Jan. 24, 2026

Living With Bigfoot in Rural Arkansas | Footprints, Sightings, and Ongoing Activity

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Season 1

In this episode of Bigfoot Society, Ray and Lisa from rural Arkansas share their ongoing experiences living on a secluded property where unexplained activity has become part of daily life.


What began with strange odors and distant screams grew into repeated discoveries of large footprints, wood knocks echoing through the holler, and increasing activity along their fence line. Over time, multiple visual sightings occurred, including encounters with tall upright figures moving through nearby woods and across neighboring land.


As researchers and investigators visited the property, additional physical evidence was documented, and several guests witnessed activity firsthand. Ray and Lisa describe patterns tied to seasonal changes, wildlife movement, and the natural layout of the land, including nearby water sources, food corridors, and dense cover.


This episode features detailed firsthand testimony, long-term observations, and a situation that continues to unfold. The experiences are shared carefully, with respect for the land and the presence they believe moves through it.

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You're listening to Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to

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bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've

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seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers

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to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, Big the Society, Welcome

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back to another episode. We've got the privilege of talking

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to Ray and Lisa today down there in the great

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state of Arkansas. Ray is a former police officer, police detective,

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and former marine Thank you for your Servicer. And Lisa

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is retired the housewife and author of the book Once

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Upon a Time in prim Arkansas, my journal on Bigfoot,

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and I'll have the links to that in the show notes.

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And you guys are on here to share what has

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been going on with your property in the last few

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years and things as recent as last night. So welcome

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to the show. Guys, how's it going good? Thanks for

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having us absolutely. Also, I think it might be important

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to point out we got we got some off screen

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friends with us. We got six six dogs in the background,

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which are which are awesome. So if anyone hears any scuffland,

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that's all we got going on there. And they sound

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like they're some cool dogs.

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So yeah, that's what they're doing.

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That's perfect, perfect. Well, guys, where do we want to

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start with this? I'm going to let you guys take

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over from here.

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So in June of we live like way out in

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the Boonies and we have about three acres of land.

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About an acre of it is our fenced backyard where

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our dogs stay, and then another two acres generally is

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what we call the holler. We just the first we

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moved out here in twenty twenty two, and the first

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summer we were here, we mowed it down, you know,

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because it's our property and we didn't have any didn't

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have anything going on then. And then the uh, I

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believe the summer of twenty three, we let it grow

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grow back because we just didn't want to deal with

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it anymore. You know, Whant I damage my mower or

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any we didn't bushog it anymore, what they call it.

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But we didn't have anything until June of twenty twenty four,

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and that's when we really let it grow in and

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we started feeding the deer out there, because everybody around

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here hunts and we don't, so it's more like a

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refuge for the for the deer. And you know, we

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had a bunch of times where you know, you'd be

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out on the back we have a back porch where

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we sit, and you know, you just get this this

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weird smell. It was like it's like like a cross

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between a rotting carcass and a skunk and a dead animal.

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But you know there's no vultures, you know, it just

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and then from time to time. I think the first

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time we heard like these screams from like our back

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collar and there's there's nobody that lives around us, I

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mean just nobody. I mean we're like half a mile

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from from the nearest person and they're not out that

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way that towards the left of us. And you know,

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it wasn't like it wasn't a bird. It wasn't it

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wasn't a coyote. We know what coyote? You sound like

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it wasn't It wasn't a bear. It was just a

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weird like scream. It was a couple two three times

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and we got a little, you know, got a little nervous,

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not gonna lie. And that started June second, twenty twenty four,

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and then June and July we started to hear more

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of the same thing. When we go out back, more

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of the screams. Uh, you'd hear some wood knocks. And

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I don't mean like a wooder, because I know what

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a woodpecker sounds like. We got them in our trees,

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but it was like out in the out in the

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back forty where there's just nothing out there. I mean

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there's trees and that's it. I mean, if you walk

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straight from our house, straight through our property, you're not

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going to hit another property until you cross down through

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the valley up and over, probably a couple four or

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five miles away. So we started to hear that stuff.

