Every Time We Went, It Answered: Boykin Springs Bigfoot Encounters

0:00 You're listening to Big the Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us, all right, I pick the Society. We've got the privilege of talking to Ryan today. Ryan is an individual I met over on the TikTok platform, and he is on the show today regarding some really interesting experiences he's had in the Boykin Springs area of Texas, the highly active area. If anyone listening is familiar with Boykin Springs, so you are going to really enjoy what he has to say. I believe, I mean, I have full disclosure. I've heard it before. We've had this conversation on the TikTok platform. Unfortunately, that audio was non recoverable, so Thankfully I had a way to contact Ryan and he was able to come on the show so that we could get this out there to the general public.

1:14 So welcome to the show. Ryan. How are you doing today, sir? I'm doing pretty good about yourself doing great? Also, just in case I forgot to mention it, the background for yourself. During the time of this, you were in Eagle Scout correct. Yes, I was part of the Boy Scouts of America, part of two different troops in the area. Yeah. Everyone else is thought I'm crazy, but I'm glad I found a platform too that is telling me I'm not so here we are. Absolutely did before we get into it, did Bigfoot come up a lot in your your Scout training down there in that area?

1:55 I mean, aside from all the camp fire stories we would get from the dad's on camp house just trying to scare us kids, not really. It was just a lot of stories of oh yeah, if you go walk in to night, you better look out for this for this such and such animal because it will tase you down. And I'm like, I don't know about that one. Chief right, That's funny, Yeah, yeah, good, good way to put it. Brian. I would say let's let's get right into it. Feel free to take us back to these experiences that you had in the Boyk and Springs area. They're intense and they are one of the most favorite things I've heard on the show in a while. So you know, feel free, the floor is yours and take us back there.

2:43 Yeah. So it was late summer of two thousand, I guess i'd say ten twenty eleven. I was righting around with my father at the time, and we were coming down the the main stretch of Boyk and Springs Road. It cut off and part of it cuts off towards a cell phone tower because we were trying to send some pictures that we had took early in the day to to our family members, and yeah, we're coming down this one lane dirt road. We had the windows down. We were just having a conversation about Actually we were discussing the topic of bigfoot at the time, because it was one of those common interest points that we had, like we both would go out on the weekends if we ever had the time to and would try and search because we were both advent bigfoot. We're a bigfoot people and we want to understand more of how the creature interacts with everybody in the area, because hearing an experience from another person is one thing, but having your own is very is much more, much more intimate. So we were going across and I'm looking at it on a map right now. You were going across this stretch of road off of Boykin Springs Road called three thirteen

4:16 A to a cell phone tower and right in between that stretch he had you were coming across that I'd say ten miles an hour, five miles an hour at the best. We we're driving along and I'm looking out the passerside window and I saw this creature look like it had just crossed the road. He was about. It was about i'd say eight to eight and a half feet tall, broad shoulders, built like a D one college linebacker, the classic long arm, short legs, sunking in eyes with the with a with a second end face and a more ape like ape like facial features, solid black hair.

5:06 Beautiful creature. If if I had my phone out, I would have taken a snapped a really good picture of it, because I don't think anybody would believe me if I did have a picture of it. But we believe it had just crossed the road and then continued on up the hill towards towards off into a bigger thicket of woods. And that was my first instance that I had with the creature. And that's what really solidified all of the noises and sounds that I had heard previous in the area hunting and camping and whatnot. That's that's fascinating. So was that the first time that you're like, Okay, this is one hundred percent real? Was that at the time that pushed you over the edge into knowing?

5:55 Yes? Yes, that was the first time that I truly believe that we are not alone in our forests, that there is something out there, that there's something primitive out there that we don't know about. Gotcha, that was my first interact. That was the first time I saw one in the first time that I was dead set. I knew what I was looking at. Wow, I. Have a few questions about about that sighting. So did you actually see it as it walked away through two area? No, what I saw as we were driving along, because we didn't. We slowed down to about i'd say five miles an hour at this point because we both saw it.

6:48 He was on the pass He was on the right side of the vehicle, heading left to right up the hill. So I saw my dad sawt out of order his eye. We didn't stop to think about it. We just both looked at each other way, Yep, that's exactly what we saw pool and kept on trucking. But that was the first, my first time seeing one and thinking, Yep, this is exactly what I thought I was gonna This is exactly how I thought my sighting was gonna be. Just short, quick, to the point I already knew what it was. Everything just popped into my head. When the creature was walking, it did the I'm sure everybody has seen the Patterson Gamlin film, including you, Jeremiah, where the creature is mid stride and then it turns back. It's exactly how it is, exactly how I saw it. His back was to us, and I saw the immediate turn around with the head over the shoulder, and then it just kept on walking up the hill. And after that it was out of sight and I couldn't see anything else.

