Sept. 1, 2024

Face to Face with Bigfoot | Subarctic Alaska Sasquatch (Archive Episode)

Originally released on 9/26/23Fred Roehl is a First Nation's Alaskan native and Curyung Tribal Counsel member from Dillingham, Alaska.

In this episode, Fred shares what he has experienced in the wilds of Alaska and some of what has been shared with...

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Originally released on 9/26/23Fred Roehl is a First Nation's Alaskan native and Curyung Tribal Counsel member from Dillingham, Alaska.

In this episode, Fred shares what he has experienced in the wilds of Alaska and some of what has been shared with him along the way.

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Forward slash the Big for Society and now let's get

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on with the show Big for Society've got the privilege

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of talking to mister Fred Roll tonight. If Fred, this

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is a going to be a fun interview. I've never

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had an individual be requested so many times for me

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to get them on the podcast, literally probably three to

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four times a day. In the comments, I get someone saying,

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you need to have Fred from Alaska. You need to

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have Fred from Subarctic Alaska Sasquatch channel come on and

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talk about Alaska hairy Man. So I'm just so happy

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to finally get you on, Fred. How are you doing tonight?

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Oh, I'm doing great. Thanks for having me.

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Oh, fantastic. And just to give there may be some

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listeners that don't know about you yet, but if you're

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not following and subscribe to Subarctic Alaska Sasquatch channel on YouTube,

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you really need to make sure that you do right

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after this. It's pretty cool because you're reporting, You're recording

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Alaskan hairy man encounters, your first Nations Alaska native, and

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your tribal council member from Dillingham, Alaska, which is just

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awesome that you have that connection. You can really be

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connected to the stories that you are record and reporting,

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So it's just it's awesome. Fred, And remind me that

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the area that you are based out of is it Dillingham?

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Then, I'm from there. I'm from Bristol Bay. I currently

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live in Wasstolla, Alaska. There's no job opportunities in Bristol

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Bay unless it's seasonal because a lot of the good

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jobs there, whether it be hospital or otherwise, are already taken.

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So it's just not a very financially viable place to

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live year round.

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Gotcha. Yeah, And from what I've gathered from other interviews

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it can be a pretty hostile environment to live in Alaska.

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But it is a beautiful environment. But it's also a

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very it can be a very unforgiving. You don't get

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too many chances up there.

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Yeah, Like I tell people all the time, Alaska don't

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care it really, so it's irrelevant what you're prepared for.

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You never know what you're going to get up here.

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It's always different, absolutely, you know. I'd be curious, Fred,

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what was it that first brought you into being so

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interested and involved with recording and reporting these encounters. Do

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you remember a time in your life when you were

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first introduced to this concept of the Alaskan hairy man?

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Oh, jeez, I was a little kid my auntie. When

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we were young, we always had fish camp, hunting camp,

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and so on in the village. And when we were

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really young, we were too young to participate in pulling

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and hauling nets and picking fish. So one of our

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aunties would watch us during those months. And you know,

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like especially my aunt Lucy, she was one of the

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most boys and outspoken people when it came to watching

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out for the hairyman. Because it wasn't just mythological folklore.

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It was a fact of life, just no different than

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beware of a moose at the end of the driveway.

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It may stop you to death type of thing. So

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she would always warn us about, you know, don't follow

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strange whistles into the woods, don't go into the woods alone,

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don't turn your back on the woods, don't be out

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after dark. The hairy man will get you, you know.

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And as a kid, hearing these things, you know over

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and over, you know, being a little kid, I thought

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I was savvy, and I thought they were just trying

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to keep us from having fun. And so in nineteen

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eighty three, I remember it clearly. I snuck away from

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the group that was in the front yard of my

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grandma's house. Her property was right at the end of

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the runway next to the Dillingham Airport at the time,

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by squad Creek side, and I snuck away from the

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group because I wanted to work on my tree fort.

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And so I'm approximately about one hundred and twenty yards

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away from my grandma's house on this little trail, and

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it was open, but about seventy yards in front of

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me there was a big bunch of willows and they

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were about ten twelve foot tall roughly, and I had

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my path I had to take through those willows to

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get to where I was building my tree for it,

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and I was about seventy yards from it, and I

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was staring at my feet at the time. I remember

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at Claire's Day, and something just told me look up.

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in the willows. And I immediately my uncle Leo was

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like six to two, so I thought it was him

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that person. I thought, oh crap, I'm gonna be in trouble.

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And it wasn't my Uncle Leo. This thing screened at

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me the most blood curdling, just scary thing I'd dealt

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with at that time, and I turned around and ran back.

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Of course, I got in trouble for it and whatnot.

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we went up the Michigank River on a thirty two

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foot ross and fishing boat, and we used that as

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our base camp for moose hunting at the end of

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fishing season. Because my family was deeply involved in commercial

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salmon fishing, and so we would use that big boat

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as our base camp. We would anchor out in the

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river and use a small skift to go and get

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our moose and whatnot. And we had this a frame

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built in the back of it on the stern side

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to where we had a tarp over it and we

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could hang our moose meat and it wouldn't get rained

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on and it could hang and all that kind of stuff. Right,

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So we were on our way back from hunting camp basically,

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and there was a handful of us younger cousins, a

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few older cousins that were in their mid to late teens,

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and two of my uncles and my dad, and we

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got stuck on a gravel bar just that black bluff

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by Angel Bay, which is the tidal area of the

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Nuhi get going in the Nusigak Bay from the river,

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and it's right where the fresh water meets the ocean water.

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And we were stuck. There was no way we're getting

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up until the tide came in. And so one of

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my older cousins. After a little while, the adults were

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stressing that they you know, they didn't want the boat

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to tip over and then potentially you know, take on

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water when the tide comes in. So they were working

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things out, you know, how to stabilize the boat and

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all this so it didn't tip or whatever. But one

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of my older cousins was like, let me get the

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younger kids out of your hair. I'll take them sport fishing,

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you know, with rod and reel in the skiff and

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you know, get them out of your hair basically. So

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we all got our fishing poles into the skiff and

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we're backing away from the boat and there was a

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lot of commotion because you got the outboard running, you

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got the adults on the boat still talking, and as kids,

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we were just concerned about fishing, you know, we're all

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excited or whatever, and there was this screaming going on,

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but we weren't putting two and two together. And then

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we were hearing the splashing going on, and my dad

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and my uncles were sitting there screaming, waving us back.

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We came back to the stern of the boat and

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immediately they were taking us kids off as quickly as possible.

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And when we all got on deck and we were

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going into the basically the cabin of the boat where

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the you know, the wheelhouse is, the screaming was really

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really loud. And we'd noticed because one of our other

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Cousins was putting up to the Black Bluff, which was

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about seventy yards away and about sixty five feet above

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us roughly, and there was this so let up there,

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a harry man and he was screaming and started throwing rocks,

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and you know, everyone they were concerned, of course, because

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it's throwing rocks, but none of the rocks were hitting

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the boat yet, and then one hit broke through the

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tarp and hit a piece of moose pine quarter that

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was hanging there so hard it snapped off with its

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line and fell to the deck, and immediately they rushed

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us downstairs, and you know, there's a bunch of gun

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fire going on, and we'd hear screaming, rocks thrown, and

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you know, another vally oft fired. That was basically where

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the reality of what we were doing with really sunk

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in as far as the dangers, because seeing something at

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a distance versus seeing its aggression are you know, the

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potential of that aggression, you know, play out in front

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of you, is really really eye opening. But we ended up,

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you know, sequestered down even lower in the sleeping quarters,

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which wasn't very big, and I couldn't tell you how

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long the screaming, and the gunshots went on. But it

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went on for a while because they would shoot it,

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it would fall down. They would get right back up

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and throw more rocks from what I heard later, and

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eventually we fell as they down, you know, down underneath there.

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And when we woke back up, we were at the

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you know, don't have boat harbor. And you know, my

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uncles and my dad were taught my mom and aunties,

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you know, everything that happened and whatnot. But that that

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was some of the most intense portions of my childhood.

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There was other sightings, you know, very picking and whatnot,

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and something a lot of people don't realize. I was

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talking to someone from the village earlier. Today, our heritage

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is so steeped in these supposed and mythological folk flord

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whatever you want to call it, but it's day to

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day life and for a lot of villagers even to

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this day, and it's it's hard to convey that sometimes

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because a lot of people they're raised, you know, boy scouts,

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and you know, they get out to national parks to

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get their fill of getting into the woods and whatnot,

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and up here you step outside, you know, we don't

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have any park boundaries that animals abide. Bye, I get moose,

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bare fox all that they come through my yard, you

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know what I mean. So it's a different dynamic up here.

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It's totally different. And when it comes to like things

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like the hairy man, little people, you know, acousta ka

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whatever you want to call the otter man, there's moose

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man that. There's a bunch of different stories if you

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want to call it that, but they're all based in reality.

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And I think a lot of people just chalk that

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up to, oh, that's just mythological talk. That's just you know,

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keep kids in lind and this and that. And it's

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not the case because I know many villagers that could

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go on for days about hairyman experiences they've had, or

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their relative have had, or you know, so on and

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so forth. So it's it's really it's basically day to

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day life for a lot of people in the village.

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That story you just told me, it sounded like, so

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did they actually hit the hairy man? Would there with

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their shots? Do you think?

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Oh? Yeah, one percent? According to what I was told later,

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it just kept getting back up and throwing more rocks.

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We come from a long line of subsistence hunters. We

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when we're when we're shooting, it's not braggadosia. We shoot

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to kill and make it quick. It's you know, we're

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not out there to take twenty shots on an animal

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just to wound it. We're from the mindset of one shot,

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one kill. My dad's a Vietnam Vet. My uncles were

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non Vets. They they're well versed when it comes to shooting.

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And the distance that thing was wasn't all that far.

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Wow, the stories that you've heard over the year, has

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anyone actually been able to successfully shoot one so that

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it will be you know, they've got a specimen or

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or is it a thing where you'll try to shoot

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it and every time it just keeps getting back up.

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Well, no, I've I shared a story that Clinkett Elder

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shared with me. His name was Thomas. He's since passed,

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but he happened to have dispatch we'll call it, three

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of them over the course of a decade one one time.

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for a logging job and what have you. The second

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time was up the Copper River Valley, and the third

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time was between Selwick and Calstak where they where he

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dispatched one, and what he related to me. And this

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was just about a year ago that he had shared

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this with me, a little over a year. It was

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a head shot through the year or in the eye.

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That was the only way to get them to stay

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down and basically die. The first one they buried, the

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second one they burned, and the third one he claimed

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that he had cut it up and disposed of its

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body parts, some of it in the cave and its

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torso back at the end of the valley. So there's that. Now,

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this gentleman was in his nineties. He had nothing to gain,

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you know, by sharing that. He was mainly just trying

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to educate me because I told him my experience and

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how my shots were ineffective. And that's when he stopped

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me and was like, you got to shoot him in

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the soft tissue that eyes geared, you know, something like

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that in order to get them to basically stop.

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from our sponsors. That is extreme. Wow, that's extremely detailed

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in ways I've never heard before on that show. And

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you said Clinkett Elder, and that reminds me I've talked

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to a gentleman before it was that close to Prince

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of Wales.

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Island, not horribly far from it.

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I think that the Clinkett elders were involved with that

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area too, from what I remember. But the southeast Alaska

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area is very intense with I believe there's they say

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there's tribes of four toad sasquatch that are seen down there.

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Is that anything that you've run into before in any

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stories that you've gathered, Yeah.

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I've heard house. Yeah, I've heard of those accounts. I

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talked to natives from all across the state, and you know,

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you get you get accounts of three toes, four toes,

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five and even six toes. But typically when you hear

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of the six toe prints, they're like twenty four inches

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long and a good foot wide. So to me, that's

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more along the lines of what we call a mountain giant.

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And there's accounts of those as well. Uh. And you

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still hear accounts from up near Ruby, up on the

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Yukon where villagers will hear the trumpeting of like elephants

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and they claim to have seen mammoth in recent history,

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within the last decade. That is something I would love

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to explore. Her to see a wooly mammoth live and

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in person, just out in the middle of nowhere, that

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would be an experience.

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That's incredible. So you've act, you've talked to people that

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have personally encountered like the sounds of Willie mammos.

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You're saying, Oh yeah, villagers from Ruby and Galina.

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Right on the Yukon River within fifteen miles of the river,

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is what I was told.

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Man, that's wild. I mean, you never know the stories

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you hear out of the Yukon, and I've heard other

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things as well, and just that area is so remote,

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so wild. Man, it's crazy. And you'd mentioned mountain giants

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as well. Man, that's a new one. I hadn't heard

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of either.

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Right, there was a guy he was spotting for most

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are Carabu. I forget what it was, but he said

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he had you know, he had one of those big

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old I forget the power on it, but it was

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one of those huge spotting scopes where you can easily

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see it, Miley, you know what I mean. And he

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was spotting and he noticed this big grayish green thing

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moving and it looked like it was trees on its back,

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and he said it was about thirty foot tall, and

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it had like a maine going down its back. It

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was grayish green, had hair down its forearms and kind

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of cuffed around its wrist and was a little longer

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around the wrist the hair was. He said, the back

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kind of reminded him of a snapping turtle, you know,

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with the splines on the back or whatever.

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Sure, and he said.

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It kind of looked like that, but it was more

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like a bristly type of hair down the back. It

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had tusks from the lower jaw protruding up next to

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the nostrils. And he said it just moved nonchalant. And

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he was just an all watching this thing from roughly

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a mile away, and he heard a bush plane in

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the distance and he looked just finding out where the

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plane was, and he spotted the plane. Then he looks

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back and this thing. As he looked back, he saw

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it just the tail into this thing, crunching down to

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the ground and it blended in perfectly with the scenery.

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So when this thing was moving, it heard the plane

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as well, and just kind of laid low, stayed still

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and you wouldn't even see it.

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That's incredible, man. I wonder if anyone has ever captured

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actual like video evidence or anything of creatures like that

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is that's a new subject for me.

