Central Tennessee under Siege by Sasquatch

0:11 My dad was a matter of fact that you gotta show me. I never saw him scared of anything, he said. He screamed at my mom, get in the car now, and he said, Roger, as it was running, it was uphill to them. As it was running, the footfall when the foot hit the ground, it would kick rocks towards them, and he got in the car. They got in the car and left. All right, big face sad. You've got the privilege of talking with new friends, Sir, Roger Williams today from Tennessee. How's it going today, sir, Going a whole lot better than the last couple of weeks. And it's great to finally get to talk to you. Oh for sure. I've been waiting for this for a while, ever since we first connected. But I know you were under the weather. But we're ready to go. Now.

1:19 How are things down there in Tennessee's Roger, Everything's going good. We've got everything's blooming. So we all say we don't have allergies and we're all sneezing and coughing. But yeah, one of my favorite times of the year. Though. We spend all day today outside and older I get it takes me a little water to recover from that. I can't run with the kids as much anymore, but going pretty good. I can't complain good to hear good to hear it, Roger, let's get right into it. Let's start chatting about your encounter that you had over the last few years. And where does this all start help for you? I'm learning things in reverse. I'm fifty two. I had some things happened how to sighting when I was fourteen, had some things happened before that, but we didn't have any way of researching.

2:25 If you go to the library back then, maybe one or two books and it would have a lot in ness Monster and UFOs and whatever. But I found that just like other people that had sightings, it never leaves you. You may get away from it for a little while, depending on what's going on in your life, but it never it never goes away. My sighting and stuff that's happened is not as dramatic as actually some of my friends that I've just found out recently. But we live in southern Middle Tennessee, and it's actually there's actually a ridge system that runs in a circle from a close to Alabama all the way above Nashville and what I found is there's been a pretty active ridge system for years. But to get back to how this got started, I'll start when the Finding big Foot show was on. I didn't I had no idea that show was on. I was cooking for my son one day and he was about fifteen, and I guess he was watching YouTube and so the how how he played that, and I froze in my tracks. I got got chills. IM like, what are you listening to?

4:01 And he's old. He started explaining that's moneymakers and you show it's the how I suppose it's big Foot, and I was like, I've heard that a half a dozen times. And the difference is hearing it on speaker versus actually live. And you will hear this a lot. You feel it. It goes through you. And I believe at that time, when the most activity was going on, there was a company. There were strip minding for phosphate behind our house and where I hunted, and and I believe it it made this thing mad, and it was mad that it's just it's home was being torn up and that's just my because before it was other things, but not the screaming. And so I remember the first time I I saw one, and and I don't know if there are several. I've talked to people lately. Since started I started sharing my story that are local that it seemed to be more than one in this area. I always hunted I was young.

5:19 We lived out in the country. We didn't stay inside playing video games and just something you didn't do. We didn't have all that stuff, and so I would go out and check the fields for deer while wife I just love being outside. And on one particular day, I stepped out in this field beside our house and I hunted maybe four hundred yards around the bend up there. And I had seen my dad, which he was five eight. I'd seen him walk from that way a lot of times. So I'm looking, there's no there's nothing in the field, and I'm just about to step away, and I noticed movement to my left. I had misremembered, thinking it was about three hundred yards. My son and I went back a few weeks ago, and it's no more than two hundred. But something stepped out on two legs, and at first the first thing I noticed, of course, was the size. And but I had seen the Patty film, and I don't know if It was my young mind. I thought, that's what all that's what bigfoot looks like, that's what all of them looked like or whatever. This one was more. It was more athletic, and I wasn't thinking bigfoot at first. But you have to understand the walkway up this hill

6:53 I had done a lot of times, and the grass was intertwined. They didn't bushog it much, they didn't keep it clean. So it was actually the shortest distance to get back to an alpha fel field that I liked to hunt, but I would go the long way because of that high grass and walking uphill at the same time. And so it turned its shoulders and looked my way, and I think it knew I was there because I had hunted those woods for years. I was fourteen. I've been hunting those woods since I was eight, a lot of times going just walking the creeks by myself and just doing kids stuff, sometimes when my cousins or whatever. But I wasn't scared, I think because of the distance. But I did notice that if you see someone one hundred yards away, two hundred yards away, you can see your hat, your skin, the neckline of your color of your clothes, the wrists here bootline, you know it's a person you know where blue jeans. You may not know who they are. But this name was one color from where I was at, and it was the color of milk chocolate. It wasn't the dark color you hear people, and it wasn't red.

8:11 It was in between. And so I knew I was seeing something strange. But when it started up the hill, there was left no doubt because I knew how I had to walk up the hill and how my body. I had to maneuver my body to get over this grass, throwing my legs out to the side, up and over, and it was a struggle leaning forward. This thing started up the hill, had just a little bit of body lean with the back was more or less straight, but just a little lean. And have you ever seen a walking horse throw its legs up and over how they're doing the shows this There was the motion of this this thing straight up in a over the grass, no struggling. And the time that it took to get from point A to point B, where I would have taken three to five minutes, this was over in twenty to thirty seconds, which is a long time to get to see something move and so I didn't panic, and by the time it got to the top of the hill, my mind's just racing like it wasn't the neighbor, that wasn't my dad.

9:31 And I told my dad about it and he laughs, He said, it's probably Beauford, and Buford was almost ninety years old, and what I had seen had to be one of the best athletes in the world. Going back to that point it, I've had people tell me when I described it that this was probably eighteen or eight teenager as far as big foot goes, because it had wide shoulders, but it was slender at the waist, slend and I always used to send the patty the barrel shape, and so yeah, that happened. And I told my dad, I said, no, I think I just saw I saw a big foot today and he laughed at all.

10:18 And so that was the start of holding it back. And and I think a lot of people I found out just recently in the past three months, since I talked about this for the first time public publicly, I've had people come to me. Some of them don't care. I think if people know their name, and some of them have the jobs that they're scared. Did they get out and they have some amazing stories. One of my friends I went to school with in two thousand and eight, not far from here, I had the top off the jeep the doors off around midnight him and that's why driving and he said, this big foot stepped almost into the jeep and in the path of the jeep and almost they almost hit. Well Eric, he said, he looks up and he can see the big foot flinch.

11:16 Oh, no, I'm almost got hit. So he went to and he's been researching this ever since, and he went to the landowner and he said, Hey, I need to ask you a question. He said, okay, he said, have you ever seen anything strange around here? And his work. The next words out of his mouth is, I've seen the big boy twice and so I haven't got to go to that spot yet, but that's on my list. That is that's incredible. Roger. Oh, the first encounter you share, that's age fourteen, that's your age fourteen.

