Insane Clown Posse Terrifying Bigfoot Encounter Revealed!

0:00 But then it wasn't the branch. It can came stepping. It was like it was staying. It was walking through the woods. Right. Everything you can describe is what I saw, so I don't even care. Man, it looked like it was swinging its arms in it in it. That's I just asked. I thought for a second, but it stopped and then it just rushed me. It just came rushing me. It was, man, it straight trained me because I was so scared that I was frozen. And that's a real genuine thing that can happen. Because I was legit stunned.

0:53 And when it came out of the woods, it was as tall as the stop sign. Welcome Back to Bigfoot Society, a podcast where I talk to people about their bigfoot encounters in a safe and respectful environment. In this episode, I talked to mister Joseph Bruce about his nineteen nineties bigfoot encounter in a suburb of Detroit, Michigan. Mister Bruce is an American rapper, record producer, professional wrestler, author in part of the hip hop duo Insane Clown Posse. This interview does contain language. The heavier language has been edited out of this interview. You can see and hear the uncensored version of this interview over at the Bigfoot Society Patreon. That's Patreon dot com, forward slash the Bigfoot Society. Hence all the new listeners and or juggalos that are listening right now.

1:42 Thank you for listening to Bigfoot Society. I hope you subscribe to the platform that you're listening on. It's a fun ride. You'll want to make sure you're long for it. Share this episode with a friend, and if you've had a big Foot encounter, we'd love to hear about it. Please email me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. All right, let's get on with the show. Remember how I said we're going to the moon and the moon shoes. Yeah, it's today. All right, let's go all right, big fist sciety. We have the privilege of talking with Jay from out there in Detroit, Michigan. How's it going today? Jay's going? Good man? People might be like, what's up man? The painted face?

2:24 Why does this guy have painted face on? Well? Cats out of the bag? Jay, You might be well known for some things. Do you mind sharing what you may be well known for? Well, mostly would be the one happening in same clown posse. We've been rappers. We're from Detroit. We've been rappers for thirty thirty two years now, you know what I'm saying. And I'm fifty one years old, and uh, we've been wearing a clown paint and torn and doing our thing forever. If you don't know me, google mother. It's party time, Jay, It's party time.

3:07 So I got I gotta share the story about how this all came about because it's it's kind of interesting, right. So I was checking Instagram and I noticed that I got interesting follow from Violent Jay, and I was like, is that this is this kind of weird? I gotta I gotta jump into this a little bit. And lo and behold you are a big bigfoot fan. And we got to chat, and of course I was like, welcome to big Foot Society, Violent Jay, how's it going? And the cool thing about big foot societies for people that may not know, it's a platform for people to share their big foot encounters in a safe and respected environment. Right, That's the main reason I have this podcast. And Jay was like, you know, I actually had something I'd like to share, and so welcome to big society, Violent Jay Jay, and thank you. Would you mind sharing what happened to you? Sir? I don't mind it at all. As a matter of fact, I'm a fan of all the you know a lot of the podcasts and YouTube shows and things like that about bigfoot, you know, and I've always wanted to share my encounter with a lot of you know. But I, of course I chosely, I highly intelligently chose my platform, you know what I'm saying. And thus here I am, and I'm privileged, blessed, and honored to share my big Foot encounter.

4:34 But I gotta tell you this, I don't like the way the big foot world is constantly in a battle royal with each other, you know what I mean. And I don't like the way everybody, including myself, sometimes critique other people's big Foot stories. Okay, because bigfoot stories come, as you guys know, come in all varieties, and some of them involved supernaturalness, you know what I mean, and things like that and orbs and big Foot's teleporting, and sometimes people get judgmental about that stuff. But damn it, I was judgmental about bigfoot before I've seen one. So that's what I'm saying, like people, I don't want to be judged by my big Foot story because my big Foot story has some misbeliefs in it that I have a hard time processing and understanding. And I didn't make the ship up. The ship happened to me, you know what I mean? And so I'm gonna tell it like it is, as corny as a lot of it is.

5:54 This is how it went down, and I can be judge. So actually it's okay. I don't mind being judged. I'm judge my whole life. But I don't know, for some reason, when the truth is involved, you can't change the story up to make it sound cool. You know, it's gonna be one way, the way it happened. And here at fifty one, I think about it. A lot of it sounds crazy, but damn it, it's the way it happened, you know what I mean. So what am I gonna do? You know? Yeah? So what I wanted to show you was that I put out a book like in two thousand and four, I believe, and maybe two thousand three. Anyway, it chronicled my life up until that point. Okay, And when you open the book, the first thing you'll see is a story, and it's me telling this story. Okay, this very story, because when it happened to me when I was seventeen. You know, I'm saying sask watches anything, I know, anything like that. So when this shit happened, I thought it was I'll explain it in a minute. But the last thing I thought was that this was a Bigfoot counter until damn. I was probably forty four and my mom called me. My mom told me, Joe, check out Bigfoot

7:26 and I was like, what do you mean. She's like, just watch on YouTube, look into it, just look into it. I was like, my Bigfoot's corner when I look into it. At once. I started looking into it, not only the bit. Then I become fascinated, but I realized, that's quite possibly exactly what I saw, you know what I'm saying. And you know, I got the story in my book Chronicling, and in the entire story, nowhere does it say Bigfoot or sask Watch. That's because I'm a kid from Detroit and I was just not hit to what the hell of sass watch was, you know what I'm saying, or Bigfoot. So I didn't ever put that together with what I saw. You know what I mean. Anyway, I'll tell you. I'll tell you the story.

