Jan. 23, 2026

I Drove Past Something Massive on a Dark California Mountain Road!

A late-night drive through Northern California leads into something unforgettable. In this episode of Bigfoot Society, a retired California Department of Corrections employee describes what happened while traveling Highway 199 through Del Norte...

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Season 1

A late-night drive through Northern California leads into something unforgettable.


In this episode of Bigfoot Society, a retired California Department of Corrections employee describes what happened while traveling Highway 199 through Del Norte County, near the Smith River corridor, just south of the Oregon border. The road winds through steep canyon walls and tight curves, a place where visibility is limited and the forest feels close on all sides.


The witness recalls observing a large upright figure moving along the roadside, with enough time to notice how it walked, how it carried itself, and how it filled the space around it. The encounter stayed with him, and over the years he began recognizing how often the same stretch of road appears in other reports.


The episode expands outward into surrounding regions, including Bluff Creek, Willow Creek, Brookings, Oregon, Curry County, and the Trinity Alps. Hunters, truck drivers, and longtime residents share accounts tied to these locations, involving tracks in fresh snow, missing game, nighttime activity, and unexpected encounters deep in familiar terrain.


This conversation focuses on firsthand experiences and the places where they occur, forming a quiet pattern across Northern California and Southern Oregon.


Listeners interested in detailed eyewitness testimony and recurring locations will find this episode worth hearing in full.

Contact Doug here: brookingsharbordad@yahoo.com

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You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, Bigfoot Society, welcome back.

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We have the privilege of talking to Doug today. Doug

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is an individual I got connected to and he had

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a very interesting thing happen out there in northern California.

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A little background about Doug. He is a retired prison

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maintenance worker and up there in Dell, Nork County. This

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is a very interesting story, Doug. I'm going to go

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ahead and pass things over to you so you have

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the time to share what happened, and then we will

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chat about it afterwards.

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I had received a promotion up to the Pacific Northwest.

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I worked for the Department of Corrections for the state

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of California, and I went to a very remote northern

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prison along the coast, and I had moved up to

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the area. I was new to the area, only been

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here for maybe about five six months, seven months. And

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there's a very very narrow winding canyon pass that goes

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from Crescent City over to Grant's Pass. It travels through

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O'Brien and then Cave Junction in Selma, Oregon. And I

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was going over into Medford once a week and also

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over to Grant's Pass once a week while I was

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up here, so I was still learning the canyon because

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it's a big canyon and it's deep. The roadway, I

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found out later, actually parallels the one of the forks

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of the Smith River. So the region is known as

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the Great American River region because there's a Great American

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River every twenty miles up the coast. So it goes

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from you know, like five or six of them, and

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it's just a beautiful area. So I had had an

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older truck. Yeah, it was new to me. It was

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a nineteen ninety five Chevy. It was a duallye in

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a diesel. It didn't have the UH horsepower of the

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modern trucks, so that when you step on it, it goes.

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My truck was you step on the gas and wait

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for it to kind of catch up. Otherwise, if you

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step on it full, nothing would really happen in the

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gas gage you go down.

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So it was a it was a towing vehicle.

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It was a full eight foot bed quodcab had running boards,

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lights on it and stuff.

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So I was coming home.

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It was in the month of February of two thousand

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and six.

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Like I said, I was still new to the area.

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It was cold, and I pulled over at one of

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the bug stations that as you enter into California from

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Oregon you have to get your stuff looked at while

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it was closed, and I pulled off there because I

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knew I could rest.

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It was late, I was tired.

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It was a little bit after midnight, so I just

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laid there with the engine running to keep my feet

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warm and close my eyes because I had to go

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to work the next day. It was a Thursday. So

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I sat there at the engine running and it's dark.

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There's no lights around there. It's not like the city,

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and I just kept the cab lights on with the

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doors locked and was idling with my eyes closed, And

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after about twenty thirty minutes, I said, okay, you know

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you wake up every now and then just because you

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didn't want to make sure your feet are okay because

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it was cold, and I go, you'll be okay because

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it's a good hour and twenty minutes home from there.

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It's still i'd been driving.

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It was late, and I left the bug station about

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maybe twelve thirty five, twelve thirty somewhere in there. So

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as I drove, you go up and you enter into

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what's called Coliar Tunnel. So it's a big tunnel that

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cuts through the mountain and a big, big, big drop

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down the mountain side. So as I was coming down,

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because it's so dark there, you get tractor traders for

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the logging companies that go flying through there at night sometimes,

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and I've seen them because they scared me a little bit,

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and their back end is up on the back of

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the truck. So I had my highlights on and it's

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so dark because you can see the cars coming from

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a distance. Then you just back your lights off so

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you're not blinding them. I didn't know until later that

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the area where I was at I was going to

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be entering into is actually called the Narrows. So the

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roads are only eight foot roads, very little shoulder on

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each side. One side is a canyon wall that goes

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straight up the other side is the guardrail that goes

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down on the mountain side right there.

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So I was.

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Driving and you have to watch out for deer and stuff,

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because I've been through there where you come out of

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that tunnel and then there's this deer standing right there

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and they're going fifty miles an hour. So my truck

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was such that it goes you can put it in

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one or two. That truck had it where you could

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put it in gear number two. I just let the

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weight of the vehicle go, so I was just cruising,

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foot off the gas, foot off the brake, going through

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the tunnel, going down the hill.

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Everything was fine.

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I came to an area and they've done some construction

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to the area with barriers and the road signs and

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things like this now. But it had a twenty mile

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an hour curve. There was no flashing light, but there's

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a flashing light there now. And as I was watching,

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I was looking at my lights because my truck, even

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though it was a four wheel drive.

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It sat like this, so it wasn't up and lifted

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or anything. It was like this.

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It was a tow truck kind of And so when

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I had my highlights on, they went up higher and

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out further. So I was driving and I was watching

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my lights as they went through the guardrail on the side,

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and they were projecting the shadows onto the trees. So

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I was just going through there and ice and slow.

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My foot wasn't on the break or on the gas

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for nothing. I was just coasting, maybe about twelve miles

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an hour. As I came around the corner, I was

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watching the projected shadows up on the mountain or on

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the side there. All of a sudden, I saw this

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just huge giant shadow. And then I followed it back

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immediately to the roadside, and right there in front of

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me was this giant thing. And I'm looking at it.

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And the first thing I thought in my mind, because

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it was it was huge, I thought to myself, giant gorilla.

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That's the first pot thought that popped in my head,

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was giant gorilla.

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Then I looked and I was watching him walk, and

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I said, no, it can't be a gorilla. And there's

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a number of reasons for that. But the first one

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was is he was walking too upright, he was too straight.

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And as he was walking, I went, oh, so that's

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what he looks like. So I go, that's what the

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sasquatch is. That's the first thought that went on in

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my head. Now I had probably about maybe about seven seconds,

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six seven seconds where I got to just take it

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all in. So there was things that I noted in

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my mind right away because I was probably about eighty.

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Eighty feet from him or so, but he was right there.

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And the first thing I noticed that his head was

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between his shoulders because his shoulders were so huge and massive.

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The color was i'll call it dark charcoal smoky gray,

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and he wasn't completely covered in hair. It looked like

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the real thick hair up here on his shoulders, neck

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and upper body was like what she would think of

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like a lama. It was real thick and long like that,

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and it was kind of mangy looking. And then he

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had no hair on his bicep tricep area, and then

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it started at his elbows and went over his hands.

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His hands went down almost to his knees. I saw

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him swinging his hands. I got to see him take.

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I counted the steps with his right foot. I saw

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his right foot come up three times as he was walking,

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and he had bare butt cheeks. I saw his bare

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butt cheeks he had. His hair went down the middle

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of his back like a lion. It vied down his back,

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and his back was just huge. He had bare latch.

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The sides of his back had no hair on him

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at all. He had bare butt cheeks. I could se

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hair off of his hips as I got closer to him,

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and then his upper thighs were bare too, and he

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had hair that was on him. But then as soon

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as it got to his knees, it was like his elbows.

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From his elbows down over his hands covered his hands.

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Then it was from his knees and it covered his feet.

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But I saw it when his foot come up. When

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his foot come up, I could see the bottom of

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his foot. And when his hands swung there was a

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unique swing in his arm because his arm went forward

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a certain way, but when his hand came back, his

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wrist turned a certain way.

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It was weird.

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It had a little curl to it, kind of like.

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So his hands were going in the in the walk.

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And the thing that I noticed was as I took

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it all in, is that when he wasn't completely covered

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in hair, what I saw, if you want to call

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it hide or skin, it was kind of like think

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fit for a minute. When you looked at the Lord

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of the Rings and they had the orcs, their skin

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was kind of like smooth, but it wasn't smooth royally.

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It was kind of like like a.

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Like a buffalo hide kind of like or something like

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you know, it was that, but I don't know if

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it was it was little fur on it or if

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it was scanner or whatever it was. But on his back,

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I saw these like, uh, scab things like they were black.

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His palms were black. Bottoms of his feet were black,

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like a dark dark charcoal black almost.

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And his foot didn't have an end step.

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He didn't have like we have a figure eight almost

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in our foot and endstep look a giant moccasin almost.

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And you could see his foot when it come up.

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So he picks his foot up differently than we do too,

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because when I was watching him walk, his leg came

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up and I could see his foot didn't go back

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and then back a certain way it went like a step,

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and then it went and it kind of picked up funny,

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it was different. So I was watching him walk and

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I'm driving and my jaw is just like like this.

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So I'm looking. Well, on my truck, I had running

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board lights on the side, I had cab lights on

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the front. I had lights on the wheel well two,

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and then there were lights across the back of the

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tailgate too. So when I drove up next to him,

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he wasn't startled. He didn't try to avoid me or

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run away or nothing. He just walked. So as I'm driving,

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I'm just like, I'm like holding the wheel and looking.

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I'm really astonished and amazed, and I'm just looking at him.

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So as I'm coming up next to him, and I

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go like this, and I look up out the window,

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I see how big he is. The muscles in his

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back when I was there looking at him, they were

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almost like the hunchback and ore Dame, because you look

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at the muscles, these are trapezias, and you've got your trapezoids,

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You've got your muscles in the back. And then his

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lats very thin, tiny waist. His legs were one third

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of his body size. So from his hips up he

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went up like a big V and he was at

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least two thirds that upper body was his entire size,

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so his shoulders were just huge. He was probably at

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least close to maybe four and a half to five

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feet wide. He had no neck because the muscles were

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so big. But I could see a little head on

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the top to where it was between his shoulders. But

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as I drove past him, I was looking. I was

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looking up. I mean I was straighting to look up

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at him. Now, the truck wasn't like my new truck.

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Now I have a.

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Newer trucks that's lifted a little bit and it has

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the horsepower. But as I was driving, I looked up

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at him. He didn't turn a look at me or nothing.

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I just looked at him. So his arms looked long

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and skinny like a basketball player. I'm six foot two.

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I can touch eight foot two ceiling. No big deal.

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I've played against seven footers in basketball because I've been

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this big since I was fifteen. My coach in high

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school was six foot nine. He was a second string

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the center for the Chicago Bulls. I played down the

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Los Angeles area, so I know height pretty well. And

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I used to be in the military, so I was

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an officer in the military. Too, So I'm very good

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with the observation, and you can tell I might be

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a little bit over descriptive on some things, but.

