Oct. 3, 2024

Breaking Bigfoot with Jesus Payan, Jr.

Join us as we sit down with Jesus Payan Jr., a Hollywood actor, stuntman, and cryptid UFO researcher. With over 30 years of experience, Jesus shares his incredible journey into the world of Bigfoot and Sasquatch research. From childhood experiences in...

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Season 1

Join us as we sit down with Jesus Payan Jr., a Hollywood actor, stuntman, and cryptid UFO researcher. With over 30 years of experience, Jesus shares his incredible journey into the world of Bigfoot and Sasquatch research. From childhood experiences in Loch Ness, Scotland, to working alongside renowned figures in the cryptid community, Jesus provides firsthand accounts of his encounters and research throughout New Mexico, Oklahoma, and beyond. He also delves into intriguing UFO sightings and potential military connections to these mysterious creatures. Whether you're a Bigfoot believer or a skeptic, this episode is packed with fascinating stories and theories that will leave you questioning what might be out there.

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with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society. You've got the

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privilege of talking to mister Jesus Paan today. He is

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known for a variety of things. He's been a Hollywood actor,

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stuntman and cryptidufo researcher for over thirty years. Jesus, how

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we're we doing tonight?

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I am good.

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That's awesome. Been looking forward to talking to you for

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quite a while, my friend. Thank you for coming on

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the show. I've heard that you've been into a lot

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of interesting things regarding your bigfoot research. But let's start

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right from the beginning. What was it that first got

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you into researching sasquatch or foot.

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Well, when I first started out, I was about four

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years old and my mom had a book called Arthur

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she It was Arthur she Clark's Book in the Serious World,

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and that was like the first time I ever saw

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anything that bigfoot related in there, and I saw the

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Luckiness Monster. I was going in England with my parents

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and we went to the Luckiness in Scotland and hunted mess.

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You for two weeks on the rock and yeah, so

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it started early for me. And also it was like

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I was seeing UFOs already, you know, by that time,

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it's barely between four and five. And when I was

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seeing my first UFOs that I can remember about a

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little over hours drive for me was the Rendell Randallstrom

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forest incident front of you heard of that. It's like

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England's rather well exactly, there was a lot going on.

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And then when I came to the States anytime, and

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you known element Shu, we had have those scholastic little

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book sales. Anything that was you know, cryptid related or

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UFO or anything, I always would you try to get

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and then it didn't I would say, it didn't become

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actual research until after two thousand. Okay, so after two thousand,

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that's when I first got to experience it physically by

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being chased. Me and my friend were chased by what

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I believe was an adolescent sasquatch. Well for us, it

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looks like a six foot tall, you know, full grown,

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you know, scary thing, but six foot tall sasquatch is

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pretty short for especially a maw you know, in that world.

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But yeah, that was my first taste of the unknown

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officially as in cryptid wise, So my folks we moved

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to Ridelso, New Mexico. My mom got a job at

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the forest apartment and my sister got a job at

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the local police department, and we moved into a cabin there.

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And on the first couple of days we were there,

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I got to hear a bigfoot screen called yodle, a

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long light pitch, almost like if you if you were

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going really fast down the road and you just like

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at least ninety there was no anything but hit and

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you just slamed on your brakes and just held onto

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your backs until you stopped. IT'SOK, a real long That's

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something I could describe, something like something's skiddy, but it

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was just way too long. And we're in the mountains

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and the little straight roads to do that. Everything in

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the four shut up. My mom was right there, my

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ball was right there, my center was right there, and

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it just got super duper quiet, you know. I was like,

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what the heck was I you know, And then it

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did it again, and my mom joked, so maybe it's bigfoot,

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and I was not. I think it is. I think

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it is. And I ran inside, jumped on the computer

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and looked up bigfoot audio calls, you know, recordings of sasquatch,

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and I found one that matched exactly what we just heard.

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And then that was when it got really I guess addictive.

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And my mom working with the Force apartment, they would

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get reports from campers and some of their their control

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guys and rangers, but they couldn't do the investigating because

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it's not supposed to exist. But there are allowed to

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tell me about it. You know, they didn't say who reported,

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but they tell me the area was reported. And my

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sister would also get you know, big the police department

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get big foot reports and we're gonna have to go

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check them out because it's not supposed to exist. So

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I would end up learning all the different areas that

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they were at and start that's when I really started

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doing my research. I'd say two thousand and three issue

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or what i'd call research versus just thinking it's real

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cool and trying to beat up on anything that could

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I could find, because back then YouTube wasn't what YouTube

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is today. The Internet wasn't you know what it is today,

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and you know, unless you're uber rich in that that

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time went on in two thousand and three, So I'd

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say that's when I officially started doing actual research into it.

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That is absolutely fascinating. What was your age at that

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time period in two thousand and three?

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In two thousand and three, I was thirty three.

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Okay, that's cool. So you're thirty three. Your mom was

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getting you the reports from the forestry department, your sister

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was giving you other stuff from the police department. Man,

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that sounds like an absolute dream and you're living your

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real life X files out there, but all.

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Big five, oh times three, Oh my goodness.

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What was the craziest thing that you saw come in

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through from your mom or your sister?

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I would say. Rancher called and he reported that his

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cattle were freaking out. His dog started freaking out, so

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he ran out to the field and he saw a

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sasquatch trying to steal a cow and it was grabbing

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it from behind. I'm guessinally you saw it and look

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kind of a kind of suspect her sus the way

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it was grabbing it. But it was just trying to,

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I guess, carry it off. But I grabbed it from behind,

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like I gues it was gonna do a heimlicunumber to

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the cow, and the cow was struggling and there was

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footprints left in the mud where the cow was moving

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forward a while the sasquatch is heels were digging in.

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And at the time, you know, I hadn't done anything casting.

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I didn't have any casting stuff either, so I didn't

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even think about it. I was just like, oh wow,

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because I found out where it was, I went to

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go talk to the guy and yeah, there was traction

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and everything still, So to me, that one was the

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weirdness from my mom's from the forest apartment unofficially allegedly,

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and then from my sisters the police department reade up

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some downs. She got a phone call from a taxing

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woman from the reservation, and the lady was, you know,

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there was other phone calls and now I want too

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because she's standing in the middle of the street when

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move it said she wouldn't leave that spot until police

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came and picked her up because she was so scared.

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And what happened was this is in the middle of

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the daytime, early afternoon. She was walking by the Walgreens

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and was walked the street that goes kind of behind

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it and downward, you know, down to the canyon, and

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there was two sasquatch digging through the trash cans, the

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big old you know, there's big trash cans of the

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flippy lids the sores have And we had just recently

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had major fires, so a lot of the sasquatch and

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other animals were coming into town for you and looking

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for pood because everything was burnt. So she got so

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freaked out and when they when she you know, she screamed,

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they looked up and walked right back into you know,

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towards the canyon in the forest. And that's when she

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started freaking out and people, yeah, all the cops. And

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then when she since she got there, she told her

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the same thing and told her that she's not moving

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from that spot unless she my sister gave her a

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ride anywhere. But there she was go anywhere like specificly,

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just I don't want to be anywhere near this spot.

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Please just take me somewhere else, you know. So I

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thought that was out of the two, those are the

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most interesting from from a mom and my sister. Now,

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a very even more interesting occasion happened on the same

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area and muscalero'patri I was on the reservation hanging out

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with you know, some friends were having a little get

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together and this one lady comes up to me and she's, hey,

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they say that you're into the whole, you know, bigfoot

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sasquatch thing, the Harry Boys. And I was like, yeah, yeah,

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I kind of a She was with my neighbor. She

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was a single mom and she loves the story. She

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told me. Her neighbor, just a single mom with two kids.

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They were in their cabin and a female bigfoot in

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her they believe, with a male child, which was like

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fighting tall just you know, how to use the handle

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and a walk in her cabin and her and the

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kids ran into the room, locked the door, and the

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mother sasquatch in the child jasquatch, the juvenile rummaged through

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her kitchen in the fridge and we're eating stuff and

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just making a mess. And after about thirty minutes they

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had they finally had left and they came out of

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the room and the kitchen was all messed up, and

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she said, can you believe it? They left the door open.

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Oh the you know, the cold air got out. She

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was more mad at their conditioning situation. Then there's two

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freaking SPT squats in your house.

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That's that's that checks out, though, you know, funny, wow,

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it sounds like there's quite a bit of activity in

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that area.

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Oh yeah, from through all my research that I figured out,

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I've been like kind of following their trail because, like

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I said, after two thousand and three later I ended

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up becoming a law enforcement investigator, bought the guard no

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parent detention for the retention officer, and worked as a

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you know, a hearing officer. And so I was able

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to now and like really improve my investigative skills and

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tracking skills, and took every opportunity that my mom's the

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Ports Department would give, you know, classes, any type you

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know of anything to do with animals and tracks and

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you know, the local fauna. Because of that, I was

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able to start really putting together where they travel and

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how far they travel. And I didn't realize that Sasquatch

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do go through deserts and they're able to run one

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hundred miles and not a problem for them to just

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go and they able to travel all the way to

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a different mountain range. Here looking there was about sixty

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miles in between our mountain ranges and White Tins missile

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range the Hollmon Air Force Base that leads all the

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way to a Passo Texas and what is Mexico. And

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I followed the trail because there were reports from the

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military guys doing their patrol at the missile range and

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they report seeing sasquatch out there at night and one

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of them reported, you know, seeing one running with their

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hum V. They're driving that full full speed, you know,

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I think it was like forty five or fifty five

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or something, and it was keeping up. It was on

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all fours, just running with them. And then you go

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farther down the mountain range, which I believe the Oregon Mountains.

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Eventually they'll get to the border patrol area where the

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where the both border is and they have reports from

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the Border Club themselves at night ten using their flear

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you know, so you can see the heat signature, and

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they would occasionally see a sasquatch squatted inside a big

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bush waiting for legal immigrants. And there's been bodies found

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out there, you know, dismembered, but they say it's cartel.

