Boots on the Ground at the Paul Property, Pt. 1 | Tennessee

0:00 Welcome to Big for Society. If you have bigfoot activity to report from the same areas discussed in this episode, please reach out to me directly after this episode. And if you'd like to be on the podcast to discuss a personal bigfoot encounter, please reach out to me directly at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. Do you wish there was more Big for Society to listen to every week? Well there is now. If you become a supporting member over at Patreon, you get a special members only episode every single week on Wednesdays, and sometimes even more episodes. Head on over to patreon dot com. Forward slash the Bigfoot Society and now let's get on with the show our Big for Society. We got the privilege of talking to two gentlemen today. Their names are Greg Tucker and Charles McLoud. They are bigfoot researchers from central Kentucky and they have been involved with some really interesting things over Man, you guys can correct me in a little bit, but I want to say it feels like it may have been a year. Maybe it's less, maybe it's more. But just to give some background and they'll provide their own version of this, I'm sure but listeners that have listened to the podcast for a while, you're familiar with Mark Paul from Clay County, Tennessee, who's got some really interesting, fantastic things going on on his property. Now. The last episode I did with Mark, he had said people could reach out and they could reach out to me and

1:31 then I could let Mark know. Thankfully, Greg reached out quickly enough so that I can make the connection between him and Mark. But thankfully, I can't imagine if the connection between Greg and Charles and Mark had never been made. And listeners will find out in the next few minutes exactly what has happened at this property over the last few months. But Greg and Charles, it's a privilege to have you on the show finally to share what you've found down there. And welcome to the show guys. Thank you, Jeremiah, it's a pleasure to be with you today and thanks again for having us on your show. Yeah, so listen many times. Very glad to be here.

2:14 Thank you so much. Guys. Before before I let you get into it, is there anything that the listeners would need to know about either of you besides that you are bigfoot researchers from Central Kentucky. Yeah, to bring your listeners up to date. Charles and I have been a friends since high school. In probably the last eight years, we do a lot of hiking in the Danubue National Forest throughout central southern Kentucky, even down into Tennessee the Big South Fork in those areas, and over the years we had a lot of strange things happened to us, but we never could pindpoint at me personally as a younger adult. I'm in my mid fifties, but I've watched In Search of with Leonard D. Boy and seen the Patterson Gimbling film. I think it was a late seventies, maybe nineteen eighty, and I always thought that looked real to me as a child from the lens of a child, But I was always thankful that we didn't have those creatures in Kentucky, which my life changed a few years ago with confirmation of those creatures being here. So since that, actually has been multiple encounters that Charles and I have had in the woods, and it's just a passion that we have to learn more about these species.

3:30 One of my favorite sayings when it comes to bigfoot, You're not going to see one at the Dollar store. You have to get out in the woods. You have to spend time in the woods, not on the main trails. Just get completely off trail and go and said, it's fascinating what you will see if you're looking. Most people just walked through the woods, never glanced down. You're stepping in footprints. And I have no idea of it. Something that you hear file that's not always a wallmute or something pay attention. We heard, I bet thirty different quote unquote walnuts fall until one day we saw the rock bounce off a tree and that's like, rocks don't grow in trees, and all I had just started to come together.

4:16 So you start looking at the ground or for footprints, and then you find footprints and it's pretty easy to tell if they're in the area or not. The areas that we're looking in is really remote. It's nothing to just get off of a trail and be able to walk ten miles without hitting the road or house or anything. That's the areas where they're at. Absolutely. Greg and I have been talking for hours on the phone over the last year. It feels like and just about amazing things that have been going down at this property. But Greg would you be able to share your version of how you got involved with Mark and it start us down the road to what you've got going on here.

5:00 Yes, Charles said, we've been been going off trail a lot and finding these creatures in the forest. It's just the true proverbial looking for a moving needle in a moving haystack. And I've listened to your episode four O seven. I think it was in the April of twenty twenty four when that premiere and mister Paul had it extended an invitation to anyone. I think his invitation I can't remember it verbatim, but if you want to be a big if you want to see a bigfoot, reach out to Jeremiah. So that's when I reach out to you, Jeremiah, and I briefly told you that Charles and I research on our own. We were fortunate. We've got thermal equipment, we've got drones, long duration recorders. We try to leverage technology the best we can and it's helped us immensely.

5:47 But we've seen mister Paul's property as an opportunity to not be looking for that proverbial moving needle and a moving haystack. Because once we went down there. We initially made contact with Mark and had several phone calls with him for us to get to know each other better. And then the first trip down, I'd went myself. Charles and I talked about it. People really don't understand how intelligent these creatures are, so we didn't want to do anything with me and Charles going there. We didn't want to disrupt any potential patterns that they may have, or agitate them or aggravate them. So I just went down.

6:28 I think it was in Actually, hold on here second, and I will tell you when I went down. I'm pulling up my notes here. It was on April ninth, twenty twenty four. I visited mister Paul's home. I went down earth in the morning. We went around his property and I was just amazed at the footprints the tree breaks, small structures that sort of indicative of juveniles. Our theory is they watch Dad build a structure, they build a small one and the very I'd stay down that first day, probably till about ten pm Central Standard time, and that very first day I called a thermal image of a juvenile sasquatch across the street from mister Paul. His front porch, and I was just amazed.

