Oct. 9, 2025

Blonde Sasquatch of the Bogachiel! | Washington

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Season 1

What happens when a young boy growing up outside Forks, Washington hears a voice in his head in the middle of the night — and finds himself standing alone in a field staring at the forest? In this bone-chilling episode, we speak with Jared, a lifelong experiencer from the Pacific Northwest whose encounters span decades and states. From a golden-furred Sasquatch rising from a swamp near the Bogachiel River, to a tent-shaking midnight howl that paralyzed his family, and a massive footprint his father swore him to secrecy over — this story will haunt you. You’ll also hear about an elk carcass found mutilated in a bunker in Pennsylvania, whispers from childlike apparitions near the Sol Duc, and an elusive “deer-monkey” creature in the backwoods of Forks. This isn’t fiction. It’s Jared’s life. And it may just change how you see the woods forever.

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You're listening to BIGFA Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, Big for Society. But

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the privilege of talking to Jared today. Jared's an individual

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I got connected to he's a listener of the show

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and reached out regarding some experiences that he's had happened

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out in the Pacific Northwest. We're going to have a

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good chat today about that. But welcome to the show, Jared.

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How are you doing, sir?

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Hi? Great?

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Thanks, Jeremiah, awesome. You know you have a really interesting background.

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We were talking a little bit about before the show's started. Jared,

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would you like to start there.

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I'll start off kind of with a small jaunt of

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my history with how I even got interested into these subjects.

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To begin with, I grew up in Forks, Washington, graduated

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from Forks High School about two thousand. I was one

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of the weird kids in town.

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You know.

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Everybody else was into hunting and fishing. While we enjoyed

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doing those things. I was one of the kids that

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was into music and comic books in town. So I

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had funny colored hair and all that fun stuff growing up.

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But I was real connected great with the community. And

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it started when we lived out at Sappho, which is

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about eleven miles outside of Forks, headed towards Port Angelis

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off of one on one, and I remember when I

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was probably eight or nine years old. My sister was

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just born at that time, and there was a sound

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or something that I could hear in my bedroom that

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sounded like it was coming from outside. And this low

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hum sound ended up becoming a voice in my head

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and it kept telling me that I needed to go

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out to the uh. There's a field out back behind

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our house, big farmhouse, and there's a tree line with

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a forest. And the day before me and my friend

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had been out playing in the woods and I left

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my bike out by the crick and the creek would

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flow into the saw Duck River there, and I used

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to throw grasshoppers in the creek and wait for the

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fish to come up and grab them, and i'd scoop

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them out of the crack with a little fishing net.

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So I was showing my buddy this and how to

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catch the fish.

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Out of the creek.

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And I had left my bike out there that night.

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Well later that night, when I was asleep, like I said,

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I was laying in bed and I heard this weird humming,

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low sound that turned into a voice somehow in my head,

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and it was telling me that I better come and

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get my bike because I was going to get in trouble.

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And I thought that was so weird. I'm like, why

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do I have this feeling of getting out of bed

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in the middle of the night and walking to the

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woods to go get my bike. And so I end up,

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I guess, sneaking out of the house. This part's a

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little foggy because I think I was out of it,

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and this is probably like two three o'clock in the morning,

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and I realize next thing I know, I'm standing in

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the middle of the field staring at the forest.

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Going what the heck am I doing?

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And the voice kind of breaks out of my head

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and sound just comes back into the environment, and I

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freak out, and I turn around and I run back

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towards the house, away from the forest, and then I

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can't figure out what the heck was in my head

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telling me to come get my bike or I'd get

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in trouble. It was just this really strong voice that

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had started out as a low hum. So I feel

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like with all the experience and at the place that

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we're at now, with the Bigfoot theories and things that

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everyone has, that that is somehow connected to one of

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my first encounters with them. So I think there was

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some some type of mind s, feet, something was telling

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me to come out there. So that area specifically has

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had a few stories in the past, from the seventies

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and in the nineties of sasquatching that area crossing over

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Highway one oh one, and in those exact areas. So

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fast forward a little bit. I getting to my main

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encounter that I had when I was eleven or twelve

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and my family went camping. We went out to wear

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the Bogushiel River right before it forked off and dumped

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into the Quilliu, which dumps into the Pacific Ocean, and

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me and my family. It was my dad, my mom,

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my sister, and myself. And then we went camping with

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my dad's best friend, his wife and his two sons

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and my dad's friend's name's Turk. My dad's name's Lyle,

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and so my dad and Turk they were having a

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good time and they were doing some fishing and some drinking,

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and then his boys had three wheelers. Me and my

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sister never been on a three wheeler before, so we

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were pretty excited just to get to ride with. And

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I think the boys were around our same ages as

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me and my sister at that time. So the boys

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fired up the three wheelers and we got on the

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back of them and we rode around up and down

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the logging roads from where we were camping that day. Now,

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this is like, this is probably three four o'clock in

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the afternoon. It's bright daylight, and we are headed back

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towards camp, and we're on the back of these three

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wheelers and we start to go around a bend on

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this logging road and I'm not exactly sure. I could

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ask my dad where this exact spot is.

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I haven't been up.

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There in years, but the exact spot where it happened,

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there's a little crick that kind of dumped out into

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one of those big those underground metal tubing things that

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they use for crick water on logging roads, and then

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it flows through that and into this like swampy bog area.

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And it was just a small, little clear cut area,

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but there was a big bog that just at the

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end of this creek, and we were coming around the

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bend and all of a sudden, we just smelled this

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horrible smell. I could tell it hit all of us

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at the same time, because we all kind of paused,

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and we're on the.

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Back of the three wheeler, and I.

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Remember one of the boys going, ah, who farted, who farted?

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And I could remember myself at that time going much

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it wasn't me, it wasn't me. And we stopped on

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that bridge where the creek.

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Was or was flown out of the middle to being piping,

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and all of a sudden, it seems like the entire

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environment like that, the.

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Air, just the sound and everything just got sucked out

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of the environment.

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And I remember.

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Smelling that smell and then all of us looking towards

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like the west, and we saw this huge rock I

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thought it was a rock in the bog in the water,

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and it was like a blonde It was like golden

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blonde on the outside, and as it got towards the

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center of the rock, it turned more of a reddish

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auburn color. But specifically in my head, I could remember

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the hair how it was kind of like like four

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or five six inches off of this thing, just kind

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of wisping in the wind so gently and softly. Like

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that's something that like sticks out in my mind so clear,

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and I don't know why specifically it does, but basically,

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we saw this huge, hairy, blonde, furry rock in the

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middle of this bog, and we're all just staring at it,

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and all of a sudden, it starts to move. Sorry,

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you got goose bumps. So this rock starts to stand.

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Up basically in the bog, and I'm.

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Staring at it so hard watching it stand up, and boy,

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it looked like it looked like this thing was coming

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out of the water, probably about about six feet out

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of the water. So that's not to mention how deep

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that water was or what it was covering. Legwise, Now

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it looked like a big mound, so I'm assuming that

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we obviously were seeing it from the back, like its

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back was facing towards us, and we're watching it, and

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I remember one of the boys, the boy that had

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my sister on his thing. He's like, it's a monster.

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It's a monster. He starts freaking out, and he takes

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off with my sister on the back of the thing,

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and me and the other boy are still on the

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other quad and he starts I can't remember if the

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quad's got shut off, or excuse me, the three wheeler,

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if they were shut off, or if they were still going,

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because I just remembered the environment getting all weird and

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the air being sucked out of it, and seeing this crazy, blonde,

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furry rock starting to move in the water. It freaked

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us out. He starts to take off, and I'm stuck

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staring at this thing as we're driving off and around

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the bend to the right to get back to camp,

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and I'm just stuck staring at this thing because I'm

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trying to I'm trying to see its face and head.

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I know I am, but we go around the bend

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and I never do get to see any facial features

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of this thing or anything so we pull.

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Up into camp.

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So we were probably only like half a mile quarter

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mile away from where our parents were camped out next

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to the Bogush River, and we roar into camp and

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dads are yelling at us to slow down. We get

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off the quads run up to our dads. So now

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we're faced in front.

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Of my dad and his buddy and.

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We're like, we just saw a monster. We just saw

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a monster. No really, and they're laughing because they, you know,

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had been drinking. And then my dad starts to be like, oh,

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you guys must have saw the monster of Bogie Creek.

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And then my dad's buddy Turk, was like, oh, yeah,

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do you remember that movie Bogging Creek, Bogie Creek, That's

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what you guys saw. So they start teasing us about

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seeing what we saw at that moment. And again, the

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first thing that we encountered was the smell before anything.

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Then it was the the whole environment getting completely strange

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and weird, which really stands out to me, and then

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seeing the damn golden furry rock that was moving and

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starting to stand up. So anyway, we try to tell

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our dads about this. I'm not one hundred percent sure

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of what we were saying.

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It was a little chaotic at that point.

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But basically we get settled down and then I remember

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we start building the campfire for the night, and then

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my dad and Turk get into a side talk after

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teasing us about seeing the Bogey Creek monster. They start

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talking about a time up outside of Port Angelis at

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a place called Happy Lake, which is I'm not sure

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if it's closer to Lake Crescent or if it's over

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my Hurricane Ridgemore. I'm not a hundred percent sure. It's

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a very very small, little fishing hole lake, you know.

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And so my dad and his best friend when they

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were teenagers or in their early twenties start so this

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would have been in the in the late seventies early eighties,

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right before I was born. Him and his buddy Turk

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were up camping and hiking out at Happy Lake and

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my dad and he specifically remember coming over the ridge

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just to where they.

