May 7, 2026

Lakota Family Bigfoot Encounters That Spanned Generations | Pine Ridge, South Dakota

Lakota Family Bigfoot Encounters That Spanned Generations | Pine Ridge, South Dakota
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Season 1

For generations, one Lakota family from Pine Ridge Reservation has lived with encounters they never saw as myths. Summer shares childhood sightings, protective dream warnings, strange lights in the South Dakota sky, and a chilling roadside face-to-face moment that stayed with her for decades. This is a powerful firsthand conversation about family history, respect for the unseen, and the beings that still move through the land.

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You're listening to Big Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, pick for Society. Welcome

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back to another episode. We've got the privilege of talking

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to Summer today. Summer is from the Pine Ridge Reservation

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in South Dakota, specifically from the Oglala tribe, also sometimes

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referred to as Lakota. But welcome to the show, Summer.

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How are you doing today?

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I am doing well, Thank you.

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Absolutely. I know a little bit about what we are

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going to be taught talking about. There's a lot of

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information that's going to be shared through this, But is

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there anything else that the listeners would need to know

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about you for context before we start chatting?

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Excuse me just that I'm a part of the Oglausu tribe,

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and like you said, we refer to ourselves also as

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a la kota. I grew up with a traditional family.

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We spoke la kota. We understood la quota, and we

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understood the value of nature and being in balance with nature.

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What do you think it means to be in balance

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with nature? How does one do that?

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To know that we aren't the only thing in this world?

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To know that we need to respect everything that we

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come across, Like if we go out to harvest the

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berries during the fall or late summer, that we lay

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down and offering. Also so knowing that there are other

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beings in this world, then it also remains is like

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a respect for them.

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Also, sure are there certain things that you've found are

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our best to put forward as an offering when you're

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giving those?

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Growing up, we would offer up what we had gathered,

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not everything, but like a handful. We would offer some water,

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And as I grew up, tobacco was a part of it.

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So we just offer like a little a pinch of tobacco.

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And one key thing was a match. I don't know

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why it was a match, but it would alway.

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Be a match, and would that be an unlit match

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or a Layton.

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Spent matchnlit unlit match.

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That that's very interesting. I was just actually out in

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the woods of Tennessee for a camp out, Randy's crypted

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camp out, and there's an individual there. I don't think

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he would probably want his name mentioned, and apologies if

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he does, but I'm going to leave it as not.

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And we were out in the woods and he was

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actually from a tribe in Oklahoma, and I was able

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to see what an offering of tobacco what that actually entails.

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And it was a very it was a fascinating thing

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to watch and to be part of just by being

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in the area. It's just it's a beautiful, beautiful thing

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that happens. It is so summer. Can you take us

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back to what was the first time? And sorry, before

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you get started, is it okay? Are we okay to

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reference as to what we're talking about as bigfoot or

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would you prefer that it be referred to as as

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something else?

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We would call them uh see only in that in

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that basically, remember uh translates to bigfoot because of the

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print in the in the grounds that we would find

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and it would be bigger than uh, your apper, I

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guess regular foot size according to us here, so it

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sometime sea tonka. Some people refer to many other names

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in their languages, but basically that would be for us.

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Very good. So can you think of you know, I

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think back when you're growing up, and what are some

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of the first memories of either hearing about sutanka or

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having an interaction with that.

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The first time I remember having any sort of interaction

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or feeling or anyone else pointing it out was when

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I was about six years old, and that would be

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back in nineteen seventy six, and we were out I

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think it was. We were out picking and we were gathering.

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We have like a I guess it would be called

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a gooseberry, but for us, it's just like a yellow berry.

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And I'm not too sure what the like the plant

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name for it would be officially, but we call it

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a Musticia lata, or it's like a rabbit berry, because

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I guess there's a lot of rabbits are towards the

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bottom of the bush, so it's just describing what's happening

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with that bush. They're a little RedBerry. So when we

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go out to gather things or we would harvest the

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turn ups in the ground. Again, I don't know what

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the American plant name would be for it, but we

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call them team si la in our in our language.

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So we'd gather them, and my grandmother, who was very clean,

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I guess you would say inclined or connected with things,

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she would all of a sudden she would tell us

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to you, and we weren't loud, like screaming or anything.

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All the kids would go along do what we were

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supposed to gather, but we would talk and then she

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would tell us. She would tell us in our language

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in La, which is quiet, and she wouldn't say. She

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wouldn't yell at you, just say amyla. So then all

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the kids would just stop, and then she would say

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wannai huni. She'd say they're here now, and then she

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would refer to either them as like she or which

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is uncle, or tunkashila which is grandfather. And then she

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would tell us to gather up some of the berries

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like a handful of beach, and she would take them

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to a spot and she would say prayers and she

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would take At that time, I didn't notice or anything

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if she took the tobacco or the match, but that's

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what she would take off her and then she would

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tell us that it's time to go, so it wouldn't

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be like a scary thing, but it would be known

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that someone else is there. So we would gather and

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then we'd get all our things together and then we'd

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make our way home. That was the first time I

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didn't see, but I knew that there was a presence

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that she knew of. And later she would describe it

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as the seitanka and she would say that she would

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tell them, tell us that it was like our relative

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that was our uncle or our grandfather, and that they

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were here and we just don't bother them. So I mean,

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that's what I grew up with knowing at that time.

