June 2, 2023

Central Tennessee under Siege by Sasquatch

Join host Jeremiah Byron on the latest episode of the Bigfoot Society Podcast as he delves into the captivating world of Bigfoot encounters in Marshall County, Tennessee. This week, Jeremiah welcomes a special guest, Roger Williams, a seasoned...

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Join host Jeremiah Byron on the latest episode of the Bigfoot Society Podcast as he delves into the captivating world of Bigfoot encounters in Marshall County, Tennessee. This week, Jeremiah welcomes a special guest, Roger Williams, a seasoned outdoorsman with a lifetime of astonishing Bigfoot encounters to share.

Prepare to be enthralled as Roger recounts his spine-chilling encounter with the elusive creature at the age of 14. From there, the suspense only grows as he takes us on a riveting journey through his numerous subsequent encounters, including a hair-raising encounter he and his son had while on a hunting trip.

Roger's wealth of knowledge and personal experiences are so extensive that Jeremiah allows him to take the spotlight for over an hour, captivating listeners with his enthralling tales. From heart-pounding near misses to awe-inspiring sightings, Roger's stories will leave you on the edge of your seat, craving more.

Don't miss this thrilling episode, brimming with captivating insights and firsthand accounts of Bigfoot Encounters in Marshall County, Tennessee. Tune in now to the Bigfoot Society Podcast as Jeremiah Byron uncovers the secrets of the mysterious creature alongside the remarkable Roger Williams!

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My dad was a matter of fact
that you gotta show me. I never

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saw him scared of anything, he
said. He screamed at my mom,

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get in the car now, and
he said, Roger, as it was

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running, it was uphill to them. As it was running, the footfall

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when the foot hit the ground,
it would kick rocks towards them, and

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he got in the car. They
got in the car and left. All

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right, big face sad. You've
got the privilege of talking with new friends,

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Sir, Roger Williams today from Tennessee. How's it going today, sir,

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Going a whole lot better than the
last couple of weeks. And it's

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great to finally get to talk to
you. Oh for sure. I've been

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waiting for this for a while,
ever since we first connected. But I

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know you were under the weather.
But we're ready to go. Now.

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How are things down there in Tennessee's
Roger, Everything's going good. We've got

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everything's blooming. So we all say
we don't have allergies and we're all sneezing

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and coughing. But yeah, one
of my favorite times of the year.

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Though. We spend all day today
outside and older I get it takes me

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a little water to recover from that. I can't run with the kids as

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much anymore, but going pretty good. I can't complain good to hear good

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to hear it, Roger, let's
get right into it. Let's start chatting

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about your encounter that you had over
the last few years. And where does

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this all start help for you?
I'm learning things in reverse. I'm fifty

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two. I had some things happened
how to sighting when I was fourteen,

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had some things happened before that,
but we didn't have any way of researching.

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If you go to the library back
then, maybe one or two books

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and it would have a lot in
ness Monster and UFOs and whatever. But

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I found that just like other people
that had sightings, it never leaves you.

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You may get away from it for
a little while, depending on what's

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going on in your life, but
it never it never goes away. My

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sighting and stuff that's happened is not
as dramatic as actually some of my friends

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that I've just found out recently.
But we live in southern Middle Tennessee,

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and it's actually there's actually a ridge
system that runs in a circle from a

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close to Alabama all the way above
Nashville and what I found is there's been

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a pretty active ridge system for years. But to get back to how this

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got started, I'll start when the
Finding big Foot show was on. I

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didn't I had no idea that show
was on. I was cooking for my

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son one day and he was about
fifteen, and I guess he was watching

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YouTube and so the how how he
played that, and I froze in my

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tracks. I got got chills.
IM like, what are you listening to?

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And he's old. He started explaining
that's moneymakers and you show it's the

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how I suppose it's big Foot,
and I was like, I've heard that

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a half a dozen times. And
the difference is hearing it on speaker versus

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actually live. And you will hear
this a lot. You feel it.

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It goes through you. And I
believe at that time, when the most

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activity was going on, there was
a company. There were strip minding for

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phosphate behind our house and where I
hunted, and and I believe it it

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made this thing mad, and it
was mad that it's just it's home was

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being torn up and that's just my
because before it was other things, but

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not the screaming. And so I
remember the first time I I saw one,

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and and I don't know if there
are several. I've talked to people

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lately. Since started I started sharing
my story that are local that it seemed

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to be more than one in this
area. I always hunted I was young.

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We lived out in the country.
We didn't stay inside playing video games

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and just something you didn't do.
We didn't have all that stuff, and

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so I would go out and check
the fields for deer while wife I just

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love being outside. And on one
particular day, I stepped out in this

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field beside our house and I hunted
maybe four hundred yards around the bend up

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there. And I had seen my
dad, which he was five eight.

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I'd seen him walk from that way
a lot of times. So I'm looking,

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there's no there's nothing in the field, and I'm just about to step

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away, and I noticed movement to
my left. I had misremembered, thinking

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it was about three hundred yards.
My son and I went back a few

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weeks ago, and it's no more
than two hundred. But something stepped out

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on two legs, and at first
the first thing I noticed, of course,

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was the size. And but I
had seen the Patty film, and

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I don't know if It was my
young mind. I thought, that's what

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all that's what bigfoot looks like,
that's what all of them looked like or

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whatever. This one was more.
It was more athletic, and I wasn't

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thinking bigfoot at first. But you
have to understand the walkway up this hill

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I had done a lot of times, and the grass was intertwined. They

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didn't bushog it much, they didn't
keep it clean. So it was actually

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the shortest distance to get back to
an alpha fel field that I liked to

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hunt, but I would go the
long way because of that high grass and

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walking uphill at the same time.
And so it turned its shoulders and looked

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my way, and I think it
knew I was there because I had hunted

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those woods for years. I was
fourteen. I've been hunting those woods since

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I was eight, a lot of
times going just walking the creeks by myself

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and just doing kids stuff, sometimes
when my cousins or whatever. But I

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wasn't scared, I think because of
the distance. But I did notice that

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if you see someone one hundred yards
away, two hundred yards away, you

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can see your hat, your skin, the neckline of your color of your

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clothes, the wrists here bootline,
you know it's a person you know where

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blue jeans. You may not know
who they are. But this name was

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one color from where I was at, and it was the color of milk

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chocolate. It wasn't the dark color
you hear people, and it wasn't red.

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It was in between. And so
I knew I was seeing something strange.

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But when it started up the hill, there was left no doubt because

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I knew how I had to walk
up the hill and how my body.

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I had to maneuver my body to
get over this grass, throwing my legs

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out to the side, up and
over, and it was a struggle leaning

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forward. This thing started up the
hill, had just a little bit of

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body lean with the back was more
or less straight, but just a little

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lean. And have you ever seen
a walking horse throw its legs up and

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over how they're doing the shows this
There was the motion of this this thing

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straight up in a over the grass, no struggling. And the time that

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it took to get from point A
to point B, where I would have

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taken three to five minutes, this
was over in twenty to thirty seconds,

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which is a long time to get
to see something move and so I didn't

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panic, and by the time it
got to the top of the hill,

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my mind's just racing like it wasn't
the neighbor, that wasn't my dad.

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And I told my dad about it
and he laughs, He said, it's

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probably Beauford, and Buford was almost
ninety years old, and what I had

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seen had to be one of the
best athletes in the world. Going back

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to that point it, I've had
people tell me when I described it that

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this was probably eighteen or eight teenager
as far as big foot goes, because

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it had wide shoulders, but it
was slender at the waist, slend and

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I always used to send the patty
the barrel shape, and so yeah,

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that happened. And I told my
dad, I said, no, I

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think I just saw I saw a
big foot today and he laughed at all.

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And so that was the start of
holding it back. And and I

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think a lot of people I found
out just recently in the past three months,

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since I talked about this for the
first time public publicly, I've had

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people come to me. Some of
them don't care. I think if people

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know their name, and some of
them have the jobs that they're scared.

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Did they get out and they have
some amazing stories. One of my friends

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I went to school with in two
thousand and eight, not far from here,

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I had the top off the jeep
the doors off around midnight him and

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that's why driving and he said,
this big foot stepped almost into the jeep

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and in the path of the jeep
and almost they almost hit. Well Eric,

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he said, he looks up and
he can see the big foot flinch.

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Oh, no, I'm almost got
hit. So he went to and

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he's been researching this ever since,
and he went to the landowner and he

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said, Hey, I need to
ask you a question. He said,

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okay, he said, have you
ever seen anything strange around here? And

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his work. The next words out
of his mouth is, I've seen the

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big boy twice and so I haven't
got to go to that spot yet,

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but that's on my list. That
is that's incredible. Roger. Oh,

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the first encounter you share, that's
age fourteen, that's your age fourteen.

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Do you mind if I ask a
few questions about that. It's really interesting

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encounters. So you saw it walk
up the hill through the gap of the

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grass in front of you, and
then I just kept on walking, kept

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walking away. Then yeah, what
it was dear animals. Let's just say

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animals. They don't want to be
seen, most of them. There was

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a what I call it choke point
up on top of the hill where there

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was a gate, and so when
it stepped out, I don't think it

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was expecting me to be there.
And so it had a decision to make,

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and it took the shortest distance to
get behind some trees. But also

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that gate never stayed shut. It
was it was an old farm gate thatn't

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vines are grown over. So it
walked all the way up and I barely

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could see it behind those trees and
that those sticket, that thicket, But

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I believe it the direction it was
going, that's what it did, because

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the fence row to its left was
honeysuckles, grown up vines. Just took

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it could have, of course,
went through if it wanted to, but

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it took the path of least resistance
and the path that was furtherest away from

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me. And yeah, it just
walked to the It was heading towards the

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back alfil Ful field that where I
had heard the screams. Later and so

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I with some other things that have
happened that had happened I started putting things

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together. There was one day.
We don't in the South, we don't

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get a chance to hunt into snow
much, and that's just it. And

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there was a forecast of some snow
on Saturday morning. They were school.

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It was school year, and I
was excited. The guy had all my

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stuff ready the night before I got
up, and going by myself, I

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was probably this was before the siding. So I'm gonna say twelve to thirteen.

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And I know that sounds strange,
but back then in the South,

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if you were safe. My dad
he trusted me and to go do go

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where I said I was going to
go, and do the right thing.

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Eat a little breakfast, go outside. It's about now two to three inches

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of snow and it's coming down big
flakes. And I'm like, this is

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amazing. And I go my usual
route, which is not too far from

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the siding. I had later probably
one hundred and fifty two hundred yards and

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when I come out of this it
was a logging road and it opened up

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into the field and in the woods
where my tree stands was At the time,

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they were so dark. It was
daylight, but it just had this

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ominous feel when I stepped out at
the edge there and I froze in my

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tracks and I'm looking around and I'm
like, what is this? So I

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tried to take a step forward with
my right foot two or three times and

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I couldn't. And in my head, I'm like, this is crazy.

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Don't be a wimp. You've got
a thirty thirty year You're making this up

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in your head. I couldn't take
another step forward, and my gut just

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was shaking, my stumble up.
My insides was just trembling. And I've

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always listened to my instincts, and
I was becoming scared and something. I

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don't know why I did this.
In my mind, I'm like, if

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you will let me yo, i
will turn to my right, I will

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walk back home and I won't come
back out to day. And as soon

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as I had that thought, it
like I was let go, and the

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feeling went away. Everything went away, and I turned to my right.

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I did exactly what I said I
was going to do, walked in the

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house. My mom and dad.
They knew I'd been excited to go.

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It's fifteen twenty minutes later, what
are you doing? And I'm like,

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I lied, I didn't want to
say anything. I, oh, it's

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cold out there. I think I'm
gonna stay in today, and didn't say

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anything. I didn't tell anybody that
for a long time because I wasn't thinking

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just that. I was thinking I
pumped out. So you don't tell on

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yourself for that. But now looking
back on it, I don't know,

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and I don't know about I've heard
so many ideas on what sasquats could be.

