Female Bigfoot Watched His Family for a Year | Washington | Archives

0:00 You're listening to Bigfla Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us. Hey, guys, we've got a special archive episode for you today, but I want to clear up a few things before we get into it because current listeners might be confused.

0:40 So Daniel is also Dano and has his own podcast. Now. Besides being involved with the Mysteries Unknown podcasts, he's also involved with the encryptid podcast. I would recommend that you subscribe to both of these channels on YouTube as they're fantastic. So, as always, link will be in the show notes and let's get on with this great archive episode. All right, Big for Society, You've got the privilege of talking to Daniel today. Daniel's one of the co hosts of the great YouTube channel Mysteries Unknown podcast. I've been wanting to talk to him for quite a while. That is one of the shows that I like to watch. One of the I would say up and coming shows. There's that one and then not so Perfect Bigfoot show is great, but man, I love watching them when I've got the time.

1:31 But Daniel, it's a pleasure chatting to you today, and thanks for coming on the show. Hey, Jeremi, it's my pleasure. Thank you so much for having me on. Absolutely How's how's the weather up there where you're at, Man. Well, it's probably the same as yours. I'm a little north of you. I'm up here in Minnesota, and so we're kind of going through like a cool wave and then a heat wave and looks like we're going to get some rain tomorrow. So yeah, probably about the same as you. Yeah, Yeah, that's that's true. We're both Midwest dude, So yeah, our stuff's pretty similar. But man, Daniel, we've talked a little bit off air, and it sounds like you've had some really interesting things happen on the show. So I would love to go ahead and just toss it right over to you, and you're welcome to share what you've experienced over the years.

2:21 Sure. Well, you know, when I was twelve years old, I lived in Graham, Washington. That's where I'm originally from. I was born in Belgium. My dad was stationed over there, got back to Washington State and that's pretty much where I grew up. And we lived in Graham, Washington at the time of the sighting. Like I said, I was like twelve years old. This is ninety excuse me, eighty four. It's about eighty four timeframe. And when we my brother and I, when we first moved back with our dad, he was living in like an adult like RB Park trailer park, and that was more elderly retired people, and you know, there was really no one our age is supposed to be there. My dad was able to talk with the owners and they were okay with it. We made ourselves kind of useful, you know, we'd go around help out, you know, help people take their garbage out and stuff like that. We never caused any trouble. My dad knew and realized that this was not a place for us to grow up. So while we were spending I want to say, a spring break in Tacoma with my with my aunt. My dad had already in the works buying like five acres of land. And this land was not very far, you know. It was up up past the top of Graham Hill. I think it's Meridian.

3:42 I think that's the name of the major street. I can't really remember. But when we came back, my dad just drove right past this trailer park. You know, this this this RV park, and I what are you doing? It's like I show you a boy something, and you know, he goes down a ways and makes her right and goes down away as another road, takes another right, and goes down away to another road and turns onto this long gravel road. Now, at the time, I thought the gravel road was probably like five miles long, but it was in actuality is maybe a mile and a half, maybe two miles long. But this road was it was kind of like it had dips in it and little rises and little straightaways, and then another dip and then another rise, you know. And so he goes down here and he pulls into this end of this property and lo and behold, there's the I'm gonna say camper. It was a fifth wheel, so it was pretty much a camper.

4:33 There was the camper, and my dad had set this camper on this land. They had already cleared some of it. He'd built a really nice deck pretty much around from the back part of it around to the front part of it, just a huge deck, built a shed out there, and had fastened down this our camper. You know, he put the you know, had it put up on blocks and had all the anchor ties down and stuff like that, and you know, we were like, holy bunckets. You know this it's five acres of woods, pine and and some other indigenous trees. And I was like this, this is awesome. So we spend you know, that first weekend or whatever, just running around in the woods having a good time, never think anything of it. And fast forward we were coming back another time, me, my dad, my brother my dad was my dad of course, was driving my little brothers in this backseat sleeping and we're coming home and it's probably one or two in the morning, i want to say, more towards the one o'clock timeframe. And as we turn off onto the road, we go, we start going down. We go down this little dip. We come back up this rise, and we came on this ride and we hit this little straightaway and I noticed the some eyeshine off to the right side of this gravel road that we were on, and it was pretty far down, but it was still it caught my attention, and then I just said, Dad, I said, there's something up there on the road. I said, you might watch her in your bright's on. And he's like, no, no, no, you'll

6:04 see us coming, you know, it'll, it'll, it'll, it'll get off the road, you know. And so we go back down this dip and back up this rise, and we come back up this rise. Our lights, you know, I see this light, this this this side shine again. It's like a dark amber, reddish hue. And I'm like, Dad, there's something right there on the side of the road. We go down this dip and come back up, it's going to be right there. So as we were to call him down the dip and come back up the rise, my dad turned his brights on and he also had these new fog lights on that you know, kind of like today's driving lights. They really widen your your scope of vision, right, and all of a sudden, our lights hit it, and there she was. And when I say she one hundred percent a female, she stood up, and Jeremiah, I honestly, I don't for the life of me, I thought she was never gonna stop standing up. She was massive.

7:07 She turned at the waist, and that's how I knew that she was a female. Saw her breast, saw her face. She turned almost way she was standing up. She did like a one eighty. So she just kind of turned her complete body around. And it wasn't like super fast, like she just whipped around, but she kind of turned, looked at us, and then turned and then took like two steps maybe three steps, off the side of the road and was gone into the woods right. And I'm I'm I'm just I'm surprised. I'm scared. And as we're driving by, you know, I go, Dad, Dad, Dad, He's like he just didn't say a word. He just kept driving.

7:48 He didn't speed up, he didn't sow down, he just kept going like he didn't see it. And as I looked to my to my right, I saw her like squatting into the woods, and there was enough light from the way the angle the lights shined out that I saw her blink her eyes twice. And so my dad pulled into our property and the car was not even at a complete stop. I had already had the door opening. I had my hand in my pocket taking my key out, and I as soon as my dad the car stopped, I was out of the car, running up the steps and unlocking the door door camper and running in and I jumped into my dad's bed. Now, when you walked into the camper a fifth will you know, you have this this hitch that you hitch up to a truck.

8:36 So it's kind of got like this little loft area. And that's where my brother and I slept. And if you're looking head on at the fifth wheell at the camper. I slept on the right hand side. My brother slept on the left kind of. My brother slept on the side that was where the deck was built closest to that, and I slept where the shed and the woods and everything were. And so I jumped in. My dad had a hide to bed. It was a queen's eye hide. I jumped into that bed and I was like, Dad, you know. My dad comes in and he puts my brother up up into his bed, and I'm like Dad, what was that? What was that? He's like, you know, you know what that was? I go, Dad, that was that was a big foot. He's like, don't worry about it, no, you know, hey, everything's to be fine. And while he's talked to at me, trying to calm me down, he's going into the cupboards and he's pulling you know, fruit out.

9:23 He's you know, o those types of stuff. He goes into the refriger and he pulls out you know, like grapes and some vegetables and things like that. And when my dad had built the deck, he put this this really tall pole on one corner of the deck with like a metal plate welded onto it because he wanted to put like a bird feeder up there. So my dad loved watching birds. He would take pictures of him and stuff. And my dad goes, he has everything, you know, gathered up. He leaves the camper, goes outside. I hear him shut the car door because I didn't shut my car door. I hear him open up the shed. He comes back around.

10:04 He has a he has a ladder with him and like this tube of grease or something. Right. I really wasn't sure what it was at first he goes and I see him put the ladder up, and then he comes in, grabs all the food, climbs up the ladder a couple of times, puts the food up there, and then what he does is it takes this rag and he squirts this grease or whatever on the on this rag, and he as high as he could possibly get, he just slowly puts grease all over this pole. And I'm watching my dad. I'm like, Dad, what are you doing that for. He's like, that's to stop anything from getting the getting that food. And I go like, what, like, like what he is like? Raccoons? I go, oh, okay, okay, raccoons.

