From Unexplained LBL Creatures to Virginia Dogman: Darrell Denton's Journey into the Unknown

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Big for Society we got the privilege
of socking and mister Darryl Denton tonight.

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He is, as he professes,
an old country boy from the state

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of Tennessee. So great to meet
you, Daryl. I've been waiting for

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a long time to chat with you, and I've heard so much many cool

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things about you. How are you
doing tonight, sir? Hey, I'm

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doing here and I certainly appreciate you
having me on. So we have a

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mutual friend mister Martin Groves, which
is just a great guy. One of

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my favorite episodes is when we talked
about his adventures in the LBL at his

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encounters, and he's got those great
books, and I know you're in one

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of the books as well, correct
the second one. He was kind enough

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to put me in there, and
the whole second chapter, the life stack

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of the book is about our encounter
at the LBL in October. Was actually

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the October the nineteenth of twenty two, and the reason we were there was

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due to the fact that was the
thirtieth year, the twenty ninth anniversary of

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his actual encounter at LBA. We
were there again a week about a week

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ago yesterday, the same spot,
and that was his actual thirtieth anniversary,

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and we were also there at night, and that was pretty intense. We've

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been there a couple of times,
but I've been really honored to be the

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only person that ever went there that
I'm aware of. Martin stays that he

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and I've been close friends and best
friends for forty two years. We go

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backer was did you have any interesting
things happened the last time you were there

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at the LBL. Just recently,
there was four of us there and all

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my close closest friends, which courses
Martin does and mister Ron moorehead his first

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time there with us, re hontor
to have him, and of course Martin

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and he's normally always anywhere Martin does
us three or together, and we didn't

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have anything happen at that particular spot
we were hoping to. We had some

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very strange things happen not very far
from there, but it was the cabin

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we stayed in that we haven't ever
stayed in before. It was actually in

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the back part of the campground,
and we had big Foot around us the

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whole every night we were there,
and just being mischievous doing crazy things,

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breaking sticks and making noises and clacking
rocks and just a lot of things that

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Bigfoot's known to do. Matter of
fact, Barton and I were out there

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two o'clock in the morning trying to
figure out where they were coming from the

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second night we were there, because
they were walking by our window in the

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cabin. You just see the big
shadow of them, and I believe Barton

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actually got a picture of two of
them. I did not get a picture

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of them, but we had a
lot of a lot of They were just

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being mischief. They weren't trying to
harm us, but they would definitely watch

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us. We had a campfire going
and about ten o'clock every night they'd start

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up. It go on to about
four in the morning. And of course

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we go out a lot at night
and research. We'll go out into the

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area I was mentioned in a minute
ago, and we'll do research there,

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then come back and usually we would
get a cabin because it's a whole lot

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easier than bringing tents and that type
of equipment. It's already set up.

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We'll go to our location and stay
how alone we want, sometimes half the

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night. Got a good place to
go back and sleep for a while,

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take a rest, but didn't have
any accent like we had in twenty twenty

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one. That was probably the no
by far, the strangest thing I've ever

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seen. It was so strange that
I don't think I'll ever quite figure out

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that. And of course Martin is
the same way. I was. Just

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he and I there that particular time, and we had pulled back in there.

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If I remember right, it was
twelve forty eight at night and we

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had pulled up and it's a dirt
road, dirt gravel road that goes back

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in there. And if you've never
been to the lb ale, and I

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know some people watching may not know
what the lbl E is. That stands

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for Land between the Lakes. It's
about one hundred and seventy thousand acres in

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Tennessee and Kentucky, and it's real. It's very remote. There's a north

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end in the south end. There's
roads back in there. When you go

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if you don't know where you're going
and know the location, you can easily

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get lost back in there. There's
roads to the left and right. They're

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just about as far as you can
drive back in there. When I say

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roads, there's a paved road leading
in there, but when you get back

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into that remote area, it's mainly
just dirt or gravel roads off in different

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locations. And it's a strange place
anyway. We've had a lot of stuff

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happened there over the years, some
of it strange, really strange, and

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had some real strange sightings there.
But last year October of twenty I'm sorry,

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October of twenty two was when we've
seen the strangest thing I've ever seen.

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And I've had a lot of encounters
in my life, but nothing like

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that it was. It looked like
a myth. It was off to the

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right. We were driving very slowly
on the start road, headed back to

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the area that Martin had actually had
his original encounter in nineteen ninety, and

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I looked over to the right.
I had no winded down, and he

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had his winning down, and you
can't We're maybe going three mile an hour,

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just barely moving, and you really
can't go very fast back on his

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roads, or you're end up off
off a hollow or in a ditch.

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So I looked to the right and
there was like a mist. And the

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closer I got, I looked down
and there was just a huge creature laying

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right on the side of the road, and a lot of brush and weeds

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on the edge of the road,
and it was laying down in like a

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ditch, which after we went back
it was actually a creek bed next to

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our They went under the road there, and it was looking right at me,

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like just fixed on me. And
I'm only probably six seven feet from

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this with my arm out the window. I just shot me when I looked

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and turned that way to look at
it. And when I looked at it,

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I thought, what in the world
is that and I looked. As

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soon as I looked over at Martin, I said, tell me you're seeing

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this and he goes, oh,
yeah, I see it. And I

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said, what in the world is
that? And it was so strange.

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It had a head about half the
size of our truck windshield, huge head.

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It had maine around its neck like
a lion. It had it looked

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like tiny flashlight for eyes. They
were real clear and real deep, and

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it was a blue silver color,
grayssh blue. And then it had the

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very TIMPs of the hair on it. You could the very TIMPs of all

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the hair on it had, like
the light on the edges of them.

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And the strange thing about it,
it was in a stance like a cat

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with pouts on something. And at
the same time, as strange as it

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sounds, it was it was transparent. You could see through it. It

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was like something out of a cartoon
or something. I've never seen anything like

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that. And I looked back at
Martin and I said, stop because I'm

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gon't to get out, and I
he said. He didn't say anything.

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He just kept going because frightened him
a little bit too, because this thing't

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like he was going to jump on
us. But I wanted to get out

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and see what it was. And
about that time it was I caught it.

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I don't think it's Infrasund. I
caught it zapped. I've been zapped

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a couple of times by the forest
people or big Foot, but the by

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dog man. And all of a
sudden, it filled the whole truck with

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this unbelievable smell. I can't smell
good. I lost my smelling senses when

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I got COVID back in twenty twenty. But Martin was so sick and my

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legs were a little teenly, my
arms, my upper chest felt pressure on

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it, and I had a massive
headache all of a sudden, and I

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looked over it at Martin and he
said, man, I can't breathe.

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And the fact it had on him, he said, my chimed in my

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throat and swell together. I can't
breathe. But I can't breathe, and

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I said, stop, pull over, let me drive. And about that

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time, this thing crosses behind us, and it didn't. Martin is looking

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in the mirror and I'm looking back
toward it, and it crosses behind us,

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behind the truck, and it just
like glides across behind us. Not

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like it ran went up this went
into this field, then it went up

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this heelside and you can hear it. You can hear this thing breaking branches

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and stuff as it was going up
the hillside. It sounded like it was

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real heady. And then we didn't
I don't know where it went after that,

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We kept going. I was more
worried about his health than anything.

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He was pretty much almost paralyzed.
He couldn't breathe, and I was thinking

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he was going to pass out.
And we're way back in in the middle

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of nowhere, and quite frankly,
I don't know the roads nowhere near he

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does. And I said, let
me drive, and he says, now,

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let me get us out of this
office road. And we drove on

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out, and he fortunately was casting
for air, and I was feeling sick

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myself. And we got on out
finally and turned to the left and drove

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the good ways and we finally hit
the main paved road that goes back in

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there and turned to the right and
finally to a rest spot back there that

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has street lights under it. And
I immediately went over to help him get

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out of the truck and he and
he said he could barely move at that

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time, and I said, are
you going to be able to breathe?

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And he was actually gasping for air. And we find he finally got a

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little better at least where he could
breathe, and we drove on to the

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main trace area and got in got
under a ranger chet station and got him

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out where he could move around a
little bit and walk a little bit,

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and but he wouldn't he was better, he could breathe. I believe he

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was sick about seven days after that. He didn't get over it like I

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did. It was the strangest thing
I've ever encountered. Just this sounds like

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something crazy. But if I hadn't
seen it myself, I we probably wouldn't

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believe it. But something like that
is doesn't seem to even be possible.

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But Martin seems to think it must
have come out of a portal or something.

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I don't know where it came from, but it was in the ditch,

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but it had a missed around it. At first, it was very

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strange. All I did to call
it was some kind of translational huge dog

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creature is what I would call it. But like I said, the strangest

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thing I've ever seen, and he
would tell you the same thing today if

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he's right here. And that account
is in his book, which is based

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between the Rivers, the second book. He has two of them. They're

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both fantastic. Looking back at the
creature when you saw it cross the road,

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how tall would you say that it
was when you were looking back at

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it. It's dark out there,
And when I say dark, you can't

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see your hand in front of your
face if you're you know, if you're

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out of the vehicle. By just
what I could see of it, I

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don't know the height of it,
but it was visible over the bit of

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the truck. I really, I've
never been asked that question. I've never

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thought about it. But it wasn't
any any crazy high like ken foot or

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anything. Probably six to eight foot
off the ground probably, but it was

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visible to see it. He could
see it better than I could. Number

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was gasping for air and let riding
in this rearview mirror, and I could

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hear it. It was the footsteps
that was making It went into a grass

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field of real high grass, and
then there's a bank that goes up real

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steep rut there, and it went
up that bank and that's when you could

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really hear it when it was breaking
limbs and sticks where it was going up

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to the side of that bank.
It sounded like something very heavy. It

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sounds like it sounds like it was
a long time to view it, but

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it really was a long time.
I don't know what the timeframe was of

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actually seeing it and everything. I'd
say maybe five to ten seconds at the

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most. I wouldn't think that long. It definitely seen me, and it

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looked at me in the most evil
way. It's just hard to explain,

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but I think the thing that I've
seen a dog man before, but it

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was nothing like that. The one
I've seen looked more flesh and blood.

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This thing was like something that was
it's almost like cartoonists. Like I said,

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it's so strange looking, so it's
very the description is very sci fi,

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very alien. It's very weird.
I've never seen anything close to that,

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and then neither has Martin. That
man. I've talked about it so

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many times, and like I said, as crazy as saying, we've been

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back there numerous times hoping to see
it again, and we've never seen it

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again or anything close to it.
A matter of fact, I've never seen

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any other creature there, But just
read your game dinner and other time.

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We'll be back with more Bigfoot Society
after these words from our sponsors. Besides

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that moment in October, I believe
it was October nineteen twenty two. Is

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already seen that. But there's so
many weird things that happen in the LBL.

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There's dog Man, there's Bigfoot,
there's whatever you guys just saw right

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there. Do you have any have
you ever thought why is it in this

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one place? There's so many weird
things happening. Martin and Lee, Martin

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and I, Joe and Jesse have
hel Ben Holler. They're good friends of

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mine and theirs two and they go
there and just the best boots on the

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ground team ever and just fearless.
They go out and just walk those hills

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in the middle of the night.
And we do that too, but not

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as far, not as much as
they do. And we've talked about that.

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But I think it goes back maybe
even before the that area was well

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known. I think I'm correcting the
late seventeen hundreds, early eighteen hundreds,

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the Indians, the American Indian in
that area. I had talked about a

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creature that was they called it a
dog type creature. The settlers there in

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that time had animals attacked and even
people attacked by some type of dog type

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creature. And I think it was
in the sixties when they formed the actual

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waters of the Cumberland River in Tennessee
that turns in Lake Barkley after you get

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past Cheatham Down and Barkley and the
Tennessee River make I think those are the

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two rivers that makes the they turns
into Kentucky Lakes what it turns into,

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and a large portion of it is
in Tennessee and Kentucky. But there's when

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they flooded that area. They were
homes people that refuse to leave that area.

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The TVA came in there and these
people had lived there for their families.

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They'd lived there for some of them
for hundreds of years, and a

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lot of those people refuse to leave
and they just flooded. There's so many

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graveyards in there, I think I'm
correct. There's over two hundred graveyards into

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they'll be Yale and we found stones
in the late seventeen hundreds. Some you

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can't tell what they ares, it's
a stone. And there's a lot of

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those grave yards that were covered by
water too, because this is a large

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light. It's just a massive body
of water. And I think there's just

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some type of phenomena that's always been
there. I don't know what makes it

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that type place, but when you
drive into, they'll be there. You

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get a strange feeling just driving in. So it's just an area that I

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can't explain. You here people that
go up there and spend a weekend and

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never having occurrence, or stay in
the camping area and they fish and camp

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with their family, and then hear
other people that go up there and leave

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and whenever come back they see something
or they're getting scared off by something.