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Man. Well, I've personally seen footage of little people. I've

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personally seen way better footage in four K resolution of

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a sasquatch. There's a homestead down on the peninsula and

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these people contacted me about a year ago. They had

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started getting ghats because you know, they want it goes

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to keep the land and clear, you know, the undergrowth

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kind of you know, to a minimum. And they had

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a couple of small pins and they had just basically

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started their homestead on about five to six acres roughly,

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and one of their goats came up missing one day,

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and so the husband went out kind of looked around,

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saw some where tracks, thought it was a double bear

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in freshion, you know, and so, okay, it's a bear.

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So he kind of went outside of the property scouting around.

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Couldn't really find anything, no blood trail, no sign of

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this missing goat. Comes back that evening he saw a

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dark shadow in the trees and just fired around up

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into the trees to scare whatever this large looming thing was.

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He assumed it was a bear. On his hind feet well,

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the thing disappeared, no harm, no foul kind of thought process.

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And the next morning, when they were drinking coffee at

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their table, they heard a loud, just this monstrous scream

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that entered in the high pitch, and this thing it

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took their second goat, ripped it in half, and threw

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both halves at the cabin, one after another. And that

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got their attention because they heard the scream, they saw

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what was left of the goat smacked up against their cabin,

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and so once it got a little lighter outside, he

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went out to investigate. Nothing was going on. It was

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dead quiet. He got rid of the remains of the

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goat and kind of looked for a more sign of

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what this was. They had called the authorities at that point.

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The authorities told them, a bears are around, you know,

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keep your goats close, put up electrical fence, you know,

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just basically shine them on. Wasn't listening to the screen

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part of it. They just just blowed off. And later

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on that day he was out in their front yard

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with his daughter. And this is rustic. It was freshly cleared,

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so it's not like they had a manicured lawn or anything,

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but they did have a fence up. It was about

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forty feet from their front window where the fence started,

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and that was basically their front lawn. And he was

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out there with his daughter and they heard a scream,

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and so he stood still, put his daughter behind him.

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And on video, the video portion I saw was the

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wife recording from inside from a little sony handicam, and

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this sasquatch walked between that fence and this guy who

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had his daughter behind him, and this thing was looking

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at him with such disdain and like hatred, like he

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wanted to end him, but for some reason he couldn't

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kind of look, and you can see clear around video

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this thing just walked on by, stepped over the fence

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and went off into the trees. I tried for months

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to get them to release that footage anonymously. I told

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him I'd leave their names out, i'd blair faces, i

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would do whatever I had to do to make them

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at ease to release this footage. And they wouldn't budge.

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And you know, I wasn't gonna put on a bunch

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of high pressure tactics. That was their footage, it was

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their thing. I just left it at that, but I

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still wish I could get my hands on that footage,

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because you know, the Patterson Gimlin footage is great, but

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this is on a different level of clarity. You could

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see the muscle moment clearly. You can count individual hairs

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on this thing, and its face was very defined, very clear.

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It was just amazing footage. And unfortunately, you know, they

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they want no part of it. They want not even anonymously.

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They did they want to share. They were just asking

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my advice on how to keep them away from their properties.

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And that's as far as they wanted to take it.

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Unfortunately, that is a shame. But you do have to respect,

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you know, as they are the owners of the footage.

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But it sounds like footage like that could could totally

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you know, to a lot of people, could prove the

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existence of the creature. I would imagine. I mean, it

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would probably make a few people change their mind.

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But well, yeah, and it's intense. I saw it with

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my own eyes in their cabin, in the same living

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room they filmed it from, and that I tried to

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you know, I was trying to be as you know,

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unintrusive as possible, but firm and trying to express to them. Look,

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a lot of people can gain from this, not financially,

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but just knowledge wise on the realities of what you're

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dealing with. You know, it could lead to more help

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because the best I could tell you is, you know,

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maybe put up some higher floodlights and you know, stay

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in at night. You know, that's that's the best advice

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I could give, you know, outside about right shooting the thing,

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and they wanted no part of that either. I offered

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to come in with a team of guys and take

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a look around. They wanted no part of that. You know,

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they were basically hoping that I had the silver bullets,

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so to speak, for their situation and you know, would

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make it all go away. But unfortunately I don't have that.

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You know, can you describe you know, when you looked

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at that video and you saw that footage, what did

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you see in the face of the creature?

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It looked more Neanderthal than eight, very similar to what

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I saw in six, just not quite as big. This

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thing was about ten foot tall. I would say the

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shoulders shoulder with just by simple just looking at the

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footage and the husband's height, I would say that shoulders

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were about four four and a half foot wide, arms

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hung down just you know, just above the knee. The

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forearm was longer than the upper arm. The hands were huge.

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The jaw was really big, wide and pronounced. You could

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tell that its teeth if it were showing them, would

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it protruded out further than the nose. Ash gray colored skin,

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pitch black guys, real wrinkly faced. You could tell under

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the hair with the movement. The muscle definition was like

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these bodybuilders you see that are just you can see

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every sinew in every fiber of muscle under their skin.

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It was very similar to that just coated in his hair.

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It was about four four and a half inches long

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for the most part, but the upper part of the

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head had a little bit of longer hair, so it

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would it wouldn't look like half Rocker style on the

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hair on the on the head, but then it you know,

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it all went down to a shorter leight. On the

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rest of its body. The genital was basically covered by hair.

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You couldn't eat. You could tell it was a big male,

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but it wasn't like it's junk was hanging or anything

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like that. It was just a lot of hair in

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that area. The upper part of the leg looked longer

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than the lower part and you could easily see in

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the footage when it was stepping, because I got the

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opportunity to watch it about four or five different times,

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you could see the foot almost looked like it was

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floppy because of that mid torstal break the way it

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was walking. Just an anthropologist would would kill their first

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born to have this footage to study. It was. It's great,

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And I told them if they weren't going to share it,

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I would. I would destroy it just what I told

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them because I would never you know, give away their

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name or their exact location. I just wouldn't betray them

453
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like that. But you know, I tried to reach out

454
00:27:58.640 --> 00:28:00.640
to them just a few months to go to see

455
00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:03.440
how they were doing, but I didn't get a response.

456
00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:07.559
You know, I think for a lot of people, once

457
00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:10.759
they get some kind of confirmation that they're not crazy,

458
00:28:12.079 --> 00:28:13.880
they want nothing more to do with it.

459
00:28:16.519 --> 00:28:19.119
I agree with you. That lines up with you know,

460
00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:21.880
people I've talked to is a lot of times they

461
00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:25.920
just want to share what they've experienced so they can

462
00:28:25.960 --> 00:28:28.640
go to sleep at night and feel like they're not crazy.

463
00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:32.160
I totally get it, right.

464
00:28:32.599 --> 00:28:34.920
I mean, on my channel right now, I have one

465
00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:39.319
hundred and seventy two videos. If I was able to

466
00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:44.480
share every encounter shared with me that, you know, if

467
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:47.480
they were open to it, even if they remained anonymous,

468
00:28:47.720 --> 00:28:50.599
I would have four or five hundred encounters on my channel.

469
00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:54.599
It's just a lot of people they want to talk

470
00:28:54.640 --> 00:28:57.240
to someone who is going to judge them and get

471
00:28:57.240 --> 00:28:59.119
it off their chest. And it seems like a lot

472
00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:02.279
of them once they get it off their chest, they

473
00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:04.839
can let it go, so to speak. They you know,

474
00:29:05.160 --> 00:29:09.559
for some people speaking it out loud. Because a lot

475
00:29:09.599 --> 00:29:11.640
of the people I interview, I talked to them three,

476
00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:14.559
four or five times just so I get their encounterdown.

477
00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:17.160
So when I relay it in a video, I can

478
00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:19.559
give the finer details. I could walk them, you know,

479
00:29:19.720 --> 00:29:22.720
the viewer through it to where they feel like they're

480
00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:26.599
in that place at that time. And you know, talking

481
00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:30.720
to the people it helps me. For one, it's kind

482
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:34.279
of like a form of therapy, but also it helps

483
00:29:34.319 --> 00:29:39.440
the listener to better understand, you know, terrain, time of day, circumstances,

484
00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:42.359
all that kind of thing. Versus if I was just like,

485
00:29:42.519 --> 00:29:45.920
let's say, reading an email verbatim, you know what I mean,

486
00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:48.960
Because those finer details and nuances you're not going to

487
00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:52.039
pick up in an email. You get that from talking

488
00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:54.240
to them, the inflection and their voice when they're talking

489
00:29:54.279 --> 00:29:57.680
about their encounter, whether there was a comical moment or

490
00:29:58.400 --> 00:30:03.319
you know, right deadly type of feeling that they felt.

491
00:30:04.599 --> 00:30:07.480
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492
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493
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You know, there was a federal investigator. His name is

494
00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:19.519
Robert Johnson. He shared his name willingly. His video is

495
00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:23.519
unknown Fear and Denaley, right. So when I talked to him,

496
00:30:24.079 --> 00:30:26.279
he said, you can use my name because I didn't

497
00:30:26.319 --> 00:30:30.039
see anything. He was at the White Loose Lodge in Healy, Alaska,

498
00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:33.680
just right there at d'naley. He was on a motorcycle

499
00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:36.319
trip of visiting his son or whatever. He ended up

500
00:30:36.319 --> 00:30:38.960
having to stay there because the heavy rains. But there

501
00:30:39.000 --> 00:30:42.400
was a banging on the back of that hotel that

502
00:30:42.640 --> 00:30:46.680
scared him. Now, this is an investigator anti terror, into

503
00:30:46.720 --> 00:30:50.039
the sandbox, as he put it, you know, counter terrorism,

504
00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:54.079
well trained, been through the trenches with you know, combat

505
00:30:54.119 --> 00:30:58.519
bet basically, and this thumping, this banging on the back

506
00:30:58.559 --> 00:31:02.440
of this hotel scared him to his core. He said

507
00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:05.440
he didn't understand it because he didn't see anything, but

508
00:31:05.680 --> 00:31:11.079
just the presence of this thing and feeling the power

509
00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:15.359
behind the banging on the wall. It scared them. Uh

510
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:19.279
And to me that speaks volumes. If if someone that's

511
00:31:19.319 --> 00:31:22.519
been through something like that can be scared to their

512
00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:26.920
core like a little child who's been through that, that

513
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:30.279
to me, it says a lot about the creature we're

514
00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:35.279
dealing with up here. It's not your forest friend. They're

515
00:31:35.319 --> 00:31:39.279
not here to help you with anything. A type of

516
00:31:39.559 --> 00:31:42.799
type of creature, you know. And that that's one of

517
00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:45.279
the driving forces on why I want to share lots

518
00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:47.960
of experiences is because what we deal with up here

519
00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:51.880
is far removed from some of the encounters you may

520
00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:54.960
hear about down in the States. You know, it's a

521
00:31:55.039 --> 00:32:00.279
totally different environment. I think they're more aggressive because the

522
00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:03.519
the seasons up here are so short. It's already in

523
00:32:03.559 --> 00:32:06.720
the fall, it's already been below freezing, you know, in

524
00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:12.119
the mornings already. Because of that short cycle we have

525
00:32:12.279 --> 00:32:16.000
up here, I think they're a lot more vicious because

526
00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:18.960
of the limited resources that can be attained in that

527
00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:21.359
short amount of time. So you get a lot of

528
00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:27.000
encounters from moose hunters, caribou hunters, salmon fisherman, berry pickers.

529
00:32:27.400 --> 00:32:31.440
You know, every resource people go out to attain up

530
00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:38.079
here is typically an encounterlocation, you know, our potential encounterlocation.

531
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:42.240
I get accounts all the time from the villages like

532
00:32:42.279 --> 00:32:47.759
the ones outside of Bethel, Russian Mission Mountain village. You know,

533
00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:52.240
places like this where out bury picking. These things have

534
00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:55.279
been known to try to lure women away, you know,

535
00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:59.920
with this slow motion wave. I've had a young wa

536
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:02.920
in her early twenties shared with me not too long ago,

537
00:33:03.079 --> 00:33:06.440
where they were just checking the conditions of the berries

538
00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:08.319
to see if they're almost right for kicking her and

539
00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:12.119
her little cousin. And they're in the wide open, white

540
00:33:12.119 --> 00:33:17.200
open times, are nothing around. They get to this it

541
00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:20.279
was basically a horseshoe shaped trail. They get to the

542
00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:23.079
aphex of it roughly, and all of a sudden, there's

543
00:33:23.079 --> 00:33:28.400
this hairy man about seventy ish feet away roughly, And

544
00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:32.799
initially she said she was almost in a trance like state,

545
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:35.960
like she's felt peaceful with this thing waving at her,

546
00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:38.440
and she's on a four wheeler with her little cousin.

547
00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:41.920
So she the trail they were on was well defined.

548
00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:45.000
You know, you got your trenches from the tread tires

549
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:47.799
of the many four wheelers that have been through there before,

550
00:33:48.359 --> 00:33:51.319
and she veered off and she bumped her knee getting

551
00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:53.759
off of that trail, and it snapped out of that

552
00:33:53.920 --> 00:33:56.680
trance and she saw it for what it was and

553
00:33:56.799 --> 00:33:59.519
realized the danger, and you know, get out all that

554
00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:03.400
out of there. So you get accounts like that, like

555
00:34:03.759 --> 00:34:06.680
what are we really dealing with? It's something that can

556
00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:09.920
put you in a transl like state, you know, especially

557
00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:14.599
the vulnerable women and children. It's real creepy, man, you know,

558
00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:18.039
And I got no answer for it. It's just creepy stuff.

559
00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:23.360
Have you ever heard of people being lured by the

560
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:27.559
sound of a baby crying in the woods?

561
00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:30.199
Oh yeah, yeah, I've heard the baby crying myself.

562
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:30.559
You have?

563
00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:39.320
Oh yeah. My cousin Elizabeth Osterhaus now Elizabeth book back

564
00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:42.480
in nineteen sixty seven or sixty nine, one of the two.

565
00:34:43.320 --> 00:34:46.280
She lived down on Unalaska Island. No trees. It's a

566
00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:49.440
wind swept Dutch harbors, you know, it's just wind swept.