10:50 And for the three brief second that made sense to me, you know, for a second, it made me stop thinking about what we had just seen maybe fifteen twenty minutes earlier. So we're laying in bed, and as I'm laying there, my dad was a smoker, and he never smoked in the camper, but he's outside and I could hear him talking, and so I got nosy and I kind of put my ear up to the door a little bit, and I heard him say something to the fact like, you know, we saw you you know you saw us. You know, these are just my boys. I just want to make a home. Please don't scare them, don't hurt them. We don't want to, We don't want any harm. We don't mean any harm. Because when my dad was clearing all the land, you know, he didn't clear everything. He cleared enough space to where he could plant a garden and build a home, because that's what he was doing was he was cutting some of the trees down so he could build like an a frame house. That's what he always wanted to build for us. But he did and go in and just cut down any tree. He was very selective on what he did. My dad was raised in Alaska. Family were fishermen and laggers, so my dad had a really deep respect for mother nature and animal.

12:00 Whenever he hunted, he always said, you know, make sure you think you know, we thank this animal for giving up itself, you know, so con feed us and whatnot. You know, he was very very mindful. And so my dad comes in, I jump it back into bed. I hear him coming to the door. I jump back into the bed and I go, yeah, well who are you talking to He's like, oh, I was praying. I go why didn't hear you say amen? So my dad just kind of goes amen. You know. So we're laying in bed, you know, and I'm like Dad, you know what. He's like, Let's not talk about it. You know, everything's gonna be fine. Don't worry about it. You know, they're more scared of us than we are them. You know, he's getting you know, Dad's trying to calm down his son, you know, and it's working a little bit, but I'm still, you know, I'm still a little frightened. I don't know how long I was awake, but I woke up hearing this loud, like this loud creak. And when I say creak, I meant I hear something step up on the deck. And whatever had stepped up on this deck, the boards were just growning. It was like a massive amount of weight was stepping. With each stepping, you heard him crack and groan.

13:11 And and about that time, where I slept on my dad's bed, I'm right against this camp of wall, and I heard and felt something run by, and I look over my dad and my dad's you know, I'm getting ready to say something. My dad puts, you know, puts his finger to his lips. He's like, tell me to be quiet. And my dad is the one out there, and he like shakes his head, you know, and I'm looking at him and he puts up three fingers and I go, there's three out there, and he's like yeah, you know, he did mouths yes. And about that time, I hear this vocalization coming from outside, you know, like it's kind of like the samurai chatter. I'm not gonna try to imitate it because I'm gonna butcher it, but so I kind of heard that and I looked at my dad, and my dad's chill, chill, still telling me to, you know, be quiet. And that's when I noticed my dad had a gun resting on his chest. And I'm like, I'm thinking, you know, now, I'm now as as a fifty you know, fifty two year old almost fifty three year old man, I'm thinking, Number one, my dad's handgun was not going to stop one of these things. Number Two, if they wanted to get it, this is all they had to do was rip that door right off that camper.

14:23 There's no stop in one of these things if they wanted to get at me, right, so, I must have dozed off I wake up. We had the the curtain on the on the camper door. It was cracked a little bit. Sunlight was shining through, and as it woke me up, well, I jumped up real quick, jumped over. My dad flew open the door, and I'm looking around and I'm looking and I did something I knew I wasn't supposed to do, but I did it. And I climbed up on the on the banister, you know, the the the railing of the of the deck. Climbed up where I could see higher up on and all the food was gone. Every single thing my dad proke there was gone. I looked around, there was nothing on the ground. Nothing.

15:10 I go and I look at the pole and you could see where something had grabbed the pole. It was a massive hand and you could tell a massive hand had grabbed this pole. And then it looked like from as high up as it could reach was almost to the very very top of where this little metal platform was, there was like a line from there all the way down where something had taken its finger and just rubbed it all the way down. It must have got a ton of grease or whatever it was on its finger, but you could tell where it just ran his finger down. So I run into the house record on his camp real quick. I'm my dad, Dad, Dad, all the food's gone, All the food's gone thing. He's like what, I go, all the food's gone. They took the food. They took the food, and you know, my dad told me to kind of keep it down. My dad goes out, looks, we look around. I don't recall ever seeing any any prints around that at that time, and so my dad would go out walking around, look over at the shed and stuff. Don't see anything. About that time. My little brother comes out and you know, hear us talk and he's like, you know, oh, what are you gonna talking about?

16:18 I said there was a big foot, and my dad got mad because I, you know, set bigfoot. My brother's like, oh, he goes, yeah, I've seen a couple of small ones hanging around, you know, when we play our music, and like what He's like, yeah, he goes whenever we bring the radio out and we play music, you'll play tape or whatever. While out there playing, I see two small ones. They go to the tree line over there, and he's pointing over to an area where my dad already cleared and in that area, we'd built a tree fort, and my brother goes, yeah, they like to hang out over there and listen to listen to the music, and he goes. I remember going over to the tree fort one day and I saw something jump out of the tree fort and run off into the woods. And I thought it was just a little boy, but it was it was too big to be a little boy. So that was that siding that I had now previously, before that siding, this happened probably, I want to say, well maybe February timeframe when this happened. We had a storm come through and the thunder lightning rain. I mean, it was just it was a terrible thunderstorm and for some reason I just could not fall asleep. So I'm laying on my back and this huge bang of thunder hits and this this bright flash of lightning, and no sooner did that lightning disappear. It felt like our camper was being pushed over on its side. Something hit the camper super super hard enough where it felt like it was tipping the

17:49 camper onto its side. And when it fell back down, I immediately pulled open this little curtain, little shade that we had and I looked out, and when I looked out, I saw this this flat lightning hit and it lit up the whole area, and I saw something walking, not running, but walking and walked underneath this this tree where this branch was hanging out, and walked off into the woods. And you know, I told my dad, you know, my brother was asleep. My dad. I woke my dad up. My dad says, we'll look in the morning, and my dad it was. It was a GD bigfoot. He's like, stop saying that. I go, Dad, it was a GD bigfoot. He's like, stop saying that. I go, Okay, it was a bigfoot. And I was very adamant that's what I saw.

18:35 But again I wasn't really one hundred percent certain at that time. And again this happened before I saw my sighting. And so we went out the next morning and we're looking around and it had rained, so people could have just taken a fire hose and just spread the whole whole ground. That's how much rain it looked like it fell. Turn around. We looked at the camper and about six and a half maybe seven feet up there was a huge dent in the side of our camper where like something had ran as hard as it could and like put shoulder into it or use both hands to try to push it over. It hit the camper so hard that some of the anchor straps were pulled completely out of the ground. Some of the cement blocks that were the camper was on had been crushed, had been you know, broken and things. And my brother comes out of here's this talking and he's like, you know what happened? What you know? You guys are saying something hit the camp and my dad goes, A branch hit the camper. It's like, oh okay. So that was like the very first you know, at that time that I understood, you know, this is what I saw, This is what you know, this is what's.

19:53 Going on, Daniel. That is just absolutely wild for content for the listeners. So this takes place in Pierce County, which, if we're going by the BFRO, I believe has the highest number of publicly available Pierce County has its gig Harbor all the way over to Mount Rainier National Park and you're there kind of in the middle of it. So you've got a lot. Of action going on, a ton of action. YEP. Had a few questions. Vitoria definitely go ahead, No, no, go ahead. Remind me again.