7:21 I gonness that that quick. And it takes a little bit of work to get to Mark's area, right like, it's from what I know, it's out in the woods a bit. Yeah. On the screen there, I've got some of the stuff you'll see here are going to be pictures, audios, and thermals that Charles I An are going to present today. But we've just put together a little PowerPoint and you can see Clay County, Tennessee. We've shaded that in and red. So from central Kentucky where Charles and I are at, it's about a three hour and fifteen minute drive one way to Mark's property. And yes, Mark, he is way out in the country.

8:01 This is close to Overton County as well, right, guys, Yeah, okay, And. Part of our presentation today we did go into standing Stone State Park, which is an Overton County, Tennessee, and from mister Paul's property. As the crow flies, you're probably about three three and a half miles to being in standing Stone State Park in state. Fours guys, I would say, let's get right into it. I'll let you go right ahead. Okay, Charles and I we've gotta. We just want to briefly do our disclaimers just to let everyone know Charles and I are not snake old salesman and we're not here to hoax fabricate. Everything we present on this show is the real McCoy. And we also asked that anything that you may know about Bigfoot, whether it's first hand experience, friends or family, or anything you've heard on other podcasts, we just asked that you give us a clean slate, and at the end of our presentation then compare what you may know firsthand experience, secondhand experience, and our last caveat is all images, videos, audio recordings that we present are not altered, manipulated, enhanced, nor is their genesis attributed to artificial intelligence. The only thing that has been done to those is I put my copyright in those. Just to protect our efforts. We give these pictures freely. We just don't want someone to come along and make a

9:32 profit off of those We do our research for. We hope to move the needle closer to the recognition of the sasquatch species and eventually their protection. So we're not out here trying to make a buck in any shape, form or fashion. If listeners. Remember in the show, I've mentioned how there's research going on in the background that nobody knows about at this time, and that it's probably some of the best This is what I was talking about. Feel free to go right ahead, guys. Okay, So in trying to get that clean slates, so Charles and I got a reflection. It's from Arthur Schopenhauer and he talks about truth and he says all truth passes through three stages. First, the truth is ridiculed, which we're all familiar with that in this community. Second, the truth is violently opposed, and then thirdly, it is accepted as being self evident. So just to give you a little bit more information about Charles and I are motivation for sasquatchs research. As I stated previously, we believe species recognition and protection is where this needs to go. Whatever we can do to move that needle closer, that's our mission.

10:52 And secondly, people have the right to know about these creatures. I think for the most part, these creatures just don't want anything to do with humans. But we've had some violent encounters before the Paul property. And if you're an individual or you're your family and you enjoy the outdoors, and you enjoy being in national forest and remote areas. You have a right to know about these things because you obviously we're going to have to do your due diligence in making protection and safeguarding yourself or your family and friends. And lastly, and we'll get into this a little bit later, but I am just amazed at the number of people, just not in recent memory, the seventeen sixteen hundreds, eighteen hundreds, nineteen hundreds that have reported these creatures and newspaper articles about these creatures and encounters with people of these different errors. But is to vindicate those people, a lot of people. If you go through any human society, honesty has always been considered a key moral virtue. You can look at the Egyptian, the Venetians, the Greeks, the Romans in honesty, in being able to be truthful even when it's difficult or inconvenient, we're going to bring some bad things on you. I just say thank you to all those people who have come forward with their encounters and sasquatch, and thank you Jeremiah for your show in providing a platform for these people.

12:20 In the last seven years, Greg and I have not missed a weekend hiking trip or if it was raining, snow and whatever, we didn't miss a trip. Some of them were night hikes, some of them were morning hikes. And over that period we have found four different camp sites where the people the tenths were tore down their backpacks, everything was still there. They just left and never came back got their stuff for some reason. And when we would find them, you know, they were at different times. You know, this is over a seven year period of time, but in the same five mile radio area, and we would find a you know, an abandoned campsite with backpacks that were worth several hundred dollars and other stuff still there.

13:09 The tent would be tore down and we would just leave it there and then come back, you know, three weeks or a month later to check it and it would still be there, as was it after the third one that we actually told the police about it. Was there any missing people or anything going on, But yeah, when people are hiking off trail, they've got to be on their toes. To this day, we still have no idea what was up with those four tamp sites. And that was up in Kentucky. Yes, yeah, yeah, Central Kentucky London area. Yeah, Cane Creek Wildlife Management Area Hawt Creek area for any of your listeners from there with the London, Kentucky area. But one other thing I would like to add. Don't you know that this Thanksgiving in Christmas twenty twenty four holidays was probably the most significant in memory. And I say this because everybody our family gatherings, we might have an uncle that's a little bit different, or an ann or something that may have talked about seeing something or UFO or whatever.

