Insane Clown Posse Terrifying Bigfoot Encounter Revealed!

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But then it wasn't the branch.
It can came stepping. It was like

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it was staying. It was walking
through the woods. Right. Everything you

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can describe is what I saw,
so I don't even care. Man,

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it looked like it was swinging its
arms in it in it. That's I

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just asked. I thought for a
second, but it stopped and then it

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just rushed me. It just came
rushing me. It was, man,

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it straight trained me because I was
so scared that I was frozen. And

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that's a real genuine thing that can
happen. Because I was legit stunned.

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And when it came out of the
woods, it was as tall as the

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stop sign. Welcome Back to Bigfoot
Society, a podcast where I talk to

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people about their bigfoot encounters in a
safe and respectful environment. In this episode,

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I talked to mister Joseph Bruce about
his nineteen nineties bigfoot encounter in a

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suburb of Detroit, Michigan. Mister
Bruce is an American rapper, record producer,

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professional wrestler, author in part of
the hip hop duo Insane Clown Posse.

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This interview does contain language. The
heavier language has been edited out of

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a fun ride. You'll want to make

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sure you're long for it. Share
this episode with a friend, and if

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you've had a big Foot encounter,
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email me at Bigfoot Society at gmail
dot com. All right, let's get

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on with the show. Remember how
I said we're going to the moon and

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the moon shoes. Yeah, it's
today. All right, let's go all

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right, big fist sciety. We
have the privilege of talking with Jay from

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out there in Detroit, Michigan.
How's it going today? Jay's going?

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Good man? People might be like, what's up man? The painted face?

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Why does this guy have painted face
on? Well? Cats out of

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the bag? Jay, You might
be well known for some things. Do

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you mind sharing what you may be
well known for? Well, mostly would

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be the one happening in same clown
posse. We've been rappers. We're from

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Detroit. We've been rappers for thirty
thirty two years now, you know what

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I'm saying. And I'm fifty one
years old, and uh, we've been

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wearing a clown paint and torn and
doing our thing forever. If you don't

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know me, google mother. It's
party time, Jay, It's party time.

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So I got I gotta share the
story about how this all came about

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because it's it's kind of interesting,
right. So I was checking Instagram and

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I noticed that I got interesting follow
from Violent Jay, and I was like,

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is that this is this kind of
weird? I gotta I gotta jump

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into this a little bit. And
lo and behold you are a big bigfoot

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fan. And we got to chat, and of course I was like,

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welcome to big Foot Society, Violent
Jay, how's it going? And the

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cool thing about big foot societies for
people that may not know, it's a

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platform for people to share their big
foot encounters in a safe and respected environment.

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Right, That's the main reason I
have this podcast. And Jay was

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like, you know, I actually
had something I'd like to share, and

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so welcome to big society, Violent
Jay Jay, and thank you. Would

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you mind sharing what happened to you? Sir? I don't mind it at

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all. As a matter of fact, I'm a fan of all the you

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know a lot of the podcasts and
YouTube shows and things like that about bigfoot,

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you know, and I've always wanted
to share my encounter with a lot

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of you know. But I,
of course I chosely, I highly intelligently

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chose my platform, you know what
I'm saying. And thus here I am,

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and I'm privileged, blessed, and
honored to share my big Foot encounter.

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But I gotta tell you this,
I don't like the way the big

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foot world is constantly in a battle
royal with each other, you know what

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I mean. And I don't like
the way everybody, including myself, sometimes

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critique other people's big Foot stories.
Okay, because bigfoot stories come, as

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you guys know, come in all
varieties, and some of them involved supernaturalness,

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you know what I mean, and
things like that and orbs and big

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Foot's teleporting, and sometimes people get
judgmental about that stuff. But damn it,

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I was judgmental about bigfoot before I've
seen one. So that's what I'm

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saying, like people, I don't
want to be judged by my big Foot

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story because my big Foot story has
some misbeliefs in it that I have a

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hard time processing and understanding. And
I didn't make the ship up. The

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ship happened to me, you know
what I mean? And so I'm gonna

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tell it like it is, as
corny as a lot of it is.

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This is how it went down,
and I can be judge. So actually

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it's okay. I don't mind being
judged. I'm judge my whole life.

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But I don't know, for some
reason, when the truth is involved,

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you can't change the story up to
make it sound cool. You know,

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it's gonna be one way, the
way it happened. And here at fifty

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one, I think about it.
A lot of it sounds crazy, but

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damn it, it's the way it
happened, you know what I mean.

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So what am I gonna do?
You know? Yeah? So what I

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wanted to show you was that I
put out a book like in two thousand

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and four, I believe, and
maybe two thousand three. Anyway, it

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chronicled my life up until that point. Okay, And when you open the

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book, the first thing you'll see
is a story, and it's me telling

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this story. Okay, this very
story, because when it happened to me

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when I was seventeen. You know, I'm saying sask watches anything, I

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know, anything like that. So
when this shit happened, I thought it

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was I'll explain it in a minute. But the last thing I thought was

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that this was a Bigfoot counter until
damn. I was probably forty four and

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my mom called me. My mom
told me, Joe, check out Bigfoot

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and I was like, what do
you mean. She's like, just watch

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on YouTube, look into it,
just look into it. I was like,

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my Bigfoot's corner when I look into
it. At once. I started

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looking into it, not only the
bit. Then I become fascinated, but

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I realized, that's quite possibly exactly
what I saw, you know what I'm

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saying. And you know, I
got the story in my book Chronicling,

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and in the entire story, nowhere
does it say Bigfoot or sask Watch.

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That's because I'm a kid from Detroit
and I was just not hit to what

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the hell of sass watch was,
you know what I'm saying, or Bigfoot.

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So I didn't ever put that together
with what I saw. You know

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what I mean. Anyway, I'll
tell you. I'll tell you the story.

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Thought bit, I don't care what
judge me, everyway, judge away.

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But here's what happened. So to
explain myself. First, at the

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time, my brother was in the
military, okay, and I was planning

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on going in the military too.
I thought as soon as I turned eighteen,

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I could get into the military.
So I was on this heavy workout

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campaign thing. I'm going running all
the time, I'm doing set ups every

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night, and so to make sense
of this is hard, but this is

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what I was doing. I go
through my day and I we'd work out

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or whatever, me and my friends. But at night I'd get in bed

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and it'd be the middle of the
night. Oh, here goes, here

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goes the the book I'll tell you
about this is my book at the beginning

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tells monster, you know, because
that's what I've seen and that's steal it.

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So so at night I get in
my bed, you know, And

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the first girlfriend I've had, she
would leave because she had to work in

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the morning, and I would she
would leave. We'd watch our Cineo hall,

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the first run Yack in the nineties, I believe, so she'd leave,

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and I'd be laying there and I'd
be just about to fall asleep,

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and then something would tell me,
if the house is on fire right now,

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you'd have to jump out of bed. You'd have to rescue mom,

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you know. So to train for
that, to properly train for that,

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and to get yourself ready for basic
training and all that, you gotta jump

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out of bed right now and run
about four blocks away into the park where

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the woods are. In the in
the woods, in the center of the

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woods was a giant hill. Okay, in the center of where this park

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of woods was is a giant hill. Anyway, it is amazing. Don't

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make no sense. But I'd be
laying there telling myself, you need to

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do that right now, and I
would be like, no, you don't

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need to go back good and it
would be like, yes, you do.

