April 28, 2026

Female Bigfoot Watched His Family for a Year | Washington | Archives

Female Bigfoot Watched His Family for a Year | Washington | Archives

Originally released as Episode 508 of Bigfoot Society on 8/26/24. He was only 12 years old when he came face to face with a towering female Bigfoot on a dark road in Graham, Washington. What followed turned one sighting into a year of nonstop...

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Season 1

Originally released as Episode 508 of Bigfoot Society on 8/26/24.

He was only 12 years old when he came face to face with a towering female Bigfoot on a dark road in Graham, Washington. What followed turned one sighting into a year of nonstop activity around his family’s remote property.


In this special archive episode, we have Daniel “Dano” from the Cryptid Podcast sharing the encounters that changed his life.


Heavy footsteps shook the deck at night. Food vanished from impossible places. Smaller figures watched from the tree line. Massive handprints and face marks appeared on the camper windows. His father seemed to know exactly what they were dealing with.


Daniel also shares terrifying events from a remote Washington hunting camp, along with later unexplained experiences in Michigan and Tennessee.

Resources:

The Cryptid Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@TheCryptidPodcast-h6y

Mysteries Unknown Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@MysteriesUnknownpodcast


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You're listening to Bigfla Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us.

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Hey, guys, we've got a special archive episode for you today,

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but I want to clear up a few things before

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we get into it because current listeners might be confused.

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So Daniel is also Dano and has his own podcast.

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Now.

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Besides being involved with the Mysteries Unknown podcasts, he's also

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involved with the encryptid podcast. I would recommend that you

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subscribe to both of these channels on YouTube as they're fantastic. So,

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as always, link will be in the show notes and

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let's get on with this great archive episode. All right,

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Big for Society, You've got the privilege of talking to

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Daniel today. Daniel's one of the co hosts of the

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great YouTube channel Mysteries Unknown podcast. I've been wanting to

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talk to him for quite a while. That is one

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of the shows that I like to watch. One of

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the I would say up and coming shows. There's that

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one and then not so Perfect Bigfoot show is great,

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but man, I love watching them when I've got the time.

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But Daniel, it's a pleasure chatting to you today, and

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thanks for coming on the show.

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Hey, Jeremi, it's my pleasure. Thank you so much for

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having me on.

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Absolutely How's how's the weather up there where you're at, Man.

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Well, it's probably the same as yours. I'm a little

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north of you. I'm up here in Minnesota, and so

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we're kind of going through like a cool wave and

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then a heat wave and looks like we're going to

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get some rain tomorrow. So yeah, probably about the same

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as you.

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Yeah, Yeah, that's that's true.

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We're both Midwest dude, So yeah, our stuff's pretty similar.

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But man, Daniel, we've talked a little bit off air,

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and it sounds like you've had some really interesting things

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happen on the show. So I would love to go

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ahead and just toss it right over to you, and

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you're welcome to share what you've experienced over the years.

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Sure. Well, you know, when I was twelve years old,

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I lived in Graham, Washington. That's where I'm originally from.

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I was born in Belgium. My dad was stationed over there,

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got back to Washington State and that's pretty much where

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I grew up. And we lived in Graham, Washington at

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the time of the sighting. Like I said, I was

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like twelve years old. This is ninety excuse me, eighty four.

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It's about eighty four timeframe. And when we my brother

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and I, when we first moved back with our dad,

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he was living in like an adult like RB Park

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trailer park, and that was more elderly retired people, and

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you know, there was really no one our age is

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supposed to be there. My dad was able to talk

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with the owners and they were okay with it. We

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made ourselves kind of useful, you know, we'd go around

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help out, you know, help people take their garbage out

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and stuff like that. We never caused any trouble. My

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dad knew and realized that this was not a place

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for us to grow up. So while we were spending

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I want to say, a spring break in Tacoma with

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my with my aunt. My dad had already in the

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works buying like five acres of land. And this land

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was not very far, you know. It was up up

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past the top of Graham Hill. I think it's Meridian.

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I think that's the name of the major street. I

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can't really remember. But when we came back, my dad

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just drove right past this trailer park. You know, this

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this this RV park, and I what are you doing?

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It's like I show you a boy something, and you know,

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he goes down a ways and makes her right and

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goes down away as another road, takes another right, and

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goes down away to another road and turns onto this

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long gravel road. Now, at the time, I thought the

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gravel road was probably like five miles long, but it

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was in actuality is maybe a mile and a half,

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maybe two miles long. But this road was it was

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kind of like it had dips in it and little

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rises and little straightaways, and then another dip and then

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another rise, you know. And so he goes down here

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and he pulls into this end of this property and

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lo and behold, there's the I'm gonna say camper. It

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was a fifth wheel, so it was pretty much a camper.

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There was the camper, and my dad had set this

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camper on this land. They had already cleared some of it.

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He'd built a really nice deck pretty much around from

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the back part of it around to the front part

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of it, just a huge deck, built a shed out there,

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and had fastened down this our camper. You know, he

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put the you know, had it put up on blocks

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and had all the anchor ties down and stuff like that,

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and you know, we were like, holy bunckets. You know

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this it's five acres of woods, pine and and some

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other indigenous trees. And I was like this, this is awesome.

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So we spend you know, that first weekend or whatever,

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just running around in the woods having a good time,

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never think anything of it. And fast forward we were

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coming back another time, me, my dad, my brother my

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dad was my dad of course, was driving my little

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brothers in this backseat sleeping and we're coming home and

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it's probably one or two in the morning, i want

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to say, more towards the one o'clock timeframe. And as

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we turn off onto the road, we go, we start

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going down. We go down this little dip. We come

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back up this rise, and we came on this ride

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and we hit this little straightaway and I noticed the

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some eyeshine off to the right side of this gravel

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road that we were on, and it was pretty far down,

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but it was still it caught my attention, and then

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I just said, Dad, I said, there's something up there

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on the road. I said, you might watch her in

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your bright's on. And he's like, no, no, no, you'll

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see us coming, you know, it'll, it'll, it'll, it'll get

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off the road, you know. And so we go back

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down this dip and back up this rise, and we

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come back up this rise. Our lights, you know, I

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see this light, this this this side shine again. It's

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like a dark amber, reddish hue. And I'm like, Dad,

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there's something right there on the side of the road.

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We go down this dip and come back up, it's

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going to be right there. So as we were to

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call him down the dip and come back up the rise,

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my dad turned his brights on and he also had

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these new fog lights on that you know, kind of

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like today's driving lights. They really widen your your scope

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of vision, right, and all of a sudden, our lights

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hit it, and there she was. And when I say

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she one hundred percent a female, she stood up, and Jeremiah,

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I honestly, I don't for the life of me, I

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thought she was never gonna stop standing up. She was massive.

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She turned at the waist, and that's how I knew

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that she was a female. Saw her breast, saw her face.

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She turned almost way she was standing up. She did

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like a one eighty. So she just kind of turned

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her complete body around. And it wasn't like super fast,

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like she just whipped around, but she kind of turned,

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looked at us, and then turned and then took like

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two steps maybe three steps, off the side of the

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road and was gone into the woods right. And I'm

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I'm I'm just I'm surprised. I'm scared. And as we're

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driving by, you know, I go, Dad, Dad, Dad, He's

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like he just didn't say a word. He just kept driving.

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He didn't speed up, he didn't sow down, he just

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kept going like he didn't see it. And as I

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looked to my to my right, I saw her like

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squatting into the woods, and there was enough light from

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the way the angle the lights shined out that I

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saw her blink her eyes twice. And so my dad

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pulled into our property and the car was not even

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at a complete stop. I had already had the door opening.

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I had my hand in my pocket taking my key out,

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and I as soon as my dad the car stopped,

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I was out of the car, running up the steps

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and unlocking the door door camper and running in and

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I jumped into my dad's bed. Now, when you walked

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into the camper a fifth will you know, you have

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this this hitch that you hitch up to a truck.

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So it's kind of got like this little loft area.

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And that's where my brother and I slept. And if

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you're looking head on at the fifth wheell at the camper.

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I slept on the right hand side. My brother slept

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on the left kind of. My brother slept on the

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side that was where the deck was built closest to that,

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and I slept where the shed and the woods and

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everything were. And so I jumped in. My dad had

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a hide to bed. It was a queen's eye hide.

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I jumped into that bed and I was like, Dad,

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you know. My dad comes in and he puts my

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brother up up into his bed, and I'm like Dad,

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what was that? What was that? He's like, you know,

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you know what that was? I go, Dad, that was

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that was a big foot. He's like, don't worry about it, no,

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you know, hey, everything's to be fine. And while he's

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talked to at me, trying to calm me down, he's

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going into the cupboards and he's pulling you know, fruit out.

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He's you know, o those types of stuff. He goes

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into the refriger and he pulls out you know, like grapes

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and some vegetables and things like that. And when my

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dad had built the deck, he put this this really

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tall pole on one corner of the deck with like

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a metal plate welded onto it because he wanted to

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put like a bird feeder up there. So my dad

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loved watching birds. He would take pictures of him and stuff.

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And my dad goes, he has everything, you know, gathered up.

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He leaves the camper, goes outside. I hear him shut

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the car door because I didn't shut my car door.

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I hear him open up the shed. He comes back around.

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He has a he has a ladder with him and

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like this tube of grease or something. Right. I really

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wasn't sure what it was at first he goes and

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I see him put the ladder up, and then he

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comes in, grabs all the food, climbs up the ladder

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a couple of times, puts the food up there, and

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then what he does is it takes this rag and

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he squirts this grease or whatever on the on this rag,

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and he as high as he could possibly get, he

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just slowly puts grease all over this pole. And I'm

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watching my dad. I'm like, Dad, what are you doing

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that for. He's like, that's to stop anything from getting

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the getting that food. And I go like, what, like,

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like what he is like? Raccoons? I go, oh, okay, okay, raccoons.

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And for the three brief second that made sense to me,

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you know, for a second, it made me stop thinking

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about what we had just seen maybe fifteen twenty minutes earlier.

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So we're laying in bed, and as I'm laying there,

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my dad was a smoker, and he never smoked in

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the camper, but he's outside and I could hear him talking,

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and so I got nosy and I kind of put

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my ear up to the door a little bit, and

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I heard him say something to the fact like, you know,

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we saw you you know you saw us. You know,

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these are just my boys. I just want to make

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a home. Please don't scare them, don't hurt them. We

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don't want to, We don't want any harm. We don't

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mean any harm. Because when my dad was clearing all

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the land, you know, he didn't clear everything. He cleared

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enough space to where he could plant a garden and

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build a home, because that's what he was doing was

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he was cutting some of the trees down so he

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could build like an a frame house. That's what he

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always wanted to build for us. But he did and

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go in and just cut down any tree. He was

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very selective on what he did. My dad was raised

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in Alaska. Family were fishermen and laggers, so my dad

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had a really deep respect for mother nature and animal.

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Whenever he hunted, he always said, you know, make sure

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you think you know, we thank this animal for giving

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up itself, you know, so con feed us and whatnot.

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You know, he was very very mindful. And so my

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dad comes in, I jump it back into bed. I

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hear him coming to the door. I jump back into

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the bed and I go, yeah, well who are you

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talking to He's like, oh, I was praying. I go

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why didn't hear you say amen? So my dad just

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kind of goes amen. You know. So we're laying in bed,

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you know, and I'm like Dad, you know what. He's like,

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Let's not talk about it. You know, everything's gonna be fine.

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Don't worry about it. You know, they're more scared of

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us than we are them. You know, he's getting you know,

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Dad's trying to calm down his son, you know, and

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it's working a little bit, but I'm still, you know,

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I'm still a little frightened. I don't know how long

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I was awake, but I woke up hearing this loud,

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like this loud creak. And when I say creak, I

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meant I hear something step up on the deck. And

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whatever had stepped up on this deck, the boards were

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just growning. It was like a massive amount of weight

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was stepping. With each stepping, you heard him crack and groan.

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And and about that time, where I slept on my

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dad's bed, I'm right against this camp of wall, and

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I heard and felt something run by, and I look

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over my dad and my dad's you know, I'm getting

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ready to say something. My dad puts, you know, puts

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his finger to his lips. He's like, tell me to

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be quiet. And my dad is the one out there,

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and he like shakes his head, you know, and I'm

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looking at him and he puts up three fingers and

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I go, there's three out there, and he's like yeah,

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you know, he did mouths yes. And about that time,

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I hear this vocalization coming from outside, you know, like

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it's kind of like the samurai chatter. I'm not gonna

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try to imitate it because I'm gonna butcher it, but

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so I kind of heard that and I looked at

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my dad, and my dad's chill, chill, still telling me to,

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you know, be quiet. And that's when I noticed my

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dad had a gun resting on his chest. And I'm like,

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I'm thinking, you know, now, I'm now as as a

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fifty you know, fifty two year old almost fifty three

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year old man, I'm thinking, Number one, my dad's handgun

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was not going to stop one of these things. Number Two,

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if they wanted to get it, this is all they

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had to do was rip that door right off that camper.

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There's no stop in one of these things if they

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wanted to get at me, right, so, I must have

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dozed off I wake up. We had the the curtain

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on the on the camper door. It was cracked a

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little bit. Sunlight was shining through, and as it woke

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me up, well, I jumped up real quick, jumped over.

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My dad flew open the door, and I'm looking around

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and I'm looking and I did something I knew I

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wasn't supposed to do, but I did it. And I

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climbed up on the on the banister, you know, the

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the the railing of the of the deck. Climbed up

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where I could see higher up on and all the

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food was gone. Every single thing my dad proke there

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was gone. I looked around, there was nothing on the ground. Nothing.

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I go and I look at the pole and you

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could see where something had grabbed the pole. It was

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a massive hand and you could tell a massive hand

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had grabbed this pole. And then it looked like from

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as high up as it could reach was almost to

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the very very top of where this little metal platform was,

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there was like a line from there all the way

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down where something had taken its finger and just rubbed

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it all the way down. It must have got a

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ton of grease or whatever it was on its finger,

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but you could tell where it just ran his finger down.

