In Pursuit of the Elusive: Bigfoot Encounters and Missing Persons

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It was coming from the dry creek
bed. It was incredibly loud. I've

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never heard anything like it in my
life. It shook me awake. I

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woke up immediately. It wasn't something
I was expecting to hear. Right after

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the first guttural call, I heard
footsteps right next to my tid, right

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next to it, within five to
ten feet. That was pretty alarmed,

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completely awake. I knew exactly what
was going on, and the guttural call,

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whatever it was that was in the
crick bed had moved down that creek

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bed probably one hundred feet and a
very short mirror amount of time, maybe

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five seconds. You know, at
time kind of escapes you in a situation

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like that. All right, for
society, You've got the privilege of talking

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to two gentlemens Night from the Pacific
Northwest. We've got mister Tanner Hoskins and

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Kelly from Pacific Northwest Bigfoot Search.
I've been wanting to chat with you guys

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for a while. I'm glad we
finally were able to get it all rocking

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and rolling. But Tanner, do
you mind sharing any information that the audience

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will want to know before we get
chatting about the Pacific Northwest big Foot search

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or native Oregonian been here to like
I said, thirty years. Background is

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in private security investigations, studying right
now for conservation looking at forestry and wildlife

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conservation degree, proud dad of one
kid. And that's about all I got

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but I could think of at the
top of my head. Nice and Kelly,

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you can go ahead. Yeah,
my name's Kelly. Originally from Montana,

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raised on a ranch out there.
Moved to the Northwest about twenty years

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ago the Oregon area. I've been
back and forth here. Yes, most

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of my life in the woods one
way or another. Did six years in

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the infantry. I've hunted and fish, just love to be outside and have

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a couple of boys that joined me
on my excursions up to the hills all

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the time. And yeah, it's
about it. I'm nothing too special.

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I'm an electrical contractor by trade,
working good profession. Enjoy my life.

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Hey, that's all you can ask
for, Tanner. What is the Pacific

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Northwest big Foot Search? And how
did it all come about? It actually

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came about because Kelly had an experience
with something in the woods that he could

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not identify. I've known about big
foot stories and big footlore all since growing

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up. My great grandma used to
talk about hide behind. Her family were

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loggers in the Orfino, Idaho Grangemont
area, but hearing that lore my whole

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life. And then it fell off
until Kelly came to work one day and

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said, hey, I had something
come through camp that I did not recognize,

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and we immediately, probably two weeks
later, went back to the area,

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just trying to see what was going
on and see if we could encountered

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something. And honestly, it was
just born from there, just a bunch

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of friends trying to make sense of
a weird, strange coincidence that happened in

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the woods. And Kelly since here
here, which is awesome. That's usually

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not the case when a gentleman says, but he had a thing where he

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saw something in the woods. But
you're actually here with us. Do you

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mind, Sharon, what happened from
your point of view? No, no,

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not at all. I've learned to
enjoy the story. It was pretty

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hard in the beginning, but we're
awesome. Missn't one of the folks here,

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he couldn't make it this evening.
His name's Mike. He was on

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that trip where this took place,
and I know Mike back from twenty years.

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Him and I were in the Army
together, Like I said, known

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each other forever, trust each other
completely, And he was there Like I

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said, I wish you could have
been here for this one, but for

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this podcast, But he's not here
tonight. June eighteenth to twenty twenty,

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my boys and their cousin we always
went up to an area called Forlorn Lakes.

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It's situated between Mount Adams and Mount
Saint Helens. It's an area I

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had camped quite a few times before. I found it just by going and

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driving way up in the mountains.
And as far as remote goes, I

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know there's different versions of remote all
across this country. Being from Montana,

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we have a whole other version of
remote. It's incredibly rural. There's nothing

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out there. People are like it's
remote. The lalnmars thirty miles away.

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It's not like that there, and
it's not like that where we go either.

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There's nothing out there. You're an
hour and a half away from the

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closest town and if the town has
gas, you're lucky. So it's good

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country to get up into. There's
these little finger lakes called Forlorn lakes and

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little campsites around him. But I'd
done some exploring over the years and I

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found a spot that I really wanted
to get into, and it was a

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creek bed that ran down way above
Forlorn Lakes, probably about the mile and

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a half up above it. Off
the road. You'd pass it, never

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know it was there. When I
say road, it's a pretty not much

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of a road there. Really.
It heads up into a trailhead is all

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that leads to the boys and I
were lucky enough to grab that spot.

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My buddy Mike and his girlfriend ended
up joining us later in that day.