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You need because you can't tell the
fire to go back to bed if

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you had to get up and rescue
my eye, you know. So,

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then I'd also spring out of bed, throw all my shoes on, and

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just run with my dog out the
door. And I'd just start booking as

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fast as I can from getting winded
thinking about it. Running those running the

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block, another block, all the
way up and then I'd get into the

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woods and i'd run through the woods
and there's this gigantic mound at the beginning

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of the woods, and I run
all the way up in and I would

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scream with my arms out Ultimate Warrior. All right, now, let me

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point out something right quick, all
right, Yes, I'm a wrestling fan.

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All right. Yes, this did
not have nothing to do with the

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Ultimate Warrior. Okay, those two
words was a word probably inspired by the

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Ultimate Warrior, but it was a
phrase that my brother and I adapted when

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we were training and when we were
doing crazy things, because you think about

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it, I'm a warrior, I'm
the Ultimate Warrior. Even though it was

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this wrestler, it was also a
good word to use in our you know,

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moments of bravery or whatever work or
celebration, you know what I mean.

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So I'd run up there and I
would yell at every night, oh,

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Jimmie, it was probably two in
the morning, I figured, because

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Arsenio went off at one, Karen
would leave, and I believed that about

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the fossleep probably been about two.
And then I said, I'm out the

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door, you know, booking through
the neighborhood, you know. And this

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was in a suburb of Detroit right
called Ferndale, and I would are actually

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Ferndale bordering Hazel Park right along like
nine miles in ten mile anyway. So

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I'm running and I'm in the dark
woods do that shit every night, you

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know what I mean. Oh,
Jimmie Warriors, man, my brother's in

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the war I remember, and I'm
thinking I'm going in and I was just

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like, I gotta stop porting myself
like this, you know what I mean.

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Like, but I am getting good. Here's where it gets crazy.

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This one night. I remember all
day I was hanging out with my friend

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and it was one of those days
where it was cold and super windy,

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crazy windy, right, and and
I look up and as one of those

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days where the clouds are going super
fast. They're all moving together. There's

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not a crazy funnel clouds, nothing, but the sky's just going just really

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fast by, you know. And
I was just like, man, it's

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cold as out here and it's gonna
be cold and scary tonight. And I

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tell him myself already it was like
two and he had tonoon. I'm already

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thinking about no, not tonight,
you know. So sure enough, Karen

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is gotta go for her job at
the video store, remember them, But

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I got z she will go to
work there. And I was like,

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it's so scary. I'm gonna watch
her and not only gonna walk her to

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her car, but I watched her
go all the way down the block to

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the lights. I couldn't see the
lights of them more and turn off,

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you know. So even I was
still telling myself I wasn't gonna do it.

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So I go up in the room
I lived above my mom, in

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the attic above, and I went
up in there and I was laying there

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and I walked count the wall and
I started saying, if you do it

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tonight, you you I had to
do it for weeks because you did it

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tonight. I'm telling myself this.
I'm like, if you go out tonight

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and you run out there tonight,
on this night, on this terrifying full

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moon night, with the clouds whipping
behind the sky, it's cold as hell.

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If you bust it out of here
and run all those four blocks and

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through those woods and up that hill
tonight, you can take a break for

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a month. Probably. So I
was like boom, and I busted out,

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and my dogs running at me.
Man, I'm busting. I'm busting,

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busting round that corner, down that
block, down this long block.

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And Detroit we got two kinds of
blocks. There's like small blocks and the

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long blocks, even in the suburbs. And man, I'm going down in

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the long blocks. I run in
there, I run up the hill and

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I turned around and I yell,
oh to me, war. And right

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when I almost finished yelling the word, it seemed like, and I don't

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think this is relevant to the story, but it was crazy interesting. It

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seemed like like a punch in the
face with a blast of ice cold wind.

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I was like, oh to me, the wolf and it was like

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whoa in my eyes watered up super
bad, you know what I mean.

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And I was like, oh,
face trying to stop me, you know

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what I mean? And and I
was like, I'm doing it again.

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And I did again that time.
There was no custom women. I yelled

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at ultimate way as a lot as
I could. And then I even grabbed

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my dog and lifted her paws up
and yelled with her ultimate war. You

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know, like, Dad, you
just stopped unstoppable, you know. So

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I wanted to finish cleaning my eyes
out whatever I still terrified. The night

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itself was terrifying. This night did
not nothing was right about the whole day,

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right, And I've been doing this
probably two months every night. Right,

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this whole day I was I never
thought about this until it was time

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to where it hit me. But
this whole day, I'm like, I

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don't want to go out and do
this tonight. And I did it.

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So I start running back down the
hill, having conquered and yelled the ship,

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you know. I started running back
down the hill and I run up

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maybe all the way up the first
long block, but I don't see my

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dog nowhere right Anyway, I'm totally
winded. I'm blew up, like as

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they say in wrestling. So I
stopped and I'm breathing, and I turned

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around and I'm looking for the dog, and I see her come running,

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but not up to me. She
just ghosted me and ran right past me,

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like she came out of the darkness, basically into the because I was

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kind of under a street light a
little bit, but she went random past

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me and just bolted like like no
interest in me. Right, So I

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look back. Okay, so I'm
looking down a street sounds like a never

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place, you would see something like
this, right, But this is what

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I saw. I'm looking down.
It wasn't a city street. I'm not

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looking tall buildings. We're like off
in the suburbs where it connects with the

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woods or whatever. But I'm looking
down the street and I see just some

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what I thought was a branch falling. Okay, because at the bottom of

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the hill, I mean at the
bottom of the hill through the woods,

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there's a parking light off to I
mean parking lot off to the to the

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side. So when I saw movement
in the woods, I thought a branch

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was falling from from the the winding
ship because it was crazy that night,

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you know, but I and I
got a chill, like a seeing something

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crazy. This giant branch has fallen. But then it wasn't a branch.

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It can came stepping. It was
like it was it was walking through the

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woods. Right. Everything you can
describe is what I saw. So I

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don't even care. Man, it
looked like it was swinging its arms in

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the in the that's I just asked. I saw it for a second,

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but it stopped and and then it
just rushed me, rushing me. It

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was, man, it straight trained
me because I was so scared that I

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was frozen. And that's a real
genuine thing that can happen because I was

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legit stunned. And when it came
out of the woods, it was as

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tall as the stop sign, That's
what was happening. And its feet looked

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like like our feet go down,
the leg goes down, then the foot

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goes like that, you know,
I'm sorry, legoes down. The foot

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goes like that, right, his
whole leg went down like from the knee,

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it just went down to a foot. There was no feet. It

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was just like like like like he
had bell bottoms on all the way to

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the floor, you know what I'm
saying, And it was just fur and

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he was just fur the how like
like a almost like Tobacca, you know

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what I'm saying, Just coming at
me, bro bro. That was anyway,

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when I finally got my whims,
I turned around and I bulleted,

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like I just I swear I probably
set some kind of record because I was

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in physical state, right it told
matter how fast I was going. I

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only remember my feet barely connecting with
the street, like like in time.

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As I was running, my legs
were out running my own ability. And

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I was the first thought was run
up and start banging on somebody's door.