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You have the woo side, the
natural side, and I've had a

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lady tell me that the sasquats told
her that there was a bear and they

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were protecting me. Going back to
my teenage years, I had things happened

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that I couldn't explain that didn't I
didn't think much about it. But now

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there may have been more interactions than
I knew. Because we didn't know about

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tree knocks, we didn't know about
the tree breaks, we didn't know about

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the whistles. You hear all this
stuff and you're learning. You're a young

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hunter. You're hate something's whistling,
it's a bird, it's whatever. But

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now now when we hear something like
that, you can tell the difference.

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Sometimes you can't everything and everything's not
I'm not one of those people that everything's

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not a big foot. If I
get a new sound on video or whatever,

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I've got a friend that's former game
warden, he's I'll go right to

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him, Hey, what is this? Do you know what this is?

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And if he knows, he'll let
me know and then I'll go research that

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on YouTube. You know, Oh, yeah, that's what that is.

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I'm good to know. I've been
lucky enough that I did. My one

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resource was my friend Dawn that he
was a game warden for years around here.

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He'd had reports and so when I
don't remember how it came up,

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but I started telling him about this
stuff, he encouraged me and he asked

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me questions and he didn't make me
feel I guess bashful about it because I

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don't know how it was in all
parts of the country, but that you

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know. I heard somebody the other
night say country people are like mountain people.

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You just don't talk about certain things. And that's was the attitude I

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heard. They would say things like
y'all need to be getting in before day,

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before dark and all that. But
I did understand too some of that

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was trying to get the kids to
this mine and come in. People use

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that a lot, but so going
back, I'm never I don't think I'll

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ever be like some of the shows
for entertainment. Oh that's a squatch or

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whatever. People that don't haven't been
out in the woods. They want things

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to be a sasquatch or whatever,
and it's just not the case. But

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there have been other things that's happened
my mom and dad. My dad had

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shut me down pretty quick when I
told him that story, and it was

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about no more than two years later. They were out Southern folks back in

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the day, not much population.
They'd get out and they drink a beer

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too, listen to music or whatever, and just relax or whatever in the

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dirt roads and never bothered anybody because
the houses were so far in between.

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One night he got out to relieve
himself and I think my mom might have

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too, and there was a bank
I think he was told about twelve foot

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I and then they had a four
foot fence and had the car running the

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brake lights were they were shining.
The headlights were shining another way, and

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he heard a tree snap a pretty
good side of the sapling. He'd been

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out in the woods his whole life, so immediately he knew it had to

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be something big. A horse could
rub up us against something, or a

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cow whatever, but he said it
was different. It was just it was

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a just like a snap, like
it was just put just snapped over,

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just instant break. And the next
thing that happened he heard it take off

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running and it sounded like it was
on two legs, jumped the fence,

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landed in the road behind them.
He didn't know how far back it was.

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It was too close, he said. And when it landed in the

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road, and she said, it
was boom, and he felt it.

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And my dad was a matter of
fact that you gotta show me. I

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never saw him scared of anything,
he said. He screamed at my mom,

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get in the car now, and
he said, Roger, as it

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was running, it was up hill
to them. As it was running,

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the footfall when the foot hit the
ground, it would kick rocks towards them,

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and he got in the car.
They got in the car and left.

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So this place is called Simmon's Ridge
Road. And I just recently asked.

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We were driving through during the day
and I saw some of the people

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that lived have been living every for
years. And now I'm not as self

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conscious about it, so I throw
it into a conversation, right, I'm

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like, hey, you ever seen
a big foot? And not all that

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some of them gonna look at you
like you're dumb. Yeah, every now

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and then you get the answer was
no, but my brother said he saw

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one in the field back there.
Right, So we drive up the road

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and this is the road that my
mom and dad had the experience on.

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So we see my wife's cousins.
I never met him before. She's supportive,

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and she's hurt some things, and
she's starting to believe I never had

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met her cousin before, and I
just did the same thing, Hey,

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you ever seen a big foot?
And he his demeanor changed. He said

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no, but I think I've heard
one a couple of times just over this

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ridge. And she looks at me
like that's amazing. When we're talking about

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as a crow flies not three miles
from my first sighting. Right, You've

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got all these ridges that interconnect,
and any animals use those for quick getaways.

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They will run a ridge and if
that, if something spooks them,

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a deer, it'll take a let
they know where they're at. They know

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get their getaway there of avoid people
and whatever predators. So these I think

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these rich systems they're using them or
that. I don't know if they still

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are, because after the after they
tore the terrain up when I was fourteen,

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the screams and the activity slowed way
down. It's almost I guess nothing,

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because after the last few screams I
heard and felt they were finishing up.

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And you got to understand, we
take it don't sound like much to

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somebody in Wyoming, but here you
take a couple of thousand acres and clear

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it. You've taken away their travel
or any animal, their travel where they

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can stay it. It was pretty
thick back there, and they turned them

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into just fields. But for the
stories that I've heard talking to people,

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I think they didn't move to too
far. I think maybe north a little

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bit along the there's a Duck River
with rocks and outcroppings. My wife's family

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they have about about one hundred and
thirty acres up there. It's about twenty

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miles from here, and we've recently
had had active So from fourteen or fifteen

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we moved to an area not far
from semond Ridge. But I didn't have

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anything happen at that location. It
was always in the back of my mind.

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There was only one instant that I
heard a tree snap with my cousin,

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I had killed a deer. We
had to track it. It got

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dark on us and there was no
There were no cows. There shouldn't have

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been anybody out there in the dark, way out where we were, And

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I always thought it could have been
a mountainin but now going back and thinking

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of how it actually sounded, it
would have had to have been a very

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two hundred pound something stepping on a
green fall tree fall, and now it

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makes more sense that it was maybe
a snap, But but I don't know

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that. I'm not gonna say that's
what it was. But when all these

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years I didn't forget about it,
but didn't I didn't go looking for this

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to start with, so I wasn't. The only time I ever looked for

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tracks was when they did finish up
the fields and they had moved all the

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dirt out, and I'm like,
you know what this is where this thing

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walked up through here, and if
it's something this big in the wood,

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it's gonna leave track. So I
did go when that was fresh, and

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that's I think that's the only time
I really looked for tracks, and I

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didn't find Anny. Okay. We
fast forward and probably three years ago,

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my son he has some family in
the south end of the even further south

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than here, and we're not we're
we're are twenty five minutes from the Alabama

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border, so we're and I've heard
a lot of stuff come out of North

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Alabama, northeast, especially in the
hills. He was I had hunting in

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years, and he was like,
Dad, my uncle's gonna let us hunt.

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And he said, you could come
to Okay, And it was more

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or less I went as just to
have an experience with him, and I

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said, look, I won't I'll
carry something a rifle with me. I

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won't be hunting. I'll just be
there and we'll we'll carr walkes with us.

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And so we had to. It
was two weeks before the season,

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and I'm like, do you know
anything about the place? He said not,

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really, said we need to go
scout a little bit, and big

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Foot's the farthest thing from my mind. We go up there, we find

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the water sources, we find the
um, the food, we find the

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fences, the holes in the fences
where they travel and we're just having a

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big time walk in and we're not
being that quiet because we're just scouting.

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And we get to a particular point
and I see a tree about five and

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a half foot up and it's a
hard wood it because when whatever snapped it,

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its splintered and just like a high
pressure snap. Being me and I've

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always taught him the question and look
for the answers, don't assume. So

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I'm looking around and I don't see
anything that fell on it. I don't

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see anything at that time. The
top was still there, attached, and

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I'm looking around. I'm like,
you know what I'm thinking. I'm thinking

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to myself. I'm like, I've
seen some of these shows that say this

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is a marker, could be a
marker, and don't go past it.

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Whatever. Maybe it was less trow
than those guys, but I really I

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wasn't thinking bigfoot. But it was
odd, very odd, and no reason

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for it. Okay, So I
had my phone in my pocket, my

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shirt pocket. I stepped past this
tree and this all happened at the same

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time, so Sirie, but I'm
scared to say it. She might wake

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up here on my phone triggered and
my voice is the only thing is supposed

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to trigger that. And Siri said
I don't quite understand, and I look

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down in my pocket and I grabbed
the phone. Because I'm grabbing the phone

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about the side of you double fist. A rock comes over the cedar,

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up the hill, over the cedar
ticket they're not very high and lands I'm

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going to say, twelve to fifteen
yards from us, bounces down and I

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hear it. To my right,
my son's looking at it. I hear

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it. I look up, I
see the rock slowing down and but there.

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It was so much to take in
all of a sudden. Now I've

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got my son out here and we
just had a rock thrown at us,

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and there's nobody out there, and
you really something that think throws rock cast

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have a thumb or two cast out
of a hand. So I didn't rap

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right away what I was doing.
I was thinking, what is our best

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action here? Because any wild animal, you don't want to run, You

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don't want to trigger a response to
get attacked or whatever. So I'm thinking,

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what's the best thing we need to
do with my son. He's so

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funny. The first thing out of
his mouth, he said, are we

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just going to ignore that we had
a rock tossed to us? Let No,

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I Hayden, just calm down,
just hold on. I'm trying to

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I'm trying to figure out what we
need to do. I said, So

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here's what we need to do.
We need to walk down the hill backwards,

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so we're facing whatever this is and
don't look up in there. Let's

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get away and we'll talk about this. And so we went back to the

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truck and we're like, what is
typen? And so we started talking about

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the marker. I said, the
tree. It was right there at the

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tree. And he said, what
was up with Sirie? I said,

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I that's never happened before. So
my question hearing people talk about infrasound and

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all this could infrasound trigger Sirie because
I've had that feeling. I've seen people

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like where they go with the with
the line and then measure their infrasound and

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they're like, oh, do you
feel anything, and their jittery and whatever,

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and so that's my first question was
like, neither one of us said

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a word, so that's not supposed
to happen. Segment all, we got

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the marker and then we got the
rock tossing the Sirie by itself wouldn't have

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been a big deal. The tree
by itself wouldn't have been a big deal,

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but put together with the rock toss, it became very fig deal.

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And we scared me because but we
didn't feel threatened though. That's what we

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talked about. We didn't feel threatened. We talked about should we go back,

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and we did. We went in
before daylight. We had put him

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up a stand in a few days
after that where our hunt. It's not

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two hundred to two hundred and fifty
yards from that spot where he hunts is

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over over the ridge. It's not
one hundred and fifty yards. And like

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I said, we've never felt threatened
there, and there have been times.

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Um one morning I was there had
and the breeze was blowing. It was

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from up the hill. I don't
know what direction actually that is. You

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pay attention to it as a hunter. Okay, we got the breeze coming

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this way. I knew that Tayton
was good and that I would good anything

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up the hill. And I'm sitting
there. I've been sitting there for forty

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five minutes. It hasn't start breaking
daylight yet, but it's getting close.

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So there, so fresh air,
nice morning. I'm close to the spring

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water source and I'm actually sitting blind
on the ground, which I don't like

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doing that, but I was backed
up into a bank with some trees and

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stuff, so I felt like I
had that spot covered keep something from walking

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up on me. I get a
whiff of the only thing. I yea.

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It did smell like a wet dog, but it had a an like

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death decay. No, let's decay, wet dog with decay, right,

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and I perked up. It's behind
me, and that's where the wind was

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blowing. It's just a light breeze, maybe three seconds. It was quick.

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But here's the thing. You know, I've smelt dead animals, and

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but when if you do and the
wind blowing to you, you're gonna keep

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smelling it. Right. So I'm
like, this thing is moving, whatever

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this is, it's moving. And
I got on Milwaukee and I'm like,

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Peyton, I'm not trying to scare
you. We've got something coming in between

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us that stinks like something I've never
actually smelled before, and it's moving.

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I think it's coming to you.
He never got a whiff of it,

387
00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:52.719
which is even more strange. And
we have smelt this on more than one

388
00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:58.199
occasion, and he's got a whiff
of it a couple of times, but

389
00:34:58.480 --> 00:35:02.920
we've never felt threatened. And he's
had some strange things, some sounds.

