July 24, 2025

Don't Underestimate Them! | Return to Oakridge Pt. 1

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Season 1

Jeremiah returns to the Oak Hole area in Oakridge, Oregon in July 2025 during the Sasquatch Summer Fest festival. What will happen to the crew as they go far into the woods? Find out in this episode of Bigfoot Society.

Note: This episode is all field recorded audio and may be different than what you usually hear. Enjoy!

This episode features: Jeremiah, Ronnie Roseman, Dewayne and Mark.

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Welcome to Big for Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron. Today's

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episode is especial in the field recording episode of a

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trip that just happened in Oakridge, Oregon during Sasquatch Summerfest

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twenty twenty five. I was able to go out to

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the field on the Thursday before the festival with Ronnie Roseman,

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Dwayne and new friend Mark. So you'll hear some interesting

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anecdotes along the way and see if we ran into

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anything strange or out of the ordinary up in the

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woods of the Oak Hole Research Area. Again, thanks for

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listening and joy, Pat.

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Did nothing to do about money to panic. You can't

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outrun them.

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Oh that's true. It is kind of end of the road.

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I mean, if it came to that point, you might

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as well just yeah, sing a song or something and

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go out horribly harves and leg is being ripped out

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of your sockets.

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You're right, I'm gonna go out whacking him in the

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head with my stick.

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There you go, thinking negative and violences you probably have.

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They probably gonna do a blunt charger, just come up

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and scare the shouty and then you turn and have

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a whack one a whack one of them. Then they

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would pull your head off where you might have let

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your go.

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That's a good possibility.

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Oh well, I'm I'm saying no, can't do anything. You

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can't beat them.

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So Ronnie, what should the goal be of going up

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there today?

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Fun?

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Fun? Okay, I'm done with that.

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You got We're like little kids looking for monsters, that's

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what I well, there you go.

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Yeah.

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I never when I was nine years old thinking about

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big but when I grow up, I'm gonna find out

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what they are. So I might just tell a kid

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out there looking for monsters.

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I wasn't a kid.

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I was twelve years building.

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They could build a shelter, seein and cook my dear,

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stretch out the hide, use tending for string, not me,

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and make pine glue. That's awesome, dude, those are the

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wrong track.

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Awesome skills to have.

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That's stressful, responsibilities and discipline, aledge.

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Yeah, but if something happens like you said.

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I had more fun.

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I was in elementary school, I ditched. I had more fun.

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I had a lot of fun.

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It grew up like Cocklebury's been there you go.

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I had little huts built from miles down that way

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to miles up that way.

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We went fishing and hunting, and.

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That's why I like having you with me, you know

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all that, like you.

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To get me a turkey or a grouse or man,

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we eat good.

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I kill a grouse with a rock.

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Oh wow, just throw that big foot beIN is pretty good.

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I went there today. It's a good place. You know.

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That's what a Chris guests.

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You probably went. Well, dude, there's like nothing else open

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early in the morning around here. I forgot about it.

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You have to wait until like eight o'clock. Uh sweet,

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fine open.

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Yeah, and I'm on Central Standard time, so I'm thinking

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it's like two hours ahead.

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That was a week. I was open there a week.

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I had to charge my phone. I called him.

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It's like, oh man, it's a little crazy, but I was.

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I was open ready that right there, that is the

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guy that does see the yellow eyes.

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And okay, I guess.

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You're familiar with me. He told me you talked to

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you a while back. I told him I did. I

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didn't know what's going on too, But there's so many

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people and I don't know what's gonna happen here.

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Uh.

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I need to get back with him, and I can't

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call dude.

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The Area fifty eight is hopping right now. Good, there's

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already people.

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Let's drive by the park and uh, let's area.

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Fifty eight that's the big Book museum.

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Oh, let's drive by the park. I can't abandon John.

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You know, you come all the way from Montana.

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And he's all right. I like Don.

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He's a good guy.

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I like it.

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He is.

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A few years ago he come up. That's when I

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was trying to make friends with these things. They were

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still pissed on. He said, let's go up and said,

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what's going on it? I didn't want to go back

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there at that point. I took him out there and

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he wanted to stay all night, and I said, all right,

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I was gonna do it. He wanted to see what

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I was doing. I was taking the food up this.

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When I started doing.

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That, we sit down and I had to put the

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feud up. I'm getting ready.

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It takes about fifteen minutes, and I'm trying to get

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it together. And he said, and I cant see him.

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He's puffing up already clustered. He said, all right, Ron,

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He said, what's going on around here? I said, Don,

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he's gonna take a moment and let me get this

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out of the way. We got all day to talk.

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I want to get this stuff.

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In the tree, and I put the food out there,

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said down and he was lucky. I said, I think

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I want to go home. There's nothing gonna happen.

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So is he camping down here?

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Uh? Who knows what he's doing.

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You're just guessing he's down here. I do he might

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be down Well, I don't see him, dude. Well maybe

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he went out by himself and I could see him

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doing that. Yeah, oh yeah, he probably just went out.

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He probably did. But I got it checked. I gotta

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I gotta be able to say.

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For you, you did your your thing. You know, you

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look to upset.

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I know, trying to get more out of me. But

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it's like, go down there, let's look down. Oh yeah,

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one last check.

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I could tell you stories about him, but to beat

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five hours, I don't want to get on that.

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Are they having the speakers inside the community hall this year?

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Is like that's gonna have something here?

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Oh?

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Really got married.

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I was a telling people out here. Don't do the

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farmer's wave, do they?

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Farmers?

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You guys don't like when you just wave at someone

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like this. Guys don't do that.

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Do you?

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Oh, you do all right? I was just waving at

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people who you're looking at. I don't think that's him

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over there.

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They might be hiking back and there.

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See that guy knew he knew you do the nod

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and acknowledge.

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That's all right? Should we go by? And knocked on

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the door of the serage the serge Mark Mark, he

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was in last night. He's a cool dalking the beard guy.

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Oh who's he's also been to the same area.

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Yes, that burger place isn't open anymore. Right, No, that's

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too bad. I never got to go to that place.

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Yeah, that's the guy.

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He plays guitar. He's pretty good. I telling him, lets

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get together and let's go out down to the music.

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So i'd buy any music right now. I'd be crying

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trying to get him out. He wanted to get together,

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and then he just I don't know, he's so down.

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And now I said, not take you. I want to

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take you up. We'll go up and where the pot

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area as long as I'm knowing you don't know I'm

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into Bigfoot.

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No I didn't know that.

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I said, yeah, we'll go up there and we'll take

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a six pack and do play some music in the

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Bigfoot area, and then I got stoopid. I talked too much.

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I'm telling him about how they would come in on

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me and.

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Dwayne and gonna tears the party show.

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He said, you want to take me up there where

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they're up there turning your bar night.

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So I got scared.

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I killed that I really quick.

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That's too bad.

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I got to think before I talk. But I can't

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do that because I can't think too good.

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So, Ronnie, since the last time, have there been any

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cool Bigfoot things that you've been involved with?

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Not? Nothing exceptional except that about six weeks ago. What

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it was, I went up there and, uh, there's the

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high pitched sounds coming off. Now as about thirty minutes

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when that blood curdly freaking banshee scream came off with

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a little kind of like a growl mixed in with it.

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That was a horrifying freaking.

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Was that when Kyle was with you? No, No, that

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was a different time, because stuff happened when you and

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Kyle went.

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Up right there. Well, with the sounds, you could tell

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they were coming up with sounds, but they're kind of yeah,

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I was just they were kind of, you know, nothing,

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driving up but you could tell it was them, but

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they seemed to mellow up. Someone are be okay with Kyle.

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Kyle seems to have something to you.

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Uh, Kyle's got some good vibes.

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Uh.

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He's a very interesting individual.

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He kind of lay low and he's at the I've

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been up there twice.

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With him and the chill out.

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Yeah, it's kind of more chill. I'm there, they're by myself.

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They want to start and scream and doesn't make it

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feel very comfortable, you know. Yeah, now they don't like

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me no more, not exactly sure, but see what the

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sergeants do. We don't want to leave him out.

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Oh this is Mark ra here.

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Yeah, okay, let me see what's up.

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I tried to call him that the freaking number didn't

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go through.

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If you steer enough to move this whatever.

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It is, you got a piece of chicken, he's gonna

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eat that. He'll be up.

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He's a piece of chicken.

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So I don't know, sounds good?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, we need to move the No.

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But in pioretically that might have worked because I really

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had to trust.

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It was a pleasure while I was.

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There, you know, and and doing that and have that

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interaction and theoretically, I think I would have got to

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meet him, get close to him. I think they would

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have come in if I didn't went up and stayed

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by myself at night. I think they would have come

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in real close.

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Uh.

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But anyway, somehow that.

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Got screwed up.

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I'm here all right, I'm making you a seat. We

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want to make sure it's clean for you. Well, I

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just can't stand a mess like this.

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It really bothers me.

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If you believe that, all right, I think it's in

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two We're good, all right, as top by the house.

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Just second, throw some of it out real quick.

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So you got involved in this area because Ronnie took

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you right to the area.

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Times you had found it yourself for Ronnie Gosha finger.

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I found if there's a three, yeah.

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Right, because you said you were.

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You found that trail where it was like a much

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bigger than a deer damn yeah. And it went across

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It was to the right of the meadow, like you said.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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If you're facing the.

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Meadow, yep, ways down to the right and it's not

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on the other side of the road, stops right at

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the road.

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So, Dwayne, I wonder if that's the same trail.

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Remember that trail where we found the the tracks going

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up on the that incline last year.

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That's possible.

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Hum, it may be close to that.

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It's almost when it sounds.

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Did you say that there was one? He drew a

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picture and he showed me there's a little trail behind

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where the your campsite was. Yeah, that's pretty close to

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where the Yeah.

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There there's a his charge.