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We don't know. But I think it's really interesting that

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in that same area there's hills, there, mountains, smaller mountains

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that have tons of old mines, okay, old silver mines,

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and tigress minds and the local urban legend for a

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long time in that area was that there's a witch

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then there's in those those caves and you go up there,

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she'll she'll catch you and eat you. And the description

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of the witch is about an eight foot tall, hairy

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covered monster. Mmm wow horn. Yeah.

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I want to verify. I want to I guess just

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make sure I heard it right something you said a

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minute ago. So you're saying that there are actual reports

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you've taken from border patrol where Sasquatch is pretty much

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dispatching or believed to dispatch illegal immigrants as they cross

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the border.

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My apastle my family I have. My uncle's was one

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of a sheriff in Pasto, Texas, and my other uncle

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is a police officer, and his son is a police officer.

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He's a detective there at the department now. And one

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of my other uncles was in the bar patrol. So

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I got to hear from you know them. And there's

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actually a video on YouTube with a border patrol agent

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telling the same story. It's on YouTube, like he's in

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uniform and everything. He's talking about them seeing big yeah,

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big poots out there.

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You know, that's absolutely fascinating. Do you get a lot

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of reports from that Holloman Air Force Base and the

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White Sands area.

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Not really too like Bunches. The base has a lot

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of wear crap going on because of the missile range,

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Like do you remember that movie or or hero of

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the movie Close Encounters of the Third Kind? Sure that

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happened here on that that missile range that it was

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based on that here. So there's there's more UFO reports

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here in that area of the of the base than Sasquatch,

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but they have been you know, multiple reports of of

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those weird things found out there. I think it's a

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big Sasquatch files or Bigfoot files with Lynn. Do you

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know her name? Lynn? Her name, Yeah, Yeah. She used

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to have the playlists of different reports and one of

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those like the reports from you know, wild Man from

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the eighteen hundreds and nineteen hundred reports, and then she

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had a section where it was military reports and in

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her in one of those videos, she also talks about

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Holloman Air Force Base talking about, you know, some of

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the reports that have been turned in from there. So

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I would say the more the most reports out here

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is normally UFOs and closer to the reservation, it's more

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common to hear about the Bigfoot situation. It's occasional in

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real big for society.

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Who will be right back after these messages?

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Also, which is everything from where I'm sitting right now

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in this moment, everything I'm talking about is pretty much

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within an hour at most. Well, I do the majority

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of my research, which I do it everywhere now, but

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the majority of my research I live at the base

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of the mountain here and it's in Cloud Cropt, New Mexico,

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and it's about fifteen to twenty minute drive from my location,

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so it's a right right here. And yeah, it's spicking

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that people are coming out more and more willing to

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talk about this because it's become mainstream, you know, the

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sasquatch deal, because of the Internet. But yeah, it's trip.

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It really, it really is. It's I mean, I've only

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been in this for about five years, and I can

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even see a difference over the last five years. It

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just continues to become more and more mainstream. The focus

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of the interview is definitely going to be on Bigfoot.

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But I am going to ask a question just because

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if I don't, my listeners would be like, why didn't

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you ask a question? So but we'll twist it, you see.

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So you're you're greatly known for playing a role in

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the show Breaking Bad. Correct, Yes, yes, sir. So during

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the filming of that show, did the topic of Bigfoot

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ever come up? Yes, out of the stories you can share.

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Well, the when you're in between scenes, sometimes there's an

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hour in between or or less or more depending on

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how technical the scene is, and they have to reset

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you know, everything, explosions or gunshots or whatever. So I

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would always be bored as hell and I'm curious, and

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i'd go, you know, talk to the other you know,

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actors and be gay man believe in Bigfoot, you know

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what I mean. And they'd be like, no, do you,

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and I'm like and then I would tell him, you know,

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experiences that I've had. So the one person that showed

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the most interest in it was R. J. Mittie. He

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plays Walt Junior. I'm Breaking Bad and yeah, I ended

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up me and him ended up being roommates and living

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in La together. So she was the most interesting, you

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know in big Foot. And I wanted to hear everything

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I had to talk about it and wanted to plan

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a hunt. And then his mom said no, that that

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would not be good for his career. And then yeah,

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I got offered two different TV shows. Do you remember

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the TV show Sons of Anarchy? Sure, yep, yeah, okay.

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There was a girl and an actress named Kristin Renton.

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She was the two main characters, their brothers, and one

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was named Toby and he had like a long beard.

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His wife on the show girlfriend, pretty girl. They were

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going to do a big foot hunting show with me

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and her because it became so they heard so much

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about you know, me and being connected with that stuff,

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and they thought to me, but it didn't work out.

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She ended up doing some other project and that never happened.

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Then I got offered another show that I was going

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to be doing it with Megan Fox and me, and

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it was gonna be us doing investigations around the world

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of all the weird stuff, you know, not just big foot,

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not just pupil, not just go She did not even

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a litt bit of everything and where it was all

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ready to go. And then Victoria's secret offered her, Oh,

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I was like quarter million dollars to go do a

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runway tour with them or something, and it paid price

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as much as that they were offered her to do

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the show. So she went with the Victoria's Secret Team

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and then met her new husband that you know today.

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But she done.

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Kelly, Kelly, what could have been? That would have been

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a very interesting show. And I mean, who knows, you

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may even get something offered in the future. I mean

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you get right.

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Yeah, well I had just got married, so that didn't

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work out too well. My wife was like no, no,

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she was like, no other come on, you know. So yeah,

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it was like the producers wouldn't mean and the Christien

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from the sense of anarchy to spend two weeks in

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the forest, no cameras, no nobody else, just meanto her,

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and they wanted me to teach her for two weeks

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every single thing possibly I knew about hunting and Ta squad,

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you know, so for the show and that was just

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did knocked out. You know.

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No, no, that that would have not made it better.

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I'm the professor, I'm the professional. I mean I'm not

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I'm not a dog, and I think I don't blame

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any that would be mentioned. But doing that, they'd be like, no, sorry, buddy.

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You know if that had happened that two week period,

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what kind of things would have you had brought up

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during that time.

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Well, first thing I would show her is how to

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recognize an area that has sasquatching it more than likely.

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That's how I try. I don't just go to random

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spots first, of course, I'll, i'll, you know, look up

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the areas where there's in reports. But I only go

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in certain areas that I see the telltale signs of sasquatch,

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which is their feelings there. They're wooden hieroglyphs. You know

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pretty much that they're used to talk to each other.

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They're not for us humans to know. We're not supposed

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to know, you know, exactly what's going on with it,

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So you know, that would be the first thing to

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show that if you see these specific things like is

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that a tree lane, the giant xes trees that are

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sticking in the ground up down, things that humans can't

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do without a major tractor or say a crane, And

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if you know you're like, okay, well somebody came in

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here with a tractor or a crane. They could have

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moved these things. Then like, you know, I would tell her, Okay,

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if that's the case, then where did it have to

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go through to get to that spot? And if those

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trees are knocked down for it to go through there,

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then probably wasn't one of those things. Anything that you

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see that's odd in the forest. You got to ask

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yourself first can a human do it? And if a

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human could possibly pull it off, then you got to

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ask yourself why, why would they do that? And how

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far are you into the mountains? Like would somebody go, Man,

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it would be so funny. I'm gonna make a wood

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structure and hopefully in the next like ten years, somebody

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accidentally walk on to it and it gets up big.

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But you know, it's like okay, like if you ever

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lifted wood, if you're out there or then they wood

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chopping a log that's long, it's longer than four feet

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and an inches thick. They get pretty heavy, you know.

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So when you're dealing with giant tepees forty ft fifty

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foot teepees and these logs, you go there and you

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got to look and see did this just fall over?

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Is it snowfall? You know? Is it a dying tree?

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Is it a disease tree? If the root did not

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come out of where it's at, it was brought there,

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And if it was brought there, could a human have

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done it? And if a human couldn't have done it,

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which animal in that force could have done it? I mean,

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you can't figure out all the noose species and that

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force that possibly, somehow strangely could pull it off, which

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usually isn't the case. Then you then you fall into

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it might have been a bigfoot. Does it fall into

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the normal quote unquote normal huge structure situations that are

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commonly found in bigfoot areas, Then you can say, hey,

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I think it's a bigfoot. And then from there that's

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when you go deeper into looking for tracks for you know,

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seats where they'll sit, you know, and eat, upping on

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us from the pine cones, and watching certain areas, stuff

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like that, little things like that to look out for

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and to always I would tell her not to throw

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out the baby with the backwater, because a lot of

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bigfoot researchers do this. They'll see smaller things, small structures

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or something, and they'll just automatically like, yeah, no, it's

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too that's two way too low. It was a deer.

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A deer broke that branch. A deer did this. It

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was a deer. You can't throw away what you're finding

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because they have children. And how do we teach our

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children to do what we want them to do. We

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show them and they copy us. So if I'm a

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big old sasquatch and I'm making a big old you

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know tepe or say like a wigwam a little shelter,

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or doing the grid patterns with the wood on the

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you know, making these weird, strange grids with the fallen trees,

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and then you're finding the little versions of them, more

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than likely it's either a juvenile or one of the

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little sasquatches. The little feet, the sasquatches, what they're tying,

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they're like the wars. Yeah, there's so much to I

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would have the future, but I'd have two full weeks

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to go through it all, and that would have been enough.

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Have you gotten to the point where you are you

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know exactly what bigfoot is or you've made the decision

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in your mind, Okay, this is what bigfoot is, this

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is what it's all about.

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Yeah, well, one, without a question, that's Real's what's real. Two,

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I believe it's a human. I don't think it's local

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fauna or just a big just a gorilla or azi.

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Not that they're stupid or anything, but it's just it's

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not just an animal. It's actually it's a human, and

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it's just a really hairy, large one that can now

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do everything we can do easily and survive, you know,

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way easier. But I really do believe that the Sasquatch

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were the first version of humans and at some point

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they got well, if you study you know, ancient history

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and the Sumerians and all the different Native American stories

453
00:26:31.160 --> 00:26:33.759
of the first ones that were here were mischievous, they

454
00:26:33.799 --> 00:26:36.119
were too big, they're too strong, they didn't want to listen.