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Do you have any excuse me, do you have any

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ideas of or did you ever learn how your grandmother

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knew that they were there?

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She had learned it from her grandfather. And this was

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this is an interesting story because he would tell and

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he would say dreams. But he would have these dreams

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where he was in a cave and there were like

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little orbs sometimes, and he said there were like squares sometimes,

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but in those orbs or squares, there was like moments

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of people's lives, or people where they were still doing

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what they were doing in their you know how you

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would have Okay, let me do a person washing dishes.

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I think there might have been like some Twilight Zone

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things like this later on in life that I had

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seen and remembered, but a lady washing dishes. So in

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this orb would show this person doing what they were doing,

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but not knowing that they were an orb or a square.

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So he in this cave, he would see these things

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and he would walk along them, and he said it

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was very Some things he couldn't describe, but he would

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say that like a bicycle, and then like just describing

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moments in life, like me right now doing what I'm

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doing right now. This could be in an orb in

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one of or a square in one of those moments,

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and that's what he would see. And some of them

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he couldn't really describe because this is back and he

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spoke La Cota fluently, and he didn't speak very much English,

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so that's where it came from. And he would tell

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us well through stories through her. She would He would

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tell my grandmother that there are other beings in this

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world and beyond, and that we aren't the only ones,

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and he would and that was what she learned, and

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then she would pass it on to us that we

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aren't the only beings in this world where there are

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many other things, and not just describing like human beings

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or or the fish or anything, but like coming from

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somewhere else. So that's where she became familiar with a

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lot of the the Bigfoot and he would describe him

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as a tall, very hairy man. Would they come around

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and they just come through? They they and he would say, well,

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she would tell us us. What he would say is

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that they're there related like they have a link to us,

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and that we shouldn't be scared because there you just

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come through. So I mean that's the first and so

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she became I guess sensitized, and I wouldn't say sensitized,

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but she became familiar with when she would have that

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feeling that they're they're clothes or they're here, and then

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she would just go outside and make an operation. I

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would say, that would be where they came from.

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That is fascinating. Do orbs play? Do orbs show up

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in the Lakota culture quite prevalent or quite often? Or

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is that a kind of rare thing to see.

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Those I wouldn't I can't really say for everyone, but

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are one of the symbols we have in our culture

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is a circle, and it's I guess it would be

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like they would talk about the circle of life, things

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go around, I guess, go around, come around type of thing.

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So they would always talk about don't do bad things

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because it'll come back and get you. So I guess

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in that sense it would be in an orb. As

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far as like a symbol like a sun or I'm

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not too sure if all of all of our people

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or just certain people would would recognize that. M hmm.

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It's it's really interesting. It's it's one of those you know.

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I know the community tries to figure that out because

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it seems that when there's an area with big fodactivity,

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usually you're going to have some sort of ORB or

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light activity in the same area. And I don't think

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we know the answer to that question yet, But is

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summer when you're growing up in this area, was how

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was Satanka viewed by those that you would have you

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would talk to in the community, maybe elders or people

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your age.

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It wasn't really talked about. I mean, we had people

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who would experience things, but they just didn't really talk

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about it because it wasn't like something like I guess common,

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very common, So it was it wasn't, but it was known,

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and so it just wasn't totally talked about. I guess

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you would say like, oh, yeah, I saw one over there.

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It was like you would try to find out why

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you saw it, what you were doing to you cause this,

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I guess, were you doing something you weren't supposed to

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be because they're referred to as part of nature, kind

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of like a guardian maybe. And you were talking about yeah,

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you were talking about the orbs of light, And I

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do remember when I was growing up that when these

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things would happen, and it would there would always be

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a flash of light or like a light zooming off

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into the sky or the light just being there and

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then just you know how it's engulfs or it goes

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within itself. And when you said that, that's what reminded

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me that I would see those, but we wouldn't really

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question because it's like, Okay, that does happen.

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Sure it is in you know, you're grow growing up

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in that area and and that culture.

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Is it?

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Tanaka looked at as a like a physical creature, or

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sometimes like you know, in our community, there's some individuals

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where it's like, you know, it's going through portals, it's you.

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Sometimes you just see the silhouette of it. You see

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kind of like a shimmery look to it instead of

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the actual creature. Are those things that you experience as

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well or.

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Growing up? I saw shadows and I saw the bigfoot then,

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and it if it was scary like it I said,

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got I wanted to leave or anything. It was kind

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of like hmm, you know, you kind of like, Okay,

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it's there. And maybe it was because my grandmother told

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us about them. Maybe it was because we had experienced

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it so often when we would go out and go

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hunting or or go picking gathering before winter came. But

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it was just one of those And I don't know,

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and I can't say it was for everyone that experience

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or that feeling. I know there are some people in

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our area in our reservation who have seen it and

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they were scared. It was like it scared me so bad.

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But for our family being told about them, because it's

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it's I guess normal for our family to see them,

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to see lights, so it isn't a scary experience. And

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she would see I guess him hunching down just watching us.

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I can't say him or her, but because watching us

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as we do things, and us knowing they're there. But

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it's just it wasn't scary.

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How old were you, sorry, how old were you summer

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when that sighting happened?

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The first one was six, and I can say that

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throughout the years, so as I grew up became older,

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we would see them. So I guess I would say,

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like in the falls of every year that I can remember, so.

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Okay, yeah.