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Could look down at the valley where the lake.

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Was, and they saw this huge black thing that was

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crouching down by the lake, and it stood up and

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took off and walked into the wood line. And my

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dad was like the fact that I I could look

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down into the valley and across the lake. To see

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this thing stand up and walk is what really threw

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them off. So for years he in Turk thought that

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it was a bear that stood up and walked into

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the woods. That's what they told themselves for years. But

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I think my dad in Turky, they knew that they existed.

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They just didn't want to give in to the to

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the hype of it all, so they told themselves it

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was a black bear. So it was interesting to learn

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that same night that the kids and I had seen that.

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Thing, that our dads had an.

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Experience with them that they denied completely. So now here's

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here's the scariest part of my encounter. So now it's

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evening at camp, and you know, we as kids, you

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just kind of move on from things, I guess, especially

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if your parents downplay everything. And I remember my mom,

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my dad, myself, and my sister were camping in a tent.

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And h Turk, his wife and.

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His two boys had a camper, and so they were

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in their camper and we were in our tent. And

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I have no idea what time at night it was,

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but it was in the middle of the evening, and

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I remember waking up to hearing. So this is the

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evening time, middle of the night. I remember waking up

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to hearing my mom whisper to my dad wile wile,

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and I'm like, oh God, what's going on? And as

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soon as I hear my mom saying that, I can

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hear rummaging around outside, like I could just hear like like.

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What like a limb being thrown and hitting the ground.

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Or you know, just debris hitting the ground from outside. Nothing,

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nothing's hitting the tent, but I could hear things outside

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of the tent, so I could hear my mom. She's

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telling my dad to wake up, and he's not waking

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up yet, and I can I can tell my mom's

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freaked out, and so that already makes me freaked out

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as a kid. My sister's sound asleep, my dad's snoring

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super loud, and then all of a sudden, I hear

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this low pitch A god, this low pitch sound that

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kind of starts. I want to make the noise, but

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I know I can't make the noise, so I'll save

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everybody's ears. But it starts as a low down, winding

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up pitch noise, and it just revs up in three

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different levels like it went and then and then the

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last series of sound is not even humanly possible, and

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it just shook and vibrated my body and I'm freaking out.

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And then at that point, my mom basically sits up

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and it's like while something's outside, something's outside, and she's

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and trying to get my dad awake. My sisters still

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can't wake up. My dad's finally starting to stir too.

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He's like what what And she's like, there's something outside

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lysle And my Dad's like what And she's like, you

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didn't hear that? And he's like, it's just elk, It's

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just elk. And I don't know. I've never I've heard

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some bugle, and that can be kind of creepy, especially

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if you're nearby or close or not expecting an elk

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to bugle. But this was no elk. This this sound

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made made everything around us vibrate. It felt like like

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I just had this innate, paranoid, paralyzing fear in my

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whole body. What happened? And I'm just traumatized and I

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can't remember exactly. This is the part that's so strange.

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We're hearing all the all this commotion outside there's this

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three parts how that happened and shook us all. My dad,

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it refuses to get out of the tent. He's at

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my mom. He's like, it's just out, it's just out.

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But he won't get out of the tent to go

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look or scare it up. She's like, my mom, that's

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what she said. She was like, go scare it off,

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then get him out of here.

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He wouldn't.

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He wouldn't get out of bed. So it seems like

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we were all in this paralyzing fear. My dad won't get out,

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he's barely even awake, he's out of it. My sister's

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still passed out and asleep during all of this commotion,

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and my mom and I are freaking out, and I'm

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just sitting there paranoid. Oh so here's here's the other

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stringing part. When all that commotion was going on, I

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just I just felt like I couldn't move. I felt paralyzed.

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And ah, sorry, it's.

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Making my heart beat really fast. So and I'm trying

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to recall everything because this is the part of my

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story that it gets really weird because we're stuck in

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the middle of all this commotion and my mom's freaking

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out and this, and this is why you know you

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don't forget things like this when when your mom and

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dad are in some kind of crisis and you're a

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child and you're just like, what is going on? They

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can't handle it for you. So I remember my dad

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not getting up. He didn't get up, he didn't get

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out of the tent, and I remember the next thing

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I remember is that we're back asleep. So it went

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from all this crazy commotion and the howl that had

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paralyzed me and freaked me out, and my mom's freaking out,

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trying to get my dad to get out of the

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tent to go scare off whatever's outside. My dad won't

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get out of the tent. My sister's not moving or

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making the noise or doing anything. She's just asleep as

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far as I know and remember, And all of a sudden,

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like it's daytime, Like we went from where we were totally.

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Panicking and having.

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A crisis to where the next thing I know, it's morning.

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So I don't know if some type of weird shock

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thing happened to me or what, but there's there's parts

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that I cannot recall after that terrifying hell and the

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noises going on outside of the tent, and my mom

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freaked out inside the tent. So oh oh, I do

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remember the dogs barking right right when I woke up.

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I can hear they had two dogs, and two dogs

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were barking, and then they just stopped barking and it

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got real silent. Before the all the commotion happened outside

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the tent and right before the howl and then so

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the next thing I remember is like, I wake up

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and we are the lights come through the side of

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the tent. You could hear the river roaring next to us.

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And I get up and I see my Dad's not

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in bed, but my mom and my sister are still asleep.

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So the tent doors halfway unzipped, and I crawled outside

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the tent and I see my dad and he's standing

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over about thirty forty feet away from where the tent is,

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and he's standing over by the sandbar next to the

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Bogasho River in this bend where we were camped at,

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and he's standing staring down at this spot in the sandbar,

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and I rummage over there and my dad looks up

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and he sees me standing by the tent and he's like,

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come here, come here, and he kind of does the

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two finger wave come over here thing, and I walk

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over there and he bends over and he looks at

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me with these big eyes, and my dad and he

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looks at me and he says, don't you tell your

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mother or sister, and he points.

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Down at the ground.

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And on the ground there is one single, huge footprint

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in the sand. Here's the other weird thing that I

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don't get. It seems like there should have been more

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than one footprint in the sand from like the area,

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because there wasn't a lot of trees in that area.

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Right there or anything.

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But this footprint was.

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You know, again, I was really young.

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So I'm guesstimating how big the footprint really was, but

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it was obviously a sasquatch footprint, a big footprint.

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And you know, my dad wasn't the k the guy

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to like make up that kind of stuff. He's you know,

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my dad's been a longer in the woods for forty

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some years now, for as long as I've been alive,

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and he's just not creative enough to do that type

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of stuff. So I know my dad wasn't making it up.

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So I don't feel like my dad put the footprint

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there or anything to freak us out, But it's just

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strange that there was only one footprint in an area

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that should probably at least had two or three footprints

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around before the river rock covered the ground again. So

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I always thought that that was very strange. So my

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entire encounter from out in Forks when I was growing

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up was very, very strange. To begin with. I had

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a lot of the mind speak stuff, especially when I

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lived closer to the woods. Always seemed like something was

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trying to get my attention. When I was younger out

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out in the woods, when you were a kid by yourself.

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I've had some paranormal things happen out in Forks. That's

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what kind of got me started on my life's journey

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to study and look into all of that for several years.

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Until I moved back up to Oregon.

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In two thousand and nine. I moved back to Portland

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from Dallas, Texas. I didn't have any experiences in Texas

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with any of that type of stuff, unfortunately, but I

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was pretty much in the city most of the time.

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But there was a time in Pennsylvania. I lived in

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an area of Pennsylvania after high school and I.

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Don't know if you're familiar with.

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It was a town called El Vira, and it was

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one of those towns that during World War Two they

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kind of demolished or got rid of for whatever reason.

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Then they installed a bunch of like bunkers out there.

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It's actually behind alan Wood State Prison, which is the

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famous prison in Pennsylvania that had like some of the

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mafia members and everything in it. And so this prison,

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behind this prison, allan Wood State Prison, is this big,

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sprawling field and then next to that is this old

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one of the oldest probably cemetery graveyards I've ever seen.

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It had.

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It had grades from the early eight teen hundreds and everything,

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and so it's just this one single long road. So

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me and my family we took a class on so

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since we had so many strange things between us in

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our lives, me and my family, just to kind of

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cut things short, we took a class at Susquehanna University

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on paranormal research one year. It was like two thousand

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and two. It was at the time when ghost Hunters

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show on TV was just becoming a thing an MTV sphere.

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And then my ghost hunting group that I was a

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part of in Pennsylvania. We worked with some of that

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stuff ourselves with Eastern State Penitentiary. We're back there looking

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at the old bunkers. So this town is called Elviirah,

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and it's right outside of Elam's Port, which is a

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small Amish community. You gotta know that it was pretty

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crazy going from Forks, Washington and then moving to Pennsylvania

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in the middle of Amish country. I went from one

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segregated community to the other. That's why I rushed back

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and moved to Seattle in between those times, because I

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needed some of the city. But what was I saying? Oh, Elvirah,

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that's right. So we're back, me and my mom my stepdad. Sorry,

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me and my mom my stepdad. And I think my

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sister was there. I can't remember. I'll have to ask

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if Sissy was there or not, but she or we

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were back in the bunkers. Oh my gosh, they were

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across so it was like the fourth or fifth bunker

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back from across where the cemetery was. And of course

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there was a bunch of spray paint and everything on

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the ground and around the walls of the old cemetery

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where people had like you know, written satanic things and

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all this kind of stuff on the walls, and so

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it was already creepy. And then you would walk into

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these big concrete dome bunkers that were in the back

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of the for the woods, and some of them were locked.