14:22 Don't you know that the most spoken word over these two holidays was I told you, Like Charles said, we've been hiking for many years. We just had really strange things happen that we could not explain, from rocks flying out in the middle of nowhere at us to finding tortoise shells eight foot up in a tree lamb footprints. Like Charles said, we started being more aware of our environment. We've been paralleled, We've had screams, and then we, like I said, we finally had an encounter, and we've had several, but that led us up to the Paul property because, like I said earlier, it it's really hard when you're remote areas or the wilderness. I believe it's up to the sasquatch creatures whether you're going to see them or not.

15:07 They have every advantage over us. They have size, they have speed, they have a great sense of smell. They can see a night which we can't. So when you're in those wilderness areas, it's just going to be a challenge and infrequent. That's what really drew us after listening to mister Paul's story. The things that he described, those are things that we have observed firsthand, and we knew that there was something there and we had talked about if it really is and it pans out to be, what a wonderful opportunity rather than having an encounter every six or nine months, but to be able to see and document these creatures more regularly. And that was our desire for reaching out to you, to get a hold of mister Pault.

15:50 Big for Society will be right back. After these messages, absolutely, the things that Mark were sharing with me and the photos that he would send me all the time. Myself, I knew Mark had something special there, but I also knew that most of my listeners were just not going to get it. And I was like, Man, I just wish someone could check this place out. And so I was so happy when you guys reached out, When Greg you reached out, I was like, and especially when Greg started sharing with me what his plans were, how he and he'll get into this, I'm sure. Like the amount of tech that you put into Mark's property is incredible.

16:57 It's up there with shows like Expedition Big Fur. It's absolutely insanity, Like it's levels above anything else. Hats off to you want. To touch them in it On the juvenile big Fish, they don't have phones or anything for entertainment. Their only form of entertainment is when they see humans in the woods and it's a game to them to just spy on hikers or anybody like that, much like we did when we were kids. How you would get out and hide behind cars and spine that's where their only entertainment. And then like trail cams, My favorite one is how come people don't catch them on trail cams? Oh, you mean the ones with a little red laight that stayed on all the time. If when those was in your bedroom with that stick out, because this is their house, this is where they live. A red light all of a sudden glowing. They're not going to get around that sticks out too much.

18:02 All right, So moving on, we're fixing to get to the good stuff here. And for your audience, what you're seeing on the screen now is a picture we had sent a drone up. We use a drone usually in the winter when there's no pulage on the trees, so you can actually see stuff. But this just gives you an idea of the vast timber. Here is the road in front of the Paul property. How you get to it. But if you just look out beyond here. I had looked at a this had been some time ago, but online they have distance horizon calculators, So at four hundred foot up you're basically seeing out about twenty miles on that horizon there, So you basically have got thirty miles in width here and twenty miles in depth. And just look at that forest. And then when you look at the forest, look at the terrain here. These valleys, these are very steep. People, they're the majority of these valleys.

18:59 People can't walk up and down. You would need climbing gear or rope. There's very few places that humans could enter and make an egress. So we got this picture just so your folks understand the vastness here. Because Clay County, Tennessee, i'd read their twenty twenty census, there's only about seventy five hundred people that live in this county and what it's just timber and rugged land everywhere. And also the next slide we've got here is this is from one of our security cameras that we've mounted behind Mark's house, just to give you an idea. There's a dough in a fawn. There are bobcats, turkey, deer, foxes, you name it.

19:40 The wildlife is there, very dense vegetation force there. It's just amazing with say nature enthusiast paradise just for the beauty and aesthetics there. So let's get into the good stuff. So this is what I mentioned before the very first night I had went down the first day I went to is it, mister Paul that evening? This is a juvenile sasquatch right across the street that I captured. What I'd done is i'd taken a screenshot. I have a pulsar heathing on monocular and then I have a pulsar thermion rifle scope, and I had my rifle scope off my rifle and I'm set here at two magnification and you can see my crosshairs, and you can see right here at the bottom of the crosshair is the foot and his calf and knee is right there. And this dark area is a big vine that he was crossing over.

20:43 And you can see his heap signature. And I'm going to zoom in here you can see his arm, and right here is his face. And you notice this lighter shading there. I believe that to be hair on the top of his head and his back. You look at his leg here you can see a little bit of heat coming through his hair in this area right there. So that was our first night down in that. Like I said, I was on mister Paul's porch. It's a little bit out of focus, or we thought they would appear at they did not appear. They normally on the Paul property. As you're standing on his front porch. To the left is a big thick hedgerow. He had told me they come in there quite a bit. So I had preset and pre focused my thermal for much being up much closer about twenty yards and The picture you're looking at is about eighty five yards away. Like I said, it's across the street from mister Paul's house on his neighbor's property. It came up out of the woods and I was able to capture that. The picture on the left is what I had just presented, and then this picture on the right, I did a side by side the same thermal riflescope, and there is mister Paul standing to give you an idea, so you can see with the y access there that mister Paul on that radical site, he is right at six foot and then you compare

22:16 it to the juvenile here. This juvenile is probably two and a half three foot and at the bottom here I'm going to call out on the screen you'll see it. My radical when I captured the juvenile was a two x magnification. And then mister Paul and his dog is to the right here too, It also was two x. And I was standing on the front porch the exact same place that I got the juvenile the first day down there. That first day down we had went into the woods his property and I was just astonished at the tree breaks and not necessarily complete breaks, but the twists that they employ that we found partial footprints, we found good footprints, varying sizes. We knew that it was a definite hotspot, and for this to happen on the first night, it was simply amazing. After we got that, after we captured that thermal, We've got a cellar trail camera that we took down and when talking with mister Paul, there was a lot of activity behind his house, which was where the force begins. So we malted a cellar trail camera. It's a RECONEX hyper fire too for anyone interested, and every time it's triggered, it will take three photographs and I had it set to do a ten second video.