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They knew where it was at.
I was able to drop a point and

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they were able to find it.
So that night set up camp. Had

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the three boys with me. Their
ages were like eleven seven right in that

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area, all three of them,
and I'm gonna ended up going to bed

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pretty early. The dry creek bed
right next to us. It was dry.

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I was hoping there'd be water running
through it as I had seen before,

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but there wasn't any, just pools
of water, and the boys have

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been playing within them that evening.
This is a real beautiful place, surrounded

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by huge cedars and pine trees,
a nice little campering. It's not a

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civilized camp spot at all. It's
off the beaten path. Huckleberries were everywhere.

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You could just right next to your
ten just grab them off the bush

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and eat him. And it was
fantastic. So the boys and I went

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to bed pretty early that night.
We did the typical hot dogs and s'morest

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type of thing, and Mike and
his girlfriend, but he managed to polish

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off my bottle of Pendleton, which
was pretty nice one. So they were

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They were up a little bit longer
than we were. Anyway, go to

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bed and not exactly sure of what
time it was that I heard the first

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sound, and I think Mike best
described it later on as it sounded like

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a guttural washboard and it was coming
from the dry crick bed. It was

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incredibly loud. I've never heard anything
like it in my life. It shook

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me awake. I woke up immediately. It wasn't something I was expecting to

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hear. If anything, I expected
to hear raccoon. If that, there's

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not even raccoons up there, it's
too high. Right after the first guttural

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call, I heard footsteps right next
to my tent, right next to it

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within five to ten feet. I
was pretty alarmed, completely awake. I

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knew exactly what was going on.
And then the guttural call. Whatever it

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was that was in the creek bed
had moved down that creek bed probably one

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hundred feet, and a very short
amount of time, maybe five seconds.

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Time kind of escapes you in a
situation like that, and then the footsteps

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continued on. I think I heard
the guttural call that first night, I

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want to say three times. But
there was a small trail that went right

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by my tent, five feet from
it and connected up with the dry creek

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bed, which was right next to
us. And whatever it was that was

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walking next to my tent went down
that trail. Now you're talking about a

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trail of hundreds of thousands of years
of dry pine needles stacked on top of

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each other. You couldn't track it, and elephant heard through there. There's

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nothing that track. You could drive
your truck across it and not leave a

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track. It's just dry piney hell
beds. But I could feel that thing

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walking and I could hear whatever it
was something the huckleberries bushes brush up against

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its legs as it walked. I
immediately have that as that thing across my

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tent, past my tent. I
immediately called out for Mike as I yelled,

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Mike, there's something in the camp. I yelled it as loud as

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I could because I was terrified.
I'm not gonna lie. I was really

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scared. Mike. He just mumbles
something looking back. It's funny, but

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I'm jumping out of the tent.
I'm grabbing my twelve gage on, stepping

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on these three little boys as I'm
doing it. There they didn't hear a

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thing. I ended up stepping on
their youngest one, the cousin, and

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right out of a movie, he
screams, looking right at me, wall

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asleep. I was terrifying. It
was just a disaster and me trying to

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get out of that tent while being
terrified of something outside my tent. It

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was right out of the Nightmares and
comics all at once. I jumped out

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of the tent and Mike's girlfriend,
I think she had left the lantern on.

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She wanted a nightlight, so she
left our lantern on. It was

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barely burning and Mike's tent was right
next to mine. I said, Mike,

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there's something just came through and I
explained it. I was shaken.

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I was scared to death. Looking
back, I was scared, but I

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never racked around in my shotgun.
I would just bizarre for me. I

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even ex soldier, you'd think he'd
be more ready than that, and clearly

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I wasn't. Anyway, I'm telling
him about it, and he says,

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hey, man, I didn't hear
a thing, sorry, Mike. Okay.

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Got my act together after about ten
minutes, and I went back to

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bed. The next morning, I
got up and telling everyone around the campfire,

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this happened. This thing came through. And I said to Mike.

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I said, Mike, there was
at least two of them. There's one

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in the dry crick bed and there
was one right in camp And I said,

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whatever. It was big and it
was too lated. I know it

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was. I know what elk sound
like walking by me. I grew up

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for three years at the north entrance
to Yellow Swimming with my dad and Gardner,

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Montana. I know animals, I
know bears, I know elk,

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I know deer and antelope, no
cats. I'm comfortable around all of it.

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But this thing, it was a
completely different situation. I've never heard

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anything like that in my life.
So I think they got tired of hearing

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me talk about it, and I
didn't want to ruin the day. I

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got these three little boys up here
that want to do fishing all day.

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They wanted to swimming. I'm not
so I let it go. And Mike,

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I remember whom saying. He said, man, I believe you.

