Sept. 26, 2023

Horrifying Hairy Man Encounters of Alaska with Fred Roehl

Fred Roehl is a First Nation's Alaskan native and Curyung Tribal Counsel member from Dillingham, Alaska.

In this episode, Fred shares what he has experienced in the wilds of Alaska and some of what has been shared with him along the way.

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Fred Roehl is a First Nation's Alaskan native and Curyung Tribal Counsel member from Dillingham, Alaska.

In this episode, Fred shares what he has experienced in the wilds of Alaska and some of what has been shared with him along the way.

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in the show notes in Bigfoot Society. I've taken far too much of your

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time so far, so let's get
on with the show. All right,

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Big Society, You've got the privilege
of talking to mister Fred Roll tonight.

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If Fred, this is a going
to be a fun interview. I've never

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had an individual be requested so many
times for me to get them on the

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podcast, literally probably three to four
times a day. In the comments,

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I get someone saying, you need
to have Fred from Alaska. You need

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to have Fred from Subarctic Alaska Sasquatch
Channel, come on and talk about Alaska,

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Harry Man. So I'm just so
happy to finally get you on,

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Fred. How are you doing tonight? I'm doing great. Thanks for having

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me, Oh fantastic, And just
to give there may be some listeners that

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you don't know about you yet,
but if you're not following and subscribe to

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Subarctic Alaska Sasquatch channel on YouTube,
you really need to make sure that you

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do right after this. It's pretty
cool because you're reporting, You're recording Alaska

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and hairy Man encounters, your first
Nations Alaska native and your tribal council member

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from Dillingham, Alaska, which is
just awesome that you have that connection.

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You can really be connected to the
stories that you are recording and reporting.

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So it's just it's it's awesome,
Fred, And remind me that the area

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that you are based out of is
it Dillingham, then I'm from there.

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I'm from Bristol Bay. I currently
live in Wasilla, Alaska. There's no

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job opportunities in Bristol Bay unless it's
seasonal because a lot of the good jobs

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there, whether it be hospital or
otherwise, are already taken. So it's

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just not a very financially viable place
to live. You around, gotcha.

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Yeah, And it's from what I've
gathered from other interviews, it's it can

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be a pretty hostile environment to live
in Alaska. But it is a beautiful

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environment, but it's also a very
it can be a very unforgiving. You

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don't get too many chances up there. Yeah, Like I tell people all

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the time, Alaska don't care.
It really don't. It's irrelevant what you're

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prepared for. You never know what
you're going to get up here. It's

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it's always different. M Absolutely,
you know. I'd be curious, Fred,

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what was it that that first brought
you into being so interested and involved

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with recording and reporting these encounters.
Do you remember a time in your life

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when you were first introduced to this
concept of the Alaskan hairyman? Oh,

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geez, I was a little kid
my auntie. When we were young,

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we always had fish camp, hunting
camp, and so on in the village.

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And when we were really young,
we were too young to participate in

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pulling and hauling nets and picking fish. So one of our aunties would watch

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us during those months. And you
know, like especially my aunt Lucy,

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she was one of the most boisterous
and outspoken people when it came to watching

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out for the hairyman. Because it
wasn't just mythological folklore. It was a

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fact of life, just no different
than beware of a moose at the end

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of the driveway. It may stop
you to death type of things. So

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she would always warn us about,
you know, don't follow strange whistles into

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the woods, don't go into the
woods alone, don't turn your back on

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the woods, don't be out after
dark. The harryman will get you,

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you know. And as a kid, hearing these things, you know over

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and over, you know, being
a little kid, I thought I was

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savvy, and I thought they were
just trying to keep us from having fun.

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And so in nineteen eighty three,
I remember it clearly. I snuck

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away from the group that was in
the front yard of my grandma's house.

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Her property was right at the end
of the runway next to the Dollingham Airport

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at the time, by Squaw Creek
site, And I snuck away from the

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group because I wanted to work on
my tree fort. And so I'm approximately

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about one hundred and twenty yards away
from my grandma's house on this little trail,

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and it was open, but about
seventy yards in front of me there

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was a big bunch of willows and
they're about ten twelve foot tall roughly,

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and I had my path I had
to take through those willows to get to

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where I was building my tree fort, and I was about seventy yards from

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it, and I was staring at
my feet at the time. I remember

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at Claire's Day, and something just
told me look up. And when I

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looked up, I saw this big
shadow in the willows. And I immediately

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my uncle Leo was like six two, so I thought it was him that

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person. I thought, I'll crap, I'm gonna be in trouble. And

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it wasn't my Uncle Leo. This
thing screamed at me, the most blood

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curdling, just scary thing I'd dealt
with at that time, and I turned

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around and ran back. Of course, I got in trouble for it and

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whatnot. And then a little bit
later that season, in the fall,

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we went up the Michigan River on
a thirty two foot cross and fishing boat,

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and we used that as our base
camp for moose hunting. At the

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end of fishing season. Because my
family was deeply involved in commercial salmon fishing,

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and so we would use that big
boat as our base camp. We

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would anchor out in the river and
use a small skip to go and get

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our moose and whatnot. And we
had this a frame built in the back

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of it on the stern sides where
we had a tarp over it and we

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could hang our moose meat and it
wouldn't get rained on and it could hang

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and all that kind of stuff.
Right, So we were on our way

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back from hunting camp basically, and
there was a handful of us younger cousins,

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a few older cousins that were in
their mid to late teens, and

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two of my uncles and my dad, and we got stuck on a gravel

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bar, just a black bluff by
Angel Bay, which is the tidal area

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of the Nisha Gack Gun in the
bay from the river, and it's right

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where the fresh water meets the ocean
water. And we were stuck. There

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was no way we're getting up until
the tide came in. And so one

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of my older cousins. After a
little while, the adults were stressing that

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they you know, they didn't want
the boat to tip over and then potentially

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you know, take on water when
the tide comes in. So they were

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working things out, you know,
how to stabilize the boat and all this

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so it didn't chip or whatever.
But one of my older cousins was like,

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let me get the younger kids out
of your hair. I'll take them

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sport fishing, you know, with
rotten reel in the skiff and you know,

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get them out of your hair basically. So we all got our fishing

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poles into the skiff and we're backing
away from the boat, and there was

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a lot of commotion because you got
the outboard running, you got the adults

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on the boat still talking, and
we us kids, we were just concerned

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about fishing, you know, we're
all excited or whatever, and there was

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this screaming going on, but we
weren't putting two and two together. And

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then we were hearing the splashing going
on, and my dad and my uncles

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were sitting there screaming, waving us
back. We came back to the stern

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of the boat and immediately they were
taking us kids off as quickly as possible.

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And when we all got on jack
and we were going into the basically

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the cabin of the boat where the
you know, the wheelhouse is, the

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screaming was really really loud. And
we noticed because one of our other cousins

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was putting up to the Black Bluff, which was about seventy yards away and

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about sixty five feet above us roughly, and there was a silhouette up there

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of a harryman and he was screaming
and started throwing rocks, and you know,

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everyone they were concerned, of course, because it's throwing rocks, but

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none of the rocks were hitting the
boat yet, and then one hit broke

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through the tarp and hit a piece
of moose hind quarter that was hanging there

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so hard it snapped off with its
line and fell to the deck, and

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immediately they rushed us downstairs, and
you know, there was a bunch of

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guns fire going on, and we
would hear screaming, rocks thrown, and

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you know, another volleyt fired it. That was basically where the reality of

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what we were doing with really sunk
in as far as the dangers, because

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seeing something at a distance versus seeing
its aggression or you know, the potential

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of that aggression, you know,
play out in front of you, is

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really really eye opening. But we
ended up, you know, sequestered down

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even lower into the sleeping quarters,
which wasn't very big. And I couldn't

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tell you how long the screaming and
the gunshots went on, but It went

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on for a while because they would
shoot it, it would fall down,

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it would get right back up and
and throw more rocks from what I heard

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later, and eventually we fell asleep
down, you know, down underneath there.

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And when we walked back up,
we were at the you know,

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dyn't have boat harbors. And you
know, my uncles and my dad were

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taught my mom and antis, you
know, everything that happened and whatnot,

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But that that was some of the
most intense portions of my childhood. There

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was other sightings, you know,
very picking and whatnot, and something a

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lot of people don't realize. I
was talking to someone from the village earlier.

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Today, our heritage is so steeped
in these supposed and mythological, full

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floored whatever you want to call it, but it's a day to day life

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and for a lot of villagers even
to this day, and it's it's hard

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to convey that sometimes because a lot
of people they're raised, you know,

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boy scouts, and you know,
they get out to national parks to get

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their fill of getting into the woods
and whatnot. And up here you step

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outside, you know, we don't
have any park boundaries that animals abide by

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I get most bare fox all that
they come through my yard, you know

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what I mean. So it's a
different dynamic up here. It's totally different.

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And when it comes to like things
like the hairy Man, little people,

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uh you know, acoustaa whatever you
want to call the otter Man,

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there's moose Man that. There's a
bunch of different stories if you want to

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call it that, but they're all
based in reality. And I think a

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lot of people just chalk that up
to, oh, that's just mythological talk.

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That's just you know, keep kids
in line and this and that,

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And it's not the case because I
know many villagers that could go on for

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days about Harryman experiences they've had.
Are their relatives head or you know,

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so on and so forth. So
it's it's really it's basically day to day

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life for a lot of people in
the village. That story you just told

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me, it sounded like, so
did they actually hit the hairyman with their

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with their shots? Do you think, oh, yeah, one hundred percent

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percent? According to what I was
told later, it just kept getting back

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up and throwing more rocks. We
come from a long one of subsistence hunters.

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We when we're when we're shooting,
it's not braggadosia. We shoot to

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kill and make it quick. It's
you know, we're not out there to

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take twenty shots on an animal just
to wound it. We're from the mindset

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of one shot, one kill.
My dad's a Vietnam bad My uncles were

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non that's they they're well versed when
it comes to shooting. And the distance

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that thing was wasn't all that far. Wow, the stories that you've heard

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over the years, has anyone actually
been able to successfully shoot one so that

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it will be you know, they
got a specimen or or is it a

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thing where you'll try to shoot it
and every time it just keeps getting back

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up. Well, no, I've
I shared a story that Clinkett Elder shared

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with me. His name was Thomas. He's since passed, but he happened

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to have dispatch we'll call it,
three of them over the course of a

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decade on one time. The first
time was in the Tongus they were there

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for a logging job and what have
you. The second time was up the

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Copper River Valley, and the third
time was between Seliwick and Cowstag They where

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he dispatched one and what he related
to me, and this was just about

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a year ago that he had shared
this with me, or a little over

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a year. It was a head
shot through the ear or in the eye.

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That was the only way to get
them to stay down and basically die.

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The first one they buried, the
second one they burned, and the

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third one he claimed that he had
cut it up and disposed of its body

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parts, some of it in the
cave and its torso back at the end

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of the valley. So there's that. Now, this this gentleman was in

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his nineties. He had nothing to
gain, you know, by sharing that.

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That is extreme. Wow, that's
extremely detailed in ways I've never heard

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before on that show. And you
said clink it alter, and that reminds

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me I've talked to a gentleman before. It was that close to Prince of

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Wales Island, not horribly far from
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were involved with that area too,
from what I remember. But the southeast

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Alaska area is very intense with I
believe there's they say there's tribes of four

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toad sasquatch that are seen down there. Is that anything that you've into before

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in any stories that you've got,
I've heard those accounts. Yeah, I've

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heard of those accounts. I talked
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and you know, you get you
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five and even six toes. But
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toe prints, they're like twenty four
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giant. And there's a council of
those as well. And you still hear

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accounts from up near Ruby, up
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the trumpeting of like elephants and they
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within the last decade. That is
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to see a wooly mammoth live and
in person, just out in the middle

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of nowhere, that would be an
experience. That's incredible. So you've actually

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you've talked to people that have personally
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saying, or oh yeah, villagers
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River within fifteen miles of the river, is what I was told. Man,

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that's wild. I mean, you
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of the Yukon, and I've heard
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area is so remote, so wild
man, it's it's crazy. And you'd

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you'd mentioned mountain giants as well.
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I hadn't heard of either. Right, there was a guy, uh

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he was spotting for most or carabl
I forget what it was, but he

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said he had you know, he
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the power, but it was one
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easily see a mile away, you
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spotting and he noticed this big grayish
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was trees on its back, and
he said it was about thirty foot tall,

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and it had like a main going
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green, had hair down its forearms
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was a little longer around the wrist
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kind of reminded him of a snapping
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on the back or whatever. Sure, and he said it kind of looked

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like that, but it was more
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back. It had tusks from the
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watching this thing from roughly a mile
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in the distance, and he looked, probably not where the plane was,

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and he spotted the plane. Then
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he looked back, he saw it
just the tail into this thing, crunching

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down to the ground, and it
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when this thing was moving, it
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kind of laid low, stayed still
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incredible, man. I wonder if
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or anything of creatures like that is. That's a new subject for me.