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And and sometimes and this is crazy because I don't

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know if it's it's just our family, but sometimes our

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family would wake up and we would have sort of

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the same dream like oh yeah, I dreamed, uh. And

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it wouldn't be like rushing out and telling I dreamed her,

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But throughout the day or some you know, the other night,

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I dreamed about Bigfoot and we were walking along this

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creek and he was on the other side, just walking

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along with us. So it was And for myself, I

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had dreams also, and in my dreams, I would have

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the Bigfoot on the other it was either on the

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other side of the creek or like up in the

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Badlands there's a little plateaus, so they would they wouldn't

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be right beside us, but they'd like be across and

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it was like they would talk I guess telepathically, but

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they would tell us like don't go over here or

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don't do this. And then the ones I would have

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would always be with one that would have like a

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little one with them, so and we wouldn't always talk

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about them in our family. We wouldn't like constantly tell

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each other this is going to happen or did you know?

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It was kind of like each experience that we had

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in our family. There are many of us in our family,

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I would say, about twelve, but we would keep it

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to ourselves until someone brought something up and they're, oh, yeah,

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I had that dream, or or if they were out

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doing something they would say, yep, I did I saw

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one over here or I felt one. So it in

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our family, it's just like a normal thing. I guess.

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You would say, is there anything specific about your family

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that might might explain why they have that that that

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type of back and forth with the Satanka, Yeah.

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I would say, hmm. I can't really say, like it's

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this or that my mother she when she was born,

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and I think I'm not teacher about the research of it,

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but when she was born, she had like the veil

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over her head, and then she had mittens, you know,

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the I don't know what they call it, but it's

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like the they still had. She still had I don't

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know if you know, or maybe you can, but it's

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like a a thin lining or that would cover her.

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My grandmother said that she looked like an astronaut when

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she came when she was born, because she had still

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a covering over her head and they called it a veil,

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and it was connected to around her shoulders and chest.

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But there was still fluid in that veil. And then

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her hands had like mittens. They said they were covered

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in this film. So I'm not too sure exactly what

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that went, like, what it was caused by or anything.

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So when she was born they had to take that

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and she had that. They put it in a bag.

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They kept it for her for I think until she

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was about fourteen, and she said then it was lost.

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She couldn't find it anymore the little and by then

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she said it turned almost into powder. But when she

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was growing up, and this was pretty interesting because she

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would tell me, well, she was growing up. They lived

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in Wombli and this is the northern part of our reservation,

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and they had this was back in the I would

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say late fifties, early sixties, nineteen fifteen, nineteen sixty, and

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she would hear this tune, but she wouldn't tell or

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seeing the tune for us. She said, no, I can't

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share what the tune is because she said I can

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hear it, but I can't with us. She said I

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can't seeing it or I can't hulmet for some reason,

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but she said I can still hear it in my head,

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my memories. So she would hear this, and when she

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was younger, she said, I could helmet and I can

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hum the tune that she would hear, and when she

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would start humming at my grandmother would again would say,

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because see this is a part where I think it's

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so normal in our home, our family. But she would

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start humming this tune my mother, and that my grandmother

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would say, oh waalahi hu ninka, She like, are they

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coming again? So she my mother would and they spoke Lakota,

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so she would answer huh, which was yes. So my

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grandmother would make like a little lunch for my mother,

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because she said she knew that she wouldn't be here

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or come back for a bit, that she would be

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visiting with them. So my mother would take her lunch

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with her and they would meet. She at that time,

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they had like these combines and they would go there,

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and she said that they were like really white beings

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and they had really she said, she said, really white hair,

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and they looked like people. But she said they had

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a little larger eyes and they wouldn't move their mouths.

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But she said they would talk to her. They would

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call her by her name, and when she was younger,

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it was Teresa, so they would talk to her as Teresa,

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and they would walk along and they would ask her

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questions about what is this, and she would and they

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would ask her to reply in la coota what it

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was not English? So then she and she said, the

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crazy thing is is that when they spoke, she said

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she doesn't know how she understood them, because she said

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it would just be in her her mind the questions

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they were asking. So she would be with them and

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then they would tell her that they needed to go

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home now, and so she would have I mean, well,

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they were she was visiting with them, she'd eat her lunch,

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but they wouldn't eat. And so it's kind of like,

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I guess, things intertwining with each other. And my mother

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growing up, my grandmother and my grandfather on my mother's

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side would just like he would nod and yes, they're here, Yes,

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that happens. And it wouldn't be like, oh my, gotcha.

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It's just like a normal thing.

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That is absolutely fascinating. I'm trying to wrap my mind

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around it. So do you think then your mother had

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experiences meeting with Satanka or you know, thinking of that description,

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it almost sounds like, I mean, could be some kind

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of alien or I don't know. It's just such a

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fascinating description of what she experienced.

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Yes, and growing as she grew up, she grew older,

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and then she started learning about people having alien abduction

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experiences and all this. She said, you know, maybe that's

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what they were, But to her, they were friends. To her,

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they were beings that just came and they would talk

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with her. They would ask with questions, and she would

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ask them. She would try to find out where they

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came from, but they would they wouldn't tell her where

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they coming.

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Did your family have a certain role within the tribe.