20:34 So the initial sighting where there was the female bigfoot by the side of the road, how far away from your camper was that again? Maybe maybe two hundred and fifty yards maybe, man, maybe two hundred. Wow. I know you said you were about twelve years old, so it's it's been a while. But I mean, do you remember any any details of what you were able to see? I mean you said you saw the face for a little bit, correct. Yeah, yeah, absolutely well. She she had a like a slight conical head huge bridge high bridge, you know, bridge brow, a flat nose. Her skin was black. Her color of her hair, I want to say, was like a dark like charcoal almost black. Yeah, that's I mean. She didn't show me her teeth. She had ears kind of like almost like a chimp kind of but not. And yeah, dude, she was massive. Man, she was just huge. She was probably a good seven and a half feet tall, just massive.

21:51 I had to guess weight. I'm saying probably four hundred and fifty five hundred pounds. Maybe she was massive. Would you be able to estimate if you were looking at how wide across the shoulders were? M Probably four and a half maybe four and a half feet wide at the shoulders maybe five. She was big, man, She was big. And the funny thing is is I honestly believe that there was a family. And you know some people may say, well, you know, they don't travel in families, Yes, they do. This was a family unit. And the reason I say that is the one that hit the camper, I want to say, was like an adolescent male. You're like, maybe like a late teens, early twenties.

22:39 Then there was two juveniles my brother had seen. I never saw him, and then there was one big male that I just caught glimpses of. It was never something, oh, look there he is, you know, but what he was kind of like in the area, and you knew what he was in the area because I just got this feeling. Have been plenty times my brother and I were out and had our tree fort hanging out and my brother just looked at him. He's like, we got to go back to the house. I'm like, yeah, we gotta go. It just the whole air just changed. Now when the female was around, never had that. When that like the the atl or the i'll call him the teenage or the young adult, the young adult never really felt that, but when the big male was around, things just changed.

23:26 And I remember at times I looked out in the window of our tree fort and I'd see something move back behind a tree, and what I saw was a bigger than the female, massive by the female, And I don't understand why he would hide behind some of these trees, because he was wider than these trees. He easily had to be five and a half almost six feet wide across. I mean, well, I met, I might be exaggerating that, but I'm telling you, Jeremiah, this dude was massive, but he was never aggressive towards me. I never encountered him being aggressive. He just I think he was just around just to make sure we didn't we didn't screw off and do something. Stupid, you know, right, Yeah, absolutely.

24:09 And I think him. I think the father and the mother the female that I saw, I think they kept that young adult in check because if they weren't around, there's no doubt in my mind. I want to say that young adult would easily have just been tormenting us the entire time. Wow, I don't get to talk to a lot of people about female big foot sightings. Was it similar to Patty at all or was it a completely different thing. I want to say similar. I want to say probably about seventy five to maybe eighty five percent similar to Patty. Like the girth, because Patty's she was girthy. You know, she had matt and so did this one. She had mass And again, it wasn't the first time that I saw her. It wasn't like the only time I saw her.

24:58 My dad, you know, he helped me and my brother build a two seater go kart that we you know, we had off like these off road wheels on, and we would we would just drive all over the place, right And there'd be times where I'd be flying by and my brother he'd look behind. He goes, she's looking at us, and I whip around real quick. I kind of snapped my head around. I see her, just catch a glimpse of her. She would like look out of the woods just to see what we were doing. But never never met I mean, we never had rocks or sticks or anything thrown at us while we were there.

25:40 We did hear, you know, we did hear whoops, We did hear whistles. I remember we heard this owl one time. Bobby, did you hear. My little brother's name was Bobby, and I'm like, Bobby's you hear that owl? He's like, man, that owl that doesn't sound like an owl. But you know, we heard things like that in the area. I mean, there were porcupine in the air, there were coyotes in the area, there were deer in the area, rabbits, squirrels, that type of stuff. There's also a couple of houses in the area, but they weren't super close to us, so we had to like go through the woods as a shortcut or go back down the gravel road then turn off one of these little tinier roads to go to this you know, people's house. And I remember one day I was goofing off in the woods and I ran into this kid about might say maybe maybe nine or ten years old, okay, and I'm like, oh, where do you live. He's like, I'll live right over here.

26:36 You know, my dad knows you guys moving in over here, and you want to come over to my house. I'm like, yeah, you know, And I said, real quick, I gotta go tell my dad, and he goes, I'll come with you. So we go running over to my house and my dad dad, I found a friend he lives over here through the woods, and I was like, my Dad's like, oh, that's great. You know, just be careful when you're out there, you know, don't do thing dumb. You know, don't be stupid. And so, you know, I'd go over there quite a bit of times. And one thing that I thought was really super cool about his house is that his dad had this giant rabbit hutch. This rabbit hutch was mass we could have been like a little fort, like seriously, And what was really cool about this hutch is that the front of it had like these double doors that had this locked. He had to slide like a bolt.

27:26 You'd slide the bolt over and then and then lock it down. And then you had two other locking mechanisms that you lifted, like the front part of the roof of the hutch up and it would like lock into place. So if you wanted to go in there and clean everything out, you had easy access, right Well. I remember one day I'd come over to my friends and me and my brother we come running up the driveway and I see his dad come walking around from the back of the house and he's just livid. He's like, I don't get it. Why would someone do this? So we're thinking that our friend is out there in the backyard, so we go run alongside the house while his dad goes into the garage and Jeremiah something had manipulated the locks, ripped the doors off, and killed every single rabbit. Who And when I say killed them, he goes. I remember his dad distinctively saying, they're all here, but why And when he asked that question, this is why he asked that question. Some of them are ripped apart. Some of them just had their heads ripped off. He had like twenty rabbits, thirty rabbits maybe in there, and all the

28:57 rabbits were accounted for, but they just all heads popped off, ripped in half, you know, either side, you know, like grabbed from the head in the bottom and just pulled apart, or grab by the back legs and ripped in half that way. Just all of them mutilated and just left there like someone was doing it just to have a good time. And that's probably the scariest thing that that's that happened to that location. Like I said, it was probably maybe a quarter of a mile half a mile from where we were to the road, something like that, and we would have to walk up to the to the main road where there was a street light. That's where our bus picked us up. And there'd be times we'd have to get up, like four o'clock in the morning, four thirty to get up to the bus stop, because the bus cat came around like a five point fifteen and this is a rural area, so it had a big route, and so by the time we got to school it was like seven thirty, So we had like a two hour bus ride sometimes. And I remember pitch black, darkest darkest can be. And we were not walking down that gravel road. We were running down that gravel road.

30:06 And there would be times where we knew and we heard something pacing us on either side of us until we got up to where the edge of that light was. As soon as we walked into how that where that light shine was from that street light, that's when they stopped and then we get on the bus. So yeah, and but we only stayed in that property for about a year, maybe a little over a year. My dad had been involved in a very really, really bad car accident. He was almost killed, so we had to move back to Tacoma and move in with my aunt and uncle, and it was almost a full year by time we went back out to that property. You know, everything was all blocked up and stuff. And when we went there just to grab the rest of our stuff, because it was in October that my dad had that accident, So it was probably not in not a year, I'm sorry, not a year. It's probably that next ring. I walked around the camper and it looked like something was looking even how you cut your hands over your eyes on the side of your eyes to try to look into something. Yeah, it looks like every single one of the windows you saw that print, and you could see where like a nose was pushed up against like something was trying to look in the windows, and especially the windows where my brother and I's beds were, because that was a good maybe seven feet off the ground and there's eyes looking and trying to look through the curtain that was there.

31:36 But every window had multiple like prints like that. So but yeah, yeah, and that was in the early to mid eighties. You were saying eighty. Four, right, yeah, early, yeah, yeah, eighty four. Did I. At any point did your dad ever try to talk to the cops about what was going on or is kind of like we can handle it ourselves. Or well seem like I said, my dad was raised up in Alaska, So my dad's head had encountered with things up in Alaska. To the day that he died. He still swears, you know, he swore to the day that he died that he saw werewolf. My dad encountered the Kushtaka on two occasions while he was up in Alaska.

