June 17, 2026

7-FOOT BLUE-EYED SASQUATCH COMMUNICATES WITH HUNTER NEAR DRAKE MOUNTAIN, MASSACHUSETTS | ARCHIVES

7-FOOT BLUE-EYED SASQUATCH COMMUNICATES WITH HUNTER NEAR DRAKE MOUNTAIN, MASSACHUSETTS | ARCHIVES

Originally released as Episode 523 of Bigfoot Society on 9/10/24. A lifelong hunter entered the woods near Drake Mountain expecting to track deer. What he found instead stood over seven feet tall. In this unforgettable Bigfoot Society episode,...

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Season 1

Originally released as Episode 523 of Bigfoot Society on 9/10/24.

A lifelong hunter entered the woods near Drake Mountain expecting to track deer.


What he found instead stood over seven feet tall.


In this unforgettable Bigfoot Society episode, Air Force veteran Ernie Davieau shares an extended face-to-face encounter with a blue-eyed Sasquatch deep in the mountains of western Massachusetts. The being used hand gestures, made massive whoop vocalizations, and appeared to communicate with another creature hidden in the forest nearby.


Ernie describes every detail:
• The exact moment he realized it wasn’t human
• The hand signals used during the encounter
• The terrifying sounds coming from behind the stone wall
• A second cinnamon-colored Sasquatch moving through the trees
• Other witnesses from the same Massachusetts mountain region

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And he may put it both his hands up to

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his mouth like the megaphone thing that you would do,

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like yelling, and he makes these three whoop noises. Nobody's

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ever seen them do that, nobody, you know, it was unbelievable.

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You might as well just go down to the zoo

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and stand next to the lion cage and let one

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of them roar. It was equal. It was equal to that,

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But he made three whoop noises in between each one.

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It was a second and a half.

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You're listening to Big Flat Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to

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bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've

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seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers

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to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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To stay with us.

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The privilege of talking to Ernie Davio. He's an individual

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from out in the New England area, and he's got

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an interesting encounter that he had happened to him and

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he'll be sharing that today. But Ernie, it's a privilege

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to finally get to talk to you. And how are

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you doing today, sir.

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I'm doing pretty good. It's privileges speak with you today.

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With my past history on hunting, I've hunted pretty much

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all my life up until this point here. An Air

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Force veteran, I hold not just one black belt, but

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I hold four separate black belts and four different styles,

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and that that will come into play down the line

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here when you know, I've done quite a few of

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these podcasts and people always ask me, They go, why

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didn't you run? You know, and I'll get into that

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fight or flight thing here. But this actually happened in

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the state of Massage. Shoot. This up near Blamford Drake

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Mountain actually between Blamford and Granville, and it borders Connecticut

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within a couple of miles. I had hunted as many

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many times the area that I chose to hunt. I

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usually hunted by myself in that area also, and I

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chose it because it was pretty steep in history and

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a lot of people were I don't want to stay afraid,

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but we'll just say really hesitant to go in there.

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And it didn't bother me. I had no I really,

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I don't want to say didn't believe in Bigfoot, because

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I seen the Patty film many years ago, many many

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years ago, even prior to that, when I was a

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young kid, and I just figured, well, that's probably just

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one of them in you know, by now there's no more,

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and that's how way far away from me. So but boy,

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it would be pretty cool to see one. So that

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was a long time before this had actually happened. And

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so I would push off, And people do this when

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you're out there hiking or whatever. You pretty much push

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off anything. It's not obvious. It's human done by humans,

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you know. And because there's a lot of things that

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animals in the woods do not do. These beings, I

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like that word, beings do do things. Some are very

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subtle and some are not so subtle. But I had

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planned my hunt in that area for that particular morning.

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It was the last week of a shotgun season. Actually,

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it was like the last day or two of shotgun

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season in the state of Massachusetts, which is I believe

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the first week of December. My plan to get in

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there was to come up from the Grandville Cobble Mountain

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Reservoir side of Drake Mountain and gain access to the

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top of the mountain from there. The mountain is actually

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on two sides. It has apple orchards and the other

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sides obviously have the have the reservoirs and a lot

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of woods, a lot of ravines, gorges, everything else. It'll

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get you lost or hurt if you're not watching now.

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But I had figured out that the weather patterns for

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that day were going to be fairly nice, low temperatures

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and the wind would be blowing in my favor if

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I entered that area from the Grandville Reservoir access road,

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which I did, and I had already scouted that area out,

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and I had figured out that the deer going to

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be vetted down and what I used to like to

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call like a stonehenge there. They're the Massachusetts Hilltown Hikers

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Association has hiking trails up through there now and they

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were nice enough to actually post a video of that

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actual route that I took up in through there, and

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those rocks are one of them, I think forty p

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call it's called Lookout Rock or a ladder rock or

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something like that. I don't I don't recall ever seeing

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them that those names before anywhere. But at the bottom

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of the mountain there was a big boulder there that

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I used for a marker, and that that boulder we

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never knew who painted it, but it was it would

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have the three faces of three different Indians on that boulder.

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As you approached it from the side, from the right side,

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it would be one, then as you've got in front

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of it, be another, and as you got by it

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be another. And right after that there was an old

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fire road in there and it gained access to the

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top of the mountain. Later on I learned that that

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actually was called part of Unclemit's Path that goes all

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the way up into Pittsfield and up into the areas

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that you're familiar with that you kind of grew up

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in and everything, and went across the Russell Mountains Montgomery

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Mountains all the way up and through there. But I

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learned that later on after my encounter, because that was

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my thing is I never went and studied and looked

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at looked or anything that really had too much to

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do with Sasquatch. It was all about me, Why did

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this happen to me, and you'll you'll hear in the

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story that generally your your account, your encounter is only

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about maybe between five and eleven seconds long, and that's

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pretty much it. And had that happened to me, I

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would have been probably like the hero down local bar.

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I could have gone down and got a couple of drinks.

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But it didn't go that way, Okay, so I basically

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had to shut up for a very long time. But anyways,

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as I got onto the access road to go by

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the Grandville Reservoir, and I just passed by my my

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my cutoff point here at the I call it Indian Rock,

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and took my left up. I knew, I knew from

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scouting area the deer were going to be bedded down

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up near these boulders. And as I got closer to

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those boulders, it was it was kind of crispy out,

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just a little bit this a little little tiny bit

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of frost out there, and I could see my breath,

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and sure enough, as I got closer to them boulders,

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I jumped the deer. And anybody who haunts knows what

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deer sound like, we call it jumping up. They just

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top right up to their feet and maybe stomped their

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foot or their feet or whatever, and then they start

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to take off a little bit, and that's what I heard.

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I knew it was probably three or four deer anyways,

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and they proceeded to travel be traveling in the same

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direction that I was headed, across the top of the

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mountain to the other side where the apple orchards were.

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So my objective knowing the area was to just let

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him simmer down for a minute or two because they

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couldn't identify me, and then try to get out in

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front of them to set up an ambush point as

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they came through. That's what I was hoping for. So

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what I did was I started doing what I like

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to call a true step, rather than walk like a bipedal,

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like a man would walk or a woman would walk,

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you know, I walked tow heel, so it sounded more

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like a poor legged animal. Whenever I felt that they

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might hear me, and I tried my best not to

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be heard. So any place, there's a lot of shale

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on that pathway there, and a lot of rock out crops,

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I want to say, so you really kind of have

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to watch your putting a little bit there so I

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was using that method, and I had them now on

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my right hand side. I couldn't see them because of

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the ridge line, but I could definitely hear them, you know,

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in hindsight, I could hear something on the other side

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of them, too, but I passed it off to being

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possibly another deer, you know, driving along with them. Some

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hunters will say, you know, deer don't push dear. That's

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not true. I've seen them do it. I've actually seen

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doe push a buck, drive a buck in a certain direction,

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actually rate up by me. But in this case here,

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that's what I figured it was. And probably from those

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boulders to where I was hoping to get to was

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probably maybe two to three hundred yards, i'd say, But

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you've got to operate really slow, and that path will

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go straight down towards that apple orchard straight ahead, but

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then it curves to the right, right where I wanted

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to set up my hand, which it does a dog leg,

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and they're in between the dog leg there there's a

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stone wall, okay, and there's a set of pines that

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would be on my side if they were going to

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come through there. That's where I wanted to be, and

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that's where the brook kind of came out of the

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mountain right there. So I proceeded to watch my wind

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direction move slowly, be as quiet as I could. I

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got out there. I managed to get out there. I

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was really kind of proud of myself doing something like that.

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And I could hear them coming through these small saplings

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towards that stone wall. So I had set up my

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my ambush point right there. I had a twelve gage

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shotgun semi auto on me, and I crouched down a

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little bit and had my shotgun point to rate towards

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that stone walk. I knew they were going to come

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over that stone wall, and those those saplings, most of

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them were beach nuts, so it made a lot of

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sense that they were going to come in there. They're

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going to probably simmer down a little bit, and then

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they were going to come over that stone wall, and

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i'd have my harvest. Well. I heard them come in,

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and of course approaching that little cut off point right there,

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I made sure that I looked around and there wasn't

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anything in the vicinity. I didn't want to scare anything

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else that was there. Have them gear running back in

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the same direction they originally came from. And it wasn't

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anything there. I didn't see anything there. So now I'm

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set up facing that stone wall, and to my left

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on my nine o'clock about thirty five yards from me,

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I noticed movement at the base of a tree. Now

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I'm I'm thinking to myself, well, you know, really, what

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can that be? And I look at it and I

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thought it could have been a deer. So I got

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my twelve gage point at that I'm waiting for to

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move and get up a little bit, because a lot

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of some people frown on shooting a deer regardless while

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it's laying down or sleeping. And it just started getting

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up a little bit more. But during this whole time

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period here, this is just the beginning of it, I'm

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trying to remain cognizant of those deer on the other

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side of the stone wall. Now this so called deer

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started scrunching up to the tree more, and now I'm

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getting the impression that it is not a deer. It's

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a heavy bodied animal and it's more than likely a bear.

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You'll hear this a lot of times from people. They'll say,

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you know, they'll question somebody like myself and say, how

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can you mistake it for a bear. Really, as you

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go out of the woods, you might mistake a log

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for a bear or a deer or a rather or

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even a squirrel or whatever. It's very easy to be done.

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You know. You've got to be able to put something

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in that peg in a hole. You can't just kickling

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when you're carrying a weapon. You can't just assume that

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this is what it is and agree with yourself. You

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have to be looking for those cues. Well, it scrunched

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up to that tree quite a bit, and I'm thinking

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to myself, if it's a bear, I've got my shotguns

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back on it, because if it's a bear, I don't

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have a bear permit, and if it bum rushes me,

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I'm going to have to take action on it, you know.