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Man. Well, I've personally seen
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way better footage in four K resolution
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down on the peninsula and these people
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had started getting goats because they you
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land clear, you know, the
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minimum. And they had a couple
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started their homestead on about five to
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goats came up missing one day,
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looked around, saw some weird tracks, thought it was a double bear in

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freshion, you know, and so, okay, it's a bear. So

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he kind of went outside of the
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no blood trail, no sign of
this missing goat. Comes back that

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evening he saw a dark shadow in
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the trees to scare whatever this large
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a bear on its hind feet.
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no foul kind of thought process.
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were drinking coffee at their table,
they heard a loud just this monstrous scream

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that ended in the high pitch,
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ripped it in half, and threw
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after another. And that got their
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saw what was left of the goat
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once it got a little lighter outside, he went out to investigate. Nothing

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was going on. It was dead
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of the goat, and Kara looked
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was. They had called the authorities
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the bears are around, you know, keep your goats close, put up

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electrical fence, you know, just
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the scream part of it. They
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on that day he was out in
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this is rustic. It was freshly
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a manicure lawn or anything, but
they did have a fence up. It

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was about forty feet from their front
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was basically their front lawn. And
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they heard a scream, and so
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him, and on video, the
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from inside from a little sony handicap, and this sasquatch walked between that fence

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and this guy who had his daughter
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at him was such disdain and like
hatred, like he wanted to end him,

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but for some reason he couldn't kind
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clear around video the thing just walked
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went off into the trees. I
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that footage anonymously. I told him
I'd leave their names out, I'd wear

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faces, i would do whatever I
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to release this footage. And they
wouldn't budge. And you know, I

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wasn't gonna put on a bunch of
high pressure tactics. That was their footage,

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it was their thing. I just
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still wish I could get my hands
on that footage, because you know,

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the Patterson gimbling footage is great,
but this is on a different level of

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clarity. You could see the muscle
moment clearly. You can damn their count

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individual hairs on this thing, and
its face was very defined, very clear.

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It was just amazing footage. And
unfortunately, you know, they want

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no part of it. They want
not even anonymously, they want to share.

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They were just asking my advice on
how to keep them away from their

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property and that's as far as they
wanted to take it. Unfortunately, that

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is a shame. But you do
have to respect, you know, as

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they are the owners of the footage. But it sounds like footage like that

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could could totally you know, to
a lot of people, could prove the

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existence of the creature. I would
imagine. I mean, it would probably

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make a few people change their mind. But yeah, and it's intense.

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I saw it with my own eyes
in their cabin, in the same living

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room they filmed it from, and
that I tried to you know, I

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was trying to be as you know, unintrusive as possible, but firm in

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trying to express to them. Look, a lot of people can gain from

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this, not financially, but just
knowledge wise on the realities of what you're

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dealing with. You know, it
could lead to more help because the best

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I could tell you is, you
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and you know, stay in at
night. You know, that's that's the

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best advice I could give, you
know, outside about right shooting the thing,

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and they wanted no part of that
either. I offered to come in

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with a team of guys and take
a look around. They wanted no part

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of that. Uh. You know, they were basically hoping that I had

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the silver bullet, so to speak, for their situation and you know,

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would make it all go away.
But unfortunately I don't have that. You

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know, can you describe you know, when you looked at that that video

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and you saw that footage, what
did you see in the face of the

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creature? It looked more Neanderthal than
eighth, very similar to what I saw

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in oh six, just not quite
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foot taps, I would say the
shoulders shoulder with just by simple just looking

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at the footage and the husband's height, I would say the shoulders were about

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four four and a half foot white
arms hung down just you know, just

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above the knee. The forearm was
longer than the upper arm. The hands

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were huge. The jaw was really
big, wide and pronounced. You could

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tell that its teeth if it were
showing them, would it protruded out further

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than the nose. Ash, gray
cord skin, pitch black eyes, real

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wrinkly faced. You could tell under
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definition was like these bodybuilders you see
that are just you can see every sinew

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and every fiber of muscle under their
skin. It was very similar to that,

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just coated in this hair. It
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inches long for the most part,
but the upper part of the head had

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a little bit of longer hair,
so it would it wouldn't look like half

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Rocker style on the hair on the
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it all went down to a shorter
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The genitalia was basically covered by hair. You couldn't eat. You could

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tell it was a big male,
but it wasn't like its junk was hanging

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or anything like that. It was
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you could easily see in the footage
when it was stepping, because I got

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the opportunity to watch it about four
or five different times, you could see

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the foot almost looked like it was
floppy because of that mid torsal break the

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way it was walking just and anthropologists
would would kill their firstborn to have this

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footage to study. It was it's
great, And I told them if they

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weren't going to share it, I
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what I told them, because I
would never you know, give away their

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name or their exact location. I
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you know, I tried to reach
out to them just a few months ago

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to see how they were doing,
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know, I think for a lot
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of confirmation that they're not crazy,
they want nothing more to do with it.

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I agree with you. That lines
up with you know, people I've

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talked to is a lot of times
they just want to share what they've experienced

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so they can go to sleep at
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I totally get it right because I
mean, on my channel right now,

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I have one hundred and seventy two
videos. If I was able to share

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every encounter shared with me that,
you know, if they were open to

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it, even if they remained anonymous, I would have four or five hundred

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encounters on my channels. It's just
a lot of people they want to talk

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to someone really going to judge them
and get it off their chest. And

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it seems like a lot of them
once they get it off their chest,

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they can let it go, so
to speak. That you know for some

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people speaking it out loud. Because
a lot of the people I interview,

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I talked to them three, four
or five times just so I get their

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encountered down. So when I relay
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the finer details. I could walk
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it to where they feel like they're
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you know, talking to the people
it helps me. For one, it's

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kind of like a form of therapy, but also it helps the listener to

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better understand, you know, terrain, time of day, circumstances, all

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that kind of thing. Versus if
I was just like, let's say,

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reading an email verbatim, you know
what I mean, Because those finer details

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and nuances you're not going to pick
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from talking to them. The inflection
and their voice when they're talking about their

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encounter, whether there was a comical
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of feeling that they felt. We'll
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you can use my name because I
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White Loose Lodge at Gally, Alaska, just right there at Denali. He

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was on a motorcycle trip of visiting
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having to stay there because the heavy
rains. But there was a banging on

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the back of that hotel that scared
him. Now, this is an investigator,

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anti terror, been to the sandboxes, he put it, you know,

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counter terrorism, well trained, been
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that they cycles, and this thumping, this banging on the back of this

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hotel scared him to his core.
He said he didn't understand it because he

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didn't see anything. But just the
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behind the banging on the wall.
It scared him. And to me,

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that speaks volumes. If someone that's
been through something like that can be scared

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to their core, like a little
child who's been through that, that that

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to me, it says a lot
about the creature we're dealing with up here.

386
00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:41.160
It's not your forced friend. They're
not here to help you with anything

387
00:31:44.359 --> 00:31:47.799
type of type of creature, you
know, And that that's one of the

388
00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:52.240
driving forces on why I want to
share a list of experiences is because what

389
00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:56.319
we deal with up here it's far
removed from some of the encounters you may

390
00:31:56.400 --> 00:32:00.839
hear about down in the States.
You know, it's a totally different environment.

391
00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:07.559
I think they're more aggressive because the
seasons up here are so short.

392
00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:12.000
It's already in the fall, it's
already been below freezing, you know,

393
00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:17.039
in the mornings already. Because of
that short cycle we have up here,

394
00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:22.440
I think there are a lot more
vicious because of the limited resources that can

395
00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:25.759
be attained in that short amount of
time. So you get a lot of

396
00:32:25.960 --> 00:32:31.920
encounters from moose hunters, caribou hunters, salmon fishermans, berry pickers, you

397
00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:39.400
know, every resource people go out
to attain up here is typically an encounter

398
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:45.519
location, you know, our potential
encounter location. I get accounts all the

399
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:52.039
time from the villages like the ones
outside of Bethel, Russian Mission Mountain village.

400
00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:57.640
You know, places like this where
out berry picking, these things have

401
00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:00.519
been known to try to lure women
away, you know, with this slow

402
00:33:00.720 --> 00:33:07.200
motion wave. I've had a young
lady in her early twenties share with me

403
00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:10.839
not too long ago, where they
were just checking the conditions of the berries

404
00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:14.519
to see if they're almost right for
picking, her and her little cousin.

405
00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:21.400
And they're in the wide open white
open tons, are nothing around. They

406
00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:24.680
get to this it was basically a
horseshoe shaped trail. They get to the

407
00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:30.279
apex of it roughly, and all
of a sudden, there's this Harryman's about

408
00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:37.319
seventy ish feet away roughly, And
initially she said she was almost in a

409
00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:40.319
trance like state, like she's felt
peaceful with this thing waving at her.

410
00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:45.599
And she's on a four wheeler with
her little cousin. So the trail they

411
00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:49.640
were on was well defined. You
know, you got your trenches from the

412
00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:52.880
tread tires of the many four wheelers
that have been through there before, and

413
00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:58.359
she veered off and she pumped her
knee getting off of that trail and had

414
00:33:58.400 --> 00:34:01.039
snapped her out of that trance and
she saw it for what it was and

415
00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:05.400
realized the danger and you know,
get out all that out of there.

416
00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:09.400
So you get accounts like that,
like what are we really dealing with?

417
00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:14.679
It's something that can put you in
a trance like state, you know,

418
00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:19.880
especially the vulnerable women and children.
It's it's real creepy, man, you

419
00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:22.440
know. And I got no answer
for it. It's just creepy stuff.

420
00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:30.199
Have you ever heard of people being
lured by the sound of a baby crying

421
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:35.519
in the woods? Oh yeah,
yeah, I've heard the baby crying myself.

422
00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:44.719
You have? Oh yeah. My
cousin Elizabeth Osterhaus now Elizabeth book back

423
00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:49.199
in nineteen sixty seven or sixty nine, one of the two. She lived

424
00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:52.079
down on Unalaska Island. No trees, it's a wind swept that's Harvard,

425
00:34:52.480 --> 00:34:55.400
you know, it's just wind swept. You may get some scrub brush,

426
00:34:55.480 --> 00:35:00.440
but that's it. They had a
neighbor, a young neighbor woman who had

427
00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:05.280
a child out of wedlock at the
time with the fisherman. The fisherman went

428
00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:08.519
away and she was left with this
baby, and so she would always ask

429
00:35:08.599 --> 00:35:14.360
for help from her neighbors and whatnot. But this baby's cry, everyone knew

430
00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:17.760
it because it was a colloquy young
baby and the mom didn't know what it

431
00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:21.239
was doing, you know, she
was doing, and so she would ask

432
00:35:21.280 --> 00:35:24.639
for help. And it was going
in the dust, getting dark, and

433
00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:30.280
they heard this baby crying outside.
They knew the cry and they recognized it.