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So I run into the house record on his camp

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real quick. I'm my dad, Dad, Dad, all the food's gone,

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All the food's gone thing. He's like what, I go,

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all the food's gone. They took the food. They took

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the food, and you know, my dad told me to

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kind of keep it down. My dad goes out, looks,

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we look around. I don't recall ever seeing any any

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prints around that at that time, and so my dad

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would go out walking around, look over at the shed

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and stuff. Don't see anything. About that time. My little

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brother comes out and you know, hear us talk and

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he's like, you know, oh, what are you gonna talking about?

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I said there was a big foot, and my dad

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got mad because I, you know, set bigfoot. My brother's like, oh,

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he goes, yeah, I've seen a couple of small ones

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hanging around, you know, when we play our music, and

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like what He's like, yeah, he goes whenever we bring

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the radio out and we play music, you'll play tape

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or whatever. While out there playing, I see two small ones.

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They go to the tree line over there, and he's

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pointing over to an area where my dad already cleared

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and in that area, we'd built a tree fort, and

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my brother goes, yeah, they like to hang out over

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there and listen to listen to the music, and he goes.

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I remember going over to the tree fort one day

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and I saw something jump out of the tree fort

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and run off into the woods. And I thought it

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was just a little boy, but it was it was

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too big to be a little boy. So that was

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that siding that I had now previously, before that siding,

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this happened probably, I want to say, well maybe February

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timeframe when this happened. We had a storm come through

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and the thunder lightning rain. I mean, it was just

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it was a terrible thunderstorm and for some reason I

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just could not fall asleep. So I'm laying on my

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back and this huge bang of thunder hits and this

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this bright flash of lightning, and no sooner did that

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lightning disappear. It felt like our camper was being pushed

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over on its side. Something hit the camper super super

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hard enough where it felt like it was tipping the

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camper onto its side. And when it fell back down,

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I immediately pulled open this little curtain, little shade that

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we had and I looked out, and when I looked out,

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I saw this this flat lightning hit and it lit

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up the whole area, and I saw something walking, not running,

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but walking and walked underneath this this tree where this

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branch was hanging out, and walked off into the woods.

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And you know, I told my dad, you know, my

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brother was asleep. My dad. I woke my dad up.

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My dad says, we'll look in the morning, and my

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dad it was. It was a GD bigfoot. He's like,

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stop saying that. I go, Dad, it was a GD bigfoot.

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He's like, stop saying that. I go, Okay, it was

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a bigfoot. And I was very adamant that's what I saw.

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But again I wasn't really one hundred percent certain at

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that time. And again this happened before I saw my sighting.

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And so we went out the next morning and we're

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looking around and it had rained, so people could have

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just taken a fire hose and just spread the whole

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whole ground. That's how much rain it looked like it fell.

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Turn around. We looked at the camper and about six

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and a half maybe seven feet up there was a

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huge dent in the side of our camper where like

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something had ran as hard as it could and like

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put shoulder into it or use both hands to try

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to push it over. It hit the camper so hard

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that some of the anchor straps were pulled completely out

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of the ground. Some of the cement blocks that were

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the camper was on had been crushed, had been you know,

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broken and things. And my brother comes out of here's

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this talking and he's like, you know what happened? What

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you know? You guys are saying something hit the camp

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and my dad goes, A branch hit the camper. It's like,

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oh okay. So that was like the very first you know,

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at that time that I understood, you know, this is

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what I saw, This is what you know, this is what's.

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Going on, Daniel. That is just absolutely wild for content

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for the listeners. So this takes place in Pierce County, which,

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if we're going by the BFRO, I believe has the

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highest number of publicly available Pierce County has its gig

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Harbor all the way over to Mount Rainier National Park

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and you're there kind of in the middle of it.

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So you've got a lot.

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Of action going on, a ton of action. YEP.

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Had a few questions. Vitoria definitely go ahead, No, no, go ahead.

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Remind me again.

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So the initial sighting where there was the female bigfoot

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by the side of the road, how far away from

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your camper was that again?

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Maybe maybe two hundred and fifty yards maybe, man, maybe

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two hundred.

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Wow.

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I know you said you were about twelve years old,

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so it's it's been a while. But I mean, do

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you remember any any details of what you were able

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to see? I mean you said you saw the face

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for a little bit, correct.

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Yeah, yeah, absolutely well. She she had a like a

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slight conical head huge bridge high bridge, you know, bridge brow,

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a flat nose. Her skin was black. Her color of

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her hair, I want to say, was like a dark

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like charcoal almost black. Yeah, that's I mean. She didn't

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show me her teeth. She had ears kind of like

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almost like a chimp kind of but not. And yeah, dude,

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she was massive. Man, she was just huge. She was

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probably a good seven and a half feet tall, just massive.

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I had to guess weight. I'm saying probably four hundred

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and fifty five hundred pounds. Maybe she was massive.

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Would you be able to estimate if you were looking

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at how wide across the shoulders were?

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M Probably four and a half maybe four and a

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half feet wide at the shoulders maybe five. She was big, man,

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She was big. And the funny thing is is I

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honestly believe that there was a family. And you know

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some people may say, well, you know, they don't travel

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in families, Yes, they do. This was a family unit.

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And the reason I say that is the one that

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hit the camper, I want to say, was like an

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adolescent male. You're like, maybe like a late teens, early twenties.

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Then there was two juveniles my brother had seen. I

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never saw him, and then there was one big male

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that I just caught glimpses of. It was never something, oh,

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look there he is, you know, but what he was

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kind of like in the area, and you knew what

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he was in the area because I just got this feeling.

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Have been plenty times my brother and I were out

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and had our tree fort hanging out and my brother

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just looked at him. He's like, we got to go

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back to the house. I'm like, yeah, we gotta go.

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It just the whole air just changed. Now when the

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female was around, never had that. When that like the

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the atl or the i'll call him the teenage or

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the young adult, the young adult never really felt that,

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but when the big male was around, things just changed.

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And I remember at times I looked out in the

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window of our tree fort and I'd see something move

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back behind a tree, and what I saw was a

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bigger than the female, massive by the female, And I

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don't understand why he would hide behind some of these trees,

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because he was wider than these trees. He easily had

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to be five and a half almost six feet wide across.

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I mean, well, I met, I might be exaggerating that,

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but I'm telling you, Jeremiah, this dude was massive, but

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he was never aggressive towards me. I never encountered him

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being aggressive. He just I think he was just around

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just to make sure we didn't we didn't screw off

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and do something.

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Stupid, you know, right, Yeah, absolutely.

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And I think him. I think the father and the

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mother the female that I saw, I think they kept

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that young adult in check because if they weren't around,

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there's no doubt in my mind. I want to say

455
00:24:19.359 --> 00:24:21.960
that young adult would easily have just been tormenting us

456
00:24:22.000 --> 00:24:22.680
the entire time.

457
00:24:24.279 --> 00:24:27.799
Wow, I don't get to talk to a lot of

458
00:24:27.839 --> 00:24:31.240
people about female big foot sightings. Was it similar to

459
00:24:32.279 --> 00:24:35.640
Patty at all or was it a completely different thing.

460
00:24:37.160 --> 00:24:39.680
I want to say similar. I want to say probably

461
00:24:39.720 --> 00:24:43.440
about seventy five to maybe eighty five percent similar to Patty.

462
00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:49.079
Like the girth, because Patty's she was girthy. You know,

463
00:24:49.359 --> 00:24:53.839
she had matt and so did this one. She had

464
00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:56.519
mass And again, it wasn't the first time that I

465
00:24:56.559 --> 00:24:58.359
saw her. It wasn't like the only time I saw her.

466
00:24:58.559 --> 00:25:03.240
My dad, you know, he helped me and my brother

467
00:25:03.319 --> 00:25:07.079
build a two seater go kart that we you know,

468
00:25:07.119 --> 00:25:10.160
we had off like these off road wheels on, and

469
00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:12.839
we would we would just drive all over the place,

470
00:25:13.119 --> 00:25:17.039
right And there'd be times where I'd be flying by

471
00:25:17.279 --> 00:25:19.559
and my brother he'd look behind. He goes, she's looking

472
00:25:19.599 --> 00:25:23.880
at us, and I whip around real quick. I kind

473
00:25:23.880 --> 00:25:25.799
of snapped my head around. I see her, just catch

474
00:25:25.799 --> 00:25:27.480
a glimpse of her. She would like look out of

475
00:25:27.559 --> 00:25:33.079
the woods just to see what we were doing. But

476
00:25:33.559 --> 00:25:37.079
never never met I mean, we never had rocks or

477
00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:40.160
sticks or anything thrown at us while we were there.

478
00:25:40.440 --> 00:25:43.519
We did hear, you know, we did hear whoops, We

479
00:25:43.559 --> 00:25:48.640
did hear whistles. I remember we heard this owl one time. Bobby,

480
00:25:48.680 --> 00:25:50.319
did you hear. My little brother's name was Bobby, and

481
00:25:50.319 --> 00:25:52.599
I'm like, Bobby's you hear that owl? He's like, man,

482
00:25:52.680 --> 00:25:55.279
that owl that doesn't sound like an owl. But you know,

483
00:25:55.799 --> 00:25:58.039
we heard things like that in the area. I mean,

484
00:25:58.559 --> 00:26:01.319
there were porcupine in the air, there were coyotes in

485
00:26:01.359 --> 00:26:06.519
the area, there were deer in the area, rabbits, squirrels,

486
00:26:06.519 --> 00:26:09.319
that type of stuff. There's also a couple of houses

487
00:26:09.359 --> 00:26:11.720
in the area, but they weren't super close to us,

488
00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:14.039
so we had to like go through the woods as

489
00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:17.640
a shortcut or go back down the gravel road then

490
00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:20.920
turn off one of these little tinier roads to go

491
00:26:21.079 --> 00:26:24.119
to this you know, people's house. And I remember one

492
00:26:24.160 --> 00:26:26.680
day I was goofing off in the woods and I

493
00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:30.880
ran into this kid about might say maybe maybe nine

494
00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:35.160
or ten years old, okay, and I'm like, oh, where

495
00:26:35.200 --> 00:26:36.799
do you live. He's like, I'll live right over here.

496
00:26:36.839 --> 00:26:38.880
You know, my dad knows you guys moving in over here,

497
00:26:38.920 --> 00:26:41.319
and you want to come over to my house. I'm like, yeah,

498
00:26:41.359 --> 00:26:42.720
you know, And I said, real quick, I gotta go

499
00:26:42.759 --> 00:26:45.480
tell my dad, and he goes, I'll come with you.

500
00:26:46.480 --> 00:26:48.680
So we go running over to my house and my

501
00:26:48.759 --> 00:26:51.920
dad dad, I found a friend he lives over here

502
00:26:51.960 --> 00:26:53.519
through the woods, and I was like, my Dad's like, oh,

503
00:26:53.559 --> 00:26:55.519
that's great. You know, just be careful when you're out there,

504
00:26:55.599 --> 00:26:58.119
you know, don't do thing dumb. You know, don't be stupid.

505
00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:01.960
And so, you know, I'd go over there quite a

506
00:27:01.960 --> 00:27:05.079
bit of times. And one thing that I thought was

507
00:27:05.079 --> 00:27:08.440
really super cool about his house is that his dad

508
00:27:08.599 --> 00:27:12.960
had this giant rabbit hutch. This rabbit hutch was mass

509
00:27:13.039 --> 00:27:16.720
we could have been like a little fort, like seriously,

510
00:27:16.759 --> 00:27:19.160
And what was really cool about this hutch is that

511
00:27:19.680 --> 00:27:22.319
the front of it had like these double doors that

512
00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:26.000
had this locked. He had to slide like a bolt.

513
00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:28.279
You'd slide the bolt over and then and then lock

514
00:27:28.359 --> 00:27:33.519
it down. And then you had two other locking mechanisms

515
00:27:33.519 --> 00:27:35.880
that you lifted, like the front part of the roof

516
00:27:36.039 --> 00:27:38.720
of the hutch up and it would like lock into place.

517
00:27:39.160 --> 00:27:40.640
So if you wanted to go in there and clean

518
00:27:40.680 --> 00:27:45.799
everything out, you had easy access, right Well. I remember

519
00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:49.880
one day I'd come over to my friends and me

520
00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:55.119
and my brother we come running up the driveway and

521
00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:59.440
I see his dad come walking around from the back

522
00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:03.039
of the house and he's just livid. He's like, I

523
00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:07.000
don't get it. Why would someone do this? So we're

524
00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:09.480
thinking that our friend is out there in the backyard,

525
00:28:09.519 --> 00:28:11.880
so we go run alongside the house while his dad

526
00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:21.319
goes into the garage and Jeremiah something had manipulated the locks,

527
00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:29.039
ripped the doors off, and killed every single rabbit. Who

528
00:28:31.079 --> 00:28:34.319
And when I say killed them, he goes. I remember

529
00:28:34.359 --> 00:28:41.920
his dad distinctively saying, they're all here, but why And

530
00:28:42.200 --> 00:28:45.000
when he asked that question, this is why he asked

531
00:28:45.000 --> 00:28:49.200
that question. Some of them are ripped apart. Some of

532
00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:53.039
them just had their heads ripped off. He had like

533
00:28:53.440 --> 00:28:57.119
twenty rabbits, thirty rabbits maybe in there, and all the

534
00:28:57.200 --> 00:29:02.359
rabbits were accounted for, but they just all heads popped off,

535
00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:06.359
ripped in half, you know, either side, you know, like

536
00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:08.720
grabbed from the head in the bottom and just pulled apart,

537
00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:10.720
or grab by the back legs and ripped in half

538
00:29:10.759 --> 00:29:14.200
that way. Just all of them mutilated and just left

539
00:29:14.200 --> 00:29:16.359
there like someone was doing it just to have a

540
00:29:16.359 --> 00:29:20.559
good time. And that's probably the scariest thing that that's

541
00:29:20.599 --> 00:29:23.440
that happened to that location. Like I said, it was

542
00:29:23.440 --> 00:29:25.559
probably maybe a quarter of a mile half a mile

543
00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:28.880
from where we were to the road, something like that,

544
00:29:28.960 --> 00:29:32.359
and we would have to walk up to the to

545
00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:35.119
the main road where there was a street light. That's

546
00:29:35.160 --> 00:29:38.359
where our bus picked us up. And there'd be times

547
00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:40.519
we'd have to get up, like four o'clock in the morning,

548
00:29:40.599 --> 00:29:43.319
four thirty to get up to the bus stop, because

549
00:29:43.319 --> 00:29:45.519
the bus cat came around like a five point fifteen

550
00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:47.599
and this is a rural area, so it had a

551
00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:49.559
big route, and so by the time we got to

552
00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:52.160
school it was like seven thirty, So we had like

553
00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:56.720
a two hour bus ride sometimes. And I remember pitch black,

554
00:29:57.480 --> 00:30:01.839
darkest darkest can be. And we were not walking down

555
00:30:01.880 --> 00:30:05.640
that gravel road. We were running down that gravel road.