23:41 And the camera also has the capability for you to remote into it from anywhere that there's an app you can put on your cell phone and you can pull pictures randomly. So I could be in Kentucky and just I'm just gonna pull some pictures and see if I see anything. And I did that quite a bit, just knowing, just fearful if these creatures seen that, if they were used to going up in mister Paul's backyard and banging on the back of his house, that they seen that camera, it might put them at ease, it might make them uncomfortable. So I just randomly pulled pictures. So what I'm going to do here is pull up a picture. And you can see in the bottom of all the cellular camera pictures were embedded with the RECONEX outline and up here on the top left is the date. So this is six point twenty three at eight fifty six in the morning, thirty two seconds and I have circled this and you're going to see a face there. So these creatures. Years as a much younger man, I had served in the United States Navy, and not only the Navy, but the Air Force, an army. They have military occupational schools your profession or trade that you do while you serve in the military. But one of the schools that some trades go to is called SEER S E R E. And the Navy, so SYR is Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape.

25:13 So I think it's like a two or three week course. So teach people on aircrew, pilots, different mos specialties that may be in areas of potential danger if they got shot down or something bad happened, how to navigate out of hostile territory, and they'll teach a lot of different techniques for those four areas. But I can honestly say these sasquatch creatures could teach any seer class for any branch of the military. Because if you look at this guy right here where I've got that circle, you can see his one eyeball their and his left eyeball their. You can see his nose up here. You can see the outline of his head, and he is just barely peeking through that foliage. This guy this at his first rodeo.

26:02 He's right there. He's covered up, but he's got full view of this open area of the grass mowed down behind mister Paul's house, and he's just eyebowing the back of his house. So this picture was taken at eight fifty six. This next picture was taken this same day at eight fifty nine, roughly three three and a half minutes later. So I've got it marked here, and look at this guy. I believe this is a different sasquatch creature because its head is much bigger. Here you can see its nose. Its nose is not I don't know the exact term, but doesn't have a hood on it.

26:44 It's like the nostril is open there at the bottom, and I'll zume that back so you can see that a little bit better. So one of the things that Charles and I like to do is when we get pictures, we like to do a comparison side by side, and this is what you have. So this picture over here on the left hand side is the one that was made at I think it was a thirty two in the morning, and this other one is the last one i'd shown, And I'm just going to zoom these in a little bit so you can see them both together. So the individual on the left hand side of the screen, so you can look at his eyeball, both eyeballs right there, I'm doing this call out. And then this creature in the right picture, his eyeballs are right there. They're much bigger, and there you can see his nostril open.

27:39 Absolutely. I'll just pull that down before you get both of them, so your audience will get a good look there. But like I said, both of these pictures are made on six twenty three, twenty twenty four, roughly three and a half minutes apart, and you can see just how well these guys conceal and. Move them out, and it's incredible. Just blows my mind too. Let me try to bring this up a little bit more. Yeah, I'm and for your audience, I am. I've got a laptop and an extended monitor, and I'm presenting on the extended monitor. This is a pretty high definition monitor, so I'm hoping this resolution will come through very well for you to see as well.

28:26 Greg, is that an area of his property that a lot of activity would happen in. Yes, they they let me bring up the previous picture here just to show this right here is mister Paul's home and you can see the tire swing. We put that up thinking we could lure a juvenile out to play with it for the camera, but that didn't pan out very well for us. But you could see this open area and when discussing with mister Paul, these guys, these creatures would come up and bang on the back of his house we had and they'd done it quite a bit. I think he said it was averaging every week and a half to two weeks. And I don't believe there was any malicious intent on their part. I really believe they're just not accustomed to no human customs or procedures of like knocking on the front door, which they would obviously never do. But Charles and I even talked about we believe this is their way of just saying hello, and we could be totally wrong.

29:31 Big for society will be right back. After these messages. They the area then, and there had just so densely populated that we were down there one day cleaning up around the trailer and I had a weed eater and I had it turned up straight there getting some higher branches cleared out, and it ended up getting a picture with the camera that's there now. And then Greg got to zooming and you can see one that wasn't fifteen or twenty foot from me, that was in the woods, sitting out there watching me, just plain as day. They can blend in just the shadows and the movement. It's hard to see something if it's not moving, and they will stand still. You have to look to be able to see them. They don't make mistakes, they have no branches or anything like that. They're masters of hiding.