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So then I see it getting really close to the tree,

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and this is my nine o'clock. Now, okay, And at

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that point it's kind of like up a little bit higher,

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but it's really close to that tree. And now I

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can make out this is the silhouette of a guy.

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That's what it is. It's a silhouette of a guy.

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So this is this is another hunter in here, and

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I'm going he must have been sleeping on the ground

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and I didn't notice him. And now he hears them

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deer coming through, because now you can hear them deer

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coming through pretty good. They're moving around in there, and

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he starts to stand up someone because I'm put my

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shotgun back on that area where the deer are. I'm

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confident that it's pretty much another hunter. But at the

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same time, I don't want to get shot because I

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know he's Massachusetts. He's got to have a shotgun on him.

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He probably bloated with buckshot instead of slugs. And if

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them deer come over that stone wall, the distance between him,

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and if they come in between him and I and

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he doesn't know I'm there, I'm gonna get shot. So

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I figure I'm going to move up, maybe, you know,

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just just a foot or two, just so that he

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can catch me as peripheral as something does try to

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come in between us and he's I'd say he's like

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three quarters of away standing, about three quarters are away standing,

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and all heck broke loose on the other side of

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that stone wall. I mean I could hear limbs, not

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just branches. I could hear limbs snap, and I can

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hear boulders clanging against each other. And at that point

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I'm looking back at him see reaction, and he's fully

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standing there with his head on the other side of

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the tree, facing away from me. And it's at that

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point right there, I'm saying to myself, this is absolutely

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the biggest man I've ever seen in my life. I said,

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this is an unbelievable I said, I've got to I've

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got to take a marker on the tree. I've got

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to find a twig, I got to find a branch.

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I got to find something in the tree so that

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I can measure it if everything turns out okay. Later on,

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and I actually seen a piece of moss on that tree,

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good side piece of moss, So I put that in

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my memory bank, that piece of moss and this, this, this, that,

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this little ruckus on the other side of the stonewall

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was going on, and I'm trying to maintain between the

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two of them there because I'm still not so sure.

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I mean, I don't know anybody. It would be like

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right off, right off the bat well, that's a that's

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a sasquatch or whatever. I'm still kind of on the line,

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the borderline now ready to fall off that fence that

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this This is absolutely the largest man I've ever seen

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in my life. And I've seen some big guys, you know.

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I hacked my you know, six ft eight. You look

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at people around six foot eight. You know, we'll get

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some of these basketball players, you know. But he was huge.

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And that's when he he had his right hand on

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the tree and he had his right leg on my

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side of the tree. He put that right leg out

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and he leaned out on my side of the tree,

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and he looked directly over that stone wall. Well, when

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he did that, he caught me in his peripheral. That

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is just what I planned if there was another hunter.

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And when he caught me in his periphal, he looked

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over at me, looked back across at that stone wall,

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and then snapped his head right back at me like

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he like like he like he like he couldn't believe

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what he was seeing because I was not hidden. I

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was pretty much in the open. He just couldn't believe

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that I was standing there. And that's where if you

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everybody listening remembers when I said, that would have been great.

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I could have I could have gone to the local bar,

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got myself a beer, and said, I seen uh sasquatch.

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I knew instantly, instantly when it looked at me what

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it was beyond a shadow of a doubt at thirty

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five thirty six yards, i'd be on the shadow of

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a doubt. I would have got myself a beer. But no, Well,

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he had to do something else. He took a full

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step around that tree, bringing his left leg around and

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facing me directly, and he put both hands up in

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in front of him, between the chest and the waist,

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elbows in, elbows touching his sides. I will say because

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his arms weren't straight out, his arm were not straight

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up above his head. They're in between chest and waist,

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and his elbows were worked in towards his torso, and

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his palms were facing me, and his fingers were together,

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his four pointer fingers were together, pointing straight up in

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the air, and he pumped them twice. I got my

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twelve gage right on him. I don't know what's going

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to happen. I'm just thinking to myself, you know, I mean,

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what do you think to yourself? You know, I'm like

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this thing bum rushes me. I'm I'm in trouble, and

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I I'm thinking also about them deer on the other

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side of the stone wall. Believer or not. I'm just

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saying to myself, there's I think there's more than one.

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I think there's more than one. I wasn't understanding some

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things like that, but I'm thinking there was. He proceeds

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to give me tholves that hand signal there, and he

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takes a step towards me, and he's he's walking gingerly.

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I had lowered my shotgun because that's the hand signal

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he gave me, you know, and it's disturbing. It should

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be disturbing to some people. He knew how to approach me.

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He took his right hand, made a fist with his

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pointer finger sticking out, and he pointed directly to my chest.

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And he pointed directly to his chest. And again, I'm

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taking this stuff in and I'm like, you know, unbelievable.

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I mean, figure it out yourself, folks, who are you

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gonna tell this to? So he takes he's still kind

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of walking towards me. I got my twelve gage now

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slung over my shoulder, hanging off my shoulder, and he

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puts his hands out again as like the first time,

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except he puts his palms down towards the ground, and

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he's looking directly at me, directly at me, and he's

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closing different distance. He's he's pretty much about i'd say,

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more than halfway to me, and then he turns his

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palms up. Yeah. I took it to mean that they

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didn't have me food. He was looking for food. You know,

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I do have interpretations of the hand signals that he

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did to me. I call him he because he didn't

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have memories, all right. I check him out because, let's

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face it, you know, he's kind of checking me out.

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I'm checking him out. I didn't want him to get

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the wrong impression or anything like that. So as he

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does that, I'm I'm I'm thinking that there's going to

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be a point here where I'm going to have to

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make some kind of hand signals back to him, because

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this is at that level. At that time, it was

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at that level. I had checked my before I slung

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my shotgun. I just want to throw it in there

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is I had check there's a compass on my on

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that shotgun, not that it really works. It was a

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hand me down from my great uncle, but there was

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a compass on air. I was trying to get in

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as much information as I possibly could. I let my

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breath out so I could see which way the wind

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was actually blowing that that morning, I could see my breath.

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I would I would. I also looked at my watch.

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I can't tell you the exact time today, but I

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can tell you it was about ten or eleven minutes

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after the hour that this happened that I looked at

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my watch. At that point, like I said, he he

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kept walking towards me, and now he was extremely close,

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and he gave me another another hand signal, and that

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one was he pointed over my left should, pointed over

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my right shoulder. And at that point there I figured

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that that's probably it's going to be my turn to

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try to do something back, you know, like I said,

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I have. I had no knowledge of the forest people

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or these beings or anything before this zero on them.

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I didn't. I didn't know what they could do, or

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what they understood or anything. But this one obviously appeared

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to understand quite a bit. And things have changed for

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me now I understand a lot more about them. But

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I parlayed back to him, Yes, indeed, we're what I

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deemed to be equal, because he pointed to me first

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you know what I'm saying. And then he planted himself.

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So I deemed that that was an important gesture right there,

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that that's cool where brothers were equal. Then I took

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my hand and I put my palms the same position

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as his and pointed him down to the ground. I

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had no food. I did not ask him for food.

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I just said I did not have any food, and

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then I pointed over his shoulders. At that point, I'd

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say that he was probably five yards from me, and

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I can see the color of his eyes, I could

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see the wrinkles on his face. I could see absolutely

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of the length of his hair on his arms, how

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much hair he had before and after the knuckles, Which

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is kind of hilarious to me because I've been doing

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this publicly now for a couple of years, and it's

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just hilarious how people just you know, you're looking at

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him at fifty yards and trust me, while getting to this,

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you can't tell where the hair startups or stops or

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heads or anything. So at this point, pretty much he's

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close enough to me. And this is another thing that

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this does really bring a question in my mind, why

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did he do this next thing? Why? I just nobody

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has an explanation, and everybody wants to say this or that,

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but I'll tell you what he did. It was close

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enough to me, and at that point I was standing

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pretty much right next to him. I was below his

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shoulder he was. I was a little bit above his bicep,

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but below his shoulder. Like I said, I could see

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the hair. At first I thought that hair was black,

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but the sun was hitting it a little bit. I

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just see the length of it. It was dark, dark,

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dark dark dark brown, dark dark dark brown. Skin tone

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pretty much the same thing. You would say it was

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ash colored, even maybe even black. Okay, some people would

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say black. Some people would say ash colored, or they'll

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say like black. That's another thing of it. When I

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listened to people, it's like what is like an apple pie?

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There is no such thing as you cannot describe something

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by saying, well, it's light yellow or whatever. You've got

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to come closer to that when you're describing something for

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an artist or anything. But he held his hand out

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down between the two of us, Tom up and I

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looked at his palm. I have no idea, absolutely no

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idea why he did this. Some people say he was

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asking me for his gun. Believe me. He didn't need

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a gun. Okay, he didn't need a weapon of any sorts.

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I do not believe that was it. And when you

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hear this, you'll probably agree with this. At that point,

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when he was reaching his hand up for me to

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look at his palm and showing me his palm, I

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was dropping my hand to my side arm. I carried

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a sidearm on me and my right hand had the

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grip on my handgun was just touching my palm. I

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was just starting to get a purchase on it. He

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didn't like that, he tapped his palm. He wanted me

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to look at his palm, so I stopped doing that

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because I was watching his eyes. I'm a trained fighter.

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I was watching his shoulders, his body movement, and that

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kind of scared me when he did when he did that.

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But now I'm all in, I'm looking at his palm,

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and I'm gonna tell everybody right now, Okay, their hands

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are like our hands. There's no doubt about it. Absolutely.

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You know, if you hear somebody else that was just

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close with me, I'm pretty one hundred and twent sure

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they're going to tell you the same thing. But if

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they seen the palm, which I have never seen, never

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heard of anybody. This is what I seen. They had

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the same mark He had the same markings on his

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hands on his palm that we have in our palms,

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the same markings except for a lifeline. There was no

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life lying there. And I'm thinking, was that the reason

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why he tapped his hand, that he was adamant about

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this whole situation. I don't know why, why would he

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do that? Yeah, it was pretty much at that point there.

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I looked at him and he nodded his head at me,

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like bowed his head almost at me, a specter or something,

454
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because I think maybe they had something to do with

455
00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:04.400
the double take he did out of me, like how

456
00:29:04.480 --> 00:29:06.720
did you get this far? How did you get right here?

457
00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:10.839
And he looked over that stone wall, and that's where

458
00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:14.359
I was really able to measure myself on his body height,

459
00:29:14.480 --> 00:29:17.319
you know. Next next thing where I stood on him,

460
00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:19.880
and he may put both his hands up to his

461
00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:22.160
mouth like like the megaphone thing that you would do,

462
00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:26.799
like yelling, and he makes these three whoof noises. Nobody's

463
00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:32.400
ever seen him do that, nobody, you know, it was unbelievable.