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I guess they sell some of them off for people

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to use as storage. And they were on the I

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think they were on the game lands back there too,

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a part of Pennsylvania. Anyway, the point I'm trying to

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make is we are investigating and kind of just seeing

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what we can see in these old bunkers. They're all

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spray painted. Most of them are locked or you can't

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get into, but there was one that didn't have a

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lock on the door, and they had these big metal doors. Well,

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we saw one that was open, and we opened it

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up a little bit more and we peeked in and

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we went back into this concrete bunker. And when you

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stand in the center of these things, sound just bounces

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off of everything and everywhere, So it sounds really cool.

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If you do any type of chanting or singing or

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just being fun. Everything's echo in, everything's bouncing around. Great

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place to do investigations because it's really dark. So we

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did a few of those me and my friends after this,

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but the time that it was the middle of the day,

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this afternoon, walking to the bunker and there's a baby

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fonnd deer that was just tore up. It looked like

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somebody It looked basically what I saw. It looked like

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three or four dudes grabbed a baby deer and ripped

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it apart, which is not possible. But at that time,

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with all the things in the environment being like you know,

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with the Titanic graffiti and everything around, I was thinking

464
00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:41.079
that some real sick people mutilated this baby deer and

465
00:34:43.239 --> 00:34:47.800
left it in one of these bunkers. Now fast forward,

466
00:34:47.960 --> 00:34:50.519
so this is like two thousand two, two thousand and

467
00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:56.559
three when that happened. Fast forward several years later, after

468
00:34:56.920 --> 00:35:01.719
also hearing stories from that area too, I think that

469
00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:08.519
some type of cryptid animal, whether it be sasquatch or

470
00:35:09.119 --> 00:35:12.960
a dog man or because I am a firm believer

471
00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:17.760
in all of this for sure, but I know for

472
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:20.320
sure that or I don't know for sure, but I

473
00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:27.239
know in my heart that that was a cryptid encounter somehow,

474
00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:32.639
because there's no way that this deer was completely mangled.

475
00:35:33.840 --> 00:35:38.239
And the other thing is that we found very strange

476
00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:43.159
is that there was no bugs either, Like it was

477
00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:46.039
really hot in Pennsylvania, and I know it was the summertime,

478
00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:49.440
so it was hot and humid, but there.

479
00:35:49.360 --> 00:35:50.599
Was no like maggots.

480
00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:54.920
There was no flies, There was not any kind of

481
00:35:55.000 --> 00:36:01.440
like the stuff you normally see with when something's been

482
00:36:01.559 --> 00:36:05.480
left out to sit. There just isn't one any of that,

483
00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:11.440
but it was. But there was no like blood in

484
00:36:11.480 --> 00:36:15.119
the concrete bunker. So I don't believe that the deer

485
00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:19.840
was actually killed in the bunker, but it was tore

486
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:24.519
up in pieces. I remember the ribs being ripped open.

487
00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:28.000
I remember the hind quarters looked looked like it was

488
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:32.960
tore off, and and me and my stepdad and my mom,

489
00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:38.239
we just cannot figure out how how that happened to something.

490
00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:40.719
And you know, we we chalked it up at the

491
00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:45.360
time too, you know, like cultish occult behavior in the

492
00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:50.159
woods by weird people. But now now that we've had

493
00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:56.079
some time to digest and learn about cryptids, especially in

494
00:36:56.119 --> 00:37:02.039
those areas, I believe I believe some kind of bigfoot

495
00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:04.159
or something got a hold of that deer and that's

496
00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:06.800
what ripped it apart. Because there's a lot of strange

497
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:09.000
things around it too. There seems to be a lot

498
00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:14.440
of paranormal activity around encounters, whether it be a UFO

499
00:37:14.639 --> 00:37:18.119
encounter sasquatch.

500
00:37:22.199 --> 00:37:24.039
Yeah.

501
00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:28.679
So, my goodness, you have lived through a ton. No,

502
00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:32.559
that was I mean, you've got some incredible accounts that

503
00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:37.440
you lived through. I have a lot of questions. Are

504
00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:41.039
a lot of things we can go over? Yeah? So

505
00:37:41.159 --> 00:37:44.440
are you saying then that the Salvira, Pennsylvania area where

506
00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:48.480
there are stories then of other encounters with Bigfoot or

507
00:37:48.480 --> 00:37:49.000
maybe others?

508
00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:53.519
Dig? Yes? Yes, And I was actually hoping or thinking

509
00:37:53.599 --> 00:37:56.920
that you might have heard some or been familiar with

510
00:37:56.920 --> 00:38:00.320
some from that area too. I'm not sure, but I

511
00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:04.519
do believe the BRFO had had some stuff from that

512
00:38:04.639 --> 00:38:07.639
area out there, the allan Wood, Pennsylvania area.

513
00:38:09.400 --> 00:38:12.119
Gotcha, gotcha, I'll have to well, I'll have to look

514
00:38:12.119 --> 00:38:15.079
into that. I haven't gotten anything personally. I'm looking at

515
00:38:15.079 --> 00:38:18.960
my personal map on the website, but I wouldn't be

516
00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:24.079
surprised to look up, Yeah, THEFROL website and check check

517
00:38:24.119 --> 00:38:28.599
that out for sure. Were you also getting mind speak

518
00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:33.400
interactions out in Pennsylvania or was just just a Washington thing?

519
00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:38.320
Well, I think it happened more to me when I

520
00:38:38.440 --> 00:38:43.239
was younger. To be honest, I think I think I

521
00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:45.800
distracted myself from a lot of that type of stuff

522
00:38:46.559 --> 00:38:51.079
when I was when when I got older as a teenager,

523
00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:53.760
you know, and I don't want to put it like

524
00:38:54.199 --> 00:38:59.679
a whole bunch of credence into this, but you know,

525
00:38:59.840 --> 00:39:03.599
you meet people in the paranormal communities, and I was

526
00:39:03.719 --> 00:39:05.960
just a stickler for like, we got to tell the

527
00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:08.840
truth about this stuff. We got to be honest. You know,

528
00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:12.519
I don't want to do this the hokey thing. Like

529
00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:15.320
I was, I was kind of frustrated with people not

530
00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:18.800
taking it serious enough because of some of the experiences

531
00:39:18.840 --> 00:39:21.079
I've had, and I'm like, this is serious stuff, this

532
00:39:21.159 --> 00:39:27.079
is really going on. And so as a kid, I

533
00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:28.840
know I had that stuff happen to me a lot,

534
00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:32.039
a lot more as I got older, I kind of

535
00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:34.719
I kind of shied away from it, even though I

536
00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:39.519
know that I was what people would consider sensitive, still

537
00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:44.679
still am to this day. But it's really easy for

538
00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:49.000
me to get hyper focused on it, and then then

539
00:39:49.039 --> 00:39:53.000
you're getting anxiety and all these other things all the time.

540
00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:56.039
So I try to, I try to, I try to

541
00:39:56.079 --> 00:40:01.000
not focus in on it, but yeah, i' believe that

542
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:05.400
that mind speak was was something that came to me

543
00:40:05.480 --> 00:40:08.119
at an early age. A lot of it, I believe

544
00:40:08.199 --> 00:40:10.079
is because of the area that I grew up in.

545
00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:13.760
I will tell you that the out in Forks on

546
00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:19.400
the Olympic Peninsula is a strange place. You know, I

547
00:40:19.400 --> 00:40:22.199
grew up there. I thought, you know a lot of

548
00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:24.239
that stuff was normal because.

549
00:40:24.000 --> 00:40:24.920
Of growing up there.

550
00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:30.159
But yeah, it's a lot of strange paranormal type stuff.

551
00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:34.400
And and some listeners are going to be like, oh yeah,

552
00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:39.679
Twilight right right, No, it's it's it's for real, like this,

553
00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:43.119
take that whole stuff out of there, because there are actual,

554
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:46.440
really intense things that I've heard that go on in

555
00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:47.920
that community for sure.

556
00:40:49.239 --> 00:40:53.960
Now now, I don't want anybody to internet quote me

557
00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:58.880
or anything on this, but I did. But it might

558
00:40:58.920 --> 00:41:02.039
be where somebody looked you didn't do. I did hear

559
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:06.960
that at some point, either after the Second World War

560
00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:11.519
until the seventies that the Navy, I can't remember if

561
00:41:11.559 --> 00:41:14.760
it was the Navy or the Air Force, but they

562
00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:19.800
used to blast extreme low frequencies across the Olympic Peninsula.

563
00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:24.760
I don't know what the purpose was for, and I

564
00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:30.760
don't know why but I remember just reading because I'd

565
00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:34.199
always go back and research and try to figure out

566
00:41:34.239 --> 00:41:37.960
what was going on in that area to make any

567
00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:40.800
of this stuff happen. And so I found it interesting

568
00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:45.760
that they were subsonically blasting extreme low frequencies across the

569
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:50.960
peninsula for several decades. So yeah, that's kind of weird

570
00:41:50.960 --> 00:41:53.559
and I'm not sure why or what, but yeah, it'd

571
00:41:53.559 --> 00:41:55.360
be interesting to learn more about that.

572
00:41:56.119 --> 00:41:59.159
Yeah, if anyone can do some research on that, feel

573
00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:01.360
free to put it in the comments on YouTube. It'd

574
00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:03.320
be interesting to see what can be found.