7:59 Did it have any certain posture when it was walking up the hill? It was a very slouched posture. Granted, his the shoulders were up, but the back had a little hunch to it, so even though they were it was in a straight almost how you could see a straight line down a human spine. You looked at it from the side profile, there was a little bit of a hunch forward. But that's also I also deemed that one to the terrain that it was walking across. To Sure, you mentioned that it was a beautiful creature to see. What were things that stuck out in your mind that that made it so beautiful to you?

8:46 Just the majestic the majesticness of seeing one after hearing stories of realizing, you know, these creatures aren't that bad, rude, they're just misunderstood. We're not understanding what they are, and then seeing one in person, it was a very awestruck feeling for me, which is why I say it was a very majestic and beautiful creature. Or say that about a lot of creatures and wildlife, but this one was definitely like the fur was this beautiful black. It was like this almost how you would see a German shepherd, just solid black hair from head to toe. And that's all I can say about that. I was very awestruck at that time, being being as young as I was an early teenager.

9:41 How was your emotional state the days after you had that sighting? My emotional state was, gee, my emotional state was very relaxed, almost. It was like I had seen something that confirmed everything that I had known about being in the woods from the time that I started in Boy Scouts to the time that I got out of Boy Scouts. I something felt confirmed in my head about what I had seen. Absolutely. Sometimes when you have well some listeners will get this.

10:25 When you have an experience with a parent, they're either and you see something like this, whether it be a UFO or a big foot, yeah, They're either going to be like, Nope, didn't say a thing, see a thing, or yeah, totally saw it. Did you have conversations with your father after this sighting? In the years after. We did, we would reference that day a little bit, and it was just that. How I explain it is there are certain activities that you do with friends and family and coworkers where you can sit back and laugh and say, yeah, we did that, Yeah we saw that.

11:16 That's how it was for us where we wouldn't have to you wouldn't have to say words half the time. All we had to do is just exchange looks and know that yes, we saw what we saw and we're just going to leave it at that. That's really cool after having this sighting. Sometimes when people will have a bigfoot sighting, it'll affect them in different ways. Sometimes they won't want to have anything to do with bigfoot related things, or they'll really jump into it. Do you feel like it affected you in a certain way after this. Oh, I, as some people would say, I jumped headfirst into learning anything and everything I could about bigfoot every time me and my friends would go up because eventually, after all, after having this sighting and then hanging out with friends the next weekend, we realized that we had all seen the same creature in the same area. So when we were around fifteen sixteen years old, one of us was able to get a driver's license and we went out to that area with a loudspeaker and we would play the Sierra sounds just to see if we could get a response, and we got responses.

12:35 Before we get into those responses, what kind of sightings had your buddies had before leading this time? The typical the hunter instances where they see him through a scope, peeking out from behind a tree, instances where because two of my buddies they hunt with their rightfle hunters and then two others are bow The two rifle hunters had one peek out from trees in two different areas, but they claimed it. They claim it was the same one. I don't know. The other two bow hunters when they would go for when they would go claim their kills, they would find either their kills missing. They would go searching for their kills and they would find their kills missing, or they would have they would hear random tree knocks or whatever just to startle, just to startle them and try and get them out of that area. Just the small stuff, the small stuff that they do just to screwe with hunters because it's funny.

13:39 Oh absolutely so. Then so you guys go to this area and you're playing the Sierra sounds, how much of the Sierra sounds, or you're playing as much as is available or just a few minutes. We would play thro the from the time that they from the time that on the sounds where you hear the distant howls to the chattering is the clips that we would play and we would play it over loud speaker and the responses we would get back were varied. We had a couple long, drawn out whoops, what sounded to be like coyotes, but was that creature because no coyote had hit that pitch at that range, A couple low, a couple of low aggressive howls. And then I'd say at least four to five wood knocks within a close range of within a close range of us.