434
00:35:31.039 --> 00:35:35.360
Well. They go outside her and
another cousin to look to see what

435
00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:38.000
was going on with the baby crying, you know, making sure the baby

436
00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:40.800
didn't need help. And they get
outside, they go around, they don't

437
00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:46.800
see anything, and they're going back
into their little apartment and right in front

438
00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:52.400
of the bay window, tim feet
away looking at him as this hairyman imitating

439
00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:58.599
that baby craft to a t,
to perfection it. She said that it

440
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:02.000
sounded identic. Go to the baby
crying. Now, to me, that's

441
00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:07.920
a level of cunning that is just
unreal, because they're literally using a woman's

442
00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:13.559
natural instinct against them. They're using
that baby cry to lure them out.

443
00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:17.639
That's, man, that is some
cunning stuff, man, Just just cunning.

444
00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:24.960
And yeah, go ahead, no
I just it just boggles my mind,

445
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:30.280
you know. And that's why we're
raised up here. You know,

446
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:36.480
there's nothing good that comes. We
were never raised to follow them, we

447
00:36:36.599 --> 00:36:39.719
were never raised to track them.
So when I got into this YouTube thing

448
00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:44.079
and I started going to look around, it was hard for me to get

449
00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:46.079
into it because culturally, in the
way I was raised. For some of

450
00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:51.440
the years, we didn't follow.
We didn't we weren't out to you know,

451
00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:54.280
take photos of tracks because we saw
them often enough. You know.

452
00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:59.440
We weren't out to capture video footage
because we've seen them oft enough. It

453
00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:02.239
wasn't it wasn't on our to do
list, it wasn't a big deal.

454
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:07.360
It was just what it was,
you know. So it's been kind of

455
00:37:07.519 --> 00:37:14.400
a strange transition doing what I'm doing
now. It's it's just different because culturally

456
00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:17.920
the way I was raised. It's
it's night and day difference. Because I

457
00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:21.360
still talk to elders that are like, you know, they'll tell me,

458
00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:22.880
you know better than to go look
for them. You know, nothing,

459
00:37:23.239 --> 00:37:27.880
nothing good will come of it,
and you know, I hate their warnings,

460
00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:31.400
but yet I feel it's important.
I feel it's a public safety issue.

461
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:35.760
You know, people go out there. You know, I've talked to

462
00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:38.760
hunters man that have been going to
the same spot for forty plus years,

463
00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:44.400
never had an issue, never heard
nothing crazy, never seen nothing crazy,

464
00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:49.280
but one twenty minute experience, and
they will never go back there again.

465
00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:53.599
They've given up hunting, they won't
even go out in the woods because it's

466
00:37:53.639 --> 00:37:59.599
just one random encounter and that's all
it takes. And that's another thing that

467
00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:02.599
bought of my mind is the randomness. You can have a group of one

468
00:38:02.679 --> 00:38:07.440
hundred guys go to the same spot
every year for their cariboo, none of

469
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:09.960
them have an issue. Then one
year, one of them will have an

470
00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:14.760
issue, their cariboo gets taken,
they have a siding or whatever, and

471
00:38:15.079 --> 00:38:17.639
it's done. For that, they
no longer go on. You know,

472
00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:23.840
it's just so random in nature.
It's Yeah, I want to address something

473
00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:29.679
really quick. If listeners heard me
have like an interesting reaction a little bit

474
00:38:29.719 --> 00:38:37.159
ago, I just was having such
just that the picture I had in my

475
00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:42.119
mind of that the hairy man imitating
the baby cry and the person seeing that

476
00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:45.119
actually happened. That's just that's something
that man, even if you're imagining it

477
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:51.800
that I can't imagine actually seeing that
in person. That's not a good thing

478
00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:58.280
to see. No, not at
all. She's in her late eighties now

479
00:38:58.559 --> 00:39:04.360
and she's still she still gets an
expression on her face of almost like shell

480
00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:07.159
shock about it, you know,
and that happened back in sixty nine,

481
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:13.559
you know what I mean? Like
these? Okay? With my channel,

482
00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:19.360
I share people's encounters, and the
way I do it is the way I

483
00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:22.360
was raised. We have an oral
history and oral tradition. We don't write

484
00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:27.239
things down. We just pass it
down, you know, verbally, And

485
00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:30.719
so that's why I treat the encounters. If anyone who watches my channel,

486
00:39:30.760 --> 00:39:36.079
they know what I'm talking about,
I try to bring the listener into that

487
00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:39.119
moment. And that's what our elders
did with us. You know, whether

488
00:39:39.159 --> 00:39:43.000
it be oh, carible hunting,
we were up here, we took the

489
00:39:43.079 --> 00:39:45.880
third slew on the right, and
you go up past the berry patches,

490
00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:50.559
you get into the script rush and
you know you'll find the cariboo back over

491
00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:54.480
there. You know. The level
of detail we were raised with when sharing

492
00:39:54.639 --> 00:40:00.760
information with each other was it wasn't
too I'm going to share all the details.

493
00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:05.079
It was life and death, you
know what I mean. It had

494
00:40:05.119 --> 00:40:10.079
to be accurate information. And that's
why I get upset with those who claim

495
00:40:10.159 --> 00:40:16.239
all history is just that it's a
it's fanciful, it's folklore, it's mythology,

496
00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:19.760
you know, that kind of that
kind of crap, that that's so

497
00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:27.039
inaccurate oral tradition, and our oral
history allowed us to live this long.

498
00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:31.760
I mean, Cambridge was what built
in sixteen ninety two, Harvard, Okay,

499
00:40:32.000 --> 00:40:36.280
the first brick and mortar that everyone
talks, you know, their education

500
00:40:36.360 --> 00:40:39.440
from book. Our oral history goes
back a millennium pass that, you know,

501
00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:45.679
even further, so you know,
when the educated get this idea that

502
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:50.800
roll because they learned something in a
book therefore has more relevance and validation versus

503
00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:54.079
something that was passed on orally.
I scott at that that that's the level

504
00:40:54.159 --> 00:40:59.719
of arrogance. That is just I
just don't I don't go for that,

505
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:05.840
you know what I mean, because
it's it's dismissive. You know. They

506
00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:09.920
want to they want to call it
our chic you know whatever, and just

507
00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:15.119
chock it up the folklore. And
that's not the case. It's not the

508
00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:17.760
case at all. That's extremely interesting. I've never thought of it that way

509
00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:22.639
before, but that is, that
is very very cool. Fred. So

510
00:41:23.039 --> 00:41:29.639
you mentioned earlier how there are these
times in your early childhood where you you

511
00:41:29.719 --> 00:41:37.239
know, experience things and saw things. There were there times also in your

512
00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:42.480
as you got into adulthood where you
know, you had experiences that kind of

513
00:41:42.519 --> 00:41:49.760
cemented it into your mind at an
older age as well. Oh yes,

514
00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:52.039
several different times. But okay,
let me break down for you. So,

515
00:41:52.159 --> 00:41:57.320
sure, we would see him at
a distance on a regular basis.

516
00:41:57.400 --> 00:42:00.599
No I'm not saying every day,
but on a regular enough basis, we

517
00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:05.679
would see him at a distance.
And usually what would happen in those occurrences

518
00:42:05.800 --> 00:42:09.719
would they would either run off our
scream at us and break something. We

519
00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:14.199
would run off. And it was
always at a distance. It was never

520
00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:17.599
like right up on us, except
for a few times in passing, but

521
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:23.840
it was always just inside a vehicle, just inside a house and things like

522
00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:29.039
that, to where they would they
would typically leave or we would leave.

523
00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:34.440
Uh. In ninety five, we
me and my cousin, Spencer, and

524
00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:37.880
a couple of the people we were
looking for woodland cariboo. They're a little

525
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:42.519
bigger than your standard cariboo of what
you would call a ranger, and we

526
00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:45.639
were we were checking these outpine meadows
where some locals said, hey, they

527
00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:49.320
mill around up there. If you
go up there and look, you you'll

528
00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:52.079
probably find one. So we wanted
once, and so we're up there on

529
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:59.800
foot. We had beached our skiff
and we walked up this hill and there's

530
00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:04.440
loping kind of like steps as we're
going up to each of these little alpine

531
00:43:04.519 --> 00:43:07.599
meadows. And we got up to
the upper, the most upper one in

532
00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:13.800
this portion of the basically the Wood
River mountains. And we got up to

533
00:43:13.880 --> 00:43:20.280
this step and it was a lot
of grass and muskeg just at the beginnings

534
00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:25.239
of like a probably an ancient beaver
pond, I would guess because of how

535
00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:30.039
the land laid. But it was
all grass through there. And there was

536
00:43:30.199 --> 00:43:34.760
trees off to our right hand side
about eighty yards away roughly, and these

537
00:43:34.840 --> 00:43:37.159
are black spruce, so they're not
very big, and you know, they're

538
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:40.800
just you know, they were there. Well, when we get up there,

539
00:43:40.840 --> 00:43:45.079
there was no wind, and the
grass was about four foot tall,

540
00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:50.480
and so we're looking around for sign
a cariboo, and the wind blew from

541
00:43:50.559 --> 00:43:53.559
behind us and started, you know, the grass moved like you would see

542
00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:58.079
away crash against the beach, you
know, what I mean. And this

543
00:43:58.199 --> 00:44:05.199
grass was moving and this one portion
didn't move. It was a female sasquatch,

544
00:44:06.039 --> 00:44:08.760
and it was squatted down, and
if the wind hadn't blown, we

545
00:44:08.840 --> 00:44:14.880
would have never seen her. But
the wind blew we noticed, and immediately

546
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:19.440
she stood up. Because the gig
was up, we saw her. She

547
00:44:19.599 --> 00:44:25.360
stood up. She basically had a
caramel kind of dead grass color, and

548
00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:30.719
she was dark on the lower portion
of her body. But once we saw

549
00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:35.840
her, she made eye contacts,
stood there briefly and let out the scream

550
00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:40.079
as she ran from our left to
our right very fast. It was very

551
00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:45.480
very fast. But her coloring was
such that as soon as she hit those

552
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:51.599
black spruce, she blended in seamlessly, like a like a baby duckling in

553
00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:54.800
the grass, you know what I
mean. Just natural camouflage made it appear

554
00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:59.559
that she disappeared, but she was
still there. You heard her crash through

555
00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:02.719
the trees and stuffs, and she
was still bellowing and screaming running away.

556
00:45:05.320 --> 00:45:08.199
We'll be back with more big Foot
Society after these words from our sponsors.

557
00:45:13.039 --> 00:45:17.519
And that was typically what we would
deal with out in the bush. Typically,

558
00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:22.960
you know, some sometimes villagers will
say it stole my fish or this

559
00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:28.559
and that, you know, but
never for the most part, you didn't

560
00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:35.440
hear about outright attacks right when you
did. It was always second third hand,

561
00:45:36.519 --> 00:45:37.800
you know, so and so what
you mis seeing, you know,

562
00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:44.440
Harryman attack or whatever. And you
didn't disbelieve. You just basically thought,

563
00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:46.199
well, at least it wasn't me, you know, kind of kind of

564
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:51.480
frame a thought. Up until two
thousand and six, I would have told

565
00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:54.599
you they screamed, they break stuff, you leave, they throw stuff.