567
00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:53.159
You may get some scrubbrush, but that's it. They had

568
00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:56.400
a neighbor, a young Native woman who had a child

569
00:34:56.480 --> 00:34:59.199
out of wedlock at the time with the fishermen. The

570
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:01.840
fisherman went away and she was left with this baby,

571
00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:05.199
and so she would always ask for help from her

572
00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:09.280
neighbors and whatnot. But this baby's cry, everyone knew it

573
00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:12.760
because it was a callicky, young baby and the mom

574
00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:14.960
didn't know what it was doing, you know, she was doing,

575
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:18.239
and so she would ask for help. And it was

576
00:35:18.280 --> 00:35:21.400
going in the dust, getting dark, and they heard this

577
00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:26.840
baby crying outside. They knew the cry and they recognized it. Well.

578
00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:29.599
They go outside her and another cousin to look to

579
00:35:29.639 --> 00:35:31.719
see what was going on with the baby crying, you know,

580
00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:35.280
making sure the baby didn't need help. And they get outside,

581
00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:38.800
they go around, they don't see anything, and they're going

582
00:35:38.840 --> 00:35:42.440
back into their little apartment and right in front of

583
00:35:42.480 --> 00:35:45.079
the bay window ten feet away looking at him as

584
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:50.119
this hairyman imitating that baby cry to a tea to

585
00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:54.960
perfection it. She said that it sounded identical to the

586
00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:58.719
baby cry. Now to me, that's a level of cunning

587
00:35:58.960 --> 00:36:03.480
that is just unreal, because they're literally using a woman's

588
00:36:03.559 --> 00:36:07.400
natural instinct against them. They're using that baby cry to

589
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:10.519
lure them out. That's, man, that is some cunning stuff. Man,

590
00:36:11.679 --> 00:36:19.280
Just just cunning, and go ahead, no, I just it

591
00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:23.239
just boggles my mind, you know, and that's why we're

592
00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:27.719
raised up here. Uh you know, there's nothing good that comes.

593
00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:31.519
We were never raised to follow them. We were never

594
00:36:31.639 --> 00:36:34.719
raised to track them. So when I got into this

595
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:37.760
YouTube thing and I started going to look around, it

596
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:40.119
was hard for me to get into it because culturally

597
00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:42.039
and the way I was raised. For some of the years,

598
00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:46.039
we didn't follow. We didn't we weren't out to you know,

599
00:36:46.119 --> 00:36:49.559
take photos of tracks because we saw them often enough.

600
00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:52.719
You know. We weren't out to capture video footage because

601
00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:55.920
we've seen them off and it wasn't it wasn't on

602
00:36:55.960 --> 00:36:58.480
our to do list. It wasn't a big deal. It

603
00:36:58.599 --> 00:37:01.519
was just what it was, you know. So it's been

604
00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:04.719
kind of a strange transition doing what I'm doing now.

605
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:10.760
It's just different because culturally the way I was raised.

606
00:37:11.119 --> 00:37:14.039
It's a night and day difference, because I still talk

607
00:37:14.119 --> 00:37:15.960
to elders that are like, you know, they'll tell me,

608
00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:18.119
you know, better than to go look for them. You know,

609
00:37:18.199 --> 00:37:21.599
nothing good will come of it, and you know, I

610
00:37:21.639 --> 00:37:25.360
hate their warnings, but yet I feel it's important. I

611
00:37:25.360 --> 00:37:28.079
feel it's a public safety issue. You know, people go

612
00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:31.280
out there. You know, I talked to hunters man that

613
00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:34.360
have been going to the same spot for forty plus years,

614
00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:38.119
never had an issue, never heard nothing crazy, never seen

615
00:37:38.199 --> 00:37:42.480
nothing crazy, but one twenty minute experience, and they will

616
00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:45.800
never go back there again. They've given up hunting, they

617
00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:49.360
won't even go out in the woods because it's just

618
00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:53.519
one random encounter and that's all it takes. And that's

619
00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:56.960
another thing that bobbles my mind is the randomness. You

620
00:37:56.960 --> 00:37:59.079
can have a group of one hundred guys go to

621
00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:02.039
the same spot every year for their cariboo, none of

622
00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:05.000
them have an issue. Then one year, one of them

623
00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:08.119
will have an issue, the cariboo gets taken, they have

624
00:38:08.199 --> 00:38:10.880
a siding or whatever, and it's done for them. They

625
00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:14.480
no longer go home. You know, it's just so random

626
00:38:14.480 --> 00:38:15.039
in nature.

627
00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:20.000
It's Yeah, I want to address something really quick. If

628
00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:24.079
listeners heard me have like an interesting reaction a little

629
00:38:24.119 --> 00:38:29.599
bit ago, I just was having such just that the

630
00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:33.199
picture I had in my mind of that the hairy

631
00:38:33.280 --> 00:38:36.719
man imitating the baby cry and the persons seeing that

632
00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:39.920
actually happen. That's just that's something that man, even if

633
00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:43.320
you're imagining it that I can't imagine actually seeing that

634
00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:47.639
in person. That's not a good thing to see.

635
00:38:49.719 --> 00:38:53.000
No, not at all. She's in her late eighties now,

636
00:38:53.119 --> 00:38:56.840
and she still she still gets an expression on her

637
00:38:56.840 --> 00:39:00.280
face of almost like shell shock about it, you know,

638
00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:03.440
and that happened back in sixty nine, you know what

639
00:39:03.519 --> 00:39:08.760
I mean? Like these? Okay? With my channel, I share

640
00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:13.480
people's encounters, and the way I do it is the

641
00:39:13.519 --> 00:39:16.440
way I was raised. We have an oral history, an

642
00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:19.719
oral tradition. We don't write things down. We just pass

643
00:39:19.800 --> 00:39:23.400
it down, you know, verbally, And so that's why I

644
00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:26.400
treat the encounters. If anyone who watches my channel, they

645
00:39:26.480 --> 00:39:29.400
know what I'm talking about, I try to bring the

646
00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:33.480
listener into that moment. And that's what our elders did

647
00:39:33.519 --> 00:39:36.280
with us, you know, whether it be oh, caribou hunting,

648
00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:38.519
we were up here, we took the third slew on

649
00:39:38.599 --> 00:39:41.440
the right, and you go up past the very patches,

650
00:39:41.480 --> 00:39:44.039
you get into the scrib rush and you know you'll

651
00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:46.480
find the caribou back over there. You know. The level

652
00:39:46.519 --> 00:39:50.960
of detail we were raised with when sharing information with

653
00:39:51.039 --> 00:39:55.320
each other was it wasn't too oh I'm going to

654
00:39:55.360 --> 00:39:58.719
share all the details. It was life and death, you

655
00:39:58.760 --> 00:40:01.280
know what I mean. It had to be accurate information,

656
00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:05.639
and that's why I get upset, with those who claim

657
00:40:05.719 --> 00:40:10.800
all history is just that, it's a it's fanciful, it's folklore,

658
00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:13.599
it's mythology, you know, that kind of that kind of crap,

659
00:40:13.679 --> 00:40:19.039
that that's so inaccurate. Our all tradition and our oral

660
00:40:19.159 --> 00:40:23.639
history allowed us to live this long. I mean, Cambridge

661
00:40:23.679 --> 00:40:27.639
was what built in sixteen ninety two, Harvard, Okay, the

662
00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:30.320
first brick and mortar that everyone talks, you know, their

663
00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:33.599
education from book. Our oral history goes back to millennia

664
00:40:33.679 --> 00:40:37.800
past that, you know, even further, so you know, when

665
00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:41.400
the educated get this idea that well, because they learned

666
00:40:41.400 --> 00:40:44.079
something in a book, therefore it has more relevance and

667
00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:48.199
validation versus something that was passed on orally. I stopped

668
00:40:48.199 --> 00:40:50.760
at that. That that's the level of arrogance. That is

669
00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:54.679
just I just don't I don't go for that crap,

670
00:40:55.039 --> 00:40:59.840
you know what I mean, because it's it's dismissive. You know.

671
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:02.880
They want to they want to call it archaic, you

672
00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:06.920
know whatever, and just chuck it up the folk war.

673
00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:10.360
And that's not the case. It's not the case at all.

674
00:41:11.239 --> 00:41:13.679
That's extremely interesting. I never thought of it that way before,

675
00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:18.239
but that is that is very very cool. Fred So

676
00:41:18.599 --> 00:41:21.440
you mentioned earlier. How there are these times in your

677
00:41:21.719 --> 00:41:29.800
early childhood where you you know, experience things and saw things.

678
00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:33.079
There were there times also in your as you got

679
00:41:33.079 --> 00:41:37.000
into adulthood where you know, you had experiences that kind

680
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:40.679
of cemented it into your mind at an older age

681
00:41:40.679 --> 00:41:41.119
as well.

682
00:41:43.800 --> 00:41:47.039
Oh, yes, several different times. But okay, let me break

683
00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:49.639
down for you. Sure we would see him at a

684
00:41:49.719 --> 00:41:53.239
distance on a regular basis. No I'm not saying every day,

685
00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:56.840
but on a regular enough basis. We would see him

686
00:41:56.880 --> 00:41:59.559
at a distance. And usually what would happen in those

687
00:41:59.599 --> 00:42:04.039
occurrents would they would either run off or scream at

688
00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:06.639
us and break something. We would run off, And it

689
00:42:06.719 --> 00:42:09.280
was always at a distance. It was never like right

690
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:13.039
up on us, except for a few times in passing,

691
00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:18.199
but it was always just inside a vehicle, just inside

692
00:42:18.239 --> 00:42:20.679
a house and things like that, to where they would

693
00:42:20.760 --> 00:42:25.599
they would typically leave or we would leave. H In

694
00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:29.119
ninety five, we me and my cousin, Spencer, and a

695
00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:33.119
couple other people, we were looking for woodland cariboo. They're

696
00:42:33.119 --> 00:42:35.320
a little bigger than your standard cariboo, what you would

697
00:42:35.320 --> 00:42:38.400
call a ranger, and we were we were checking these

698
00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:41.519
out pine meadows where some locals said Hey, they mill

699
00:42:41.599 --> 00:42:43.400
around up there. If you go up there and look,

700
00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:46.920
you'll probably find one. So we wanted one, and so

701
00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:50.159
we're up there on foot. We had we had beached

702
00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:54.400
our skiff, and we walked up this hill and they're

703
00:42:54.440 --> 00:42:57.360
sloping kind of like steps as we're going up to

704
00:42:57.519 --> 00:43:01.000
each of these little outpine meadows. And we got up

705
00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:03.760
to the upper, the most upper one in this portion

706
00:43:03.840 --> 00:43:08.079
of the basically the Wood River Mountains. And we got

707
00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:10.679
up to this step and it was a lot of

708
00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:15.320
grass and muskeg just at the beginnings of like a

709
00:43:17.559 --> 00:43:20.639
probably an ancient beaver pond, I would guess because of

710
00:43:20.679 --> 00:43:23.920
how the land laid. But it was all grass through there.

711
00:43:24.079 --> 00:43:26.480
And there was trees off to our right hand side

712
00:43:26.519 --> 00:43:30.239
about eighty yards away roughly, and these are black spruce,

713
00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:32.840
so they're not very big, and you know, they're just

714
00:43:33.559 --> 00:43:36.360
you know, they were there. Well, when we get up there,

715
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:40.079
there was no wind and the grass was about four

716
00:43:40.119 --> 00:43:44.000
foot tall, and so we're looking around for sign a caribout,

717
00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:47.239
and the wind blew from behind us and started, you know,

718
00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:49.920
the grass moved like you would see a wave crash

719
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:52.719
against the beach, you know what I mean. And this

720
00:43:52.760 --> 00:43:57.280
grass was moving and this one portion didn't move. It

721
00:43:57.400 --> 00:44:02.719
was a female sasquatch and it was squatted down, and

722
00:44:02.920 --> 00:44:05.880
if the wind hadn't blown, we would have never seen her.

723
00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:10.199
But the wind blew we noticed, and immediately she stood up.

724
00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:14.679
Because the gig was up, we saw her. She stood up.

725
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:19.960
She basically had a caramel kind of dead grass color,

726
00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:23.639
and she was dark on the lower portion of her body.

727
00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:28.199
But once we saw her, she made eye contacts, stood

728
00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:31.039
there briefly and let out the scream as she ran

729
00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:36.440
from our left to our right, very fast, very very fast.

730
00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:39.440
But her coloring was such that as soon as she

731
00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:45.239
hit those black spruce, she blended in seamlessly like a

732
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:47.599
baby duckling in the grass, you know what I mean.

733
00:44:47.800 --> 00:44:52.320
Just natural camouflage made it appear that she disappeared, but

734
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:54.239
she was still there. You heard her crash through the

735
00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:57.599
trees and stuff, and she was still yellowing and screaming,

736
00:44:57.719 --> 00:44:58.320
running away.

737
00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:02.920
Be back with more Bigfoot society after these words from

738
00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:07.920
our sponsors, and.

739
00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:11.280
That was typically what we would deal with out in

740
00:45:11.320 --> 00:45:15.719
the bush. Typically, you know, some sometimes villagers will say

741
00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:18.920
it stole my fish or this and that, you know,

742
00:45:19.079 --> 00:45:24.159
but never for the most part, you didn't hear about

743
00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:29.360
outright attacks right when you did. It was always second

744
00:45:29.440 --> 00:45:33.400
third hand, you know, so and so went missing, you know,

745
00:45:33.519 --> 00:45:37.119
harry Man attack or whatever, and you didn't disbelieve. You

746
00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:40.800
just basically thought, well, at least it wasn't me, you know,

747
00:45:40.960 --> 00:45:44.320
kind of kind of frame a thought. Up until two

748
00:45:44.360 --> 00:45:47.679
thousand and six, I would have told you they screamed,

749
00:45:47.719 --> 00:45:50.639
they break stuff, you leave, they throw stuff. Every once

750
00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:53.000
in a while, they may come around your house, but

751
00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:56.480
they eventually leave. Just leave them alone, you know that.