390
00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:08.079
He was by hisself one day and
I got a text. I'll check up

391
00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:13.480
on him quite a bit because it's
in I'm going nowhere and he's twenty five,

392
00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:17.320
so he can take but you just
don't. It's not smart to hunt

393
00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:20.880
by yourself. But as long as
he checks up with me ever so often.

394
00:35:21.719 --> 00:35:22.639
And I said, let me know
when you're leaving and all that.

395
00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:32.519
He said, Daddy, I just
heard what sounded like a monkey. He

396
00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:37.639
said. It was the build up
who and then yet kind of a yell.

397
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:42.079
He said, it wasn't a scream, and it was the direction it

398
00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:46.760
came from was over the same direction
as the marker and the rock through,

399
00:35:46.880 --> 00:35:51.639
but even further over on the other
side of the hill. And he said,

400
00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:55.239
at first I thought it was a
boy, he said, but on

401
00:35:55.280 --> 00:36:00.599
the beginning of it, but as
it followed through with it, he said

402
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:06.159
it wasn't. And he's in a
little bit of his background. He's always

403
00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:08.960
loved animals. If you have a
question about an animal, I don't care

404
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:13.880
if it's in Australia. He grew
up watching Steve Irwin. He the teachers

405
00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:17.480
loved him because they could ask him
about this rare bird in Mexico and he

406
00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:22.360
was like, oh yeah, that's
that was his thing. So he's not

407
00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:29.360
inexperienced as far as things like you
know, and he's really level headed.

408
00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:35.159
He's the first thing we do is
we question what could this be? First?

409
00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:38.079
Always, and you'll find answer a
lot of times. That's why I'm

410
00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:46.320
saying not everything's as quiet. I
really like the way he approaches things and

411
00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:52.360
went but when he tells me something, I believe him because because it's between

412
00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:57.559
us, it's no sensational look,
it's just, hey, daddy, we

413
00:36:57.639 --> 00:37:04.159
might need to keep an eye on
this or whatever. We've had strange things

414
00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:09.360
happen and we've been there. We
went back last year and it was dry.

415
00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:14.480
That's the first thing we knew it
was drying our county. But that's

416
00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:17.039
the first thing I noticed. The
spring was almost nothing. The ponds were

417
00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:22.800
dry. It had a totally different
feel the whole area. Did We didn't

418
00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:27.280
hear anything, We didn't see anything, and we've been several times where we

419
00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:34.039
didn't. But last hunting season.
After that, he's walking his ridge up

420
00:37:34.039 --> 00:37:38.679
to his tree stand and I go
to my spot and we don't text each

421
00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:43.159
other because it lights up, right, I got a text. So when

422
00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:46.400
I got a text, I'm like, oh, And it's really a miracle

423
00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:50.760
that I actually got the text because
of the signal was like a signal back

424
00:37:50.760 --> 00:37:52.840
in there and as the pictures coming
through, and it took a while,

425
00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:57.480
and when it finally came through,
I don't know. You may have seen

426
00:37:57.519 --> 00:38:01.519
the picture in the one of the
groups on Facebook, but it's the thorn

427
00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:07.199
tree. It really hard, really
tough, no scuffs on it and something

428
00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:09.679
it looks something and taken like this
and broke it down. And there was

429
00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:15.000
probably one hundred and fifty two hundred
of those in this on this ridge and

430
00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:19.320
it used to be a field and
it has grown up now. And he

431
00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:23.039
saw it and he snapped the picture
of we got the flash and he like,

432
00:38:23.559 --> 00:38:31.320
wh what the hell is this?
And so after our hunts over with,

433
00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:35.840
he takes me up there and that's
the first thing we do. We

434
00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:39.440
look around it. We look maybe
seph a tractor, maybe I've done had

435
00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:45.559
made that damage. I didn't think
so because of the way it was done.

436
00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:49.239
All of the thorns, some of
the thorns are three inches long.

437
00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:54.199
All of those branches and thorns are
intact. So if a truck runs over

438
00:38:54.280 --> 00:38:58.440
something like that, they're gonna knock
some of those off. If a bull

439
00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:02.599
rubs up against it, going to
knock some of those off. Everything was

440
00:39:02.639 --> 00:39:12.639
in tight except that ford, and
it was and so have you ever when

441
00:39:12.639 --> 00:39:15.880
we were kids, when we'd have
we'd be out, we didn't have a

442
00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:20.119
lot of toys. We'd be outside
all the time. He's seven or eight

443
00:39:20.159 --> 00:39:22.719
years old. We would go and
pick a sapling, climb up it a

444
00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:25.639
little bit, and it's not going
to support your weight. So you would

445
00:39:25.679 --> 00:39:30.639
write it down right exactly. Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about.

446
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:36.239
When one of those breaks, i'll
call it a soft break, it'll

447
00:39:36.280 --> 00:39:39.960
bend, it'll put pressure, you
know, and give it'll give way,

448
00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:45.639
and it'll split, but it may
split in a bunch of different places or

449
00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:49.360
whatever. And you can tell that
the pressure was from up in the tree.

450
00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:53.519
And then somebody wrote it down,
well, these what's strange about these

451
00:39:53.519 --> 00:40:01.440
particular trees being a harder wood and
it looke like something just snapped it right

452
00:40:01.440 --> 00:40:05.440
there at that point. If you
take let's say I may have one here.

453
00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:08.199
I know this is crazy. I
don't know if anybody can see this

454
00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:14.559
or whatever, but I've got a
number two pencil. If I take and

455
00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:16.920
break this thing like this, it's
bending and it's gonna break somewhere in here.

456
00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:20.880
But if I push pressure right there, but I know where it's gonna

457
00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:24.400
break, it's gonna break right there. And that's a high pressure break.

458
00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:30.440
So that's the difference in something that
a softer would that. So anyway,

459
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:34.079
and I'm no expert. I've just
been in the wood and you know it,

460
00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:44.079
and I'm always open to somebody educating
me. I noticed things like that,

461
00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:49.480
and if I can't explain it,
I'll keep trying. But some of

462
00:40:49.480 --> 00:40:53.079
these I can't other And I don't
know if you've heard Mike Blueler, I

463
00:40:53.199 --> 00:40:59.039
haven't know. Okay, he's I
help co hosts with him on Red Creek

464
00:40:59.119 --> 00:41:05.679
Mafia on you To. And I
heard his story on Cliff and Bobo podcast

465
00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:13.760
coming home from work right and it
there were some things he said that made

466
00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:17.920
me realize. Okay. One thing
he was talking about was the size of

467
00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:22.039
the form. He had a really
close encounter lasted a while, but the

468
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:27.800
size of the forms and the fingers
looked like bananas the size of bananas.

469
00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:32.320
And I'm driving home and I'm like, if that's the case, then what

470
00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:37.800
I thought was a tough tree break
for something might not be as hard as

471
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:44.039
what I thought. So I contacted
him through email and I can I talk

472
00:41:44.039 --> 00:41:47.960
to you because this stuff started happening. I started, I started, there's

473
00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:57.840
podcast now, of course, and
he was nice enough to answer back,

474
00:41:58.719 --> 00:42:06.119
and we hit it off and I
asked him all kinds of questions like what

475
00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:10.639
did this look like? What did
that look like? And we've learned something.

476
00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:14.559
We've learned a lot of stuff in
the last three months because of the

477
00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:24.159
guests. Let's come home. Because
I told my story or one of my

478
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:29.880
stories, I had a friend contact
me on messenger on Facebook and said,

479
00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:36.519
hey, Roger, you remember when
my brother and I lives Verona, Caney

480
00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:38.360
Creek whatever, And I'm like,
yeah, he said, we walked up

481
00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:40.800
on one. They were like twelve, He said, we walked up on

482
00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:46.400
one. He's the farmer had said
keep an eye out because something was stealing

483
00:42:46.440 --> 00:42:51.639
his calves. And he said when
they fished the creek down there, they

484
00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:54.679
would walk through and they heard some
of the calves bawling and making noise.

485
00:42:54.719 --> 00:43:00.519
And so they walked over there,
and he's got his brother with him,

486
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:05.239
younger brother, a couple of years
younger. And he said, he said,

487
00:43:05.280 --> 00:43:07.400
my mind could make sense of it
at first, but it was a

488
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:12.639
big foot and he had a calf
by the leg, dragging it through a

489
00:43:12.679 --> 00:43:15.559
fence. And when it saw us, he said, it looked irritated that

490
00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:22.119
we had seen him. And he
let the calf go, turned and walked

491
00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:24.960
off, and turned and looked at
him and did a huff, you know,

492
00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:30.199
And he said, I saw his
teeth. He said, close enough,

493
00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:34.440
twenty yards. He saw his teeth, and he stepped over the four

494
00:43:34.519 --> 00:43:39.079
strand of barbar just stepped right over
it and walked across this field. And

495
00:43:39.159 --> 00:43:43.639
I was just I'm floored. I
talked to him for two hours. I'm

496
00:43:43.639 --> 00:43:45.440
like, Kevin, how how come? He said, I didn't know.

497
00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:51.119
Everybody was laughed at me. I'm
glad you finally you told your stories.

498
00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:52.480
I don't feel as crazy now,
but I know what I saw, and

499
00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:58.840
nobody ever tell me. Wow.
And this was something that he had a

500
00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:04.960
thirty second to a minute. It
psyching and up close and personal. And

501
00:44:05.599 --> 00:44:09.559
that see, I'm not the bravest
person in the world. So that two

502
00:44:09.679 --> 00:44:15.000
hundred yard cushion that I had,
even though I was probably wrong, I

503
00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:17.000
felt like I could get to the
back door quick, quicker than he could

504
00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:22.519
get me, which that's how kids
think. But twenty yards fifteen twenty yards,

505
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:27.079
I don't know if I would make
it through that part wire, but

506
00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:32.039
it just it just confirms there there
are people around this country that might listen

507
00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:39.800
to this. It's okay. Now, I don't know if the shows the

508
00:44:39.880 --> 00:44:49.159
negative if you say something about bigfoot. I mean, I've got the odor

509
00:44:49.159 --> 00:44:54.559
and in the everywhere. Yeah right, it's everywhere. I've got stuff people

510
00:44:54.599 --> 00:44:59.880
give me. I told this story, and I thought the other gonna thing

511
00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:02.960
nuts. Somebody went to Branson,
Missouri and brought me back this posters that's

512
00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:07.559
got a sasquat steamed park there.
I didn't know that, yeah exactly.

513
00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:17.119
And so now but here's the problem. The problem now you run into which

514
00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:22.480
is a little bit before. I
didn't go looking for this. We do

515
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:28.440
go out now, and I've got
a couple of situations where I've slowed down

516
00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:32.760
a little bit. But there are
people that want to have an experience so

517
00:45:32.840 --> 00:45:38.679
bad that every every leaf, ever
twig break, every the other night.

518
00:45:39.400 --> 00:45:44.719
Yep, I know exactly what you're
talking about, Roger. Yeah, and

519
00:45:44.840 --> 00:45:46.800
you don't want to. I'm sitting
there telling y'all saw a big foot,

520
00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:52.519
so I can't tell another person they
didn't, right, I'm not gonna do

521
00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:55.920
that. I'm gonna listen to you. Now, if you showed me pictures

522
00:45:55.920 --> 00:45:59.360
and you've been faking some stuff,
I'm not gonna hurt your feelings. But

523
00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:01.239
I'm just gonna oh, oh yeah, that's cool. But if it's if

524
00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:05.639
it looks legit, I'm going to
pick your brain. Hey, can you

525
00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:13.639
take me out there? Yeah?
So, but I think I can.

526
00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:19.880
My best meter is pretty pretty good. Yeah. Now, there's some will

527
00:46:19.880 --> 00:46:24.920
get past you, but that's okay. But I think some of them want

528
00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:31.880
an experience so bad they'll they'll see
pictures, they'll find things the paradoia,

529
00:46:31.960 --> 00:46:36.920
thandel and but I can't say anything
about that. I've got I had a

530
00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:39.760
couple of things happened to me where
my son sir, he's what is this

531
00:46:39.840 --> 00:46:44.599
and he circled it and I'm like, oh my god, and it and

532
00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:49.760
I've got a picture I'll send you
later. I had a tree fall.