556
00:30:06.039 --> 00:30:08.440
And there would be times where we knew and we

557
00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:13.480
heard something pacing us on either side of us until

558
00:30:13.480 --> 00:30:15.400
we got up to where the edge of that light was.

559
00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:17.400
As soon as we walked into how that where that

560
00:30:17.519 --> 00:30:20.319
light shine was from that street light, that's when they

561
00:30:20.359 --> 00:30:26.119
stopped and then we get on the bus. So yeah,

562
00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:28.240
and but we only stayed in that property for about

563
00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:31.079
a year, maybe a little over a year. My dad

564
00:30:31.079 --> 00:30:34.240
had been involved in a very really, really bad car accident.

565
00:30:34.279 --> 00:30:38.039
He was almost killed, so we had to move back

566
00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:40.839
to Tacoma and move in with my aunt and uncle,

567
00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:44.599
and it was almost a full year by time we

568
00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:47.160
went back out to that property. You know, everything was

569
00:30:47.160 --> 00:30:49.839
all blocked up and stuff. And when we went there

570
00:30:50.599 --> 00:30:54.759
just to grab the rest of our stuff, because it

571
00:30:54.799 --> 00:30:56.680
was in October that my dad had that accident, So

572
00:30:56.720 --> 00:30:58.279
it was probably not in not a year, I'm sorry,

573
00:30:58.279 --> 00:31:01.839
not a year. It's probably that next ring. I walked

574
00:31:01.880 --> 00:31:06.839
around the camper and it looked like something was looking

575
00:31:06.880 --> 00:31:11.119
even how you cut your hands over your eyes on

576
00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:14.039
the side of your eyes to try to look into something. Yeah,

577
00:31:14.079 --> 00:31:17.200
it looks like every single one of the windows you

578
00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:19.640
saw that print, and you could see where like a

579
00:31:19.759 --> 00:31:22.279
nose was pushed up against like something was trying to

580
00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:25.799
look in the windows, and especially the windows where my

581
00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:28.839
brother and I's beds were, because that was a good

582
00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:33.400
maybe seven feet off the ground and there's eyes looking

583
00:31:33.680 --> 00:31:35.920
and trying to look through the curtain that was there.

584
00:31:36.079 --> 00:31:39.880
But every window had multiple like prints like that.

585
00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:47.759
So but yeah, yeah, and that was in the early

586
00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:48.680
to mid eighties.

587
00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:50.519
You were saying eighty.

588
00:31:50.279 --> 00:31:52.640
Four, right, yeah, early, yeah, yeah, eighty four.

589
00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:53.640
Did I.

590
00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:58.680
At any point did your dad ever try to talk

591
00:31:58.759 --> 00:32:01.119
to the cops about what was going on or is

592
00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:03.680
kind of like we can handle it ourselves.

593
00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:06.720
Or well seem like I said, my dad was raised

594
00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:10.000
up in Alaska, So my dad's head had encountered with

595
00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:12.680
things up in Alaska. To the day that he died.

596
00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:15.079
He still swears, you know, he swore to the day

597
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:18.319
that he died that he saw werewolf. My dad encountered

598
00:32:18.359 --> 00:32:23.200
the Kushtaka on two occasions while he was up in Alaska.

599
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:26.400
So my dad, you know, my dad believed, you know

600
00:32:26.519 --> 00:32:29.599
that as long as we weren't doing anything aggressive, but

601
00:32:29.640 --> 00:32:33.640
we weren't doing anything disrespectful, that they wouldn't really mess

602
00:32:33.680 --> 00:32:35.440
with this. And there was times where my dad would

603
00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:37.960
put other things up like smoke salmon. He'd put that

604
00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:41.200
up there, and he'd always do the same thing. He'd

605
00:32:41.240 --> 00:32:43.759
always grease that pole so nothing else can climb up

606
00:32:43.799 --> 00:32:46.720
that pole and get it and it'd be gone. And

607
00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:50.200
there'd be times where we'd have like, well, my brother

608
00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:52.839
found a dead squirrel sitting up there. There would be

609
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:56.319
times where we'd have like rocks up there, or a marble.

610
00:32:56.400 --> 00:33:00.839
There's a marble up there for some reason. So berries, uh,

611
00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:05.640
there would be huckleberries up there, blackberries, raspberries, Yeah, just

612
00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:07.920
sitting up there. Wow.

613
00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:11.079
So there was maybe a little bit of a gifting

614
00:33:11.160 --> 00:33:13.200
situation going on there in a way.

615
00:33:14.400 --> 00:33:17.519
Yeah, probably if my brother said at times he'd thrown

616
00:33:17.599 --> 00:33:20.519
like a ball because he knew they were sitting he

617
00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:22.759
knew the juveniles were sitting out out in the woods

618
00:33:23.079 --> 00:33:25.680
watching us. So my brother be out there goofing off,

619
00:33:25.680 --> 00:33:28.079
and he would live on purpose, throw a ball out there,

620
00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:33.559
and we never see it again, never see it.

621
00:33:33.559 --> 00:33:37.240
Again, No, I bet not. You would definitely not see

622
00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:39.480
it again. Did you ever talk to your dad about

623
00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:41.880
this when you were an adult or when you were older?

624
00:33:43.000 --> 00:33:49.240
Oh? Yeah, oh see, this is this is the thing

625
00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:55.200
with my dad. My dad. My dad believed my dad. No,

626
00:33:55.640 --> 00:33:58.559
my dad knew, I mean, and we would talk about

627
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:00.799
it and it would be the same thing, you know, Daniel,

628
00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:05.279
you know, you know what you saw, you know what

629
00:34:05.319 --> 00:34:09.199
you saw, you know, And and then I got to

630
00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:14.920
asking him because you know, I'd start having these these

631
00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:19.039
memories also come back to me and stuff. And I remember,

632
00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:24.119
like when I was like seven, seven or eight, my dad,

633
00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:27.440
my dad loved to hunt and there was this place

634
00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:33.760
up around I want to say, north northeast of Aberdeen,

635
00:34:35.239 --> 00:34:38.800
and we called it the Hunting Camp. Right. Well, my

636
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:41.000
dad we went to this hunting camp and we went

637
00:34:41.039 --> 00:34:46.280
and we weren't hunting. Well, I wasn't hunting. My dad

638
00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:49.000
was hunting. And he goes, you want to go hunt

639
00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:50.880
with me? And I'm like sure. He goes, well, we

640
00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:52.400
have to get up early. We're gonna sit in the

641
00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:54.880
deer stand. And I'm like okay. And I was unusual

642
00:34:54.920 --> 00:34:57.239
for my dad. My dad never really hunted from a

643
00:34:57.280 --> 00:34:59.719
deer stand. He'd always be on the ground and he

644
00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:03.119
would normally track, you know, what he wanted to hunt

645
00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:06.360
and then do what, you know, do what he did.

646
00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:11.119
And I remember we went up had camp. The next

647
00:35:11.159 --> 00:35:13.960
day we went out and he goes, he come up

648
00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:15.559
in this, you know, come up here. This is our

649
00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:19.840
deer stand. And the deer stand overlooked this trail, but

650
00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:21.679
there was also a couple of game trails that came

651
00:35:21.920 --> 00:35:25.119
that came off of it went underneath the deer stand

652
00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:27.800
and then up into the woods behind the deer stand.

653
00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:34.559
And my dad goes at, you know, at night there

654
00:35:34.679 --> 00:35:37.159
they come out of the woods from here, they do

655
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:38.760
what they do down here, and then when it starts

656
00:35:38.800 --> 00:35:41.079
getting light again, they're gonna come back up this path.

657
00:35:41.320 --> 00:35:44.320
This deer. You know this this this animal path or whatever,

658
00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:48.000
and they'll go back up into the woods and they'll

659
00:35:48.039 --> 00:35:50.039
bed down for the day because then they know people

660
00:35:50.039 --> 00:35:52.760
were out and about. They don't you know, that's where

661
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:56.039
they're gonna lay low. Because I had asked him, why

662
00:35:56.079 --> 00:35:57.880
are we not looking at the woods, he goes and

663
00:35:57.880 --> 00:36:00.719
he gave me that reason. So he gets me up

664
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:03.079
to the deer stand. You know, we have a picks

665
00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:06.079
his rifle, hoists his rifle up with with a rope

666
00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:08.039
and we're sitting up in there, and it was a

667
00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:12.880
homemade deer stand. It's big enough for two people. And

668
00:36:12.920 --> 00:36:15.599
my dad starts looking through his little back his little napsacks,

669
00:36:15.599 --> 00:36:19.599
a little backpack. He's like, oh, I forgot something. We

670
00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:24.440
were baby, I don't know, half a mile away from

671
00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:28.639
the camp and he's like, stay here, it'll be fine.

672
00:36:29.400 --> 00:36:32.199
I'm gonna run down to the camp get what I need,

673
00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:35.079
and I'll be right back up. I'm like, okay, no

674
00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:37.039
big deal. I'm like seven, eight years old. I'm not

675
00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:41.119
scared of anything. I'm not worried about anything. Right, So

676
00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:46.039
even in later life, I did this when I went hunting,

677
00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:49.880
I started dozing off. Now I'm getting comfortable, and I've

678
00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:53.800
got my left leg stretched out and it's kind of

679
00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:55.599
hanging off to the side a little bit of the

680
00:36:55.599 --> 00:36:59.760
deer stand, and I filled this tug on my boot

681
00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:02.920
and it kind of kind of wakes me up, and

682
00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:06.519
it's not quite light yet, and so I look and

683
00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:12.360
my boot's untied, and I'm looking around and I'm like, oh, man,

684
00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:16.400
I must have twitched, and you know what, my dad

685
00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:19.400
might be messing with me. So I reached down, I

686
00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:22.480
tie my boot up again, and I'm watching, you know,

687
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:25.599
looking around. All sudden I start nodding off again, and

688
00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:27.760
just as I get ready out off boom, I fill

689
00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:31.599
my tug on my boot again, and I look down

690
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:33.840
and my boot's untied again, and I'm like, Dad, knock

691
00:37:33.880 --> 00:37:38.280
it off, you know. And so go and I go

692
00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:40.239
and I tie my boot up again, and now this

693
00:37:40.280 --> 00:37:42.480
time I'm watching my boot. I'm like, okay, I'm gonna

694
00:37:42.480 --> 00:37:44.360
see if it's my dad messed with me, because maybe

695
00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:46.400
you know, he saw me nod now, or I saw

696
00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:49.119
me sleeping and he snuck up and now he's messing

697
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:52.559
with me. Well, I hear this noise off to the

698
00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:54.920
right of me, and when I look over to see

699
00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:58.360
what it was. And I'm looking. I fill another tug

700
00:37:58.400 --> 00:38:02.559
of my boot and my boot is untied, and now

701
00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:07.960
I'm I'm mad, but I'm also I'm scared. And about

702
00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:10.719
that time, I see my dad walking up the path

703
00:38:11.679 --> 00:38:13.719
and I'm like, Dad, real funny, real funny. He's like,

704
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:15.760
what are you talking about? I go, Dad, you'n tied

705
00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:18.760
my boot. He's like, son, I didn't untie your boot.

706
00:38:18.840 --> 00:38:21.199
I go, Dad, you dig you'll tie my boot three

707
00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:26.440
times and he's like, son, I'm coming up from the camp.

708
00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:30.320
There's no way in this whole thing transpired about thirty

709
00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:34.400
forty five minutes maybe tops right, And I'm like, Dad,

710
00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:36.039
you untie my boot. I know you did. I know

711
00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:39.559
it was you. You snuck around. He goes, Son, I didn't,

712
00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:41.920
I go, Dad, you just untied it. You made a noise.

713
00:38:42.519 --> 00:38:45.880
He goes where I go over there, and so he's okay,

714
00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:49.280
he's stay put. So he goes and he starts looking

715
00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:52.960
around and I'm watching him. He's doing like a circle pattern,

716
00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:55.719
like a search, and he gets up to the woods

717
00:38:55.760 --> 00:38:58.119
behind the stand and he kneels down. He looks at

718
00:38:58.159 --> 00:39:01.719
something and I see my dad immediately take his rifle

719
00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:03.920
and put his rifle to ready. He like grabs his

720
00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:08.320
strap and he pulls it and tied into his shoulder.

721
00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:11.360
And my dad's a Vietnam Vet. My dad was a hunter,

722
00:39:11.440 --> 00:39:14.000
first Airborne. He was an EOD specialist. He was a

723
00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:16.920
tunnel rat, did a lot of point, you know, walking

724
00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:18.719
point when they were on patrol. So my dad was

725
00:39:18.920 --> 00:39:23.199
very very observative things, just super super observant of everything

726
00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:27.000
around him. And I see him bring his rifle to

727
00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:29.880
the ready, and now he's scanning left or right and

728
00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:32.079
then back right to left, and he's like, he's like,

729
00:39:32.239 --> 00:39:34.960
he's like Daniel, get out of the tree right now,

730
00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:37.119
get out of the stand and head back down towards

731
00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:39.199
the camp right now. I'm my dad was going on.

732
00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:41.159
He's like, just go do it now. He's I look

733
00:39:41.199 --> 00:39:43.800
real quick and he's backing up, but he's still facing

734
00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:46.960
the tree line and he goes, just go. He goes,

735
00:39:47.000 --> 00:39:49.400
I'll be right behind you, and he goes, don't walk,

736
00:39:49.519 --> 00:39:52.280
you need to run run down to the camp. So

737
00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:55.199
I'm with everything I got, I'm a hauling button back

738
00:39:55.239 --> 00:39:58.519
down and I stopped every so often, and I see

739
00:39:58.519 --> 00:40:00.559
my dad he's coming back. He'd run. Need to stop

740
00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:02.719
and turn around head scan and he take off runt

741
00:40:02.719 --> 00:40:04.880
and he's like, just go go go. Well, we get

742
00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:06.960
into the camp and we see my uncle come out

743
00:40:06.960 --> 00:40:10.000
of the tent and he's like, Darryl, he goes, what

744
00:40:10.039 --> 00:40:12.760
are you doing? Because like, what do you mean? He goes,

745
00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:14.800
why are you messing with Danielize up in the standing.