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I just didn't hear anything like okay, so I let it go. We

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went down to the local lake,
the Goose Lake is what it's called.

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It's great little fishing hole, canoe
and kayaking, and it's got some pretty

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cool history in the two people can
look it up that there's someone and I've

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been looking for him for years,
and that's why I was like to go

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up there. There's some handprints and
the lava beds up there, okay,

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but they looked six or eight thousand
years old. Yeah, and from they

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could date it because it's the last
lava that went through there. There's hand

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handprints and footprints and there they have
a molding them down at the ranger station.

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It's pretty cool. So I'm always
down there looking for that and letting

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the boys fishing. We had a
great day. Everyone was worn out by

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the end of it. Because we
spent all day out in the sun.

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We went back to camp and everyone
turned in pretty early that day, no

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one was in rest, and finished
off another bottle of Pendleton, and even

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if we didn't have one or not. I went to bed and it was

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clear I wasn't going to sleep well. The thing was still on my mind,

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but I had dropped it. I
didn't want to keep bringing it up

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because you start to tell yourself you're
crazy, like this didn't happen. Move

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on, there's no ways it's different
feeling. So it went to sleep and

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I didn't know what time it was
at that time, but I heard it

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again. Woke up and it was
that guttural washboard sound. It was so

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loud in that quiet of the woods. It's almost like someone setting off a

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car alarm right next year while you're
sleeping. It was that loud, and

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once again it was in the crieckbed, not exactly maybe the same location,

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but it was in the creek bed. And immediately I yelled, Mike,

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it's back. And all I heard
him say, and I think this is

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what he he said. I hear
it and he's as he's saying that he's

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racking around in his forty five.
I'm a little more cute up the second,

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I'm a little more prepared. So
I jump out of my tent without

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tripping over three kids and causing myself
a heart attack. I get out of

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the tent. Mike is laying down, facing up towards my truck and he

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said, it's up there, and
he's searching for his glasses. He was

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asking his girlfriend, hey, give
me my glasses because he's trying to actually

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see in the dark. He had. We're standing there in the exact same

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position I was in the night before, except for him awake, pointed up

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towards my truck, laying down halfway
outside his tent, still laying on the

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ground, and I say to him
his girlfriend, I said, what time

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is It's it's three oh six.
I remember that very specifically. She's like,

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it's three oh six. And I
said to Mike. I said,

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Mike, two legs were four,
because he's shook, like he doesn't know

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up from down. But I need
to prove to myself that I'm not crazy.

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I said, Mike, two legs
are four, he's two. I

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said, how big was It's like
it's really faf and big, and I'm

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like, okay, I'm not crazy. So we clear camp a couple of

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times, and he's yelling into the
woods, he's no better, Nobody better

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be messing with us out there.
And I already knew there was nobody messing

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with us out there. These aren't
microphones in the trees. These aren't some

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four or five hundred pound guy stomping
around out in the woods. It's not

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happening where we're at. There's no
way. You'd have to be a lunatic

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to be out there. There's no
way. So we cleared camp a couple

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of times, and I said to
myself, I said, there's no way

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we're sleeping in this tent. A
end to night, and the boys were

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awake, and I yelled at the
oldest, I said, hey, start

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loading up blankets in the truck.
So they are moving stuff to my pickup,

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and my youngest also, I remember, was seeing him as a little

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white streak running across the woods,
running to the truck as fast as he

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could. And I thought to myself, whatever is out there, he's too

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far away from me. Right right
now, he's thirty feet away. It

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was entertaining, humorous, and terrifying
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Mike and his girlfriend slept in their
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convertible, and here I am in
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fine, and I'm pretty sure they
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the next morning we got up and
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to his tent, and he's like, it was right here, and he

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kept he couldn't rememit the weight of
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eighty pounds. I'd say hundred and
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there was another one, he says, on the woods on the other side,

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So he thinks there was three whatever
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you want to call it. Whatever
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Me. I only heard the two. I heard the one in the

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creek bed, and I heard the
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at my recollections, right I could
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The second night, also packed up
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I came back to where we were
working and told Tanner about it, and

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him and I were friends at that
point, but we weren't. You're more

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a friend acquaintances, we're friends.
At that point, I told him about

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it and he ran with it.
This is amazing, this happened, and

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it's taken me. It took me
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around it because I know what I
heard. I'm not a complete green horn

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in the woods. I'm actually pretty
solid. Mike and I were soldiers together

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in the Montana National Guard. We're
not a couple of Yeah, it was.