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Yeah, there's trails all through there. But those got the

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world the swamp and the skunk cabbage, and I mean

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it's like, I think their kitchen down there.

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I mean that's where this trail leaves.

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Yeah, okay, right down down the bridge.

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Wow, could I mean? Yeah, Well we'll find out.

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It you get some other trails there, he sothing because

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where we and you walked in was on the left

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of the camp.

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Yep with all those weird breaks and stuff.

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And goes right down into a nice trail.

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The twist offs in those circle that was weird. Now

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some weird breaks up there.

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Yeah, Well you don't know, but it's always usually you

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see where you're going down a road or trail or something,

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you'll see a branch broke over like that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, it's stay on.

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There's a lot of that and twisted ones. Vegas completely

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twist them and pulled them off.

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I don't know if we were seeing breaks that were like,

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what were they like eight to ten feet up?

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Yeah, they were real high up.

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The biggest one that track was like twenty three It

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just twenty three and a half or something inches, And

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the heel was just like monsters wide.

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I mean, there's not proportion like a person.

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It's and we never come up prepared with any faster.

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I haven't seen that yet after start rating a game. Yeah,

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you won't need that till I mean in the mud.

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Last year that Sunday when we took Cliff up, if

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we had had plaster, we could have gotten some really

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good prints just outside the metal, but we just didn't

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have any.

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You know.

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Then Cliff totally what it helped us do it. He

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says he's goned, but it never hasn't.

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Yeah.

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I took him up there. That's how he found it

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was my daughter was talking to him about what I've

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been hearing up here, and he wanted to meet me,

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and I took him up there. Man, he would have

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had the best reay if he were to record what

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happened there's nobody that would have ever had a better

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recording anything I've ever heard, yea or anything.

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Never heard that one with all those five sounds at

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the same time going off in salon the owl, you know,

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the raven, all of it, the coyote, and the two

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frea like chimpanzee, crazy sounds all at once and right

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there at us, right.

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Right by us, Yeah, right all around us.

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It was so doubt loud. It was almost Stephanie.

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I was intimidated that we'd had a recording of that.

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I had a recorder on my phone and it didn't

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even know I didn't even have enough sense to know

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that I had a recorder.

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On my phone.

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Well, you're not thinking about it at that time. You're like,

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am I gonna die or not?

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Right?

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Well, I would not so much as Dwayne, because I

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figured they've given us a break. Uh, of course you

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don't think positive like that. No, they didn't come and

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scream at us for twenty twenty five minutes coming in

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to get Hey.

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They didn't bring me a rose or nothing to eat,

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So I don't know.

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What about that. The bottle up to be patient. I

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was about ready to get him to bring me roses

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after I fixed it up.

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Yeah, yeah, I.

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Mean I was sudden. I kept telling him. I said,

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dawayne I turned it around. I said, they're nice and stuff.

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Are you wanna which story were going to that one?

331
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Yep, you're the one that pissed them off. I don't

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no doubt in mine.

333
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Yeah, I lost him.

334
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I'd have been known. See if he could read your mind? Man,

335
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I can't believe I wasn't gonna.

336
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Oh that'd be horrible.

337
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What's you getting here?

338
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Oh?

339
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Something to take up? And oh?

340
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Okay, you guys want anything? I might grab something too.

341
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No, I'm fine, yeah, okay, I don't grab much. And

342
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I was eating eight the rest.

343
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Of you want some chicken? No, I get some chicken

344
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because I want don't want to eat all of it.

345
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No, we can go back some chicken if you want.

346
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We can go back by eight the most of it.

347
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We're close enough.

348
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We can go back buy and get your chicken.

349
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No.

350
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No, no, the dogs done eighty again.

351
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It's gone.

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Somebody some dogs offst over there. Yeah, other signs that

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have got a thousand dollars reward?

354
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Right do I have?

355
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I had some some cliff bars too, So you get hungry,

356
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just let me know.

357
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I had a nice breakfast.

358
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Okay, I had a nice breakfast too. I went to, uh,

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that is a sweet Vine place. They're really good in there,

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and so last year I would I was trying to

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track down these old timers that usually are at d Q,

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and they end up hanging out at Sweet Vine now

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because he is not open early enough, so they hang

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out a sweet Vine. So I was able to talk

365
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to a big foot. They were kind of like, oh no,

366
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we never had anything like that. Maybe they open up

367
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after a few months type dude. Yeah, got to go

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over to the museum today.

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That place is great.

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It's a good job playing.

371
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They're doing good over there. Man, they're gonna need more space.

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I mean if they get if it gets to the

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point where anyone else is like, hey here's another collection, like,

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they won't have the space because they have so much

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pewter burn stuff.

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Yeah.

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I'm doing long pants and long sleeves today. I'd rather

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sweat than get bit.

379
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They ain't going to protect you very good your hand.

380
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Well I'm talking about the flies.

381
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Oh what he's what you up there?

382
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Yeah?

383
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Well I got tore up or something to me. I

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even got this what you said this goof I got

385
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this goofy uh. I was just doing research about like

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how to stop horse.

387
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Flies, and I found out that up in Northern Canada

388
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they have like these, uh, these clip on like fake dragonflies.

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So I got one of those goofy things.

390
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Because the dragonfly is a natural predator of the horse fly.

391
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So you look like an idiot, but it takes.

392
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Him away, so.

393
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That I'm fine with.

394
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Now, you said something bitch in your leg? Yeah?

395
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Three here, two here? It was bad.

396
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It sounds like my friend they got hit by two

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of them, and his old leg was old.

398
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I mean just.

399
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The skin was dead. Oh how you didn't keep from

400
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losing these leg I don't know.

401
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Well, So the reason I took it serious. At the

402
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end the last I last day I was here, I

403
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was interviewing a wilderness guide up on high Prairie and

404
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at the end of our interview at his cabin.

405
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He looked at my legs and he was like, what

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are you doing.

407
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I'm like, what do you mean.

408
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He's like, dude, you go to a hospital immediately, like

409
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he got stone serious about it, and I was like,

410
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all right, I'm canceling everything else and I'm going to Springfield.

411
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Yeah, and that's it, you know.

412
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Thankfully he was able to take care of it. But

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they had no idea was they were like, never seen

414
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anything like that.

415
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Dude, it's weird.

416
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But you were telling you were talking about the black

417
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widow thing, right, which is an interesting idea.

418
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It potentially could have been that.

419
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You're moving over. Weren't moving any logs around, were you

420
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or anything?

421
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No, but I was not being smart and I was

422
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tramping through that meadow and tramping through.

423
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The woods and shouldn't been too bad.

424
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Yeah.

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I was like wearing shorts and stuff and not like

426
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really yep, it was a real bad move. So yeah,

427
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my wife is like, you never going in the woods

428
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with shorts every you know.

429
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Yep. I I got bit my round recluse. Really, I

430
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think I got about this paper.

431
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Oh my goodness, that hurt. Woof, that's some scary stuff too.

432
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Yep. Spiders can get you.

433
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Uh huh, alright, Ronnie's good.

434
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Yeah hit the road.

435
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Yah, yeah, that is so frought drink fire or night.

436
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I Uh. It took a lots for me to get

437
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up there and change it around, and a lot of nerve.

438
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I laid there for weeks thinking, but try to get

439
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up the nerve to go and I went up there after.

440
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I was there for a week, and I heard nothing

441
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was silent after being run out of there twice. The

442
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guitar was working. I knew it. It's keeping them at

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vague and they're they're trying to figure the asking or

444
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they're watching me and the music. Because I know if

445
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I hadn't had the guitar and started doing that, because

446
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they wouldn't any rest of my food anymore, they would have.

447
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I'm sure it would have been escalated. They didn't run

448
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me out of there, and I might have been pushing

449
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the envelope being run out of there twice, and I

450
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might hand have been worse than what I wanted. But

451
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that guitar changed around, I know it did. And so

452
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but it took two weeks to go out there doing

453
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that complete silence, no interaction. And after about two weeks,

454
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I went up there, like I said on your show,

455
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and the bananas were gone.

456
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Oh yeah, that's the that banana think was weird last year.

457
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Yeah, And so the banana is gone and there's no

458
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uh remains or particles of the food or nothing.

459
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These say, don't leave that.

460
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All the other animals do, I mean the chipmunks or whatever,

461
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and the birds and beer. I had a beer problem

462
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twice that they're putting that food up, but uh surprising,

463
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but they of course they me weave a big mess,

464
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but these things don't. So I figured it was them

465
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and I. But it took a long time to get

466
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him to do that.

467
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You get some chicken.

468
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We want chicken, all right.

469
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For your hen.

470
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Yeah, I can help you, but it's so there.

471
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It is so disappointing because I had I had, I

472
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had them almost my hand, and uh, somehow I missed it.

473
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I'll never have the chance again. You know that could

474
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have led into some really need one time opportunity.

475
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Well, I mean you can only keep moving forward, you know.

476
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No, you can't keep pushing that envelope now, and they

477
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might kill me. I don't. I don't know, true, but

478
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I know we're not friendly basis, and that's never gonna

479
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happen again.

480
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Maybe maybe not.

481
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I had that once in a lifetime chance. Because of

482
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the circumstances, I messed it up somehow. That's when I

483
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come up with those three rules. Don't underestimate them, don't

484
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disrespect them, and don't try to trick the same rule

485
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as you use for a woman.

486
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Right, Well, but you left out. Don't trust them. You

487
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have to have trust.

488
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You got you got Dan.

489
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You can't establish trust, you're you're messed up.

490
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Most people get screwed up when they try to trick them. Yeah,

491
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that's what I've found.

492
00:22:55.200 --> 00:22:57.079
Don't try to trick man.

493
00:22:57.119 --> 00:22:58.720
I learned it. I learned it the hard way.

494
00:23:01.319 --> 00:23:03.119
I was thinking that we needed to get someone. I

495
00:23:03.359 --> 00:23:03.880
know we're through.