746
00:40:14.800 --> 00:40:16.039
He's like, I don't know what you talked about. I

747
00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:19.440
just came back from my stand. He goes. He goes,

748
00:40:19.519 --> 00:40:22.239
it's getting too warm out here. You know, nothing, nothing's

749
00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:25.920
going to be nothing's going to be moving around. So

750
00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:27.679
so he's like, okay, well we just need to go.

751
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:30.119
So they packed up the they packed up the camp

752
00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:32.599
and we left. Now to get to this camp, you

753
00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:34.599
had to drive like an hour and a half two hours,

754
00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:37.719
and he had to hike in for like about another hour,

755
00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:40.679
I want to say. And the second time we went

756
00:40:40.719 --> 00:40:44.320
to the camp, we had my dad, my uncle who's

757
00:40:44.320 --> 00:40:48.280
also a Vietnam Vet, his neighbor or friend named Frenchie

758
00:40:48.280 --> 00:40:51.400
who was also a Vietnam Vet. Two of his neighbors,

759
00:40:51.800 --> 00:40:54.079
so he had five adults, and he had me and

760
00:40:54.119 --> 00:40:57.519
my brother, and then each one of the neighbors brought

761
00:40:57.519 --> 00:40:59.360
one of their sons so he had four kids and

762
00:40:59.360 --> 00:41:02.480
five adults. We had this giant canvas tent. I was

763
00:41:02.480 --> 00:41:05.400
like an army tent that you could sleep like ten

764
00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:09.519
fifteen people in comfortably, and normally you'd have like a

765
00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:12.239
like a little woodbirding stove in the middle of this.

766
00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:15.960
That's how big this tent was. You had to bring

767
00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:19.440
everything in on like deer sleds or whatever. So everybody

768
00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:22.559
was carrying backpacks whatever they could. The kids didn't really

769
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:25.000
carry a lot. The adults pulled all these you know,

770
00:41:25.039 --> 00:41:27.280
these sleds. They had everything packed down. They're real neat

771
00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:30.159
went in there, set everything up, you know. My uncle

772
00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:32.239
was like, hey, who wants to use some fishing? You know,

773
00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:34.079
we were fishing down in the stream that was close

774
00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:36.239
to the hunting camp. You could see, you know, it

775
00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:38.440
was like a rocky kind of like a small pebble,

776
00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:42.960
but sandy like beach, and the the part of the

777
00:41:43.000 --> 00:41:46.079
stream was right in front was really slow movie, so

778
00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:48.400
it was a good place to go swimming or fishing

779
00:41:48.440 --> 00:41:50.760
if you wanted to. My uncle said, he do you

780
00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:53.360
want to shoot? Shoot some guns? That's where I first

781
00:41:53.360 --> 00:41:56.239
shot a Rugo Super black Hawk forty four magnum. I

782
00:41:56.280 --> 00:41:58.559
was nine years old. When that happened, it took us

783
00:41:58.559 --> 00:42:00.639
about fifteen minutes to find the gun because it flipped

784
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:04.079
over my head when I shot it. Amazing time. They

785
00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:06.760
were shooting twenty twos and just having a good time.

786
00:42:06.800 --> 00:42:10.000
But when we shot the twenty two's, we heard this

787
00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:13.239
loud like yell like I thought it was like a

788
00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:17.599
bear roar way off in the distance right, and didn't

789
00:42:17.599 --> 00:42:19.519
think anything of it. So, you know, we caught fish,

790
00:42:19.559 --> 00:42:21.800
we ate. You know, we cleaned up all of our

791
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:26.800
food stuffs were in bags and hanging up in a tree,

792
00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:30.480
probably about fifteen feet up into a tree over a limb.

793
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:33.000
And you know, my dad had my uncle and my

794
00:42:33.079 --> 00:42:36.239
dad had tied him off real well. And my uncle

795
00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:38.960
was in the navy and he rode on those patrol

796
00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:42.960
boats up and down the MAEcon Delta. He was like

797
00:42:43.000 --> 00:42:47.400
the front gunner. So they had like twin fifty cows

798
00:42:47.480 --> 00:42:50.280
or twin sixty or something, so that's what his job was.

799
00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:53.760
So again this is another person who's really really observant,

800
00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:55.920
has to keen eye looking for stuff. French. She was

801
00:42:55.920 --> 00:42:58.719
a psycho, but he was also a Vietnam vett. And

802
00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:02.599
these guys we had three bona FID Warriors with us.

803
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:05.119
We didn't really worry about nothing. So the first night

804
00:43:05.199 --> 00:43:07.920
everything went by, you know, pretty cool, no big deal.

805
00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:12.639
Hurt some something moving around around the camp and we're like,

806
00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:15.119
you know what was that. I'm thinking it's a bear.

807
00:43:15.199 --> 00:43:18.519
No big deal. Second day goes out, you know, they

808
00:43:18.559 --> 00:43:20.639
see some tracks and stuff. I see him talking about.

809
00:43:20.679 --> 00:43:22.519
I'm not thinking anything about. I think what I see

810
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:25.519
their bear tracks? No big deal. So you know, we're

811
00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:27.840
goofing off again the next you know that that second day,

812
00:43:27.840 --> 00:43:29.079
we're supposed to be out this for like four or

813
00:43:29.119 --> 00:43:32.000
five days. We're out there goofing off, fish and swimming,

814
00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:35.920
shooting bb you know, twenty two's again and this time

815
00:43:36.039 --> 00:43:38.119
my dad and my uncle they split us up and

816
00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:41.440
they wanted to show us the land. Hey, you know,

817
00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:44.000
if you guys ever lost, you find something like this,

818
00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:45.679
you know you can do this with it. You can

819
00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:47.679
do here. If you get lost, you stay put where

820
00:43:47.719 --> 00:43:49.159
you are, you know you can use this to make

821
00:43:49.159 --> 00:43:51.159
a noise. They're they're trying to show us some type

822
00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:53.280
of survivals. They want us to have a good time,

823
00:43:53.280 --> 00:43:57.239
but they want us to learn something. And so a

824
00:43:57.320 --> 00:43:59.800
second date, we're shooting, we're shooting again, and this time

825
00:43:59.840 --> 00:44:02.280
we here not like a bear roar, but we hear

826
00:44:02.360 --> 00:44:06.840
like a howl, but like with a scream attached to it.

827
00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:10.360
And it was closer this time. Wasn't often it is

828
00:44:10.360 --> 00:44:15.639
that this is closer. So I noticed the adults looking

829
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:18.639
around and they're like, hey, you guys are getting late.

830
00:44:18.679 --> 00:44:20.760
You know, let's have some dinner. So we we ate

831
00:44:20.840 --> 00:44:24.800
some dinner again, cleaned up, put everything up, and we're

832
00:44:24.880 --> 00:44:32.320
laying down. And how we all slept was the two

833
00:44:32.440 --> 00:44:37.159
neighbors and Frenchy were sleeping. If you're looking directly at

834
00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:39.199
the tent, they're sleeping on the left hand side of

835
00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:42.840
the tent, and the two neighbors, the two neighbors their

836
00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:46.119
sons are sleeping with them. And then it's me. It's

837
00:44:46.159 --> 00:44:50.599
my dad, me, my brother, and my uncle on the

838
00:44:50.599 --> 00:44:55.159
other side on the right hand side. And now we

839
00:44:55.320 --> 00:45:01.840
hear a lot of movement outside. We hear footsteps, we

840
00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:05.159
hear scuffling. We hear some something getting into some of

841
00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:08.079
the stuff that we have left out. It's nothing like food, ornything.

842
00:45:08.119 --> 00:45:13.079
It's just like pans and and you know, chairs or whatnot,

843
00:45:13.119 --> 00:45:15.960
and the stuff's moving around. We hear like like murmuring

844
00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:21.519
like a you know, something like like talking, and then

845
00:45:21.559 --> 00:45:23.840
we hear something and I can fill it with each

846
00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:29.400
step walking around the tent. And when I look up,

847
00:45:29.880 --> 00:45:32.599
I see my dad as wide awake, and he's got

848
00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:36.239
his rifle. He had had a Marlin letter Action thirty

849
00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:41.159
thirty rifle. Frenchy was up. The other two guys were up,

850
00:45:41.320 --> 00:45:43.239
and my uncle were up, and they were all carrying

851
00:45:43.840 --> 00:45:46.840
either I had a handgun, a higher high caliber handgun

852
00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:51.519
or a rifle. And I'm watching my dad and my

853
00:45:51.639 --> 00:45:56.360
Dad is following whatever's walking around the tent as he's

854
00:45:56.400 --> 00:45:58.840
as he's going by, he's following it with his with

855
00:45:58.920 --> 00:46:02.000
his rifle frenching and my uncle or sitting in the

856
00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:05.000
middle of the tent, one's face in the front flap

857
00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:07.639
and one's face in the back flap. And if anything

858
00:46:07.760 --> 00:46:09.559
was gonna come through that they were in trouble because

859
00:46:09.559 --> 00:46:11.800
those two were unloaded on them right. The other boys

860
00:46:11.840 --> 00:46:15.000
are sleeping, and I'm wondering what's going on. So I

861
00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:17.000
go to ask my dad a question. I'm trying to

862
00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:19.599
whisper to him, and about that time I hear something

863
00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:22.800
run by, but as it ran by, it sounded like

864
00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:31.599
claws raked across the whole side of the canvas tent

865
00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:34.320
and then over on the other side of the campas

866
00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:37.039
tip like, so it ran around holding his left arm

867
00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:40.599
out and his hand out and just raking its claws

868
00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:43.280
all the way around the tent. And then after it

869
00:46:43.360 --> 00:46:46.679
did that, it was silent like there was nothing else

870
00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:54.320
going on. It just got as silent as a morgue again.

871
00:46:54.840 --> 00:46:57.400
I could. I'm doing everything I can not to start screaming.

872
00:46:57.480 --> 00:46:59.920
My dad is holding me. He's got his hand over

873
00:47:00.119 --> 00:47:04.320
my mouth, so I wouldn't scream. I didn't go to

874
00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:06.880
sleep For the rest of the night, it seemed like

875
00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:11.239
it was forever until sunlight came out. Birds started chirping.

876
00:47:12.320 --> 00:47:15.239
I watched Frenchie and my dad and my uncle or

877
00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:17.639
my Frenchy and my uncle and the other two guys

878
00:47:17.719 --> 00:47:21.880
leave and alsoden. I hear my uncle, O, Dean, you

879
00:47:21.960 --> 00:47:25.480
gotta come out here and see this. And I beat

880
00:47:25.480 --> 00:47:28.000
my dad outside the tent because if my dad has

881
00:47:28.159 --> 00:47:30.679
gets to see something cool, I want to see something cool, right,

882
00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:35.920
So I go running out and our food bags, there

883
00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:40.440
are three of them. They were all taken out of

884
00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:44.519
the tree. They were open, and anything that was not

885
00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:52.519
a can was gone completely gone. Chairs were messed up.

886
00:47:53.119 --> 00:47:57.480
We found stuff down by the river. Now I'm seeing giant,

887
00:47:57.559 --> 00:48:02.519
like human sized footprints, probably seventeen eighteen nineteen inches long,

888
00:48:03.639 --> 00:48:08.039
all over the place, and my Dad's like, let's go

889
00:48:08.119 --> 00:48:10.519
get the boys up, let's pack up. We're getting out

890
00:48:10.559 --> 00:48:14.599
of here. So as we're getting everything ready, we hear

891
00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:19.159
this scream that came maybe one hundred and fifty two

892
00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:21.719
hundred yards from the side one of the sides. If

893
00:48:21.760 --> 00:48:24.559
I'm thinking, if I remember the right hand side north

894
00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:27.360
southeast west, I couldn't tell you if I'm looking at

895
00:48:27.360 --> 00:48:30.199
the at the lake or at the stream. It's to

896
00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:32.519
our right hand side, the side where the tent is.

897
00:48:33.039 --> 00:48:35.320
It's like about one hundred and fifty two hundred yards away,

898
00:48:35.320 --> 00:48:37.679
and it is loud, and you feel it come through

899
00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:42.920
the trees the scream. No one bothered to pack anything

900
00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:49.199
up neatly. They just threw things on the sleds. People

901
00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:51.960
were grabbing packs that didn't belong to them. And now

902
00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:55.599
we're running, we're taking off. We're going back up again.

903
00:48:55.679 --> 00:48:59.920
This is like an hour hike to this campy spot,

904
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:03.639
to where we parked our trucks. It was my dad's truck,

905
00:49:03.679 --> 00:49:12.000
my uncle's truck, and Frenchy's truck. And when we started

906
00:49:12.039 --> 00:49:16.840
taking off, it was Frenchy in the front, then the

907
00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:20.800
two dads, then the four kids, and then my uncle

908
00:49:20.880 --> 00:49:24.079
Darryl and my dad bringing up the rear. And as

909
00:49:24.119 --> 00:49:26.280
we're going, they're like, you guys gotta go faster, You

910
00:49:26.280 --> 00:49:28.400
guys gotta go faster. Well, my little brother and one

911
00:49:28.400 --> 00:49:32.599
of the other boys were younger than us. They wound

912
00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:35.119
up getting put on one of the sleds, and the

913
00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:39.880
two other adults are just pulling my brother, my brother,

914
00:49:39.960 --> 00:49:42.760
and one of their sons as fast as they can.

915
00:49:43.119 --> 00:49:45.440
I've got my little brother's backpack in front of me.

916
00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:47.599
I've got my backpack on the back of me, and

917
00:49:47.639 --> 00:49:50.079
I'm running with everything I got. I think I'm carrying

918
00:49:50.119 --> 00:49:53.079
something else. I don't really recall what it was, but

919
00:49:53.440 --> 00:49:56.559
we're making crazy time. But now you hear something tearing

920
00:49:56.599 --> 00:49:58.880
through the trees, and you can't really see it, but

921
00:49:58.920 --> 00:50:02.039
you can hear. All of a sudden, I hear my dad.