575
00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:07.960
Yeah, because I I believe there's a correlation between that

576
00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:12.800
and paranormal activity. So even when I was younger, I

577
00:42:12.920 --> 00:42:15.559
was like, if we could just build this this device

578
00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:19.480
that could generate electromagnetic fields, you know, I totally went

579
00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:23.320
all Ghostbusters since that was my favorite movie as a kid. Too.

580
00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:27.000
So many weird things.

581
00:42:27.679 --> 00:42:30.840
I mean, in the big Foot community we have. It's

582
00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:36.400
it's no question that those low frequency you know, yeah,

583
00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:40.320
it's it's connected to big food for sure. Yeah. Yeah,

584
00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:44.280
I have definitely questions about you know, going back to

585
00:42:44.320 --> 00:42:49.840
your your interactions and forks. So when you saw the

586
00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:54.639
one that was kind of golden blonde in reddish auburn.

587
00:42:55.159 --> 00:42:59.079
How far away from you were? How far away from

588
00:42:59.119 --> 00:42:59.559
that were you?

589
00:42:59.679 --> 00:42:59.920
It was?

590
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:05.760
It was like forty yards at the furthest It wasn't

591
00:43:05.800 --> 00:43:06.280
that far.

592
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:14.880
Yeah, that's really not that's like a.

593
00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:16.880
And I guess, like my perception because of how wide,

594
00:43:17.119 --> 00:43:20.480
you know, I need to say how wide this thing was,

595
00:43:20.519 --> 00:43:23.320
because that's the other thing that that stuck out in

596
00:43:23.360 --> 00:43:26.440
my mind, like like the hair thing, like that's I

597
00:43:26.440 --> 00:43:28.719
don't know why I was so hyper focused on the

598
00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:32.599
hair blowing in the wind, but you know, I thought

599
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:35.480
it was a furry rock. I literally thought I was

600
00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:39.480
looking at a furry rock that was like something from

601
00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:44.880
like Jim Henson's you know, closet somewhere, like one of

602
00:43:44.920 --> 00:43:49.679
the reject muppets like that. That's what it looked like

603
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:54.039
to me. It was so weird. But then when it

604
00:43:54.119 --> 00:43:57.559
started to stand up and move, we I mean that

605
00:43:57.760 --> 00:44:01.800
my heart sunk. But I was just enamored and I

606
00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:05.599
was just I just was staring, and I remember staring,

607
00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:10.880
and I really wish that the kid didn't I wish

608
00:44:10.920 --> 00:44:13.599
he froze up and didn't take off on the three

609
00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:15.480
wheeler because I was on the back of it just

610
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:16.840
holding on to him, you know.

611
00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:17.800
And we'd only.

612
00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:24.320
Stopped there for like thirty forty seconds before we realized

613
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:26.679
what was going on. And the whole reason we stopped

614
00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:31.679
was because the smell was so strong and powerful. We

615
00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:36.360
were just you know, gag but also laughing and being

616
00:44:36.440 --> 00:44:41.000
funny about it, and then it just went from this fun,

617
00:44:41.320 --> 00:44:45.000
happy moment to instant dread and fear.

618
00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:50.119
So yeah, it's in.

619
00:44:50.119 --> 00:44:52.320
A roller coaster of emotions, for sure.

620
00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:58.679
Absolutely. So alongside the Bogushield River is this is this

621
00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:01.280
because if you look on map and I'm you know,

622
00:45:01.360 --> 00:45:03.440
I'm not familiar with the area, but it looks like

623
00:45:03.519 --> 00:45:08.519
it turns into the the Quill River.

624
00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:12.039
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then the Quili River dumps into

625
00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:16.119
the Pacific Ocean. Yeah. Okay, that's why Forks is called

626
00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:19.400
Forks because the saw Duck, the Clawwall, and the Bogashiel

627
00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:24.719
River all meet to the the three rivers form the

628
00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:26.880
Quilli and then they dump into the ocean.

629
00:45:26.960 --> 00:45:30.000
Okay, gotcha, that that makes sense. So was it before

630
00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:32.320
it turns into that river or is it like closer

631
00:45:32.440 --> 00:45:32.800
down too?

632
00:45:33.239 --> 00:45:37.119
So it's it was closer to where it turns into

633
00:45:37.159 --> 00:45:41.920
the quilliuth Okay, because I remember we drove towards La

634
00:45:41.960 --> 00:45:47.679
Push actually to get out to the spot, so heading

635
00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:50.519
down that way, not that we went towards the Push.

636
00:45:50.559 --> 00:45:54.719
We obviously tricked a little bit for their south after that.

637
00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:58.480
But I'm going to ask my dad. I'm going to

638
00:45:58.519 --> 00:46:01.480
get the spot, and I I forgot to ask him

639
00:46:01.519 --> 00:46:06.599
before I called you, h But I've been wanting to

640
00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:11.800
get this this information. You know, for myself, I want

641
00:46:11.800 --> 00:46:15.239
to go back out there. I don't. I don't get

642
00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:18.000
to make it back home as often as i'd like to.

643
00:46:18.320 --> 00:46:20.519
I go up there and visit as often as I can.

644
00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:23.079
I've heard that there's a lot of stuff that goes

645
00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:25.880
on around Maura Campground, and I was curious if it

646
00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:28.480
was over there, but it sounds like it's a different Yeah.

647
00:46:29.519 --> 00:46:30.239
Yeah.

648
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:34.039
Another good one is where the the tribal police guy

649
00:46:34.400 --> 00:46:38.280
and he watched the sasquatch cross right over in front

650
00:46:38.320 --> 00:46:40.480
of where the fish hatchery used to be. I mean,

651
00:46:40.599 --> 00:46:43.039
it's kind of funny to think about because when you

652
00:46:43.159 --> 00:46:47.760
go into the Push, I mean, it's so small, it's

653
00:46:47.760 --> 00:46:50.199
such a small area, and it's just funny to me.

654
00:46:50.360 --> 00:46:53.719
Every time that I drive past that part, I'm like, Oh,

655
00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:55.880
are we going to see big footwalk across the street

656
00:46:55.920 --> 00:46:58.599
here because of his encounter, you know, and he's been

657
00:46:58.639 --> 00:47:02.280
on a few TV shows or whatever.

658
00:47:02.480 --> 00:47:04.440
Exactly Yep, I know exactly.

659
00:47:04.519 --> 00:47:07.559
So I just think it's funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but

660
00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:11.320
that's that area. Yeah, yeah, More Beach, Ruby Beach.

661
00:47:12.400 --> 00:47:16.159
That's awesome. So that the day after you guys had

662
00:47:16.239 --> 00:47:22.599
the tent experience, Yeah, did you get any stories from uh,

663
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:25.679
Turk's family at all about what the experience?

664
00:47:25.800 --> 00:47:30.119
That's right, right, I'm glad you asked. No, So, as

665
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:35.159
far as I know, they and they remember. So here's

666
00:47:35.199 --> 00:47:39.000
the thing. About five years ago, I brought this up

667
00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:43.400
to one of Turk's boys. I say, hey, do you

668
00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:48.880
happen to remember He's like, I do remember that.

669
00:47:49.119 --> 00:47:51.320
He's like, I forgot about that.

670
00:47:51.559 --> 00:47:56.159
And then, uh, but no, they didn't have any experience

671
00:47:56.239 --> 00:47:59.960
that I know of. And you know, after my dad

672
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:03.440
told me not to say anything to my sister and

673
00:48:03.480 --> 00:48:06.239
my mom about the footprint that was in the sand

674
00:48:06.320 --> 00:48:09.559
and stuff, and he's telling me not to say anything

675
00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:12.000
to him because it would freak him out or whatever.

676
00:48:14.079 --> 00:48:19.440
You know that. I I don't know if anything was

677
00:48:19.519 --> 00:48:21.360
said about it the next.

678
00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:21.679
Day or not.

679
00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:26.360
I can't remember that I really can't remember it. I

680
00:48:26.400 --> 00:48:30.800
can't remember why how we went from total chaos to

681
00:48:31.480 --> 00:48:37.360
being asleep again, almost like shock, I guess, you know.

682
00:48:38.920 --> 00:48:45.079
I've never experienced it time loss quite like that, you know.

683
00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:51.559
And the other time, absolutely does everyone in your family

684
00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:54.920
that was there does, does their story line up with yours?

685
00:48:54.920 --> 00:48:59.239
How it's like chaos and it goes to sunlight.

686
00:49:00.360 --> 00:49:05.960
Right, So my sister remembers the first part. She will

687
00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:10.559
confirm that we saw the furry rock starting to stand up,

688
00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:12.519
and we freaked out and went to camp and told

689
00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:18.360
our dads about it. She she knows my part, you know,

690
00:49:18.679 --> 00:49:20.960
she knows the part of the story where that me

691
00:49:21.039 --> 00:49:24.000
and mom experience. And I will say that my mom

692
00:49:24.519 --> 00:49:28.760
does remember, but she wants to keep saying that it's

693
00:49:28.519 --> 00:49:31.400
that No, it must have been elk. Your dad said

694
00:49:31.400 --> 00:49:35.039
it was elk type thing. But Jeremiah, we never went

695
00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:40.480
camping again after that as a family. Never after that night,

696
00:49:41.800 --> 00:49:46.119
we never did anything like that again. And we grew

697
00:49:46.199 --> 00:49:49.079
up in probably one of the best areas for that

698
00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:54.159
type of stuff, especially in the summer. So it did something,

699
00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:59.559
you know, because yeah, we never went camping as a

700
00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:03.840
family ever again. And this is when I was twelve

701
00:50:05.239 --> 00:50:07.039
between eleven twelve.

