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Nov. 25, 2024

It Looked Down Into The Car At Me and I Was Trapped! | Yale, British Columbia

It Looked Down Into The Car At Me and I Was Trapped! | Yale, British Columbia
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It Looked Down Into The Car At Me and I Was Trapped! | Yale, British Columbia

Join us for an incredible interview as a woman, now 69, recounts her unforgettable encounter with a Sasquatch in the early 1960s in the Fraser Valley, just outside of Yale. As a child, she witnessed a female Sasquatch up close, describing detailed...

Join us for an incredible interview as a woman, now 69, recounts her unforgettable encounter with a Sasquatch in the early 1960s in the Fraser Valley, just outside of Yale. As a child, she witnessed a female Sasquatch up close, describing detailed features and movements. Her story delves into cultural beliefs and other sightings in the region, from fishing customs with Native friends to historical abductions and community legends. This fascinating recounting offers a unique glimpse into Sasquatch lore and personal experience in British Columbia and beyond.

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0:00 Welcome to Big for Society. If you have Bigfoot activity to report from the same areas discussed in this episode, please reach out to me directly after this episode. And if you'd like to be on the podcast to discuss a personal Bigfoot encounter, please reach out to me directly at Big for Society at gmail dot com. Do you wish there was more Big for Society to listen to you every week? Well there is now. If you become a supporting member over at Patreon, you get a special members only episode every single week on Wednesdays, and sometimes even more episodes. Head on over to patreon dot com. Ford Slash the Big for Society and now let's get on with the show. Hey, how's it going going pretty good?

0:42 Feel free to share what you saw up there in the Fraser Valley. Okay, it was quite a few years ago. I'm sixty nine years old now. My grandfather was a section foreman for the Canadian Pacific Railroad and I was living with my grandparents at the time. Working for the railroad. One of our trestles was washed away in a flood, and so he drove down a side road just outside the Yale about five miles to go to where this trestle had washed out, and they left me sitting in the car because of the danger of walking down through this washout to get down to the train wreck. And while I was sitting in the car, I was five or six years old, a sasquatch had come down the trail that we had just driven over and walked right past the car that I was sitting on in and stood up at the front fender of the car and looked in at me. I could see that it was a female.

2:00 She just looked at me and then continued on down the bank. Wasn't anything too terribly dramatic or whatever, but they were seen quite often there in the Frail Fraser area. We had native members that I grew up with that whenever they went fishing, they would always leave a fish behind, especially if they were camping nearby, so that they'd leave one for sasquatch so it wouldn't come in and tear up the camp. Other times they'd go to where the natives would have fish hanging and drying and they would take them, or if they had fish barrels in their back sheds, sasquatch would tear open the fish barrels.

2:51 Wow so this is let me do some quick math. This is early sixties, is that right? Yeah? I was born in fifty six. Okay, so this is sixty one, sixty two. Sixty one sixty two. Okay. Wow. So you had the one that was looking in the car at you from the front. Did you say right bumper or just front bumper. Right front looking at me through the windshield. You said that you thought it was a female. Is that because you mentioned that you noticed certain features of it? Or right? She had the large bust?

3:32 Okay, gotcha. She may have been a nursing female. Makes sense. Did you notice anything interesting about how the creature was moving when you saw it? Walk well as a little kid? You know it? She she had a lot of muscle for a female. And I don't know, it wasn't gorilla like, it wasn't human. It was a little bit of a lean, but she definitely had determination in her step. Every step she took had a purpose to it. When I try to picture that, I'm thinking of something like nothing's going to stop, It's going to barrel through whatever walls in front of Is that kind of what we're saying.

4:18 Or a very strong walk, a strong pace and branches didn't get in her way, trees didn't get in her way. She walked through the wild blackberries and the thorns and everything like it was an absolute nothing. Gotcha? Now? Do you remember anything about the arms of the creature? Long and strong? The girls looked to be just as tough as I would imagine the males to be. There was nothing feminine about her other than she had the breast. And I think when she looked in at me. I look back after all all these years, and it seems to me that she recognized I was a child too.

5:09 Ah, Okay, that makes sense. How far down the body did the hands go? How far did they hang down? Just above the knee? Okay? Interesting? How tall would you approximate what you saw. Was being little? I'm having to reflect back on sixty years with memory. My own son is six foot nine tall, and when I see him standing in front of the car, I've often thought of her. She was up there, Yeah, yeah, she was up there, growing up with the natives as I did. And I have all my life, and I may tea myself. She wasn't considered uncommon or unexpected, not necessarily somebody'd like to keep company with. But there's stories of when sasquatch used to live with the people.

