April 7, 2025

Dude Ranch Sasquatch | Nebraska

Join host Jeremiah Byron in this episode of Bigfoot Society as we talk to Michael, who reached out via email to share his astonishing encounters with Bigfoot. Michael recounts a series of unforgettable events starting from his childhood in Nebraska,...

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Season 1

Join host Jeremiah Byron in this episode of Bigfoot Society as we talk to Michael, who reached out via email to share his astonishing encounters with Bigfoot. Michael recounts a series of unforgettable events starting from his childhood in Nebraska, where he first encountered Bigfoot at a dude ranch. Despite the ridicule and disbelief from family and friends, Michael continues to stand by his experiences, which also include eerie activity in Georgia and a haunting revelation in Sedona, Arizona. This in-depth interview highlights the profound impact these encounters have had on his life and offers new insight into Bigfoot behavior and locations you may not expect.


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slash the big for Society and now let's get on

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with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society, we get the

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privilege of talking to Michael today. Michael's an individual that

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reached out to me through email about some interesting things

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that he's had happen over the years, a few encounters

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that he would like to share. So welcome to the show. Michael.

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How's it going man?

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Good? Jeremiah, thank you sir. How are you doing today?

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I'm doing great. We just got through a crazy Iowa

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blizzard and we're crossing her fingers at this week next

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weekend doesn't do the same. So you know, it's always

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a good day when I'm able to talk to someone

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who's had a encounter and kind of work through it

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with them. So, you know, I want to make sure

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that you have the time to share what you have

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brought today, Michaels, So I'm going to go ahead and

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give things over to you, and right ahead, my friend.

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Yeah, it happened in nineteen seventy six. The only reason

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I know the year was the bi centennial, and that

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was a huge you know, that was on the radio NonStop,

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and the fireworks were excellent that year. I think, whether

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it's through the eyes of a child, the fireworks were amazing.

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So and I went to this dude ranch about three

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years in a row, and I think this was the

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last year. That's the only reason I would remember the

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year is to buy centennial. The weird thing is to

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me it happened in Nebraska, and you know, well, we

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used to go to Lake Ococoboji all the time in Iowa,

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so I feel free in the winters. They can get

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really really mad in the Midwest. But it just seems

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really strange that my encounter happened in Nebraska, where you know,

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there is a lot of woodland, but it is predominantly

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open plain. And this was back in the seventies. Omaha

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is so much bigger now, but once you get to

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the outskirts, it's pretty much open fields, and of course

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you have a ton of wheat fields and cornfields. Anyways,

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the Dude Ranch, you know, back in the seventies, parents

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let their kids do what they did and hopefully they

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survived through the summer, you know, and they didn't mind

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dropping their kids off somewhere for a week or two.

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I think it was the last summer I was there.

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And the first thing I remember is and when I

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say Dude wrench, it wasn't like a huge, impressive cabin

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made of logs. It was a basic cinder block outfit.

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It's amazing what you remember from your childhood. I could

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still draw it on paper. It was role basic. It

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was a rectangle. One side was for the boys, the

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other side was for the girls, and then in the

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center is where we would eat and play games and

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have dances and things like that. The first memory I

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have of something just being a little off was I

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was talking to the owner's son and it was towards

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the evening and we had just gotten out of they

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had an above ground pool. We had just gotten out

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and we were drying off, and he was talking about

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weird things happening, and he was really vague about it,

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but the sun was setting and he'd just said there

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were odd occurrences going on, and I didn't get much

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out of him, But for some reason, that conversation from

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decades ago stuck with me. And I don't know if

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it was just the conversation or something else, but I

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had a real strong feeling of dread that came over us.

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It shouldn't have been there because we were right in

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front of the building, and their house was probably fifty

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feet where they lived from the building, so it's not

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like we were in the woods. But for some reason,

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into this day, I still don't know why this sense

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came over me, but it's like, and I know this

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isn't my mind as a kid, it's like it got

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darker quicker, the woods seemed more ominous, and after a

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few minutes that filling subsided and everything was good. You know,

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when you're eight years old, a lifetime ago. When you're eight,

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you don't tend to keep on subject for long and

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changing the subject. After a few minutes it went away.

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But I do remember that probably the leading up to

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the events. Oh pardon me for a moment. One night,

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and I don't know how long I had been there.

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I think it was probably towards the end of the

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two weeks stay. I think it was two weeks. I

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will always remember this for the rest of my days.

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In the middle of the night, one of the girls

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came yelling and screaming into our side, saying she saw

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a big, ugly face in the bathroom window. Now, when

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I described the bathrooms, they're real basic affairs, you know, toilets,

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sink in a shower. But the window was placed high

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enough so no one could peer in. I do remember

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the windows being pretty high, off the off the ground,

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and I'll go into the topography in the back of

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the building in a minute. But she came in and

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she you always heard people say white as a ghost.

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I have never seen anyone white. It's like, it's strange

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to see when someone when all the color has been

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drained from their face. And she came in and she

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was just freaking out, And my first thought was, well,

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she's trying to get one over on us. Guys, you know,

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you know, kids just you do stuff like that. And

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then I paused for a second and I was studying her,

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and she was scared. She was shaking and white, and

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she just said there was a big, ugly face in

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the window. And you know, we were like a beehive,

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you know, we're all uh, you know, we went into

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their side. We shouldn't have, but we did. We went

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into the bathroom, didn't see anything. I don't remember smelling

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anything either, And for some stranger we as a reason,

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none of us went outside. We didn't hear anything, no noise, nothing,

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And we got her settled down and we went to bed.

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And I guarantee you one thing when we all woke

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up the next morning. First thing we did, and I

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don't know why we did this, but we went outside

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to the back. And being eight, you know, six feet

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seems tall, but I would, you know, And this is

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a memory that's like forty eight years later, and I

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know memory is not you know, written in stone or steel.

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But we went to the back and behind the building.

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The ground slow down fairly quickly from the back of

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the building, and to me, being eight, we put our

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hands up and we were nowhere close to getting to

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the window, nowhere close. First thing we noticed were the

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muddy handprints. I don't remember it raining it may have,

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but there were muddy prints on either side of the window,

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and from what I remember is they were really big.

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And what really got me is the thumb was misplaced.

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What I saw, the thumb was a cross between a

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human and a chimp. The thumb was further back on

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the palm than a human's is. It was an imposable thumb,

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but that got me. The size. We kind of marveled

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at that, and like most kids that are eight, ten, twelve,

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there were all ages there. We quickly went on, you know,

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with the Dude Ranch things. And one of the things

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that Dude Ranch had which I really loved, my mom

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won a horse. And my whole childhood was being around horses,

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caring for them, being in the stable, so I knew

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horses fairly well. When they had horses, you could ride,

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and I I did it so many times I could

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even to this day, decades later, I could still put

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a saddle on a Western style. The only thing that

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got me is that I had to learn that when

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you saddle a horse, they'll puff out their chest because

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I don't think they liked the saddle being tight. I

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wouldn't want to be saddled up and have my lungs,

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you know, clenched. And what they would do is we

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would go on this so it was like a four

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day trek. It was a two day trek out. We'd camp,

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we'd eat with the supplies we had, we'd gather firewood,

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and then two days back. And it was a hard ride.

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And man, there is no pain in riding a horse,

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like eight hours a day. That'll tear you up. And

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the corral was right behind the building, and they had

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like probably twelve horses, and they had a large property

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and the horses were pretty well trained, and they would

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usually masks, you know, in the morning to feed in water.

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When the girl saw the face, I do recall not

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a sound coming from the horses, which which was strange

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because they usually kept them, most of them in the

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corral because a lot of us liked to go ride.

