Howling Terror at Mount St. Helens: A Soldier’s Encounter

0:00 You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. To stay with us. Hi there, how are you, eprit Ka? Yeah? Yeah, you were saying you have a bigfoot story from the Mount Saint Helen's area.

0:42 Yeah, so I just was. I was just going flipping through lives and I run across your live and I'm I'm like a guy that I'm wide open as far as bleeding that something can be possible. And so I've always I've always enjoyed the outdoors. I've always take and I'm not the most avid outdoorsman, but I have did the long ranger stuff where you go out and just trek. I've lived in Washington State for since nineteen eighty seven. I was a soldier in the army here and I retired from the army and I moved back here as I retired because I liked the Northwest, and so I lived in the I lived closest to Mount Rainier, and I hear some horsebacking on Mount Saint Helens on Mount Adams. But that weekend I was hunting elk Mount Saint Helens. It was the early archery season. I was bow hunting with a friend. It was in early September, and I went hunting with him.

1:48 We were going to be out for three or four days camping that kind of stuff. So it was during the school year and it was just him and I and his son had to go to school. He had to get registered, he had to get to school cause school was starting up. So he said, hey, I gotta go in. I gotta take my kid to school. So if you wanna go in, we'll come back. We'll just go pack up and go back and come back out after tomorrow. I said, it's a lot of work just getting here, so I'm just gonna spend the night. So he left take the kid to school. He had to drive all the way back to Olympia. I was in. We were in down there woodland, down there, I'll say he and we were in the Eighth Cave area. That's uh where the Eighth Caves are. We were right that.

2:34 We were camping in those. In that area. It was the early archer season. We had a elk cow tag. Anyway, i'm'a get going, keep on going with it. So I stayed the night and I take books and stuff and entertained myself. So I put my I had my tents set. I went into the tent after dark, start reading, had my lan landing going with the light. I was reading a book and I just normally I would just fall off to sleep and nod off. So that night I just fell I just nodded off into the sleep. And I don't know how long I asleep, but I know. And a little bit after midnight, there it goes. I heard something. I woke up to it. I thought I was dreaming, dreaming, but then i'd listen.

3:23 I was quiet. I listened, and I heard it, and it goes again, and then all it would stop, and then it would be a pause, and then. It would go again. And the first time I heard it, it was really close I'm talking. Maybe sixty feet, maybe closer than that, but it felt like it was sounded like it made it been close, like fifty sixty feet. And then after that first how yeah it got. I could tell it was getting, it was going away from me. But I had never heard anything scream like that in my entire life. I had been in the outdoors. I know what elk sounded like when they bugle. I've heard stories people talk about Bob, like mountain lions and stuff they screamed like with me, But this was different, and so I came home.

4:19 It scared me. I didn't stay it another night. I didn't wait for my friend to come back. I hunted, tried to get my mind off of during the day round about dark, I packed up and came home. Then I told my wife about the story. She teased me and told me I was a big chicken, and I was like, yep, you should have been there. Then I probably would have stayed. But at the same time, I wanted to dig a little deeper. I wanted to know what I heard. I didn't see it. I heard it, and I know I was I know it was real, it was not fake. And so when I started googling sounds of sasquatch what does sasquat sound like? And I ran across some videos off of Google that I had found and I found one video off the sound of sasquad would it sound like?

5:07 And it was exact same thing I heard that night and that was my story. A wow, that is that's while the count icon. Thank you for sharing that. Were you don't I don't know if you mind me asking at first? Thank you for your service? And were you stationed out of Fort Lewiston? So that was after I have retired from the army, but I was stationed at for Lewis. I was staying exactly So. I've talked to a few people that have been stationed there over the years and they've always had some really interesting stories when you were stationed there. Did you ever hear any stories about people having big foot sightings or encounters in the woods around that fort?

5:53 Yeah, I sure have. I'm friends with some families with a family that we do. They do horseback stuff all the time. They're always in the woods in the mountains and that kind of stuff. And I just haven't been visiting that day and there was two guys they were visiting two, and they had stories and it was more like when they was talking we started talking about it, it's like we chuckle right now when the people are talking about sash squad and were everybody kind of have a story, right, and we kind of share it. And I'm listening to their story and these guys are like. They were like, yeah, this is what happened, and we both saw it, and so did our wives. And they had they were each married, had their wife there and their wives became witnesses at two. And I was like, wow, that's I've had that kind of interaction where people were they had witnesses and they not only witnesses themselves. There was three or four or three or four people. I'm talking about a group like two husbands and two wives that saw this. The witness the same thing. Their experience was different. It was something it was more or less like we saw it and this is what it did, those kind of things. And then the wives were like, yep, we were there too. And I lived close to these.

7:10 Guys, to the farm that I had met these guys on. And this has been a few years ago, this has been several years ago that I talked to these guys about that we talked and had this experience. But living here and living here in the Pacific Northwest, you hear a lot of stories about it, and there's a lot of believers here, a lot of believers. My neighbor, he's working on a project, working on his house right now. He has talked about an experience that he had and he called it the same kind of Sasquatch experience and stuff. It's really it's really kind of wild when you can't lay your hands on something, you can't see it, to really partake and believing in it. But it's just you just have to if you share your experiences, people share experiences.