6:07 That is extremely interesting. You had that childhood that you're growing up with. A question that I have and other people have, is do you remember what the color of the sasquatch was? Reddish brown? Reddish brown? Did you were you able to see what the length of the hair. Was? For it, I would match it with the length of the back of a grizzly. Okay. Interesting? Was always on two feet or did it ever go down to on all fours? No, she was on two feet the whole time. Okay. Now, I told my grandfather that I had seen her. He said he could smell her when he came back to the car, But there was two much furn and foliage and grasses where we were that he wasn't able to get any footprints, but we did. He did look through the branches for hair and stuff like that, and he wasn't able to find any. What he thought he had found some It seemed a little bit like deer hair, but when he touched it, it evaporated. It dissolved.

7:31 Oh, that's really interesting. Its dissolved. Wow. Okay, was the entire thing covered with hair or there are different parts of it that were not hair covered. No hair around the eyes and the palm of the hands, but and the tips of the ears. Okay, so that's interesting. So you were you actually did see ears on the creature. Yes, but she's I don't know. I wasn't afraid of her. She was big and she was a surprise, but she seemed gentle. Yeah is what you saw, would you say?

8:13 But then again, too, I hadn't done anything to piss her up. That's true, I said, Yeah, I didn't do anything to piss her up. I was just a little kid sitting there watching her, and she was surprised to see me. There's stories in the Fraser Canyon, like the one of Jocko that was in Yale when the railroad workers found the young Sasquatch on the side of the railroad tracks, and then the native woman from the Fraser Canyon area that had been taken by Sasquatch way back into the woods and they tried to keep her. She was just starving to death herself and saying, look, if you don't let me go back, I'm going to die.

8:58 Five years later. Was that Neille as well? Yes, a little wet hope and legacy are hot areas for that. I don't know if I've actually ever heard that one. So you're saying, pretty much an individual's kidnapped. They tried to keep it with them, or keep her with them, but then she was able to escape. They let her go. They let her go. She I'm trying to think they were trying to impregnate her or something like that, but she couldn't stand the smell, and they were keeping her trapped.

9:43 And after they let her go, she got back to her people. They were a little concerned too, because she had changed so much five years, and she was just a nervous wreck and always scared of being taken again. I don't think she survived too long after that. Do you know what her name was? No? But there is a book written about her. Okay, it's a small publication. You'll probably be able to find a copy of it in some of the low books that are in Hope for Yale, and you know, in the different little stores and whatnot. But the natives, I do believe in Squatch and me too was a good bed for sightings. We looked at each other straight. My job was wide open.

10:50 Did she have any certain emotions in her face. Yeah, we looked eye to eyes. She just looked calm and looked soft a little bit on the surprise. At first, the eyes open up, Oh there's something in that car. And she just stood there and looked at me, and her eyes got big, and then they got soft, and she just stared at me for a little while. I know her eyes were brown and they were very dark. I didn't see any white around the pupil. Everything about her was big. So yeah, her eyes were big. But I remember looking at her eyes, and I don't know.

11:33 I have the feeling that she was a nursing mother, so she probably was just as happy to see a small people as I would have been to see a small squatch. Yeah, no, that makes perfect sense. You're looking at me on your screen, right, yes, okay, So the area right here below the nose and to the top of the lip is called the phil trum. That area from what you saw, did you notice anything out of the ordinary or could you describe what you saw about that area right there? It bulged out Okay, they bulged outwards. It was thick.

12:22 Her lips were thin, like a monkey mouth, your tongue up underneath your upper lip and rounded it out with. The length from the top, the length from the top of the lip to the bottom of the nose? Was that longer than most humans? Would you say. Everything on her was longer than most cameras? Yeah? Have you seen anything that looked similar to what you saw that day a painting or a drawing or anything like that. I've painted them myself a few times. Oh wow, I never forgot her.

13:02 Eh, No, I get it yet. And being native, she's I don't know. I think it's familial. Yeah, I totally get it. Is there a way to see your paintings at all, or those online at all or just in areas around the region. I put them on drums and whatnot. I don't know if I still have that. I painted a couple on drums for my husband who's passed away. He was full ledoce age. They have sasquatching little people down in Oklahoma.

