Child Witness Encounters Bigfoot in Henderson, Kentucky and Finds Unexpected Protection

0:00 You're listening to Big the Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. So settle in because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us, all right, Big the Society. You've got the privilege of talking to Ray today. Raise an individual that has some experiences to share from down there in Henderson, Kentucky. Down and we were just talking about it could be called the Ohio River Valley. One might say, there's a lot of activity down there that's been shared over the years on the show. Ray, Welcome to the show.

0:53 How are you doing today, sir? Doing good? Jeremiah, thank you, thank you for having me on the show here today. Absolutely, this is an interesting area. I'm trying to get my map up to date as quick as I can, and I know, for example, it's clear it's near Spotsville, which that's where the Spotsville Monster was reported. Yes, I had a conversation with that guy that his family that had that actual incident back over there back in the seventies, and come to find out, in nineteen seventy five, the exact year they had their problems with Bigfoot.

1:40 I had my encounter on the other side of the river and didn't know anything about this up until this year. Really, Oh, that's a weird, weird thing. We didn't plan to talk about there and just all work together. Well, Ray, yeah, tell us about it. This sounds really interesting. Yeah, I know everybody knows about that Spotsville deal where most people do. That's pretty famous deal with that guy that nne leaves them family down there in Spotsville where I think it was like eleven month long situation where they had they were terrorized literally by this this boot foot eating all their animals and et cetera down there, And I had absolutely no clue. Here, I'm on the other side of the Green River there and not very far from these people, and here I had my own experience, and back then I was seven years old, so that would be fifty years today, basically when this happened, and Jeremiah, what had happened is I was raised there on the farm for a big part of my life there with my grandparents and my uncle, and my grandfather brought in a lot of animals and raised them. He had cattle, he had hogs, he had a few horses. And what had happened is I lived down there in Kentucky and

3:13 the Bluff City, and there in Bluff City it's just as small could be. And one day my grandfather, at the age of seven, he had a horse trailer to come in on the farm, and a man showed him a horse, and anyways, they bargained and my grandfather ended up buying this new horse. The best of my recollection, it was in the evening, but it wasn't like dark. It was probably around four or five in the evening, and remembered all of us was a standing around, and I told my grandfather I was just being a kid. I said, I want to sit on the horse. I said, please, let me sit on the horse. And my grandfather was hesitant with not knowing anything about the animal, but he noticed the animal seemed to be pretty gentle, and he said, he said, he says, I'll tell you what he says.

4:08 We'll stand here beside him and we'll make sure everything's all right, and we'll set him up on this horse, which being me there. And so they set me up on the back of this horse. And my grandfather, thank god, he told me this. He said, now hold on to his mange there, being his hair there. And I said okay. And so back up on the road which was parallel to the Green River. There we had a neighbor down the road and he had he had been going down the road in an odor for a truck and broke down right out in front of our house. And he had went and he walked and he got his family to come back and meeting there the truck and trying to get this thing to turn over. While I'm sitting up on this horse. They turned this this old truck over, and when they did, it backfired and it was loud, and they thing, I know, it spooked this horse so bad he took off. He broke loose from where my grandfather, my uncle, et cetera, was took off running down. My grandfather's got a thirty three acre farm there in I had never in all my life, Jeremiah, have been so scared.

5:35 No bridle, no saddle. No. I'd never been on a horse till that day, and I held on for dear life when that horse's mange and he took off. It just a hard run. And there at the end of the property and back there they have all this barbed wire fence that the farmers put up to divide their lenbs. And this horse ran until that bob bar fence showed up, and when he knew he couldn't go any further, he come at a dead halt and he throwed me over this fence and into a big sticker bush or what we call briar bush. And man, I was in all kinds of pain. It wasn't from so much as the throw, but those stickers. I was all up and caught up in the middle of them, et cetera, and the hair I'm trying to get free from it. Crying. I was just I couldn't stop crying. And I think a little bit of the trauma of the horse and that situation, and then on top of that, and so it was it was something to really deal with. And all of the sudden when you go over this fence. There is a woodline that was just lead little over to the right,

7:06 and I looked up and I seen something huge now taken remembering here at age of seven, I never even heard the word bigfoot. I have never heard of such a thing in my life. My grandma and grandpa and them, I was lucky if I ave got to see TV. Back at that time, all we did was work on the farm. There was just no time for no television. And my grandfather and them never talked about such things to me. So I looked up and it wasn't this far.