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And then I was like, what
the hell are they gonna do? Watching

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me get ripped in half on this
sports I remember these thoughts because when something

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happens to you like that, you
don't forget it. I remember running and

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thinking of my what my options,
you know what I mean? And the

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first thought was run up to somebody's
bang on. I was like, hey,

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give me, I'll do thetally can
think up a maniac nobody. So

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then I run around the corner and
I didn't even look back. I just

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kept running to the fastest of my
ability. I ran off down down the

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other corner and uh into my mom's
house. And again I remember thinking,

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start screaming for mom, and I
was like, what what is my mom

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gonna do against bad? You know
what I'm saying. What I just saw

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come barrel and rushing me freight train
style right under the light, the street

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light. I'm literally frozen and stopped
looking at it. And it's rushing me,

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you know what I'm saying. So
I ran in the house and I

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dove under and this is when the
phone was on the wall, you knowing

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the cells and uh, I had
I leaned. I remember I was laying

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under the windows, dead silent,
you know, and now like I didn't

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know what to do. I was
my heart was beating so fast, you

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know, and I knocked the phone
up the wall, and I called my

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friend Nat and I was like,
oh, right now, and he came

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pulling up and so he had as
little an itemm. You know. I

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came running over with it, and
I was just like, I thought,

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it wouldn't make no difference against that, you know what I mean. So

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I just screamed at him to take
me away, and I let my mom

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keep sleeping because I thought even then, I thought everybody's got somebody sleeping in

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it in the house. I doubt
they're gonna attack my my All I need

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to do if it was after me, all I need to do is get

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out of here, you know what
I'm saying. And that was my thinking,

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you know. So, But man, you know, the next day,

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Amy and my brother went out there
and did it again and nothing,

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you know, we did it again
for probably. But here's here's what my

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brother told me. My brother's three
years older than me, very accomplished,

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uh person uh emt Veteran war veteran, you know all that. So my

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brother was telling me at the time, I never used the word big foot.

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Again, I didn't know bigfoot was. I never thought anybody It was

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like almost like the Blob, if
you talk about the blob or Godzilla,

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you know what I mean. I
didn't think anything about a big foot.

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So he was like, here's what
I think. And we could talk about

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big switch and cheographic and all that
where they're at for sure. But my

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my brother, my brother was like, he said, this is what I

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carried in my mind. One of
two things that happened, and the likely

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one is what my brother said.
My brother said that hill may have been

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some sort of Native American burial ground, you know what I mean, you

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know, centuries ago even who knows
right? And he said, by going

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up but he said, by going
up there and yelling those words, okay,

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in a rush of adrenaline like that, to where you're actually meaning it

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and you're streaming on the top of
that hill ultimate warrior, like you're some

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kind of ultimate warrior. I'm so, we don't know what it is under

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that hill. Feeling insulted perhaps,
or maybe I'm calling a challenge. Who

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knows right? And when it finally
chose to emerge that night, when I

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did it three times or whatever,
it saw me run and it maybe just

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laughed and said exactly you know what
I'm saying, and laughed and laughed.

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I don't know that, but that
was when my brother gave me that possibility.

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I was like, when I was
seventeen, I was like, well,

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that's probably what what happened. What
it was, you know what I'm

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saying, that's that's probably what happened. And it made the most sense,

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you know what I'm saying. So, and thank God for my brother and

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Nate by the way, for pulling
up with the with the with the shoddy

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but but but so so who became
a cop later in like in New Jersey.

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So anyway, there's other possibility,
right, the more logical but highly

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not likely, but more lines of
gold because it's not involving supernaturalness or demons

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from the burial ground. The other
thing that may have happened is that what

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if there was some mechanic that lived
right on the edge of that park and

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he worked nights in his garage with
his buddy, right, and they're in

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there and every night they hear some
lunatic, did sets or dog off or

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something screaming? I am right?
And so after two or two after a

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month or two months of that,
you know what I mean, who's to

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say this is the part just highly
unlikely? Though? Who's to say they

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didn't have a friend in Who say
they weren't friends with Gonzalez? Or I

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said a diet right? Some you
know Will Tamberlin as somebody, you know

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what I'm saying? Who somebody massive? Right? Who say Shack ain't their

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homie on skin in the roller ducks? You know? So? And it

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had a friend, you know,
I don't know who walks arounds tall as

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to stop sign. Okay, I
don't know exactly how tall to stop sign

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is in Detroit, but it's ways
taller at me. And the other thing

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was people have described this thing as
like barrel tested and massive, like a

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like a lineback or whatever. It's
definitely what I saw wasn't skinny by any

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means, but it was athletic that
it was coming at me in a massive

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stride and I didn't hear nothing.
It was hard to process because I was

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coming out of that frozen fear,
you know what I mean? You know,

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you know a a panic attack by
the way, This way it was

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explained to me, is when your
brain dumps a chemical. It's like if

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you turned around and scene a train
coming at you or a truck, you're

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either gonna have the reflexes to jump
out of the way or you're gonna be

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frozen for a second, like,
oh, you know, that's that chemical

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spreading in your body. Record speeds
from your brain dumping like panic and you

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stuck for a second, you know
what I mean. So pic a panic

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attack is like when you're sitting at
home and having dinner or whatever you're doing,

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it all of a sudden, that
chemical dumps for no reason. It's

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like some people just have that problem, including myself, But I understand panic

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and how extreme it can be,
you know what I mean. And seeing

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something like that, it's something you're
never gonna forget that whole experience. And

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yeah, man, and years and
years later, I look at it,

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man, and I'm like, Okay, what if it was a big foot,

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right, because that's exactly what it
looked like to me, you know

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what I mean? And I think, uh, first of all, if

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two things would have to be crazy. Number one, that craziest night m

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hmm. I mean it could have
happened on any night if it was just

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a curious saspotches on the edge of
the woods, you know, coming out

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looking for trash or something to eat, you know, I don't know what,

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and hurting me, yelling that's what
don't seem right? I would have

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come tires and I wouldn't it hate
or why wouldn't it leave and hide?

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Why would it bulldogs me like that? You might come too close to like

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maybe it's where it's uh, it's
family was, or like you're getting too

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close to its special like zone ow
sasquatch zone, who knows, I don't

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know, you know, it's it's
I think, like, what if it

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was a young sasquatcho who I don't
know what age, who knows anything?

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Right? But what if it was
a young sasquatch who's tired of following around

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all the time and wants to go
off on his own right, and so

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he's off in a place he shouldn't
be. He's looking for food, and

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he's been off now for like three
days, hiding out in a tree at

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night or you know, in a
day or whatever. You know, what

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if it's doing that right and it
just is where it shouldn't be, you

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know, because who knows even if
somebody shot it in their yard or something,

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the government's just gonna come take it. It's not like it's gonna be

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on the front page next morning.
That guy's disappearing pretty quick. That's right,

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that's what's going And that was a
raccoon you shot it? Put all

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that wasn't understand that was a raccoon. That's we're not talking about no more.

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We know what you We know your
wife works and all. Your son's

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just graduating college, right that this
still happened. That was a rack hone

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jay. Did you see its face
at all when it was chasing you?