566
00:45:54.679 --> 00:45:58.960
Every once in a while, they
may come around your house, but they

567
00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:01.360
eventually leave. Just leave them alone, you know that. That was my

568
00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:06.880
mindset up until oh six. And
what happened in two thousand and six is

569
00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:14.679
it actually started in oh four when
my uncle he wanted to go golf prospecting,

570
00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:20.440
and he knew he had to get
portable sluice box, you know,

571
00:46:20.559 --> 00:46:23.400
everything portable because you know, we
had limited capacity on the twenty two foot

572
00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:29.159
skift and he wanted to be a
fishing and so it took a couple of

573
00:46:29.199 --> 00:46:32.719
seasons for him to cure all this
stuff. And in oh six, at

574
00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:37.079
the end of the fishing season,
he said, this is a year he

575
00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:39.239
got the time. I said,
sure, do uncle, you know,

576
00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:43.440
just just named the time. Well, he wanted to leave September twelve,

577
00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:46.480
and that's my birthday. So I
asked if we could leave the thirteenth so

578
00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:52.000
I could be in civilization at least
some part of civilization from my thirty first

579
00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:53.639
birthday, you know what I mean. It was like, Okay, we'll

580
00:46:53.719 --> 00:46:59.400
leave the thirteenth. So we left
Gillingham the thirteenth of September in two thousand

581
00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:02.360
and six, and we launched from
Squaw Creek and we went up the New

582
00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:07.039
Shack River and it's roughly two hundred
and forty eight river miles to the New

583
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:12.559
Yorkuk River where we were going.
And that was a couple of days process

584
00:47:12.679 --> 00:47:15.519
because my uncle was in his mid
to late sixties at that time and he

585
00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:20.880
would get cold on the water.
So we stopped in New Stuliahawk, visited

586
00:47:20.920 --> 00:47:23.840
with family for a day or so, and then went up river, refueled

587
00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:28.679
at kleig Nick, and then continued
on up to the New Yakuk. And

588
00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:36.800
we got to the New Yorkuk September
seventeenth, and it was a couple hours

589
00:47:36.920 --> 00:47:40.320
before dark. We had got there, and me and my cousin we wanted

590
00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:44.239
to run up and down the river
real quick, just check things out.

591
00:47:44.320 --> 00:47:47.159
But because it was getting late and
had the boat to unload, we opted

592
00:47:47.199 --> 00:47:53.679
to wait till the next day.
So we unload everything, and we weren't

593
00:47:53.719 --> 00:47:58.679
loud, we weren't boisterous, we
weren't partying it up or just randomly shooting

594
00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:00.599
guns off in the woods or a
thing like that. We just unloaded the

595
00:48:00.679 --> 00:48:06.519
skiff and went into this little sam
account of power shack. It was eight

596
00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:12.639
foot square. Everything was made with
minimal cutting because in remote Alaska, by

597
00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:16.039
state law, you can't have any
permanent structures. So this thing was on

598
00:48:16.199 --> 00:48:22.280
skids. So it's an eight foot
square. It's five eights plywood on two

599
00:48:22.360 --> 00:48:28.280
by four studs. Minimal construction,
I mean bare minimal is basically a drive

600
00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:31.559
in shell. And on the back
side of this place was a fifty style

601
00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:35.760
eggs shell kind of looking camper,
you know, the kind of talking about

602
00:48:35.880 --> 00:48:39.719
little toe behind the front of that
had been cut off and mounted to the

603
00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:45.960
back side of this little shack,
and all the windows were blacked out.

604
00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:50.599
In that back portion. It was
a bunk punk area because land of the

605
00:48:50.639 --> 00:48:54.440
midnight sun, it stays light out
there near day, you know, day

606
00:48:54.480 --> 00:49:00.440
and night, and so when you
step in the door, you came up

607
00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:04.079
the bank. It's about twenty feet
to the front of this place, and

608
00:49:04.239 --> 00:49:07.920
it's about a six seven foot climb
because it's on a cut bank to get

609
00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:12.880
to the to the top of the
bank there. And when you're looking at

610
00:49:12.920 --> 00:49:15.239
the place, if you're looking directly
at it from the front, the door

611
00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:19.719
is to the left hand side of
it. There's an old oil drum stand

612
00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:22.400
to the right hand side. And
again this is only eight foot wide,

613
00:49:23.159 --> 00:49:27.719
and so when you open this door, it's framzy. It's two by four

614
00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:30.239
on five as plywood. All it
had was this little jay hook to keep

615
00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:36.039
the door shut and a little bit
of a old piece of driftwood screwed into

616
00:49:36.079 --> 00:49:42.079
the two by fourder as a handle. So when you step in, there's

617
00:49:42.079 --> 00:49:46.599
a little card table immediately to your
left right there, and eighteen by twenty

618
00:49:46.679 --> 00:49:52.199
in window right above it, and
mirroring that window across on the other side

619
00:49:52.920 --> 00:49:57.960
was a little miniature sink, a
little tiny sink that drained right to the

620
00:49:58.000 --> 00:50:01.760
outside, and another eighteen by twenty
four inch window on that side, and

621
00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:06.840
then you got the little entryway dead
center on the backside that went into this

622
00:50:06.960 --> 00:50:13.519
fifty style trailer. So we get
in there, manload everything, and my

623
00:50:13.719 --> 00:50:19.440
uncle cooks for us. He made
some semon head showder and whatnot, and

624
00:50:20.079 --> 00:50:23.159
we had gotten done eating. And
that year I had spent some of my

625
00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:28.760
fishing money on a brand new Remington
eight seventy shotgun. It was a rifle

626
00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:30.840
barrel. Is gonna be my slug
gun, you know, just a gun

627
00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:36.000
with a brush, And I was
real happy with it. But the rear

628
00:50:36.119 --> 00:50:38.840
sight I was trying to adjust it, and because I had shot at a

629
00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:42.639
couple of times one up river,
and I noticed that the site was off

630
00:50:42.679 --> 00:50:45.639
a little bit. So as I
was doing the adjustments. At this point

631
00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:50.719
in time, my uncle and my
cousin are playing cribbage at this little table

632
00:50:51.199 --> 00:50:53.760
and we got a Coleman lantern going
because it's about a half hour after dark

633
00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:59.960
at this point. And as we're
sitting there talking, my uncle's giving us

634
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:04.079
instruction on you know, I want
a couple of buckets of padrick from over

635
00:51:04.199 --> 00:51:06.519
here that I want to try to
say apple and this and that, because

636
00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:14.079
his overall goal was to basically stake
acclaim and this is just south of the

637
00:51:14.239 --> 00:51:17.679
proposed pebble mind, which is according
to what they say the largest gold and

638
00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:22.320
copper reserves in the world. Okay, so there's a reason for that,

639
00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:27.960
because there's gold everywhere over there,
right, So that his idea was to

640
00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:31.519
basically start a goal mine, but
you know, just start small and see

641
00:51:31.559 --> 00:51:36.639
what we could find. What's his
line of thinking. So he's given us

642
00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:39.960
instruction on where he wants the buckets
and this and that, and I'm still

643
00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:45.320
dinking with this were sight well as
as he's talking, all of a sudden,

644
00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:50.800
the whole place kind of shifts.
It just made this creaking kind of

645
00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:53.880
sound, right, And so there
was no wind blowing, because again this

646
00:51:54.079 --> 00:51:59.239
is just a glorified box. We
would have known that the wind was blowing,

647
00:51:59.480 --> 00:52:00.800
you know what I mean. And
there was no wind blowing. So

648
00:52:01.039 --> 00:52:05.800
when I looked over at my cousin
where he's sitting, he's got the window

649
00:52:05.840 --> 00:52:07.960
behind him, in between his shoulder
and the top of that window, I

650
00:52:08.039 --> 00:52:13.760
saw a dark movement. And the
way I looked over there, he jumps

651
00:52:13.800 --> 00:52:15.360
up and says, hey, that
ain't funny, and I was like,

652
00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:19.159
no, no, there was movement. So we're on a salmon river,

653
00:52:19.360 --> 00:52:21.960
right, there was farn ounce in
the river as we're coming up, you

654
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:25.679
know, so we immediately thought there, I mean, it was the only

655
00:52:25.719 --> 00:52:31.159
thing that made sense. Harryman wasn't
on our mind. It had because it

656
00:52:31.320 --> 00:52:37.280
was around we just superstition wise,
when it comes to most villagers, they

657
00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:40.119
don't talk about it because it could
bring a bad omen and so there's a

658
00:52:40.159 --> 00:52:45.480
lot of superstition involved. So there
was nothing we actually openly talked about a

659
00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:50.000
lot of time. So he grabs
at thirty odd six. I got that

660
00:52:50.159 --> 00:52:53.960
shot there, and we had one
of those million candle powered like six bowl

661
00:52:54.639 --> 00:53:00.360
spotlights right fresh battery in it.
We opened that door, and to our

662
00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:04.360
right would be the river bank,
and to our left, about fifty yards

663
00:53:04.400 --> 00:53:08.239
away would be the tree line.
And so immediately I pointed to the side

664
00:53:08.280 --> 00:53:13.239
where we saw the movement. Well
where I saw the movement, there's nothing

665
00:53:13.320 --> 00:53:17.039
there. And we being towards our
left and more only about a step outside

666
00:53:17.079 --> 00:53:20.960
of this door, maybe a foot
and a half, we're shoulder the shoulder.

667
00:53:21.039 --> 00:53:23.480
We got guns ready, we're going
to scare this bear off. And

668
00:53:23.599 --> 00:53:28.880
as apparent to the left, once
we hit the tree line to our left,

669
00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:35.679
we come across three sets of eyes
shine and the eye shine was red.

670
00:53:36.920 --> 00:53:42.039
We could see these creatures. They
the ro Their eyes were huge.

671
00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:46.519
They reminded me of fence post markers, you know those three fence post markers

672
00:53:47.639 --> 00:53:55.039
they were. They were that big, and immediately like shock took over.

673
00:53:55.199 --> 00:54:06.320
It seemed it was ominous, an
instant feeling of dread because typically from what

674
00:54:06.480 --> 00:54:10.079
we've experienced before, you've beam a
flashlight at them that kind of ducked behind

675
00:54:10.119 --> 00:54:15.719
a tree, they kind of tried
to hide themselves with. These three didn't

676
00:54:15.840 --> 00:54:20.159
move, they just stood there.
So we duck right back inside and I

677
00:54:20.239 --> 00:54:25.119
shut that little jay hook. And
what was really weird is it felt like

678
00:54:25.239 --> 00:54:29.559
we put on ear muffs as soon
as we went in back inside and I

679
00:54:29.639 --> 00:54:34.800
shut that little Jahok. It was
like everything was muffled. I was talking

680
00:54:36.039 --> 00:54:38.519
and it's you know, have you
ever been on a plane where your ears

681
00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:43.119
haven't fully popped, so the person
sitting next to you sounds like, you

682
00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:45.880
know that right there? You sound
kind of far away. It was that

683
00:54:46.079 --> 00:54:51.199
kind of feeling. And so I'm
talking and I'm talking to my cousin.

684
00:54:51.280 --> 00:54:53.639
I was like, and I as
I'm talking to my cousin about you saw

685
00:54:53.679 --> 00:54:57.000
what I saw? Right? And
I tell my uncle, there's a hairman

686
00:54:57.119 --> 00:55:00.719
out there. There's three of them. As I'm saying at uh, within

687
00:55:00.800 --> 00:55:07.119
a moment, my cousin's on my
left shoulder, and he's holding the barrel

688
00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:09.320
of that thirty odd six with his
hands kind of like just down. He

689
00:55:09.400 --> 00:55:13.519
had the butt of the gun down
between his feats. I had just set

690
00:55:13.599 --> 00:55:15.880
the spotlight down, and I'm holding
that shotgun in my left hand, kind

691
00:55:15.920 --> 00:55:21.760
of off ended, trying to trying
to discuss what we're seeing, and all

692
00:55:21.760 --> 00:55:25.039
of a sudden, my cousin is
bam underneath that card table, had a

693
00:55:25.199 --> 00:55:30.400
death grip on that barrel, and
he's kind of moving his arms up and

694
00:55:30.519 --> 00:55:34.960
down like he was turning butter a
little bit. And he had wet himself

695
00:55:35.840 --> 00:55:39.360
and was just kind of not not
writhing around, but kind of twitchy a

696
00:55:39.400 --> 00:55:46.320
little bit. And he's looking the
opposite towards the opposite side, towards that

697
00:55:46.440 --> 00:55:50.840
window. But me and my uncle
looked at each other, We looked down

698
00:55:50.960 --> 00:55:54.079
at him, we looked back at
each other, and we realize he's looking

699
00:55:54.199 --> 00:55:59.920
across the little room to that other
window by the sink. So I'm literally

700
00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:05.039
about three feet from this window,
and we both turned at the same time,

701
00:56:05.719 --> 00:56:08.920
and once I made eye contact with
this well. Once my eyes make

702
00:56:09.000 --> 00:56:13.519
contact with this thing, I could
tell it was looking at my cousin.