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People tell me that. So as I drove past him

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and looked, I looked.

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Up at him, I was really kind of scared, to

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be honest with you. I was amazed, astonished, and just

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like going, wow, this is just unreal time kind of

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almost stopped and stood still as I kind of coasted

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past him, going what the heck is that?

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You know?

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And when I drove past him, I could tell you

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more about what I saw.

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But when I drove past him, I said.

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Around and around and around and around. I want to

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see it looks like from the front with my lights

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on him, you know. But I was scared because right there,

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this immediate s turns and it went into a little

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curve right there, and I couldn't make a three point turn.

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There's no way it would have been like a five

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point turn. And I was scared because as I drove

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past him, I was looking in the mirror at him too.

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So I looked in the mirror to look at him,

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and I didn't really think about it until I started

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pondering a little bit more. I don't know if it

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was the uh, the reflection of the tail lights. I

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didn't step on the brakes or nothing, but the lights

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and the lights across the tailgate were on and it

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shined up on him, and the lights on the side

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were orange, so he was orange. When I drove past

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him this way, he was all lit up, kind of orange.

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When I drove past him and looked in the back,

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his eyes did glow. The color of him is what

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I would call like fire orange or like fire red,

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kind of almost, because they were orangish red kind of like.

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And I don't know if it was the reflection so

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much of my lights. I don't think it was a reflection,

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but I saw it was. His eyes were orange orangish red.

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He didn't pursue me or nothing like that, but I

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was afraid that maybe he would, because where I went

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into the s turn, he could have run, come down

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and then got across and then been right in front

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of me because I was coming back in an stern

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kind of light. So I was looking to turn around,

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and I'm going here here, and I didn't.

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Know what to do.

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So at that immediate point, as you come around that bend,

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it squeezes even more narrow and goes into this thing

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that wiggles back and forth like this, and that's scary

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because it climbs a little bit. And that's where I've

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seen the trucks come flying through their times. And I said,

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don't try to make a don't turn around here because

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you could get t bone, because those trucks come through

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there pretty fast sometimes. And so I was looking for

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a place to pull out to turn around, and I

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finally got to a point where I was at I

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saw an actual road that I could go on, and

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it was Little Jones Creek, and I said, well, don't

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because you've driven too far. It's too late. You've got

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to be satisfied with these You didn't get a chance

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to turn him and see him. And more likely, if

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you do turn around and go back, try to look

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for him, he might not be there. But once you

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get to the point where you think you saw him,

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if you turn around then come back, maybe he's going

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to be in the middle of the road right there

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and he's going to confront you. And the size of

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this thing was such that it would have it could

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have easily ripped the truck door off, no problem. He

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could have pushed the truck over the side of the

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mountain if he wanted to too, even though it was

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pretty heavy old one.

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It's just it was huge. So when I drove past

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him at.

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The closest point, I was maybe about eight feet from him.

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And when I drove past him, those long, thin, skinny

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arms that I thought looked like basketball player arms, they

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really weren't skinny at all. They were big. And his chest,

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his chest was up close to his chin, he was

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his chest was huge. And from the profile of him,

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I saw how his chest was just huge and it

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was bare. I could see hair, but I saw a

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lot of skin there too. Then I saw his ribs,

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then his stomach sunk in to his waist. So he

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didn't have a quarter on the fat the muscles on

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this thing, if you want to call it Arnold Schwarzenegger.

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But he was super super lean, and his biceps weren't

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bulky around like the Mister America Universe guys. They weren't

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round and bulky. They were just long and thick. He

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was just monstrous. So the view from the side was

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is that his head went back, It sloped back like

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this a little bit. It had like hair missing. He

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did have wherever he call it a furrowed brow where

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his eyes were. He kept looking straight. He didn't have

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a gorilla nose or nothing. It was human type nose,

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and it was it was, it was. It was big

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and wide.

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He had hair that started to grow off of his

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off of his mouth on the side there. He didn't

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have a mustache. He had like the wolverine thing.

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Kind of like going on, but it was all up

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here in his body, and the hair on his arms

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where it was h it got to his shoulders and stopped.

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And his shoulders were like giant watermelons. They were huge.

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His trapvious and back muscles were so pronounced. He tapered

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into v tiny waist. I saw his butt crack. I

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saw hair hanging down from his groin area. I didn't

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see any any genital or nothing like that, but I

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did see hair hanging down there.

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So I was just thinking back on it. It was

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about as rare as rare it could be. It was

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very strange to me. I was new to the area.

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I you know, what do you do? I was the

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mountain passed there, Like I told you, it was scary.

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There's one section not even too far from there where

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you're getting over to Patrick's Creek. When you go through

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the pass and the roadway there, you got to watch out.

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The truck'll almost hit you. And there's a rock there

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where there's a shelf hanging above your head, and there's

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a little tree grown off of it right there. It's

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about as if you want to call it, that squatchy

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as it could be, and it's it's all granite. The

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river is right there. I don't know where he came from.

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His hair looked like he could have just got up

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from laying in the in the leaves, you know. I

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didn't see any leaves in his hair or nothing, but

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his hair was all kind of wispy and wavey, kind

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of liked, but it was just very unkept. So I

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went home. My son was there. I didn't say nothing

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to him. I went to the next morning. I told

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one of my coworkers who's a fisherman and a hunter

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who's been up here for it, had been up here

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like twenty eight years and he's gotten multiple elk beer

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bears fished out in the ocean on the river forever.

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And he was part part Native American because of his grandparents.

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And when I told him, he just didn't say nothing.

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He just stared at me like I was nuts, and

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he didn't say anything, didn't acknowledge it, didn't feedback or anything.

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And.

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So it was kind of like I was looked upon, like, oh,

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you've been up here seven months and you've already seen

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a sasquash, you know. And the thing of it was,

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I just shut up and didn't say nothing anymore because

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it was little element or ridicule. And I got to

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the point over time, or I did mention it to

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some people, and it got to the point where over

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time I eventually met someone that I married, and when

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she was going with me through the mountain, passed come

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over here for medical and dental services and stuff. I

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just mentioned to her, says, you know, hey, I saw

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hosquatch coming up on the road right here, and I

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showed her where it was, and she started peppering me

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with questions, and she asked, she goes, well, how big

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was he? I told her, and I go she goes,

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did he have a neck? And I said not really?

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And she was going back and forth and she goes,

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you really did see him, didn't this? I said, yeah,

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I'm not just saying it, you know, so I've done research.

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We've gone out looking quite a bit. I've gotten on

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onto the reservation. I've actually gotten into the snow where

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I found footprints in the snow and took some pictures.

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It's not too far from where the Patterson Gimblin film

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has been. We've been to a few conferences. I've got

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to share my story and experience at a couple places.

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One place, I think it was, yeah, one place.

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And I've met some of the different figures in the

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Bigfoot community where they've.

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Spoken at these places and I talked with them.

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I got doctor Meldrum to autograph a replica of Patty's footprint.

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We've been over to Bluff Creek a number of times,

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Willow Creek, hiked around. I made an initial report a

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few years afterwards to the BFRO and there was no

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acknowledging of nothing. I waited a couple of months, and

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then I contacted him again. They finally got back with me.

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They asked for some specifics, and I gave him an

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actual pinpoint on the Google Maps Google World, I think

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it was. I gave him a little pin, a red

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pin dot, and next thing you know, I heard him

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talking about it on one of the podcasts, and apparently

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when I first passed him up and I went into

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the turn right there, in that immediate turn, there's a creek.

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That comes off the mountain and it's called Monkey Creek.

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So apparently James Buffet had an incident up on the

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mountain on the top up there, because we've been up

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there where he did an Ohio yell and it sounded

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like three of them came from a mile away, and

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the scared his girlfriend so bad she said, you get

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me out of here now.

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So my fiance was with me.

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We went out and we went looking and.

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It's kind of eerie out there.

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So I don't know if it's real or true or not,

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but she said that when we were driving out, the

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windows were down. She said that she heard woolfs something

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like this to us, and she goes, there's no dogs,

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and I heard wolfs, So I don't know. You know,

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sometimes people get a squatch fever where there's a sasquatch

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under every every leaf and every tree. So, like I said,

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as I started talking about it at work, there were

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some Native American friends that I talked to that sort

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of tell me about their experiences and how they'd seen him,

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and the similarities were just amazing, and that's what got

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me to go and look. So we've been in some

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areas where they've seen him quite a bit. I've read

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a lot of books since then. Some of the books

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are from David Plaid's and the Missing four one one.

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One of them is the Tribal Bigfoot and the hoop

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of Project. But he had some more witnesses, and one

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of the witnesses I found out in the area. I

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saw what I saw in two thousand and six of February,

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and then the next summer of two thousand and seven,

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a truck driver was there and I believe he saw

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the same one. I've talked to him about it since,

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but he's never confirmed with me the color things like this.

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He's just an interesting guy. He's seen him twice up

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here in the same vicinity. And the picture was drawn.

463
00:24:58.519 --> 00:25:02.039
I've met Harvey Pratt. I showed Harvey a picture of

464
00:25:02.079 --> 00:25:06.640
what I drew. Someone someone at work, Native American inmate

465
00:25:07.599 --> 00:25:10.039
talked to me one time in Level one and he said, Doug,

466
00:25:10.079 --> 00:25:13.640
you should sketch your sketch of what you think it

467
00:25:13.640 --> 00:25:15.440
looked like. So I did a little sketch of it.

468
00:25:16.680 --> 00:25:19.400
And when I showed up to Harvey Pratt, Harvey said,

469
00:25:19.440 --> 00:25:21.160
you got that right, and I go, what do you mean?

470
00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:25.160
He goes, they have a cape. So Harvey says, that's

471
00:25:25.200 --> 00:25:27.880
what happens. You think of it. It's like a one

472
00:25:27.880 --> 00:25:29.519
of the Viking coats that they wear.

473
00:25:29.720 --> 00:25:32.200
You know. It's all airy, like a buffalo or something,

474
00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:33.480
you know, big old.

475
00:25:33.480 --> 00:25:35.839
Mangy thing kind of like coming down and then it

476
00:25:35.920 --> 00:25:38.480
papered down and then his back was bare and it

477
00:25:38.519 --> 00:25:41.400
came in like a lion where a bead down his back,

478
00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:42.480
down the middle of his spine.

479
00:25:43.799 --> 00:25:50.640
So, uh, when I drove past him, his mouth was

480
00:25:50.680 --> 00:25:51.400
open like this.

481
00:25:52.319 --> 00:25:56.000
He was walking like that, and I couldn't really see

482
00:25:56.000 --> 00:25:58.200
his teeth, but I'd imagined they were kind of grungey.

483
00:25:58.240 --> 00:26:00.000
Maybe I'm guessing, I don't know.

484
00:26:00.839 --> 00:26:03.759
But he just walked and his mouth was down on

485
00:26:03.799 --> 00:26:06.480
the sides like this. He had hair out the side

486
00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:09.240
there and he just walked. But like I said, his

487
00:26:09.400 --> 00:26:15.880
chest was huge, his arms, his arms were huge, so

488
00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:19.279
guessing height twise, if.

489
00:26:19.119 --> 00:26:21.720
I was outside of my truck, I would have had

490
00:26:21.799 --> 00:26:22.559
a hard time.