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We know our way around, probably
more than most. We can track,

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you can hunt. I've had grizzlies
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even ran to my truck during that. I slept in the tent. I

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wasn't afraid of it. But this
was different. This was different. Tanner

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follow up for you, so immediately
what I'm thinking, have you guys ever

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received a report that has that same
type of sound mentioned? So I've only

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had one report out about the eighty
that our website has received in the last

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three years where somebody mentioned that it
sounded like a stick running along a picket

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fits. It was just that's exactly
right, That's what it was. But

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on such a massive scale. The
sound he just made was pretty accurate,

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but with a higher pitch to it
almost There's nothing that I know of that

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makes any sound like that. I
know some cats that make some strange sounds

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podcasts especially, they make the damn
to sounds, but it wasn't that.

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There's no way that's incredible. And
listeners you especially on YouTube for some reason,

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the YouTube listeners are just probably because
there's a comment feature and they can

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rattle stuff off and it's easier than
the podcast to get that feedback. But

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guys, if you've heard the same
sound, put something in the comments because

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I want to know. But how
can they contact you? Tanner Kelly directly

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to let you know, Hey,
I've heard this, but it was like

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in North Carolina. You can go
to PMW bigfootsearch dot com. As soon

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as you get to the website,
our front page is file a report.

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If you want to remain anonymous,
you can. I would love to follow

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up with you. I won't sell
your information. I'm not doing that.

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I'm trying to create a database of
everybody that's had these encounters so we can

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piece together what this possibly was.
I've heard stories from everywhere and of everything.

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People that think they're wind to goes
or whatever you want to call it.

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If you have information. I would
love to hear from you, and

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if you're comfortable, I would love
to speak right ahead. Kelly. Yeah,

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So the first night we were camping
there, we were not responsible campers.

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The boys eaten some hot dogs,
half eaten hot dogs. There was

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half eaten s'mores, and they were
all thrown into a trash bag bend that

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I bring camping right at the end
of the pickup. At the end of

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the night I was I went to
bed and Mike and his girlfriend were clearly

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not gonna be much used to anybody, and so that food sat out.

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Whatever was coming through wasn't interested in
food coming through. It just wasn't a

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bearb would have rummaged around, but
there There's just no way that sound was.

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It was nothing like that. So
what I'm saying is if there was

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an animal interested in coming to our
camphor that's not what they came for.

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That's even weirder because it's if they
weren't coming for that. We've done lots

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of research on this now and Canner
has done an amazing job on this site.

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In fact, I didn't even know
he was doing the site, but

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six months later, all of a
sudden, I'm co founder hell, I

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didn't even know. I didn't even
know how part of this. I was

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just a guy going out camp.
But we became really good friends through this

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process and who we go out and
do these things. But he's put together

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an amazing missing person's database that overlays
with They put sightings, vocalizations. You

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can see at all right through the
entire Cascade Range. It's incredible. He's

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got tons of information on there.
People are we all like to geek out

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and look at this stuff. If
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the site, it's amazing. He's
the overlays He's done with missing persons and

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they put sidings, vocalizations, they
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I'm glad that you put that in
there. But then you're own map as

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well, and we'll chat about that
later. But I'm curious, have you

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guys found that you keep focusing on
a certain area or region of the Pacific

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Northwest or you're going all over the
place. So far, what we find

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ourselves doing is people getting us back
into the Cascade Range. Every time I

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try to do anything. It's the
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the Upper Cascades, and then the
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there's places in Idaho I would love
to check out. I'd like check out

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the Montana bitter Roots. But every
report we get stems from the entire length

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of the Cascade Range. Through your
research, have you ever thought all these

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reports are coming from this one Cascade
Hades area? What makes that such a

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hot spot for bigfoot? Honestly,
if you follow the Pacific Crest Trail from

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Mexico to the Canadian border and through
it, they're every reporting goes through the

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Sierras from southern California all the way
up, and I think it's just an

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area where if there is a town
in between, like a migration corridor or

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something, these things are able to
ride these ridge lines, like they call

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them ridgewalkers in certain cultures. I
think they're just using that either as a

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migration corridor, or people that are
camping or hiking or backpacking, or just

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stumbling across things that are up there
that most people don't pay attention to or

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notice. Maybe if they're closer to
town, because most of the people that

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are out where we get reports at
or hunters that have been in the back

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country. They've taken the Pacific Crest
trail and then made a trail to some

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other area. So I'm really not
sure. Other than that is all I

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can think of is that amounts are
a huge section of land that anything could

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traverse and get thousands of miles.
Kelly, has there been a report guys

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have taken over the years where you
took the report? It is fascinating and

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it just it sucks you guys right
in and you ended up getting involved with

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something that was maybe a little bit
more outside of what you thought it was.