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So anyways, we got our supplies and we're going on

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our trip and it was you know, July nineteen seventy six.

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First night was fine, no issues, no problems at all.

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And the second night is kind of a paradigm shifting event.

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There's a few events in a person's life that will

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affect you, like the birth of my son, you know,

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falling in love for the first time. There are moments

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that define you. This moment was just as impactful as

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those were, but not in a good way. And mayan

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ken Are happened on the second night out we were,

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we had a campfire going. There were probably about ten

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to twelve of us. I think there were about two

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or three counselors the ust kids, and we were in

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an open field, but we were right next to a

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wooded area and we were bedding down for the night,

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and it was the strangest, strangest thing. I was in

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a deep sleep and I just happened for some reason

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to wake up. And I've always been that's the only

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superpower I have is I'm a white sleeper. If someone

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opens the door, I'm instantly awake and aware of what's

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going on. But it's like I woke up, stood up

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and immediately knew where to look. And at first I

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saw someone coming down a hill in the south we

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call them haulers, and then just the low point between

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two hills and it was summer clear sky, a lot

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of moonlight, a lot of stars. There was a lot

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of ambient light. And I saw someone walking down the

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hill and I thought, yep, I caught you. I was

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certain as one of the counselors out there to scare us.

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They love to do that to us, so they were

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really good at it. And I'm standing up surrounded, you know,

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the campfires. It's got embers going, but it's pretty much dead.

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I stand up and for some reason, I watched, but

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I didn't yell, didn't say anything, and I thought it

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was a counselor, and it stopped, and that's when I

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realized something is really off about this. The first thing

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I noticed were the arms. The arms were way too

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long for a person. That was my first hint that

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you know, something ain't right. And second thing I noticed

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was haroll over its body. And you know, as we're

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standing staring at each other, it was going down the hill,

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and when I stood up, it stopped and it's facing

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me and its shoulders are hunched forward a little bit

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and it swaying from side to side. And I'm like, first,

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I'm thinking, who does that? I don't know of anyone

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who who does that. You know that that's the most

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abnormal thing. We're staring at this thing, and I am

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an utter shock. I I can't say fear. It was

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utter shock. The body it looked like it was thin,

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like a well, it was like a basketball player, but

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thicker than that. It didn't have It wasn't the incredible Hulk.

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Uh you hear so often about. This one was much thinner. Uh.

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The legs were bent a little bit, it was hunched over,

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and it was just swinging its arms from side to side.

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The color I don't know if it was dark red,

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dark brown, or black. The only thing I saw was

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a perfect profile of it, and just the way it

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swayed was so eerie. There was no eyeshine, no smell.

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The one interesting thing to me is the horses did

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not have a problem. And I still can't explain that.

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I would think something like this would under every animal

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in the area, but it didn't. And we're just staring

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at each other.

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Big for society will be right back after these messages.

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No eyeshine, and I was just rooted to the spot

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and I was in such shock I could all I

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had to do was yell out, and I would have

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had ten or twelve people up around me immediately. I

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could not move. My body was frozen, and we're just

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staring at each other. And I feel, honestly like it

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was for like two or three minutes, and I was

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so mesmerized. It's like this thing had I had tunnel vision,

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and this thing had my full attention. The rest of

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the world didn't exist, and I was rooted to the

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spot like a tree. I couldn't utter a single word,

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and it keeps swaying and again, going back to the body. Sorry,

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I'm jumping around a bit. The torso is a bit

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longer than humans, so besides the long arms, the hair

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everywhere in the swing, another thing was the legs seemed

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to be a little shorter than I would have expected

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on a person, and the torso was more elongated. And

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it wasn't skinny. I would say it was real solid,

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like if you had any elongated chimpanzee. The head it

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had fur or hair on it. I didn't see the

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conical head, I didn't see any ears, And we just

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stared at each other for two to three minutes. And

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this thing walks down the slope of the hill into

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the haller and disappears behind thick brush, and I don't

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know how long I was standing up, but eventually I

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laid down. I didn't sleep the rest of the night,

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and in the morning I didn't say a word because

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I didn't want to be teased or made fun of.

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That was, you know, as an eight year old. That

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was my biggest concern, was that. So we saddle up

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to horses and we're heading back, and this part, I'm

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not sure what to make of it. But we went

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by a really old shack. It was a really old house.

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Part of the roof had fallen down. It was broad daylight.

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Oh and the other thing is when before we took off,

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I settled the forest and I went to the haller

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and there was such thick brush. I do remember thinking,

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how could anything go through that without making any noise

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or getting bogged down? The brush was real thick, but

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I didn't hear any footfalls or anything. So we're heading back,

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and this point I'm not sure if my brain is

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playing tricks on me or not, because I was so spooked.

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But we went by an old shack. The windows were out,

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and due to where the sun was in the sky,

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the inside of the house was really dark, and we

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were all we were probably like, I don't know, eighty

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feet from this old beat up shack house, whatever you

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want to call it, And as we passed it, I

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really got the impression that there were like three kind

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of grayish white, hairy forms in there, and all I

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could see were the backs and heads were bobbing up

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and down like you would see a person eating. But

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I guarantee you there was no table, you know, in

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that shack and that really threw me. And about that time,

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my horse bolted and wouldn't stop. It must have gone

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for a solid half mile, and it stops right in

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front of a throw thorn tree and throws me in

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the thorns. So I don't know if that has if

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that's tied in, you know, if that was my mind

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playing tricks on me. But the horses were well trained,

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you know, well trained enough to to where the owners

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felt comfortable enough having young kids on them. One thing

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to go back a little bit is the morning we

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were supposed to go on this, you know, a little

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four day trek, all the horses had jumped the stable

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and it took us hours to go out in the

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woods and bring them back. And I'm certainly not you know,

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the world's sign is the question. And I'm certainly no

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horse whisper, but that just seemed like really odd behavior

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to me, that all the horses in a corral would

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jump out and the you know, the height was pretty

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you know, it was pretty high. In my mind, they

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were motivated to get the heck out of Dodge. So

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that's that's about it for the horse behavior. Anyways, we

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get back to camp and what's really odd to me

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is the rest of my trip there. I don't remember

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being afraid. It's like the whole thing was just gone.

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I don't know if it was a defense mechanism. I

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think it was. But during the rest of my time there,

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we were in the woods a lot. They didn't worry

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at all. And you know, camp ended went back home

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years ago by we moved them as a you know,

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I went deer hunting, I fished all the time, didn't

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have a single problem. And it wasn't until decades later

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in Arizona that everything came back and we were in Sedona.

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Arizona probably one of the most beautiful places on the planet.

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I think the red rocks really beautiful. Of me and

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a girlfriend at the time were staying at oh kind

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of like a bed and breakfast like a nice hotel.

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Well they had a the red rocks and a lot

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of pine trees, and it was a it was summertime.

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And we went down a series of stairs that had

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a lot of switchbacks because it was a tall, steep hill,

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and at the bottom there's a hammock for two and

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we're just laying there, you know, just just enjoying the night,

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you know, warm summer night, a lot of ambient light.

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You can hear the water in the creek going by,

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you know, very very peaceful and relaxing, and the most

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embarrassing thing. While we were there, I just suddenly, you know,

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this is like twenty five years later plus, We're sitting

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in the hammock just looking up at the stars, and

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I just had this overwhelming feeling like, oh my god,

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we're going to die. And I have never been so

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panic stricken as I was in that moment. And I

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told her we got to go, now, we got to go.