496
00:23:04.240 --> 00:23:04.880
You need somebody else.

497
00:23:04.920 --> 00:23:06.400
Okay, no, no, we're fine.

498
00:23:06.440 --> 00:23:07.119
I'll turn around.

499
00:23:08.160 --> 00:23:13.200
No, we can go down out. Okay, everybody relaxing. Don't

500
00:23:13.200 --> 00:23:17.400
freaking talk me to death. Okay, irright, I gotta use

501
00:23:17.480 --> 00:23:17.880
my head.

502
00:23:18.640 --> 00:23:27.960
Okay.

503
00:23:30.200 --> 00:23:34.200
It's the first time going up there with no alcohol.

504
00:23:35.720 --> 00:23:38.640
So that is actually really interesting. It is the first time,

505
00:23:38.720 --> 00:23:41.000
isn't it. Yes, it'll be interesting to see what that.

506
00:23:41.319 --> 00:23:46.079
Are already getting stressed. I'm going up again't getting whacohol

507
00:23:46.200 --> 00:23:46.920
up there in corner.

508
00:23:47.119 --> 00:23:47.960
Oh, you'll be fine.

509
00:23:49.119 --> 00:23:53.440
It's so unique taking this six pack up there when

510
00:23:53.480 --> 00:23:57.200
we were had hitting it off. Yeah, and uh, I'm

511
00:23:57.279 --> 00:24:01.680
singing and drinking and they're whipping and they're I'm it's surreal.

512
00:24:02.960 --> 00:24:06.319
I don't know how to describe it. It's like you

513
00:24:06.400 --> 00:24:09.279
get this feeling that's like you. You know, it's special,

514
00:24:10.279 --> 00:24:14.720
and it's a feeling like you're some in some primordial

515
00:24:15.160 --> 00:24:18.079
time frame or something like you went back way back.

516
00:24:19.519 --> 00:24:22.240
I don't know how I've described. And you're interacting with

517
00:24:22.359 --> 00:24:24.480
something that can't be explained.

518
00:24:24.359 --> 00:24:25.920
Right, and and.

519
00:24:25.880 --> 00:24:31.640
They're accepting you. It's just a great feeling as a guy.

520
00:24:31.799 --> 00:24:36.559
I interviewed him on a cassette tape years ago. He's

521
00:24:36.839 --> 00:24:38.920
been a hunter. He's been here all his life. I

522
00:24:38.960 --> 00:24:43.519
haven't talked too many years ago, but it was one

523
00:24:43.519 --> 00:24:45.480
of these mountains. I don't exactly know what you can

524
00:24:45.519 --> 00:24:49.839
see it from down. He said that he was walking

525
00:24:50.200 --> 00:24:55.160
hiking up there, and he said that there is for trees.

526
00:24:55.480 --> 00:24:59.839
I mean that big around looked like Vince close, Vince are.

527
00:25:00.880 --> 00:25:01.759
He twisted and.

528
00:25:01.759 --> 00:25:06.240
Broke off, not cut, and he said he got the

529
00:25:06.279 --> 00:25:06.960
feeling that he.

530
00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:10.880
Whether the post it go beyond that point. And he

531
00:25:10.920 --> 00:25:14.640
said when he got home that evening, he was watching

532
00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:18.720
a documentary on Gurrilla's Yeah, and he said he's seen

533
00:25:18.759 --> 00:25:21.519
a gorilla doing the same thing in the market's territory.

534
00:25:21.599 --> 00:25:24.559
He said that here in the back of his connection China. Wow,

535
00:25:25.880 --> 00:25:28.440
I had back get a home of him before you go,

536
00:25:28.559 --> 00:25:30.599
maybe you can have a talk with him. He's got

537
00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:31.160
some interest.

538
00:25:31.519 --> 00:25:35.960
Do you still have that cassette? Take no everything?

539
00:25:36.480 --> 00:25:39.359
So that's like I hear stuff like that all the

540
00:25:39.359 --> 00:25:41.720
time where it's like, guys, I used to do interviews

541
00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:45.799
on cassettes like thirty years ago, Like Daniel Perez has

542
00:25:45.839 --> 00:25:49.319
a lot of them. But they're just gonna They're never

543
00:25:49.359 --> 00:25:51.279
gonna be transferred to anything else, you know.

544
00:25:51.480 --> 00:25:52.440
Yeah, it's a shame.

545
00:25:52.759 --> 00:25:53.519
She's a number one.

546
00:25:54.160 --> 00:25:54.519
Yeah.

547
00:25:54.839 --> 00:25:57.200
She told me one time she was out here, she's

548
00:25:57.200 --> 00:26:01.680
a hunter to humble in these cart truck I hope

549
00:26:01.720 --> 00:26:06.119
don't bother you, guys, but you're good. This bothers people

550
00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:08.119
meet pulling over. Like she told me that she was

551
00:26:08.160 --> 00:26:12.519
out hiking somewhere out here. It was a snows you know,

552
00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:14.240
on the ground, patches and.

553
00:26:14.680 --> 00:26:16.480
You have someone right behind you, Yeah.

554
00:26:16.440 --> 00:26:17.119
Right on the bed.

555
00:26:17.160 --> 00:26:20.119
I didn't actually to wait another thirty seconds. Why didn't

556
00:26:20.119 --> 00:26:22.039
they got them travels and bats? They got them somewhere

557
00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:25.200
to go. I got to go home alongst TV or something.

558
00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:25.920
Yeah.

559
00:26:25.960 --> 00:26:27.160
Oh yeah, he's hurt.

560
00:26:28.559 --> 00:26:28.960
Hurt.

561
00:26:31.480 --> 00:26:35.359
Yeah, she said she seemed like the tracks they must

562
00:26:35.359 --> 00:26:39.279
have been eighteen inches and that snow, and she said

563
00:26:39.359 --> 00:26:42.440
she went and got her friend. Yeah, like back up

564
00:26:42.440 --> 00:26:43.039
there to shore.

565
00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:45.759
Did I tell you what happened last time at d

566
00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:49.960
Q before I left? So you know, last time.

567
00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:52.480
Like I was like a little bit more like decked

568
00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:56.000
out with like wearing big foot stuff. This time, I'm

569
00:26:56.039 --> 00:26:59.759
kind of like a little bit not as crazy. But

570
00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:03.480
I was in DQ getting a breakfast thing. This old

571
00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:06.200
guy comes out of nowhere. He sees my big but

572
00:27:06.359 --> 00:27:10.559
shirt and he's like, hey, John Green stole my track

573
00:27:10.680 --> 00:27:13.279
cast back in like the eighties or seventies and never

574
00:27:13.319 --> 00:27:16.960
gave it back. I was like, what are you talking about, dude?

575
00:27:17.240 --> 00:27:21.720
And he had this crazy story about John Green using

576
00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:24.599
one of his tracks for the Eugene Paper and never

577
00:27:24.640 --> 00:27:25.720
giving it back to him.

578
00:27:25.799 --> 00:27:27.359
And I found the article about it too.

579
00:27:27.400 --> 00:27:28.200
It's pretty crazy.

580
00:27:28.359 --> 00:27:32.160
Oh yeah, I think it was just like a miscommunication thing.

581
00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:35.079
Yeah, there's probably more for the story.

582
00:27:35.440 --> 00:27:36.319
Yeah.

583
00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:39.200
Knowing John Green for twenty five.

584
00:27:39.079 --> 00:27:43.119
Years or thirty, I I don't know if they ever

585
00:27:43.279 --> 00:27:46.319
doing anything on energy. Was always out there on anybody,

586
00:27:46.400 --> 00:27:48.559
and that people got pissed on that he'd because you

587
00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:52.160
didn't give me so much information out Oh yeah, yeah,

588
00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:54.720
I'd be ever a very interviewed or talk to Tom Powell.

589
00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:57.480
Yeah, actually I did a few months ago and it's

590
00:27:57.480 --> 00:27:58.160
coming out.

591
00:27:58.400 --> 00:27:59.200
In a few days.

592
00:27:59.200 --> 00:27:59.720
Oh good.

593
00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:01.400
Yeah, he's a great guy to talk to.

594
00:28:01.559 --> 00:28:02.960
Oh. I really like him.

595
00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:05.000
I don't know if he likes likes me too much,

596
00:28:05.039 --> 00:28:08.400
but I like him. And he's into that woo stuff

597
00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:09.039
pretty good.

598
00:28:09.000 --> 00:28:10.640
Because he came out with that new book.

599
00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:15.200
So like half of it is his like Bigfoot history,

600
00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:15.839
and then the.

601
00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:19.319
Other half is about his new book. He's a real no,

602
00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:21.359
he's good and.

603
00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:23.440
He gets into the woo but he explains it and

604
00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:26.759
it's entertaining and it's enlightening and he's got a way

605
00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:28.640
of doing his personality or something.

606
00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:31.519
And yeah, I like listening to him.

607
00:28:35.480 --> 00:28:38.480
Yeah, John Green, I didn't pick any d H last night.

608
00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:40.799
Oh yeah, when I was I was.

609
00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:46.440
In John Green's living and we didn't got an eighteen

610
00:28:46.599 --> 00:28:49.680
s track. He come out, he said on the table,

611
00:28:50.680 --> 00:28:53.759
and he's got a calculator. He's always calculating stuff.

612
00:28:54.559 --> 00:28:56.920
And it made sense of wish I had had it

613
00:28:56.960 --> 00:28:57.920
all down the way.

614
00:28:57.759 --> 00:29:01.680
He did it. I don't have a picture, but he

615
00:29:01.799 --> 00:29:03.839
turned the knees, he looked at me and he and

616
00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:05.920
he pointed that in the way and calculated and he

617
00:29:06.039 --> 00:29:06.799
says that.

618
00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:11.480
Fella right there weighed two thousand pounds.