703
00:56:13.639 --> 00:56:16.400
But as soon as I was looking
at it, it turned its gaze at

704
00:56:16.480 --> 00:56:22.639
me and furled its brow. I
only saw from the bottom of its nose

705
00:56:22.199 --> 00:56:27.800
to the top of its eyebrow in
that eighteen minute space. It had ash

706
00:56:27.880 --> 00:56:34.199
gray skin. Its eyes were like
black, translucent marbles. There was a

707
00:56:34.400 --> 00:56:37.400
slight glow to him from the Coleman
lantern, but it wasn't like a full

708
00:56:37.519 --> 00:56:46.599
on eyeshine. It was a little
dulled down. Within two milliseconds, I

709
00:56:47.760 --> 00:56:53.320
immediately knew what it felt like to
be prey. I knew what it felt

710
00:56:53.360 --> 00:56:58.119
like to be the rabbit in the
hole with the wolf outside. It wasn't

711
00:56:58.159 --> 00:57:01.360
no mind speak. It was in
the air. It was something about the

712
00:57:01.679 --> 00:57:07.880
energy in the air was that of
death, like you know, and the

713
00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:12.480
way it looked at me and and
furled his brow to kind of like glare

714
00:57:12.679 --> 00:57:20.239
right at me within middleseconds. It's
taken way longer to explain it than how

715
00:57:20.320 --> 00:57:23.119
it happened. Because I turned,
it gave me that look, and it

716
00:57:23.320 --> 00:57:28.079
started moving out of view of the
window towards my right, and I just

717
00:57:28.199 --> 00:57:31.840
shot through the wall right there at
three times with that shotgun. And what

718
00:57:32.079 --> 00:57:37.880
was weird is is I just charged
a shotgun in the small room and there

719
00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:39.880
was no ringing of the ears.
It just sounded like a thump, bump,

720
00:57:40.000 --> 00:57:45.719
bump because of that pressure. That
and this pressure I'm referring to it.

721
00:57:46.039 --> 00:57:52.039
It stayed the whole time, during
this whole encounter, So it was

722
00:57:52.199 --> 00:57:54.719
constant. It didn't bury, it
didn't get less or heavier. It was

723
00:57:54.800 --> 00:58:00.480
a constant. But so I shoot
the three times and immediately there is a

724
00:58:00.719 --> 00:58:05.519
scream and a simultaneous shift of this
place. And you know, I thought

725
00:58:05.559 --> 00:58:09.280
it was going to push us in
the river just I mean, we're less

726
00:58:09.280 --> 00:58:13.360
than twenty feet from the bank.
You know, I really thought we were

727
00:58:13.400 --> 00:58:16.360
going in the river. But there's
a scream that was so loud it shook

728
00:58:16.400 --> 00:58:21.159
everything in there that thought that the
stewl was made in It rang like a

729
00:58:21.280 --> 00:58:24.800
tuning fork from the screen. The
lantern was swinging. It almost took me

730
00:58:24.880 --> 00:58:30.039
off my feet, and everything went
quiet. There was no more sound.

731
00:58:31.440 --> 00:58:35.679
My cousin wasn't responding. My uncle
said a couple of things, but he

732
00:58:35.760 --> 00:58:44.320
basically went and sat in the bunk
room there and I'm freaking out. I

733
00:58:45.679 --> 00:58:52.159
was yelling at them to help me. I was. I felt all alone.

734
00:58:52.840 --> 00:59:00.960
And I'm amongst some of the most
hardcore subsistence hunters that I have ever

735
00:59:00.119 --> 00:59:06.320
known. You know, my cousin, for example, he was shouldered the

736
00:59:06.360 --> 00:59:12.280
shoulder with me with a charging style, you know, over eight hundred pounds

737
00:59:12.400 --> 00:59:17.000
female brown bear charging us. He
stood his ground, and to see him,

738
00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:22.440
he had wet himself. He's babbling
underneath the table and my uncle isn't

739
00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:34.119
engaging me, And so I knew
it wasn't over. Like something within me.

740
00:59:34.559 --> 00:59:37.360
I knew we couldn't just oh,
okay, let's call it at night

741
00:59:37.400 --> 00:59:40.320
and start fresh in the morning kind
of thing, because that wasn't what was

742
00:59:40.400 --> 00:59:45.360
happening. The energy was very ominous. It was jake quiet. So what

743
00:59:45.480 --> 00:59:50.559
I ended up doing was is I
slid one of the chairs over by that

744
00:59:50.760 --> 00:59:53.440
stupid little flimsy door for whatever good
that would do. And I took the

745
00:59:53.559 --> 00:59:59.320
other chair and I put it right
at the opening of that little cubby and

746
00:59:59.480 --> 01:00:04.400
I basically we sat there in that
chair listening to that Coleman lantern hiss.

747
01:00:04.960 --> 01:00:07.880
I don't know if we've ever dealt
with them and white gas Coleman lantern.

748
01:00:07.400 --> 01:00:12.599
You got to pump him every once
in a while. We'll be back with

749
01:00:12.719 --> 01:00:21.239
more Bigfoot society after these words from
our sponsors. But I sat there,

750
01:00:21.320 --> 01:00:29.239
for gosh, hadn't been five six
hours, periodically asking for help. The

751
01:00:29.400 --> 01:00:38.719
only the only reason I was able
to stop shaking like uncontrollably was I resigned

752
01:00:38.719 --> 01:00:44.719
myself to death. Am I had
to. Literally, I'm a dead man.

753
01:00:45.199 --> 01:00:47.239
I had to accept it, and
I had to and that was the

754
01:00:47.400 --> 01:00:53.559
only way I could rationally think.
I staged a bunch of AMMO. I

755
01:00:53.679 --> 01:00:57.880
tried to get the thirty out six
for my cousin, but it was loaded

756
01:00:58.000 --> 01:01:01.519
and he wasn't letting go. He
still wasn't responding. He was still in

757
01:01:01.719 --> 01:01:07.639
la la land like, and my
uncle was basically shut down. He wasn't

758
01:01:07.679 --> 01:01:13.440
saying much. He had his bible, he was being quiet. He had

759
01:01:14.079 --> 01:01:20.599
basically no advice to offer, and
he was he wasn't engaging whatsoever. And

760
01:01:20.719 --> 01:01:23.719
so I sat there pumping that lantern. Every once in a while, I

761
01:01:23.960 --> 01:01:30.360
was gripping that shotgun so hard that
it hurts my hands. I would have

762
01:01:30.480 --> 01:01:35.880
to let go and shake life back
in my hands because it my hands.

763
01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:40.559
I was gripping it so hard.
And you know, when a moth would

764
01:01:40.639 --> 01:01:46.679
hit the window, Oh my god, there were several times I almost switched

765
01:01:46.760 --> 01:01:50.719
cheese that place from the inside out, just from a moth hit in the

766
01:01:50.760 --> 01:01:55.400
window. There was moments of time
where I was just screaming out loud,

767
01:01:55.559 --> 01:01:59.960
you know, f and come get
me, you know, various things.

768
01:02:00.519 --> 01:02:08.199
Just it was rough because I was
there with two other people I loved,

769
01:02:08.760 --> 01:02:15.599
but no one was helping me,
you know. And so and I'm guestimating

770
01:02:15.599 --> 01:02:19.400
because I was in fits of terror, you know. So the time frame

771
01:02:19.519 --> 01:02:23.880
of how long I sat there without
my cousin responding, I'm guessing five to

772
01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:30.320
six hours, give or take,
because again I wasn't fully in my right

773
01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:35.199
mind, but I knew in my
heart of hearts I couldn't just go lay

774
01:02:35.280 --> 01:02:37.800
down and call it at night.
I just shopped this thing through the wall.

775
01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:42.960
And I don't know what else is
coming. You know, we saw

776
01:02:43.039 --> 01:02:45.480
the three sets, eyeshine. This
one was looking at the in the window

777
01:02:45.719 --> 01:02:51.639
at us, so I knew it
was it was going on. Whatever was

778
01:02:51.719 --> 01:02:54.480
happening was happening, and it's gonna
be what it's gonna be. Kind of

779
01:02:54.519 --> 01:03:00.679
thing. Once my cousin did start
coming out of his stupor, and it

780
01:03:00.960 --> 01:03:07.400
took a while because he was incoherent. He was babbling stuff, stuff that

781
01:03:07.480 --> 01:03:12.079
made no sense, gibberish. But
once he once he was back more to

782
01:03:12.239 --> 01:03:17.119
himself and I got him talking,
We got him changed, and I got

783
01:03:17.239 --> 01:03:20.719
him calmed down enough, you know, by reassuring him. I shot it,

784
01:03:20.800 --> 01:03:22.679
man, it ran away. I
shot it. It's bond, and

785
01:03:23.079 --> 01:03:27.119
you know, that helped. It
brought peace and calmed to him a little

786
01:03:27.119 --> 01:03:30.639
bit. But we were still in
the middle of it, you know,

787
01:03:31.559 --> 01:03:37.239
and I asked him, I was
like, what did you see? And

788
01:03:37.800 --> 01:03:40.440
once he pulled himself together, he
told me that it showed him his teeth.

789
01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:44.639
And from what he said, when
he was standing next to me and

790
01:03:44.679 --> 01:03:49.079
I was talking, he looked out
that window and there was enough of the

791
01:03:49.199 --> 01:03:52.719
light from the lantern that he saw
it. It was a little further away

792
01:03:52.800 --> 01:03:57.079
from the window, and it showed
his teeth and his body shut down,

793
01:03:57.840 --> 01:04:00.920
and he said when he was under
the table, looked he was trying to

794
01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:03.280
tell us, but nothing would come
out. He was just seizing up,

795
01:04:03.320 --> 01:04:09.079
basically. But that's when it came
in closer to the window, and that's

796
01:04:09.119 --> 01:04:15.840
when we turned and I saw it, and so we realized we need to

797
01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:19.960
get out of there. It was
not going to you know, we didn't

798
01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:25.159
want to be there. It was
all bad. So we came up with

799
01:04:25.199 --> 01:04:27.920
a game plan. We were going
to make it to the skip, which

800
01:04:28.039 --> 01:04:31.280
is twenty five feet away. You
know, it seemed like ten miles away

801
01:04:31.320 --> 01:04:35.239
at the time, but it was
literally just not very far, and we

802
01:04:35.320 --> 01:04:40.039
were going to drift out of there
until we got further down river because it

803
01:04:40.119 --> 01:04:42.679
was pitch black. You know,
there was no way to fire up the

804
01:04:42.719 --> 01:04:47.000
outboard and safely navigate the river.
You know, there's too many deadfall trees,

805
01:04:47.119 --> 01:04:50.159
there's rocks, there's all sorts of
things that could go wrong on that.

806
01:04:51.039 --> 01:04:56.679
So we were going to use the
spotlight our initial plan to basically keep

807
01:04:56.719 --> 01:05:00.440
ourselves going, you know, downstream, and you know, use the oars

808
01:05:00.519 --> 01:05:03.719
to kind of steer or whatever.
That was our initial plan. And so

809
01:05:04.119 --> 01:05:09.880
we're sitting there quiet for a while, and as we're getting up, because

810
01:05:09.880 --> 01:05:13.719
it was so quiet, we were
getting more brave, we were getting more

811
01:05:13.960 --> 01:05:16.880
courage to make this move, and
my cousin brings up, let's use a

812
01:05:16.920 --> 01:05:24.039
spotlight and see if there's anything outside
we can see. So we shut up

813
01:05:24.119 --> 01:05:29.480
the lantern because it was creating a
mirrord effect inside, you know what I

814
01:05:29.559 --> 01:05:32.800
mean. And so with it being
pitched black outside, the light inside just

815
01:05:32.960 --> 01:05:36.440
made the windows look like mirrors.
So we killed that and we beamed out

816
01:05:36.519 --> 01:05:42.519
the riverside first, and we took
a really good look. We saw nothing

817
01:05:42.639 --> 01:05:45.920
on that side, and believe me, we were really really looking. And

818
01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:51.119
so we went to the other side
and we started at the point we saw

819
01:05:51.440 --> 01:05:57.800
the three sets eyeshine and we're beaming
and we see nothing. I mean,

820
01:05:57.880 --> 01:06:02.199
there's nothing that's quiet, dead quiet. And this this beam, this spotlight

821
01:06:02.360 --> 01:06:05.400
had a fresh battery, so it's
not like you know, it didn't have

822
01:06:05.639 --> 01:06:12.719
the candela. It was bright.
And we beam in their kitty corner.