14:42 And when you say close range, can you be specific as to how close that was? Ten yards? Oh? Wow? Okay, m oh yeah. How how quick did it take for things to kick in after you stop playing the recording by Ron Moorehead. I would say ten seconds at best. Wow, Yeah, it was about the first The first time that we did it, it was about ten seconds, just because we were using a very powerful amplified speaker, so it was about ten seconds from the time that the sound ended to the time that we started hearing sounds coming back to us.

15:30 The second instance, when we did the sounds again the next weekend is when we started encountering the wood knocks and we would just we eventually ended up making it a weekend thing where we would go out to Boyken and just circle up, make a campfire, and just sit there and just talk and every once in a while just you know, let off a couple of wood knocks with a wooden baseball batty us a tree and then go sit back down and see it. We see what we can hear, because as teenagers we actually liked interact. The interaction that we were getting was not threatening more as it was just basic curiosity. And that's what we got was the curiosity part of the creature in which that really kicked off the curiosity for us as well as how close can how close can we get this creature to us without it being scared of us and without us frightening off everything else.

16:33 It's an interesting combination that you hit on there, The curiosity of the creatures combined with the curiosity of you and your friends at that time at you know, that age in life is probably a wild combination. How many times do you think you went there and did this over the years. I'd say at least till till I graduate, till my eighth grade year is when we all was the last time that we were all together and the last time that we did that sort of campfire or hangouts deal.

17:19 And just so you think maybe less than ten times. More than ten times. Yeah, I would say more than ten times. Okay, And out of those times more than ten times. How many times did you guys get responses? Every single time? The experiences that your friends had prior to this when they were hunting, were these in a similar area as to where you and your father had the sighting, or different parts of Boyk and Springs. Different parts of the area. Actually, one of my buddies he used to hunt, and I don't know if he still does or not, but he used to hunt a big thicket National Forest in between Huntington and Zavala, Texas.

18:12 They had a piece of property out there and they would go hunt, and he had an instance in that national forest. Another one of my buddies, he had an instance in the seeing if I can find it on my computer, he had an instance with the creature outside of Crocket in the Davy Crockett National Forest, and he had that happen out there. Another one of my buddies had his happen in the right along the Trinity River close to I'd say close close to Antioch, Texas.

19:07 Gotcha. A lot of us have been all over the place and have had things happen. Yeah, and those are all areas where there's there's definitely been activity reported over the years. Now getting back to you know, you and your buddies having these times where you're trying to elicit interactions or have interactions happen. Was there ever a time you feel where they started coming closer to your camp or there might have been a visual that was had. The only time that we had one get close to us was when we when we were going fishing. We've we went out because we go out at about eleven o'clock in the morning and we'd get there, break out the fish and poles, start fishing, and then we clean up our fish, get them all cut up, filayed, and ready to cook. And there was one night that we did this. It was a Saturday night, overcasted, and one of one of my buddies had taken the guts from all the fish to the to the trash can at the end of my camp site, put them in the trash can, left it alone, and then came back to camp and we started we fried up the fish, we were eating. We were talking doing our normal Saturday night thing of trying to get Bigfoot to come close to us.

20:35 And sitting there, and then we heard the trash can leg get ripped open, and then it sounded like a raccoon going through the garbage. But we knew what it was without a doubt. Hearing tails from all the fishmen that were there prior to us being in the Bigfoot, we knew what it was right right away. You've also had had another instance happened by a sawmill? Was that right? Yeah? The Aldridge Sawmill is the sawmill that I had a encounter at well along a hiking trail towards the saw mill that I hadn't encounter at.

21:20 Yes, gotcha. And for listeners, if you go to the website for the podcast big for Society podcast dot com, there's a sightings map there where I'm putting trying to put locations where or put encounters where the locations happen, so you can fall along if you go over there and click on siting map. But looks like the Aldridge Sawmill is a little bit south of Boykin Springs right, Yes. Still on the same property. That entire area is the Boykin Springs Recreation Area. The main area that comes up anybody listening that is interested in this area, The main spot that's going to come up is the main campground, and i'd say the sawmill's about three four miles south of the main camp area.

22:16 Thank you, And would you be able to walk us through. What happened during that sighting at the sawmill that day? Yeah? Yeah, So it was about eleven thirty in the afternoon. I was with I was on a scouting camp out. Actually, one of our leaders wanted us to go through and hike to the sawmill just to get a couple of pictures. See it, enjoy it, see the area. So we're hiking through and we're on a we're on a bottom hat. We're on the bottom part of a rail line spur. So the spur is up top by about ten twenty feet and we're down low by about an extra five and we're walking along and everything's going good. Common thing for us scouters is if we're ever hiking and we have to stop somewhere, always have a buddy with us.