13:44 I painted a drum for him. I will. Look through and see if I've kept any pictures of it. A lot of my paintings in that I sold in a gallery in Thunderbam, Ontario. Okay. Yeah, have you ever seen any photos that are public that are similar to what you saw that day. Some are close, but others are just really exaggerated and things I did not see, like the big crown at the top of the head. I didn't see that she had a thicker brow, but she didn't have the heavy pointed skull or anything like that. But then again, that may be a female trait. She was more round headed like a chimpanzee and less like a gorilla.

14:45 What about the neck? Was there any neck at all? No neck? Okay, so it just was like bam. Just bam, yeah, bam. Straight to the shoulders. I wouldn't want to try to put a necklace or my hands around it or anything like that. How far across were the shoulders would you say? Four feet? And she was straight up and down to a bit of a round on the tummy, bit flat in the butt muscle, but flat. They're straight up and down, not like the Caucasian waistline sort of thing. And the figure was similar to that.

15:27 Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages? Do you feel like what you saw that day was more would you categorize it more as an ape type creature or maybe something more human like. More ape like it walked upright like people, but It had the leg muscles of the gorilla, the buttocks of the gorilla, the shoulders, the arms. It was just all strength and all power, but it also had compassion. When they used to live with the people, they would hunt with the people, they would fish with the people, the people things, and then they left. There's a tribe I can't remember if it's Northern British Columbia or South Alaska.

16:39 I think it's North British Columbia where they were hiding, and they actually followed the Sasquatch up to the north coast. Sasquatches is on that tribe's totem. Was that the one time that you've had a visual sighting, or have there been other times where you've had experiences with them? That was the one time that I had the visual sighting. Most of the other things are things that I've heard from Native friends, And I grew up with Native friends for fifty years before I wound up coming down to the States where they'd gone to their cabins and whatnot and threw rocks at their homes, or raided the fish barrels that they had in the sheds, or walked across their yards and literally stepped over their bobbed wire fences and just lift the leg up and over they go and then down into the river to fish or chasing down deer. David, a friend of mine, told me that her and her father had watched one run across the field and their property there and Yale and they was Ruby Creek and they had about five acres and it ran across it came up from the river the Fraser River, crossed over some train tracks, stepped up over their bob

18:14 weier frience, took fish off their fish rack, and then ran across their field and up into the trees there at Ruby Creek. What year was that. About nineteen seventy seven And. You said that was in Ruby Creek area? Yeah, that wasn't anyone really. So there's a famous Ruby Creek incident back in the forties, I know if you've heard about that, the George and Jeannie Chapman. Yep. Is that in the same area then. Or yeah, same area it is. So it's pretty close to that same cabin.

18:55 Yeah. Really, there's a trailway there that they walked. Bear have their path and deer have their path, Swatch has his path. That's that is wild. So the same area where the Ruby Creek incident happened. Then at least people that had something happened in the seventies as well. That's pretty cool. Wow. Do you know any other details about that incident in the seventies that you remember? I think they had another visit about a week later, but there was I can't remember if it was three or four of them that came and they were just seen on the property. One ran across the field, and then two more followed, and then another one followed in behind.

20:00 But apparently there is more than one kind of squatch in that area. Really. Yeah, some have brown eyes, some have red eyes, and some have a yellow eye. So you said brown eyes, red eyes, yellow eyes, yes, and what are the different So are the different eye color ones known for different things or being one being angry or more aggressive? Yeah, but I can't remember if it's the red eye or the yellow eye. Okay, gotcha? Were there ever ones that were seen in the area that had four toes instead of five, Not.

20:49 That I know of, But I do know the habit that natives have of holding up the hand. It's not to say hi, how are you, It's for a finger count? Oh really? Oh? So they're looking for six fingers, right. They're looking they're either looking for four or six. Oh wow, and they do that down They did that down here in the Vata two because of the red haired giants. Love lock cave stuff. Yeah yeah, yeah, Oh my goodness, that's wild. I want to go back to the Jocko real quick, the Jacko store. So do you were you in that area when that was going No, wait, that was earlier.

21:32 That week, right, yeah, it was right at the start of the nineteen hundreds. Yeah, eighteen hundreds, nineteen hundreds eight. Yeah, found Jocko on the side of the tracks or a guy that did find him. He just kept getting tormented by people who wanted Sasquatch stories. Right for forever, probably for the rest of his days. I would guess that's how it works. Do you think growing up in that area, listening to people hear about it, did it sound like it was true or that it was a hoax? To you? I think it was true. I know that the root of it was true. What stories were developed after it to keep the rumor going like we have with all the false stories on the internet now and people ad libbing and whatnot. But I do think they found something and did try to keep it, and I'm glad it got away because it doesn't belong in a box or a zoo or a jail cell or anything like that separated from its family.