8:09 Thought bit, I don't care what judge me, everyway, judge away. But here's what happened. So to explain myself. First, at the time, my brother was in the military, okay, and I was planning on going in the military too. I thought as soon as I turned eighteen, I could get into the military. So I was on this heavy workout campaign thing. I'm going running all the time, I'm doing set ups every night, and so to make sense of this is hard, but this is what I was doing. I go through my day and I we'd work out or whatever, me and my friends. But at night I'd get in bed and it'd be the middle of the night. Oh, here goes, here goes the the book I'll tell you about this is my book at the beginning tells monster, you know, because that's what I've seen and that's steal it.

9:18 So so at night I get in my bed, you know, And the first girlfriend I've had, she would leave because she had to work in the morning, and I would she would leave. We'd watch our Cineo hall, the first run Yack in the nineties, I believe, so she'd leave, and I'd be laying there and I'd be just about to fall asleep, and then something would tell me, if the house is on fire right now, you'd have to jump out of bed. You'd have to rescue mom, you know. So to train for that, to properly train for that, and to get yourself ready for basic training and all that, you gotta jump out of bed right now and run about four blocks away into the park where the woods are. In the in the woods, in the center of the woods was a giant hill. Okay, in the center of where this park of woods was is a giant hill. Anyway, it is amazing. Don't make no sense. But I'd be laying there telling myself, you need to do that right now, and I would be like, no, you don't need to go back good and it would be like, yes, you do.

10:33 You need because you can't tell the fire to go back to bed if you had to get up and rescue my eye, you know. So, then I'd also spring out of bed, throw all my shoes on, and just run with my dog out the door. And I'd just start booking as fast as I can from getting winded thinking about it. Running those running the block, another block, all the way up and then I'd get into the woods and i'd run through the woods and there's this gigantic mound at the beginning of the woods, and I run all the way up in and I would scream with my arms out Ultimate Warrior. All right, now, let me point out something right quick, all right, Yes, I'm a wrestling fan.

11:20 All right. Yes, this did not have nothing to do with the Ultimate Warrior. Okay, those two words was a word probably inspired by the Ultimate Warrior, but it was a phrase that my brother and I adapted when we were training and when we were doing crazy things, because you think about it, I'm a warrior, I'm the Ultimate Warrior. Even though it was this wrestler, it was also a good word to use in our you know, moments of bravery or whatever work or celebration, you know what I mean. So I'd run up there and I would yell at every night, oh, Jimmie, it was probably two in the morning, I figured, because Arsenio went off at one, Karen would leave, and I believed that about the fossleep probably been about two. And then I said, I'm out the door, you know, booking through the neighborhood, you know. And this was in a suburb of Detroit right called Ferndale, and I would are actually Ferndale bordering Hazel Park right along like nine miles in ten mile anyway. So I'm running and I'm in the dark woods do that shit every night, you know what I mean. Oh, Jimmie Warriors, man, my brother's in the war I remember, and I'm thinking I'm going in and I was just like, I gotta stop porting myself like this, you know what I mean.

12:54 Like, but I am getting good. Here's where it gets crazy. This one night. I remember all day I was hanging out with my friend and it was one of those days where it was cold and super windy, crazy windy, right, and and I look up and as one of those days where the clouds are going super fast. They're all moving together. There's not a crazy funnel clouds, nothing, but the sky's just going just really fast by, you know. And I was just like, man, it's cold as out here and it's gonna be cold and scary tonight. And I tell him myself already it was like two and he had tonoon. I'm already thinking about no, not tonight, you know. So sure enough, Karen is gotta go for her job at the video store, remember them, But I got z she will go to work there. And I was like, it's so scary. I'm gonna watch her and not only gonna walk her to her car, but I watched her go all the way down the block to the lights. I couldn't see the lights of them more and turn off, you know. So even I was still telling myself I wasn't gonna do it.

14:13 So I go up in the room I lived above my mom, in the attic above, and I went up in there and I was laying there and I walked count the wall and I started saying, if you do it tonight, you you I had to do it for weeks because you did it tonight. I'm telling myself this. I'm like, if you go out tonight and you run out there tonight, on this night, on this terrifying full moon night, with the clouds whipping behind the sky, it's cold as hell. If you bust it out of here and run all those four blocks and through those woods and up that hill tonight, you can take a break for a month. Probably. So I was like boom, and I busted out, and my dogs running at me. Man, I'm busting. I'm busting, busting round that corner, down that block, down this long block.