12:01 Do you mind if I ask a few questions about that. It's really interesting encounters. So you saw it walk up the hill through the gap of the grass in front of you, and then I just kept on walking, kept walking away. Then yeah, what it was dear animals. Let's just say animals. They don't want to be seen, most of them. There was a what I call it choke point up on top of the hill where there was a gate, and so when it stepped out, I don't think it was expecting me to be there. And so it had a decision to make, and it took the shortest distance to get behind some trees. But also that gate never stayed shut. It was it was an old farm gate thatn't vines are grown over. So it walked all the way up and I barely could see it behind those trees and that those sticket, that thicket, But I believe it the direction it was going, that's what it did, because the fence row to its left was honeysuckles, grown up vines. Just took it could have, of course, went through if it wanted to, but it took the path of least resistance and the path that was furtherest away from me. And yeah, it just walked to the It was heading towards the back alfil Ful field that where I had heard the screams. Later and so

13:31 I with some other things that have happened that had happened I started putting things together. There was one day. We don't in the South, we don't get a chance to hunt into snow much, and that's just it. And there was a forecast of some snow on Saturday morning. They were school. It was school year, and I was excited. The guy had all my stuff ready the night before I got up, and going by myself, I was probably this was before the siding. So I'm gonna say twelve to thirteen.

14:13 And I know that sounds strange, but back then in the South, if you were safe. My dad he trusted me and to go do go where I said I was going to go, and do the right thing. Eat a little breakfast, go outside. It's about now two to three inches of snow and it's coming down big flakes. And I'm like, this is amazing. And I go my usual route, which is not too far from the siding. I had later probably one hundred and fifty two hundred yards and when I come out of this it was a logging road and it opened up into the field and in the woods where my tree stands was At the time, they were so dark. It was daylight, but it just had this ominous feel when I stepped out at the edge there and I froze in my tracks and I'm looking around and I'm like, what is this? So I tried to take a step forward with my right foot two or three times and I couldn't. And in my head, I'm like, this is crazy.

15:20 Don't be a wimp. You've got a thirty thirty year You're making this up in your head. I couldn't take another step forward, and my gut just was shaking, my stumble up. My insides was just trembling. And I've always listened to my instincts, and I was becoming scared and something. I don't know why I did this. In my mind, I'm like, if you will let me yo, i will turn to my right, I will walk back home and I won't come back out to day. And as soon as I had that thought, it like I was let go, and the feeling went away. Everything went away, and I turned to my right.

16:07 I did exactly what I said I was going to do, walked in the house. My mom and dad. They knew I'd been excited to go. It's fifteen twenty minutes later, what are you doing? And I'm like, I lied, I didn't want to say anything. I, oh, it's cold out there. I think I'm gonna stay in today, and didn't say anything. I didn't tell anybody that for a long time because I wasn't thinking just that. I was thinking I pumped out. So you don't tell on yourself for that. But now looking back on it, I don't know, and I don't know about I've heard so many ideas on what sasquats could be.

16:51 You have the woo side, the natural side, and I've had a lady tell me that the sasquats told her that there was a bear and they were protecting me. Going back to my teenage years, I had things happened that I couldn't explain that didn't I didn't think much about it. But now there may have been more interactions than I knew. Because we didn't know about tree knocks, we didn't know about the tree breaks, we didn't know about the whistles. You hear all this stuff and you're learning. You're a young hunter. You're hate something's whistling, it's a bird, it's whatever. But now now when we hear something like that, you can tell the difference.

17:45 Sometimes you can't everything and everything's not I'm not one of those people that everything's not a big foot. If I get a new sound on video or whatever, I've got a friend that's former game warden, he's I'll go right to him, Hey, what is this? Do you know what this is? And if he knows, he'll let me know and then I'll go research that on YouTube. You know, Oh, yeah, that's what that is. I'm good to know. I've been lucky enough that I did. My one resource was my friend Dawn that he was a game warden for years around here.

18:26 He'd had reports and so when I don't remember how it came up, but I started telling him about this stuff, he encouraged me and he asked me questions and he didn't make me feel I guess bashful about it because I don't know how it was in all parts of the country, but that you know. I heard somebody the other night say country people are like mountain people. You just don't talk about certain things. And that's was the attitude I heard. They would say things like y'all need to be getting in before day, before dark and all that. But I did understand too some of that was trying to get the kids to this mine and come in. People use that a lot, but so going back, I'm never I don't think I'll ever be like some of the shows for entertainment. Oh that's a squatch or whatever. People that don't haven't been out in the woods. They want things to be a sasquatch or whatever, and it's just not the case. But there have been other things that's happened my mom and dad. My dad had shut me down pretty quick when I told him that story, and it was about no more than two years later. They were out Southern folks back in

19:57 the day, not much population. They'd get out and they drink a beer too, listen to music or whatever, and just relax or whatever in the dirt roads and never bothered anybody because the houses were so far in between. One night he got out to relieve himself and I think my mom might have too, and there was a bank I think he was told about twelve foot I and then they had a four foot fence and had the car running the brake lights were they were shining. The headlights were shining another way, and he heard a tree snap a pretty good side of the sapling. He'd been out in the woods his whole life, so immediately he knew it had to be something big. A horse could rub up us against something, or a cow whatever, but he said it was different. It was just it was a just like a snap, like it was just put just snapped over, just instant break. And the next thing that happened he heard it take off running and it sounded like it was on two legs, jumped the fence, landed in the road behind them. He didn't know how far back it was.

21:11 It was too close, he said. And when it landed in the road, and she said, it was boom, and he felt it. And my dad was a matter of fact that you gotta show me. I never saw him scared of anything, he said. He screamed at my mom, get in the car now, and he said, Roger, as it was running, it was up hill to them. As it was running, the footfall when the foot hit the ground, it would kick rocks towards them, and he got in the car. They got in the car and left.

21:51 So this place is called Simmon's Ridge Road. And I just recently asked. We were driving through during the day and I saw some of the people that lived have been living every for years. And now I'm not as self conscious about it, so I throw it into a conversation, right, I'm like, hey, you ever seen a big foot? And not all that some of them gonna look at you like you're dumb. Yeah, every now and then you get the answer was no, but my brother said he saw one in the field back there. Right, So we drive up the road and this is the road that my mom and dad had the experience on. So we see my wife's cousins. I never met him before. She's supportive, and she's hurt some things, and she's starting to believe I never had met her cousin before, and I just did the same thing, Hey, you ever seen a big foot? And he his demeanor changed. He said no, but I think I've heard one a couple of times just over this ridge. And she looks at me like that's amazing. When we're talking about as a crow flies not three miles from my first sighting. Right, You've got all these ridges that interconnect, and any animals use those for quick getaways.

23:18 They will run a ridge and if that, if something spooks them, a deer, it'll take a let they know where they're at. They know get their getaway there of avoid people and whatever predators. So these I think these rich systems they're using them or that. I don't know if they still are, because after the after they tore the terrain up when I was fourteen, the screams and the activity slowed way down. It's almost I guess nothing, because after the last few screams I heard and felt they were finishing up.

24:00 And you got to understand, we take it don't sound like much to somebody in Wyoming, but here you take a couple of thousand acres and clear it. You've taken away their travel or any animal, their travel where they can stay it. It was pretty thick back there, and they turned them into just fields. But for the stories that I've heard talking to people, I think they didn't move to too far. I think maybe north a little bit along the there's a Duck River with rocks and outcroppings. My wife's family they have about about one hundred and thirty acres up there. It's about twenty miles from here, and we've recently had had active So from fourteen or fifteen we moved to an area not far from semond Ridge. But I didn't have anything happen at that location. It was always in the back of my mind.