23:13 So I had to stop to take a leap because nature called, and I tapped my buddy and I said, hey, I gotta stop. Told the scout master we'll catch up. We'll catch up to the group, y'all. Keep going. So about this time everything is the woods are they're normal at this point, birds are chirping, the wind's rustling, everything else like that. And then it all goes quiet for a second. And my buddy, who's he's at my back looking up the hill and he taps me on my shoulder as I finish up my business, and he goes, hey, what's that up there? And I turn around and I look, and I say, walking more like shuffling across the top of this rail line spur. Is this seven and a half eight foot tall what I've already seen before known as what I know is sasquatch standing there well, shuffling across there, looking down at us. And my buddy was starting to freak out because he didn't know what it was.

24:29 And I told him, hey, calm down. As long as you don't mess with it, it's not going to mess with you. And we started walking, and as soon as we started walking towards our group, I could hear the creature about ten to twenty feet behind us, tracing us from a distance but keeping a watchful eye on us. Till from the time that we were alone to the time that we made it back to our group, that creature followed us there, and I couldn't tell you if it was a natural instinct or a protective instinct that it had to follow us to make sure that we got back to our group safe and sound.

25:15 How did you feel after having this encounter? Was it different than the first one that you had? I'd say about the same. It actually solidified what I knew and what I thought I knew even more. Gotcha. And another thing I wanted to ask you is after having these these sightings and now your few years past, that have you continued to go back out to that area to try to have interactions even though you know your buddies might not be involved. Or are you still doing any research in the area about encounters that happen.

26:03 Oh? Yeah, without a doubt. This has not swayed me from my distance from the area, has not swayed me from stopping what I have come to enjoy as a pastime. Quite frankly, it's ramped up what I enjoy a lot, because now I have something to do on my pastime that that what I'm not working is actually more uplifting and can get me out of all the heavy stuff that I do with that work. So it's it's one of those things that I see as a It's one of those things I see that for the area is needed to be put out there as Hey, if you have this encounter, don't be afraid of it. Just this is what you need to do. I'm trying to get out there so I can have more encounters and can tell more people about Hey, these are just general giant creatures.

27:00 Don't mess with them. They won't mess with you. This, that, and the third. Have you been able to have any discussions with people that have also had things happen in this area. I've had a couple of conversations with a couple of people. Some of their settings are a little bit more, a little bit more rough than others. The typical coming up to the vehicle, shaking it, tossing stuff around the campsite, scream and holler and yelling, slapping trees and all that stuff. I've had a lot of interviews with people that have been I've been scared out of the woods before. I've had a lot of people say that I'm not going back into the woods after such and such instance, because this, this, and this happened. And I after hearing most of those stories of being of people being run out of the woods.

27:55 I am of the opinion that I've been fairly lucky in not getting chased out of the woods by these creatures. So I don't know what that says about me and them, but I guess we're on a good rapport. Yeah, that's really interesting. Have you found any patterns about, like, okay, the people that reported being you know, just just chased out of there or scared out of there? Did you see any patterns between those sort of witnesses or was it kind of just random? Who would get that and who wouldn't? It was that random, I'd say, because I would go to the I would talk with most of my people at church. I'd say one in ten that I would talk to have been chased out of the Boyken area and have not returned since.

28:46 So okay, well done. That's a really wild statement to say. And I just because you don't hear stuff like that, and that's incredible, I'd say, that's incredible to hear. How roughly big is a congregation. Our congregation is about six hundred members. I've asked the questions, well, what have y'all been doing? And they're like, oh, well we've been we've been throwing trash everywhere. I'm like, yeah, that's not what you're supposed to do. Okay, so that's that's a pattern right there. So mm hmm, it could be it could be individuals that are messing up the area, not being respectful. That could definitely be a pattern. And are these individuals where you're talking to people where they're younger, some are older.

29:37 It's all over the place, all over the place. Okay. I've had a couple I've had a couple dads come up and tell me that they've been chased out for leaving deer corn bags on the ground for and then a couple of kids come up and say, well, we just we ran out of there because this, that and the third. I'm like, don't be scared of them guys. And to the others that leave the trash on the ground, I'm like, look, don't. The biggest part of what I used to do as a child in boy scouting was one of the biggest things that I was taught was leave no trace, Leave no trace that you were there, so no one knows that you were there. Pick up after yourself.