464
00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:34.000
He might as well just go down to the zoo

465
00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:36.400
and stand next to the lion cage and let one

466
00:29:36.440 --> 00:29:39.480
of them roar. It was equal, it was equal to that.

467
00:29:39.920 --> 00:29:43.680
But he made three whoof noises, and in between each

468
00:29:43.759 --> 00:29:46.400
one it was a second and a half. And people

469
00:29:46.440 --> 00:29:48.559
are gonna say, well, how do you know that. I'm

470
00:29:48.599 --> 00:29:51.119
pretty good with that. I'm pretty good at counting rounds

471
00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:53.680
being shot off, and I play a little bit of

472
00:29:53.759 --> 00:29:57.359
music myself, so it's all about keeping beat. But it's

473
00:29:57.359 --> 00:29:59.839
about a second and half in between each wolf noise,

474
00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:06.279
looks right back at me, nods his head, looks back

475
00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:12.119
over the stone wall, and he whistles. And I've heard

476
00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:17.200
that whistle before. That is the whistle that myself and

477
00:30:17.240 --> 00:30:21.039
my hunting party growing up. That has sounded just like

478
00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:28.440
a human whistle, just like a human whistle, and it

479
00:30:28.680 --> 00:30:31.319
was like a come on, was so like a that

480
00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:35.039
kind of a whistle. And he motioned with his right

481
00:30:35.160 --> 00:30:39.440
hand by swinging his arm to whomever was on the

482
00:30:39.480 --> 00:30:41.359
other side of as a stone wall that he wanted

483
00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:45.559
them to go in the direction where basically he originally

484
00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:50.160
came from. But it looks further out, okay, Obviously he

485
00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:52.039
could see whatever it was on the other side of

486
00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:54.759
the stone wall. He knew they were already there. He

487
00:30:54.839 --> 00:30:56.359
was taller than me as we could see, but he

488
00:30:56.440 --> 00:30:59.400
knew they were already there. And he gave that hand signal,

489
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:03.519
looked back at me one last time, and he didn't

490
00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:07.920
run off. He didn't speed walk off or anything like that.

491
00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:13.960
He just kind of smoothly just walked away from me

492
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:20.440
and went past that tree where he where I originally

493
00:31:20.480 --> 00:31:27.640
seen him to equal out probably another to an about

494
00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:30.720
the fifty five sixty yard mark. I'd say, right in

495
00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:33.599
there between him and I at that point when he

496
00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:38.200
got to his standstill out there and he wasn't there

497
00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:46.240
maybe I don't know. I'll say I'll say four seconds.

498
00:31:46.839 --> 00:31:50.599
And I heard this freight train coming through them saplings

499
00:31:50.599 --> 00:31:52.880
on the other side of that stone wall, headed towards

500
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:56.440
Drake Brook. They had to cross that dog leg, and

501
00:31:56.519 --> 00:31:59.400
I knew that, and I knew that this was not

502
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:04.160
a deer, that this was something very big, much larger

503
00:32:04.200 --> 00:32:08.319
than a bear, and it was booking. It was just

504
00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:12.559
slaughtering trees as it went through. It didn't care and

505
00:32:12.799 --> 00:32:15.319
it was like probably going through them trees like a

506
00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:20.200
parkour master, like just grabbing things and move it out.

507
00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:25.160
When I seen him him flash over that that brook,

508
00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:29.440
or this one here, I should say, flash over the path,

509
00:32:29.799 --> 00:32:31.720
the uncle of its path, that dog legs back down,

510
00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:34.400
then over the brook. That's when it was more clear.

511
00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:39.640
And this thing was I'm talking fast. This thing could

512
00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:44.079
outrun a deer, absolutely no problem. This thing was was

513
00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:48.480
heels and elbows. Well, we got over to the other

514
00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:52.640
one and they're kind of standing forty five angled towards me,

515
00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:56.119
with the big one, the dark one on the left

516
00:32:56.119 --> 00:32:59.319
hand side, and this one here was smaller, not that

517
00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:03.000
much smaller, but smaller. And I'll tell you how big

518
00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:05.960
that one, how how I'm guessed I had to guestimate

519
00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:08.759
that one eric but that one was like a cinnamon colored.

520
00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:13.720
And this is when I heard them do this stupid chattering,

521
00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:18.480
murmuring thing that I didn't know what it was until

522
00:33:18.640 --> 00:33:22.079
sometime much after that that I heard the Sierra sounds.

523
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:28.240
That's what I witnessed. And it pointed I don't know

524
00:33:28.240 --> 00:33:29.880
if it was true the other one out or what

525
00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:33.839
it was doing, but it pointed directly towards me and

526
00:33:33.920 --> 00:33:37.039
that little old one. He looked at me, and he

527
00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:39.000
looked at big one. He did a double take on

528
00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:42.079
me also, and I'm like, well, I kind of got

529
00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:45.200
rated out there, but you know that could be what's

530
00:33:45.240 --> 00:33:48.240
going on, Like, you know, they're trying to pull me

531
00:33:48.319 --> 00:33:52.359
away from obviously the kill that they got with the deer,

532
00:33:53.799 --> 00:33:55.920
and he'd made a hand signal to that one to

533
00:33:57.039 --> 00:33:59.960
do a like a semi shirt. Look, he tells me

534
00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:03.559
to go around behind that person over there, but he

535
00:34:03.599 --> 00:34:07.319
pointed towards his chest, like you go out and around

536
00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:09.280
that way, and then he pointed to his own chest

537
00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:11.639
with his right hand and point of ringer again, and

538
00:34:11.800 --> 00:34:14.280
I'm gonna go this way to the left. So one

539
00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:18.440
swung left, one swung right, And I'm just a little

540
00:34:18.480 --> 00:34:25.320
bit concerned that for some unknown reason they're gonna thank me,

541
00:34:25.400 --> 00:34:27.360
maybe to watch me so I don't take their dear

542
00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:32.039
kill or whatever. But I knew, I knew that I

543
00:34:32.119 --> 00:34:36.440
had to because I was in awe. Quite truthfully, I

544
00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:41.559
was in awe and I had to sort of unfreeze

545
00:34:41.599 --> 00:34:45.760
myself from up from that state there because I needed

546
00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:49.199
as much information as I possibly could, like this wasn't enough,

547
00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:51.960
and I wanted to go over and measure up on

548
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:56.719
the tree, which I did. I walked over to the tree,

549
00:34:57.000 --> 00:34:59.079
and no, I didn't get on the ground. People asked

550
00:34:59.079 --> 00:35:02.639
that question. Did you on the ground and look for tracts? Nah,

551
00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:05.679
you don't see. You don't see anything coming at you

552
00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:08.880
when you're on the ground. Okay, you've got to be

553
00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:11.440
standing up if you want to see something plowing through

554
00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:14.360
the woods coming straight at you like it means business.

555
00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:16.920
But I found my mark on the tree, the little

556
00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:22.159
piece of moss, and I took today. I'm a butcher,

557
00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:25.840
so I can make some type of measurements. But I

558
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:28.280
stood next to the tree, measured myself off with my

559
00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:31.440
hand on the tree, took a half a step back

560
00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:33.480
so I could leave my hand on the tree, and

561
00:35:33.559 --> 00:35:35.920
I measured up from my hand with my other hand,

562
00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:38.719
and I come up with seven foot eight inches tall.

563
00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:45.079
And I guess to me that this being which had

564
00:35:45.159 --> 00:35:49.280
blue eyes. By the way, for everybody listening, I think

565
00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:52.239
maybe there's only two more accounts that are out there,

566
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:55.559
or three of them that are, you know, blue eyed,

567
00:35:55.920 --> 00:36:01.599
But they had blue eyes. And I figured it somewhere's

568
00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:07.320
north of five hundred pounds in excellent shape. And when

569
00:36:07.320 --> 00:36:12.679
I say excellent shape, i'm I'm sure that if it

570
00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:16.159
wanted to, it could have just picked me up and

571
00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:19.320
used me as a spear, and I'm six foot three

572
00:36:19.480 --> 00:36:23.000
and probably at that time I weighed two hundred pounds anyway,

573
00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:27.480
as I was younger back then in better shape, but

574
00:36:27.559 --> 00:36:30.599
I figured I weighed like two hundred, two hundred and

575
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:33.960
nine pounds somewhere's around there. But I could guarantee you

576
00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:41.199
that this thing could easily grab, grab, you know, even

577
00:36:41.280 --> 00:36:45.039
grab like the Hulk, you know, the wrestler the Hulk,

578
00:36:45.559 --> 00:36:48.840
and just throw him completely out of a ring. These

579
00:36:48.880 --> 00:36:55.760
things are just super super big. That's that's pretty much

580
00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:59.039
it here? Am I again? Where who was I going

581
00:36:59.119 --> 00:37:02.320
to actually tell this? Who was going to listen to

582
00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:04.760
something like this? Right?

583
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:11.119
It's an incredible one. What kind of facial emotions did

584
00:37:11.159 --> 00:37:14.760
it have while it was making all those hand gestures

585
00:37:14.800 --> 00:37:15.199
towards you?

586
00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:19.840
That's an excellent question. That's a really excellent question. And

587
00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:24.000
nobody has ever asked that question before. And this has

588
00:37:24.039 --> 00:37:26.159
been out there for about four years now. Just so

589
00:37:26.239 --> 00:37:28.840
your listeners can understand this, how long it took me

590
00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:32.079
to come forward with this. If you can picture a

591
00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:37.360
teacher in first grade, will say even in second grade,

592
00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:40.320
if they're good at their job, when they're teaching something,

593
00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:44.000
they look at their student, like they're looking for that flash,

594
00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:47.679
like that light to go on. That's what it was like.

595
00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:50.480
It was looking. It was looking at me from the

596
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:55.440
beginning like hold on a second here, you know, until

597
00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:57.840
it started doing all the hand gusters. It was very

598
00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:04.519
it was it was a peaceful encounter. It was it's

599
00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:07.440
called it like a teaching moment in a way. It

600
00:38:07.519 --> 00:38:10.920
wanted me to know its intentions, and it did that

601
00:38:11.079 --> 00:38:14.199
very well. That's the way that it looked at me.

602
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:16.239
I don't know if that is a good example or not,

603
00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:19.079
but when you look at a kid and you kind

604
00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:21.280
of like you're waiting for that life to go on,

605
00:38:21.440 --> 00:38:24.360
like do you understand? And then when the life goes

606
00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:29.119
on you could you continue from there? Wow?