533
00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:52.480
We had a gift in spot.
We tried this we heard these other people.

534
00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:58.239
So we had some activity. We
have some strange sounds, strange smells,

535
00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:04.920
sounds for footfalls, like it come
out one of the large rocks and

536
00:47:05.079 --> 00:47:08.960
boomed like a six hundred pound cow
but two feet. A lot of strange

537
00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:13.039
things was happening at this one location, and we would go out there at

538
00:47:13.119 --> 00:47:15.679
night. I used to sit outside
the truck. Now I sit inside the

539
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:21.800
truck. I don't. But we
went back one day and we gifted.

540
00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:25.280
We put some some fruit and stuff
out there, well meant, my son

541
00:47:25.320 --> 00:47:30.920
and I we were out there,
and I've got it on audio on the

542
00:47:31.039 --> 00:47:36.039
video, but it's hard and I'm
embarrassed because it scared me so bad that

543
00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:39.039
I said some very old blue words. It just came out, and I'm

544
00:47:39.079 --> 00:47:46.880
like, I didn't even realize it
didn'tuntil we replayed it. And what happened.

545
00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:51.159
We went in, we found the
spot or we'd had all the strange

546
00:47:51.159 --> 00:47:53.760
stuff that the smells and stuff at
night. So we went in during the

547
00:47:53.840 --> 00:48:00.320
day and it's on some family land. We had a bag of fruit and

548
00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:05.599
we had a rake with me to
what I was wanting to do is put

549
00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:08.920
out some stuff and then rake all
the leaves up and clear in case something

550
00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:13.920
stepped in to get it. Then
I would maybe get a footprint or something

551
00:48:13.960 --> 00:48:21.719
like that. And as soon as
we walked in, not only did we

552
00:48:21.840 --> 00:48:24.800
hear stuff, but we could hear
stuff before we heard stuff, Like we

553
00:48:24.920 --> 00:48:30.800
heard it sounded like a log was
thrown, like a log that had been

554
00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:35.480
down for a few months. A
log was thrown, and it was thrown

555
00:48:35.519 --> 00:48:38.079
so hard. And there's these big
rocks. It's close to that river I

556
00:48:38.119 --> 00:48:42.639
was talking about, so a lot
of the top souls gone. And it

557
00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:45.559
sounded like it was thrown against one
of those rocks and it broke, and

558
00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:50.280
it didn't sound like it was green. It was it'd been there a while.

559
00:48:50.760 --> 00:48:54.360
But the thing was we were so
close we had heard it pick it

560
00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:59.960
up and pick up like you pick
up one end and drag it too.

561
00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:01.760
You oh wow. And you can
hear me in the video. I'm up.

562
00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:06.000
Wait. So before all these sounds, these big sounds, we could

563
00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:12.320
hear the other movement. And then
we get the high pressure tree snaps just

564
00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:17.199
cracked, and we're talking fifty to
sixty yards through the woods and just out

565
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:21.320
of sight. All this stuff that's
happened here has just been out of sight

566
00:49:22.440 --> 00:49:27.039
tree has been I'm gonna say,
I hate to even say pushed over,

567
00:49:27.280 --> 00:49:30.880
but what are the odds of these
trees falling? And I had one,

568
00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:35.360
I've got it on video where I
went back by myself a couple of days

569
00:49:35.440 --> 00:49:40.440
later to check the fruit and this
tree that had been broken and suspended there

570
00:49:40.840 --> 00:49:45.360
it decided to fall while I was
videoing fall the rest of the way,

571
00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:50.320
and that's where I get the I
hate to say this, the cloaking look

572
00:49:50.679 --> 00:49:54.360
figure in the picture. I didn't
see it while I was there, so

573
00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:59.920
but something and my son and everybody's
looked at this video is like it almost

574
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:05.039
look like it was pulled down,
like being up over here. And then

575
00:50:05.159 --> 00:50:09.119
this back end responded to it.
So anyway, the day, the couple

576
00:50:09.239 --> 00:50:15.599
days before we had all this activity
we had it sounded like a maybe a

577
00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:22.280
thirty pound boulder toss. Like I
said, it's about fifty yards away and

578
00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:28.159
all this noise. It sounded like
something was irritated that we were there.

579
00:50:28.679 --> 00:50:34.679
But the final thing, so close
to the final thing that scared me was

580
00:50:35.119 --> 00:50:38.920
a series of sounds where I heard
it. I heard something pick up something

581
00:50:40.679 --> 00:50:46.360
like a tree that had fallen or
something, and then the best way I

582
00:50:46.360 --> 00:50:52.239
can explain it after listening to it
fifty times, is it sound like it

583
00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:57.679
picked it up or heard that.
And you know how some of the tennis

584
00:50:57.679 --> 00:51:01.320
players grunt when they hit the tenant
or when they exert a lot of energy,

585
00:51:01.519 --> 00:51:07.760
or I don't know if baseball players
do it, but maybe somebody with

586
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:10.920
an axe. They're putting everything they've
got into it. And you hear that

587
00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:19.760
when I hear the right as the
tree or whatever was hit another piece of

588
00:51:19.800 --> 00:51:25.760
wood and it broke, there was
a huff so loud and so big that

589
00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:31.239
I can just imagine the nostrils just
being massive, and it was so deep,

590
00:51:32.159 --> 00:51:35.960
and that's when the cuss words come
out. And I'm like, oh,

591
00:51:36.039 --> 00:51:39.079
we may be in trouble. And
here I am thinking, you eat

592
00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:42.719
it. You've got your son out
here and you know, walked up in

593
00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:45.320
the middle of something and you may
not be able to get out of it.

594
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:47.960
That's how big this thing sounded.
What's interesting is, of course the

595
00:51:49.079 --> 00:51:53.880
video doesn't do it just this as
far as the volume. But everybody we've

596
00:51:53.880 --> 00:51:57.880
shown this video and they put the
headphones in and they listen to it.

597
00:51:58.719 --> 00:52:00.920
So here's what we get that sounds
like a line that sounds like a beard,

598
00:52:01.000 --> 00:52:06.719
that sounds like all these huge mammals
right southern Middle ten Z. We

599
00:52:06.719 --> 00:52:08.840
don't have lines. We don't have
I don't know if a bear can make

600
00:52:08.840 --> 00:52:14.440
that sound. They're taught that when
they hear it, they know it's something

601
00:52:14.519 --> 00:52:17.239
big and it's not a horse.
A horse. You hear a horse,

602
00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:22.559
you know what a horse sounds like. Right? This thing expelled so much

603
00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:30.320
air while it was exerting this pressure
or this energy that I could almost see

604
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:37.199
the nostrils in my It had to
be huge, and it had to be

605
00:52:37.239 --> 00:52:40.280
big to make the noises. And
we had a final tree break. But

606
00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:45.239
what we did, it did It
scared me. Um. It scared me

607
00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:47.679
so bad that we didn't go back
for a while. But I said,

608
00:52:50.079 --> 00:52:52.480
in my head, oh, I
told my son union seeing the video,

609
00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:58.079
I said, Okay, clear your
mind, and I said, we're not

610
00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:00.960
here to hurt you. We're not
here. We're just curious and we don't

611
00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:06.679
want to be hurt either. We're
just Yes. I didn't know if that

612
00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:07.800
was the right thing, but I
felt like it's something I need to do,

613
00:53:08.840 --> 00:53:13.039
and when I did it, I
don't know if it's endorphins or one

614
00:53:13.199 --> 00:53:16.719
It was, but I got this
you for it feeling. So I'm being

615
00:53:16.800 --> 00:53:21.599
cool and calm, trying to be
and I said, Titan, what are

616
00:53:21.599 --> 00:53:25.320
you feeling right now? And he
said, the whole field of the woods

617
00:53:25.360 --> 00:53:30.679
just changed. Now. I don't
know if it's power suggestion. I don't

618
00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:34.079
know if that made us feel better. It could be. But what we

619
00:53:34.159 --> 00:53:38.400
went through from fifteen minutes and that
ending on that, I knew we would,

620
00:53:38.639 --> 00:53:44.559
we'd tick something off. I knew
it. I knew this thing is

621
00:53:44.599 --> 00:53:47.519
not good. And we took a
break. He hadn't been back. He

622
00:53:47.599 --> 00:53:51.519
has not been back. He's not
a small guy. He can take care

623
00:53:51.519 --> 00:53:54.320
of himself. And he said,
I'm not going back there. I did

624
00:53:54.400 --> 00:53:59.119
the next day or I keep saying
that a couple of days later, and

625
00:53:59.119 --> 00:54:05.239
that's when the tree was either pulled
down and fell down. And I don't

626
00:54:05.280 --> 00:54:12.000
know. I can't explain a lot
of this stuff talking. It is good

627
00:54:12.039 --> 00:54:17.639
to talk to people and get their
opinion to what it might be. No,

628
00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:27.800
if you when you get that good
feeling, something wrong. I'm fifty

629
00:54:27.840 --> 00:54:30.480
two years old, I've done some
stupid stuff. I've got scars, I

630
00:54:30.599 --> 00:54:35.320
broke bones, and just before that
happened, and you get this feeling like,

631
00:54:35.400 --> 00:54:40.880
oh, I did it again.
Some of this is we started having

632
00:54:42.159 --> 00:54:45.440
these interactions and I think we got
a little over zealous, and we're not

633
00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:50.360
We're trying to figure out some things, and I just don't want to get

634
00:54:50.400 --> 00:54:52.599
hurting the process. I don't want
to get him hurting the process or anybody.

635
00:54:53.360 --> 00:55:00.519
And there's so much. There's so
much that's happened. Wife is with

636
00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:07.039
me one night at the same area
and over to our right, she's on

637
00:55:07.079 --> 00:55:09.599
the way apart. The left side
is where this area is, and she

638
00:55:10.280 --> 00:55:14.719
can hear and see on this right
side. It was dark, good and

639
00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:19.920
quiet, and she said, what
is that? What? And she said,

640
00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:25.239
up in that tree and just across
the drive back in there there's some

641
00:55:25.360 --> 00:55:32.840
trees and saplings, a few cedars, and there was a light. It

642
00:55:32.920 --> 00:55:40.239
wasn't like it wasn't fluorescent, it
wasn't led or anything that bright. It

643
00:55:40.320 --> 00:55:49.719
was more of a like a moon, a moon like when it's not a

644
00:55:49.800 --> 00:55:53.079
it's bright. It's not a full
moon, just have for crescent order.

645
00:55:53.559 --> 00:55:57.480
So I'm looking at it and that's
the first thing I think, what's the

646
00:55:57.480 --> 00:56:02.000
moon? She said, no,
it's because it's over there. Okay,

647
00:56:02.159 --> 00:56:07.679
So we're looking and it's not pulsating. It's not, but it does get

648
00:56:07.800 --> 00:56:15.440
gradually bigger. That's about the size
of just not quite side of the tennis

649
00:56:15.480 --> 00:56:17.760
ball when I first see it.
And it's not perfectly around either. And

650
00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:21.880
we keep watching this one from fifteen
or twenty minutes. This is the same

651
00:56:21.960 --> 00:56:23.800
area. I have. People say, well, that comes along with the

652
00:56:23.800 --> 00:56:29.119
big Foot, and we watch it. And I backed the truck up to

653
00:56:29.199 --> 00:56:31.960
get different views of it. And
I said, how far you think that

654
00:56:32.920 --> 00:56:36.519
up in the tree there? She
said, I don't know how to tell

655
00:56:36.599 --> 00:56:38.360
us. So do you know how
how basketball goal is? She said,

656
00:56:38.360 --> 00:56:42.559
oh yeah. I said, do
you think that's in which it was?

657
00:56:42.719 --> 00:56:45.480
Do you think that's about the same
height? She said, yeah it is.