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Yeah, it was like, No, I can't. I can't describe his

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eyes. I can't describe its facial
features because honestly, all I all I

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remember is there was a face.
It wasn't the same as his hair,

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in his in his arms and everything
coming at me. It was a bear,

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not a bear, but not It
wasn't the same as is everything else

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you know, like it, you
know, and it was, But the

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rest of my attention was all on
what he was doing, like the whole

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movements of his body. At first
time, Like when I was watching it

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through the woods, I just was
like trying to understand how I came to

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the Excuse me, I can't hear
the conclusion that it was a person I

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was seeing walking walking through the woods, because I didn't understand how he can

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be so big, you know what
I mean? Like I knew it was

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far away, but once I knew
it wasn't a massive branch that was falling,

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I didn't understand how person because and
then when it came out and it

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hit into the parking lot, that
was it. Man, It just I

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got a I got a chance.
And that's why I was froze, because

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it was just coming at me.
And I was just almost as every when

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I was seeing man trying to process
it and fear will give you a hernia.

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Wow, alright, that's attention is
an understatement, all right, because

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they didn't come down for two weeks. But the thing was looking back now

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of course, Uh you know,
I got the more probable explanation that it

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was some sort of you know,
joke being played on me somehow, some

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high budget you know, craziness to
scare one seventeen year old, you know

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what I mean? Because I don't
know what could explain what I saw.

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And uh, I was like,
I was like a clean napkin on a

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clean white silk handkerchief tied to an
antenna of a car before it leaves California

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drive cross country. You know,
Jay, did you did you go back

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to the area and look for tracks
or anything like that? Yeah, me

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and my well, me and my
brother did when he came home, you

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know what I mean, my brother
from in the in the in the war.

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But I was he was coming home
anyway when when at the time,

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and it wasn't it wasn't the way
I remember it. We went back several

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times, you know what I mean. And I think we even tried to

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go on Devil's Night in Halloween in
Detroit. There's a Devil's Night is the

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night before Halloween, right especially back
then, you know. But we tried

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to go back because my brother was
the only one that actually believed me.

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You know what I'm saying. My
brother was the only one that actually believed

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me. But you know, I
went. I went with my brother Shaggy,

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who's I called my brother. You
know, we went and uh back

408
00:34:35.880 --> 00:34:37.719
there in the day and all that, you know what I'm saying, but

409
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:42.000
I didn't go We didn't go back
there and try to resummon anything or whatever

410
00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:45.559
until my until later. You know
what I mean, You went back and

411
00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:49.440
you tried to do some more Ultimate
Warrior and tried to Yeah, when my

412
00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:52.639
brother came home. Yeah, yeah, when my brother came homever military.

413
00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:57.400
You know. Wow. Yeah,
we did this story, Jay, that's

414
00:34:57.440 --> 00:35:00.360
an incredible story. It's embarrassing.
Know, if I was watching this,

415
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:05.000
I'd be like, oh man,
that ain't even hardly a big foot,

416
00:35:05.079 --> 00:35:07.440
because I've seen heard some craziness,
you know, I mean people, some

417
00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:12.360
people's stories. You know what My
favorite big foot stories are. Tell me

418
00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:19.920
more. When when people say they
became friends with a sasquatch, Oh sure,

419
00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:23.559
you know what I mean, Like
in they they befriended one and and

420
00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:29.920
and what it was like. I
I like hearing that because if it's told

421
00:35:29.960 --> 00:35:32.639
well, you know what I mean, it could be really cool, you

422
00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:38.159
know, and more possible to believe. But if it's you know what I

423
00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:42.679
mean, because I want to believe. Do you do you believe? Brother?

424
00:35:42.760 --> 00:35:45.679
Do you believe? Absolutely? Dude? I have had some I had

425
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:47.880
some things happen to me in Iowa
when I was out with my friend Tate

426
00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:54.360
Horonymous and man, we were looking
for sasquatch out in Iowa and we had

427
00:35:54.440 --> 00:35:59.159
wood knocks, we had a tree
pushed over in front of us. And

428
00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:04.320
on my audio recorder three forty five
am that night, something on zip my

429
00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:07.519
tent and I didn't leave the ten
at all. Dude. That's wild stuff,

430
00:36:07.639 --> 00:36:10.920
right, and that you can look
up tap dot Horonymous on YouTube and

431
00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:15.400
you can watch he made a documentary
on it. And it's the sounds there.

432
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:19.280
Man, it's wild. So I
believe in it. Man, Yeah,

433
00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:22.000
well I do too. I mean, you know, like if if

434
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:24.440
I if I was on a if
they if like if they had me in

435
00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:29.559
a guillotine and they're like, do
you think there are sasquatches? Yes,

436
00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:30.639
you know, your life is in
the line, you know what I mean.

437
00:36:31.119 --> 00:36:34.679
We know the answer. But if
you're wrong, you know, if

438
00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:37.480
you're right, you can live or
something. This is it. You know.

439
00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:42.440
I would probably have to say I
had to say I seen you sign.

440
00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:45.679
You know, I say I know
what I saw it. If I

441
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:49.480
hallucinated. That was the only time
ever in my life, you know what

442
00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:52.239
I mean, and stuff like that
has ever happened. I have a history

443
00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:55.320
of sea your monsters or dragons and
shit like that's the only time I ever

444
00:36:55.400 --> 00:37:00.000
saw anything like that, you know
what I mean, Like it was outrageous

445
00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:06.960
man. You know. Also I
have said, yeah, man, what

446
00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:12.599
do you think of what do you
think of Todd? Standing? So okay,

447
00:37:12.960 --> 00:37:16.360
all right, uh, I don't
think anyone watched this episode anyways,

448
00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:22.719
jay No. So Todd is an
interesting figure, right, And I will

449
00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:27.199
say hats off to you because I
saw your interview with him on your live

450
00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:30.840
stream a year or so ago.
It's very well done. I was,

451
00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:34.039
you know, I was very surprised. You guys are excellent interviewers, and

452
00:37:34.360 --> 00:37:38.880
that was a great interview with Todd. You know, the video he is

453
00:37:39.000 --> 00:37:46.960
captured is so much different than other
representations of sasquatch. It is a thing

454
00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:52.840
though that I would I would definitely
want to go up there to the area

455
00:37:52.360 --> 00:38:00.440
in British Columbia myself before passing judgment, because I don't know if that's that's

456
00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:05.159
fair to do that without actually going
up there. But if I was to

457
00:38:05.239 --> 00:38:07.519
say look at it, I'd be
like, oh, I don't know if

458
00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:12.400
that's a normal looking sasquatch, but
what is normal about a sasquatch? You

459
00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:15.440
know, right. And the worst
thing about bigfoots, and I say it

460
00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:22.320
all the time, is bigfoots look
like a guy in a suit. Sure.

461
00:38:22.119 --> 00:38:25.079
I mean like every single time you
see a footage of it, it's

462
00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:30.280
like I said, kind of suit. If bigfoots are real, that's a

463
00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:32.320
guy. What a guy in a
suit looks like? You know what I'm

464
00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:37.280
saying, Like only giant. Like
that's why everybody's gonna say that, because

465
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:39.840
it's a walking thing that ain't a
guy in a suit though it's a thing

466
00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:46.239
I'm saying like it's it's not like
it's not like you're saying it's a dragon

467
00:38:46.920 --> 00:38:52.800
or or like a mothman or something. It's like a possible thing from like

468
00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:59.639
evolution, you know what I mean, and impossible you know link between a

469
00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:04.800
a gorilla and man, you know
what I mean, somewhere in the center

470
00:39:04.880 --> 00:39:12.800
of that or something. You know
that that whose existence is reliable on being

471
00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:16.480
elusive, you know what I'm saying, that that could be with the specie

472
00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:22.719
believes. It's like it's almost like
the the their existence is smart enough to

473
00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:27.400
know to stay away from man.
You know what I mean. They're smart?