619
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:14.279
The way he calculated out that was anty in his track.

620
00:29:14.799 --> 00:29:18.200
That was his opinion on that. Uh, and he was

621
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:19.440
pretty good and stuff like that.

622
00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:24.119
You know that's yeah.

623
00:29:24.200 --> 00:29:25.119
Yeah, we just missed it.

624
00:29:28.519 --> 00:29:30.519
I don't wanna stop that quick anyway on there we

625
00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:31.359
got all the road.

626
00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:36.640
There's hot Yeah, yeah.

627
00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:38.720
This is said it happen.

628
00:29:39.039 --> 00:29:39.440
Let's see.

629
00:29:47.240 --> 00:29:53.359
No, you gotta be kidding. Somebody's pulling their bonds. What

630
00:29:53.359 --> 00:29:53.880
what it was?

631
00:29:53.960 --> 00:30:00.880
Kind of weird, lover, wasn't weird? Un't canning.

632
00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:08.119
That's why it's like I told you when I was

633
00:30:08.119 --> 00:30:10.440
in Arkansas, within about a week a week had at

634
00:30:10.519 --> 00:30:12.839
the possumle Confort me and then the sheriffs and they

635
00:30:12.839 --> 00:30:14.960
had the guy and I didn't do anything.

636
00:30:16.359 --> 00:30:19.240
There's a good there's an yep.

637
00:30:20.079 --> 00:30:23.480
Maybe hope cares can worry about it?

638
00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:25.640
What uh?

639
00:30:28.480 --> 00:30:28.839
What?

640
00:30:28.839 --> 00:30:28.880
What?

641
00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:29.960
Oh?

642
00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:31.160
You don't scare me like that.

643
00:30:32.039 --> 00:30:35.079
No, don't scare me like that.

644
00:30:35.640 --> 00:30:37.759
Can you see that Wayne had a heart attack right there?

645
00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:40.039
Man? That was You're clear.

646
00:30:40.240 --> 00:30:43.920
I'm clear, you're clear, clear, clear, car coming, but you'll

647
00:30:43.960 --> 00:30:45.200
be clear for the time you get out right.

648
00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:46.119
Yeah, we're good.

649
00:30:46.200 --> 00:30:50.000
They gotta make sure, holy moly, you cook him.

650
00:30:56.440 --> 00:30:59.039
Oh, I have to call my daughter something. I want

651
00:30:59.039 --> 00:30:59.799
to get affimation.

652
00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:01.279
It's a good rope.

653
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:09.000
Yeah, let's just relax if you've got time.

654
00:31:09.640 --> 00:31:11.640
If it happens, Yep.

655
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:19.920
This is neat. Just being here is kind of.

656
00:31:20.640 --> 00:31:21.559
Kind of nice, soothing.

657
00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:26.799
It a lot better than you.

658
00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:27.440
Yeah.

659
00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:30.200
I entertained the idea of Duwayne once in a while,

660
00:31:30.279 --> 00:31:33.240
but then it scares me too much. But you know,

661
00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:36.160
we lost so much here not being able to document anything,

662
00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:41.359
and it's so much happen from time to day. I

663
00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:43.519
think about going up there and doing that sound again.

664
00:31:43.599 --> 00:31:46.319
You know that there's a note you dinner. I'm not

665
00:31:46.559 --> 00:31:48.960
I I it's hard to entertain it. I the idea

666
00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:51.680
because that time be ready to record him if we

667
00:31:51.720 --> 00:31:54.880
get out alive. You know, we drive this way.

668
00:31:54.720 --> 00:31:57.119
A little bit, so that's who it is.

669
00:31:57.480 --> 00:31:59.880
Yeah, this is the way we go. I'm looking at

670
00:31:59.920 --> 00:32:01.599
the map right now, Ronnie.

671
00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:02.599
Right now, that's cool.

672
00:32:03.680 --> 00:32:04.440
It's pretty neat.

673
00:32:09.720 --> 00:32:12.839
We got some kind of primorial pre historic man out

674
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:13.920
of here or something, I don't know what.

675
00:32:13.880 --> 00:32:14.400
Who listen.

676
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:25.720
After having these experiences up here where I had to

677
00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:28.599
raise the borrow or something, it was like, I mean

678
00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:32.319
don't underestimate him, right. I think it wouldn't be something

679
00:32:32.319 --> 00:32:34.640
of the thinking of some prigulous, aren't if they had

680
00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:39.119
at supernatural way on. They do all this stuff intentionally,

681
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:42.160
do the crazy stuff that nobody would believe, so the

682
00:32:42.279 --> 00:32:46.400
research is recent and come back with all these testimonians

683
00:32:46.440 --> 00:32:48.240
about all this crazy and they go back to the

684
00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:50.799
community and tell them so where everybody thinks we're crazy,

685
00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:53.119
and they have it all planned so the people that

686
00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:55.039
think we're insane and nobody will listen to us.

687
00:32:55.039 --> 00:32:56.480
Okay, there's the road.

688
00:32:56.640 --> 00:33:00.640
Also, it might be a way if we so hold on,

689
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:03.920
hold on, if we we're going towards the place, right,

690
00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:05.359
we want to go towards way.

691
00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:06.000
Yeah, it's that.

692
00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:08.319
Yeah, it's like the number we have to keep it

693
00:33:08.519 --> 00:33:10.240
on these I know, but that where the incident.

694
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:14.160
Oh gotcha? Okay, sorry, if we go that way, I.

695
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:16.160
Could have sworn our roads up there too.

696
00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:18.920
I could have swore something, but I'm not sure.

697
00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:23.480
Maybe the nick one then, or as I could be wrong.

698
00:33:26.200 --> 00:33:28.000
I've been pro a couple of times that way.

699
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:32.960
There's people who probably had incidences everywhere.

700
00:33:33.160 --> 00:33:35.240
Oh yeah, yeah, oh absolutely, we.

701
00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:38.200
Want to go where the crazy ones happened been appairly recent.

702
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:40.960
Yeah, my brother walked every bit of This was one

703
00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:42.440
of our favorite on the spots.

704
00:33:43.319 --> 00:33:46.200
And you never seen one. You've seen one one time

705
00:33:46.240 --> 00:33:47.480
in that forty years, right.

706
00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:54.359
That was after that, yeah, my brother wal thol Is.

707
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:58.039
But you got seen too when this thing did the

708
00:33:58.079 --> 00:33:59.240
bluff charge for a year ago.

709
00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:01.160
Right, No one.

710
00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:06.519
W in the belly, I mean in the meadow with

711
00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:08.119
the thing jumped.

712
00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:11.239
And he jumped and ran. At first I thought that

713
00:34:11.400 --> 00:34:14.320
was like, is that a bear they want walked down

714
00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:17.559
or the butchers were so alive? Yeah, that thing had

715
00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:20.800
to have been enormous. And then Cliff found that partial track.

716
00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:23.239
We ran it back the other way.

717
00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:25.639
And Denise went back in there and found more tracks.

718
00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:29.519
Right, Oh she was a becker with them, but she

719
00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:30.719
found spound something her.

720
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:31.480
So yeah, So.

721
00:34:33.000 --> 00:34:36.079
The Thursday we were up, we found like a track

722
00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:40.320
or two and then Janice was like, let's get Cliff

723
00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:42.679
to go up. And then Cliff found more and then

724
00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:45.960
Denise found more too. It was just like going into

725
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:46.360
the woods.

726
00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:46.960
It was weird.

727
00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:51.800
Yeah, I've been trying to it's just crazy. We had

728
00:34:51.880 --> 00:34:56.800
some clear tracks sperience too, and nobody documented anything, and

729
00:34:56.960 --> 00:35:06.119
I Denise she found some tracks. Everybody nobody really documented anything.

730
00:35:06.239 --> 00:35:07.840
I just never really got me in it.

731
00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:11.760
I'm past the point and eat anybody his confirmation unapparently

732
00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:13.079
any big teams.

733
00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:15.920
Oh yeah, after you have a sighting like like you saw, dude,

734
00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:18.320
it's like it doesn't matter what other people say.

735
00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:20.920
Yeah, no doubt in my mind.

736
00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:26.119
Yeah, but Date, he was there with him standing there,

737
00:35:26.519 --> 00:35:29.239
but he was lucky in the opposite direction. Correct me

738
00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:31.239
if I'm wrong, But he was looking in the op

739
00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:35.599
direction and he had his camera. But he heard it,

740
00:35:35.800 --> 00:35:38.519
and Dwayne is looking at it when it comes out

741
00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:42.840
and day may here. It's so what time he turned around,

742
00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:45.119
he was already back in the voliage, back in the

743
00:35:45.159 --> 00:35:45.679
tree line.

744
00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:46.239
Yeah.

745
00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:48.639
The way it jumped was weird. It looked so.

746
00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:55.400
I don't know, I should probably turn it. I understand

747
00:35:55.440 --> 00:35:56.480
what I was even seeing.

748
00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:00.800
Yeah, yeah, even though you know they're there, you really

749
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:02.079
don't expect that like that.

750
00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:07.079
And that always bugs me because I missed that by

751
00:36:07.239 --> 00:36:08.599
just a few hours, dude.

752
00:36:10.280 --> 00:36:14.039
Dame, I missed the bite bite ten seconds truly.

753
00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:15.599
Yeah, that's even worse.

754
00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:18.159
After we crawled back there and looked out, it's all

755
00:36:18.239 --> 00:36:22.280
the branches and the brush was whatever little thing I

756
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:23.480
thought I seen him jumping.

757
00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:27.360
Wasn't little, it was an enormous.

758
00:36:27.039 --> 00:36:29.119
I thought you said that it had like you thought

759
00:36:29.159 --> 00:36:29.480
it was a.

760
00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:32.920
Young one, younger one could don't what it was god,

761
00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:38.079
and misjudged it for sure until I got back there.