32:23 So my dad, you know, my dad believed, you know that as long as we weren't doing anything aggressive, but we weren't doing anything disrespectful, that they wouldn't really mess with this. And there was times where my dad would put other things up like smoke salmon. He'd put that up there, and he'd always do the same thing. He'd always grease that pole so nothing else can climb up that pole and get it and it'd be gone. And there'd be times where we'd have like, well, my brother found a dead squirrel sitting up there. There would be times where we'd have like rocks up there, or a marble. There's a marble up there for some reason. So berries, uh, there would be huckleberries up there, blackberries, raspberries, Yeah, just sitting up there. Wow.

33:08 So there was maybe a little bit of a gifting situation going on there in a way. Yeah, probably if my brother said at times he'd thrown like a ball because he knew they were sitting he knew the juveniles were sitting out out in the woods watching us. So my brother be out there goofing off, and he would live on purpose, throw a ball out there, and we never see it again, never see it. Again, No, I bet not. You would definitely not see it again. Did you ever talk to your dad about this when you were an adult or when you were older? Oh? Yeah, oh see, this is this is the thing with my dad. My dad. My dad believed my dad. No, my dad knew, I mean, and we would talk about it and it would be the same thing, you know, Daniel, you know, you know what you saw, you know what you saw, you know, And and then I got to asking him because you know, I'd start having these these memories also come back to me and stuff. And I remember, like when I was like seven, seven or eight, my dad, my dad loved to hunt and there was this place up around I want to say, north northeast of Aberdeen, and we called it the Hunting Camp. Right. Well, my

34:38 dad we went to this hunting camp and we went and we weren't hunting. Well, I wasn't hunting. My dad was hunting. And he goes, you want to go hunt with me? And I'm like sure. He goes, well, we have to get up early. We're gonna sit in the deer stand. And I'm like okay. And I was unusual for my dad. My dad never really hunted from a deer stand. He'd always be on the ground and he would normally track, you know, what he wanted to hunt and then do what, you know, do what he did. And I remember we went up had camp. The next day we went out and he goes, he come up in this, you know, come up here. This is our deer stand. And the deer stand overlooked this trail, but there was also a couple of game trails that came that came off of it went underneath the deer stand and then up into the woods behind the deer stand.

35:29 And my dad goes at, you know, at night there they come out of the woods from here, they do what they do down here, and then when it starts getting light again, they're gonna come back up this path. This deer. You know this this this animal path or whatever, and they'll go back up into the woods and they'll bed down for the day because then they know people were out and about. They don't you know, that's where they're gonna lay low. Because I had asked him, why are we not looking at the woods, he goes and he gave me that reason. So he gets me up to the deer stand. You know, we have a picks his rifle, hoists his rifle up with with a rope and we're sitting up in there, and it was a homemade deer stand. It's big enough for two people. And my dad starts looking through his little back his little napsacks, a little backpack. He's like, oh, I forgot something. We were baby, I don't know, half a mile away from the camp and he's like, stay here, it'll be fine.

36:29 I'm gonna run down to the camp get what I need, and I'll be right back up. I'm like, okay, no big deal. I'm like seven, eight years old. I'm not scared of anything. I'm not worried about anything. Right, So even in later life, I did this when I went hunting, I started dozing off. Now I'm getting comfortable, and I've got my left leg stretched out and it's kind of hanging off to the side a little bit of the deer stand, and I filled this tug on my boot and it kind of kind of wakes me up, and it's not quite light yet, and so I look and my boot's untied, and I'm looking around and I'm like, oh, man, I must have twitched, and you know what, my dad might be messing with me. So I reached down, I tie my boot up again, and I'm watching, you know, looking around. All sudden I start nodding off again, and just as I get ready out off boom, I fill my tug on my boot again, and I look down and my boot's untied again, and I'm like, Dad, knock it off, you know. And so go and I go and I tie my boot up again, and now this time I'm watching my boot. I'm like, okay, I'm gonna see if it's my dad messed with me, because maybe you know, he saw me nod now, or I saw me sleeping and he snuck up and now he's messing with me. Well, I hear this noise off to the right of me, and when I look over to see what it was. And I'm looking. I fill another tug of my boot and my boot is untied, and now

38:02 I'm I'm mad, but I'm also I'm scared. And about that time, I see my dad walking up the path and I'm like, Dad, real funny, real funny. He's like, what are you talking about? I go, Dad, you'n tied my boot. He's like, son, I didn't untie your boot. I go, Dad, you dig you'll tie my boot three times and he's like, son, I'm coming up from the camp. There's no way in this whole thing transpired about thirty forty five minutes maybe tops right, And I'm like, Dad, you untie my boot. I know you did. I know it was you. You snuck around. He goes, Son, I didn't, I go, Dad, you just untied it. You made a noise. He goes where I go over there, and so he's okay, he's stay put. So he goes and he starts looking around and I'm watching him. He's doing like a circle pattern, like a search, and he gets up to the woods behind the stand and he kneels down. He looks at something and I see my dad immediately take his rifle and put his rifle to ready. He like grabs his strap and he pulls it and tied into his shoulder.

39:09 And my dad's a Vietnam Vet. My dad was a hunter, first Airborne. He was an EOD specialist. He was a tunnel rat, did a lot of point, you know, walking point when they were on patrol. So my dad was very very observative things, just super super observant of everything around him. And I see him bring his rifle to the ready, and now he's scanning left or right and then back right to left, and he's like, he's like, he's like Daniel, get out of the tree right now, get out of the stand and head back down towards the camp right now. I'm my dad was going on. He's like, just go do it now. He's I look real quick and he's backing up, but he's still facing the tree line and he goes, just go. He goes, I'll be right behind you, and he goes, don't walk, you need to run run down to the camp. So I'm with everything I got, I'm a hauling button back down and I stopped every so often, and I see my dad he's coming back. He'd run. Need to stop and turn around head scan and he take off runt and he's like, just go go go. Well, we get into the camp and we see my uncle come out of the tent and he's like, Darryl, he goes, what are you doing? Because like, what do you mean? He goes, why are you messing with Danielize up in the standing.

40:14 He's like, I don't know what you talked about. I just came back from my stand. He goes. He goes, it's getting too warm out here. You know, nothing, nothing's going to be nothing's going to be moving around. So so he's like, okay, well we just need to go. So they packed up the they packed up the camp and we left. Now to get to this camp, you had to drive like an hour and a half two hours, and he had to hike in for like about another hour, I want to say. And the second time we went to the camp, we had my dad, my uncle who's also a Vietnam Vet, his neighbor or friend named Frenchie who was also a Vietnam Vet. Two of his neighbors, so he had five adults, and he had me and my brother, and then each one of the neighbors brought one of their sons so he had four kids and five adults. We had this giant canvas tent. I was like an army tent that you could sleep like ten fifteen people in comfortably, and normally you'd have like a like a little woodbirding stove in the middle of this.

41:12 That's how big this tent was. You had to bring everything in on like deer sleds or whatever. So everybody was carrying backpacks whatever they could. The kids didn't really carry a lot. The adults pulled all these you know, these sleds. They had everything packed down. They're real neat went in there, set everything up, you know. My uncle was like, hey, who wants to use some fishing? You know, we were fishing down in the stream that was close to the hunting camp. You could see, you know, it was like a rocky kind of like a small pebble, but sandy like beach, and the the part of the stream was right in front was really slow movie, so it was a good place to go swimming or fishing if you wanted to. My uncle said, he do you want to shoot? Shoot some guns? That's where I first shot a Rugo Super black Hawk forty four magnum. I was nine years old. When that happened, it took us about fifteen minutes to find the gun because it flipped over my head when I shot it. Amazing time. They were shooting twenty twos and just having a good time.