658
00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:52.239
I said, so it's not a
person with a light. We're ruling

659
00:56:52.239 --> 00:56:58.000
that out. It got bigger and
it was misshaping, and then it come

660
00:56:58.039 --> 00:57:02.159
back gradually any minutes, and I
would move forward and backward to get better

661
00:57:02.159 --> 00:57:06.119
looks at it, and it just
faded out. We don't know what that

662
00:57:06.280 --> 00:57:08.840
was. It shouldn't be there.
I went a few days later, going

663
00:57:08.920 --> 00:57:13.119
behind during the day and look to
see if there's any trail, couns,

664
00:57:13.159 --> 00:57:20.000
any light, sources, any any
place where something like that could be hung

665
00:57:20.079 --> 00:57:23.800
up there, and it's not.
There's no place, there's no tracks,

666
00:57:23.960 --> 00:57:30.079
the leaves, there's no disturbances.
So no, it wasn't something somebody put

667
00:57:30.159 --> 00:57:34.679
up there, is what I'm saying. And that's that in itself is just

668
00:57:34.760 --> 00:57:38.320
strange. But and then you pair
it with this other activity that we've had

669
00:57:38.719 --> 00:57:45.400
and we just don't know. We
were out and we've been married a little

670
00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:50.679
over three years, we've been together
forward. So she's she's so good.

671
00:57:52.480 --> 00:58:00.639
When we first met, let's say, skin Walker Ranch, some some of

672
00:58:00.679 --> 00:58:05.239
the big Foot shows, some of
the YouTube stuff, I'm like, she's

673
00:58:05.239 --> 00:58:12.199
gonna think I'm crazy, But she
didn't wearing a due Boy woman two years

674
00:58:12.239 --> 00:58:17.199
ago in April that, Yeah,
it was two years ago, and we'll

675
00:58:17.280 --> 00:58:21.440
go back. I think it was
Tory Lake. We went to Cowboy Cafe,

676
00:58:21.960 --> 00:58:24.679
we got something to eat, and
we had enough time to go back

677
00:58:24.679 --> 00:58:29.000
and here I had actually looked it
up as a place you could drive back

678
00:58:29.039 --> 00:58:35.480
and just beautiful. Nobody back there, and I had a video going and

679
00:58:35.559 --> 00:58:39.559
I made the comment being stupid,
just being extra country. I don't know

680
00:58:39.599 --> 00:58:42.800
if y'all know this or not,
boys, but this is. It's a

681
00:58:42.880 --> 00:58:45.519
Yeddi country right here. And I
was gonna send it back to my buddies

682
00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:51.639
and show them just how it's hard
to describe how beautiful this was and how

683
00:58:51.679 --> 00:58:55.440
far back and the river, and
I expect to see if grizzly or mount

684
00:58:55.519 --> 00:59:00.639
lying any second, and whatever bears
they have. We go to the back.

685
00:59:00.639 --> 00:59:04.320
We go nine miles back in and
we turn around. We got the

686
00:59:04.360 --> 00:59:09.800
windows. Now we're coming back out
and I'm barely going. We're looking at

687
00:59:09.800 --> 00:59:15.719
everything. We're in awe and to
on her side of the truck, there's

688
00:59:15.719 --> 00:59:28.159
an ahaw how Now it's not like
it didn't have the volume that that I

689
00:59:28.280 --> 00:59:34.079
had heard before. And when you
get in those mountains, that mountain may

690
00:59:34.119 --> 00:59:38.360
look like it's a mile away,
it could be ten. So I actually

691
00:59:38.360 --> 00:59:40.719
thought it was somebody messing with us. But then when you think about it,

692
00:59:42.679 --> 00:59:45.320
there were no vehicles. It might
have been a hiker, right.

693
00:59:45.639 --> 00:59:49.320
But she looked at me and she
said, she said, did you just

694
00:59:49.440 --> 00:59:51.480
hear that? Only? Yeah,
I actually did. What do you think

695
00:59:51.480 --> 00:59:53.039
it was? She said? All
I know, I've been watching too many

696
00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:58.119
of those damn shows. Where was
this again, Roger? This wasn't the

697
00:59:58.280 --> 01:00:07.639
boys? Women oh okay, wow, yeah, and it was I had

698
01:00:07.679 --> 01:00:09.519
talked to Don, my game one
friend. He's now Roger. Don't write

699
01:00:09.559 --> 01:00:15.039
it off because it could have been
a smaller one and it could have been

700
01:00:15.119 --> 01:00:20.039
two miles away. And I'm like, we're right. But like I said

701
01:00:20.079 --> 01:00:24.760
that, my first instinct is to
explain things away. And because it didn't

702
01:00:24.760 --> 01:00:30.639
have the volume that the one I
had heard several times, I just thought,

703
01:00:30.679 --> 01:00:34.719
maybe hopefully it was somebody, because
this stuff scares me a little bit.

704
01:00:36.800 --> 01:00:39.239
I'm not going to be out in
a tent. I talked to a

705
01:00:39.239 --> 01:00:44.400
guy I got a new job.
There was a guy. One was from

706
01:00:44.440 --> 01:00:49.400
Minnesota and the other guy we're in
training, and the other ones from California.

707
01:00:49.599 --> 01:00:53.800
And I didn't bring anything up.
I noticed the one guy had a

708
01:00:53.800 --> 01:00:59.000
Sasquatch hat on. He was from
Wisconsin, and the guy from California said,

709
01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:00.679
oh, you believe in sasquats.
He said, oh yeah, we

710
01:01:01.199 --> 01:01:06.280
found a track away in the snow
one time that was just unbelievable. And

711
01:01:06.639 --> 01:01:10.719
of course here I go. My
head's turning, and this guy said,

712
01:01:10.760 --> 01:01:15.920
I want to walk into my camp
one night up close to the Sarah Nevada's.

713
01:01:16.480 --> 01:01:23.480
He started naming Claquemus River and Humboldt
County and all this stuff, and

714
01:01:23.519 --> 01:01:27.760
I'm and I just keep laying.
I said, Hi, nice to meet

715
01:01:27.800 --> 01:01:30.800
you. My names because I knew
I could talk to these guys or just

716
01:01:30.960 --> 01:01:37.039
learned. And that's some amazing stories. He said he didn't see it because

717
01:01:37.039 --> 01:01:39.840
he scared him. He stayed in
the tent, but I guess he had

718
01:01:40.440 --> 01:01:46.920
moonlight and maybe smells and sounds and
all of his friends, he said,

719
01:01:47.440 --> 01:01:52.440
had experiences back in the day.
So it's been a it's been a whirlwind.

720
01:01:53.679 --> 01:02:02.079
Jeremiah once I told my story the
amount of stories that I have now,

721
01:02:04.400 --> 01:02:08.800
and I'm telling you there are some
people that I don't know, but

722
01:02:08.880 --> 01:02:16.480
there are some that I've known them
all my life and and some of them

723
01:02:16.559 --> 01:02:22.039
haven't watched the TV shows or listen
to the podcast. There's one, the

724
01:02:22.039 --> 01:02:27.119
one I said, I can't say
a name, so he sends me a

725
01:02:27.119 --> 01:02:35.320
message a messenger after that first show. I did thank you for explaining things

726
01:02:35.320 --> 01:02:37.800
the way you did, because now
what happened to me made sense. But

727
01:02:37.599 --> 01:02:42.519
I can't let it get out because
of my job. I'm like, can

728
01:02:42.599 --> 01:02:45.719
you call me? So we talked
on the phone for a while. He

729
01:02:45.760 --> 01:02:47.239
said, he was on his porch
and this is not far from me.

730
01:02:49.599 --> 01:02:53.719
This is actually close to some activity
that's meant going on for since of seventies.

731
01:02:58.679 --> 01:03:06.719
This is Saint Mary ten miles circle
right. He said it out on

732
01:03:06.719 --> 01:03:09.719
his porch one night, rural area. His dog was there out there.

733
01:03:10.559 --> 01:03:15.039
He said it sounded. He said
he heard a scream and it sounded like

734
01:03:15.079 --> 01:03:20.159
a mixture between a woman and an
elephant. It's where he in his mind.

735
01:03:21.119 --> 01:03:27.119
And he said, his dog,
Pete on the porch, ran to

736
01:03:27.199 --> 01:03:29.079
the door, and he was trying
to get into the door, and the

737
01:03:29.119 --> 01:03:30.960
dog was trying to get into the
door. He said, he almost pete

738
01:03:31.000 --> 01:03:37.039
the porch too, and he and
he wondering what it was. He said,

739
01:03:37.400 --> 01:03:38.880
but here he's the thing. He
said, when you said you felt

740
01:03:38.920 --> 01:03:44.239
that scream, I felt it too. And he said, and you and

741
01:03:44.320 --> 01:03:47.639
it made sense when you said it. I said, let me ask you

742
01:03:47.719 --> 01:03:52.880
some questions. I said, do
you watch big foot shows? No?

743
01:03:53.320 --> 01:03:55.840
You listen to podcasts? No?
I don't. He said, I don't

744
01:03:55.880 --> 01:04:00.239
know any of this stuff. I
don't know. He said, but when

745
01:04:00.280 --> 01:04:04.280
you said this or that, it
made sense, so I kept listening.

746
01:04:05.320 --> 01:04:10.840
Then he said, two weeks later
it was opening a gun season, dear

747
01:04:10.960 --> 01:04:16.119
season here, and they've got a
little money, and so there where I

748
01:04:16.199 --> 01:04:19.559
might have him being a tree stander
in a fold out seat Ozart Trail from

749
01:04:19.559 --> 01:04:26.599
Mamart. They've got these nice houses
with COMPLEXI glass and it's almost too nice.

750
01:04:27.280 --> 01:04:31.480
And I know exactly when he's talking
about. And he said, he

751
01:04:31.559 --> 01:04:35.400
said, get my four wheeler back
there and hide it, and then I'd

752
01:04:35.440 --> 01:04:41.400
walk across the field forty five minutes
before daylight, he said. And this

753
01:04:41.480 --> 01:04:45.320
was two weeks after I heard that
sound. He said, I go in,

754
01:04:45.519 --> 01:04:47.320
I get inside. I locked the
door, a little flimsy door,

755
01:04:47.360 --> 01:04:54.639
but it locked, and he said, there's a hickory tree on his dad.

756
01:04:55.239 --> 01:04:58.920
I don't forget too much away.
His dad taught me how to smoke

757
01:04:59.559 --> 01:05:02.039
meet. We did it the old
way, back and back the end,

758
01:05:02.039 --> 01:05:08.199
and so they always had a lot
of hickory cut and had huge smokers.

759
01:05:08.880 --> 01:05:11.559
And he said, there's this one
hickory tree. He said, I always

760
01:05:11.840 --> 01:05:14.159
look at it get daylight and I
said, I, oh, my daddy,

761
01:05:14.199 --> 01:05:18.119
don't cut that down. This is
it's an awesome tree. He said.

762
01:05:18.800 --> 01:05:21.679
I'm sitting there. He said,
it's about thirty minutes or so before

763
01:05:21.760 --> 01:05:30.119
daylight, and I hear some grunting
and growling and huffing, and he sounded

764
01:05:30.159 --> 01:05:32.119
like he said, it sounded like
something very large was upset. He said.

765
01:05:32.159 --> 01:05:38.400
It wasn't a bull, it wasn't
a cow. It had this this,

766
01:05:39.360 --> 01:05:41.280
he said, I just knew it
wasn't about it. He said that

767
01:05:41.599 --> 01:05:45.079
it was massive, he said,
And it was in the fence room,

768
01:05:45.199 --> 01:05:47.599
and it was close to the hickory
trees near as I could tell, he

769
01:05:47.679 --> 01:05:51.639
said. So he was so scared
that he took his chair and put it

770
01:05:51.719 --> 01:05:56.239
up against the door. He said, what I figured was it was dark,

771
01:05:57.079 --> 01:06:00.039
and I didn't. He said,
if it came in on me,

772
01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:02.960
whatever it was, I would fill
the door moving and then I could maybe

773
01:06:02.960 --> 01:06:05.199
get shot off or whatever. He
said. I was scared to death,

774
01:06:06.079 --> 01:06:12.280
he said. Fifteen minutes before daylight, he still hearing some of the noises

775
01:06:12.360 --> 01:06:15.960
and not as much, but it
was maybe letting him know that it was

776
01:06:15.960 --> 01:06:24.559
still there. And then he heard
a loud crash snap and didn't know what

777
01:06:24.639 --> 01:06:30.239
it was, and heard another noise, and then after that it went quiet.