455
00:26:36.440 --> 00:26:40.200
They were causing tons of problems, and call them gods,

456
00:26:40.240 --> 00:26:44.160
call them presidents, call them whoever was in charge got

457
00:26:44.240 --> 00:26:49.200
pissed off in pretty much kind of like banned them

458
00:26:49.559 --> 00:26:54.400
from interacting with us, and they were sent all to

459
00:26:54.440 --> 00:26:56.480
the depths of the forest around the world. They were toming,

460
00:26:56.480 --> 00:27:00.839
going amongst the men again. And we're getting now people

461
00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:03.920
are finding a bunch of big, giant, hairy dudes in

462
00:27:04.000 --> 00:27:07.039
these forests. But it's way more complicated than that. I

463
00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:09.599
think it's not just you know, really comminents that have

464
00:27:09.640 --> 00:27:13.359
survived from you know, way back when, because there's reports

465
00:27:13.400 --> 00:27:19.319
of them being with aliens or grays or retillions, whatever

466
00:27:19.319 --> 00:27:22.880
you want to call them. Demons all the same little

467
00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:24.400
word guys in the big heads and the big you

468
00:27:24.400 --> 00:27:27.240
know those big almond shaped eyes. Some are green, some

469
00:27:27.319 --> 00:27:29.839
are gray, some are white, some are dark brown, some

470
00:27:30.039 --> 00:27:34.640
but they've been seen with them. UFO reports are often

471
00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:40.200
followed a big foot siding or orbs glowing. Then you've

472
00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:42.079
got the people that say, you know, they can jump

473
00:27:42.119 --> 00:27:45.519
into different dimensions. I think that they're like humans in

474
00:27:45.519 --> 00:27:54.640
the sense that some are wild, inbred and just kind

475
00:27:54.640 --> 00:27:58.519
of like Neanderthal man, but way way more primitive primitive.

476
00:27:59.119 --> 00:28:01.279
And then I think there's some that are like us

477
00:28:01.559 --> 00:28:04.640
in the hippy sense, make love, not war. We love you,

478
00:28:05.160 --> 00:28:08.000
we care about humans, They try to protect us. There's

479
00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:09.880
the stories that where you find, you know, here little

480
00:28:09.960 --> 00:28:13.880
kids or somebody was saved by one. And then there's

481
00:28:13.920 --> 00:28:16.759
the ones that hate us with a passion, that'll eat

482
00:28:16.839 --> 00:28:20.599
us out of anger, not because they're hungry. And then,

483
00:28:20.759 --> 00:28:22.480
like I said, this goes on the ones that I'm

484
00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:27.680
guessing our military has that they're messing with. Like I said,

485
00:28:27.720 --> 00:28:30.640
there's so much to them that it's not I can't

486
00:28:31.359 --> 00:28:34.240
just stick them in one little section. But for sure

487
00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:39.200
they are real and some sort of human because you know,

488
00:28:39.240 --> 00:28:43.359
we worked on the DNA of Sasquatch with the other project,

489
00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:49.039
it's half human period. The other half we're not the

490
00:28:49.079 --> 00:28:53.119
military knows, but the mother the mate Hundri DNA was

491
00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:56.799
a human mother first one when they were first made,

492
00:28:57.000 --> 00:29:01.480
which goes to the story with the Samarians of when

493
00:29:01.599 --> 00:29:06.119
they created man and the first one was covering hair

494
00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:09.440
they made. It was artifics on the nation and they're

495
00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:17.960
combined with a human mother. And uh commented from where

496
00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:23.680
they were occupying, apparently in local commented, Yeah, for slave

497
00:29:23.839 --> 00:29:25.079
slavery minions.

498
00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:30.359
Some really fascinating stuff. And the thing I love about

499
00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:36.039
the topic is that there's literally something for everyone in

500
00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:38.359
the field of big foot. I think people that aren't

501
00:29:38.359 --> 00:29:40.640
in the field of big foot they're like, Oh, it's

502
00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:43.359
just it's just whatever. But when you start looking into it,

503
00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:45.519
you're like, oh, there's so many different ways I could

504
00:29:46.039 --> 00:29:48.960
look into this big for society. Who will be right

505
00:29:49.000 --> 00:30:08.880
back after these messages Now you kind of mentioned military

506
00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:14.039
stuff for a bit, and I'm curious what your your

507
00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:16.119
thoughts are on this. Do you think you know how

508
00:30:16.200 --> 00:30:19.400
right now we're kind of living through a UFO disclosure.

509
00:30:20.079 --> 00:30:22.640
It's starting, it's it's happening for the last few years,

510
00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:25.480
and now it's it's becoming more and more even as

511
00:30:25.480 --> 00:30:29.880
we're talking. Do you think maybe we will sometimes maybe

512
00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:36.200
we'll we'll live through that with with Bigfoot or Sasquatch, I.

513
00:30:36.160 --> 00:30:43.039
Would say not by then telling us if it does happen,

514
00:30:43.160 --> 00:30:48.039
it'll be because they can't control a situation with them.

515
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:51.720
The only way I would see it coming out because

516
00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:56.119
it's way too useful as an asset to the military

517
00:30:57.480 --> 00:30:59.799
versus you know, like the U of faulting, the ufoilting

518
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:04.759
can't really touch it's not in our backyard. It's very

519
00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:09.279
very elusive, you know, beyond you know, looking in the forest,

520
00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:12.319
and of course they have a lot of technology themselves.

521
00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:15.039
They're using UFO wise that they can get away and say,

522
00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:19.279
oh it's aliens, you know. But with the sasquatching, I

523
00:31:19.279 --> 00:31:22.839
think they're more interested in the whole DNA aspect of

524
00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:26.559
it and using it for some type of not cool things.

525
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:32.359
You know. Yeah, no, because you know you'll hear some

526
00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:38.119
say there's no evidence, the resvery pictures, right, but if

527
00:31:38.119 --> 00:31:39.599
you actually do the research and take the time to

528
00:31:39.599 --> 00:31:43.599
do the research, there is more than enough evidence times ten,

529
00:31:44.240 --> 00:31:47.400
you know, times twenty square to the root of you

530
00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:50.039
know what I mean. We got we got footprints with

531
00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:53.839
dermal ridges that are not human there. The dermal ridges

532
00:31:54.160 --> 00:31:56.920
run the same direction as the great apes, you know,

533
00:31:56.960 --> 00:32:01.319
like gorillas and champs. We got video, We've got pictures.

534
00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:04.839
We've got good pictures, and everybody complains about there's no

535
00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:08.000
clear pictures. Well, we got clear pictures and then said

536
00:32:08.119 --> 00:32:11.359
it's a fake because it can't be real. They're too good,

537
00:32:12.480 --> 00:32:14.359
you know what I mean. So, like a lot of

538
00:32:14.359 --> 00:32:16.200
people out there that you know, are gonna hear I'm

539
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:23.119
gonna say that that that word odd candy, don't don't.

540
00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:26.160
Yeah, it's cool.

541
00:32:28.279 --> 00:32:29.960
That, Like this is a lot of people.

542
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:32.599
I know, there's there's people all over the world there

543
00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:34.400
just going click on this right now. It's like it's

544
00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:34.960
it's fine.

545
00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:39.079
I want you all, y'all just listen now. I'll give

546
00:32:39.119 --> 00:32:42.240
you all some good reasons to keep on listening. All right.

547
00:32:42.440 --> 00:32:46.440
So I think there's two reasons. A lot of people

548
00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:49.319
don't like Todd sitting there. That's a huge problem in

549
00:32:49.359 --> 00:32:52.960
the Bigfoot world and every other cryptid and paranormal group

550
00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:57.319
out there. Oh, it's so there's so much drama, silly drama.

551
00:32:57.839 --> 00:33:02.680
Everybody judges everybody by their personality, not all their evidence,

552
00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:05.279
but by their personality, and if they like them on

553
00:33:05.400 --> 00:33:10.680
it outstanding. Okay, he's abrasive. I mean, know you respect

554
00:33:10.680 --> 00:33:14.000
you to talk. I know you're passionate and you're doing

555
00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:17.319
what you're doing. But a lot of people don't like

556
00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:20.519
how passionate he is. You know, when he was out

557
00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:25.079
hunting with Jeff Meldrum, you know Jeff, Doctor Jeff said,

558
00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:28.720
you know, he's a little he's just really a little

559
00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:32.759
overly passionate, you could say. And it is like, look,

560
00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:35.119
it's obviously big quid. Look at talks a bit quod,

561
00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:39.559
which because he's seeing it out there, it's obvious to him.

562
00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:44.359
But doctor Jeff, he isn't ready to just declare stuff,

563
00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:47.079
you know what I mean. He works out of university. Still,

564
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:50.400
he's got to worry about that stuff. But so I

565
00:33:50.440 --> 00:33:54.200
listened to everybody's complaints about Todd standing and their complaints.

566
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:56.519
The biggest one they said it's fake. And I asked him,

567
00:33:56.559 --> 00:33:59.599
why do you think it's fake? They'll tell me, oh,

568
00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:05.240
there's there's footage of of him faking it, Like, really

569
00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:09.960
show it to me. Okay, let's throw that out the water,

570
00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:12.239
saying nobody's been able to show me the footage that

571
00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:15.239
proves that he's fake. You know the other the next

572
00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:18.639
answer is, oh, his sister in law works in the

573
00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:21.760
movie industry as a makeup artist, so it was made

574
00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:23.920
by her. She made you know the mask they put

575
00:34:23.960 --> 00:34:28.639
on Todd, Right, And then it's it's outstanding himself or

576
00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:33.480
pretending to be a big foot and taking pictures of himself. Well, luckily,

577
00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:36.599
I'm a professional, and I've been in the movie industry

578
00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:41.840
for going on twenty years now, and I know special effects.

