Caught in the Rain With the Hairy Folk!

0:00 You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us. Hey, Melissa, how are you. I'm good. How are you doing great? So have you had a bigfoot experience? Yes? When I was young, I did.

0:41 Are you over eighteen? Yes, I'm forty five. Okay, sorry. You have a very youthful voice, which is great. Yeah. Is that something you could share tonight? Yeah, for sure. I actually listened to your podcast a lot, so when I saw you on live, I was like, whoa, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I come from Eastern ban Cherokee of North Carolina. My grandma casts him to a sakadu or hairy man. I grew up in the Appalachia Mountain of southwest Virginia. I don't know if you've ever heard of that area. It's like near East Tennessee, eastern. Kentucky that area.

1:24 So I grew up in a really very denced area of the mountains. My grandmother used to tell us when we were younger, we have to close the shes at night because the hairy man would look through the windows. And this one particular night, my cousin and I forgot to close the shades. We were on the second floor. We spent the night with her on the weekends because I lived in about an hour away, closer to the Tennessee warder and she lived closer to the eastern Kentucky border. Anyways, sorry, it's my first time telling this ever to anybody outside. Oh wow with a bank So. No, it's no problem. I tell people like friends, but not anybody else. But anyways, I was asleep it was probably like two thirties in the morning, and I woke up to something tapping on the window and I was like, okay, So I look out and I see a big black silhouette, which is little eyes.

2:25 The eyes were like kind of like a hazel color. I can see the eyes, but just a big black silhouette because it like blocked out the light of the of the window. And I obowed my cousin. Her name was Chamberlaine. I elbowed her, told her like, hey, do you see that? And she starts screaming like instantly, because she was probably eleven, I was probably more like a fifteen around fifteen sixteen. She's screaming, what is that? What is that? But when I noticed it, it like tapped on the window, but kind of like pointed his finger for me to come outside, which was kind of creepy. So I instantly elbowed her. Of course, I was closest to the window, My grandma was closest to the wall, and then my cousin was in the middle. Everybody jumped up.

3:12 My uncle got out of the bed. He went outside, and there was nothing there. It disappeared like it like vanished. It was too it was too big to be a human, because it would have had to be at least seven eight foot tall to even hit that window. I told my grandma what it looked like. She told me that we should have shut the shades because I think she was asleep before we got there because he's been a long time, of course before she we got in the bed before after her, and she just said it was probably the hairy Man. Well, my great uncle. Lived deeper in the woods, and he told me the hairy man would come out at nighttime all the time picking their windows. Also, he had like cattle, and they would steal the calves when the cattle would have the babies or whatever. But he lived deep in the mountains.

4:10 But he called him the hairy man too. But my grandma had another name, like I said, Toussacado. But yeah, I saw it when I was probably like fifteen sixteen, and since then, I mean, I've believed I've been told stories as a child, the little people, the hairy Man, the rotten u we call something called the spear finger. I don't know if you've ever heard of any of these folklore, yep, but I grew up on that kind of folklore. I wasn't the person who was I saw this and it changed my life because it's not supposed to be there. I was the person who'd been told this since I was little, that these things were real. Not to listen to your name being called, not to whistle after dark, close your windows, she so it wasn't like a surprise. But there've been a lot of things my grandma had seen in that area, not just Bigfoot, other things like gnomes. She would tell me about little people all the time.

5:08 Gnomes. Uh, she talked about the wumpus catalot, things like that. Yeah, but I was very young, and I've been a big foot believer of course since i was little. But seeing that it was just too big. And someone posted a video online, not probably a couple months ago. I seen it and it was exactly what I had seen, exactly the same style like. It's just it was so black. That you couldn't tell it was anything. All I could see was a silhouette of something big, and I could see the finger like a human finger. It was a humanoid, it was it was different.

5:53 I think that is so. That is that is creepy beyond belief. Do you remember looking outside the next day to see if there is anything weird you could see in the daylight, like tracks or anything like that. I guess I was too. Young to think about that, you know what I mean. And then my uncle he just jumped up out of the bed and literally in his underwear right outside. He's like there's nothing out there. My grandma, my cousin, she remembers to the stage. She don't I don't really talk to her that much anymore, but she remembered it last time I talked to her about it, because she was really young. It scared her to where she screamed, like I was trying to keep it low key, like, don't scream, let's kind of see what's doing kind of thing. But I was also told stories of when we were young that they love, they like children and women, and they like to lure kids out. And that's why you don't listen to your name being called or whistling or baby cries, because they like to lure you out. And I don't know if they have a factuation with women or children, but I do know that there's a story about a Cherokee girl who married a bigfoot.

6:56 Really I've never heard that one. Yeah, so she was I don't know if she was. She wasn't stolen, she was, she married one, but my grandma said they were still women and children, So I don't know if that was our lord to come outside. It was kind of creepy a little bit, and I wasn't scared. I just tried to get someone else's attention so they could see what was going. On too, you know what I mean. So, but my grandma didn't see it, not that she didn't believe, she just didn't see it. It was just me and my cousin. Like, inness you you really grew up in the thick of it down there. Thank you for sharing what you've experienced. That's exciting. I mean, I'm glad I could share with someone who was like outside of my friend group, who doesn't look at you weird and like just believe in that.

7:43 And I'm like, yeah, do you believe you're the only thing on this planet? Like come on, yeah, So and I've seen I've seen I've seen the UFOs two later on yeah, later on my life. So I've seen some weird. Stuff, but that man, crazy stuff. Would you be okay if I could use this audio from our conversation on the podcast? Oh yeah no, that's awesome, and I'll be listening to it. I said, I saw you in here, and I was like, let me join because I want to see what it's about. And I don't care to tell you my story because I want somebody to know that they're real, they're not it's not something people make up. Too many people that say these things too much folklore in my tribe, there's.

8:29 Just no way, you know. Absolutely well, Melissa, thank you so much for coming up. I do appreciate it. Hi there, how are you? Hi? Am good? Yeah? Well, my story is. Like, it's kind of a I don't know if it was a bigfoot because I couldn't really see that it was, but it was definitely a huge shattle thing, and it creeped me out. It was like, right, yeah, so I passed the Tioga Pass and Yosemite rate and so I'm pretty sure that it was a bigfoot, I want.

9:10 To say, but I am not one hundred percent sure because it like. So I spent like a day in the forest, you know, when it became night and I was camping and my cats. I had two cats, and they wanted to go pee, and all of a sudden, my cats freak out. They don't make a sound. So that freaked me out. So I go in, like, you know, I go and check on them, and uh, all of a sudden, I also see what they were looking at and they were frozen like cats, you know. So what I saw was like a big black shadow like it just was huge. But I couldn't see eyes or anything. But I froze, was you know, That's all I could remember. But the thing was huge. It was like I don't know.