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And that was the longest flight of stairs that I've

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ever taken in my entire life. The the feeling of

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fear and impending doom was totally overwhelming. It was pure

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fear response. And we got back in U into the

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room and I calmed down, and for some reason, everything

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flooded back, and uh, I just paced around. She sat

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on the bed and I told her exactly what happened.

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Thank thank god. You know, she she believed me because

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that was, you know, really embarrassing. You're you're not to

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have fun, you're young, you know, and then to wig

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out like that. But she was understanding, which I appreciated. Uh.

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And it's like, uh, I don't know why that particular moment,

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since I had been out in the woods hunting and

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fishing so often to this day, I would love to

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know why it took that particular time for that triggering

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event to happen, because I had been out in the woods,

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you know, camping growing up in small town Missouri. That's

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what you did back in the eighties, is you you know, hunted, fished,

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and cruised and that was it. So I don't know

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why that environment triggered it, but it did, and I

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immediately started to convince myself it didn't happen. And I

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tend to go with Okham's razor. The simplest solution is

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more often than not the correct that's the way to go,

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and that's pretty much served me well in life, so

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I thought, okay, nightmare, false memory, mentioning it, you know, misidentification.

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And I literally spent years trying to convince myself that

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this didn't happen. And it was like a major war

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going on inside my brain. I was just utterly doing

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everything possible convince myself it didn't happen, but I know

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it did. I didn't talk about it to anyone for

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probably another twenty years, and you know when I did,

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I immediately got judged, ridiculed and shot down. You know.

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It's like like I don't know if many bear in Nebraska,

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you know, in the seventies up until now, or they

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just blew it off. And that includes family, and some

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of the family were much harder on me than anyone else,

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you know, they I really got mocked for it. So

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I learned to, you know, be be quiet about it.

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I don't know at what point in time in my

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life I finally was able to accept, Okay, this did happen.

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And ever since I could remember it, I haven't gone hunting,

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I haven't gone fishing, camping, hiking. You know. My encounters

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were not epic, they were not violent, but they left

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the mark and it took my joy away, or a

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part of it, because I would respectfully suggest to everyone listening,

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and this may sound hypocritical, enjoying nature and getting out

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and getting out of the rat race can be You

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can have the most wonderful, amazing moments of your life.

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And it's all very simple. You know, you're enjoying nature,

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you're out with friends. That was taken from me, and

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I feel really weak minded and feeble. Then it's affected

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me so much when you know, it wasn't like ten

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feet away, it was like sixty feet away. I couldn't

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make out the face, but it was in perfect silhouette.

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And from that moment forward, I watched a ton of

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stuff on a YouTube TV. Pretty much everything I watch

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is usually Sasquatch related. And you know, years past that

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relationship ended, and me and my son lived in Phoenix,

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Arizona for quite a while, and then we moved to

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a small town in Georgia and we've been here for

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several years now. It's a really small town called Sylvania,

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and I am surrounded by woods. But I had gotten

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used to incorporating this into my mind, and I was

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getting more comfortable. And when I say getting comfortable, I

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wouldn't run as a fiftieth year old man to the

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front door to my car at night. You know, that

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was like a big deal for me. I know it wasn't,

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but for me it was. And then the you know,

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so things were going pretty well and then this next

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event that happened. And the only reason I know this

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is on my Facebook. I was going back and it

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was on February fourteenth, I commented on this, so I

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know it was winter and it was another sunny day.

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It was you know, winter, so it was cold, but

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the sun was out. And standing out front of my yard,

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I'm surrounded by trees, you know, Georgia a lot of forestland,

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and I'm looking to the left by the propane tank

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and I see two furry legs from like the knees down,

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walking from left to right through the brush.

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Big for society will be right back after these messages.

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And I, uh, my jaw dropped and just like the

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last time I turned towards this thing, and both encounters

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there were no uh, no smells, no sounds, nothing. It

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was like stealth mode. But what got me so I

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see these and these were black. This was black hair.

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It didn't seem to have massive muscular legs, you know,

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from the knee down. But I clearly saw it through

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the clearing of the brush, and it is the strangest thing.

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It's takes a few steps and then it stops, and

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I can see the legs turned to face me, and

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if I had looked up, I probably would have seen

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more of it. I'm actually glad I didn't. But my

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honest opinion is it was like, oh, the ugly, you know,

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hairless pink monkey sees me and it immediately turns around

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and runs back the way it came. But ed took

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off with the burst of speed instantaneously, And I wish

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I would have had a device that could have timed

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this thing, because it took two or three steps and

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then it was a literal blur. I'm not saying it disappeared.

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I am I two encounters. I did not have anything

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I've heard about the War of the Wu. Some people

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think they're supernatural. Who am I to tell anyone their experience,

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But in my opinion, I think they're more supernatural. I

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think they're so adapted to their environment and they're so

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adverse in general, you know, to us noticing them, that

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they're able to hide really well, and I think they

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have strength and speed that moments of high stress, and

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I know what those high stressed moments are like that

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I could perceive that it just disappeared, but I think

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it just took off with such a burst of speed.

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Now what's really weird is so you know, I've incorporated

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this memory into my psyche and I'm, you know, doing okay,

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and then this happens, and then good lord, then the

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house slapping starts. This was like two to three nights later.

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00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:31.240
It always happened in the middle of the night, and

451
00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:35.160
it always happened in my son's room, and it wasn't

452
00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:39.200
really loud, but it was a pretty good impact on

453
00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:42.119
the side of the house. And if I would make

454
00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:47.559
one suggestion to anyone visiting Georgia is do not go

455
00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:52.519
to someone's house between two and three am in the

456
00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:56.599
morning and slapped their house. Because the gun culture is

457
00:33:56.640 --> 00:34:01.640
big here. I've got guns. You know, it's a very

458
00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:10.639
polite and general civilized, you know culture. But when it

459
00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:13.320
comes to your house, you're they're going to shoot first,

460
00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:17.599
and you know they'll they're not going to ask questions.

461
00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:20.599
They'll answer questions from the cop when the corner picks

462
00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:23.880
you up. And I was like, you know, my first

463
00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:27.119
thought was, well, you know, we've got a deranged deer

464
00:34:27.239 --> 00:34:33.480
or something that's repeatedly slapping the house. And eventually, and

465
00:34:33.519 --> 00:34:35.400
I don't know why it took me so long, but

466
00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:39.440
eventually I call the cops and a cop came out

467
00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:41.920
and I did lie to the cop. I got to

468
00:34:41.960 --> 00:34:45.440
put that out there. I told the cop. A few

469
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:48.960
days ago, I saw someone in a gilly suit. I

470
00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:51.880
only saw it from the knees down, and it was

471
00:34:51.880 --> 00:34:56.239
a black gilly suit, which would make no sense. You know,

472
00:34:56.400 --> 00:34:58.679
if you want to hide in the brush, black is

473
00:34:58.679 --> 00:35:03.719
not going to do it in Georgia. He had a flashlight.

474
00:35:03.880 --> 00:35:09.360
He searched the area and he didn't see anything. I

475
00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:13.280
didn't expect him to, but that uh, And I don't

476
00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:15.400
know how many days this nights. This had got on

477
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:19.519
before I called the cop, but was really interesting. I

478
00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:23.679
was like, and I asked the cop, listen, I feel threatened.