579
00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:44.880
I went to call the Mitology for makeup a long

580
00:34:44.920 --> 00:34:49.079
time ago. There's those are two different departments. The makeup

581
00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:53.760
lady she dust her forehead in your nose so it's

582
00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:57.440
not too shiny for the camera, show glue on, maybe

583
00:34:57.679 --> 00:35:01.039
a fake mustache, or go to year, put on awig

584
00:35:01.079 --> 00:35:06.320
on you. She's not a creature creator. She they don't

585
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:11.639
make animatronics, they don't make masks. You need special effects

586
00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:17.320
people to do that. It's not cheap whatsoever, okay to

587
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:22.599
do that. He does not scream wealthy to me. Just

588
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:26.119
that's just personal my own opinion to where he would

589
00:35:26.159 --> 00:35:29.119
be wasting the money to do that on what it

590
00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:33.039
would cost. Do you remember the movie of the Dark Crystal.

591
00:35:33.159 --> 00:35:35.239
Sure, yeah, classic Jim Henson movie.

592
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:39.760
Right exactly. So I'm friends with a guy that worked

593
00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:43.920
with Jim Henson on that movie, Michael McCormick. Okay, he

594
00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:48.559
is a puppeteer, you know, for Jim Henson and helps

595
00:35:48.840 --> 00:35:51.679
you know, build those type of things, and for that movie,

596
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:54.320
they need a little bit of everything. Something are animatronics,

597
00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:57.280
some things are people in suits, some things are puppets.

598
00:35:57.320 --> 00:35:59.679
You know that in that movie. So I asked too,

599
00:35:59.719 --> 00:36:01.599
I said, yeah, said Michael, do me a favor. I'm

600
00:36:01.599 --> 00:36:04.239
gonna send you some images on a video. I need

601
00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:08.840
to know something. Is it a mask, is it a

602
00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:13.599
puppet or is it animatronic or do you think it's

603
00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:18.559
an animal? That's all I want to know. And if

604
00:36:18.559 --> 00:36:22.800
you think it's animatronic or a puppet or a mask,

605
00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:30.119
what kind of budget would I mean to pull that off? Okay? Now,

606
00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:33.239
one of the images of the Sasquatch, it's next to

607
00:36:33.280 --> 00:36:38.119
a tree which has certain size of needles, you know,

608
00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:41.960
the leaves, and with their needles of a specific type

609
00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:46.119
of evergreen, you can literally figure out the size of

610
00:36:46.159 --> 00:36:51.480
the head of that whatever it is by measuring those

611
00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:56.519
needles next to its head, which it shows when you

612
00:36:56.559 --> 00:37:00.480
do that that it's a giant freaking head. It's you know,

613
00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:05.199
it was like I said, it's huge, and so Michael said,

614
00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:08.039
it's not a puppet for sure, it's not a mask.

615
00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:11.559
And if it's animatronic, which he doesn't think it was,

616
00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:17.280
for that size of a head with movable blinking eyes,

617
00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:21.639
and that's large, and you have to have a whole

618
00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:25.119
team to run it. If you've ever seen that type

619
00:37:25.119 --> 00:37:30.280
of stuff actually done in Hollywood, you literally have five

620
00:37:30.320 --> 00:37:34.719
to ten people all working different parts of that animal,

621
00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:38.119
fake animal, whatever you want to call it, animatronic contings

622
00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:40.920
to make it all work together to be believable for

623
00:37:40.960 --> 00:37:44.559
an audience. And you're looking at a million dollars to

624
00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:47.559
build something like that and have a whole team to

625
00:37:47.719 --> 00:37:52.719
do that. You know, So there's a bunch of stuff

626
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:55.880
points to me that no, it's it's not fake. Sure,

627
00:37:55.960 --> 00:37:58.039
he may be a brace if he may be you know,

628
00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:04.480
considered a jerk or whatever, but it's or sister in

629
00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:07.840
law whatever. Makeup people don't do that kind of stuff.

630
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:10.039
And if she was doing that kind of stuff, it

631
00:38:10.079 --> 00:38:12.679
would be an IMDb with all her credits as a

632
00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:17.400
special effects artist in creating creature cool stuff, you know

633
00:38:17.480 --> 00:38:22.119
what I mean, because that's animatronic and fake or puppets.

634
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:25.199
She needs an award. She needs to be working in

635
00:38:25.239 --> 00:38:27.719
Hollywood way more than she is, instead of putting on

636
00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:31.599
a lipstick and eyeshadow on people and dying gray hair

637
00:38:31.679 --> 00:38:33.880
is black, you know what I mean. That's the only

638
00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:37.760
reason why I think. And I also I measured the picture.

639
00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:40.719
There was a look you're thought standing under her mask.

640
00:38:41.000 --> 00:38:44.840
If you measure the eye of that sasquatch, the main

641
00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:47.960
one that he shows, you know, and you check the

642
00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:51.559
distance between the eyes. I went to our college. I

643
00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:53.880
went a commercial art college. I know anat I mean,

644
00:38:53.960 --> 00:38:58.199
I know the humans have one eye in between the eyes.

645
00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:00.679
We have the size of your left eye in the

646
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:02.440
same size as you're right. I unless you've got you know,

647
00:39:02.639 --> 00:39:06.320
you're born to you know, mouth warmed, it's one eye

648
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:09.960
in between. If you measure the one you know, the

649
00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:15.920
eye on that you know alleged sasquatch, it's three of

650
00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:20.079
its eyes in between the two eye, which is physically

651
00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:22.960
impossable for a human unless you've got like elephant man

652
00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:25.679
syndrome or something. You know what I mean. So I

653
00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:28.400
don't care if what people are jerks. There's a lot

654
00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:30.480
of people in the big Foo community that I can't stand.

655
00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:35.400
Me just want to be like smack them just so hard.

656
00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:41.760
But that does not have anything to do with real evidence,

657
00:39:41.840 --> 00:39:45.639
any type of evidence. And we are dying for real evidence,

658
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:48.880
and we're gonna throw it out. Some of the best

659
00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:54.000
visual photography ever of Sasquatch, well outside of you know,

660
00:39:54.320 --> 00:40:00.000
government sources. I would try a little harder to screw

661
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:01.960
iognize it a little bit better than just doing a

662
00:40:02.960 --> 00:40:08.840
gift image overlay and saying that his pistroom law made it.

663
00:40:09.079 --> 00:40:10.880
You know what I mean, that's all the evidence you got.

664
00:40:11.519 --> 00:40:16.239
Come on, guys, we're going backwards. We're going backwards when

665
00:40:16.239 --> 00:40:18.599
we should that should be like, you know, cares if

666
00:40:18.599 --> 00:40:21.920
he's a weirdo or whatever we want to call him whatever,

667
00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:25.159
you know. It's like it's like imagine people getting pissed

668
00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:28.679
off at doctor J. F. Meldrum because his beard. Well

669
00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:31.800
I don't like his task watch theories and his work

670
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:37.920
on feet because you got stupid better. It's like, come on, guys, really,

671
00:40:38.440 --> 00:40:40.400
you guys are killing me, dude. That's the thing.

672
00:40:40.440 --> 00:40:42.880
I like the mustache better. A little bit, you know,

673
00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:43.760
mustache made.

674
00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:50.679
I say, definitely, uh, Todd.

675
00:40:50.679 --> 00:40:53.719
This Todd standing discussion is such an interesting discussion. I

676
00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:57.159
will tell you this. I did interview a gentleman who

677
00:40:57.199 --> 00:41:02.199
had a wild encounter outside of Oakridge or again, and

678
00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:07.480
the way he was very hesitant to describe the face

679
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:10.480
of it, and he was like, I know I'm going

680
00:41:10.559 --> 00:41:13.480
to get I'm gonna get crud for this. But I

681
00:41:13.519 --> 00:41:16.719
will tell you that what Todd's standing captured in that

682
00:41:16.760 --> 00:41:19.000
photo is what I saw that day. And I know

683
00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:20.960
a lot of people after I say this will not

684
00:41:21.519 --> 00:41:25.239
pretty much not take my encounter seriously because there's just

685
00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:28.159
so many, so many people. Yeah, it's it's weird that

686
00:41:28.360 --> 00:41:31.519
it's such an interesting topic. But I've never talked to

687
00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:37.119
Todd personally, but it's such a weird how it's it's

688
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:39.920
such a polarizing conversation, right.

689
00:41:40.679 --> 00:41:45.400
Right, you've heard of doctor bend Nabel. Yeah, yeah, okay,

690
00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:47.480
A lot of people love that guy. A lot of

691
00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:51.480
people love his research. Right, So that's all open with

692
00:41:51.719 --> 00:41:53.920
I love to do this because it's so funny. I'll

693
00:41:53.960 --> 00:41:56.159
tell you that you heard a Dougler benber Nabel do oh,

694
00:41:56.199 --> 00:41:59.280
I love that old man rest is soul and you

695
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:05.519
know are at oh man, he was the reird deal right. Well,

696
00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:08.039
you know he went out with Todd Standing and if

697
00:42:08.079 --> 00:42:10.000
Todd showed him videos that he had to fill anybody

698
00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:17.559
else of says assquatches and doctor Benderangel said it's real,

699
00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:23.599
but he has it's not fake in his own professional opinion,

700
00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:30.320
Outstanding is not making it up. So are you saying

701
00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:36.320
that you think doctor Bender dangles are fake too? Or

702
00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:38.079
is he just a whole stupid old man that you

703
00:42:38.119 --> 00:42:41.719
guys don't trust, or are you gonna trust the thirty

704
00:42:41.719 --> 00:42:46.639
plus years of his work knowing this creature and deciding

705
00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:50.079
for himself while he was up there actually with Todd

706
00:42:50.679 --> 00:42:52.519
going to the areas and seeing all the footage that

707
00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:54.559
he had, is he's scared to show more people because

708
00:42:54.599 --> 00:42:57.159
everybody's all, yeah, it's fake, you know what I mean?

709
00:42:58.679 --> 00:42:59.800
Right a lot.

710
00:43:00.159 --> 00:43:05.199
Yeah, it's a very interesting conversation, especially tough when some

711
00:43:05.280 --> 00:43:07.760
of the parties involved are no longer with us, so

712
00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:09.840
you can't ask them.