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And we've been there so many times
and most of the time it's just me

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our team, Me and Barnley and
Martin Groves and Martin and I have been

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up there just us two plenty of
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And Ron came with us his time
and he had a good time.

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He wished he could have stayed longer, and we're going back again gonna He's

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already said he would love to go
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I wish he could have seen more
because our main goal was hopefully for him

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to see some type of creature because
he'd never seen a dog man and a

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lot of people haven't. We go
back thirty years ago roughly when Mark and

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I used to conversate about our experiences. Back in that day, I was

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I was a commissioner, an alderman, and then a mayor for quite a

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few years in the same area that
Martin that Martin Groves was a deputy sheriff,

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and he was a chief deputy.
He was up there next to the

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sheriff and well respected. And he
and I might experience my first one in

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ninety of a big foot that just
scared me to death. I didn't even

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know they existed if they did not
in Tennessee. And then he had his

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experience a year later. And you
couldn't tell anybody back in the nineties if

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you told people I've seen a big
foot or I've seen a dog name of

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course that I thought we'd lost our
mind. And now it's a lot easier

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to speak of it. And Martin
held that, and he held that,

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and I pretty much did too for
nearly twenty five years before I started speaking

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of it. I told members of
my family and very few people, but

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being elected official. You don't run
around the county in town telling people you've

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seen a big foot and it scares
you to death. And he was afraid

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he would have gotten fired. So
for telling me say it almost got killed

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or eaten by dog maw. Thank
goodness for podcasters like yourself who have good

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quality shows that you can talk about
this stop stuff. But that wasn't available

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when this happened to us, and
there weren't There weren't any Facebook groups,

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you know. I think Mike Patterson, Michael Patterson think he started the first

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group, and I believe it was
twenty fifteen, and I was helping him

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and with him for a long time
there. And that was Blue Rids,

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Blue Red Asquats and Crypto and Michael, not Mike Patterson, but Michael Patterson.

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He still has that group. He's
still a close friend of mine.

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I left that and started my own
in February, late February of two thousand

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and twenty two. But that was
there was maybe three groups on Facebook when

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we started that It's wild. There
wasn't any big foot of dog man groups.

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And I've cried, frankly ever even
heard of a dog man until Martin

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Graves tell me about one, and
then I didn't hear anything much about it

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until the last four or five years. You hear a lot about it.

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It seems to be added definitely the
last few years, a lot of people

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have gotten interested into that creature.
I would say, you take me back

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to the first time that you had
an encounter with a bigfoot. What that

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was, What that situation was like
for you. That was My grandfather had

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a large farm in Canon County,
Tennessee, Woodberry, Tennessee, and it

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was very remote out there. My
grandfather lived in that area all his life,

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and I pretty much grew up on
that farm. My grand I stayed

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with those grandparents quite often and did
everything kids do. My grandfather was a

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farmer, and he was pretty strict
on me being in the field helping him

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when I was Even when I was
five years old, we were either in

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a garden or a tobacco field,
or I was helping him with hay in

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the field. Because he had animals
and livestocks. I knew that area very

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well. I don't know how many
acres my grandfather had, but he had

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a pretty good sized farm and certain
areas were sensed off for the cows.

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He had, and I'd hunted there
for as long as I can remember,

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and captain the woods by myself when
I was eleven twelve years old, Me

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and my dog and we'd count the
woods and we'd hunt just regular game and

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wasn't scared of anything, and never
see anything that I didn't know what it

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was. And this was I believe
it was November the six of ninety two.

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Me and three of my friends,
Scott, Jason, and Cody go

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up to my grandfather's farm on the
opening day of black powder season, which

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is muzzle over that we call it
in Tennessee. It's a rifle that you

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can only power one shot. It's
like the old ramrod. You pack your

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bullet in it with a wide and
a firing cap. And opening season is

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before gun season and your chances for
a bigger deal A lot of times or

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that week. And we've been going
up there five or six years, me

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and those three guys, and I
had a big out of camper, a

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nice camper back then I pulled my
truck and I would pull the camper up,

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open the gate and pull it next
to my grandfather's barn and we would

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set the camper up there and they
followed me with a truck and a trailer,

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and we all had ATVs or four
eaters back then, all four of

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us, and we would go up
there and we would get there to a

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day or two before the season opened, and we had some stands built out

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in those woods, and then we
had also a cane stand which you carry

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on your back and put around a
tree, and climbing climbing stand. And

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we had got there that Sunday,
which would have I could be off a

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day or two on the date.
And I'm pretty sure it was November fifth

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of ninety two when we got there. And my granddad, of course,

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at that time, he was I
believe ninety years old. I'd have been

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ninety two, but he was in
tremendous shape. You would never think he

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was that old. He's still farmed
and did everything farmers do. He even

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had cows and milk every morning.
And he came out and greeted us,

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and we hung out with him a
little bit, and we set camp up,

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and I went in and talked to
him, and I was staying on

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his back porch. He had an
old wood farmhouse on a heel, and

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I said, grand Dad, I'm
going to this year, I'm going out

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after a trophy deer. I'm not
really looking for one for the meat,

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and I probably won't kill one unless
I see a trophy in I said,

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where do you think the best place
would go to get a trophy deer would

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be? And I was standing on
his back porch. He pointed out.

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He said, you see that third
hollow over there and the heel and I

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said yeah. He said, that's
probably where i'd go. And this was

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a good walt from his house.
You're looking over the heels and this place

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is heels and hollows, just one
after another. And it's pretty hard to

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even explain how much steep heels there
are there, some of the forty five

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degree angle, so it's a climb. He said, I would go over

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there. Of course I did.
I hit it off his back porch and

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I went back behind his porch and
I had my climbing stand on my back,

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went back to the camp to get
it, and I hited where he

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showed me to go, and I
went over that way. And you go

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through his yard, through it down
to a gate and you open the gate

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up. It's just a standard sized
gate and it goes into the field where

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is that was fenced where his cattle
were. And I went down there and

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went through that gate and crossed about
a two hundred It's probably two hundred yard

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wide. At that time of the
year, it was like a sage grass

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field. And I walked down through
that until I got to a fence line.

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It was a bob wire fence,
and I climbed that bob wir fence

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and got over and started climbing his
heel and it was, like I said,

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it was a steep hill. And
walked up to the top of that

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hill, went over another hill,
and by the time I got to the

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third heel, it was going down. It was real steep, and I

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came. He said, when you
get over there, you know you're in

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the right spot. There's an old
part of an old grist mill there to

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the left, and the old house
that I was born in is still there,

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but it's fallen in. You'll see
the remnants up tin roof and part

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of the chimney standing. And he
said, you've been there, but it

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had been years since I'd been there. We had went by road gravel roads

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back in there to get there.
But anyway, I got over there to

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that spot and had my stand on
my back, and I walked around the

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side of this bank to the side
of this hill, and I just said,

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it was real steep, like a
forty five degree angle. And I

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seen a tree that was straight up
all kind of overlooking the creek in front.

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And when you and I went and
put my stand around that tree and

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got it ready for the next day, climbed up in it and set back

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and cut a few limbs off of
a little fotoble soil I had, so

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I i'd been able to set my
stuff up in the morning. And then

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I come down and walked across that
creek and there was a large cane thicket

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to my left. Cane is like
it looks like caane. It is cane.

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It grows can or fifteen ft call
all down creek and river banks in

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Tennessee. And it went all the
way down the left side of that creek

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bank and crossed over walk down through
the creek. And this creek's only probably

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ten twelve foot wide right there,
but it's about two foot of water that

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runs all the year around, and
it gets a lot wider on down from

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there, some probably fifty or sixty
yards wide. And I went up.

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There was a little clearing there,
and I just was mainly looking for deer

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signs, and I found some a
scrape. That's what a butt deer does.

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The male deer with their antors,
they rub on trees and leave a

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mark when they're in the area.
Found a couple of those, and I

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could see the deer down. There's
a little game trail on top of that,

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right into the creek bank on both
sides, and we're deer and stuff

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travel on and I see a lot
of tracks. And I walked over a

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little bit to the right on the
edge of that bank, right into the

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game trail, and there was a
big tree lamp sticking out an oak tree,

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and there was a lamb up pretty
good and I'm six five, so

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I jumped up and grabbed the lamb
and i'd put it what's called a drag

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rag on your boot when you go
in, and this elastic thing that goes

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on your boot and you put scent
on it and covers the human sand as

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you go in and pull that off. I grabbed that branch and tied it

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around the end and let it go
and it was up off the ground probably

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about eight foot, and that kind
of lets the scent go down that hollow,

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and sometimes it'll bring deer in because
they're trying to it smells like a

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female deer an aestra so or that
time of year when they go into that

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which causes the bucks to chase them. And I'm hunting that tree. And

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let it go and come back across
the creek and went through a little ravine

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to my left and climbed those heels
again and came back and went down to

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the camper and hung out all my
friends that night, and we grilled out

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and had a good time. And
I went up and untild my granddad.

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I said, I when you get
up in the morning, when you came

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there and wake me up, we'll
be back with more big Foot Society after

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these words from our sponsors, and
because it's pretty good walk over there.

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I think it took me about forty
five minutes to an hour that day just

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to get there. And he said, sure, so I'll do that for

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you. My granddad never called me
by my name. He's called me boy

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all my life. And he said, I'll be down there, boy.

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He said, I get up about
four point thirty. I said, that's

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fine. We all went all got
in the camper that night and went to

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sleep, and about four thirty or
a quarter to five, he banged on

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the side of the camper and he
said, boy, time to get up.

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And I got up and went out
and spoke to him, and he

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was going to the bar and there
in front of just a milk a cow,

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and I hit it that way when
I went down on his house there,

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went through the gate and went through
that field and had a fla slot

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with me I had. I had
what it was called a fanny pack that

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I carried my extra powder load and
extra firing caps and a powder horn in

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it, and a few other things
I had with in and that also.

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And I went on down and I
got to the bob wire fence there after

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going about two hundred yards through that
field there, climbed over the fence and

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started climbing the heel and I got
just a little ways up on the hill.

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I don't remember. I don't think
I was halfway up, but I

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was a pretty good ways up,
and it's dark, and I didn't know

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that I knew I didn't know that
area that well because I didn't normally go

409
00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:52.799
into that area. But I got
about probably close to halfway up and I

410
00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:57.079
heard something walk into the left of
me, and I stopped, and I

411
00:31:57.119 --> 00:32:01.799
thought, that's strange. Somebody be
in here. I knew my three friends.

412
00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:06.000
I knew where they were hunting.
They were hunting in pretty close to

413
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:08.640
the same area that they hunt every
year, and they were good ways for

414
00:32:08.839 --> 00:32:14.480
me, way off in a different
direction and different hollows. They would hunt

415
00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:17.480
a different hollow, one would hunt
one and one would hunt another. And

416
00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:22.480
so I didn't I knew it wasn't
them, and I started shining the light

417
00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:25.680
and I didn't see anything, and
but I heard it walking. It sounded

418
00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:30.839
like a person walking. Startled me
a little bit. I thought, who,

419
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:35.319
somebody's in here hunting, and then
I started thinking, maybe it's a

420
00:32:35.359 --> 00:32:38.200
cow or a horse that's got in
here. So I just climbed over the

421
00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:44.079
hill. And when I got over
to the second heel, I was hurried

422
00:32:44.119 --> 00:32:49.759
because I was startled steal in my
mind about what that was walking. And

423
00:32:49.839 --> 00:32:52.599
by the time I got to the
there was a little bob war fence in

424
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:59.000
the bottom hollow of the second heel
that was old and it was rusty you

425
00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:02.680
could step on for most of it
had been used in years, but by

426
00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:07.000
the time I got to the top
of the third heel, the last heel,

427
00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:10.960
I started climbing down that hel and
I heard it again, but this

428
00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:15.279
time it was up on top of
the hill. I just came down to

429
00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:19.799
my left and it was walking.
I would stop and it would stop,

430
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:22.920
and then I would walk a little
further down, and you could hear anything

431
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:28.720
walking these dead leaves. There was
real crunch sound, and I thought,

432
00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:34.559
somebody's in here hunting. And I
couldn't imagine anybody hunting on my grandfather's farm.