474
00:39:27.559 --> 00:39:30.519
Yeah, yeah, man, because
if they wouldn't They probably knew,

475
00:39:30.599 --> 00:39:37.840
they probably saw. They're probably friends
with the natives, right and actually helping

476
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:40.440
in the crops and things, as
the legend said, has it. But

477
00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:46.880
when the Europeans came, then didn't
our stands? So they're shooting and then

478
00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:51.920
they became less and less and fearful, you know what I mean for their

479
00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:55.559
existence, and now their entire existence
relies on being elusive, you know what

480
00:39:55.599 --> 00:40:01.440
I mean? In hidden and I
and absolutely there's areas like southeast Oklahoma that

481
00:40:01.639 --> 00:40:07.280
is so remote but it gets so
much rain and there's these Sasquatch there and

482
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:10.039
like no one can touch them because
they're so far out in the mountains except

483
00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:15.960
for like the NYWAC, which there's
these hardcore guys that go out and study

484
00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:21.000
big Foot in the mountains of Oklahoma. Crazy stuff. Chay, Hey,

485
00:40:21.159 --> 00:40:24.639
brother, I know listen, I
was about to go out Todd. I

486
00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:29.440
do. I was about to go
out with Todd. So I was going

487
00:40:29.519 --> 00:40:31.840
to ask you. I know you
you wanted to go out with him.

488
00:40:31.960 --> 00:40:37.559
Heard that interview, But did that
happen? Well, first time we are

489
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:42.000
booked. You know what I'm saying. We are literally going I believe in

490
00:40:42.119 --> 00:40:47.519
two weeks from but my girlfriend passed
away. You know, It's all good,

491
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:52.119
Obama and listen, that was no. I appreciate that, you know,

492
00:40:52.639 --> 00:40:57.159
we but that I had to be
like, I ain't coming out there

493
00:40:57.239 --> 00:41:00.239
right now, you know what I'm
saying, not the right So yeah,

494
00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:04.960
so we had to cancel on him. So we had another excursion plan,

495
00:41:05.159 --> 00:41:09.519
you know what I'm saying, just
recently, not too recently, maybe two

496
00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:15.400
months ago. That's pretty recent,
right, that is very recent. Yeah,

497
00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:20.960
so we had another excursion plan right
now. Seeing this girl, and

498
00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:24.239
I was like, come on a
big but uh, you know, and

499
00:41:27.159 --> 00:41:30.239
it's sounds that donte place to bring
some chicks, you know what I mean?

500
00:41:30.440 --> 00:41:34.360
Out on the bottle fire looking tide, standing looking for me a big

501
00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:40.360
foot, because bro, if he's
got some eight foot home, he running

502
00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:43.679
around in the big foot suit in
the middle of the night, you know,

503
00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:46.880
and he because he's here's the way
he does it. You understand,

504
00:41:46.920 --> 00:41:51.280
he's a genius either way. You
gotta know this bro, all right,

505
00:41:51.800 --> 00:41:54.000
all right, First of all,
if he if he's a big foot,

506
00:41:54.760 --> 00:42:00.239
if he if he's faking it,
he's actually got built both made that documentary,

507
00:42:00.320 --> 00:42:06.320
built those masks and have whatever he's
done and have everybody sport the secretcy

508
00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:09.760
or whatever whatever his secrets are,
you know I'm saying. And now he

509
00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:14.840
charges people and brings them out to
that location. Right, Some people have

510
00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:19.480
sightings, he said, some his
website says, some people hear things,

511
00:42:19.559 --> 00:42:21.440
you know what I'm saying. Some
people have nothing, you know what I

512
00:42:21.519 --> 00:42:24.400
mean. But he's constantly out there
doing that, bringing people out there,

513
00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:29.800
you know what I mean. Is
the way I understand it. And I'm

514
00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:35.800
like, that's genius if he thought
of that all up. Like, I'm

515
00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:38.440
gonna make a documentary that I film
these real sasquatches right in the face,

516
00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:42.960
you know, and then I'm gonna
have it come out on YouTube and it's

517
00:42:43.000 --> 00:42:45.239
gonna blow up and everybody's gonna think
I know a spot, you know what

518
00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:47.559
I mean. And I'm much charge
of all and bring them all in and

519
00:42:47.639 --> 00:42:51.000
come to see. And every once
in a while, I'm at big Tim

520
00:42:51.559 --> 00:42:53.880
seven foot nine, uncle, you
know what i mean, run around in

521
00:42:53.960 --> 00:42:58.800
the task in a tobacco suit,
in through the woods and he tells everybody,

522
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:01.880
you know, here's the thing that
rupp in Canada, Right, he

523
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:07.119
was up in Canada. Yeah,
radium. Yeah, So I can't nobody

524
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:09.400
can bring me and my boys can't
bring no weapons up there, you know

525
00:43:09.440 --> 00:43:13.400
what I mean. No, I
got all the weapon. Great, you

526
00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:15.559
know what I mean. He's like, I got the piece right here on

527
00:43:15.639 --> 00:43:19.360
the hill, you know. And
then we hear bush bushes about settle down,

528
00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:22.920
everybody, stay where you're seated.
I got this, you know what

529
00:43:22.960 --> 00:43:29.920
I mean. And then he comes
running back. That's an interesting way to

530
00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:34.440
look at it. Or or we're
all just sitting there and somebody's talking to

531
00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:37.119
us. So he's like lock and
he points over and you just see this

532
00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:40.679
guy in the moon like running across
the field of the saspa suit. You

533
00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:47.159
know what I mean. You know
what I mean, Like he's actually pulling

534
00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:52.400
that off. That's dope to me
in a sense, like as from a

535
00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:58.000
hustler standpoint, he's getting paid now, flip side of all that, right,

536
00:43:58.079 --> 00:44:00.320
that's just the street. That's the
street in me. What I mean,

537
00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:04.440
like it is, I respect the
hustle like that idea. So I'm

538
00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:07.599
talking about this just a couple months
ago. You know, I'm here wild

539
00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:12.320
and now brother, I'm so I'm
thinking I'm I'm coming to the to the

540
00:44:12.440 --> 00:44:15.400
camp and Sasquatches might show up and
this is gonna be fun. He my

541
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:20.079
brother's like, he wants to talk
on the phone, you know, I

542
00:44:20.119 --> 00:44:22.280
mean, he wants to Yeah,
he wants to talk on phone. And

543
00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:24.199
I was like why man, you
know, I like him? And then

544
00:44:24.239 --> 00:44:27.679
we're question to him. I'm like, my brother set it up. He's

545
00:44:27.679 --> 00:44:30.960
like, no, he wants to
talk on phone. So I get on

546
00:44:30.039 --> 00:44:36.000
the phone right and the first thing
we start talking about is he's talking about

547
00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:40.280
how nature man has lost touch with
nature, you know what I mean.