607
00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:33.119
That so it was definitely trying to It was hoping

608
00:38:33.199 --> 00:38:36.800
that you maybe would get what it was trying to

609
00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:40.639
convey through the hand motions. I would take away from

610
00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:44.880
that is what you saw. Would you Are you able

611
00:38:44.920 --> 00:38:47.559
to put it in a in a category of of

612
00:38:47.719 --> 00:38:52.159
more something that was more human or more ape or

613
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:56.440
was it its own special that sort of thing.

614
00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:05.639
That's great. Yeah, we have a lot of things that

615
00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:09.559
happened to to us when we have a trauma or

616
00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:12.360
anything like that. It's called uncanny valley, right, And it's

617
00:39:12.360 --> 00:39:15.079
crazy when you when you hear people, uh, you know,

618
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:19.320
they're they're adamant, they're they're very sure themselves on something

619
00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:22.440
like this. But keep in mind, you're looking at time,

620
00:39:22.519 --> 00:39:24.559
you're looking at distance, you're looking at light and conditions,

621
00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:27.880
you're looking at uncanny valley things like that, and then

622
00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:30.800
you're looking at the description that people might say, well,

623
00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:34.800
it's nose was like ape like, so now we've got

624
00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:38.719
that whole thing maybe programmed into our head's ape looking now,

625
00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:41.440
I can tell you right now is what I was

626
00:39:41.480 --> 00:39:43.719
looking at is if you looked up kind of like

627
00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:47.039
a solo man, which hardly anybody's ever heard of. But

628
00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:49.239
if you look up like a solo man, it's like

629
00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:54.599
a cross between a cave man, a Neanderthal, a Native

630
00:39:54.599 --> 00:39:59.159
American because of the cheekbones and stuff, and an African

631
00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:02.679
American with the skin tone in the nose that it

632
00:40:02.760 --> 00:40:04.840
was kind of flattened out just a little bit, just

633
00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:10.719
a little bit, you know. So it was like stepping

634
00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:16.880
through and I had a chance. I actually was able

635
00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:19.360
to speak with this gentleman. His name is Chief Earnest,

636
00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:23.360
and I won't get into the whole story of how

637
00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:25.079
I got to speak with him, but this is what

638
00:40:25.159 --> 00:40:30.039
we were talking about. And he said that I walked

639
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:33.239
in two worlds, I walked through the veil or whatever.

640
00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:38.119
I never understood any of that. But if we were

641
00:40:38.159 --> 00:40:40.599
to if we were to accept, just for a moment

642
00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:44.159
in our minds, that it was possible to do anything

643
00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:46.920
like that. And that's the question that he asked me.

644
00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:49.760
Did I notice anything around me that was different, or

645
00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:53.159
the color tones or anything like that. This was like,

646
00:40:54.159 --> 00:41:01.039
this thing looked like it belonged in a museum. That's

647
00:41:01.079 --> 00:41:02.719
all I can tell people. And it looks like it

648
00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:09.719
belonged in the museum. It was It was like if

649
00:41:11.599 --> 00:41:14.239
you if you knew something was missing, how would how

650
00:41:14.599 --> 00:41:16.199
but you didn't know what it was? How could you

651
00:41:16.199 --> 00:41:18.920
say it was missing? So we we have we have

652
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:22.599
the missing link? How do you know that? How do

653
00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:25.760
you know there's not more closer related to us? This

654
00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:32.599
thing quite obviously looked more way more human, way more

655
00:41:32.679 --> 00:41:39.000
human than ape, the hands, everything about it, way more

656
00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:42.519
human than an ape. I don't know if that that

657
00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:44.559
explains it well enough for you, But.

658
00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:49.119
Yeah, I'm looking at it's really weird because I'm looking

659
00:41:49.159 --> 00:41:52.880
at a picture like a it's probably a museum exhibit

660
00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:57.599
of what solo man is. And it's wild how the

661
00:41:57.639 --> 00:42:01.840
face I'm looking at fits a lot of the encounter

662
00:42:01.960 --> 00:42:06.639
descriptions that I've taken from over the years. It's nuts, dude.

663
00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:13.559
Yeah, And people and people people throw these things out

664
00:42:13.639 --> 00:42:16.480
because of their bias a lot of times that they

665
00:42:16.519 --> 00:42:19.639
don't remember. That's why I stuck around for so long,

666
00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:23.039
because I've always felt that I had some pertinent information

667
00:42:23.239 --> 00:42:25.639
that I hear a lot of people say, what would

668
00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:27.400
you do if you came across when you're walking down

669
00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:29.400
the trail. You're actually out looking for him, You're walking

670
00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:31.159
down the trail and you've seen one, and they said, well,

671
00:42:31.159 --> 00:42:33.639
I would you know, poop my pants or whatever. I'd

672
00:42:33.719 --> 00:42:36.639
turn a run away. How about the next The next

673
00:42:36.679 --> 00:42:42.159
thing is communication. Just remember this, this didn't really know

674
00:42:42.320 --> 00:42:45.400
what I really and knew what I was, but it

675
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:48.119
wasn't sure because it did that double take on me.

676
00:42:48.199 --> 00:42:51.760
It was coming over to check me out too. So

677
00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:54.960
when we when we think of it that way, there

678
00:42:55.079 --> 00:42:58.960
our next step should be communication. Now, this didn't this

679
00:42:59.039 --> 00:43:04.199
didn't know if I knew us Sasquatch language or force

680
00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:09.119
people language or samurai chatter. This wasn't. I don't wouldn't

681
00:43:09.400 --> 00:43:11.480
think that it was. I'm not thinking that it ever

682
00:43:11.639 --> 00:43:17.559
used mind talk with me. It was using sign language.

683
00:43:18.280 --> 00:43:22.760
They trade, They traded with Native Americans. What kind of

684
00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:25.719
sign language. It was pretty pretty easy, pretty primitive to

685
00:43:25.800 --> 00:43:29.159
be something that I would be probably teaching a child,

686
00:43:29.320 --> 00:43:31.920
you know, no no, no no with my finger or whatever,

687
00:43:32.639 --> 00:43:35.599
you know, or give it here or whatever, things like that.

688
00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:39.280
But yet they people throw out that will throw that

689
00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:43.199
description out when I say, if I say Neanderthal, you

690
00:43:43.199 --> 00:43:46.480
can throw solo man in there. You know, it's not

691
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:49.679
the Anerthal, but it still is Neanerthal, but it's not

692
00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:54.000
you know, and it's as pretty pretty close as much

693
00:43:54.000 --> 00:43:58.639
as you can possibly get. The skin tone was that's

694
00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:02.840
what everybody actually puts in there. Also the skin tone

695
00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:07.679
on top of it. And the nose you know, in

696
00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:10.199
the in the in the brow ridge. You know, the hair.

697
00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:12.239
The hair length varies a little bit, but the hair

698
00:44:12.320 --> 00:44:16.159
lens is going to vary with distance, in time and

699
00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:20.159
how much light you actually have. It's out there, because

700
00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:24.360
I can tell you right now that when that other

701
00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:26.280
one met up with the big one there, when the

702
00:44:26.320 --> 00:44:29.599
cinemic colored one. I couldn't really make out facial features

703
00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:34.159
on it. Okay, even though I've been all through this already,

704
00:44:34.599 --> 00:44:37.000
I have not. I could not really make out facial

705
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:39.480
features on that one. At fifty five sixty yards out,

706
00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:42.119
I couldn't do that, nor could I make out where

707
00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:45.559
the hair actually started and stopped. But when it was

708
00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:48.880
standing next to me, it's it's skin blended in so

709
00:44:49.039 --> 00:44:53.199
well with its hair that exactly where you have hair,

710
00:44:53.400 --> 00:44:56.880
like on the backs of your hand, It's exactly in

711
00:44:56.960 --> 00:45:03.559
the same position as theirs, except except that it's longer. Okay,

712
00:45:03.960 --> 00:45:07.920
So you take like ashy colored skin, it's dark dark

713
00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:10.400
dark dark brown, or whatever you want to say that

714
00:45:10.440 --> 00:45:14.559
it is. I'm a hair colored blind and you had

715
00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:19.199
you had six inches to that hair on there, and

716
00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:23.280
and it is hair, then you're gonna you're going to

717
00:45:23.320 --> 00:45:26.440
see that boy. You you really can't tell at a

718
00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:30.239
good distance how much hair it actually has on his

719
00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:35.360
face or its its whole body. You know, that's how

720
00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:37.920
well that it blends in. I say this too, as

721
00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:41.280
I've heard other encounters. I've got some friends, and that's

722
00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:43.159
how this is basically how we met that I had

723
00:45:43.239 --> 00:45:47.960
encounters it was clean. This thing didn't stink, it was clean.

724
00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:53.159
Its hands were clean, like it had gone down to

725
00:45:53.239 --> 00:45:56.440
the down to the reservoir and taken a bath. And

726
00:45:56.519 --> 00:46:05.039
I've heard encounters were people have actually seen one with

727
00:46:05.360 --> 00:46:09.719
a juvenile in like a creek or whatever, actually like

728
00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:15.920
playing around bathing. Why wouldn't they You know, some animals

729
00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:18.079
do get in the water. They might not be bathing,

730
00:46:18.159 --> 00:46:21.079
but you know they get in the water. Why wouldn't

731
00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:22.599
he get in the water too. I think they know

732
00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:24.800
the difference. This is smart enough to actually try to

733
00:46:24.800 --> 00:46:31.079
communicate with me. Then quite obviously we're underestimating them quite

734
00:46:31.239 --> 00:46:35.440
a bit, you know when people say, you know, jeez,

735
00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:40.559
you know, do you I've heard all kinds of ideas

736
00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:43.079
on how many are out in the woods and this

737
00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:46.480
and that. I've also seen handprints where it's actually grabbed

738
00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:49.039
the side of a hillside where they the people did

739
00:46:49.079 --> 00:46:52.280
the handprint of casting, say well it has short thumbs,

740
00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:55.559
not like ours. Well it grab something. You didn't get

741
00:46:55.559 --> 00:47:00.079
a complete casting of that. You know, there's still a

742
00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:03.679
lot of things out there about these beings. I think

743
00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:09.880
personally they have something to give to us. It's very spiritual,

744
00:47:10.599 --> 00:47:13.559
you know, Native Americans have talked about this that in

745
00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:18.920
the final days they refer to uh and being as

746
00:47:18.960 --> 00:47:22.639
big Brother will come again, dance around the sacred fire

747
00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:25.320
one more time before like the final battle.

748
00:47:25.719 --> 00:47:28.039
Are you for real, dude, for real?