433
00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:37.480
First of all, he wouldn't allow
him as we were there. And

434
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:42.839
I went on down and I found
the creek with my flashlight and I walked

435
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:46.799
around the edge of the bank until
I found the tree that i'd put my

436
00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:52.039
stand around the day before, and
I pretty hardly got into it. I

437
00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:54.920
put my feet in the straps and
I leaned back and started climbing the tree

438
00:33:55.359 --> 00:34:00.079
and I climbed on up. And
that takes probably few fifteen minutes to get

439
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:04.279
up there with a climbing stand.
I was up about twenty five feet off

440
00:34:04.279 --> 00:34:07.119
the ground. That's about what I
know. Mely like to hunt, and

441
00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:09.400
I've got a real good view,
but it's still dark, and I got

442
00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:13.840
up and I leaned back. When
you lean back, it makes the frame

443
00:34:13.880 --> 00:34:16.719
of that stick into the tree real
good where it won't sleep. And I

444
00:34:16.760 --> 00:34:21.760
had a safety strap I put on
and put on the lamb behind me around

445
00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:24.440
it in case of the stand fell, I wouldn't fall with it. And

446
00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:29.760
got my stuff hung up on those
branches up there. I'm a pack on

447
00:34:29.840 --> 00:34:32.519
the right and my lunch, and
I hung a pair of binoculars to the

448
00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:37.480
left, and I leaned back and
got set up. They had this stand

449
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:43.119
had a little camel cover that you
pull this bar down in front of it

450
00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:46.920
that goes around you in It covers
you from right below your neck all the

451
00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:51.639
way down to your feet. It
covers you real well. It looks like

452
00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:54.880
you can't see a person in it. It always wore a black out onto

453
00:34:54.880 --> 00:35:00.480
my eyes when I hunt, because
the sun glare if it's sun shines that

454
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:04.559
a major face sparkle a lot of
times. A deer spot that. And

455
00:35:05.360 --> 00:35:08.519
I'm set up. It's still dark. I'm thinking, is what was that?

456
00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:12.639
I heard? And I didn't hear
it anymore. I heard it go

457
00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:15.639
down to the left of me,
on top of the hill, down toward

458
00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:20.039
that cane fidget and stopped. I
didn't hear it anymore. I sat there

459
00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:22.239
a good while. I don't know
quite how long. It was over an

460
00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:28.679
hour, and then it started getting
a little light. I didn't hear any

461
00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:32.519
sounds in the woods. It was
unusually quiet. There was no sounds at

462
00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:37.760
all. And then about daylight when
I could really start to see across the

463
00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:43.360
creek and that clearing. There was
a real foggy morning, and the creek

464
00:35:43.400 --> 00:35:46.639
had fogged on it, and I
couldn't see across to the clearing, and

465
00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:52.760
I started hearing rigular animals then that
you're hearing the woods, squirrels and birds

466
00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:58.480
and everything else. And as daylight
were starting to come up and the sun

467
00:35:58.639 --> 00:36:06.960
was setting is somewhere around seven forty
five or so, the fog get cleared

468
00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:09.320
a little across the creek and I
could see the clearing on that side.

469
00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:14.679
Then, and to the left of
me, I've seen a deer come out

470
00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:19.199
somewhere around that cane area, and
it was a female deer, a dough.

471
00:36:20.119 --> 00:36:22.559
It came out over there, and
it crossed through the creek, went

472
00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:28.159
up the other side of the bank
and went on that game trail and walked

473
00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:31.760
down the side of that creek bank
and I'm up high enough I'm almost looking

474
00:36:31.960 --> 00:36:37.960
over on it and this tree the
creek by the angle I was. And

475
00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:43.000
then two more came out, and
they were smaller ones following this one.

476
00:36:43.400 --> 00:36:46.320
And I watched these deer play over
there. They were just walking around.

477
00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:51.480
There was two younger ones, probably
yearlings, from that large dough, and

478
00:36:52.159 --> 00:36:54.400
they were just walking around. It
was a real good year for acrens,

479
00:36:54.400 --> 00:37:00.480
and they were eating acorns and milling
around, kicking the leaves like deer trying

480
00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:04.440
to find food in the morning.
And I watched them walk around over there

481
00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:07.920
for a good bet they've never seen
me, and I was real stealing and

482
00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:13.599
quiet, and I had my gun
propped right against that bar in front of

483
00:37:13.639 --> 00:37:17.239
me, and I was feeling pretty
excited. I have seen three deer.

484
00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:21.679
Normally, when you see dough that
time of year, there's going to be

485
00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:24.719
a buck somewhere close by, which
is the mail deer. And I watched

486
00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:30.519
them for a good while, and
it was a little after eight. I

487
00:37:30.559 --> 00:37:34.840
don't remember the only reason I remember
this time because back in the day,

488
00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:37.599
I wore one of these old iron
Man watches, if you remember those things,

489
00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:40.559
and I had what was called in
to glow on them. You could

490
00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:45.599
push a button and it was a
lot to glow up on it and use

491
00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:49.280
that to go in the woods before
that light, and it lit up pretty

492
00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:52.760
good. But they also had a
little stopwatch on it. I would I

493
00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:55.880
would always push that little stopwatch button
when I seen a deer come out that

494
00:37:55.960 --> 00:38:00.679
way. I would have a relative
of time of what time to be there

495
00:38:00.760 --> 00:38:05.159
the next time, because they normally
follow a pattern. And I'd pushed that

496
00:38:05.239 --> 00:38:09.000
button that morning, and I believe
it was eight point fifteen or right at

497
00:38:09.079 --> 00:38:13.599
that when I pushed it, And
then when I didn't see another deer,

498
00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:17.199
I'd push it and have a time
frame when I watched these deer play and

499
00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:22.000
they walk down and they never noticed
me. They were just the two little

500
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:27.039
ones were to the right and left
of the bigger deer, and they were

501
00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:30.639
all eating, and they were facing
to my left, looking straight ahead,

502
00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:35.840
and all of a sudden they turned
to the left a little bit, and

503
00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:39.960
the lead deer, the larger female, just all of a sudden just thros.

504
00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:45.280
All three of them were looking towards
this cane thicket, and I'm thinking,

505
00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:49.079
here's a buck deer about to come
out that's what they're looking at.

506
00:38:49.639 --> 00:38:52.920
The lead deer was just frozen,
her ears sticking straight up, looking right

507
00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:55.920
toward that cane area. And I
looked at the other two deer. They

508
00:38:55.960 --> 00:39:00.880
were doing the same thing. They
were not even moving. And then the

509
00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:06.199
lead deer took a right front foot
and raised it about three times like she

510
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:08.760
was trying to get something to move, and she would hit the ground with

511
00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:14.400
her front hoof, and I thought, you know, there comes a buck.

512
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:19.159
You better get ready here because one's
about to come out. And then

513
00:39:19.199 --> 00:39:23.199
all of a sudden, she raised
her nose like she was smelling, and

514
00:39:23.239 --> 00:39:28.599
she makes this real loud, blowing
noise, and it almost sounds like somebody's

515
00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:32.760
sneezing, real loud, but it's
a lot louder than a sneeze. She

516
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:37.320
makes that real loud sound, and
then she goes right back to that frozen

517
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:43.840
moment, just staying right in that
area. And my anticipation is there comes

518
00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:49.000
a big buck out of this somewhere
over next this cane thicket. And then

519
00:39:49.039 --> 00:39:52.719
all of a sudden, she turns
to the right and takes off, just

520
00:39:53.039 --> 00:39:57.760
running as fast as she can.
She runs right by the front of me.

521
00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:00.960
On this game trail, running as
fast as she can. The other

522
00:40:01.000 --> 00:40:05.559
two deer followed her, and I
watched them till they run out of site,

523
00:40:05.880 --> 00:40:08.599
and I thought, that's strange.
I normally a deer doesn't do that

524
00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:14.480
with a buck coming there. Something
that's normally like when you spook them or

525
00:40:14.639 --> 00:40:17.639
somebody scared them or shot at them. And I deer hunted all my life.

526
00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:22.440
I was real familiar with what deer
would do. And I watched them

527
00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:24.639
go out of side, and it
got real quiet, and I'm anticipating the

528
00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:30.039
big buck coming out over there somewhere, and I remember reaching down to my

529
00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:34.920
rifle, my muzzle loader, and
I pull the hammer back on it,

530
00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:38.519
and that's a click. I did
it real quietly, work I'd be ready

531
00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:43.760
if it stepped out. And I
waited a few minutes, nothing happened,

532
00:40:43.800 --> 00:40:47.079
and a few more minutes nothing happened. And then all of a sudden,

533
00:40:47.079 --> 00:40:52.320
I see the cane. It's moving. And this cane is so thick that

534
00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:57.960
I couldn't walk for it. It's
just right next to each other, large

535
00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:01.360
thick cane, and were over in
the middle of it. The cane was

536
00:41:01.480 --> 00:41:06.519
moving. It's twelve or fifteen foot
tall, and you can see it swaying

537
00:41:06.679 --> 00:41:09.280
from the back edge to the front, and I'm thinking, man, this

538
00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:15.199
must be a massive deer because the
move that came like that, and I

539
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:19.800
watched it move all the way to
the front, somewhere down through the front

540
00:41:19.800 --> 00:41:22.519
of it, so it stopped and
then it stopped moving, and I'm ready

541
00:41:22.639 --> 00:41:30.320
thinking this is a record whitetail because
I couldn't imagine anything pushing that cane around

542
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:36.039
like that. And then outsteps this
creature and I steal right now. Every

543
00:41:36.039 --> 00:41:39.159
time I tell the story, it
was definitely a life change and experience.

544
00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:45.199
It was when I seen this thing
step out. I kept looking. I

545
00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:49.480
thought, am I really seeing this? And it was just a tall,

546
00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:55.880
big black creature and it stepped out. It took one step and just leaked

547
00:41:57.239 --> 00:42:01.119
completely across to the other side of
the crew and landing on that game trail

548
00:42:01.159 --> 00:42:05.679
on the other side, and I
mean, I'm just what is this?

549
00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:09.760
It was just a terrifying moment.
I was literally scared of death. I

550
00:42:09.800 --> 00:42:14.920
didn't never seen anything like this and
didn't even know this. I didn't know

551
00:42:14.960 --> 00:42:20.159
there was anything like that in these
woods. I never seen anything. And

552
00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:24.119
it walks right on the game trail, right across almost did in front of

553
00:42:24.119 --> 00:42:29.960
me. I'm looking down on it
in this tree at an angle, and

554
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:36.039
it's walks right down the game trail. It stops and turns and looks right

555
00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:39.159
at me. This thing knew exactly
where I was at. They knew I

556
00:42:39.239 --> 00:42:44.400
was in the tree. I'm thinking, oh my gosh, what is this?

557
00:42:45.159 --> 00:42:50.280
I was just I can barely breathe
was I never I don't scare easy.

558
00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:55.840
I've never gotten scared of since like
that. And this thing just looks

559
00:42:55.880 --> 00:43:00.360
at me. It shows me its
teeth, it just like Gritsy's teeth,

560
00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:06.639
shows me its teeth, looking like
it's really mad. And it was the

561
00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:10.760
ugliest meniu sligging thing I've ever seen. And it just stared at me for

562
00:43:10.800 --> 00:43:17.559
a minute. And then it walks
over to that limb that wasn't very far

563
00:43:17.599 --> 00:43:22.159
from where it was standing where I
had that drag rag hanging in there.

564
00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:25.800
It reaches up, it pulls it
down, and its head was about the

565
00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:30.239
same heights as that, so I'm
thinking it's real close to eight foot or

566
00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:34.480
a little more. And it reaches
down, smells that rag, and then

567
00:43:34.519 --> 00:43:39.159
it just pulls that limb, rips
the whole limb off the tree and this

568
00:43:39.239 --> 00:43:43.440
tree. Lamb was not a massive
limb. It was probably three or four

569
00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:45.719
inches at the very base where it
went into the tree. One thinking,

570
00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:51.079
what has that kind of power rip
that limb out of the tree. And

571
00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:53.320
by this time I could barely breathe. I'm serious. I was thinking what

572
00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:57.639
do I do? Do I shoot
this thing? Is it going to come

573
00:43:57.639 --> 00:44:01.000
across the creek and just pull me
out of the tree. It was just

574
00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:05.840
a I had so many thoughts running
through my mind. I remember just sitting

575
00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:08.519
there, just sweating and thinking what
do I do here? And then it

576
00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:14.239
walks right back to the same spot
it was that it looks at me again

577
00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:17.880
like it's really mad. It did
not like me being there, and it

578
00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:22.400
lets out a growl, a real
low, long growl, and I've still

579
00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:27.559
never heard a growl like that,
And I thought, this is it.

580
00:44:27.639 --> 00:44:30.719
This thing's coming across the creek.
It's going to pull me out of this

581
00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:35.960
tree, and it's going to just
kill me. So I just was just

582
00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:38.639
didn't know what to do. And
I've got my hand on my gun.