752
00:45:56.480 --> 00:46:00.280
That was my mindset up until six. And what happened

753
00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:04.079
in two thousand and six is it actually started in

754
00:46:04.519 --> 00:46:09.239
four when my uncle he wanted to go gold prospecting,

755
00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:14.519
and he knew he had to get portable sluice box,

756
00:46:14.840 --> 00:46:17.440
you know, everything portable because you know, we had limited

757
00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:20.440
capacity on the twenty two foot skip and he wanted

758
00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:23.679
to be a fishing and so it took a couple

759
00:46:23.639 --> 00:46:26.760
of seasons for him to cure all this stuff. And

760
00:46:27.039 --> 00:46:31.400
in six, at the end of the fishing season, he said,

761
00:46:31.440 --> 00:46:33.679
this is the year you got the time. I said,

762
00:46:33.800 --> 00:46:36.199
sure do, uncle, you know, just just name the time. Well,

763
00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:39.400
he wanted to leave September twelfth, and that's my birthday.

764
00:46:39.960 --> 00:46:42.079
So I asked if we could leave the thirteenth so

765
00:46:42.119 --> 00:46:45.119
I could be in civilization at least some part of

766
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:48.440
civilization for my thirty first birthday, you know. And it

767
00:46:48.519 --> 00:46:51.400
was like, okay, we'll leave the thirteenth. So we left

768
00:46:51.440 --> 00:46:54.360
Gillingham the thirteenth of September in two thousand and six,

769
00:46:55.079 --> 00:46:57.599
and we launched from Squad Creek and we went up

770
00:46:57.679 --> 00:47:01.400
the Newsgak River and it's roughly two hundred and forty

771
00:47:01.400 --> 00:47:03.800
eight river miles to the New Yakuk River where we

772
00:47:03.800 --> 00:47:07.159
were going, and that was a couple of days process

773
00:47:07.239 --> 00:47:09.639
because my uncle was in his mid to late sixties

774
00:47:09.679 --> 00:47:12.519
at that time and he would get cold on the water.

775
00:47:13.280 --> 00:47:15.960
So we stopped in the Studia Hawk, visited with family

776
00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:18.159
for a day or so, and then went up river,

777
00:47:18.880 --> 00:47:22.199
refueled that Kaliganik and then continued on up to the

778
00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:26.519
nu Ya Cut and we got to the New Yeakuk

779
00:47:27.480 --> 00:47:32.199
September seventeenth, and it was a couple hours before dark.

780
00:47:32.599 --> 00:47:35.880
We had got there, and me and my cousin wanted

781
00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:38.000
to run up and down the river real quick, just

782
00:47:38.119 --> 00:47:40.280
check things out, but because it was getting late and

783
00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:43.280
had the boat to unload, we opted to wait till

784
00:47:43.320 --> 00:47:49.639
the next day. So we unload everything, and we weren't loud,

785
00:47:49.719 --> 00:47:52.360
we weren't boisterous, we weren't parting it up or just

786
00:47:52.440 --> 00:47:55.119
randomly shooting guns off in the woods or anything like that.

787
00:47:55.199 --> 00:47:57.639
We just unloaded the skiff and went into this little

788
00:47:57.679 --> 00:48:02.880
salmon counting tower shacks. It was eight foot square. Everything

789
00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:07.199
was made with minimal cutting because in remote Alaska, by

790
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:11.079
state law, you can't have any permanent structures. So this

791
00:48:11.119 --> 00:48:13.920
thing was on skids. So it's an eight foot square.

792
00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:19.920
It's five inches plywood on two by four studs. Minimal construction,

793
00:48:20.199 --> 00:48:23.400
I mean bare minimum. Is basically a dried end shell.

794
00:48:23.559 --> 00:48:26.320
And on the back side of this place was a

795
00:48:26.360 --> 00:48:29.360
fifty style egg shell kind of looking camper, you know

796
00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:32.559
the kind I'm talking about, little toe behind the front

797
00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:35.400
of that had been cut off and mounted to the

798
00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:39.840
back side of this little shack, and all the windows

799
00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:43.280
were blacked out. In that back portion. It was a

800
00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:46.239
bunk bunk area because land of the midnight sun, it

801
00:48:46.360 --> 00:48:51.280
stays light out, you know, Dan Knights, and so when

802
00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:53.559
you step in the door as you come up the bank,

803
00:48:53.920 --> 00:48:56.480
it's about twenty feet to the front of this place,

804
00:48:56.639 --> 00:49:00.360
and it's about a six seven foot climb because it's

805
00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:02.800
on a cut back to get to the to the

806
00:49:02.800 --> 00:49:05.559
top of the bank there. And when you're looking at

807
00:49:05.559 --> 00:49:07.840
the place, if you're looking directly at it from the front,

808
00:49:08.400 --> 00:49:10.599
the door is to the left hand side of it.

809
00:49:10.639 --> 00:49:13.679
There's an old oil drum stand to the right hand side.

810
00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:17.039
And again this is only eight foot wide, and so

811
00:49:17.119 --> 00:49:20.039
when you open this door, it's flimsy. It's two by

812
00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:22.840
four on five aks plywood. All ahead was this little

813
00:49:22.960 --> 00:49:25.719
j hook to keep the door shut, and a little

814
00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:28.679
bit of a old piece of drift wood screwed into

815
00:49:28.719 --> 00:49:33.400
the two by four as a handle. So when you

816
00:49:33.440 --> 00:49:37.199
step in, there's a little card table immediately to your

817
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:41.679
left right there, and eighteen by twenty inch window right

818
00:49:41.679 --> 00:49:45.480
above it, and mirroring that window across on the other

819
00:49:45.559 --> 00:49:49.639
side was a little miniature sink, a little tiny sink

820
00:49:49.679 --> 00:49:52.639
that drained right to the outside, and another eighteen by

821
00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:56.199
twenty four inch window on that side. And then you

822
00:49:56.280 --> 00:49:58.800
got the little entryway dead center on the back side

823
00:49:58.840 --> 00:50:02.960
that went into this fifty trailer. So we get in there,

824
00:50:03.599 --> 00:50:08.119
landload everything, and my uncle cooks for us. He made

825
00:50:08.199 --> 00:50:13.280
some salmon head chowder and whatnot, and we had gotten

826
00:50:13.320 --> 00:50:16.719
done eating, and that year I had spent some of

827
00:50:16.760 --> 00:50:20.480
my fishing money on a brand new Remington eight seventy shotgun.

828
00:50:20.599 --> 00:50:22.320
It was a rifle barrel. It is going to be

829
00:50:22.400 --> 00:50:26.000
my slug gun, you know, just a gun with a brush,

830
00:50:26.079 --> 00:50:28.639
and I was real happy with it. But the rear

831
00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:31.880
sight I was trying to adjust it, and because I

832
00:50:31.880 --> 00:50:33.599
had shot it a couple of times run up river,

833
00:50:33.639 --> 00:50:35.760
and I noticed that the site was off a little bit.

834
00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:39.280
So as I was doing the adjustments. At this point

835
00:50:39.320 --> 00:50:42.320
in time, my uncle and my cousin are playing cribbage

836
00:50:42.360 --> 00:50:45.079
at this little table and we got a Coleman lantern

837
00:50:45.079 --> 00:50:47.559
going because it's about a half hour after dark at

838
00:50:47.559 --> 00:50:52.119
this point. And as we're sitting there talking, my uncle

839
00:50:52.199 --> 00:50:55.079
was giving us instruction on you know, I want a

840
00:50:55.079 --> 00:50:57.280
couple of buckets of paydrick from over here, that I

841
00:50:57.320 --> 00:50:58.840
want to try to say apple and this and that,

842
00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:03.679
because his over a goal was to basically stick a claim.

843
00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:08.039
And this is just out of the proposed pebble mind,

844
00:51:08.079 --> 00:51:11.159
which is, according to what they say, the largest gold

845
00:51:11.280 --> 00:51:15.119
and copper reserves in the world. Okay, so there there's

846
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:17.760
a reason for that, because there's gold everywhere over there right,

847
00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:21.920
so that his his idea was to basically start a

848
00:51:21.960 --> 00:51:25.159
goal mine but you know, just start small and see

849
00:51:25.159 --> 00:51:28.400
what we could find, was his line of thinking. So

850
00:51:28.599 --> 00:51:31.639
he's given us instruction on where he wants the buckets

851
00:51:31.639 --> 00:51:34.480
and this and that, and I'm still dinking with this

852
00:51:34.599 --> 00:51:38.960
rear sighte Well, as he's talking, all of a sudden,

853
00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:41.480
the whole place kind of shifts. It just made this

854
00:51:41.880 --> 00:51:46.000
creaking kind of sound, right, And so there was no

855
00:51:46.079 --> 00:51:49.199
wind blowing, because again this is just a glorified box.

856
00:51:50.199 --> 00:51:52.159
We would have known that the wind was blowing, you

857
00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:54.280
know what I mean. And there was no wind blowing.

858
00:51:54.360 --> 00:51:57.599
So when I look over at my cousin where he's sitting,

859
00:51:57.639 --> 00:51:59.920
he's got the window behind him. In between the show

860
00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:02.760
and the top of that window, I saw dark movement.

861
00:52:03.880 --> 00:52:06.519
And the way I looked over there, he jumps up

862
00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:09.360
and says, hey, that ain't funny, and I was like, no, no,

863
00:52:09.400 --> 00:52:12.199
there was movement. So we're on the Salmon River right

864
00:52:12.239 --> 00:52:14.480
there was spawn outs in the river as we're coming up,

865
00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:18.880
you know, so we immediately thought there, I mean, it

866
00:52:18.960 --> 00:52:21.440
was the only thing that made sense. Harry Man wasn't

867
00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:25.599
on our mind. It had because it was around we

868
00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:29.960
just superstition wise. When it comes to most villagers, they

869
00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:32.400
don't talk about it because it could bring a bad

870
00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:35.199
omen and so there's a lot of superstition involved. So

871
00:52:35.400 --> 00:52:38.320
it was nothing we actually openly talked about a lot

872
00:52:38.360 --> 00:52:42.079
of time. So he grabs a thirty out to six.

873
00:52:42.239 --> 00:52:44.239
I got that shot there, and we had one of

874
00:52:44.280 --> 00:52:50.280
those million candlewalk powered like six bolt spotlights right fresh

875
00:52:50.320 --> 00:52:54.000
battery in it. We opened that door and to our

876
00:52:54.079 --> 00:52:56.119
right would be the river bank, and to our left,

877
00:52:56.159 --> 00:52:59.679
about fifty yards away would be the tree line. And

878
00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:03.360
immediately I pointed to the side where we saw the movement.

879
00:53:03.559 --> 00:53:06.440
Well where I saw the movement, there's nothing there, and

880
00:53:06.440 --> 00:53:08.719
we beamed towards our left and more only about a

881
00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:12.360
step outside of this door, maybe a foot and half.

882
00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:15.199
We're shoulder the shoulder. We got guns ready, we're going

883
00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:18.000
to scare this bear off. And as I pant to

884
00:53:18.079 --> 00:53:22.239
the left, once we hit the tree line to our left,

885
00:53:23.599 --> 00:53:26.559
we come across three sets of eye shine, and the

886
00:53:26.639 --> 00:53:31.199
eye shine was red. We could see these creatures. They

887
00:53:32.039 --> 00:53:37.880
their eyes were huge. They reminded me of fence post markers,

888
00:53:38.079 --> 00:53:41.599
you know, those three inch fence post markers. They were

889
00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:49.639
that big. And immediately like shock took over. It seemed

890
00:53:53.519 --> 00:53:58.280
it was ominous, an instant feeling of dread because typically,

891
00:53:58.639 --> 00:54:02.360
from what we've experienced, or you beam a flash lad

892
00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:04.320
at them, they kind of duck behind a tree, they

893
00:54:04.440 --> 00:54:08.760
kind of tried to hide themselves. Well, these three didn't move.

894
00:54:09.119 --> 00:54:12.000
They just stood there. So we duck right back inside

895
00:54:12.599 --> 00:54:16.320
and I shut that little jay hook. And what was

896
00:54:16.559 --> 00:54:19.719
really weird is it felt like we put on ear

897
00:54:19.800 --> 00:54:22.159
muffs as soon as we went in back inside and

898
00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:25.440
I shut that little jay hook, it was like everything

899
00:54:25.559 --> 00:54:30.280
was muffled. I was talking and it's you know, have

900
00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:32.440
you ever been on a plane where your ears hadn't

901
00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:35.320
fully popped, so the person sitting next to you sounds like,

902
00:54:35.679 --> 00:54:38.599
you know, they're right there, they sound kind of far away.

903
00:54:39.199 --> 00:54:42.280
It was that kind of feeling. And so I'm talking

904
00:54:42.320 --> 00:54:45.599
and I'm talking to my cousin. I was like, as

905
00:54:45.639 --> 00:54:48.000
I'm talking to my cousin about you saw what I saw? Right,

906
00:54:48.039 --> 00:54:49.719
And I tell him, my uncle, there's a hering man

907
00:54:49.719 --> 00:54:52.719
out there. There's three of them. As I'm saying that,

908
00:54:54.119 --> 00:54:58.360
within a moment, my cousin's on my left shoulder and

909
00:54:58.400 --> 00:55:00.920
he's holding the barrel of that thirty out to six

910
00:55:01.119 --> 00:55:03.159
with his hands kind of like just down. He had

911
00:55:03.159 --> 00:55:05.599
the butt of the gun down between his feet. I

912
00:55:05.599 --> 00:55:07.880
had just set the spotlight down, and I'm holding that

913
00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:11.800
shotgun in my left hand, kind of off ended, trying

914
00:55:11.840 --> 00:55:14.840
to discuss what we're seeing. And all of a sudden,

915
00:55:14.920 --> 00:55:18.719
my cousin is bamn underneath that card table had a

916
00:55:18.800 --> 00:55:23.119
death grip on that barrel, and he's kind of moving

917
00:55:23.119 --> 00:55:25.400
his arms up and down like he was turning butter

918
00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:29.079
a little bit, and he had wet himself and was

919
00:55:29.239 --> 00:55:32.440
just kind of not not writhing around, but kind of

920
00:55:32.440 --> 00:55:38.360
twitchy a little bit. And he's looking the opposite towards

921
00:55:38.400 --> 00:55:41.119
the opposite side, towards that window. But me and my

922
00:55:41.199 --> 00:55:43.920
uncle looked at each other, We looked down at him,

923
00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:47.360
we looked back at each other, and we realized he's

924
00:55:47.400 --> 00:55:50.400
looking across the little room to that other window by

925
00:55:50.400 --> 00:55:55.079
the sink. So I'm literally about three feet from this window,

926
00:55:56.000 --> 00:55:59.360
and we both turn at the same time. And once

927
00:55:59.400 --> 00:56:02.320
I made I contact with this well, once my eyes

928
00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:05.159
made contact with this thing, I could tell it was

929
00:56:05.199 --> 00:56:08.280
looking at my cousin. But as soon as I was

930
00:56:08.320 --> 00:56:10.559
looking at it, it turned its gaze at me and

931
00:56:10.639 --> 00:56:14.719
hurled its brow. I only saw from the bottom of

932
00:56:14.719 --> 00:56:17.639
its nose to the top of its eyebrow in that

933
00:56:17.760 --> 00:56:22.880
eight and space. It had ash gray skin. Its eyes

934
00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:27.679
were like black, translucent marbles. There was a slight glow

935
00:56:27.719 --> 00:56:30.639
to m from the Coleman lantern, but it wasn't like

936
00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:33.639
a full on eyeshine. It was a little doll down.