25:12 There was only one instant that I heard a tree snap with my cousin, I had killed a deer. We had to track it. It got dark on us and there was no There were no cows. There shouldn't have been anybody out there in the dark, way out where we were, And I always thought it could have been a mountainin but now going back and thinking of how it actually sounded, it would have had to have been a very two hundred pound something stepping on a green fall tree fall, and now it makes more sense that it was maybe a snap, But but I don't know that. I'm not gonna say that's what it was. But when all these years I didn't forget about it, but didn't I didn't go looking for this to start with, so I wasn't. The only time I ever looked for tracks was when they did finish up the fields and they had moved all the dirt out, and I'm like, you know what this is where this thing walked up through here, and if it's something this big in the wood, it's gonna leave track. So I did go when that was fresh, and that's I think that's the only time I really looked for tracks, and I didn't find Anny. Okay. We fast forward and probably three years ago, my son he has some family in the south end of the even further south than here, and we're not we're we're are twenty five minutes from the Alabama

26:45 border, so we're and I've heard a lot of stuff come out of North Alabama, northeast, especially in the hills. He was I had hunting in years, and he was like, Dad, my uncle's gonna let us hunt. And he said, you could come to Okay, And it was more or less I went as just to have an experience with him, and I said, look, I won't I'll carry something a rifle with me. I won't be hunting. I'll just be there and we'll we'll carr walkes with us. And so we had to. It was two weeks before the season, and I'm like, do you know anything about the place? He said not, really, said we need to go scout a little bit, and big Foot's the farthest thing from my mind. We go up there, we find the water sources, we find the um, the food, we find the fences, the holes in the fences where they travel and we're just having a big time walk in and we're not being that quiet because we're just scouting.

27:51 And we get to a particular point and I see a tree about five and a half foot up and it's a hard wood it because when whatever snapped it, its splintered and just like a high pressure snap. Being me and I've always taught him the question and look for the answers, don't assume. So I'm looking around and I don't see anything that fell on it. I don't see anything at that time. The top was still there, attached, and I'm looking around. I'm like, you know what I'm thinking. I'm thinking to myself. I'm like, I've seen some of these shows that say this is a marker, could be a marker, and don't go past it.

28:40 Whatever. Maybe it was less trow than those guys, but I really I wasn't thinking bigfoot. But it was odd, very odd, and no reason for it. Okay, So I had my phone in my pocket, my shirt pocket. I stepped past this tree and this all happened at the same time, so Sirie, but I'm scared to say it. She might wake up here on my phone triggered and my voice is the only thing is supposed to trigger that. And Siri said I don't quite understand, and I look down in my pocket and I grabbed the phone. Because I'm grabbing the phone about the side of you double fist. A rock comes over the cedar, up the hill, over the cedar ticket they're not very high and lands I'm going to say, twelve to fifteen yards from us, bounces down and I hear it. To my right, my son's looking at it. I hear it. I look up, I see the rock slowing down and but there.

29:51 It was so much to take in all of a sudden. Now I've got my son out here and we just had a rock thrown at us, and there's nobody out there, and you really something that think throws rock cast have a thumb or two cast out of a hand. So I didn't rap right away what I was doing. I was thinking, what is our best action here? Because any wild animal, you don't want to run, You don't want to trigger a response to get attacked or whatever. So I'm thinking, what's the best thing we need to do with my son. He's so funny. The first thing out of his mouth, he said, are we just going to ignore that we had a rock tossed to us? Let No, I Hayden, just calm down, just hold on. I'm trying to I'm trying to figure out what we need to do. I said, So here's what we need to do. We need to walk down the hill backwards, so we're facing whatever this is and don't look up in there. Let's get away and we'll talk about this. And so we went back to the truck and we're like, what is typen? And so we started talking about the marker. I said, the tree. It was right there at the tree. And he said, what was up with Sirie? I said, I that's never happened before. So my question hearing people talk about infrasound and all this could infrasound trigger Sirie because I've had that feeling. I've seen people

31:26 like where they go with the with the line and then measure their infrasound and they're like, oh, do you feel anything, and their jittery and whatever, and so that's my first question was like, neither one of us said a word, so that's not supposed to happen. Segment all, we got the marker and then we got the rock tossing the Sirie by itself wouldn't have been a big deal. The tree by itself wouldn't have been a big deal, but put together with the rock toss, it became very fig deal. And we scared me because but we didn't feel threatened though. That's what we talked about. We didn't feel threatened. We talked about should we go back, and we did. We went in before daylight. We had put him up a stand in a few days after that where our hunt. It's not two hundred to two hundred and fifty yards from that spot where he hunts is over over the ridge. It's not one hundred and fifty yards. And like I said, we've never felt threatened there, and there have been times.

32:38 Um one morning I was there had and the breeze was blowing. It was from up the hill. I don't know what direction actually that is. You pay attention to it as a hunter. Okay, we got the breeze coming this way. I knew that Tayton was good and that I would good anything up the hill. And I'm sitting there. I've been sitting there for forty five minutes. It hasn't start breaking daylight yet, but it's getting close. So there, so fresh air, nice morning. I'm close to the spring water source and I'm actually sitting blind on the ground, which I don't like doing that, but I was backed up into a bank with some trees and stuff, so I felt like I had that spot covered keep something from walking up on me. I get a whiff of the only thing. I yea.

33:44 It did smell like a wet dog, but it had a an like death decay. No, let's decay, wet dog with decay, right, and I perked up. It's behind me, and that's where the wind was blowing. It's just a light breeze, maybe three seconds. It was quick. But here's the thing. You know, I've smelt dead animals, and but when if you do and the wind blowing to you, you're gonna keep smelling it. Right. So I'm like, this thing is moving, whatever this is, it's moving. And I got on Milwaukee and I'm like, Peyton, I'm not trying to scare you. We've got something coming in between us that stinks like something I've never actually smelled before, and it's moving.

34:40 I think it's coming to you. He never got a whiff of it, which is even more strange. And we have smelt this on more than one occasion, and he's got a whiff of it a couple of times, but we've never felt threatened. And he's had some strange things, some sounds. He was by hisself one day and I got a text. I'll check up on him quite a bit because it's in I'm going nowhere and he's twenty five, so he can take but you just don't. It's not smart to hunt by yourself. But as long as he checks up with me ever so often.

35:21 And I said, let me know when you're leaving and all that. He said, Daddy, I just heard what sounded like a monkey. He said. It was the build up who and then yet kind of a yell. He said, it wasn't a scream, and it was the direction it came from was over the same direction as the marker and the rock through, but even further over on the other side of the hill. And he said, at first I thought it was a boy, he said, but on the beginning of it, but as it followed through with it, he said it wasn't. And he's in a little bit of his background. He's always loved animals. If you have a question about an animal, I don't care if it's in Australia. He grew up watching Steve Irwin. He the teachers loved him because they could ask him about this rare bird in Mexico and he was like, oh yeah, that's that was his thing. So he's not inexperienced as far as things like you know, and he's really level headed.

36:29 He's the first thing we do is we question what could this be? First? Always, and you'll find answer a lot of times. That's why I'm saying not everything's as quiet. I really like the way he approaches things and went but when he tells me something, I believe him because because it's between us, it's no sensational look, it's just, hey, daddy, we might need to keep an eye on this or whatever. We've had strange things happen and we've been there. We went back last year and it was dry.