30:49 I think it's the first time I've seen those photos. It just totally blows my mind. The food down there is just like up here in Kentucky, we have great that grow in trees, but down there in this area they actually produced grapes, big huge grapes. So like when you're walking through the woods, there's grapes laying all over on the ground. For Sam and Walta's hickory nuts, pairs, all kinds of deer. Luckfallago, there was six deer in the front yard. Just a lot of times we'll be down there for eight hours and maybe three vehicles will pass on the road in front of the house. They're just no people or traffic or anything in that area.

31:38 So this is a different series of pictures we're going to bring up. So this picture is six dated. It was taken on six three, twenty twenty four, at eight o three in the morning, and I circled this there and I'm zooming in and there you can see the face and that open nostril. Again you see an Indo vigil peaking at the cellar trail camera. U. Yeah, so you can see it. I mean, like Charles is saying, these guys are masters of camouflage. These are just random pools that I'd made with the cellar trail camera to capture these series of pictures were presenting. The cellar trail camera is set up with a motion sensor that detects heat.

32:27 But we really believe they anything out of the ordinary they know, maybe they know what a cell camera is or a trail camera. I have no idea, but anything new or out of the ordinary, they just want nothing to do with it. And here's a picture, and I'm going to zoom out here. This is probably thirty or forty foot from the cellar trail camera that was mounted on the corner fence post at the Paul property. And like I said, you can clearly see the nostril. You can see both nostrils right there. You can see the recessed eyes there of heavy brow ridge. So this picture right here was at eight o three in the morning, seventeen seconds. This next picture is at eight sixteen, so roughly thirteen and a half minutes the same area. So I'm going to zoom in there and you can see that there was some movement, just to show that the previous subject in the picture is no longer there, just to give folks an idea. And then here's the side by side comparison. Like I said, we like to do the side by side comparisons and give you some more information.

33:42 What we would do is we would bring the picture up on our screen. We would use the window snipping tool, we would make a screenshot, and then we would put both pictures together, lining them up and down. Here at the bottom you'll see this is the zoom magnification for this picture at one hundred and twenty one percent and then the second picture of one hundred and twenty one percent. We'd always make sure those parameters are the same. Owners. How tall is that that right? There? Is about seven foot? Okay, wow, yeah, We'll go on to our next series of pictures. This picture was taken on five twenty nine, twenty twenty four, at twelve oh three. This the cellar trail camera. I set it to always take one picture a day to make sure the system's working. Because as it takes a picture, the app I have on my phone, it would notify me and I can pull it up and look at the picture from my phone. So even though this camera was in Tennessee, I'm in Kentucky, I can still see what's going on. I can even live remote into the cellular trail camera when I'm in Kentucky and it's in Tennessee or anywhere else. But I got to looking and you can see right here this one was a really strange picture.

35:02 You can see an outline, you can see what appears to be something pretty hairy, two eyeballs. There's one and there's the other. There's the mouth, there's the chin area. Looks like maybe a hand over the fence there. That's hard to see. I'll zoom that in a little bit more. M Can you see that right? Yeah, that's very interesting. Yeah, it's really the reason that we chose this picture. It's almost like the light, the sunlight is being diffracted. I mean that this subject is very I'm not going to say a cloak or anything like that, but it's like the light is being bent as it hits it.

35:47 And I know there's been a lot of discussion in the Sasquatch Bigfoot community of these creatures hair samples having no medella in their hair. Even that trade happens in human much from what I read, but it's normally very rare that it happens in humans, and they're normally Scandinavian descent, and that their hair the shaft has no material in it, And it makes you wonder if that's what's going on here is this individual's hair. Because it lacks any material in the modela, does it make it shady or fuzzy. So this picture right here was taken, like I said, at twelve o three on five twenty nine, twenty four.

36:29 The second picture was taken at twelve thirteen on the same day, so roughly ten minutes later, and clearly you see nothing there. Oh yeah. And then when you do the comparison the side by side here on the right there you can see what appears to be some type of creature, and then ten minutes later over here on the left, there's nothing. We thought that one was very strange. It just makes you wonder, yeah, weird. So we'll go on to our next picture, our picture number five. So this was one of our first pictures, really good pictures that we got with the Celier trail camera.

37:16 Like I said, down here in the bottom you can see the Raconnax logo and we're zooming in here. The both of these trees here are black walnut trees and you can see nothing in between those two trees right there. So this is at eight o seven in the morning, just by sheer luck that twelve oh, three PM picture that the camera is set to take every day so that we know that it's working. Now you see something there. Oh, we zoom that in a little bit more. Now you can see there's the eyes, there's the nose, and this creature I would guess is probably of the female. And I don't know, it almost looks like it has ears, maybe on the top of its head. I don't know.

38:15 All the sasquatches I've seen have ears just like humans do, and even for their size, their ears seem to be proportionally smaller than that of humans. Does it almost look like it's peeking around a tree or what? Do you guys think? Yeah, it is. So you can see the ground there, and I'm going to bring up another picture here. So this was This picture was taken in the fall, and one of the things that we did this walnut tree. You can see me call out with the mouse. You'll see an orange line there. You'll see an orange line there. We mark trees around the back of his home when one foot increments to help us gauge sizes, and you can see that goes all the way up. Like I said, this was taking in the fall. You see a lot of leaves or off the tree. But going back to this individual, this individual is about seven seven and a half foot tall. And I'll do I'll bring up the comparison to two pictures together. So you'll see over here on the left, you see nothing at the eight three am and then here you see the twelve o three.