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The big thing for me that really started it was January,

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actually January twelfth of twenty twenty five. We had just

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gotten a big snow. We got about eight inches and

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normally I when I was going to go feed the deer,

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and normally I take my more out there, because's fifty

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pounds bag of deer. For now, they're like walking, but

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it's snow so I couldn't do that.

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Went out there feed the deer and as I'm walking back,

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just beyond our fence line, I see the It looks

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like a footprint, I mean, and it's big. I mean,

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I have pictures of it. It's in Lisa's book. And

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nobody goes on our property. I mean just it's gated in.

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And it was just like, okay, wow, now that's that's

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not normal. So I took a couple of pictures, sent

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him to my brother because he's a he's a hunter.

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He knows pretty much everything there is, and he goes,

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I have no idea what that is.

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Send him to a couple of neighbors that are hunters.

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Yep, they had absolutely no idea what it was. You

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know it it wasn't a bootprint. I don't know how

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degregated it was, dude. It wasn't that bad off because

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it had just snowed, so it was a pretty accurate print.

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There was a couple more around there, but that was

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the first time that I had really outside of the

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screams and the smell. The smell. That's the first real

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physical evidence that I had seen up to that point.

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How long would you estimate that that footprint was.

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Twelve or thirteen inches? I mean, yeah, it was. It was.

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It was big. I mean, even with me wearing boots,

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I wouldn't have made that print. And it was like

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it was like one there was like a couple prints.

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It was like one that I could really take a

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good picture of. The other one was kind of it

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was kind of half washed away. And then there was

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no more because we're back up to like basically the

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brush area, so I couldn't tell where they'd come in

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and where they'd gone out, but I darn sure wasn't

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about to go back out through the bush. I mean

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you could see where there's deer trails and stuff like that,

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so it was pretty big. If it was something small,

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like I said, I saw it right away. There was

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like nothing else around it. It was just it was

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just very weird that it was out there, and it

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was right behind right like right against our fence line,

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and there were some broken tree brand is out there too,

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So but I was more concerned with the uh. I

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was more concerned with the what do you call it

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the footprint. There was another incident later that month where

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we we left to go out, uh we whether go

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into the town to do some chores or whatever, just

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get some groceries, whatever, and we have our trash cans

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that are out front. They're plastic, they have ovalds, you know,

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the standard ones. And when we came back the trash can,

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one of them had been flipped over with the dome

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lid on it. So that's something you would actually have

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to pick it up, turn it over, place it down,

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balance it, and then walk away. It's not like the

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wind could have done that. If the wind was that

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strong that we just knocked it over, that was there

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was no There was no shoe marks on it from

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a bear or anything like that. None of our I

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mean we even checked with our neighbors, but nobody's like

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a practical joker like that.

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It was far enough away too.

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Yeah, it was just really weird that something like that

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had happened. I don't know. And it's on concrete, so

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I couldn't couldn't look for any prints or anything. So

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I mean, I wish I could have one that.

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Back in January, when he found the first set of

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footprints I had. You know, we had contacted the neighbor,

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some of the neighbors, and the one neighbor had told

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us that while her husband was hunting, he also found

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footprints just like we did, but he didn't take pictures

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of him, and he agreed that they were too big

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for a human and the gate in between steps was

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way too large. Then a few days after that, she

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contacted me with pictures from another neighbor way behind us,

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and he has a farm and he had footprints up

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to his barn.

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Area.

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It travels in this area. I think we have plenty

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of water source, we have definitely plenty of food source,

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and definitely area sport to hide, so it's the perfect area.

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I did take the footprints and I had them sent

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to a couple professionals in the field, and it was

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three different professionals, and they all separately came back with

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juvenile but juvenile bigfoot footprints were the cause of those prints.

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From there, we also contacted the BRFO Bigfoot Research Observatory,

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So they came out and they did a very lengthy

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investigation over months and they found some hair samples.