583
00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:43.559
I thought, do I fire and
shoot this time? And I said,

584
00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:45.760
now, I don't think one bullet
will kill this time. And I don't

585
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:52.480
have time to reload. And I
just sat there, just frozen, trying

586
00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:57.840
to was just scared to death,
trying to get my breath. And then

587
00:44:57.880 --> 00:45:01.760
it looks at me and then it
it's out this yale that I've never heard

588
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:08.960
before, and just an unbelievable scream, like the yale we'll be back with

589
00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:19.280
more Bigfoot Society after these words from
our sponsors that echoed all down through that

590
00:45:19.360 --> 00:45:23.760
hollow, and it's just a terrifying
yale. I've never heard anything like that

591
00:45:23.920 --> 00:45:28.079
saying, so I've heard big Foot
yale, and I like that. This

592
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:30.679
thing was really mad. I was
there, I thought, well it freak,

593
00:45:31.079 --> 00:45:36.440
and I was ready to just pick
my gun up. I was thinking

594
00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:40.400
should I just jump and run or
should I fire? And it stares at

595
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:45.360
me for a few more seconds,
and then it turns and it walks straight

596
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:50.679
behind where it's standing, and it
continues to walk, and it turns and

597
00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:57.039
looks at me one more time with
a just a really mad evil look.

598
00:45:57.440 --> 00:46:00.599
And then I watched it walk on
through the hardwoods. It was out of

599
00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:05.280
sight, and I was in such
a panic. I thought, I don't

600
00:46:05.320 --> 00:46:08.400
have fifteen minutes to get out of
this tree. Climbing back down or I

601
00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:12.760
just lowered the bar in front of
it. I jumped out of the top

602
00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:15.880
of the tree stand and I landed. It was such a steep embankment.

603
00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:19.440
I landed it. When I landed
on the levees, I had my gun

604
00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:23.159
above my head and I slid all
the way down this bank into the creek,

605
00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:27.719
and I jumped up out of the
creek and I looked back to see

606
00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:30.159
if it was there, and I
didn't see it. And I run up

607
00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:34.960
out of the creek and I run
up and up that heel. There was

608
00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:38.400
a little ravine to my right.
There there was a little narrow spot that

609
00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:42.519
I went up and it went quite
as steep, and I'm running as fast

610
00:46:42.519 --> 00:46:45.920
as I could run. I left
everything, just ran with my gun and

611
00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:51.119
I climbed over that first hill,
and I kept looking back and I didn't

612
00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:53.360
see it. I got over the
first heel and I was running as fast

613
00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:58.400
as I could down the second one. And got down the second one,

614
00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:01.320
jumped that little small box fence and
went up. I was going up to

615
00:47:01.320 --> 00:47:05.400
the other side of the second heel, and I looked back and there it

616
00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:08.079
was on top of the heel set, standing up there next our tree,

617
00:47:08.119 --> 00:47:12.199
just watching me. Now. I
don't know if it was the same one

618
00:47:12.320 --> 00:47:15.079
or another one, but it was
one of them standing up there looking at

619
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:19.880
me, and that just gave me
more adrenaline when I seen that thing,

620
00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:23.159
so I just kept running as fast
as I could. I remember thinking what

621
00:47:23.199 --> 00:47:25.880
it's going to get me before I
get to the top of the heel,

622
00:47:25.960 --> 00:47:30.920
and I kept running. I got
over the top of that heel and I

623
00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:35.760
was on the headed down the bottom
of the last heel and the bob war

624
00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:38.840
fence that I climbed over that morning
is probably about seven foot tile and I

625
00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:43.079
said, I'm not climbing, I'm
jumping it. And I jumped it.

626
00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:46.159
I cleared it, but the bottom
of my left pants led caught the bob

627
00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:50.440
wire and ripped it all the way
up past my knee and cut a huge

628
00:47:50.559 --> 00:47:52.880
gash on the side of my leg. I didn't even know what it was

629
00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:57.360
cut at that time. But and
I've cleared that, I'm running through this

630
00:47:57.599 --> 00:48:02.960
sage field between the fence line my
grandfather's back gate. It's about two hundred

631
00:48:04.079 --> 00:48:07.800
yards wide, and I'm looking back
the whole time thinking this thing's coming.

632
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:10.079
And I get to the gate,
opened the gate real quick, shut it

633
00:48:10.119 --> 00:48:14.840
real quick, looked and didn't see
it. And I ran into his backyard

634
00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:17.280
and I went up on his porch, his old wood back porch had an

635
00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:23.639
overhang on it, and went to
the back door and shut the back door,

636
00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:27.840
locked it and looked out the glass. I didn't see it. And

637
00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:32.719
I went into the right which went
through his kitchen into his sitting area and

638
00:48:32.840 --> 00:48:37.679
had this big, huge pot belly
stove that was between the corner of his

639
00:48:37.840 --> 00:48:42.960
living room and the floor and his
sitting area. I went over to just

640
00:48:43.000 --> 00:48:47.039
sit down in the corner and on
the floor, and I was just completely

641
00:48:47.199 --> 00:48:51.880
out of breath. And my grandfather
was saying, boy, what's wrong with

642
00:48:51.960 --> 00:48:54.079
you? And I couldn't even speak. I was so out of breath.

643
00:48:55.199 --> 00:48:58.800
And I got up real quick and
went and looked out the wind in the

644
00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:02.079
back door again and see it,
and came back and sat back down.

645
00:49:02.119 --> 00:49:06.599
He said, boy, what's wrong
with you? And I said, I

646
00:49:06.639 --> 00:49:09.400
finally got my breath and I said, I sang a monster in the woods.

647
00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:14.280
He said a monster, and I
said, yeah, I've never seen

648
00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:16.559
anything like that. He said what
do you look like? And I said,

649
00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:21.719
was this huge creature? Black?
And it was a Meani slicking thing

650
00:49:21.800 --> 00:49:25.679
I've ever seen. And he said, oh, you sing a wood burger.

651
00:49:27.320 --> 00:49:31.039
And I was in shock. I
said, I've lived on this farm

652
00:49:31.079 --> 00:49:35.840
and my granddad a lot or I
stayed there with my grandparents. My mom

653
00:49:35.880 --> 00:49:39.519
and dad worked in Nashville, which
was about ninety two miles away, and

654
00:49:39.960 --> 00:49:45.239
I stayed there. So we moved
to our home and out side of Nashville,

655
00:49:46.119 --> 00:49:50.239
and I stayed there every summer with
him and helped him in the fielden

656
00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:52.559
I wasn't in school. How does
the shock? I said, what is

657
00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:57.559
a woodburger? He goes, all
they live around here and I said,

658
00:49:57.719 --> 00:50:01.000
I've been with you all these years, Granddad, You've never mentioned anything about

659
00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:05.599
a woodburger. He said, oh
yeah, he said I've seen four in

660
00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:08.920
the lifetime. He said, they
don't bother you. They're real territorial.

661
00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:13.639
He said, I should have thought, being over in that area, there

662
00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:15.679
was probably going to be one of
them too you because nobody goes back in

663
00:50:15.719 --> 00:50:19.800
there. And I said, you
never told me about one of them,

664
00:50:19.800 --> 00:50:22.280
and if you had it, I
would have never went in there. And

665
00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:24.119
he said, that's why I didn't
tell you. He said, you've hunted

666
00:50:24.199 --> 00:50:28.920
in these woods all your life and
he Guss had slept in the barn loft,

667
00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:30.480
and he said, I didn't want
to scare you about him, because

668
00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:36.400
they don't harm you. And I
said this thing wanted to kill me and

669
00:50:36.440 --> 00:50:39.079
he said I didn't and he said
I ain't. Doesn't worry about boy to

670
00:50:39.079 --> 00:50:43.440
be okay, And I said,
oh yeah, I'm not going back there

671
00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:46.719
again. And he said, I've
been in the field and I'll be working.

672
00:50:46.840 --> 00:50:50.719
I look up and when I'm standing
there next to the fance er watching

673
00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:53.119
me work, I said, you
had these things that close? He said,

674
00:50:53.159 --> 00:50:57.000
oh, they I've seen four of
them and I've heard a lot hear

675
00:50:57.039 --> 00:51:00.000
them yelling. And I said,
how did I miss out on them?

676
00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:02.920
Because I've been here so often,
I've never heard one that I know of.

677
00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:07.480
And he was real, he wasn't
real nervous about him, and I

678
00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:13.679
was still just scared to death.
And he said, boy, you look

679
00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:15.800
like you've seen a ghost. And
I said, I feel like I did

680
00:51:15.880 --> 00:51:22.400
see a ghost. And it was
just terrified me. And I got up

681
00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:25.159
several of the times and looked out
their window to see if it was coming.

682
00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:30.400
I never seen it again. And
I sat there for a couple hours

683
00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:35.519
and just scared to death, and
my granddad was trying to calm me down.

684
00:51:35.599 --> 00:51:38.960
He said, then things. My
granddad had a big chicken house out

685
00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:43.599
to the left of his back porchs
and it was made out of loud him

686
00:51:43.639 --> 00:51:49.360
and his family had made it years
before then and had a door on it,

687
00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:51.760
and he had a lot of chickens. He goes in the wintertime,

688
00:51:51.800 --> 00:51:53.760
they'll come up here and they'll take
a couple of them. They get hungry,

689
00:51:54.000 --> 00:51:58.719
can't find any food, and they'll
take a couple of chickens, and

690
00:51:58.719 --> 00:52:01.599
they'll leave a little pile of rocks
and sticks like they're paying for it.

691
00:52:02.639 --> 00:52:07.840
And I'm just sitting there amazed.
I and my granddad were very close,

692
00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:12.079
and I never heard of one or
seen one. And he said, you

693
00:52:12.079 --> 00:52:15.840
remember, your grandma used to tell
you, don't y'all stay out after dog

694
00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:19.119
here, y'all get in the house, because the boogerman will get you in.

695
00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:22.079
I said that was the boogerman.
He said, yep. And I'm

696
00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:28.840
still just flipped out a nervous wreck. And a couple of hours later,

697
00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:30.920
my friends come back and one of
them had killed a big deer and they

698
00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:34.800
were down at the camper, and
I walked down to see them, and

699
00:52:35.440 --> 00:52:37.239
I said, hey, guys,
we've been coming up here a long time

700
00:52:37.519 --> 00:52:42.880
now. Have you ever seen anything
in the woods? And they looked at

701
00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:45.239
me, like, what are you
talking about, big dal I said,

702
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:49.039
they were skinning the deer out.
They hang you in a three only one,

703
00:52:49.079 --> 00:52:52.000
I may kill one. And I
said something maybe like a bigfoot or

704
00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:55.159
something, and they started laughing.
They looked at me and said, you

705
00:52:55.199 --> 00:52:58.440
had too much to drink last night, and I said, God, I

706
00:52:58.480 --> 00:53:02.159
didn't drink anything. And I didn't
say anything else about it. I could

707
00:53:02.199 --> 00:53:07.440
tell they didn't. They thought I
was crazy. So went on back to

708
00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:13.719
our grandfather's house and I actually I
didn't stand another night in the camper.

709
00:53:14.119 --> 00:53:17.000
I stayed in the house and my
granddad slept in the bedroom in there,

710
00:53:17.239 --> 00:53:22.400
and they studied the camper, and
they were concerned about me. They kept

711
00:53:22.400 --> 00:53:25.320
passing me when i'd go out there
and stay with them till they went to

712
00:53:25.320 --> 00:53:29.639
bed, and they couldn't understand why
I was staying in the camper, but

713
00:53:30.440 --> 00:53:34.480
I was staying there with him and
I study, you know, the rest

714
00:53:34.480 --> 00:53:36.679
of the We stayed there a week, and I was in there the rest

715
00:53:36.719 --> 00:53:42.079
of the week with him at night
and couldn't sleep just thinking this thing was

716
00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:45.280
coming looking in the window or something. It was like some type of fear

717
00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:51.840
I've never had, and it really
messed me up for a while. I

718
00:53:51.920 --> 00:53:55.599
never thought if these things existed.
I thought they were out in California or

719
00:53:55.599 --> 00:54:00.559
Oregon, or Washington or British Columbia. I think they were in Tennessee.

720
00:54:00.760 --> 00:54:05.159
But they were. And we went
up there a couple of years after that,

721
00:54:05.400 --> 00:54:07.440
and I didn't hunt. I told
my buddies, we'll go up there.

722
00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:09.480
I didn't tell him I wasn't going
to hunt till we got there.

723
00:54:09.559 --> 00:54:13.000
Y'all go ahead and hunt. I'm
gonna hang out with my granddad. He's

724
00:54:13.000 --> 00:54:15.559
getting older, and he was I
didn't want to spend time with him,

725
00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:20.760
but I didn't care to hunt.
I didn't hunt for I didn't go in

726
00:54:20.760 --> 00:54:25.199
the woods for about seven years.
What deer hunting I did do was with

727
00:54:25.320 --> 00:54:30.480
friends on a farm, at my
farm or somebody else's. I'd pull up

728
00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:34.280
in my truck and set there out
towards the woods and didn't get out of

729
00:54:34.280 --> 00:54:37.119
the truck. I just watch the
woodline. But it missed it. It

730
00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:40.440
can really, it is definitely life
changing. I've never had that kind of

731
00:54:40.440 --> 00:54:46.239
fear before since I think now looking
back on it, if it wanted to

732
00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:50.760
kill me, it could have,
and I realized that over time it didn't

733
00:54:50.800 --> 00:54:52.119
want to kill me. It just
wanted to run me out of his area.