702
00:50:07.159 --> 00:50:12.239
So yeah, what's what's the last when's the last time

703
00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:14.159
you talked to your dad about it?

704
00:50:16.000 --> 00:50:17.960
Last time I talked to my dad about it? Well,

705
00:50:18.119 --> 00:50:23.480
he was here about a month month and a half

706
00:50:23.519 --> 00:50:26.639
ago and we were actually I got my dad Now,

707
00:50:26.639 --> 00:50:29.760
he's not into watching this stuff really, so he's not

708
00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:32.280
about it. I did bring it up. I brought it

709
00:50:32.360 --> 00:50:34.320
up then to him. I said, yeah, I remember the

710
00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:37.159
time when we went camping we had the big foot thing.

711
00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:41.400
And he's like, oh, yeah, I remember you kids were

712
00:50:41.440 --> 00:50:45.039
freaking out. That's all he said about that. But the

713
00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:49.880
footprint thing is what I need to groll him on next.

714
00:50:50.159 --> 00:50:52.199
And I'll do that. I'll do that. I'll talk to

715
00:50:52.239 --> 00:50:55.880
him about that because because I just I just broke

716
00:50:55.960 --> 00:51:01.079
my dad into like talking about this stuff, right, because

717
00:51:01.119 --> 00:51:03.880
he's been he's you know, he's been in the woods

718
00:51:03.920 --> 00:51:07.719
for forty some years and now he's doing that regressive

719
00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:12.079
thought stuff now where he's like, well, hey I thought

720
00:51:12.199 --> 00:51:16.079
something was this, but maybe it was more tied than this.

721
00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:22.039
Now he's starting to get there, so he's starting to

722
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:27.039
connect his weird experiences that he's had. You know. But

723
00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:32.199
like I said, my dad's not like super super creative.

724
00:51:32.440 --> 00:51:37.840
I guess I would say he can't make his stories up,

725
00:51:38.079 --> 00:51:41.880
is what I'm saying. And he's the reason that I

726
00:51:41.960 --> 00:51:46.480
even got into this stuff to begin with because his

727
00:51:46.599 --> 00:51:49.519
dad grew up in Port Angelis. My dad grew up

728
00:51:49.559 --> 00:51:54.239
in Port Angelis, and the house that my dad grew

729
00:51:54.320 --> 00:51:59.679
up in was heavily haunted. We're talking full body apparitions,

730
00:52:00.320 --> 00:52:04.039
things moving on the walls, and pianos playing haunted. So

731
00:52:05.280 --> 00:52:08.239
I wouldn't even stay the night or visit my grandpa's

732
00:52:08.280 --> 00:52:12.320
house for any longer than an hour back back then,

733
00:52:12.519 --> 00:52:15.719
just because my dad's stories freaked me out about his

734
00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:17.480
house in.

735
00:52:19.119 --> 00:52:19.880
Yeah.

736
00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:24.519
Well, and and my aunt, his sister, and and my

737
00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:28.760
grandpa confirm it, you know, and their stories or you know,

738
00:52:29.239 --> 00:52:32.119
you know you ever have a ghost show, those are

739
00:52:32.119 --> 00:52:34.320
some good ones too. That's but that's what got me

740
00:52:34.400 --> 00:52:38.719
going into this stuff is, you know, the encounters between

741
00:52:38.760 --> 00:52:44.280
myself and my dad. My mom likes all this type

742
00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:47.320
of stuff, like, she likes to listen and watch the

743
00:52:47.320 --> 00:52:52.920
ghost shows somewhat everything, But when you try to get

744
00:52:52.920 --> 00:52:56.280
her involved or try to get her to do an investigation,

745
00:52:56.400 --> 00:53:01.000
she wants nothing to do with it, you know, She's like, no, no, no, no.

746
00:53:01.159 --> 00:53:01.880
I've got enough.

747
00:53:02.519 --> 00:53:04.239
Oh yeah, it's way it's I mean that stuff is

748
00:53:04.280 --> 00:53:06.559
way different once you cross that line. Even with that,

749
00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:11.280
you cross the line and it's then you're potentially bringing

750
00:53:11.360 --> 00:53:11.719
it home.

751
00:53:13.039 --> 00:53:16.719
Yeah, it's so any more questions because I yes, absolutely,

752
00:53:17.760 --> 00:53:19.280
because I know I'm missing stuff.

753
00:53:19.960 --> 00:53:26.199
Going back to when you were in Sappho, Washington. Uh

754
00:53:26.400 --> 00:53:28.480
so was that pretty close to the Saldak River?

755
00:53:28.559 --> 00:53:33.159
Then that is right alongside the Salduck River, So I

756
00:53:33.199 --> 00:53:36.840
can tell you. So the house that I grew up in,

757
00:53:36.880 --> 00:53:42.239
it was known as the Rickson Homestead, and my mom

758
00:53:42.679 --> 00:53:45.599
grew up there. She was raised at that house when

759
00:53:45.639 --> 00:53:52.079
she was a kid. And it's about eleven miles outside

760
00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:58.920
of Forbes, headed towards Port Angelis. So my mom grew

761
00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:01.679
up there, big farmhouse.

762
00:54:01.079 --> 00:54:02.639
Big barn, everything.

763
00:54:03.159 --> 00:54:11.199
And she said that she never remembers having any like creepy,

764
00:54:11.280 --> 00:54:14.960
weird paranormal stuff happening to her when she was younger

765
00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:19.480
out there, but she did say that that had changed

766
00:54:19.519 --> 00:54:21.960
by the time we had moved out there. So my

767
00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:24.320
mom grew up out there, and then we lived in town,

768
00:54:24.400 --> 00:54:26.079
and then we had a small house.

769
00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:31.360
In town, and then my dad was logging.

770
00:54:31.679 --> 00:54:34.360
Quite a bit outside of town, so it was just

771
00:54:34.400 --> 00:54:37.639
a little bit closer for him for work. So we

772
00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:41.920
had a chance to rent this house out for ourselves,

773
00:54:42.039 --> 00:54:44.360
the same house that my mom grew up in. Beautiful

774
00:54:44.400 --> 00:54:47.440
piece of property. If you look it up on the internet,

775
00:54:47.719 --> 00:54:53.039
it's gorgeous. It's Rickson Road, right off a highway one

776
00:54:53.039 --> 00:54:55.119
on one, and you'll see I think it's a bed

777
00:54:55.119 --> 00:54:58.920
and breakfast. Now, every time I try to go out there,

778
00:54:58.920 --> 00:55:02.360
it's always closed down or nobody's there to go see

779
00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:06.519
it again. But I spent about three years of my

780
00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:11.679
young life out there, and that's where the mind speak

781
00:55:11.760 --> 00:55:15.039
thing happened to me. I had an encounter right near

782
00:55:15.079 --> 00:55:18.480
the saw Duck River. There's a creek that dumps right

783
00:55:18.519 --> 00:55:26.400
into the saw Duck River alongside of that house. About

784
00:55:26.239 --> 00:55:30.199
only two three hundred feet away from the house is

785
00:55:30.239 --> 00:55:34.639
the creek. So there, and there's this old, old concrete

786
00:55:34.719 --> 00:55:38.480
bridge from like the early nineteen hundreds that was built there.

787
00:55:38.679 --> 00:55:43.239
It's all roped or fenced off now you can't drive

788
00:55:43.559 --> 00:55:47.039
up that road anymore. But I actually had my first

789
00:55:47.559 --> 00:55:53.559
paranormal seen an apparition, two apparitions, two little boys standing

790
00:55:53.599 --> 00:55:56.679
on the opposite side of that bridge. One time when

791
00:55:56.719 --> 00:56:00.320
I was I would go down to the crag because

792
00:56:00.360 --> 00:56:03.480
right before the river beavers had built the dam under

793
00:56:03.519 --> 00:56:07.280
the bridge. The bridge covered the crick but then alongside

794
00:56:07.360 --> 00:56:11.039
the creek, about another fifty feet away, was the actual

795
00:56:11.119 --> 00:56:14.280
Saldark River. So I would go down to the creek

796
00:56:14.400 --> 00:56:19.480
and i'd break up the dam with my foot, and

797
00:56:20.400 --> 00:56:22.199
then i'd climbed back up to the top of the

798
00:56:22.239 --> 00:56:26.079
bridge and watched the beavers fix and rebuild the dam.

799
00:56:27.719 --> 00:56:29.360
And one day I.

800
00:56:29.159 --> 00:56:32.280
Was down there, middle of the day, daytime, and I

801
00:56:32.360 --> 00:56:35.559
broke up the dam, and I crawled back up the embankment,

802
00:56:35.920 --> 00:56:38.199
stepped back up onto the bridge, and I was looking

803
00:56:38.199 --> 00:56:40.159
over the edge of the bridge, and then all of

804
00:56:40.159 --> 00:56:43.800
a sudden, I just I got a weird feeling, and

805
00:56:43.960 --> 00:56:47.800
I looked to my left and standing there two little boys,

806
00:56:48.840 --> 00:56:52.400
and I got excited. I was probably eight or nine

807
00:56:52.639 --> 00:56:55.760
at this time, and I got excited because there was

808
00:56:55.800 --> 00:56:57.440
no other kids out there. I mean, I had to

809
00:56:57.440 --> 00:57:01.760
play by myself in the woods all the time, so

810
00:57:01.800 --> 00:57:05.800
I was excited that there was just anybody, any other

811
00:57:05.880 --> 00:57:10.320
kids out there. So I was like, and I don't

812
00:57:10.400 --> 00:57:14.639
remember seeing them say anything, but I just remember again

813
00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:19.280
in my mind hearing come play with us, and they

814
00:57:19.320 --> 00:57:23.519
turned around and they ran into the woods, and I said, oh,

815
00:57:23.679 --> 00:57:26.559
wait up. And you know, when I was a kid,

816
00:57:27.119 --> 00:57:30.119
I was I was kind of a chunky kid, not

817
00:57:30.239 --> 00:57:33.039
so much anymore, but when.