37:10 That's the first thing we knew it was drying our county. But that's the first thing I noticed. The spring was almost nothing. The ponds were dry. It had a totally different feel the whole area. Did We didn't hear anything, We didn't see anything, and we've been several times where we didn't. But last hunting season. After that, he's walking his ridge up to his tree stand and I go to my spot and we don't text each other because it lights up, right, I got a text. So when I got a text, I'm like, oh, And it's really a miracle that I actually got the text because of the signal was like a signal back in there and as the pictures coming through, and it took a while, and when it finally came through, I don't know. You may have seen the picture in the one of the groups on Facebook, but it's the thorn tree. It really hard, really tough, no scuffs on it and something it looks something and taken like this and broke it down. And there was probably one hundred and fifty two hundred of those in this on this ridge and it used to be a field and it has grown up now. And he saw it and he snapped the picture of we got the flash and he like, wh what the hell is this? And so after our hunts over with, he takes me up there and that's the first thing we do. We look around it. We look maybe seph a tractor, maybe I've done had made that damage. I didn't think so because of the way it was done.

38:45 All of the thorns, some of the thorns are three inches long. All of those branches and thorns are intact. So if a truck runs over something like that, they're gonna knock some of those off. If a bull rubs up against it, going to knock some of those off. Everything was in tight except that ford, and it was and so have you ever when we were kids, when we'd have we'd be out, we didn't have a lot of toys. We'd be outside all the time. He's seven or eight years old. We would go and pick a sapling, climb up it a little bit, and it's not going to support your weight. So you would write it down right exactly. Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about.

39:30 When one of those breaks, i'll call it a soft break, it'll bend, it'll put pressure, you know, and give it'll give way, and it'll split, but it may split in a bunch of different places or whatever. And you can tell that the pressure was from up in the tree. And then somebody wrote it down, well, these what's strange about these particular trees being a harder wood and it looke like something just snapped it right there at that point. If you take let's say I may have one here. I know this is crazy. I don't know if anybody can see this or whatever, but I've got a number two pencil. If I take and break this thing like this, it's bending and it's gonna break somewhere in here.

40:17 But if I push pressure right there, but I know where it's gonna break, it's gonna break right there. And that's a high pressure break. So that's the difference in something that a softer would that. So anyway, and I'm no expert. I've just been in the wood and you know it, and I'm always open to somebody educating me. I noticed things like that, and if I can't explain it, I'll keep trying. But some of these I can't other And I don't know if you've heard Mike Blueler, I haven't know. Okay, he's I help co hosts with him on Red Creek Mafia on you To. And I heard his story on Cliff and Bobo podcast coming home from work right and it there were some things he said that made me realize. Okay. One thing he was talking about was the size of the form. He had a really close encounter lasted a while, but the size of the forms and the fingers looked like bananas the size of bananas.

41:28 And I'm driving home and I'm like, if that's the case, then what I thought was a tough tree break for something might not be as hard as what I thought. So I contacted him through email and I can I talk to you because this stuff started happening. I started, I started, there's podcast now, of course, and he was nice enough to answer back, and we hit it off and I asked him all kinds of questions like what did this look like? What did that look like? And we've learned something.

42:10 We've learned a lot of stuff in the last three months because of the guests. Let's come home. Because I told my story or one of my stories, I had a friend contact me on messenger on Facebook and said, hey, Roger, you remember when my brother and I lives Verona, Caney Creek whatever, And I'm like, yeah, he said, we walked up on one. They were like twelve, He said, we walked up on one. He's the farmer had said keep an eye out because something was stealing his calves. And he said when they fished the creek down there, they would walk through and they heard some of the calves bawling and making noise.

42:54 And so they walked over there, and he's got his brother with him, younger brother, a couple of years younger. And he said, he said, my mind could make sense of it at first, but it was a big foot and he had a calf by the leg, dragging it through a fence. And when it saw us, he said, it looked irritated that we had seen him. And he let the calf go, turned and walked off, and turned and looked at him and did a huff, you know, And he said, I saw his teeth. He said, close enough, twenty yards. He saw his teeth, and he stepped over the four strand of barbar just stepped right over it and walked across this field. And I was just I'm floored. I talked to him for two hours. I'm like, Kevin, how how come? He said, I didn't know.

43:45 Everybody was laughed at me. I'm glad you finally you told your stories. I don't feel as crazy now, but I know what I saw, and nobody ever tell me. Wow. And this was something that he had a thirty second to a minute. It psyching and up close and personal. And that see, I'm not the bravest person in the world. So that two hundred yard cushion that I had, even though I was probably wrong, I felt like I could get to the back door quick, quicker than he could get me, which that's how kids think. But twenty yards fifteen twenty yards, I don't know if I would make it through that part wire, but it just it just confirms there there are people around this country that might listen to this. It's okay. Now, I don't know if the shows the negative if you say something about bigfoot. I mean, I've got the odor and in the everywhere. Yeah right, it's everywhere. I've got stuff people give me. I told this story, and I thought the other gonna thing nuts. Somebody went to Branson, Missouri and brought me back this posters that's got a sasquat steamed park there. I didn't know that, yeah exactly.

45:08 And so now but here's the problem. The problem now you run into which is a little bit before. I didn't go looking for this. We do go out now, and I've got a couple of situations where I've slowed down a little bit. But there are people that want to have an experience so bad that every every leaf, ever twig break, every the other night. Yep, I know exactly what you're talking about, Roger. Yeah, and you don't want to. I'm sitting there telling y'all saw a big foot, so I can't tell another person they didn't, right, I'm not gonna do that. I'm gonna listen to you. Now, if you showed me pictures and you've been faking some stuff, I'm not gonna hurt your feelings. But I'm just gonna oh, oh yeah, that's cool. But if it's if it looks legit, I'm going to pick your brain. Hey, can you take me out there? Yeah? So, but I think I can.

46:14 My best meter is pretty pretty good. Yeah. Now, there's some will get past you, but that's okay. But I think some of them want an experience so bad they'll they'll see pictures, they'll find things the paradoia, thandel and but I can't say anything about that. I've got I had a couple of things happened to me where my son sir, he's what is this and he circled it and I'm like, oh my god, and it and I've got a picture I'll send you later. I had a tree fall. We had a gift in spot. We tried this we heard these other people. So we had some activity. We have some strange sounds, strange smells, sounds for footfalls, like it come out one of the large rocks and boomed like a six hundred pound cow but two feet. A lot of strange things was happening at this one location, and we would go out there at night. I used to sit outside the truck. Now I sit inside the truck. I don't. But we went back one day and we gifted.

47:22 We put some some fruit and stuff out there, well meant, my son and I we were out there, and I've got it on audio on the video, but it's hard and I'm embarrassed because it scared me so bad that I said some very old blue words. It just came out, and I'm like, I didn't even realize it didn'tuntil we replayed it. And what happened. We went in, we found the spot or we'd had all the strange stuff that the smells and stuff at night. So we went in during the day and it's on some family land. We had a bag of fruit and we had a rake with me to what I was wanting to do is put out some stuff and then rake all the leaves up and clear in case something stepped in to get it. Then I would maybe get a footprint or something like that. And as soon as we walked in, not only did we hear stuff, but we could hear stuff before we heard stuff, Like we heard it sounded like a log was thrown, like a log that had been down for a few months. A log was thrown, and it was thrown so hard. And there's these big rocks. It's close to that river I was talking about, so a lot of the top souls gone. And it sounded like it was thrown against one of those rocks and it broke, and it didn't sound like it was green. It was it'd been there a while.