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I would say no, not really, because my grandmother, her

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grandfather was umm was one of the survivors of the

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Battle of a Little Bighorn and also one of the

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survivors of the battle here at Wounded Knee. I don't

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know if you're very familiar with them, but he was

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one of the survivors. So it isn't like he would

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go off learn of these things and come back like

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go somewhere and they would talk about aliens and bigfoot

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openly to him, and he would he had these experiences,

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and he wouldn't really talk to anybody, but he would

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talk to my grandmother because he felt that connection with her,

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and then my mother would. My grandmother would talk with

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my mother and a few of her sons about what

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was going on and what was happening. So our family

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would always experience lights, we would have bigfoot encounters. I

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mean it was again, I would say, for our family,

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it's a it was a normal.

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Thing, right. Okay, So you have experienced telepathic communication yourself

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with the Satanka, Is that correct?

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Yes? Through the dreams I would.

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Have Okay, can you remember when that started? Was there

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something going on? Maybe an interaction. Do you think that

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kicked that off? Sometimes people will have a you know,

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an experience, a certain experience or go to a certain area,

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and then they'll start having dreams like this. You think

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there could be any anything that started causing this or

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any thoughts about that.

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Mm because growing up, it wasn't like taught taught to

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us or the use experience will happen or sort of

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subliminally or or given that thought, so then we become

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we start having that thought. It was the adults would

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talk with adults and the children would be with the children.

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So it wasn't the like the adults telling us this

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will happen to you or this is going to happen

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to you. All of us would have our own experiences.

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And I think what we would go into the creeks

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where we lived when growing up, maybe about half a

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mile away there was a big creek. There is a

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creek going through tall trees, dead trees falling over the creek,

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so we could go across them. I mean, all of

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us children would just go out and play. At that time,

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it was so safe to just go like six or

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seven of us and play in the creek and not

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worry about anything else, and then we would come home

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and during those times, all of us would just kind

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of like stop and we'd all look at the same

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direction but not really know why, and then we would

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start playing again. And after those times, then I recall

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that I would have a dream and that dream would

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just tell me where to be safe, to watch out

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this part of the creek or I mean, and not

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knowing exactly why. And I would later on tell my

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mom and she said, well, you better listen to your dream.

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Don't go in that area. So we wouldn't or I

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wouldn't go in that area, so it I guess it

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wasn't a you're how would you say? The adults wouldn't

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push it on us that we would have these experiences.

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They would keep those experiences they had amongst themselves to

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not influence I guess us as children that this is

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going to happen to you. Until we would start telling

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them about our dreams and they would say, oh, and

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it wasn't like oh my gosh, or what are you

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talking about. It was just oh, kind of like an

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accepting it's starting with you now type of I guess

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a response that.

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Is that is really fascinating. Do you have. So the

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interesting thing is that even in I would say cultures

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outside of like the Lakota, people are starting to have

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and I guess have for a while, are starting to

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have dreams like this and communication and telepathic communication. Do

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you have any advice for individuals that are starting to

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have those type of communications.

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I'm not sure if I would say advice, but it's

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just like accepting except what the messages. Don't try to

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go deeper than what the telling you, because then you

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start to doubt. I think, in my opinion that when

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they tell you a message like me growing up telling

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me not don't come over in this area in that creek,

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and I see it, and it would be a bigfoot

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with a smaller bigfoot like a child telling me that

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you shouldn't go in this area. Don't come and play

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in this area. It's not safe in me not knowing

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that area or going there prior to playing there or

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exploring down there. So it would be don't try to

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make it more than what they're telling you. If they're

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telling you to just be safe whatever you're doing, then

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take that and tell yourself or just be safe if

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you face value, yes, and don't try to go deeper

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and analyze it more and more, because then that message

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they told you well isn't worth what they told you.

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Sure sure.

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Can summer. Can you think of any other times where

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you've had an interaction or sighting of some kind with

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Satanka over the years.

470
00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:36.239
There is one and I and I did write to

471
00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:39.960
you about it. We went up and further back into

472
00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:44.440
our area here and it's called towards Grass Creek and

473
00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:48.960
it's in middle of like Oklala in Manderson area. If

474
00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:52.519
you look on a map, there's like Oklala is southern

475
00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:57.599
I guess southern would be, and then Manderson there's an

476
00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:03.000
area that's sort of had like bluffs, these pieces of

477
00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:07.079
earth that have come up like a butte, single buttes.

478
00:36:08.039 --> 00:36:11.360
So we were back there, and this was maybe about

479
00:36:11.960 --> 00:36:15.400
when I was nine, maybe I think I might have.

480
00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:19.199
I don't know if I dated it. But we were

481
00:36:19.239 --> 00:36:24.679
back there and again we were gathering, we were looking

482
00:36:24.719 --> 00:36:28.039
for turn ups, and we do this as a family.

483
00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:30.719
It isn't just like one or two of us, like

484
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:35.639
maybe about seven, seven to ten of us, and it's

485
00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:39.559
usually just our families. So we were doing this and

486
00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:46.519
suddenly I can't remember who it was, but told us, Oh, look,

487
00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:50.639
there's a why would someone put up a circus tent

488
00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:55.639
out here? And we're like circus tent? And me I

489
00:36:55.719 --> 00:36:58.880
didn't was like, oh, circus tint because being a child

490
00:36:58.960 --> 00:37:04.519
getting excited. We all gathered and we looked and there

491
00:37:04.559 --> 00:37:09.159
was this multi colored it did look like a circus tant,

492
00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:15.480
just rotating. And this was maybe about a mile I'm

493
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:22.639
not too sure length wise, but to me there was this.