749
00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:35.000
Yeah, I've never heard that. Wow? Really well? Yeah, And

750
00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:40.039
that's why, that's why the the opening into that sacred

751
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:43.280
space at pow Wow is always facing in the same

752
00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:47.119
direction no matter where you go in the world, that

753
00:47:47.199 --> 00:47:52.719
he will he will come again. And for me from

754
00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:57.639
what I what I've learned through people like Ron moorehead people,

755
00:47:57.719 --> 00:48:01.079
I won't go totally into it. And he talks about

756
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:03.880
the quantum physics and everything. And then we just had

757
00:48:03.880 --> 00:48:10.880
somebody who's passed over. Gosh, I Henry Fransis, Yes, sir, Yeah,

758
00:48:11.039 --> 00:48:14.159
he talks, he talks about it. And I've been in

759
00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:17.840
this I've been Yeah, I've been in this position now

760
00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:20.880
for thirty eight years. And I just came out a

761
00:48:20.880 --> 00:48:24.159
couple of years ago to talk about it because I

762
00:48:24.239 --> 00:48:28.159
have a message together and for people to throw it away,

763
00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:33.360
it's like, stop your banging on the trees. It's foolishness.

764
00:48:33.800 --> 00:48:37.719
They want nothing to do with us because we are warlike,

765
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:42.519
we cannot be trusted but once you once you they

766
00:48:42.559 --> 00:48:47.599
trust you, then they trust you and then they have

767
00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:50.280
something to give you. And it would probably be something

768
00:48:50.280 --> 00:48:53.039
that you just take to your grade with you because

769
00:48:53.039 --> 00:48:58.320
nobody's ever going to believe it. Okay, I believe strongly.

770
00:48:58.800 --> 00:49:03.679
It's a very spiritual, rual thing. Now. Chiep Ernest told me,

771
00:49:04.440 --> 00:49:07.480
and this is a little bothersome that they have always

772
00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:10.800
known me. They have always been around me. And I

773
00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:13.320
assure you when I think pat back in my past

774
00:49:13.599 --> 00:49:17.719
in a childhood. Yeah, even though I was unaware, I

775
00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:21.360
am aware of a lot of things today. And they

776
00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:26.960
said they have always protected me from what. That's what

777
00:49:27.039 --> 00:49:32.280
I want to know. Yeah, from what? Yeah, there can

778
00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:36.519
only be one thing I could guess exactly. Yep.

779
00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:45.960
So wow, Yeah, that's that's incredible. It's just it is

780
00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:49.480
really interesting because I've done this show for more than

781
00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:53.440
a few years and I have noticed a there's a

782
00:49:53.480 --> 00:49:58.039
big trend in the last especially half a year, where

783
00:49:58.440 --> 00:50:01.559
the people I've been talking to, almost all of them,

784
00:50:01.719 --> 00:50:06.199
have brought up some form of there was a communication

785
00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:12.920
started communicating to me. I started to get some form

786
00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:15.440
of mind speaking, and it's like these these people I

787
00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:18.920
talked to are from all different sorts of life parts

788
00:50:18.920 --> 00:50:22.480
of the US, and it's just it's a very very interesting,

789
00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:25.800
uh commonality that's starting to come out through all the

790
00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:29.119
different people that I talked to. So I'm not sure

791
00:50:29.159 --> 00:50:30.239
what's we make of it.

792
00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:33.039
Well, I can tell you there's a lot of things

793
00:50:33.039 --> 00:50:35.599
that go on. And I don't want to say community

794
00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:38.320
or anything like that. You know, we don't want to

795
00:50:38.320 --> 00:50:40.719
put things in people's heads. But I've been pushing this

796
00:50:41.079 --> 00:50:46.159
very strongly, very strongly for four years now, and people

797
00:50:46.199 --> 00:50:49.480
are becoming more aware of a simple hand guster like

798
00:50:50.840 --> 00:50:54.360
crossing the road, maybe drop your end and put your

799
00:50:54.440 --> 00:50:58.960
put your palm towards the car. It's done that. So

800
00:50:59.079 --> 00:51:03.119
now people are actually thinking back on their encounters, you

801
00:51:03.159 --> 00:51:06.119
know before they weren't four years ago. We go back

802
00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:09.239
in our archives, we find people saying they're ten they're

803
00:51:09.400 --> 00:51:12.800
twelve feet tall, or fifteen feet tall, or even twenty

804
00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:16.440
five feet tall. Right, you know, what did you measure

805
00:51:16.519 --> 00:51:19.960
them on? You know? That was my main concern is

806
00:51:20.000 --> 00:51:22.360
I needed to take in as much information as I

807
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:27.119
possibly could. Now you're actually hearing people saying they're seven

808
00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:31.400
and a half feet tall. Well, okay, okay, but I'm

809
00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:36.320
sure you probably have heard my story. Okay, some of

810
00:51:36.360 --> 00:51:40.400
these people, and how did you measure that? What did

811
00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:42.599
you measure it on? And how did you measure that

812
00:51:42.679 --> 00:51:48.639
item in itself? Sabyla Irwin is the one who who

813
00:51:49.360 --> 00:51:52.320
I did a show with and she did all she

814
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:55.920
did all the artwork in that show. It's called Sasquatching's

815
00:51:55.920 --> 00:51:59.760
the sign language, and it was beautifully done. It took

816
00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:03.079
her months and months, two to three times a week

817
00:52:03.119 --> 00:52:06.320
of her and I speaking back and forth, and she

818
00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:08.760
was just flown away by the blue eyes because how

819
00:52:08.800 --> 00:52:11.000
do you describe that? But now today I can describe that.

820
00:52:11.079 --> 00:52:15.079
I can tell you look at a husky, the husky blue,

821
00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:20.880
the husky blue, it's like unmistakable, you know. So anyways,

822
00:52:20.880 --> 00:52:22.800
you have these, you have all kinds of people who

823
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:27.599
pick up little things, and now they're becoming more aware

824
00:52:27.679 --> 00:52:30.519
of that. Of course, we do have the hoaxers out there,

825
00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:33.280
the fakers, the people who want to who want to

826
00:52:33.320 --> 00:52:37.880
be the probe in the local bike club. Okay, and

827
00:52:38.599 --> 00:52:40.920
they just want to because they don't never belong to

828
00:52:40.960 --> 00:52:43.519
anything else. And that's okay, that's fine. You know, to

829
00:52:43.599 --> 00:52:45.559
go out there and camp and to give you a

830
00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:50.000
huge idea of what it is out there with the

831
00:52:50.039 --> 00:52:54.800
groups and everything that they all walked around in the woods,

832
00:52:55.519 --> 00:52:57.719
but not a single one of them that I know of,

833
00:52:57.840 --> 00:53:02.159
actually carries a survival bed, a go bag, a knapsack,

834
00:53:03.280 --> 00:53:04.800
not on one of them. And I just seen a

835
00:53:04.880 --> 00:53:08.239
guy fall down a hill fifty feet and tumble down.

836
00:53:08.280 --> 00:53:10.679
He had his he had his cam quarter thing on

837
00:53:10.760 --> 00:53:14.840
his head and everything. And I won't say where he's

838
00:53:14.880 --> 00:53:17.880
located or anything like that, but I felt bad because

839
00:53:17.920 --> 00:53:19.639
he made a joke out of it, and they posted

840
00:53:19.679 --> 00:53:23.159
it on one of the forums. And it's like, buddy,

841
00:53:23.320 --> 00:53:25.880
you know you're supposed to you want, you want people

842
00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:28.400
to be following you around or whatever, but man, if

843
00:53:28.440 --> 00:53:31.840
you had broken your spine or your arm or your leg,

844
00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:35.320
you're dead man, because you have no way to take

845
00:53:35.360 --> 00:53:38.239
care of yourself out there in the woods. And these

846
00:53:38.280 --> 00:53:40.480
are essential things that if you're going to go out

847
00:53:40.480 --> 00:53:45.559
there and you're gonna prompt prance around the woods, know

848
00:53:45.679 --> 00:53:48.480
what you're doing. For God's sake, know what you're doing,

849
00:53:48.800 --> 00:53:54.039
and keep in mind these things are just as intelligent

850
00:53:54.159 --> 00:54:00.159
as I'm implying, plus more. And do you really think

851
00:54:00.719 --> 00:54:07.119
that they really want to be having you as their buddy?

852
00:54:08.199 --> 00:54:13.280
You're you're not trustworthy. But to go back on the

853
00:54:13.360 --> 00:54:17.719
Native American prophecy, yeah, Chief Earnest told me that, and

854
00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:20.760
that blew my mind. So I really got really heavy

855
00:54:21.480 --> 00:54:29.239
into prophecies also, you know, and that one there was.

856
00:54:31.840 --> 00:54:38.119
So what what what tribe is Chief Earness from? Specifically me,

857
00:54:38.719 --> 00:54:45.199
I'm Iroquois. Oh gotcha? Okay, got it? Yeah, okay, your

858
00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:50.440
Chief Earnest? No, no, okay, well what about sorry?

859
00:54:50.840 --> 00:54:55.159
Oh oh, Chief Earnest is the great great great grandson.

860
00:54:55.199 --> 00:55:01.400
He's still living, I believe, I want to say, sitting ball. Okay, wow, yes, sir,

861
00:55:01.840 --> 00:55:05.559
he's the tribal leader for I think three or four

862
00:55:05.639 --> 00:55:11.119
nations right now. Oh wow. And when I met him, yeah, yeah,

863
00:55:11.159 --> 00:55:14.000
when I met him, he was ashal I want to say,

864
00:55:14.079 --> 00:55:18.320
he was late seventies. So it was a privilege to

865
00:55:18.320 --> 00:55:20.559
meet him. And then him and I we got to

866
00:55:20.679 --> 00:55:23.679
dance around the sacred fire because it was right before

867
00:55:23.719 --> 00:55:27.440
the ceremonies with the combat veterans and everything. So we

868
00:55:27.480 --> 00:55:29.199
went out there and I got to dance around the

869
00:55:29.239 --> 00:55:36.599
sacred fire with Chief Earnest. You know, he knew about him.