10:06 Ten feet wow, ten feet tall. Yes, And I didn't know what to do. So I started calling my cats and I it's almost like you're frozen, you know. But I don't know if it was because I was so scared it was doing something to me. I really don't know. It was like I just couldn't It was like I was paralyzed. I don't know if that makes any sense, but I don't know if it was. No. Absolutely, I've been through that myself, where I wasn't able to move for about five minutes in an area. So did it eventually leave on its own then or what happened? I think I honestly, I think I I am froze after like the five minutes or so, and then all of a sudden, all I could just remember is like grabbing my cats and I put them in the car as fast as I could, and I just took off.

10:56 So I drove away. That's how I got. I thought it was following me because I but you know, you just it's almost like this thing if it's a big food, it's almost like they know. It's like they talk to you telepathically. I don't know if that makes any sense, No. It absolutely does. What is it that makes you think. That, though? Because I just felt that, like I felt like it followed me throughout, Like even when I was far away and I was able to go into like a little town and I got away from the forest, it was like. I could still feel it, like trying to call me back. It's weird. I don't know how to explain it.

11:38 It is not weird at all, because I've talked to so many people and I've experienced this myself, where you're in an area, you have interaction and then all usually they say their dreams get very intense and they are they feel like they're getting drawn back to the area for months and months afterwards. Yeah, it's a very very common thing. It's weird because I feel sometimes like whatever it is is trying to call me, Like, you know, it's weird, but I am scared, you know. After that experience, I kind of I got freaked out and I don't go alone per se to the forest anymore.

12:23 It's it's very interesting. I have not had. I've not had any witness I've talked to where they've had that experience in addition to having the encounters, so your yours is pretty unique. I'm sure that that's also happened before. I just haven't talked to those witnesses yet. But would you be all right if I if I use the audio from our conversation in a big foot podcast that. I have, Yeah, that's fine, but if if you know you won't use my name? No? Absolutely not? Okay, great? Then yeah, absolutely perfect.

13:06 Well, thank you for coming up. I appreciate you sharing about. That's an area I have never had anyone share about. What was the year on that? Again? I how am I encounter in twenty twenty three? So yeah, okay, and then my grandma passed away like the next year in April, which was really weird. But yeah. Wow. Well, thank you for sharing and for coming up. I appreciate you coming up and keep us in the loop if you ever experienced anything else out there? Okay, thanks Tom? How are you I see your comment year from out there in the Pine? Or yeah?

13:47 Yeah, really good to talk to you. I've been following your show for quite a while. Now. And you know, I had lived in an Oregon my whole life, but I've been here about twelve years in La Pine, Oregon. I'm a contractor and I have multiple friends that I've talked do that have had experiences, but I had one even. I live out in Ponderosa Pines outside La Pine, which is just real close to the upper to Shoots River where it comes out of Wikiap Reservoir. And there was one night I was talking with my mom on the phone on my back porch, and our back porch was blm land, you know, as far as you could go all the way to Walldo Lake, you know.

14:28 And I was talking with her on the phone that night and I was looking out there and all of a sudden, I see these big red, glowy eyes and it flipped me out. I told my mom, I go, Mom, I can't believe it. I'm looking out there in the forest right now. I see these big glowy eyes and they were way up high, like pretty tall. So I was like, I need to get my labbador out here. You know, he was in the house. I'm just out in the backyard, you know. So I got my labbador out there, but the time that I took to get him out there. By the time I got him out there and called him out, those eyes were gone wow. And I'll tell you what after the other stories that I have from a few other friends that I know around here, like, for instance, I know a blacksmith here in town that him and his wife they had their horses up at Elk Lake, you know where they you know that area up there where you can have your horses and stuff and park your trailer and all that stuff.

15:31 They were up there and it was a real slow weekend, like they were the only campers up there. And what he said was is in the middle of the night they had an experience where their horses started freaking out. So Connie went out there to check on the horses, and she got him calmed down and everything, and then came back inside and like her husband said, you know, she came back to bed. They didn't even lock the door on the trail on their fifth wheel and about fifteen minutes later they hear their trailer just goes bam, bam bam. Something slammed on the side of their fifth wheel way up high at the very top corner and it dentted it in and they were freaked out. They didn't know what to think. But he right away was like, because he already believed in sasquatch, he was thinking, you gotta be kidding me. This could be a sasquatch doing this.

16:33 And so the whole night they were freaked out hiding out in there, that they heard footprints all around their whole fifth wheel. And I guess when they got up the next morning, it finally calmed down enough where they left and they went to bed, and when they got up the next morning, they found three different size footprints of bigfoots all around their fifth wheel, and they actually took pictures of them, and they drove all the way home here in the pine and bought some uh some plaster to make cast. Now I got a chance to actually look at their photos before they cast them, and look at the bottom of their actual cast, and they lined up perfect, okay, And it didn't look fishy to me at all. I was I was compelled by it to be honest with you. I know you're out of like are you an oak Ridge or no? Or are you in Eugene No?

17:36 I like this this is gonna blow your mind. I'm in Central Iowa. So yeah, I believe it or not. Yeah, but I I I go out to. Uh Or again. I drove through their want to have that job up there years ago, right. Okay, yeah, yeah, but I love that Actually, yeah, that will lay at National Forest is wild? Dude. Have you ever had anything happen over bydel Lake? You know Odell? You know, I hear I watch a lot of stuff happening in the Oak Ridge Odell, in the area of Waldo Lake, you know. But as far as the people I know around here, I have another cup.

18:31 One old couple. I won't tell your name, but she died a couple of years ago, but I did a bunch of work for her, and she told me, she goes, we've lived your our whole lives. And we were at the backside of Wikia back in the eighties driving our jeep close to dark and they saw she said, they didn't tell anybody for years, but she told me and Jim, she goes, we saw a bigfoot run right out in front of us all the week with like two hawks hopped across the road road in front of him on the back side of Wiki at Reservoir. So you never know, I mean, you know, I have another guy that two years ago was walking his dog in State Wrecked Park right here in the pine and it was late. It was late, you know, late in the winter, kind of coming into spring where there was still a good foot of snow on the ground or soap. And he saw tracks that he could not believe. And he took pictures and showed him to me where he saw like three to four, like between three and four foot strides with huge footprints where you could see where his toes peeled up and then it froze and left the lines of where it froze. It must have been a real cold day.

19:49 And so he called the game warden and he called, uh, let see, had two people out there, the game warden and fishing game. He got out there and they were going away. They didn't want to say much, but he could. He told me, he goes. They were like, we're gonna follow these tracks and see if we can figure this out. Wow. Really, they're all. Around these casgage, I'll tell you what. They're all around these cascades. I really believe that now. Oh, I'll tell you one hundred percent. Dudes like this. Last time in July, I went up north of Oak Ridge. I drove through Lieberg and McKinsey Bridge and a crossover to Sisters. Dude, once you get up there, man, it's like there's no one's gonna save you. You're on your own, dude, it's crazy.