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I think I'll hand that one over
Tanner. He's the one that takes

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these reports in. We had some
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It would not come close enough to
the fire, but they could hear

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it moving through the brush, and
then they heard multiple surrounding the fire area.

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But they said that it got close
enough to camp that they thought they

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could smell something and whatever it was, they swore was on two legs.

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But there was four or five firefighters
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it would not get close to the
fire. So that you could see its

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eyes, but you could tell that
it was watching everything they were doing.

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So they all actually in the report
that I have, they I think they

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all moved away from the fire to
try to get better eyes out into the

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darkness, and then they got two
spooked and they all just went back to

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the fire and loaded it up with
wood and stayed up all night until it

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was time to pack out. I
don't blame him. Man, Wow,

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that's that is wild. And these
the firefighter guys. So these guys are

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used to being out there in the
woods and dealing with all sorts of stuff.

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That is wild. Man. One
of the reports we've got, the

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report that we got about the guy
with the guttural call something similar than what

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I heard. He's a deputy on
the coast. He's a deputy sheriff,

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and he was with his son when
they heard this. The report database is

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pretty in depth. So these aren't
just a I don't mean to be crude,

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but a bunch of it. Yeah, who was running around the woods

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making stuff up, throwing fairy dust
up in the air and hoping something sticks.

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These are These are woodsmen, These
are firefighters, These are veterans,

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These are hundreds. They're reporting these
things into us. These are reputable people

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that are coming across these things,
and it's not like they're looking for this

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experience. This just happens. So
it's pretty interesting. I'm sure a few

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people's ears perked up when you were
talking about missing persons and big foot earlier.

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That's a hot topic. It's been
a hot topic for years, pon

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years. Can you talk me through
how did that become a part of Pacific

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Northwest big Foot Search. Was there
a time where you were like, hey,

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this is just matching up all these
people are gone missing. So it

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became an idea when I started the
Instagram page on Facebook page and a guy

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reached out and said that we were
in an area where one of his friends

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disappeared a long time ago, and
he just wanted us to keep an eye

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out for clothing or just something of
his that might be able to point somebody

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in the right direction. And then
from there I looked up his case,

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and then I've started realizing there was
other missing people looked up David Politis's.

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It came across the canam Project,
started reviewing his books, reading through them,

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watching his documentaries, and honestly it's
just that one guy just asking,

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Hey, you guys are out in
that area more often than I get to

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be. Just keep an eye out, and all of a sudden you start

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noticing that there's clusters of missing people
in these certain areas. And as I

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was already creating the big Foot Map, I started mapping where these last known

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locations were or approximately where they were, and using that I accidentally opened in

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both at the same time on Google
Earth, and all of a sudden you

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saw where people saw had full encounters
or heard things or found footsteps was close

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proximity to where somebody disappeared at and
it's all throughout the same corridor as the

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same paths. It's a trip to
really think about. I don't I still

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don't believe one hundred percent that sasquatches
kidnapping people. I can't say that's what's

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happening, but it's a weird coincidence. So the area that we tend to

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go to, especially where I like
to go to, is up in Knee

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Mount Saint Helen's out Adams region.
It's huge, it's very extensive, and

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it is covered in lava tubes found
a geological survey. I think it was

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what you would call it. All
the original lava tubes they found. There

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are thousands and thousands of miles of
lava tubes that shoot through that entire region.

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So if something was pretty good at
cruising, they could get through that

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area and day or night you never
even know it. And I'm talking about

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an area the size of some states. There's nothing out there. It's massive,

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and it's pretty pretty impressive. There
could be something twenty feet from you

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where we're at, you wouldn't even
be able to see it. It's that

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thick with foliage. At times,
it's pretty pretty good country as far as

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the missing person's thing, Like,
everybody's got a different hating on this,

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like what is it? How can
it be? How can something exist up

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in these mountains that people see credibly
credible people see it here. How can

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we haven't ran across? The question
is the bones and this that you know?

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And I don't have any answers because
I don't even know what came through

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Camp. I just know the facts
are it was huge, and it was

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too legged, and they were in
a communication and they were using that dry

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creek bed as a route. Everybody's
got a different stance on what this thing

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is I think, like even Tanner
and I don't one hundred percent agree,

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like he tends to lean more towards
itself. It's existing up there all the

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time, which is a huge theory
of it, and go towards the Row

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and Moorhead direction. These things may
come and go in and out of a

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plane. Because I just don't know
how a hunter hasn't dropped one. I

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just how can a hunter not drop
one with this three light by now doesn't

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make sense to me. The cool
thing about the website is you can actually

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read the reports on there. From
what I've seen, and I'm guessing this

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might be some stuff that you're not
seeing on BFR or these other sites.