15:07 And Detroit we got two kinds of blocks. There's like small blocks and the long blocks, even in the suburbs. And man, I'm going down in the long blocks. I run in there, I run up the hill and I turned around and I yell, oh to me, war. And right when I almost finished yelling the word, it seemed like, and I don't think this is relevant to the story, but it was crazy interesting. It seemed like like a punch in the face with a blast of ice cold wind. I was like, oh to me, the wolf and it was like whoa in my eyes watered up super bad, you know what I mean.

15:50 And I was like, oh, face trying to stop me, you know what I mean? And and I was like, I'm doing it again. And I did again that time. There was no custom women. I yelled at ultimate way as a lot as I could. And then I even grabbed my dog and lifted her paws up and yelled with her ultimate war. You know, like, Dad, you just stopped unstoppable, you know. So I wanted to finish cleaning my eyes out whatever I still terrified. The night itself was terrifying. This night did not nothing was right about the whole day, right, And I've been doing this probably two months every night. Right, this whole day I was I never thought about this until it was time to where it hit me. But this whole day, I'm like, I don't want to go out and do this tonight. And I did it.

16:45 So I start running back down the hill, having conquered and yelled the ship, you know. I started running back down the hill and I run up maybe all the way up the first long block, but I don't see my dog nowhere right Anyway, I'm totally winded. I'm blew up, like as they say in wrestling. So I stopped and I'm breathing, and I turned around and I'm looking for the dog, and I see her come running, but not up to me. She just ghosted me and ran right past me, like she came out of the darkness, basically into the because I was kind of under a street light a little bit, but she went random past me and just bolted like like no interest in me. Right, So I look back. Okay, so I'm looking down a street sounds like a never place, you would see something like this, right, But this is what I saw. I'm looking down. It wasn't a city street. I'm not looking tall buildings. We're like off in the suburbs where it connects with the woods or whatever. But I'm looking down the street and I see just some what I thought was a branch falling. Okay, because at the bottom of the hill, I mean at the bottom of the hill through the woods, there's a parking light off to I mean parking lot off to the to the side. So when I saw movement in the woods, I thought a branch

18:15 was falling from from the the winding ship because it was crazy that night, you know, but I and I got a chill, like a seeing something crazy. This giant branch has fallen. But then it wasn't a branch. It can came stepping. It was like it was it was walking through the woods. Right. Everything you can describe is what I saw. So I don't even care. Man, it looked like it was swinging its arms in the in the that's I just asked. I saw it for a second, but it stopped and and then it just rushed me, rushing me. It was, man, it straight trained me because I was so scared that I was frozen. And that's a real genuine thing that can happen because I was legit stunned. And when it came out of the woods, it was as tall as the stop sign, That's what was happening. And its feet looked like like our feet go down, the leg goes down, then the foot goes like that, you know, I'm sorry, legoes down. The foot goes like that, right, his whole leg went down like from the knee, it just went down to a foot. There was no feet. It

19:47 was just like like like like he had bell bottoms on all the way to the floor, you know what I'm saying, And it was just fur and he was just fur the how like like a almost like Tobacca, you know what I'm saying, Just coming at me, bro bro. That was anyway, when I finally got my whims, I turned around and I bulleted, like I just I swear I probably set some kind of record because I was in physical state, right it told matter how fast I was going. I only remember my feet barely connecting with the street, like like in time.

20:30 As I was running, my legs were out running my own ability. And I was the first thought was run up and start banging on somebody's door. And then I was like, what the hell are they gonna do? Watching me get ripped in half on this sports I remember these thoughts because when something happens to you like that, you don't forget it. I remember running and thinking of my what my options, you know what I mean? And the first thought was run up to somebody's bang on. I was like, hey, give me, I'll do thetally can think up a maniac nobody. So then I run around the corner and I didn't even look back. I just kept running to the fastest of my ability. I ran off down down the other corner and uh into my mom's house. And again I remember thinking, start screaming for mom, and I was like, what what is my mom gonna do against bad? You know what I'm saying. What I just saw come barrel and rushing me freight train style right under the light, the street light. I'm literally frozen and stopped looking at it. And it's rushing me, you know what I'm saying. So I ran in the house and I dove under and this is when the phone was on the wall, you knowing the cells and uh, I had I leaned. I remember I was laying under the windows, dead silent, you know, and now like I didn't

22:00 know what to do. I was my heart was beating so fast, you know, and I knocked the phone up the wall, and I called my friend Nat and I was like, oh, right now, and he came pulling up and so he had as little an itemm. You know. I came running over with it, and I was just like, I thought, it wouldn't make no difference against that, you know what I mean. So I just screamed at him to take me away, and I let my mom keep sleeping because I thought even then, I thought everybody's got somebody sleeping in it in the house. I doubt they're gonna attack my my All I need to do if it was after me, all I need to do is get out of here, you know what I'm saying. And that was my thinking, you know. So, But man, you know, the next day, Amy and my brother went out there and did it again and nothing, you know, we did it again for probably. But here's here's what my brother told me. My brother's three years older than me, very accomplished, uh person uh emt Veteran war veteran, you know all that. So my brother was telling me at the time, I never used the word big foot.