937
00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:44.360
Within two milliseconds, I immediately knew what it felt like

938
00:56:44.480 --> 00:56:47.320
to be prey. I knew what it felt like to

939
00:56:47.400 --> 00:56:49.880
be the rabbit in the hole with the wolf outside.

940
00:56:50.280 --> 00:56:53.719
It wasn't no mind speak. It was in the air.

941
00:56:54.079 --> 00:56:57.000
It was something about the energy in the air was

942
00:56:57.719 --> 00:57:00.679
that of death, like you know, And and the way

943
00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:04.039
it looked at me and and furled its brow to

944
00:57:04.159 --> 00:57:10.960
kind of like glare right at me within milliseconds. It's

945
00:57:10.960 --> 00:57:13.519
taken way longer to explain it than how it happened,

946
00:57:13.519 --> 00:57:16.880
because I turned, it gave me that look, and it

947
00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:20.280
started moving out of view of the window towards my right,

948
00:57:20.320 --> 00:57:22.400
and I just shut through the wall right there three

949
00:57:22.440 --> 00:57:26.559
times with that shotgun. And what was weird is is

950
00:57:26.760 --> 00:57:30.559
I discharged a shotgun in the small room and there

951
00:57:30.599 --> 00:57:32.639
was no ringing of the ears. It just sounded like

952
00:57:32.679 --> 00:57:37.559
a bump, bump, bump because of that pressure. That and

953
00:57:37.679 --> 00:57:41.880
this pressure I'm referring to it. It stayed the whole time,

954
00:57:42.119 --> 00:57:46.480
during this whole encounter, so it was constant. It didn't vary,

955
00:57:46.679 --> 00:57:49.119
it didn't get less or heavier. It was a constant.

956
00:57:49.199 --> 00:57:52.840
But so I shoot the three times and immediately there

957
00:57:52.920 --> 00:57:57.119
is a scream and a simultaneous shift of this place.

958
00:57:57.280 --> 00:57:58.840
And you know, I thought it was going to push

959
00:57:58.920 --> 00:58:03.079
us in the river. Just I mean, we're less than

960
00:58:03.079 --> 00:58:05.800
twenty feet from the bank. You know, I really thought

961
00:58:05.800 --> 00:58:07.960
we're going in the river. But there's this scream that

962
00:58:08.119 --> 00:58:11.400
was so loud it shook everything in there. That pot

963
00:58:11.519 --> 00:58:13.800
that the stew was made in, it rang like a

964
00:58:13.880 --> 00:58:17.760
tuning fork from the screen. The lantern was swinging. It

965
00:58:17.840 --> 00:58:21.639
almost took me off my feet, and everything went quiet.

966
00:58:22.679 --> 00:58:26.719
There was no more sound. My cousin wasn't responding. My

967
00:58:26.880 --> 00:58:29.039
uncle said a couple of things, but he basically went

968
00:58:29.079 --> 00:58:37.800
and sat in the bunk room there, and I'm freaking out.

969
00:58:36.920 --> 00:58:42.559
I was yelling at them to help me. I was.

970
00:58:43.519 --> 00:58:49.280
I felt all alone, and I'm amongst some of the

971
00:58:49.280 --> 00:58:54.440
most hardcore subsistence hunters that I have ever known. You

972
00:58:54.480 --> 00:58:58.920
know my cousin, for example, he was shoulder and the

973
00:58:58.960 --> 00:59:03.920
shoulder with me with the charging south, you know, over

974
00:59:03.960 --> 00:59:08.480
eight hundred pounds female brown bear charging us. He stood

975
00:59:08.519 --> 00:59:11.840
his ground, and to see him, he had wet himself.

976
00:59:11.880 --> 00:59:16.760
He's babbling underneath the table, and my uncle isn't engaging me,

977
00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:26.760
And so I knew it wasn't over. Like something within me,

978
00:59:27.239 --> 00:59:29.760
I knew we couldn't just okay, let's call it a

979
00:59:29.880 --> 00:59:31.800
night and start fresh in the morning kind of thing,

980
00:59:31.840 --> 00:59:36.320
because that wasn't what was happening. The energy was very ominous.

981
00:59:37.320 --> 00:59:40.000
It was dead quiet. So what I ended up doing

982
00:59:40.199 --> 00:59:42.639
was is I slid one of the chairs over by

983
00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:46.000
that stupid little flimsy door for whatever good that would do.

984
00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:49.000
And I took the other chair and I put it

985
00:59:49.159 --> 00:59:52.199
right at the opening of that little cubby, and I

986
00:59:52.280 --> 00:59:56.239
basically sat there in that chair listening to that Coleman

987
00:59:56.320 --> 00:59:59.039
lantern his I don't know if you've ever dealt with them,

988
00:59:59.079 --> 01:00:02.320
the white gas. You gotta pump him every once in

989
01:00:02.320 --> 01:00:02.719
a while.

990
01:00:04.599 --> 01:00:07.480
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991
01:00:07.480 --> 01:00:11.599
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992
01:00:12.639 --> 01:00:16.079
But I sat there for gosh had to been five

993
01:00:16.199 --> 01:00:24.199
six hours, periodically asking for help. The only the only

994
01:00:24.320 --> 01:00:30.199
reason I was able to stop shaking like uncontrollably was

995
01:00:30.480 --> 01:00:35.719
I I resigned myself to death. I had to. Literally,

996
01:00:36.639 --> 01:00:39.440
I'm a dead man. I had to accept it, and

997
01:00:39.519 --> 01:00:41.800
I had to and that was the only way I

998
01:00:41.880 --> 01:00:47.239
could rationally think. I stayed a bunch of ammo. I

999
01:00:47.280 --> 01:00:49.519
tried to get the thirty six for my cousin, but

1000
01:00:49.719 --> 01:00:52.519
it was loaded, and he wasn't letting go. He still

1001
01:00:52.679 --> 01:00:57.800
wasn't responding. He was still in Lola land like, and

1002
01:00:57.960 --> 01:01:01.920
my uncle was basically shut down. He wasn't saying much.

1003
01:01:02.320 --> 01:01:06.280
He had his Bible, he was being quiet. He had

1004
01:01:06.719 --> 01:01:10.639
basically no advice to offer it. He was he wasn't

1005
01:01:10.719 --> 01:01:16.119
engaging whatsoever. And so I sat there pumping that lantern.

1006
01:01:16.159 --> 01:01:19.039
Every once in a while, I was gripping that shotgun

1007
01:01:20.039 --> 01:01:24.000
so hard that it hurts my hands. I would have

1008
01:01:24.079 --> 01:01:26.400
to let go and shake life back in my hands

1009
01:01:26.480 --> 01:01:31.000
because my hands I was gripping it so hard. And

1010
01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:35.519
you know, when a moth would hit the window, Oh

1011
01:01:35.599 --> 01:01:40.679
my god, there were several times I almost swiss cheese

1012
01:01:40.719 --> 01:01:42.960
that place from the inside out, just from a moth

1013
01:01:43.039 --> 01:01:47.840
hitting the window. There was moments a time where I

1014
01:01:47.880 --> 01:01:50.519
was just screaming out loud, you know, ef, and come

1015
01:01:50.599 --> 01:01:56.239
get me, you know, various things. Just it was rough

1016
01:01:58.920 --> 01:02:02.559
because I was with two other people I loved, but

1017
01:02:02.599 --> 01:02:07.360
no one was helping me, you know. And so and

1018
01:02:07.400 --> 01:02:10.360
I'm guestimating because I was in fits of terror, you know.

1019
01:02:11.039 --> 01:02:13.360
So the time frame of how long I sat there

1020
01:02:13.960 --> 01:02:18.280
without my cousin responding, I'm guessing five to six hours,

1021
01:02:18.880 --> 01:02:23.599
you give or take, because again I wasn't fully in

1022
01:02:23.599 --> 01:02:26.760
my right mind, but I knew in my heart of hearts,

1023
01:02:26.800 --> 01:02:29.239
I couldn't just go lay down and call it at night.

1024
01:02:29.679 --> 01:02:32.599
I just shot this thing through the wall. And I

1025
01:02:32.639 --> 01:02:35.639
don't know what else is coming. You know. We saw

1026
01:02:35.679 --> 01:02:38.159
the three sets of eye shine. This one was looking

1027
01:02:38.199 --> 01:02:41.679
at the in the window at us, So I knew

1028
01:02:41.920 --> 01:02:45.400
it was it was going on. Whatever was happening was happening,

1029
01:02:46.079 --> 01:02:48.360
and it's gonna be what's gonna be kind of thing.

1030
01:02:49.960 --> 01:02:53.119
Once my cousin did start coming out of his stupor,

1031
01:02:54.119 --> 01:02:57.880
and it took a while because he was incoherent. He

1032
01:02:58.000 --> 01:03:02.480
was babbling stuff, stuff, It made no sense, gibberish. But

1033
01:03:02.559 --> 01:03:05.599
once he once he was back more to himself, and

1034
01:03:05.639 --> 01:03:10.559
I got him talking, We got him changed, and I

1035
01:03:10.599 --> 01:03:12.840
got him calmed down enough, you know, by reassuring him

1036
01:03:12.840 --> 01:03:15.039
I shot it, man, it ran away. I shot it.

1037
01:03:15.039 --> 01:03:18.760
It's gone, And you know that helped. It brought peace

1038
01:03:18.800 --> 01:03:22.440
and calm to him a little bit. But we were

1039
01:03:22.519 --> 01:03:25.679
still in the middle of it, you know, and I

1040
01:03:25.719 --> 01:03:30.000
asked him, I was like, what did you see? And

1041
01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:33.000
once he pulled himself together, he told me that it

1042
01:03:33.079 --> 01:03:36.159
showed him his teeth, and from what he said, when

1043
01:03:36.159 --> 01:03:38.039
he was standing next to me and I was talking,

1044
01:03:38.920 --> 01:03:41.599
he looked out that window and there was enough of

1045
01:03:41.639 --> 01:03:45.159
the light from the lantern that he saw it. It

1046
01:03:45.239 --> 01:03:47.280
was a little further away from the window, and it

1047
01:03:47.320 --> 01:03:50.639
showed his teeth and his body shut down. And he

1048
01:03:50.679 --> 01:03:53.159
said when he was under the table looking he was

1049
01:03:53.199 --> 01:03:55.480
trying to tell us, but nothing would come out. He

1050
01:03:55.639 --> 01:03:59.440
was just seizing up, basically. But that's when it came

1051
01:03:59.480 --> 01:04:02.440
in close to the window, and that's when we turned

1052
01:04:02.440 --> 01:04:08.400
and I saw it, and so we realized we need

1053
01:04:08.440 --> 01:04:11.280
to get out of there. It was not going to

1054
01:04:12.239 --> 01:04:15.280
you know, we didn't want to be there. It was

1055
01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:18.400
all bad. So we came up with the game plan.

1056
01:04:18.480 --> 01:04:20.559
We were going to make it to the skiff, which

1057
01:04:20.639 --> 01:04:24.159
is twenty five feet away you know, it seemed like

1058
01:04:24.199 --> 01:04:26.239
ten miles away at the time, but it was literally

1059
01:04:26.440 --> 01:04:29.800
just not very far. And we were going to drift

1060
01:04:29.840 --> 01:04:32.599
out of there until we got further down river because

1061
01:04:32.599 --> 01:04:34.639
it was pitch black. You know, there was no way

1062
01:04:34.679 --> 01:04:38.440
to fire up the outboard and safely navigate the river.

1063
01:04:38.880 --> 01:04:41.559
You know, there's too many dead ball trees, there's rocks,

1064
01:04:41.599 --> 01:04:43.960
there's all sorts of things that could go wrong on that.

1065
01:04:44.679 --> 01:04:46.800
So we were going to use the spotlight our initial

1066
01:04:46.840 --> 01:04:51.679
plan to basically keep ourselves going to you know, downstream

1067
01:04:51.800 --> 01:04:53.880
and you know, use the oars to kind of steer

1068
01:04:53.920 --> 01:04:58.119
or whatever. That was our initial plan. And so we're

1069
01:04:58.119 --> 01:05:02.239
sitting there quiet for a while, and as we're getting up,

1070
01:05:02.239 --> 01:05:05.280
because it was so quiet, we were getting more brave,

1071
01:05:05.519 --> 01:05:08.760
we were getting more courage to make this move. And

1072
01:05:08.800 --> 01:05:12.360
my cousin brings up, let's use the spotlight and see

1073
01:05:12.360 --> 01:05:16.480
if there's anything outside we can see. So we shut

1074
01:05:16.559 --> 01:05:20.800
up the lantern because it was creating a mirrored effect inside,

1075
01:05:21.760 --> 01:05:24.119
you know what I mean. And so with it being

1076
01:05:24.159 --> 01:05:27.480
pitched black outside, the light inside just made the windows

1077
01:05:27.480 --> 01:05:29.920
look like mirrors. So we killed that and we beamed

1078
01:05:29.920 --> 01:05:33.960
out the riverside first, and we took a really good look.

1079
01:05:34.280 --> 01:05:37.519
We saw nothing on that side, and believe me, we

1080
01:05:37.519 --> 01:05:40.320
were really really looking. And so we went to the

1081
01:05:40.400 --> 01:05:44.840
other side and we started at the point we saw

1082
01:05:45.039 --> 01:05:48.880
the three sets of eye shine and we're beaming and

1083
01:05:48.920 --> 01:05:52.639
we see nothing. I mean, there's nothing. It's quiet, gad quiet.