7:47 It wasn't that far from me, that woodline, and this huge what looked like an animal but walking on two feet at a distance, starts coming my way. And this thing is huge, I'd say seven seven and a half foot tall. When I was and I'm going to tell you how I compare this. When I was a child, I got to visit Evans Woe, Indiana wrestling Colin sum there and I don't know how many people in time remembered the wrestler called Andre the Giant, but Andre the Giant was huge. I got the opportunity as a child to go and visit this and he lifted up eight children and I was one of them, put four on one arm and four on another, and lifted us up dead up in the air like we were nothing. Now, Andre is about the size of what this creature was that I seen. And this is a scary sight when someone sees something this big. And this thing started walking towards me, Jeremiah, the shocking thing was. And here I was laying there, crying, trying to get these sticker bushes out of them, and trying to get out of them

9:18 and et cetera. And the bigfoot comes up to me, notices I'm crying, bends down, squats down, and folds out, and I'm gonna tell you it was a sheep. This thing had breast, But this looked like an odor. I don't know if you want to call it, whatever you wanna call it. It looked like an oldor animal because the breast and everything, and the animal looked like I had a lot of wrinkles. So this looked like an animal that's been around for quite a some time. But did them two hands out as if to say, let me help you. It didn't. Now, I've heard people say that these things can speak to you. Mine to mind, are to epathically, etc. And I'll be honest with you, I never thought about that until here recently, and a friend of mine asked me about this and said, did you hear or did you feel or did you feel like that this thing's setting? I said absolutely. I said there was something that was said to me, but it wasn't by verbal. I said, it came in my head, I said, and I could hear it loud and clear.

10:43 He said, what did it say? I said, I, without a doubt heard these words. Don't be afraid. I'm not here to hurt you. I just want to help you through all this crying and through all of that. And this thing was probably five six foot away from me, And I won't lie to you. Most people would have probably passed out or whatever at the sight of this. But when this thing spoke to me like this and I had a piece, I can't explain it to you. There's just no way to explain it. But had a piece to come over me, It's like I felt like, Okay, this is gonna be okay. But yet I did not reach my arms out. Still was not at that place to where I was comfortable to let something like this get a hold of me. So all of a sudden I heard my grandfather and my uncle yelling. And now they were at the other end of the field, and they were on horseback. You couldn't see them at that point, but you could hear them. So I knew more in life from that. I had about five minutes before I would be seeing them if they kept coming the way they were coming. When I heard them, this female slowly

12:16 stood up and watched me. She never took her eyes off of me. Now I noticed that her face didn't have a whole lot of hair, but everything about this thing did have a lot of hair. The front part of the animal was a red to an orange looking color of the hair. But what was strange it was the backside was solid jet black. I guess it's just like anything when something is born. Things are just different in their DNA. And she had huge hands and feet, and I noticed there was a big difference in the gap between the big toe and the toe beside it.

13:12 And when this thing stood up and started to walk back towards the wood line, it was as quiet as anything you had ever heard. You would have thought this thing would have snapped and crackled all of the branches and everything that was there and around. No. I absolutely this thing had this thing down. It could walk, it could get through, and it was quick. I noticed that it went back into this woodline, but it stood beside a couple of trees, peeking out and watching as if to almost say, I'm watching to make sure you're gonna be okay. And it wasn't very long. I don't know how many minutes, but it wasn't long. My grandfather and my uncle showed up on my horses, and they came across the fence and they got me, and they carried me back across, put me on the horse, and started to head back. I never told them what I had seen.