713
00:43:09.960 --> 00:43:14.000
You know, Well he's going video saying it. That's the thing, right,

714
00:43:14.599 --> 00:43:17.840
you're literally on here, Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.

715
00:43:17.880 --> 00:43:22.960
So it's like, right, like my issue is I don't

716
00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:27.079
care what other people think. A lot of people have

717
00:43:27.119 --> 00:43:29.119
gone out with me hunting, or they've invited me to

718
00:43:29.159 --> 00:43:35.039
go with them, and for whatever reason, I'm a weird magnet, okay.

719
00:43:35.719 --> 00:43:39.719
And I get interaction a lot, especially at nighttime with

720
00:43:39.960 --> 00:43:42.360
all these people that I've gone with and people that

721
00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:46.519
they don't like me, and they get mad because they've

722
00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:48.199
had nothing going on, and I go with them, and

723
00:43:48.199 --> 00:43:49.920
then all of a sudden there's action whatever you want

724
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:54.000
to call it. So a lot of people they can't

725
00:43:54.360 --> 00:43:57.119
they can't say, oh, you're making new dope because that

726
00:43:57.280 --> 00:44:01.840
happened when I was with him. I've got pictures of

727
00:44:01.920 --> 00:44:03.440
freaking bigfoots looking at my tent.

728
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:06.599
I've seen the two of them, Yeah.

729
00:44:06.039 --> 00:44:10.400
Yeah, and a friend, the funny looking green guy, you know.

730
00:44:11.079 --> 00:44:14.840
And I've got more, but does nobody has? Not too

731
00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:17.639
many people I've really seen more recent because that the

732
00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:21.400
original the tent thing was in twenty seventeen, but this

733
00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:24.280
was it last year. Yeah. I got my new phone.

734
00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:29.199
It's you know, the Android Ultra thirteen twenty four or whatever,

735
00:44:29.239 --> 00:44:32.519
super Zoom night pain shot phone. That's way too much.

736
00:44:32.519 --> 00:44:35.760
I'm still ain't on it type of phone. And I

737
00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:38.079
was I took my parents out camrapy me hadn't been

738
00:44:38.119 --> 00:44:40.800
camping together in years, and we went to an area

739
00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:43.119
where there was reports, you know, the campers saying that

740
00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:46.199
somebody was throwing rocks in their tanner, you know, the usual,

741
00:44:46.519 --> 00:44:49.679
you know, silliness and the big foots like new But

742
00:44:49.719 --> 00:44:52.000
I was like, I'm not hunting, I swear, let's just

743
00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:58.519
have enjoyed ourselves. And yeah, eventually started hearing a weird

744
00:44:58.519 --> 00:45:01.480
crap and I was like, well, now we'll good time

745
00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:04.199
to try out this night night shot that it has

746
00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:06.559
but doesn't night vision or anything like that. It's just

747
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:10.239
it's a five seconds delay, and I get it takes

748
00:45:10.239 --> 00:45:12.880
in all the light possible. If there's absolutely no light,

749
00:45:12.960 --> 00:45:16.559
it don't work. At least some kind of light source,

750
00:45:17.559 --> 00:45:22.559
even in a small, small fire in the count does amazing.

751
00:45:23.480 --> 00:45:28.440
And I brightened them up and sure enough I have

752
00:45:29.159 --> 00:45:33.920
it looks like a juvenile sasquattion from a branch. You know,

753
00:45:33.960 --> 00:45:36.320
do you remember those those red little monkeys in a

754
00:45:36.360 --> 00:45:40.280
barrow that you hang with each other. Yeah, doesn't that

755
00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:43.800
closes exactly? Okay, hanging down off the branch. And then

756
00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:48.000
but this is the wildest night because I experienced a

757
00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:49.960
whole bunch of different stuff, not a biquit stuff.

758
00:45:50.559 --> 00:45:53.360
Big for a society will be right back after these messages.

759
00:46:09.320 --> 00:46:12.960
Okay for years and years, And this was the first

760
00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:15.800
time though that I ever got in a picture. What

761
00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:19.480
I believe is the werewolf, wolfman, dog man, whatever they

762
00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:24.000
want to call him. They're going the same night a

763
00:46:24.039 --> 00:46:31.599
wolf person, dude, just mean a big foot with his

764
00:46:31.679 --> 00:46:35.079
eyes blowing, and on the right side of bigfoot a

765
00:46:35.199 --> 00:46:41.519
gray So, like, what's going on? You know what I mean?

766
00:46:42.199 --> 00:46:45.400
How can I categorize that? You know, It's like I

767
00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:48.760
already had in twenty seventeen showing two sasquatch with green

768
00:46:49.480 --> 00:46:51.559
gray whatever you want to call him, a rectilian, red eyes,

769
00:46:51.599 --> 00:46:56.000
green skiing. I don't know. I don't know. And I've

770
00:46:56.039 --> 00:46:59.679
been blessing because of my movie career in being a

771
00:46:59.679 --> 00:47:03.840
semi I celebrity, a lot of different researchers. They want

772
00:47:03.840 --> 00:47:05.239
to meet me, they want to talk to them, they

773
00:47:05.239 --> 00:47:06.519
want to invite me out, you know, when they were

774
00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:09.239
hunting and stuff, and they opened a bunch of doors

775
00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:12.039
to being involved with from serious you know, you know,

776
00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:16.760
cool floods of researchers. And we're working with j Goodall

777
00:47:16.840 --> 00:47:19.559
and you know, on the Falcon project before the Tell

778
00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:25.239
Apart you know project, you know, yeah, you know, I

779
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:31.159
work with Jeff Meldrum, working in other anthropologists, how do anthropologies,

780
00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:34.800
you know, heads of different universities coming to me asking

781
00:47:34.840 --> 00:47:39.199
me questions about it and say, that's wild, that's pretty

782
00:47:39.239 --> 00:47:42.280
wild stuff, you know. And I've seen him myself. I

783
00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:46.000
know it's real. I videotaped different not great footage, you know,

784
00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:49.079
nothing amazing, But it was this asquatch. I was the

785
00:47:49.320 --> 00:47:51.760
one that saw it. We're driving home, you know, on

786
00:47:51.800 --> 00:47:54.880
the reservation about reservation. The couple that I was giving

787
00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:57.519
to ride to Walmart to get some food. The wife

788
00:47:57.559 --> 00:48:00.360
she's we're talking, we're talking about bigfoot, and she's like, hey,

789
00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:02.519
look there's one right there. And I was like what.

790
00:48:03.519 --> 00:48:05.880
We turned to the right and sure enough there's a

791
00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:09.920
big but just walking down the irrigation show. We were

792
00:48:10.079 --> 00:48:13.559
jumped out and filmed it, you know. But yeah, there's

793
00:48:13.760 --> 00:48:18.119
too much evidence that I've gotten and I'm Albert. Anybody

794
00:48:18.159 --> 00:48:21.360
scrutinizing my stuff, I don't mind telling the truth. I

795
00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:24.039
don't care at all. I ain't worried and scared about nothing.

796
00:48:24.159 --> 00:48:27.360
Already a public figure, people ask me I'm worried about

797
00:48:27.360 --> 00:48:29.800
it destroying my career, and I'm like, what, what are

798
00:48:29.800 --> 00:48:32.360
they going to destroy it? But they're not gonna want

799
00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:35.639
me to play a drug dealer. They won't let me

800
00:48:35.719 --> 00:48:39.280
play a murder carrying bodies in the desert. Oh no,

801
00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:44.440
not the scary guy. Come on whatever, man. The one

802
00:48:44.480 --> 00:48:46.960
reason I'd gott into Hollywood is because I had to

803
00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:50.320
pay bills. I found out I had a daughter, and

804
00:48:50.599 --> 00:48:51.920
I was like, I need to do something that's gonna

805
00:48:51.920 --> 00:48:53.360
make you money. I don't have the money to go

806
00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:56.480
to twelve years of school for a lawyer or doctor.

807
00:48:57.119 --> 00:48:58.599
You know, I need. I need to get into a

808
00:48:58.599 --> 00:49:00.199
bo Look, I know I can make a good a

809
00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:02.199
good amount of money to take care of my parents

810
00:49:02.400 --> 00:49:07.679
and the kids. And yeah, that's how I got in

811
00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:11.800
that because I knew I was so stereotyped by society,

812
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:14.360
because I'm a big, giant Mexican, you know what I mean. Ball,

813
00:49:14.360 --> 00:49:18.039
I haded, got tattoos, I teared drives a whole you know, gambit,

814
00:49:18.679 --> 00:49:20.800
And yeah, I've been screwed with. I faced tons of

815
00:49:20.880 --> 00:49:23.840
years in prison on false charges, never been convicted of

816
00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:27.679
the family once, but I faced on many years. I'm

817
00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:31.400
stupid crap because I matched such a screw shit, you know.

818
00:49:32.079 --> 00:49:34.079
And so I was like, well, man, Hollywood, shold need

819
00:49:34.119 --> 00:49:36.400
it up. They only got normal sized Mexicans, you know

820
00:49:36.440 --> 00:49:38.519
what I mean. I'm a giant one in the realm

821
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:41.719
of normal sized Mexicans. You know, six for three is huge.

822
00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:44.119
But yeah, so that's how you know. I wasn't my

823
00:49:44.199 --> 00:49:46.079
dream to be an actor. I wasn't like, you know,

824
00:49:46.559 --> 00:49:49.760
taking acting classes. Oh I wish, No, I was. I was.

825
00:49:49.800 --> 00:49:53.320
I went to my first call as an extra on

826
00:49:53.400 --> 00:49:57.400
a Steven Sagam movie and I was the only giant

827
00:49:57.440 --> 00:49:58.920
Mexican when he was supposed to be in the East

828
00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:01.239
La beating up his mess Can gang. But they were

829
00:50:01.320 --> 00:50:03.280
normal size, so look like kids beating up little kids.