22:46 And were there ever any stories up there that you would hear where there were any aggressive encounters or was it pretty much like people wouldn't get hurt? Question? Was the abduction? Ah? Okay, maybe take taking the women and forcing them to try to reproduce or follow them as they go, trapes them through the mountains and not eating properly and not being able to bathe. And of course the female Sasquatch didn't like the female human in her camp. It was a struggle the one guy. It was some kind of trophy.

23:31 Aw did this happen more than once from what you've heard? Yes? Really, yeah, I would look into I would look into the story too of the Forbidden Plateau and Colemox. Let me write that down real quick. So the Forbidden Plateau. It's in the Comox, BC Comox Courtney area of BC. It used to be a ski resort. There was a time when tribes used to live up there and they were going for some kind of potlatcher get together with the Comoxes. The Comoxes went up and found their village completely abandoned, destroyed, food still out, but the people all gone and destroyed. The natives do not go on to Forbidden Plateau anymore.

24:33 And that's on Vancouver Island. Yes, sir, it is okay. Thirty five miles or thirty five minutes south of Campbell River. What year approximately did that happen. Oh, that would have been when the eighteen hundreds. But the story is still told by the natives, and the natives I know on the island would not go on to the Forbidden Plateau. Do you know if that's been written about in any books or is that just an oral tradition that's passed down. Oh, I'm sure you'll find it written somewhere, because it's been told so many times. Lots of natives on Vancouver Island have had reports of up round house sound and whatnot, reports of hearing the sasquatch screaming and whatnot.

25:28 I know that Vancouver Island is just a wild place. I've talked to multiple individuals from that island over the years, and I appreciate you spending your time. I grew up in Campbell River. Oh okay, Okay. I lived in Yale when I was younger, then moved to Campbell River, So yeah, it's British. Columbia is pretty much a hot spot. Washington State is a hot spot and the area is around how many Oklahoma Let's see what other trying to think? Are you saying? Oh, nubby Oklahoma?

26:09 Homedy h O M I n y. That's where the Oshe people are. They've got stories of the Sasquatch little people. Dear woman, got it? Are there any? Oklahoma is another area that I am really interested in. I do a lot of research into, especially southeast. Are there any stories that you remember about that you've heard come out of the Oklahoma area When it comes to Sasquatch. My brother in law and I had quite a talk about it, and he was wondering if maybe it was what is that homopithecus or something like that.

26:52 Okay, sure, he was. Wondering if it had something to do with that. I know that he told he took me out to a park that had a river, and he said that it was where he had seen squatch and where his great grandfather, his name was Chief Bacon Rind. You can look up Chief Bacon Rind and he had seen the little people. He had chased the little people, and when he was following them, and this is a family story, he was following the little people up over a hill and when he got to the top of the hill he saw the conquista doors.

27:44 Oh wow, the. Start of the Spanish invasion. And then of course there was war, right, yeah, exactly when conquistadors. Yeah, I wonder if they're trying to warn him about that or who knows, right. Well, yeah, the little people are tricksters. So if they do you any good, they're going to turn around do you dirty right after. Have you ever heard of any times when the Sasquatch would get into any fights with Native Americans in Oklahoma or any people that you've heard of?

28:33 No fights, no fights. They would hunt with natives, going for a deer with his arrows or whatever, and the squatch shi would run it down and grab it around the neck and pull it over. Squatch could out run the deer. So you've heard stories of that, Yeah, okay, and that was in Oklahoma. Yeah, they would hunt with them. That's extremely interesting. Something I've heard over the years is that different Native American tribes would actually learn from the Sasquatch.

29:15 Is that something that you'd say you've heard that as well, or I've. Heard they led them up into northern British Columbia. They followed them there, so it was a team and with my in laws in Oklahoma, their ancestors deer hunting with them or seeing them in the rivers. This has been a fascinating discussion. And opportunity for me too, because, like I say, I'm sixty eight hidden sixty nine here this in haven't told anybody other than have natives what I've seen or what I've heard or what I've smelled. So it's been nice to let it out.