870
00:55:36.760 --> 00:55:41.280
My ancestors definitely knew about him. You know, when I

871
00:55:41.360 --> 00:55:44.320
go back in my history and I think about areas

872
00:55:44.320 --> 00:55:46.599
that we hunted and things that I was told by

873
00:55:47.280 --> 00:55:52.239
our hunting party that they knew, but they didn't want

874
00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:54.679
to tell us about it. And I think it was

875
00:55:54.719 --> 00:55:57.920
probably all a matter of trust, you know, they had

876
00:55:57.960 --> 00:56:01.679
an agreement, because I do remember a situation where we

877
00:56:01.679 --> 00:56:04.880
were My great uncle came back with my father and

878
00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:07.400
said we were asked to leave, you know, and I

879
00:56:07.559 --> 00:56:10.199
was like, geez, you know, and it's because we had

880
00:56:10.199 --> 00:56:13.320
found these Derek Wood tracks and everything. But I was

881
00:56:13.360 --> 00:56:15.199
a young guy. I was young, I should say a

882
00:56:15.239 --> 00:56:20.239
young boy I was. I think I was maybe nine

883
00:56:20.320 --> 00:56:22.679
years old and I was prancing around the woods for

884
00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:27.159
a twelve gage going deer hunting with everybody. So it's

885
00:56:27.159 --> 00:56:30.920
something you learned early on on how to track and everything.

886
00:56:31.719 --> 00:56:38.480
But indeed they are definitely that that intelligent plus more.

887
00:56:39.360 --> 00:56:42.880
You know. Morgan Freeman. There's a movie that Morgan Freeman

888
00:56:42.920 --> 00:56:48.679
did and it deals in I think the awareness a

889
00:56:48.760 --> 00:56:52.280
lady gets injected with a drug. I don't know if

890
00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:54.840
you're familiar with it, and it has to do with

891
00:56:55.000 --> 00:56:57.400
the levels of awareness and like a dog is like

892
00:56:57.440 --> 00:57:02.639
a four an adult, like okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

893
00:57:02.639 --> 00:57:08.119
and a human is like what an eleven or a nine,

894
00:57:08.519 --> 00:57:11.400
and a dolphin is above us. And there's something that

895
00:57:11.519 --> 00:57:17.119
very something, very special that happens after like level twenty. Okay,

896
00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:19.360
if you've seen the movies, then you know what I'm

897
00:57:19.400 --> 00:57:22.719
alluding to here. And you got to take a look

898
00:57:22.760 --> 00:57:26.000
at it and say, well, what if? I mean? It's

899
00:57:26.039 --> 00:57:28.679
either that or when people say their house is haunted

900
00:57:28.679 --> 00:57:31.159
and you got orbs in your house, and why couldn't

901
00:57:31.199 --> 00:57:34.360
you have orbs in the woods from all the Native

902
00:57:34.360 --> 00:57:37.880
Americans and colonists and everybody else was passed away in

903
00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:44.599
the woods or even the forest people. What if? You know?

904
00:57:44.880 --> 00:57:48.599
But then again, back when I started this four four

905
00:57:48.599 --> 00:57:53.239
plus years ago, four plus short years ago, everybody believed

906
00:57:53.400 --> 00:57:57.159
strongly they did not eat meat. They believed strongly they

907
00:57:57.159 --> 00:58:01.519
did not get in trees. Okay, I assure you that

908
00:58:01.599 --> 00:58:05.599
they do. And if they didn't, if they didn't eat meat,

909
00:58:05.920 --> 00:58:09.000
and they could poof themselves in and out of a portal,

910
00:58:10.239 --> 00:58:13.719
then it had no need to run away from me

911
00:58:14.159 --> 00:58:17.159
or move away from me, or you know, it could

912
00:58:17.159 --> 00:58:19.760
have taken it. It could it could just take a

913
00:58:19.840 --> 00:58:24.119
dear through a portal or whatever. And ghosts don't need

914
00:58:24.159 --> 00:58:24.960
to eat meat.

915
00:58:27.119 --> 00:58:29.880
True, Yeah, you know, no, that's true. Yeah, you're not

916
00:58:29.880 --> 00:58:31.800
gonna have You're not going to eat meat if your

917
00:58:31.880 --> 00:58:37.840
ghosts usually Uh, it's man, I just have this over

918
00:58:37.840 --> 00:58:38.719
the last few months.

919
00:58:38.800 --> 00:58:39.320
I just have.

920
00:58:39.360 --> 00:58:44.480
This this theory thought that I can't shake. It's just weird.

921
00:58:44.599 --> 00:58:50.760
It's like, what if being around or in close proximity

922
00:58:51.000 --> 00:58:58.920
to whatever these individuals are, what if it affects us

923
00:58:59.000 --> 00:59:04.000
as a human and unlock something, even something that's old

924
00:59:04.239 --> 00:59:07.159
or innate and allows us to be able to And

925
00:59:07.519 --> 00:59:10.000
I sound I'm going to say, I sound crazy for

926
00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:13.679
saying this, but its just it feels like I'm thinking

927
00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:16.320
of all the things I've talked to people about, all

928
00:59:16.320 --> 00:59:19.400
the different encounters. There seems to be different commonalities that

929
00:59:19.440 --> 00:59:22.639
come out. It's almost like people are able to do

930
00:59:22.760 --> 00:59:27.880
things or hear things or interpret things after they have

931
00:59:28.000 --> 00:59:30.119
like those interactions. It is weird stuff.

932
00:59:30.159 --> 00:59:30.880
Man.

933
00:59:31.159 --> 00:59:33.920
I don't know if I if I said it was true,

934
00:59:33.920 --> 00:59:39.000
would you think I was crazy? I don't know, not anymore,

935
00:59:40.239 --> 00:59:42.800
you think and Ron Morhana doesn't want to say it either,

936
00:59:42.840 --> 00:59:43.960
nor did anybody else.

937
00:59:45.199 --> 00:59:50.280
I can, I can. I can tell you that yes,

938
00:59:51.400 --> 00:59:54.360
and we don't. Some people don't want to talk about it,

939
00:59:54.440 --> 00:59:57.719
particularly close up when it was that close, you know,

940
00:59:57.920 --> 01:00:03.880
because you can imagine I could have got a drink

941
01:00:03.880 --> 01:00:05.440
off or just spot in it, and they had to

942
01:00:05.440 --> 01:00:08.440
do all those other things. Can you imagine if I

943
01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:16.360
continue on with the story. Yeah right, it's way beyond that.

944
01:00:16.679 --> 01:00:18.480
So now who's going to listen to me? Tell them

945
01:00:18.480 --> 01:00:21.440
that your next step should be communication. People are going

946
01:00:21.519 --> 01:00:24.360
to go, no, this ain't just this just cannot be

947
01:00:24.880 --> 01:00:28.360
if your mind can't wrap on it. Yep, mm hmm.

948
01:00:28.519 --> 01:00:30.760
There's something that they have, there's something they can do.

949
01:00:31.199 --> 01:00:36.159
It's long forgotten. There's something on a spiritual level, highly spiritual,

950
01:00:36.719 --> 01:00:38.159
and it's a gift.

951
01:00:38.360 --> 01:00:41.800
And yes, yeah, no, it's it's it's something I'm working

952
01:00:41.800 --> 01:00:45.880
through and it's I don't know, I I think, I

953
01:00:45.880 --> 01:00:48.880
think you're I think it's that there's other people that

954
01:00:49.280 --> 01:00:53.960
have definitely uncovered that before, and definitely Ron Moorehead is

955
01:00:54.079 --> 01:00:55.920
one of them, and I need to dig more into

956
01:00:55.960 --> 01:00:56.519
his stuff.

957
01:00:57.840 --> 01:01:00.440
Yep. But God knows, I've got cart under.

958
01:01:00.960 --> 01:01:02.760
Oh yeah, true, yep, yep.

959
01:01:02.800 --> 01:01:05.920
And and there's a funny thing about that too, because

960
01:01:05.960 --> 01:01:09.639
he was on the same path as me. And one

961
01:01:09.679 --> 01:01:12.679
thing that I did notice that a lot of people

962
01:01:12.719 --> 01:01:18.000
don't know that the Cherokee language has a lot of

963
01:01:18.079 --> 01:01:21.039
letters from the Hebrew alphabet in it. It has a

964
01:01:21.119 --> 01:01:25.400
lot of words from the Hebrew language. It also contains

965
01:01:25.440 --> 01:01:29.000
some Japanese words. And that's what I picked up on

966
01:01:29.079 --> 01:01:31.920
when I very first heard the seeer sounds. Not every word,

967
01:01:32.719 --> 01:01:34.320
when I heard this out in the out in the

968
01:01:34.320 --> 01:01:38.440
woods that that morning, that's what I was hearing. It

969
01:01:38.480 --> 01:01:41.920
was just uncanny. It was just this chatter that you know,

970
01:01:42.320 --> 01:01:46.840
is just weird. But being in the area that I

971
01:01:46.880 --> 01:01:51.920
am in now, Ohio, the Ohio Valley, Yeah, the great,

972
01:01:52.320 --> 01:01:56.480
the Great Inland Sea, where the three Sons of Ham came.

973
01:01:58.199 --> 01:02:01.000
I've done a lot of reading and I try to

974
01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:04.840
tell you right now that this is in a way,

975
01:02:04.840 --> 01:02:09.000
it's kind of biblical, you know, in a way. And

976
01:02:09.079 --> 01:02:11.320
what if, what if? What if what we're fighting is

977
01:02:11.320 --> 01:02:14.480
a I'm just prolling out there for you, Jeremiah. What

978
01:02:14.519 --> 01:02:16.239
if what we're going to be fighting, or what we're

979
01:02:16.239 --> 01:02:19.480
fighting right now is a spiritual war, and these things

980
01:02:20.039 --> 01:02:25.519
beings spiritual as they are, maybe that's what they are

981
01:02:25.599 --> 01:02:26.320
alluding to.

982
01:02:27.480 --> 01:02:32.719
A spiritual battle every day exactly. Yeah, there's no question

983
01:02:32.719 --> 01:02:33.519
about that, dude.

984
01:02:34.679 --> 01:02:38.960
So on. On your level and other people's levels. I'm

985
01:02:39.000 --> 01:02:42.239
just saying for them, because the spiritual aspect of this

986
01:02:42.440 --> 01:02:47.840
rate here is the man that's doing the research in

987
01:02:47.880 --> 01:02:50.559
the area where I had my encounter is he broke

988
01:02:50.639 --> 01:02:52.800
off with three of the other guys that he was with,

989
01:02:53.000 --> 01:02:56.000
you know, sent them packing, and that was like two

990
01:02:56.079 --> 01:03:02.119
years ago or whatever, and he started doing it in

991
01:03:02.159 --> 01:03:10.800
a different way. Okay, they communicate with you, and they

992
01:03:10.840 --> 01:03:14.880
can communicate with you in several ways, but they are

993
01:03:14.920 --> 01:03:19.039
just super spiritual and I think they have something for

994
01:03:19.159 --> 01:03:22.960
us that they would like us to learn, you know,

995
01:03:23.920 --> 01:03:28.960
it would like us to learn. Hmm. Maybe beneficial to us.