830
00:50:03.280 --> 00:50:05.719
He's six foot five, you know. And I was already

831
00:50:05.719 --> 00:50:09.559
a bodyguard, professional fighter, law enforcement and all that stuff.

832
00:50:09.559 --> 00:50:12.880
And I was like, yeah, dude, I'm down to fight him,

833
00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:15.360
you know. And they're like, okay, come on, come meet him.

834
00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:18.519
And we met. He tried me out, you know, for

835
00:50:18.639 --> 00:50:23.119
my actuting skills, you know, just some improv and he

836
00:50:23.239 --> 00:50:25.480
liked it. It was good enough for his movie, and

837
00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:26.960
he said, I want you to meet me at my

838
00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:30.519
Hotel tonight so we can fight. They wouldn't just see

839
00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:34.039
what I could do. So I was like, hell, yeah,

840
00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:36.480
I don't care anybody says about sumusical things. Oh he's

841
00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:40.000
a fake co marcial artists. No, he's a six foot

842
00:50:40.039 --> 00:50:43.880
five giant that is very strong. Don't care how chubby

843
00:50:43.920 --> 00:50:48.800
he is or not. But he is the only Caucasian

844
00:50:48.840 --> 00:50:52.440
man ever given a permission by the Accusa in Japan

845
00:50:53.519 --> 00:51:01.840
to Ticha Chito as a master martial arts. Can't do that,

846
00:51:02.559 --> 00:51:04.840
you know what I mean. Well, yeah, so that's how

847
00:51:04.840 --> 00:51:06.719
I got into Hollywood. Like that. I became just a

848
00:51:06.760 --> 00:51:10.440
bad guy to fight and get shot and carry people.

849
00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:13.039
But yeah, so I don't I'm not concerned about that

850
00:51:13.079 --> 00:51:15.280
because this is all the big Foot stuff, the UFO stuff,

851
00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:19.079
the ghost stuff, all the weird stuff that I experience

852
00:51:19.280 --> 00:51:23.599
and you know, share with everybody that was happening before any.

853
00:51:23.480 --> 00:51:28.159
Job I had exactly. It's, you know, such an interesting

854
00:51:28.519 --> 00:51:31.079
path that you've gone down. It's really cool. There's a

855
00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:33.559
few things I want to circle back around real quick

856
00:51:34.119 --> 00:51:38.840
to make sure that they don't disappear. So that picture

857
00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:40.679
that you took just last year where it is like

858
00:51:40.719 --> 00:51:44.320
the Bigfoot, the alien and the dog man type creature.

859
00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:47.960
Is that it sounds like that's just that's not a

860
00:51:47.960 --> 00:51:48.800
public thing at all.

861
00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:51.679
Not Unfortunately, I haven't cut up the video yet. Are

862
00:51:51.679 --> 00:51:53.320
you able to receive a picture you're we're on the

863
00:51:53.320 --> 00:51:53.679
phone or.

864
00:51:55.639 --> 00:51:58.199
I mean you can my email. I have an email

865
00:51:58.239 --> 00:52:01.159
you could send it to, yeah for society at gmail

866
00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:02.920
dot com.

867
00:52:03.119 --> 00:52:06.079
So okay, okay, yeah, I'll send you those pictures and

868
00:52:06.159 --> 00:52:09.400
you can trip out of them. You know. That's again.

869
00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:12.280
I'll show everybody because I do enhance images. I do.

870
00:52:12.519 --> 00:52:14.559
I'll tell them, but I will let every you know

871
00:52:14.679 --> 00:52:17.920
exactly what free app I'm using on my phone, the

872
00:52:18.039 --> 00:52:22.280
process in the original picture. I am happy to show

873
00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:24.280
them all that. So I and all my videos on

874
00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:27.199
my channel, on my YouTube channel, I do that because

875
00:52:27.719 --> 00:52:29.960
I don't want people doing here look at it. It's

876
00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:32.840
obviously been missed with it. It's like, yes, yes, it

877
00:52:32.880 --> 00:52:36.559
has been brightened, it has been sharpened. I have at

878
00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:40.119
a slight contrast. I have, you know, just to the ambience,

879
00:52:40.519 --> 00:52:44.320
so you guys can see better. I know it's there,

880
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:48.719
but not everybody you can see what I'm seeing right now,

881
00:52:48.719 --> 00:52:51.000
so I need to bring it out a little bit better.

882
00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:53.679
So you can see because like, like I'll send you

883
00:52:53.719 --> 00:52:56.800
some of the like the original shots before brightening and

884
00:52:56.840 --> 00:53:00.239
stuff like the two bigfoots in my hand look in

885
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:03.880
the tent. Some people haven't seen. I don't just have

886
00:53:04.159 --> 00:53:06.119
those couple of pictures of them looking in the tent.

887
00:53:07.039 --> 00:53:09.920
I've got to where they were freaking out. The guy

888
00:53:09.960 --> 00:53:11.519
that I was with, he was about to, you know,

889
00:53:11.559 --> 00:53:14.480
like on the verge of the official panic attack. I

890
00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:18.920
shine the flashlight in their face and you can see

891
00:53:19.599 --> 00:53:24.760
one of the sasquats grimace in there. That's right, you

892
00:53:24.840 --> 00:53:27.000
know what I mean. If it was a mask, how

893
00:53:27.039 --> 00:53:30.480
the hell did it do that? How can you grim?

894
00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:32.559
You know what I mean? And then like you've heard

895
00:53:32.599 --> 00:53:36.679
a thinker thunker. He's great, Okay, it's a good friend

896
00:53:36.719 --> 00:53:44.880
of mine. Yeah, And I think he's gotten too concerned

897
00:53:44.920 --> 00:53:48.719
with people what they say, and he's always trying to

898
00:53:48.840 --> 00:53:52.960
prove to them, and he's having like the legs videos,

899
00:53:53.159 --> 00:53:57.000
they're like more about that than just the research anymore.

900
00:53:58.079 --> 00:54:01.039
I hope he works that out and stops keeping the

901
00:54:01.039 --> 00:54:04.159
crap up. People say, just that's what he does, because

902
00:54:04.159 --> 00:54:06.880
I love I love what he does, you know. But

903
00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:11.480
he came out with a way to measure the faces

904
00:54:11.880 --> 00:54:15.199
of sasquatch and their arms and legsies mainly you know,

905
00:54:15.440 --> 00:54:18.760
started with But yeah, when you measure the face of

906
00:54:19.199 --> 00:54:24.280
the majority of actual possible Sasquatch images, they're they're not

907
00:54:24.599 --> 00:54:30.440
human proportions, you know, for normally, unless of course, there's

908
00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:33.159
you know, they're born with, you know, mouth formed. Like

909
00:54:33.239 --> 00:54:35.519
if you get your finger right now, you put it

910
00:54:35.599 --> 00:54:38.679
under your nose, the top of it should touch your nose,

911
00:54:38.719 --> 00:54:41.440
in the bottom of your finger should touch your upper lip,

912
00:54:42.280 --> 00:54:46.960
or at least quotes sasquatch, not all of them, but

913
00:54:47.000 --> 00:54:50.639
I'll say the majority from what we're seeing, you put

914
00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:54.119
you hit two fingers, not one, but two. Naturally their

915
00:54:54.159 --> 00:54:58.920
mouth begins under that part. When he came out with that,

916
00:54:59.320 --> 00:55:02.400
it was after for my incident in twenty seventeen with

917
00:55:02.400 --> 00:55:06.320
those images. I used his in anything he does for

918
00:55:06.400 --> 00:55:10.840
the face measurements, be fit be fit. Wow, How would

919
00:55:10.880 --> 00:55:13.239
I know in advance that he was going to invent

920
00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:17.079
that thing by scrutinizing all these different images and videos?

921
00:55:17.280 --> 00:55:19.519
How would I know that three years earlier?

922
00:55:20.639 --> 00:55:23.119
Yeah, you know what I mean exactly. I can't wait

923
00:55:23.159 --> 00:55:25.639
too to see those What was it that you did

924
00:55:25.679 --> 00:55:27.000
with Jane Goodall.

925
00:55:28.480 --> 00:55:31.880
Well she was on the Falcon Project. Oh right, yeah,

926
00:55:32.159 --> 00:55:34.760
and she and she was going to be part of

927
00:55:34.760 --> 00:55:35.920
the Geno project too.

928
00:55:36.519 --> 00:55:39.559
Can you explain real quick with the A lot of

929
00:55:39.559 --> 00:55:41.519
people are not going to know what the Falcon Project is,

930
00:55:41.719 --> 00:55:42.079
I think.

931
00:55:42.639 --> 00:55:47.079
Okay, So, once upon a time, a long long time ago, right,

932
00:55:48.480 --> 00:55:52.280
there was a guy named William Barnes. He was always

933
00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:54.480
cool to me. I'm sorry everything went crappy with it,

934
00:55:54.519 --> 00:55:57.360
you know, with the situation, because she meant well he

935
00:55:57.519 --> 00:56:00.440
got dealt to hard hand. But the Falcon Project was

936
00:56:00.960 --> 00:56:05.079
a they're going to send up an airship drone, but

937
00:56:05.199 --> 00:56:07.440
not the typical journal just you know, the propellers. But

938
00:56:07.480 --> 00:56:09.880
it was going to look like actual blank panda, and

939
00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:12.159
they're going to send it up up way high, and

940
00:56:12.199 --> 00:56:16.119
it'd have all the different abilities of you know, lighter

941
00:56:16.440 --> 00:56:19.079
and I don't know about lighter, but you know, night vision,

942
00:56:19.519 --> 00:56:22.840
sheet sensing, you know, all that fun stuff. And they're

943
00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:26.440
going to have send it over areas so bigical we

944
00:56:26.480 --> 00:56:29.440
wouldn't know that they were passing by watching what's down there.