23:17 Again, I didn't know bigfoot was. I never thought anybody It was like almost like the Blob, if you talk about the blob or Godzilla, you know what I mean. I didn't think anything about a big foot. So he was like, here's what I think. And we could talk about big switch and cheographic and all that where they're at for sure. But my my brother, my brother was like, he said, this is what I carried in my mind. One of two things that happened, and the likely one is what my brother said. My brother said that hill may have been some sort of Native American burial ground, you know what I mean, you know, centuries ago even who knows right? And he said, by going up but he said, by going up there and yelling those words, okay, in a rush of adrenaline like that, to where you're actually meaning it and you're streaming on the top of that hill ultimate warrior, like you're some kind of ultimate warrior. I'm so, we don't know what it is under that hill. Feeling insulted perhaps, or maybe I'm calling a challenge. Who

24:52 knows right? And when it finally chose to emerge that night, when I did it three times or whatever, it saw me run and it maybe just laughed and said exactly you know what I'm saying, and laughed and laughed. I don't know that, but that was when my brother gave me that possibility. I was like, when I was seventeen, I was like, well, that's probably what what happened. What it was, you know what I'm saying, that's that's probably what happened. And it made the most sense, you know what I'm saying. So, and thank God for my brother and Nate by the way, for pulling up with the with the with the shoddy but but but so so who became a cop later in like in New Jersey.

25:52 So anyway, there's other possibility, right, the more logical but highly not likely, but more lines of gold because it's not involving supernaturalness or demons from the burial ground. The other thing that may have happened is that what if there was some mechanic that lived right on the edge of that park and he worked nights in his garage with his buddy, right, and they're in there and every night they hear some lunatic, did sets or dog off or something screaming? I am right? And so after two or two after a month or two months of that, you know what I mean, who's to say this is the part just highly unlikely? Though? Who's to say they didn't have a friend in Who say they weren't friends with Gonzalez? Or I said a diet right? Some you know Will Tamberlin as somebody, you know what I'm saying? Who somebody massive? Right? Who say Shack ain't their homie on skin in the roller ducks? You know? So? And it

27:22 had a friend, you know, I don't know who walks arounds tall as to stop sign. Okay, I don't know exactly how tall to stop sign is in Detroit, but it's ways taller at me. And the other thing was people have described this thing as like barrel tested and massive, like a like a lineback or whatever. It's definitely what I saw wasn't skinny by any means, but it was athletic that it was coming at me in a massive stride and I didn't hear nothing. It was hard to process because I was coming out of that frozen fear, you know what I mean? You know, you know a a panic attack by the way, This way it was explained to me, is when your brain dumps a chemical. It's like if you turned around and scene a train coming at you or a truck, you're either gonna have the reflexes to jump out of the way or you're gonna be frozen for a second, like, oh, you know, that's that chemical spreading in your body. Record speeds from your brain dumping like panic and you stuck for a second, you know what I mean. So pic a panic attack is like when you're sitting at home and having dinner or whatever you're doing, it all of a sudden, that chemical dumps for no reason. It's like some people just have that problem, including myself, But I understand panic and how extreme it can be, you know what I mean. And seeing

28:55 something like that, it's something you're never gonna forget that whole experience. And yeah, man, and years and years later, I look at it, man, and I'm like, Okay, what if it was a big foot, right, because that's exactly what it looked like to me, you know what I mean? And I think, uh, first of all, if two things would have to be crazy. Number one, that craziest night m hmm. I mean it could have happened on any night if it was just a curious saspotches on the edge of the woods, you know, coming out looking for trash or something to eat, you know, I don't know what, and hurting me, yelling that's what don't seem right? I would have come tires and I wouldn't it hate or why wouldn't it leave and hide?

29:45 Why would it bulldogs me like that? You might come too close to like maybe it's where it's uh, it's family was, or like you're getting too close to its special like zone ow sasquatch zone, who knows, I don't know, you know, it's it's I think, like, what if it was a young sasquatcho who I don't know what age, who knows anything? Right? But what if it was a young sasquatch who's tired of following around all the time and wants to go off on his own right, and so he's off in a place he shouldn't be. He's looking for food, and he's been off now for like three days, hiding out in a tree at night or you know, in a day or whatever. You know, what if it's doing that right and it just is where it shouldn't be, you know, because who knows even if somebody shot it in their yard or something, the government's just gonna come take it. It's not like it's gonna be on the front page next morning. That guy's disappearing pretty quick. That's right, that's what's going And that was a raccoon you shot it? Put all that wasn't understand that was a raccoon. That's we're not talking about no more.