7:56 I'm sure that there's a waste, there's something, there's something there. I spent a lot of time in the woods growing up here, and I like, like I said that we're in I met up in Saint Helen's a lot, not a lot. I used to hunt up there a lot, and I would be in the mud flow. But that's it was an area called the Margaret and that's the mud flow on the map. When you look at the map, they call it the mud flow. And that's where they eight caves are located. And then they have they have what they call big ear bats, bat caves and things like that where you can go in and look Around've never been in them. I've never been in them, but that was my story.

8:38 I appreciate you coming up sharing it. Also, is this a story I would be able to use for the big Foot podcasts that I have? Okay, cool, awesome, Thank you and thank you for coming up. And I hope you're able to stick around for a bit. Hey, Thunder, how are you? Are you wanting to come up and share a Bigfoot story? You have? Yes? All right, feel free to do friends, all right. This happened probably about i'd say nineteen eighty one eighty two, when I was in the Cub Scouts and I live in the northern Panhandle of West Virginia around the Elmgrove area, and we went to Dallas Pike. It was an old girl Scout camp and we were gonna we interacted.

9:21 With the Boy Scouts. They always did activities with us because that was our thing to move up from the Cub Scouts to the Boy Scouts. So we were going to go on hiking with the Boy Scouts and we were hiking up the hill and all of a sudden they started saying there's a bigfoot, and they just started running after it, and I'm like, all, we're like terrified. I didn't even see it, but it's like we all started just running with them. But later on that day we were going to have a football game, and the scout master and all the other dads that were there helping wouldn't let us go down to the field over the hill because they said they thought there was a big foot down there. And that was like my first interaction with anything. And I was a little kid at the time. That was my first interaction, and probably my second interaction would be. It was actually my wife, she told me. It was in two thousand and five, probably in let's see May. She was coming home from work.

10:25 She worked at a local restaurant, and it was probably about two three in the morning. She was driving up our hill to our house and there's a fork in the road where he can go up to the left side comes up to our house, the right side goes down over to see the rocks. A big foot ran in front of her car and she was terrified, and she said it took two steps on each part of the road and jumped over the guardrail. And what's crazy about it jumping over the guardrail. It's a long way down to the creek, so it either jumped into a tree or it jumped down over the hill and just slid down the rest of the way the hill. And I know she come home. She was seven months pregnant.

11:06 She ran in the house. She was terrified. She's like, You're not gonna believe what I just saw. It was crazy. That was the second encounter that we had. Let's see what was the next one. And then I had an encounter two summers ago. I went walking down our hill and I went to stand on our bridge that we have goes across the creek. And as I'm getting closer, I hear this noise. It sounds like a bullfrog, but it doesn't sound like It doesn't sound like a bullfrog. It sounded like something was imitating one, but it was really loud. I walked on to the middle of the bridge and I was freaked out, and I'm trying to figure out what is that noise? And then all of a sudden, I hear something crash into the weeds off of the creek bank. It sounded like I was a car come down to the creek and it starts running through.

12:04 This thing was huge. It starts running through the weeds and it's just ripping trees and branches down, and it went under the bridge. I'm so terrified. I've never been so scared in my life. I felt like I was frozen, like I could not move. And then. I'm standing there and I can't move, and all of a sudden, something's banging on the iron part under the bridge. Now mind you, it's probably twelve fifteen feet in the air, so you know it's no person. Something huge is hitting this thing and pounding on it, and I think it's trying to scare me to run off. Then it's doing it on the other side of the bridge. So I don't know if there were two or one, but it was massive, and it just really ripped through the trees and I got I finally got up enough nerve to move because I was terrified.

13:01 I walked off the bridge. I walked all the way down the road and I sat down at our church and I sat there for an hour. And this is actually how I found out about the Bigfoot Society. I started looking up videos on YouTube, and that's how I ended up getting into watching Bigfoot Society, and I was just terrified by that. And then this summer we had one of our cats went missing and it was getting towards dusk in the evening, and my son went outside to look for our cat and it was getting real dark, and all of a sudden, like twenty deer come running into our backyard and they looked terrified, and they just look scared, and they were like they're running right beside you like nothing. Normally they wouldn't even come near you, but they looked like they were terrified.

13:52 And he said that he saw something in the weeds. He saw two red eyes and they were pretty big, and he heard it grunting and growling. But we ended up finding our cat. But that was another thing that happened, but it was it just that was crazy. And then about August this summer, we were walking down our road and we just had this real bad smell of something dead. But it was like it was such a futrid smell. And I told my son, I said, I don't know what that is. It's crazy And I said, this smell is so bad. And what was even more nuts is when we came home from the store, we were walking back up our hill down by the bridge. We heard something growling in the weeds and we smelled that again.

14:41 So as we were walking all the way up to our house, we get inside and the fan started bringing that smell and it's like it followed us home. It was crazy, but that that was my counters. Wow, thank you for sharing. Those were those also in the same area, the last ones that you just shared. The first one was in Dallas Pike, but all the rest were in Elm Grove. Okay, gotcha. So that is pretty much a current situation where stuff is happening pretty recent. Yeah, And honestly, I can say, for the most part, I probably wouldn't even notice a lot of this stuff going on had I not start watching Bigfoot Society, because then I noticed things.