20:38 Oh you get up above Sisters up in there, you know, around Clear Lake and all those areas up there. I mean there is that's such secluded forest up there. Absolutely that. I mean, if there are big poots there there, you know, I believe that. I definitely do. One hundred percent. There's so many places in Oregon I want to get you that it's it's it's hard to get any anywhere else. And I'm almost done cooking right now. I probably should let you go, buddy. Absolutely, talk you mind if you buddy? Can I use the audio from this in the podcast? Are you cool with that? Oh? Yeah, all right, permission?

21:19 Ye? All right, sir. It's been great. Hopefully talk to you later. Man. Yeah, you got it, buddy, all right, Tom's Tom's a good guy. You can tell he's a good guy. Hey man, how you doing good? How are you doing, sir? I'm doing well. Hey. I got a little story for you, Yes, sir, Yes, sir, Hey, I live in East Texas in the Davy Crockett National Force. Sure, a couple of years ago, I was hunting and I was home, and I had a dough walk up on me and everything. And she was eating corn and stuff like that, and all of a sudden her head perked up.

22:11 She was looking around, and all of a sudden she jetted. And when she jetted, there was something about eight foot tall that jumped her and everything. I mean, I don't know if you got her or whatever, but he was about eight foot tall. He was brownish gray. I don't know what I saw, but I know what I saw wasn't natural. And if you keep up with the Davy Crockett National Forest, that's where a lot of the Gulf Coast bigfoot research people come out, yep. And man, what I saw.

22:57 Was a bigfoot. Oh oh my goodness. I don't I don't have a whole bunch to say about it, but I just want to say, man, it's something that that gave me the chills. And he was about eight foot tall. Couldn't see his face, he was just brownish gray, and he was in the Davy Crockett National Forest. Sure, I'll tell you you're not the first I've heard that have had things happen in that forest for sure? Uh, in that area, East Texas is a wild area. Have you heard anything over by Boak and Springs and Angelina National Forest? What National Forest? Angelina by Zabala?

23:37 Yeah that's yeah, Angelina National Forest, Davy Crockett National Forest. Everything. I know there's a lot of stuff going on around Livingston, Texas and everything, but uh, yeah, I wasn't sticking around, you know, he was on that doze, but like like, I mean, he was owner like quick and yeah, man, I love what you're doing and everything, but we do have these things around here and people need to be careful. Oh yes, sir, absolutely, yep. Absolutely. Hey, you know, do you mind if I use the audio from this conversation in the Bigfoot podcast?

24:25 I have absolutely? Man, all right, all right, well thank you for coming up. Are you a hunter yourself? Do you go out looking for them? So I'll tell you it's an interesting thing because it started out talking to people, and uh, it's very engaging, and it has gotten to the point where I've gone out in places in Oregon and I go out to places in Iowa where I'm from, and the line kind of becomes blurry right between. I would see journalist and researcher at times.

25:05 Right, well, man, you need to come to East Texas and check it out and everything around deer seas and everything. So uh yeah, a man, Hey, we're full of them. I have a neighbor that lives out in the Brass River bottom and everything, and she has been run out of her house by one that just she it's run her out of her house. I mean it beats on the it beats on the side of her house and everything. And this lays about eighty years old. Oh my goodness, that's gonna stop. Yeah. I mean.

25:47 I have some people around here that kind of bait them a little bit with apples and oranges and stuff like that and everything. But I don't know of anything in the Davy Crockett National Forest where they're doing that. But that day changed my life. These things are real. They're out there. I would love to talk to that lady. She needs help. I might be able to get her some help. Hey, that would be awesome, man. Yeah, because we're right here on the Trinity River. Well, I'm about fifteen miles from them, but she lives in the bottom of the river and everything, and this thing has scared her to do.

26:32 My email's big Foot Society at gmail dot com. I can give you a phone number right now too, if that might be easier for Okay, it's just let me know if you're able to make a note of it. Yeah, let me get a pin real quick. Okay, all right, won't you tell me what's your number? It's five and five uh five oh five five one five. Uh one uh ato nine oh one six five oh one?

27:19 Uh and where you're at? You're in hour yep Iowa. An easy thing she could do is start putting up a few game cams around her house. No, let's already run her out of herrow. Oh she won't go back. No, she ain't going back. Oh brother, Yeah it's bad. Yeah. Whenever you start getting comfortable around something, are gonna come visit you? Mm hmm, Joe. But yeah, man, I just want to share my little story with you about the Davy Crockett National Force and everything. Man. I appreciate you listening, Thank you for your phone up number and everything. But if you ever get a chance, come to David Crockett National Forest in Houston County, Texas.

28:07 Come on, all right, Yes, sir, Yes, sir, all right, well thank you for coming up. Man. Oh absolutely, thank you for listening. Buddy man. That was legit. That was a good dude. That was a good dude. Feel bad for that. Uh, I feel bad for that lady though. Hey Joseph, how are you, sir? Doing good? How are you defeeling doing well? What brings you up today? Well? I just thought I want to share a couple of accounts I been seen between Texas and Washington State.

28:50 Okay, well, I don't know you like which state you want to hear first, I'll let you choose. Well, I'll b by Texas. I was I was twenty five at the time, and I had to get to work one morning and I was waiting at but stuff. It was like five am and it was still dark and everything. As I was waiting for the bus. You know, it is only it's like an outskirts of town. And I heard this tree knock because it across me there was you know a bunch of forests and stuff like that. Yes, I had for this, but I trailed their homes and other stuff people people live in. So anyways, I heard the tree knocks and I ignored it at first. And as time went on, like thirty or forty five minutes later, big uh. I'm not saying a big giant boulder, but it was a good sized rock. It was thrown like at me, but barredy missed me, and so I went.

30:02 I walked towards where the rock was thrown from, and I asked, and I shout, and I said, anyone there her tree knock again. And then at the same time, another rock was doing at me. This time I had to move. It was going towards me, so I decided to do I got the same, well not not exactly the same rock, but another good sized rock. I decided to throw the rock back at it, and I'm sure I hit it, and it really pissed this thing off. And they are a good grunt and I moved towards it.

30:43 As I was moving towards it, I see the yellow beam eyes and reddish hair. It was around seven to eight feet tall. And when I saw this thing, I grabbed another rock and a stick. I just starts doing shit, and it just it took off. And. I believe I was being challenged. I was challenging a sasquash because it went so fast it could scoot and one and the other time I was in Washington state. Before you start Washington, what part of Texas was this in?

31:28 Do you mind sharing that. It was in the outskirts of San Antonio? Oh? Really, wow? It was between. It was between the outskirts between it's going out between the I forgot what interstate, but I used to live in the little town between Elmador, Texas and Santorini, Texas. I live in the outskirts of town of the south side of San Antonio, and you know I used to live right there, and that's when my first encounter happened. Like I said, I was only twenty five at the time, I was young. So if you and if I may, I could start my watching a state one. If you don't mind, go right ahead, go right ahead.