42:06 But when we shot the twenty two's, we heard this loud like yell like I thought it was like a bear roar way off in the distance right, and didn't think anything of it. So, you know, we caught fish, we ate. You know, we cleaned up all of our food stuffs were in bags and hanging up in a tree, probably about fifteen feet up into a tree over a limb. And you know, my dad had my uncle and my dad had tied him off real well. And my uncle was in the navy and he rode on those patrol boats up and down the MAEcon Delta. He was like the front gunner. So they had like twin fifty cows or twin sixty or something, so that's what his job was.

42:51 So again this is another person who's really really observant, has to keen eye looking for stuff. French. She was a psycho, but he was also a Vietnam vett. And these guys we had three bona FID Warriors with us. We didn't really worry about nothing. So the first night everything went by, you know, pretty cool, no big deal. Hurt some something moving around around the camp and we're like, you know what was that. I'm thinking it's a bear. No big deal. Second day goes out, you know, they see some tracks and stuff. I see him talking about. I'm not thinking anything about. I think what I see their bear tracks? No big deal. So you know, we're goofing off again the next you know that that second day, we're supposed to be out this for like four or five days. We're out there goofing off, fish and swimming, shooting bb you know, twenty two's again and this time my dad and my uncle they split us up and they wanted to show us the land. Hey, you know, if you guys ever lost, you find something like this, you know you can do this with it. You can do here. If you get lost, you stay put where you are, you know you can use this to make a noise. They're they're trying to show us some type of survivals. They want us to have a good time, but they want us to learn something. And so a second date, we're shooting, we're shooting again, and this time we here not like a bear roar, but we hear like a howl, but like with a scream attached to it.

44:07 And it was closer this time. Wasn't often it is that this is closer. So I noticed the adults looking around and they're like, hey, you guys are getting late. You know, let's have some dinner. So we we ate some dinner again, cleaned up, put everything up, and we're laying down. And how we all slept was the two neighbors and Frenchy were sleeping. If you're looking directly at the tent, they're sleeping on the left hand side of the tent, and the two neighbors, the two neighbors their sons are sleeping with them. And then it's me. It's my dad, me, my brother, and my uncle on the other side on the right hand side. And now we hear a lot of movement outside. We hear footsteps, we hear scuffling. We hear some something getting into some of the stuff that we have left out. It's nothing like food, ornything.

45:08 It's just like pans and and you know, chairs or whatnot, and the stuff's moving around. We hear like like murmuring like a you know, something like like talking, and then we hear something and I can fill it with each step walking around the tent. And when I look up, I see my dad as wide awake, and he's got his rifle. He had had a Marlin letter Action thirty thirty rifle. Frenchy was up. The other two guys were up, and my uncle were up, and they were all carrying either I had a handgun, a higher high caliber handgun or a rifle. And I'm watching my dad and my Dad is following whatever's walking around the tent as he's as he's going by, he's following it with his with his rifle frenching and my uncle or sitting in the middle of the tent, one's face in the front flap and one's face in the back flap. And if anything was gonna come through that they were in trouble because those two were unloaded on them right. The other boys are sleeping, and I'm wondering what's going on. So I go to ask my dad a question. I'm trying to whisper to him, and about that time I hear something run by, but as it ran by, it sounded like claws raked across the whole side of the canvas tent and then over on the other side of the campas tip like, so it ran around holding his left arm out and his hand out and just raking its claws

46:40 all the way around the tent. And then after it did that, it was silent like there was nothing else going on. It just got as silent as a morgue again. I could. I'm doing everything I can not to start screaming. My dad is holding me. He's got his hand over my mouth, so I wouldn't scream. I didn't go to sleep For the rest of the night, it seemed like it was forever until sunlight came out. Birds started chirping. I watched Frenchie and my dad and my uncle or my Frenchy and my uncle and the other two guys leave and alsoden. I hear my uncle, O, Dean, you gotta come out here and see this. And I beat my dad outside the tent because if my dad has gets to see something cool, I want to see something cool, right, So I go running out and our food bags, there are three of them. They were all taken out of the tree. They were open, and anything that was not a can was gone completely gone. Chairs were messed up.

47:53 We found stuff down by the river. Now I'm seeing giant, like human sized footprints, probably seventeen eighteen nineteen inches long, all over the place, and my Dad's like, let's go get the boys up, let's pack up. We're getting out of here. So as we're getting everything ready, we hear this scream that came maybe one hundred and fifty two hundred yards from the side one of the sides. If I'm thinking, if I remember the right hand side north southeast west, I couldn't tell you if I'm looking at the at the lake or at the stream. It's to our right hand side, the side where the tent is. It's like about one hundred and fifty two hundred yards away, and it is loud, and you feel it come through the trees the scream. No one bothered to pack anything up neatly. They just threw things on the sleds. People were grabbing packs that didn't belong to them. And now we're running, we're taking off. We're going back up again.

48:55 This is like an hour hike to this campy spot, to where we parked our trucks. It was my dad's truck, my uncle's truck, and Frenchy's truck. And when we started taking off, it was Frenchy in the front, then the two dads, then the four kids, and then my uncle Darryl and my dad bringing up the rear. And as we're going, they're like, you guys gotta go faster, You guys gotta go faster. Well, my little brother and one of the other boys were younger than us. They wound up getting put on one of the sleds, and the two other adults are just pulling my brother, my brother, and one of their sons as fast as they can.

49:43 I've got my little brother's backpack in front of me. I've got my backpack on the back of me, and I'm running with everything I got. I think I'm carrying something else. I don't really recall what it was, but we're making crazy time. But now you hear something tearing through the trees, and you can't really see it, but you can hear. All of a sudden, I hear my dad. My dad yells, I've got one over here on the left, and then I hear my uncle say, I just saw one over here on the right. And these guys are Jeremiah. These are two Vietnam vets. I've seen two sides of my uncle and two sides of my dad. I've seen the happy, go lucky, the joy you know, the joys, you know guys, the jokers, And then that day I saw dead series. I saw two guys that were ready to throw down and just inflict a massive amount of pain and damage on whatever was aftering. They they went right back to Vietnam, and they're like, move, and we're running as fast as we can. Now they're not saying, you know, they're not saying what they're seeing. They're just saying, I've got one on the left, I got one on the right. We get running. We come up and I can see where we've got to go, up this little hill and then up to the stad up to the road.

51:01 This is logging road. We go up. They're already throwing things and trucks as they go. Whatever truck is closest is getting something thrown into the back of it. My brother runs, he gets in the middle truck. I think it was my uncle's truck. I jump into the back of my dad's truck. Everybody is just jumping in the closest vehicle they can get into that isn't already full again the old you pull down the visor, the keys fall out. That's what was the scenario there. Guys are getting in the trucks are starting them up. My uncle all of a sudden, he just throws the sled that he had threw it up over. It almost landed on me.

51:43 Because I'm in the bed of the truck. I see my dad run by. He gets in the bed of the truck that's in the middle, I believe my uncle's truck. My uncle Darrel jumps in the back of our truck, the truck that I'm in, and they just say go, go go, and they start taking off and they are They are going like a bat out of hell, and I'm sorry to cuss, that's what they were doing. All of a sudden, my uncle just starts unmowed. Bang bang bang bang. He's got a lever action as well. My dad boom, boom boom, He's just rocking and rolling. About that time, I look up and I see this branch that was or this stick or whatever, and it was probably eight feet long and maybe three inches around. It came selling from the woods through the air and it almost hit the the front end of my dad's truck.