14:31 The one thing was I knew that my grandfather he had a pretty mean streak in me, and this animal, I noticed, just did not have. From what I could see, this thing had much much opportunity to grab me and could have did anything it wanted with me. I was totally helpless there. But this animal did not do this, and I thought, I don't want my grandfather trying to pull out any kind of weapons and coming down here to hunt this thing. So I thought, I'm not going to say anything. I don't want my grandfather trying to kill this. So I noticed it as we were going back in the first part of the run back on the horses there, that this female stood out a little bit on the back side of the tree just like she was. And the more further we went out, the more she would come out from behind the tree, and she watched me as we rode off. And then we got back to the farm and everything resumed. But there was a lot of things over the years, Jeremiah, I've seen her off and on over the years. They was one time my grandfather had a man made dug pond

16:06 back there, and we always fished in the Green River there, which was that place where we talked about the Spotsville Monster on the other side, and we would catch huge catfish and we would cut them loose back there in this pond that we hit and we had eventually we had a huge bunch of catfish back there for people that visited to come down there and catch some fish and take them home with them. One day I was out there and I was in a little bitty boat and my uncle was with me, but he was backed up on the hill a little bit and almost out of this is, but just not one hundred percent. And what he was doing was he was fixing some of the barbedire fence back up in there that divided the properties.

17:04 And this boat I was in turned over and again. This is around the age of eight at this one. And around that time I thought I was going drowned. In God's honest truth, I remember going under, getting mouthful of water, and the next thing I know, it just didn't I was looking up. I don't know if this animal helped me or what, but I looked up Jeremiah, and I noticed I was being pulled to the shore.

17:44 And when I looked up, I seen this same teamail heading back out the backside the opposite from where my uncle was at. Now she was not able to be seen by him because of the way the land was formed, and was to say, my uncle was like on the other side of the hill of that place. And I cannot tell you I seen her do anything. It's just all I know is I felt myself being pulled and my arm grabbed a hold of the root off of a tree that was right there on the land there, And all I could tell you is I seen her walking away, heading up onto the backside. Now was it her that pulled me or what happened? I don't know.

18:41 I honestly can't give you the truth of what happened there because it just in the middle of halfway drowning and then fulling, like I was being pulled. And then the last thing I know is my hand I had grabbed, had a hold of these roots coming up out of this tree going into the water. I just know that I was safe, But I do remember seeing this thing going and taking off back on the other side, and she was in a hurry on this one, in a big hurry. She must have felt like that there was a bit of danger with my uncle being on the other side of the hill. There we had I told you my grandfather had raised cattle and hogs and all that on the farm. There. There came a time where the cattle was never bothered, which is amazing. But the hogs we started noticing that they started to go missing.

19:46 You never heard anything at night. Now, my grandfather had and this is what's something I didn't understand. My grandfather had them. If you could imagine, this is an old thing and they may do this today, but I don't know. I've been on the farm for a long time. But what he had was like a little bit of an electric fence going around, and what he used was these old jar tops and he'd drill a hole in it, and then he would tie it on to the electric fence and do this all the way around, so that when the pigs would try to go through or in between those pieces of the electric fence, they'd hit those jar tops and they'd shock them, so it kept them in.

20:37 My grandfather didn't he didn't ever turn this fence off unless he was going in there to feed them. And how was this thing entering in and stealing these pigs and coming back out without us hearing the animals squilling or any thinking about the other factors that you had that electric fence going on. How did this thing get through and back out without any type of noise is beyond me now. My grandfather and my uncle, I remember one morning we were going out to feed the animals, and we did early in the morning, and I noticed my uncle and my grandfather always hid things from me when they could, and they were looking out there beside where the hogs were, and they were talking about another hog being missing. There was a huge footprint and it looked like some man that didn't have his shoes on, as you see the toes and everything had walked through there.

21:57 And my grandfather and my uncle trying to keep it down, but I could hear everything, and they were talking amongst himself and said, what in the world is this? Remember my grandfather and my uncle both putting their feet up beside the print that they seen, and this thing was way bigger than it swallowed their feet up like it was nothing. And remember my grandfather of telling my uncle, he said, he said, don't let ray. He said, whatever, you don't, let Ray come back here alone. So my uncle did pretty good job of Dad kept good eye on me. And I guess is a couple of years after that, Jeremiah, my uncle took me back in the field, way back there, and we were going to go back there and do little deer hunting. And it was later in the evening and we crossed over into territory he had never been into. Now there was all of these head or tombstones. It looked like it was a family that had been there for I know this. There was World War two tombstones there a couple of them, and then now most of them were broke and just laying there, but you could still read them. And one of them