818
00:57:32.840 --> 00:57:34.639
I was younger, I was a little dough boy.

819
00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:37.800
And so I remember I had some shorts on and

820
00:57:37.880 --> 00:57:41.079
my sandals, and I'm running through the sticker bushes and

821
00:57:41.119 --> 00:57:43.920
the twigs, trying to catch up. And I can hear

822
00:57:43.960 --> 00:57:48.239
these two boys running, but I can't see them anymore,

823
00:57:48.440 --> 00:57:51.199
but I could hear them laughing, and I'm like, hey, guys,

824
00:57:51.239 --> 00:57:57.159
wait up, wait up. And next thing I know, I

825
00:57:57.480 --> 00:58:00.880
don't hear see anything, and I in the middle of

826
00:58:00.920 --> 00:58:04.559
like the sticker bushes, like what the heck? And then

827
00:58:04.920 --> 00:58:08.480
I can hear my mom yelling for me for dinner time.

828
00:58:09.079 --> 00:58:11.719
And so I ran all the way back to the house,

829
00:58:11.840 --> 00:58:16.360
or got to the house. And my mom does remember this,

830
00:58:16.480 --> 00:58:19.800
and she will confirmed this one that I came into

831
00:58:19.840 --> 00:58:22.880
the house just so excited and happy because I had

832
00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:26.679
found two kids to play with. But they were too fast.

833
00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:30.840
They got away from me. They were just too fast.

834
00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:34.000
I told my mom, and she thought I was weird

835
00:58:34.039 --> 00:58:38.400
as hell. She's like, there's nothing out there. Thought she

836
00:58:38.599 --> 00:58:41.119
thought at that time that I had made that story up.

837
00:58:42.000 --> 00:58:45.159
And then fast forward till my senior year of high school.

838
00:58:45.519 --> 00:58:48.239
I took a buddy out there, and I hadn't been

839
00:58:48.280 --> 00:58:51.360
out there since, uh, you know, since we had lived

840
00:58:51.360 --> 00:58:53.559
out there. And I took a friend of mine out

841
00:58:53.599 --> 00:58:58.880
there during October in the fall, and I started telling

842
00:58:58.920 --> 00:59:01.280
them about the beaver is, like how I would go

843
00:59:01.599 --> 00:59:03.840
break up the dam and then come back up and

844
00:59:03.840 --> 00:59:06.639
watch the beavers rebuild it. Well, as I was telling

845
00:59:06.719 --> 00:59:11.119
him that story, I totally remembered that encounter of seeing

846
00:59:11.159 --> 00:59:13.880
the two ghosts little boys at the other side of

847
00:59:13.920 --> 00:59:17.360
the thing, and like this, you know, the story came

848
00:59:17.400 --> 00:59:20.039
back to me, and then I remember telling my buddy,

849
00:59:20.079 --> 00:59:22.239
and then it freaked my buddy out. So we drove

850
00:59:22.320 --> 00:59:25.480
to my mom's house. We drove into town and went

851
00:59:25.559 --> 00:59:28.039
and asked my mom. I was like, mom, mo, Mom,

852
00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:30.559
do you remember when I was a kid, And she's like, yeah,

853
00:59:30.639 --> 00:59:34.400
I do remember that. I thought you were just blowing smoke,

854
00:59:34.719 --> 00:59:39.199
but what yeah, just a lot of paranormal stuff.

855
00:59:39.519 --> 00:59:42.000
Absolutely, What type of clothing were they wearing?

856
00:59:43.239 --> 00:59:45.960
So that yeah, so that's something I specifically remember too.

857
00:59:46.000 --> 00:59:50.599
They were wearing like a polo, these polo collared shirts right, like, uh,

858
00:59:51.719 --> 00:59:54.760
what are those ones that have like little animals on

859
00:59:54.880 --> 00:59:59.599
the like like somehow like the crocodiles, like a polo. Yeah,

860
00:59:59.639 --> 01:00:05.400
like a shirt, yeah, yeah, yeah stuff like so eighties,

861
01:00:05.840 --> 01:00:10.280
well yeah, it was more like forties, fifties or fifty style.

862
01:00:10.400 --> 01:00:15.119
I guess polo cut suret. Yeah, it was like fifties

863
01:00:15.119 --> 01:00:18.480
sixties because it and it had this turk like one

864
01:00:18.519 --> 01:00:23.440
shirt had a turquoise in white stripes, like a big

865
01:00:23.519 --> 01:00:29.159
thick stripe of turquoise and white across it, like it

866
01:00:29.480 --> 01:00:33.480
had three stripes, like it went white turquoise.

867
01:00:33.000 --> 01:00:34.519
White like that.

868
01:00:34.840 --> 01:00:41.519
But they had polo polo, excuse me, collars, so in jeans,

869
01:00:42.639 --> 01:00:47.599
dark denim jeans. I don't remember shoes. I just remembered

870
01:00:47.639 --> 01:00:50.440
that they were like the the one boy was my age.

871
01:00:50.519 --> 01:00:53.199
That one boy was like nine or ten, and the

872
01:00:53.239 --> 01:00:57.159
other boy was like six or seven, and they were

873
01:00:57.199 --> 01:01:01.840
just two little kids standing there and all I don't remember.

874
01:01:02.639 --> 01:01:05.440
I don't remember seeing their mouths move. I just heard

875
01:01:05.719 --> 01:01:09.280
come play with us. And they literally turned around and

876
01:01:09.360 --> 01:01:12.239
both ran into the woods at the same time, at

877
01:01:12.239 --> 01:01:16.760
the same speed. And then they went through the sticker

878
01:01:16.760 --> 01:01:19.679
bush and then I tried to go through there too,

879
01:01:20.199 --> 01:01:22.440
and I was just getting all hung up by all

880
01:01:22.480 --> 01:01:25.159
the other bushes and twigs that are whacking me as

881
01:01:25.159 --> 01:01:27.360
I'm trying to crawl through this bush to catch up

882
01:01:27.400 --> 01:01:32.559
with these kids. And I remember as I was trying

883
01:01:32.559 --> 01:01:38.599
to come up behind them, I can hear laughter, like

884
01:01:38.599 --> 01:01:43.880
like just kids laughing, and then it just was nothing,

885
01:01:44.039 --> 01:01:47.159
and then it just faded to nothing. And then I'm

886
01:01:47.199 --> 01:01:49.639
standing in the middle of the sticker bushes.

887
01:01:50.480 --> 01:01:51.719
Like where'd they go?

888
01:01:52.039 --> 01:01:55.719
Where'd they go? You know? And to my left is

889
01:01:55.760 --> 01:01:58.039
the saw Duk River running along side of me. I'm

890
01:01:58.079 --> 01:02:04.159
literally running alongside saw Duck River chasing these kids. And

891
01:02:04.199 --> 01:02:09.000
I find it also interesting because it's across there's a

892
01:02:09.199 --> 01:02:11.840
there's a crossways there because I told you that the

893
01:02:11.960 --> 01:02:15.760
creek dumps out into the saw Duck River right there too,

894
01:02:16.239 --> 01:02:19.079
and so that that just makes me think of the

895
01:02:19.119 --> 01:02:23.719
constant energy source that's constantly going on there, you know,

896
01:02:23.920 --> 01:02:29.159
the river and the creek just creating a lot of energy.

897
01:02:29.480 --> 01:02:31.360
So I think that has a lot to do with

898
01:02:31.400 --> 01:02:34.119
stuff too, these natural energy spots.

899
01:02:34.360 --> 01:02:36.760
Yes, I agree with you one hundred percent. The other

900
01:02:36.840 --> 01:02:40.480
weird thing from your stories. Is that so you have

901
01:02:40.599 --> 01:02:45.079
two different times, two different times when you have something

902
01:02:45.440 --> 01:02:48.440
mind that is well that and it's trying to get

903
01:02:48.559 --> 01:02:49.880
you to go somewhere.

904
01:02:50.480 --> 01:02:56.320
Yes, yes, yeah, I didn't even connect that. Yeah. Yeah,

905
01:02:56.360 --> 01:02:59.599
the Woods wanted me and I've always felt that, Jeremiah,

906
01:02:59.679 --> 01:03:04.119
I tell you what. Okay, Okay, I grew up. I

907
01:03:04.159 --> 01:03:10.559
grew up there in Forks. I wanted nothing to do

908
01:03:10.639 --> 01:03:13.960
with Forks when I was there for the most part.

909
01:03:14.079 --> 01:03:17.159
Now I now know. Don't get me wrong. I did football,

910
01:03:17.559 --> 01:03:20.320
I played sports. I was a good kid in school.

911
01:03:20.360 --> 01:03:22.159
I did all the right things. I was a big

912
01:03:22.199 --> 01:03:25.159
part of my community, big ties to the community. It's

913
01:03:25.199 --> 01:03:28.239
a small community. So and I did a lot of

914
01:03:28.239 --> 01:03:33.639
stuff for for the American Diabetes Association. Dang it, side

915
01:03:33.679 --> 01:03:34.519
mission got me.