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He came out, We explained everything that was going on,

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he went back put a not a camera but like

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an audio recorder back there, and then we went and

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checked our back fence line where Lisa had seen the

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first time she had seen a creature out there, and

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he found a lot of hairs that he couldn't couldn't

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identify in in the in the the fence line. We

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actually took a couple gave him to him. He I

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don't know, I don't know if he ever analyzed them

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or whatever. But it wasn't deer, and it was higher

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up to where it's a bob wire fence. It's a

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three strand bob wire fence. So it's not a dog

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because it's just it's it's too high up. Not I

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don't think it was a deer, and we don't generally

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we don't have bears around here.

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So well, he took a couple of samples, I know,

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he said, one came back I believe the mountain lion,

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and one was too deteriorated. They couldn't tell what it was.

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It was unidentifiable, so they couldn't tell. And he found

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trails where they laid.

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Yeah, yeah, there was a lot of a lot of

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trails back there where they were going the second. The

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second time Lisa, I believe it was the second time

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she saw the creature. She was out back and she

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came in and I mean, it's scared or so much

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it made a cry, so I you know, I I

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grabbed my shotgun. I went, I went. I didn't go

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through my backyard. I went around the side gate and

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I went back there, and I mean I could smell

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that smell again, and I could hear something in. I mean,

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it couldn't have been more than ten fifteen feet away,

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but the brush is just so thick you can't see anything.

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And it was just one of those you could just

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I knew something was there and I could hear it moving,

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but and I could see the It wasn't a deer.

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It wasn't anything like that. I mean, it was just

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one of those you know, you get the hair on

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the back of your scalp standing up if it's a deer.

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I don't it's not going to bother me. But it

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was just one of those there. I was like, well,

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I think retreat's probably the better part of valor at

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this point. That was a really scary dog. Sorry, no, no,

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something else anyways, So that was like one of the

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parts that we had, we had really gotten that I

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had first started, and now I haven't. I haven't seen

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it for some strange reason. I'm the only person that

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has this.

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Everybody's seen it but him.

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Yeah, it's killing me when you say everyone has seen

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it by him. So how many people have had sightings

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on your property?

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Myself and I believe five or six others.

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Oh wow, Yeah, we brought him out chiming. What the

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spirits came out? That's another drunken cub as.

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They came out together. And uh. First, uh, the first

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time I saw the creature was back in March. I

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was sitting in the living room. It was like early

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in the morning, and I was playing with the puppy

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and I looked out and I noticed something really dark

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and it caught my attention so that I went up

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to the window and right straight back in the haller

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there at our neighbor's property is an old, abandoned building.

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It's kind of like a barn. I saw this tall,

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hairy figure. I could see him, well, see it from

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the waist up. It was dark brown, it was harry

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had a cone head, and I was just like totally shocked,

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and it just stood there and it took one step

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and it was completely out of sight. It was just gone.

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And that was the first time I saw it. The

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second time all once with that, I think it was April.

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First time was March. Second time was April. I was

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sitting on the back porch playing with the dogs and

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I looked to the haller to the left and I

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saw him completely standing there. I saw a complete profile

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of it. It was at least seven eight feet tall,

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dark brown in color. When it started to walk, its

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gate of his legs and its arms were just so

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wide and so amazing. It was thin. It wasn't like fatter,

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think it was like a baseball player body muscular but

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not fat. And it would take me four steps easily

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to get one step that that creature did. And it

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just calmly walked down towards the pond area on our

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neighbor's property, like and I was screaming at that time,

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because that's the time. It was like I can see

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it all the way. The other thing, I couldn't see

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where its feet except for when it was walking, and

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it was just amazing, and it was calm and peaceful,

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and it just walked off like nothing, totally ignored my

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screaming because I was so caught off guard, and I

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remember just being so overwhelmed that I started crying because

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it just it's just so much for your brain to

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take in, because this is something I didn't believe in.

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You know, it's something you know, it's fairy tales. It's

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like leprechauns and unicorns. Yeah, it's a good story, like

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Godzilla in the movies, but come on, it doesn't exist.

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So having to everything that we went through and taking

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it all in and realizing there's actually really a creature

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or creatures out there, and that was the second time.

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The third time was around the same area. I was

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out in the back with dogs and it was I

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believe some mark because it must have been eating berries

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because we have big berry patches back there, and it

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must have been sitting down to eat berries and it

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just popped up, stood there and walked away like it

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was nothing. And I'm just sitting there in total shock.