778
01:06:31.039 --> 01:06:33.920
So I was getting close to them. Daylight is getting close to sun,

779
01:06:34.280 --> 01:06:39.440
right, So he said, he
didn't know what to do. He

780
01:06:39.480 --> 01:06:41.599
said he was going to get to
a foil as quick as possible, but

781
01:06:41.719 --> 01:06:44.519
he wanted to get all the way
daylight, and he wanted to make sure

782
01:06:44.559 --> 01:06:48.760
whatever it wasn't in there. And
he said when he got where he could

783
01:06:48.760 --> 01:06:53.639
see, he said, there's a
branch, a big branch about ten foot

784
01:06:53.760 --> 01:07:00.159
up. He said it was broken
fresh snap. You know how bright fresh

785
01:07:00.239 --> 01:07:05.599
wood is. And he's and so
his first instinct was like, I wonder

786
01:07:05.639 --> 01:07:10.920
when that happened. And then he
and he had just walked from his at

787
01:07:10.920 --> 01:07:15.159
an angle from his four wheeler to
this thing through the field and he looks

788
01:07:15.199 --> 01:07:17.599
over. He's at twenty yards out
in the field. That branch is thrown

789
01:07:17.639 --> 01:07:23.280
out into the field. And he
said, Roger, that was five years

790
01:07:23.280 --> 01:07:25.719
ago, and I haven't been hunting
since, and I'm not going back.

791
01:07:26.239 --> 01:07:32.719
So how do you how do you
explain once again, for something to break

792
01:07:32.760 --> 01:07:35.559
something like that, it has to
have thumbs and it has to be big.

793
01:07:39.519 --> 01:07:43.400
I feel like I'm just I feel
like I'm gushing here, but I've

794
01:07:43.440 --> 01:07:49.719
been inundated with stories over the past
I was three three months maybe, and

795
01:07:49.800 --> 01:07:56.400
he got to the point where it
felt like I was filling up, and

796
01:07:56.480 --> 01:07:59.800
I do want to listen, and
I would say, you share with your

797
01:07:59.800 --> 01:08:02.519
podcast on Twitter or somewhere, and
I'll be like, I gotta listen to

798
01:08:02.559 --> 01:08:04.559
that. I'm gonna share it,
so I'll go back and listen to it.

799
01:08:05.039 --> 01:08:09.679
But there was a point where even
I had to take a break with

800
01:08:09.719 --> 01:08:15.239
Mike helping co host that show because
there was so much information and I'm trying

801
01:08:15.239 --> 01:08:20.359
to filter through what could be real
and what's not. And I got full.

802
01:08:20.479 --> 01:08:28.079
I got I got just weighed down
with it, and then I got

803
01:08:28.079 --> 01:08:30.520
sick and I got the rest.
I got to It's a bad way to

804
01:08:30.560 --> 01:08:34.960
get the rest, but I slept
a lot, and after I got over

805
01:08:35.039 --> 01:08:42.560
that, I'm refreshed. And I
think I'll give some people advice is getting

806
01:08:42.600 --> 01:08:47.079
into this, go to pace,
Go to your own pace, and don't

807
01:08:47.159 --> 01:08:55.720
try to get too much because there
are a lot of theories and then there

808
01:08:55.760 --> 01:09:00.600
are a lot of people that are
or this and they all get upset if

809
01:09:00.640 --> 01:09:09.479
you disagree with them, and some
of it is so unreal. But like

810
01:09:09.560 --> 01:09:14.239
I said, I'm on a podcast
with Jeremiah and I'm telling about this stuff.

811
01:09:14.960 --> 01:09:16.359
And I have even talked about the
ghosts and the orbs and all this

812
01:09:16.399 --> 01:09:20.319
stuff that I've seen in the past, and it makes me. That's why

813
01:09:20.000 --> 01:09:24.640
it makes me think that some of
it may be tied together and it maybe

814
01:09:24.680 --> 01:09:33.640
some of us are without trying more
open things happening. I don't know.

815
01:09:35.199 --> 01:09:44.800
Here's the theory I have now.
The scientists guys, I get them.

816
01:09:44.840 --> 01:09:49.560
But there's some people that you think
about this. I don't know if and

817
01:09:49.640 --> 01:09:56.319
people that are listening think about that. There are people that mean no harm.

818
01:09:56.359 --> 01:09:58.359
If there is a big foot,
they don't want it to be killed,

819
01:09:58.399 --> 01:10:00.840
They don't want it to any harm. They just want understand a lot

820
01:10:00.920 --> 01:10:06.600
of those people seem to have experiences
where you have I know, people that

821
01:10:06.680 --> 01:10:12.560
are mean and would shoot one at
a heartbeat, and they hardly ever have

822
01:10:12.720 --> 01:10:18.800
any of those experiences. So if
they can communicate or know your feelings or

823
01:10:18.840 --> 01:10:21.520
know your thoughts or whatever, then
they would stay away from that person,

824
01:10:21.560 --> 01:10:26.560
I would think. And those are
the people are like, oh, you're

825
01:10:26.600 --> 01:10:30.640
full of it and fire saw one. I would they tell it? They

826
01:10:30.680 --> 01:10:35.720
think they would anyway. But I've
even Mike's encountered he had the safety off,

827
01:10:35.800 --> 01:10:41.840
the crosshairs on his nose and was
scared, and he said he was

828
01:10:41.880 --> 01:10:46.720
about to pull the trigger and there
was too much emotion and more human.

829
01:10:47.720 --> 01:10:55.000
He said it it turned his head
sideways. You better don't do it.

830
01:10:55.079 --> 01:11:00.760
Don't do it, and he said, and this Mike's former military and he

831
01:11:00.800 --> 01:11:04.119
was scared. And he said,
I felt like if I pulled that trigger,

832
01:11:05.760 --> 01:11:09.960
I would partially be killing a human. And then he said, and

833
01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:13.760
I partially was scared that if I
decided to pull the trigger, I might

834
01:11:13.800 --> 01:11:19.800
not make it out of the woods. So what he struggles with it,

835
01:11:19.840 --> 01:11:23.960
but he's a good guy. He's
trying to he's doing his show and he's

836
01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:29.399
trying to get people on so he
can understand. And I think that's I

837
01:11:29.479 --> 01:11:32.680
think that's where a lot of us
come from, as we have had experiences

838
01:11:33.119 --> 01:11:38.000
and we start digging. Like the
guy in the jeep. His son told

839
01:11:38.039 --> 01:11:41.800
me, he said, ever since
that happened to them, he's been everything.

840
01:11:41.840 --> 01:11:44.560
He can watch, everything, he
can read. He talks about it

841
01:11:44.600 --> 01:11:47.880
all the time. And it's not
driving him crazy. It's just he wants

842
01:11:47.880 --> 01:11:55.159
to understand, you know how.
We have questions like one of the one

843
01:11:55.199 --> 01:12:00.319
of the question main questions I have. It's not paring almost not. It's

844
01:12:00.359 --> 01:12:09.359
like how do they take in enough
protein? Be a lot of critters in

845
01:12:09.359 --> 01:12:14.319
one area to support those guys.
Yeah, it's wild. Yeah, and

846
01:12:14.880 --> 01:12:20.840
so they almost have to be what
omnivores exactly. And then you get some

847
01:12:20.880 --> 01:12:25.520
people talk about the whoo part of
it where they're energy and they can come

848
01:12:25.560 --> 01:12:30.960
through portals and who knows. It's
a lot. It's a lot to take

849
01:12:31.039 --> 01:12:35.920
in. It's a lot. And
you're smart in what you said earlier where

850
01:12:35.920 --> 01:12:41.800
it's like, there's so much excuse
me, there's so much in this field

851
01:12:41.920 --> 01:12:46.000
right now that you have to pace
yourself and you it is okay to step

852
01:12:46.039 --> 01:12:50.600
away for a bit if you find
yourself being overwhelmed that it's this smart thing

853
01:12:50.680 --> 01:12:56.920
to do. It's not smart when
you're not aware that needs to be done.

854
01:12:57.279 --> 01:13:00.439
But I do have a few questions
for that come up. While you've

855
01:13:00.439 --> 01:13:08.079
been talking the different the different situations
you've had, have you noticed that these

856
01:13:08.119 --> 01:13:18.600
have all taken place in one county
except for the woman the Yes, there's

857
01:13:18.640 --> 01:13:24.319
one that's close to another county,
depending on what hell you're on. But

858
01:13:24.439 --> 01:13:28.119
yeah, the Marshall County, Tennessee. I'll go ahead and say it because

859
01:13:29.720 --> 01:13:34.960
I've got five or six people right
now that I'm in contact with. How

860
01:13:35.000 --> 01:13:41.039
they're probably a dozen't that's actually told
me, But there's about half a dozen

861
01:13:41.119 --> 01:13:47.800
that we communicate about things that have
happened in the past, and and we

862
01:13:47.960 --> 01:13:53.000
talk about people that we all we've
all known that things have happened to and

863
01:13:53.039 --> 01:13:58.079
then you will forget things. I
have a very good friend. We used

864
01:13:58.119 --> 01:14:01.479
to hang around him. He's lot
older than me. Now he's one of

865
01:14:01.479 --> 01:14:05.880
those macho guys. He's not gonna
say anything to make himself look bad or

866
01:14:05.920 --> 01:14:14.479
crazy. His dad has passed away, but he I would believe anything to

867
01:14:14.479 --> 01:14:16.439
come out of his mouth. It's
just because the type of person he was.

868
01:14:17.359 --> 01:14:25.279
And he wasn't kin to me,
but he gave me advice. He

869
01:14:25.319 --> 01:14:32.039
was just no frills country guy that
had great listening skills. He would listen

870
01:14:32.079 --> 01:14:36.600
to you if he thought he needed
to say something, he would if he

871
01:14:36.600 --> 01:14:41.600
he wouldn't bud into your business.
And he was just a good man.

872
01:14:41.920 --> 01:14:50.199
And so when Matt told me the
story, I was about nine. But

873
01:14:50.279 --> 01:14:56.520
then when Eddie, his dad told
me, he heard all of it and

874
01:14:56.600 --> 01:14:59.439
he saw Matt running and he's never
seen him that scared in his life.

875
01:14:59.439 --> 01:15:03.520
He was about thirteen or fourteen.
But what happened in that situation mac hunting

876
01:15:03.560 --> 01:15:09.359
defence line up behind their house and
he had a single shot at twenty gage.

877
01:15:11.520 --> 01:15:14.359
He hunted everything with it back then, and he would crawl up,

878
01:15:14.399 --> 01:15:18.720
he climb up in this hackberry tree
and get out on this limb and sit

879
01:15:18.800 --> 01:15:25.279
there. And he said he saw
some movement coming along the woods line,

880
01:15:25.399 --> 01:15:27.760
which there's a little grass out there
in the field. It wasn't a big

881
01:15:27.800 --> 01:15:31.279
field. And first thing, any
thing, do you're come in turkey something?

882
01:15:32.479 --> 01:15:39.039
And he said, and that's another
thing. People, there's some people

883
01:15:39.079 --> 01:15:42.760
that can't get out, and I
understand that, and they want to know

884
01:15:42.880 --> 01:15:46.600
things. So this is why I
put little tidbits in like this. People

885
01:15:46.640 --> 01:15:49.159
that have been out in the woods
or been around farm animals, or been

886
01:15:49.199 --> 01:15:55.399
around been out even a zookeeper or
somebody that studies all that. They can

887
01:15:55.439 --> 01:15:59.239
see an animal from a long distance
and tell you what it is by the

888
01:15:59.279 --> 01:16:03.680
way it's moving, by the it's
gaged, by its bouncing, its smoothness,

889
01:16:04.720 --> 01:16:11.359
a cat back of being certain ways, the colties of prance a little

890
01:16:11.399 --> 01:16:15.439
bit, and they're lighter on their
feet than a wolf. And yeah,

891
01:16:15.479 --> 01:16:21.560
it's just so you identify things pretty
fast. He said. The first thing

892
01:16:21.600 --> 01:16:27.359
he noticed was it was something about
four and a half to five foot tall,

893
01:16:28.199 --> 01:16:31.399
and it was moving, but it
was doing this. He said.