491
00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:25.200
I wouldn't have been able to have jumped and touched

492
00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:28.039
the top of his head, and when I was younger,

493
00:26:28.039 --> 00:26:30.279
I could touch my elbows on the rim, I bumped

494
00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:31.519
my shoulder on the backboard.

495
00:26:31.519 --> 00:26:32.599
I've had my head in the net.

496
00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:35.160
I can jump really high, but I'm older now I

497
00:26:35.160 --> 00:26:38.640
can't jump like that anymore. But I guessed he had

498
00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:41.200
to be at least between nine foot six and about

499
00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:43.640
ten foot four somewhere in there. About ten feet I

500
00:26:43.640 --> 00:26:47.880
guess was. And when I looked at him, because his

501
00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:51.319
legs were kind of like a frog leg they were

502
00:26:51.319 --> 00:26:54.839
frog legs, kind of like they were very lean, very muscular,

503
00:26:54.880 --> 00:26:58.000
but they weren't bulky. From what I saw from the

504
00:26:58.039 --> 00:27:01.720
back with his butt cheeks. I guessed his weight originally

505
00:27:01.759 --> 00:27:03.799
about maybe about six hundred pounds.

506
00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:04.839
I wasn't sure.

507
00:27:05.799 --> 00:27:08.079
But I've got friends that are about an inch bigger

508
00:27:08.079 --> 00:27:10.440
than me that weigh like four hundred pounds, and they're big,

509
00:27:10.480 --> 00:27:12.039
they're strong men.

510
00:27:12.240 --> 00:27:14.680
But you touch them when they're squishy.

511
00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:19.359
So I do know that muscle weighs, more so looking

512
00:27:19.400 --> 00:27:21.440
about it at it now and being a little more

513
00:27:21.480 --> 00:27:29.359
critical in my in my process of thinking the uh,

514
00:27:29.400 --> 00:27:31.440
the weight of this thing had to be between eight

515
00:27:31.519 --> 00:27:35.319
hundred and one thousand or more pounds. Easy, because he

516
00:27:35.440 --> 00:27:42.440
was over ten foot tall muscles were just amazing. His feet,

517
00:27:42.519 --> 00:27:44.759
like I said, were black. I didn't see thee instep.

518
00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:47.759
It was like a moccasin. His fingers were long, but

519
00:27:47.799 --> 00:27:50.039
the hair actually covered his hands, and I only saw

520
00:27:50.039 --> 00:27:52.519
his hands when they did this little twist and turn

521
00:27:52.640 --> 00:27:54.680
coming back, so.

522
00:27:56.839 --> 00:27:59.039
It'd be nice to Yeah, it was like a it's

523
00:27:59.079 --> 00:28:01.279
like a It just turned funny.

524
00:28:01.519 --> 00:28:04.680
And then when I mentioned it to my friend about

525
00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:07.119
my experience, he was telling me he saw the same

526
00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:10.160
thing when he was hunting. One cut across the front

527
00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:12.599
of his truck, and he said, and he actually mimicked

528
00:28:12.839 --> 00:28:15.640
the movement of the arms, and I go, that's how

529
00:28:15.640 --> 00:28:17.240
his hand turned like to me. He goes, yeah, it

530
00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:21.759
turns funky in his wrist. So the one that he

531
00:28:21.839 --> 00:28:25.039
saw was the color of our caterpillar. It was black

532
00:28:25.079 --> 00:28:28.160
and red like an orange. And he goes, it's like

533
00:28:28.160 --> 00:28:32.799
the color of our caterpillar. So listen to different people

534
00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:40.599
talk in this area. My wife worked in a business

535
00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:43.640
where she knew someone that had been one of the

536
00:28:43.680 --> 00:28:46.119
male couriers up the mountain side up in the Back

537
00:28:46.200 --> 00:28:49.359
River area, and she was up there early in the morning,

538
00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:52.759
like three thirty four o'clock delivering mail or newspapers or something,

539
00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:55.240
and there was a big white one that poked his

540
00:28:55.240 --> 00:28:57.359
head inside of her door one time and scared the

541
00:28:57.400 --> 00:28:58.119
daylights out of her.

542
00:28:58.200 --> 00:28:58.720
So she quit.

543
00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:04.279
And so this whole area up here is known for it.

544
00:29:05.559 --> 00:29:10.759
I've heard all sorts of stories, you know. Not too

545
00:29:10.759 --> 00:29:13.799
long ago, they put out an announcement saying, hey, if

546
00:29:13.839 --> 00:29:16.839
you've got some parabolic mics and recording devices and stuff,

547
00:29:16.839 --> 00:29:17.920
we've got an account.

548
00:29:18.400 --> 00:29:19.839
We're on this one hiking trail.

549
00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:25.839
They didn't give specifics because sometimes everybody is like after

550
00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:30.039
proprietary things. Everybody wants to be the person with the badge.

551
00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:34.039
And look what I discovered, you know, that's not me.

552
00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:38.680
To me, I don't know what it is, Okay. I

553
00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:41.319
never had any experience of thinking about it.

554
00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:42.079
When I was in.

555
00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:45.519
High school back in the seventies in our drive and

556
00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:48.799
we were all standing around and watching the movie in

557
00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:51.799
high school and it was the Patterson Gillman film on

558
00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:55.720
the screen, and a friend of mine since grade school says, oh, look,

559
00:29:55.759 --> 00:29:58.160
this proves evolution looking there, and I'm like going, you know,

560
00:29:58.400 --> 00:30:03.119
and I've never I never bought into you know, that

561
00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:05.359
we come from monkeys and stuff like that, you know,

562
00:30:05.759 --> 00:30:09.240
billions of years and it's lime plus time and there

563
00:30:09.279 --> 00:30:11.680
you are. You know, it's from me to you via

564
00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:17.000
the zoo. You know, I never thought that. So it

565
00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:21.079
didn't look like Patty. It looked different.

566
00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:21.799
It was.

567
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:28.599
It was very big, very muscular. It was monstrous. He's huge.

568
00:30:28.880 --> 00:30:32.920
And uh but the hair was interesting. The hair was

569
00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:36.680
really neat, and like I said, it was different than

570
00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:40.039
ours because even though it was thick up here, down

571
00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:41.920
off of his hips, when I drove past him, you

572
00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:44.359
could see they were long and they were like thicker

573
00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:48.680
and it was like I wouldn't call it like you know,

574
00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:51.160
a sea, an enemy or nothing like that, but they

575
00:30:51.279 --> 00:30:54.279
stuck out longer on the side. And then he had

576
00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:57.880
these pock marks on his back that were like maybe

577
00:30:57.960 --> 00:31:02.039
he'd gotten hurt or shot or stuck with a with

578
00:31:02.200 --> 00:31:05.039
elkhorn or something. Who knows, I don't know, but they

579
00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:08.319
were they were black like scabby things on his back

580
00:31:09.279 --> 00:31:12.519
and his skin was smooth. But like I said, he

581
00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:14.440
even had some of those little black things on his

582
00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:15.000
butt cheeks.

583
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:19.920
I saw, I saw his spot. It's bear and uh,

584
00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:21.799
so there you go.

585
00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:27.440
If you have any questions, absolutely, oh my goodness, this

586
00:31:27.599 --> 00:31:31.720
is probably one of the most detailed accounts I've heard,

587
00:31:31.880 --> 00:31:36.279
and it's fantastic. Uh, just it's incredible that you're able

588
00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:39.920
to to remember all those details. Hats off to you.

589
00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:44.640
I did want to. I looked up big Foot Mapping

590
00:31:44.680 --> 00:31:49.119
Project real quick, and it looks like in that very

591
00:31:49.160 --> 00:31:52.960
similar area where you're talking about. Uh, there was also

592
00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:58.319
another because did you ever talk to Daniel Perez, I've

593
00:31:58.359 --> 00:31:59.599
heard for a newspaper.

594
00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:00.880
I've never talk with them.

595
00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:04.119
There was somebody Willow Creek that that I tried to

596
00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:07.079
talk to that got real nasty with me on the

597
00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:07.960
internet one time.

598
00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:12.000
So well that's not good. Sorry about that, whoever that is.

599
00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:16.160
But this is on Bigfoot Encounters dot com. And it

600
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:23.160
sounds like on September twenty second. This isn't two thousand

601
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:29.119
and five, so I mean same similar timeframe. And there

602
00:32:29.279 --> 00:32:32.680
was a trucker that had a sighting of one that

603
00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:36.720
he said was about eight foot tall, about eight hundred pounds,

604
00:32:36.759 --> 00:32:40.039
So very very interesting that that area sounds like it

605
00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:44.640
is just extremely active, which you know, we definitely already.

606
00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:48.519
Most listeners would be like, oh yeah, del North County

607
00:32:48.519 --> 00:32:50.920
for sure, but like to know a specific area like

608
00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:54.160
this where you know and you talked about Boba was

609
00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:58.119
encounter as well, which was very very cool, But I

610
00:32:58.160 --> 00:33:02.240
do have some specific questions four you dog as well.

611
00:33:03.880 --> 00:33:06.440
Did you notice anything about the shape of the head itself.

612
00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:12.359
It was kind of comical from what I could see.

613
00:33:12.119 --> 00:33:14.039
From the distance, but I don't know if that was

614
00:33:14.119 --> 00:33:16.799
because of the way it was positioned within his muscles

615
00:33:16.799 --> 00:33:21.039
in his back. It was low, his back was so wide,

616
00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:23.119
his shoulders were so broad that all of a sudden, I.

617
00:33:23.079 --> 00:33:25.000
Saw this little peak at the top like this. On

618
00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:26.039
my hand, it's like that.

619
00:33:26.880 --> 00:33:31.119
When I drove past, my head was round, but his

620
00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:33.680
head went back, like I said, his forehead went back

621
00:33:33.720 --> 00:33:36.319
like this, and he had a receding hairline, and then

622
00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:38.640
his hair went into his shoulders right up here. So

623
00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:44.400
it was all real big like that. So, like I said,

624
00:33:44.440 --> 00:33:47.319
his jaw was like that, It was down here, and

625
00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:50.519
he was just walking. He was up straight, but it

626
00:33:50.599 --> 00:33:52.839
seemed like he was leaning forward a little bit, you know,

627
00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:56.599
not a whole lot, but he wasn't slouched forward. So

628
00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:02.759
the interesting thing, like I said, was the ratio of

629
00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:05.559
legs to upper body, because his upper body from his

630
00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:08.280
butt up was huge.

631
00:34:11.119 --> 00:34:15.079
Which is really some of your details, well all the details,

632
00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:17.679
but some of them specifically are really cool to hear,

633
00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:20.920
like the one you just pointed out, and also how

634
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:23.880
it was lifting its foot off the ground, really really

635
00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:27.400
cool stuff to hear. Could you see any ears at all?

636
00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:28.880
Were there any present ears?

637
00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:31.440
Not that I could see because the hair was all

638
00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:32.079
up that way.

639
00:34:33.639 --> 00:34:41.639
Okay, you mentioned there were like weird scab like things

640
00:34:41.719 --> 00:34:45.719
on more on the back. How big were those scabs?

641
00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:47.719
Were they small or large or.

642
00:34:47.920 --> 00:34:50.679
Noticeable right away from when I saw them from about

643
00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:53.159
eighty feet and I was just traveling about maybe I

644
00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:56.360
was maybe going twelve to fifteen sixteen miles an hour.