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Then we had Matt and Jacob from Drunken Cryptis. We

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were in contact with him about this situation and they

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wanted to do, you know, an investigation, so we allowed

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them and they came up and him and my husband

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and Jacob and and Matt went through the whole area

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and part of another person's property. They found footprints, so

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they took casts of them. That's what I believe. They

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found the knuckle print, which was really cool. Yeah you

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found that.

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Yeah, it's you could you could see where somebody had

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like it was on It was on the like a

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bax or the front side or backside of a tree

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stump where the knuckles had just indented. It wasn't like

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deer trail or anything like that. This wasn't on our property.

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It was one of our neighbors that let us go

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out there, so they did. They did some uh, they

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took some pictures of that. They got what do you

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call it plaster, a cast of it. So that was

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another part we during that investigation. And when they came

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out the second time, we went really deeper into our

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property than you know, than we normally do, and along

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the back fence line, which is right around the area

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that Lisa saw the creature. A couple of times, there

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was a not you don't want to call a trail,

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but you could tell where something had gone down into

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a I guess like a little holler area and where

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they were. There was an area where they was flattened

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out and you could and they were eating the berries because,

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like you said, we have berries all along our fence

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line back there. It got a little bit too thick

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where we couldn't go down, and there was there was

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another section just on the other side of the fence

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where I could go further. But it's not my property,

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and wasn't you know, I wasn't in charge of the expedition,

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so I had to listen and come back. Said yeah,

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they said no, So I mean, you could tell where

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the deer go, but then you could tell where there's

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something a little bit bigger. It's just not that, you know,

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I know what deer trails look like. We got them

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all the time. So the second time they came out,

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they came out with a lot more of night vision equipment,

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thermal stuff all that that night, we heard a lot

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of knocks, We heard a lot of a lot of growls,

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you know. We I mean, we went into our neighbor's

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property a lot more than we did because he's got

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a he's he's got like deer trails that go over

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there too. And will you tell them about what you

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guys saw that night because I.

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Was, well, he's tell about the bones.

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Oh yeah, oh yeah, I forgot about that. So we're

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going down to the it's like a it's not. It's

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a trail that leads to a deer stand. My neighbor

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is a deer stand, and up in on the branch

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of a tree where which was like way harder than

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I mean, I could barely reach it and I'm five

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nine and extended like that, somebody had placed the vertebrae

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of a small carcass or animal up there. Now it

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wasn't my neighbor because I checked with him and he's

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not going to do that. It's just it was one

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of those things where it's like, you know, you actually

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have to put that up there physically, it was I don't,

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I don't know what to say. That was just kind

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of creepy. We also found when we went back there,

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little hides or nests where you could tell they were

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building something. A couple of times, and you could find

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we found like some prints around there, but they were

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kind of degradated, and when we went near one, we

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could hear something out past where we were. It was

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like a growl, and we kind of backed off at

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that point we found where there was a lot of

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saplings that were like bent over, broken not by the wind,

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and they weren't dead. I mean you're probably talking two

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inch saplings, maybe two two and a half. It's not

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something that I can break on my own. That was

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that part of that investigation. Like I said, we covered

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a lot of ground and probably took us a couple three,

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four or five hours that night to do all that stuff.

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And then you tell them about what y'all saw.

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Yeah, well, some of the Matt and one of the

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other gentlemen, they well, they were out in the woods.

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They were being flanked by one of them, and Matt

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kept saying they were playing peek a boo with him

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and he could see the eye shine And they have

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one I don't remember it was a video or picture

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where one of the gentlemen was where they were talking

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and was looking out and to decide you could see

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the shape of one of them, So he has that.

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When a couple other ones said they had some kind

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of observation and contact with them, well, they were in

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the back. It was myself, Liz, Miss Liz, and Larry.