916
01:03:36.119 --> 01:03:42.159
That's no problem. I do have another question about Sapho. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

917
01:03:42.159 --> 01:03:46.800
you'd mentioned that that you're what you experienced in staff

918
01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:49.800
like there are other people that have also had big

919
01:03:49.880 --> 01:03:53.400
foot encounters around one oh one in Sapho as well.

920
01:03:54.519 --> 01:03:55.119
Mm hmmmm.

921
01:03:57.480 --> 01:03:59.960
Mary Clark Road is I don't know if.

922
01:03:59.840 --> 01:04:00.559
You heard of that.

923
01:04:01.480 --> 01:04:02.679
I don't think so.

924
01:04:02.719 --> 01:04:06.079
There's there's there's a lot of action near Highway one

925
01:04:06.119 --> 01:04:08.800
oh one in the Mary Clark Road. Uh, there's an

926
01:04:08.920 --> 01:04:13.400
area called the A Road up in Forks, which is

927
01:04:13.440 --> 01:04:16.519
a road that leads up into several series of different

928
01:04:16.599 --> 01:04:22.440
logging roads. And there's actually a story about a different

929
01:04:22.599 --> 01:04:28.079
type of cryptid that I never experienced anything, but I've

930
01:04:28.079 --> 01:04:33.079
heard stories from close friends of mine. Three of my

931
01:04:33.199 --> 01:04:43.360
friends experienced. They call it deer monkey. Is a yeah, yeah,

932
01:04:43.559 --> 01:04:43.920
I know.

933
01:04:44.239 --> 01:04:45.039
I didn't know if.

934
01:04:44.880 --> 01:04:46.039
I wanted to bring it up.

935
01:04:46.119 --> 01:04:47.639
No, go ahead, go ahead, I'm.

936
01:04:47.480 --> 01:04:48.079
Going to go there.

937
01:04:48.239 --> 01:04:49.000
I'm gonna go there.

938
01:04:49.159 --> 01:04:49.440
Okay.

939
01:04:50.400 --> 01:04:52.760
I heard about this story when I was in high school.

940
01:04:53.000 --> 01:04:55.880
So this is like nineteen ninety eight or ninety nine,

941
01:04:57.440 --> 01:05:03.519
and my body is, who knows. They were probably drinking

942
01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:09.119
and smoking going up the A Road to party, but

943
01:05:10.760 --> 01:05:15.519
they freaked out because they encountered something that ran right

944
01:05:15.639 --> 01:05:18.599
in front of them and they almost hit this animal.

945
01:05:19.559 --> 01:05:24.880
But they called it deer monkey. And I'm like, deer monkey,

946
01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:29.760
what the heck? And so from what I know, my

947
01:05:30.039 --> 01:05:33.280
friend Tasha, she had told me about it first, and

948
01:05:33.320 --> 01:05:38.400
she's like, yeah, it's like this weird kangaroo. So that's

949
01:05:38.519 --> 01:05:42.519
that's the number one. It's kind of weird because I

950
01:05:42.559 --> 01:05:45.840
heard this story before I knew about certain things, and

951
01:05:45.960 --> 01:05:49.280
now that I know certain things that I can't unlearn,

952
01:05:49.519 --> 01:05:52.440
it makes more sense to what it might have been,

953
01:05:53.159 --> 01:05:57.320
I guess anyway, So she said it was like it

954
01:05:57.480 --> 01:06:02.760
had like a kangaroo style body with a long thick tail,

955
01:06:03.280 --> 01:06:07.599
but the hair was shaggy on the tail, right, so

956
01:06:07.760 --> 01:06:12.920
hair was hanging off the tail. It had the weird hawks,

957
01:06:12.960 --> 01:06:16.480
like the like the dog legs or whatever you would

958
01:06:16.559 --> 01:06:20.280
like the King of Aru style body, but it had

959
01:06:20.719 --> 01:06:26.440
a snout and antlers like a deer. There's a two point,

960
01:06:26.719 --> 01:06:31.239
she said. But it had like arms that were, like

961
01:06:32.079 --> 01:06:35.039
she said, kind of like a like a dinosaur's arms,

962
01:06:35.599 --> 01:06:39.159
like like crouched up, kind of like a I don't know,

963
01:06:39.320 --> 01:06:41.679
like in Jurassic Park like they.

964
01:06:41.559 --> 01:06:42.199
Have on there.

965
01:06:43.079 --> 01:06:48.159
That's how she described this animal to me, right, So

966
01:06:48.159 --> 01:06:50.920
so she told me this story. So then I had

967
01:06:50.960 --> 01:06:53.599
to ask the other two boys that she was with

968
01:06:54.000 --> 01:06:57.760
if they had it, and then my buddy Pek he did.

969
01:06:57.880 --> 01:06:58.920
He admitted, He's like.

970
01:06:58.960 --> 01:07:00.719
Yeah, dude, it was weird.

971
01:07:00.920 --> 01:07:05.079
It was the weirdest thing I'd ever seen. It moved weird.

972
01:07:05.440 --> 01:07:07.639
Oh that was the other thing. The color of it

973
01:07:07.679 --> 01:07:11.639
was like a deer, like a deer's hair. That was

974
01:07:11.679 --> 01:07:14.320
another reason I guess why they called it deer monkey.

975
01:07:14.960 --> 01:07:17.079
But it was up on two legs and it had

976
01:07:17.079 --> 01:07:21.800
this weird long tail thing, and it just sounds totally

977
01:07:21.840 --> 01:07:24.599
out of left field, like I had never ever heard

978
01:07:24.639 --> 01:07:28.920
of anything. Here's the interesting thing. After I had finally

979
01:07:28.960 --> 01:07:32.000
decided to email you and talk to the story, I

980
01:07:32.079 --> 01:07:36.000
went to chat GPT just to see if there was

981
01:07:36.079 --> 01:07:39.079
any if it could gather information better than I could

982
01:07:39.239 --> 01:07:43.800
about deer monkey, because it just stuck out my mind

983
01:07:44.079 --> 01:07:47.239
to bring it up. And I asked chat GPT and

984
01:07:47.320 --> 01:07:52.440
it did find an encounter about another person's encounter about

985
01:07:52.440 --> 01:07:56.840
this deer monkey thing out there no way, so there is. Yeah,

986
01:07:56.880 --> 01:08:01.960
so there is an encounter from somebody that told part

987
01:08:02.039 --> 01:08:04.679
of the same story. And I'm not sure if it

988
01:08:04.760 --> 01:08:06.320
was one of the people from that night.

989
01:08:06.360 --> 01:08:07.280
But here's the other thing.

990
01:08:08.320 --> 01:08:14.039
There's two people that have passed away that that had

991
01:08:14.159 --> 01:08:18.199
also encountered this thing. Sounds like like, you know, if

992
01:08:18.239 --> 01:08:21.640
I was thinking outside the box or whatever, I would,

993
01:08:21.680 --> 01:08:25.159
I would think, oh, that sounds like some Native American

994
01:08:25.960 --> 01:08:32.399
whin to go type, you know, spearfinger type creature, like

995
01:08:32.479 --> 01:08:36.399
a kangaroo with antlers and a long shaggy tail. Right.

996
01:08:37.239 --> 01:08:40.079
That's that's really strange. Were you able to find that

997
01:08:40.199 --> 01:08:43.119
actual encounter, because sometimes when you put when you ask

998
01:08:43.119 --> 01:08:46.359
stuff and chat GBT, it'll make stuff up that it's

999
01:08:46.359 --> 01:08:46.920
looking for.

1000
01:08:47.199 --> 01:08:52.159
Okay, So so let me see if I could grab

1001
01:08:52.239 --> 01:08:56.039
my phone and see if I could recall that that

1002
01:08:56.399 --> 01:09:01.279
conversation I had with it, because it said that I

1003
01:09:01.319 --> 01:09:03.520
thought it gave me a resource from where it polled.

1004
01:09:03.560 --> 01:09:05.680
Okay, that's cool, yeah, nice.

1005
01:09:05.520 --> 01:09:07.680
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yea yeah, cool, cool.

1006
01:09:07.680 --> 01:09:07.960
Cool.

1007
01:09:08.399 --> 01:09:10.920
My brain gets a little scattered on some of this stuff.

1008
01:09:11.000 --> 01:09:14.000
But but but I can answer specific questions.

1009
01:09:15.039 --> 01:09:18.880
You're good, You're good. I have I have probably about

1010
01:09:19.119 --> 01:09:25.119
one more question. You mentioned that so in sappho you

1011
01:09:25.159 --> 01:09:27.359
had mentioned Mary Clark Roads. So is there a lot

1012
01:09:27.399 --> 01:09:30.760
of activity that happens on that road then, or so

1013
01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:31.640
there's just.

1014
01:09:31.560 --> 01:09:36.359
A ton of activity that happens in that general sense.