762
00:36:38.559 --> 00:36:41.519
Well, it happened so quick. Did you get any definitions

763
00:36:41.559 --> 00:36:42.000
like face?

764
00:36:42.239 --> 00:36:44.920
No, I still having dumbling.

765
00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:46.320
Face.

766
00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:51.280
Look there you got if I could, I don't know,

767
00:36:51.480 --> 00:36:52.719
focused a little more.

768
00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:56.679
Even when you're bellying shot and especially after bunch.

769
00:36:56.840 --> 00:36:59.000
Through your there was a few of us up there.

770
00:36:59.559 --> 00:37:03.199
It was its like.

771
00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:07.599
From what I remember you said the data. When he

772
00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:09.840
turned around, you said maybe we should leave or something

773
00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:12.519
like that, and he said go hang on and then uh,

774
00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:16.480
then he heard another roar and it sounded closer, and that's.

775
00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:19.679
What he says, Yeah, I think it's time to time

776
00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:23.800
to go, time to get a tank.

777
00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:28.440
Funny with that, well, and it was a small role

778
00:37:28.559 --> 00:37:30.079
compared to the ones that we were here.

779
00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:34.199
If he hadn't been looking at that what you saw

780
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:37.239
with that camera and had that, he probably didn't have

781
00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:41.480
his camera ready, but he that would have been still extraordinary.

782
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:45.840
That would have been great, fantastic, But I couldn't believe

783
00:37:45.880 --> 00:37:48.320
it was just another barroom story now. You know.

784
00:37:48.400 --> 00:37:50.480
First of my brain was telling me what is that?

785
00:37:50.760 --> 00:37:51.400
Is that a bear?

786
00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:51.599
What?

787
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:55.480
But it did this weird jump and then it ran on.

788
00:37:56.320 --> 00:38:02.239
Yeah, I got it down there, but those branches were listening.

789
00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:08.760
Oh yeah, you got those pictures, uh Jeremiah of what

790
00:38:09.159 --> 00:38:10.519
the braks?

791
00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:10.840
Right?

792
00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:11.079
Yeah?

793
00:38:11.400 --> 00:38:13.559
Oh yeah, I got I got it, definitely a few

794
00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:13.880
of them.

795
00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:19.119
I wish I had a buzz no fucking whiskeyting.

796
00:38:18.639 --> 00:38:21.679
Though, see there, what.

797
00:38:23.159 --> 00:38:24.760
I have your whiskey or nothing?

798
00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:26.519
That mellows me out?

799
00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:27.320
Man?

800
00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:30.000
Because I talked a lot more.

801
00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:34.559
See, I guess there's pluses and everything.

802
00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:40.880
I gotta keep remembering, or keep reminding myself to look higher.

803
00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:45.400
Oh yeah, you know, I'm always looking down to the ground,

804
00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:46.199
and I'm.

805
00:38:46.159 --> 00:38:48.519
Forgetting it too. I got it just naturally look down.

806
00:38:48.559 --> 00:38:50.719
I don't think about these things being so heavy and

807
00:38:50.760 --> 00:38:51.599
being up in the tree.

808
00:38:51.960 --> 00:38:57.239
Yeah yeah, I look even for bears and cougars up

809
00:38:57.280 --> 00:38:57.760
in the dream.

810
00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:01.880
Oh yeah, m but also for them.

811
00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:10.599
The cup as much as you look around, that's for sure.

812
00:39:11.039 --> 00:39:21.119
Yep starts to beating. I can to back neck out another,

813
00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:22.400
sweet it up a little bit.

814
00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:27.119
My brother used to can't back me there, Uh quite

815
00:39:27.159 --> 00:39:33.840
a bit, just we'd work the saddles, go around the road,

816
00:39:33.960 --> 00:39:37.360
get dropped off way up there, and then we'd walk

817
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:40.039
all that through the woolly's back down.

818
00:39:40.119 --> 00:39:47.840
And look, I wish I had some uh more highlighted,

819
00:39:48.199 --> 00:39:52.440
big stories, but I don't in it, so I kind

820
00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:55.519
of gets redundant repeating what happened, you know a few

821
00:39:55.599 --> 00:40:10.480
years ago. Oh yeah, up, so much brought up.

822
00:40:10.519 --> 00:40:19.000
Then see this road goes on around a long ways around.

823
00:40:18.880 --> 00:40:21.960
Called you my GPS isn't even updated anymore, and boom,

824
00:40:23.559 --> 00:40:23.719
you know.

825
00:40:23.800 --> 00:40:26.239
These things are phenomenal. I learned so much about him,

826
00:40:26.239 --> 00:40:29.639
but here things I wanted you to be. He's just

827
00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:31.760
the Rhode Island. He couldn't make it out this time.

828
00:40:31.800 --> 00:40:33.760
But he is the second guy I brought it whenever

829
00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:37.719
growing up just being big party. He's the guy that

830
00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:40.039
I brought up. He's a big guy, and he interpreted

831
00:40:40.079 --> 00:40:45.000
anything I was amazed couldn't. But these things put more

832
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:49.119
inimitation when I brought him up. In anybody, we we

833
00:40:49.239 --> 00:40:51.960
gotta be at least a mile away. And then one

834
00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:57.920
came over, and you know that one didn't bother you

835
00:40:58.079 --> 00:41:00.840
that he was surprised. I just got big and he

836
00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:05.000
lected any wind, but it didn't turning back. Uh, I

837
00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:06.760
would have been going the other way if I hadn't

838
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:07.960
been on a good relationship.

839
00:41:09.920 --> 00:41:12.480
But they knew that far away, that a good ten

840
00:41:12.559 --> 00:41:15.559
minutes that we were coming, and they knew I was coming.

841
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:19.079
I know they knew it, and they knew and they didn't.

842
00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:21.599
This is why I got to think, and I think

843
00:41:21.679 --> 00:41:25.000
they even do they methodically or at a level that

844
00:41:25.159 --> 00:41:28.039
they only knew what they needed to do, and I

845
00:41:28.199 --> 00:41:31.360
think just I just feel that there's nothing just for

846
00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:35.000
the theory. But like they knew that it was gonna

847
00:41:35.039 --> 00:41:38.800
take more intimidation for this guy than the norm.

848
00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:40.320
I knew that.

849
00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:42.159
I didn't think it was. I didn't feel like it was.

850
00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:42.840
Uh.

851
00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:46.480
Intimidation was towards me, and I grew that because after

852
00:41:46.559 --> 00:41:49.000
I took from the airport, I was back there the

853
00:41:49.079 --> 00:41:51.360
next morning and was back to a normal wooman will

854
00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:55.199
will be playing. So but they knew it was me,

855
00:41:55.239 --> 00:41:57.280
and they knew I was bringing somebody. They wanted him

856
00:41:57.360 --> 00:41:59.320
out of there, and they didn't want me bringing anybody

857
00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:05.360
and want a meal leave me alone, Which maybe that's

858
00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:06.760
the prob just kind of romantic.

859
00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:10.000
You brought too many people in there. They don't like it.

860
00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:13.360
I was the only one invited to the party. It

861
00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:17.119
makes you feel kind of special. Yeah, did you get Hell?

862
00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:19.079
Did I know about it? To tell you about it?

863
00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:21.639
You didn't know about that when I was bringing in

864
00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:24.360
through that and we ended up being surrounded when.

865
00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:27.960
I knew about the creators and sounds.

866
00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:30.840
Oh yeah, you know all that, yeah, and this stuff.

867
00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:32.880
But I'm talking about that one answers and their level

868
00:42:32.960 --> 00:42:36.199
of intimidation, and it wasn't directed towards me, and I

869
00:42:36.280 --> 00:42:37.760
knew it. I don't know how I knew about it,

870
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:41.880
felt it. They weren't mad at me, and I proved

871
00:42:41.880 --> 00:42:43.559
it because it was there the next morning and we

872
00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:47.599
were chummy chummy again. I thought that that was kind

873
00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:48.079
of special.

874
00:42:48.559 --> 00:42:48.719
Yeah.

875
00:42:48.760 --> 00:42:50.559
I think most doctors call a delusion.

876
00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:53.119
It's negative and negative.

877
00:42:53.159 --> 00:42:55.719
I could don't see the positive things, and oh I

878
00:42:55.800 --> 00:42:56.199
would do.

879
00:42:57.119 --> 00:42:58.159
It was kind of romantic.

880
00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:01.599
That's where we had our first two Okay, gotcha.

881
00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:03.599
We're down in their kitchen.

882
00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:07.280
Yep, is that swamp starting.

883
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:09.760
That's the only rock throwing experience I had with him.

884
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:10.320
I was that.

885
00:43:10.920 --> 00:43:12.760
Yeah, but they were little rocks. I think it was

886
00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:13.199
a juve.

887
00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:16.480
Oh yeah, they were being nice and little rock. It

888
00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:20.039
was light intimidation. It was like, uh, appreciated if you

889
00:43:20.039 --> 00:43:22.199
don't sleep in our area right here, we kind of

890
00:43:22.360 --> 00:43:25.159
like it. So they were tilted nice.

891
00:43:26.199 --> 00:43:26.320
Uh.

892
00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:31.280
They weren't kissed. They just you know, let us politely.

893
00:43:31.360 --> 00:43:36.239
You know that they didn't like it's spun. Isn't that

894
00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:38.920
the way you took that they were being nice? Yeah?

895
00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:41.639
Uh way, it was juvenile, just having fun.

896
00:43:42.239 --> 00:43:42.840
I don't know.

897
00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:45.760
I think they're all together when they started, uh huh,

898
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:48.559
but I you know when that we heard that twig

899
00:43:48.639 --> 00:43:52.760
snap on the swamp side and the shrill whistle. Then uh,

900
00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:55.440
not too long, just a moment later. What around the

901
00:43:55.519 --> 00:43:57.559
other side of the day were its more woods and stuff.