30:10 Big for society will be right back after these messages. No, absolutely, do you feel like there's maybe even other things that you've heard over the years that that should be shared as well. Regarding Sasquatch, I. Know, if you see them, it's only because they let you, okay, or you've caught them by surprise, which isn't too very often.

30:53 And if you can't find them, our hair of them and stuff like that is touched it it melts like cotton candy in your mouth, just gone. And they won't leave their bones for you. Have you ever. And if you come across one when you're walking. I know there's a little boy who was playing in the bushes and walked back into the trees, got back a little further than he expected to. He was just enjoying his day, doing a little trail turn around, thought he was lost, and he turned around and there was a big, tall squatch standing behind him. He turned around, he faced him, and he looked up, and then he looked down to the ground, and he kept staring at the ground. You don't stare him down. Look down to the ground. You'll walk away uninjured. You stare him down, you're going to be in a challenge.

32:02 Whereabouts did that happen? That was. Slave Lake area of Alberta? Okay, gotcha? Have you heard anything that happened down in Washington State or Oregon that you could share? No, then it's nothing anything first hand with me. But it was after the Mount Saint Helen's eruption. Okay, of course Squatch was affected by that too. People of a rescue party. I won't mention who or what entity, but they did lead some rescuers with vehicles back up into the disaster area looking for survivors, and they called into the woods. They parked on the side of the road, called into the woods, and one squatch walked out, and the group of volunteers on the search just looked up at him with a big wonder of jaw drop and all the rest of that. And the guy that says, I obviously don't need to explain to you guys what this is, right, And they said no, obviously, And they

33:32 went with the swatch to the different areas of the mountain that had caves, and he would cry out in that direction and wait for a response, and if there was no response, there was no survivor. Did you hear this directly from a person that was involved or. No, it's second. Okay, that's very interesting. Wow. Have you heard anything about from the mountain near area. No, but from the cast gades, yeah, the cascade area and around Mount Saint Helen's.

34:23 Gotcha, man, Absolutely absolutely fascinating stuff. If you would say there was a person that was trying to have an interaction with a sasquatch, based on what you've heard over the years, what might be the best way for them to do that? Don't Oh, okay, don't wow? Why would that be. First of all, what would be your purpose in doing so? To expose them out of their hiding? What would that do them? You're dealing with a very natural, very spiritual, very powerful being that if they wanted to, could end all your worldly doings in a heartbeat. But there are people who have been injured or lost and they've actually helped.

35:27 Why go and spoil something for something that's living a natural life, foraging in a natural way. What would you do? Would you put it in a cage? Would you shoot it so it could be taxidermat and you could prove that it exists? What if we wanted to learn from it? If it wanted to teach you, it would. Now if you happen to be out camping or fishing anyone, if it's watching you, then just be still. Just be still.

36:09 It's scoping and checking you out too. It knows better than to trust you. But if you're calm and not aggressive and not trying to fake communication with it, there's a chance you may get a better look. Be patient, give it a chance to come back and visit again, but let it do it on its terms, not yours. Have you ever heard of any interactions where there's been communication where the Sasquatch will try to talk to the person, either through using their mind or verbally.

36:50 Yes, there's a tribal person I know that's in the Oregon area that says they have an agreement between them and squatch that they won't It's kind of a protection. We will continue to guard your area and your secrets, and the Sasquatch will continue to guard them while they're out hunting or whatnot. Some of it's through telepathy, other is through sound, but I can't say it's words sound.

37:30 I got to go in and plug in my cell phone or I'm going to lose you a whole home, gotcha, no problem. But they do vocalise. What kind of vocalizations? Have you heard them do? A mark? A how not? A moan? A hum? Sorry? Could you what was the last thing you had said? Did you say a hum? Uh? On occasion, I've heard of a sing. They sing. I was just going to ask you if you've ever experienced that, because I've heard that all over the place. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they sing. It's not too different than natives sing.

38:22 Do you know why they sing? No, okay, I've heard it's beautiful though, almost angelic sometimes. Yeah, yeah, maybe they sing when it's something to celebrate a new child or a good catch, something like that, or sing in morning. Have you ever heard where they can paralyze a person or stop them from moving. Yeah, they'll keep you from being aggressive. They've frozen people in time warps. That's why I say, don't go looking for trouble. You're gonna freaking find it.