15:27 Absolutely absolutely. It's just crazy. I've been wanting to tell you for a long time. I just had to get up the nerve to do it. Man. I appreciate you you coming up and sharing what you've been through, and if you continue to experience and stuff, please reach out. My email is Bigfoot Society gmail dot com or you can hop up on one of these shows again in the future. But do you mind if I use this conversation on the podcast. You can use it. Sure, awesome. All right, hey man, thanks for coming up, and hopefully you can hang out down the audience for a bit. All right, thank you, brother, thank you. Wild stuff, wild stuff. All right, let's see here. Hi there, how are you?

16:10 Hey? How's going? Hey? Doing good? Are you coming up to share a Bigfoot story? I am so I have two bigfoot stories out of Oregon. Okay. When I first came to Oregon, I am originally from California. I had heard about bigfoot, and I never gave it that much marriage I thought, maybe I don't know, I probably don't believe it. So I moved to Oregon about ten years ago. The first year I got here, I was doing a solo camping trip and I was on Blm Land at this little pond about an hour west of Eugene. So I'm there the only person, and at night, probably around midnight sometime, I hear these howls all over.

17:06 Some are close, some are far every direction. If I estimate, there probably had to be twenty thirty of them. And I'm like, okay, what was this? Because I'm a pretty avid outdoors man, I know what a wolf sounds like. Coyotes. I know the noise is bear makes I'm like, what is this? It sounded huge and it sounded powerful. I'm like, all right, I'm not gonna get out to go find out because the closest one to me was probably, I don't know, one hundred feet away, and the farthest one maybe a thousand yards off in the woods. So I'm super tripped out. I know I'm the only one there. I can't figure out what it is. And honestly, I wasn't about to go out there and look because I'm like, no, I'm not taking that risk. So nothing happened that night.

17:57 I end up leaving. A few days later, I'm telling my friend the story and they're like, that sounds like a bigfoot. I'm like, what are you talking about? They're like, yeah, the bigfoot. How. I'm like, bro, bigfoot don't doesn't How what are you talking about? And so sure enough I googled it and I listened to recordings that other people have posted online, and my heart sank because that's exactly what I heard, and there's no other description, like just the intensity of it, like it feels almost like a powerful big beast, like you can tell so that was my first experience that kind of tripped me on, Okay, there's more to the organ forest than you think there is. And years later, I had gone to eastern Oregon to pick up a puppy and I was like making a road trip. So at the time, I was living in Eugene. And on the way back, they started to get dark. So I found a local campground and it was right at Subtle Lake, just outside of Sisters. Yes, no, I'm at Subtle Lake, and like, we didn't plan on camping there, and we found a campsite. It was the last campsite in the very back and it's really nice. It was right on the water and then there was a small forest patch behind it, so we set up camp. I'm super tired

19:27 from driving all day and I got two dogs. I have my Rottweiler and then the puppy I just picked up. And the fire was like dying out. It was just Col's. There was absolutely no noise, no nothing. All of a sudden, my rottweiler starts going crazy and still to this day, I haven't seen him that crazy, and I'm like, what is it? So I have a super bright tactical flashlight. I hit the turned on the direction he's barking, and I see these huge red eyes going back at me. And it was close. It was like sixty feet away maybe, and it was in the tree line, and in the tree line it was pretty thick, but there was almost like a window where there wasn't any brush, and all I saw were the eyes. And so my dog's freaking out right. I'm trying to grab my dog so he doesn't go charge it. And then I'm looking for something, hoping some sort of protection.

20:29 Right. I turned my flashlight around for a quick second. I turn it back and it's gone. And the crazy thing to me, what I still can't figure out, is my flashlight super bright. I never saw the body or anything. All I saw with these big eyes. I went to that area in the morning and I tried looking out from the window in the trees, and I'm sixty three and I couldn't look out. So he had to be at least nine foot tall to look out where that area was. But the thing that blew me away is he never made any noise coming in and out, and it was dead quiet. If my dog wasn't there, I would have never known. And I'm like, how can something that big move so quietly, and even where I'm at now, there's I live in the woods in southern Oregon now and behind me is thousands of acres and there's bears, there's mountain lions, and you can hear them move. But I still can't figure it out. So yeah, after those two experiences, I was like really blown away and turned into a believer. But honestly, after being an Oregon this long, I will say Bigfoot is probably the least of my worries in the woods.

21:50 Oh wow. Really, I've had weird experiences in the Oregon woods. And so when I went on this, after I had these experiences, I went online. I started looking at forums and reading people's actual comments, and I realized there's a lot more weird in Orgon woods than you think. And like I've personally seen orbs, I've seen other things. I've heard about crazy stories, and so I realized, like, looking back I think about it, I was just in a little tent by myself. There's tons of squatches around me. They could have easily done anything. They didn't try to intimidate me, they didn't bother me. They left me alone in my tent and the other time, it was just spying on us, like it was looking at us. It wasn't being hostile, it was just looking at us. And so I'm like, okay, he could have done anything at any time. I never felt threatened. I was more like, what was that right?

22:47 Blown away? But after my other experiences with the orbs and stuff in the organ forest, I'm just like, Okay, this place is wild. And I'm not talking about like the campgrounds. I'm talking like the bl the forest, the areas around like my property box up to the same forest that's connected to Crater Lake. So there's all kinds of weird stuff that goes on out there. But it's just a weird place. So this bigfoot kind of opened my eyes to everything else. I got a few questions for you. That's incredible stuff. I actually stayed at Subtle Lake for a few days in July, so I know exactly what you're talking about.