945
00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:35.199
And they had multiple individuals that were going to be

946
00:56:35.360 --> 00:56:38.159
on the ground. I was one of those individuals that

947
00:56:38.320 --> 00:56:42.800
was going to be there for six months in the forest. Yeah,

948
00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:45.920
living there and doing all the research with you know,

949
00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:49.559
several other people that have been chosen. And then you

950
00:56:49.679 --> 00:56:53.320
had the anthropologists that we're going to be. You know,

951
00:56:53.360 --> 00:56:56.119
we'd report to all our information and what we're getting,

952
00:56:56.159 --> 00:56:59.400
you know, the evidences of But unfortunately it holds all

953
00:56:59.440 --> 00:57:05.719
the funding and people showed up to the locations and

954
00:57:05.920 --> 00:57:08.480
there was no one there because nobody had told them

955
00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:12.039
that that had happened, unfortunately. And luckily somebody reached out

956
00:57:12.079 --> 00:57:15.079
to me before I headed out and said, hey, dude,

957
00:57:15.079 --> 00:57:19.199
don't come, it's not happening. It pulled the plug, you know.

958
00:57:19.960 --> 00:57:22.280
But it was a really huge thing that was going on.

959
00:57:22.360 --> 00:57:24.960
It was there was lots of excitement for it. I

960
00:57:25.000 --> 00:57:27.800
was excited for it. I was looking forward to just

961
00:57:27.960 --> 00:57:31.239
being stuck in the forest for six months just you know,

962
00:57:31.599 --> 00:57:34.719
I love that kind of stuff, you know. But yeah,

963
00:57:34.840 --> 00:57:39.440
so it fell apart, and then later came the genome project.

964
00:57:39.599 --> 00:57:43.719
There was one hundred she study. We're working with Oxford

965
00:57:43.800 --> 00:57:48.239
University on the DNA the sasquatch, and there was one

966
00:57:48.320 --> 00:57:53.039
hundred samples given. And then everybody started attacking up the

967
00:57:53.119 --> 00:58:00.480
kitchen because she's started telling other stuff beyond her work

968
00:58:00.840 --> 00:58:04.360
as a DNA expert, and people once the game are

969
00:58:04.599 --> 00:58:10.360
judging people on their personality or they don't like them,

970
00:58:10.400 --> 00:58:13.719
not on their actual physical evidence or you know, visual

971
00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:14.960
evidence that they put forth.

972
00:58:16.559 --> 00:58:19.519
There is a lot of jealousy in the field as well.

973
00:58:21.159 --> 00:58:24.039
Oh yeah that I've seen that in the last five

974
00:58:24.119 --> 00:58:30.079
years destroy relationships that should have lasted for decades. Yeah,

975
00:58:30.320 --> 00:58:33.199
that's that's all I'll say about that. But it's it's

976
00:58:33.320 --> 00:58:36.199
it can be. Yeah, just guys, don't don't get.

977
00:58:36.360 --> 00:58:39.599
In every every It's in everything. It is in film,

978
00:58:40.519 --> 00:58:43.880
regular jobs. You know, changes in that where you are.

979
00:58:44.199 --> 00:58:48.039
Humans are just oh they can be so stupid sometimes,

980
00:58:48.679 --> 00:58:51.599
you know what I mean. It just it's it's the

981
00:58:51.639 --> 00:58:54.239
same everywhere. It doesn't matter because I'm involved with so

982
00:58:54.280 --> 00:58:57.440
many different types of the paranormal and I've been, you know,

983
00:58:57.519 --> 00:59:00.920
an expert for the UFO TV shows. I dealt with

984
00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:05.440
you know, ichnology, ghost I'm a pastor. I've done Clinton

985
00:59:05.639 --> 00:59:08.880
and Houses. I deal with my own issues with ghost systems.

986
00:59:08.920 --> 00:59:12.480
I have seen UFOs, I've seen the little gray guys.

987
00:59:12.960 --> 00:59:16.719
I've seen so much. It's just the bigfoot thing is

988
00:59:16.800 --> 00:59:21.400
what people find most interesting. I guess that I get

989
00:59:21.400 --> 00:59:25.360
requested to talk about most sure, you know, And yeah,

990
00:59:25.400 --> 00:59:29.159
that's why I don't care. It's like, y'all can hate

991
00:59:29.199 --> 00:59:31.760
me all you want. This is my normal life. I

992
00:59:31.800 --> 00:59:34.519
can't turn it off. I'm just sharing with you guys

993
00:59:34.559 --> 00:59:37.800
what what I'm experiencing with and what I believe is

994
00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:42.760
going on. I am not here to prove anything to anybody.

995
00:59:43.280 --> 00:59:47.639
I'm just here to share what I'm finding out and experiencing.

996
00:59:48.559 --> 00:59:52.840
Have you done any research or any expeditions outside of

997
00:59:52.840 --> 00:59:53.559
the Southwest.

998
00:59:54.119 --> 01:00:03.880
I've done Texas, Arizona and New Mexico, California, Washington, Oregon, Oklahoma.

999
01:00:05.360 --> 01:00:09.920
I've got plans already set up for Florida and upstate

1000
01:00:09.960 --> 01:00:13.480
New York. My research and I study. I study every

1001
01:00:13.519 --> 01:00:18.679
continent in the United States of all possible sasquatch related information.

1002
01:00:19.440 --> 01:00:22.199
Big for society will be right back after these messages.

1003
01:00:38.280 --> 01:00:41.920
Mm hmmmm. Where did you go to in Oklahoma?

1004
01:00:42.599 --> 01:00:46.920
The commentary reservation out there?

1005
01:00:47.400 --> 01:00:50.280
Okay?

1006
01:00:50.480 --> 01:00:59.119
Yeah, what's it called the the Anobia or Anobi or Noba.

1007
01:00:59.639 --> 01:01:04.320
You went, yeah, yeah, yeah, so that that kind of

1008
01:01:04.320 --> 01:01:07.199
that area, you know what I mean? And yeah, the

1009
01:01:07.239 --> 01:01:10.440
big foots out there are mean, that's it's a trip man, because,

1010
01:01:10.480 --> 01:01:13.119
like I said, there's so many different kinds you know

1011
01:01:13.159 --> 01:01:15.800
that are out there. You heard the three of the

1012
01:01:15.920 --> 01:01:19.840
two be Brothers. You know that whole Sasquads massacre war

1013
01:01:20.639 --> 01:01:24.320
between something natives in the cavalry in the big foods.

1014
01:01:24.960 --> 01:01:29.039
That's some wild still. You know, the whole Nabi incident.

1015
01:01:29.079 --> 01:01:32.559
That's a wild still. But like over here, you never

1016
01:01:32.599 --> 01:01:35.719
hear the violent stuff. There's people that have gone missing,

1017
01:01:35.800 --> 01:01:38.920
I'm sure, but you never hear in this area of

1018
01:01:39.239 --> 01:01:45.079
violent attacks or cannibalism. In Florida, it seems like they

1019
01:01:45.119 --> 01:01:51.639
have more of the more animalistic ape activity versus the

1020
01:01:52.920 --> 01:01:55.679
much smaller too. But there is giant ones out there,

1021
01:01:55.719 --> 01:01:58.239
but the ones that were mostly reported are you know,

1022
01:01:58.360 --> 01:02:01.840
sixty seventeet at most. You know, we here the biggest one.

1023
01:02:01.880 --> 01:02:06.000
We worked with jac Johnson. Again, I got pictures of that.

1024
01:02:08.440 --> 01:02:11.119
It's like, at least I know this song is ridiculous,

1025
01:02:11.159 --> 01:02:14.679
but the picture of the Sasquatch that I'm talking about

1026
01:02:14.920 --> 01:02:18.239
is between twenty and twenty five feet tall.

1027
01:02:18.440 --> 01:02:21.679
Wow, I mean I've heard of them that that big

1028
01:02:21.760 --> 01:02:25.559
as a gentleman two gentlemen up in Oregon. Well, I

1029
01:02:25.639 --> 01:02:27.920
don't know that was track size. I'm sorry twenty three

1030
01:02:27.960 --> 01:02:29.000
in track size.

1031
01:02:29.119 --> 01:02:34.960
That what you said. Yeah, Like Alaska, Canada up there,

1032
01:02:35.079 --> 01:02:38.159
that's where you hear about the big ones, but here

1033
01:02:38.199 --> 01:02:40.519
in New Mexico that's unheard of. The only reason why

1034
01:02:40.559 --> 01:02:42.880
I say it's that big is because the picture that

1035
01:02:42.920 --> 01:02:46.480
we have of the Saasquatch, it's sitting on its butt. Okay,

1036
01:02:46.519 --> 01:02:49.119
it's sitting on the ground and its legs you're kind

1037
01:02:49.119 --> 01:02:53.559
of cross sort of, and it's sitting in the area

1038
01:02:53.639 --> 01:02:57.360
where these they're called the juniper trees. You know, they're

1039
01:02:57.400 --> 01:03:02.039
the evergreen type juniper trees. The tallest ones grow to

1040
01:03:02.079 --> 01:03:06.480
about twelve feet. The average is between ten and eleven

1041
01:03:06.519 --> 01:03:09.400
feet of these trees. Because it's like if you ever

1042
01:03:09.440 --> 01:03:13.280
approach a mountain or a forest between the flatlands and

1043
01:03:13.519 --> 01:03:18.679
the main forest, you usually have halfway sized trees not

1044
01:03:18.800 --> 01:03:20.800
to get to the actual fort to get the big boys, right,

1045
01:03:21.440 --> 01:03:24.840
So that's the same situation here. So these trees that

1046
01:03:24.880 --> 01:03:31.159
it's sitting next to, okay, fully glown trees. I'm up

1047
01:03:31.239 --> 01:03:35.000
to its chest, the lower part of its chest, and

1048
01:03:35.039 --> 01:03:39.079
it's sitting down. I know that these are the trees

1049
01:03:39.280 --> 01:03:41.599
in the side of the tree because my mom was

1050
01:03:41.679 --> 01:03:43.719
to the forest apartment, and I went there and showed

1051
01:03:43.760 --> 01:03:45.960
them the picture. I was like, don't worry about whatever

1052
01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:49.199
that is, but what kind of trees are those? They're

1053
01:03:50.119 --> 01:03:54.159
where is it at? I was like Madrid area. You're like, well,

1054
01:03:54.199 --> 01:03:56.239
those are gulber trees. You're like, well, how big do

1055
01:03:56.320 --> 01:03:58.760
they grow? They're like, what is that? I don't worry

1056
01:03:58.800 --> 01:04:01.559
about that. I'm just worrying asking the trees. You know.