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You also have actual bios of the
missing people, which is very cool.

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That would be such an interesting thing
because it's a topic you have to treat

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very delicately. I think because a
lot of these people they still have relatives,

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where the relatives are probably still alive, they may even be trying to

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still deal with this. Have you
ever had situations like that cross into like

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someone contacting and be like, hey, I notice you're looking for my relative

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or anything of that nature. Nope. Outside of that first guy asking us

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to keep an eye out. I
haven't had any anybody really reach out.

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I've taken a few of the cases
that are local to me, like to

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Sean Higgins case in southern Oregon,
the Jeremy Children's case out of Tillamook.

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Those are a little bit more personal
to me because they're easier for me to

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get to and go investigate there in
my neck of the woods. And so

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I would like we're coming up on
the seventh year anniversary of Sean Higgins's disappearance,

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and he's a guy that knew the
area like the back of his hand.

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He had been up there his entire
life and one day went for a

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one hour hike and disappeared, never
seen again. And I know his family

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is still looking for closure, and
that's something that by October I would like

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to get down into that area and
at least try my best for a few

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nights, if not close to a
week and see what we pull up.

406
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And there's just a few cases I've
taken to heart, and I just want

407
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to help provide closure if we can. And what I'm doing with the website

408
00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:07.359
right now by posting these people's bios
and their clothing descriptions. Is if I'm

409
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not in the area and you see
our website, at least you have an

410
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:14.839
idea of what you could possibly be
looking for. Or if you stumble across

411
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:18.599
an article of a personal article of
someone's, you'll be able to tell if

412
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:23.920
it was possibly belonging to someone in
that area that's vanished. It's all about

413
00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:34.119
bringing awareness. I love it when
we have these pursuits where we're trying to

414
00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:38.559
figure out what bigfoot is or we're
trying to find the truth. But when

415
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those can intersect with something where it
really affects someone's life, that is cool

416
00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:49.160
and that it seems like you guys
have found a perfect intersection with that,

417
00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:56.119
and hats off to you for sure. Have you ever experienced a situation where

418
00:31:56.160 --> 00:32:00.640
you're in the woods and things got
a little bit too intense and you're like,

419
00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:05.599
maybe I could do check please?
Or Kelly, you're an outdoor hunter,

420
00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:07.759
you've already said, are you just
like all the time? Give me

421
00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:15.000
that action I want to go.
Yeah, I've never thought to myself,

422
00:32:15.240 --> 00:32:19.440
I want to be out there.
That's it. I never ran across anything

423
00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:23.440
that made me This is was the
only incident in my life that made me

424
00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:29.599
second, guess everything I thought about
the woods, and once that happens,

425
00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:40.359
that's that. There you go.
Yeah, I'm an adrenaline junk but I

426
00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:45.200
also know my limits, so not
trying to get myself hurt, especially now

427
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:49.240
that I haven't kid at home that
needs me in a wife that loves me.

428
00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:53.279
But I am adrenaline junkie. So
when I get these reports, I'm

429
00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:58.480
chopping at the bit to hike into
exact location where those guys were and put

430
00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:01.279
myself in a position similar to where
we can get something to happen. Because

431
00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:08.079
Kelly had his experience and I'm honestly
as nervous as I am to have my

432
00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:13.519
own or maybe see one of these
things. I'm almost very excited for the

433
00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:19.279
possibility of it. Let me interject
on something again, please, because things

434
00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:22.599
come to me, My thoughts come
to me as we continue on with this

435
00:33:22.680 --> 00:33:29.839
discussion. So two weeks after that
incident happened, Tanner and I and was

436
00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:31.400
it three other guys? Do other
guys? We went up to the same

437
00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:35.960
exact location. I'm like, come
on, guys, let's load up.

438
00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:38.960
I got to experience this again.
I got to understand this. So we

439
00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:43.759
went up there and we had a
great time. Just got a bunch of

440
00:33:43.799 --> 00:33:46.759
guys drinking around the fire, relaxing, just like it should be out in

441
00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:52.079
the middle of nowhere. Is fantastic, But it was I had to do

442
00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:55.480
it, and it wasn't. I
had to do it because I love the

443
00:33:55.519 --> 00:33:59.400
woods, and if I didn't get
back into it right away, there was

444
00:33:59.480 --> 00:34:01.400
no way I was going to get
back up there that year or even maybe

445
00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:04.799
the next, because it gets scared
the hell out of me so much.