32:09 This has happened in twenty thirteen. My daughter was like one at a time, and we went camping and her and her mother were cooking, and her mom came up to me. She goes, she goes, bab, I'm like, what she goes, there's a gofill smell, like a stench. I was like, I smelled too, So I decided went over there hellone again, like I always do. This time I heard instead of throwing rocks at me, I was just getting another tree knock. So I got a stick. I decided to do a tree knock again, and I'm like, oh boy, I told myself round two. I told myself, I hope that's not the same one. I mean at this time, I ain't took a good look at this one, but I did the most loudest tree knocks and it kept knocking. And once at these tree knocks, it got closer and closer, it sounded like I was surrounded, like it was all around me this time. So this time, I well, I don't know. I'm pretty sure I pissed him off, though, well because I'm the type of guy who stands his ground, so I had to pee really value.

33:34 So I pissed by a tree. And the dumbest thing, the funniest thing, though, I was tree knock at the same time I was. I was peen, and my wife came up to me. She goes, what on earth are you doing? And I said, beb whatever's out in these woods. I'm telling it to stay at stay out of my hair, so as I'm marking it. And she thought it was crazy. And later on that night we were sleeping again, we heard all a bunch of tree knocks like they were pissed, not just I, I guess I pissed in the tree. It got to a point that we had to get out of there because it was just like too much, and I really pissed them off. I suppose.

34:23 Literally and figuratively. What part of Washington was this? Then? It was like it was in the outskirts of Shacklepy Scape. Yeah, Shock, I mean not Shackapy. Oh, I remember the name. What was it? No? I was sorry, it wasn't Shock, it was it was the outside the coma. And that's when I decided, I mean myself as an independent paranormal investigator. But I'm just doing out in the Midwest right now. So I'm out of the Midwest and I'm doing my own investigation and I just did just gotten doing a ghost hunting one in a small town called Elberty, Minnesota. It was a hot theater and this place used to be a hospital for the Spanish flu back in the nineteen twenties and the twenty six years. One died there of complication of the flu. And this most activity happened in the basement, so I recorded some sounds and stuff and not much but just the life flickering. But all I got was culture and I know something was there. And I don't think that Labe was going to do harm. She just didn't want to leave. And the person came up to

35:58 me the other day wants me to do an investigation, to go to Wisconsin do investigation the beef and great Road. So that's my next assignment. Well that's great. Yeah, that'd be a fun one man that that gets so wild up there. So but yeah, I decided to call myself the Midwest Monster Hunter. I love it. I love it, dude, because you know, yeah, like if they're going to groove, I do so low. Gotcha, Well, dude, keep us, keep us in the loop with what happens next for you. But you know, right, if I use this conversation audio and my big SI podcast.

36:42 Please most certainly get get my story out there and I could become known. And I just followed you, and you know, like I said, though, there's always something out there bumping in the night, and we are now alone in this whole planet. That's one thing that's one's for sure though. Well, absolutely I agree with that. Welldge, Joseph, thank you for coming up. Man, I am going to check them with thank you. Thank you for giving me the opportunity. You have a good name. I don't have a good Yeah. There. How are you doing today? I'm doing good? How are you great? Great? What brings you up? Sir? H Well, I just wanted to share my story. I'm from eastern Kentucky, Okay. Last year, we was out riding cyb asides and uh we come off a reclaimed strip job down into a deep hollor we call it dark collar.

37:34 And my friend and his wife was in front of me and they have a little bit bigger of a cyb a side set up a little bit better, and they went through this mud hole and I had my two boys with me, so I kind of took a different way and I got I got held up. I had to move some a little bit of brush to get through the creek, and they was on ahead of me. And when I was moving the brush, they come speeding back and Uh, my buddy, Chris, he jumps out. He says, man, we gotta get out of here. And I said, what's going on? Dude? He said, something is hollering on both sides of the hills and down there. He said, I don't know what he is. And I'm thinking maybe it's just some kind of owl or something, or it's just somebody messing with him.

38:20 And so we get the brush cleared and I jump on him my side a side and I get up on earth creek and I kind of pass him up and I just watch watch behind me there, you know, to see where you know, he was stopped at. And he told me to stop, and we shut off the side of sides there and I stepped out and uh, we was on on down the creek there, and uh, something gets thrown about kim foot from their side to side, and it's just like a stick or something. And I pull out my glock and I shot two shots took there and I kind of went about walked about ten feet up on the bank and a rock goes whizzing right by the side of my head. I mean it, they this thing through it so hard, man, you could hear it like wiz by my ear. And just as soon as it did, man, it led out a big, big howl, like a screeching howl.

39:22 Man. And I knew write them what it was, you know, because I was kind of a skeptic or whatever. And I've heard stories, but I wasn't going to stick around. You know. I had my boys in the side beside and they was already spooked and we got out there, dude, And that was my experience. It's a different situation, especially when you got family involved or friends. And you said it was an eastern Kentucky was it a. Yeah, it's right at the Johnson Johnson Martin Floyd County line. Okay, gotcha. Well I looked that up real quick. I can have an idea.

40:02 And uh, that buddy that was riding with me, he actually works for Pocahontas Trail Development Company, and uh, he's got a picture. They him and his buddy was going through there and they was mapping trails and they they got a picture of one bigfoot right down the railroad tracks. It's like some railroad tracks that's not in you know, in service. And I'm trying to get a hold of him right now and have him send that picture to me. And when he does, I'll send you the picture. Oh man, I mean, if you could, that would be incredible. Yeah, yeah, no problem.

40:47 That next weekend, Uh, you know, when I tell my boy's home to the mom me and me and Chris went back up here and I took my rifle with me and everything. And we've seen a couple of footprints in the mud, but they kind of look like human footprints. They wasn't very It's about the size of my foot about it, ten to twelve inch princh, you know, not very wide. So I don't know. It could have been a juvenile. I'm sure nobody's up there with with no with no shoes on. I'm well, the. Thing, yeah, that is the thing. Well, man, you are you are having some wild stuff happened out there, you know, gept be sure in the loop if stuff continues to happen when you go out. But is this a conversation I can use on my podcast?

41:40 Absolutely? All right? Cool, Well, thank you Adam for coming up man, no problem, Yeah, mister hook, how's it going. I'm all right. I'm sixty five years old. So when I'm eighteen nineteen years old, and even before that, probably seventeen sixteen, me and my fishing buddy used to go to a place. I don't know if you know where Marshall County, Iowa is. At Marshall County, I believe so. But let me look real quick. The Iowa River runs through marsh Marshalltown. Yeah, absolutely, Okay, So the Iowa River runs you'll see a little town of Albion, and there's a long ago river it's called Mormon Ridge. The reason it's called Mormon Ridge is when the Mormons went out to where they're at now, they got held up one winter and a lot of lost their life here on this bridge. And I used to fish this bridge called Indian Bridge. Now he got his name because there was an Indian settlement just off the side of this bridge many many years ago. So me and my buddy fish are quite often. And it started

43:14 out we would it be around, you know, it'd be well after dark or trying to fish all night. And the first time I had to encounter was an owl booted and all of a sudden, I heard this screen I've never heard before in my life. And within I'm going to say within two minutes, it was like it was right underneath us on this bridge, and it was very scary, very traumatic. I mean it was loud enough that I didn't us stay there. We left.