1084
01:05:53.360 --> 01:05:57.199
And this beam. This spotlight had a fresh battery, so

1085
01:05:57.239 --> 01:05:59.840
it's not like, you know, it didn't have that they can.

1086
01:06:00.559 --> 01:06:05.440
It was bright. And we beam in there kitty corner

1087
01:06:05.480 --> 01:06:08.519
off the back side of this shack, about forty feet

1088
01:06:08.920 --> 01:06:12.320
there's this old outhouse set long out of use, but

1089
01:06:12.400 --> 01:06:14.400
it was about eight eight and a half foot tall.

1090
01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:18.400
It was built with minimal cuts and it had a

1091
01:06:18.400 --> 01:06:20.719
one sided roof, but at its highest point it was

1092
01:06:20.719 --> 01:06:23.400
about eight eight and a half feet tall. Once we

1093
01:06:23.559 --> 01:06:27.880
beamed back to that point, we noticed this big, hulking

1094
01:06:27.960 --> 01:06:31.119
silhouette behind it. It wasn't immediately behind it, it was

1095
01:06:31.280 --> 01:06:33.960
kind of back a little bit from it. But this

1096
01:06:34.079 --> 01:06:38.960
silhouette was every bit of thirteen or fourteen foot tall.

1097
01:06:39.400 --> 01:06:42.440
It was hulking, five five and a half foot wide.

1098
01:06:44.320 --> 01:06:48.480
It's black, the creepiest thing. Its size was immense, but

1099
01:06:49.039 --> 01:06:52.039
it was absorbing the light. It was giving nothing back.

1100
01:06:52.119 --> 01:06:55.559
No eyeshine. Even a BlackBerry can beam it with a

1101
01:06:55.559 --> 01:06:58.159
flashlight at night, it has kind of like a silky

1102
01:06:58.320 --> 01:07:01.440
kind of chrome copper, you know, kind of reflection to

1103
01:07:02.280 --> 01:07:05.400
its high This gave nothing. It was like it was

1104
01:07:05.480 --> 01:07:08.880
absorbing all the light. It was like a big black

1105
01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:13.199
nothing there for us. So it started moving a little

1106
01:07:13.239 --> 01:07:16.760
bit towards our right. We immediately killed that spotlight and

1107
01:07:16.800 --> 01:07:20.480
we're all took back into that little cobby pitch black.

1108
01:07:21.639 --> 01:07:24.039
We were freaking out. I know, we had the barrels

1109
01:07:24.079 --> 01:07:27.440
cross because I kept hearing the barrel of my shotgun

1110
01:07:27.639 --> 01:07:29.920
butting against the barrel of the thirty odd to six.

1111
01:07:31.079 --> 01:07:35.440
And we stayed like that for gosh quite a while, again,

1112
01:07:36.599 --> 01:07:40.280
just dead quiet. All we saw was that menacing holking figure,

1113
01:07:41.079 --> 01:07:46.440
and we hid and we heard nothing. So after a

1114
01:07:46.440 --> 01:07:51.599
while it being dead quiet, we started reformulating our game plan.

1115
01:07:52.639 --> 01:07:57.360
And as we're going over it and stuff oft in

1116
01:07:57.360 --> 01:08:02.760
the near distance, it sounded like rotor wash from helicopter.

1117
01:08:02.840 --> 01:08:07.199
That fumpump frump sound. Well, we started feeling it in

1118
01:08:07.239 --> 01:08:09.639
the ground and what it was was one of these

1119
01:08:09.639 --> 01:08:14.800
things running by the shack. And as soon as it

1120
01:08:15.079 --> 01:08:18.840
ran by, because we felt it in the ground, and

1121
01:08:18.920 --> 01:08:21.239
as soon as it ran by, it was like other

1122
01:08:21.279 --> 01:08:24.720
ones were surrounding the place and they started running around

1123
01:08:24.760 --> 01:08:26.840
as well. I don't know if they were trying to

1124
01:08:26.960 --> 01:08:29.119
draw our fire or see if we were going to

1125
01:08:29.159 --> 01:08:32.800
shoot again, or just outright terrorize us, I don't know,

1126
01:08:33.439 --> 01:08:36.199
but they ran around and then they would it seemed

1127
01:08:36.199 --> 01:08:37.960
like they would back off, and then they would do

1128
01:08:38.000 --> 01:08:45.279
it again and discontinued. Gosh, in the moment, it seemed

1129
01:08:45.279 --> 01:08:49.880
like about roughly fifteen minutes, give or take, because we

1130
01:08:49.880 --> 01:08:55.680
were white knunckle terror listening to this. And at one point,

1131
01:08:56.520 --> 01:08:59.079
as the running was going on, it sounded like one

1132
01:08:59.119 --> 01:09:03.479
of them was niffing the little trailer attachment to the chat.

1133
01:09:04.840 --> 01:09:13.239
And it's hard to express the level of sheer terror

1134
01:09:13.920 --> 01:09:19.399
like we were. We were stuck, you know. And again,

1135
01:09:19.600 --> 01:09:24.199
you know, one of my driving forces or factors that

1136
01:09:24.479 --> 01:09:27.439
you know, propelled me forward to share people's encounters, is

1137
01:09:28.359 --> 01:09:30.560
they had us dead to rights. They could have smashed

1138
01:09:30.560 --> 01:09:33.479
that place to nothing in a heartbeat, snatched us out

1139
01:09:33.479 --> 01:09:36.840
of there, but yet they didn't. They could have, but

1140
01:09:36.960 --> 01:09:42.279
they didn't. Anyway, Just something that dwells on my mind

1141
01:09:42.319 --> 01:09:44.399
a lot when I think about it, is what they

1142
01:09:44.439 --> 01:09:48.279
could have done, yet they didn't. But anyway, so that

1143
01:09:48.359 --> 01:09:50.479
goes on for a little while, and then they back

1144
01:09:50.520 --> 01:09:54.920
off and it gets quiet like super quiet again. And

1145
01:09:56.600 --> 01:09:59.800
again I don't know exactly how much time transpired, but

1146
01:10:00.199 --> 01:10:03.800
it was starting to get the first glimmers of it

1147
01:10:03.800 --> 01:10:08.399
getting lighter outside, and with it being quiet for so

1148
01:10:08.520 --> 01:10:11.800
long again, we were getting our courage up. We had

1149
01:10:11.800 --> 01:10:15.479
our game plan down, and it dawned on me at

1150
01:10:15.479 --> 01:10:20.800
that point that we drugged the anchor and bow line

1151
01:10:20.840 --> 01:10:24.560
from that skiff fifty to seventy yards. It was a

1152
01:10:24.640 --> 01:10:28.039
long bow line because that skiff was used for a

1153
01:10:28.079 --> 01:10:31.079
sett site, and so your anchor had to be long

1154
01:10:31.199 --> 01:10:34.760
enough to hook the bottom and still not get swamped

1155
01:10:34.760 --> 01:10:38.119
when high tide came in. Right, So we had taken

1156
01:10:38.159 --> 01:10:40.199
that anchor when we first got there and drug it

1157
01:10:40.199 --> 01:10:42.399
back over on to the tundra and dug it into

1158
01:10:42.439 --> 01:10:46.760
the tundra. So we're basically teathered into the place. And

1159
01:10:46.840 --> 01:10:50.079
luckily just ten foot of that bowl line was chained,

1160
01:10:50.119 --> 01:10:54.079
and then it went to a regular rope. And so

1161
01:10:54.199 --> 01:10:56.439
I told my cousin, you know, when you go first,

1162
01:10:56.479 --> 01:10:59.359
you're gonna have to cut that bow line and I'll

1163
01:10:59.399 --> 01:11:03.000
make sure that you know, your dad falls behind me

1164
01:11:03.319 --> 01:11:07.319
and I'll keep a guard while you start to outboard

1165
01:11:07.319 --> 01:11:09.359
and all that stuff. Right that that was our game plan.

1166
01:11:10.399 --> 01:11:13.039
And so we're sitting there and we're just getting our

1167
01:11:13.079 --> 01:11:16.439
courage up because it's getting lighter out, and all of

1168
01:11:16.439 --> 01:11:19.000
a sudden, that same side of the wall that the

1169
01:11:19.039 --> 01:11:21.920
door is on the front side, it sounded like a

1170
01:11:21.960 --> 01:11:26.479
pelagun shooting it. At first, it was just a that

1171
01:11:26.479 --> 01:11:30.279
that sound, right, and then the cadence increased where and

1172
01:11:30.319 --> 01:11:32.199
then all of a sudden, it was like a hailstorm

1173
01:11:32.239 --> 01:11:35.840
against that side. So again immediately we retreated back into

1174
01:11:35.880 --> 01:11:40.439
that cubby. The alls crossed again, like what it was like.

1175
01:11:40.600 --> 01:11:43.439
Every time we were getting up the gumption to make

1176
01:11:43.479 --> 01:11:46.560
a break for it. It was almost like they sensed

1177
01:11:46.560 --> 01:11:50.319
it and they would do something to terrorize us. I

1178
01:11:50.359 --> 01:11:53.960
felt toyed with. I really felt like cat and mouse,

1179
01:11:54.079 --> 01:11:58.800
and so that that still bothers me to this day. Anyway,

1180
01:11:59.079 --> 01:12:04.960
So we're in this cubby and we're all being quiet,

1181
01:12:05.279 --> 01:12:07.520
and after this quiet for a while, we start whispering

1182
01:12:07.520 --> 01:12:13.039
because it's getting lighter outside. And we sat there to

1183
01:12:13.079 --> 01:12:15.800
where it was light enough where we could easily see

1184
01:12:15.840 --> 01:12:18.199
the tree line. We couldn't really see into the trees

1185
01:12:18.199 --> 01:12:21.119
too much because it was still silhouetted, but there was

1186
01:12:21.279 --> 01:12:24.800
enough daylight to where we could see the open ground

1187
01:12:25.439 --> 01:12:27.399
and what they had been so quiet for so long.

1188
01:12:27.439 --> 01:12:31.239
After that, we've got our courage up and so my

1189
01:12:31.319 --> 01:12:34.159
cousin's in front of me. I'm in the middle, and

1190
01:12:34.319 --> 01:12:38.039
my elders behind me, and I have the thirty six.

1191
01:12:38.119 --> 01:12:41.039
At this point, my cousin has a shot run and

1192
01:12:41.119 --> 01:12:45.439
I have my uncle's thirty his twelve gays old wing mastered,

1193
01:12:45.479 --> 01:12:47.760
big old long goose gun. It was a twelve gage

1194
01:12:48.279 --> 01:12:50.960
but I had that swung over my shoulder for more

1195
01:12:51.039 --> 01:12:55.640
rounds if I needed him. Because he was in his sixties,

1196
01:12:55.760 --> 01:12:59.359
he wasn't imbolent, but he wasn't spry, you know what

1197
01:12:59.399 --> 01:13:01.159
I mean. And I walked with a little bit of

1198
01:13:01.159 --> 01:13:04.199
a hobble, so you know, I wanted to make sure

1199
01:13:04.239 --> 01:13:08.279
I had enough firepower on me as possible. So it's quiet,

1200
01:13:08.720 --> 01:13:11.880
and so you know, it's go time. So he has

1201
01:13:11.920 --> 01:13:14.399
my pocket knife. He has to cut that bow line

1202
01:13:14.720 --> 01:13:17.560
and jump in the skip and started. That was our

1203
01:13:17.600 --> 01:13:20.640
game plan. So we kicked the door open and boom,

1204
01:13:20.680 --> 01:13:23.000
We're at the edge of the bank in no time.

1205
01:13:23.560 --> 01:13:27.039
My cousin immediately jumps down. I stopped paying attention to

1206
01:13:27.119 --> 01:13:30.439
him because my uncle's behind me, and it's a six

1207
01:13:30.560 --> 01:13:34.279
seven foot drop on a cut bank, so the dew

1208
01:13:34.359 --> 01:13:36.199
on the grass and everything it was a little slippery.

1209
01:13:36.239 --> 01:13:38.600
So I had to help him get his footing so

1210
01:13:38.640 --> 01:13:40.600
he could make it down the bank safely and not

1211
01:13:40.720 --> 01:13:44.960
just top over. And the way I positioned myself with

1212
01:13:45.079 --> 01:13:47.159
his shotgun on my back, the chatku was kind of

1213
01:13:47.159 --> 01:13:49.800
pushing me forward the way I knelt down, so I

1214
01:13:50.119 --> 01:13:53.760
scooped back about four to six inches maybe before I

1215
01:13:53.800 --> 01:13:57.760
stood up to wait, you know, wait for my turn

1216
01:13:57.840 --> 01:14:00.319
to get down this bank. And as I get up

1217
01:14:00.359 --> 01:14:03.640
to full standing height, this rock a little bigger than

1218
01:14:03.640 --> 01:14:07.880
a basketball whizz by the front of my face. Had

1219
01:14:07.880 --> 01:14:09.680
I not scoot it back and I just stood up

1220
01:14:09.720 --> 01:14:13.000
from where I was, we wouldn't have this conversation. Man.

1221
01:14:14.119 --> 01:14:16.079
As soon as that rock whizz by in front of

1222
01:14:16.119 --> 01:14:19.840
my face, everything went slow motion and my eyes locked

1223
01:14:19.880 --> 01:14:25.079
on that rock, and it impacted about part of the

1224
01:14:25.159 --> 01:14:28.560
river that was about roughly three feet deep fast moving water.

1225
01:14:29.319 --> 01:14:33.000
It impacted so hard that rock hit the bottom and

1226
01:14:33.159 --> 01:14:36.439
sounded like a shotgun blast before the water could close

1227
01:14:36.479 --> 01:14:40.880
over it, I mean pow. And as soon as I

1228
01:14:40.960 --> 01:14:43.560
heard that sound, it was like those ear muffs came

1229
01:14:43.600 --> 01:14:48.399
off and I could hear clearly again. Everything was still

1230
01:14:48.479 --> 01:14:51.680
quasi slow motion, but I turned the direction the rock

1231
01:14:51.760 --> 01:14:55.520
came from. Now this thing was coming out of the

1232
01:14:55.560 --> 01:14:57.079
treeline fifty yards away.