446
00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:09.360
And in fact, I didn't sleep
neither night we were up there. Yeah,

447
00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:15.880
that's never happened. I usually camp
without a tent, just sleeping back

448
00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:21.719
next to the fire, back back
and in and yeah. So we went

449
00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:24.239
up two weeks later to the exact
same location. I have camped at the

450
00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:29.719
exact location since then with my wife, just her and I, which was

451
00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:35.400
a feat to get her there,
but she went. So it's a pretty

452
00:34:35.400 --> 00:34:38.639
cool place. Hats off to your
wife, because I'm sure she's heard the

453
00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:42.519
story a few times and you're like, hey, want to go check it

454
00:34:42.519 --> 00:34:45.039
out. She doesn't want to hear
it anymore. She doesn't want to hear

455
00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:49.840
it, but she admits it's beautiful, it's incredible there. She loved it.

456
00:34:51.039 --> 00:34:57.280
Guys, I've talked to a lot
of witnesses and recently the witnesses I've

457
00:34:57.280 --> 00:35:01.920
been talking to listeners. Feel for
you to contact me and I'd love to

458
00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:05.840
have a chat with you. But
I've talked to a few guys where they

459
00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:13.559
are experiencing bigfoot on their property and
things are intense. As researchers, as

460
00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:16.840
guys that are in the field,
do you have any advice that people that

461
00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:22.400
might be experiencing a big foot on
their property. They're out in the woods,

462
00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:30.800
the creatures messing around. What might
be some advice for these people that

463
00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:40.079
are a little bit freaked out.
Honestly, we really it's I gotta choose

464
00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:45.280
my words a little carefully. We
don't actually know the species. If it

465
00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:49.400
is a species, we don't actually
know anything about it. We have assumptions,

466
00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:53.840
people have their ideas, their educational
guesses, but really we don't know

467
00:35:53.880 --> 00:35:57.400
anything about it. So I can't
tell you to stand your ground, and

468
00:35:57.400 --> 00:36:01.159
I can't tell you I'm not run
away. I can't tell you to I

469
00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:06.039
don't know what you're supposed to do. If you feel like you're in danger,

470
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:08.960
do the thing that needs to get
you out of there. If something's

471
00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:15.400
happening on your property. Invite people
that you trust to come out and check

472
00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:20.559
out your property. People that are
looking into this, that are not trying

473
00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:22.800
to do it for fame or fortune
or anything. They're doing it for the

474
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:29.079
right reasons, and invite them out. Because there's sections here in the northwest

475
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:32.719
of Oregon that have had sightings on
properties, but because they're private property or

476
00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:39.320
they're owned by large timber companies,
we can't really investigate. I can say

477
00:36:39.400 --> 00:36:46.119
from my experience that looking back,
and it's pretty cool. It's not cool

478
00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:51.079
the first time when it is happening. There's nothing fun about jumping out of

479
00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:55.320
your tent because that's the stuff right
out of nightmares and horror stories. Hearing

480
00:36:55.400 --> 00:36:59.440
something walk next to your tent.
That's exactly what we never want to hear

481
00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:02.039
when we're camping. It's like,
you go to sleep, you're like cool.

482
00:37:02.039 --> 00:37:05.719
I wake up in the morning,
you don't want to hear that.

483
00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:10.840
But looking back, it's not too
bad. It was life changing. I'll

484
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:15.280
give it that. It's a life
changing experience. And I look at the

485
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:17.519
comedy in it. I stepping on
the kids as I'm jumping out of the

486
00:37:17.519 --> 00:37:22.719
tent with the twelve age and watching
Mike run around and as Skibby's yelling at

487
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:27.400
the woods, and you've got to
have some fun with it too. It

488
00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:30.400
was otherwise you dig it deep into
it too far and you might not want

489
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:32.280
to go down that rabbit hole.
So you gotta have a little bit of

490
00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:37.079
fun with it. I think that's
great advice. First, Tanner, you

491
00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:43.199
handled that expertly. That's a tricky
one. I realized how tricky was as

492
00:37:43.239 --> 00:37:45.880
I was saying it. And Kelly, it's a good reminder that. So

493
00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:50.880
this is a topic where you,
guys, you can get in really deep

494
00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:54.719
and you got to have a lifeline. Keep keep that rope there, so

495
00:37:54.840 --> 00:37:59.880
you pull yourself out a little bit
because you don't want to be, as

496
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:06.079
Henry Franzoni says, going too far
down the road to seat co the curse

497
00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:08.960
the big Foot's a real thing and
it might have pat your life a little

498
00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:15.239
bit too much. So keep that
in mind, squatchers out there, guys,

499
00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:21.639
this has been an awesome interview.
You've taken it seriously. You have

500
00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:28.559
your stuff together and you're also keeping
it eye out for people that have gone

501
00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:30.719
missing to see how you can help
with that as well. It's just very

502
00:38:30.840 --> 00:38:37.039
very cool. It's been a fun
interview. I want to give you the

503
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:43.079
chance any closing thoughts you might have. We're still going out. We go

504
00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:46.119
out all the time. We make
it. We've been I've been out twice

505
00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:50.079
or three times this year, even
out twice. We still go up to

506
00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:54.360
these places. Right now. We're
still fighting the snow here. We had

507
00:38:54.760 --> 00:39:00.920
really warm temperatures, and last weekend
I got buried in my wagon just trying

508
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:07.039
to get into a Canyon Creek campground
where Marine Kelly went missing in twenty thirteen.