23:27 The first account that you shared that that small lake. Would you be able to share just the name of the lake if possible? Yeah, So, the I believe it's called Holt or Horden. It's a it used to be a logging area, and so it's not even a real Lake. It's a man made pond that they used to use for logging. Gotcha, but yeah, Holton or Harden cool. I'll do some research into that. And then so you say you're down by Crater, So does that I'm guessing that. I've heard a lot about the Union Creek and Prospect area. Is that an area you're familiar with?

24:12 I am, Yeah. So I'll use that road that goes through there to go out for central Oregon pretty frequently. I'll go to Lost Creek, Lake and those areas, and Prospect is one area I personally won't stop him, especially at night. Okay, So I've heard that from another person too, that they won't stop. Why won't you stop there? It's the energy you feel when you come right into it. It feels dark, and parts of Oregon forest definitely feel like that. Other parts of Oregon forest, like the woods behind my property, I've never had that feeling. And I'm out pretty far in the woods. Other parts of Oregon, it's pretty eminent, and so it's I don't know what's going on, but I'm not gonna find out.

25:01 Yeah, I mean, I'll be honest. I drove up to Detroit. I felt this that very similar thing when I was driving down into Detroit. It was a very weird feeling driving into that area. But have you heard of any any bigfoot sightings or anything in the Union Creek Prospect area. I have heard of them in the Prospect area, I have not personally. Prospect Cave Junction is like another area. You'll notice there's like hotspots pretty much all the forest on the west side of Highway five, right along the coast. Those areas are all thick, and then you have most of the areas around Crater Lake and then that forest that kind of goes from like Sisters down into like Bend area. Yeah, there's a lot in there. Around Mount Hood there's a lot.

25:59 It's that Cascade range, is what I've found from talking to people. There's so many sightings up and down the Cascades. I haven't gotten a lot from Southwest Oregon yet, and I'm not sure why, Like the Rogue River area. Yeah, so that's where I'm at actually, But the forest behind my property it's all blm and it connects to You could walk to Crater Lake if you knew the direction from where I'm at. I feel like the people from Grant's Pass into cave junction. They're they're probably not likely to go out and talk about openly or especially like on social media. They're more like those kind of folk.

26:46 That's been my experience. That makes total sense. Man, this has been a great conversation. I appreciate you coming up and sharing what you've experienced in your time in Oregon so far. I have a big FU podcast. Is this a conversation I could I could put on that platform. Yeah, I feel free to put it on, and yeah, thank you thanks for having me on. Absolutely. Hey Michael, how are you. Good? Are you I'm doing great? Are you coming up to share a big Foot story you have today? Yes? Yeah, feel free to go ahead. Okay. It was a personal sighting about five or six years ago in the Appalachian Mountains of Tennessee, an area called Cookeville, Crossville, A lot of people know Crossville more.

27:42 It's a tourist town. And I was heading back to Ohio and going by the Cumberland River, and I was almost a Dale Hollow Lake, a very well known beautiful lake. There a lot of woods, big areas, large areas of woods on the state park right there, and I could see up ahead, no traffic and no traffic behind me. It was on a Sunday morning, and I could see approximately three football fields actually more a quarter a mile ahead of me. There were the river was on the left back, left side, and it was a very narrow strip of back that came right up to the road, and on the right side was a cut out mountain.

28:45 And I looked and saw what I thought was a big bear, and I got really excited. I wanted to try to get a picture of it. So as I got upwards toward the bear, or toward the area, I drove probably a third really flooring it because I wanted to try to get a picture. It was down on all fours and I realized that it was very large, and I'm thinking, what's it doing on the side of the cliff, along the side of the cutout? Why is it on the other side. And as I'm thinking that, all of a sudden, it stands up. And when it stood up, it was incredibly large. I guesstimated right around eight maybe nine feet. It was very tall. But when it stood up, I realized and took the first step.

29:47 I was still too far away to say with any certainty that it was a big foot, but absolutely when it took his first step. It wasn't like a and I've seen bears walk on their feet and very well versed in the bigfoot footage. It's very famous universally of the bigfoot walking. But it was incredibly human like. It did not walk like a bear, and it swung its arms, had very long arms, and it's as if it knew I was speeding toward it, so must have heard, had great hearing because there was nothing coming the other way.

30:37 I was the only one there, and as I got closer to the animal, it hurried. It went right over the back quickly, and it did not have any earmarks of a bear and its walk. Secondly, it had a very slender waist, and that was the thing that stood out to me. Well, it didn't have a belly. It wasn't a barrel shaped like a bear. And as a matter of fact, I knew at that point that if I could just get there quick enough, I might get footage of a big foot, because it had all the ear marks, huge shoulders, a very large head that was just right on its shoulders, there was no neck like a bear, and most importantly, it was right on its shoulders.

31:37 There was no neck and with all the ear marks of what I saw. I immediately pulled off the side of the road, jumped out, got my phone, got my camera ready, and threw some I didn't see it but when I threw rocks, and I knew it didn't have time to go far when I threw rocks, just like the gentleman before me. But I've been listening to your show a little bit, but I definitely know that it literally went through the brush like it was not caring whether it broke anything or not. It was definitely breaking brush and we're talking larger brush saplings easily. And I never saw it again. That was it, and I was so excited. I just I can't say one hundred percent certainty that it was a bigfoot, but I know one thing I saw, and I see plenty of bears in Tennessee.