39:19 You'll see it right there. It's like its body is behind Now this is a bigger walnut tree, so it's it's hiding. It's concealing its body behind the walnut tree there, and then it's just peeking its head around and then it's looking directly at that cellar trail camera. Pull that back a little bit so you can see both of. Them daylight, yeah. And for your for your audience. So the picture over here on the left that doesn't have anything in the morning, the front of mister Paul's home points to the east, so you get a lot of that morning sun coming in in this area. In this area is chicken coop area.

40:10 That's an old chicken coop from the home that used to be there years ago, next to his property, and they use that for concealment as well. They'll travel around behind it and peek out. You'll see them from time to time. But I'll bring the picture back up this little bit better resolution for your audience to see, and I'll zoom in to let them get another good look there. But that is a I'll say, I'm guessing it's a sasquatch, But I think sasquatch are a lot like humans. They have a lot of different from individual to individual. They have a lot of different traits just like humans do. Oh sure, absolutely, that's definitely not a deer. It's not a rabbit. What else can it be? And as even like.

41:00 Those nol that's for sure, Charles. So we'll go on to our last cellar trail camera picture, and this is one of our favorites. So actually, let me bring this picture up first once again. Down here in the bottom you'll see the raconac icon. This picture was made on June third, twenty twenty four, at six minutes after six pm, and that same walnut tree. We're going to zoom in here. Notice you see nothing up there other than the trees that circle area. The next picture was a few minutes before at six oh one pm on this same day, and there is the big guy.

41:50 I'm gonna zoom in a little bit there is one of our best pictures. You can clearly see the traits of the open nostrils, or what I'm calling the hood. It seems to like a hood. It's got a gray beard around its chin. There there's its left eye, and there's its right eye. This looks like you can see his arm, his shoulder right there going down, and it looks like this may be the belly with not as much hair. But now this is the sun coming from the west where it's later in the afternoon. But yeah, that guy is a monster. He's probably every bit of nine and a half to ten foot tall. Here is the comparison both of them together. Now you can see right here it's like he's just massive. And just so your audience knows, I had the crazy idea after we got this picture, and the next time we were remarks, I like, I'm going to climb up in that tree and pull a picture so you could see me as a size comparison.

42:57 Little did I realize that this limb right here, that was the only first limb that I could get to. That's about ten foot up. There's no way in the world I could get on that and so him, he is a monster. I would guess. I'm going to zoom in here a little bit more in the comparison picture, so from the bottom of his stomach there to the top of his head, I'm going to guess that's good. Five and a half six foot easy. That's being conservative. He may be a little bit taller. He's just a monster. My goodness, I'll. Pull that we can get and like I said, we've done everything. You can see the back of mister Paul's home and the picture on the left, and you know, to make sure we got it sized up or zoomed in at eighty six percent there we did, or excuse me, one hundred and forty six percent, and then on the picture on the left once again one forty six We were trying to match us up the best we could.

43:57 And just look at that guy there. He is a a hoss and he's looking over they bring up the like I said, the comparison pictures are screenshots that we made, and the pictures themselves have a little bit better resolution, and you can almost see whites in his eyes as he's looking out over mister Paul's home, like he's looking over across the street, over in the fields to the forest on the other side of mister Paul's property across the street. Mark would say something to the effect of, they're all over the place here, man, They're everywhere on my Property's like, yeah, like here it is.

44:38 Yeah, yep, yep. This one is one of our better pictures. Like, like I said, you get some real detail and I'm just like everyone else, i want to know what they look like. It's all about how big are they? What do they look like? And I'm just shocked. And this guy is like a like a Neanderthal, like maybe an ancient human who knows, but he definitely has a lot of human characteristics about him, you know, in his face and looking. At big for society who will be right back after these messages.

45:27 There's no doubt it's going on at mister Bull's property. Yeah, absolutely. I mean. The great thing about this One of the great things about this episode is that it's vindication for Mark as well, because when his there's a lot of interesting comments on those other episodes and just to be able to be like, yeah, well check out this stuff, guys. It's awesome. Absolutely so that that we that was picture number six from the Cellar Trail camera and our next progression in the investigation down there, we brought in a high definition security camera. We actually brought in four cameras, and the camera that sets in the back of mister Paul's property is a tilt pan zoom with a twenty five x zoom on it. It also has infrared lighting for nighttime, as do the three cameras that we put on his front porch. And the three cameras on his front porch or not tilt pan zoom. They're strictly Lorex security cameras, and we disabled the infrared on those, and we got flower pots and we drilled holes with a whole saw to hide those cameras in the three flower pots out front of his house and the hopes of catching these guys.