734
00:54:52.159 --> 00:54:55.719
I probably messed up as deer hunt. That was my first encounter.

735
00:54:57.440 --> 00:55:02.440
Darryl, that's incredible. Do you
mind sharing what county in Tennessee that was

736
00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:07.280
in? It's Cannon County, Tennessee, Cannon County, Okay. Interesting.

737
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:13.800
Well, have you ever seen anything
in like a drawing of it or an

738
00:55:13.880 --> 00:55:19.039
illustration that looked similar to what you
saw that day? I actually, you

739
00:55:19.039 --> 00:55:22.119
know, after I got home,
I started going to the library because there

740
00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:27.360
wasn't a cell phone. I didn't
have a cell phone then or internet or

741
00:55:27.360 --> 00:55:30.800
anything. And I'm still not very
good with technology, but I actually went

742
00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:37.639
to several libraries back home trying to
find pictures a big foot, and I

743
00:55:37.679 --> 00:55:42.119
actually did find one that looked like
it. And strangely, there was like

744
00:55:42.280 --> 00:55:45.119
there was a book where ten pictures
a big foot in it. They said

745
00:55:45.159 --> 00:55:50.679
the ten different type, and the
number two one on the book was called

746
00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:54.599
the Woodburger, and it looked identical
to this time, except it didn't have

747
00:55:54.719 --> 00:55:58.840
red eyes. The one in the
picture had red eyes. The one I

748
00:55:58.960 --> 00:56:04.199
said didn't have red eyes. It
just had dark eyes, and like it

749
00:56:04.239 --> 00:56:08.039
was dark eyes in the middle was
some yellowish white around. I'm just wasn't

750
00:56:08.039 --> 00:56:14.159
read. But everything else looked like
the picture there was pretty terrifying. When

751
00:56:14.199 --> 00:56:15.400
I seen it, I thought,
oh, gosh, there it is right

752
00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:20.480
there. Wow, that's incredible,
man. And the great thing about like

753
00:56:20.920 --> 00:56:24.719
the listeners that I have is someone
will comment within an hour after this is

754
00:56:24.719 --> 00:56:28.960
posted and say, oh, it's
this book and it's on this page.

755
00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:31.119
Yeah, they probably know it,
and I've actually looked it up. I've

756
00:56:31.119 --> 00:56:35.440
actually got a picture of it.
I say, over the years, I

757
00:56:35.480 --> 00:56:38.920
don't have the fear I had of
it then. But it's definitely a life

758
00:56:39.039 --> 00:56:43.920
changing moment when you see one of
those things. And this wasn't a friendly

759
00:56:43.960 --> 00:56:47.519
looking If it had been a friendly
looking one or didn't act irritated or mad,

760
00:56:49.199 --> 00:56:51.760
I'm out of taken it a little
better. But this thing we had

761
00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:55.000
an intention of really being mad at
me. I could tell by this expression.

762
00:56:55.119 --> 00:57:00.679
The way it looked at this mouth
was to the right kind of contortion,

763
00:57:00.559 --> 00:57:04.679
like it was just ready to kill
me. It was really mad.

764
00:57:04.719 --> 00:57:08.280
That I was there, and like
I said, I didn't hunt for years,

765
00:57:08.280 --> 00:57:12.960
didn't go in the woods. I
had nightmares for weeks, I didn't

766
00:57:13.000 --> 00:57:17.880
sleep. This went on for a
long time, and I still had nightmareers

767
00:57:17.920 --> 00:57:23.360
about it. For the only thing
that saved me from that was I've been

768
00:57:23.519 --> 00:57:28.719
very fortunate. I don't understand how
it works because I've got friends that's been

769
00:57:28.719 --> 00:57:32.199
in the woods for years and years
hunting, even older friends that's been in

770
00:57:32.239 --> 00:57:37.199
there fifty years, deer hunting and
all type of game hunting. And I'm

771
00:57:37.360 --> 00:57:42.000
con hunting that area not that far
in but not far from it. When

772
00:57:42.000 --> 00:57:45.880
I was a kid with my uncles
and never heard of a wood burger,

773
00:57:46.119 --> 00:57:49.840
and I never heard one of them
mention it. They grew up there.

774
00:57:50.039 --> 00:57:55.960
But I think that some people,
for some reason, find these things find

775
00:57:57.000 --> 00:58:00.760
you. You don't ever find them. But I have something in me that

776
00:58:01.719 --> 00:58:06.599
they find me, and I don't
know. I didn't know that till after

777
00:58:06.679 --> 00:58:09.880
that occurrence, but I would have
never gotten over that. Martin Grows and

778
00:58:09.960 --> 00:58:14.320
I talked about this back then,
back in the nineties. We'd go to

779
00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:16.559
lunch. I'd meet him for lunch
and he was in a sheriff's apartment and

780
00:58:17.119 --> 00:58:21.599
I was going to a meeting or
somewhere up in the county, and we

781
00:58:21.639 --> 00:58:25.400
would just talking about our experience.
We had nobody else to talk to.

782
00:58:27.000 --> 00:58:31.480
And it's pretty crazy, and it's
still today. It's still a fear in

783
00:58:31.519 --> 00:58:35.800
me from that. And I don't
know why I still have it. But

784
00:58:36.280 --> 00:58:38.519
if I hadn't run into my if
I hadn't had my second encounter, I

785
00:58:38.519 --> 00:58:42.639
don't think I would have ever gotten
over it. I'm good with it now.

786
00:58:42.679 --> 00:58:45.400
I don't have nightmares about it anymore. I did for a long time.

787
00:58:46.119 --> 00:58:52.000
But I think the worst thing about
it is you're on your own back

788
00:58:52.039 --> 00:58:54.960
in that day. You can't tell
anybody. You just have to live with

789
00:58:55.039 --> 00:59:00.679
it. And I even told my
wife at that time, and really,

790
00:59:00.719 --> 00:59:04.639
you seen that? And I said, she goes, I believe you.

791
00:59:04.800 --> 00:59:07.480
I know you're honest, but you've
seen that? And I said, yes,

792
00:59:07.480 --> 00:59:10.239
she goes, you've probably seen a
bear. I said, now,

793
00:59:10.760 --> 00:59:15.400
what a bear? And I just
left it at that. Since I've gotten

794
00:59:15.440 --> 00:59:21.000
since something older, she knows all
about the story. And my granddad was

795
00:59:21.400 --> 00:59:24.440
oh shalot about it, like it
wasn't a big deal. That was probably

796
00:59:24.800 --> 00:59:30.280
a shock and a thing that happened
because I ain't ever told me about him,

797
00:59:30.519 --> 00:59:34.400
but I understand why he didn't.
But he's been gone quite a while,

798
00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:38.679
right. But my second encounter was
by accident. I wasn't out looking

799
00:59:38.719 --> 00:59:43.079
for big fit. I wouldn't even
hunting, And if I hadn't had that

800
00:59:43.280 --> 00:59:47.960
encounter, I probably would have never
gotten over it. That was what changed

801
00:59:49.000 --> 00:59:53.559
everything for me. And I've had
so many encounters since then. I some

802
00:59:53.599 --> 00:59:57.039
people said, how do you say, and we don't. I don't know

803
00:59:57.079 --> 01:00:02.239
how I say them all? Have
all your big foot encounters happened in Tennessee,

804
01:00:02.559 --> 01:00:07.239
Darryl, most of them. I
had one in Virginia and I had

805
01:00:07.679 --> 01:00:12.800
actually I had two in Virginia.
My nine year old daughter and I and

806
01:00:12.840 --> 01:00:17.719
she's really into my nine row way
of sage, really talks about bigfoot all

807
01:00:17.760 --> 01:00:22.320
the time. Because you know how
much I'm up to it. We'll be

808
01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:30.599
back with more Bigfoot society after these
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809
01:00:30.639 --> 01:00:34.400
all the gifts I did ever year. This room here's covered, we're bigfoot

810
01:00:34.519 --> 01:00:38.719
statues and everything else. I'm sure
me and she even got me a big

811
01:00:38.760 --> 01:00:44.280
but me and her, it was
incredible. It was about two months ago,

812
01:00:44.360 --> 01:00:46.920
we were coming through a rural area. I was taking her home to

813
01:00:47.000 --> 01:00:52.800
her mother's house. And it's a
real rural area outside of Smithfield, Virginia.

814
01:00:52.880 --> 01:00:57.119
And we're riding down this road and
I'm taking her home and it's near

815
01:00:57.280 --> 01:01:00.079
dark and in summertime then it was
hot outside. It didn't get dark to

816
01:01:00.119 --> 01:01:04.960
eight thirty or a quarter to nine
at night. And I'm driving down this

817
01:01:05.639 --> 01:01:09.119
rural area road, a two lane
highway and it's actually a four lane but

818
01:01:09.159 --> 01:01:14.000
they're split up, and it's real, real, and there's a car in

819
01:01:14.039 --> 01:01:17.440
front of me, and I'm watching
this car keeps breaking and my daughter says,

820
01:01:19.440 --> 01:01:22.440
Dad, there's a man chasing a
deer. And I looked to the

821
01:01:22.599 --> 01:01:30.000
right and this bigfoot is chasing a
deer over toward the woods down the side

822
01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:34.159
of the road here. And I
couldn't believe my eyes. And it wasn't

823
01:01:34.199 --> 01:01:37.719
a big one. It was a
juvenile. It might have been six or

824
01:01:37.760 --> 01:01:40.239
seven foot tall, but it was
real fan it was chasing this deer.

825
01:01:40.320 --> 01:01:43.559
I said, no, I saw
the deer. That's a bigfoot. And

826
01:01:43.599 --> 01:01:46.079
she looked at me, really,
and then it turned Oh, we only

827
01:01:46.159 --> 01:01:50.719
seen it for a second, because
when it seemed The lady in front of

828
01:01:50.760 --> 01:01:54.199
me was with her daughter and they
had seen it too, and they pulled

829
01:01:54.280 --> 01:01:59.440
over to the side of the road, and I pulled over too and stopped.

830
01:01:59.440 --> 01:02:01.519
My daughter said, I handed her
myself out, and she started filming,

831
01:02:01.840 --> 01:02:06.719
and she didn't get the picture of
the big foot, but she got

832
01:02:06.760 --> 01:02:09.679
the deer. This deer was running
as fast as it could run, and

833
01:02:09.840 --> 01:02:14.480
this sign was chasing it. My
daughter thought it was a man checked his

834
01:02:14.599 --> 01:02:17.880
deer and I said, now that's
a big foot. And it quickly turned

835
01:02:17.920 --> 01:02:22.800
and we got to back. His
backside is one of these real thick brush

836
01:02:22.840 --> 01:02:27.000
area. When he'd seen the cars
and realized we'd seen it, it ran

837
01:02:27.079 --> 01:02:30.280
into the woods where we couldn't see
it. And I stopped, and this

838
01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:34.239
lady in front of me stopped,
and I got out of the car and

839
01:02:34.679 --> 01:02:37.320
got out of my suv, and
my daughter's sitting there and she goes,

840
01:02:37.320 --> 01:02:40.159
where are you going? I said, I'm going to talk to this lady

841
01:02:40.199 --> 01:02:45.400
a second. And the lady gets
out of her car and she has a

842
01:02:45.400 --> 01:02:49.119
little girl with her, and she
goes, what was that? And I

843
01:02:49.159 --> 01:02:52.599
said, looked like a big foot
and she goes, what that's the way

844
01:02:52.639 --> 01:02:55.519
she acted. She goes, I've
seen it. She goes, I don't

845
01:02:55.559 --> 01:03:00.800
know what it was, but nothing
like i'd sing, and why I told

846
01:03:00.800 --> 01:03:02.239
her as a big fit. She
jumped back in the car and locked her

847
01:03:02.280 --> 01:03:06.239
doors and heard her little girl just
took off. They were getting out of

848
01:03:06.280 --> 01:03:09.280
there, but me and her pulled
up and we pulled into where we seeing

849
01:03:09.280 --> 01:03:13.440
it running to the brush and it
was almost dark at that time, you

850
01:03:13.440 --> 01:03:16.559
could barely see light. And I
walked down into the woods trying to get

851
01:03:16.559 --> 01:03:19.719
a picture of it. I took
my camera. I said, you stay

852
01:03:19.719 --> 01:03:22.280
in the car, and I locked
the doors. I said, if you

853
01:03:22.320 --> 01:03:24.280
see it or get scared, you
blow the horn. And she goes,

854
01:03:24.320 --> 01:03:27.519
don't go down in there, and
I said, I'll be okay. So

855
01:03:27.639 --> 01:03:30.239
I walked down. There was like
a little trail or logging road or something

856
01:03:30.280 --> 01:03:34.920
that went down in there, and
I followed it around probably about one hundred

857
01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:37.920
yards back in there, and I
took a bunch of pictures in that area.