494
00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:25.519
We were up on this hill you go into the

495
00:37:26.079 --> 00:37:29.119
ravine and then there was a small hill and then

496
00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:32.679
another hill. So maybe I would say maybe about a

497
00:37:32.760 --> 00:37:37.119
mile from where we were a mile or so, No,

498
00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:40.519
that would big too, I'd say about three miles thinking

499
00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:43.360
about it, about three miles from us. But it was

500
00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:47.920
big enough for us to see the colors there was

501
00:37:48.079 --> 00:37:51.760
and I remember red, yellow, blue, and they would be

502
00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:56.280
rotating and it was really shiny, and outside of it

503
00:37:56.280 --> 00:37:59.960
it looked like there was a person standing outside it,

504
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:08.920
kind of like looking around and just looking. And just

505
00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:14.960
about then, my grandmother's a say in Lacota, it would

506
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:21.480
be there they are and she would say that, and

507
00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:24.360
we looked and it was like in our brains it

508
00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:27.840
was like oh, and it wasn't like a oh no,

509
00:38:27.880 --> 00:38:31.519
we're I think it was like, oh, so we watched it.

510
00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:35.639
So we watched it, and we were this person or

511
00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:40.679
this being outside. Then it turned and it looked at us.

512
00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:43.519
And when it turned and looked at us, I don't

513
00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:49.960
remember anything after that. I only remember driving. We were

514
00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:54.559
all in the our vehicle and we were going home.

515
00:38:55.360 --> 00:39:00.840
Was it when I remember? So it's there's a lot

516
00:39:00.880 --> 00:39:10.000
of I guess for us, lights, beings, bigfoot all interact

517
00:39:10.039 --> 00:39:15.840
in our family's life. It isn't just one thing. And

518
00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:21.559
I can't say that going back culturally, that it's a

519
00:39:21.639 --> 00:39:25.079
thing that happens. I think it has to be an

520
00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:31.519
individual experience or family experience like ours and my and

521
00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:34.400
oh and another. My uncle would come down from Canada,

522
00:39:35.239 --> 00:39:39.599
he was raised in British Columbia, and he would come

523
00:39:39.639 --> 00:39:41.880
down and he would he would do the same thing,

524
00:39:41.920 --> 00:39:47.199
and he would refer to them as brothers or grandfathers.

525
00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:52.000
And it was crazy because he said he would learn,

526
00:39:52.119 --> 00:39:55.880
he learned that you do these offerings for them where

527
00:39:55.880 --> 00:40:02.119
he was in Canada and British Columbia, and when he

528
00:40:02.119 --> 00:40:05.360
would come down here he would we would and it

529
00:40:05.400 --> 00:40:07.760
wasn't like, oh, did you see your big vote or anything.

530
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:11.840
It was, it would come into play. I guess as

531
00:40:11.840 --> 00:40:17.320
we as everyone spoke in their offerings, and they would

532
00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:21.760
do the same with the match, the unlit match. So

533
00:40:21.880 --> 00:40:26.119
it was I mean, I don't know how to describe that.

534
00:40:26.280 --> 00:40:32.280
It was normal, normal for everyone. For our family, it

535
00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:38.480
was normal. It was part of I guess our lives.

536
00:40:39.719 --> 00:40:45.679
Yeah, do you do you think those encounters and experiences

537
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:48.880
are still happening in your family today?

538
00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:54.519
I do. I do think they are still happening. Is

539
00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:59.599
just because of now everyone sort of I saw a

540
00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:06.920
bigot and sort of making it into a joke and

541
00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:12.559
that they don't really share anymore. I know my last

542
00:41:12.920 --> 00:41:17.760
time I ever like I saw him or her face

543
00:41:18.760 --> 00:41:22.400
right in front of me right And this was back

544
00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:29.239
when nineteen ninety one, and it was here in Pine

545
00:41:29.320 --> 00:41:33.480
Ridge and we were crossing. I was driving to a

546
00:41:33.639 --> 00:41:38.239
church function. It was kind of evening, and I had

547
00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:41.519
this feeling. But the crazy thing was was this time

548
00:41:41.599 --> 00:41:46.320
this feeling I had was sort of an eerie feeling.

549
00:41:47.639 --> 00:41:50.199
So I kind of slowed down. I was looking around

550
00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:54.480
because if you look on a map toward of Pine Ridge,

551
00:41:54.519 --> 00:41:58.119
there's this certain road towards the high school we called

552
00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:01.559
just the high school. It's Pine High School. But there's

553
00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:07.400
a row of cottonwood that were planted along this road,

554
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:11.559
and there's a and back then there were more. But

555
00:42:11.960 --> 00:42:15.840
this being came out and it just looked at I

556
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:17.639
was in the car. It was a smaller car, like

557
00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:21.400
a Toyota, a small car, and it just looked at me.

558
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:25.800
And I just had this really eerie, like I don't

559
00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:31.079
want to be here feeling, as opposed to usually they're like, oh,

560
00:42:31.239 --> 00:42:34.400
like a hi, how are you as I'm going by,

561
00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:38.920
But this was like ah, And I just sped up

562
00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:42.119
and I laughed, and as I looked in my rear

563
00:42:42.199 --> 00:42:45.800
room mirror, it walked across like one two steps and

564
00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:48.920
it went into the the other side of the road.