31:00 We know what you We know your wife works and all. Your son's just graduating college, right that this still happened. That was a rack hone jay. Did you see its face at all when it was chasing you? Yeah, it was like, No, I can't. I can't describe his eyes. I can't describe its facial features because honestly, all I all I remember is there was a face. It wasn't the same as his hair, in his in his arms and everything coming at me. It was a bear, not a bear, but not It wasn't the same as is everything else you know, like it, you know, and it was, But the rest of my attention was all on what he was doing, like the whole movements of his body. At first time, Like when I was watching it through the woods, I just was like trying to understand how I came to the Excuse me, I can't hear the conclusion that it was a person I was seeing walking walking through the woods, because I didn't understand how he can be so big, you know what I mean? Like I knew it was far away, but once I knew it wasn't a massive branch that was falling, I didn't understand how person because and then when it came out and it hit into the parking lot, that was it. Man, It just I

32:31 got a I got a chance. And that's why I was froze, because it was just coming at me. And I was just almost as every when I was seeing man trying to process it and fear will give you a hernia. Wow, alright, that's attention is an understatement, all right, because they didn't come down for two weeks. But the thing was looking back now of course, Uh you know, I got the more probable explanation that it was some sort of you know, joke being played on me somehow, some high budget you know, craziness to scare one seventeen year old, you know what I mean? Because I don't know what could explain what I saw.

33:21 And uh, I was like, I was like a clean napkin on a clean white silk handkerchief tied to an antenna of a car before it leaves California drive cross country. You know, Jay, did you did you go back to the area and look for tracks or anything like that? Yeah, me and my well, me and my brother did when he came home, you know what I mean, my brother from in the in the in the war. But I was he was coming home anyway when when at the time, and it wasn't it wasn't the way I remember it. We went back several times, you know what I mean. And I think we even tried to go on Devil's Night in Halloween in Detroit. There's a Devil's Night is the night before Halloween, right especially back then, you know. But we tried to go back because my brother was the only one that actually believed me.

34:21 You know what I'm saying. My brother was the only one that actually believed me. But you know, I went. I went with my brother Shaggy, who's I called my brother. You know, we went and uh back there in the day and all that, you know what I'm saying, but I didn't go We didn't go back there and try to resummon anything or whatever until my until later. You know what I mean, You went back and you tried to do some more Ultimate Warrior and tried to Yeah, when my brother came home. Yeah, yeah, when my brother came homever military. You know. Wow. Yeah, we did this story, Jay, that's an incredible story. It's embarrassing. Know, if I was watching this, I'd be like, oh man, that ain't even hardly a big foot, because I've seen heard some craziness, you know, I mean people, some people's stories. You know what My favorite big foot stories are. Tell me more. When when people say they became friends with a sasquatch, Oh sure, you know what I mean, Like in they they befriended one and and and what it was like. I I like hearing that because if it's told well, you know what I mean, it could be really cool, you know, and more possible to believe. But if it's you know what I mean, because I want to believe. Do you do you believe? Brother?

35:42 Do you believe? Absolutely? Dude? I have had some I had some things happen to me in Iowa when I was out with my friend Tate Horonymous and man, we were looking for sasquatch out in Iowa and we had wood knocks, we had a tree pushed over in front of us. And on my audio recorder three forty five am that night, something on zip my tent and I didn't leave the ten at all. Dude. That's wild stuff, right, and that you can look up tap dot Horonymous on YouTube and you can watch he made a documentary on it. And it's the sounds there. Man, it's wild. So I believe in it. Man, Yeah, well I do too. I mean, you know, like if if I if I was on a if they if like if they had me in a guillotine and they're like, do you think there are sasquatches? Yes, you know, your life is in the line, you know what I mean.

36:31 We know the answer. But if you're wrong, you know, if you're right, you can live or something. This is it. You know. I would probably have to say I had to say I seen you sign. You know, I say I know what I saw it. If I hallucinated. That was the only time ever in my life, you know what I mean, and stuff like that has ever happened. I have a history of sea your monsters or dragons and shit like that's the only time I ever saw anything like that, you know what I mean, Like it was outrageous man. You know. Also I have said, yeah, man, what do you think of what do you think of Todd? Standing? So okay, all right, uh, I don't think anyone watched this episode anyways, jay No. So Todd is an interesting figure, right, And I will say hats off to you because I saw your interview with him on your live stream a year or so ago. It's very well done. I was, you know, I was very surprised. You guys are excellent interviewers, and that was a great interview with Todd. You know, the video he is captured is so much different than other representations of sasquatch. It is a thing though that I would I would definitely want to go up there to the area in British Columbia myself before passing judgment, because I don't know if that's that's fair to do that without actually going up there. But if I was to

38:05 say look at it, I'd be like, oh, I don't know if that's a normal looking sasquatch, but what is normal about a sasquatch? You know, right. And the worst thing about bigfoots, and I say it all the time, is bigfoots look like a guy in a suit. Sure. I mean like every single time you see a footage of it, it's like I said, kind of suit. If bigfoots are real, that's a guy. What a guy in a suit looks like? You know what I'm saying, Like only giant. Like that's why everybody's gonna say that, because it's a walking thing that ain't a guy in a suit though it's a thing I'm saying like it's it's not like it's not like you're saying it's a dragon or or like a mothman or something. It's like a possible thing from like evolution, you know what I mean, and impossible you know link between a a gorilla and man, you know what I mean, somewhere in the center of that or something. You know that that whose existence is reliable on being elusive, you know what I'm saying, that that could be with the specie believes. It's like it's almost like the the their existence is smart enough to know to stay away from man. You know what I mean. They're smart?