858
01:03:37.920 --> 01:03:40.440
I heard it walking. I could
hear it walking in there, but

859
01:03:40.480 --> 01:03:45.079
I couldn't see it, and I
just started taking pictures in the woods,

860
01:03:45.159 --> 01:03:49.960
and I actually got a silhouette of
it. As matter of fact, Jennifer

861
01:03:50.039 --> 01:03:52.760
applet in my group, her and
a couple other ladies found it in the

862
01:03:52.800 --> 01:03:58.400
picture. The silhouette of it sat
next to a tree and it wasn't like

863
01:03:58.440 --> 01:04:01.519
I said, it wasn't a full
grown when it was a juvenile. But

864
01:04:01.639 --> 01:04:05.920
that was so exciting for me for
my daughter to actually see one for just

865
01:04:05.960 --> 01:04:11.360
a second. And since you've seen
that, all she talks about is when

866
01:04:11.400 --> 01:04:13.880
can I go big footing with you? When can I go into woods?

867
01:04:13.920 --> 01:04:16.800
And I said, I want to
take you out there at nine years old.

868
01:04:16.920 --> 01:04:20.519
She goes to go out there if
you will, and she knows how

869
01:04:20.599 --> 01:04:25.320
crazy I am. My lots of
hope to come back, but I wouldn't

870
01:04:25.320 --> 01:04:29.519
want to take her out there.
Darryl, you have seen you've seen a

871
01:04:29.599 --> 01:04:33.039
dog man as well, correct,
I've seen. My first dog man I

872
01:04:33.159 --> 01:04:40.119
seen was actually in October of twenty
one in Caswell County, Virginia, and

873
01:04:40.159 --> 01:04:45.599
that was just a crazy just so
that was that I go to this is

874
01:04:45.960 --> 01:04:50.519
where I live at is it's mainly
a farming area. There's lots of cotton

875
01:04:50.679 --> 01:04:58.400
and peanut farmers here and I live
about an hour and fifteen minutes from where

876
01:04:58.480 --> 01:05:02.800
my children and I go to this
little store in the morning and it's like

877
01:05:02.840 --> 01:05:06.000
a country stower, and I was
going there's a bunch of older guys in

878
01:05:06.039 --> 01:05:09.559
there, I see, and I'll
sit and drink some coffee with them in

879
01:05:09.559 --> 01:05:14.280
the morning. And I was sitting
there one morning and this guy comes in.

880
01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:17.400
The guy owns the store. As
an Indian guy, it's hard to

881
01:05:17.480 --> 01:05:21.639
understand him all the time. And
I'm sure it's hard for him to understand

882
01:05:21.639 --> 01:05:26.519
me with my country accident, but
he knows me and his real friend.

883
01:05:26.559 --> 01:05:30.880
He real nice guy. And I'm
sitting there at this table, it's along

884
01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:34.199
wood table. There's usually five or
six old farmers sitting there, just talking

885
01:05:34.239 --> 01:05:39.599
about whatever. And we drink coffee
in there. And I'm sitting there one

886
01:05:39.639 --> 01:05:44.000
morning and we're all talking and they
know I talk about big footing, and

887
01:05:44.119 --> 01:05:46.280
some of them I've seen them.
They believe in them. A couple of

888
01:05:46.400 --> 01:05:48.960
a couple of them don't believe in
them. It's not an argument, just

889
01:05:49.039 --> 01:05:53.719
conversation. We don't talk about it
all the time. But this man and

890
01:05:53.760 --> 01:05:57.840
his son comes in and they walk
up to the counter and they had gotten

891
01:05:57.960 --> 01:06:01.800
gas out front, and he asked
the guy who owns the stole the Indian

892
01:06:01.880 --> 01:06:06.559
guy. He goes do you know
anybody around here that knows anything about creatures?

893
01:06:08.159 --> 01:06:12.239
And of course I'm only keen foot
from the counter. When I heard

894
01:06:12.280 --> 01:06:15.639
creatures, I turned around, thinking, what is he talking about? And

895
01:06:16.239 --> 01:06:23.000
this guy don't understand what he's asking
him. He said, he said,

896
01:06:23.079 --> 01:06:27.599
we got a creature on our farm. And I looked up again and I

897
01:06:27.679 --> 01:06:30.760
got up and I walked up to
him and the gentleman who owns the store

898
01:06:30.840 --> 01:06:34.480
there, real nice guy. I
started talking to the guy. I said,

899
01:06:34.480 --> 01:06:38.679
what kind of creature are you talking
about? And he said, we

900
01:06:38.760 --> 01:06:45.280
live about two hours from here and
maybe a little mower, and we got

901
01:06:45.320 --> 01:06:48.320
something on our farm. Ha's killed
our goats and we don't know what it

902
01:06:48.360 --> 01:06:55.000
is. And we call the game
and Fish and the sheriff's partment, and

903
01:06:55.039 --> 01:06:58.880
they came out here and told us
that it was probably some chyldies or something

904
01:06:58.960 --> 01:07:01.800
that killed them. He said,
but this ain't no coyote. And I

905
01:07:01.840 --> 01:07:04.800
said, have you singing the creature? And he said no, but I've

906
01:07:04.840 --> 01:07:10.440
heard it and he told me some
sounds that it made, and I said,

907
01:07:11.559 --> 01:07:14.239
I don't know. I said,
I don't believe it's a coyote,

908
01:07:14.280 --> 01:07:16.679
And he said, you know anything
about these things? I said, I

909
01:07:16.719 --> 01:07:19.440
don't know what kind of creature you
have. I said, I know a

910
01:07:19.440 --> 01:07:24.920
little bit about some creatures. I
said I would probably know if I seen

911
01:07:25.000 --> 01:07:29.559
a track what it was. And
he said, do you mind coming out

912
01:07:29.840 --> 01:07:33.559
to our house and looking around the
barn there He had a little shad that

913
01:07:34.159 --> 01:07:39.760
they kept their goats in. And
I said, boy, yeah, where

914
01:07:39.800 --> 01:07:43.800
do you live? And he said
for two hours from here? And he

915
01:07:43.920 --> 01:07:45.840
said, if you want to,
you can follow me on out there.

916
01:07:46.400 --> 01:07:51.519
And I said okay, And I
got a call on the way out there,

917
01:07:51.559 --> 01:07:54.800
so I told him. I pulled
him over and I said, give

918
01:07:54.840 --> 01:07:59.840
me your address and I'll come out
next day. My kids said called.

919
01:08:00.039 --> 01:08:02.239
I had to go get to them, and so the next day I had

920
01:08:02.280 --> 01:08:06.000
his phone number, his cell number, and his address, and I had

921
01:08:06.039 --> 01:08:11.679
no idea where Taswell County for Taswell, Virginia was. There was actually about

922
01:08:12.239 --> 01:08:15.439
three and a half hours away,
But so I went out there the next

923
01:08:15.520 --> 01:08:20.840
day and I couldn't find you and
lost I lost my reception in my GPS,

924
01:08:21.359 --> 01:08:25.479
and I called the guy up.
I went back away before I got

925
01:08:25.520 --> 01:08:29.840
reception. I said, can you
meet me somewhere and show me how to

926
01:08:29.880 --> 01:08:31.600
get to where you're at And he
said, sure, I'll meet you this

927
01:08:31.880 --> 01:08:38.159
old store. I think it was
Highway sixty eight. I believe it was,

928
01:08:38.199 --> 01:08:41.680
I don't remember exact. So I
went what I thought about. I

929
01:08:41.720 --> 01:08:44.600
found an old store that was closed, and I sat there for a few

930
01:08:44.640 --> 01:08:48.000
minutes and he pulled up and Saint
Vicker, who's in before and he wrote

931
01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:50.880
the windy down, said just following. And I followed him a good ways

932
01:08:51.000 --> 01:08:57.279
back down the road and we went
off and they were living really in the

933
01:08:57.359 --> 01:09:00.479
rural country, and you had to
go down off the road through a creek.

934
01:09:00.840 --> 01:09:03.439
He drove through a creek. It
wasn't very deep, and then he

935
01:09:03.520 --> 01:09:06.199
went up over the creek and he
turned and left and went back to the

936
01:09:06.239 --> 01:09:10.960
farm house they lived in, and
he said, I live here with my

937
01:09:11.520 --> 01:09:15.439
excuse me, my great aunt.
I live here with my great aunt me

938
01:09:15.479 --> 01:09:19.000
and my wife. And I believe
you had a daughter or two and a

939
01:09:19.079 --> 01:09:23.159
son, but they were little,
they were seven or eight years old.

940
01:09:23.239 --> 01:09:27.279
And he said, I'll show you
where the goat house it is. That

941
01:09:27.359 --> 01:09:30.960
he cart of the goat house.
It was like a little shed, and

942
01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:35.239
I parked my vehicle and went back
through the gate there with him and walked

943
01:09:35.279 --> 01:09:39.279
up next to the goat house and
I said, where're the goats? He

944
01:09:39.319 --> 01:09:43.319
said, this creature has killed them
all And I said where are they and

945
01:09:43.359 --> 01:09:46.319
he said, I've already drug them
off. And I had never seen the

946
01:09:46.319 --> 01:09:49.880
ghosts, but he said they were
torn up pretty good. But I got

947
01:09:49.880 --> 01:09:54.600
to looking around the goat house and
it was real money around one side there,

948
01:09:54.640 --> 01:09:57.680
and I knew exactly what it was. And I seen the track.

949
01:09:57.720 --> 01:10:00.960
I knew it wasn't a big for
it. There was there was a dog

950
01:10:00.039 --> 01:10:04.640
man track and a canine top track, and it was way too long to

951
01:10:04.680 --> 01:10:10.760
be a coyote or a wolf.
And I said how long has this been

952
01:10:10.800 --> 01:10:15.079
going on? He said, I'll
last year. He said first he started

953
01:10:15.159 --> 01:10:19.760
yelling at night and the goats would
go crazy and the dogs would and then

954
01:10:19.840 --> 01:10:24.479
one morning we came out and one
of the goats was dead and we moved

955
01:10:24.479 --> 01:10:28.560
the other two, and then it
come back and kill those. And I

956
01:10:28.600 --> 01:10:30.039
said, well, where do you
think it's coming in at? And he

957
01:10:30.119 --> 01:10:34.560
pointed up to a field and it
was a huge field that was fence standing,

958
01:10:34.640 --> 01:10:40.560
barb wire fence stand or the goats
said roamed up there, and he

959
01:10:40.600 --> 01:10:45.279
said, it's coming in from up
there somewhere. I don't know exactly where,

960
01:10:45.359 --> 01:10:47.079
he said, but if you go
around that feet, there's a gate

961
01:10:47.239 --> 01:10:50.159
that goes through to the top of
a heel, and you can park upon

962
01:10:50.239 --> 01:10:56.279
that heel and overlook that field and
you can probably see what's coming in there.

963
01:10:56.359 --> 01:10:58.600
And I said, okay, I
said, do you want me to

964
01:10:59.199 --> 01:11:00.600
come up here and do that?
And he said, yeah, I'd like

965
01:11:00.720 --> 01:11:04.039
for you too, because scared for
my family. I don't know what it

966
01:11:04.079 --> 01:11:09.399
is. And I said, okay. So I spent a lot of time

967
01:11:09.479 --> 01:11:13.760
over there. I was over there
probably two and a half weeks. Early

968
01:11:13.800 --> 01:11:17.359
in the morning a couple of times, and then I'd stay till dark in

969
01:11:17.399 --> 01:11:20.239
the evening. I parked my truck
up on the top of that little hill

970
01:11:20.359 --> 01:11:24.479
there. I could see the field. I didn't see anything. I was

971
01:11:24.520 --> 01:11:28.119
getting to the point where I just
about giving up on it, thinking whatever

972
01:11:28.159 --> 01:11:31.800
it was gone because the goats were
and what I said, I was about

973
01:11:31.800 --> 01:11:35.520
giving up. And I was sitting
on a heel and I was just looking

974
01:11:35.560 --> 01:11:42.840
across that field. It was probably
three four hundred yards wide, and it

975
01:11:42.920 --> 01:11:45.920
was a huge field. And he
said, and he had told me he

976
01:11:45.960 --> 01:11:48.680
thought it was coming up in the
very back part of it, because there

977
01:11:48.720 --> 01:11:54.720
was woods behind that. And I
was sitting there one evening and there was

978
01:11:54.840 --> 01:11:59.279
lot enough to see, but it
was getting later in the evening, and

979
01:11:59.319 --> 01:12:03.920
this was in the all so it
was like close to six o'clock and I

980
01:12:04.079 --> 01:12:08.039
seen something in the corner of the
field up there that caught my eye.