823
01:06:12.880 --> 01:06:16.599
Off the back side of this shack, about forty feet there's this old outhouse

824
01:06:16.760 --> 01:06:20.280
that long out of use, but
it was about eight eight and a half

825
01:06:20.280 --> 01:06:26.320
foot tall. It was built with
minimal cuts and it had a one sided

826
01:06:26.440 --> 01:06:29.119
roof, but at its highest point
it was about eight eight and a half

827
01:06:29.159 --> 01:06:33.679
feet tall. Once we beam back
to that point, we noticed this big,

828
01:06:33.880 --> 01:06:38.800
hulking silhouette behind it. It wasn't
immediately behind it. It was kind

829
01:06:38.840 --> 01:06:44.679
of back a little bit from it. But this silhouette was every bit of

830
01:06:44.840 --> 01:06:48.199
thirteen and fourteen foot tall. It
was hulking, five five and a half

831
01:06:48.239 --> 01:06:55.480
foot wide, pitch black, the
creepiest thing. Its size was immense,

832
01:06:55.679 --> 01:07:00.440
but it was absorbing the light.
It was giving nothing back, no shine,

833
01:07:00.079 --> 01:07:02.960
even a black beerrif you beam it
with a flashlight at night, it

834
01:07:03.039 --> 01:07:06.920
has kind of like a silky kind
of chrome copper, you know, kind

835
01:07:06.960 --> 01:07:12.320
of reflection to it. To its
high this gave nothing. It was like

836
01:07:12.440 --> 01:07:16.360
it was absorbing all the light.
It was like a big black nothing there

837
01:07:16.480 --> 01:07:20.960
for us. So it started moving
a little bit towards our right. We

838
01:07:21.079 --> 01:07:27.480
immediately killed that spotlight and we're all
tucked back into that little cubby, pitch

839
01:07:27.519 --> 01:07:30.960
black. We were freaking out.
I know we had the barrel's costs because

840
01:07:30.960 --> 01:07:35.679
I kept hearing the barrel of my
shotgun butting against the barrel of the thirty

841
01:07:35.719 --> 01:07:42.800
odd six. And we stayed like
that for gosh quite a while, again,

842
01:07:43.960 --> 01:07:46.639
just dead quiet. All we saw
was that minissing, whole king figure,

843
01:07:47.440 --> 01:07:54.960
and we hit and we heard nothing. So after a while, being

844
01:07:55.039 --> 01:08:02.039
dad quiet, we started reformulating our
game plan. And as we're going over

845
01:08:02.119 --> 01:08:10.079
it and stuff. Often the near
distance it sounded like rotor washed from helicopter.

846
01:08:10.239 --> 01:08:14.519
That bump bump bump bump sound.
Well, we started feeling it in

847
01:08:14.599 --> 01:08:18.000
the ground and what it was was
one of these things running by the shock

848
01:08:19.920 --> 01:08:25.159
and as soon as it ran by, because we felt it in the ground,

849
01:08:26.119 --> 01:08:29.199
and as soon as it ran by, it was like other ones were

850
01:08:29.600 --> 01:08:32.560
surrounding the place and they started running
around as well. I don't know if

851
01:08:32.560 --> 01:08:35.840
they were trying to draw our fire
or see if we were going to shoot

852
01:08:35.880 --> 01:08:41.439
again, or just outright terrorized us. I don't know, but they ran

853
01:08:41.560 --> 01:08:44.880
around and then they would it seemed
like they would back off, and then

854
01:08:44.880 --> 01:08:51.119
they would do it again. And
this continued, gosh, in a moment,

855
01:08:51.199 --> 01:08:57.119
it seemed like about roughly fifteen minutes, give or take, because we

856
01:08:57.239 --> 01:09:03.159
were white knuckle terror listening to this. And at one point, as the

857
01:09:03.279 --> 01:09:08.640
running was going on, it sounded
like one of them was sniffing the little

858
01:09:09.000 --> 01:09:17.279
trailer attachment to the chat. And
it's it's hard to express the level of

859
01:09:18.680 --> 01:09:26.319
of sheer terror like we were.
We were stuck, you know, and

860
01:09:26.479 --> 01:09:31.039
again, you know, one of
my driving forces or factors that you know,

861
01:09:31.359 --> 01:09:36.039
propelled me forward to share people's encounters. They had us dead to rights.

862
01:09:36.079 --> 01:09:40.680
They could have smashed that place to
nothing in a heartbeat, snatched us

863
01:09:40.720 --> 01:09:44.439
out of there, but yet they
didn't. They could have, but they

864
01:09:44.560 --> 01:09:49.159
didn't. Anyway, Just something that
dwells on my mind a lot when I

865
01:09:49.239 --> 01:09:53.159
think about it, is what they
could have done, yet they didn't.

866
01:09:53.840 --> 01:09:57.479
But anyway, so that goes on
for a little while, and then they

867
01:09:57.600 --> 01:10:03.359
back off and it gets quiet,
like super quiet again. And again I

868
01:10:03.399 --> 01:10:09.039
don't know exactly how much time transpired, but it was starting to get the

869
01:10:09.199 --> 01:10:15.119
first glimmers of getting lighter outside,
and with it being quiet for so long

870
01:10:15.399 --> 01:10:19.199
again, we were getting our courage
up. We had our game planed down.

871
01:10:20.520 --> 01:10:26.920
And it dawned on me at that
point that we drugged the anchor and

872
01:10:27.479 --> 01:10:31.640
bow line from that skiff shifty to
seventy yards. It was a long bow

873
01:10:31.720 --> 01:10:36.840
line because that skiff was used for
a settinet site, and so your anchor

874
01:10:36.920 --> 01:10:42.279
had to be long enough to put
the bottom and still not get swamped when

875
01:10:42.319 --> 01:10:45.279
high tight came in. Right,
So we had taken that anchor when we

876
01:10:45.359 --> 01:10:48.720
first got there and drug it back
over onto the tundra and dug it into

877
01:10:48.800 --> 01:10:55.800
the tundra so we're basically tethered into
the place, and luckily just ten foot

878
01:10:55.880 --> 01:10:59.600
of that bow line was chained and
then it went to a regular rope.

879
01:11:00.079 --> 01:11:02.800
And so I told my cousin,
you know, when you go first,

880
01:11:02.840 --> 01:11:08.159
you're gonna have to cut that battle
line. And I'll make sure that you

881
01:11:08.239 --> 01:11:14.079
know your dad falls behind me,
and I'll keep a guard while you start

882
01:11:14.159 --> 01:11:15.680
the outboard and all that stuff.
Right that that was our game plan.

883
01:11:16.760 --> 01:11:20.560
And so we're sitting there and we're
just getting our courage up because it's getting

884
01:11:20.680 --> 01:11:26.199
lighter out and all of a sudden, that same side of the wall that

885
01:11:26.319 --> 01:11:30.039
the doors on the front side,
it sounded like a pellet gun shooting it.

886
01:11:30.399 --> 01:11:34.840
At first, it was just that
that sound, right, and then

887
01:11:34.880 --> 01:11:38.760
the cadence increased where and then all
of a sudden, it was like a

888
01:11:38.920 --> 01:11:43.720
hail storm against that side. So
again immediately we retreated back into that tubby

889
01:11:45.680 --> 01:11:48.279
darrels crossed again, Like what the
hell? It was like every time we

890
01:11:48.399 --> 01:11:53.560
were getting up the gumption to make
a break for it, it was almost

891
01:11:53.600 --> 01:11:58.399
like they sensed it and they would
do something to terrorize us. I felt

892
01:11:58.439 --> 01:12:02.159
toyed with. I really felt like
cat and mouse type of ship and so

893
01:12:02.600 --> 01:12:11.439
that still bothers me to this day. Anyway. So we're in this cubby

894
01:12:11.640 --> 01:12:15.720
and we're all being quiet, and
after it's quiet for a while, we

895
01:12:15.800 --> 01:12:21.199
start whispering because it's getting a lighter
outside. And we sat there to where

896
01:12:21.319 --> 01:12:26.000
it was light enough where we could
easily see the tree line. We couldn't

897
01:12:26.039 --> 01:12:29.880
really see into the trees too much
because it was still silhouetted, but there

898
01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:34.079
was enough daylight to where we could
see the open ground and what they've been

899
01:12:34.159 --> 01:12:38.560
so quiet for so long. After
that, we've we've got our courage up,

900
01:12:39.399 --> 01:12:42.520
and so my cousin's in front of
me, I'm in the middle,

901
01:12:42.920 --> 01:12:46.159
and my elders behind me, and
I have the thirty odd six. At

902
01:12:46.199 --> 01:12:51.720
this point, my cousin has this
shot one and I have my uncle's his

903
01:12:51.880 --> 01:12:56.039
twelve gays old wing mastered, big
old long goose gun. It was at

904
01:12:56.079 --> 01:13:00.439
twelve gage, but I had that
swung over my shoulder for more rounds if

905
01:13:00.479 --> 01:13:05.359
I needed him. Because he was
in his sixties, he wasn't imbalent,

906
01:13:05.600 --> 01:13:09.399
but he wasn't spry, you know
what I mean. He kind of walked

907
01:13:09.439 --> 01:13:12.800
with a little bit of a hobble, So you know, I wanted to

908
01:13:12.840 --> 01:13:16.119
make sure I had enough firepower on
me as possible. So it's quiet,

909
01:13:16.640 --> 01:13:20.720
and so you know, it's go
time. So he has my pocket knife.

910
01:13:20.840 --> 01:13:25.119
He has to cut that bow line
and jump in the skiff and started.

911
01:13:26.000 --> 01:13:29.520
That was our game plan. So
we kicked the door open and boom,

912
01:13:29.600 --> 01:13:32.439
We're at the edge of the bank
in no time. My cousin immediately

913
01:13:32.560 --> 01:13:36.880
jumps down. I stopped paying attention
to him because my uncle's behind me.

914
01:13:38.479 --> 01:13:43.159
And it's a six seven foot drop
on a cut bank, so the dew

915
01:13:43.279 --> 01:13:45.520
on the grass and everything it was
a little slippery. So I had to

916
01:13:45.600 --> 01:13:48.359
help him get his footing so he
could make it down the bank safely and

917
01:13:48.439 --> 01:13:54.560
not just topple over. And the
way I positioned myself with his shot gun

918
01:13:54.600 --> 01:13:57.920
on my back, the shoka was
kind of pushing me forward the way I

919
01:13:58.000 --> 01:14:01.640
knelt down, so I scooped back
about four to six inches maybe before I

920
01:14:01.720 --> 01:14:06.239
stood up to wait, you know, wait for my turn to get down

921
01:14:06.319 --> 01:14:11.039
this bank. And as I get
up to full standing height, this rock

922
01:14:11.680 --> 01:14:15.960
a little bigger than a basketball,
whizzed by the front of my face.

923
01:14:15.600 --> 01:14:18.079
Had I not scoot it back,
and I just stood up from where I

924
01:14:18.239 --> 01:14:23.960
was. We wouldn't have this conversation. Man. As soon as that rock

925
01:14:24.119 --> 01:14:28.439
whiz by in front of my face, everything went slow motion and my eyes

926
01:14:28.479 --> 01:14:33.520
locked on that rock, and it
impacted about part of the river that was

927
01:14:33.520 --> 01:14:40.039
about roughly three feet deep, fast
moving water. It impacted so hard that

928
01:14:40.279 --> 01:14:45.319
rock hit the bottom and sounded like
a shotgun blasts before the water could close

929
01:14:45.399 --> 01:14:49.800
over it. I mean, pal
And as soon as I heard that sound,

930
01:14:49.960 --> 01:14:54.600
it was like those ear muffs came
off and I could hear clearly.