645
00:34:57.400 --> 00:35:01.960
It says on the sign they're twenty, but uh, I

646
00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:04.199
wasn't going that fast around the corner. But when as

647
00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:07.679
soon as I saw him and looked, it was that

648
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:09.559
you could see him. There was there was a couple

649
00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:10.960
of them. There was a big one on the right

650
00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:16.039
side in his lat area. But there was other ones too,

651
00:35:16.119 --> 00:35:17.800
not a whole lot, but there was a big one

652
00:35:18.360 --> 00:35:25.320
in his lat area on his right side. So I

653
00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:32.719
don't know what it was. And if I say it

654
00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:35.239
that his skin was skin, but it was like it

655
00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:39.119
was hide. It was like, like I said, it wasn't

656
00:35:39.159 --> 00:35:41.519
smooth it was weird. It was different than ours. It

657
00:35:41.639 --> 00:35:44.880
was like a like you would think I've never seen

658
00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:48.079
a rhino up close or an elephant. You know, I

659
00:35:48.079 --> 00:35:54.280
don't know if it can't puncture it or whatever, but uh,

660
00:35:54.320 --> 00:36:00.760
just it was weird. And like I said, there were

661
00:36:01.039 --> 00:36:02.000
a couple of little ones.

662
00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:03.639
I don't know if they were moles. You know, they

663
00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:04.800
could have been moles.

664
00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:08.280
Or something, right, because I saw some similar ones on

665
00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:09.119
his butcheets.

666
00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:13.480
His butt was tiny, and his butt was very lean.

667
00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:16.920
Everything his legs were sinewy kind of if you want

668
00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:20.960
to put it that way. And then his bicyp tricep

669
00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:24.239
area was as big as the length of my thigh.

670
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:27.079
I'm six foot two, so I don't know how long

671
00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:28.159
everything is here.

672
00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:30.719
But but when I drove past him and I saw

673
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:32.280
these long basketball arms.

674
00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:34.440
But when I saw the long basketball arms, they were

675
00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:39.360
they were big and it was a long muscle. And

676
00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:42.679
but his forearms were I'll put it. I forgot to

677
00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:47.039
tell you this. His forearms were popeye forearms. I didn't

678
00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:50.000
know if it was because of the hair, but his

679
00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:53.800
forearms were flipping huge. Compared to like I said, it

680
00:36:53.880 --> 00:36:57.000
was like, think of it like shaven a poodle like it.

681
00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:00.480
You know, they got the His bicyp trice was like

682
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:02.119
lean and skinny and nothing.

683
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:03.440
Then all of a.

684
00:37:03.320 --> 00:37:07.880
Sudden, he had these big, old popeye forearms that were

685
00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:08.559
covered in hair.

686
00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:12.519
Those were those were monstrous. Those his forearms were monstrous.

687
00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:16.480
And then the Indians told me that the reason they

688
00:37:16.519 --> 00:37:20.119
wear those those boots, like those fuzzy type it was

689
00:37:20.159 --> 00:37:23.239
like an it's not al paka, it's an angora goat

690
00:37:23.320 --> 00:37:26.519
or on goora sheet, whatever it is. They wear those

691
00:37:26.599 --> 00:37:30.280
boots because those are ceremonial boots because they're doing their dance,

692
00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:34.360
you know, and they're in replication in a sense.

693
00:37:34.119 --> 00:37:35.039
Of the hairy man.

694
00:37:36.199 --> 00:37:39.719
And okay, that's what his legs look like too, because

695
00:37:39.719 --> 00:37:41.760
the hair started to grow right about his knees and

696
00:37:41.800 --> 00:37:45.480
then it covered his whole leg and it went over

697
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:47.880
his foot. I couldn't see anything because it was like

698
00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:51.199
the hair touched the ground and when his foot came up,

699
00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:53.480
all you saw was the bottom of his foot.

700
00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:56.599
And like I said, it was big. It was real big.

701
00:37:56.679 --> 00:38:03.519
I wear size fifteen and his foot was it was huge.

702
00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:07.360
So did it kind of look like almost like hairy

703
00:38:07.400 --> 00:38:08.360
bell bottoms then?

704
00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:12.320
Or yeah, well it was his hair was.

705
00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:16.000
Real if you want to call it shaggy, but it

706
00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:18.239
was just it was. It was mangy, kind of like

707
00:38:18.239 --> 00:38:19.800
I said, when when he when I looked at him

708
00:38:19.800 --> 00:38:21.360
and I was driving past him, and I was so

709
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:25.239
from a distance, you'd have felt like he had there's

710
00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:27.159
a chance that he had just come up from the

711
00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:29.840
river right there, because I've been back to that spot

712
00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:33.119
number of times and right there there's a pullout and

713
00:38:33.159 --> 00:38:35.039
there's an area that goes right down to the river

714
00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:37.719
right there, but it's pretty rough. You try going down,

715
00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:42.440
good luck getting back up where he came from. And

716
00:38:42.480 --> 00:38:44.800
why he was walking on the road, I don't know.

717
00:38:45.960 --> 00:38:49.239
But his hair looked it was mangy and nasty. It

718
00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:53.400
was thick and clumpy. And you know, I've heard reports

719
00:38:53.400 --> 00:38:55.320
of people saying how some of them glisten in the

720
00:38:55.360 --> 00:38:58.199
sunlight or the whatever, and they look very very well

721
00:38:58.280 --> 00:38:59.679
groomed and things like that.

722
00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:04.039
He wasn't groomed at all. He was pretty mangy.

723
00:39:04.239 --> 00:39:06.800
So if you want to look it up, if you

724
00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:10.039
look up, it's called gigantopithecus.

725
00:39:10.079 --> 00:39:12.320
I don't think they're a gigantopithecus. I don't know.

726
00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:16.800
If you look up Gigantopithecus tropical on a Google search.

727
00:39:17.719 --> 00:39:20.920
You'll see in images right there there's a there's a

728
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:24.400
pencil drawing and there's a tropical on the left. There's

729
00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:27.840
a Gigantopithecus blackie in the middle. Then there's a six

730
00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:30.960
foot man right next to him. The one on the

731
00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:34.960
left looks like exactly almost like what I saw. Turn

732
00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:38.719
him around, make him about two feet taller and wider,

733
00:39:39.239 --> 00:39:42.280
and that's what it looks like, almost almost.

734
00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:43.920
It's a good, good depiction of it.

735
00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:46.840
But he had the face of the blackie because his

736
00:39:46.960 --> 00:39:49.599
nose wasn't upturned like an ape nose.

737
00:39:49.719 --> 00:39:52.599
It was flat, wide, broad human type nose.

738
00:39:53.719 --> 00:39:56.760
And the six foot man there, if you have him

739
00:39:56.800 --> 00:39:59.320
raised his hand up and look, the one that I

740
00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:01.679
saw was a lot taller than the one you see.

741
00:40:01.480 --> 00:40:02.079
In that drawing.

742
00:40:03.199 --> 00:40:07.039
So, yeah, I found the exact one. It looks like.

743
00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:13.480
This is actually uh you can find this on bfro

744
00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:17.880
dot net. It's the big foot giganto theory and you

745
00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:20.440
can find the line line drawing on there. But yeah,

746
00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:23.280
so the one on the left, but with the face

747
00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:24.719
of the one on the middle.

748
00:40:24.559 --> 00:40:28.360
Yeah, and a lot taller and bigger, less hair, but

749
00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:30.960
like that, and it was more grungy kind of like.

750
00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:32.840
But to see how his shoulders are round it and

751
00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:35.400
he's standing there, kind of one that I had wasn't

752
00:40:35.400 --> 00:40:39.320
all round it. He was like I said, his chest

753
00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:40.440
was up here by his jaw.

754
00:40:41.039 --> 00:40:41.599
He was big.

755
00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:48.079
I'm just amazed. I was astonished, amazed. I'd love to

756
00:40:48.119 --> 00:40:51.440
see it again. But there's no moment of fright to

757
00:40:51.519 --> 00:40:54.239
it too, because I've heard different stories of different people.

758
00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:58.360
I'm told that they used to be called stone giants,

759
00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:01.960
the Nez Pierce Indians up in Montana and Idaho and

760
00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:04.400
the Canada area there. They called them stone giants because

761
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:07.440
they would rub up against him a tree and get

762
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:09.320
sap in their hair, and they'd go on the river

763
00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:10.400
bank and roll and get.

764
00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:11.519
Hair and rocks in their hair.

765
00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:16.199
And apparently when the French Canadians that were trappers came

766
00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:20.239
through there with rifles, they loved them and welcomed them

767
00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:24.559
because they had thundersticks. Because they were no longer a prey,

768
00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:28.960
they could actually defend themselves and no longer in a

769
00:41:29.000 --> 00:41:32.559
sense be cannibalized. And you know, I don't know, I'm

770
00:41:32.559 --> 00:41:35.960
not trying to cause any dispersion or just thoughts everybody

771
00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:37.920
talks about them. There's certain people to talk about them,

772
00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:41.000
how they look like they're your forest friends. And there's

773
00:41:41.000 --> 00:41:44.519
a lot of people up here that have had experiences

774
00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:46.559
with putting out food and different things like that.

775
00:41:46.599 --> 00:41:48.840
But other people, some folks don't want to talk about it.

776
00:41:48.880 --> 00:41:51.320
But one of the buddies that I know, he made

777
00:41:51.360 --> 00:41:53.960
a comment he said that one of his girlfriends years ago,

778
00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:58.519
her uncle was up here hunting and elk hunting, and

779
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:02.599
he had smelled something and turned and next thing you know,

780
00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:05.079
he woke up thirteen miles away in a puddle of

781
00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:07.199
water and his rifle was gone.

782
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:11.840
You know, these are some of the things that you

783
00:42:11.960 --> 00:42:12.840
hear around here.

784
00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:16.440
That was del Noork County as well.

785
00:42:16.599 --> 00:42:19.039
No, that was up in Curry County in southern Oregon,

786
00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:22.719
so that's where right there. Yeah, we cross over the border.

787
00:42:23.159 --> 00:42:26.880
So that's where I was a resident. I was with

788
00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:29.360
the Department Corrections for a number of years. I've been

789
00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:37.199
up here for about twenty years or so, lived in Oregon, relocated, So.

790
00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:43.000
Yeah, it'd be nice. I don't know.

791
00:42:43.199 --> 00:42:47.480
Some people say that that once that you've experienced it

792
00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:51.679
and known that they've you've seen them, there's some kind

793
00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:54.239
of connection where maybe you could see him again. I

794
00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:58.320
don't know. People have talked about where they've come from.

795
00:42:58.840 --> 00:42:59.440
I don't know.

796
00:43:01.400 --> 00:43:06.920
The DNA project is real interesting. I don't know. You know,

797
00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:11.559
I'm not the guy, uh I think of it now.

798
00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:16.079
Because I've listened to different podcasts that are all over

799
00:43:16.119 --> 00:43:19.159
the internet, and you get some amazing stories that are

800
00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:24.559
scary to death and some that are interesting. I just

801
00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:28.480
know from my experience, I was afraid that he could

802
00:43:28.559 --> 00:43:30.719
rip the door off my truck, that you'd never find

803
00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:32.000
me if they'd find my truck.