981
01:12:08.119 --> 01:12:11.279
I had a pair of binoculars that
I had with me, and I looked

982
01:12:11.319 --> 01:12:15.720
through the binoculars and it was dark, but I could see the figure moving,

983
01:12:15.800 --> 01:12:18.239
but I couldn't tell what it was. And then I've seen it come

984
01:12:18.279 --> 01:12:23.800
across the fence and it was running
across the and it's a long, wide

985
01:12:23.920 --> 01:12:27.880
field. I could see it running
across the field, but there was sage

986
01:12:27.960 --> 01:12:30.039
grass and the field in spots,
and I would lose it when it went

987
01:12:30.039 --> 01:12:32.640
into the sage grass, and then
it would come out again and then go

988
01:12:32.680 --> 01:12:38.720
into some more sage grass. But
this thing ran so strange. It didn't

989
01:12:38.800 --> 01:12:43.239
run like a dog or something that
galloped like a horse. And it ran

990
01:12:43.359 --> 01:12:46.840
all the way across the field,
and it slowed down and right up above

991
01:12:46.880 --> 01:12:50.439
where my truck was, that was
the fence line down below me. That

992
01:12:50.680 --> 01:12:54.880
ran up met the corner of the
other fence, and there was woods to

993
01:12:54.960 --> 01:12:57.760
the right of and I've seen it
run all the way to that fence.

994
01:12:58.359 --> 01:13:02.000
It stopped, stood up on two
legs. That's when I really went wild,

995
01:13:02.640 --> 01:13:06.119
and I've seen it really well.
I couldn't see the I couldn't see

996
01:13:06.159 --> 01:13:11.199
its feet, but I could see
the band and its legs as it stood

997
01:13:11.279 --> 01:13:15.039
up. And then it just stepped
over the fence. It looked right at

998
01:13:15.079 --> 01:13:18.520
me, not right at me,
the right in my direction. It didn't

999
01:13:18.520 --> 01:13:21.880
see me, but it looked in
my direction. And then it stepped over

1000
01:13:21.960 --> 01:13:26.880
the fence and wood into the woods. And that was the first dog man

1001
01:13:26.920 --> 01:13:30.079
I've ever seen, and it was
it looked like a German shepherd in the

1002
01:13:30.119 --> 01:13:36.039
face. It was solid black,
looked almost identical to a German shepherd who

1003
01:13:36.239 --> 01:13:41.760
except it was a walking big dog. And this wasn't eight foot till it

1004
01:13:41.840 --> 01:13:45.359
was probably six foot till I actually
went down there. I went back the

1005
01:13:45.399 --> 01:13:49.079
next day and spent the whole day
there. I carried my gun and I

1006
01:13:49.119 --> 01:13:55.840
went back in there try to track
it. And I went right where across

1007
01:13:55.880 --> 01:14:00.640
the fence and basing where it was
standing next to a white spot on a

1008
01:14:00.720 --> 01:14:05.520
tree. Was about six foot two
inches from the ground to there, and

1009
01:14:05.640 --> 01:14:10.159
that could have varied a little bit
because it was the slope there. But

1010
01:14:11.199 --> 01:14:15.720
I crossed the fence and walked on
down in there, and it went around

1011
01:14:15.760 --> 01:14:19.039
through a bluff. There was a
bluff back in there, side of a

1012
01:14:19.079 --> 01:14:26.800
small mountain, and there was tracks. I could see tracks. The ground

1013
01:14:26.880 --> 01:14:30.119
was real moist in there, and
I couldn't see tracks like I could next

1014
01:14:30.199 --> 01:14:32.720
the goat house, but I could
see for something that had been going back

1015
01:14:32.760 --> 01:14:38.800
in there regularly, and a lot
of bones back there looked like deer bones

1016
01:14:38.840 --> 01:14:42.960
and other top bones. And then
I followed on around the side of this

1017
01:14:43.079 --> 01:14:46.920
bluff and it was I got a
little eerie back there by myself, because

1018
01:14:47.239 --> 01:14:51.279
I don't know how many of these
things were back there. But I found

1019
01:14:51.279 --> 01:14:57.039
the bluff and it was a little
indention up under this bluff or something that

1020
01:14:57.279 --> 01:15:00.359
dug out, and you could see
tracks going up like there was a cave

1021
01:15:00.479 --> 01:15:03.760
or something up under his are.
And I didn't go any further than that

1022
01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:10.439
because I didn't want to take a
chance of this thing attacking me. We'll

1023
01:15:10.439 --> 01:15:18.079
be back with more big Foot Society
after these words from our sponsors, So

1024
01:15:18.239 --> 01:15:23.359
I just mainly looked around there and
seeing a lot of evidence that's where it

1025
01:15:23.439 --> 01:15:27.720
was going. So I came back
out and it was getting close to dark,

1026
01:15:28.439 --> 01:15:32.239
and I went on back home.
And then the following weekend, I

1027
01:15:32.279 --> 01:15:35.560
got all my gear and I was
going to go back in there and stay

1028
01:15:35.600 --> 01:15:40.880
the whole day and try to film
it. And I was coming across the

1029
01:15:40.920 --> 01:15:46.399
creek going into his place and coming
out of his property was a game warden,

1030
01:15:46.760 --> 01:15:53.039
a Virginia Wildlife Resources agency. God, he met me at a creek

1031
01:15:53.039 --> 01:15:57.079
because I'm coming in, he's coming
out and he rolls his window down and

1032
01:15:57.119 --> 01:16:00.479
sticks his hand out and I wrote
my window down. He said, what

1033
01:16:00.520 --> 01:16:03.399
are you doing up here? I
said, this gentleman over here told me

1034
01:16:03.439 --> 01:16:06.359
I could come up here and scout
out. And he said what are you

1035
01:16:06.399 --> 01:16:12.039
scouting for? And I said,
just looking around for different game or I

1036
01:16:12.039 --> 01:16:14.399
didn't want to tell him what I
was looking for. He probably thought it

1037
01:16:14.479 --> 01:16:16.760
was I didn't know what he would
have thought, but anyway, he said,

1038
01:16:16.840 --> 01:16:19.800
you got license here, and I
said, yeah, I've got Virginia

1039
01:16:19.880 --> 01:16:25.079
license. And he said, what
you got weapons? And I told him

1040
01:16:25.119 --> 01:16:29.319
I did and he said there was
not any deer in season. I said,

1041
01:16:29.359 --> 01:16:32.680
I'm not looking to kill anything.
I'm just looking around. And he

1042
01:16:32.800 --> 01:16:38.680
was real questionable, and he said, do you have permission to be here?

1043
01:16:38.720 --> 01:16:40.359
And I said, yes, sir, I told you I did.

1044
01:16:40.479 --> 01:16:43.319
And he said, you got a
note or a letter stating that. I

1045
01:16:43.359 --> 01:16:46.359
said, no, I don't.
He said, let's go up to these

1046
01:16:46.399 --> 01:16:50.039
people's house then, and I followed
him up there in his truck and they

1047
01:16:50.119 --> 01:16:54.479
came out. The guy did and
he said, yeah, I've gave him

1048
01:16:54.479 --> 01:16:58.399
permission to be here. He's been
coming here for a little over a month.

1049
01:16:59.239 --> 01:17:01.359
And I told him he could go
up on the heel there and just

1050
01:17:01.439 --> 01:17:08.880
sit and watch for he said game, and he was good with that.

1051
01:17:09.079 --> 01:17:12.479
He realized that I told him the
truth. So he got this truck and

1052
01:17:13.520 --> 01:17:15.520
I was going to go apart and
go back in there, and he stopped

1053
01:17:15.560 --> 01:17:17.319
me and he said, let me
tell you something. He said, I

1054
01:17:17.359 --> 01:17:21.560
don't know what you're doing back here, but we've had a lot of farmers

1055
01:17:21.600 --> 01:17:27.239
in the area complaining about their livestop
being killed by some type of animal.

1056
01:17:28.159 --> 01:17:30.720
He said, i'd suggest you not
go back in there. And I said

1057
01:17:31.000 --> 01:17:34.840
what kind of animal is it?
And he wouldn't tell me. They wouldn't

1058
01:17:34.880 --> 01:17:40.000
say, and he said, I
just suggest you not go back in there,

1059
01:17:40.479 --> 01:17:45.199
and he's trying to tell me I
needed to leave, and I went

1060
01:17:45.319 --> 01:17:48.479
up there. I went up there
several times after that, probably six or

1061
01:17:48.520 --> 01:17:53.399
seven more times, and I never
seen it again. So I don't know

1062
01:17:53.439 --> 01:17:58.399
if they killed it or it moved
on, or what happened to it.

1063
01:17:59.119 --> 01:18:03.039
That actual homeowner and I think he's
an has passed a white. He's saying

1064
01:18:03.039 --> 01:18:05.920
it so that they may have moved. I don't know. He was talking

1065
01:18:05.920 --> 01:18:12.960
about moving because he didn't feel safe
with his children being there and he hadn't

1066
01:18:13.079 --> 01:18:17.119
heard of it or saying of it
since it may have killed out his livestock

1067
01:18:17.199 --> 01:18:23.279
and moved on somewhere else, or
maybe the game officials took it out.

1068
01:18:23.359 --> 01:18:26.920
I don't know. But that was
the first one I'd ever seen, and

1069
01:18:26.960 --> 01:18:30.239
it was nothing like the second one
that I was seen with Martin Groves.

1070
01:18:30.359 --> 01:18:32.680
It was more of a flesh and
blood creature. This was. There wasn't

1071
01:18:33.319 --> 01:18:40.720
anything that was cartaneous, smoking or
anything. So it's it's wild. Darrel,

1072
01:18:40.840 --> 01:18:46.319
oh Man, you've got the wildest
you've you've had, the wildest encounters

1073
01:18:46.840 --> 01:18:51.079
happened to you. It's just in
stuff I didn't know about the Virginia stuff.

1074
01:18:51.119 --> 01:18:58.560
Man, that's crazy. Man.
Oh, it's been going off of

1075
01:18:58.920 --> 01:19:01.800
or thinking of the time you've seen
dog men versus the thing, the times

1076
01:19:01.800 --> 01:19:09.119
you've seen bigfoot. Which one do
you think is which one was more of

1077
01:19:09.359 --> 01:19:13.640
a terrifying experience to you? Would
you say, I don't think anything will

1078
01:19:13.640 --> 01:19:17.600
ever top my first encounter or big
foot? What Martin grows and I say,

1079
01:19:17.800 --> 01:19:24.079
was pretty terrifying, but not like
my first encounter. I think anytime

1080
01:19:24.119 --> 01:19:29.640
you realize there's something like that,
especially thinking no way possible there's a big

1081
01:19:29.680 --> 01:19:32.439
foot in this area. I would
even sure they existed when I had my

1082
01:19:32.520 --> 01:19:36.760
first encounter, because I've never seen
one, but I believe they probably did.

1083
01:19:38.000 --> 01:19:44.359
I've always been open minded and heard
stories some people and took it as

1084
01:19:44.439 --> 01:19:47.760
a credible story because I don't know
what they've seen. Maybe they didn't.

1085
01:19:48.119 --> 01:19:51.479
I'm still that way. I'm at
the point in my life now I've had

1086
01:19:51.520 --> 01:19:56.880
so many encounters since then. Is
somebody call them tell me there was a

1087
01:19:57.000 --> 01:20:00.880
terror doctor flying around New York City, I would probably say, what street

1088
01:20:00.960 --> 01:20:04.079
is it on? I would probably
believe it. I don't know what all's

1089
01:20:04.159 --> 01:20:08.560
out there. I know there's a
lot of things I haven't seen because I've

1090
01:20:08.560 --> 01:20:13.520
got close friends and seen stuff I
haven't seen. I've got a friend that's

1091
01:20:13.560 --> 01:20:17.239
seen a retinin a tear doctor flying
over Kentucky. I've heard a lot of

1092
01:20:17.359 --> 01:20:23.319
stories and I don't think these people
are just making this up. Why would

1093
01:20:23.359 --> 01:20:28.720
you make something like that, It's
pretty I think the thing that bothers me

1094
01:20:28.920 --> 01:20:34.439
so much is how critical some people
can be toward other people's terror. These

1095
01:20:34.479 --> 01:20:39.439
people scared to death or what they
think, and somebody wants to laugh about

1096
01:20:39.479 --> 01:20:43.039
it and make a joke about it, and they really have to live that

1097
01:20:43.279 --> 01:20:46.560
to understand it. I'm a true
believer. It's a saying I've been saying

1098
01:20:46.600 --> 01:20:50.520
for thirty years. You don't find
any of these creatures, they find you.