922
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:04.840
My dad yells, I've got one over here on the left,

923
00:50:05.119 --> 00:50:06.800
and then I hear my uncle say, I just saw

924
00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:13.079
one over here on the right. And these guys are Jeremiah.

925
00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:17.920
These are two Vietnam vets. I've seen two sides of

926
00:50:17.960 --> 00:50:20.039
my uncle and two sides of my dad. I've seen

927
00:50:20.360 --> 00:50:22.800
the happy, go lucky, the joy you know, the joys,

928
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:26.199
you know guys, the jokers, And then that day I

929
00:50:26.239 --> 00:50:32.599
saw dead series. I saw two guys that were ready

930
00:50:32.679 --> 00:50:36.559
to throw down and just inflict a massive amount of

931
00:50:36.599 --> 00:50:39.639
pain and damage on whatever was aftering. They they went

932
00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:46.320
right back to Vietnam, and they're like, move, and we're

933
00:50:46.360 --> 00:50:48.559
running as fast as we can. Now they're not saying,

934
00:50:49.400 --> 00:50:51.480
you know, they're not saying what they're seeing. They're just saying,

935
00:50:51.480 --> 00:50:53.079
I've got one on the left, I got one on

936
00:50:53.119 --> 00:50:56.440
the right. We get running. We come up and I

937
00:50:56.480 --> 00:50:58.800
can see where we've got to go, up this little

938
00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:01.000
hill and then up to the stad up to the road.

939
00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:07.239
This is logging road. We go up. They're already throwing

940
00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:10.320
things and trucks as they go. Whatever truck is closest

941
00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:13.639
is getting something thrown into the back of it. My

942
00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:17.039
brother runs, he gets in the middle truck. I think

943
00:51:17.039 --> 00:51:19.760
it was my uncle's truck. I jump into the back

944
00:51:19.800 --> 00:51:23.199
of my dad's truck. Everybody is just jumping in the

945
00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:26.079
closest vehicle they can get into that isn't already full

946
00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:30.760
again the old you pull down the visor, the keys

947
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:33.519
fall out. That's what was the scenario there. Guys are

948
00:51:33.519 --> 00:51:36.039
getting in the trucks are starting them up. My uncle

949
00:51:36.119 --> 00:51:39.639
all of a sudden, he just throws the sled that

950
00:51:39.719 --> 00:51:43.199
he had threw it up over. It almost landed on me.

951
00:51:43.360 --> 00:51:45.559
Because I'm in the bed of the truck. I see

952
00:51:45.599 --> 00:51:49.000
my dad run by. He gets in the bed of

953
00:51:49.039 --> 00:51:51.000
the truck that's in the middle, I believe my uncle's truck.

954
00:51:51.519 --> 00:51:54.639
My uncle Darrel jumps in the back of our truck,

955
00:51:54.840 --> 00:51:57.599
the truck that I'm in, and they just say go,

956
00:51:57.599 --> 00:51:59.639
go go, and they start taking off and they are

957
00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:02.440
They are going like a bat out of hell, and

958
00:52:02.519 --> 00:52:04.960
I'm sorry to cuss, that's what they were doing. All

959
00:52:04.960 --> 00:52:08.119
of a sudden, my uncle just starts unmowed. Bang bang

960
00:52:08.440 --> 00:52:11.039
bang bang. He's got a lever action as well. My

961
00:52:11.159 --> 00:52:14.880
dad boom, boom boom, He's just rocking and rolling. About

962
00:52:14.880 --> 00:52:17.960
that time, I look up and I see this branch

963
00:52:18.159 --> 00:52:21.000
that was or this stick or whatever, and it was

964
00:52:21.079 --> 00:52:27.400
probably eight feet long and maybe three inches around. It

965
00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:31.360
came selling from the woods through the air and it

966
00:52:31.559 --> 00:52:35.800
almost hit the the front end of my dad's truck.

967
00:52:36.280 --> 00:52:39.039
It barely missed the front front end of my dad's truck,

968
00:52:39.599 --> 00:52:42.960
and they we just gassed it and we never went

969
00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:43.840
back to the hunting camp.

970
00:52:46.280 --> 00:52:50.079
Holy mackerel, that and that. So that happened years before.

971
00:52:51.639 --> 00:52:54.000
Yeah, the other goodness.

972
00:52:55.119 --> 00:52:56.960
But again I didn't really know what was. I didn't

973
00:52:56.960 --> 00:52:59.719
know what it was. I didn't know that could have

974
00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:02.360
been a And again, to this day, I'm still not

975
00:53:02.480 --> 00:53:07.400
saying what was messing with my boot and what faced

976
00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:09.320
us out of the woods. I'm not here to tell

977
00:53:09.360 --> 00:53:12.280
you that one was a big foot. I'm not because

978
00:53:12.320 --> 00:53:18.000
I didn't see it. I saw tracks, I heard noises.

979
00:53:18.320 --> 00:53:21.119
I've heard I've seen tracks and heard noises that if

980
00:53:21.159 --> 00:53:24.039
you look at any video on YouTube or listen to

981
00:53:24.079 --> 00:53:29.320
any podcast, it's all conclusive with what a sasquatch. But

982
00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:32.599
I didn't see it. I'm not saying that's what it is.

983
00:53:34.519 --> 00:53:37.639
And then when you were twelve, you actually saw it.

984
00:53:37.719 --> 00:53:39.840
I know what I saw exactly. I know what I saw.

985
00:53:40.800 --> 00:53:46.960
Oh my goodness, dude, So having a good I'm sure

986
00:53:47.000 --> 00:53:52.159
that you you've had this internal thought over the years,

987
00:53:52.519 --> 00:53:55.960
what do you think it is that we're looking at

988
00:53:56.360 --> 00:53:59.360
when we look at something like what you saw when

989
00:53:59.360 --> 00:54:03.840
you're twelve, Do you think it's an animal or or

990
00:54:03.880 --> 00:54:06.760
some kind of human relative or.

991
00:54:08.280 --> 00:54:14.360
You know now that I mean now that I'm I'm

992
00:54:14.360 --> 00:54:19.159
a co host on a podcast and I've I've researched

993
00:54:19.280 --> 00:54:21.920
so many stories and have heard so many stories and

994
00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:23.920
on my own before I was a co host on

995
00:54:23.960 --> 00:54:30.880
the podcast researching and watching things. You know, one my

996
00:54:31.000 --> 00:54:36.480
host Josh him and I completely disagree on what these

997
00:54:36.519 --> 00:54:40.400
things are. I know for a fact one in my

998
00:54:40.559 --> 00:54:43.480
heart that what I've seen in experience was one hundred

999
00:54:43.480 --> 00:54:47.960
percent flesh and blood. To put a label, is it

1000
00:54:48.199 --> 00:54:54.440
type of a relic human? Is it an undiscovered you know,

1001
00:54:54.559 --> 00:54:59.760
North American ape? I don't know. I want to tend

1002
00:54:59.760 --> 00:55:04.719
more towards maybe a hybrid, maybe more of a relative

1003
00:55:04.960 --> 00:55:09.320
humanoid human, because the intelligence is there. I'm not saying

1004
00:55:09.360 --> 00:55:12.760
apes and chimps are not intelligent, because I mean, I mean,

1005
00:55:12.880 --> 00:55:17.639
it's it's been documented that chimpanzees will use weapons. Chimpanzees

1006
00:55:17.800 --> 00:55:21.199
use will use tools, you know, they use things to

1007
00:55:21.239 --> 00:55:24.840
manipulate certain things. So the intelligence is still there. With

1008
00:55:24.880 --> 00:55:28.960
a primate, I just really can't, I can't. It's in

1009
00:55:29.000 --> 00:55:31.800
it's it's in its own box, really is it? Is

1010
00:55:31.800 --> 00:55:34.559
it off the same tree as a human? Maybe?

1011
00:55:35.760 --> 00:55:39.079
I don't know, Daniel.

1012
00:55:39.239 --> 00:55:42.039
One thing is for sure. Whatever it is, it's intense

1013
00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:45.519
and it is very smart. And I've not had a

1014
00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:51.480
visual yet, but the screen, we've got a big storm

1015
00:55:51.519 --> 00:55:55.400
outside the roar in the roar scream. I experienced that

1016
00:55:55.440 --> 00:55:59.199
in Oregon, way out in the woods. I know what

1017
00:55:59.239 --> 00:56:03.920
you're talking about. And dude, it's a smart animal. Whatever

1018
00:56:03.960 --> 00:56:08.360
it is, it's I personally think it's a some kind

1019
00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:11.480
of physical creature that can do a lot of stuff

1020
00:56:11.519 --> 00:56:16.159
that science can't explain yet, and who knows where that's

1021
00:56:16.199 --> 00:56:21.039
going to lead. Let's let's talk about Mysteries.

1022
00:56:20.679 --> 00:56:21.679
Unknown for a little bit.

1023
00:56:23.159 --> 00:56:26.599
Sure, so you're your co host with Josh is also

1024
00:56:26.599 --> 00:56:35.039
a great dude. Have there been any really interesting accounts

1025
00:56:35.079 --> 00:56:37.639
that you that come to mind when you think of that?

1026
00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:41.599
I mean, you've done multiple episodes and you've got already

1027
00:56:41.679 --> 00:56:45.679
quite a following over there. It's a YouTube channel called

1028
00:56:45.719 --> 00:56:49.719
Mysteries Unknown, And are there any any accounts that that

1029
00:56:49.880 --> 00:56:53.199
stick out to you among the episodes that you've done

1030
00:56:53.239 --> 00:56:53.599
so far?

1031
00:56:55.199 --> 00:56:58.079
You know, there there's there's actually quite a few that

1032
00:56:59.119 --> 00:57:02.159
real be dumbfound, you know, and I won't say because

1033
00:57:02.159 --> 00:57:05.079
I never experienced it, and it's it's really odd that,

1034
00:57:05.280 --> 00:57:08.000
you know, we're just picking up a lot of traffic

1035
00:57:08.079 --> 00:57:12.119
with dog Man right now, which I'll be honest with you,

1036
00:57:12.840 --> 00:57:15.679
I don't know what that is. I think I tend

1037
00:57:15.679 --> 00:57:18.320
to agree with the Josh more about this that they're evil,

1038
00:57:18.840 --> 00:57:22.000
they have no good intention. I've heard way too many

1039
00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:24.840
stories about them. I don't think I've ever seen one.

1040
00:57:24.880 --> 00:57:29.880
I've had an encounter which I can't I can't roll

1041
00:57:29.960 --> 00:57:33.800
it out. I was up in the up in Michigan

1042
00:57:34.760 --> 00:57:36.880
and my wife and I were coming home and we

1043
00:57:36.920 --> 00:57:41.559
were just we were just west of Escanava, like like

1044
00:57:41.880 --> 00:57:46.519
just hardly out of town, and it was probably one

1045
00:57:46.599 --> 00:57:50.719
or two in the morning, was super super foggy, and

1046
00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:55.800
I turned my my driving lights on, like my fog

1047
00:57:55.880 --> 00:58:00.000
lights on, and I see something moving from the right

1048
00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:03.920
side of the road, like not quick, just slowly walking

1049
00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:08.880
across the street. And I kind of slowed down and

1050
00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:16.199
my lights hit it, and Jeremiah, this was the biggest,

1051
00:58:17.239 --> 00:58:24.800
darkest wolf I have ever seen in my life. I

1052
00:58:24.840 --> 00:58:27.840
have never seen a wolf this big in my life.

1053
00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:31.639
If I would have driven, if i'd have drove excuse me,

1054
00:58:31.679 --> 00:58:33.880
I would have drove my truck up to this wolf

1055
00:58:34.039 --> 00:58:36.480
and it just stood there and looked at me. It

1056
00:58:36.679 --> 00:58:39.880
very well could arrested its chin on the hood of

1057
00:58:39.920 --> 00:58:44.039
my truck. And I drive I drive a four wheel

1058
00:58:44.119 --> 00:58:48.599
drive twenty fourteen Chevy S ten Crew cab Z seventy

1059
00:58:48.639 --> 00:58:53.440
one miles all right, And there's no doubt in my

1060
00:58:53.559 --> 00:58:56.800
mind if if I would have pulled right to that wolf,

1061
00:58:57.320 --> 00:58:59.320
he would have put his chin up and rested his

1062
00:58:59.440 --> 00:59:04.320
chin and would been looking right at me with his

1063
00:59:04.519 --> 00:59:06.719
with his with his head on the hood of my truck.

1064
00:59:07.199 --> 00:59:09.199
And then he just kind of stopped. So I slowed

1065
00:59:09.199 --> 00:59:13.000
down and I almost came to stop, and he kind

1066
00:59:13.000 --> 00:59:17.239
of just very slowly kind of slowed down, and then

1067
00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:20.400
he kind of looked at me, and he just kept

1068
00:59:20.400 --> 00:59:23.559
walking straight, just kept walking to the left and just

1069
00:59:23.639 --> 00:59:26.320
kept his eye on me, and then disappeared off into

1070
00:59:26.320 --> 00:59:31.119
the woods. Now I didn't think anything about this, so

1071
00:59:31.199 --> 00:59:34.599
I went on Google Maps, probably three or four months ago,

1072
00:59:35.920 --> 00:59:38.159
and I know exactly where I saw this. I saw

1073
00:59:38.199 --> 00:59:45.960
this wolf, and I looked at the Google Maps, and

1074
00:59:46.000 --> 00:59:50.280
I'll be darned if there was not a cemetery where

1075
00:59:50.320 --> 00:59:54.360
this thing was coming out of man and it just

1076
00:59:54.480 --> 00:59:58.840
walked across the street and off into the woods, and

1077
00:59:58.920 --> 01:00:02.280
I couldn't get out of their fact. So you ask

1078
01:00:02.360 --> 01:00:06.320
me if there's anything, any any episodes that stand out,

1079
01:00:06.360 --> 01:00:09.039
and it's it's our dog Man episodes. I mean they are.