894
01:16:31.399 --> 01:16:36.479
The head was side to side and
it was hunkered over and he what is

895
01:16:36.520 --> 01:16:41.520
that? Because now this guy,
he's been around all these animals. First

896
01:16:41.520 --> 01:16:43.439
thing he sees it, he don't
know what it is, so he's trying

897
01:16:43.439 --> 01:16:47.000
to identify. It's getting closer to
him. But the wind is coming from

898
01:16:47.039 --> 01:16:53.560
behind mac to a certain point up
in the woods. This thing is coming

899
01:16:53.560 --> 01:16:57.720
around and hasn't got to that point
where it could wind him yet, and

900
01:16:57.720 --> 01:17:00.880
it's focused on the edge of the
woods, he said. Then he gets

901
01:17:00.880 --> 01:17:04.279
a good look at it as it
gets closer. He said it was four

902
01:17:04.319 --> 01:17:06.520
and a half five foot tall.
He said it looked like a monkey,

903
01:17:06.920 --> 01:17:12.560
and said the hair was clumped,
greasy and clumped, and tufts where you

904
01:17:12.600 --> 01:17:19.520
could see skin under And he said
that's when he got really scared, and

905
01:17:19.640 --> 01:17:23.199
so he got his gun up and
read. But he wasn't gonna make a

906
01:17:23.239 --> 01:17:27.960
noise. He's just gonna let it
pass by it and that was his instinct,

907
01:17:28.000 --> 01:17:30.600
just to stay still and let it
go, he said. When it

908
01:17:30.640 --> 01:17:32.920
got he said, I knew the
wind was behind me, and I'm thought,

909
01:17:32.920 --> 01:17:38.199
oh, no, and he said
it got to that point and it

910
01:17:38.359 --> 01:17:41.680
threw its nose up in there,
sniffed a few times, and he said

911
01:17:41.720 --> 01:17:44.560
when it turned and looked, it
locked eyes with him, and it showed

912
01:17:44.560 --> 01:17:47.039
its teeth. And now back then, I didn't know whether to ask if

913
01:17:47.039 --> 01:17:51.600
it had canines or whatever. I'm
just listening to the story. So he

914
01:17:51.640 --> 01:17:57.119
said it it snarled, and it
like it made it mad, and it

915
01:17:57.239 --> 01:18:00.039
said it came to him and it
was making some noise it is. I

916
01:18:00.079 --> 01:18:05.399
don't remember what noises he said it
made. But he said, I'm thinking,

917
01:18:05.640 --> 01:18:10.640
can I get down on this tree
and get home before this? We're

918
01:18:10.640 --> 01:18:18.359
talking forty yards and he made the
decision that he couldn't now what happens next.

919
01:18:18.439 --> 01:18:23.720
He said he felt bad about it, but he was forced into it,

920
01:18:23.760 --> 01:18:26.720
he thought, he said. He
pulled the gun up and he put

921
01:18:26.760 --> 01:18:30.600
it on the chest and squeezed the
trigger and he heard it thump. He

922
01:18:30.680 --> 01:18:34.680
said it it started rolling. He
grabbed his chest, started screaming and rolling.

923
01:18:34.760 --> 01:18:39.359
He said it sounded like a monkey. Now it could have been I

924
01:18:39.399 --> 01:18:42.680
don't know what it was. But
he got down. He's running now.

925
01:18:42.680 --> 01:18:45.439
He's built like me. I'm a
bigger guy. One of us running.

926
01:18:45.560 --> 01:18:51.640
Don't ask any questions, try to
beat us. But so he's running,

927
01:18:53.760 --> 01:18:56.920
and he said, he takes a
single shot, puts one in it,

928
01:18:56.960 --> 01:19:01.159
and throws it over the back and
fires recklessly back that way, puts another

929
01:19:01.159 --> 01:19:05.720
one in it. Yeah, And
so he gets to the fence. He's

930
01:19:05.840 --> 01:19:10.079
trying to get his fat tail over
the fence, and his daddy's what is

931
01:19:10.119 --> 01:19:14.159
going on? He said, I
just shot him. Look and he said,

932
01:19:14.159 --> 01:19:15.600
you could hear it screaming. Eddie
said, I could hear it screaming.

933
01:19:16.039 --> 01:19:18.800
It's just right by in the house. And he said, boy,

934
01:19:18.880 --> 01:19:23.359
let's get in the house. And
they didn't. They never went up there

935
01:19:23.520 --> 01:19:31.960
to see. Now, that's that's
not as a crow flies three miles from

936
01:19:31.960 --> 01:19:35.560
where I saw mine, But it
was a lot bigger. But going back

937
01:19:35.600 --> 01:19:44.680
to that sighting, there was a
limb that came out. How it came

938
01:19:44.720 --> 01:19:48.319
out over the field and drooped down
and curved back up. This thing walked

939
01:19:48.359 --> 01:19:51.840
when it stopped, it was under
this right. So I told my dad,

940
01:19:51.880 --> 01:19:55.880
I said, Daddy, it was
almost as tall as that limb.

941
01:19:55.920 --> 01:19:59.840
I said, it was about six
or eight inches under that limb. Top

942
01:19:59.840 --> 01:20:02.359
of the head was as that couldn't
have been Beautford. He said, there's

943
01:20:02.399 --> 01:20:05.119
no way. You know how far
up that is. I said, yeah,

944
01:20:05.119 --> 01:20:09.159
I do. I saw. We
went up there with the tape measure

945
01:20:09.600 --> 01:20:14.520
and whatever it was had to be
around seven a half foot tall, so

946
01:20:14.840 --> 01:20:17.199
we did get a measurement. We
were and he was questioning, and he

947
01:20:17.279 --> 01:20:20.039
said, but he kept saying,
there's no way, there's no way.

948
01:20:20.720 --> 01:20:26.960
And like I said, I've seen
him walk and he was five eight ish,

949
01:20:27.000 --> 01:20:30.560
and I knew what he looked like
up there, and this thing broke

950
01:20:30.640 --> 01:20:36.359
him an ass. But anyway,
I wished, God, I wished I

951
01:20:36.439 --> 01:20:42.880
had known. Maybe I don't,
but I wished I had known what to

952
01:20:42.880 --> 01:20:45.479
look for. I wished I had
known. Like the other night, we

953
01:20:45.520 --> 01:20:48.800
had a quiet night. What there
wasn't a lot going on. We had

954
01:20:48.840 --> 01:20:56.159
some barred owls back and forth.
And some people say sometimes they get mimicked

955
01:20:56.159 --> 01:21:00.079
by whatever I have. We can
do calls like that with a mouth and

956
01:21:00.159 --> 01:21:04.720
will sometimes when he gets quiet,
we'll start and we'll get them active,

957
01:21:05.079 --> 01:21:10.079
just to get something going on.
But then you will hear some strange stuff,

958
01:21:10.479 --> 01:21:13.520
like a barred out of this on
the ground. You know, it

959
01:21:13.560 --> 01:21:17.640
doesn't sound exactly like a bird.
But I don't know, but there you

960
01:21:17.720 --> 01:21:24.439
go. You put all the things
that happened together and it makes a little

961
01:21:24.479 --> 01:21:27.880
more sense that it could be something
like that. But so I did.

962
01:21:29.319 --> 01:21:33.920
I realized that I haven't done anything
to get any responses, and I said,

963
01:21:33.960 --> 01:21:41.399
hey, so let's go back.
So we had frogs making their noises,

964
01:21:41.520 --> 01:21:45.800
we had whipper wheel or whatever,
a bird it was going nuts.

965
01:21:47.199 --> 01:21:53.319
We had some sounds going on and
just listening, and then he got quiet,

966
01:21:53.600 --> 01:21:58.119
just you know how it happened.
Sometimes when a predator comes in,

967
01:21:59.239 --> 01:22:03.000
it could be collages, whatever,
mountains, whatever to just get quiet.

968
01:22:03.039 --> 01:22:06.479
But I wasn't really thinking that.
And like I said, I don't know

969
01:22:06.520 --> 01:22:10.039
what this was, but I'm like, you know what this big? Good

970
01:22:10.079 --> 01:22:12.840
time to I told my wife and
said, I'm gonna I'm gonna do three

971
01:22:12.880 --> 01:22:16.359
clouds out the window. Let's listen
to her hearing. I have to be

972
01:22:16.399 --> 01:22:21.000
careful. I can't mumble under my
breath because she she can hear birds breaking

973
01:22:21.079 --> 01:22:28.520
seeds in her bird feeder. And
she's a good one to have with you

974
01:22:28.560 --> 01:22:33.159
if you need a warning. But
so I did. I did three loud

975
01:22:33.399 --> 01:22:42.800
clouds and quit. I didn't hear
anything, and she she turned and she

976
01:22:42.880 --> 01:22:46.000
said, you just got to clap
back over here. I said, wait

977
01:22:46.000 --> 01:22:50.840
a minute, hand cloud? She
said, yeah, yeah, how many

978
01:22:50.920 --> 01:22:58.560
she did was just one? And
I don't know. I know, I

979
01:22:58.640 --> 01:23:04.119
do know that there's nobody out there. And if she tells me it was

980
01:23:04.159 --> 01:23:10.840
a handcloup, I'm gonna go with
her hearing. But after that happened,

981
01:23:12.199 --> 01:23:15.680
there was some strange sounds that she
couldn't identify. But it wasn't a lot.

982
01:23:16.199 --> 01:23:20.640
But we say that's not a lot
because we've had so much happened at

983
01:23:20.680 --> 01:23:25.880
times that you just get a response
back. I don't know what that could

984
01:23:25.880 --> 01:23:30.840
be. I don't know what could
clap other than a person. But anyway,

985
01:23:30.920 --> 01:23:33.600
Yeah, and there's so much more. I don't I could go on.

986
01:23:35.560 --> 01:23:42.159
Roger Marshall County is having some things
go on, that's for sure.

987
01:23:42.600 --> 01:23:50.039
Yeah, I do want to ask
real quick. I keep coming back in

988
01:23:50.119 --> 01:23:55.279
my mind. We take it was
a while back we were talking about how

989
01:23:55.319 --> 01:24:00.520
your son was hunting and he heard
what he thought was a monkey found in

990
01:24:00.560 --> 01:24:04.279
the woods. Have you guys been
ever been back to that area? Yes,

991
01:24:05.319 --> 01:24:10.039
we I've got a video. I've
got that. My YouTube page is

992
01:24:10.119 --> 01:24:13.600
not a whole lot on it.
Okay, cool, it's not, and

993
01:24:14.079 --> 01:24:17.640
we took up. We didn't walk
about. Oh wow. And it takes

994
01:24:17.640 --> 01:24:21.520
a while because of the ridges,
and you know, I'm not an athlete,

995
01:24:21.600 --> 01:24:30.439
so we have to take time,
and we went behind. This was

996
01:24:30.520 --> 01:24:36.239
just I'm gonna say this was two
two and a half months ago, because

997
01:24:36.479 --> 01:24:41.119
after I had done I had told
my story and it's just a couple of

998
01:24:41.159 --> 01:24:44.600
weeks in. I thought it would
be fun to get some video and show

999
01:24:44.640 --> 01:24:47.079
people where where we were at.
So I said, here's what we want

1000
01:24:47.079 --> 01:24:49.479
to do. I said, First
of all, we're not gonna be quiet,

1001
01:24:49.479 --> 01:24:53.920
because I don't want to slip up
on anything. I want everything to

1002
01:24:53.960 --> 01:24:58.800
know we're here. The second thing, I want to go behind that clump

1003
01:24:58.920 --> 01:25:04.159
of cedar tree where the rock came
from, to see how something could have

1004
01:25:04.159 --> 01:25:08.720
got gotten away or hid from us, or where it could have been standing.