32:45 I see them in out of Detroit, like you talked, and it was not a bear. Wow, that's a great story. I haven't heard a lot from Tennessee from a I was wondering down or looking down the comments. You have quite the fan club down there, Michael. You got. To see you tell them all. Thank them so much from the bottom of my heart. I'm taking a hiatus from my show because of a relationship with my wife. She doesn't want me out on the world scene without her. She has an incredible she has an incredible collection of alien evidence from skull ancient alien looking skulls with brain trepornation holes in them. And she lives in Mexico, very near the Pyramids. And yes, I'm a writer about all the mysteries. And if I could, I don't want to take your time. Are you familiar with the Mothman?

33:49 I am, Michael, but I will tell you I have. As it turns out, I've got about eight people that are also wanting to come up and talk about Bigfoot. But can you so I don't have the time to talk about mothmam, but can you share a little bit about your books for a minute, just so people can check it out? Oh? Absolutely, Mike, you think in Amazon? Me, Michael Brumfield thirty one books. My newest is actually the thirty first. It will be out next week and its titles do Halos Solve Mysteries? The Angel Halo? Because I filmed a little drone flowing Salcer. They're using it right now on age of disclosure, And I personally think it's the best they have.

34:33 I'm biased, but no I'm not. I'm neutral. This is a side saucer video that is the size of a little trash can lid. What I explain is in that cover is that if we are seeing them now and they were seeing them seventeen thousand years ago, we are still learning that life is getting smarter every day. So could people be watching us like we watch ourselves now? And ultimately my books deal with why wouldn't they live with us? So the Maltman has red glowing eyes. I was going to share my personal not my personal experience, but when I wrote my first book, it was with a gentleman who literally saw the malt man with red glowing eyes. It looked just like a bigfoot. He thought it was bigfoot, because yes, and I just wanted to share that because it is very famous encounter where I grew up. They made a movie about it with Richard gear and my father crossed that bridge right before it collapses a truck driver. I was six years old. I remember it vividly because traumatic moments you remember. And my buddy saw the bigfoot. The he thought was bigfoot. It turned out to be malt ma'am the same night. And this is only fifty sixty miles from Perkersburg, West or

36:08 Point Pleasant, West Virginia. There Marietta, and that's the yearly malt Man. So I say they're all connected, and I could be wrong, but the title of my newest book, do Halo's Solve Mysteries? That's next week, The Little Angel Halo. It clearly supported what happened to me when I saw my little flying saucer hover above my head. And it clearly supported and match it has to do with my thesis about money and how money can derange people's focus on solving mysteries, helping life and thinking logically.

36:51 Yeah, so that's it, Michael. I'd say people really need to go check out your books over on Amazon. They sound fascinating. I'm going to check them out. Do you mind if I take this conversation we had and put it on my podcast to get the word out about things. Oh no, not at all, not at all very good. But you're just end the stinking thing where I live. A man I grew up with and he is absolutely rock solid, best dad person I've ever met in my life. When he told me his story just like those other people. He said that bigfoot. He didn't see it, but he said this creature was huge, come right up on them deer hunting and was screaming. And he said I needed to listen to the screams because he did google others.

37:47 And he said, this is real, Mike, And I said, I'm open to that. Yeah. So I loved his story. But the main thing was this bigfoot got right up on him and was trying, he said, was trying to get them to run, but they panicked and just crouched down in this great, big pile of thicket stickers, thorns, had blackberries, and the woods. And he said that this thing literally got within he figured, at a maximum of twenty feet from them, and it stunk so bad that he couldn't even hardly describe dead flesh didn't smell that way. But it was an ungodly, filthy, stinking odor of somebody who hadn't taken a bath in forever.

38:41 And it just with a wretched stench, And he said, and then they just they couldn't stay there anymore. They panicked and busted out of the thicket and run as fast as they could down straight down the hill. And it was they took a chance on risking their life and it never came after them, but they heard it scream again all the way down. They heard it scream several times. So that was his story to get to see it. But wow, the similarities, Yeah, the similarities with the stench, with the brute force of crashing around. You know what.

39:21 It was breaking, not little things like a bear, a smaller bear. They described intentional breaking of some pretty large saplings. One just a little snap and so then they would beat the ground with it. It was trying to scare the buddies, like he's wanting them to leave immediately, like. In this wild story. Michael, thank you so much for spending some time with us Sharon about things out there in Tennessee and West Virginia. And I appreciate that. I am going to check in with some other people, but thank you so much. I hope you can hang out in the audience for a bit.

40:01 Oh, thank you so much. I've spent about an hour, so I've got to get some sleep. I'm in Nashville now. So you got a great radio boys. Well, thank you, Sarah. I appreciate it. You have a good one, you too, Hey, Kat, Thanks for being patient. I saw that you know a few people I know as well. I'm pretty good friends with the Woodwalkers. Guys. Oh good, excellent. Were you at Hollands? I I wish I could have gone, but I'm out in Iowa, so I wasn't able to make it down. Okay, Okay, I went, and that whole year was definitely you know Misty Haynes.