1057
01:04:01.599 --> 01:04:06.480
It's funny. Yeah, when you're in Oklahoma, in Honab, did

1058
01:04:06.480 --> 01:04:08.679
you have any interesting things happen out there?

1059
01:04:11.360 --> 01:04:20.400
Honestly I didn't. Just stories people saying, you know, okay, yeah,

1060
01:04:20.440 --> 01:04:22.960
so I had I needed more time there, That's the thing.

1061
01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:25.079
I was only there for you know, a weeks maybe

1062
01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:28.000
and to get you know, I didn't. I was doing

1063
01:04:28.039 --> 01:04:30.239
more because you know, you sort of a bottle the

1064
01:04:30.280 --> 01:04:34.119
reservations and you know, doing ow wow and spending time

1065
01:04:34.159 --> 01:04:37.159
with family and stuff. So I was there. I wasn't

1066
01:04:37.159 --> 01:04:39.440
there for Bigfoot. I was there to spend time with

1067
01:04:39.519 --> 01:04:43.199
the command ches and I join and singing with them.

1068
01:04:43.800 --> 01:04:46.000
So yeah, just it's like I said, it's just part

1069
01:04:46.039 --> 01:04:51.119
of my life. Honestly. Now it's so strange. I want

1070
01:04:51.159 --> 01:04:54.679
to there's this Bigfoot quote unquote museum up here where

1071
01:04:54.679 --> 01:04:59.039
I live that opened up, and they did it for money.

1072
01:04:59.360 --> 01:05:03.000
They didn't you know the big Foot there, you know

1073
01:05:03.039 --> 01:05:05.039
what I mean. So they're already putting it for sell

1074
01:05:05.039 --> 01:05:06.519
and I'm hoping to be able to buy it and

1075
01:05:07.039 --> 01:05:11.280
do it right, you know, really cool. Yeah, it'd be fun.

1076
01:05:12.119 --> 01:05:15.480
And the connections you have, you'd be able to really

1077
01:05:15.480 --> 01:05:16.360
set that up good.

1078
01:05:16.679 --> 01:05:20.440
I mean, I tell so cool.

1079
01:05:20.519 --> 01:05:25.000
Cool Jesus, This has been a really fun chat. Thank

1080
01:05:25.039 --> 01:05:27.679
you so much for coming on the show. As we

1081
01:05:27.760 --> 01:05:31.039
start to wind down, this is you know, a few

1082
01:05:31.360 --> 01:05:34.840
few ending questions. Did you have any final thoughts or

1083
01:05:35.400 --> 01:05:37.840
or how people can keep up to date with with

1084
01:05:37.920 --> 01:05:39.840
all these different things you've got going on.

1085
01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:44.000
If you go on YouTube and you type in the

1086
01:05:44.039 --> 01:05:47.920
search section, you can type in Breaking Discoveries. That's the

1087
01:05:48.000 --> 01:05:53.119
name of my channel, and Breaking Bigfoot is the series

1088
01:05:53.239 --> 01:05:56.119
on my channel because I do other things too, but

1089
01:05:56.159 --> 01:05:58.440
the majority of stuff is big for related, but that's

1090
01:05:58.440 --> 01:06:01.039
Breaking Bigfoot. So you can pipe in your one Breaking

1091
01:06:01.079 --> 01:06:04.440
Discoveries or Breaking Bigfoot. Then we'll see a picture of

1092
01:06:04.480 --> 01:06:07.519
a sasquatch with my face on it, and you'll see

1093
01:06:07.639 --> 01:06:10.440
the majority of everything I talked about tonight on on

1094
01:06:10.480 --> 01:06:13.039
that channel. That's what I'd say. That'd be the most

1095
01:06:13.079 --> 01:06:17.360
direct source. I don't I have like ninety videos or something.

1096
01:06:17.480 --> 01:06:19.400
I only make a video when I have new evidence.

1097
01:06:19.440 --> 01:06:21.239
If I don't have new evidence, and it takes a year,

1098
01:06:21.480 --> 01:06:23.519
and we'll see a video for a year. You know,

1099
01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:26.119
I see a case, it's so interesting. I got to

1100
01:06:26.159 --> 01:06:29.960
do a breakdown myself. But yeah, Breaking Discoveries is the

1101
01:06:30.280 --> 01:06:33.639
YouTube channel, the Breaking Big for threies. It's there. If

1102
01:06:33.639 --> 01:06:36.679
you want to hear the podcasts that I've done, not

1103
01:06:36.840 --> 01:06:38.840
all of them, but a lot of them, just go

1104
01:06:38.840 --> 01:06:42.639
to my playlists and you'll see the podcast interviews, some

1105
01:06:42.679 --> 01:06:45.960
of the interviewser for my movie stuff. There's another playlist

1106
01:06:46.000 --> 01:06:49.599
called the Prenmum through sixty that's one of my UFO

1107
01:06:49.840 --> 01:06:53.199
videos that I've filmed, and stuff like that. But yeah,

1108
01:06:53.599 --> 01:06:56.199
if you just want to learn about me, go on

1109
01:06:56.280 --> 01:06:59.480
Google or whatever search engine you're using and type in

1110
01:07:00.280 --> 01:07:06.039
Jesus Ion Junior Actor or just Jesus Junior Actor, Breaking

1111
01:07:06.079 --> 01:07:09.360
Dad's Gonzo. Any of those things will bring up the

1112
01:07:09.480 --> 01:07:12.599
ridiculous amount of stuff that I do, And yeah, it's

1113
01:07:12.639 --> 01:07:16.519
it's that's me. I'm here I'm reachable. You can reach

1114
01:07:16.639 --> 01:07:21.360
me on Facebook. Just search my name j Junior. If

1115
01:07:21.360 --> 01:07:23.960
you want to write me an email. It's kind of

1116
01:07:23.960 --> 01:07:29.480
a complicated email, but it's breaking. Dad's Gonzo at gmail

1117
01:07:29.760 --> 01:07:32.440
four twenty at gmail dot com. So it's b R

1118
01:07:32.599 --> 01:07:35.920
E A K I N G b A D S

1119
01:07:36.559 --> 01:07:40.039
g O n z O four two zero at gmail

1120
01:07:40.079 --> 01:07:44.199
dot com. If you want to share your experience, images, video,

1121
01:07:44.760 --> 01:07:47.519
hit me up. I don't hate they need me to

1122
01:07:48.159 --> 01:07:50.679
like enhance any pictures or anything you think it might

1123
01:07:50.719 --> 01:07:55.159
be something interesting. I don't charge. I'm happy to do

1124
01:07:55.199 --> 01:07:57.960
it for free. I just want to further the research

1125
01:07:58.039 --> 01:08:00.000
and all that we're doing in the strange and unknown.

1126
01:08:00.840 --> 01:08:04.239
That's fantastic. And I think probably because you have a

1127
01:08:04.239 --> 01:08:07.599
heart like that, that's why you have all the stuff

1128
01:08:07.800 --> 01:08:10.119
that happens to you, because you've got that pure heart.

1129
01:08:10.760 --> 01:08:14.719
That's just my personal opinion. But I've seen, you know,

1130
01:08:14.760 --> 01:08:16.760
people that are in it for money, they're usually not

1131
01:08:16.800 --> 01:08:19.680
going to experience a much. So anyways, that's an.

1132
01:08:20.560 --> 01:08:22.600
I'm broken to joke. I got too for money and

1133
01:08:23.199 --> 01:08:26.560
whatever else I can do for work. I worked my

1134
01:08:26.600 --> 01:08:29.079
ass off with my family and I am not riched

1135
01:08:29.079 --> 01:08:33.239
by any means and I haven't made any good money

1136
01:08:33.439 --> 01:08:38.640
off of the Bigfoot world like no, no, I just

1137
01:08:38.680 --> 01:08:41.359
do it because I love it and I want to

1138
01:08:41.039 --> 01:08:44.199
get the truth out there. If you can, you know,

1139
01:08:44.680 --> 01:08:45.199
I love it.

1140
01:08:45.399 --> 01:08:47.800
Jesus, thank you so much for coming on. It has

1141
01:08:47.840 --> 01:08:49.800
been a pleasure chatting to you tonight.

1142
01:08:51.079 --> 01:08:53.039
Thank you for having me. A honored to be on

1143
01:08:53.079 --> 01:08:55.439
your show, brother, and let's do it again soon.

1144
01:08:55.920 --> 01:08:58.720
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1145
01:08:58.880 --> 01:09:02.159
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1146
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1147
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1148
01:09:08.760 --> 01:09:12.079
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1149
01:09:12.119 --> 01:09:16.239
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1150
01:09:16.279 --> 01:09:19.439
it's all about sharing the show wherever you can. If

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you've had a Bigfoot encounter related to the following, or

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know someone who has, please reach out to me at

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Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com or pass on my email.

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Here's the list. If you've had any encounters in Oregon,

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which I'm sure there's probably a few of you out there,

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please feel free to reach out immediately. You can use

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email Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. A special thank

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you to all the Bigfoot Society Patreon and YouTube channel members.

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It's your support that helps keep the show going and

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I extremely appreciate it. If you want to join in

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the fun, you can join over at patreon dot com

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forward slash the Bigfoot Society. I'll see you there, and again,

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thanks for listening.

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Her and I can get on here. We can tell

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our stories.

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Maybe there's somebody else out there listening it's too.

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Afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will.

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Give them the courage to come out. And now I

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feel so bad about it. Who cares what anybody's thinks.

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I know what I saw, I know what's out there.

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That's all I care about.

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Please let people know, Please let them know. If you've

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ever seen one of these things, you need to tell

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because if you don't, then.

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Shame on you.

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You know, shame on you.