1005
01:25:10.960 --> 01:25:15.800
And another thing, I said,
where you heard He said it was

1006
01:25:15.840 --> 01:25:24.359
like a monkey gorilla. He said
it was a classic build up and said

1007
01:25:24.399 --> 01:25:27.800
and whatever. And so I said, we're gonna go back on top of

1008
01:25:27.840 --> 01:25:31.640
that ridge and we're gonna look over
and see what's there. And he's got

1009
01:25:31.680 --> 01:25:36.399
a you know, I'm fifty two. I don't I'm not totally out of

1010
01:25:36.399 --> 01:25:41.840
the tech stuff. He draws them. This app up, it does exactly

1011
01:25:41.840 --> 01:25:45.000
where we're at, who owns what, and where the houses are on X

1012
01:25:45.199 --> 01:25:47.279
and I'm like, I used that
too. It's it is, it is

1013
01:25:48.159 --> 01:25:53.159
how far something is? Yeah,
and who it's and what scary is?

1014
01:25:53.279 --> 01:25:59.720
I believe it has the owner's phone
number here. It's pretty intense. Yeah,

1015
01:26:00.039 --> 01:26:03.520
intense. So we Yeah, we
did go back there and we looked

1016
01:26:03.560 --> 01:26:09.880
off the ridge to where it could
have been, and as far as we

1017
01:26:09.880 --> 01:26:15.119
could see, you would see a
speck of white here there houses just sparsely

1018
01:26:15.199 --> 01:26:19.279
through this valley, and then another
ridge way over there and just nothing,

1019
01:26:20.359 --> 01:26:30.920
just nothing, and the behind the
cedar trees. I don't see how whatever

1020
01:26:30.960 --> 01:26:35.119
it was it had to stay put. I don't see how with the terrain

1021
01:26:35.279 --> 01:26:41.119
and the leaves, and though I
think it would have exposed itself. And

1022
01:26:41.119 --> 01:26:45.319
then maybe that's why through a rockets
it was last resort. We were getting

1023
01:26:45.319 --> 01:26:50.359
close and if we had walked fifteen
more yards or twenty more yards, we

1024
01:26:50.479 --> 01:26:54.960
might have seen something we might not
want to do. But so maybe we

1025
01:26:55.039 --> 01:27:01.640
pressured it to do that, to
have that response without knowing so it would

1026
01:27:01.640 --> 01:27:06.760
have had to it would have a
pretty long run up the hill or anybody

1027
01:27:06.880 --> 01:27:11.039
that was back there, so it
didn't have an escape route. So that's

1028
01:27:11.039 --> 01:27:13.760
what I was telling Peyton. I'm
like, we may have pressured it into

1029
01:27:13.840 --> 01:27:17.119
doing that. And then but once
you get up on top of the ridge,

1030
01:27:17.159 --> 01:27:23.640
you can be and some of these
hollows really fast. You know,

1031
01:27:23.720 --> 01:27:28.279
you could get some distance between you
if it was if it was a person.

1032
01:27:28.399 --> 01:27:30.399
And especially like deer, we know
that we know how they do,

1033
01:27:30.479 --> 01:27:35.079
so it makes it just makes sense
that any animal would use the ridges in

1034
01:27:35.119 --> 01:27:47.199
the same way. He still goes
by himself. Sometimes it's just it worries

1035
01:27:47.319 --> 01:27:58.239
me, even though I'm confident that
he'll do the right thing and he's learning

1036
01:27:59.800 --> 01:28:08.039
that you don't just shoot first.
We had that scary We had that scary

1037
01:28:08.079 --> 01:28:11.039
thing happened, and when I started, I said, clear your mind.

1038
01:28:11.359 --> 01:28:15.000
He actually set his rifle down.
I didn't tell him to. He just

1039
01:28:15.800 --> 01:28:23.680
some reason he set it down and
did his hands like this, And I

1040
01:28:23.720 --> 01:28:30.760
guess we're so in tune. But
anyway, he's heard some strange noises and

1041
01:28:30.800 --> 01:28:32.560
stuff. But like I said,
we talked about it and said, I

1042
01:28:32.560 --> 01:28:35.479
said, have you ever felt threatened? He said no, and Kevin,

1043
01:28:35.560 --> 01:28:40.520
my buddy that saw the one trying
to get the calf. He made a

1044
01:28:40.560 --> 01:28:45.880
comment it wroung true. Somebody asked
him on the show. They're like,

1045
01:28:47.000 --> 01:28:50.279
or did it keep you from going
hunting? Did it keep you from going

1046
01:28:50.359 --> 01:28:54.720
fishing? Did it scare you?
Did it? He said, he's just

1047
01:28:55.319 --> 01:28:58.560
he's more country than I am.
If you can believe that, he said,

1048
01:28:59.600 --> 01:29:02.840
well, I figured it. If
he's there what I saw it,

1049
01:29:03.000 --> 01:29:08.399
he's always been there and he's never
bothered me before. Of course he's saying

1050
01:29:08.439 --> 01:29:12.199
he because we all think big foot, right, And he said, so,

1051
01:29:12.439 --> 01:29:15.319
I don't let it bother me because
if he wanted to get me,

1052
01:29:15.359 --> 01:29:18.000
he could have got me that day
because I was right there. Sure,

1053
01:29:18.039 --> 01:29:21.800
So you know that, and that's
comforting. Now you get to talk into

1054
01:29:21.840 --> 01:29:25.439
some of these people with the dog
men and stuff like. Then you get

1055
01:29:25.439 --> 01:29:30.520
on a totally different that saddle up
partners when you start in, Yeah,

1056
01:29:30.600 --> 01:29:33.399
I mean you can go down,
you can go far down the road.

1057
01:29:33.560 --> 01:29:39.880
Roger, you're aware of that.
It's not just big foot. But man,

1058
01:29:39.960 --> 01:29:45.039
this has been a enjoyable chat.
And you guys got some stuff going

1059
01:29:45.079 --> 01:29:53.680
on down in Marshall County County Tennessee, and I'm definitely gonna be keeping up

1060
01:29:53.720 --> 01:29:57.479
to date with you. Roger,
help, can do you mind sharing a

1061
01:29:57.520 --> 01:30:01.680
few taking a few messes? How
people can keep up to date with what

1062
01:30:01.840 --> 01:30:05.439
you got going on? Also,
if they're like, man, I've got

1063
01:30:05.520 --> 01:30:09.920
something that happened in Marshall County,
Tennessee, how can they get in touch

1064
01:30:09.960 --> 01:30:12.560
with you? It sounds like they
need to let you know. Well,

1065
01:30:12.640 --> 01:30:15.560
I set up an email like all
of us dudes. Yeah, you want

1066
01:30:15.560 --> 01:30:23.279
to keep it separate from your other
your business, but it's squatching Hollard.

1067
01:30:24.119 --> 01:30:29.199
That's without a G and that's O
L E R. And that's at gmail

1068
01:30:29.279 --> 01:30:35.319
dot com. I wanted something to
be memorable and so that Squatching Hollard could

1069
01:30:35.359 --> 01:30:40.520
be anywhere. So yeah, if
you have anything, I'd be glad to

1070
01:30:40.640 --> 01:30:45.359
listen. If you're in this area. Even we're not far from Moore County,

1071
01:30:45.399 --> 01:30:51.000
which is where Jack Daniels is.
There there are ridges when you can

1072
01:30:51.000 --> 01:30:58.760
get on these ridges and go forever, and people like Davy is it Davy

1073
01:30:58.800 --> 01:31:01.239
Crockett, Yeah, Davy crocket It
just over not far from here where he

1074
01:31:01.600 --> 01:31:05.479
lived on Bean Creek. And there's
a lot of history in this area.

1075
01:31:05.640 --> 01:31:12.279
And you know a lot of Native
American mounds that people really don't know about.

1076
01:31:12.720 --> 01:31:19.079
Yeah, one of our favorite pastimes
when somebody would work the ground up

1077
01:31:19.119 --> 01:31:23.239
for tobacco or whatever with kids,
it would rain and we would go just

1078
01:31:23.279 --> 01:31:27.279
fill our pockets with our heads,
you know. And there's so much history

1079
01:31:27.479 --> 01:31:32.960
in this area. And I just
did not know that there was big Foot

1080
01:31:33.079 --> 01:31:39.840
history. Yeah, like I said, I've probably I could probably come up

1081
01:31:39.880 --> 01:31:42.880
with a half a dozen more pretty
cool stories. But I know we've been

1082
01:31:42.920 --> 01:31:45.199
on a while, so he's probably
write a pretty good book too. Roger

1083
01:31:46.680 --> 01:31:50.479
just saying, but hey, I'll
just put that out there. But it's

1084
01:31:50.520 --> 01:31:55.239
been fun chatting with Yeah, I'm
I'm gonna be keeping tabs on you,

1085
01:31:55.359 --> 01:31:58.800
like I said, And I think
we'll be chatting some sometime in the future

1086
01:31:58.840 --> 01:32:01.760
too, maybe because up with you. If I get any video or pictures

1087
01:32:01.800 --> 01:32:05.760
or anything that I can share it
to the Facebook group right or you.

1088
01:32:05.920 --> 01:32:15.000
Yeah, whatever I've got anything,
I will send you the what people have

1089
01:32:15.000 --> 01:32:20.840
said. The cloaking, now,
it could be it's freaky because I've seen

1090
01:32:23.479 --> 01:32:26.279
I just had to send it to
you. It blew my mind, It

1091
01:32:26.279 --> 01:32:30.319
blew my son's mind. The game
boarding, and I've had people who are

1092
01:32:30.319 --> 01:32:32.520
on the woo side of it,
So I explaining what the energy and all

1093
01:32:32.520 --> 01:32:36.880
this stuff and how they supposed supposedly
cloak. I just all I know is

1094
01:32:38.479 --> 01:32:45.319
when I saw the picture the screenshot, nobody had seen that yet, and

1095
01:32:46.359 --> 01:32:49.239
I'm gonna say I freaked out.
I just I just like, man,

1096
01:32:49.319 --> 01:32:51.439
I don't know, I don't know
what's going on here, but I'll send

1097
01:32:51.479 --> 01:32:55.760
that to you and all right,
Yeah, I really appreciate you, know,

1098
01:32:55.880 --> 01:33:00.560
because it helps. And anybody out
there, if Jeremiah text you want

1099
01:33:00.600 --> 01:33:03.279
you to tell your story, don't
be bashful. We're all here. We're

1100
01:33:03.319 --> 01:33:08.880
here for you. It helps,
It helps you feel better. And if

1101
01:33:08.880 --> 01:33:13.960
you're in Marshall County, Tennessee or
somewhere else, your friends might not even

1102
01:33:15.079 --> 01:33:19.840
hear this, but help him out
share it. You share the podcast with

1103
01:33:19.960 --> 01:33:24.439
everybody, because you never know what
kind of stories you're going to hear from

1104
01:33:24.439 --> 01:33:27.560
your friends that they were scared to
tell you that. Man, that's great.

1105
01:33:27.600 --> 01:33:30.960
Thank you, Roger. I appreciate
that. And man, keep doing

1106
01:33:31.039 --> 01:33:34.840
a good work, And thank you
so much for hanging out tonight. Roger.

1107
01:33:35.000 --> 01:33:38.560
Oh it's been fun. I'm just
glad we finally got to do it,

1108
01:33:39.720 --> 01:33:44.880
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1109
01:33:44.920 --> 01:33:47.640
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1110
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1111
01:33:51.199 --> 01:33:57.399
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1112
01:33:57.479 --> 01:34:01.359
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1113
01:34:01.399 --> 01:34:09.239
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1114
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1121
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1122
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1123
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1124
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