804
00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:38.239
You can't hurt this thing, okay.

805
00:43:40.679 --> 00:43:43.639
Honestly, there's people that talk about it where you're gonna

806
00:43:43.639 --> 00:43:46.000
shoot him from the side or do something and bag them,

807
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:49.199
and the government coming in and men in black or whatever.

808
00:43:49.320 --> 00:43:57.440
I don't know. My whole thing is we want to.

809
00:43:57.400 --> 00:44:01.440
Live somewhere where we can be out in the wilderness

810
00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:04.039
and maybe have a little hobby farm or something, you know,

811
00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:09.519
and if they come around, they come around. The story

812
00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:12.039
that I learned from the Native American that told me

813
00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:16.760
about it about drawing the picture. His name was Freddie,

814
00:44:17.239 --> 00:44:20.880
and he was over near Lake Tahoe at the reservation

815
00:44:21.000 --> 00:44:22.360
over there, and he saw him when he was a

816
00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:25.440
little boy, like nine years old. Him and his little

817
00:44:25.480 --> 00:44:29.159
brother and sister were walking home and there was a

818
00:44:29.199 --> 00:44:31.360
real big one over by an apple tree and it

819
00:44:31.480 --> 00:44:34.159
was pursuing them, but it had a limp, and they

820
00:44:34.199 --> 00:44:36.599
went to a neighbor on their way home to their

821
00:44:36.599 --> 00:44:39.400
house and got a ride home because the big monster

822
00:44:39.599 --> 00:44:42.039
was coming after him, and they could see him as

823
00:44:42.039 --> 00:44:45.840
they drove away. And they told me whether it's true

824
00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:47.800
or not, I don't know that I was chosen and

825
00:44:47.920 --> 00:44:50.480
allowed to see him at that time. I do know

826
00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:54.360
that it's very rare. It was quite an experience. I

827
00:44:54.400 --> 00:44:56.559
had a really hard time at that time. I had

828
00:44:56.599 --> 00:45:01.800
relocated and was going through a divorce. But the thing is,

829
00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:07.440
it was very unique. I've gone out many many times.

830
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:10.400
Like I said, after one of the first snows of

831
00:45:10.440 --> 00:45:13.239
ten inches, we were driving in the area where the

832
00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:16.960
Native American friend of mine has many sightings from his family.

833
00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:18.719
His family see him multiple times.

834
00:45:20.719 --> 00:45:22.960
I just stopped to use the restroom and I looked,

835
00:45:23.079 --> 00:45:24.679
and as I was walking over, I looked it and

836
00:45:24.760 --> 00:45:25.159
there it was.

837
00:45:25.199 --> 00:45:26.599
And I went over and I go those.

838
00:45:26.400 --> 00:45:28.519
Look like footprints, and I saw the toes in it,

839
00:45:29.079 --> 00:45:30.840
and it went off in two hundred yards in one

840
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:33.280
direction and it didn't come back. But it was ten

841
00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:36.199
inches of snow. It was the first snow of the

842
00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:39.800
year and it was ten inches in that area. And

843
00:45:40.119 --> 00:45:41.800
like I said, I wear a fifteen and it was

844
00:45:41.840 --> 00:45:44.199
bigger than my foot, but it had toes in it

845
00:45:44.199 --> 00:45:52.239
in the snow. So wow, it's a neat area. I'm

846
00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:55.800
told that if you just go out there, to go

847
00:45:55.840 --> 00:45:59.159
out there and camp, just camp and wear the same

848
00:45:59.239 --> 00:46:02.960
clothes every weekend, go out every weekend, and just can't

849
00:46:03.440 --> 00:46:06.639
because they'll make themselves known to you. My wife's afraid.

850
00:46:06.719 --> 00:46:09.639
She thinks they're gonna hurt us or throw something at us.

851
00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:12.480
And you know, I already have a crack in the windshield.

852
00:46:12.519 --> 00:46:15.519
I don't need any more damage on the vehicle. But uh,

853
00:46:18.159 --> 00:46:20.719
someone said that they will make themselves known to you,

854
00:46:21.239 --> 00:46:23.679
and I don't you know. To me, there's an element

855
00:46:23.719 --> 00:46:26.960
of fright and fear. And I've talked to different people

856
00:46:26.960 --> 00:46:30.719
that have had experiences where all of their electronic equipment

857
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:33.639
has just dyed, all the batteries die, and they check

858
00:46:33.679 --> 00:46:35.719
them before they go out, they get out there, they're done.

859
00:46:36.480 --> 00:46:38.920
People that have been have seen them put their hand

860
00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:40.360
against the tent and stuff like this.

861
00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:41.079
I don't know.

862
00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:44.119
All I know is one of the ladies that I

863
00:46:44.119 --> 00:46:46.639
spoke to told me that she was with someone who

864
00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:48.400
had been an army ranger and the guy had a

865
00:46:48.440 --> 00:46:51.920
lot of experience, and when it came right down to it,

866
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:53.599
he was just scared.

867
00:46:55.239 --> 00:46:56.320
Something less.

868
00:46:55.960 --> 00:46:58.920
He was scared to death and there's no way he

869
00:46:58.960 --> 00:47:01.679
would do anything because it just it's admitted a sense

870
00:47:01.679 --> 00:47:06.159
of fear to him. So whatever the powers are, I've

871
00:47:06.159 --> 00:47:08.719
listened to Ron Moore ahead and where they were camping,

872
00:47:08.760 --> 00:47:12.239
because that's where that's kind of where Fred's reservation is

873
00:47:12.360 --> 00:47:14.719
is near that area where Ron Moorehead was up in

874
00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:20.239
the mountains and recorded the Sierra Screams. So, like I said,

875
00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:23.320
I feel very fortunate to have had that experience to

876
00:47:23.360 --> 00:47:27.639
see him close. I don't make myself out to be

877
00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:29.800
any type of an expert or anything like that. I

878
00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:33.079
don't know, but at the same time I would I'd

879
00:47:33.079 --> 00:47:36.159
love to see him again, but you're not going to

880
00:47:36.199 --> 00:47:39.119
see him behind the cage in the glass where you

881
00:47:39.239 --> 00:47:39.840
feel safe.

882
00:47:40.519 --> 00:47:42.920
And I don't know.

883
00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:48.599
If it's such that because we traveled through that area

884
00:47:48.719 --> 00:47:51.039
quite a bit still. We even came through this morning

885
00:47:51.039 --> 00:47:53.320
for a dental appointment and we're on the lookout all

886
00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:56.760
the time. There's been some fires in the area, so

887
00:47:56.800 --> 00:47:58.119
it's just decimated it.

888
00:47:58.119 --> 00:47:59.960
It's just horribly burnt.

889
00:48:02.679 --> 00:48:11.639
But a lot of people have experiences that don't share them, so.

890
00:48:13.119 --> 00:48:13.880
That's part of it.

891
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:18.679
Oh yeah, one hundred percent. I would say probably half

892
00:48:18.719 --> 00:48:22.199
the stuff I hear is you're not going to hear

893
00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:25.039
on the show or it's it's just there's a lot

894
00:48:25.039 --> 00:48:30.159
of people that share off to the side. So living

895
00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:35.239
in southern Oregon for that time, there's so many weird

896
00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:37.719
things that happen in southern Oregon when it comes to bigfood,

897
00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:40.559
like that's where the really weird stuff happens. I feel,

898
00:48:41.400 --> 00:48:44.320
and you don't hear a lot from that area. Did

899
00:48:44.360 --> 00:48:47.960
you or were there any other accounts that you remember

900
00:48:48.000 --> 00:48:50.440
hearing over the years from Southern Oregon.

901
00:48:50.599 --> 00:48:51.440
Yeah.

902
00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:54.320
I was in a gym and one of the girls

903
00:48:54.360 --> 00:48:57.199
that was teaching in aerobic side class for the ladies

904
00:48:57.880 --> 00:49:00.639
I saw on the internet one time social media and

905
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:04.000
she had a picture of Bigfoot and I'm a believer

906
00:49:04.119 --> 00:49:06.719
on it. So I messaged her and I said, hey,

907
00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:09.559
you know, people started hearing about how I'd heard it.

908
00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:12.079
I'll tell you a couple and she says, oh yeah.

909
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:13.440
She says, it's fourth of July.

910
00:49:14.239 --> 00:49:16.599
There was one about nine feet tall walk through my

911
00:49:16.719 --> 00:49:19.400
yard right over here, you know, nine ten o'clock at night.

912
00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:22.519
She goes, I know it was a bigfoot, and then

913
00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:25.440
I'll just tell you my workout. Buddy was one of

914
00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:29.760
the three founding families of Brookings, Oregon. His great great

915
00:49:29.760 --> 00:49:32.679
grandfather had jumped off a Russian merchant ship up in

916
00:49:32.760 --> 00:49:37.480
Port Orford, Oregon, swam ashore in the cold water, hiked

917
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:40.679
down over two hundred miles and married into the Indian tribe.

918
00:49:41.519 --> 00:49:44.639
Now he's part of the tribe registered with him, and

919
00:49:44.679 --> 00:49:47.760
he's got red hair and freckles.

920
00:49:48.920 --> 00:49:50.599
Nice. One of the nicest guys you ever met in

921
00:49:50.639 --> 00:49:51.000
your life.

922
00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:55.400
His family owned a big, big ranch, nine thousand acres

923
00:49:55.559 --> 00:49:58.239
up here, and they'd split it when some of the

924
00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:01.440
family members decided to leave, so it's five thousand acres now.

925
00:50:02.320 --> 00:50:05.559
But uh, they were gold mining and all sorts of

926
00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:07.679
stuff up in the mountains and done different things. And

927
00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:09.679
he said to me one time, after I told him,

928
00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:14.159
I kept it to myself quite a long time, and

929
00:50:14.199 --> 00:50:16.840
you gotta get people up here kind of tight lip.

930
00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:20.000
They don't share a lot of stuff. So he'd told me,

931
00:50:20.039 --> 00:50:23.280
he goes, yeah, my dad's not one to exaggerate. But

932
00:50:23.360 --> 00:50:25.400
he had been working up off the river one time

933
00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:27.000
and he went down to the river to wash up

934
00:50:27.039 --> 00:50:31.239
his pans and his tools, and he smelled something really bad,

935
00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:33.519
and he got down to the river and started washing up,

936
00:50:33.559 --> 00:50:35.559
and he saw footprints in the river bank right there,

937
00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:36.320
and they were fresh.

938
00:50:37.119 --> 00:50:39.920
There was a big set and there was a little set.

939
00:50:40.239 --> 00:50:43.079
So he said to himself, there's.

940
00:50:42.920 --> 00:50:44.360
A big one and there's a little one. I better

941
00:50:44.360 --> 00:50:44.960
get out of here.

942
00:50:45.199 --> 00:50:53.480
So apparently there's some lady up near uh COO's Bay

943
00:50:53.639 --> 00:50:55.519
who's back in the hills there a little bit, and

944
00:50:55.559 --> 00:50:59.840
she she does some dogs and stuff, and uh I

945
00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:02.119
told that you want to talk to her because she's

946
00:51:02.159 --> 00:51:05.119
got stories. And then there's people here in Gaski, Oregon

947
00:51:05.320 --> 00:51:08.840
or Ghaski, California that have been around forever and they

948
00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:12.760
have stories. So when I was at work, I mentioned

949
00:51:12.760 --> 00:51:15.239
it to one of the guys at work and he said, well,

950
00:51:15.360 --> 00:51:18.440
he had a friend that was in Gaski that his

951
00:51:18.559 --> 00:51:20.320
daughter got up on time and she was in the

952
00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:23.480
kitchen looking out the kitchen window and getting a drink

953
00:51:23.480 --> 00:51:25.480
at the kitchen sink, and she looked out and there

954
00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:28.440
was a huge one that just walked across the yard.