23:30 said Lieutenant something and the other said private something, but the rest of them looked like just normal tombstones with just people's names. And my uncle was just he's as long as we have lived here, he says, I have never seen these back here, he said. But then again, I haven't really want this far, and I said, let's go a little further ahead and see what else is here. He said, good idea. So we started walking and we started smelling one of the most foullless, nastiest smells you'd ever smell in your lives. The best way I can describe this thing was it smelled like some smelly still, almost like swamp water, but may be worse. And it just was horrible. We kept walking a little further and Jeremiah, I seen something with my uncle there, and I this place where we came up on looked like a bone yard.

24:46 It was filled with the bones of what looked like to me old deer circasses that had been killed, and everything was cleaned off the bones. It looked like they had been there a while. But this was not just one or two dear Jeremiah, this thing did probably if I had to guess, I'd said they've been at least fifteen twenty carcasses there over time. And I was totally like, what in the world is going on here? My uncle looked up at this and he said, Ray, He said, we need to go. I said, what's wrong? He said, we need to go. He said, I don't want you questioning me. I don't want you trying to stay or hang around or looking at anything anymore, he says. And furthermore, I don't want you ever coming back here by yourself.

25:51 He says. I don't like this. He says it fills off. He says something is wrong here. I said, okay. So we got back and my uncle told my grandfather what we had seen, and that was exact same thing. My grandfather told my uncle what she had told me. He said. He says, whatever you do, he says, I don't want that young and talking about me. He says, I don't want that young and he said going back into these fields no more. He says, unless he's with us, He said, from this day forward. He says, I'm putting my foot down. He says something is not right. He says we're seeing stuff that just doesn't make sense. They themselves had seen something in the distance, and they said it was a dark figure, But Dave was never able to officially look up and tell you what that was because it was so far out. But the one thing that they said they knew was that whatever this thing was, it was always standing upright on two feet. But they never could get enough of the look at it from a closer distance to tell exactly what they were seeing. Now, as

27:24 far as I know, we didn't have no bears back there. I never heard of a bear, so that was definitely out of the question. But over the years, it was a very interesting thing to see the things that we see now down in front of the house. Talking about the Green River again, which was in front of our house. You had to cross the road and then you'd go down into a cornfield patch, and then there was the river. I constantly would be up late at night. Now my bedroom was facing the road and facing that river. I constantly could catch over those years what I would considered a bigfoot going along that river. They for some reason, these things traveled along that river line there. Now I don't know why. I don't know what they had maybe some sort of what they call a nest or a home somewhere down through there, or if that was just a food source, maybe they were reaching in and getting fish out of there. I don't know. I don't know

28:56 how the envy go about stuff like that, but for whatever reason, I seen them more there than I seen anywhere else. Now I've seen this one female a couple of different times over the years, outside of what I've already mentioned to you, but again outside of the hogs going missing. Now, one thing I was surprised. This thing never bothered. My grandfather had these trained German shepherds and pretty much to guard everything and wherever he went that these animals would go with him. But for some reason, they never bothered those German shepherds. And but those dogs late at night and their cages and their cages were outside, they would go crazy at times. Now to me, it was telling me that something shouldn't that shouldn't have been around, was walking around the property. And my grandfather go outside there with a hot tired rifle there. He'd never seen nothing, though.

30:16 But the one thing I know is that he caught these footprints here and there. As the years was going by, and always on the property there. The dogs was never hurt, never disturbed in a way that this thing ever bothered them, other than the fact that you heard them going crazy in the middle of the night. Now the one and I'm still how do I say this, I'm still new to hearing, just because I just started listening to people's broadcasts and stuff about a year and a half ago. And this is why some of these things are still new to me, and some of the terms so I picked up a little bit. But the one thing that I know is that over time, this thing that I encountered was not aggressive, seemed to be just something that just came and grabbed a couple of those hogs here and there for food. We never found the carcasses, we never We don't know where they went to. Literally, they're just like they disappeared off this earth. But as far as us, this thing never tried to bother us. And again you've heard that part of the story. It had plenty of opportunity to have did anything it wanted with me,