479
00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:27.280
You know, I've got my son and a bonus son

480
00:35:27.320 --> 00:35:33.159
I'm helping to care for. Also, I feel threatened. You

481
00:35:33.199 --> 00:35:36.239
know that to me, that's an aggressive display. Am I

482
00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:41.159
okay to shoot? And the cop said, well, you got

483
00:35:41.199 --> 00:35:44.199
to feel like you're in danger. But if you feel

484
00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:47.000
like you're in danger, you can, you know, but just

485
00:35:47.079 --> 00:35:50.880
try to exercise good judgment. And we're talking and I'm

486
00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:55.199
talking about the uh, the house being slammed. What was

487
00:35:55.280 --> 00:36:00.199
real interesting, as the cops said, what I would suggest

488
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:04.440
is getting a game cam and or a couple of them.

489
00:36:04.679 --> 00:36:07.000
And we've got two bushes on either side of the

490
00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:12.679
house and pushing the cameras right, they'll point over the

491
00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:15.960
yard into the woodline. And he said, you need to

492
00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:19.800
get some game cams and put them up and maybe

493
00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:24.239
it'll stop. And I just thought, you know what, I

494
00:36:24.360 --> 00:36:26.719
know what I'm talking about, and I think you know

495
00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:30.000
what I'm talking about too. I was really dancing around

496
00:36:30.039 --> 00:36:34.599
because in a small town, the speed of light has

497
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:37.400
nothing on the gossip mill of a small town. It

498
00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:42.320
exceeds the speed of light by a dozen. And I

499
00:36:42.320 --> 00:36:44.400
didn't want to be a laughing stock, so that's why

500
00:36:44.440 --> 00:36:45.760
I lied and said it was a guy in a

501
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:49.079
gilly suit. But I thought that was real interesting. He

502
00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:53.320
suggested the game cam, you know that that may stop it,

503
00:36:53.360 --> 00:36:56.760
and I was like, I think we're on the same wavelength,

504
00:36:57.480 --> 00:36:59.159
but neither of us are going to cop to it.

505
00:36:59.239 --> 00:37:09.440
Pardon the pun, and my take on it is, and

506
00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:12.400
I have no proof of this. I think it was

507
00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:17.360
a juvenile possibly, and I think it got tip that

508
00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:20.360
I saw it, and it decided to slap the house

509
00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:23.800
for a number of nights. You know, just I don't

510
00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:26.400
know what these things are, but I think it wanted

511
00:37:26.400 --> 00:37:29.760
to get a rise out of me. And another thing

512
00:37:29.800 --> 00:37:32.760
that happened, since I'm such a light sleeper and I'm

513
00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:35.480
a sofa sleeper, I went slept in the bed for years.

514
00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:39.559
I don't know why I love sofa so much, but

515
00:37:41.880 --> 00:37:44.039
like right now, I'm looking out. I've got quite a

516
00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:45.960
few windows in the living room and I'm looking in

517
00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:50.880
the yard. There were several nights where I would wake

518
00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:55.480
up to filling the impact of heavy footfalls on the ground,

519
00:37:56.519 --> 00:38:00.000
like real heavy. But what's strange is I felt the impact,

520
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:04.000
but I didn't hear anything. And I'm not saying there's

521
00:38:04.039 --> 00:38:11.480
anything supernatural involved. I don't know, but there are several

522
00:38:11.559 --> 00:38:14.639
nights in a row where I was waking up by

523
00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:18.360
what I felt the impact on the sofa as I'm sleeping,

524
00:38:18.360 --> 00:38:25.960
and it immediately woke me up, and you know, so

525
00:38:26.280 --> 00:38:31.320
you know, time has passed since then. I had one friend.

526
00:38:31.639 --> 00:38:36.760
Her name was Nora. She since passed through COVID, and

527
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:39.280
you know, we were friends and I told her my

528
00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:45.239
story and she handled it well. She said, you know, Michael,

529
00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:51.119
I have no doubt what you experience, you believe you experienced.

530
00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:57.000
And I thought, you know what, that is perfect? She said,

531
00:38:57.079 --> 00:39:00.000
you know, I wasn't there, so I cannot tell you

532
00:39:02.039 --> 00:39:04.719
if what you saw it was an actually adventure not.

533
00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:10.519
But I thought there is no better politically correct answer

534
00:39:10.519 --> 00:39:13.840
to give someone than that, just to say, you know,

535
00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:20.800
maybe it's possible. And then time goes by and my

536
00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:25.440
current girlfriend's I hit the pay dirt with her. She

537
00:39:25.599 --> 00:39:29.719
is amazing. The only thing I questioned her on is

538
00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:33.880
why she is with me, I really do But I

539
00:39:33.920 --> 00:39:37.280
told her about the subject and she was into it also.

540
00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:40.239
I was like, man, I hit the mother lord with us.

541
00:39:40.360 --> 00:39:44.480
This is awesome. And she told me she had an enkilter.

542
00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:47.639
And it's just amazing that when you talk to people,

543
00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:52.320
how it will set off a memory or you know,

544
00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:54.559
someone will say, yeah, this happened to me, or this

545
00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:58.480
happened you never know. You know, it could be someone

546
00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:03.079
you know giving you a total raft because you're talking

547
00:40:03.119 --> 00:40:07.320
about your experience but maybe they're in denial of what

548
00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:11.239
they saw or what they experienced. But my girlfriend had

549
00:40:11.719 --> 00:40:16.920
to me this was a real horrific encounter. She lives

550
00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:22.280
hours north of here, and I think she's been in

551
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:26.559
Georgia her whole life. But she was in I think

552
00:40:26.639 --> 00:40:31.440
the living room, and she noticed a window and two

553
00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:36.159
red eyes were looking in on her. And she was little,

554
00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:42.199
and she immediately freaked out. Who wouldn't you know, glowing

555
00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:47.320
red eyes are not something you psych yourself up to

556
00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:51.559
see or prepare for. She ran to her room and

557
00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:56.400
told her sister, and her sister came out, and sure enough,

558
00:40:56.519 --> 00:41:01.960
it was totally dark, but she saw two burning red

559
00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:06.119
eyes just looking around and they just tottled in the

560
00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:14.199
room until their I think their parents were out. I

561
00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:17.199
think I don't the story wrong, but they were scared,

562
00:41:17.320 --> 00:41:21.440
and I think she told her dad, and I think

563
00:41:21.480 --> 00:41:24.880
her dad reasoned it off. And her dad sounds like

564
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:27.400
a really solid guy, so I don't think he was

565
00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:32.679
ignoring her. I think he was just, you know, we

566
00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:34.960
all have our view of reality and we try to,

567
00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:39.159
you know, put the square in the square shaped hoole.

568
00:41:40.559 --> 00:41:44.400
And I don't know why I asked this, but I

569
00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:48.599
always remember from the likeet creeks, you know, that famous thing.

570
00:41:48.679 --> 00:41:52.280
He always follows the creek. And I asked her, I'm

571
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:54.679
going to guess you had a creek or a river

572
00:41:55.519 --> 00:41:59.119
close by you, Is that right? And she was like yeah.

573
00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:04.960
So it's really amazing to me that you can talk

574
00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:08.360
to people and a number of times they'll have experiences.

575
00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:11.400
I've got If you don't mind, I could tell you

576
00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:15.039
a real quick one in Ohio of someone I never

577
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:17.960
expected to talk about it. That's okay, it's a bit

578
00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:18.719
more grim.

579
00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:19.480
Sure.

580
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:29.400
Me and my son lived in Statesboro, Arkansas, and it

581
00:42:29.480 --> 00:42:33.119
seems we get all the streets. So he has a friend,

582
00:42:33.719 --> 00:42:36.159
you know, family life isn't that good. So we take

583
00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:40.639
him in and I'm talking to his mom and the

584
00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:44.599
subject came up and she related to me an experience

585
00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:50.679
they had. They were in Ohio. I can't remember where.