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We were in the front. He was Larry was running

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all the all the tech stuff, and Liz and I

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we were just chatting away, talking and we were sitting

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there and all of a sudden, this very big gray

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masks start coming towards us from it must have come

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out where you guys had just left. It started coming

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towards us, and I turned to Miss Liz and Larry said,

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do you see what I'm seeing? Because I wanted to

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confirm if they were seeing this big gray mask that

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I did, and they both saw it as well, and

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it was kind of weird. It started walking and it

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got to our big foot sign we have a big

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one in the yard, and it stopped and it just

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started like going like this way and back and forth,

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really weird. And Larry called them on the walkie talkie

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and I remember you and Jacob. Jacob came running up.

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And as soon as we heard their their I guess

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your keys and stuff and your gun shaking from them running,

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it was gone. It was just where did it go?

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It was gone? But all three of us saw it,

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and it was about eight foot tall easily. And that

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night they heard the hoops and the hollers, and I mean,

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there's a weird bird sound they make as well. I mean,

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it's very distinctive of sound that they're making because it's

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nothing that's normal to Arkansas. It's like a tropical bird.

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I can't even describe it.

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I was gonna, can you try to imitate it at all?

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It's just it's too weird.

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It's too weird. But it's funny because anyone who's heard

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it will stop dead in their tracks. It's like, that's

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not right, that's not normal, and it's like, well, yeah,

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that's that's them. I mean we have times, you know,

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when they're there because it gets dead silent. The frog stop,

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the crickets stop, the bird stop. There is no noise whatsoever.

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I mean, it is dead, dead, silent.

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Yeah, that night when we went out back there, when

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she saw that was in the summer. It was June

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or July. And in the summer out here, everything's going, crickets,

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oh yeah, chikatas, birds, everything's going. But there are, like

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I said, there was a few times when it's just nothing.

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It's just and all of a sudden, dead silent. So

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that to me, that's like a there's a predator out there.

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And we've had very very few mountain lion sightings out here,

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very few what we've had to do is install basically

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lighting along our fence line to keep, you know, keep

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them out of the backyard. So it's we have some

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along our south, our sidelin side fence. Over here, we've

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got some on the side of the house. We had

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the electric company come out and install like a giant

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stadium spotlight that points toward our house, not out to

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the field, because I don't want to like get them going.

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And we have like a giant work light that we

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normally turn on at night. It shines out into our yard,

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so that kind of keeps I guess, I guess you

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want to say it keeps them at bay. What happened

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actually last night was that I forgot to turn the

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light on and Lisa ended up seeing a big gray

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form out just on the other side of our fence

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where our dogs went. So I went out there this

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morning and I saw a couple of tracks.

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Had to put the lights up for our own protection

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because for a while they would come up and bang

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the house. That's really scary, and in the beginning I

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was I'm not gonna lie scared to death horror. I

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didn't know what to do. Reached out to every expert

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out there, anyone who knew anything about bigfoot. I went

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on these platforms everywhere asking questions, how do we protect ourself?

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What do we do? We started with a few lights.

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That was okay. We decided we were just going to

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protect the perimeter of our house where we mainly go

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and the holler we would lead to them. We figured,

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we give them the holler, that's their space, go for it.

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We're not going to bother you, but keep out of

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our private space. That's all we asked for in return,

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you know, to coexist.

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Right, we haven't seen it just started up again because

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it's January. Well we haven't. You know, this is a lot.

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This is about the time it started last year. They didn't.

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They didn't come around during November December because obviously it's

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deer seasons and we have we have a lot of

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Christmas lights up in the front, I mean like a bunch,

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so they probably didn't like that. But those are all

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down now and deer seasons over, so the deer are

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coming back to our propit. We're starting to feed him again.

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So the print this morning was it was fourteen fifteen

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inches long, so it's like it's in the same spot

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where it's actually gosh, I say, within five feet of

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the spot where I took the first print from last year.

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I mean right in the same area. So it's you know,

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we expect it to start kicking up because it's been

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a mile winter.

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They've been yelling a lot lately.

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Yeah, it's been real mild. We haven't had we've had

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a dusting of snow, but it's been in the fifties

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sixties for a couple of weeks now so, and the

461
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deer back, you know, so it's going to start kicking

462
00:25:38.359 --> 00:25:38.720
up again.

463
00:25:38.920 --> 00:25:41.400
And the thing is, we know there's more than one.