1233
01:14:58.399 --> 01:15:00.880
We'll be back with more big fists side after these

1234
01:15:00.880 --> 01:15:04.800
words from our sponsors.

1235
01:15:05.880 --> 01:15:10.039
That rock had to have been in flight before I

1236
01:15:10.079 --> 01:15:13.760
started standing up, you know what I mean, It was

1237
01:15:13.800 --> 01:15:22.000
like anyway chios. I turned and that big black silhouette

1238
01:15:22.600 --> 01:15:26.199
was coming out of the tree line. It still wasn't

1239
01:15:26.199 --> 01:15:29.520
giving anything back. I could tell it was moving, but

1240
01:15:29.640 --> 01:15:32.239
it was like it was gliding. And immediately with that

1241
01:15:32.319 --> 01:15:37.119
thirty odd six, I put three rounds center mass, bam, bam, bam,

1242
01:15:37.159 --> 01:15:42.039
and I heard the bullets impact this thing. Now, this

1243
01:15:42.119 --> 01:15:46.680
thirty odd six is a powerful rifle. Anyone who's hunted knows.

1244
01:15:47.279 --> 01:15:50.319
We used the same rifle to kill walrus, bear, moose.

1245
01:15:50.840 --> 01:15:53.760
Everything we've come up against with that rifle, we've killed it.

1246
01:15:54.960 --> 01:15:57.520
This thing took all three rounds and all it It

1247
01:15:57.560 --> 01:16:00.760
didn't flinch or nothing. It just stopped moving forward. It

1248
01:16:00.920 --> 01:16:06.039
just stopped. It didn't buckle. Nothing well. Once I put

1249
01:16:06.039 --> 01:16:08.319
those three rounds on it, and they didn't do anything.

1250
01:16:09.079 --> 01:16:12.399
I was getting this tunnel vision going on from the shot.

1251
01:16:12.960 --> 01:16:17.880
Everything was kind of closing in and I turned around.

1252
01:16:18.000 --> 01:16:22.319
I jumped down because at this point, my uncle's making

1253
01:16:22.319 --> 01:16:26.600
his way into the skiff and the bow line wasn't cut.

1254
01:16:26.920 --> 01:16:28.960
My cousin got the motor running, but he didn't cut

1255
01:16:29.000 --> 01:16:30.720
the battle line. So I'm yelling at him, throw me

1256
01:16:30.720 --> 01:16:32.880
the knife, throw me the knife. He does a knife.

1257
01:16:33.479 --> 01:16:35.399
I set the thirty out six into the bow of

1258
01:16:35.439 --> 01:16:37.880
the skiff and I'm cutting that line, and I'm telling

1259
01:16:37.960 --> 01:16:40.439
him idle down, idle down, because he had it the

1260
01:16:40.479 --> 01:16:44.239
idol too high to shift gears right, and of course

1261
01:16:44.279 --> 01:16:46.479
it was cold and he could only do so much.

1262
01:16:46.520 --> 01:16:48.640
But you know, it was a tense moment, and we're

1263
01:16:48.680 --> 01:16:51.640
kind of yelling back and forth. And as I cut

1264
01:16:51.640 --> 01:16:53.520
the bottle line and I'm putting the chin and my

1265
01:16:53.680 --> 01:16:55.680
uncle's kind of got his butt on the edge and

1266
01:16:55.720 --> 01:16:58.520
he's kind of turning the shim in. I shoved him in.

1267
01:16:59.479 --> 01:17:01.960
I felt later because it bruised his wrists pretty bad.

1268
01:17:02.399 --> 01:17:07.680
But I shoved him in. And when I jumped down,

1269
01:17:07.720 --> 01:17:10.359
I noticed that my cousin hads up my shotgun right

1270
01:17:10.399 --> 01:17:12.840
there on the beach, on this little small landing where

1271
01:17:12.840 --> 01:17:16.279
we had the skid perch, and so in my mind's eye,

1272
01:17:16.279 --> 01:17:18.479
I was gonna grab my shotgun. I don't know why.

1273
01:17:18.600 --> 01:17:21.600
I never got an answer why he dropped my shotgun

1274
01:17:21.600 --> 01:17:24.319
on the little beach there, but anyway, so I shove

1275
01:17:24.359 --> 01:17:27.359
my uncle in. I'm thinking I'm gonna grab that shotgun,

1276
01:17:28.439 --> 01:17:30.560
and the chain was hanging a little more, so I

1277
01:17:30.960 --> 01:17:33.800
dumped the rest of the chain in there. And as

1278
01:17:33.880 --> 01:17:36.439
I'm looking at him, and I'm still yelling at him,

1279
01:17:36.479 --> 01:17:40.000
the idol down and the idol's down and it shifts right,

1280
01:17:40.880 --> 01:17:43.239
and all of a sudden, his eyes get real big.

1281
01:17:43.399 --> 01:17:46.479
My uncle. When he landed, he turned around and was

1282
01:17:46.479 --> 01:17:49.319
looking back towards the direction of the bank, and they're

1283
01:17:49.359 --> 01:17:52.560
both looking over my shoulder up at the bank. And

1284
01:17:52.680 --> 01:17:55.399
I turned around and as I'm looking up, I saw

1285
01:17:56.159 --> 01:17:59.399
just up to about mid shin before I realized this

1286
01:17:59.439 --> 01:18:02.920
thing is over me. And I pushed off from the

1287
01:18:02.960 --> 01:18:06.800
shore and he kicks it in gear out of reverse

1288
01:18:06.880 --> 01:18:09.399
and we start getting up on step to get out

1289
01:18:09.399 --> 01:18:13.079
of there. And when we were leaving, he was kind

1290
01:18:13.079 --> 01:18:15.359
of swaying the skits back and forth, and I thought

1291
01:18:15.359 --> 01:18:18.159
he was just trying to get up on steps. I

1292
01:18:18.159 --> 01:18:20.159
thought he was trying to, you know, break the friction

1293
01:18:20.239 --> 01:18:22.239
of the water to get up on step, you know

1294
01:18:22.279 --> 01:18:25.399
a little sooner. But what I found out many years

1295
01:18:25.479 --> 01:18:28.159
later was he wasn't doing it to get on step.

1296
01:18:28.239 --> 01:18:30.319
He was doing it to avoid the rocks that they

1297
01:18:30.359 --> 01:18:34.039
were throwing at the outboard. One rock hit the transom

1298
01:18:34.119 --> 01:18:38.439
so hard they left a partial puncture hole in the transoms,

1299
01:18:39.119 --> 01:18:42.800
and you know, we skipped on out of there, and

1300
01:18:44.239 --> 01:18:49.039
it wasn't rush. I was in the bow and I'm

1301
01:18:49.079 --> 01:18:52.319
still having this bit of everything closing in kind of

1302
01:18:52.319 --> 01:18:55.239
tunnel vision, and I'm looking for the two hundred and

1303
01:18:55.239 --> 01:18:59.039
twenty grain bullets for the thirty odd six that we

1304
01:18:59.039 --> 01:19:02.239
we typically would use for bear and what was in

1305
01:19:02.279 --> 01:19:06.239
it was one hundred and eighty grain coloc softkips, you know,

1306
01:19:06.319 --> 01:19:10.439
the deadliest mushroom in the woods up until that point anyway.

1307
01:19:11.319 --> 01:19:15.479
And we I mean that's basically where the encounter ended.

1308
01:19:16.479 --> 01:19:20.079
When we got down to where the nu Yak Cook

1309
01:19:20.359 --> 01:19:24.920
and the confluence of the Luciagak River met, we finally

1310
01:19:26.119 --> 01:19:31.560
took a minute to take a breather and immediately, I

1311
01:19:31.640 --> 01:19:35.079
felt like I weighed a thousand pounds man from up

1312
01:19:35.119 --> 01:19:40.840
all night with the tense muscles and everything, and finally

1313
01:19:40.840 --> 01:19:45.680
feeling like we got a weigh, I felt like I

1314
01:19:45.720 --> 01:19:51.600
weighed a thousand pounds. And that trip ruined our relationship

1315
01:19:51.760 --> 01:19:56.840
because when we got back to the village, anyone with

1316
01:19:56.960 --> 01:20:00.840
a pair of ears, I was telling them, hey, you know,

1317
01:20:01.119 --> 01:20:03.479
they tried to get us. You know, my uncle cousin

1318
01:20:03.520 --> 01:20:06.479
were there. You know. I was telling anyone who would listen.

1319
01:20:07.079 --> 01:20:10.600
And my uncle was in a position at that time

1320
01:20:12.840 --> 01:20:18.239
where he didn't want it made public because of this

1321
01:20:18.520 --> 01:20:22.600
particular position he had, and I pushed the issue I

1322
01:20:23.720 --> 01:20:27.760
in and burtinly kind of did no good to our

1323
01:20:27.800 --> 01:20:32.000
relationship either by pressing it so hard, but because of

1324
01:20:32.039 --> 01:20:36.159
what had happened, I wanted to tell everybody watch out

1325
01:20:36.399 --> 01:20:38.439
that they tried to get us, you know what I mean,

1326
01:20:39.239 --> 01:20:41.760
And they were more wanting to just keep it hush

1327
01:20:41.840 --> 01:20:45.319
hush and leave it where it was. And because of

1328
01:20:45.319 --> 01:20:48.039
what we went through, I just I couldn't not tell

1329
01:20:48.119 --> 01:20:53.680
somebody and warn them, you know, and it ruined our relationship.

1330
01:20:53.920 --> 01:20:57.039
I was never able to fully make amends with my uncle.

1331
01:20:57.159 --> 01:21:01.960
He since passed and my cousin was with us. I

1332
01:21:02.000 --> 01:21:07.479
talked to him once and I went over the encounter

1333
01:21:07.560 --> 01:21:09.159
of what I remember of it with him, and I

1334
01:21:09.159 --> 01:21:11.359
asked him, am I leaving anything out? And that's when

1335
01:21:11.399 --> 01:21:14.760
he told me that they're throwing rocks at the outpoord.

1336
01:21:15.039 --> 01:21:21.560
But and out of seventeen years we had one fifteen

1337
01:21:21.600 --> 01:21:29.399
minute conversation since that incident. That is.

1338
01:21:31.800 --> 01:21:37.600
That's incredible, Fred, And thank you for putting yourself back.

1339
01:21:37.680 --> 01:21:43.159
And that must is that hard to retell that. I mean, that's.

1340
01:21:44.199 --> 01:21:46.279
I can't imagine you're easier than others.

1341
01:21:46.359 --> 01:21:49.880
Yeah, there's sometimes it doesn't bother me at all, and

1342
01:21:50.000 --> 01:21:52.760
other times I get caught me in motion of it

1343
01:21:52.880 --> 01:21:57.600
because like it ruined my relationship with my family.

1344
01:21:57.720 --> 01:21:59.800
We were thick as thieves, man, We were three p

1345
01:22:00.199 --> 01:22:02.960
in the pod. Us three were always the ones on

1346
01:22:03.039 --> 01:22:07.399
an adventure. Like always it was us three were the

1347
01:22:07.479 --> 01:22:10.880
main ones that if there was an adventure to be had,

1348
01:22:11.199 --> 01:22:15.800
we were on it. And since so six, that all

1349
01:22:15.840 --> 01:22:18.239
went away.

1350
01:22:19.319 --> 01:22:24.000
Do you do you blame those creatures for for having

1351
01:22:24.560 --> 01:22:26.800
a relationship with your relatives ruined?

1352
01:22:31.079 --> 01:22:37.239
I can't. I can't blame them. I blame the high

1353
01:22:37.239 --> 01:22:49.960
stress and their unwillingness to like collaborate or or basically

1354
01:22:50.560 --> 01:22:52.720
back me up, you know what I mean, because I

1355
01:22:52.760 --> 01:22:55.680
felt in that moment it was going on, I was

1356
01:22:55.840 --> 01:22:58.600
by myself because my cousin was under the table, my

1357
01:22:58.720 --> 01:23:02.199
uncle wasn't responsive. So it was just a further continuation

1358
01:23:02.279 --> 01:23:05.520
of that. When we got back to the village, you know,

1359
01:23:05.720 --> 01:23:09.079
I was told I was a crazy drunk. I was told, Oh,

1360
01:23:09.159 --> 01:23:12.520
You're just making up for attention, Like why why would

1361
01:23:12.560 --> 01:23:15.079
I make that up for some attention? You know? I mean?

1362
01:23:15.840 --> 01:23:18.279
I gained nothing from that, you know what I mean?

1363
01:23:18.359 --> 01:23:22.479
There there, I gained nothing. I lost so much. I

1364
01:23:22.479 --> 01:23:24.000
have gained nothing from it.

1365
01:23:25.800 --> 01:23:28.960
Have you ever been back to that area or you

1366
01:23:29.119 --> 01:23:30.000
never go back there?

1367
01:23:31.199 --> 01:23:34.000
Uh? No, I want to go back. I want to

1368
01:23:34.039 --> 01:23:37.720
film a documentary. And the documentary I want to do

1369
01:23:38.159 --> 01:23:42.279
is going to be a cultural thing with just Native

1370
01:23:42.319 --> 01:23:46.319
peoples on how our whole history from the past kind

1371
01:23:46.319 --> 01:23:49.479
of mats up with the present, that type of thing.

1372
01:23:50.479 --> 01:23:54.399
I haven't fully worked it out, but that place is

1373
01:23:54.840 --> 01:23:59.079
going to be the pinnacle of that documentary, you know

1374
01:23:59.119 --> 01:24:03.520
what I mean That it's gonna revolve around that spot.

1375
01:24:04.880 --> 01:24:10.359
But logistically it is a nightmare to get there. It

1376
01:24:10.399 --> 01:24:13.239
was expensive for us, and we lived in Dillingham, you

1377
01:24:13.239 --> 01:24:15.920
know what I mean. So for me to go from

1378
01:24:15.960 --> 01:24:19.159
where I'm at now back to Dillingham for the same price,

1379
01:24:19.239 --> 01:24:22.359
I could go to Hawaii twice.

1380
01:24:22.640 --> 01:24:25.399
Wow, that's wild man.