548
00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:50.000
And when he when he proves that
sasquatches exist, it's gonna become such a

549
00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:54.639
hot commodity, a topic or whatever
that it's gonna reignite man's passion for nature,

550
00:44:55.039 --> 00:44:58.760
you know what I mean. And
I was like, damn, that's

551
00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:01.440
ship. That's a what do you
think? But that's a lot, that's

552
00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:07.239
a big mission, you know,
So that's dope. Then he's like,

553
00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:12.159
first thing is being safe. Be
ready for a lot of walking, you

554
00:45:12.239 --> 00:45:15.079
know what I mean. And I'm
like, hold upsot, I'm like,

555
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:17.119
I don't know about all that walking. What about a floor wheeler or something?

556
00:45:17.159 --> 00:45:22.599
What about he said, He's like, no, we're gonna have to

557
00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:27.519
do some walking, and I'm like, man, I was walking, you

558
00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:30.559
know, and he's like just being
shape and I'm like all right. And

559
00:45:30.679 --> 00:45:37.920
then he was like and no substances, no nothing, you know, and

560
00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:44.719
I think he's talking about we can't
even we have a snow snores. Is

561
00:45:44.760 --> 00:45:46.840
that all right? You know?
He's like, because if you he said,

562
00:45:46.880 --> 00:45:52.199
if you're alleviated in anyway in tops
cool, I gots my boy.

563
00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:54.440
He gave me a plaster of a
big foot print, and I love it.

564
00:45:54.559 --> 00:45:59.360
You know, I'm just having a
bedroom wall, all right. But

565
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:02.639
you know, he said, if
you're need be in any way, the

566
00:46:02.719 --> 00:46:07.239
sasquash will sense that and it won't
come, you know what I mean.

567
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:10.480
And I'm like, well they didn't
come have a beer with us. Okay,

568
00:46:12.079 --> 00:46:15.639
I'm playing, but I just don't
like the idea going out there with

569
00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:22.360
my girlfriend and her friends and telling
everybody we can't no beer at night around

570
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:25.760
the bottom Firesqua just don't like beer. It just don't make just didn't sound

571
00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:30.480
right. Like. The trip started
to become like, I don't know,

572
00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:34.320
I'm lazy, man. I didn't
I would like to go on location,

573
00:46:34.519 --> 00:46:42.239
but here's the main reason. Okay, he was like, where the documentary

574
00:46:42.519 --> 00:46:49.599
was shot is snowed out this time
of year. So but I know a

575
00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:54.519
different location we can go to in
Washington or in Oregon or something like that.

576
00:46:55.559 --> 00:47:01.280
And I was like, here's my
thinking. Here's my thinking, bro,

577
00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:09.159
this is where Todd's slipping. And
I'm talking as Todd's as Todd's friend

578
00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:14.800
and as a fellow hustler. Okay, I got clown pin on my face.

579
00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:22.239
Don't forget. I can see that
Todd is slipping because if he happened

580
00:47:22.280 --> 00:47:30.119
to catch Bigfoot on film let alone, three, right, or however many

581
00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:34.960
he did in that documentary, if
he happened to go out there that weekend

582
00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:40.719
and catch those Sasquatch, a family, a Sasquatch on film, that would

583
00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:46.519
have been a miracle, right,
absolutely, come on, now a miracle

584
00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:55.079
let alone. This is where he's
slipping is Now he knows two locations where

585
00:47:55.119 --> 00:47:59.000
the big foots are. I'm like, oh, you just know two now?

586
00:47:59.360 --> 00:48:01.639
You know what I mean. You
caught big Foot on film, You

587
00:48:01.719 --> 00:48:07.800
know what I mean? Like multiple
times on that trip out there. You

588
00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:12.199
know the female want looking one.
You got him all in the face,

589
00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:15.559
running up a mountain, hiding up
a tree. All right, you got

590
00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:20.719
mad lucky you're the man. You
already got the belt. You know what

591
00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:25.639
I'm saying, You're the camp right, Yep, totally yeah. Sin then

592
00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:31.480
when I go to his YouTube clips, he's like, I don't know if

593
00:48:31.559 --> 00:48:38.199
he hears up sometimes like he shit
looks at other views of sasquatches and he

594
00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:44.360
says, he says, uh,
yes, that's very similar to the way

595
00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:47.679
sasquatches I've seen sasquatch wants to walk
like that. And then you're like,

596
00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:52.719
how many sasquatches has he seen?
You know what I mean? And how

597
00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:57.239
does he know where all the sasquatches
are? And I love Todd standing And

598
00:48:57.360 --> 00:49:00.400
I said at the beginning, I
don't know why it's always royal lumbo out

599
00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:04.440
here in the big foot world.
I get it, it's a royal rumble

600
00:49:04.519 --> 00:49:07.320
for sure. Yeah, but at
the same time, it's hard for everybody

601
00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:14.559
not to be like that because we
all want to believe, okay, and

602
00:49:14.679 --> 00:49:19.800
when somebody starts talking about something that's
hard for us to believe, you know

603
00:49:19.840 --> 00:49:23.119
what I mean. As a person, it gets to be frustrating. You're

604
00:49:23.159 --> 00:49:28.000
like, damn, you had me
for years, but now when I look

605
00:49:28.039 --> 00:49:30.679
at you, you act like you
know all the hot spots all over western

606
00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:36.920
US and Canada, and you say
it's because of your sasquad sensus, And

607
00:49:37.119 --> 00:49:39.599
that's more hard for me to believe
in. It's like you can believe in

608
00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:43.599
the Patterson Gilman like they happen to
catch it. They caught them, They

609
00:49:43.679 --> 00:49:45.599
caught it the sixties seven they had
him, you know, Patty, they

610
00:49:45.639 --> 00:49:50.840
had run believe in that Patterson Gilman
film. Of course I do. Oh

611
00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:53.760
yeah, I do, Absolutely,
I do. I do. That's probably

612
00:49:53.800 --> 00:49:57.599
one of the main reasons I do
believe, you know what I mean.

613
00:49:58.599 --> 00:50:01.000
But but I've seen other foot did
I choose to believe? You know,

614
00:50:01.039 --> 00:50:06.119
I've seen the one you don't eat
in man. But but listen, let

615
00:50:06.199 --> 00:50:08.639
me be clear on time. Yeah, yeah, he probably wouldn't like my

616
00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:13.440
humor. And I don't know if
we'd have to talk about sasquatches the whole

617
00:50:13.519 --> 00:50:15.440
time, you know what I mean, Like like dog, how about only

618
00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:20.639
to get off the sasquatch since fourteen
hour combo, you know what I mean?

619
00:50:20.719 --> 00:50:22.119
Like it? How about them?
You know? I don't know,

620
00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:24.960
but I just I love time.
I just like keep it like that.

621
00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:28.760
I was like, maybe I better
not go camping with him for the next

622
00:50:28.840 --> 00:50:32.320
four days often. Maybe it'll work
sometime in the future. Who knows.

623
00:50:34.360 --> 00:50:36.480
Yeah, I know you guys is
a tight en it. Well. I

624
00:50:36.599 --> 00:50:38.719
love tis Danny. He came out
my show, on our show. He's

625
00:50:38.800 --> 00:50:45.039
my boy. And what time we're
saying? You fold on the sasquatches?