464
00:25:41.480 --> 00:25:44.160
There's got to be at least three that I know.

465
00:25:44.279 --> 00:25:48.000
I know there's two brown ones and there's the gray one.

466
00:25:48.359 --> 00:25:50.519
And sometimes when we're because we sit out in the

467
00:25:50.519 --> 00:25:53.039
porch all summer long, every day after his work, we

468
00:25:53.079 --> 00:25:54.880
go out there and we sit in the dog's play.

469
00:25:55.160 --> 00:25:59.240
It's our family time. And sometimes I'll go out during

470
00:25:59.240 --> 00:26:01.880
the day and sit out there with the dogs. And

471
00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:04.960
sometimes you can hear them and they're doing the yelling,

472
00:26:05.200 --> 00:26:08.240
but you'll hear one yell to the left, and then

473
00:26:08.319 --> 00:26:11.519
you'll hear one yell way from the right somewhere, and

474
00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:14.720
it gets closer and closer and closer. It's like they're

475
00:26:14.839 --> 00:26:17.920
yelling at each other to find each other in the area.

476
00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:21.599
And that happens a lot. And sometimes when I was

477
00:26:21.640 --> 00:26:25.079
on the porch, especially in the summer, they'll make a

478
00:26:25.119 --> 00:26:30.359
noise like a whistle, and they'll try to get my attention.

479
00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:34.680
And I'm not really good at whistling, and sometimes when

480
00:26:34.720 --> 00:26:37.880
I do get a whistle out, occasionally they'll whistle right back,

481
00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:41.599
which is kind of cool. They got a bit playful

482
00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:48.079
after the investigation, and I think what we learned to do.

483
00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:50.240
We put up all the lights around the house. I mean,

484
00:26:50.240 --> 00:26:52.319
we've got tons of lights. If the lights go out,

485
00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:55.000
they'll come up to the house, there's no doubt about it,

486
00:26:55.079 --> 00:26:57.839
like they did yesterday, even with the other lights. But

487
00:26:59.359 --> 00:27:03.279
we keep our windows and doors closed and curtains closed.

488
00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:06.519
We don't if they don't see in the house, you know,

489
00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:10.359
they don't get as curious. But in the summer, of course,

490
00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:12.720
want to leave a window open and get some air

491
00:27:13.000 --> 00:27:14.559
and a little bit of light. I can't take it.

492
00:27:14.599 --> 00:27:17.680
So in the bedroom when he's like doing work or

493
00:27:17.720 --> 00:27:20.039
watching his sports and stuff, I'll be in the bedroom

494
00:27:20.039 --> 00:27:22.799
and stuff like that. And I've had it on several

495
00:27:22.839 --> 00:27:27.440
occasions where they'll go from the fence and throw rocks

496
00:27:27.480 --> 00:27:30.200
at my window, just small pebbles to get my attention,

497
00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:35.160
especially after I turn off the TV, which so it's

498
00:27:35.240 --> 00:27:37.880
kind of like are they watching the TV when I

499
00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:40.480
have it on? Because so if I turn it off

500
00:27:40.519 --> 00:27:42.079
and go to bed, all of a sudden, you got

501
00:27:42.079 --> 00:27:44.880
these pebbles hit in the window. And the first time

502
00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:46.839
I told Ray he went the next day and look

503
00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:49.799
there were footprints right where on the other side of

504
00:27:49.880 --> 00:27:55.079
heads where the pebbles were coming from. And one time

505
00:27:55.680 --> 00:27:59.559
I remember the pebbles were thrown and I looked out

506
00:27:59.559 --> 00:28:01.799
the window and I saw the head of one of them.

507
00:28:01.880 --> 00:28:04.119
You can see that they have like a conish head.

508
00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:07.079
It's got that point and the fur you could see

509
00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:09.079
it in our feds is six foot high on that

510
00:28:09.160 --> 00:28:11.400
side and it's all wooden on that side, and you

511
00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:14.920
could still see the head. So that one was got

512
00:28:14.960 --> 00:28:17.960
to have been one of the juniors, probably about seven

513
00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:18.720
feet tall.