40:44 Yep, mister Spencer, and yes, Greg Grace. Yes, I was one of the Me and my husband were one of the first people there at Hollands when we went camping, and you really need to go. It's quite an experience. Now, we had several people get violently ill when we went and were hospitalized. It was a real unique situation. But let me start with a little bit about myself and my first experience. I was living in Utah, and I'm sure you understand Utah has a lot of activity of various types. And I was living in Ogden. I was a young child of four or five, and my dad had a Native American friend that lived in Ogden Canyon and we would go camping, horseback riding and such back when we were young. I was approximately five years old. I'm a wanderer. I love the woods.

42:06 I hike, I will disappear and nobody knows where I'm at. And it happened on the mountain of Ogden Canyon and they couldn't find me. They went on horseback looking for me, and they said that when I returned, that I returned saying, the man with harry hands brought me back. That was my first encounter. However, I now live in Alabama, and Uncle Jack, he was our native friend, said that there were things in the woods that we weren't supposed to talk about, discuss, exploit things like that. They were to be revered and kept silent. And of course there were some things we weren't supposed to mention at all and anyway, so I kept that to myself all these years and when I met my husband, and we live outside of Creepy Mountain. Actually Creepy Mountain is my backyard, and I have a rock, a huge rock at the base of our We have five acres up against the mountain, and

43:36 I would go to this rock, and I'm a Christian. That's where I would go sit and pray and just have quiet time. I've always been an adventure nature person, and that's where I feel at peace. I started hearing steps coming down from the mountain and almost a purr or chugh. And this would happen on a daily basis. I would get up pretty much before the sun actually rose, and that's what I did daily. And this presence would be there approximately about maybe ten yards away, up against this lob lolly pine that we had that's got a weird curve to it. And then eventually I started from my peripheral seeing something almost. It wasn't that red rust everybody talks about. It was almost gray, a dark gray, and I wouldn't move. I didn't want to make eye

45:08 contact or draw attention. I would continue doing what I would do, and as time went by, flowers would show up on my rock, a pile of acorns or rocks. I even had some half eaten per Simmons on that rock show up. So I would again continue. But then I saw a hand, and I'm not kidding. He approximately eight to ten feet up and he would rub on this tree to the point after time he would rub a smooth spot on this pine. Matter of fact, when we cleared the backyard, we kept the pine because he literally rubbed it raw and he would rub it. Why I would sit there and pray and just meditate. Then he one day peeked around and I just slightly and looked him in the eyes. And he was old. He

46:40 was old, he was gray, he was worn. He was not this rust everybody spoke of. And the smell was not of like wet dog. I would hear the stories my husband would say, Oh it was that sour wet dog. No, he had a smell of, naturally a forest dirt, pine, but it was almost mixed with a wildflower jasmine kind of smell. And it was so.

47:21 Significant, and I didn't feel afraid. Matter of fact, I was totally calm, but I did not want to be obvious or draw attention. And it wasn't a growl, it wasn't a bark. It was a chuff, a perr, a chuf. And that continued up until we cleared the woods to put my son's trailer back there. And that was the real close encounter that I had. However, when we would go to Hollands, No, then there was a time I was gathering chickens, moving them from one pin to another, and this is about nine o'clock ten o'clock at night, and I have a handful of chickens. I got critters everywhere, and I'm not a spooky person. I love the nighttime.

48:29 I am barefoot in the woods. That's just me. I was raised that way. My daddy had away with animals and nature. He was a marine sniper, but when he'd go in the woods, he could literally call deer out of the woods. But so I'm carting these chickens and I hear this almost like a boulder running down the mountain side, and that's Creepy mountain. It's coming down. And I thought, oh my gosh, if they're after me, there's nothing I can do. I got a handful of chickens. Just come at me already. And I'm just standing there waiting.

49:10 And it stops right at the base of the mountain. And of course I can't see a daggum thing because it's dark, and I'm moving these chickens because the roosting's best. Time it stops. I stand there just waiting. I don't hear a growl, I don't hear nothing. I hear something that just stops, turns around and marches right back up the mountain. But when Creepy Hollins happened, I think it was last year. I've got cancer, and I don't remember exactly.

49:50 We were the first people to camp out there before the big meet up, and everybody from all over the United States came over there and it was marvelous. But that first night there in Hollins, I go walk in the woods and my husband and one other man came and they're chit chatting at the campfire and they're doing their thing, and I told my husband, I'm going to go do my walk about, and I had my little video camera going, and I think Spence has the recording, and I'm going through the woods and I'm coming back and I can almost see the camper and you hear it beside me something. You hear the footsteps, and you hear the growls. And that one was a little bit spooky because that's the first time I've ever heard it be aggressive. Maybe not aggressive, but definitely territorial. And you can hear it clear's day and I'm trying to get that camera up, trying to look around see if I can get an actual photo, and it's just wild. I get to the campground and I'm trying to tell my husband and I can't remember the other man that was there,

51:22 and we couldn't find the photo. And it was the next day I found the video and I said, here listen, and they freaked out. Oh and I got a picture. If you don't mind, do you mind? No, go ahead, I don't mean to be taken up your time. I'm sorry. No. So the great thing is that I really can take as long as I want. Say, you're good. Now. I do want to make sure that people get the context of this real quick, because this area is the same area where they found the hunter at the bottom of the tree stand and with his arms pulled out of his sockets. Right, yeah, the arms and legs literally. Yeah, okay, And I wish I had the picture with the boot beside it.