39:27 Yeah, yeah, man, because if they wouldn't They probably knew, they probably saw. They're probably friends with the natives, right and actually helping in the crops and things, as the legend said, has it. But when the Europeans came, then didn't our stands? So they're shooting and then they became less and less and fearful, you know what I mean for their existence, and now their entire existence relies on being elusive, you know what I mean? In hidden and I and absolutely there's areas like southeast Oklahoma that is so remote but it gets so much rain and there's these Sasquatch there and like no one can touch them because they're so far out in the mountains except for like the NYWAC, which there's these hardcore guys that go out and study big Foot in the mountains of Oklahoma. Crazy stuff. Chay, Hey, brother, I know listen, I was about to go out Todd. I do. I was about to go out with Todd. So I was going to ask you. I know you you wanted to go out with him.

40:31 Heard that interview, But did that happen? Well, first time we are booked. You know what I'm saying. We are literally going I believe in two weeks from but my girlfriend passed away. You know, It's all good, Obama and listen, that was no. I appreciate that, you know, we but that I had to be like, I ain't coming out there right now, you know what I'm saying, not the right So yeah, so we had to cancel on him. So we had another excursion plan, you know what I'm saying, just recently, not too recently, maybe two months ago. That's pretty recent, right, that is very recent. Yeah, so we had another excursion plan right now. Seeing this girl, and I was like, come on a big but uh, you know, and it's sounds that donte place to bring some chicks, you know what I mean?

41:30 Out on the bottle fire looking tide, standing looking for me a big foot, because bro, if he's got some eight foot home, he running around in the big foot suit in the middle of the night, you know, and he because he's here's the way he does it. You understand, he's a genius either way. You gotta know this bro, all right, all right, First of all, if he if he's a big foot, if he if he's faking it, he's actually got built both made that documentary, built those masks and have whatever he's done and have everybody sport the secretcy or whatever whatever his secrets are, you know I'm saying. And now he charges people and brings them out to that location. Right, Some people have sightings, he said, some his website says, some people hear things, you know what I'm saying. Some people have nothing, you know what I mean. But he's constantly out there doing that, bringing people out there, you know what I mean. Is the way I understand it. And I'm like, that's genius if he thought of that all up. Like, I'm gonna make a documentary that I film these real sasquatches right in the face, you know, and then I'm gonna have it come out on YouTube and it's gonna blow up and everybody's gonna think I know a spot, you know what I mean. And I'm much charge of all and bring them all in and come to see. And every once in a while, I'm at big Tim seven foot nine, uncle, you know what i mean, run around in the task in a tobacco suit, in through the woods and he tells everybody, you know, here's the thing that rupp in Canada, Right, he

43:02 was up in Canada. Yeah, radium. Yeah, So I can't nobody can bring me and my boys can't bring no weapons up there, you know what I mean. No, I got all the weapon. Great, you know what I mean. He's like, I got the piece right here on the hill, you know. And then we hear bush bushes about settle down, everybody, stay where you're seated. I got this, you know what I mean. And then he comes running back. That's an interesting way to look at it. Or or we're all just sitting there and somebody's talking to us. So he's like lock and he points over and you just see this guy in the moon like running across the field of the saspa suit. You know what I mean. You know what I mean, Like he's actually pulling that off. That's dope to me in a sense, like as from a hustler standpoint, he's getting paid now, flip side of all that, right, that's just the street. That's the street in me. What I mean, like it is, I respect the hustle like that idea. So I'm talking about this just a couple months ago. You know, I'm here wild and now brother, I'm so I'm thinking I'm I'm coming to the to the camp and Sasquatches might show up and this is gonna be fun. He my brother's like, he wants to talk on the phone, you know, I mean, he wants to Yeah, he wants to talk on phone. And I was like why man, you know, I like him? And then we're question to him. I'm like, my brother set it up. He's like, no, he wants to talk on phone. So I get on the phone right and the first thing we start talking about is he's talking about

44:36 how nature man has lost touch with nature, you know what I mean. And when he when he proves that sasquatches exist, it's gonna become such a hot commodity, a topic or whatever that it's gonna reignite man's passion for nature, you know what I mean. And I was like, damn, that's ship. That's a what do you think? But that's a lot, that's a big mission, you know, So that's dope. Then he's like, first thing is being safe. Be ready for a lot of walking, you know what I mean. And I'm like, hold upsot, I'm like, I don't know about all that walking. What about a floor wheeler or something?

45:17 What about he said, He's like, no, we're gonna have to do some walking, and I'm like, man, I was walking, you know, and he's like just being shape and I'm like all right. And then he was like and no substances, no nothing, you know, and I think he's talking about we can't even we have a snow snores. Is that all right? You know? He's like, because if you he said, if you're alleviated in anyway in tops cool, I gots my boy. He gave me a plaster of a big foot print, and I love it. You know, I'm just having a bedroom wall, all right. But you know, he said, if you're need be in any way, the sasquash will sense that and it won't come, you know what I mean.