31:49 because it was there for a couple minutes or so, and it could have did anything it wanted, but it didn't. And when I had, like I said, of until this age. I'm just learning that they're That same year there was on the other side of the river these bigfoot that unfortunately was terrorizing a family, and it was pretty bad situation. From what I heard and read, it was the total opposite experience that I had. But it definitely is a witness to the fact that in that general area these things were pretty pretty much making it a home of theirs on all of them lands there. I don't know how many were there. I can't tell you that every time I seen something along the river or Indian the backfields there, that it was always that same one. Other than those two incidentss and those two incidences I've talked about being more up close, that was the same one.

33:02 But now was the others that were seen in the distance by my grandfather and my uncle and etc. Was it the same one? I do not know. That I cannot say, but we were fortunate that this thing was not aggressive. I think that we're also were fortunate that the few animals that it did take, It's almost like as if it just didn't take nothing but what it needed and that was it. It wasn't like he cleaned my grandfather out of everything. He had because this wasn't something that happened every week. I can't there's just no way to put a pattern or a cycle to this.

33:51 The best that I could tell you is that this thing will show up, it seemed like every so many months, and then we would have some of the hogs to go miss it. But I don't know if you've got questions or anything there, Jeremiah, but that is pretty much the story there. Wow, what an incredible account of what you lived through, Ray, and thank you for sharing that. I definitely do have some questions going back to your first account of when it was so close to you, just feet away, thinking about I guess first off, so you were able to get a good look at its face then.

34:34 Pretty much yeah, Okay, have. You seen anything since then that reminds you of what you saw in that face. Other than the pictures and stuff? Personally, no being out, I've never That's the only time that I honestly had, other than when I too you about the almost drowning accident, the same thing. I could see that face, but this one ended up taking off pretty quickly, so I only got like a glimpse of this one. But it was the same animal, but other than to see pictures and things on footage of what people's put up. That's all I've ever seen, but not personally sure.

35:28 Did it have an appearance of something that was maybe more ape like features or human like features or definitely ape You think. It had a lot of ape like features. But I will tell you this, if I were to have to say it this way, it did look like it was half human because of the face part. It did have a lot of human like features in the face. But then again with all of the hair and et cetera, and the way it walked, it did have some type of qualities. As I guess, I would say, being that young, that was all that I'll tell you the truth. Being that young, that's what I honestly thought it was. Because it didn't know anything else. I didn't have no way to connect with not seeing TV, et cetera. To so I always thought it was just a huge monkey. But there's nothing, like I said, until I met Andre the Giant in person, I've never seen anything that big and that thing it was humongous. Jeremiah, it was older, but it was humongous.

36:43 Yeah, okay, And what would you say the approximate height would be again. Jeremiah looked to me to be seven and seven and a half foot a little bit of it. So what were the things you noticed about the face that were more human like? You'd mentioned that there are a few things you noticed. The eyes, the ears, And I don't know how to explain it. It's just it just looked human to me, if you had to put that face beside another one, other than the fact that the bone structure was a lot bigger, whole lot bigger. The cranial now that's another interesting thought to because I didn't know what this was.

37:31 But that head on that definitely was did not look like that human head. It looked like it was pointed almost and when you looked at the head, it almost looked pointed to it for some reason. And some people would say you could say that was more cone like, and I said, that's a pretty good description there. But yeah, the eye, gy the ears. For what you could see of the ears, there was a lot of hair, but you could still see those ears. I noticed that there wasn't a whole lot of hair on the palms of the hands, the feet, and the face. I guess if you think about it, an ape does look like that pretty much. But this thing just did not in the face did not fit the ape quality. For me, it fit more human than it fit. Now. The rest of the body looked like an ape to me, but the face no, by no means did that thing look like an ape in the face.

38:45 Okay, gotcha? Was it more muscular or was it more lean or could you tell? It all? Very muscular? Very muscular? It could. If a g own man had seen this, I think it had been pretty intimidating because of that feature right there alone, and how big it was. Again, I don't know anything. I'm still learning, and I'm very far from knowing facts, and I'm sure there's a lot of people out there that could teach me a lot more. But as big as this thing was, and from the stories I've heard, if this thing had not had the breast, you would have probably thought it was a male because of the huge size of it. That to me, almost the size of this thing almost I thought would have fit the description of a male. But I thought to myself, I thought, not there, but years down the line here. But I thought to myself, if that's a female, I'd hate to sure see what a male looks like. Absolutely this thing was just huge. Yeah okay.