52:11 The boot was twelve inches and this is much more. That's just one. But you can see how his toes are dug into it. He was in a running position. Let me get the other photo. Hey guys, this is Holland's hunting camp down by. It's an Alabama. Look at the length of it. And and I'm sorry I don't have the other picture, but yeah, craziness crazy there. Now, this actual footprint is not at Hollins. This is at a hunting club by my house. All of this, which Hollins is only about twenty minutes from me. You got creepy mountain and then you got Hollands and they're all right there.

53:08 Wow. Yeah, I'm telling you someday I really want to get down there. You need to. I need to make it happen. What is the so how about this? You knowing so much about that area, Hollands and being there, et cetera. What is the craziest bigfoot interaction you've heard someone has had down there? Oh my gosh, do you know Flat Rock? Yes? I have. I've never talked to him, but I know who you're talking. Oh my gosh. He has so much and he has such recordings. He's had some really wild experiences. No, Dad, ain't a bear track. I've I lived in Utah. I know bear tracks and oat whoops. Yeah, and actually the black bear in Alabama are small. They're a little bit bigger than a German shepherd. We don't have anything that big here. Heckarder aren't even that big. But yeah, it's I would say flat Rock had some experiences. Rocks thrown everything.

54:27 Actually the last meeting we had, do you know Mark and Rebecca green Yep. I just interviewed Mark a few months ago. He is, they are marvelous. Yes, they've got some wild stories as well, and precious people. And yeah, we've but in my backyard. I've had friends just come and camp in my backyard and some really I mean, if you've heard of them talk about something that almost t REX sound war. You can hear that from my front porch.

55:09 Oh man, you can hear that on your property. That's amazing. Oh yes, it echoes all through our little We're just like in a bowl of the mountains. But no, that's just a little bit of my personal experience. And no, please, anytime you want to come hit me up. We'll give you a place to stay and show you around, take you to Hollins Creepy Mountain. You're more than welcome. That's awesome. I'll make sure I'm following you and I appreciate that offer. I'll keep that in mind. But thanks for hanging out for a little bit, Kat, and we'll stay in touch for sure. Well, this is this audio I can use on the podcast.

55:52 Babe. You can do whatever you want, all right, all right. Thank you, thank you. You have a good one. Good stuff. She's so nice. She's very nice. Hi there, how are you. I'm doing pretty good about yourself doing good? Were you coming up to share a bigfoot story that you have? Yes, sir, there's been like that. I visually saw myself one and my father and my stepmother witnessed an encounter. I live where this happened. I was in Repbank, Tennessee. On my encounter, I was I'm forty nine now, and again this has been a moon ago for mine. I guess I was probably about seven or eight years old, and the area of Rebank, Tennessee, where we had lived, we had like a ridge, you know what I'm saying. Though, One night we were just sitting around it, it snowed and you kept hearing like like somebody trying to shake like the side of your house or tap on it, or you know what I'm saying, stuff of that nature, and just a like a It wasn't like a big roar sound, but there was something that in the dark.

57:15 At my age, I was like, oh, this is not right. My step my daddy, he's real big into like big foot stuff of that nature. So he says, let me let me go catch this right here, and he says, we're gonna walk out there and find out what we got. So as soon as we turned on the porch light, there was a print very similar to that lady that was just on there all but were the it looks like claws. It was more of I guess it was probably maybe, I don't know, let's say, maybe two and a half inches wide maybe, and length wise from toe to heel, I don't know. I guess probably give or take somewhere around that same measurement, all right, But they were more of a roundish color or no color, but more of a roundish look on the toes. And then like where you're where the bridge of your our feet are, they were real flat and like a muscular you know what I'm saying, tied very unusual footprint, but again, I mean we're talking pretty long, fairly wide, and it went and just went around the house and at the area it was at my sister's room. Now all of us back then, my sister wasn't into no boys, nothing, this, that and the other anyway, And so that was the encounter I experienced, all right. But now my father and

58:46 my step mother this is there's an article that has been written up in the Chattanooga Free Press, Chattanooga, Tennessee. It's around the Falling Water area, boy Scout Road area, So just give you a landmarks here. And I've heard stories growing up. But anyway, my father we used to there's a creek that rested, they caught it around Sandswich Road. Oh, there's the creeks we used to all go fishing and this, that and the other. And there's a little railroad bridge and whatnot. So one night him and my stepmother were out riding around and just having a good old time. Across the street all this news guy across the street and he had a German shepherd. Okay, so it got to the point where some of these thugs this, that, and the other they leave their trash and all that kind of stuff. Anyway, he's like, well, he said, before I let anybody in here, he says, I want permission on y'all are going to have to give me a permission. O. Well, I know you got who's there. So my father and got permission to go in there. And every time you go in there, that German shepherd would bark across the street.