46:07 And I'm like, well they didn't come have a beer with us. Okay, I'm playing, but I just don't like the idea going out there with my girlfriend and her friends and telling everybody we can't no beer at night around the bottom Firesqua just don't like beer. It just don't make just didn't sound right. Like. The trip started to become like, I don't know, I'm lazy, man. I didn't I would like to go on location, but here's the main reason. Okay, he was like, where the documentary was shot is snowed out this time of year. So but I know a different location we can go to in Washington or in Oregon or something like that.

46:55 And I was like, here's my thinking. Here's my thinking, bro, this is where Todd's slipping. And I'm talking as Todd's as Todd's friend and as a fellow hustler. Okay, I got clown pin on my face. Don't forget. I can see that Todd is slipping because if he happened to catch Bigfoot on film let alone, three, right, or however many he did in that documentary, if he happened to go out there that weekend and catch those Sasquatch, a family, a Sasquatch on film, that would have been a miracle, right, absolutely, come on, now a miracle let alone. This is where he's slipping is Now he knows two locations where the big foots are. I'm like, oh, you just know two now?

47:59 You know what I mean. You caught big Foot on film, You know what I mean? Like multiple times on that trip out there. You know the female want looking one. You got him all in the face, running up a mountain, hiding up a tree. All right, you got mad lucky you're the man. You already got the belt. You know what I'm saying, You're the camp right, Yep, totally yeah. Sin then when I go to his YouTube clips, he's like, I don't know if he hears up sometimes like he shit looks at other views of sasquatches and he says, he says, uh, yes, that's very similar to the way sasquatches I've seen sasquatch wants to walk like that. And then you're like, how many sasquatches has he seen? You know what I mean? And how does he know where all the sasquatches are? And I love Todd standing And I said at the beginning, I don't know why it's always royal lumbo out here in the big foot world. I get it, it's a royal rumble for sure. Yeah, but at the same time, it's hard for everybody not to be like that because we all want to believe, okay, and when somebody starts talking about something that's hard for us to believe, you know what I mean. As a person, it gets to be frustrating. You're like, damn, you had me for years, but now when I look at you, you act like you know all the hot spots all over western

49:30 US and Canada, and you say it's because of your sasquad sensus, And that's more hard for me to believe in. It's like you can believe in the Patterson Gilman like they happen to catch it. They caught them, They caught it the sixties seven they had him, you know, Patty, they had run believe in that Patterson Gilman film. Of course I do. Oh yeah, I do, Absolutely, I do. I do. That's probably one of the main reasons I do believe, you know what I mean. But but I've seen other foot did I choose to believe? You know, I've seen the one you don't eat in man. But but listen, let me be clear on time. Yeah, yeah, he probably wouldn't like my humor. And I don't know if we'd have to talk about sasquatches the whole time, you know what I mean, Like like dog, how about only to get off the sasquatch since fourteen hour combo, you know what I mean?

50:20 Like it? How about them? You know? I don't know, but I just I love time. I just like keep it like that. I was like, maybe I better not go camping with him for the next four days often. Maybe it'll work sometime in the future. Who knows. Yeah, I know you guys is a tight en it. Well. I love tis Danny. He came out my show, on our show. He's my boy. And what time we're saying? You fold on the sasquatches? Come on, dog, the one you have us alve stop already. So I'm a dick. I am a dick, now you get It's it's cool to talk honestly. But the thing about you know, that area is crazy squatchy. There's a huge chance you could see something up there. But the cool thing about big foot society is I invite people of all backgrounds to come on tell their story. And uh, you know, no hate, so no, no doctor, please please everybody. Yeah, come on, they'll no. I'm not blaming. I'm not just and todd love. I got love time. Oh yeah, come on, man, let's all we love time for real? John listen, Oh tell me, tell me more.

51:35 One more thing? All right, I got a question for you, brother. Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry if I'm geeking out, man, it's my I'm good to talk to big foot people. I'm loving this, dude, and I'm loving this brother. Listen. Have you ever heard the story from the two girls that grew up on a farm with their grandfathers raising basic basically a baby sasquatch. No, I've never heard the story. Oh he's serious. Where does this take place? Oh? Man, hope somebody listening and can tell us, because I can't remember the name. But listen, it's a story to the writer is writing the story. But the story is the two girls were their grandfather had burned a big, huge pile of logs.

52:22 I believe at the beginning of the story, the little girls were probably seven and eight or something like that, and their grandfather burned a big thing in logs, and he heard some screaming and he went over there and it was a baby sasquatch. And he pulled it out of the logs and the smoke, and he put it in his barn. In that night, something came and broke it out of there from the outside, like they believed, like it was probably its parents or something came broke the sasquatch out right. Two nights later, it was back and he put it back in the barn, and it just and he would feed it and it would go back into and after a while they would ring a big bell and it would come out and eat, and the girls would hide up in the trees because it wouldn't come out if the girls were around, you know what I mean. And the girls said it taught the grandpa how to pull fish out of the river, and he raised it from when it was a baby by feeding it all the time. And but they never had like too much physical connection, you know what I mean. It was just like he would it would trust them and they would sit there together and stuff. And it's a fascinating out of all the big foot stuff I've seen and read, that story is fascinating, man, because these two girls, according to the writer of the book, and it's an audio book, and I'm hoping somebody will hear what I'm saying and know what I'm talking about. It's a it's a it's a They grew up on a farm, I believe in North Carolina. And it is the coolest, most highly detailed story. And the woman writing the book is interviewing