44:04 I went back. Before I was an amateur radio operator, I parked my van on a bridge, was talking to my friends while fishing, and it came back. It ran me off that night. I didn't even rew my pulls up. I just shut the doors and took off. So then one other time, there's a night that me and another gentleman walked to about a mile and a half back to a feeder creek that feeds into the Iowa River. And we were on a sandbar and there was a big curve and that bank on the other side was probably twelve to thirteen feet high. And after our fire night out that night, this thing came out on this tree that had warshed out into the river and fell into the river. It went out on that tree, grabbed this branch and was slamming it into the water, which we're right across from it.

45:12 And I'm telling you, you talk about being scared, and we're back there with flashlights. So to leave was I mean, it was dramatic, and the sound that it made I'll never forget. And when I told the story to my friends and people here around it, NA, you're kidding, You're kidd And that didn't happen. So there was four carloads of us guys that go out there one night and I told them, I said, you just wait, and that owl sound came again, and the same thing happened with the scream of this what I know was bigfoot, and it got to a point where I don't even I don't even want to I didn't even want to go back and to.

46:08 Be out there. It put all of us on our I mean we basically duck and ran to our vehicles to lead and it was pretty traumatic. And it's been known for him to for it to frequent that area. And you're not far from me, because you're in five to one five area because so I'm assuming you're in Story County or. I'll tell you this, I'm on the other side of the Moine, but not too far. Okay, Well, i'll tell you what. I could take you out there, and I guarantee you you'd have an experience. Really, I'm in the U six four to one area code, like I said, from the State Center, I'm just more and it runs that river and the Iowa River, and it is scared the heck out of me many times, and it's I haven't been out there in probably twenty years, but I grant you it's still there. I know it is.

47:35 And to be out there alone or to be with a buddy and be out on that bridge and to have it do what it done to us. I mean, it just make your hair stand up. The scream alone was you could hear it probably for a mile, and all of a sudden it sounds like it's right underneath a bridge. News that fun that the screams. Eighties. Yeah, it would have been, well, I'm sixty five now, so it would have been in the eighties, Okay, yeah, the late eighties or early Yeah, the late eighties, because I would have been I was in my twenties and thirties when I was going out there. You know, it started even when I was younger as seventeen. That's where we fished. But once it got in the area, every time I can't figure out why the owl is with it.

48:39 You hear the owl, and after the owl, lookout with all Hell's gonna break loose because it's like it's some I don't know if it's a messenger, if it's it doing the. Owl sound or what. But the scream that it makes and the noise it makes, I don't want a. Part of it. I don't want to face with it. And when we were out there. We were back to almost a mile and a half two miles back in September and following this feeder creek that feeds into the Iowa River, and that bank is nine feet tall, ten feet tall, and it's three o'clock in the morning, and the fires died down and we don't have any more wood to put on it, and this thing is lashing out at the water.

49:36 It's a it's a stick because we heard we heard it break it and all of a sudden it just starts slamming the water. And it was just, yeah, it was. It wanted us. Out of there, no doubt about it. Man. I mean, people don't realize how crazy Iowa can get for bigfoot stuff, especially the Des Moines River. I also has some crazy stories from over the years, all the way down to Missy Border. Yeah. I wouldn't want to come face it, I can tell you that. And I don't understand why what it has to do with the owl that I've taken many people out there and I've told them you wait, it'll show up, and it's sure enough, there's that owl sound and then there's that screen.

50:35 And it's just. It's hard to describe. And some some wild wild stuff, mister hook, thank you so much for coming up. Do you mind if I use this conversation for my podcast I have? I don't care, all right, I'll tell you what. You ever want to get scared or you ever want to try to have an encounter, look me up. I'm glad to take you off. I'm going to follow you just so I have a contact for you. But thank you so much. Man, All right, enjoy it, guys, and you have a good one.

51:18 You two thinks? Hey Brian, how are you? Hey? Brother? I'm doing good? What brings us? Just jumped on here and was looking at some lives and noticed that you were doing a Bigfoot live. And I don't ever get on these. I don't. I don't follow these a whole lot because I've had experiences in my life and anytime you try to tell somebody something you know exactly how that goes, well, you have actually to get a hold of me. You probably read some of my comments.

52:00 I saw one of them that was pretty interesting. Yeah. So back in oh my gosh, it was I'm fifty two now when I heard when I my first experience, and uh I was I believe at that time I was ten maybe eleven. I think I was eleven years old and my buddy was a couple of years older than I was. We all had a lived in rural Missouri and you know, played in the woods. We were still familiar with the. Woods we were we work with all the time, squirrel hunting, rabbit hunt and whatever. One day we were playing out in the yard, jumping bikes over ramps and you know, having a good time like kids do, and we decided we're just going to go to the woods, because that's what we did all the time. Well, the woods after we crossed into into the wood part, they were different.

53:01 There. There were things different. Stephen and I I'll never forget this. My buddy, Steve and I both stopped and we were like, what is going on? Trees were bent over, there were it was just something that we'd never seen. We've been We grew up in those woods, you know what I mean. We knew those woods like the back of our hands. And there was something different going on and these trees and they were young, you know, kind of young trees. They were bent over and out of nowhere. And there's people that believe different things about Bigfoot. This came out of nowhere. Steve and I both stopped. I'll never forget this.

53:52 We both stopped because the woods were different, and all of the sudden, out of these bent over trees, it was like, and I know this is gonna sound really weird, it was like something opened up and jumped out of like I don't even know it, like a portal maybe you. Know as an older and just crashed. I mean such a loud crash, maybe fifty feet ahead of us. Scared us to death, and I will never forget what it looked like. And we turned around to run and everything was in slow motion. I mean it was like we could not get away fast enough. And the there was like some sort of a weird it's hard to explain, like I had almost like a magnetism, like a some it was like over the top of us.

55:06 It was. It was crazy. And it wasn't until we hit the tree line to where the houses were back in the country, to where it all just went away. And that was the first I'm going to call that a bigfoot experience because what we saw was a huge What we saw and heard was a huge, hairy something man looking beast ape huge, and it just came out of nowhere. It came out of like a just a space and just landed in front of it with a big, huge crash wow, and it was it was just so I'll never forget this, and Steve and I have not. This is the first I've ever talked about it, and I don't know why I was drawn to your show. I have not mentioned this in detail to anybody over the years. Well, my wife knows, my kids know about it. I mean, you know, close people. But I don't go out and talk about this.

56:19 I mean, I mean, that's something that was very personal and very scary and horrifying. Steven will not talk about it to this day. I mean, it's just something that we don't share with people because it was so out of the ordinary and just so I've learned a lot since then because I did a lot of bigfoot research and I've done UFO research everything else. Now, that was the first experience whenever I was like eleven, so in nineteen I believe it was nineteen ninety six. I think I used to do some storm chasing. I graduated back in nineteen ninety one. Used to do some storm chasing.