1015
01:09:36.399 --> 01:09:40.520
So I'll tell you this from about the right before

1016
01:09:40.600 --> 01:09:44.239
the clay Lock area on South one oh one Highway

1017
01:09:44.319 --> 01:09:50.439
one on one till about Lake Crescent area and just

1018
01:09:50.479 --> 01:09:57.159
before Lake Crescent, that whole area, it's just it has

1019
01:09:58.279 --> 01:10:01.840
it has a certain feeling. And I always told, like

1020
01:10:01.880 --> 01:10:05.079
I always told my wife and everything. I was always like,

1021
01:10:05.279 --> 01:10:07.600
you can feel when you get there, like I know

1022
01:10:07.720 --> 01:10:10.880
when I'm home because I can feel it. And it

1023
01:10:10.960 --> 01:10:13.119
was always just this weird thing. And then I was

1024
01:10:13.159 --> 01:10:16.680
talking to my mom and she she does it too,

1025
01:10:16.960 --> 01:10:19.279
she knows what I was talking about. She's like, yeah, no,

1026
01:10:19.439 --> 01:10:23.560
there's a vibe. There's a vibe definitely when you get

1027
01:10:23.600 --> 01:10:27.680
into a certain locations. One of my favorite so the

1028
01:10:27.720 --> 01:10:32.800
Mary Clark Road. I don't have any specific stories. I

1029
01:10:32.960 --> 01:10:37.119
just know from people on other shows talking about it

1030
01:10:37.159 --> 01:10:38.920
and I'm like, oh, yeah, that's up by the Mary.

1031
01:10:38.680 --> 01:10:40.560
Clark Oh gotcha, Okay, cool, cool, cool?

1032
01:10:41.319 --> 01:10:42.680
Yeah. And then.

1033
01:10:44.640 --> 01:10:50.279
What was the other Oh, oil City Road just before

1034
01:10:50.359 --> 01:10:53.840
the whole Rainforest as you're heading south headed towards Aberdeen,

1035
01:10:55.000 --> 01:10:59.880
right before the whole rainforest there in clay Lock, the

1036
01:11:00.079 --> 01:11:00.880
Oil City Road.

1037
01:11:01.079 --> 01:11:02.680
Like, one of my favorite.

1038
01:11:02.479 --> 01:11:06.680
Bigfoot encounters is of the tow truck driver in the

1039
01:11:06.720 --> 01:11:09.760
seventies who was picking a guy up right there at

1040
01:11:09.760 --> 01:11:14.399
the top of that hill and Cottonwood Campgrounds, an area

1041
01:11:14.439 --> 01:11:16.560
where a lot of people have because that's on Oil

1042
01:11:16.600 --> 01:11:21.640
City Road right there. But that back in the seventies,

1043
01:11:21.720 --> 01:11:25.159
there was a tay truck driver guy who was it

1044
01:11:25.279 --> 01:11:27.520
was either the tow truck driver or the truck driver

1045
01:11:27.680 --> 01:11:31.359
waiting for a toe, one of the two, and he

1046
01:11:31.479 --> 01:11:33.399
was stuck up on that hill in the middle of

1047
01:11:33.479 --> 01:11:38.439
winter waiting for the toe, or the tow guy was

1048
01:11:38.479 --> 01:11:42.359
waiting for a truck. He basically saw a sasquatch, heard something,

1049
01:11:42.920 --> 01:11:44.760
saw a sasquatch looking at him.

1050
01:11:44.760 --> 01:11:45.880
In his.

1051
01:11:47.319 --> 01:11:49.800
Truck cab, and he shot it with like a three

1052
01:11:49.880 --> 01:11:52.640
fifty seven in the face and it took off into

1053
01:11:52.640 --> 01:11:55.800
the woods running. That's a pretty popular story. You might

1054
01:11:55.920 --> 01:11:59.960
recall that one somewhere too, And that's like just south

1055
01:12:00.079 --> 01:12:01.920
to town, right outside of town.

1056
01:12:03.199 --> 01:12:06.600
Wow, I've never heard that one. That's that's wild though.

1057
01:12:06.600 --> 01:12:07.880
I'll have to get out to that one.

1058
01:12:08.119 --> 01:12:13.119
It's yeah, yeah, So I think the keywords are probably

1059
01:12:13.279 --> 01:12:19.239
Oil City Road, Highway one on one. Okay, late seventies,

1060
01:12:19.239 --> 01:12:22.960
I believe it was like seventy eight, seventy nine. I think,

1061
01:12:23.479 --> 01:12:28.680
so between seventy six and seventy nine, i'd say. So.

1062
01:12:28.920 --> 01:12:31.600
It's just it's just such a good story. I've been

1063
01:12:31.680 --> 01:12:37.359
listening to your show probably for the last three forty years, so.

1064
01:12:37.720 --> 01:12:39.560
I appreciate that. Thank you.

1065
01:12:39.840 --> 01:12:42.680
Well, yeah, no, I appreciate it because I like. I

1066
01:12:42.800 --> 01:12:46.319
like that style. I like it you're able to just

1067
01:12:46.399 --> 01:12:50.000
ask folks to let let them run with it. Even

1068
01:12:50.039 --> 01:12:52.880
though I feel like I've stuttered and stambled all over

1069
01:12:52.960 --> 01:12:54.239
the place today, I just.

1070
01:12:56.640 --> 01:12:59.600
Well, I think it's important for individuals to be able

1071
01:12:59.600 --> 01:13:02.680
to get the full story out, yeah, and just to

1072
01:13:02.720 --> 01:13:05.039
be able to run with it. Most people have never

1073
01:13:05.079 --> 01:13:08.520
gotten that chance, and that can really lead into some

1074
01:13:08.640 --> 01:13:12.159
interesting conversations. But Jared, I just want to say thank

1075
01:13:12.199 --> 01:13:14.880
you so much for chatting today. I want to make

1076
01:13:14.920 --> 01:13:18.319
sure that you were able to share everything that you'd

1077
01:13:18.319 --> 01:13:20.039
wanted to share on the show today.

1078
01:13:21.880 --> 01:13:25.880
Yeah, I mean, I do want to say this to

1079
01:13:26.000 --> 01:13:32.880
everyone listening. It is important, It is super important that

1080
01:13:33.000 --> 01:13:37.479
we all take this stuff a little bit more serious

1081
01:13:38.119 --> 01:13:41.520
and we try to figure out what is going on

1082
01:13:43.600 --> 01:13:50.279
and why these encounters are happening on a more on

1083
01:13:50.359 --> 01:13:54.319
a larger basis than they were before. Now. I know

1084
01:13:54.359 --> 01:13:57.159
the Internet has opened up an avenue for people to

1085
01:13:57.199 --> 01:14:00.359
tell their stories and get their opinions out there, but

1086
01:14:01.159 --> 01:14:04.079
I feel like it's really important and that we're at

1087
01:14:04.079 --> 01:14:08.239
a pinnacle of time. This information gets out there in

1088
01:14:08.279 --> 01:14:12.399
a legitimate way where people aren't laughed at or pointed

1089
01:14:12.439 --> 01:14:15.359
fingers at because that's what kept me away from all

1090
01:14:15.399 --> 01:14:17.560
this for a long time, even though it's been my

1091
01:14:17.840 --> 01:14:21.800
entire life. For the most part, the paranormal stuff has

1092
01:14:21.840 --> 01:14:25.439
been a part of my life since I was a kid,

1093
01:14:25.720 --> 01:14:29.680
and I didn't ask for it. It just came to me.

1094
01:14:31.199 --> 01:14:34.159
And it is important that we give a little.

1095
01:14:33.960 --> 01:14:37.920
More credence and to people's encounters, you know, be legitimate,

1096
01:14:38.239 --> 01:14:41.840
be truthful, be honest, you know, like I like, if

1097
01:14:41.840 --> 01:14:44.640
I didn't remember, I didn't try to fill in the gaps.

1098
01:14:44.680 --> 01:14:47.359
I just say I can't remember, you know what I mean.

1099
01:14:47.600 --> 01:14:51.520
So, yeah, I agree with you, Jared, with that right now,

1100
01:14:52.600 --> 01:14:54.840
this is I think this is a very important time

1101
01:14:54.880 --> 01:14:58.239
for people to reach out with what they've experienced. And

1102
01:14:58.720 --> 01:15:00.560
if people do want to do that, you're more than

1103
01:15:00.600 --> 01:15:03.720
welcome to You can send me an email Bigfoot Society

1104
01:15:03.760 --> 01:15:06.199
at gmail dot com, and I will respond to you

1105
01:15:06.239 --> 01:15:08.720
in a few days because there's a lot going on

1106
01:15:08.800 --> 01:15:12.479
in that email, but I will get back in touch

1107
01:15:12.520 --> 01:15:15.079
with you. But Jared, thank you so much for coming

1108
01:15:15.119 --> 01:15:18.720
on the show. Is great chatting with you and you know,

1109
01:15:18.800 --> 01:15:21.439
keep us in the loop if if you hear anything

1110
01:15:21.479 --> 01:15:25.039
else out there. And it's been a real privilege talking

1111
01:15:25.079 --> 01:15:25.399
to you.

1112
01:15:25.319 --> 01:15:28.960
Today, you too, thank you. I do head up in

1113
01:15:29.000 --> 01:15:31.680
that area a few times a year or so If

1114
01:15:31.720 --> 01:15:35.159
I have anything new for you, I will certainly get

1115
01:15:35.199 --> 01:15:35.560
in touch.

1116
01:15:35.840 --> 01:15:37.920
Thank you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot

1117
01:15:37.960 --> 01:15:40.960
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1118
01:15:41.000 --> 01:15:44.079
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1119
01:15:44.159 --> 01:15:46.760
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1120
01:15:47.239 --> 01:15:50.159
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1128
01:16:10.439 --> 01:16:13.399
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1129
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1130
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1137
01:16:39.920 --> 01:16:42.920
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1138
01:16:43.319 --> 01:16:45.760
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1139
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