59:55 So that night, the very night of this encounter, the shepherd only barked one time. Okay. So as they're sitting there and my father happens to look in his rear view mirror. Now, they're right at the edge of the creek, okay, because you pulled off down in there. They're right at the edge of the creek. So from the top of the bank to the top of the water is about give or take, it's probably about five foot, okay, So from the water to the bottom, you're averaging probably five ish six foot, right, And so he just happened to look up in the rear view mirror and lo and behold there was some animal of what has been described type, not necessarily but like she said, like a grayish color with kind of red eyes, that had its front paul's hands whatever you want to call them, and was setting there with the palls on top of the bank like he was at the bottom of the creek. So my daddy was going to get out, what is this? And then there was a it wasn't really like a from my understanding, like a like she said, it's kind of like a dirt stench type smell, not something that'd be like, well, oh, you know, get out of here. Smells words and garbage or so on. So anyway, so my father decided that, hey,

1:01:26 look we might want to get out of here soon. As then we went to drive off, that German shepherd was laying behind their car. Yeah, And so as time went on. This was in the two thousands, and I've heard it growing up that there because a lot of folks back say, back in the fifties forties somewhere in there my grandfather's era, that people used to try line that creek a lot, and there's a few of them that kind of lived on the edge of creek, and that they are trotlines would get ribbed. So one of my grandfather's real good friends decided, we're going to try to check into this as somebody taking or cats or what.

1:02:10 And they called this same very type animal in the middle of the creek raising the trot lines up and biting the fish from the gills down and leaving the head on the trot line. Really yes, And then there was, like I said, there was an article. It was on our news like WRCB Channel three news, and then in the Tauga Free Press there was an article in the mid two thousands. Over you can look this up at Northgate r V Park is what it's called. It's right there in that same area of they were tracking footprints of that very size, like a little family that came down like in the fallish time like it was. And then the folks like over in the following water areas, which is that's all I'm just giving you landmarks. That's that's the Hickson area of Tattamugo, same place. Three seven what are the three seven three four threes area code.

1:03:12 But some of the old timers were talking about where they would come down off the mountain and like the little hunting shacks or whatever, and that they would try to from them being on the outside like it was their territory and try to tear up things to demolish. And then we had a another encounter, as she would dud was talking about the treesizes or whatnot on around from right over there what they called Old Hickson Park. We were sitting there on that same very creek further down from where I was was talking about the boy Scout Road area, and we were sitting there. There's a it's like a little cliff, so you can climb down to be right there at the edge of the water.

1:03:59 There were trees. One night, we were just sitting there just having a good time. Fish wasn't really biting, and then all of a sudden year, boom boom, boom boom, you know, like running running sound. And then the saplings probably about say eight to ten inches round, were like just pushed over. And then again in some of the areas because there's a little bit of sand like where it would flood and stuff of that nature. Same type prints around that area. But I just started share where you can, you know, back up into there if you need to. And again, it wasn't a long drawn out story or anything like that. It was just a brief thing about wait a minute, we got somewhere around here that doesn't gaw. But I just thought i'dctor coney here since I'm not the only one to tell you little friends or something of that nature. Man, you're just looking for spooks, you know what I'm saying now, So I just thought i'd done it. Ton in Tennessee area a red Bank, Hickson area bottom water of having encounters and like I said, I was born in seventy six having encounters, so things of that nature.

1:05:13 I appreciate you sharing. I had one guy come on the show once and he was talking all about your area. He had things from Lookout Mountain and Rack Caverns and blows Springs branch in Signal Mountain and Yesherson Bay State Park. It was really intense. That's episode yeah, seventy one. If you want to check that out, let me write. That down here reight quick. Yeah. See that single mountain, Fottam Water Mountain is the next mountain over from Sickle Mountain. Okay, gotcha? Yeah, So would you say that episode was I'm sorry. Just look up big Foot Society eight seven to one.

1:05:53 Eight seventy one. Yep. And like I said, I'm not about being out in the woods and stuff like that, and I growed up on that creek. But it's a little nerve wracking. I don't go alone. With that go down there, and I'm just gonna leave it at that, because again, I don't think the encounter that we had there sitting there on the rocks and creek and out of nowhere in the middle of the dark, all with the lantern. And then the next day you go on that side of the property and then you start seeing he's fairly good sized. Francis, I told you there, but eight to ten inch round saplings, an average man, an average bear, it's gonna take a minute or two to push it over next even if a bear could push it us.

1:06:41 But it was like somebody running through there, like we're the bulldozer or something. It wasn't really much sound running through there, but it was like they were just when I'm straight over and even hear wow, yeah, splash off in the water. Yeah. Yes, I appreciate you coming up, sir. Is this a kindnversation I can put on my podcast to let oh? Absolutely, absolutely absolutely. I don't have no problem with that at all, you know, because, like I say, you hear that from a lot of people. Oh man, there's nothing such like that, and this, that and the other. But yet again, like you're this is what you're doing here in the podcast because there's nothing like that out there.

1:07:23 My question though with that is it's very rare for sightings, and as used to being a deer hunter, where do they go won't be able to be seen? You know what I'm saying, somebody's going to be doing something. But yes, feel free. I don't have a problem. I appreciate you coming up, and I'm gonna check in with some other people, but I've got stick around down to the audience. But thanks, thanks man. I appreciate it. Yes, sir, and you have a great, wonderful evening. And everybody out there, including myself, y'all be safe. If y'all get out there in the woods, y'all have a great evening. Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've seen something that no one can explain, or if you're a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground, or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you've stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense.

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