48:50 But the thing was we were so close we had heard it pick it up and pick up like you pick up one end and drag it too. You oh wow. And you can hear me in the video. I'm up. Wait. So before all these sounds, these big sounds, we could hear the other movement. And then we get the high pressure tree snaps just cracked, and we're talking fifty to sixty yards through the woods and just out of sight. All this stuff that's happened here has just been out of sight tree has been I'm gonna say, I hate to even say pushed over, but what are the odds of these trees falling? And I had one, I've got it on video where I went back by myself a couple of days later to check the fruit and this tree that had been broken and suspended there it decided to fall while I was videoing fall the rest of the way, and that's where I get the I hate to say this, the cloaking look figure in the picture. I didn't see it while I was there, so but something and my son and everybody's looked at this video is like it almost look like it was pulled down, like being up over here. And then this back end responded to it. So anyway, the day, the couple days before we had all this activity we had it sounded like a maybe a thirty pound boulder toss. Like I said, it's about fifty yards away and

50:23 all this noise. It sounded like something was irritated that we were there. But the final thing, so close to the final thing that scared me was a series of sounds where I heard it. I heard something pick up something like a tree that had fallen or something, and then the best way I can explain it after listening to it fifty times, is it sound like it picked it up or heard that. And you know how some of the tennis players grunt when they hit the tenant or when they exert a lot of energy, or I don't know if baseball players do it, but maybe somebody with an axe. They're putting everything they've got into it. And you hear that when I hear the right as the tree or whatever was hit another piece of wood and it broke, there was a huff so loud and so big that I can just imagine the nostrils just being massive, and it was so deep, and that's when the cuss words come out. And I'm like, oh, we may be in trouble. And here I am thinking, you eat it. You've got your son out here and you know, walked up in the middle of something and you may not be able to get out of it.

51:45 That's how big this thing sounded. What's interesting is, of course the video doesn't do it just this as far as the volume. But everybody we've shown this video and they put the headphones in and they listen to it. So here's what we get that sounds like a line that sounds like a beard, that sounds like all these huge mammals right southern Middle ten Z. We don't have lines. We don't have I don't know if a bear can make that sound. They're taught that when they hear it, they know it's something big and it's not a horse. A horse. You hear a horse, you know what a horse sounds like. Right? This thing expelled so much air while it was exerting this pressure or this energy that I could almost see the nostrils in my It had to be huge, and it had to be big to make the noises. And we had a final tree break. But what we did, it did It scared me. Um. It scared me so bad that we didn't go back for a while. But I said, in my head, oh, I told my son union seeing the video, I said, Okay, clear your mind, and I said, we're not here to hurt you. We're not here. We're just curious and we don't want to be hurt either. We're just Yes. I didn't know if that was the right thing, but I felt like it's something I need to do, and when I did it, I don't know if it's endorphins or one It was, but I got this you for it feeling. So I'm being

53:16 cool and calm, trying to be and I said, Titan, what are you feeling right now? And he said, the whole field of the woods just changed. Now. I don't know if it's power suggestion. I don't know if that made us feel better. It could be. But what we went through from fifteen minutes and that ending on that, I knew we would, we'd tick something off. I knew it. I knew this thing is not good. And we took a break. He hadn't been back. He has not been back. He's not a small guy. He can take care of himself. And he said, I'm not going back there. I did the next day or I keep saying that a couple of days later, and that's when the tree was either pulled down and fell down. And I don't know. I can't explain a lot of this stuff talking. It is good to talk to people and get their opinion to what it might be. No, if you when you get that good feeling, something wrong. I'm fifty two years old, I've done some stupid stuff. I've got scars, I broke bones, and just before that happened, and you get this feeling like, oh, I did it again. Some of this is we started having these interactions and I think we got a little over zealous, and we're not We're trying to figure out some things, and I just don't want to get

54:50 hurting the process. I don't want to get him hurting the process or anybody. And there's so much. There's so much that's happened. Wife is with me one night at the same area and over to our right, she's on the way apart. The left side is where this area is, and she can hear and see on this right side. It was dark, good and quiet, and she said, what is that? What? And she said, up in that tree and just across the drive back in there there's some trees and saplings, a few cedars, and there was a light. It wasn't like it wasn't fluorescent, it wasn't led or anything that bright. It was more of a like a moon, a moon like when it's not a it's bright. It's not a full moon, just have for crescent order.

55:53 So I'm looking at it and that's the first thing I think, what's the moon? She said, no, it's because it's over there. Okay, So we're looking and it's not pulsating. It's not, but it does get gradually bigger. That's about the size of just not quite side of the tennis ball when I first see it. And it's not perfectly around either. And we keep watching this one from fifteen or twenty minutes. This is the same area. I have. People say, well, that comes along with the big Foot, and we watch it. And I backed the truck up to get different views of it. And I said, how far you think that up in the tree there? She said, I don't know how to tell us. So do you know how how basketball goal is? She said, oh yeah. I said, do you think that's in which it was?

56:42 Do you think that's about the same height? She said, yeah it is. I said, so it's not a person with a light. We're ruling that out. It got bigger and it was misshaping, and then it come back gradually any minutes, and I would move forward and backward to get better looks at it, and it just faded out. We don't know what that was. It shouldn't be there. I went a few days later, going behind during the day and look to see if there's any trail, couns, any light, sources, any any place where something like that could be hung up there, and it's not. There's no place, there's no tracks, the leaves, there's no disturbances. So no, it wasn't something somebody put up there, is what I'm saying. And that's that in itself is just strange. But and then you pair it with this other activity that we've had and we just don't know. We were out and we've been married a little over three years, we've been together forward. So she's she's so good.

57:52 When we first met, let's say, skin Walker Ranch, some some of the big Foot shows, some of the YouTube stuff, I'm like, she's gonna think I'm crazy, But she didn't wearing a due Boy woman two years ago in April that, Yeah, it was two years ago, and we'll go back. I think it was Tory Lake. We went to Cowboy Cafe, we got something to eat, and we had enough time to go back and here I had actually looked it up as a place you could drive back and just beautiful. Nobody back there, and I had a video going and I made the comment being stupid, just being extra country. I don't know if y'all know this or not, boys, but this is. It's a Yeddi country right here. And I was gonna send it back to my buddies and show them just how it's hard to describe how beautiful this was and how far back and the river, and I expect to see if grizzly or mount lying any second, and whatever bears they have. We go to the back.

59:00 We go nine miles back in and we turn around. We got the windows. Now we're coming back out and I'm barely going. We're looking at everything. We're in awe and to on her side of the truck, there's an ahaw how Now it's not like it didn't have the volume that that I had heard before. And when you get in those mountains, that mountain may look like it's a mile away, it could be ten. So I actually thought it was somebody messing with us. But then when you think about it, there were no vehicles. It might have been a hiker, right.