30:23 It's not hard, absolutely so, and that would you know, if you look at it a certain way, I'm sure that affects the intention that you have when you're in these areas. You know, just just to kind of, you know, the vibes that you're giving off are probably way different than you know, most per person that might be there have a drink, toss the cans, whatever. But it sounds like, from what I'm hearing, the worst that happens in this area is people are going to get freaked out and they could get chased out of there. But you know, there's nothing where people are getting hurt. It sounds like that you've heard. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, not even kind of never have I've never interviewed anybody that has gotten hurt from being chased out of boycned by a Bigfoot.

31:17 I haven't heard any stories about that. Granted, this isn't you know, north this isn't the Pacific Northwest, this isn't close to Canada. This is you know, south southeast east Texas. Like, what's no one's going to get hurt being chased out of the woods by bigfoot. If anything, there's going to be the likely event of someone getting hurt is one of two things has happened. Either a they got so scared they purposely fell and broke something, or they weren't paying attention and broke something against a tree. That's it.

32:01 These people that you're talking to that were scared off that ran off, were they also ones that had visual sightings at the same time, or it's just they heard something something maybe was bluff charging. Them, something was bluff charging. Okay, gotcha, gotcha. Most of the people that I've had that I've talked to have said that the ones that have had and have had visual encounters have said that they felt a certain wave of peace come over, like it's not here to hurt me. It knows I'm not here to hurt it. And it's one of those mutual type of deals where both parties know that one is not going to be hurt by the other and then they usually hang out for about five ten seconds and then they're off into the woods doing their own thing again.

32:55 So that's really interesting too. So what I hear most of the people that have had visual encounters that you've talked to, they have a peaceful feeling about it. But the people that are not seeing it and are just being bluff charged they're freaking out, So that's kind of an interesting thing as well. Have there been any any tracks that have ever been found in the area? I can ask around, Okay and see, I haven't personally seen any tracks around. That doesn't mean that they're not there. I just haven't encountered. I haven't talked with anybody yet that has had any footprints cast that who have made casts with footprints. But I do know majority of campers that have been in that area have whether they've been camping in the main campground or have been camp hiking doing hiking trail camps, that they've all heard wood knocks.

34:03 They've heard wood knocks, screens hows, all the mannerisms of what bigfoot would do. It's extremely interesting the things you're hearing from people at the church. How far back in history? Do those stories go. Far back as the late sixties early seventies? Okay? Wow? And yeah, Do you think you're the main person in this area or that's getting encounters about this area or have you ran into other researchers or people that are documenting things as well?

34:47 As far as I know, I'm the only person within my church group that is talking to people about this, it's just I guess it's just the luck of the draw. I know, my church group we have very we're a very big outdoor community. We have a lot of hunters, we have a lot of boat we have a lot of hunters, a lot of fishermen, a lot of campers, hikers. And I'd say about almost every single person that I've talked to within my congregation has either seen one or has heard one in the Boyk and Springs area.

35:28 That's it's really cool. And yeah, I'm going to say a statement and there's going to be a lot of people that are probably well whatever, But so I mean, these are people that are going to church. Usually people that are going to church are not going to be inclined to lie, right, They're they're gonna exactly they're going to hopefully not be doing that with you know, if we're talking about like a you know, some sort of Christian church, usually buying equals a bad thing. And just to hear that, there's so many people talking to you, and these are people that have, you know, nothing to gain. You're not writing a book from what I know, You're not you know, with a podcast or a TV show or anything. They're just like, yeah, I saw something too, or had something weird happened too. So it's very very cool that you are having these conversations. Are you writing them down or keeping a journal or anything like that.

36:29 I'm trying to, but more times than not, most of these individuals are just asking that their information be left out. That yes, I can write down their sighting, but they would like to remain anonymous so they're not construed by the community, by the surrounding community of those that don't believe in it, and respecting their wishes and keeping them anonymous in the journal entries. But oh yeah. Another cool thing you could do is you could also start plotting out on a map if you wanted to, where stuff has happened, and you would probably start to see patterns arise in Boycotting Yeah about okay, this area around this time of year. Probably shouldn't go in there because something might be going on. You're going to get chased out, who knows.

37:25 Oh yeah, So that those were the instances that I had in Boykin Springs. I was talking with a of course, I told you over TikTok high stream. I was talking with a buddy of mine who's a law enforcement officer, sure, and he had he had a run. He had a run in on dash can with a in a place not too far from Boykened Springs off of County Roads or Highway ninety six that follows right close to the sam Rayburn now sam Rayburn Lake.