586
00:42:51.000 --> 00:42:53.760
I wish, I wish I could, but I can't remember

587
00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:57.800
the name of the town. They were on a pro

588
00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:04.000
and the woodline, you know, abutted the property, you know,

589
00:43:04.960 --> 00:43:10.159
within ten twenty feet, and it was evening and they

590
00:43:10.199 --> 00:43:15.000
had a horses and the fence for the horses came

591
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:19.400
up pretty close the house and all the horses were there.

592
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:22.480
The dog just had some pups. They were all sitting

593
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:25.440
out and joining the evening, and they were looking down

594
00:43:25.480 --> 00:43:28.760
on a well worn trail and they caught a perfect

595
00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:34.920
silhouette of silhouette of something huge and monstrous standing up.

596
00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:38.920
All they could say had black hair, and the fear

597
00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:42.519
hit them and she just said, you know, quit, get

598
00:43:42.559 --> 00:43:45.079
the dogs in the house, Get in the house. They

599
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:47.719
get in the house, and they noticed all the horses

600
00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:52.000
immediately tear off for the other end of the fence line.

601
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:58.039
And they didn't even want to look and see what

602
00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:02.480
this thing was or know more about it. She said

603
00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:10.639
it was absolutely huge, really tall, dark hair. Limbs were huge.

604
00:44:12.039 --> 00:44:14.280
And she said that a number of days later, nothing

605
00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:18.719
happened at her house. But some friends of theirs had

606
00:44:18.760 --> 00:44:23.360
some chicken farms, and what was happening is they were

607
00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:30.239
losing dozens or scores of chickens and something was getting

608
00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:38.280
into the I don't know modern chicken farming techniques, but

609
00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:41.639
I know they have, you know, large buildings they usually

610
00:44:41.719 --> 00:44:45.119
keep them in. And they said their neighbor was complaining

611
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:48.920
because they would come out in the morning and he

612
00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:53.440
would have dozens of chickens all around and with their

613
00:44:53.480 --> 00:44:58.000
necks ripped off or the necks always mangled. Nothing was eaten,

614
00:44:58.280 --> 00:45:02.480
but it was everywhere. So that was another instance. I'm like,

615
00:45:02.559 --> 00:45:07.599
you just never know what you may hear by talking

616
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:10.679
about it, and hopefully it made her feel a little

617
00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:15.679
less nuts about their encounter, because I do think talking

618
00:45:15.719 --> 00:45:21.639
about it it is a good thing. And that's brought

619
00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:24.320
me up to the here and now and I'm talking

620
00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:25.599
to you big.

621
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:45.639
For Society will be right back after these messages, Michael.

622
00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:50.920
Thank you for sharing what you've experienced over these years,

623
00:45:50.920 --> 00:45:57.400
some really fascinating accounts. As we were talking before the interview,

624
00:45:57.679 --> 00:46:01.000
I don't hear a lot from Nebraska, and that is

625
00:46:01.199 --> 00:46:05.039
just a really interesting account that you shared. And even

626
00:46:05.079 --> 00:46:07.599
though you know you were saying, you know, it's not

627
00:46:08.679 --> 00:46:14.280
super scary or whatever. The thing. The thing I tend

628
00:46:14.280 --> 00:46:19.639
to focus on is that these encounters are occurring to

629
00:46:19.880 --> 00:46:24.320
just normal people in normal situations. For you, you were

630
00:46:24.360 --> 00:46:28.119
eight years old at a dude ranch in Nebraska, kind

631
00:46:28.159 --> 00:46:31.000
of like in a summer camp type setting on a

632
00:46:31.079 --> 00:46:38.079
horse trip. There it happened very very interesting stuff. Are

633
00:46:38.119 --> 00:46:42.960
you able to to share Was it more the eastern

634
00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:45.239
side or western side of Nebraska?

635
00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:49.840
Or you know what I have spent for as the

636
00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:54.400
million dollar question, Jeremiah, I have spent so much time

637
00:46:54.519 --> 00:46:59.400
perusing the internet because about two miles away we'd walk there.

638
00:47:00.039 --> 00:47:05.800
They had a rebuilt Western town. It was a few buildings,

639
00:47:05.840 --> 00:47:07.599
but they had a saloon the kids would go in

640
00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:11.599
and they had soft drinks, ice cream. And I have

641
00:47:12.119 --> 00:47:16.519
looked at every picture of every small Western town and

642
00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:21.480
recreation and I cannot find it. It's lost to the

643
00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:25.719
sands of time. All I know is my parents must

644
00:47:25.800 --> 00:47:27.920
have really wanted to get rid of me for two

645
00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:32.159
weeks because we were in Omaha and it was like,

646
00:47:33.199 --> 00:47:36.639
I'm going to estimate like a four hour drive. And

647
00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:45.159
even though Omaha is pretty open, there is woodland, and

648
00:47:45.400 --> 00:47:49.760
I could see where these things could travel at night,

649
00:47:51.119 --> 00:47:54.079
you know, bed down during the day and not be

650
00:47:54.159 --> 00:47:58.159
seen because there is a lot there's open land, but

651
00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:03.639
there's a lot of it sparsely populated. So all I

652
00:48:03.719 --> 00:48:09.719
know roughly, and I've even scoured maps hoping to find

653
00:48:10.320 --> 00:48:14.000
you of something that happened, you know, God, forty eight

654
00:48:14.079 --> 00:48:17.400
years ago. God, I'm fifty six, I'm old, and I

655
00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:19.599
cannot find anything on it. Now.

656
00:48:19.679 --> 00:48:22.960
It's a it's a mystery that listeners can try to

657
00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:29.199
solve is where's the missing dude Ranch in Nebraska? That

658
00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:33.480
would have been about a four hour drive from Omaha,

659
00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:38.280
and you know the timeframe, so yeah, that's could be.

660
00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:42.639
Yeah, interesting dude ranch photos. I've tried to pull up

661
00:48:42.719 --> 00:48:46.960
dude Ranch seventies Omaha and you know, or just Nebraska.

662
00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:50.320
The building itself wasn't big and it was cinder block.

663
00:48:51.239 --> 00:48:53.480
I don't know if the land has been cleared, you know,

664
00:48:53.719 --> 00:48:56.960
you know, it's been decades later. But if I knew

665
00:48:56.960 --> 00:49:01.000
where it was, I would literally save my money and

666
00:49:01.159 --> 00:49:03.039
take a trip just to go back there. And I

667
00:49:03.079 --> 00:49:09.360
have no idea why I would engage in like a

668
00:49:09.400 --> 00:49:16.480
twenty hour drive, but for some reason, I guess it

669
00:49:16.480 --> 00:49:21.199
would just be completing the circle. It's like, I'm still

670
00:49:21.280 --> 00:49:25.280
here and my encounter was a violent Thank God. There's

671
00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:28.519
a lot more hair raising stories, but I do think

672
00:49:29.239 --> 00:49:35.199
it does leave an indelible mark on each person because

673
00:49:35.239 --> 00:49:42.159
it is a really paradigm shifting event. You know, as

674
00:49:42.199 --> 00:49:46.119
I said, the birth of my son, one moment the world,

675
00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:54.559
your worldview is facing south, and the next minute your

676
00:49:54.599 --> 00:50:03.199
worldview is north. And operating that for me has probably

677
00:50:03.199 --> 00:50:09.920
been the biggest challenge. I don't doubt myself more. I

678
00:50:09.960 --> 00:50:15.880
know it happened. I would just hope all your listeners

679
00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:19.039
would realize. And I don't think I'm special, you know,

680
00:50:19.119 --> 00:50:22.320
I wasn't chosen to see this. Honestly, I wish it

681
00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:27.119
happened either time, but it did. I would just hope

682
00:50:27.119 --> 00:50:31.480
that they would feel comfortable to come forward and talk

683
00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:35.239
about it, because this it has been cathartic, you know,

684
00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:37.480
talking about it. It really does help.