565
00:42:49.400 --> 00:42:54.519
But that one just stuck with me, that feeling. It

566
00:42:54.559 --> 00:42:59.039
was a different feeling. So I'm not too sure exactly

567
00:42:59.159 --> 00:43:04.440
what that meant, what it if anything. I don't remember

568
00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:09.880
anything horrible happening afterwards or are, but it was just

569
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:13.760
that one moment that just and it just didn't feel

570
00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:20.039
right as the normal the usual encounters. This one just

571
00:43:20.199 --> 00:43:22.719
didn't feel didn't feel right.

572
00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:26.079
Do you remember anything about the way it looked.

573
00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:31.440
It was more sleek and that's one of the things

574
00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:36.480
that made me think about it. Was it really him

575
00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:41.079
or was it something else? And it was just more

576
00:43:41.280 --> 00:43:47.760
sleek and darker. And they don't have like the the

577
00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:53.000
big you don't have the gorilla type of face they describe.

578
00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:57.760
Usually when we see them, they're more gentle faced. And

579
00:43:58.039 --> 00:44:01.840
I guess I don't know how you would say how

580
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:10.639
you would describe more gentle based more not so I

581
00:44:11.079 --> 00:44:15.599
don't know how you would say that, or how I

582
00:44:15.639 --> 00:44:19.159
could describe that as the normal when we would see

583
00:44:19.199 --> 00:44:22.760
them as more gentle and this one that I saw

584
00:44:23.519 --> 00:44:32.400
was sleek, looked meaner, and it just didn't feel right.

585
00:44:32.920 --> 00:44:34.599
That's all I can say it.

586
00:44:34.599 --> 00:44:39.199
It didn't feel great, okay, And ever since then, like so,

587
00:44:39.320 --> 00:44:43.239
there's been no communication at all since that time.

588
00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:48.039
Dreams, dreams, and when we go out into the care

589
00:44:48.679 --> 00:44:51.920
the crazy thing is is growing up, growing my children up.

590
00:44:52.599 --> 00:44:58.239
I didn't really express to them what I had experienced

591
00:44:58.360 --> 00:45:04.400
or what was their grandmother or it was just okay,

592
00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:08.000
if they have an experience, they'll have an experience and

593
00:45:08.039 --> 00:45:11.360
then we can help them type of thing, and we

594
00:45:11.400 --> 00:45:14.079
would go out again, because that's what we did during

595
00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:20.559
this late summer and fall aways go pick things, herbs,

596
00:45:20.719 --> 00:45:25.119
the little fruits and the to dry them for the winter,

597
00:45:26.199 --> 00:45:30.880
and they had their they would have these feelings. They said,

598
00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:35.119
I had this feeling I was being watched. Mom. Then

599
00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:38.440
I said, well, was it scary or was it the No,

600
00:45:39.039 --> 00:45:43.599
I just thought that behind that tree there was someone

601
00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:48.079
watching me. So I said, oh, and I would just

602
00:45:48.239 --> 00:45:53.440
ask did it scare you? What do you think would happen?

603
00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:59.000
And they said nothing, just like there was someone there. So,

604
00:45:59.440 --> 00:46:02.880
I mean, it was so with my children, it isn't

605
00:46:03.360 --> 00:46:07.760
a scary thing. It's just like, oh okay, and not

606
00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:09.280
me influencing them.

607
00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:13.239
Either, right right, it would excuse me, it would make me.

608
00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:16.679
I'm trying to think of, you know, being a parent

609
00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:19.400
in that situation. I think, I think it would make

610
00:46:19.400 --> 00:46:25.920
me feel good that my children are experiencing the same thing.

611
00:46:26.440 --> 00:46:30.280
But I did not influence them to experience it. You know,

612
00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:31.920
I think that would be pretty cool.

613
00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:36.519
Exactly because you just want you want it to be individualized.

614
00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:40.239
I guess to make sure that it is true to them.

615
00:46:41.840 --> 00:46:46.039
And my parents didn't influence me either, so it's it

616
00:46:46.079 --> 00:46:50.679
was a I mean, I guess, how would you say

617
00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:55.320
that be a more of a spiritual maybe experience.

618
00:46:55.679 --> 00:47:03.960
Than more more spiritual personal experience. Yes, Summer, it is

619
00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:07.760
really a fascinating story when you step back and you

620
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:11.719
look at the entire picture and you see that you know,

621
00:47:11.800 --> 00:47:17.480
really it is a almost a circular, a circular repeating

622
00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:21.000
experience that keeps happening through these generations of this one

623
00:47:21.079 --> 00:47:26.320
family in the the Oglala tribe. And just thank you

624
00:47:26.360 --> 00:47:30.199
so much for sharing that with us those that have

625
00:47:30.239 --> 00:47:33.320
an outsider's view. And I think there are many different

626
00:47:33.320 --> 00:47:36.880
things that people can take away from from this conversation.

627
00:47:37.159 --> 00:47:40.480
But you know, before we do we do go, I

628
00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:42.599
want to make sure that you were able to share

629
00:47:43.119 --> 00:47:46.400
everything that you had wanted to share on the show

630
00:47:46.400 --> 00:47:50.960
today about you know, your experiences or thoughts about them.