902
00:43:57.880 --> 00:44:00.880
We heard the twigs snap exactly like was recording, and

903
00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:04.320
this real whistle. It made you look to think that

904
00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:08.719
there was two. I don't know if or one because

905
00:44:08.760 --> 00:44:10.719
I have enough time to walk around to the other side.

906
00:44:10.760 --> 00:44:13.880
But I think I don't know, but I think because

907
00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:17.559
they play tricks. I uh, they make you think that

908
00:44:17.960 --> 00:44:19.840
something else rather than what they're really doing.

909
00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:23.559
You're still in the swamp up in here, get through

910
00:44:23.599 --> 00:44:28.480
a wet grips and then down below a replace I

911
00:44:28.719 --> 00:44:30.719
seen him or heard him was up there.

912
00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:33.599
Huh on the top side the camp that is there?

913
00:44:34.599 --> 00:44:38.679
Yeah, uh they uh, they're not. They're playing with your mind,

914
00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:41.599
your head. I I had enough experience to know that

915
00:44:42.840 --> 00:44:45.320
they can do certain things and make sounds and stuff

916
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:47.320
and going. You think they're doing something there and they're

917
00:44:47.360 --> 00:44:49.800
doing the opposite. They got something in your head and

918
00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:52.039
they're doing the opposite of what you think they're doing.

919
00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:54.960
I'm convinced of that. That's how perfect smart.

920
00:44:56.719 --> 00:44:58.679
Yeah, I was like, I know where we are now

921
00:44:59.000 --> 00:44:59.519
or here?

922
00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:04.519
Yeah, they probably already don't hear I can I can

923
00:45:04.599 --> 00:45:06.079
hear the little one now if they're gonna have.

924
00:45:06.159 --> 00:45:09.239
The little ones now, I'm just saying, Pa, there used

925
00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:11.199
to be a nice trail down to you there to

926
00:45:11.320 --> 00:45:12.360
the main trail.

927
00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:14.599
Hey, Pa, that fallly you be?

928
00:45:14.880 --> 00:45:15.239
What's that?

929
00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:15.599
Uh?

930
00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:16.920
Is that purple flower?

931
00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:19.519
Those loopns? I'm not really sure.

932
00:45:20.079 --> 00:45:22.239
I think they might be. I think I don't know.

933
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:25.840
I can hear one of the kids saying, Pa, that

934
00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:27.880
guy that you've been trying to run out of here

935
00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:29.599
and threaten to kill heat back.

936
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:34.079
Yeah, he said you were a sissy.

937
00:45:39.880 --> 00:45:42.320
I bet they didn't think us assisty after running us

938
00:45:42.360 --> 00:45:44.880
out twice and then meet coming back for the first

939
00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:48.559
time alone. That's what I was crazy, was part of

940
00:45:48.639 --> 00:45:50.840
the rational, That's what I was used to help with

941
00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:53.679
my courage. I was thinking they might be cause they

942
00:45:53.719 --> 00:45:56.400
weren't making the sounds when he came back after Yeah,

943
00:45:56.559 --> 00:45:59.800
so crazy. I was thinking they might think that I

944
00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:00.599
am crazy.

945
00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:03.079
It must be some kind of plus while you're still here.

946
00:46:03.679 --> 00:46:04.000
I don't know.

947
00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:08.719
I don't want to push it envelope too far. And

948
00:46:09.079 --> 00:46:12.840
this was just beautiful right before it burned. It must

949
00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:14.599
have been amazing.

950
00:46:19.960 --> 00:46:24.760
In a while since Tien went around and getting other split.

951
00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:31.960
How come everybody else gets to see one of these

952
00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:36.239
things except me. I've been closer to her more times

953
00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:37.559
other than anybody, ain't.

954
00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:42.639
Oh yeah, you've never had a sighting at Yeah, it's crazy.

955
00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:45.039
I've been close, really close lots of time.

956
00:46:45.440 --> 00:46:49.639
Yeah, especially like the ones when you were on that

957
00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:55.119
one with Darwin and his dad expedition.

958
00:46:55.360 --> 00:46:58.719
Oh yeah, that was right by my tent. I was

959
00:46:58.760 --> 00:47:01.679
by myself. They're the main camp was.

960
00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:02.599
It was.

961
00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:07.400
A block away or whatever. But I was by myself

962
00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:09.719
with a half that night, and I was terrified. Yeah,

963
00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:11.760
that's when one of these things was doing that sound

964
00:47:11.880 --> 00:47:17.320
to me. Right next to my tent, and I had

965
00:47:17.679 --> 00:47:21.880
my tent where I make it as secure, to make

966
00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:25.039
it as secure as possible, and I got it. There

967
00:47:25.119 --> 00:47:28.760
was a thick brush on one side and then a

968
00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:31.159
treaty that was bowed up. It was solid and about

969
00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:35.679
that around this jereman about that thick and it bowed up,

970
00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:37.559
and I put my tent where my head is, right

971
00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:40.519
up against that and I got on top of it

972
00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:42.679
and jumped up and down. I was one hundred and

973
00:47:42.719 --> 00:47:46.320
sixty five pounce and I couldn't budget. So something was

974
00:47:46.360 --> 00:47:49.679
stocking me. I figured maybe a bear. The third night

975
00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:52.360
it came in. I know where it came in from

976
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:54.679
because there was an animal traill that came r and

977
00:47:54.719 --> 00:47:56.480
then came right back to the back to my tent.

978
00:47:57.159 --> 00:47:59.079
During the middle of the night, about one o'clock, I

979
00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:04.079
heard that thing, that thing being pushed down right behind

980
00:48:04.119 --> 00:48:04.480
my head.

981
00:48:04.639 --> 00:48:05.480
It's crazy, dude.

982
00:48:05.559 --> 00:48:08.360
And then it was like, uh, didn't want any sounds,

983
00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:11.800
so I heard it like releasing a going back up,

984
00:48:12.679 --> 00:48:13.480
and then it was just.

985
00:48:13.800 --> 00:48:17.239
That's the sorry, that's the break we saw last year, Dwayne,

986
00:48:17.320 --> 00:48:20.159
where it's like, yes, sir, there's the one on the

987
00:48:20.239 --> 00:48:21.280
left and the one on the right.

988
00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:23.840
I remember that one, dude, And just.

989
00:48:23.880 --> 00:48:26.559
A moment later after the release, like that thing was

990
00:48:26.599 --> 00:48:32.840
going back up and right next to my tent. Well, well, well, well.

991
00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:33.880
We're gonna do that up period.

992
00:48:34.079 --> 00:48:34.920
I want to do it.

993
00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:37.880
Fifteen minutes if that works.

994
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:38.960
Still hoped they didn't hear me.

995
00:48:39.639 --> 00:48:44.199
Oh oh you put it run from me in big.

996
00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:45.440
Well, I'm gonna be running.

997
00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:47.760
You won't be able to get He's twelve nineteen, so

998
00:48:48.719 --> 00:48:49.679
twelve thirty four.

999
00:48:50.840 --> 00:48:53.400
Last thing you did, I had a fear in my life.

1000
00:48:53.920 --> 00:48:55.159
I was thing was further away.

1001
00:48:56.360 --> 00:48:57.920
Yeah, dude, last time.

1002
00:48:57.960 --> 00:48:59.400
I didn't think they heard me either.

1003
00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:01.400
Because it's like the meadow is right there.

1004
00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:06.320
Well, man, that pissed him up bad. The last time?

1005
00:49:06.559 --> 00:49:08.480
Have you were trying to get us killed? That's the

1006
00:49:08.639 --> 00:49:11.280
time wasn't on the way up here. I've been debating

1007
00:49:11.360 --> 00:49:13.920
on doing that again. Well he did it again.

1008
00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:15.440
Well that's a second time.

1009
00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:17.760
It's probably the engine was too loud.

1010
00:49:18.000 --> 00:49:20.920
Probably no, I don't Yeah, I'll probably hope. That's the

1011
00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:24.039
second time I've been stupid, only twice.

1012
00:49:23.920 --> 00:49:24.519
Rock and roll.

1013
00:49:24.679 --> 00:49:28.960
I need to drink now drinks up here, dude. I

1014
00:49:29.000 --> 00:49:35.440
should have got some whiskers, No drinks. I needed to rely.

1015
00:49:35.519 --> 00:49:36.000
Relax me.

1016
00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:40.079
I'm getting and it gave me flashbacks.

1017
00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:44.280
Yeah, me too. It's stupid. I'm gonna try. I learned

1018
00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:47.280
from you to turn that car aways around the same case.

1019
00:49:47.320 --> 00:49:48.960
We got to get out Fla.

1020
00:49:50.079 --> 00:49:50.360
Guys.

1021
00:49:50.480 --> 00:49:53.239
I have dreamed about this place when I went home.

1022
00:49:53.519 --> 00:49:54.320
I'm not even kidding.

1023
00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:56.679
It gets weird, like I was having dreams about this

1024
00:49:56.800 --> 00:50:01.079
place for months. It's very vivid, weird, weird stuff.

1025
00:50:02.440 --> 00:50:03.599
This is a hot area.

1026
00:50:04.119 --> 00:50:05.519
It's strange up here, man.

1027
00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:10.119
I spent three months straight here. Yeah, entertaining them right here.

1028
00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:17.199
You go weird, don't how once you walk back in

1029
00:50:17.320 --> 00:50:17.880
your house.

1030
00:50:19.320 --> 00:50:21.440
I mean, they don't look so big till your back there,

1031
00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:23.760
and then it's like way up tall.

1032
00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:29.159
Yeah, m hmm.

1033
00:50:30.079 --> 00:50:30.599
I hope you.

1034
00:50:30.639 --> 00:50:31.119
Didn't like.

1035
00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:33.519
I hope you didn't hear.

1036
00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:37.760
I really hope so, dude, that they didn't.