52:36 It barely missed the front front end of my dad's truck, and they we just gassed it and we never went back to the hunting camp. Holy mackerel, that and that. So that happened years before. Yeah, the other goodness. But again I didn't really know what was. I didn't know what it was. I didn't know that could have been a And again, to this day, I'm still not saying what was messing with my boot and what faced us out of the woods. I'm not here to tell you that one was a big foot. I'm not because I didn't see it. I saw tracks, I heard noises.

53:18 I've heard I've seen tracks and heard noises that if you look at any video on YouTube or listen to any podcast, it's all conclusive with what a sasquatch. But I didn't see it. I'm not saying that's what it is. And then when you were twelve, you actually saw it. I know what I saw exactly. I know what I saw. Oh my goodness, dude, So having a good I'm sure that you you've had this internal thought over the years, what do you think it is that we're looking at when we look at something like what you saw when you're twelve, Do you think it's an animal or or some kind of human relative or.

54:08 You know now that I mean now that I'm I'm a co host on a podcast and I've I've researched so many stories and have heard so many stories and on my own before I was a co host on the podcast researching and watching things. You know, one my host Josh him and I completely disagree on what these things are. I know for a fact one in my heart that what I've seen in experience was one hundred percent flesh and blood. To put a label, is it type of a relic human? Is it an undiscovered you know, North American ape? I don't know. I want to tend more towards maybe a hybrid, maybe more of a relative humanoid human, because the intelligence is there. I'm not saying apes and chimps are not intelligent, because I mean, I mean, it's it's been documented that chimpanzees will use weapons. Chimpanzees use will use tools, you know, they use things to manipulate certain things. So the intelligence is still there. With a primate, I just really can't, I can't. It's in it's it's in its own box, really is it? Is it off the same tree as a human? Maybe?

55:35 I don't know, Daniel. One thing is for sure. Whatever it is, it's intense and it is very smart. And I've not had a visual yet, but the screen, we've got a big storm outside the roar in the roar scream. I experienced that in Oregon, way out in the woods. I know what you're talking about. And dude, it's a smart animal. Whatever it is, it's I personally think it's a some kind of physical creature that can do a lot of stuff that science can't explain yet, and who knows where that's going to lead. Let's let's talk about Mysteries.

56:20 Unknown for a little bit. Sure, so you're your co host with Josh is also a great dude. Have there been any really interesting accounts that you that come to mind when you think of that? I mean, you've done multiple episodes and you've got already quite a following over there. It's a YouTube channel called Mysteries Unknown, And are there any any accounts that that stick out to you among the episodes that you've done so far? You know, there there's there's actually quite a few that real be dumbfound, you know, and I won't say because I never experienced it, and it's it's really odd that, you know, we're just picking up a lot of traffic with dog Man right now, which I'll be honest with you, I don't know what that is. I think I tend to agree with the Josh more about this that they're evil, they have no good intention. I've heard way too many stories about them. I don't think I've ever seen one.

57:24 I've had an encounter which I can't I can't roll it out. I was up in the up in Michigan and my wife and I were coming home and we were just we were just west of Escanava, like like just hardly out of town, and it was probably one or two in the morning, was super super foggy, and I turned my my driving lights on, like my fog lights on, and I see something moving from the right side of the road, like not quick, just slowly walking across the street. And I kind of slowed down and my lights hit it, and Jeremiah, this was the biggest, darkest wolf I have ever seen in my life. I have never seen a wolf this big in my life.

58:28 If I would have driven, if i'd have drove excuse me, I would have drove my truck up to this wolf and it just stood there and looked at me. It very well could arrested its chin on the hood of my truck. And I drive I drive a four wheel drive twenty fourteen Chevy S ten Crew cab Z seventy one miles all right, And there's no doubt in my mind if if I would have pulled right to that wolf, he would have put his chin up and rested his chin and would been looking right at me with his with his with his head on the hood of my truck. And then he just kind of stopped. So I slowed down and I almost came to stop, and he kind of just very slowly kind of slowed down, and then he kind of looked at me, and he just kept walking straight, just kept walking to the left and just kept his eye on me, and then disappeared off into the woods. Now I didn't think anything about this, so I went on Google Maps, probably three or four months ago, and I know exactly where I saw this. I saw this wolf, and I looked at the Google Maps, and I'll be darned if there was not a cemetery where this thing was coming out of man and it just walked across the street and off into the woods, and

59:58 I couldn't get out of their fact. So you ask me if there's anything, any any episodes that stand out, and it's it's our dog Man episodes. I mean they are. We just had one recently posted up there. Or this guy to this day he shot one that looked like a fox when he was out hunting as a kid, and he said he saw this fox, he raised his rifle or his shotgun, and in his mind he heard don't and then he shot, and then he. Heard shoot me whoa? And he says, to this day, this dog man is following him wherever he goes. This dog man has has used mind speak, as he describes it, and has told him when it is given the okay to do so, it's going to kill him, is the dog man. The dog Man told this guy, when I'm given the okay, I'm going to kill you, m.

1:01:19 Bro, that okay one that that stuff freaks me out. So the dog Man stuff is freaky to me. That mind speaks stuff to me is even more freaky. Because here's the thing. Who's to say you can't prove that it's dog Man or it is Bigfoot. And I know I'm going to get flak for this, but it's like, dude, I think, I think. I don't know what I think yet, Daniel, I don't know, and that stuff scares me to death because what if it's bigfoot, what if it's not dog Man, what if it's something else?

1:02:02 You know what I mean? Exactly one hundred percent. I understand that you're saying, well, let me ask you. Do you believe in infrasound? Yes, sir, I do. I do as well. And I've been thinking about it as i've been talking to you, and I'm gonna go ahead and let let you in on the last experience that I had. All I'm gonna say is it happened in Shelby County, Tennessee. It happened in ninety two. I was home on leave from Germany. I'm an Air Force veteran. I was Air Force Security police officer, and uh.

1:02:43 My brother, my brother, my brother was this is my best friend, my absolute. You know, you grow up and you have friends and say, yeah, that guy's my best friend. Or I still haven't gotten over his death. And he passed away in twenty sixteen. So he graduated high school in ninety two, and our grandfather had just passed away, And so I came home on a burntsea leave, and I wanted to surprise him that I was coming home. One thing that we like to do, we loved just hanging out with each other.

1:03:32 It didn't matter. I'd get in my car, he'd get in his car, you know, whichever, whoever wanted to drive, and we would just go. And I'll tell you all over the South, him and I, We've been all over the South just to go out and drive. Didn't matter. We'd pull inside the road and we'd sleep. We'd have enough money, we'd get a little small hotel room and we'd just rack out and then we'd just go exploring around. It didn't matter. We'd be gone sometimes for weekends at a time, you know, with Eve, like on a Friday, we'd be home. On a Sunday night, we want to go camp. And I s something we did a lot when we were little, and he said, hey, let's go to this one spot. I'm like, okay, yeah, sure, not a problem. And the spot butts up against the Mississippi River, So you know, we get a little packs and you know, our canteens, and you know, we had like our little two person tents. Now you know, he was a big boy six one six' two about three, fifteen you, know And i'm like five, nine like one, eighty and so a two man, tent you, know wouldn't. Do so we had this four man, tent which, really with the size of both of us in there was actually a two man.