955
00:51:28.519 --> 00:51:30.840
He reached over and he grabbed the tree and just

956
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:32.719
snapped the tree as he walked through the yard.

957
00:51:33.519 --> 00:51:34.280
She told her dad.

958
00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:36.320
The next morning they went outside, and yet the tree

959
00:51:36.360 --> 00:51:38.760
branch had just been twisted like that, just twisted right

960
00:51:38.800 --> 00:51:45.719
like that. So the stories that are in tribal Bigfoot

961
00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:51.519
and Hoopa, of the different people from this area, they're interesting.

962
00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:55.159
So one more story and I'll let it be. But

963
00:51:55.239 --> 00:51:58.679
I got a friend whose dad is with the tribe

964
00:51:58.840 --> 00:52:03.719
in the Yurok. He is one of the last. I

965
00:52:03.719 --> 00:52:06.320
think he is the last one of the tribe that

966
00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:08.320
can make a canoe out of a tree, out of

967
00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:10.840
the one tree, and he burns it and uses hand tools,

968
00:52:10.840 --> 00:52:15.000
and he's an amazing craftsman. He had been a timberfeller

969
00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:19.119
his whole life. Been retired for a while now, but

970
00:52:19.239 --> 00:52:22.239
he makes those once in a while upon request and

971
00:52:23.239 --> 00:52:26.639
sells them for a bunch of money. But he had

972
00:52:26.760 --> 00:52:28.760
gone hunting with his son and they were in the

973
00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:32.880
Trinity Alp, the Trinity Mountains over here over by Weaver

974
00:52:33.599 --> 00:52:37.079
Whiskey Town, between Reading and the coast. Over here in

975
00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:40.679
the mountains hunting, and he goes, how come I I've

976
00:52:40.679 --> 00:52:42.400
been out here in the mountains my whole life and

977
00:52:42.440 --> 00:52:43.639
I've never seen anything.

978
00:52:44.039 --> 00:52:45.800
And then he mentioned, well, there was that one time

979
00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:46.480
with my dad.

980
00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:50.599
Well, they were camping on the top of this mountain

981
00:52:50.760 --> 00:52:55.079
and they saw this blue orb down below, and it

982
00:52:55.199 --> 00:52:58.199
was blowing right like that, and it came up and

983
00:52:58.239 --> 00:53:01.079
it came up right where they were in there, and

984
00:53:01.119 --> 00:53:04.559
then it went down and went away, and he looked

985
00:53:04.559 --> 00:53:05.960
at his dad says, what was that?

986
00:53:06.039 --> 00:53:09.760
And his dad said, I don't know. You know.

987
00:53:09.800 --> 00:53:11.559
Then they don't talk about it anymore. They don't try

988
00:53:11.559 --> 00:53:13.880
to figure it out, they don't rack their brains. But

989
00:53:13.960 --> 00:53:14.760
they saw something.

990
00:53:15.960 --> 00:53:17.599
And so.

991
00:53:19.480 --> 00:53:22.840
The stories of this whole vicinity of what you can

992
00:53:22.880 --> 00:53:26.239
do and what you can potentially find, you've got to

993
00:53:26.280 --> 00:53:27.320
go out and you've.

994
00:53:27.199 --> 00:53:28.880
Got to put yourself out there to.

995
00:53:30.559 --> 00:53:33.679
Have the potential of an experience that you don't know

996
00:53:33.719 --> 00:53:36.239
what would happen, but you got to be careful. And

997
00:53:38.039 --> 00:53:40.159
I know of the one I heard it on a podcast.

998
00:53:40.199 --> 00:53:43.159
It's not too far from over here. It's near I

999
00:53:43.159 --> 00:53:45.960
think Castle Crag or whatever the mountain is over here.

1000
00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:48.119
It's over and reading in the mountain in the mountain

1001
00:53:48.159 --> 00:53:49.679
area over there. It was a girl who was part

1002
00:53:49.679 --> 00:53:52.800
of the forestry or something, and she heard him running

1003
00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:54.480
and coming from a great way off and he came

1004
00:53:54.559 --> 00:53:56.119
up a mountain side and he came up over the

1005
00:53:56.119 --> 00:53:58.960
top and he landed and he was howling and screaming.

1006
00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:02.280
And she was just camping there on a hike out

1007
00:54:02.280 --> 00:54:04.599
in the wilderness for like three or four five days,

1008
00:54:05.239 --> 00:54:07.400
and then he just he saw her, caught eyes and

1009
00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:09.239
start each other for a while, and then he sort

1010
00:54:09.280 --> 00:54:11.800
of howlowing again. It took off running and there was

1011
00:54:11.840 --> 00:54:14.239
no footprints for nothing, but it scared her quite a bit. Well,

1012
00:54:14.239 --> 00:54:16.000
it's not too far from where we are, and I'm

1013
00:54:16.039 --> 00:54:17.800
trying to tell my wife, you know, let's go camp

1014
00:54:17.840 --> 00:54:18.119
out there.

1015
00:54:18.119 --> 00:54:20.000
Sometimes she's like, no, I'm not going to do that.

1016
00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:21.880
And then I tease her and tell her that I'm

1017
00:54:21.880 --> 00:54:24.480
gonna tire to a tree and cover her and honey,

1018
00:54:24.559 --> 00:54:29.960
and see what happens. I'm being funny, you know. The

1019
00:54:30.039 --> 00:54:35.719
thing is right, right is it would be interesting and neat.

1020
00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:37.880
But at the same time, like I said, I hear

1021
00:54:37.960 --> 00:54:43.320
these stories from different podcasts where there's the potential that

1022
00:54:43.400 --> 00:54:50.119
you could be you know, taking killed, eating you name it.

1023
00:54:50.159 --> 00:54:50.679
I don't know.

1024
00:54:51.880 --> 00:54:54.360
I don't think they're your friendly forest friend. I just

1025
00:54:54.440 --> 00:54:57.400
know that that thing was so huge. I was scared.

1026
00:54:57.639 --> 00:55:00.480
I was amazed that he didn't he was not startled

1027
00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:03.159
by me. He didn't have a care in the world.

1028
00:55:04.159 --> 00:55:07.320
And he didn't even look over at me. But when

1029
00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:09.239
I looked in my rear view mirror and saw in

1030
00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:11.079
the back where he was, and I looked at him,

1031
00:55:11.079 --> 00:55:14.400
and the look on his face, with those fire eyes,

1032
00:55:16.239 --> 00:55:17.480
that was enough for me.

1033
00:55:17.519 --> 00:55:19.159
To go turn around, turn around, tour around.

1034
00:55:19.199 --> 00:55:21.039
Let's get the lights on him and see how he acts,

1035
00:55:21.320 --> 00:55:25.440
you know, because the scary thing about it is that

1036
00:55:25.480 --> 00:55:27.480
truck I had. You couldn't step on the gas and

1037
00:55:27.519 --> 00:55:30.239
get out of there fast enough. You have to step

1038
00:55:30.239 --> 00:55:33.239
on the gas and for it to go. And then

1039
00:55:33.320 --> 00:55:35.840
I talked myself out of turning around because I had

1040
00:55:35.880 --> 00:55:40.119
gotten maybe about anywhere from maybe five or six miles

1041
00:55:40.159 --> 00:55:41.719
down the road where I found a road where I

1042
00:55:41.719 --> 00:55:46.519
could safely turn around and come back. And I thought,

1043
00:55:46.679 --> 00:55:49.239
don't do it. You've already seen it. It's late enough.

1044
00:55:49.239 --> 00:55:50.960
I'll just give you just so that you can see

1045
00:55:50.960 --> 00:55:53.920
that what I'm saying is legitimate and confirmed.

1046
00:55:53.480 --> 00:55:53.840
Kind of.

1047
00:55:55.360 --> 00:56:02.360
That Christmas, I had gotten a phone for my daughter

1048
00:56:02.880 --> 00:56:07.719
and she wanted to exchange the phone that I'd gotten

1049
00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:10.599
for her previously because her older sister I had gotten

1050
00:56:10.639 --> 00:56:14.840
her phone and it was the BlackBerry. So the BlackBerry

1051
00:56:15.199 --> 00:56:18.079
was like a very professional personal assistant.

1052
00:56:18.159 --> 00:56:19.239
It was a nice phone.

1053
00:56:19.280 --> 00:56:20.920
I liked it because I had a keyboard on it,

1054
00:56:21.480 --> 00:56:24.079
but the keyboard was so tiny my fingers didn't do

1055
00:56:24.159 --> 00:56:24.880
too good on it.

1056
00:56:25.960 --> 00:56:26.119
Well.

1057
00:56:26.239 --> 00:56:29.920
She wanted social media, so she said, Dad, if you're

1058
00:56:29.920 --> 00:56:31.840
going to get a BlackBerry, how about you give me

1059
00:56:31.920 --> 00:56:34.920
yours or I'll give you mine and then you get

1060
00:56:34.920 --> 00:56:37.960
a phone from me. I want the iPhone. So I

1061
00:56:38.000 --> 00:56:42.119
got her an iPhone for social media. So before I

1062
00:56:42.159 --> 00:56:45.119
started going through the canyon there, when I left Grant's past,

1063
00:56:45.159 --> 00:56:46.639
I thought, just turn the phone off.

1064
00:56:46.639 --> 00:56:48.400
You're not going to use it because there's no reception.

1065
00:56:49.880 --> 00:56:51.840
And the first thing I thought when I drove past

1066
00:56:51.880 --> 00:56:53.800
him was get a picture and do what you can,

1067
00:56:53.880 --> 00:56:55.440
you know, because the thing is, though, this is at

1068
00:56:55.440 --> 00:56:58.480
that BlackBerry when you started up, you watch it go

1069
00:56:58.639 --> 00:57:02.039
across with the startup like for like three minutes before

1070
00:57:02.079 --> 00:57:03.880
the time it only gets over there, and finally it

1071
00:57:04.559 --> 00:57:08.079
logs on it comes on, then you got to put

1072
00:57:08.079 --> 00:57:10.000
in your password, and I'm thinking, there's no way I

1073
00:57:10.039 --> 00:57:13.159
can make this canyon with my BlackBerry phone to get

1074
00:57:13.159 --> 00:57:13.519
a picture.

1075
00:57:13.559 --> 00:57:14.039
And it wasn't.

1076
00:57:14.159 --> 00:57:18.199
It wasn't a very high quality camera. But like I said,

1077
00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:24.639
I know the area I've been back. It'd be neat

1078
00:57:24.679 --> 00:57:27.159
because we've gone there in the evening, or we've just

1079
00:57:27.280 --> 00:57:30.440
parked where I know the truck driver saw and we've

1080
00:57:30.519 --> 00:57:33.760
just sat there. It's pitch black in the dark, and

1081
00:57:33.840 --> 00:57:36.800
we've got spotlights. We're sitting there waiting. We're there from

1082
00:57:36.840 --> 00:57:38.840
two o'clock to four o'clock in the morning, thinking that

1083
00:57:38.840 --> 00:57:42.679
maybe he'll come by or see this or something. Nothing happens.