514
00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:22.319
Yeah, I mean, you know, we try to live in

515
00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:24.319
peace with them. You know, I'm not going to don't

516
00:28:24.359 --> 00:28:26.920
start one won't be none, but it has, you know,

517
00:28:27.000 --> 00:28:28.880
I mean, anywhere we go we have I.

518
00:28:28.880 --> 00:28:31.000
Mean I have to carry it, Harry, just for safety.

519
00:28:31.119 --> 00:28:33.279
Yes, so we go to my backwood workshop, got to

520
00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:34.960
carry one. If I go out to free the deer,

521
00:28:35.039 --> 00:28:37.160
got to carry one. I've gotten used to it.

522
00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:40.039
It's just they follow you to the workshop. Because we

523
00:28:40.119 --> 00:28:43.079
had from the house to the workshop. What's that distance about,

524
00:28:44.519 --> 00:28:44.960
I don't know.

525
00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:47.599
Thirty thirty yards.

526
00:28:47.359 --> 00:28:50.839
Thirty yards, okay about thirty yards. But we have the house,

527
00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:54.119
the fence from the house, then we have the woods,

528
00:28:54.319 --> 00:28:57.200
and you can be walking to the shed or to

529
00:28:57.240 --> 00:28:59.839
the workshop and you can hear them in the woods.

530
00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:03.440
You can fill the heavy footsteps, you can hear the

531
00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:08.039
twigs breaking, and you can pretty much hear them breathing,

532
00:29:08.119 --> 00:29:10.720
and you can tell they're just like walking side by

533
00:29:10.799 --> 00:29:13.119
side with you. But they're far enough in the woods

534
00:29:13.119 --> 00:29:16.200
where you can't see them, but you know they're there.

535
00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:20.319
Especially in the in the summertime. People just gets overgrown

536
00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:24.880
and nobody you know it's it's overgrown because nobody's doing

537
00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:26.319
nature just to go overall.

538
00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:30.559
Yeah, we believe and live and let live and give back.

539
00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:32.880
We look at it this way, if they leave us alone,

540
00:29:32.920 --> 00:29:36.799
we'll leave them alone. We've only let the Bigfoot Research

541
00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:40.319
Organization come out and then Matt and their crew and

542
00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:43.519
that's all we've allowed on the property because we want

543
00:29:43.519 --> 00:29:46.319
to keep them just sorry, we want to keep them

544
00:29:46.400 --> 00:29:50.559
as peaceful as possible, because we don't want to antagonize

545
00:29:50.599 --> 00:29:51.160
in any way.

546
00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:55.359
Yeah, and I think that's really smart, and I would

547
00:29:55.440 --> 00:30:01.119
say hopefully you continue to do that too, just especially

548
00:30:01.119 --> 00:30:03.400
in the type of situation you're at, as you said,

549
00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:08.680
where it's very like it seems to be controlled, but

550
00:30:08.839 --> 00:30:11.720
you get the wrong person in there and like, all right,

551
00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:14.799
let's rive it up and then okay, see you later.

552
00:30:14.839 --> 00:30:16.599
And you don't want that. You don't want that.

553
00:30:17.559 --> 00:30:20.839
We've had a lot of people in our town and

554
00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:26.160
the town next door with also similar issue, similar sightings.

555
00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:30.240
There was a family they had built a house on

556
00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:34.240
a road about a mile away from us, and the

557
00:30:34.359 --> 00:30:38.319
sun was looking out at their back creek and he

558
00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:42.559
noticed a big dark figure in the creek and all

559
00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:45.200
of a sudden it stood up. He described exactly what

560
00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:49.359
I saw, same same size, same shape, same color, you know,

561
00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:52.920
and that boy was of course taken totally off guard.