626
00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:50.400
Come on, dog, the one
you have us alve stop already. So

627
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:53.159
I'm a dick. I am a
dick, now you get It's it's cool

628
00:50:53.239 --> 00:51:00.400
to talk honestly. But the thing
about you know, that area is crazy

629
00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:05.800
squatchy. There's a huge chance you
could see something up there. But the

630
00:51:05.880 --> 00:51:09.960
cool thing about big foot society is
I invite people of all backgrounds to come

631
00:51:10.039 --> 00:51:14.719
on tell their story. And uh, you know, no hate, so

632
00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:19.280
no, no doctor, please please
everybody. Yeah, come on, they'll

633
00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:27.800
no. I'm not blaming. I'm
not just and todd love. I got

634
00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:30.519
love time. Oh yeah, come
on, man, let's all we love

635
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:35.039
time for real? John listen,
Oh tell me, tell me more.

636
00:51:35.599 --> 00:51:38.360
One more thing? All right,
I got a question for you, brother.

637
00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:42.039
Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry if
I'm geeking out, man, it's

638
00:51:42.079 --> 00:51:45.960
my I'm good to talk to big
foot people. I'm loving this, dude,

639
00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:51.159
and I'm loving this brother. Listen. Have you ever heard the story

640
00:51:51.880 --> 00:51:59.239
from the two girls that grew up
on a farm with their grandfathers raising basic

641
00:51:59.400 --> 00:52:04.000
basically a baby sasquatch. No,
I've never heard the story. Oh he's

642
00:52:04.079 --> 00:52:07.199
serious. Where does this take place? Oh? Man, hope somebody listening

643
00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:12.360
and can tell us, because I
can't remember the name. But listen,

644
00:52:13.199 --> 00:52:16.239
it's a story to the writer is
writing the story. But the story is

645
00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:22.519
the two girls were their grandfather had
burned a big, huge pile of logs.

646
00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:25.719
I believe at the beginning of the
story, the little girls were probably

647
00:52:27.800 --> 00:52:30.599
seven and eight or something like that, and their grandfather burned a big thing

648
00:52:30.679 --> 00:52:35.039
in logs, and he heard some
screaming and he went over there and it

649
00:52:35.159 --> 00:52:37.239
was a baby sasquatch. And he
pulled it out of the logs and the

650
00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:43.679
smoke, and he put it in
his barn. In that night, something

651
00:52:43.800 --> 00:52:45.920
came and broke it out of there
from the outside, like they believed,

652
00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:50.320
like it was probably its parents or
something came broke the sasquatch out right.

653
00:52:51.159 --> 00:52:54.280
Two nights later, it was back
and he put it back in the barn,

654
00:52:54.760 --> 00:52:59.760
and it just and he would feed
it and it would go back into

655
00:53:00.039 --> 00:53:02.119
and after a while they would ring
a big bell and it would come out

656
00:53:02.199 --> 00:53:06.519
and eat, and the girls would
hide up in the trees because it wouldn't

657
00:53:06.559 --> 00:53:08.119
come out if the girls were around, you know what I mean. And

658
00:53:08.239 --> 00:53:12.119
the girls said it taught the grandpa
how to pull fish out of the river,

659
00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:15.800
and he raised it from when it
was a baby by feeding it all

660
00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:19.880
the time. And but they never
had like too much physical connection, you

661
00:53:19.960 --> 00:53:22.199
know what I mean. It was
just like he would it would trust them

662
00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:28.639
and they would sit there together and
stuff. And it's a fascinating out of

663
00:53:28.920 --> 00:53:34.840
all the big foot stuff I've seen
and read, that story is fascinating,

664
00:53:34.920 --> 00:53:37.840
man, because these two girls,
according to the writer of the book,

665
00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:42.360
and it's an audio book, and
I'm hoping somebody will hear what I'm saying

666
00:53:42.400 --> 00:53:45.199
and know what I'm talking about.
It's a it's a it's a They grew

667
00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:49.760
up on a farm, I believe
in North Carolina. And it is the

668
00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:55.480
coolest, most highly detailed story.
And the woman writing the book is interviewing

669
00:53:55.559 --> 00:54:00.599
these two sisters trying to catch them
in lies, like she's telling you in

670
00:54:00.679 --> 00:54:04.800
the book, and it's an audiobook
too, but she's telling you how she's

671
00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:08.239
trying to catch them up but they're
there is no catching them up because they

672
00:54:08.360 --> 00:54:13.639
both were like raised in the same
thing. And they talk about how one

673
00:54:13.719 --> 00:54:17.840
part in the book they talk about
how the girls they're now in like high

674
00:54:17.880 --> 00:54:22.920
school and they're dating these college kids. Right, So something happened in the

675
00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:27.760
main house. There was some sort
of issue. So they were having they

676
00:54:27.800 --> 00:54:30.679
were staying out in a trailer next
to the farm, in a trailer,

677
00:54:31.000 --> 00:54:36.320
and they were having holiday dinner,
and the old man forgot to feed the

678
00:54:36.360 --> 00:54:42.559
Sasswatch. So they're having holiday dinner
and there was a rous circle in the

679
00:54:42.639 --> 00:54:45.639
wall where a fan would go into
this trailer, but it was no fan

680
00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:50.840
in there. And the college kid
is sitting there in the kidchen. They're

681
00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:53.920
all talking, laughing, having holiday
dinner, and the sasswatch reaches in,

682
00:54:54.239 --> 00:54:58.920
you know what I mean. It
grabs the kids shoulder, and the kids

683
00:54:58.960 --> 00:55:05.039
screaming, and she's giant hand catches
midsize. He's screaming, and the old

684
00:55:05.079 --> 00:55:07.559
man's like, oh damn. It
fade up and she's like feeding while he's

685
00:55:07.599 --> 00:55:12.480
like giving dog food. So she
just filled up a big bowl of dog

686
00:55:12.599 --> 00:55:16.000
food and went out there and set
it down, and she said it looked

687
00:55:16.039 --> 00:55:22.679
at her and set and did what
she believed was saying thank you in the

688
00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:23.920
grab of the food and blessed with
it. You know what I mean,

689
00:55:25.239 --> 00:55:29.800
said thank you or something to that
gesture. You know, but when you

690
00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:34.639
hear the way she describes it,
you know, anyway in the book,

691
00:55:34.719 --> 00:55:37.559
so she's like, this is where
I caught him. So she's like,

692
00:55:37.639 --> 00:55:39.960
what was the kid's name? Because
when the lady the girl who's now like

693
00:55:40.320 --> 00:55:44.360
my age, these girls are like
not my age now like fifty right,

694
00:55:45.119 --> 00:55:47.199
She's like, what was your boyfriend's
name? He's like Jimmie slam saying or

695
00:55:47.199 --> 00:55:50.679
whatever. You know, she knew
the name or whatever. She's like,

696
00:55:50.840 --> 00:55:57.199
look the dude up. She found
the dude, and the dude came to

697
00:55:57.360 --> 00:56:00.440
a grab me. It's a bigfoot. They live with bagfoot out there.