685
00:50:39.440 --> 00:50:41.519
And I'm glad you brought that up because that was

686
00:50:41.559 --> 00:50:44.440
actually something that I was going to ask you. Is

687
00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:47.880
you know that you've you've been through so much ridicule

688
00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:52.440
and people mocking and even close family members have been

689
00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:56.840
the worst, and you know why you start sharing now,

690
00:50:56.920 --> 00:51:01.719
But you just answered yourself. It's uh, it's very helpful

691
00:51:01.840 --> 00:51:04.599
in your personal situation to go through it.

692
00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:08.960
And I've always told my son and this is a

693
00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:13.719
bitter pill for everybody, but I think everyone you know

694
00:51:14.280 --> 00:51:19.039
grasped this concept. Just because someone is blood does not

695
00:51:19.559 --> 00:51:23.920
mean their family, and just because they're not blood does

696
00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:27.760
not mean they cannot be family. Does that make sense?

697
00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:30.280
That's one of the smart I mean, that's one of

698
00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:32.440
the best lessons you can learn to be honest.

699
00:51:32.639 --> 00:51:38.280
Yeah, yeah, and decades. But I am the I am

700
00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:41.880
the smartest dumb person out there. I'm very well book read,

701
00:51:41.920 --> 00:51:45.960
but it's about it. For practical application of knowledge, I'm

702
00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:46.800
a total loss.

703
00:51:47.519 --> 00:51:49.679
I'm right there with you, friend.

704
00:51:49.800 --> 00:51:54.920
I'm really curious about your thought on this. And it's

705
00:51:54.920 --> 00:52:00.320
the million dollar question. Everyone asks what you know, because

706
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:04.840
your knowledge is a lot broader than mine. What do

707
00:52:04.880 --> 00:52:08.559
you think these things are? And I know there's a

708
00:52:08.599 --> 00:52:11.559
million a million people have a million different answers. There's

709
00:52:11.639 --> 00:52:15.039
no right one, there's no experts. And if someone claims

710
00:52:15.039 --> 00:52:18.039
to please run for the holes, too many of them

711
00:52:18.039 --> 00:52:20.440
out there. They're just curious. And I don't mean to

712
00:52:20.800 --> 00:52:24.559
spout I hope it's okay to ask that. I'm just curious.

713
00:52:24.559 --> 00:52:29.000
To me, they're they're flesh and blood and they're not

714
00:52:29.039 --> 00:52:35.280
to be trusted. I really don't like how they seem

715
00:52:35.320 --> 00:52:38.639
to take an interest in children, and I've heard enough

716
00:52:38.679 --> 00:52:46.840
negative encounters to where they're out there my experiences. They're

717
00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:51.960
flesh and blood. That's all I know. But I I

718
00:52:51.960 --> 00:52:54.079
would not trust one as far as I could throw one,

719
00:52:54.519 --> 00:52:55.480
which is no.

720
00:52:57.840 --> 00:53:01.920
It's a it's a really interesting question. It is the

721
00:53:01.920 --> 00:53:05.320
the thing that does always get brought up. And it's

722
00:53:05.320 --> 00:53:09.800
so interesting because as you get involved with things and

723
00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:13.760
maybe start to go places and experience things and read

724
00:53:13.960 --> 00:53:17.000
and talk to people, this can all change. But I

725
00:53:17.039 --> 00:53:20.960
would say right now, you know, I am looking at

726
00:53:20.960 --> 00:53:24.400
it through it is some It is a physical being,

727
00:53:25.800 --> 00:53:33.480
but that has some really interesting abilities that science might

728
00:53:33.559 --> 00:53:36.719
not know how to wrap its mind around, except for

729
00:53:37.079 --> 00:53:42.719
if it's fringe science. And that can change in the

730
00:53:42.760 --> 00:53:46.480
future as I'm going through things before. If you're to

731
00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:50.079
ask me today which you are, that that is what

732
00:53:51.000 --> 00:53:56.800
is going to is going to be said. Now I

733
00:53:57.079 --> 00:53:59.519
can hear what you're saying there. It's so interesting. There's

734
00:53:59.519 --> 00:54:02.679
so many stories and accounts out there, and you know,

735
00:54:02.719 --> 00:54:04.920
you do have things that are similar to like what

736
00:54:04.960 --> 00:54:08.679
you've said. But on the other hand, there are also

737
00:54:09.480 --> 00:54:13.800
some accounts where you have the the young child that

738
00:54:13.960 --> 00:54:18.079
was found after being alone in the woods for days

739
00:54:18.119 --> 00:54:24.119
and says something to the effect of the kind teddy bear,

740
00:54:24.960 --> 00:54:27.880
you know, save me. That kind of thing that makes

741
00:54:27.880 --> 00:54:28.840
you wonder, right.

742
00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:33.000
It doesn't if my memory serves that was in the winter.

743
00:54:33.920 --> 00:54:38.280
Bears are hibernating in the winner and one wa except

744
00:54:38.280 --> 00:54:42.800
from its torpor. I'm thinking that it's going to see

745
00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:45.960
a child as a food source. I would have loved

746
00:54:45.960 --> 00:54:48.199
to have been there and shown that child pictures. I

747
00:54:48.199 --> 00:54:51.480
don't want to. I wouldn't want to traumatize the poor kid.

748
00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:57.360
But I well put pictures of bears, bison and then

749
00:54:57.440 --> 00:55:01.199
go to like gorillas and monkeys and see what did

750
00:55:01.199 --> 00:55:04.920
the pair look like? You know? And Uh, I am

751
00:55:04.960 --> 00:55:07.599
the biggest hypocrite, or I used to be at one

752
00:55:07.679 --> 00:55:11.880
time because whenever I heard WU, I ran for the hills.

753
00:55:12.199 --> 00:55:19.159
But I'm slowly beginning to think maybe there's something more

754
00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:23.440
more to these things. Then, as you said, perfectly, science

755
00:55:24.559 --> 00:55:30.800
uh is unable to uh happen right now? Uh? I

756
00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:36.679
remember the uh North American Wood Ape Conservancies. Did you

757
00:55:36.719 --> 00:55:38.960
hear about tag number seve them? Oh?

758
00:55:39.039 --> 00:55:41.519
Yeah, no, that's a that's a great report people can

759
00:55:41.920 --> 00:55:44.679
read on on their website. Yeah, it's fantastic.

760
00:55:44.920 --> 00:55:47.599
Yeah. And they didn't have all the data points, but

761
00:55:47.639 --> 00:55:50.960
they took it to biologists and the biologists just mirrored it,

762
00:55:50.960 --> 00:55:53.599
and I'm like, you know, it was on the low

763
00:55:53.760 --> 00:55:58.800
end of data data points. That amazes me that with

764
00:55:59.000 --> 00:56:03.199
all the history that it just are so shut off

765
00:56:03.239 --> 00:56:09.199
to it, except like Bender, nagele Meldrum and either of

766
00:56:09.199 --> 00:56:15.159
this is the greatest hoax of mankind. Patterson, Gimwood would

767
00:56:15.400 --> 00:56:19.000
have nothing. You know, this has been going on for

768
00:56:19.079 --> 00:56:25.559
hundreds of years. The ancient pictographs of I believe a bigfoot,

769
00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:29.480
a female and a young one on a cave somewhere.