1080
01:00:09.320 --> 01:00:12.679
We just had one recently posted up there. Or this

1081
01:00:12.760 --> 01:00:17.000
guy to this day he shot one that looked like

1082
01:00:17.000 --> 01:00:20.480
a fox when he was out hunting as a kid,

1083
01:00:21.480 --> 01:00:24.400
and he said he saw this fox, he raised his

1084
01:00:24.519 --> 01:00:28.119
rifle or his shotgun, and in his mind he heard

1085
01:00:28.199 --> 01:00:32.519
don't and then he shot, and then he.

1086
01:00:32.360 --> 01:00:35.199
Heard shoot me whoa?

1087
01:00:36.239 --> 01:00:42.559
And he says, to this day, this dog man is

1088
01:00:42.639 --> 01:00:48.119
following him wherever he goes. This dog man has has

1089
01:00:48.480 --> 01:00:52.280
used mind speak, as he describes it, and has told

1090
01:00:52.360 --> 01:00:56.239
him when it is given the okay to do so,

1091
01:00:57.320 --> 01:01:04.119
it's going to kill him, is the dog man. The

1092
01:01:04.159 --> 01:01:07.519
dog Man told this guy, when I'm given the okay,

1093
01:01:08.679 --> 01:01:12.719
I'm going to kill you, m.

1094
01:01:19.039 --> 01:01:23.239
Bro, that okay one that that stuff freaks me out.

1095
01:01:23.800 --> 01:01:29.320
So the dog Man stuff is freaky to me. That

1096
01:01:29.360 --> 01:01:33.039
mind speaks stuff to me is even more freaky. Because

1097
01:01:33.760 --> 01:01:39.880
here's the thing. Who's to say you can't prove that

1098
01:01:39.960 --> 01:01:42.159
it's dog Man or it is Bigfoot. And I know

1099
01:01:42.199 --> 01:01:46.360
I'm going to get flak for this, but it's like, dude,

1100
01:01:48.039 --> 01:01:53.280
I think, I think. I don't know what I think yet, Daniel,

1101
01:01:53.760 --> 01:01:58.119
I don't know, and that stuff scares me to death

1102
01:01:58.519 --> 01:02:01.760
because what if it's bigfoot, what if it's not dog Man,

1103
01:02:01.800 --> 01:02:02.719
what if it's something else?

1104
01:02:02.960 --> 01:02:03.559
You know what I mean?

1105
01:02:04.079 --> 01:02:07.599
Exactly one hundred percent. I understand that you're saying, well,

1106
01:02:07.719 --> 01:02:09.559
let me ask you. Do you believe in infrasound?

1107
01:02:10.400 --> 01:02:12.440
Yes, sir, I do.

1108
01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:15.920
I do as well. And I've been thinking about it

1109
01:02:15.960 --> 01:02:17.559
as i've been talking to you, and I'm gonna go

1110
01:02:17.639 --> 01:02:20.280
ahead and let let you in on the last experience

1111
01:02:20.280 --> 01:02:26.719
that I had. All I'm gonna say is it happened

1112
01:02:26.760 --> 01:02:32.360
in Shelby County, Tennessee. It happened in ninety two. I

1113
01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:37.000
was home on leave from Germany. I'm an Air Force veteran.

1114
01:02:37.039 --> 01:02:45.159
I was Air Force Security police officer, and uh.

1115
01:02:43.079 --> 01:02:52.840
My brother, my brother, my brother was this is my

1116
01:02:52.880 --> 01:02:55.840
best friend, my absolute.

1117
01:02:58.039 --> 01:03:01.559
You know, you grow up and you have friends and say, yeah,

1118
01:03:01.559 --> 01:03:04.440
that guy's my best friend. Or I still haven't gotten

1119
01:03:04.440 --> 01:03:09.880
over his death. And he passed away in twenty sixteen.

1120
01:03:12.719 --> 01:03:17.599
So he graduated high school in ninety two, and our

1121
01:03:17.639 --> 01:03:20.920
grandfather had just passed away, And so I came home

1122
01:03:20.960 --> 01:03:24.119
on a burntsea leave, and I wanted to surprise him

1123
01:03:24.119 --> 01:03:28.079
that I was coming home. One thing that we like

1124
01:03:28.159 --> 01:03:31.480
to do, we loved just hanging out with each other.

1125
01:03:32.440 --> 01:03:36.079
It didn't matter. I'd get in my car, he'd get

1126
01:03:36.079 --> 01:03:38.800
in his car, you know, whichever, whoever wanted to drive,

1127
01:03:39.199 --> 01:03:42.679
and we would just go. And I'll tell you all

1128
01:03:42.719 --> 01:03:45.280
over the South, him and I, We've been all over

1129
01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:50.239
the South just to go out and drive. Didn't matter.

1130
01:03:50.480 --> 01:03:54.119
We'd pull inside the road and we'd sleep. We'd have

1131
01:03:54.280 --> 01:03:56.480
enough money, we'd get a little small hotel room and

1132
01:03:56.519 --> 01:03:58.800
we'd just rack out and then we'd just go exploring around.

1133
01:03:58.840 --> 01:04:01.199
It didn't matter. We'd be gone sometimes for weekends at

1134
01:04:01.199 --> 01:04:03.360
a time, you know, with Eve, like on a Friday,

1135
01:04:03.400 --> 01:04:08.119
we'd be home. On a Sunday night, we want to

1136
01:04:08.159 --> 01:04:09.480
go camp. And I s something we did a lot

1137
01:04:09.480 --> 01:04:12.360
when we were little, and he said, hey, let's go

1138
01:04:12.360 --> 01:04:14.760
to this one spot. I'm like, okay, yeah, sure, not

1139
01:04:14.840 --> 01:04:18.719
a problem. And the spot butts up against the Mississippi River,

1140
01:04:22.519 --> 01:04:24.840
So you know, we get a little packs and you know,

1141
01:04:24.960 --> 01:04:28.800
our canteens, and you know, we had like our little

1142
01:04:28.800 --> 01:04:32.119
two person tents. Now you know, he was a big

1143
01:04:32.159 --> 01:04:37.679
boy six one six' two about three, fifteen you, know

1144
01:04:37.719 --> 01:04:42.719
And i'm like five, nine like one, eighty and so

1145
01:04:42.760 --> 01:04:45.320
a two man, tent you, know wouldn't. Do so we

1146
01:04:45.400 --> 01:04:48.639
had this four man, tent which, really with the size

1147
01:04:48.639 --> 01:04:50.599
of both of us in there was actually a two man.

1148
01:04:50.719 --> 01:04:52.599
Tent what do you think about with our sleeping bags and.

1149
01:04:52.599 --> 01:04:57.199
Stuff so we were packing pretty. Light this was Late,

1150
01:04:57.239 --> 01:05:00.719
may Early, june so we're packing pretty. Light we didn't

1151
01:05:00.760 --> 01:05:03.800
really have to worry about staying warm because you, know

1152
01:05:03.880 --> 01:05:07.800
down south it's it gets pretty. Warm and so we

1153
01:05:07.920 --> 01:05:10.519
go and we. Park there's like a visitor center. There

1154
01:05:10.559 --> 01:05:15.559
so we go and, park and he's driving his seventy

1155
01:05:15.599 --> 01:05:18.800
Six Lincoln, continental baby blue with a white. Top he

1156
01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:23.760
called it the stink And. Lincoln then we go and

1157
01:05:25.400 --> 01:05:28.480
there's whereas we, park we start walking down this road

1158
01:05:28.519 --> 01:05:30.840
and there's a path that goes off into the. Woods

1159
01:05:30.840 --> 01:05:33.360
so we take the path and then he's, like, well,

1160
01:05:33.400 --> 01:05:35.760
hey let's let's go this. Way let's go off this,

1161
01:05:35.880 --> 01:05:38.000
path and he, GOES i know there's an AREA, o

1162
01:05:38.039 --> 01:05:41.079
we're here further down almost right on the. River it's

1163
01:05:41.079 --> 01:05:44.280
got a nice sandbar pretty close to. It you. Know i'm, like, hey,

1164
01:05:44.360 --> 01:05:47.199
yeah let's, go let's do. It so we take off

1165
01:05:47.239 --> 01:05:52.639
and we're probably walking maybe about an, hour and he's, like,

1166
01:05:52.639 --> 01:05:55.920
MAN i gotta go to the. Bathroom and so he

1167
01:05:55.960 --> 01:05:59.079
stops and he starts going to the bathroom AND i

1168
01:05:59.119 --> 01:06:03.920
hear this whistle AND i going to ask if he heard.

1169
01:06:03.960 --> 01:06:06.480
That he, goes, man what do you whistling me? For he,

1170
01:06:06.480 --> 01:06:08.119
goes what do you? Like go, bro WASN'T i didn't?

1171
01:06:08.119 --> 01:06:11.119
Whistle and so he finishes up and we start going

1172
01:06:11.159 --> 01:06:13.960
down and down towards, again and also he just. Stops he,

1173
01:06:14.000 --> 01:06:17.119
goes do you hear? That AND i, GO i go know,

1174
01:06:17.159 --> 01:06:18.960
what what what do you? Mean did you hear? That

1175
01:06:19.119 --> 01:06:22.599
AND i go, know and he, GOES i hear someone? Walking,

1176
01:06:23.920 --> 01:06:26.639
now if you if spending time in the, woods you

1177
01:06:26.719 --> 01:06:30.559
know what a squirrel sounds. Like you, know you know

1178
01:06:30.639 --> 01:06:33.440
what a deer sounds. Like you, know you know what

1179
01:06:33.480 --> 01:06:36.079
these sounds. Are you know what a four legged animal sounds.

1180
01:06:36.079 --> 01:06:38.920
Like you know what a two legged person or animal sounds.

1181
01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:44.719
Like and it's definitely. Bipedal and he's, like, MAN i

1182
01:06:45.400 --> 01:06:47.440
don't have a good. Feeling let's get out of. Here

1183
01:06:47.519 --> 01:06:50.239
let's get out of. Here i'm, Like i'm, like, okay you,

1184
01:06:50.280 --> 01:06:53.039
know so we turn. Around we started walking, back says,

1185
01:06:53.039 --> 01:06:54.800
man we got to. Go. Now it's going to be

1186
01:06:54.880 --> 01:06:56.079
dark by the time we get back to the, car

1187
01:06:56.119 --> 01:06:58.920
so because let's just. Go so we turn, around we

1188
01:06:58.960 --> 01:07:00.400
start heading back AND i WILL i got to go

1189
01:07:00.440 --> 01:07:01.920
to the. Bathroom SO i start to go to the

1190
01:07:01.920 --> 01:07:06.599
bathroom And i'm just getting ready to start and, he

1191
01:07:06.639 --> 01:07:08.960
out of nowhere just pulls me like out of the,

1192
01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:13.800
way and this stick or branch comes sailing through and

1193
01:07:13.920 --> 01:07:16.679
hits the tree right where my head would have. Been

1194
01:07:18.199 --> 01:07:19.920
and he's, like, dude we gotta. Go and he, GOES

1195
01:07:19.960 --> 01:07:21.559
i just saw, Something like what do you, Mean he,

1196
01:07:21.559 --> 01:07:23.440
GOES i just saw something peek around from that tree over,

1197
01:07:23.480 --> 01:07:26.039
there And i'm, like let's, go. Man so we start

1198
01:07:26.119 --> 01:07:31.800
going and we're huffinged and just out of, nowhere it's

1199
01:07:31.840 --> 01:07:35.119
just like he just like stops and he puts his

1200
01:07:35.199 --> 01:07:36.800
hand on a. Tree he's, like, MAN i don't feel,

1201
01:07:36.840 --> 01:07:41.079
good and it almost buckled into his, knees like he

1202
01:07:41.199 --> 01:07:43.360
just almost went to his, knees, like, MAN i don't Feel,

1203
01:07:43.400 --> 01:07:45.519
guys to, here, man he'll get a drink of. Water,

1204
01:07:45.559 --> 01:07:47.920
here drink some. Water so he's trying to get some

1205
01:07:47.960 --> 01:07:50.239
water and he's trying to get his composure with. Himself he's, like,

1206
01:07:50.239 --> 01:07:51.679
Man i'm feeling you. Know he, goes, MAN i just

1207
01:07:51.679 --> 01:07:54.400
don't feel guy feels sick AND i go, Here, man,

1208
01:07:54.440 --> 01:07:55.840
here drink some more. Water he, goes, MAN i got a.

1209
01:07:55.840 --> 01:07:59.199
Headache AND i go. HERE i sit, here just take

1210
01:07:59.239 --> 01:08:02.079
some deep. Breaths, here drink some. Water so he drink some.

1211
01:08:02.119 --> 01:08:04.320
Water he, said, okay we gotta. Go we gotta. Go

1212
01:08:04.400 --> 01:08:06.679
SO i start going and all of a, SUDDEN i

1213
01:08:07.039 --> 01:08:10.239
get THAT i get hit And i'm, like, MAN i,

1214
01:08:10.239 --> 01:08:12.320
said whatever you just went, through you just gave it to.

1215
01:08:12.400 --> 01:08:16.800
Me AND i started feeling really. Nauseous it's so much

1216
01:08:16.840 --> 01:08:19.399
THAT i actually went down to a knee And i'm, like,

1217
01:08:19.399 --> 01:08:21.199
MAN i don't feel. Good and then the headache hit

1218
01:08:21.239 --> 01:08:24.600
me And i'm, like, BRO i GO i can't get my,

1219
01:08:24.640 --> 01:08:26.840
bearings you, Know and he's, like get, up get, up

1220
01:08:26.840 --> 01:08:28.239
we gotta. Go we gotta. GO i just saw something.