1381
01:24:25.560 --> 01:24:30.039
Yeah, so it's yeah, it's a logistical, logistical thing. And

1382
01:24:30.079 --> 01:24:33.680
I sure ain't gone by myself. I need to bring

1383
01:24:33.960 --> 01:24:38.840
some qualified people. Not that my relatives weren't. They were

1384
01:24:38.840 --> 01:24:42.159
the most qualified I could think of, even to this

1385
01:24:42.319 --> 01:24:46.319
day that I know personally. But everyone's different. You know.

1386
01:24:48.239 --> 01:24:50.800
I wasn't a hero in that moment when I made

1387
01:24:50.800 --> 01:24:54.199
eye contact with that thing. Man, I wasn't going, oh,

1388
01:24:54.279 --> 01:24:56.760
I'm going to shoot now, I'm going to protect us. No,

1389
01:24:57.000 --> 01:25:00.399
it was get off me, get you know, off me.

1390
01:25:01.439 --> 01:25:04.560
It was. It was nothing heroic. It was self preservation

1391
01:25:05.720 --> 01:25:07.880
in that moment when I started shooting through the wall.

1392
01:25:07.960 --> 01:25:13.039
Initially my uncle and cousin didn't even exist in my mind.

1393
01:25:13.079 --> 01:25:15.880
In that moment. It was such a shock to my system.

1394
01:25:15.960 --> 01:25:20.479
It was like every fiber of my being wanted to flee,

1395
01:25:20.720 --> 01:25:23.399
but it was stuck in my skin. It was like

1396
01:25:23.439 --> 01:25:26.479
an electrical charge, like a just a shock.

1397
01:25:28.720 --> 01:25:35.840
Hmm. It's it's probably one of the most intense. I

1398
01:25:35.840 --> 01:25:38.600
would say it is the most intense encounter I've ever heard.

1399
01:25:38.880 --> 01:25:43.560
Fred that that is incredible that you guys actually survived

1400
01:25:43.560 --> 01:25:47.760
that and thankfully you dead man.

1401
01:25:48.279 --> 01:25:50.760
Well, yeah, and that's another reason I had the channel.

1402
01:25:50.880 --> 01:25:54.880
I also have a website subarticlastusasquatch dot com. I have

1403
01:25:55.000 --> 01:25:58.720
an interactive map of Alaska and you can zoom in

1404
01:25:58.800 --> 01:26:02.159
on an area and there's marker pins and if you

1405
01:26:02.399 --> 01:26:06.079
touch the marker pin, it's are you click on it.

1406
01:26:06.079 --> 01:26:08.960
It's embedded with my YouTube channel, so it'll bring up

1407
01:26:09.000 --> 01:26:13.319
the encounter video from that area. So, fellow Alaskans, are

1408
01:26:13.359 --> 01:26:16.840
people traveling here, can let's say they're going to Keynak Peninsula.

1409
01:26:16.840 --> 01:26:18.720
They're going to be by ski like lake. Let's say,

1410
01:26:18.800 --> 01:26:21.479
just as an example, they could zoom in on the map,

1411
01:26:21.600 --> 01:26:24.279
see the ska like lake, touch a pin and they

1412
01:26:24.319 --> 01:26:27.159
could hear and encounter someone that had from that area.

1413
01:26:27.760 --> 01:26:30.399
Not to scare them away, but to make them aware.

1414
01:26:31.079 --> 01:26:33.359
It's like bere aware signs, be aware of the bear,

1415
01:26:33.560 --> 01:26:38.039
you know. I it frustrates me that so many people

1416
01:26:38.199 --> 01:26:42.720
have these encounters, but yet it's treated like, oh, they're

1417
01:26:42.760 --> 01:26:46.840
making up a story for attention. Man, No one needs

1418
01:26:46.960 --> 01:26:49.199
this kind of attention, you know what I mean. It's

1419
01:26:49.319 --> 01:26:52.680
not it's not a badge of honor. But what drives

1420
01:26:52.720 --> 01:26:55.479
me is no one asked for it. No one asked

1421
01:26:55.479 --> 01:26:57.800
to be accosted by this big thing out in the

1422
01:26:57.800 --> 01:26:59.760
woods when they're doing their day to day. No one

1423
01:26:59.800 --> 01:27:02.560
asked for that, you know what I mean. And so

1424
01:27:04.079 --> 01:27:06.960
I'm biased though. I don't trust him for nothing. And

1425
01:27:07.239 --> 01:27:12.119
when I hear what I consider fanciful, happy go lucky

1426
01:27:12.159 --> 01:27:16.520
stories about my forest friend, I ain't my friend. I

1427
01:27:19.239 --> 01:27:24.079
could never be comfortable with one near me ever again.

1428
01:27:24.319 --> 01:27:27.640
And I can't honestly say that if one wasn't near me,

1429
01:27:27.800 --> 01:27:31.439
I wouldn't just open fire on it. But that's my

1430
01:27:31.600 --> 01:27:37.079
own personal bias, and so I leave that out of

1431
01:27:37.640 --> 01:27:40.199
the encounters I share from people. I just share what

1432
01:27:40.239 --> 01:27:42.600
they shared with me. I don't put a spin on it.

1433
01:27:42.880 --> 01:27:45.720
I just I give what I was given, you know

1434
01:27:45.720 --> 01:27:48.920
what I mean, And I leave my personal bias out

1435
01:27:48.960 --> 01:27:52.399
of it. There is a guy Dan. He shared an

1436
01:27:52.439 --> 01:27:55.880
experience where he was rescued by a female near the

1437
01:27:55.880 --> 01:28:00.479
Golcana river back when he was ten and him I

1438
01:28:00.479 --> 01:28:02.520
was like, man, that's pretty cool. I haven't heard anything

1439
01:28:02.680 --> 01:28:06.079
positive so you know, how did you feel? And his

1440
01:28:06.239 --> 01:28:09.159
words were, I felt like they were trying to get

1441
01:28:09.319 --> 01:28:12.039
rid of me because of the search and rescue efforts.

1442
01:28:12.079 --> 01:28:15.760
They had helicopters, small planes, you know, the troopers out

1443
01:28:15.760 --> 01:28:19.359
in mass looking for it. And he said he didn't

1444
01:28:19.399 --> 01:28:22.039
feel good about it. He felt like they're getting rid

1445
01:28:22.039 --> 01:28:25.159
of the nuisance versus really being helpful.

1446
01:28:28.039 --> 01:28:33.600
Wow. This has been an incredible conversation. Fred. As we

1447
01:28:34.439 --> 01:28:38.720
start to head towards the end of our time together,

1448
01:28:38.880 --> 01:28:46.399
do you have any words for people that might be thinking,

1449
01:28:46.439 --> 01:28:48.640
you know, I'm going to go out I'm going to

1450
01:28:50.319 --> 01:28:53.119
find a big foot this weekend. Do you have any

1451
01:28:54.479 --> 01:28:59.439
they words of advice of how they should maybe change

1452
01:28:59.439 --> 01:29:00.479
their thinking A lot.

1453
01:29:00.399 --> 01:29:04.439
That I would say, be careful what you wish for,

1454
01:29:07.239 --> 01:29:11.439
and it's not going to be what you think. It's not.

1455
01:29:11.840 --> 01:29:17.319
It's not going to be harmonious whatever maybe going through

1456
01:29:17.359 --> 01:29:22.239
your mind. Don't don't go in naive. They're they're not

1457
01:29:22.359 --> 01:29:25.680
our in my now, this is my opinion, they're not

1458
01:29:25.760 --> 01:29:30.399
our forest friends. Ah, And I can only speak for

1459
01:29:30.479 --> 01:29:33.000
Alaska because I know it's different down in the States.

1460
01:29:33.039 --> 01:29:37.039
There's a different level of aggression. Just be careful what

1461
01:29:37.079 --> 01:29:41.760
you wish for you. You don't want what you think

1462
01:29:41.800 --> 01:29:47.560
you do. You really don't. There's there's a level of

1463
01:29:52.720 --> 01:30:00.960
understanding that you're lacking, and you don't want that. Nothing

1464
01:30:01.000 --> 01:30:03.960
good is going to come of it. There's so many

1465
01:30:04.000 --> 01:30:06.760
people that have had encounters who had a camera in

1466
01:30:06.800 --> 01:30:10.279
their hand and did nothing with the camera. They were

1467
01:30:10.279 --> 01:30:13.680
so in shot. If you have a weak heart, be

1468
01:30:13.840 --> 01:30:19.199
prepared because you may need a defense. It's not what

1469
01:30:19.359 --> 01:30:21.279
you think it's going to be. It's not going to

1470
01:30:21.319 --> 01:30:28.560
be that exciting, oh yay moment. No, it is life altering, terrifying.

1471
01:30:31.079 --> 01:30:37.680
Some wise words from someone who has had multiple encounters themselves. Fred,

1472
01:30:37.840 --> 01:30:41.239
thank you so much for coming on and sharing what

1473
01:30:41.319 --> 01:30:43.960
has happened to you. Do you mind taking a few

1474
01:30:43.960 --> 01:30:47.399
more minutes and sharing with people how they can keep

1475
01:30:47.479 --> 01:30:52.239
up to date with Subarctic Alaska sasquatch and what's the

1476
01:30:52.279 --> 01:30:53.039
best way to do that?

1477
01:30:55.359 --> 01:30:59.319
Well, yeah, I mean I have a couple of email accounts.

1478
01:30:59.359 --> 01:31:02.479
They could easily be found in the description of the channel.

1479
01:31:03.039 --> 01:31:06.399
I leave my phone number, and you know, people can

1480
01:31:06.439 --> 01:31:10.840
contact me that way during daylight hours Alaska, if you're

1481
01:31:10.880 --> 01:31:14.279
on the East coast, I'm four hours behind, so you

1482
01:31:14.319 --> 01:31:16.720
know wherever you may be. Just keep that in mind.

1483
01:31:17.960 --> 01:31:20.920
I've gotten calls at you know, three in the morning

1484
01:31:21.079 --> 01:31:23.640
and at seven am someone's having their coffee and they're

1485
01:31:23.640 --> 01:31:25.720
waking me up, you know, just to ask some questions.

1486
01:31:25.720 --> 01:31:28.279
I don't mind the questions. I put my number out

1487
01:31:28.279 --> 01:31:32.239
there for a reason. But I'm easy to find, man,

1488
01:31:32.520 --> 01:31:36.800
I'm really not hard. You know, Alaskan Hairyman Project at

1489
01:31:36.800 --> 01:31:40.600
gmail dot com or No. Comp nine O seven at

1490
01:31:40.600 --> 01:31:44.239
gmail dot com, or you know my phone number which

1491
01:31:44.279 --> 01:31:47.680
is listed in the opening of my most current videos.

1492
01:31:47.680 --> 01:31:53.039
So I'm easy to find, and I upload content when

1493
01:31:53.079 --> 01:31:56.319
I can. I live in Alaska, so I'm in winter

1494
01:31:56.439 --> 01:32:00.239
prep mode and you know, I got background stuff going on.

1495
01:32:00.520 --> 01:32:04.720
But I'm very easy to find. You know, if an

1496
01:32:04.760 --> 01:32:08.000
eighty something, your old woman in New Orleans can find me,

1497
01:32:08.319 --> 01:32:09.199
then anyone can.

1498
01:32:10.520 --> 01:32:14.359
There you go, man, it is incredible the type of

1499
01:32:14.399 --> 01:32:19.920
people that find people like us. I totally agree with that,

1500
01:32:19.960 --> 01:32:23.359
but we appreciate it. And a Fred thank you so

1501
01:32:23.439 --> 01:32:25.520
much for coming on. I hope to be talking to

1502
01:32:25.560 --> 01:32:28.840
you again sometime in the future. But keep doing what

1503
01:32:28.880 --> 01:32:29.239
you're doing.

1504
01:32:29.279 --> 01:32:33.520
Man. Yeah, I appreciate it, man, and thanks for having

1505
01:32:33.520 --> 01:32:33.680
me on.

1506
01:32:33.960 --> 01:32:36.680
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1507
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1510
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1512
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1513
01:32:57.680 --> 01:33:00.560
had a Bigfoot encounter related to the following, or know

1514
01:33:00.720 --> 01:33:04.840
someone who has, please reach out to me at Bigfoot

1515
01:33:04.840 --> 01:33:08.319
Society at gmail dot com or pass on my email.

1516
01:33:09.079 --> 01:33:12.000
Here's the list. If you've had any encounters in Oregon,

1517
01:33:12.199 --> 01:33:14.560
which I'm sure there's probably a few of you out there,

1518
01:33:14.720 --> 01:33:17.600
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1519
01:33:17.640 --> 01:33:21.399
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1520
01:33:21.439 --> 01:33:25.680
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1521
01:33:25.760 --> 01:33:28.560
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1522
01:33:28.640 --> 01:33:32.159
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1523
01:33:32.159 --> 01:33:35.359
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1524
01:33:35.359 --> 01:33:38.560
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1525
01:33:39.760 --> 01:33:41.479
and again, thanks for listening.

1526
01:34:31.319 --> 01:34:32.279
Her and I can get on here.

1527
01:34:32.319 --> 01:34:35.000
We can tell our stories. Maybe there's somebody else out

1528
01:34:35.039 --> 01:34:36.319
there listening that's.

1529
01:34:36.159 --> 01:34:37.800
Too afraid to tell their story.

1530
01:34:38.239 --> 01:34:39.039
Maybe this will.

1531
01:34:38.920 --> 01:34:41.720
Give them the courage to come out. And I feel

1532
01:34:41.800 --> 01:34:44.960
so bad about it. Who cares what anybody thinks. I

1533
01:34:45.039 --> 01:34:48.199
know what I saw, I know what's out there. That's

1534
01:34:48.239 --> 01:34:49.000
all I care about.

1535
01:35:04.920 --> 01:35:08.960
Please let people know, Please let them know. If you

1536
01:35:09.159 --> 01:35:09.880
ever see.

1537
01:35:09.720 --> 01:35:12.239
One of these things, you need to tell.

1538
01:35:12.720 --> 01:35:15.520
Because if you don't, then shame on you. You have

1539
01:35:16.159 --> 01:35:28.199
shame on you.