40:01 So the rest of the body, besides the parts you've already talked about, were covered with hair then. Yeah yeah, okay, Yeah, even the backside of its buttocks. Was covered, gotcha. So then was there but you were still able to see the breasts and see that there are wrinkles and stuff. So yeah, yeah, okay, it didn't look it didn't look like a female that the breast were drooping. Oh sure, yeah, okay. And it wasn't like it says, but definitely drooping. And so you could tell this thing had been around a while.

40:41 Gotcha. You'd you'd mentioned that there was a form of I guess we could call it telepathy. Yeah, that happened now, which is super interesting. I don't think I've had too many, maybe not even really any experiences where the person was as young as you are and they remember that. Do you remember also experiencing that at other times? Or was that the only time that you had that kind of back and forth? That was the only time, Jeremiah, that I had ever experienced that. But I can tell you this experience, man, Jeremiah.

41:23 It feels good to be able to come on here. I thank you for that to be able to come on here. And there's certain things and I haven't let this story out up until this age. A lot of people don't know this, but there's certain things in life that you can only bundle up for so long before you feel like you've got to get that out of you. It's this is almost therapeutic to me in a way of speaking. And I'm just a transparent person. It feels good to get it out of me. But the world needs to know these things exist. Absolutely. I agree. Yeah, I agree one hundred percent with that. Ray. Did you ever have a conversation with your grandfather uncle when you were an adult about what happened during that time period?

42:10 Not my grandfather and my uncle he was a little He wasn't never treating me bad about it. But I would try to talk to him a little bit about it and he would he'd say, yeah, he says, they definitely was something back there, but now when and I would try to go forward what it was. I tried to lead the conversation into that particular day with the horse, and he never he always shut the conversation down and he never would let me lead it to that. In other words, he would come off as uncomfortable and not wanting to really go too far in that conversation. So I know, ever did honestly get that opportunity. It's a shame, Jeremiah, because my uncle died last month and I really and truly was hoping to have talked to him and did not get that opportunity and tell him what I seen that day. But that just did not get happened.

43:24 I'm sorry, sorry you lost your uncle. That Thank you. So you've talked a bit about what you saw that day, how you would describe it? Have you thought over the years about what you think what you saw actually, as we're calling it, bigfoot? But how would you describe what a bigfoot is to you? Jeremiah. I'm a Christian, and I really and truly believe in my body and what it tells me, and through all the studying and everything, I'll be very honest what I think these things are. But I'll go back to another thing here that's just a little interesting when you look biblically. They're in Genesis chapter six. It talks about the fallen angels sleeping with the women up on this earth, and they begat giants, and that was what they called the Nephilim spirits, and I personally, I have no other way to explain this, but I have not come up with anything but this is that I really believe these

44:56 things are Nephlum spirits that were seen. But the confusing part to me Jeremiah, and I don't think I mean said this to anyone. When you look at the case across the river with the nun Leys, they had a very horrible experience, and they had a very aggressive bigfoot that seemed to me wanted to kill them, and it did all their animals, it took their dogs out, everything. But then with the situation with me, I had something going on here that didn't seem to be aggressive and actually seemed to show up at times that I needed help, and never once tried to hurt me. Now, when I go back and look at my Bible and think about all that, everybody thinks to their self, these Nephilim spirits were supposedly these evil spirits. But then I have to ask myself, but what happened here? Why on the other side of the river did somebody have this type of aggressive experience, And why did I have the experience that I have? That's the part that's got me so mystified.

46:24 I don't have answers to I'm looking for those answers, but I really don't know. This is the only only thing that I could come up with as to what I think these things are. I don't know if anybody's ever given me anything that made sense to me outside this. Yeah, it is so interesting that theory, especially to look into it, and yeah, there's so many unanswered questions go along with that. And I need to look a little bit more into the spots Fille monster case. And guys, we were talking about Barton Nunley and his relatives, That's who we're talking about. Maybe I'll get to talk to him someday, But I wonder, do you know if with that encounter, if that it was a male bigfoot that was causing issues or were there female ones that were causing issues as well.