1037
00:50:42.280 --> 00:50:43.559
That's the last time you did it.

1038
00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:44.719
I gotta care about it.

1039
00:50:45.280 --> 00:51:23.679
We're to put a bacon and everything. H hm. We

1040
00:51:23.840 --> 00:51:25.519
put a container with bacon up there, and I can't

1041
00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:26.079
see what it went.

1042
00:51:26.400 --> 00:51:27.920
What kind of container, I don't know.

1043
00:51:28.719 --> 00:51:30.960
There's something hanging from the tree on the other side.

1044
00:51:31.320 --> 00:51:32.960
That might be the sticky tape yep.

1045
00:51:35.519 --> 00:51:36.840
It wasn't a plastic bucket.

1046
00:51:36.960 --> 00:51:38.920
Was it something like that one that went up there?

1047
00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:41.480
Cause there was a plastic bucket over there. That's not it?

1048
00:51:41.920 --> 00:51:43.800
Okay, what got you?

1049
00:51:43.880 --> 00:51:45.519
Just small that a f.

1050
00:51:56.039 --> 00:51:57.800
G apples in the manors? You all go on with

1051
00:51:57.920 --> 00:51:59.880
whatever they go.

1052
00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:00.599
When we did that.

1053
00:52:14.880 --> 00:52:16.159
Double sticky taste up here?

1054
00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:22.000
Okay, no hair on it? Where did you play by

1055
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:22.840
the head up in there?

1056
00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:39.880
That's all going MNYA, we'll get sticky tape. That's a

1057
00:52:39.960 --> 00:52:42.960
Scott Carpenter got say, Oh, I know sick put here?

1058
00:52:43.320 --> 00:52:44.880
Yep, h.

1059
00:52:46.639 --> 00:52:59.679
A lot more of that. What's this over here?

1060
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:04.679
There's something over here? Is that like a shirt or something?

1061
00:53:06.920 --> 00:53:07.360
Over here?

1062
00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:13.320
Oh, there's like a is that the bacon right there

1063
00:53:14.519 --> 00:53:15.800
that looks like a bacon container?

1064
00:53:21.360 --> 00:53:21.599
Yeah?

1065
00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:30.119
So it was originally right there. So let's look around

1066
00:53:30.440 --> 00:53:40.119
this area real carefully. You kind of maybe see like

1067
00:53:40.159 --> 00:53:56.239
a trail right there. Now, I would say, I would

1068
00:53:56.280 --> 00:53:58.880
say that that almost looks like there's some kind of

1069
00:53:58.920 --> 00:54:01.039
like bite marks. I don't know what you think, but

1070
00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:09.039
it definitely wasn't like easily opened because it's like not

1071
00:54:09.199 --> 00:54:10.199
broken apart.

1072
00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:13.639
Right, Yeah, it's broken fun you get into it.

1073
00:54:18.159 --> 00:54:20.440
So it was hanging an art bag from.

1074
00:54:24.039 --> 00:54:25.280
Well, we like our bacon.

1075
00:54:25.880 --> 00:54:28.400
Yeah something does I have to.

1076
00:54:28.400 --> 00:54:29.440
Make my sticky tape better?

1077
00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:38.519
We wouldn't take that word. Yeah, a good find. How

1078
00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:39.679
far away was it from?

1079
00:54:41.079 --> 00:54:41.320
Three?

1080
00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:45.039
Here's there's one more pieaser here?

1081
00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:54.599
Okay, this is what we had.

1082
00:54:54.559 --> 00:54:55.079
The bacon in.

1083
00:54:57.199 --> 00:54:59.760
Oh, so we found it in the ground over here.

1084
00:55:00.280 --> 00:55:01.079
The bear got it.

1085
00:55:02.719 --> 00:55:03.559
It was laid upon it.

1086
00:55:03.760 --> 00:55:06.719
A bear could have Yeah, it's broken, so I would

1087
00:55:06.760 --> 00:55:10.920
say probably a bear because we were stuck out with

1088
00:55:11.039 --> 00:55:12.000
that tastry thing.

1089
00:55:12.599 --> 00:55:18.119
It was open, but of course I don't know. It's

1090
00:55:18.760 --> 00:55:20.360
it could be a tooth mark right there.

1091
00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:25.719
I don't know either, but you think there'd be more

1092
00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:28.880
teeth marks. Is there anything in the bag?

1093
00:55:29.480 --> 00:55:30.400
Where's that tore up?

1094
00:55:37.480 --> 00:55:37.639
Oh?

1095
00:55:37.760 --> 00:55:37.960
Yeah?

1096
00:55:38.519 --> 00:55:42.239
Yeah, so I didn't take hands to do that.

1097
00:55:43.039 --> 00:55:43.239
Yeah.

1098
00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:49.039
I try to warn him about feeding the bear. Make

1099
00:55:49.079 --> 00:55:51.079
it dangerous to keep coming up here some day?

1100
00:55:51.199 --> 00:55:53.000
I know, right potentially?

1101
00:55:55.280 --> 00:55:57.559
Oh yeah, that other meadow is right there. I want

1102
00:55:57.599 --> 00:55:59.239
to see that meadow real quick.

1103
00:57:17.880 --> 00:59:21.320
Set righting, Uma, All the whoopling was coming from back

1104
00:59:21.400 --> 00:59:26.519
in there, really and oh wow, now the fires came in.

1105
00:59:26.880 --> 00:59:29.840
I was coming back in there, nothing happening, and I

1106
00:59:30.039 --> 00:59:32.599
was thinking maybe they left or whatever. I didn't know

1107
00:59:32.639 --> 00:59:34.519
if it was going to come back. I came in

1108
00:59:34.599 --> 00:59:38.519
on my birthday it happened to be my birthday, and

1109
00:59:38.760 --> 00:59:41.519
back in there, and I know that's where they were

1110
00:59:42.760 --> 00:59:45.559
in that metal. Back in there. Hundreds of tracks they

1111
00:59:45.719 --> 00:59:48.719
left them, and I've never heard of that. I've never

1112
00:59:48.800 --> 00:59:51.280
heard of them doing that. I mean a hundred feet

1113
00:59:51.360 --> 00:59:53.039
that way and a hundred feet that way. There was

1114
00:59:53.199 --> 00:59:57.079
all over everywhere. The big the gal I believe his

1115
00:59:57.159 --> 01:00:00.559
old lady fifteen in his tracks, the twelve it tracks,

1116
01:00:00.559 --> 01:00:04.519
the younger ones, and then the big guy. He's the

1117
01:00:04.599 --> 01:00:08.199
only one, the twenty three inch. He's the only one

1118
01:00:08.280 --> 01:00:11.320
that left the tol impressions on the trucks. I guess

1119
01:00:11.360 --> 01:00:14.480
because of his weight, right. But they were all over everywhere,

1120
01:00:14.519 --> 01:00:16.639
and it was on my birthday. I'm just telling them

1121
01:00:16.679 --> 01:00:18.519
to wage. I think they were celebrating and they were

1122
01:00:18.599 --> 01:00:20.360
happy I was back. Give me a sign.

1123
01:00:21.320 --> 01:00:23.960
Yeah, I know it's weird back, but I'm just weird.

1124
01:00:24.480 --> 01:00:27.360
Oh, I know that's where they were everything for the

1125
01:00:27.440 --> 01:00:30.639
three months. They were back in the same spot.

1126
01:00:32.159 --> 01:00:34.199
So I thought whenever you were telling me that before

1127
01:00:34.280 --> 01:00:36.559
that it was over there, but actually back there.

1128
01:00:36.639 --> 01:00:38.519
Yeah, every time I played here from back in there,

1129
01:00:38.519 --> 01:00:44.440
whoop whoop woo. Man, it's so close to really you know, uh,

1130
01:00:46.320 --> 01:00:50.239
the first time I was kicking to them, Uh, I

1131
01:00:50.239 --> 01:00:52.960
don't feel all back. I got the three signs from

1132
01:00:53.000 --> 01:00:53.800
near by myself.

1133
01:00:54.079 --> 01:00:54.320
Yep.

1134
01:00:54.719 --> 01:00:58.440
And when I was out here and I know they're ticked,

1135
01:00:59.239 --> 01:01:03.159
but I just after I lost communication, I was over there,

1136
01:01:03.199 --> 01:01:05.679
I played. I was here for an hour, playing by

1137
01:01:05.760 --> 01:01:10.519
myself and nothing happening, dead quiet. I thought, I'm gonna

1138
01:01:10.519 --> 01:01:12.199
sit here all day if they're not even gonna respond

1139
01:01:12.239 --> 01:01:14.079
to let me know they're here. And it s like,

1140
01:01:14.400 --> 01:01:17.119
I think the first time I've talked about and I

1141
01:01:17.280 --> 01:01:20.320
uh so I said over over there, I said, if

1142
01:01:20.360 --> 01:01:24.440
you here, let me know. And as soon as I

1143
01:01:24.599 --> 01:01:28.760
said that, immediately there's a twig snap behind me there

1144
01:01:29.280 --> 01:01:32.000
and then over out in here sounded like it was

1145
01:01:32.039 --> 01:01:33.239
in here, big branch.

1146
01:01:34.800 --> 01:01:35.320
Oh wow.

1147
01:01:35.599 --> 01:01:41.199
As soon as I said that really here, Yeah, that's wild. Yeah,

1148
01:01:44.079 --> 01:01:46.320
so I realized I should have been talking.

1149
01:01:46.119 --> 01:01:53.480
A long time ago. Yeah really, oh yeah, this day

1150
01:01:53.599 --> 01:01:53.920
very week.

1151
01:01:56.239 --> 01:02:01.119
Where's the plastic bucket from which? Why is that classic

1152
01:02:01.199 --> 01:02:06.639
bucket from one of the yeah showed up doing it? Okay,

1153
01:02:08.360 --> 01:02:11.840
because this looks like it has big shoe marks in it.