996
01:03:29.039 --> 01:03:31.440
That's for another discussion.

997
01:03:31.639 --> 01:03:34.840
But I think I might know that. I think I

998
01:03:34.920 --> 01:03:38.639
might have in mind the individual you're talking about. We'll

999
01:03:38.679 --> 01:03:45.239
talk about it afterwards. You mentioned off off air, and

1000
01:03:45.559 --> 01:03:46.880
I don't know if you want to get into this,

1001
01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:51.119
but you mentioned you were also able to interview multiple

1002
01:03:51.199 --> 01:03:53.760
other people that have had encounters in the same area

1003
01:03:54.039 --> 01:03:58.719
as DN you had, where their encounters similar to yours.

1004
01:03:58.840 --> 01:04:03.400
Or there's one man that I cannot find this guy,

1005
01:04:03.519 --> 01:04:08.760
but I know I know the story, uh uh. I

1006
01:04:08.800 --> 01:04:14.280
know that it's true. It was probably within i'd say

1007
01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:19.000
a quarter a mile from where I was, under the

1008
01:04:19.039 --> 01:04:24.320
identical circumstances that he swore. I don't know if he's

1009
01:04:24.320 --> 01:04:26.800
still living or not, that he swore up and down

1010
01:04:27.360 --> 01:04:30.519
that what he's seen try to use sign language while

1011
01:04:30.519 --> 01:04:34.920
he was Boham and it took a deer great in

1012
01:04:35.039 --> 01:04:39.960
that same area. Yep, yeah, and then yep. And then

1013
01:04:40.079 --> 01:04:43.920
the father of the people of the woman I spoke

1014
01:04:43.960 --> 01:04:47.440
with his daughter on that apple orchard. He used to

1015
01:04:47.480 --> 01:04:50.039
travel from his house the back roads all the way

1016
01:04:50.119 --> 01:04:55.119
up to Bradley International Airport, and he got right at

1017
01:04:55.159 --> 01:04:57.519
the base of the mountain right there between Coble Mountain

1018
01:04:57.519 --> 01:05:02.559
and Granville or Coble Mountain in the Granville Reservoir. And

1019
01:05:04.000 --> 01:05:06.679
he's seen it come down the side of that mountain

1020
01:05:06.719 --> 01:05:09.519
across the road, right directly in front of him, you know.

1021
01:05:09.639 --> 01:05:12.079
And in his description given it, even though it was

1022
01:05:12.079 --> 01:05:17.719
second handing him to his daughter, was the same description. Wow,

1023
01:05:18.400 --> 01:05:21.519
pretty much the same description. And then I've got several

1024
01:05:21.920 --> 01:05:25.119
that are pretty much the same. I've got one that

1025
01:05:25.280 --> 01:05:31.039
there was I think three or four. They are grown

1026
01:05:31.119 --> 01:05:35.280
up adults now kids on the opposite side of that

1027
01:05:35.320 --> 01:05:39.719
mountain that's seen the group of them several times on

1028
01:05:39.760 --> 01:05:44.239
the opposite side of that mountain. And then there's another

1029
01:05:44.320 --> 01:05:46.719
one that I know that he was a hunting partner

1030
01:05:46.719 --> 01:05:51.679
with my brother Bryan, and he he told me the

1031
01:05:51.719 --> 01:05:55.239
story of him seeing I believe it was four of them,

1032
01:05:55.800 --> 01:05:59.559
a male appeared to be a male, a female, and

1033
01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:05.360
two siblings or two adolescents behind them walking the fence

1034
01:06:05.440 --> 01:06:11.280
line an old uh called bar wire bench bench line

1035
01:06:12.000 --> 01:06:13.960
pretty much in pretty much in the same area. I'd

1036
01:06:14.000 --> 01:06:19.360
say that was probably half a mile from where I was.

1037
01:06:20.599 --> 01:06:22.039
And then there's a bunch of other things that have

1038
01:06:22.119 --> 01:06:28.079
happened there. But you know absolutely you know? And does

1039
01:06:28.119 --> 01:06:34.239
the does the government know about them? Yeah, they sure do. Yeah, absolutely,

1040
01:06:34.599 --> 01:06:39.280
I know for a fact. You know, And I'll tell you, okay,

1041
01:06:39.360 --> 01:06:43.880
because you can't just say things like that the people. Yeah,

1042
01:06:44.320 --> 01:06:48.480
a coble reservoir. They blocked the whole thing off. And

1043
01:06:48.559 --> 01:06:50.119
you're not supposed to be in there. You're never you're

1044
01:06:50.119 --> 01:06:52.719
never were supposed to be in there fishing. There's two

1045
01:06:52.760 --> 01:06:55.280
cemeteries in there. One day when they leave on the map,

1046
01:06:55.760 --> 01:06:57.440
one you might still be able to find, but one

1047
01:06:57.480 --> 01:06:59.639
they took up the map for obvious reasons. When I

1048
01:06:59.639 --> 01:07:03.039
tell you what it was. It was called I believe

1049
01:07:03.039 --> 01:07:07.960
it was Warfield Cemetery, and it was a black community

1050
01:07:08.840 --> 01:07:12.639
during the underground railroad that that made a little kind

1051
01:07:12.639 --> 01:07:15.639
of little town in there, Okay, So they tried to

1052
01:07:15.719 --> 01:07:17.559
hide it so they can still get money off the

1053
01:07:17.599 --> 01:07:22.239
federal government by making another uh cemetery, because they swore

1054
01:07:22.280 --> 01:07:25.360
that they would never uh tear that down. But you

1055
01:07:25.400 --> 01:07:27.480
were not allowed in there in that area of fishing

1056
01:07:27.559 --> 01:07:30.760
or anything. And when I had my store, I knew

1057
01:07:30.840 --> 01:07:33.920
of a couple of friends that I had that went

1058
01:07:33.960 --> 01:07:38.039
in there fishing, and actually, uh a helicopter came down

1059
01:07:38.039 --> 01:07:40.440
and got them guys out of there, took them out

1060
01:07:40.480 --> 01:07:42.480
of there, you know, right off the ice their ice

1061
01:07:42.519 --> 01:07:45.639
fishing or along the shore line, you know, got them

1062
01:07:45.639 --> 01:07:49.199
on there. But me thinking I'm you know, okay, I'm

1063
01:07:49.239 --> 01:07:51.440
ex military. You're not. You're gonna have a You're gonna

1064
01:07:51.440 --> 01:07:53.920
have a tough time finding me in here, you know,

1065
01:07:54.480 --> 01:07:58.199
little that I realized that what was about to happen.

1066
01:07:58.239 --> 01:08:00.920
When I went fishing in there with my my that

1067
01:08:00.960 --> 01:08:04.039
I grew up with. As we got in there, we

1068
01:08:04.079 --> 01:08:05.679
had all set we had set up that I made

1069
01:08:05.679 --> 01:08:07.800
a little lean to on the side of this ridge line,

1070
01:08:08.280 --> 01:08:10.440
and we had just pulled back almost the lean to

1071
01:08:10.480 --> 01:08:13.000
and I heard a helicopter coming, so we got way

1072
01:08:13.039 --> 01:08:16.359
back inside it lean to. It was really dark in

1073
01:08:16.399 --> 01:08:18.479
there because I was underneath a bunch of pines and everything.

1074
01:08:19.479 --> 01:08:22.159
The helicopter came right down pretty much rate in from

1075
01:08:22.199 --> 01:08:24.319
of this new rate where we were. There's only one

1076
01:08:24.319 --> 01:08:27.399
way they could have known that there's ground sensors and

1077
01:08:27.439 --> 01:08:29.359
these things were spotted in here. I also have I

1078
01:08:29.399 --> 01:08:32.560
Winness Accouncil then being spotted in there, which is really

1079
01:08:32.600 --> 01:08:34.319
not far half a mile from where I had my

1080
01:08:34.439 --> 01:08:37.279
encounter or so, so if they knew I was in

1081
01:08:37.279 --> 01:08:39.960
there with the ground sensors, then you knew anything was

1082
01:08:39.960 --> 01:08:41.680
in here. You would have known if it was a deer,

1083
01:08:41.880 --> 01:08:44.840
if it was a bear or a moose or whatever.

1084
01:08:45.319 --> 01:08:49.159
You knew where we were, so therefore you know those

1085
01:08:49.199 --> 01:08:51.439
things are there most definitely.

1086
01:08:51.720 --> 01:08:56.680
Wow, that's extremely interesting. This is a part of Massachusetts

1087
01:08:56.680 --> 01:08:59.600
that I didn't really have my eyes on. Like I've

1088
01:08:59.600 --> 01:09:03.279
talked of people from October Mountain and Bear Mountain up

1089
01:09:03.319 --> 01:09:06.319
by Great Barrington, like that area is pretty wild, but

1090
01:09:06.439 --> 01:09:09.279
like I never would have thought this area over by.

1091
01:09:10.079 --> 01:09:13.479
I mean it's not really close, but like you know, Westfield, Springfield,

1092
01:09:13.560 --> 01:09:17.319
but it's so so interesting.

1093
01:09:18.359 --> 01:09:21.520
It's really hard some of the terrain in there. You know,

1094
01:09:21.560 --> 01:09:24.039
people say, well, why don't we why can't we find

1095
01:09:24.039 --> 01:09:26.199
a Sasquatch body? Well, you know what, you ain't going

1096
01:09:26.239 --> 01:09:29.840
to find out where they bury cheap shikura either up

1097
01:09:29.840 --> 01:09:33.520
in New Hampshire. Okay. And when you look at it

1098
01:09:33.600 --> 01:09:35.560
like that is why can't you find these? Well, I

1099
01:09:35.560 --> 01:09:37.960
can give you two examples. One one would be like

1100
01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:41.000
an analogy that they go where you don't want. You

1101
01:09:41.039 --> 01:09:43.560
can't go, you don't want to go, you're afraid to go.

1102
01:09:44.039 --> 01:09:47.279
You're not built to go into those areas. That's where

1103
01:09:47.319 --> 01:09:51.079
they go, and they stay and they'll venture out from there. Now,

1104
01:09:51.119 --> 01:09:56.600
there's a gentleman from Mississippi. I believe it might be Arkansas,

1105
01:09:56.840 --> 01:10:03.359
but anyways, his name's Earl and his grandfather he had

1106
01:10:03.399 --> 01:10:07.119
his first encounter. Earl did on the farm and his

1107
01:10:07.199 --> 01:10:09.960
grandfather used to feed them watermelons and stuff. You know,

1108
01:10:09.960 --> 01:10:12.960
it's kind of like a Mary Green type thing. And

1109
01:10:13.680 --> 01:10:17.279
long story short, you know, I know his encounter quite well,

1110
01:10:17.319 --> 01:10:20.520
and he's got on a show to give it before.