59:45 But she looked at me and she said, she said, did you just hear that? Only? Yeah, I actually did. What do you think it was? She said? All I know, I've been watching too many of those damn shows. Where was this again, Roger? This wasn't the boys? Women oh okay, wow, yeah, and it was I had talked to Don, my game one friend. He's now Roger. Don't write it off because it could have been a smaller one and it could have been two miles away. And I'm like, we're right. But like I said that, my first instinct is to explain things away. And because it didn't have the volume that the one I had heard several times, I just thought, maybe hopefully it was somebody, because this stuff scares me a little bit.

1:00:36 I'm not going to be out in a tent. I talked to a guy I got a new job. There was a guy. One was from Minnesota and the other guy we're in training, and the other ones from California. And I didn't bring anything up. I noticed the one guy had a Sasquatch hat on. He was from Wisconsin, and the guy from California said, oh, you believe in sasquats. He said, oh yeah, we found a track away in the snow one time that was just unbelievable. And of course here I go. My head's turning, and this guy said, I want to walk into my camp one night up close to the Sarah Nevada's. He started naming Claquemus River and Humboldt County and all this stuff, and I'm and I just keep laying. I said, Hi, nice to meet you. My names because I knew I could talk to these guys or just learned. And that's some amazing stories. He said he didn't see it because he scared him. He stayed in the tent, but I guess he had moonlight and maybe smells and sounds and all of his friends, he said, had experiences back in the day. So it's been a it's been a whirlwind.

1:01:53 Jeremiah once I told my story the amount of stories that I have now, and I'm telling you there are some people that I don't know, but there are some that I've known them all my life and and some of them haven't watched the TV shows or listen to the podcast. There's one, the one I said, I can't say a name, so he sends me a message a messenger after that first show. I did thank you for explaining things the way you did, because now what happened to me made sense. But I can't let it get out because of my job. I'm like, can you call me? So we talked on the phone for a while. He said, he was on his porch and this is not far from me.

1:02:49 This is actually close to some activity that's meant going on for since of seventies. This is Saint Mary ten miles circle right. He said it out on his porch one night, rural area. His dog was there out there. He said it sounded. He said he heard a scream and it sounded like a mixture between a woman and an elephant. It's where he in his mind. And he said, his dog, Pete on the porch, ran to the door, and he was trying to get into the door, and the dog was trying to get into the door. He said, he almost pete the porch too, and he and he wondering what it was. He said, but here he's the thing. He said, when you said you felt that scream, I felt it too. And he said, and you and it made sense when you said it. I said, let me ask you some questions. I said, do you watch big foot shows? No?

1:03:53 You listen to podcasts? No? I don't. He said, I don't know any of this stuff. I don't know. He said, but when you said this or that, it made sense, so I kept listening. Then he said, two weeks later it was opening a gun season, dear season here, and they've got a little money, and so there where I might have him being a tree stander in a fold out seat Ozart Trail from Mamart. They've got these nice houses with COMPLEXI glass and it's almost too nice. And I know exactly when he's talking about. And he said, he said, get my four wheeler back there and hide it, and then I'd walk across the field forty five minutes before daylight, he said. And this was two weeks after I heard that sound. He said, I go in, I get inside. I locked the door, a little flimsy door, but it locked, and he said, there's a hickory tree on his dad.

1:04:55 I don't forget too much away. His dad taught me how to smoke meet. We did it the old way, back and back the end, and so they always had a lot of hickory cut and had huge smokers. And he said, there's this one hickory tree. He said, I always look at it get daylight and I said, I, oh, my daddy, don't cut that down. This is it's an awesome tree. He said. I'm sitting there. He said, it's about thirty minutes or so before daylight, and I hear some grunting and growling and huffing, and he sounded like he said, it sounded like something very large was upset. He said. It wasn't a bull, it wasn't a cow. It had this this, he said, I just knew it wasn't about it. He said that it was massive, he said, And it was in the fence room, and it was close to the hickory trees near as I could tell, he said. So he was so scared that he took his chair and put it up against the door. He said, what I figured was it was dark, and I didn't. He said, if it came in on me, whatever it was, I would fill the door moving and then I could maybe get shot off or whatever. He said. I was scared to death, he said. Fifteen minutes before daylight, he still hearing some of the noises and not as much, but it was maybe letting him know that it was still there. And then he heard a loud crash snap and didn't know what it was, and heard another noise, and then after that it went quiet.

1:06:31 So I was getting close to them. Daylight is getting close to sun, right, So he said, he didn't know what to do. He said he was going to get to a foil as quick as possible, but he wanted to get all the way daylight, and he wanted to make sure whatever it wasn't in there. And he said when he got where he could see, he said, there's a branch, a big branch about ten foot up. He said it was broken fresh snap. You know how bright fresh wood is. And he's and so his first instinct was like, I wonder when that happened. And then he and he had just walked from his at an angle from his four wheeler to this thing through the field and he looks over. He's at twenty yards out in the field. That branch is thrown out into the field. And he said, Roger, that was five years ago, and I haven't been hunting since, and I'm not going back.

1:07:26 So how do you how do you explain once again, for something to break something like that, it has to have thumbs and it has to be big. I feel like I'm just I feel like I'm gushing here, but I've been inundated with stories over the past I was three three months maybe, and he got to the point where it felt like I was filling up, and I do want to listen, and I would say, you share with your podcast on Twitter or somewhere, and I'll be like, I gotta listen to that. I'm gonna share it, so I'll go back and listen to it. But there was a point where even I had to take a break with Mike helping co host that show because there was so much information and I'm trying to filter through what could be real and what's not. And I got full.

1:08:20 I got I got just weighed down with it, and then I got sick and I got the rest. I got to It's a bad way to get the rest, but I slept a lot, and after I got over that, I'm refreshed. And I think I'll give some people advice is getting into this, go to pace, Go to your own pace, and don't try to get too much because there are a lot of theories and then there are a lot of people that are or this and they all get upset if you disagree with them, and some of it is so unreal. But like I said, I'm on a podcast with Jeremiah and I'm telling about this stuff.

1:09:14 And I have even talked about the ghosts and the orbs and all this stuff that I've seen in the past, and it makes me. That's why it makes me think that some of it may be tied together and it maybe some of us are without trying more open things happening. I don't know. Here's the theory I have now. The scientists guys, I get them. But there's some people that you think about this. I don't know if and people that are listening think about that. There are people that mean no harm.

1:09:56 If there is a big foot, they don't want it to be killed, They don't want it to any harm. They just want understand a lot of those people seem to have experiences where you have I know, people that are mean and would shoot one at a heartbeat, and they hardly ever have any of those experiences. So if they can communicate or know your feelings or know your thoughts or whatever, then they would stay away from that person, I would think. And those are the people are like, oh, you're full of it and fire saw one. I would they tell it? They think they would anyway. But I've even Mike's encountered he had the safety off, the crosshairs on his nose and was scared, and he said he was about to pull the trigger and there was too much emotion and more human.

1:10:47 He said it it turned his head sideways. You better don't do it. Don't do it, and he said, and this Mike's former military and he was scared. And he said, I felt like if I pulled that trigger, I would partially be killing a human. And then he said, and I partially was scared that if I decided to pull the trigger, I might not make it out of the woods. So what he struggles with it, but he's a good guy. He's trying to he's doing his show and he's trying to get people on so he can understand. And I think that's I think that's where a lot of us come from, as we have had experiences and we start digging. Like the guy in the jeep. His son told me, he said, ever since that happened to them, he's been everything.