770
00:56:30.320 --> 00:56:33.599
And it seems like every well not every, but so

771
00:56:33.679 --> 00:56:38.159
many native tribes have names, have stories good, some are bad.

772
00:56:39.039 --> 00:56:41.880
And I really like the old historical accounts of like

773
00:56:41.960 --> 00:56:46.880
from the eighteen hundreds, and I'm like you the cabal

774
00:56:47.880 --> 00:56:52.480
of people that are putting on the biggest hoax. So

775
00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:55.960
there's something to it, and I just I tend to

776
00:56:56.000 --> 00:56:58.360
go that there is something going on, and to me,

777
00:56:58.440 --> 00:57:02.960
there's enough evidence. I wish science would turn to it.

778
00:57:03.000 --> 00:57:05.840
But you know, I don't know if they don't know

779
00:57:05.920 --> 00:57:10.320
about these things, and just revealing that I would love

780
00:57:10.400 --> 00:57:15.159
and know the reason if they're holding that secret, why

781
00:57:15.159 --> 00:57:16.679
they're holding on to it.

782
00:57:16.679 --> 00:57:19.880
It would be really interesting. I think most listeners are

783
00:57:20.320 --> 00:57:22.840
right there with you, but you know, there's a few

784
00:57:22.920 --> 00:57:27.800
other Yeah, there's a there's another question that I did

785
00:57:27.840 --> 00:57:32.199
want to ask you. That muddy handprint is really interesting.

786
00:57:32.880 --> 00:57:38.599
Have you ever seen another handprint, Like, is this anything

787
00:57:38.639 --> 00:57:41.840
where you've studied to see if you can find anything

788
00:57:41.920 --> 00:57:43.239
similar to that or.

789
00:57:44.840 --> 00:57:50.800
You know, really interesting question, and I have not. I've

790
00:57:50.840 --> 00:57:54.119
seen nature shows like on chimps and things like that,

791
00:57:55.360 --> 00:57:59.400
or like gorillas, and I've noticed the hands part of

792
00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:03.400
that still disturbs me. And I think that's maybe why

793
00:58:03.440 --> 00:58:06.440
to this day, I still haven't researched that, because that

794
00:58:06.559 --> 00:58:10.840
handprint was just real eerie, the sheer size of it

795
00:58:11.360 --> 00:58:16.320
and the s placement was just wrong. That's the best

796
00:58:16.320 --> 00:58:22.920
word I could use it. It was wrong. And wow. Yeah,

797
00:58:23.079 --> 00:58:27.280
part of me thinks their abominations, and a bigger part

798
00:58:27.320 --> 00:58:32.000
of me is it's in the unknown category. Everything is

799
00:58:32.920 --> 00:58:37.840
speculation on these things, even the Patterson Gimlin film, you know,

800
00:58:38.000 --> 00:58:41.480
film one hundred people have one hundred different views on it.

801
00:58:42.599 --> 00:58:45.519
The one thing I think that makes it legit, you know,

802
00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:51.840
and this is just my own opinion, is when Patty walks,

803
00:58:53.119 --> 00:58:57.119
there's like a couple of frames where you see the

804
00:58:57.280 --> 00:59:02.559
impact tremor running from this calf to the thigh. And

805
00:59:04.119 --> 00:59:08.480
I don't see how an iact muscula sure impact shremor

806
00:59:08.599 --> 00:59:14.559
could be duplicated. Back in sixty seven, when the best

807
00:59:14.599 --> 00:59:16.360
thing they had were pointed to the apes.

808
00:59:20.320 --> 00:59:25.199
It is one of those pieces of information that does

809
00:59:25.280 --> 00:59:29.679
get brought up quite a bit. And yeah, that is

810
00:59:30.199 --> 00:59:33.559
a whole conversation in itself, but you know, my friend

811
00:59:33.639 --> 00:59:37.159
Jonathan easily brings that up a lot where you know,

812
00:59:37.719 --> 00:59:43.199
look at the muscles moving when it moves in that film.

813
00:59:43.280 --> 00:59:49.159
It's pretty incredible. Reminds me when you saw the one

814
00:59:49.480 --> 00:59:55.320
move away down the hill and then into the haller

815
00:59:55.480 --> 00:59:58.840
and then into the brush. I believe did you notice

816
00:59:59.039 --> 01:00:04.519
any in interesting movements that were that seemed unique while

817
01:00:04.519 --> 01:00:06.199
you were watching it or was it just a little

818
01:00:06.239 --> 01:00:08.679
bit too far away to notice those details.

819
01:00:09.760 --> 01:00:13.880
No, it was about sixty feet, so for me it

820
01:00:13.920 --> 01:00:16.679
was really close, closer I ever wanted to be. I didn't.

821
01:00:17.199 --> 01:00:21.840
I didn't ask to see this. It did glide. It

822
01:00:22.320 --> 01:00:25.239
was like going down an escalator. It was so smooth.

823
01:00:27.360 --> 01:00:36.079
It was like a piece of silk and a light breeze,

824
01:00:36.519 --> 01:00:41.599
if that makes sense. It was very smooth and fluid,

825
01:00:42.400 --> 01:00:45.960
and it was like going down an escalator. And you know,

826
01:00:46.039 --> 01:00:51.920
it wasn't false. So the ground there was no well

827
01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:54.079
there was no tree debris to make noises. But I

828
01:00:54.119 --> 01:00:57.880
didn't hear a tree snap or anything. Didn't smell anything.

829
01:00:57.920 --> 01:01:03.800
But yeah, you asked that because I forgot to mention that.

830
01:01:03.880 --> 01:01:11.440
But yeah, it moved really smooth it. It didn't move

831
01:01:11.679 --> 01:01:17.079
like a The proportions were way off, but it didn't

832
01:01:17.159 --> 01:01:21.559
move like a human did. It was like on an escalator,

833
01:01:21.639 --> 01:01:22.559
if that makes sense.

834
01:01:24.719 --> 01:01:28.440
It definitely does make sense. It's nothing that I've seen myself,

835
01:01:28.480 --> 01:01:31.880
but it fits with the other accounts I've heard. But

836
01:01:31.920 --> 01:01:35.800
the way that you described it with the piece of

837
01:01:35.920 --> 01:01:42.159
silk is just really helps you imagine it even even more,

838
01:01:42.280 --> 01:01:46.800
especially for someone like myself who hasn't experienced that personally.

839
01:01:46.840 --> 01:01:53.079
But that is extremely extremely interesting and just also to

840
01:01:53.599 --> 01:01:57.199
verify when you got back to the dude ranch, this

841
01:01:57.360 --> 01:02:00.719
was not discussed at all with anyone, correct.