46:52 With that being said, we're going to move on to the security camera out back and this is wanting to be actually I'm going to do this. I'm going to bring up this picture first, So what your audience, just so they know this white dot there is a moth that's flying. You'll see another one there. You'll see one there, You'll see one there. There's obviously a lot of bugs, moths, cicadas, things like that. And I'm going to zoom in and you'll see at the forest line that eye shine. Now, since we deployed the security cameras, these guys avoid on't like the plague that this is as close as they'll get.

47:40 But here it is nighttime, the infrared illumination is on. That's what you're seeing, and there is an eye shine. This is a still photograph taken from the video that I'm going to pull up here and drag over so you can see the eye shine. And as it happened, let me let me haulse it and bring it up, and just for the audience, I put an arrow that's going to gray in and out showing you whoever the eye shine is. And I'll hit play here. So is it gets to the end of the video, you're going to see the eye shine disappear and I'll play it one more time there. So here this creature is at the back of Mark's home, stoop down in the grass and the weeds and stuff, and just looking out at Mark's house. And I'll bring the picture back up. Actually this is a different picture. It's the same picture you've seen previously, but I was playing around trying to lighten it up, and I'm going to zoom this in here, and you can see the eyes there, and you can see the outline of a head right there. But once again it's concealed in all these weeds and foliage there as it's looking at the back of mister Paul's property at the back of his home.

49:07 Any idea how high up those eyes are from the ground. Those are probably about four foot up. But now whether that individual is standing fully erect or on its knees, we don't know. We just called that and like I said, tilt pan zoom camera at the back of his home. It has an infrared illuminator. These guys can see in that spectrum. These creatures can see in that. That's why they just don't come around to get them and open. But like I said, these are these white dots or moths flying around other bugs. It's amazing the bugs there at night time, and the infrared light seems to attract them as well. I'll play the video one more time here and then it's like it closes it's left eye and then it closes the right. It doesn't close both of them simultaneously. And we've noticed that in seeing them at marks property, they would definitely win staring contests. But when they do blink, it's not both eyes. They'll either blink their right eye and then maybe five or ten seconds later, then they'll blink their left eye once again.

50:26 It's almost like there's a strategy, there's some cognition there, not losing what they're looking at. They'll only blink one eye at a time. It makes you wonder in the next eyeshine picture that we have now, I'm actually going to bring up a daytime photo, so this is a comparison. So on the left here is obviously a daytime picture. This is the walnut tree that we got the female creature on the cellar trail camera. Just a little bit different angle when we've mounted this secure tilt pan zoom camera and we've got our tick marks there. They're a little bit out of focus there, but you can see the orange marks representing one foot. So right here on the right is a nighttime eyeshine picture we got. And as you're looking at that right here is the masonry block.

51:20 Right here's the masonry block. Trying to line those up. This creature just trying to come straight across, is falling in this area right here. So that's one two three, four, five, and then to the ground six foot, so it's between six and seven foot. It's falling in this area right there, and you can see it's camouflage. It's hiding behind that wallnut tree peeking its head out, and you can see the eye shine right there, the two eyes. And then this is a normal hold on here we get the right picture here it is I'm going to zoom this in. This is an actual photograph taken, so you can see there peeking around there. And then here is the video we got of him peeking around from the security camera.

52:16 There is see how he just blinked him for about two seconds. Yep. There is now close the size play one more time as open as closed. So they're pretty elusive. So something I've noticed so far is that you have it's it looks like multiple individuals, multiple heights on this property. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. In our observations what we and with a lot of information coming from Mark, it appears to be two different family groups. Family Group A is only three individuals.

53:03 Family Group B is five to six individuals. Both Family Group A, the one juvenile is a very small juvenile, and then Family Group B also has a very small juvenile sort of. I'm guessing the same age based on their sizes, but it appears to be two separate family groups. You can sit in front of the house for eight or ten hours and you just don't see any traffic. One or two neighbors that live there are relatively close. They're like in their eighties, no children, Each one lives by themselves, and they're just really no foot traffic out in there to mess with them. I think they've taken advantage of that and just set up camp. I think they're staying in that same area and really never leaving.

53:53 Oh. I would agree, and I don't want to get on a rabbit trail. But I'm just remembering how Mark would share that it's not just his property that are having issues. His neighbors all around him are having just really interesting encounters with these bigfoot and maybe other things as well. A lot of times when we would leave out of there, it would be dark and you pass probably three or four houses on his road going back out to the next road, and every one of them would have those little solar lights, so you put out in your yard hundreds of them just to light up their yard so that they would stay further away. Why else would anybody have that many of them up.

54:40 Yeah, you definitely see in one of the things. Another thing that we noticed there it appears when these creatures go to certain neighbors of Marks, that they will shoot in the hopes of warding them off. And I think it was my third visit that I had made to Mark's house. It was late afternoon, and it was actually when I was trying to do some size comparison with the thermal and I Mark was out at the road and we heard a wood knock, and I mean it was a really strong and loud wood knock. And then I left his porch and I started going out there and we heard the wood knock again, and on the they were on the other ridge of Mark in that area where the wood knock was coming from. It was down in the Creek Valley Park. They started shooting what I think was a pistol maybe a nine milimeter, could have been a forty five, but I think it was a nine millimeter. They emptied the clip, and that sasquatch just beat that tree harder, and then they got another clip, emptied it, and that sasquatch continued to tree knock. He was he or she. I don't know if what sex it was, but it just absolutely wore that tree out, and it seemed like the gunshot just agitated or motivated that to do more when knocking.