509
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:12.440
People can look that up. It's
a very bizarre story. I'll let

510
00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:15.079
folks dive into that they want to, But I got buried just trying to

511
00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:21.159
get in there. So we're hampered
by the weather here somewhat, but we

512
00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:23.280
got trips planned all summer long.
We're going to be up in those mountains

513
00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:29.000
and having a good time, trying
to figure out what's going on, setting

514
00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:34.239
up our cameras, enjoying a beer
around the fire, and doing some fishing.

515
00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:37.840
My last thing is we put up
cameras. In October, Kelly was

516
00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:42.480
saying we're trying to reach a certain
elevation, and my cameras have been out

517
00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:47.440
since October and they're still buried under
snow, so we have months. We're

518
00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:52.639
hoping to get up there last bit
of June, maybe early July, but

519
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:54.880
as far as I've been told,
there's still three feet of snow around where

520
00:39:54.880 --> 00:40:00.280
those cameras are, so we will
be one of the first groups to through

521
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:04.320
a snow bank and get up there
and retrieve those Tanner. What's the best

522
00:40:04.360 --> 00:40:09.000
way for listeners to keep up to
date with what Pacific Northwest Bigfoot Search is

523
00:40:09.360 --> 00:40:15.639
doing? If you want to follow
us on social media, either I'm better

524
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:19.639
at Instagram doing stories at least if
I don't have time to update the website,

525
00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:23.480
Facebook, you can also follow on
there. Anything I post Instagram will

526
00:40:23.480 --> 00:40:30.000
also be on Facebook, but also
just the website. Following us on YouTube.

527
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:32.559
We try to post what we're doing, whether it's the hikes that we're

528
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:37.639
going on, our adventures, trying
to make it into certain destinations, just

529
00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:42.239
trying to show people what we're doing
so you can see that we're not just

530
00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:46.599
talking about it. We're going full
send and putting ourselves in a little bit

531
00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:51.920
of risk. Yeah, just follow
us on social media if you want to

532
00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:54.360
send me an email, if you
need to if something comes up, it's

533
00:40:54.400 --> 00:41:01.239
t Hoskins at PNW bigfootsearch dot com. That's my direct. Yeah, I'd

534
00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:06.480
appreciate it. I appreciate any anybody
that wants to follow along and support us

535
00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:08.599
with it. That's awesome. And
Kelly, is that the same way to

536
00:41:08.840 --> 00:41:15.079
keep up to date with what you're
doing as well. I'm not gonna lie.

537
00:41:15.199 --> 00:41:17.639
There's no way to keep up to
date with me on this through tannn.

538
00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:22.599
This is all through Tanner. He's
the techie one. I build things.

539
00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:25.440
That's what I do, all right. I didn't even know I was

540
00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:31.320
co founder for six months, but
I and he's done a great job with

541
00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:37.760
it. Now everything goes through Tanner
on this. I'm the guy that gets

542
00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:40.039
out in the woods and no who
Tanner is too by all means, but

543
00:41:40.559 --> 00:41:43.880
yeah, I'm more of a boots
on the ground type of guy, not

544
00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:47.079
a communication guy. I love that
you guys have a really cool team dynamic

545
00:41:47.119 --> 00:41:52.320
going on. It's awesome. I
would recommend all listeners definitely keep up to

546
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:57.400
date with what these guys are doing. They've got some good stuff going on,

547
00:41:57.480 --> 00:41:59.239
I can tell. But all the
links are going to be in the

548
00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:01.800
show notes. But a Kelly Tanner, thank you so much for coming on

549
00:42:01.880 --> 00:42:05.880
tonight. It's been a fun chat. Thank you for having us. Yeah,

550
00:42:05.920 --> 00:42:07.400
thank you very much. This was
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551
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553
00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:20.880
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554
00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:24.599
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555
00:42:24.639 --> 00:42:30.039
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556
00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:36.840
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557
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561
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562
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563
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564
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565
00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:25.440
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566
00:43:25.639 --> 00:43:27.519
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