57:01 I've been in radio, I've been in broadcasting, for years, thirty two years, and so I was doing some storm chasing and in South Missouri there was, oh my gosh, it was tornadoes running just rampant everywhere they were. It was like a breakout. And I was going down to Twin Bridges. I don't know, there's some people may know about Twin Bridges and in Missouri, but was driving through that area and things were flooding, things were just blowing around. I mean it was crazy, just crazy. And I was going around a corner and Twin Bridges is a there's a canoe rental area down there, and I actually had in mind to check on some canoe prices because someboddies of mine wanted to go canoeing this, that, and the other.

57:55 And I thought, well, this is perfect because I'm headed that way to chase storms. So I thought i'd stopped by the canoe rental place and just kind of see what they had going on. But right at that time, they had some tornadoes going on in that area. Whenever I went around this corner down by where the river was, things were getting flooded out, trees were blowing over. I mean, it was crazy. Oh I think, Brian, I think you may have muted yourself by accident. Oh no, man, just when it was getting good. We'll give him a minute to see if you can figure it out, hopefully.

58:49 I oh my god, it took my breath, but I knew it was a female because you could see the breast area. And Brian, I apologize, you've muted for the last like half a minute. Oh shoot, yeah. So the last thing I heard was like, you were looking into rental canoes. Yes, yes, And we were storm chasing and looking into rental canoes down on the Twin It was there now okay, and the tornado was storm chasing at that time. I reported back to the weather station. All the and up a hill. It was a steep grade walks this bigfoot.

59:37 It was a female. You could she was holding hands with a baby. A small well, he wasn't small, I mean he was like he or she whatever. It was like four foot tall. They were holding hands and they were coming up the hill. That was so steep. You and I could not walk up this hill. I mean, there is no way, and I mean that's a hill that if you wrecked your car around. I mean it was like a twenty five mile prior corner kind of hill down to the canoe rental place, and that was the first female that I'd ever seen. You could tell by the breast, and I mean that was and it took my breath away. I didn't even catch my breath til I got down to the actual canoe rental place.

1:00:26 I'll never forget it. It's burned a place in my brain. She was holding its hand and they were walking up that freaking hill. That's not what's wild. Here is what's wild. Whenever I pulled down to the canoe rental place, there was some old timers in there. You know, it was like one of those places where people just. Kind of hung out. What steps this old guy, this gentleman, was outside and he looks at me and he says, are you okay? And I said, I just saw something up the hill and he says to me, was at Bigfoot And I said, I.

1:01:09 Think it was. And he opens the door and hollers in there, and like three guys come running out and apparently they had experiences or something. I don't know, but these three guys run out and they all go somewhere I don't know. I just stepped out of my car to breathe, You know what I mean, because that experience took my breath. I mean, I didn't even it was crazy. I could have rolled down my window and. Oh no, mut it again.

1:01:58 Thrown there. Yeah, they took off. I don't know if they ever found nothing. I don't know. I went in, I bought a soda and the clerk was kind of in on it, and he was like, what did you see? And I told him what I saw. And I got my soda and I went home. I went to visit my mom. I was. Chasing storms, you know, and it's wild. I think I may have missed a part. So the three guys that went running, where did they go running to? I don't know they headed? Yeah, I would, dude, I was so taken back. I would. I mean, I was out of breath, you know what I mean. I was so whenever I pulled down to the canoe rental place, I didn't I didn't even ask for prices.

1:02:49 So that's a canoe rental placed at three Bridges, Missouri. Yeah, well it's twin Bridges in. A twin Bridge. Sorry, yeah, it's. Yeah, it's done around. Oh god, I used to know that area so well, but I've I've been up the northern part since and but it's got twim bred if. In fact, if you google twin Bridges Canoe rental, yeah, it take your right because they're down there and it's so squatchy. I pstaly it is that. Area, gotcha? Okay, Yeah, that's might look. Might look and said the first story you had with the portal is that is that southern Missouri as well?

1:03:48 Yeah? Yeah, that's the West Plains area, just outside of West Plains. Okay, I just want to look at it real clear. Oh sure, Yeah, Okay, that's awesome. I haven't had anything from that area yet, but that's good to know. Awesome. Wow, thank you for sharing what you've experienced over the years. I really appreciate that. Yeah, I appreciate you and your show. And like I said, I don't share a lot because, you know, after the storm chasing thing, I started doing some bigfoot investigation. I started doing some us UFO investigations and different things like that, and come to find out, over the years the two kind of go hand in hand. I haven't quite figured out that missing link yet, and I don't have time.

1:04:45 I'm fifty two now. I did a lot of investigation and I've found a lot of things out, and I mean it's too much to share here, but I have been around some places like Northview, Missouri, when they had that big sighting down there of UFOs. There was also which was not reported. The UFO siding was reported as a hoax. However, there's more things about that, but there was also some bigfoot sightings at the same time, and that was never reported. I found that out from some locals because I used to go to interviews, this, that, and the other. And I have found out over the years with my investigation. I've been broadcasting forever, like half my life or more, but I have found out that a lot of the times UFO reports and bigfoot reports kind of go hand in hand. So there is a missing link there somewhere that we kind of need to figure out.

1:05:54 You know, I agree one hundred percent. There's a lot of people don't realize that there's bigfoot reports in the mof ON database. From what I've heard, Oh right, yeah, yeah, it's just it's wild. It's wild man, Brian. This has been just a really really fun conversation. Is it one where I know that you don't share this a lot. Would I be able to use the audio from it on my podcast. If not, that's no problem. Yeah, I hope you're a good editor. I probably stuttered a lot, or would. I just have never shared my stories. Anytime that I try to do some there's always trolls.

1:06:36 Some reason. I've found yours on here tonight and I just had some free time, and first I just watched it and was listening to it, and I thought, you know what, I might the whole portal thing. That's the one that I don't share with anybody because nobody believes that. Nobody believes that that first experience that was that Bigfoot did not come from the ground, that it came from somewhere else. And Stephen, Stephen and I seen it with our own eyes. It came from this somewhere the sky, between the trees whatever it we there was an actual light.

1:07:19 I mean it was it sounds like a movie and it was. It was actually came out of something I don't know what, and whenever it came through, it crashed so loud in front of us that we I mean, I can't even explain it. And that's why I never have until tonight, because nobody would believe it. I can't just come face to face with somebody and explain it because I can't you you can't imagine what it was, you know what I mean. It's like all of our little tree I mean, we know these woods like the back of our hands, and all these trees were turned and bent like in a U shape. They met each other, these younger trees, some of them were older. We knew these woods like the back of our hands. And when we got to that part of the woods, we did not recognize and we stopped. And then all of a sudden, something came from somewhere and just exploded, with this creature coming out and landed in front of us. I mean, it shook everything and we turned to run but couldn't run.