53:55 these two sisters trying to catch them in lies, like she's telling you in the book, and it's an audiobook too, but she's telling you how she's trying to catch them up but they're there is no catching them up because they both were like raised in the same thing. And they talk about how one part in the book they talk about how the girls they're now in like high school and they're dating these college kids. Right, So something happened in the main house. There was some sort of issue. So they were having they were staying out in a trailer next to the farm, in a trailer, and they were having holiday dinner, and the old man forgot to feed the Sasswatch. So they're having holiday dinner and there was a rous circle in the wall where a fan would go into this trailer, but it was no fan in there. And the college kid is sitting there in the kidchen. They're all talking, laughing, having holiday dinner, and the sasswatch reaches in, you know what I mean. It grabs the kids shoulder, and the kids screaming, and she's giant hand catches midsize. He's screaming, and the old man's like, oh damn. It fade up and she's like feeding while he's like giving dog food. So she just filled up a big bowl of dog food and went out there and set it down, and she said it looked at her and set and did what she believed was saying thank you in the grab of the food and blessed with it. You know what I mean, said thank you or something to that gesture. You know, but when you

55:30 hear the way she describes it, you know, anyway in the book, so she's like, this is where I caught him. So she's like, what was the kid's name? Because when the lady the girl who's now like my age, these girls are like not my age now like fifty right, She's like, what was your boyfriend's name? He's like Jimmie slam saying or whatever. You know, she knew the name or whatever. She's like, look the dude up. She found the dude, and the dude came to a grab me. It's a bigfoot. They live with bagfoot out there. That's why I love this book. It's the most convincing because she did her research of these girls trying to prove them wrong, and it's the most detailed, convincing story of what I think a sas watch would be. You know what I mean, One more thing, one thing, another detail I remember thinking who would make that up? She also goes into other details where it's just like I think like sounds exactly what I believe would happen, you know what I'm saying, Like it's and how it sounds believable, and as the woman writing the book does the research, it has a fascinating ending at the end. Man, I just advise it to everybody. Man if if someone watching knows what book this is, put it in the comments so we can check it out. And Jay, I got one more question for you, ask my man. This is from so my friend Asher's from on Wednesday Days

57:00 we Talk Weird Pat podcast. She was like, you gotta ask Jay, is the whoop whoop? Is that like the Bigfoot whoop? You know, the whoop whoop that ICP does. Is that the same thing as the big Foot whoop? That's so weird because I never really put them together, you know, I mean I did before recently, but because we put it on a we did like a big foot jersey, you know, all right, and and we were trying to think of what to put on the back, and we were like, well, you know, big person are like whoo whoop, and we're like, but that's sort of what we do, whoop whoop. You know, maybe there's some sort of connection there. Man, maybe who knows who never but I never did make that connection. But maybe it's all writing within the same dimension, you know what I mean? Somehow that makes any sense? Jay, It's been so fun talking to you.

57:53 I want to be respectful of your time. If you ever have any other friends that have seen Bigfoot, send in my way to Bigfoot Society. I'd love to talk to him. Uh Juggalos if you're watching this, email me Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. If you've seen Bigfoot, Jay, is there anything you want to share? Like? How can people keep up to date with what you're doing? All that good stuff? My Instagram at violent Jay dot I CP and that's probably the best way, you know, or or the real ice what is it? The real ICP, the real ICP on Instagram or Facebook and all that, you know what I mean. But we're always doing this, man, We I have fun. Man. Hey, one quick question. You've ever seen you ever seen that movie Bigfoot Country?

58:45 I haven't actually is it good? Man? It's a it's dope. It's a low budget movie, but it's just funny and it's dope. Man. I'm gonna check it out. I'm gonna chat. You've got to up boy WICHI Mac. He was like that movie sucked. I was like, you're crazy. That movie was freshed. You gotta watch In Search of Bigfoot from the seventies. It's so good. You will love it. You've seen it with Robert W. Morgan I met him. That's all creepy, weird and black and white and crazy, right, so good. I love it. I love it. I love It's a cool he is he is. But thank you, brother. We can do this again, man, I love I love If you haven't need a panel or anything, just looking at anything, prop can love it. Man. We'll be in touch, Jay, Thanks so much for reaching out. Brother. Thank you, my man, peace huge. Thank you to Violent Jay from ICP first stopping by the podcast and talking all about Bigfoot with me, sharing his Bigfoot encounter story from the nineties. Such a good conversation. Thank you to all the new listeners and or juggalos for stopping buy it and hanging out. Make sure you're subscribed to whatever platform you're listening on so that you can continue to hang out with Bigfoot Society down the road. We have episodes that come out every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. Plenty of new Bigfoot Encounters. You're gonna love it.

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