698
00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:06.880
That's why I love this book.
It's the most convincing because she did her

699
00:56:07.159 --> 00:56:12.119
research of these girls trying to prove
them wrong, and it's the most detailed,

700
00:56:12.599 --> 00:56:19.599
convincing story of what I think a
sas watch would be. You know

701
00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:23.199
what I mean, One more thing, one thing, another detail I remember

702
00:56:23.280 --> 00:56:28.880
thinking who would make that up?
She also goes into other details where it's

703
00:56:29.159 --> 00:56:34.480
just like I think like sounds exactly
what I believe would happen, you know

704
00:56:34.519 --> 00:56:37.639
what I'm saying, Like it's and
how it sounds believable, and as the

705
00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:43.239
woman writing the book does the research, it has a fascinating ending at the

706
00:56:43.360 --> 00:56:46.719
end. Man, I just advise
it to everybody. Man if if someone

707
00:56:46.800 --> 00:56:51.480
watching knows what book this is,
put it in the comments so we can

708
00:56:51.559 --> 00:56:53.440
check it out. And Jay,
I got one more question for you,

709
00:56:54.519 --> 00:57:00.239
ask my man. This is from
so my friend Asher's from on Wednesday Days

710
00:57:00.280 --> 00:57:04.199
we Talk Weird Pat podcast. She
was like, you gotta ask Jay,

711
00:57:06.159 --> 00:57:09.639
is the whoop whoop? Is that
like the Bigfoot whoop? You know,

712
00:57:09.760 --> 00:57:13.880
the whoop whoop that ICP does.
Is that the same thing as the big

713
00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:15.599
Foot whoop? That's so weird because
I never really put them together, you

714
00:57:15.639 --> 00:57:21.679
know, I mean I did before
recently, but because we put it on

715
00:57:21.800 --> 00:57:24.599
a we did like a big foot
jersey, you know, all right,

716
00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:28.360
and and we were trying to think
of what to put on the back,

717
00:57:28.400 --> 00:57:30.400
and we were like, well,
you know, big person are like whoo

718
00:57:30.760 --> 00:57:35.679
whoop, and we're like, but
that's sort of what we do, whoop

719
00:57:35.679 --> 00:57:38.920
whoop. You know, maybe there's
some sort of connection there. Man,

720
00:57:39.559 --> 00:57:45.360
maybe who knows who never but I
never did make that connection. But maybe

721
00:57:45.599 --> 00:57:50.320
it's all writing within the same dimension, you know what I mean? Somehow

722
00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:53.400
that makes any sense? Jay,
It's been so fun talking to you.

723
00:57:53.440 --> 00:57:57.920
I want to be respectful of your
time. If you ever have any other

724
00:57:58.039 --> 00:58:00.800
friends that have seen Bigfoot, send
in my way to Bigfoot Society. I'd

725
00:58:00.840 --> 00:58:06.159
love to talk to him. Uh
Juggalos if you're watching this, email me

726
00:58:06.239 --> 00:58:09.679
Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.
If you've seen Bigfoot, Jay, is

727
00:58:09.760 --> 00:58:13.679
there anything you want to share?
Like? How can people keep up to

728
00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:17.800
date with what you're doing? All
that good stuff? My Instagram at violent

729
00:58:17.920 --> 00:58:23.320
Jay dot I CP and that's probably
the best way, you know, or

730
00:58:23.880 --> 00:58:29.679
or the real ice what is it? The real ICP, the real ICP

731
00:58:30.719 --> 00:58:32.840
on Instagram or Facebook and all that, you know what I mean. But

732
00:58:34.119 --> 00:58:37.000
we're always doing this, man,
We I have fun. Man. Hey,

733
00:58:37.320 --> 00:58:44.079
one quick question. You've ever seen
you ever seen that movie Bigfoot Country?

734
00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:50.000
I haven't actually is it good?
Man? It's a it's dope.

735
00:58:50.119 --> 00:58:55.320
It's a low budget movie, but
it's just funny and it's dope. Man.

736
00:58:55.719 --> 00:58:59.960
I'm gonna check it out. I'm
gonna chat. You've got to up

737
00:59:00.039 --> 00:59:01.559
boy WICHI Mac. He was like
that movie sucked. I was like,

738
00:59:01.679 --> 00:59:06.960
you're crazy. That movie was freshed. You gotta watch In Search of Bigfoot

739
00:59:07.039 --> 00:59:10.280
from the seventies. It's so good. You will love it. You've seen

740
00:59:10.320 --> 00:59:15.400
it with Robert W. Morgan I
met him. That's all creepy, weird

741
00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:17.519
and black and white and crazy,
right, so good. I love it.

742
00:59:17.960 --> 00:59:22.480
I love it. I love It's
a cool he is he is.

743
00:59:22.639 --> 00:59:24.239
But thank you, brother. We
can do this again, man, I

744
00:59:24.360 --> 00:59:29.719
love I love If you haven't need
a panel or anything, just looking at

745
00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:32.320
anything, prop can love it.
Man. We'll be in touch, Jay,

746
00:59:32.400 --> 00:59:36.559
Thanks so much for reaching out.
Brother. Thank you, my man,

747
00:59:37.000 --> 00:59:40.880
peace huge. Thank you to Violent
Jay from ICP first stopping by the

748
00:59:40.960 --> 00:59:46.679
podcast and talking all about Bigfoot with
me, sharing his Bigfoot encounter story from

749
00:59:46.719 --> 00:59:52.119
the nineties. Such a good conversation. Thank you to all the new listeners

750
00:59:52.199 --> 00:59:55.920
and or juggalos for stopping buy it
and hanging out. Make sure you're subscribed

751
00:59:55.960 --> 01:00:00.559
to whatever platform you're listening on so
that you can continue to hang out with

752
01:00:00.639 --> 01:00:05.039
Bigfoot Society down the road. We
have episodes that come out every Monday,

753
01:00:05.119 --> 01:00:08.000
Wednesday, and Friday. Plenty of
new Bigfoot Encounters. You're gonna love it.

754
01:00:08.519 --> 01:00:13.679
And if you really want to go
crazy and hear the uncensored version of

755
01:00:13.800 --> 01:00:16.719
this episode, you can head on
over to Patreon dot com forward slash the

756
01:00:16.800 --> 01:00:24.199
Bigfoot Society join check out the audio
version and the video version are over there.

757
01:00:25.519 --> 01:00:30.000
It gets pretty wild, but I
have a feeling you're gonna like it.

758
01:00:31.159 --> 01:00:37.440
And as always, thanks for watching, thanks for listening. We'll see

759
01:00:37.480 --> 01:00:40.800
you next week. Here at Bigfoot
Society, our goal is to provide a

760
01:00:42.000 --> 01:00:46.519
platform for those that have encountered Bigfoot
to share their encounter in a safe and

761
01:00:46.679 --> 01:00:52.039
respected environment. But we need to
hear your story. If you've experienced something

762
01:00:52.159 --> 01:00:59.400
that you just can't explain, please
send me an email at Bigfoot Society at

763
01:00:59.440 --> 01:01:02.599
gmail dot com. Then we can
start the conversation. And I know a

764
01:01:02.719 --> 01:01:08.159
lot of you have not shared your
encounter at all. It's been twenty years

765
01:01:09.400 --> 01:01:14.199
and it's time that you get this
off your chest and then you can get

766
01:01:14.280 --> 01:01:17.360
some well deserved for rest, because
I know you haven't been sleeping. I

767
01:01:17.559 --> 01:01:22.280
understand what you're going through, and
I appreciate every one of you listening