1:08:42 Steven and I will both tell you today we were running as fast as we could. I remember the woods going by, but I also remember just not being able to get anywhere. And Steven would say the same thing, but he don't talk about it either. And until we hit the clearing, until we cleared the woods. Right when we hit that wood edge and hit the clearing, that's when everything went off. And Steve and I were both running full speak. I mean, we were kids. We were like, what was that, but we were being chased by a monster that came out of nowhere, came out of not the woods, came out of a freaking circle, came out of a pumple. You know, it's crazy.

1:09:40 It's an incredible story, for sure. I just want to double check. Would I be able to be cleared to use the conversation or what? Do you think? You know what? Go ahead and use it because I'm fifty to you and I've never shared it. Brian, thank you so much for coming and for sharing publicly what you experienced. I appreciate it. I'm going to check in with some other people, but it's been good stalking to you today, sir. Thank you all right, thank you for having me on. Just edit me good okay, you gottare all right? Brother, all right, brother, check in with you soon. I'm going to follow.

1:10:20 Thank you all right, good good stuff. Man. What I can't imagine keeping that in for more than forty forty years. Hey, Karen, how are you? Hey? I'm doing okay. I apologize for sending a request earlier and then chickening out. Oh you're okay. I've never done this before, so bear with me. I've had two experiences little backstory. I'm I'm a real time I was born a tomboy, used to go fishing all the time with my dad. My first experience happened when I was with my dad and I was about twelve years old. I'm sixty years old now, and I'll share the location on this one because it was so long ago. We were at Table Rock Lake down in the Ozarks. We vacationed there every year. My dad would save us time up, you know, and we'd go for a long period of time, like a month, and we were fishing real early in the morning. My dad had a health condition and he would kind of randomly fall asleep.

1:11:44 My mom, you know, go fishing with your dad, which I wanted to go anyway. So we go out there. It's about five thirty six o'clock in the morning, and we have a little trolling motor on the boat. You know. We're going back into a cove. And as we got back into this cove, I heard something. I just assumed it was like deer or something, and I think my dad did too. And my dad was an outdoorsman, and we kind of got back into that cove, you know, and we were going to rest a little bit and do a little fishing back in there, and I think we got too close in because something yelled. At us that was so loud. I just remember that.

1:12:29 Years later, I went to a concert and that like vibration in your chest from the base. It was almost like that. It was unbelievably loud. And it was the first time I ever heard my dad drop the F bomb. He didn't know what it was, scared the living daylights out of me, and I just remember him being like, the effing paddle, the trolling motor wasn't getting us out of there fast enough. He never told my mom. He's like, don't, don't say anything about it, and I never did until years later when I had my second experience, which was only three years ago. Oh wow, if it's okay, I don't want to share the.

1:13:28 Location, that's fine, yep. But I live in Illinois and I actually live. Just south of Pekan in a rural area, a little rural town, and uh, there's been a lot of sightings I know up in the peak in Peoria area a time. One of them was really weird because that that remember that one of that truck driver that was like a mail guy or something, and he was one by Glasgow, Illinois, like in the morning, and it was. Like in the. Yeah, he's come on this live before to talk about it.

1:14:10 Actually, that morning was the same morning of a of a thing we have here called the Spoon River Drive, Okay, and that morning, about an hour and a half later, my daughter, her best friend, and myself went right down that same road. But I didn't know that there was Obviously I didn't know there was a sighting that morning. But yeah, later on that same day we were going down there as part of the Spoon River Drive because we were garage sailing and antiquing and what have you, and we were going to glass Glasgow, I think, is how you pronounce it, and that was. That was kind of weird. I was like, oh my gosh, I was glad I was with my daughter and her friend and we had seen a sasquatch because I think they both would have we would have had to come home because they would have soiled themselves.

1:14:59 I'm sure too. But my experience was I'm a rockhounder, like I said, I'm a real tomboy, and I don't know if you get a lot of rockhounders that. Have called in. A few of them yep. Because you know that takes us out in the deep woods, not on a trail. And this is something that I do. And I can tell you what state. I was in. I was in Arkansas, Okay. I had gone there with one friend and we had kind of taken off that morning and in an area kind of he went one way and I ended up going another. And a small little part of this story, but I can't help but feel like it added to it.

1:15:56 The one girl that was there that that kind of she works in the area. And there was a raccoon that had had babies in a woodpile and they had cleared them out of the woodpile. And I'm guessing the mother must have either taken off scared and didn't come back, or ran back into the woodpile. I don't know, but I know they had these babies, they bottle fed them. They all took off except for one. And that one raccoon that day, that little baby raccoon really wanted to go with me. So she's like hanging onto my pant leg. I ended up picking her up, sticking her up on my shoulder, and taking off. Walked off out in the woods, got on the side of like, I was kind of down in.

1:16:48 Kind of like a it was almost like a. Little gully or pit or whatever, and I was I was doing some mining, and I'm making a lot of noise. I'm slammed, banging around, and every so often I am having a little conversation with this baby raccoon because she was really trying to get to my sandwiches that were in my backpack, which I ended up sharing one with her, and probably, gosh, I would say probably two hours into the time I was down there, I was kind of paying more attention to what I was doing, but I started to like, I smelled something that did not smell very good, and I remember I picked her up and looked at her, and I kind of brought her in close to me and I was like, is that you You haven't smelled like that all day?

1:17:50 What's going on? Kind of thing? And I set her down, and of course she kept running back up on me and stuff, and I was like, okay, and so I give her some more of my sandwich and I'm kind of talking to her and she keeps looking off this one direction and I'm like, okay, well it still stinks in the air, and I stand up and I'm like, I'm down, Like, so this ridge is kind of like kind of hiding me in a way. But it was really really hot that day. It was probably ninety eight degrees with one hundred and four heat index.

1:18:34 So any animal that would have been around there would have smelled me too, I would imagine. But I kind of like, I pop my head up to take a look around, and there was a sasquatch behind a tree, looking out from behind the tree at us, and it was high enough up on the ridge that it saw us.

1:19:15 And I looked at it, and it looked at me, and it put its head back behind the tree. And the tree wasn't big enough to hide the whole creature I'm gonna call, I say creature. The hardest part for me has been. How much it looked like a man. I haven't been able to wrap my head around it completely. And I don't know why. I didn't feel like women have a kind of a sixth sense.

1:20:13 I mean we, and. I mean yeah, I don't think I was breathing for a few but I didn't feel fear, and that doesn't make much sense to me. And this happened three times. He put his head back behind the tree, and I sat back down, and I thought, my friend is not even in screaming distance to me. I got no phone because there's no signal out there anyway. My phone's in my jeep, and I'm just like sitting down there, wondering, like what I should do. I'm five five, one hundred and fifteen pounds. I'm a little bitty thing.

1:21:13 I was. I was scared, but I wasn't scared, if that makes any sense. A lot of it didn't make sense to me, I guess. But so I sat there and all these things went through my head, like if that thing has been there the entire time I smelled it, it could have came down here, picked me up, and carted me away and there wouldn't have been jack nothing I could have done about it. I popped my head back up, and I don't know why I did this, but I mean, this happened three times. I popped my head back up, and it was looking back out from behind the tree at me and the raccoon. And I looked at it.