38:08 Gotcha looks like on that side of it, yeah. Mm hmm. He said that he was coming southbound on ninety six and had one step out across the road. Wow, trying to find the location right now. If I remember our conversation, he was trying to get access to that footage, right. M h he's they're still working on it. Someone in his office has given him some pushback right now. That's terribly wich. It doesn't surprise me at all. It doesn't surprise me. It's like, what's what's the problem. Just give out the video.

38:50 If there's nothing on the video, it's not a big deal, right. Just give it out. Public access. It's public access to public access. Yeah, make a foia, you know, like it's yeah, that's that's terrible, dude. So it was. He said. His instance happened right outside Pineland, Okay, on County Road ninety six before the turn off before it curves off towards the the trailhead number three west, the trail between the lakes. Oh yeah, which is when you're on ninety six. It looks like in that area you are in, Oh yeah, Sabine National Is it that in Subin National Forest?

39:33 I think it's the Bean or it's Angelina National Forest. I could not tell you off the top of my head. Wow, but yeah, our area, that area is very poppin' because of course there's we're not that far from Taleda Bend and that area of Louisiana. God, it's pretty wild as well. I mean, I've heard stuff about this area for four years. It just wasn't smart enough to put it all on a map, which is what I'm doing now and start to see patterns.

40:14 And if anyone's listening that does this too, you need to document it on a map stuff you hear so that you can see patterns and all that. Unless your memory is incredible, which mine, I need to see it plotted out. Wow, this is this is absolutely incredible. Oh yeah, my goodness, Ran you are. I mean, you're in the right place at the right time, and you're you're taking the time to actually talk to people, and it's really really cool. I wish more people across the US were doing what you are. It would probably get us to disclosure quicker. Oh yeah, but man, I want to make sure that you were able to share everything that you had come on the show to share about what you're what you've experience down there, and what you're hearing.

41:02 Oh yeah, I've been able to give my peace of everything. I just have one additional story to tell. This is from This is coming from a corrections officer out of that I know personally outside of Huntsville. He works for TDC. He works for the TDC Texas Department of Criminal Justice, and he's part of one of the units down there, and he had a he had one walk out across walk out across him on Highway nineteen headed towards Trinity. Oh wow, just just in the middle of the day.

41:47 No, sir. He he was doing an evening transport and he was coming from he was coming from Trinity into Huntsville after picking up his in the train party from Jarney County. And he said, I was coming down the road, He's like, I saw something in the road, so I slowed came to a slow pace. He's like, damn, you're a stop and then as soon as I slowed down, that's when this creature went from a crouching position to a standing position and cleared cleared the road in one and a half steps. Wow.

42:29 Yeah, man. This is one of those discussions where it's it's crazy because it's not the Pacific Northwest, but it's like there's so much activity in this one area when you. Look at the big view and. It's just you're gonna, you're gonna, you're gonna keep hearing some cool stuff down there. And I'm glad that you're keeping track of it. And if people that are listening to this have also had stuff happen in you Can Springs or the area, I'd love to hear about it. You can. You can reach out It's big for society at gmail dot com. Also, are there ways that people can reach out to you, Ryan or we're kind of keeping in the shadows and dealing with people locally for this.

43:18 If anyone in the local area has any information on any sightings that you may have had or anything else, and y'all don't feel comfort reaching out to Jeremiah, you can reach out to me. I can give you a email to send that. Okayation over to sure gotcha, got you? Got you? So that email is going to be lone text and six eight at gmail dot com. That is one of my that's one of the emails that I take reports on, get stories and yeah, hopefully here soon I'll start plotting all this stuff and then I'll get with Jeremia again we can compare notes.

44:03 I would love that this is one of those deals where you know, I'm starting to have people on different parts of the country that are there in person and pretty much boots on the ground. So yeah, we'll definitely keep in touch. Ryan. But thank you so much for coming on the show today. I appreciate it. Man, Yeah, no problem, thanks for having me on. Thank you for listening to this episode of The Big Society Podcast. Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth is often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to subscribe to the channel on YouTube hit the bell so you don't miss the next episode, and share this with a friend who's into mysteries, monsters, or the unexplained. And if you're listening to us on Spotify or Apple podcast. Please follow the show there and leave us a five star positive review because all that helps more people discover the show.

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