1084
00:57:42.719 --> 00:57:47.800
I've done that number of times. But I do know

1085
00:57:47.840 --> 00:57:49.639
that if you go on to the reservation, you know

1086
00:57:49.639 --> 00:57:52.280
there's a chance you don't want the Indians coming around

1087
00:57:52.280 --> 00:57:56.880
and giving you a hard time either. So but I've

1088
00:57:56.880 --> 00:57:58.639
thought about it where if we just went out and

1089
00:57:58.679 --> 00:58:01.679
camped and just sat and you know, I'm not going

1090
00:58:01.719 --> 00:58:06.079
to go out walking and trying to knock on wood and.

1091
00:58:07.880 --> 00:58:09.320
Do all sorts of different things.

1092
00:58:09.400 --> 00:58:11.320
I was told just sit there and wear the same

1093
00:58:11.320 --> 00:58:13.800
clothes because like when you go el hunting, they do

1094
00:58:13.880 --> 00:58:16.119
what's called the vent cover. They want to make sure

1095
00:58:16.159 --> 00:58:19.000
that the animals can't smell you. I was told, don't

1096
00:58:19.000 --> 00:58:21.639
worry about it, just go out in the same clothes.

1097
00:58:21.719 --> 00:58:24.559
Let them get comfortable and recognize you. So like your

1098
00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:26.880
red shirt, you'd have to wear that same shirt every

1099
00:58:26.880 --> 00:58:29.039
weekend and go out in that red shirt and not

1100
00:58:29.119 --> 00:58:31.800
worry about it and let him see you and go

1101
00:58:31.920 --> 00:58:35.480
out there. And then I did go on the podcast

1102
00:58:35.559 --> 00:58:41.559
with West from the Sausquash Chronicles, and he got me

1103
00:58:41.639 --> 00:58:44.000
thinking on some different things too, So I don't know.

1104
00:58:45.840 --> 00:58:48.480
I listened to his story, but it's hard to stay

1105
00:58:48.519 --> 00:58:52.880
with certain people sometimes. But apparently what he experienced, and

1106
00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:55.559
he said that he's a big guy too. He says

1107
00:58:55.599 --> 00:58:57.800
he could have laid across his shoulders, the big one

1108
00:58:57.800 --> 00:59:02.119
that jumped down out of the tree. You know, I

1109
00:59:02.280 --> 00:59:08.239
just know that I'm very fortunate. It was a wonderful experience.

1110
00:59:08.559 --> 00:59:11.400
I still got the bug and me a little bit.

1111
00:59:11.559 --> 00:59:14.559
It would be neat to see him again, but you know,

1112
00:59:14.920 --> 00:59:20.079
we get busy with life and good luck, I haven't

1113
00:59:20.159 --> 00:59:21.920
had a chance to go out and hunt.

1114
00:59:22.119 --> 00:59:23.239
Be in a situation.

1115
00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:26.760
Oh, the one that I'll tell you about is the

1116
00:59:26.800 --> 00:59:29.159
Indian friend that I had had. He went hunting and

1117
00:59:29.199 --> 00:59:32.559
it was near Bluff Creek, and he said every year

1118
00:59:32.599 --> 00:59:33.239
they got deer.

1119
00:59:35.280 --> 00:59:37.199
That year there was a scarcity of deer.

1120
00:59:38.880 --> 00:59:41.719
His son got one right before sunset and they got

1121
00:59:41.840 --> 00:59:44.960
down to it and they were about twenty minutes away

1122
00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:46.800
from where the trucks were, and they thought, well, let's

1123
00:59:46.840 --> 00:59:49.880
go get the vehicles and bring the vehicles over and

1124
00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:53.000
use the headlights while we dress it out. So they

1125
00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:54.960
cut his throat, let him bleed out, and they went

1126
00:59:55.000 --> 00:59:59.360
to go get the truck. When they came back, there

1127
00:59:59.480 --> 01:00:05.199
was gone and the blood spot was there. So they

1128
01:00:05.199 --> 01:00:07.719
came back in the morning and they looked and they

1129
01:00:07.760 --> 01:00:10.599
saw something like a quad had gone in. So he

1130
01:00:10.719 --> 01:00:13.880
was thinking maybe two of them had gone in and

1131
01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:16.239
taken the deer, and his son took a picture of

1132
01:00:16.280 --> 01:00:19.079
the footprint that they got right there, but his son

1133
01:00:19.119 --> 01:00:21.000
had had three or four phone since then and they

1134
01:00:21.000 --> 01:00:22.119
couldn't find the picture.

1135
01:00:24.519 --> 01:00:25.679
So that was that area.

1136
01:00:26.079 --> 01:00:29.840
So the very next year he hunted the same area

1137
01:00:30.800 --> 01:00:34.199
and he got a deer himself, and he got addressed

1138
01:00:34.199 --> 01:00:37.800
and he got uploaded on the truck, and as he

1139
01:00:37.840 --> 01:00:39.599
got it loaded on the truck, and he was driving

1140
01:00:39.639 --> 01:00:41.760
out it was getting dark, and his wife was next

1141
01:00:41.800 --> 01:00:43.119
to him in the car and he had one of

1142
01:00:43.159 --> 01:00:49.800
his young baby son in the back here in his chair,

1143
01:00:50.360 --> 01:00:52.920
and he was spotlighting out the window in this area

1144
01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:55.920
where he got the deer and he was looking and

1145
01:00:55.960 --> 01:00:58.000
his wife says, oh, look, i've got coverage.

1146
01:00:58.039 --> 01:00:59.159
I should text my mom.

1147
01:00:59.280 --> 01:01:01.280
And he said what, And that's when he looked up

1148
01:01:02.039 --> 01:01:03.960
and he saw it run across the road. That was

1149
01:01:04.000 --> 01:01:06.960
the one that was the kind of way. Yeah, he said,

1150
01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:08.440
it was about ten feet in front.

1151
01:01:08.239 --> 01:01:08.599
Of the road.

1152
01:01:08.800 --> 01:01:12.199
Wow, he's got a real big big Ford, real big

1153
01:01:12.239 --> 01:01:16.119
Ford lifted a newer truck. And he said he got

1154
01:01:16.119 --> 01:01:18.239
to see it go across the road and he said

1155
01:01:18.320 --> 01:01:19.599
the muscles were amazing.

1156
01:01:20.400 --> 01:01:21.280
And he said that that's what.

1157
01:01:21.320 --> 01:01:23.079
He's the one who said he saw the handswing a

1158
01:01:23.079 --> 01:01:26.280
certain way and he said he was big, Okay, he

1159
01:01:26.320 --> 01:01:28.599
was about as big as a truck. But he said

1160
01:01:28.639 --> 01:01:32.599
he went across the road so fast, but it was amazing.

1161
01:01:33.119 --> 01:01:35.000
He said he saw it right then. He said, he said,

1162
01:01:35.079 --> 01:01:37.599
his wife said I should tell I should text my mom.

1163
01:01:37.679 --> 01:01:39.719
I got coverage. And he looked up and that's he

1164
01:01:39.760 --> 01:01:41.400
said what. And that's when he saw it go across

1165
01:01:41.400 --> 01:01:44.719
the front of the truck. So that's the area, the

1166
01:01:44.760 --> 01:01:48.039
same exact spot where his son had had one the

1167
01:01:48.119 --> 01:01:51.920
year before where the deer rent missing. So people have

1168
01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:54.480
talked about it that maybe they know at certain times

1169
01:01:54.519 --> 01:01:56.280
of the year they hear that sound that there's a

1170
01:01:56.320 --> 01:01:59.280
deer down or something shot, and maybe they have a

1171
01:01:59.400 --> 01:02:01.519
chance of picking up something fresh and easy.

1172
01:02:02.320 --> 01:02:07.440
So I don't know. In the books, I know of

1173
01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:08.320
two officers.

1174
01:02:08.360 --> 01:02:10.360
I'd never talked with them, but the two officers were

1175
01:02:10.400 --> 01:02:13.039
ill counting in this area out here, and they came

1176
01:02:13.159 --> 01:02:14.920
up a hill and came down and sat down and

1177
01:02:14.920 --> 01:02:16.679
were taking a break, and they looked across one of

1178
01:02:16.679 --> 01:02:19.480
the lakes and there was one in the water up

1179
01:02:19.519 --> 01:02:22.480
to his waist right there, and he was huge, and

1180
01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:24.199
then they caught eyes with him, and as he was

1181
01:02:24.239 --> 01:02:26.960
in the water getting out, hey out this giant yell

1182
01:02:27.039 --> 01:02:30.880
that scared them daylights scared him really bad because it

1183
01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:38.440
was so loud and reverberated in him. So I enjoy it.

1184
01:02:38.480 --> 01:02:40.360
My wife and I listened to your to your show.

1185
01:02:41.440 --> 01:02:45.440
We listened to it last night to thank you. We

1186
01:02:45.440 --> 01:02:48.079
we've we've been listening to this for probably like the

1187
01:02:48.159 --> 01:02:51.920
last maybe four or five years and been out and about,

1188
01:02:52.000 --> 01:02:55.119
but uh, the last two years, right before I got

1189
01:02:55.159 --> 01:02:58.119
to retire, I was out of the area.

1190
01:02:59.159 --> 01:03:01.079
So we've just we've had fun.

1191
01:03:03.199 --> 01:03:06.039
Some people go, yeah, he's just talking though I don't

1192
01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:07.199
believe him and all this stuff.

1193
01:03:07.239 --> 01:03:09.360
Well, my auntitude is is I don't care what you think.

1194
01:03:09.920 --> 01:03:18.599
Oh yeah, exactly right, Doug. I really appreciate you coming

1195
01:03:18.639 --> 01:03:21.119
on the show. And I mean, as I said before,

1196
01:03:21.119 --> 01:03:25.360
it's one of the most detailed accounts that I've heard

1197
01:03:25.400 --> 01:03:30.320
in the is it seven six seven years I've been

1198
01:03:30.360 --> 01:03:36.400
doing this, It is extremely detailed. Thank you for sharing

1199
01:03:36.760 --> 01:03:42.760
what you experienced that day. And yeah, anyone who is listening,

1200
01:03:42.880 --> 01:03:47.000
if you have had a similar sighting in that same area,

1201
01:03:47.440 --> 01:03:50.119
I would love to hear about it as well, or

1202
01:03:50.199 --> 01:03:52.320
southern Oregon. You know, you can reach out to me

1203
01:03:52.760 --> 01:03:55.880
Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

1204
01:03:55.519 --> 01:03:57.039
If someone wants to get a hold of me.

1205
01:03:57.119 --> 01:04:00.480
I've been we were supposed to last I'm gonna go

1206
01:04:00.519 --> 01:04:02.559
out with that truck driver to an area he says,

1207
01:04:02.559 --> 01:04:07.239
I know where they're at, Okay, and he said, you

1208
01:04:07.280 --> 01:04:09.440
got to bring you got to bring a weapon to

1209
01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:12.239
be able to protect yourself because they know if you've

1210
01:04:12.239 --> 01:04:13.079
got a weapon or not.