631
00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:56.000
I do believe that in our tribe we do believe

632
00:47:56.199 --> 00:48:01.920
in beings other than ourselves. And I know that there

633
00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:06.199
are other people in our tribe who have also had experiences,

634
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:13.760
and some do have have made a YouTube channel, but

635
00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:19.199
really haven't come across with like solid evidence of a

636
00:48:19.280 --> 00:48:27.599
siding or so. It makes me wonder if like the

637
00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:31.039
Bigfoot really want to be seen by them, or if

638
00:48:31.079 --> 00:48:36.840
there was a bluke knowing me, knowing how my experiences

639
00:48:36.880 --> 00:48:45.800
are and it's just I guess, a way of opening

640
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:50.880
up your mind and your feelings towards them. And for me,

641
00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:57.920
they're more of a kindred, more of a family than

642
00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:06.159
of oh, like making them different, and that's learning from

643
00:49:06.239 --> 00:49:14.280
family experiences from past, and I guess that was how

644
00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:17.480
I would say it just for our family. For my family,

645
00:49:18.079 --> 00:49:23.599
it's more they're more kindred. And it's crazy because my

646
00:49:23.760 --> 00:49:28.599
husband we don't talk about these things constantly. And one

647
00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:32.599
day we were talking and he was coming up from

648
00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:37.119
New Mexico and there's this pass that they were going through,

649
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:40.760
and he said, there was a car on the side

650
00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:44.320
of the road and they were pointing towards the like

651
00:49:44.440 --> 00:49:48.559
the I guess the lower part of the mountains. There's

652
00:49:48.639 --> 00:49:54.239
this what they call them where you can park on

653
00:49:54.320 --> 00:49:57.840
the side of the road. I forget what the name is.

654
00:49:58.119 --> 00:50:01.920
But there was a car standing in the he said.

655
00:50:01.960 --> 00:50:06.400
The man was kind of like waving his hands and

656
00:50:06.440 --> 00:50:11.360
pointing towards the trees. So he slowed down and he

657
00:50:12.920 --> 00:50:15.599
just as they were going through, he said, he slowed

658
00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:18.760
down just to make sure they were okay. And where

659
00:50:18.760 --> 00:50:21.599
they were pointing, he looked and he said there was

660
00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:27.239
a Bigfoot just walking, like the lower part was walking

661
00:50:27.239 --> 00:50:31.519
through daytime, just walking and this man was like, there

662
00:50:31.519 --> 00:50:34.840
it is, there it is. And they just watched him

663
00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:38.199
and he said he just went behind a tree and

664
00:50:38.239 --> 00:50:43.079
that was and he was gone. So he's had one

665
00:50:43.199 --> 00:50:49.000
or two experiences of his own seeing Bigfoot, and he

666
00:50:49.079 --> 00:50:52.079
said he just had that feeling, not a scared feeling,

667
00:50:52.159 --> 00:50:56.360
but like a wow, I'm kind of not a like

668
00:50:56.400 --> 00:50:58.639
oh my gosh, I should have ad my camera. I

669
00:50:58.719 --> 00:51:02.559
think it's just he has watched him and he said

670
00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:09.480
that they're such awesome beings.

671
00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:13.280
I think what it comes down to, this is something

672
00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:17.880
I'm learning myself, is but just from the people I

673
00:51:17.920 --> 00:51:22.519
talk to, the people that have a certain type of experience,

674
00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:26.800
they seem to have gone from having a spirit of

675
00:51:26.920 --> 00:51:32.000
fear to a spirit of awe or respect and just

676
00:51:32.280 --> 00:51:37.079
being present. So I think I think there is something

677
00:51:37.719 --> 00:51:40.440
to that making sure you're in the right mindset and

678
00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:46.840
the right intention when you are having or maybe even

679
00:51:46.880 --> 00:51:49.280
trying to have interactions. Make sure you're doing it for

680
00:51:49.320 --> 00:51:51.719
the right reason exactly.

681
00:51:52.119 --> 00:51:55.960
And I think that if you look for it constantly,

682
00:51:56.199 --> 00:51:58.360
you're wanting to see it. You're wanting to see it.

683
00:51:59.079 --> 00:52:03.480
Sometimes you don't because I think that they can feel,

684
00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:09.440
you know how babies and animals can feel your vibe,

685
00:52:08.679 --> 00:52:13.559
your intention. I think that sometimes they can feel that

686
00:52:14.239 --> 00:52:19.519
and they don't show themselves to certain people. And is

687
00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:26.519
my feeling because I didn't grow afraid of them. I

688
00:52:26.760 --> 00:52:29.719
just grew up knowing that they're there. They're part of

689
00:52:29.880 --> 00:52:34.239
this world, and they have their ways of doing things

690
00:52:34.280 --> 00:52:37.639
and we have ours. So it's just learning to live

691
00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:41.519
with each other. For some reason, I don't know.

692
00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:46.320
I think that is a great way to say, you know,

693
00:52:46.519 --> 00:52:49.760
learning to live with each other. And now who knows

694
00:52:49.960 --> 00:52:53.880
what the future will bring with things, but yeah, we

695
00:52:53.920 --> 00:52:57.480
would definitely need to learn how to live with each

696
00:52:57.519 --> 00:53:01.280
other for sure. But some are thank you for coming

697
00:53:01.320 --> 00:53:04.079
on the show and for sharing what you've learned over

698
00:53:04.159 --> 00:53:07.639
the years, and it's it's very special that we're able

699
00:53:07.679 --> 00:53:12.360
to hear you, know, your your voice and viewpoint, and

700
00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:18.320
thank you for teaching us that. But I do also

701
00:53:18.440 --> 00:53:20.760
and I'll probably edit this out a little bit. Are

702
00:53:20.800 --> 00:53:23.000
there ways that people can reach out to you or

703
00:53:23.079 --> 00:53:27.320
is just a deal where you know you've agreed to

704
00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:29.719
come on the show and to share and we'll leave

705
00:53:29.760 --> 00:53:30.639
things at that.