1:11:41 He can watch, everything, he can read. He talks about it all the time. And it's not driving him crazy. It's just he wants to understand, you know how. We have questions like one of the one of the question main questions I have. It's not paring almost not. It's like how do they take in enough protein? Be a lot of critters in one area to support those guys. Yeah, it's wild. Yeah, and so they almost have to be what omnivores exactly. And then you get some people talk about the whoo part of it where they're energy and they can come through portals and who knows. It's a lot. It's a lot to take in. It's a lot. And you're smart in what you said earlier where it's like, there's so much excuse me, there's so much in this field right now that you have to pace yourself and you it is okay to step away for a bit if you find yourself being overwhelmed that it's this smart thing to do. It's not smart when you're not aware that needs to be done.

1:12:57 But I do have a few questions for that come up. While you've been talking the different the different situations you've had, have you noticed that these have all taken place in one county except for the woman the Yes, there's one that's close to another county, depending on what hell you're on. But yeah, the Marshall County, Tennessee. I'll go ahead and say it because I've got five or six people right now that I'm in contact with. How they're probably a dozen't that's actually told me, But there's about half a dozen that we communicate about things that have happened in the past, and and we talk about people that we all we've all known that things have happened to and then you will forget things. I have a very good friend. We used to hang around him. He's lot older than me. Now he's one of those macho guys. He's not gonna say anything to make himself look bad or crazy. His dad has passed away, but he I would believe anything to come out of his mouth. It's just because the type of person he was.

1:14:17 And he wasn't kin to me, but he gave me advice. He was just no frills country guy that had great listening skills. He would listen to you if he thought he needed to say something, he would if he he wouldn't bud into your business. And he was just a good man. And so when Matt told me the story, I was about nine. But then when Eddie, his dad told me, he heard all of it and he saw Matt running and he's never seen him that scared in his life.

1:14:59 He was about thirteen or fourteen. But what happened in that situation mac hunting defence line up behind their house and he had a single shot at twenty gage. He hunted everything with it back then, and he would crawl up, he climb up in this hackberry tree and get out on this limb and sit there. And he said he saw some movement coming along the woods line, which there's a little grass out there in the field. It wasn't a big field. And first thing, any thing, do you're come in turkey something? And he said, and that's another thing. People, there's some people that can't get out, and I understand that, and they want to know things. So this is why I put little tidbits in like this. People that have been out in the woods or been around farm animals, or been around been out even a zookeeper or somebody that studies all that. They can see an animal from a long distance and tell you what it is by the way it's moving, by the it's gaged, by its bouncing, its smoothness, a cat back of being certain ways, the colties of prance a little bit, and they're lighter on their feet than a wolf. And yeah, it's just so you identify things pretty fast. He said. The first thing he noticed was it was something about four and a half to five foot tall, and it was moving, but it was doing this. He said.

1:16:31 The head was side to side and it was hunkered over and he what is that? Because now this guy, he's been around all these animals. First thing he sees it, he don't know what it is, so he's trying to identify. It's getting closer to him. But the wind is coming from behind mac to a certain point up in the woods. This thing is coming around and hasn't got to that point where it could wind him yet, and it's focused on the edge of the woods, he said. Then he gets a good look at it as it gets closer. He said it was four and a half five foot tall. He said it looked like a monkey, and said the hair was clumped, greasy and clumped, and tufts where you could see skin under And he said that's when he got really scared, and so he got his gun up and read. But he wasn't gonna make a noise. He's just gonna let it pass by it and that was his instinct, just to stay still and let it go, he said. When it got he said, I knew the wind was behind me, and I'm thought, oh, no, and he said it got to that point and it threw its nose up in there, sniffed a few times, and he said when it turned and looked, it locked eyes with him, and it showed its teeth. And now back then, I didn't know whether to ask if it had canines or whatever. I'm just listening to the story. So he said it it snarled, and it like it made it mad, and it said it came to him and it was making some noise it is. I don't remember what noises he said it made. But he said, I'm thinking,

1:18:05 can I get down on this tree and get home before this? We're talking forty yards and he made the decision that he couldn't now what happens next. He said he felt bad about it, but he was forced into it, he thought, he said. He pulled the gun up and he put it on the chest and squeezed the trigger and he heard it thump. He said it it started rolling. He grabbed his chest, started screaming and rolling. He said it sounded like a monkey. Now it could have been I don't know what it was. But he got down. He's running now. He's built like me. I'm a bigger guy. One of us running. Don't ask any questions, try to beat us. But so he's running, and he said, he takes a single shot, puts one in it, and throws it over the back and fires recklessly back that way, puts another one in it. Yeah, And so he gets to the fence. He's trying to get his fat tail over the fence, and his daddy's what is going on? He said, I just shot him. Look and he said, you could hear it screaming. Eddie said, I could hear it screaming.

1:19:16 It's just right by in the house. And he said, boy, let's get in the house. And they didn't. They never went up there to see. Now, that's that's not as a crow flies three miles from where I saw mine, But it was a lot bigger. But going back to that sighting, there was a limb that came out. How it came out over the field and drooped down and curved back up. This thing walked when it stopped, it was under this right. So I told my dad, I said, Daddy, it was almost as tall as that limb. I said, it was about six or eight inches under that limb. Top of the head was as that couldn't have been Beautford. He said, there's no way. You know how far up that is. I said, yeah, I do. I saw. We went up there with the tape measure and whatever it was had to be around seven a half foot tall, so we did get a measurement. We were and he was questioning, and he said, but he kept saying, there's no way, there's no way.

1:20:20 And like I said, I've seen him walk and he was five eight ish, and I knew what he looked like up there, and this thing broke him an ass. But anyway, I wished, God, I wished I had known. Maybe I don't, but I wished I had known what to look for. I wished I had known. Like the other night, we had a quiet night. What there wasn't a lot going on. We had some barred owls back and forth. And some people say sometimes they get mimicked by whatever I have. We can do calls like that with a mouth and will sometimes when he gets quiet, we'll start and we'll get them active, just to get something going on. But then you will hear some strange stuff, like a barred out of this on the ground. You know, it doesn't sound exactly like a bird. But I don't know, but there you go. You put all the things that happened together and it makes a little more sense that it could be something like that. But so I did.