1099
01:20:50.560 --> 01:20:55.079
And that's a true story. Just
don't go out in the woods banging

1100
01:20:55.199 --> 01:21:00.479
on trees and shining lights and doing
whoops and yales and have a big come

1101
01:21:00.720 --> 01:21:04.159
visits. You have to live in
their environment and respect them. And I

1102
01:21:04.159 --> 01:21:11.520
have Indian and me and my grandmother
was Indian and American Indian, and she

1103
01:21:11.680 --> 01:21:15.359
told me a lot of tales about
things that exist, and I'm sure they

1104
01:21:15.399 --> 01:21:20.319
probably do. I've never seen some
of them, but encounters for me I

1105
01:21:20.479 --> 01:21:27.159
wonder myself for so many years why
I see all these things. And I

1106
01:21:27.199 --> 01:21:30.720
do know some other people that have
things like I have, and they see

1107
01:21:30.720 --> 01:21:32.680
them. I know other people don't
see anything, and they go into the

1108
01:21:32.720 --> 01:21:39.560
woods all their life. So it's
hard to understand how some people do and

1109
01:21:39.600 --> 01:21:45.479
some people don't. So I've learned
a lot from friends and especially the Native

1110
01:21:45.520 --> 01:21:51.840
Americans. They believe that these creatures
feel the person inside their spirit. And

1111
01:21:51.920 --> 01:21:58.760
I believe that because I feel like
I have a good heart and I'm honest

1112
01:21:58.800 --> 01:22:02.399
and easy going, and I think
the creatures, I know, the bigfoot,

1113
01:22:02.520 --> 01:22:06.279
there's no doubt they can read what
you're thinking and they know what your

1114
01:22:06.279 --> 01:22:10.960
intentions are. You go running around
in the woods with a gun and the

1115
01:22:11.079 --> 01:22:15.720
camera, and your chances of seeing
one are pretty slam because these creatures know

1116
01:22:15.760 --> 01:22:21.199
what a gun is and they I'm
sure that they probably have stories themselves or

1117
01:22:21.239 --> 01:22:27.399
their family or members of their family
being shot by human beings or shot at

1118
01:22:28.399 --> 01:22:32.159
or keel. Possibly. I think
they're I don't think. I do think

1119
01:22:32.199 --> 01:22:38.119
they're a bad Bigfoot. I've had
bad experiences, and I think they're like

1120
01:22:38.239 --> 01:22:42.279
people. There's good and bad and
everything, and I've been very fortunate that

1121
01:22:42.319 --> 01:22:45.399
I've run into more good ones than
bad ones. But I've been pretty scared

1122
01:22:45.399 --> 01:22:50.399
a few times with these things.
But the two guys I go in with

1123
01:22:50.479 --> 01:22:55.199
all the time, and then three
guys, including Ron Moore, those guys

1124
01:22:55.199 --> 01:22:58.960
aren't scared of anything. Martin Grows
are going in the middle of the night,

1125
01:23:00.039 --> 01:23:03.439
aren't nonely to do it, and
Ron is not fearful either. You

1126
01:23:03.520 --> 01:23:08.399
don't want to go into the woods
being fearful. If you have fear,

1127
01:23:09.000 --> 01:23:12.279
I know for a fact Bigfoot will
play off of it because they want to

1128
01:23:12.279 --> 01:23:15.279
scare you. They will throw sticks
and rocks at you the ground, or

1129
01:23:15.399 --> 01:23:19.439
bluff charge you. They they'll do
things they're not harmed you to get you

1130
01:23:19.479 --> 01:23:23.119
out of their area. They don't
want you in there. It takes a

1131
01:23:23.119 --> 01:23:28.640
long time to gain trust from these
creatures, and a lot of work and

1132
01:23:28.680 --> 01:23:35.319
a lot of hours to gain trust. And I know that from my experiences

1133
01:23:35.399 --> 01:23:40.760
with some of them and a family
of one of them. I've had some

1134
01:23:40.920 --> 01:23:44.920
terrible encounters. It's amazing all the
stuff I've had. I don't even know

1135
01:23:44.960 --> 01:23:48.840
how it happens, but it does. It feels like you should, Daryl,

1136
01:23:48.880 --> 01:23:54.680
you should really have your own book. Have you considered just I'm gonna

1137
01:23:55.600 --> 01:23:59.920
put it all down in the book
mark grows. And I've talked about that

1138
01:24:00.119 --> 01:24:03.560
a thousand times. Martin and I've
talked about it. Even told Ryan every

1139
01:24:03.600 --> 01:24:08.000
time I start writing a book,
I'm one of those types of people that

1140
01:24:08.520 --> 01:24:12.479
is a perfectionist. I feel like
I've left something out or I feel like

1141
01:24:12.520 --> 01:24:15.680
I didn't put everything in there,
and I'll tear it up and start over.

1142
01:24:16.520 --> 01:24:23.039
Oh man, man, it takes
me. I have started on one,

1143
01:24:23.119 --> 01:24:27.079
but it's a slow process for me, and I can never write down

1144
01:24:27.119 --> 01:24:30.600
all my encounters and things I've seen
in one book, so it would be

1145
01:24:30.640 --> 01:24:33.840
a thick book. So I would
probably have to write a couple of books.

1146
01:24:33.920 --> 01:24:39.399
But maintain is finding the time to
do it, because you know,

1147
01:24:39.399 --> 01:24:42.880
I sad weeks or two or three
weeks out of the month, and then

1148
01:24:42.880 --> 01:24:46.800
I go home for ken or fourteen
days to be with my mom and dad

1149
01:24:46.840 --> 01:24:53.119
and my farm and Martin and Barton
and hang out with him and go with

1150
01:24:53.199 --> 01:24:58.479
him for some time and visit my
oldest daughter, my grandson. So a

1151
01:24:58.840 --> 01:25:02.800
timeframe and plus trying to work on
top of all that. Oh sure,

1152
01:25:03.479 --> 01:25:08.560
it's seemed like there was not enough
hours in the day to get that accomplished,

1153
01:25:08.600 --> 01:25:12.760
but I didn't plan on doing one. Eventually, I would, I

1154
01:25:12.760 --> 01:25:15.960
would jump in there with the other
guys and say, hey, it might

1155
01:25:15.000 --> 01:25:20.079
be a good idea to try to
get that all down for future people to

1156
01:25:20.199 --> 01:25:26.640
learn from. But Darryl, this
has been just a really fun chat and

1157
01:25:26.920 --> 01:25:30.359
I feel like I could talk with
you for hours and hours, but I

1158
01:25:30.399 --> 01:25:33.239
want to be respectful of your time. So I want to say thank you

1159
01:25:33.319 --> 01:25:40.399
so much for coming on this show
today. And what are do you mind

1160
01:25:40.399 --> 01:25:45.079
sharing? What are some ways if
there's any ways that people can keep up

1161
01:25:45.079 --> 01:25:48.640
to date with what you're doing or
contact you or anything like that. Pretty

1162
01:25:48.720 --> 01:25:55.840
much just most of the advance that
I really just besides the podcast that I'm

1163
01:25:55.880 --> 01:26:00.000
honored to be on, I get
asked often, and besides telling my stories

1164
01:26:00.039 --> 01:26:04.359
on these You got a great show, and I appreciate you being in my

1165
01:26:04.439 --> 01:26:11.920
group. But I also usually post
what we're seeing or something. A lot

1166
01:26:11.920 --> 01:26:14.760
of times I don't a lot of
times I don't get into detail one some

1167
01:26:14.880 --> 01:26:18.000
things we see, but I'll put
you in the group regularly me or Martin

1168
01:26:18.079 --> 01:26:23.239
and Martin do and and Ron was
with us this last three up. I

1169
01:26:23.239 --> 01:26:26.439
put a bunch of stuff in there
while we were there. We were there

1170
01:26:26.560 --> 01:26:30.920
last week, we were we stayed
Martin, I stayed there four days and

1171
01:26:30.960 --> 01:26:35.279
they were up there with us for
three four three nights. But I would

1172
01:26:35.359 --> 01:26:41.520
probably just big Foot believers and other
creatures is the name of my group.

1173
01:26:41.680 --> 01:26:45.880
And we have a really good,
really good bunch of people there. We

1174
01:26:45.920 --> 01:26:48.199
don't allow any criticism. And I
know a lot of people say that's not

1175
01:26:48.279 --> 01:26:50.720
a good group then, but we're
just all allow it. If you don't

1176
01:26:50.720 --> 01:26:54.680
come in there and bas somebody,
you won't be there very long. I

1177
01:26:54.720 --> 01:26:59.359
would appreciate anybody of want Joe.
We have a great ad man, carter

1178
01:26:59.439 --> 01:27:01.840
By Shaw, and they've got some
many ad man's Ron moorehead as I had

1179
01:27:01.920 --> 01:27:08.199
man, Martin Grows, Martin Andley, Rinda k. Pucket, my close

1180
01:27:08.279 --> 01:27:15.039
friend Jennifer Appleton, Robin Haynes,
Rebecca cart Uh, Snuffy Dyer. We

1181
01:27:15.119 --> 01:27:18.159
have a Kenny Busy Busby. Oh
my gosh. They have a credible and

1182
01:27:18.319 --> 01:27:21.640
store of that Bigfoot that they're friends
with for quite a few years. They

1183
01:27:21.680 --> 01:27:25.960
go out and sit with them.
But I got to talk to them.

1184
01:27:26.560 --> 01:27:30.199
Wow. We have a lot of
people. All my ad men have had

1185
01:27:30.239 --> 01:27:32.359
a lot of experience, and most
of them I've known a long time.

1186
01:27:32.479 --> 01:27:35.359
Some of them, like Martin grows
not as long as they am, but

1187
01:27:35.439 --> 01:27:40.840
close. But we try to treat
everybody good and we learn a lot in

1188
01:27:40.880 --> 01:27:43.920
our group. We have a lot
of people that have joined that don't know

1189
01:27:44.039 --> 01:27:47.800
anything about it with they're open minded. And I just want to thank you

1190
01:27:47.880 --> 01:27:51.880
for letting me come on. And
I'm honored to be here, and I

1191
01:27:51.880 --> 01:27:58.039
appreciate you posting in our group all
the time and big we're fan of yours.

1192
01:27:58.079 --> 01:28:01.239
Me and Martin both tell me to
not he said that guy's a good

1193
01:28:01.279 --> 01:28:04.920
guy. I I didn't tell anybody
in the Grape I was going to be

1194
01:28:05.000 --> 01:28:11.439
on a short on time. But
I appreciate you have me on and come

1195
01:28:11.479 --> 01:28:14.800
down to help sometime. I'll let
you know, man, I mean it's

1196
01:28:14.880 --> 01:28:16.439
on the list to go down there. I would love to take you up

1197
01:28:16.439 --> 01:28:21.399
on that. And listeners, if
you want to read more about what Darryl

1198
01:28:21.520 --> 01:28:27.359
has experienced over the years, you
can get The big Foot Phenomenon by Josh

1199
01:28:27.399 --> 01:28:32.279
Turner, and then it's also in
Martin Grove's second book as well, and

1200
01:28:32.319 --> 01:28:36.079
in the future it'll be in Darryl's
book too. When he gets that out.

1201
01:28:36.439 --> 01:28:40.079
Yeah, one of these days I'll
get it. Anyway, there's so

1202
01:28:40.159 --> 01:28:43.760
many good books to read, as
I've got them behind Martin and Lee's,

1203
01:28:43.840 --> 01:28:48.600
Martin Groves, Josh Turner's. There's
a lot of good books out there that

1204
01:28:48.720 --> 01:28:55.439
people can read, but counters are
something that I live through, and that's

1205
01:28:55.439 --> 01:28:59.520
why I guess I'm a little more
skied to go and make sure I've got

1206
01:28:59.560 --> 01:29:04.000
everything right in there, and eventually
I'll get it about anyway, I just

1207
01:29:04.039 --> 01:29:08.479
want to thank you for having me
on and appreciate it. Thank you,

1208
01:29:08.560 --> 01:29:12.159
Daryl, thank you so much for
coming on, and well we'll be in

1209
01:29:12.239 --> 01:29:15.359
touch all right. Thank you.
I appreciate it. I've good aidmen.

1210
01:29:15.760 --> 01:29:19.199
You're at Bigfoot Society. Our goal
is to provide a platform for those that

1211
01:29:19.279 --> 01:29:26.279
have encountered Bigfoot to share their encounter
in a safe and respected environment. But

1212
01:29:26.359 --> 01:29:30.760
we need to hear your story.
If you've experienced something that you just can't

1213
01:29:30.840 --> 01:29:36.319
explain, please send me an email
at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

1214
01:29:36.920 --> 01:29:41.880
Then we can start the conversation.
And I know a lot of you have

1215
01:29:41.960 --> 01:29:47.000
not shared your encounter at all.
It's been twenty years and it's time that

1216
01:29:47.039 --> 01:29:50.840
you get this off your chest,
and then you can get some well deserved

1217
01:29:50.840 --> 01:29:56.079
for rest, because I know you
haven't been sleeping. I understand what you're

1218
01:29:56.119 --> 01:29:59.039
going through, and I appreciate every
one of you listening