706
00:53:31.800 --> 00:53:34.400
Well, if they'd like to reach out. I don't know

707
00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:40.119
I should I give like an email or head this

708
00:53:40.239 --> 00:53:46.599
up to you. Well, yeah, I can be emailed at

709
00:53:47.639 --> 00:53:51.360
fox Billy f O x b E l l Y

710
00:53:52.559 --> 00:53:59.000
dot Gypsy g y P s Y dot moon m

711
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O N at gmail dot com.

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Fantastic. Well, thank you so much for coming on the

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show today, Summer. It has been a pleasure talking to

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you today.

715
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Same here. I have followed you for a while and

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I just had the notion to like, you know, I

717
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need to share what I've gone through and what my

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family has gone through, and not in a horrible way,

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but just this is what our family. This is like

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a generational thing and it isn't bad. I mean, I

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guess have.

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You ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity around Oakridge, Oregon?

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And you think to yourself, man, I would love to

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get out in those woods and experience it for myself.

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Well guess what this year you can If this is

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interesting to you, stay tuned because it's pretty cool. Sasquatch

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Summer Fest is coming up July tenth through the eleventh.

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Six It's gonna be even better than the previous year's.

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Reason number one, I'll be one of the speakers. It's

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gonna be wild. I'll probably I'll say this, there may

731
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be stuff you haven't heard anywhere else, because let's just

732
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say sometimes it's well, you just gotta be there. We'll

733
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leave at that. More about looking for Bigfoot in the

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Oakridge Woods. Now check this out. You may know Jason

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Kenzie from his documentary series Searching for Sasquatch. Well, this

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year you can not only go to the festival, but

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you can also sign up for a track deep in

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the wild forest outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to

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the Bigfoot Spots to look for Bigfoot. There's only eight

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spots to sign up for this, and yes, this will

741
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also be filmed for the next chapter in his documentary series,

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which is Searching for Sasquatch. This is a once in

743
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a lifetime deal. It's just trust it's going to be

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a wild, wild experience. To get a ticket, head on

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over to Sasquatch Summerfest dot com and listeners can use

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the code b sp like Bigfoot Society podcast in order

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to get a two day pass for the price of

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a one day pass. So thanks to Priscilla for giving

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me that code so that you guys can can get

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a little a little help with the cost there. Appreciate that, Priscilla.

751
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I hope to see you at the booth in Oakridge

752
00:56:43.880 --> 00:56:47.320
this year. We can talk about your encounter. Was able

753
00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:49.639
to talk to so many people last year and the

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year before. It is an incredible time. You're not going

755
00:56:53.920 --> 00:56:55.679
to want to miss it, and I'll see you there.

756
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Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

757
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directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

758
00:57:03.599 --> 00:57:07.360
in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've

759
00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:10.239
seen something that no one can explain, or if you're

760
00:57:10.239 --> 00:57:13.519
a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told

761
00:57:13.559 --> 00:57:16.960
to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen something

762
00:57:17.039 --> 00:57:19.960
strange down on the ground, or if you're with the

763
00:57:20.119 --> 00:57:24.000
FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you stumbled

764
00:57:24.039 --> 00:57:26.880
upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And if

765
00:57:26.920 --> 00:57:30.480
you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder who's

766
00:57:30.480 --> 00:57:34.079
heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense, if

767
00:57:34.119 --> 00:57:37.800
you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field

768
00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:41.000
or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something

769
00:57:41.079 --> 00:57:44.480
happen that you've never told a soul, and if you're

770
00:57:44.519 --> 00:57:48.360
a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under

771
00:57:48.400 --> 00:57:51.760
contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

772
00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:54.800
If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

773
00:57:54.800 --> 00:57:58.280
spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,

774
00:57:59.000 --> 00:58:02.119
or if you work in the shadow, CIA, NSA or

775
00:58:02.159 --> 00:58:05.480
anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

776
00:58:06.840 --> 00:58:10.320
then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

777
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You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

778
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The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

779
00:58:18.519 --> 00:58:24.280
carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story,

780
00:58:24.840 --> 00:58:28.679
We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank

781
00:58:28.719 --> 00:58:31.559
you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast.

782
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Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is

783
00:58:34.119 --> 00:58:37.239
bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth

784
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is often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you

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792
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if you or someone you know has had a Bigfoot sighting,

793
00:59:04.440 --> 00:59:06.960
please I'd love to hear from you, so email me

794
00:59:07.079 --> 00:59:10.440
at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com and let's start

795
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the conversation. If you haven't gotten a chance yet, check

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out our membership community over at www dot Bigfoot Society

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people that are into the Bigfoot subject as much as

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you are. Thanks again for following along with the Bigfoot

802
00:59:33.199 --> 00:59:36.679
Society until next time, keep your eyes open, trust your gut,

803
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and never stop asking what else might be out there?

804
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And see you in the woods.