1111
01:10:20.600 --> 01:10:25.399
But what had happened was his grandfather had passed away,

1112
01:10:26.439 --> 01:10:28.600
and this was just a few years back. So Earl

1113
01:10:28.680 --> 01:10:30.800
decided he's going to go to the farm, you know,

1114
01:10:32.039 --> 01:10:34.720
and stay at the farm you know, and you know,

1115
01:10:34.760 --> 01:10:37.600
see it one last time and maybe sell the property. Whatever.

1116
01:10:38.600 --> 01:10:40.239
So he gets up in the morning and this is

1117
01:10:40.279 --> 01:10:42.359
going to be in relation to the why you can't

1118
01:10:42.359 --> 01:10:45.319
find the body. And he gets up in the morning

1119
01:10:45.319 --> 01:10:47.680
and he goes out on the back porch and there's

1120
01:10:47.720 --> 01:10:52.880
two watermelons out there on the back porch. So Earl

1121
01:10:53.279 --> 01:10:55.159
was like a little bit freaked about it. He said,

1122
01:10:55.159 --> 01:10:58.800
I got to go to my my grandfather's grave. So

1123
01:10:58.840 --> 01:11:02.560
he goes to his grandfather his grave, okay, with tombstone,

1124
01:11:03.319 --> 01:11:05.520
and what do you think he finds around the tombstone.

1125
01:11:05.560 --> 01:11:09.439
He finds these briers that are like braided okay, like

1126
01:11:09.479 --> 01:11:14.720
a tumbleweed around around the tombstone. And inside the ring

1127
01:11:15.640 --> 01:11:21.000
he finds some apples and pears in a piece of watermelon. WHOA,

1128
01:11:21.359 --> 01:11:25.119
they're not they're they're gonna put their their their their

1129
01:11:25.600 --> 01:11:28.399
relatives where You ain't gonna find it. You ain't gonna

1130
01:11:28.399 --> 01:11:30.920
want to find it. You even if you think you

1131
01:11:31.039 --> 01:11:32.720
found it, you ain't gonna want to dig it up

1132
01:11:32.760 --> 01:11:33.840
in a bunch of briers.

1133
01:11:35.359 --> 01:11:37.680
Oh man, that is wild.

1134
01:11:38.079 --> 01:11:42.640
Wow. Yep. So these are all things that there are

1135
01:11:42.680 --> 01:11:46.680
no coincidences. These are things that just present themselves ever

1136
01:11:46.720 --> 01:11:51.239
since I've had my encounter they I I can't get

1137
01:11:51.239 --> 01:11:54.239
into all the stamp, but that they have a way

1138
01:11:54.239 --> 01:11:57.640
of presenting themselves and I know them to be true.

1139
01:11:59.520 --> 01:12:00.159
Absolutely.

1140
01:12:00.239 --> 01:12:00.680
Oh man.

1141
01:12:00.760 --> 01:12:07.520
This has been a really extremely interesting conversation Ernie, and

1142
01:12:08.239 --> 01:12:11.039
I'm just I'm thankful that you came in. I think

1143
01:12:11.079 --> 01:12:18.199
we had a really really eye opening conversations, especially for listeners.

1144
01:12:19.119 --> 01:12:22.399
I do want to make sure that we share that

1145
01:12:22.880 --> 01:12:26.960
you have an interesting side project going on as well.

1146
01:12:27.039 --> 01:12:30.600
Right, yes, yes, I have one that that we I

1147
01:12:30.640 --> 01:12:32.560
felt that it was necessary to try to push to

1148
01:12:32.600 --> 01:12:39.640
people to take that next step on communication. And this

1149
01:12:39.720 --> 01:12:41.880
is on a site that's called It's all one word

1150
01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:47.079
New England encounters dot it'sy dot com and it's under

1151
01:12:47.119 --> 01:12:51.680
the heading of Sasquatch uses sign language and this is

1152
01:12:51.760 --> 01:12:56.199
pretty much most of the artwork is from the artwork

1153
01:12:56.199 --> 01:13:00.760
as Sibylla did on the sign language that this being

1154
01:13:00.960 --> 01:13:04.840
used with me, so you can see it firsthand and

1155
01:13:05.520 --> 01:13:14.119
perhaps even where it to communicate with the public. What

1156
01:13:14.199 --> 01:13:17.119
these things can actually do to take a stand with me,

1157
01:13:18.119 --> 01:13:22.680
and you can have any of those sign language things

1158
01:13:24.199 --> 01:13:26.920
put on anything you want. You just send us a message,

1159
01:13:26.960 --> 01:13:29.800
We'll put it on anything, because they don't carry a

1160
01:13:29.840 --> 01:13:33.079
whole lot, you know, and I don't really do the

1161
01:13:33.119 --> 01:13:36.279
AI thing or anything like that, but some of it

1162
01:13:36.399 --> 01:13:39.439
might be on there, but you'll know when you see it. Anyways.

1163
01:13:39.479 --> 01:13:42.800
But I just want to get maybe people educated on

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this end to make a bit of a stand with

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me and say our next Our next step is communication,

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and it's going to be with the use of sign

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01:13:54.239 --> 01:13:56.680
language because at fifty yards you're not going to yell

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01:13:56.720 --> 01:13:59.319
to them, but at fifty yards you can definitely tell

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it that you're its friend or whatever it all.

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But that's very cool, Yeah, and I'll have I have

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that link in the show notes or the description, so

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people can definitely go and check that out. But Ernie,

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thank you so much for coming on the show. Has

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been a real privilege to talk to you tonight.

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Saying here, absolutely, I really enjoyed speaking with you.

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Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity

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01:14:34.319 --> 01:14:37.520
around Oakridge, Oregon and you think to yourself, Man, I

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01:14:37.520 --> 01:14:40.399
would love to get out in those woods and experience

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01:14:40.439 --> 01:14:44.960
it for myself. Well, guess what this year you can

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If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's

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01:14:48.600 --> 01:14:53.560
pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July tenth

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through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's going to be

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01:14:57.319 --> 01:15:01.479
even better than the previous year's Number one. I'll be

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01:15:01.520 --> 01:15:04.640
one of the speakers. It's gonna be wild. I'll probably

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I'll say this. There may be stuff you haven't heard

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01:15:10.079 --> 01:15:16.119
anywhere else, because let's just say sometimes it's well, you

1187
01:15:16.239 --> 01:15:18.359
just got to be there. We'll leave it that more

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01:15:18.359 --> 01:15:21.079
about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now check

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01:15:21.119 --> 01:15:26.720
this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his documentary

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01:15:26.760 --> 01:15:31.079
series Searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year you can not

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01:15:31.279 --> 01:15:35.279
only go to the festival, but you can also sign

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01:15:35.399 --> 01:15:42.279
up for a track deep in the wild forest outside

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01:15:42.319 --> 01:15:47.000
of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot spots to

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01:15:47.119 --> 01:15:50.680
look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots to sign up

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01:15:50.720 --> 01:15:54.760
for this. And yes, this will also be filmed for

1196
01:15:54.960 --> 01:15:57.960
the next chapter in his documentary series, which is Searching

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01:15:58.000 --> 01:16:00.520
for Sasquatch. This is a once in life time deal.

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It's just trust it's going to be a wild Wild Experience.

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To get a ticket, head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest

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01:16:08.920 --> 01:16:13.520
dot com and listeners can use the code b SP

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01:16:14.840 --> 01:16:18.279
like Bigfoot Society Podcast in order to get a two

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01:16:18.399 --> 01:16:21.279
day pass for the price of a one day pass.

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So thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so

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that you guys can can get a little a little

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01:16:32.560 --> 01:16:35.880
help with the costs there. Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope

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01:16:35.920 --> 01:16:39.159
to see you at the booth in Oakridge this year.

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01:16:40.239 --> 01:16:42.520
We can talk about your encounter. Was able to talk

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01:16:42.560 --> 01:16:45.279
to so many people last year and the year before.

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It is an incredible time. You're not going to want

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01:16:49.039 --> 01:16:53.319
to miss it, and I'll see you there. Before we

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01:16:53.359 --> 01:16:55.840
wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to

1212
01:16:55.920 --> 01:16:59.279
a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military,

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01:16:59.680 --> 01:17:03.039
any ranch or forces, and if you've seen something that

1214
01:17:03.079 --> 01:17:05.920
no one can explain, or if you're a National park

1215
01:17:06.039 --> 01:17:09.239
ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet,

1216
01:17:09.960 --> 01:17:13.119
or if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down

1217
01:17:13.119 --> 01:17:15.720
on the ground, or if you're with the FBI a

1218
01:17:15.720 --> 01:17:19.640
federal agency, or working intelligence and you stumbled upon something

1219
01:17:19.720 --> 01:17:23.359
you're not allowed to talk about, and if you're a firefighter, paramedic,

1220
01:17:23.479 --> 01:17:26.720
or search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found

1221
01:17:26.800 --> 01:17:29.800
tracks that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging

1222
01:17:29.840 --> 01:17:33.640
industry on a remote oil field, or a trucker with

1223
01:17:33.760 --> 01:17:37.600
government contracts and you've had something happen that you've never

1224
01:17:37.680 --> 01:17:41.560
told a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist,

1225
01:17:41.720 --> 01:17:45.119
or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence

1226
01:17:45.239 --> 01:17:48.880
you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary,

1227
01:17:49.000 --> 01:17:52.159
or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw something

1228
01:17:52.239 --> 01:17:54.640
that shook your faith, or if you work in the

1229
01:17:54.680 --> 01:17:59.199
shadows CIA, NSA or anything with clearance and you've seen

1230
01:17:59.319 --> 01:18:02.760
what the public caps an then I want to talk

1231
01:18:02.800 --> 01:18:07.720
to you, even if it's anonymous. You can reach me

1232
01:18:08.279 --> 01:18:11.760
at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. The world needs

1233
01:18:11.800 --> 01:18:15.560
to hear what you've been forced to carry alone. And

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01:18:15.600 --> 01:18:20.479
you're not alone. You've got the story, We've got the mic.

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See you in the woods. Thank you for listening to

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01:18:24.359 --> 01:18:27.399
this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast. Every encounter we

1237
01:18:27.439 --> 01:18:30.079
share reminds us that the world is bigger and stranger

1238
01:18:30.079 --> 01:18:32.960
than we think, and that the truth is often hiding

1239
01:18:33.119 --> 01:18:36.000
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1255
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1256
01:19:26.439 --> 01:19:29.399
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01:19:29.520 --> 01:19:32.239
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