56:03 And something along that lines. As obviously, the older ones teach the younger ones where the water sources at or where the food sources at, and let's pass down from generation to generation of them. All the years we've spent hiking, a lot of it happen to be during hunting seasons. I think that they're smart enough that they have put it together that if they hear one shot, wait a few hours, there's a good chance that was a deer hunter. And the first thing a deer hunter does is guts his animal. That leaves a big gun pile sitting there that they can get without putting any energy into getting it.

56:48 So I think that when they hear one gun shot, I think an hour or so that they might go toward that one gun shot. I think like down there at Marks where somebody fired many gunshots and then the bigfoot went off with the massive tree knocking, I think that was its way of letting other bigfoot, no, no, don't go to this. It's they're shooting. This is not a free meal. This is multiple shots. And that's what that just wrap and tree dogs meant, stay away, don't come here. Absolutely, And Jeremiah you mentioned you know the fam you know, asking about the different sizes, so that this is a another trail cam photo. And I've highlighted two areas. But right here on the left you can see a black image of something pretty small right there, almost like an eye right there, and another eye the nose right there.

57:50 So this picture was taken on six ' three at ten fifteen in the morning. The picture on the right here was the same date at ten thirty six, some sixteen minutes later. There's one of your juveniles. Oh my goodness. Yeah, this is this is a brush wheat pile that Mark had behind his property and those guys it's just cover, foliage, cover for them to come up. But you can see that, right there's a juvenile. You can don't know how much it's distorting. Zoomed in this closed you can see the nose, the eyes, you can see the hairline around the face.

58:34 Right there's the mouth. I'll bring it down just a little bit, trying not to distort it as much. The exact same thing jumped out to me before you had to explain it. Yeah, no, I think it's right there, man. Yeah, And I'm going to pull up another trail camera picture. That's the one. We've already showed that one that this is something I've been hesitant to talk about, but I'm going to talk about it. So this is another comparison picture as we do. It's picture on the left and picture on the right. This picture was taken on five twenty nine at fifteen fifteen or three fifteen in the afternoon.

59:15 This one right here was taken roughly five minutes later on that same date. Right here, the picture on the right, you can see what looks like an individual or you can see their right eye, you can see their left eye. There's some foliage, you can see a nose, you can see the top of its head there the bottom over here. Though, like I said, these pictures are roughly five minutes apart. Doesn't that look like a dog in that same location about seven and a half foot up in the tree. Oh we go, we're gonna bring that stuff into it. We're gonna bring that into. Oh good, I was like, I hope he does, because it's nuts dude the stuff.

59:56 Yeah, yeah, you know them where we can see both of them. Yeah, say that one's body where it comes down. So this one's got the sun coming throat. Yeah, this one the sun's been blocked out where it can't come through. This one. You've got all kinds of sun coming. And this one on the left here, look at those eyes that I definitely the eyes are different, like it's reflecting the sunlight more so than the creature on the right over here, you. Know, and the plagued when they going back in standing on the branch right there. And just so your listeners know, to fill this in the first night I went to mister Paul's property and we got that juvenile. There was another creature that had ears on top of his head, and it was like ten seconds in front of the juvenile picture that I presented.

1:00:51 It's almost like there's you know, these dog men type creatures and these big foots seem to be friends or work together, because they were definitely if they were some type of enemies or didn't get along, a juvenile sasquatch wouldn't be with a dog band creature in my opinion. No, you had told me that there's dog man in this area as well, and other people have told me as well. This was the only daytime picture of a potential dog man creature there on the left that you're seeing the thermal. I don't think I have that one easily available, and it really this picture does it more justice. There's more to be drawn in looking at it and examining it than the thermal because, like I said on that first night, using that thermal rifle scope, the focus is it's not an automatic focus on the end of that radical. You have a manual adjustment you have to do, and it's very stiff to compensate for the recoil of a shotgun or a rifle. And I had preset the focus on that for about twenty five thirty yards, not eighty eighty five yards. When we got that first creature. I just happened to be scanning to the right. And I've seen this big thermal hit with ears on top of its head in the face that you see right here in this picture matches up what that thermal would look like if you've seen a daytime representation of it.

1:02:22 No, it's one of the craziest thermal photos I've seen, and maybe someday you'll be able to show that a different time. But yeah, though there's without a doubt both of those creatures are on that property. Absolutely, yeah, yep, yep, yeah, And that's the only time, just that first day and then of course here on five twenty nine, twenty four of the cellar camera the dog man. If that's what they are that we were able to capture with anything, it's very interesting. Like I said, those two individuals, the juvenile sasquatch and the dog man creature, they were together. So I know a lot of people have talked about sometimes they don't get along. For other shows where people have had encounters with both types of those creatures and they seem to get along fine. So whatever's going, you know with mister Paul's property, they seem to have an understanding and agreement and potentially work together.

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