1:04:50 Tent what do you think about with our sleeping bags and. Stuff so we were packing pretty. Light this was Late, may Early, june so we're packing pretty. Light we didn't really have to worry about staying warm because you, know down south it's it gets pretty. Warm and so we go and we. Park there's like a visitor center. There so we go and, park and he's driving his seventy Six Lincoln, continental baby blue with a white. Top he called it the stink And. Lincoln then we go and there's whereas we, park we start walking down this road and there's a path that goes off into the. Woods so we take the path and then he's, like, well, hey let's let's go this. Way let's go off this, path and he, GOES i know there's an AREA, o we're here further down almost right on the. River it's got a nice sandbar pretty close to. It you. Know i'm, like, hey, yeah let's, go let's do. It so we take off and we're probably walking maybe about an, hour and he's, like, MAN i gotta go to the. Bathroom and so he stops and he starts going to the bathroom AND i hear this whistle AND i going to ask if he heard.

1:06:03 That he, goes, man what do you whistling me? For he, goes what do you? Like go, bro WASN'T i didn't? Whistle and so he finishes up and we start going down and down towards, again and also he just. Stops he, goes do you hear? That AND i, GO i go know, what what what do you? Mean did you hear? That AND i go, know and he, GOES i hear someone? Walking, now if you if spending time in the, woods you know what a squirrel sounds. Like you, know you know what a deer sounds. Like you, know you know what these sounds. Are you know what a four legged animal sounds. Like you know what a two legged person or animal sounds. Like and it's definitely. Bipedal and he's, like, MAN i don't have a good. Feeling let's get out of. Here let's get out of. Here i'm, Like i'm, like, okay you, know so we turn. Around we started walking, back says, man we got to. Go. Now it's going to be dark by the time we get back to the, car so because let's just. Go so we turn, around we start heading back AND i WILL i got to go to the. Bathroom SO i start to go to the bathroom And i'm just getting ready to start and, he out of nowhere just pulls me like out of the, way and this stick or branch comes sailing through and hits the tree right where my head would have. Been and he's, like, dude we gotta. Go and he, GOES i just saw, Something like what do you, Mean he, GOES i just saw something peek around from that tree over, there And i'm, like let's, go. Man so we start going and we're huffinged and just out of, nowhere it's just like he just like stops and he puts his

1:07:35 hand on a. Tree he's, like, MAN i don't feel, good and it almost buckled into his, knees like he just almost went to his, knees, like, MAN i don't Feel, guys to, here, man he'll get a drink of. Water, here drink some. Water so he's trying to get some water and he's trying to get his composure with. Himself he's, like, Man i'm feeling you. Know he, goes, MAN i just don't feel guy feels sick AND i go, Here, man, here drink some more. Water he, goes, MAN i got a. Headache AND i go. HERE i sit, here just take some deep. Breaths, here drink some. Water so he drink some. Water he, said, okay we gotta. Go we gotta. Go SO i start going and all of a, SUDDEN i get THAT i get hit And i'm, like, MAN i, said whatever you just went, through you just gave it to. Me AND i started feeling really. Nauseous it's so much THAT i actually went down to a knee And i'm, like, MAN i don't feel. Good and then the headache hit me And i'm, like, BRO i GO i can't get my, bearings you, Know and he's, like get, up get, up we gotta. Go we gotta. GO i just saw something.

1:08:28 AGAIN i just saw something. Again and we start moving and we're, moving we're, hauling but we come through this trail and we see the main. Trail now we, know once we hit this main, trail we're not far. Away we're maybe one hundred and fifty yards two hundred yards to the main asphalt. Road so we start going and my brother is. Gassed he, is he's just. Gassed And i'm, like come, on, man come, on come. On he, Goes, man you're in better shape than. Me you just. GO i, said, oh come, on let's, go let's. Go so we get up to the main road And i'm facing where our car is, facing And i've got the keys to his car, too to his, car And i'm looking you look down the road and it's got like a bend in the road that goes to the. Right and he's looking at me and he's looking at you, know the road behind, me and he, goes, BRO i just saw across the. Street, Okay i'm not gonna. Cry i'm not gonna. Cry and he's, like, man just, go just. Go, yeh he. GOES i can't go. Anymore, Man he, GOES i can't. Go i'm. Gassed AND i, go, man come, on let's, go let's. Go and he, goes he, goes, no just he, goes tell mom, my. Lover he, goes just go get out of. HERE i know you'll be able to get to the car before. Me AND i

1:09:58 slapped him his hard AS i, could And i'm, like, man, no you take. Off go give me your. Knife you. KNOW i had a straight, edge almost like a k bar, knife and he had a really large lock. Blade AND i grabbed his knife from. HIM i, SAID i got. THIS i, said, Go i'll catch up with. You just. GO i KNOW i can catch up to. You and so he takes off at a dead, run And i'm standing there And i'm, like come, on let's, go let's. Go you want some of, This let's. Go And i'm Sure i'm saying other, things but i can't recall. Everything AND i was, saying BUT i know that's the effect the fact THAT i was. SAYING i was, Like i'm, like let's. Go you know you're not going to get my little, brother you. Know AND i hear my brother and, go come, on come, on come, on AND i look and he's just getting ready to go around the. Bend SO i take off at a dead. Sprint and When i'm running as harder and as fast AS i, CAN i hear something like a freight train just bulldozing right through the.

1:10:56 Woods it's right on my right hand. SIDE i mean it, is move it AND i, Go, bobby go go. Go, well he gets up to the car AND i try to duke some hazard across the hood of the. CAR i don't land THE i DON'T i don't stick the. LANDING i land on my. Back the BACKPACK i had on saved me because it. DIDN'T i didn't knock any of the air out of. ME i jumped back, up was able to get the key, in hit the unlocked. Button my brother jumps in AND i put it. IN i started the. CAR i put it a verse That I'm i'm rolling and he's, like go go. Go it's right. There it's right. THERE i can see it's in the it's in the. Trees it's chasing. It it's right, there right.

1:11:37 There and my brother's, like come, on please go, faster go. Faster he's, Like, daniel just, go just. Go AND i just mash the gas as hard AS i can and the engine kicks in and we start taking. Off he's, like it's, still it's right, there it's right with. Us and we come up to a t AND i locked the. BRAKES i cranked the wheel to the to the left with fish tail out AND i just take off and that's the last time we were in that. Area oh my. Goodness, Wow i'm. Sorry, Damn i'm sorry you lost your. Brother you can tell you, guys had you had a special special.

1:12:21 Connection h. M. Hm, oh, man he would be he should call me so many, pets. He would. Be he would be clown to me so. Bad right, now the baby white, Crying Oh i'm. Missing, yeah you'll see him again. Someday. Man OH i, know, YEAH i KNOW i. Will but, yeah that was that was The that's that's pretty much the last Time i've ever been deep in any woods like.

1:13:06 That, so, YEAH i was going to ask if if this is a thing where you, know now that you're you're getting into the show with With josh and in your, START i, know you're you go deep with with researching different, things if if you've gotten to the point where you start to go into, it it's not a thing for. You it sounds, like, yeah. You, know it's It's it's a lot of times When i'm doing, Research i've got to stop and just walk away from it for a little bit because it brings it back you, know and then it just makes me take you, know stock of my life and and you, Know i've got three grand babies, now and you, know three kids and a beautiful, wife and you, KNOW i don't go out and do the crazy things LIKE i used.

1:13:57 TO i used to just go for, days sometimes weeks off into the woods and just do my own, thing you. Know, Yeah AND i JUST i JUST i just. DON'T i just. Don't you. Know It's i'm more hyper, alert more hyper aware of my. SURROUNDINGS i DON'T i don't pigeonhole myself into certain. THINGS i DON'T i avoid areas and situations at all. POSSIBLE i carry EVERYWHERE i. Go you. Know it's better to have and not need than need not, have you know What i'm. Saying, no, Absolutely and it's it puts you in an interesting situation where you've had these things happened to you in the past and you're able to relate to you, know if you are to interview someone about a big foot site and you're you're able to relate about you, know the emotions they went through and how it probably you, know gets replayed.