1154
01:02:11.960 --> 01:02:14.920
Dude, my bucket, Yeah.

1155
01:02:16.360 --> 01:02:17.440
Something's been chewing on that.

1156
01:02:19.920 --> 01:02:23.960
One of my bench. Yeah, but that I don't know.

1157
01:02:24.320 --> 01:02:31.039
Of course, he said it was the bearing.

1158
01:02:31.119 --> 01:02:34.360
I've never it's been here since swevelhen be here. I

1159
01:02:34.400 --> 01:02:35.960
never looked at it. I think you got to take

1160
01:02:36.000 --> 01:02:36.800
the trucks out, you know.

1161
01:02:42.639 --> 01:02:44.719
And well, one time after we come out of here,

1162
01:02:45.360 --> 01:02:48.840
some strangers stuffed and him about even being up here

1163
01:02:48.880 --> 01:02:52.239
and messing around here. I don't know who they were,

1164
01:02:53.719 --> 01:02:56.320
That's what he was telling me, that somebody said be

1165
01:02:56.440 --> 01:02:56.920
going up there?

1166
01:02:57.199 --> 01:02:58.280
Did anyway.

1167
01:02:59.400 --> 01:03:03.280
He was, we ran across to Now it's a little

1168
01:03:04.239 --> 01:03:07.639
hostile at first, and you started talking with him a

1169
01:03:07.639 --> 01:03:11.239
little bit and when he's the Marines, so think so

1170
01:03:11.400 --> 01:03:11.880
calm down.

1171
01:03:12.000 --> 01:03:13.920
He uh has game?

1172
01:03:14.360 --> 01:03:15.280
Can't what they said?

1173
01:03:16.679 --> 01:03:19.239
Well, probably because we know that they're trying to get

1174
01:03:19.280 --> 01:03:22.800
pictures of doubt m they know they're here. There are

1175
01:03:22.800 --> 01:03:24.159
a lot of people know they're up here.

1176
01:03:27.000 --> 01:03:28.440
And I started asking if.

1177
01:03:28.360 --> 01:03:32.239
You found something picture had something uh unusual in these

1178
01:03:32.280 --> 01:03:33.400
pictures and I didn't.

1179
01:03:33.440 --> 01:03:39.639
He said, look for deer now hunt. I said, okay,

1180
01:03:40.920 --> 01:03:41.920
that's a good excuse.

1181
01:03:42.079 --> 01:03:44.400
It's possible, but not usual.

1182
01:03:44.719 --> 01:03:47.159
Now, how hardly ever see hunters up there, and the

1183
01:03:47.280 --> 01:03:50.039
ones they do are usually on a four wheel or

1184
01:03:50.199 --> 01:03:54.800
just driving the race because it's steep mountain on both

1185
01:03:54.880 --> 01:03:58.840
sides and hard to get met out. I was my

1186
01:03:58.920 --> 01:04:01.559
friends wouldn't hunt with me than my brother, because uh,

1187
01:04:01.679 --> 01:04:04.679
I would carry my meeat out of these steep hills

1188
01:04:04.719 --> 01:04:07.679
are m and the hears like carrying the meat out.

1189
01:04:08.840 --> 01:04:11.000
And of course I shook some pretty nice bucks, you know,

1190
01:04:13.119 --> 01:04:15.320
I guess some two hundred and fifty pounds bench ly

1191
01:04:15.559 --> 01:04:15.800
up here.

1192
01:04:16.000 --> 01:04:17.360
I'm incredible bucks.

1193
01:04:17.440 --> 01:04:19.679
Many What black tail you mean?

1194
01:04:19.800 --> 01:04:20.000
Yeah?

1195
01:04:20.119 --> 01:04:24.159
Black tail mule deer across Oh okay, I called them

1196
01:04:24.199 --> 01:04:26.559
bench like. So they have like the the body of

1197
01:04:26.639 --> 01:04:29.480
the mule deer, but shorter legs, kind of like the

1198
01:04:30.280 --> 01:04:34.079
you know, black tail and mom. But they still add

1199
01:04:34.159 --> 01:04:37.159
more of a black tail flavor, probably because they eat

1200
01:04:37.440 --> 01:04:38.039
everything here.

1201
01:04:38.880 --> 01:04:42.000
I'm gonna walk down see that trail. Al right, it

1202
01:04:42.039 --> 01:04:45.000
does sound like some trail you're already going about. How

1203
01:04:45.039 --> 01:04:49.840
about partner, I had a little further than the thought

1204
01:04:49.840 --> 01:04:52.320
about it. It's a little ways but not not too

1205
01:04:52.400 --> 01:04:53.480
offul Partners.

1206
01:04:54.400 --> 01:04:54.960
Is their root.

1207
01:04:55.119 --> 01:04:59.039
I think that's their bad and I think down there

1208
01:04:59.159 --> 01:05:02.119
the swamp is like one of their kitchen areas paying

1209
01:05:02.199 --> 01:05:03.599
whatever else along the world.

1210
01:05:04.599 --> 01:05:07.199
We come right through year a lot.

1211
01:05:09.559 --> 01:05:11.800
Well that and you have the trail right over there,

1212
01:05:11.920 --> 01:05:17.480
so they have a trailer to connect to, you know, and.

1213
01:05:17.559 --> 01:05:20.039
Then there's a trail to connect down there and one

1214
01:05:20.159 --> 01:05:28.760
up here. That's that'll be fun.

1215
01:05:29.199 --> 01:05:29.400
Yeah.

1216
01:05:29.400 --> 01:05:32.920
It looks like the masvas, right, it looks like dried

1217
01:05:32.960 --> 01:05:33.679
out masvas.

1218
01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:40.880
Yeah, that's all these trees dying some good fire. Lat h.

1219
01:05:42.480 --> 01:05:45.960
If I ever decide it, screw with you be vack

1220
01:05:46.079 --> 01:05:46.360
in there.

1221
01:05:47.519 --> 01:05:49.840
That's where that going three inch track works.

1222
01:05:50.639 --> 01:05:51.440
Vacuum there in the.

1223
01:05:51.559 --> 01:05:54.840
Soft Are those like raspberries or something?

1224
01:05:55.039 --> 01:05:57.039
Or is there more like a.

1225
01:06:00.760 --> 01:06:01.760
BlackBerry congra?

1226
01:06:02.079 --> 01:06:02.239
Yeah?

1227
01:06:02.960 --> 01:06:05.440
Gotcha? Did you have wild raspberries operated in?

1228
01:06:05.880 --> 01:06:06.239
Uh huh?

1229
01:06:15.400 --> 01:06:19.159
When you you deep ups see when you turn Oh yep,

1230
01:06:19.639 --> 01:06:20.039
you won.

1231
01:06:20.039 --> 01:06:22.400
Yet you can eat those also when they turn the

1232
01:06:22.480 --> 01:06:24.639
red wing?

1233
01:06:25.239 --> 01:06:25.679
Oh really?

1234
01:06:26.119 --> 01:06:26.280
Yeah?

1235
01:06:26.440 --> 01:06:28.559
Are the huckleberries in season yet or not?

1236
01:06:28.760 --> 01:06:33.239
Yeah? Yeah, a couple had uh green waters part Uh huh.

1237
01:06:33.840 --> 01:06:36.039
There's gotta be some out somewhere.

1238
01:06:40.960 --> 01:06:42.440
Play that makes me all.

1239
01:06:45.360 --> 01:06:50.880
Remember that night m A was that you're going when

1240
01:06:50.960 --> 01:06:52.480
up go ho for beer?

1241
01:07:05.360 --> 01:07:09.840
Pretty sure it's right there, Yeah, because that's the trail.

1242
01:07:10.880 --> 01:07:13.280
Yeah, that's it. Last time we were here, it looked.

1243
01:07:13.079 --> 01:07:14.920
Like, yep, some tracks.

1244
01:07:15.840 --> 01:07:20.840
Yeah that was wild and you knew oh yeah, so

1245
01:07:20.960 --> 01:07:21.760
this is the same one.

1246
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Okay, oh yeah, we knew.

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Wepe but it looked like it was a couple of tracks,

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but one right there and then one right in there.

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I just wanted to say thank you for listening to

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this episode of the big Foot Society podcast. It's always

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a great time going out into the field with Ronnie

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and Twain, so my second year doing that, and you

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01:07:47.840 --> 01:07:52.440
always get some new tidbits of information when you go

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out to add to the lore of oak Hoole. So

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huge thank you to both of them for making me

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part of their community. If you enjoy this conversation, please

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subscribe to the channel on YouTube hit the bell so

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you don't miss new episodes and share this one with

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a friend who loves Bigfoot specific Northwest or a good

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time out in the woods. Also, if you go over

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to YouTube on the big for Society podcast channel, there's

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a playlist specifically for Oakridge episodes. We're almost up to

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fifty there, so please go over it and listen to those.

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01:08:27.840 --> 01:08:32.319
If you are a little bit behind in the lore

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01:08:32.479 --> 01:08:35.279
of Oakridge when it comes to Bigfoot, and if you're

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01:08:35.319 --> 01:08:37.760
on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, please follow the show there

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01:08:38.000 --> 01:08:42.039
and a five star positive review really goes a long

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01:08:42.119 --> 01:08:45.000
way in helping more folks find us. If you or

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01:08:45.039 --> 01:08:47.319
someone you know has had a big Foot encounter in

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01:08:47.399 --> 01:08:50.880
the Oakridge area of Oregon or anywhere nearby, I would

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01:08:50.960 --> 01:08:54.000
love to talk to you. Please email me directly at

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bigfot Society at gmail dot com. Thanks again for being

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01:08:58.000 --> 01:09:01.000
along for the ride with Big for Society. Until next time,

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keep your eyes up, respect the signs, and never stop

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asking what else might be out there.

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And see you in the woods.