931
01:14:54.720 --> 01:15:00.359
Again. Everything was still quasi slow
motion, but I turned the Actually the

932
01:15:00.439 --> 01:15:04.000
rock came from. No, this
thing was coming out of the tree line

933
01:15:04.079 --> 01:15:10.119
fifty yards away. We'll be back
with more big Foot Society after these words

934
01:15:10.199 --> 01:15:18.359
from our sponsors. That rock had
to have been in flight before I started

935
01:15:18.439 --> 01:15:26.880
standing up, you know what I
mean. It was like anyway parts.

936
01:15:27.119 --> 01:15:31.920
I turned and that big black silhouette
was coming out of the tree line.

937
01:15:33.399 --> 01:15:36.640
It still wasn't giving anything back.
I could. I could tell it was

938
01:15:36.760 --> 01:15:41.520
moving, but it was like it
was gliding. And immediately with that thirty

939
01:15:41.560 --> 01:15:45.159
OT six I put three round center
mass bam, bam, bam, and

940
01:15:45.319 --> 01:15:51.680
I heard the bullets impact this thing. Now, this thirty OT six is

941
01:15:51.760 --> 01:15:57.520
a powerful rifle. Anyone who's hunted
knows. We used the same rifle to

942
01:15:57.640 --> 01:16:00.880
kill walrus, bear, moose.
Thing we've come up against with that rifle,

943
01:16:01.039 --> 01:16:05.159
we've killed it. This thing took
all three rounds and all. It

944
01:16:05.479 --> 01:16:10.439
didn't flinch or nothing. It just
stopped moving forward. It just stopped.

945
01:16:10.960 --> 01:16:15.039
It didn't buckle nothing. Well,
once I put those three rounds on it

946
01:16:15.119 --> 01:16:19.319
and they didn't do anything. I
was getting this tunnel vision going on from

947
01:16:19.319 --> 01:16:26.920
the shot. Everything was kind of
closing in and I turned around. I

948
01:16:27.119 --> 01:16:31.199
jumped down because at this point,
my uncle's making his way into the skiff

949
01:16:31.479 --> 01:16:36.319
and the bow line wasn't cut.
My cousin got the motor running, but

950
01:16:36.399 --> 01:16:39.640
he didn't cut the ballot line.
So I'm yelling at him, throw me

951
01:16:39.680 --> 01:16:42.800
the knife, throw me the knife. He does the knife. I set

952
01:16:42.880 --> 01:16:45.920
the thirty out six into the bow
of the skiff and I'm cutting that line,

953
01:16:45.319 --> 01:16:48.159
and I'm telling him idle down,
idle down, because he had it

954
01:16:48.399 --> 01:16:54.039
idle too high to shift gears right. And of course it was cold and

955
01:16:54.199 --> 01:16:57.000
he could only do so much.
But you know, it was a tense

956
01:16:57.079 --> 01:17:00.960
moment. We're kind of yelling back
and forth and as I cut the bow

957
01:17:00.079 --> 01:17:02.920
line and I'm putting the chain,
and my uncle's kind of got his butt

958
01:17:03.039 --> 01:17:06.359
on the edge and he's kind of
turned the shimmy in. I shoved him

959
01:17:06.359 --> 01:17:11.359
in. I felt bad later because
it bruised his wrist pretty bad, but

960
01:17:11.520 --> 01:17:16.359
I shoved him in, and when
I jumped down, I noticed that my

961
01:17:16.439 --> 01:17:20.119
cousin had dropped my shotgun right there
on the beach, on this little small

962
01:17:20.199 --> 01:17:25.199
landing where we had the skiff perch, And so in my mind eye,

963
01:17:25.199 --> 01:17:27.880
I was going to grab my shotgun. I don't know why. I never

964
01:17:27.960 --> 01:17:30.560
got an answer of why he dropped
my shotgun on the little beach there,

965
01:17:31.119 --> 01:17:34.000
but anyway, so I shoved my
uncle and I'm thinking I'm gonna grab that

966
01:17:34.680 --> 01:17:40.199
shotgun, and the chain was hanging
a little more, so I dumped the

967
01:17:40.239 --> 01:17:43.920
rest of the chain in there.
And as I'm looking at him, and

968
01:17:44.000 --> 01:17:46.840
I'm still yelling at him, the
idol down and the idols down, and

969
01:17:46.920 --> 01:17:51.039
it shifts right, and all of
a sudden, his eyes get little big.

970
01:17:51.319 --> 01:17:56.239
My uncle when he landed, he
turned around and was looking back towards

971
01:17:56.279 --> 01:18:00.279
the direction of the bank, and
they're both looking over my shoulder up at

972
01:18:00.319 --> 01:18:04.079
the bank and I turned around and
as I'm looking up, I saw just

973
01:18:04.319 --> 01:18:09.680
up to about mid shin before I
realized, this thing is towering over me.

974
01:18:09.760 --> 01:18:13.760
And I pushed off from this from
the shore and he kicks it in

975
01:18:13.880 --> 01:18:17.399
gear out of reverse and we start
getting up on step to get out of

976
01:18:17.439 --> 01:18:23.000
there. And when we were leaving, he was kind of swaying the skips

977
01:18:23.079 --> 01:18:25.960
back and forth, and I thought
he was just trying to get up on

978
01:18:26.119 --> 01:18:29.079
steps. I thought he was trying
to, you know, break the friction

979
01:18:29.159 --> 01:18:30.880
of the water to get up on
step, you know a little sooner.

980
01:18:31.600 --> 01:18:35.640
But what I found out many years
later was he wasn't doing it to get

981
01:18:35.680 --> 01:18:39.760
on step. He was doing it
to avoid the rocks that they were throwing

982
01:18:39.800 --> 01:18:45.479
at the outboard. One rock hit
the transom so hard it left a partial

983
01:18:45.600 --> 01:18:49.960
puncture hole in the transoms, and
you know, we skipped on out of

984
01:18:50.039 --> 01:18:58.239
there, and it wasn't gosh.
I was in the bow and I'm still

985
01:18:58.359 --> 01:19:01.720
having this bit of every thing closing
in kind of tunnel vision, and I'm

986
01:19:01.760 --> 01:19:06.359
looking for the two hundred and twenty
grain bullets for the thirty odd six that

987
01:19:06.560 --> 01:19:12.039
we we typically would use for bear
and what was in it was one hundred

988
01:19:12.039 --> 01:19:15.359
and eighty grain corlock soft tips,
you know, the deadliest mushroom in the

989
01:19:15.439 --> 01:19:23.319
woods up until that point anyway,
and we I mean, that's basically where

990
01:19:23.359 --> 01:19:29.359
the encounter ended. When we got
down to where the new ya Kok in

991
01:19:29.439 --> 01:19:34.800
the confluence of the Lucia Gek River
met, we finally took a minute to

992
01:19:34.880 --> 01:19:43.000
take a breather, and immediately I
felt like I weighed a thousand pounds man

993
01:19:43.319 --> 01:19:49.239
from up all night with the tense
muscles and everything, and finally feeling like

994
01:19:49.359 --> 01:19:57.039
we're we got away, I felt
like I weighed a thousand pounds, and

995
01:19:57.760 --> 01:20:03.279
that that shrip ruined our relation relationship
because when we got back to the village,

996
01:20:04.039 --> 01:20:09.359
anyone with a pair of ears,
I was telling them, hey,

997
01:20:09.600 --> 01:20:11.880
you know, they tried to get
us. You know, my uncle and

998
01:20:12.119 --> 01:20:15.399
cousin were there. You know,
I was telling anyone who would listen.

999
01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:24.920
And my uncle was in a position
at that time where he didn't want it

1000
01:20:25.239 --> 01:20:30.119
made public because of this particular position
he had, and I pushed the issue.

1001
01:20:30.479 --> 01:20:38.640
I inadvertently kind of did no good
to our relationship either by pressing it

1002
01:20:38.760 --> 01:20:43.600
so hard, but because of what
had happened, I wanted to tell everybody

1003
01:20:44.359 --> 01:20:46.279
watch out that they tried to get
us, you know what I mean,

1004
01:20:47.159 --> 01:20:51.079
and they were more wanting to just
keep it hush hush and leave it where

1005
01:20:51.119 --> 01:20:56.479
it was. And because what we
went through, I just I couldn't not

1006
01:20:56.760 --> 01:21:01.560
tell somebody and warned them, you
know, and it ruined our relationship.

1007
01:21:01.840 --> 01:21:05.920
I was never able to fully make
amends with my uncle. He's since passed.

1008
01:21:06.760 --> 01:21:13.640
And my cousin that was with us. I talked to him once and

1009
01:21:14.800 --> 01:21:17.079
I went over the encounter of what
I remember of it with him and I

1010
01:21:17.079 --> 01:21:19.880
asked him, am I leaving anything
out? And that's when he told me

1011
01:21:20.960 --> 01:21:29.159
that they're throwing rocks at the outpot. But out of seventeen years we had

1012
01:21:29.640 --> 01:21:41.880
one fifteen minute conversation since that incident. That is that's incredible, Fred,

1013
01:21:42.159 --> 01:21:48.279
And thank you for putting yourself back
And that must is that hard to retell

1014
01:21:48.439 --> 01:21:57.439
that? I mean, that's easier
than others. Yeah, there's sometimes it

1015
01:21:57.520 --> 01:22:00.399
doesn't bother me at all, and
other times I get caught me emotion of

1016
01:22:00.479 --> 01:22:06.359
it because like it ruined my relationship
with my family. We were thick as

1017
01:22:06.439 --> 01:22:10.640
thieves. Man. We were three
p's in the pod. Us three were

1018
01:22:10.840 --> 01:22:15.279
always the ones on an adventure,
like always it was us three were the

1019
01:22:15.359 --> 01:22:19.720
main ones that if there was an
adventure to be had, we were on

1020
01:22:19.880 --> 01:22:28.920
it. And since oh six,
that all went away. Do you do

1021
01:22:29.079 --> 01:22:40.039
you blame those creatures for for having
a relationship with your relatives ruined? I

1022
01:22:40.199 --> 01:22:47.720
can't. I can't blame them.
I blame the high stress and their unwillingness

1023
01:22:47.880 --> 01:23:00.960
to like collaborate. Our basically backed
me up. Sure, you know what

1024
01:23:00.039 --> 01:23:03.319
I mean, because I felt in
that moment it was going on, I

1025
01:23:03.479 --> 01:23:08.720
was by myself because my cousin was
under the table, my uncle wasn't responsive.

1026
01:23:08.800 --> 01:23:13.000
So it was just a further continuation
of that. When we got back

1027
01:23:13.039 --> 01:23:15.439
to the village, you know,
I was told I was a crazy drawn.

1028
01:23:16.079 --> 01:23:18.960
I was told, oh, you're
just making sit up for attention.

1029
01:23:19.119 --> 01:23:23.520
Like why, why in the hell
would I make that up for some attention?

1030
01:23:23.800 --> 01:23:27.520
You know? I mean I gained
nothing from that, you know what

1031
01:23:27.560 --> 01:23:30.960
I mean? There, I gained
nothing. I lost so much. I

1032
01:23:31.079 --> 01:23:38.079
have gained nothing from it. Have
you ever been back to that area or

1033
01:23:38.399 --> 01:23:42.800
you never go back there? Uh? No, I want to go back.

1034
01:23:43.199 --> 01:23:46.199
I want to film a documentary.
And the documentary I want to do

1035
01:23:46.760 --> 01:23:53.640
is going to be a cultural thing
with just native people's on how our old

1036
01:23:53.720 --> 01:23:58.800
history from the past kind of meets
up with the present, that type of

1037
01:23:58.880 --> 01:24:03.640
thing. I haven't fully worked it
out, but that place is going to

1038
01:24:03.720 --> 01:24:09.680
be the pinnacle of that documentary,
you know what I mean. That it's

1039
01:24:09.720 --> 01:24:17.760
gonna revolve around that spot. But
logistically it is a nightmare to get there.