1221
01:08:28.279 --> 01:08:31.119
AGAIN i just saw something. Again and we start moving

1222
01:08:31.199 --> 01:08:35.680
and we're, moving we're, hauling but we come through this

1223
01:08:35.760 --> 01:08:37.960
trail and we see the main. Trail now we, know

1224
01:08:38.560 --> 01:08:41.199
once we hit this main, trail we're not far. Away

1225
01:08:41.199 --> 01:08:43.840
we're maybe one hundred and fifty yards two hundred yards

1226
01:08:43.920 --> 01:08:50.199
to the main asphalt. Road so we start going and

1227
01:08:50.479 --> 01:08:55.760
my brother is. Gassed he, is he's just. Gassed And i'm,

1228
01:08:55.760 --> 01:08:57.319
like come, on, man come, on come. On he, Goes,

1229
01:08:57.359 --> 01:08:59.319
man you're in better shape than. Me you just. GO i, said,

1230
01:08:59.319 --> 01:09:01.560
oh come, on let's, go let's. Go so we get

1231
01:09:01.640 --> 01:09:05.279
up to the main road And i'm facing where our

1232
01:09:05.479 --> 01:09:08.199
car is, facing And i've got the keys to his car,

1233
01:09:08.319 --> 01:09:13.079
too to his, car And i'm looking you look down

1234
01:09:13.079 --> 01:09:14.880
the road and it's got like a bend in the

1235
01:09:14.960 --> 01:09:18.079
road that goes to the. Right and he's looking at

1236
01:09:18.119 --> 01:09:20.680
me and he's looking at you, know the road behind,

1237
01:09:20.760 --> 01:09:29.159
me and he, goes, BRO i just saw across the. Street,

1238
01:09:33.199 --> 01:09:35.640
Okay i'm not gonna. Cry i'm not gonna. Cry and he's, like,

1239
01:09:35.680 --> 01:09:42.079
man just, go just. Go, yeh he. GOES i can't go. Anymore,

1240
01:09:42.119 --> 01:09:46.079
Man he, GOES i can't. Go i'm. Gassed AND i, go,

1241
01:09:46.199 --> 01:09:49.159
man come, on let's, go let's. Go and he, goes he, goes,

1242
01:09:49.199 --> 01:09:52.720
no just he, goes tell mom, my. Lover he, goes

1243
01:09:52.840 --> 01:09:54.359
just go get out of. HERE i know you'll be

1244
01:09:54.399 --> 01:09:58.199
able to get to the car before. Me AND i

1245
01:09:58.399 --> 01:10:02.039
slapped him his hard AS i, could And i'm, like, man,

1246
01:10:02.520 --> 01:10:06.239
no you take. Off go give me your. Knife you.

1247
01:10:06.239 --> 01:10:08.479
KNOW i had a straight, edge almost like a k bar,

1248
01:10:08.600 --> 01:10:12.560
knife and he had a really large lock. Blade AND

1249
01:10:12.600 --> 01:10:15.079
i grabbed his knife from. HIM i, SAID i got.

1250
01:10:15.079 --> 01:10:17.399
THIS i, said, Go i'll catch up with. You just.

1251
01:10:17.680 --> 01:10:21.119
GO i KNOW i can catch up to. You and

1252
01:10:21.199 --> 01:10:23.960
so he takes off at a dead, run And i'm

1253
01:10:24.000 --> 01:10:27.840
standing there And i'm, like come, on let's, go let's.

1254
01:10:27.880 --> 01:10:29.600
Go you want some of, This let's. Go And i'm

1255
01:10:29.600 --> 01:10:32.000
Sure i'm saying other, things but i can't recall. Everything

1256
01:10:32.000 --> 01:10:33.920
AND i was, saying BUT i know that's the effect

1257
01:10:34.199 --> 01:10:35.439
the fact THAT i was. SAYING i was, Like i'm,

1258
01:10:35.439 --> 01:10:38.720
like let's. Go you know you're not going to get

1259
01:10:38.720 --> 01:10:41.800
my little, brother you. Know AND i hear my brother and,

1260
01:10:41.920 --> 01:10:43.720
go come, on come, on come, on AND i look

1261
01:10:43.760 --> 01:10:45.840
and he's just getting ready to go around the. Bend

1262
01:10:46.439 --> 01:10:49.239
SO i take off at a dead. Sprint and When i'm

1263
01:10:49.319 --> 01:10:51.680
running as harder and as fast AS i, CAN i

1264
01:10:51.720 --> 01:10:56.239
hear something like a freight train just bulldozing right through the.

1265
01:10:56.279 --> 01:10:59.239
Woods it's right on my right hand. SIDE i mean it,

1266
01:10:59.439 --> 01:11:03.239
is move it AND i, Go, bobby go go. Go,

1267
01:11:03.359 --> 01:11:07.720
well he gets up to the car AND i try

1268
01:11:07.760 --> 01:11:09.960
to duke some hazard across the hood of the. CAR

1269
01:11:10.800 --> 01:11:12.840
i don't land THE i DON'T i don't stick the.

1270
01:11:12.920 --> 01:11:15.640
LANDING i land on my. Back the BACKPACK i had

1271
01:11:15.680 --> 01:11:19.239
on saved me because it. DIDN'T i didn't knock any

1272
01:11:19.239 --> 01:11:20.640
of the air out of. ME i jumped back, up

1273
01:11:21.199 --> 01:11:23.880
was able to get the key, in hit the unlocked.

1274
01:11:23.880 --> 01:11:27.279
Button my brother jumps in AND i put it. IN

1275
01:11:27.399 --> 01:11:28.920
i started the. CAR i put it a verse That

1276
01:11:29.000 --> 01:11:33.159
I'm i'm rolling and he's, like go go. Go it's right.

1277
01:11:33.199 --> 01:11:34.720
There it's right. THERE i can see it's in the

1278
01:11:34.840 --> 01:11:37.199
it's in the. Trees it's chasing. It it's right, there right.

1279
01:11:37.199 --> 01:11:39.359
There and my brother's, like come, on please go, faster go.

1280
01:11:39.439 --> 01:11:43.600
Faster he's, Like, daniel just, go just. Go AND i

1281
01:11:43.760 --> 01:11:47.159
just mash the gas as hard AS i can and

1282
01:11:46.800 --> 01:11:50.039
the engine kicks in and we start taking. Off he's,

1283
01:11:50.079 --> 01:11:53.239
like it's, still it's right, there it's right with. Us

1284
01:11:53.840 --> 01:11:57.800
and we come up to a t AND i locked the.

1285
01:11:57.840 --> 01:12:00.359
BRAKES i cranked the wheel to the to the left

1286
01:12:00.880 --> 01:12:03.760
with fish tail out AND i just take off and

1287
01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:05.119
that's the last time we were in that.

1288
01:12:05.199 --> 01:12:13.560
Area oh my. Goodness, Wow i'm.

1289
01:12:13.600 --> 01:12:17.840
Sorry, Damn i'm sorry you lost your. Brother you can

1290
01:12:17.840 --> 01:12:21.479
tell you, guys had you had a special special.

1291
01:12:21.479 --> 01:12:24.199
Connection h.

1292
01:12:27.920 --> 01:12:27.960
M.

1293
01:12:28.119 --> 01:12:38.079
Hm, oh, man he would be he should call me

1294
01:12:38.159 --> 01:12:39.279
so many, pets.

1295
01:12:40.720 --> 01:12:42.640
He would. Be he would be clown to me so.

1296
01:12:42.880 --> 01:12:49.880
Bad right, now the baby white, Crying Oh i'm.

1297
01:12:49.680 --> 01:12:53.319
Missing, yeah you'll see him again.

1298
01:12:53.319 --> 01:12:57.720
Someday. Man OH i, know, YEAH i KNOW i.

1299
01:12:57.760 --> 01:13:03.640
Will but, yeah that was that was The that's that's

1300
01:13:03.680 --> 01:13:05.680
pretty much the last Time i've ever been deep in

1301
01:13:05.720 --> 01:13:06.399
any woods like.

1302
01:13:06.479 --> 01:13:09.359
That, so, YEAH i was going to ask if if

1303
01:13:09.359 --> 01:13:13.159
this is a thing where you, know now that you're

1304
01:13:14.239 --> 01:13:18.560
you're getting into the show with With josh and in your,

1305
01:13:18.600 --> 01:13:22.479
START i, know you're you go deep with with researching different,

1306
01:13:22.520 --> 01:13:24.880
things if if you've gotten to the point where you

1307
01:13:25.079 --> 01:13:29.039
start to go into, it it's not a thing for.

1308
01:13:29.079 --> 01:13:32.720
You it sounds, like, yeah.

1309
01:13:32.600 --> 01:13:34.880
You, know it's It's it's a lot of times When

1310
01:13:34.880 --> 01:13:37.000
i'm doing, Research i've got to stop and just walk

1311
01:13:37.039 --> 01:13:39.399
away from it for a little bit because it brings

1312
01:13:39.439 --> 01:13:44.520
it back you, know and then it just makes me

1313
01:13:44.600 --> 01:13:47.840
take you, know stock of my life and and you,

1314
01:13:47.840 --> 01:13:51.079
Know i've got three grand babies, now and you, know

1315
01:13:51.159 --> 01:13:54.520
three kids and a beautiful, wife and you, KNOW i

1316
01:13:54.840 --> 01:13:57.600
don't go out and do the crazy things LIKE i used.

1317
01:13:57.640 --> 01:14:04.560
TO i used to just go for, days sometimes weeks

1318
01:14:04.600 --> 01:14:08.000
off into the woods and just do my own, thing you. Know,

1319
01:14:08.920 --> 01:14:14.399
Yeah AND i JUST i JUST i just. DON'T i just.

1320
01:14:14.439 --> 01:14:17.079
Don't you. Know It's i'm more hyper, alert more hyper

1321
01:14:17.079 --> 01:14:20.560
aware of my. SURROUNDINGS i DON'T i don't pigeonhole myself

1322
01:14:20.560 --> 01:14:23.600
into certain. THINGS i DON'T i avoid areas and situations

1323
01:14:23.600 --> 01:14:26.800
at all. POSSIBLE i carry EVERYWHERE i. Go you. Know

1324
01:14:26.880 --> 01:14:29.840
it's better to have and not need than need not,

1325
01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:30.600
have you know What i'm.

1326
01:14:30.640 --> 01:14:35.039
Saying, no, Absolutely and it's it puts you in an

1327
01:14:35.039 --> 01:14:39.079
interesting situation where you've had these things happened to you

1328
01:14:39.119 --> 01:14:43.079
in the past and you're able to relate to you,

1329
01:14:43.079 --> 01:14:47.279
know if you are to interview someone about a big

1330
01:14:47.319 --> 01:14:50.680
foot site and you're you're able to relate about you,

1331
01:14:50.720 --> 01:14:54.479
know the emotions they went through and how it probably you,

1332
01:14:54.520 --> 01:14:57.000
know gets replayed.

1333
01:14:56.560 --> 01:14:58.680
Over and over in your, mind or you, know.

1334
01:14:59.600 --> 01:15:02.840
Different things like that big for society will be right

1335
01:15:02.880 --> 01:15:22.239
back after these, messages AND i think that's really. Special

1336
01:15:22.279 --> 01:15:25.640
it's the thing Where i'm just starting to experience that

1337
01:15:25.720 --> 01:15:29.239
myself Because i'm going out to different. Places but what

1338
01:15:29.359 --> 01:15:33.880
is you, know speaking Of Mysteries, unknown what is the

1339
01:15:33.920 --> 01:15:35.680
main goal that you guys have with that?

1340
01:15:35.800 --> 01:15:41.880
Channel, well With Mysteries. Unknown you, Know josh created it

1341
01:15:42.640 --> 01:15:45.479
And i'm champion it as. Well you, know we just

1342
01:15:45.560 --> 01:15:49.920
want a safe space for people to go if they've

1343
01:15:49.920 --> 01:15:53.520
had an, encounter they had something they can't, explain and

1344
01:15:53.560 --> 01:15:55.039
they want to be able to let it off their.

1345
01:15:55.159 --> 01:15:57.000
Chest you, know they want to be able to get

1346
01:15:57.039 --> 01:16:00.159
that off their chest and hopefully have other people related to.

1347
01:16:00.239 --> 01:16:04.960
Them you. KNOW I i monitor the chat on each

1348
01:16:05.039 --> 01:16:09.840
one of the, episodes during and even after they're. Posting you,

1349
01:16:09.840 --> 01:16:12.520
know we do a live and then when we post

1350
01:16:12.640 --> 01:16:15.359
a live or post Or josh post an. Episode you,

1351
01:16:15.399 --> 01:16:20.359
KNOW i, understand And i'm guilty of. This i'm very

1352
01:16:20.520 --> 01:16:24.600
VERY i look at. THINGS i scrutinize EVERYTHING i really,

1353
01:16:24.680 --> 01:16:27.840
do AND i think that's just my military, background me

1354
01:16:28.000 --> 01:16:29.960
being a police officer in the, military then being a

1355
01:16:29.960 --> 01:16:32.600
crutch officer for The state Of tennessee for two years

1356
01:16:33.319 --> 01:16:35.640
and then doing private security and things like. That you,

1357
01:16:35.640 --> 01:16:40.000
Know i'm very very cynical in a way that WHEN

1358
01:16:40.039 --> 01:16:44.720
i listen to someone's, account you, KNOW i give everybody

1359
01:16:44.720 --> 01:16:48.479
the benefit of the, doubt AND i do not like

1360
01:16:48.560 --> 01:16:52.039
it when people go on and just openly and blatantly

1361
01:16:52.119 --> 01:16:54.600
just say this person's full of, crap this person's, lying

1362
01:16:54.640 --> 01:16:57.279
this person's. BS i don't believe nothing they're, saying this

1363
01:16:57.319 --> 01:17:00.159
person's a jokester or, whatever you, know because here's the,

1364
01:17:00.199 --> 01:17:02.720
THING i don't know everybody's. STORY i don't know their.