842
01:02:01.599 --> 01:02:04.880
Not at all. And I don't know. I think I

843
01:02:04.920 --> 01:02:09.320
blocked it out, uh because I honestly feel like, uh,

844
01:02:11.000 --> 01:02:13.599
within a day or two I went about my you know,

845
01:02:13.679 --> 01:02:16.840
typical eight year old stuff, doing things that a dude

846
01:02:16.880 --> 01:02:20.159
ranch in the woods. But I never said a word

847
01:02:20.239 --> 01:02:24.559
because my first and biggest thought is I going to

848
01:02:24.599 --> 01:02:29.880
get teased so bad? How would I how to even

849
01:02:29.920 --> 01:02:33.519
explain what happened? I I, you know, I don't know

850
01:02:33.639 --> 01:02:39.000
what I believe in no, no, I know saw squatcher

851
01:02:39.079 --> 01:02:42.119
out there. I've seen two of them, but I don't

852
01:02:42.199 --> 01:02:45.880
know what they are. And the first big thing is

853
01:02:45.920 --> 01:02:49.039
I didn't want to be teased or ridicule culed, and

854
01:02:49.079 --> 01:02:50.880
the second one at the time, I don't think I

855
01:02:50.880 --> 01:02:58.239
would have been able to verbalize what I saw. And

856
01:02:58.320 --> 01:03:02.119
what gets me is how it's so amazing how the

857
01:03:02.199 --> 01:03:05.159
mind works that you could totally block it off for

858
01:03:05.280 --> 01:03:08.360
years until some triggering event. And I don't like to

859
01:03:08.440 --> 01:03:12.639
use the word PTSD because I feel like that's disrespectful

860
01:03:12.639 --> 01:03:16.840
to service members, but I think it was, you know,

861
01:03:18.760 --> 01:03:20.960
a form of that. I think I had blocked it

862
01:03:21.000 --> 01:03:26.400
off and for whatever reason, decades later, the particular event

863
01:03:26.440 --> 01:03:33.880
triggered it became crashing back. Have you had a lot

864
01:03:33.920 --> 01:03:35.599
of people that have had that? Is that a rare

865
01:03:35.679 --> 01:03:39.559
thing with people that have encountered or I haven't really

866
01:03:39.599 --> 01:03:47.119
heard anything from what I've listened to, which bothers me.

867
01:03:47.280 --> 01:03:50.320
But have you heard of that a couple of times?

868
01:03:51.039 --> 01:03:56.440
I definitely have talked to a few people where they have,

869
01:03:57.119 --> 01:04:01.519
you know, gone under hypnosis like no therapy, and they've

870
01:04:01.519 --> 01:04:07.320
been able to remember more of what they experience. I'm

871
01:04:07.400 --> 01:04:10.800
thinking of a conversation I just had. There are times

872
01:04:10.840 --> 01:04:13.639
where people, you know, it's almost they go through so

873
01:04:13.760 --> 01:04:17.880
much trauma related that their their mind suppresses it and

874
01:04:17.920 --> 01:04:21.199
then something like hypnotherapy brings it back out, which is

875
01:04:21.199 --> 01:04:24.480
really interesting. Also, the other interesting thing is that the

876
01:04:24.599 --> 01:04:29.039
area you were, Sedona, is really known for some unique things,

877
01:04:29.199 --> 01:04:34.639
especially related to energy, and it almost makes me wonder

878
01:04:34.679 --> 01:04:37.760
if maybe just because you were in the area of

879
01:04:37.800 --> 01:04:40.519
Sedona that had something to do with it. But it's

880
01:04:40.559 --> 01:04:43.360
just that's one of those, you know, hypotheticals.

881
01:04:43.400 --> 01:04:48.039
Really, I do feel if I hit the power ball,

882
01:04:48.360 --> 01:04:50.800
we are going to have a house in Georgia and

883
01:04:50.880 --> 01:04:54.599
in Sidona. It's the most beautiful place on the planet.

884
01:04:54.719 --> 01:04:58.400
But I do agree, and I felt it. I you know,

885
01:04:58.559 --> 01:05:03.920
never had any paranormal experiences in Sedona, but I loved

886
01:05:03.960 --> 01:05:09.360
it so much because, uh I just felt energized spiritually.

887
01:05:11.360 --> 01:05:16.000
And I'm I'm a Christian. Uh So I'm not you know,

888
01:05:16.039 --> 01:05:18.360
I'm not into crystals or something like that. That's if

889
01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:23.159
you are, that's fine, you know, but there was something

890
01:05:23.239 --> 01:05:29.800
there for me that, uh it was a real positive place.

891
01:05:29.840 --> 01:05:32.400
Every time I went there, I just felt energized and

892
01:05:32.440 --> 01:05:34.400
it stayed with me for you know, a couple of

893
01:05:34.400 --> 01:05:36.800
weeks until I could go back up there.

894
01:05:39.360 --> 01:05:43.480
It's extremely interesting. Yeah, there's definitely you're you're the way

895
01:05:44.360 --> 01:05:53.920
your worldview definitely affects how you view these these things

896
01:05:53.960 --> 01:05:57.800
that happened to you. That is, it's really an understatement

897
01:05:57.800 --> 01:06:01.000
because some of these, you know, when you have these encounters,

898
01:06:01.280 --> 01:06:05.960
there can be long lasting effects from them, and this

899
01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:11.360
is outside of you know, potential PTSD. But Michael, it

900
01:06:11.400 --> 01:06:15.000
has been just a pleasure talking to you today. Thank

901
01:06:15.039 --> 01:06:18.760
you for coming on the show and for sharing what

902
01:06:19.280 --> 01:06:23.719
you experienced at different times of your life over the years.

903
01:06:24.639 --> 01:06:27.960
Yeah, thank you for letting me talk at this feel

904
01:06:27.960 --> 01:06:34.760
good talking about it to this extent, because well I

905
01:06:34.800 --> 01:06:36.599
really don't talk about it anymore, but when I did,

906
01:06:36.679 --> 01:06:40.880
it was the cliff notes version, the you know, single paragraph,

907
01:06:40.880 --> 01:06:45.280
three sentence form. So I appreciate you listening to me

908
01:06:45.480 --> 01:06:49.320
because it does feel good talking about it. For whatever

909
01:06:49.400 --> 01:06:53.119
reason it does makes me. It's made me feel better today.

910
01:06:54.679 --> 01:06:57.599
I'm glad to hear that. And if you ever, you know,

911
01:06:57.760 --> 01:07:03.000
need any other help with anything related to this topic,

912
01:07:03.079 --> 01:07:05.920
you feel free to reach out and I'll do the

913
01:07:05.920 --> 01:07:09.000
most I can to try to help you. So but

914
01:07:09.280 --> 01:07:09.559
thank you.

915
01:07:09.599 --> 01:07:10.840
I really appreciate it.

916
01:07:10.880 --> 01:07:13.079
Thank you for sending an email as Ben. It's been

917
01:07:13.119 --> 01:07:14.239
fun talking to you today.

918
01:07:14.239 --> 01:07:17.719
Michael, me too, And take care and be safe out

919
01:07:17.719 --> 01:07:20.280
there and if you want to see you when, I

920
01:07:20.719 --> 01:07:25.320
truly hope you have an encounter that's being on and

921
01:07:26.760 --> 01:07:27.599
is a positive one.

922
01:07:27.679 --> 01:07:29.440
Just want to take a few minutes to say thank

923
01:07:29.480 --> 01:07:33.079
you to you all my listeners for listening to the podcast.

924
01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:36.760
Please take a minute to help out the show by

925
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YouTube with a friend. Also, if you're listening to us

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on a podcast, thank you so much. Make sure that

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you're subscribed, share the show with a friend. Really, it's

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all about sharing the show wherever you can. If you've

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had a Bigfoot encounter related to the follow up or

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know someone who has, please reach out to me at

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Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com or pass on my email.

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Here's a list the Subtle Lake area of Oregon, Rainbow Oregon,

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McKinsey Bridge area, sweet Home, pretty much that entire area,

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the north part. If you get what I mean. I'll

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see you back next time. Listeners SASA Summerfest this year

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July eleventh through the twelfth. It's going to be fantastic

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July eleventh through twelfth in Greenwaters Park and Oakridge, Oregon.

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And listeners, if you're going to go, you can get

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a two day ticket for the cost of one if

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you use the code b FS like Bigfoot Society, but

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BFS and I'll get used some off your cost. Priscilla

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was nice enough to provide that for my listeners. So

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there you go. I look forward to seeing you there,

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So make sure you head over to www dot SASA

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watch Summerfest dot com and pick up your tickets today