1040
01:24:18.720 --> 01:24:21.880
It was expensive for us, and
we lived in Dillingham, you know

1041
01:24:21.920 --> 01:24:26.640
what I mean. So for me
to go from where I'm at now back

1042
01:24:26.680 --> 01:24:31.479
to Dillingham for the same price,
I could go to Hawaii twice. Wow,

1043
01:24:32.720 --> 01:24:38.479
that's wild man. Yeah, so's
Yeah, it's a logistical, a

1044
01:24:38.560 --> 01:24:43.079
logistical thing. And I sure as
hell ain't gone by myself. I need

1045
01:24:43.199 --> 01:24:47.800
to bring some qualified people. Not
that my relatives weren't. They were the

1046
01:24:47.880 --> 01:24:53.239
most qualified I could think of,
even to this day that I know of

1047
01:24:53.359 --> 01:24:59.640
personally. But everyone's different. You
know. I wasn't a hero in that

1048
01:25:00.279 --> 01:25:02.760
when I made eye contact with that
thing. Man, I wasn't going,

1049
01:25:02.920 --> 01:25:05.600
oh, I'm going to shoot now, I'm going to protect us. No,

1050
01:25:05.880 --> 01:25:10.279
it was get off me, get
you know, get off me.

1051
01:25:11.319 --> 01:25:15.279
It was. It was nothing heroic. It was self preservation in that moment

1052
01:25:15.359 --> 01:25:20.720
when I started shooting through the wall. Initially my uncle and cousin didn't even

1053
01:25:20.800 --> 01:25:25.199
exist in my mind in that moment. It was such a shock to my

1054
01:25:25.359 --> 01:25:30.680
system. It was like every fiber
of my being wanted to flee, but

1055
01:25:30.760 --> 01:25:33.840
it was stuck in my skin.
It was like an electrical charge, like

1056
01:25:34.000 --> 01:25:44.399
a just a shock. Hmm.
It's it's probably one of the most intense

1057
01:25:45.640 --> 01:25:48.239
I would say it is the most
intense encounter I've ever heard. Fred that

1058
01:25:48.600 --> 01:25:57.479
that is incredible that you guys actually
survived that and thankfully you did. Man.

1059
01:25:58.199 --> 01:26:00.000
Well, yeah, and that's another
reason I have the channel. I

1060
01:26:00.159 --> 01:26:04.560
also have a website, Subartic Alaska
sasquats dot com. I have an interactive

1061
01:26:04.640 --> 01:26:11.279
map of Alaska and you can zoom
in on an area and there's marker pins

1062
01:26:11.680 --> 01:26:15.840
and if you touch the marker pin, it's are you click on it.

1063
01:26:15.000 --> 01:26:19.319
It's embedded with my YouTube channel,
so it'll bring up the encounter video from

1064
01:26:19.399 --> 01:26:25.319
that area. So, fellow Alaskans, are people traveling here, can let's

1065
01:26:25.319 --> 01:26:28.159
say they're going to Kenai Peninsula,
They're going to be by Skilac Lake.

1066
01:26:28.239 --> 01:26:30.359
Let's say, just as an example, they could zoom in on the map,

1067
01:26:30.479 --> 01:26:34.640
see the skil Lake, touch a
pin and they could hear and encounter

1068
01:26:34.760 --> 01:26:39.399
someone it had from that area,
not to scare them away, but to

1069
01:26:39.520 --> 01:26:43.199
make them aware. It's like bear
aware sides, be aware of the bear.

1070
01:26:43.479 --> 01:26:48.159
You know. It frustrates me that
so many people have these encounters,

1071
01:26:48.239 --> 01:26:53.640
but yet it's treated like, oh, they're they're making up a story for

1072
01:26:53.760 --> 01:26:58.279
attention. Man, No one needs
this kind of attention, you know what

1073
01:26:58.319 --> 01:27:01.600
I mean. It's not it's not
a badge of honor. But what drives

1074
01:27:01.640 --> 01:27:05.560
me is no one asked for it. No one asked to be accosted by

1075
01:27:05.600 --> 01:27:09.720
this big thing out in the woods
when they're doing their day to day shit.

1076
01:27:10.479 --> 01:27:13.439
No one asked for that, you
know what I mean. And so

1077
01:27:15.000 --> 01:27:17.760
I'm biased though. I don't trust
them for nothing. And when I hear

1078
01:27:19.720 --> 01:27:25.720
what I consider fanciful, happy go
lucky stories about my forest friend, I

1079
01:27:26.159 --> 01:27:33.960
ain't my friend. I could never
be comfortable with one near me ever again.

1080
01:27:34.239 --> 01:27:39.199
And I can't honestly say that if
one wasn't near me, I wouldn't

1081
01:27:39.239 --> 01:27:44.279
just open fire on it. But
that's my own personal bias, and so

1082
01:27:45.720 --> 01:27:49.960
I leave that out of the encounters
I share from people, I just share

1083
01:27:50.000 --> 01:27:53.640
what they shared with me. I
don't put a spin on it. I

1084
01:27:53.960 --> 01:27:57.640
just I give what I was given, you know what I mean, and

1085
01:27:57.760 --> 01:28:01.840
I leave my personal bias out of
it. There is a guy that he

1086
01:28:01.960 --> 01:28:08.319
shared an experience where he was rescued
by a female near the Gulkana River back

1087
01:28:08.359 --> 01:28:11.720
when he was ten, and I
asked him. I was like, man,

1088
01:28:11.760 --> 01:28:14.840
that's pretty cool. I haven't heard
anything positive, so you know,

1089
01:28:14.960 --> 01:28:18.319
how did you feel? And his
words were, I felt like they were

1090
01:28:18.399 --> 01:28:23.079
trying to get rid of me because
of the search and rescue efforts. They

1091
01:28:23.159 --> 01:28:28.119
had helicopters, small planes, you
know, the troopers out in mass looking

1092
01:28:28.199 --> 01:28:30.840
for him. And he said he
didn't feel good about it. He felt

1093
01:28:30.880 --> 01:28:40.600
like they're getting rid of the nuisance
versus really being helpful. Wow. This

1094
01:28:40.760 --> 01:28:47.359
has been an incredible conversation. Fred. As we start to head towards the

1095
01:28:47.560 --> 01:28:56.439
end of our time together, do
you have any words for people that might

1096
01:28:56.640 --> 01:29:00.479
be thinking, you know, I'm
going to go out I'm going to find

1097
01:29:00.520 --> 01:29:06.680
a big foot this weekend. Do
you have any the words of advice of

1098
01:29:08.359 --> 01:29:13.920
how they should maybe change their thinking
a little bit. I would say,

1099
01:29:14.039 --> 01:29:19.279
be careful of what you wish for. Uh, and it's not going to

1100
01:29:19.319 --> 01:29:26.880
be what you think. It's not
it's not going to be a harmonious whatever

1101
01:29:27.439 --> 01:29:32.119
maybe going through your mind. Don't
don't go in naive. They're they're not

1102
01:29:32.279 --> 01:29:40.079
our and now this is my opinions. They're not our force friends. And

1103
01:29:40.199 --> 01:29:43.840
I can only speak for Alaska because
I know it's different than in the States.

1104
01:29:43.960 --> 01:29:47.439
There's a different level of aggression.
Just be careful what you wish for

1105
01:29:48.760 --> 01:29:54.479
you. You don't want what you
think you do, You really don't.

1106
01:29:54.840 --> 01:30:06.600
Uh, there's there's a level of
understanding that you're lacking, and you don't

1107
01:30:06.840 --> 01:30:14.840
want that. Nothing good is going
to come of it. There's so many

1108
01:30:14.920 --> 01:30:19.039
people that have had encounters who had
a camera in their hand and did nothing

1109
01:30:19.119 --> 01:30:23.800
with the camera. They were soon
shot. If you have a weak cart,

1110
01:30:24.520 --> 01:30:30.560
be prepared because you may need a
defense. It's not what you think

1111
01:30:30.600 --> 01:30:33.640
it's going to be. It's not
going to be that exciting oh yea moment.

1112
01:30:33.880 --> 01:30:43.880
No, it is life altering,
terrifying some wise. Words from someone

1113
01:30:44.039 --> 01:30:49.560
who has had multiple encounters themselves.
Fred, thank you so much for coming

1114
01:30:49.640 --> 01:30:54.800
on and sharing what has happened to
you. Do you mind taking a few

1115
01:30:54.880 --> 01:30:59.720
more minutes and sharing with people how
they can keep up to date with sub

1116
01:30:59.800 --> 01:31:05.399
our to Alaska Sasquatch and what's the
best way to do that. Well,

1117
01:31:05.560 --> 01:31:10.920
yeah, I mean I have a
couple of email accounts. They could easily

1118
01:31:11.039 --> 01:31:15.119
be found in the description of the
channel. I leave my phone number,

1119
01:31:15.880 --> 01:31:20.000
and you know, people can contact
me that way during daylight hours Alaska,

1120
01:31:20.479 --> 01:31:25.319
if you're on the East coast,
I'm four hours behind, so you know,

1121
01:31:25.479 --> 01:31:29.760
wherever you may be, just keep
that in mind. I've gotten calls

1122
01:31:29.880 --> 01:31:32.960
at you know, three in the
morning and at seven am someone's having their

1123
01:31:33.000 --> 01:31:35.600
copy and they're waking me up,
you know, just to ask some questions.

1124
01:31:35.760 --> 01:31:39.560
I don't mind the questions. I
put my number out there for a

1125
01:31:39.640 --> 01:31:44.359
reason. But I'm easy to find, man, I'm really not hard.

1126
01:31:44.880 --> 01:31:49.880
You know Alaska and Harryman Project at
gmail dot com or no comp I know

1127
01:31:50.039 --> 01:31:56.159
seven at gmail dot com or you
know my phone number which is listed in

1128
01:31:56.279 --> 01:32:00.319
the opening of my most current videos. So I'm easy to find, and

1129
01:32:00.720 --> 01:32:05.800
I upload content when I can.
I live in Alaska, so I'm in

1130
01:32:05.960 --> 01:32:11.479
winter prep mode and you know,
I got background stuff going on. But

1131
01:32:12.319 --> 01:32:15.439
I'm very easy to find. You
know, if if an eighty something,

1132
01:32:15.479 --> 01:32:20.600
your old woman in New Orleans,
can find me, then anyone can there.

1133
01:32:20.680 --> 01:32:25.880
You go man it is. It
is incredible the type of people that

1134
01:32:27.199 --> 01:32:31.960
find people like us. I totally
agree with that, but we appreciate it.

1135
01:32:32.119 --> 01:32:34.720
And Fred, thank you so much
for coming on. I hope to

1136
01:32:34.760 --> 01:32:39.960
be talking to you again sometime in
the future. But keep doing what you're

1137
01:32:39.960 --> 01:32:44.399
doing. Man Yeah, I appreciate
it, Manna, and thanks for having

1138
01:32:44.439 --> 01:32:48.279
me on here. A Big Society
article is to provide a platform for those

1139
01:32:48.439 --> 01:32:54.880
that have encountered Bigfoot to share their
encounter in a safe and respected environment.

1140
01:32:55.520 --> 01:32:59.520
But we need to hear your story. If you've experienced something that you just

1141
01:32:59.760 --> 01:33:05.159
can and explain, please send me
an email at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot

1142
01:33:05.239 --> 01:33:11.039
com then we can start the conversation. I know a lot of you have

1143
01:33:11.279 --> 01:33:16.279
not shared your encounter at all.
It's been twenty years and it's time that

1144
01:33:16.359 --> 01:33:20.199
you get this off your chest and
then you can get some well deserved for

1145
01:33:20.279 --> 01:33:25.600
rest, because I know you haven't
been sleeping. I understand what you're going

1146
01:33:25.720 --> 01:33:28.279
through and I appreciate every one of
you listening