1:14:56 Over and over in your, mind or you, know. Different things like that big for society will be right back after these, messages AND i think that's really. Special it's the thing Where i'm just starting to experience that myself Because i'm going out to different. Places but what is you, know speaking Of Mysteries, unknown what is the main goal that you guys have with that? Channel, well With Mysteries. Unknown you, Know josh created it And i'm champion it as. Well you, know we just want a safe space for people to go if they've had an, encounter they had something they can't, explain and they want to be able to let it off their.

1:15:55 Chest you, know they want to be able to get that off their chest and hopefully have other people related to. Them you. KNOW I i monitor the chat on each one of the, episodes during and even after they're. Posting you, know we do a live and then when we post a live or post Or josh post an. Episode you, KNOW i, understand And i'm guilty of. This i'm very VERY i look at. THINGS i scrutinize EVERYTHING i really, do AND i think that's just my military, background me being a police officer in the, military then being a crutch officer for The state Of tennessee for two years and then doing private security and things like. That you, Know i'm very very cynical in a way that WHEN i listen to someone's, account you, KNOW i give everybody the benefit of the, doubt AND i do not like it when people go on and just openly and blatantly just say this person's full of, crap this person's, lying this person's. BS i don't believe nothing they're, saying this person's a jokester or, whatever you, know because here's the, THING i don't know everybody's. STORY i don't know their.

1:17:02 EXPERIENCES i wasn't there on the ground with. Them. NOW i, mean you, know we've had we've had a guest on and you've had a guest on your show that you, know they've mentioned stuff when it comes to the, military And i'm very critical to. That, right one of the guests did the exact same THING i did in the in The Air, force AND i called shenanigans on a part of his story BECAUSE i know the rules and, REGULATIONS i know the operating, PROCEDURES i know all of, that and that person, WAS i, think telling a. Story and then you, KNOW i had a person on there AND i called the person out on you. KNOW i didn't say you're a, liar BUT i, said you, KNOW i got, questions you, Know And i've actually had conversations with that person And i'm actually following their channel too BECAUSE i like their. Channel it's it's pretty, interesting so but you, know still it's IT'S i just want to protect people's. STORY i just want to protect. THEM i want them to understand, that you, know there are people out there that have experienced similar, things if not the same, thing and it's a safe space for them to. Come and that's What Josh josh is very very very passionate.

1:18:16 About you, know it's a safe space for everybody to to let everybody, Know, HEY i did have this, issue AND i don't know where to. Go i'm afraid to say anything to. ANYBODY i just need to know AM i crazy or DID i see WHAT i? Saw or DID i experience WHAT i? Experienced and we want them to know, that, hey you can come here and you're. SAFE i love. That it's it's very close to what guides. Me but the thing THAT i like about your channel is that you, know you don't just stick To. Bigfoot you're throwing every all sorts of stuff in there as you were mentioning Before you've got the Dog man, episodes and a lot of my listeners are, like get into Dog.

1:18:58 Man i'm, like, Well i'm kind of sticking Big. Foot if it comes up, organically then, yeah we'll do. It BUT i, mean the great thing about your channel is that it's got all sorts of stuff for all sorts of people over, There so definitely listeners will want to check it. Out the link is going to be in the show notes and they can subscribe and all that good. Stuff But, daniel it has been such a awesome chat with. You i'm glad we're finally able to get you on the, show and thank you so much for sharing your. Stories your accounts THAT i know are are very near and dear to your, heart AND i really appreciate you doing. That, yeah, HEY i just want to let you know if it's. OKAY i mentioned you. Earlier earlier, TODAY i started my own, podcast Heck, you and it's called The Paranormal Narrative podcast that's on. YouTube i've only got one episode on there so, far AND i dive into everything that's, paranormal, supernatural, ghostly high, huntings things like. That i'm gonna try to stay away from bigfoot dog man that type of, stuff because That's josh's you, know that's his. Thing and the him AND i were a. Team you, know people have called this to the dynamic, duo and And i'm truly blessed to have him in my life as my friend and my, brother you. Know and you know because of, HIM i met you and found. You ACTUALLY i was listening to you BEFORE i even even Met. Josh so, dang, Yeah i've. Been i've. Been, YEAH i came across. YOU i,

1:20:30 CAME i go listen to this. Guy, listen listen how he. TALKS i love That kadi is how he. Talks you. Know, well, thanks, Thanks. DANIEL i appreciate. It, yeah, Man and you, Know i'm just trying to. Work i'm just trying to, work you, know work behind the scenes and Get josh some pretty good. Interviews And josh has done so much for. Me And josh, is like you, said he is such a great. Guy he, honestly, man he's helping fill that void of my little brother being. GONE i, mean he's that's the top single day the times of, day, Man AND i tell my love. Him he's my. Brother i'm blessed to have him in my life AND i just want TO i JUST I i succeed when he. Succeeded that's WAY i look. AT i want to do as much for him AS i possibly.

1:21:12 Can so. That's. Special, Yeah, daniel thank. You i'm going to have both both. Shows in the show notes that down the description people can check. Out but you guys are doing. Great I'm i'm a fan of what you guys are doing. MYSELF i try to catch everyone THAT i, can and, uh thank you so much for coming, On. Daniel, DUDE i, WAS i. WAS i was surprised that you wanted me, on And i'm very honored to be on your, show, MAN i mean you you. Are AND i call it My MONDAY i call it My Monday morning mix. Up you, know it's it's, You It's Sasquatch, Chronicles It's Josh, Nice Sasquatch, odyssey you. Know, SO i MEAN I i for probably five hours of my day is spent listening to you.

1:22:04 Guys like that's a good group to be. In thank, you. MAN i appreciate. It, WELL i appreciate. You. Man have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity Around, Oakridge? Oregon and you think to. Yourself, MAN i would love to get out in those woods and experience it for. Myself, well guess what this year you Can if this is interesting to, you stay tuned because it's pretty. Cool Sasquatch Summer fest is coming Up july tenth through the, eleventh twenty twenty. Six it's going to be even better than the previous year's reason number, One i'll be one of the. Speakers it's gonna be. Wild i'll Probably i'll say. This there may be stuff you haven't heard anywhere, else because let's just say sometimes it's, well you just got to be. There we'll leave it that more about looking For bigfoot in The Oakridge.

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1:24:01 A one day. Pass so thanks To priscilla for giving me that code so that you guys can can get a little help with the cost. There appreciate, That. PRISCILLA i hope to see you at the booth In oakridge this. Year we can talk about your. Encounter was able to talk to so many people last year and the year. Before it is an incredible. Time you're not going to want to miss, it And i'll see you. There before we wrap this, EPISODE i want to say something directly to a very specific group of. Listeners if you're in the, military any branch or, forces and if you've seen something that no one can, explain or if you're A national park ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay, quiet if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the, ground or if you're with THE fbi a federal, agency or working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk. About and if you're a, firefighter, paramedic or search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make. Sense if you're in the logging industry on a remote oil, field or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something happen that you've never told a. Soul and if you're a, biologist a wildlife, specialist or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to. Report if you're a, pastor a, missionary or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw

1:25:33 something that shook your, faith or if you work in the, SHADOWS, CIA nsa or anything with clearance and you've seen what the public, hasn't THEN i want to talk to, you even if it's. Anonymous you can reach me At Bigfoot society at gmail dot. Com the world needs to hear what you've been forced to carry. Alone and you're not. Alone you've got the, story we've got the. Mic see you in the. Woods thank you for listening to this episode of The Bigfoot society. Podcast every encounter we share reminds us that the world is bigger and. Stranger than we, think and that the truth is often hiding just beyond the tree. Line if you enjoyed this, episode please be sure to subscribe to the channel on YouTube hit the bell so you don't miss the next, episode and share this with a friend who's into, mysteries monsters or the.

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