47:23 Oh, I'm going to tell you, I don't know, but i'll tell you While the memory of my conversation with him, it sounded more like a male from what I could gather, Okay, that's what I thought I gathered was this thing. This thing was just absolutely huge, and the difference in too. I also heard him tell me, was that this thing had red eyes. Now that was not the case with the one I seen. I don't even think we talked about that, Jeremiah. The one I seen had very dark, pitch dark eyes, like black eyes. Now they had the whites, but the whites this is something again we hadn't talked about.

48:24 But the white part of the eyes had a bunch of it was like if you've ever seen a human being was jaundice, sure, and that's just a high yellow And this is exactly what the white part of the eyes looked like. There was white there, but it was a high yellow one there. I don't know what this meant, that there was something sick going on with it, or if this just was the way it was born. But the eyes of this thing was just solid black and it and this is another thing we didn't talk about, Jeremiah.

49:05 When this thing looked at me, and it kept its eyes on me. But when it looked at me, Jeremiah, this is something I would not be able to shake from this time until the end of time. It looked like it was looking straight through me. It looked like it could see everything about me. The Bible talks about that the eyes are the looking glass to the soul. And that's what I felt like this thing was doing, was looking into my soul. Somehow. I've met a few people in my life that honestly that's how they it's how it appeared. But there's been very few people in my life, I think maybe two over my fifty seven years of living the that I have met. There was a man and there was a woman that fit this.

50:05 But this is what this thing when it looked at you, it's like it was looking deep down in your soul. It's like it could tell you everything about you. Because just with that telepathy, the telepathic communication, that told me there was an intelligence that was way beyond anything that we know or any accustomed to. It's such a fascinating story. I was trying to think over the last few minutes. I don't think I've ever had an account where there's been a female that has caused issues or been aggressive. There's been a lot of their helping or I've even talked to people off record where dathers don't really cause issues. It's usually the males that are doing the bluff charges. And I really hope that maybe if people know differently and they're like Oh no, there's this case where there was a female and she almost took someone out. Please put that in the comments so I can know, because if not, there could be a definite pattern there where the males are the guys causing the trouble and the females are just trying to clean it up.

51:30 I don't know that's true. Yeah. I heard a guy say one time, Jeremiah. He said, you know something for a lot of people to think about with this too. He says, why some of them may be more aggressive than others, he said, He said, just think about it this way. He said. You've got good and you got bad in everything, he says, but just think about those, he says. You may find a clan that's good, and then you may find a clan that's bad. He says, in one never knows, he says, maybe last week a hunter shot at him, and he says in they're angry, he says, in their upset, and now they don't trust, he says, And now they're aggressive, he says. And then you've got a plan that's never been shot at, and they've been living around human beings that's never caused them problems.

52:26 He said, that's just something to think about, he says, But he says, is that right? He says that theory, he said, it's just a theory. I don't know. He said, yeah, great. I want to say thank you for coming on the show and for sharing what you experienced during your younger years. It is a really fascinating story and just another example of what has been going on over the years along the Ohio River Valley in this area. And if people want to see the different things we've on the show, you can go to big for Society podcast dot com. There's a big Foot sighting map and you can see what I'm talking about. But I just want to make sure Ray that you're able to share everything that you had come on the show to share today.

53:14 I have, and Jeremiah, I can't thank you enough. You have a wonderful channel. And I'll tell you all those big footers out there, they should really check your show out if they haven't. You are good people and you're down to earth and you're honest, and I thank you for giving me the opportunity to share my story on here today. It's been great talking to you. Ray will definitely be in touch and you have a great rest of your day. Sir, God bless you take care. Now, before we wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've seen something that no one can explain, or if you're a National park ranger, a forestryt worker who's been told to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground, or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about.

54:15 And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field, or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith, or if you work in the shadows CIA, NSA or anything with clearance. And you've seen what the public hasn't, then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

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56:27 And see you in the woods.