1:22:10 I mean, I got a look in the face. It had. Like an amber, like a brownish amber eye color, and it wasn't black. It was brown like a darker brown, and it was like hair, like it wasn't for it was like hair. I don't know if anybody's ever said that a lot.

1:22:53 Of people have a lot of people have. Yeah. Wow, how far away from from it were you again? Oh god, I'm not very good with distance. Maybe gosh, I don't know, five hundred feet wow. Like I saw like I saw like his face and his like his shoulder. He was like behind the tree and he was facing to the side, so his body was like a profile to me, and his head was turned and he was leaning back. I saw like the side of like the hip area, and a little bit of the leg because I was looking up, so I did not see feet, you know. And I didn't know what to do. And I got back down, and I thought, I wonder, like what, I don't feel uncomfortable to like walk away.

1:24:14 I'm like frozen here. I didn't know what to do. And I looked back up again and it was still there, but it wasn't looking out at me. So I got back down, and then the third time it was like I went down and then I popped right back up again to see if he was like trying to time me, you know what? I mean. Like a pattern, like if I was going to come back up soon. So I went down and then I came back up soon and he was looking down at us still, but he didn't hurry to go behind the tree, especially like the third time. And I didn't know what I like. I literally was like, I didn't know what to do. There's not many times I'm like I said, I'm kind.

1:25:13 Of a tomboy. I kind of face things head on. I'm a lot of people probably would describe me as being brave or bold. I kind of say what I think, and I don't have a whole lot of a filter sometimes and I just I was at a complete loss as to what to do. I literally I volunteer at a local dog shelter and sometimes with bigger dogs that would be aggressive, I would sit with food and I would talk to them and I would talk him into letting me work with them.

1:26:05 I didn't know what to do. And I was like when I stood back up and it was there, I was like, And the funny thing was was I said the same thing, which there would be no way that I would be able to hurt something like that, But I was like, should I talk He's like hello, and it just looked at me, and I'm like, I'm not going to hurt you. And he looked at me for a minute, and then he put his head back behind the tree and I just kind of stood there for a second, and then I sat back down in there, and then I heard him move away.

1:26:57 He just went back into the woods. I didn't get to hear any noise, Like, he didn't vocalize, he didn't scream at me. I felt like like maybe he was curious what I was doing, or what I was doing talking to this raccoon and giving it food, I don't know, or just curious as to why I was banging on a rock making all that noise. I don't know. I mean they hit three. Maybe he wondered why I was hitting these rocks. Maybe I actually drew him in without knowing or even thinking about it.

1:27:47 It's really it is super interesting. Thank you for sharing what you experience. I appreciate you coming up here. Is it a thing? Where would you be all right if I share this account on the podcast that I have about Bigfoot? Yeah? I would that would be okay. Okay cool? Have you ever been back to that place again? No? I want to go real bad and I have not. But I'll tell you a small little part of this is I have two friends that live off grid that work in the area, and I should I could maybe email you if you didn't share some of the more detailed information.

1:28:45 I have. I'm kind of changing a few things here and there of the location stuff and what was going on. But I have two friends that work in the area. And you may even been able to read between the lines here. I don't know, but. They live off grid and they only drive about five miles to get to this area. And when I shared it with them because I was kind of freaking out, they were like, oh, well, you saw the big guy. Very casually.

1:29:27 And I'm like, so, like you know, and they're like yeah, and they both look at each other and we're like, we should have probably said something before we just let you go down there. Wow, that's wild. And only three years ago. Yeah, and they have been putting baskets of apples in an area where. Not just this one. We have figured out that. The one I had my experience with I believe to be kind of like the equivalent of like maybe a teenager.

1:30:14 The big guy is probably the father of this one, and a female has been seen only a couple of times, and the. Female has a more reddish color to her. The big guy is humongous, huge, eight to nine foot tall. I did see footprints. I was shown the apple area and the footprints going back and forth to that area.

1:31:00 Yeah, lots of. Them, and they I mean, I wear a seven. I can put my foot heel toe, and it was the foot was still bigger than mine. And when I put my feet side by side, they were wider than mine. Okay, wow. But the one that I saw, it was hard to tell because I was looking up, but I'm guessing that maybe it was six and a half to seven foot tall. Its head was huge. The head was huge, and it had like ever since I ever since I came back.

1:31:48 One of the things I've said to people that just my family know, and one of my close friends who is a believer and does follow you and a lot of other people. I told him and I showed him two pictures that were given sent to me by the people that work there, and he freaked out because he said that they were the best photos he had ever seen in his life of a sasquatch. They never shared him.

1:32:34 They don't They don't have Wi Fi. They don't listen to anything. They don't they're completely off gride people. He was pretty excited about it when I told him, But the way that he looked, I if someone told me that they saw a bigfoot and it looked like a gorilla, I would look at them like they were lying. If if somebody told me it looked like a gorilla, I would know that that's not what they did not see.

1:33:15 As watched, they were not talking because it looked like a man. It looks so human. That's been the hardest part for me to wrap my head around. That. That is the thing that a lot of people struggle with that I've talked to, just how it looks so human. It's it's and I haven't had a visual yet myself, but that'll be a hopefully that happens someday. We'll see. But Karen, it has been a pleasure talking to you tonight. Thank you for sharing what you've experienced over the years.

1:33:56 Well, thank you for being there to feel comfortable to share with. I listen. I put my EarPods in at work and I listened to you all the time. I appreciate that. Thank you. Yeah, that's awesome, and I just got to like, you know, after you listen to you for a while, you know, you become more comfortable. And I know that people are not going to make fun of me, and I don't really worry about that because I know what happened to me. I know what I experienced and what I saw, and I now know that after years later, all the audio that's came out, I know that what my dad and I heard when I was a little kid.

1:34:42 Was a sasquatch, absolutely so loud. It was so loud. If anything else happens to you in the future, we would love to hear about it. But thank you so much for coming up, Karen, Thank you, thank you for listening to this episode of The Big Society Podcast Asked. Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth is often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to subscribe to the channel on YouTube, hit the bell so you don't miss the next episode, and share this with a friend who's into mysteries, monsters, or the unexplained. And if you're listening to us on Spotify or Apple Podcast. Please follow the show there and leave us a five star positive review because all that helps more people discover the show. And remember, if you or someone you know has had a Bigfoot sighting, please I'd love to hear from you, so email me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com and let's start the conversation. If you haven't gotten a chance yet, check out our membership community over at www dot Bigfoot Society podcast dot com and that's where you can hear tomorrow's episode today early in ad free and members only episodes every week. Also, it's a place to connect with other people that are into the Bigfoot subject as much as you are. Thanks again for following along with the Big Fat Society until next time, keep your eyes open, trust your gut, and never stop asking what else might be out there? And see you in the woods.