1365
01:17:02.760 --> 01:17:06.960
EXPERIENCES i wasn't there on the ground with. Them. NOW i,

1366
01:17:07.000 --> 01:17:11.000
mean you, know we've had we've had a guest on

1367
01:17:12.000 --> 01:17:15.000
and you've had a guest on your show that you,

1368
01:17:15.039 --> 01:17:18.920
know they've mentioned stuff when it comes to the, military

1369
01:17:19.000 --> 01:17:21.840
And i'm very critical to. That, right one of the

1370
01:17:21.880 --> 01:17:24.760
guests did the exact same THING i did in the

1371
01:17:24.840 --> 01:17:30.199
in The Air, force AND i called shenanigans on a

1372
01:17:30.279 --> 01:17:33.680
part of his story BECAUSE i know the rules and,

1373
01:17:33.720 --> 01:17:36.960
REGULATIONS i know the operating, PROCEDURES i know all of,

1374
01:17:36.960 --> 01:17:41.159
that and that person, WAS i, think telling a. Story

1375
01:17:41.640 --> 01:17:43.119
and then you, KNOW i had a person on there

1376
01:17:43.119 --> 01:17:45.239
AND i called the person out on you. KNOW i

1377
01:17:45.279 --> 01:17:47.119
didn't say you're a, liar BUT i, said you, KNOW

1378
01:17:47.159 --> 01:17:51.800
i got, questions you, Know And i've actually had conversations

1379
01:17:51.840 --> 01:17:54.600
with that person And i'm actually following their channel too

1380
01:17:54.640 --> 01:17:56.840
BECAUSE i like their. Channel it's it's pretty, interesting so

1381
01:17:58.479 --> 01:18:02.359
but you, know still it's IT'S i just want to

1382
01:18:02.359 --> 01:18:04.600
protect people's. STORY i just want to protect. THEM i

1383
01:18:04.600 --> 01:18:06.319
want them to understand, that you, know there are people

1384
01:18:06.359 --> 01:18:08.840
out there that have experienced similar, things if not the same,

1385
01:18:08.840 --> 01:18:10.600
thing and it's a safe space for them to. Come

1386
01:18:11.119 --> 01:18:16.560
and that's What Josh josh is very very very passionate.

1387
01:18:16.600 --> 01:18:20.840
About you, know it's a safe space for everybody to

1388
01:18:20.840 --> 01:18:24.680
to let everybody, Know, HEY i did have this, issue

1389
01:18:24.680 --> 01:18:26.760
AND i don't know where to. Go i'm afraid to

1390
01:18:26.800 --> 01:18:29.680
say anything to. ANYBODY i just need to know AM

1391
01:18:29.720 --> 01:18:31.760
i crazy or DID i see WHAT i? Saw or

1392
01:18:31.760 --> 01:18:34.600
DID i experience WHAT i? Experienced and we want them

1393
01:18:34.600 --> 01:18:37.920
to know, that, hey you can come here and you're.

1394
01:18:37.960 --> 01:18:40.039
SAFE i love.

1395
01:18:40.079 --> 01:18:43.159
That it's it's very close to what guides.

1396
01:18:43.199 --> 01:18:45.720
Me but the thing THAT i like about your channel

1397
01:18:45.760 --> 01:18:49.560
is that you, know you don't just stick To. Bigfoot

1398
01:18:49.119 --> 01:18:52.239
you're throwing every all sorts of stuff in there as

1399
01:18:52.319 --> 01:18:55.439
you were mentioning Before you've got the Dog man, episodes

1400
01:18:55.479 --> 01:18:58.279
and a lot of my listeners are, like get into Dog.

1401
01:18:58.359 --> 01:19:00.479
Man i'm, like, Well i'm kind of sticking Big. Foot

1402
01:19:00.520 --> 01:19:02.800
if it comes up, organically then, yeah we'll do. It

1403
01:19:02.880 --> 01:19:06.760
BUT i, mean the great thing about your channel is

1404
01:19:06.800 --> 01:19:09.800
that it's got all sorts of stuff for all sorts

1405
01:19:09.800 --> 01:19:12.800
of people over, There so definitely listeners will want to

1406
01:19:12.880 --> 01:19:14.920
check it. Out the link is going to be in

1407
01:19:14.960 --> 01:19:17.920
the show notes and they can subscribe and all that good.

1408
01:19:17.960 --> 01:19:24.119
Stuff But, daniel it has been such a awesome chat with.

1409
01:19:24.159 --> 01:19:27.359
You i'm glad we're finally able to get you on the,

1410
01:19:27.399 --> 01:19:31.560
show and thank you so much for sharing your. Stories

1411
01:19:31.640 --> 01:19:34.760
your accounts THAT i know are are very near and

1412
01:19:34.800 --> 01:19:37.359
dear to your, heart AND i really appreciate you doing.

1413
01:19:37.399 --> 01:19:41.560
That, yeah, HEY i just want to let you know

1414
01:19:41.640 --> 01:19:44.760
if it's. OKAY i mentioned you. Earlier earlier, TODAY i

1415
01:19:44.800 --> 01:19:49.239
started my own, podcast Heck, you and it's called The

1416
01:19:49.359 --> 01:19:53.039
Paranormal Narrative podcast that's on. YouTube i've only got one

1417
01:19:53.079 --> 01:19:58.640
episode on there so, far AND i dive into everything that's, paranormal, supernatural,

1418
01:19:59.319 --> 01:20:02.199
ghostly high, huntings things like. That i'm gonna try to

1419
01:20:02.199 --> 01:20:04.960
stay away from bigfoot dog man that type of, stuff

1420
01:20:05.000 --> 01:20:08.880
because That's josh's you, know that's his. Thing and the

1421
01:20:08.960 --> 01:20:10.680
him AND i were a. Team you, know people have

1422
01:20:10.760 --> 01:20:13.800
called this to the dynamic, duo and And i'm truly

1423
01:20:13.840 --> 01:20:15.720
blessed to have him in my life as my friend

1424
01:20:16.039 --> 01:20:18.520
and my, brother you. Know and you know because of,

1425
01:20:18.600 --> 01:20:20.720
HIM i met you and found. You ACTUALLY i was

1426
01:20:20.760 --> 01:20:25.800
listening to you BEFORE i even even Met. Josh so, dang,

1427
01:20:27.119 --> 01:20:30.399
Yeah i've. Been i've. Been, YEAH i came across. YOU i,

1428
01:20:30.399 --> 01:20:33.079
CAME i go listen to this. Guy, listen listen how he.

1429
01:20:33.199 --> 01:20:36.359
TALKS i love That kadi is how he. Talks you.

1430
01:20:36.399 --> 01:20:39.000
Know, well, thanks, Thanks. DANIEL i appreciate.

1431
01:20:39.000 --> 01:20:42.159
It, yeah, Man and you, Know i'm just trying to.

1432
01:20:42.199 --> 01:20:44.560
Work i'm just trying to, work you, know work behind

1433
01:20:44.600 --> 01:20:46.840
the scenes and Get josh some pretty good. Interviews And

1434
01:20:46.960 --> 01:20:49.119
josh has done so much for. Me And josh, is

1435
01:20:49.279 --> 01:20:53.920
like you, said he is such a great. Guy he, honestly,

1436
01:20:53.960 --> 01:20:57.239
man he's helping fill that void of my little brother being.

1437
01:20:57.279 --> 01:21:01.039
GONE i, mean he's that's the top single day the

1438
01:21:01.119 --> 01:21:03.520
times of, day, Man AND i tell my love. Him

1439
01:21:03.760 --> 01:21:06.199
he's my. Brother i'm blessed to have him in my

1440
01:21:06.199 --> 01:21:08.840
life AND i just want TO i JUST I i

1441
01:21:08.880 --> 01:21:10.800
succeed when he. Succeeded that's WAY i look. AT i

1442
01:21:10.840 --> 01:21:12.479
want to do as much for him AS i possibly.

1443
01:21:12.520 --> 01:21:12.960
Can so.

1444
01:21:15.479 --> 01:21:15.680
That's.

1445
01:21:15.680 --> 01:21:21.520
Special, Yeah, daniel thank. You i'm going to have both both.

1446
01:21:21.560 --> 01:21:24.520
Shows in the show notes that down the description people

1447
01:21:24.560 --> 01:21:27.159
can check. Out but you guys are doing. Great I'm

1448
01:21:27.560 --> 01:21:29.520
i'm a fan of what you guys are doing. MYSELF

1449
01:21:29.880 --> 01:21:33.079
i try to catch everyone THAT i, can and, uh

1450
01:21:33.479 --> 01:21:35.079
thank you so much for coming, On.

1451
01:21:35.199 --> 01:21:39.840
Daniel, DUDE i, WAS i. WAS i was surprised that

1452
01:21:39.880 --> 01:21:43.079
you wanted me, on And i'm very honored to be

1453
01:21:43.159 --> 01:21:46.640
on your, show, MAN i mean you you. Are AND

1454
01:21:46.680 --> 01:21:48.720
i call it My MONDAY i call it My Monday

1455
01:21:48.720 --> 01:21:52.560
morning mix. Up you, know it's it's, You It's Sasquatch,

1456
01:21:52.680 --> 01:21:59.000
Chronicles It's Josh, Nice Sasquatch, odyssey you. Know, SO i

1457
01:21:59.039 --> 01:22:03.159
MEAN I i for probably five hours of my day

1458
01:22:03.359 --> 01:22:04.520
is spent listening to you.

1459
01:22:04.560 --> 01:22:07.520
Guys like that's a good group to be. In thank, you.

1460
01:22:07.560 --> 01:22:08.279
MAN i appreciate.

1461
01:22:08.279 --> 01:22:10.439
It, WELL i appreciate. You.

1462
01:22:10.479 --> 01:22:15.560
Man have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot

1463
01:22:15.600 --> 01:22:19.239
activity Around, Oakridge? Oregon and you think to. Yourself, MAN

1464
01:22:19.319 --> 01:22:21.720
i would love to get out in those woods and

1465
01:22:21.800 --> 01:22:26.439
experience it for. Myself, well guess what this year you

1466
01:22:26.560 --> 01:22:30.239
Can if this is interesting to, you stay tuned because

1467
01:22:30.239 --> 01:22:34.800
it's pretty. Cool Sasquatch Summer fest is coming Up july

1468
01:22:35.079 --> 01:22:38.479
tenth through the, eleventh twenty twenty. Six it's going to

1469
01:22:38.560 --> 01:22:42.439
be even better than the previous year's reason number, One

1470
01:22:43.079 --> 01:22:45.600
i'll be one of the. Speakers it's gonna be. Wild

1471
01:22:45.760 --> 01:22:51.159
i'll Probably i'll say. This there may be stuff you

1472
01:22:51.199 --> 01:22:56.720
haven't heard anywhere, else because let's just say sometimes it's,

1473
01:22:57.520 --> 01:22:59.640
well you just got to be. There we'll leave it

1474
01:22:59.720 --> 01:23:02.199
that more about looking For bigfoot in The Oakridge.

1475
01:23:02.199 --> 01:23:03.079
Woods now check this.

1476
01:23:03.119 --> 01:23:08.880
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1477
01:23:08.920 --> 01:23:13.439
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1478
01:23:13.439 --> 01:23:17.479
go to the, festival but you can also sign up

1479
01:23:17.760 --> 01:23:24.239
for a track deep in the wild forest outside Of

1480
01:23:24.239 --> 01:23:29.279
oakridge With Jason kenzie to The bigfoot spots to look For.

1481
01:23:29.359 --> 01:23:33.399
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1482
01:23:33.720 --> 01:23:37.560
yes this will also be filmed for the next chapter

1483
01:23:37.680 --> 01:23:41.079
in his documentary, series which Is searching For. Sasquatch this

1484
01:23:41.119 --> 01:23:43.800
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1485
01:23:43.880 --> 01:23:48.680
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1486
01:23:49.039 --> 01:23:53.039
head on over To Sasquatch summerfest dot com and listeners

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with the cost. There appreciate, That. PRISCILLA i hope to

1494
01:24:17.880 --> 01:24:22.199
see you at the booth In oakridge this. Year we

1495
01:24:22.239 --> 01:24:24.520
can talk about your. Encounter was able to talk to

1496
01:24:24.600 --> 01:24:28.119
so many people last year and the year. Before it

1497
01:24:28.239 --> 01:24:31.199
is an incredible. Time you're not going to want to miss,

1498
01:24:31.199 --> 01:24:35.640
it And i'll see you. There before we wrap this,

1499
01:24:35.680 --> 01:24:38.159
EPISODE i want to say something directly to a very

1500
01:24:38.199 --> 01:24:41.840
specific group of. Listeners if you're in the, military any

1501
01:24:41.880 --> 01:24:45.039
branch or, forces and if you've seen something that no

1502
01:24:45.079 --> 01:24:48.279
one can, explain or if you're A national park ranger

1503
01:24:48.439 --> 01:24:52.000
or forestry worker who's been told to stay, quiet if

1504
01:24:52.000 --> 01:24:55.199
you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the,

1505
01:24:55.199 --> 01:24:58.479
ground or if you're with THE fbi a federal, agency

1506
01:24:58.720 --> 01:25:01.880
or working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not

1507
01:25:02.000 --> 01:25:05.199
allowed to talk. About and if you're a, firefighter, paramedic

1508
01:25:05.359 --> 01:25:08.640
or search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found

1509
01:25:08.640 --> 01:25:11.640
tracks that didn't make. Sense if you're in the logging

1510
01:25:11.680 --> 01:25:15.520
industry on a remote oil, field or a trucker with

1511
01:25:15.640 --> 01:25:19.479
government contracts and you've had something happen that you've never

1512
01:25:19.520 --> 01:25:22.760
told a. Soul and if you're a, biologist a wildlife,

1513
01:25:22.760 --> 01:25:26.439
specialist or a field researcher under contract who has found

1514
01:25:26.520 --> 01:25:30.159
evidence you're not allowed to. Report if you're a, pastor a,

1515
01:25:30.199 --> 01:25:33.640
missionary or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw

1516
01:25:33.680 --> 01:25:37.079
something that shook your, faith or if you work in the, SHADOWS,

1517
01:25:37.279 --> 01:25:41.279
CIA nsa or anything with clearance and you've seen what

1518
01:25:41.359 --> 01:25:44.880
the public, hasn't THEN i want to talk to, you

1519
01:25:45.880 --> 01:25:50.720
even if it's. Anonymous you can reach me At Bigfoot

1520
01:25:50.760 --> 01:25:54.000
society at gmail dot. Com the world needs to hear

1521
01:25:54.159 --> 01:25:57.720
what you've been forced to carry. Alone and you're not.

1522
01:25:57.840 --> 01:26:04.079
Alone you've got the, story we've got the. Mic see

1523
01:26:04.119 --> 01:26:06.319
you in the. Woods thank you for listening to this

1524
01:26:06.359 --> 01:26:09.520
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1525
01:26:09.640 --> 01:26:12.239
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1526
01:26:12.279 --> 01:26:15.399
think and that the truth is often hiding just beyond

1527
01:26:15.439 --> 01:26:18.439
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1536
01:26:38.600 --> 01:26:40.760
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1537
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1546
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1547
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1548
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