1211
01:04:15.559 --> 01:04:17.559
He said that they'll be there.

1212
01:04:17.599 --> 01:04:19.800
He goes, we're going to be across the water from him,

1213
01:04:19.840 --> 01:04:24.840
but they'll come across the water to you. So he's different.

1214
01:04:25.239 --> 01:04:27.679
He's about six foot seven. He saw one when he

1215
01:04:27.760 --> 01:04:30.840
was eleven years old. I followed him on his bicycle

1216
01:04:30.880 --> 01:04:32.880
when he was camping up in the very same spot

1217
01:04:33.639 --> 01:04:37.320
off of the Siskey Harks Road and off of Highway

1218
01:04:37.320 --> 01:04:40.239
one ninety nine, and we went back and told his parents.

1219
01:04:40.239 --> 01:04:44.159
They laughed at him. So he's the truck driver that

1220
01:04:44.280 --> 01:04:46.400
saw that real big one. And I saw a sketch

1221
01:04:46.440 --> 01:04:48.320
of it and it looks like the one that I saw.

1222
01:04:48.960 --> 01:04:50.480
I think it was the act for the one that

1223
01:04:50.519 --> 01:04:54.800
I saw too. His name is Travis, and Travis I've

1224
01:04:54.880 --> 01:04:57.280
run into the store and we've talked about it and

1225
01:04:57.320 --> 01:05:00.719
it's kind of neat. But he goes, yeah, i'll take

1226
01:05:00.760 --> 01:05:02.360
you up this summer. But you know what, you don't

1227
01:05:02.360 --> 01:05:06.199
hear from him, And there's all sorts of people. You

1228
01:05:06.239 --> 01:05:08.719
know what, you'd do it as a as a curiosity

1229
01:05:08.800 --> 01:05:12.639
the show. You're professional, you have the equipment. You can

1230
01:05:12.679 --> 01:05:16.400
tell from certain people that they're in it for trying

1231
01:05:16.440 --> 01:05:18.880
to make themselves famous.

1232
01:05:18.920 --> 01:05:20.440
In a sense, or they wanted to be.

1233
01:05:21.159 --> 01:05:25.960
They've got they've got all these desires, and sure there's

1234
01:05:26.000 --> 01:05:29.280
a financial burden into doing all of these things. But

1235
01:05:29.360 --> 01:05:33.239
you know what, I met doctor Meldrem, but he had

1236
01:05:33.280 --> 01:05:36.519
a job at the university. You know, I know David

1237
01:05:36.559 --> 01:05:40.880
Pilate's he does his books. I've met him. Very interesting man.

1238
01:05:42.800 --> 01:05:47.199
But I get vibes from people, okay, and there's a

1239
01:05:47.280 --> 01:05:49.320
lot of folks. They're in it, they're interested.

1240
01:05:49.480 --> 01:05:50.440
But you know what.

1241
01:05:52.840 --> 01:05:55.320
All I know is there's an element of joy and

1242
01:05:55.360 --> 01:05:57.320
happiness about me is I'm glad I saw him.

1243
01:05:57.360 --> 01:05:58.719
It was kind of freaking that I did.

1244
01:05:59.400 --> 01:06:02.320
At the same time, I'm still, like I said, there's

1245
01:06:02.320 --> 01:06:04.400
no reason that I don't think that they made themselves

1246
01:06:04.440 --> 01:06:04.800
known to me.

1247
01:06:04.880 --> 01:06:07.400
I don't know. I do know that.

1248
01:06:10.320 --> 01:06:13.400
There's all sorts of stories where Dave's talked about how

1249
01:06:14.239 --> 01:06:17.519
across the Klamath River you'll see a big, old giant

1250
01:06:17.519 --> 01:06:20.039
pile of poop and then pile of bones, and there's

1251
01:06:20.079 --> 01:06:23.119
girls that have gone missing up there. You know, I

1252
01:06:23.159 --> 01:06:26.000
don't know what the story is. I just know that

1253
01:06:27.840 --> 01:06:31.239
it's interesting, and it's just it's very different. If anybody

1254
01:06:31.320 --> 01:06:34.559
wants to communicate with me and say Hey, Doug, would

1255
01:06:34.599 --> 01:06:36.800
you like to go out. I'd be I'd love to

1256
01:06:36.800 --> 01:06:38.880
go out again and see if I could find him.

1257
01:06:39.119 --> 01:06:41.119
But like I said, we're going to relocate out of

1258
01:06:41.119 --> 01:06:43.079
the area and go somewhere else.

1259
01:06:44.639 --> 01:06:45.719
Right, so.

1260
01:06:47.119 --> 01:06:51.960
I'll depend Well, gotcha, people can where listeners you can

1261
01:06:52.000 --> 01:06:55.440
reach out to Doug. It's Brookingsharbor Dad at yahoo dot

1262
01:06:55.440 --> 01:06:57.559
com and I'll have that in the description of the

1263
01:06:57.679 --> 01:07:02.000
episode so you can easily see that. But Doug, thank

1264
01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:04.400
you so much for again for coming on the show

1265
01:07:05.039 --> 01:07:08.320
and and for listening along. I do appreciate that. And

1266
01:07:09.079 --> 01:07:12.559
we'll have to see where this one leads. Maybe we'll

1267
01:07:12.599 --> 01:07:16.000
have some people reach out with things they've experienced as well.

1268
01:07:16.239 --> 01:07:18.079
So thank you your time. Thank you.

1269
01:07:19.920 --> 01:07:22.960
Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity

1270
01:07:23.000 --> 01:07:26.199
around Oakridge, Oregon and you think to yourself, Man, I

1271
01:07:26.239 --> 01:07:29.079
would love to get out in those woods and experience

1272
01:07:29.119 --> 01:07:33.639
it for myself. Well guess what this year you can

1273
01:07:34.320 --> 01:07:37.280
If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's

1274
01:07:37.280 --> 01:07:42.239
pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July tenth

1275
01:07:42.320 --> 01:07:45.920
through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's going to be

1276
01:07:46.000 --> 01:07:50.079
even better than the previous year's reason number one. I'll

1277
01:07:50.119 --> 01:07:52.800
be one of the speakers. It's gonna be wild. I'll

1278
01:07:52.840 --> 01:07:58.320
probably I'll say this. There may be stuff you haven't

1279
01:07:58.360 --> 01:08:04.559
heard anywhere else because is let's just say sometimes it's well,

1280
01:08:04.719 --> 01:08:06.679
you just got to be there. We'll leave at that.

1281
01:08:06.840 --> 01:08:09.519
More about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now

1282
01:08:09.599 --> 01:08:14.719
check this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his

1283
01:08:14.840 --> 01:08:19.720
documentary series Searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year you can

1284
01:08:19.720 --> 01:08:22.880
not only go to the festival, but you can also

1285
01:08:23.720 --> 01:08:30.479
sign up for a track deep in the wild forest

1286
01:08:30.560 --> 01:08:35.239
outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot spots

1287
01:08:35.600 --> 01:08:39.159
to look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots to sign

1288
01:08:39.239 --> 01:08:42.840
up for this, and yes, this will also be filmed

1289
01:08:43.399 --> 01:08:46.119
for the next chapter in his documentary series, which is

1290
01:08:46.279 --> 01:08:49.239
Searching for Sasquatch. This is a once in a lifetime deal.

1291
01:08:49.439 --> 01:08:54.199
It's just it's gonna be a wild, wild experience. To

1292
01:08:54.560 --> 01:08:57.840
get a ticket, head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest dot

1293
01:08:57.880 --> 01:09:04.159
com and listeners can use the code bsp like Bigfoot

1294
01:09:04.239 --> 01:09:07.640
Society podcast in order to get a two day pass

1295
01:09:07.760 --> 01:09:11.600
for the price of a one day pass. So thanks

1296
01:09:11.640 --> 01:09:16.520
to Priscilla for giving me that code so that you

1297
01:09:16.600 --> 01:09:22.319
guys can can get a little help with the costs there.

1298
01:09:22.520 --> 01:09:26.199
Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to see you at the

1299
01:09:26.239 --> 01:09:30.319
booth in Oakridge this year. We can talk about your encounter.

1300
01:09:30.560 --> 01:09:32.920
Was able to talk to so many people last year

1301
01:09:33.039 --> 01:09:37.199
and the year before. It is an incredible time. You're

1302
01:09:37.199 --> 01:09:38.960
not going to want to miss it, and I'll see

1303
01:09:38.960 --> 01:09:43.319
you there. Before we wrap this episode, I want to

1304
01:09:43.319 --> 01:09:46.600
say something directly to a very specific group of listeners.

1305
01:09:46.840 --> 01:09:50.560
If you're in the military, any branch or forces, and

1306
01:09:50.600 --> 01:09:53.520
if you've seen something that no one can explain, or

1307
01:09:53.560 --> 01:09:56.640
if you're a National park ranger or forestreet worker who's

1308
01:09:56.680 --> 01:09:59.479
been told to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot

1309
01:09:59.520 --> 01:10:03.079
who's seen something strange down on the ground, or if

1310
01:10:03.119 --> 01:10:06.680
you're with the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence

1311
01:10:06.880 --> 01:10:09.920
and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about.

1312
01:10:10.199 --> 01:10:13.119
And if you're a firefighter, paramedic or search and rescue

1313
01:10:13.159 --> 01:10:17.039
responder who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense.

1314
01:10:17.560 --> 01:10:20.960
If you're in the logging industry on a remote oil

1315
01:10:21.039 --> 01:10:24.239
field or a trucker with government contracts and you've had

1316
01:10:24.239 --> 01:10:27.880
something happen that you've never told a soul. And if

1317
01:10:27.880 --> 01:10:31.560
you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher

1318
01:10:31.720 --> 01:10:35.359
under contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

1319
01:10:35.880 --> 01:10:38.359
If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

1320
01:10:38.399 --> 01:10:41.880
spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,

1321
01:10:42.560 --> 01:10:45.680
or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA or

1322
01:10:45.720 --> 01:10:49.079
anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

1323
01:10:50.439 --> 01:10:53.880
then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

1324
01:10:55.680 --> 01:10:59.199
You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

1325
01:10:59.600 --> 01:11:02.079
The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

1326
01:11:02.119 --> 01:11:08.039
carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story,

1327
01:11:08.439 --> 01:11:12.279
We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank

1328
01:11:12.279 --> 01:11:15.159
you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast.

1329
01:11:15.239 --> 01:11:17.640
Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is

1330
01:11:17.680 --> 01:11:20.840
bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth

1331
01:11:20.880 --> 01:11:23.720
is often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you

1332
01:11:23.840 --> 01:11:26.560
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1339
01:11:45.199 --> 01:11:47.600
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1340
01:11:48.039 --> 01:11:50.520
please I'd love to hear from you, so email me

1341
01:11:50.680 --> 01:11:54.039
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1342
01:11:54.039 --> 01:11:56.880
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1344
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1347
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1348
01:12:14.039 --> 01:12:16.720
you are. Thanks again for following along with the Bigfoot

1349
01:12:16.800 --> 01:12:20.239
Society until next time, keep your eyes open, trust your gut,

1350
01:12:20.279 --> 01:12:22.520
and never stop asking what else might be out there?

1351
01:12:22.720 --> 01:12:23.680
And see you in the woods.