Going to go there. I'm gonna go there. Okay. I heard about this story when I was in high school. So this is like nineteen ninety eight or ninety nine, and my body is, who knows. They were probably drinking and smoking going up the A Road to party, but they freaked out because they encountered something that ran right in front of them and they almost hit this animal. But they called it deer monkey. And I'm like, deer monkey, what the heck? And so from what I know, my friend Tasha, she had told me about it first, and she's like, yeah, it's like this weird kangaroo. So that's that's the number one. It's kind of weird because I heard this story before I knew about certain things, and now that I know certain things that I can't unlearn, it makes more sense to what it might have been, I guess anyway, So she said it was like it had like a kangaroo style body with a long thick tail, but the hair was shaggy on the tail, right, so hair was hanging off the tail. It had the weird hawks, like the like the dog legs or whatever you would

1:06:16 like the King of Aru style body, but it had a snout and antlers like a deer. There's a two point, she said. But it had like arms that were, like she said, kind of like a like a dinosaur's arms, like like crouched up, kind of like a I don't know, like in Jurassic Park like they. Have on there. That's how she described this animal to me, right, So so she told me this story. So then I had to ask the other two boys that she was with if they had it, and then my buddy Pek he did.

1:06:57 He admitted, He's like. Yeah, dude, it was weird. It was the weirdest thing I'd ever seen. It moved weird. Oh that was the other thing. The color of it was like a deer, like a deer's hair. That was another reason I guess why they called it deer monkey. But it was up on two legs and it had this weird long tail thing, and it just sounds totally out of left field, like I had never ever heard of anything. Here's the interesting thing. After I had finally decided to email you and talk to the story, I went to chat GPT just to see if there was any if it could gather information better than I could about deer monkey, because it just stuck out my mind to bring it up. And I asked chat GPT and it did find an encounter about another person's encounter about this deer monkey thing out there no way, so there is. Yeah, so there is an encounter from somebody that told part of the same story. And I'm not sure if it was one of the people from that night.

1:08:06 But here's the other thing. There's two people that have passed away that that had also encountered this thing. Sounds like like, you know, if I was thinking outside the box or whatever, I would, I would think, oh, that sounds like some Native American whin to go type, you know, spearfinger type creature, like a kangaroo with antlers and a long shaggy tail. Right. That's that's really strange. Were you able to find that actual encounter, because sometimes when you put when you ask stuff and chat GBT, it'll make stuff up that it's looking for.

1:08:47 Okay, So so let me see if I could grab my phone and see if I could recall that that conversation I had with it, because it said that I thought it gave me a resource from where it polled. Okay, that's cool, yeah, nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yea yeah, cool, cool. Cool. My brain gets a little scattered on some of this stuff. But but but I can answer specific questions. You're good, You're good. I have I have probably about one more question. You mentioned that so in sappho you had mentioned Mary Clark Roads. So is there a lot of activity that happens on that road then, or so there's just.

1:09:31 A ton of activity that happens in that general sense. So I'll tell you this from about the right before the clay Lock area on South one oh one Highway one on one till about Lake Crescent area and just before Lake Crescent, that whole area, it's just it has it has a certain feeling. And I always told, like I always told my wife and everything. I was always like, you can feel when you get there, like I know when I'm home because I can feel it. And it was always just this weird thing. And then I was talking to my mom and she she does it too, she knows what I was talking about. She's like, yeah, no, there's a vibe. There's a vibe definitely when you get into a certain locations. One of my favorite so the Mary Clark Road. I don't have any specific stories. I just know from people on other shows talking about it and I'm like, oh, yeah, that's up by the Mary.

1:10:38 Clark Oh gotcha, Okay, cool, cool, cool? Yeah. And then. What was the other Oh, oil City Road just before the whole Rainforest as you're heading south headed towards Aberdeen, right before the whole rainforest there in clay Lock, the Oil City Road. Like, one of my favorite. Bigfoot encounters is of the tow truck driver in the seventies who was picking a guy up right there at the top of that hill and Cottonwood Campgrounds, an area where a lot of people have because that's on Oil City Road right there. But that back in the seventies, there was a tay truck driver guy who was it was either the tow truck driver or the truck driver waiting for a toe, one of the two, and he was stuck up on that hill in the middle of winter waiting for the toe, or the tow guy was waiting for a truck. He basically saw a sasquatch, heard something, saw a sasquatch looking at him.

1:11:44 In his. Truck cab, and he shot it with like a three fifty seven in the face and it took off into the woods running. That's a pretty popular story. You might recall that one somewhere too, And that's like just south to town, right outside of town. Wow, I've never heard that one. That's that's wild though. I'll have to get out to that one. It's yeah, yeah, So I think the keywords are probably Oil City Road, Highway one on one. Okay, late seventies, I believe it was like seventy eight, seventy nine. I think, so between seventy six and seventy nine, i'd say. So.

1:12:28 It's just it's just such a good story. I've been listening to your show probably for the last three forty years, so. I appreciate that. Thank you. Well, yeah, no, I appreciate it because I like. I like that style. I like it you're able to just ask folks to let let them run with it. Even though I feel like I've stuttered and stambled all over the place today, I just. Well, I think it's important for individuals to be able to get the full story out, yeah, and just to be able to run with it. Most people have never gotten that chance, and that can really lead into some interesting conversations. But Jared, I just want to say thank you so much for chatting today. I want to make sure that you were able to share everything that you'd wanted to share on the show today.

1:13:21 Yeah, I mean, I do want to say this to everyone listening. It is important, It is super important that we all take this stuff a little bit more serious and we try to figure out what is going on and why these encounters are happening on a more on a larger basis than they were before. Now. I know the Internet has opened up an avenue for people to tell their stories and get their opinions out there, but I feel like it's really important and that we're at a pinnacle of time. This information gets out there in a legitimate way where people aren't laughed at or pointed fingers at because that's what kept me away from all this for a long time, even though it's been my entire life. For the most part, the paranormal stuff has been a part of my life since I was a kid, and I didn't ask for it. It just came to me.

1:14:31 And it is important that we give a little. More credence and to people's encounters, you know, be legitimate, be truthful, be honest, you know, like I like, if I didn't remember, I didn't try to fill in the gaps. I just say I can't remember, you know what I mean. So, yeah, I agree with you, Jared, with that right now, this is I think this is a very important time for people to reach out with what they've experienced. And if people do want to do that, you're more than welcome to You can send me an email Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com, and I will respond to you in a few days because there's a lot going on in that email, but I will get back in touch with you. But Jared, thank you so much for coming on the show. Is great chatting with you and you know, keep us in the loop if if you hear anything else out there. And it's been a real privilege talking to you.

1:15:25 Today, you too, thank you. I do head up in that area a few times a year or so If I have anything new for you, I will certainly get in touch. Thank you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society Podcast. Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth is often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to subscribe to the channel on YouTube hit the bell so you don't miss the next episode, and share this with a friend who's into mysteries, monsters or the unexplained. And if you're listening to us on Spotify, Apple Podcast, please follow the show there and leave us a five star positive review because all that helps more people discover the show.

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