39:08 Yeah, that's funny, Okay, that's wise. Words. You want to stand in the bush or stone, steady, stiff for two or three days and come out of it and one or three days who you are and you can't find your both hands in a flashlight. You've heard it where it happens for two to three days? Yeah? Really? Yeah, you get frozen in a time warp. Is that like a portal? Would that be similar to a portal? You think? For me? A portal is you go in one side, you come out the other, Hoky and stories of Coco Pale. You'll put you in a time warp. You don't want to follow that flute player anywhere either. You don't know what dimension you're going to come out on.

39:54 So why would you get put in a time warp? Do you think. Teach you a good lesson, don't follow me. You're in their own territory. Oh dear, that's that's really interesting. I was in Oregon once and we were in a certain area and I was unable to move for about five minutes. It was very interesting. I don't know, that makes me think of that maybe a different way. Now, Yeah, you get frozen. Don't follow my footsteps, don't follow me. I'm living my life. I'm in my world. I'm living at wild, I'm living at natural, I'm living it.

40:38 As creators said, when the not to be racist or hateful here, but when the native had the white man come into his world, look how it came out for them. So what favors are you going to do? Swatch tracking them down? The best honor you can have is just be out, and if he happens to come up to you, just be calm, don't show any aggression. You're gonna be just fine. But you go trying to take him and expose him and show the world who and what he is and take away all of his protections, you may as well sew yourself up in a sleeping bag with an alligator and a dozen chats. You're going to get the same outcome.

41:28 Good end up like Albert Ossman, you're away into sleeping bag. Yeah, thank goodness. Do you feel like there are any other stories that you heard growing up in that situation that maybe haven't been shared with the outside world yet. Well, there's lots that I've heard about them, swimming and fishing in the rivers and pulling down moose or coming across children. They don't hurt the kids, they don't take the kids, but they don't like to be challenged. Don't stare them in the eyes, turn around and run either.

42:16 Be still. That's the whole truth here. Be still, don't freak out. Yeah. Are you saying that they would find kids or that they would take kids or no? Like I said with the little boy, he was playing in the bushes up by the reservation and he just wandered back into the trees further than he thought he should have, and he thought he was lost. When he turned around, he was staring at the belly button a swatch and he looked up and thought it was squatch, and rather than scream or run, he stood still. He put his eyes to the ground, and Squatch just turned around walked away on him. He wasn't a threat, and don't always look for them on the ground. Look in the branches. Look up.

43:07 Ah. I think that's great advice. I don't think enough people think to look up in the trees. So you're saying that they could be up in the trees watching down. At us, right, right. Lots of natives have reported driving down old logging roads and whatnot and seeing them sitting up in the branches of the trees. Wow. That is absolutely incredible. And it's a thing that when I go out every once in a while and I never look up in the trees, I need to start doing that. I'm always looking down at the ground. Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

43:50 I've often thought of going back along the friezeru there and down that road. And I don't know if that same female would ever walk that way again, but I've often I would like to have seen her again and be able to sit and spend some time with her. I'd have to take a clothes peg for my nose. Oh, it smells like gratten fish hamburgers sitting in the sun with a good dose of bo and bad mouth. Oh man, Yeah, a little helotosis. But there's something spiritual to all of that, something very natural, something deeper than we've been raised to believe with our Christianity in English ways.

44:43 I think it does go deeper than most of us are aware of or maybe willing to even to go. But it definitely does go deeper, and I think we just need to continue learning from your advice. What are is of British Columbia? If I was to focus on certain areas like towns in British Columbia to try to find people to talk to from that town, what would be different areas you might recommend that would have interactions with Sasquatch. Harrison, Legacy, Yale, Hope, Chill All Black, Little Wet Sposum, Boston Bar.

45:35 Thank you, that's awesome, Vegas Mom. This has been an incredible chat. You have no idea how helpful this has been. The information you've shared is priceless. And thank you so much for staying almost an hour up here to chat with me. I really appreciate it. You're welcome when there's lots of good stories here, go up around Ruby Creek and when you do talk to the natives. M do you mind if do you have a could you send me an email just so I have contact with you in the future. If you're interested in that.

46:18 It's Big for Society gmail dot com. Just in case I have any other questions, ask you. I'm a Canadian. I was born in British Columbia. My tribe is mayki At a slave Lake Alberta. Ex police officer in Calgary, truck driver in you El Sands, married American moves south. Here I am today. There you go. It has been a pleasure chatting with you. Thank you so much for coming up, and maybe we'll be able to chat again in the future. But it was so great chatting to you today. You're welcome, and I hope somebody else joins you. Yes, ma'am, you have a great rest of your afternoon. All right, byde bye, Dear you're a big physis.

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