1:21:29 I realized that I haven't done anything to get any responses, and I said, hey, so let's go back. So we had frogs making their noises, we had whipper wheel or whatever, a bird it was going nuts. We had some sounds going on and just listening, and then he got quiet, just you know how it happened. Sometimes when a predator comes in, it could be collages, whatever, mountains, whatever to just get quiet. But I wasn't really thinking that. And like I said, I don't know what this was, but I'm like, you know what this big? Good time to I told my wife and said, I'm gonna I'm gonna do three clouds out the window. Let's listen to her hearing. I have to be careful. I can't mumble under my breath because she she can hear birds breaking seeds in her bird feeder. And she's a good one to have with you if you need a warning. But so I did. I did three loud clouds and quit. I didn't hear anything, and she she turned and she said, you just got to clap back over here. I said, wait a minute, hand cloud? She said, yeah, yeah, how many she did was just one? And I don't know. I know, I do know that there's nobody out there. And if she tells me it was

1:23:04 a handcloup, I'm gonna go with her hearing. But after that happened, there was some strange sounds that she couldn't identify. But it wasn't a lot. But we say that's not a lot because we've had so much happened at times that you just get a response back. I don't know what that could be. I don't know what could clap other than a person. But anyway, Yeah, and there's so much more. I don't I could go on. Roger Marshall County is having some things go on, that's for sure. Yeah, I do want to ask real quick. I keep coming back in my mind. We take it was a while back we were talking about how your son was hunting and he heard what he thought was a monkey found in the woods. Have you guys been ever been back to that area? Yes, we I've got a video. I've got that. My YouTube page is not a whole lot on it. Okay, cool, it's not, and we took up. We didn't walk about. Oh wow. And it takes a while because of the ridges, and you know, I'm not an athlete, so we have to take time, and we went behind. This was just I'm gonna say this was two two and a half months ago, because

1:24:36 after I had done I had told my story and it's just a couple of weeks in. I thought it would be fun to get some video and show people where where we were at. So I said, here's what we want to do. I said, First of all, we're not gonna be quiet, because I don't want to slip up on anything. I want everything to know we're here. The second thing, I want to go behind that clump of cedar tree where the rock came from, to see how something could have got gotten away or hid from us, or where it could have been standing. And another thing, I said, where you heard He said it was like a monkey gorilla. He said it was a classic build up and said and whatever. And so I said, we're gonna go back on top of that ridge and we're gonna look over and see what's there. And he's got a you know, I'm fifty two. I don't I'm not totally out of the tech stuff. He draws them. This app up, it does exactly where we're at, who owns what, and where the houses are on X and I'm like, I used that too. It's it is, it is how far something is? Yeah, and who it's and what scary is?

1:25:53 I believe it has the owner's phone number here. It's pretty intense. Yeah, intense. So we Yeah, we did go back there and we looked off the ridge to where it could have been, and as far as we could see, you would see a speck of white here there houses just sparsely through this valley, and then another ridge way over there and just nothing, just nothing, and the behind the cedar trees. I don't see how whatever it was it had to stay put. I don't see how with the terrain and the leaves, and though I think it would have exposed itself. And then maybe that's why through a rockets it was last resort. We were getting close and if we had walked fifteen more yards or twenty more yards, we might have seen something we might not want to do. But so maybe we pressured it to do that, to have that response without knowing so it would have had to it would have a pretty long run up the hill or anybody that was back there, so it didn't have an escape route. So that's what I was telling Peyton. I'm like, we may have pressured it into doing that. And then but once you get up on top of the ridge, you can be and some of these hollows really fast. You know,

1:27:23 you could get some distance between you if it was if it was a person. And especially like deer, we know that we know how they do, so it makes it just makes sense that any animal would use the ridges in the same way. He still goes by himself. Sometimes it's just it worries me, even though I'm confident that he'll do the right thing and he's learning that you don't just shoot first. We had that scary We had that scary thing happened, and when I started, I said, clear your mind.

1:28:11 He actually set his rifle down. I didn't tell him to. He just some reason he set it down and did his hands like this, And I guess we're so in tune. But anyway, he's heard some strange noises and stuff. But like I said, we talked about it and said, I said, have you ever felt threatened? He said no, and Kevin, my buddy that saw the one trying to get the calf. He made a comment it wroung true. Somebody asked him on the show. They're like, or did it keep you from going hunting? Did it keep you from going fishing? Did it scare you? Did it? He said, he's just he's more country than I am. If you can believe that, he said, well, I figured it. If he's there what I saw it, he's always been there and he's never bothered me before. Of course he's saying he because we all think big foot, right, And he said, so, I don't let it bother me because if he wanted to get me, he could have got me that day because I was right there. Sure, So you know that, and that's comforting. Now you get to talk into some of these people with the dog men and stuff like. Then you get on a totally different that saddle up partners when you start in, Yeah, I mean you can go down, you can go far down the road.

1:29:33 Roger, you're aware of that. It's not just big foot. But man, this has been a enjoyable chat. And you guys got some stuff going on down in Marshall County County Tennessee, and I'm definitely gonna be keeping up to date with you. Roger, help, can do you mind sharing a few taking a few messes? How people can keep up to date with what you got going on? Also, if they're like, man, I've got something that happened in Marshall County, Tennessee, how can they get in touch with you? It sounds like they need to let you know. Well, I set up an email like all of us dudes. Yeah, you want to keep it separate from your other your business, but it's squatching Hollard.

1:30:24 That's without a G and that's O L E R. And that's at gmail dot com. I wanted something to be memorable and so that Squatching Hollard could be anywhere. So yeah, if you have anything, I'd be glad to listen. If you're in this area. Even we're not far from Moore County, which is where Jack Daniels is. There there are ridges when you can get on these ridges and go forever, and people like Davy is it Davy Crockett, Yeah, Davy crocket It just over not far from here where he lived on Bean Creek. And there's a lot of history in this area.

1:31:05 And you know a lot of Native American mounds that people really don't know about. Yeah, one of our favorite pastimes when somebody would work the ground up for tobacco or whatever with kids, it would rain and we would go just fill our pockets with our heads, you know. And there's so much history in this area. And I just did not know that there was big Foot history. Yeah, like I said, I've probably I could probably come up with a half a dozen more pretty cool stories. But I know we've been on a while, so he's probably write a pretty good book too. Roger just saying, but hey, I'll just put that out there. But it's been fun chatting with Yeah, I'm I'm gonna be keeping tabs on you, like I said, And I think we'll be chatting some sometime in the future too, maybe because up with you. If I get any video or pictures or anything that I can share it to the Facebook group right or you.

1:32:05 Yeah, whatever I've got anything, I will send you the what people have said. The cloaking, now, it could be it's freaky because I've seen I just had to send it to you. It blew my mind, It blew my son's mind. The game boarding, and I've had people who are on the woo side of it, So I explaining what the energy and all this stuff and how they supposed supposedly cloak. I just all I know is when I saw the picture the screenshot, nobody had seen that yet, and I'm gonna say I freaked out. I just I just like, man, I don't know, I don't know what's going on here, but I'll send that to you and all right, Yeah, I really appreciate you, know, because it helps. And anybody out there, if Jeremiah text you want you to tell your story, don't be bashful. We're all here. We're here for you. It helps, It helps you feel better. And if you're in Marshall County, Tennessee or somewhere else, your friends might not even hear this, but help him out share it. You share the podcast with everybody, because you never know what kind of stories you're going to hear from your friends that they were scared to tell you that. Man, that's great.

1:33:27 Thank you, Roger. I appreciate that. And man, keep doing a good work, And thank you so much for hanging out tonight. Roger. Oh it's been fun. I'm just glad we finally got to do it, but I really appreciate it. It does help. If you'd like to support people Society with a special one time donation, you can head over to our buy me a Coffee page. A link will be in the show notes. We'd like to shout out this week, especially Henry Franzoni and Anonymous both for buying us a few coffees. This be especially helpful on our trip out to Monsterfest next week, as you know that airport food gets kind of pricey.

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