562
00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:57.799
We have the farmer. We have another person. He has

563
00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:01.039
a big lot where he's near creek where they've had

564
00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:03.960
experience with big with big rocks being thrown at them

565
00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:07.759
as the creatures didn't want them at the creek. Some

566
00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:10.559
people have the big, big hides on their property. I

567
00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:14.319
mean they seem to frequent. We must be this corridor

568
00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:18.160
for them that they frequent through. I mean, there's a

569
00:31:18.200 --> 00:31:20.839
person that lives behind us, and I guess thirty years

570
00:31:20.839 --> 00:31:24.799
ago she had an experience with them, and there's just

571
00:31:25.599 --> 00:31:28.920
so many people that have had the same experience. So

572
00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:32.039
from what I can gather from where the people are,

573
00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:37.400
they're coming from behind us, passing through our yard, going

574
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:44.759
through several pastures and farms and woodlands, so they're they're

575
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:47.279
traveling quite a bit, but it seems to be a

576
00:31:47.359 --> 00:31:48.680
normal path for them.

577
00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:51.000
Yeah, we have a we have a water source back

578
00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:54.000
on the other side of our property. It's not on ours.

579
00:31:54.559 --> 00:31:56.799
So they have a water source, they have food supply,

580
00:31:57.079 --> 00:31:58.720
deer berry berries.

581
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:00.720
Place is to hide.

582
00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:05.200
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's real thick back there. There's

583
00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:07.440
part of my property I can't even get to ye

584
00:32:08.799 --> 00:32:12.319
and super tall. Yeah.

585
00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:15.480
I mean, you you really have made if you think

586
00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:18.599
about it, you've made an incredible sanctuary for them, especially

587
00:32:18.599 --> 00:32:21.960
if they're so prevalent in the area and now there's

588
00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:25.559
this large area where you guys own where there's tons

589
00:32:25.599 --> 00:32:28.960
of deer berries, water source, and they don't have to

590
00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:32.960
worry about people messing with them. It's just it is

591
00:32:33.039 --> 00:32:35.559
really a perfect scenario for that.

592
00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:35.839
Now.

593
00:32:35.839 --> 00:32:39.079
It makes it definitely interesting for you living on it.

594
00:32:39.160 --> 00:32:39.680
For sure.

595
00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:42.640
We're the only ones that don't hunt.

596
00:32:44.839 --> 00:32:45.680
Yep, that's huge.

597
00:32:46.079 --> 00:32:48.160
Everybody else except for us.

598
00:32:49.000 --> 00:32:52.680
What is the weirdest thing that's happened on your property

599
00:32:52.960 --> 00:33:00.160
that you don't think is Bigfoot related?

600
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:02.240
That silly fairy ring thing.

601
00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:07.039
Oh, the ferry ring? Yeah, okay, they found that the

602
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:10.319
same day of the investigation. It was huge.

603
00:33:10.759 --> 00:33:14.160
Yeah, we were We walked over to our This was

604
00:33:14.920 --> 00:33:18.960
right around dusk, so it wasn't dark when we left,

605
00:33:20.119 --> 00:33:22.000
so you probably in the summertime, you got to put

606
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:25.880
it around maybe eight eight thirty eight. Maybe we went out,

607
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:29.720
did the did the we have to walk by my workshop,

608
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:33.440
and we went out and did the investigation down down

609
00:33:33.640 --> 00:33:37.920
the trailhead and came back after dark and we're shining

610
00:33:38.359 --> 00:33:40.720
just shine a light looking for anything, and there was

611
00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:43.559
a ferry ring just like it had been there the

612
00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:46.240
entire time. And I know it wasn't there when I

613
00:33:46.440 --> 00:33:48.480
know it wasn't when I first walked by it just

614
00:33:48.640 --> 00:33:51.079
it couldn't have been. You know, I would had never.

615
00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:51.920
Heard of them before.

616
00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:55.240
Yeah, I had no idea what it was. It's just

617
00:33:55.880 --> 00:34:02.480
a circle in the grass. Yea. He was probably six

618
00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:05.359
seven foot round. Maybe it was like a perfect circle.

619
00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:09.599
It's not like I had a barrel there or a

620
00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:12.719
giant there that I moved. I don't have anything like that.

621
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:15.400
And it was just a perfect circle right in the

622
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:18.000
grassy area, right next to uh, right next to my

623
00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:20.039
it was like in between a workshop and a tree.

624
00:34:20.519 --> 00:34:23.400
It's just weird. It was there the next day and

625
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:25.159
then it was gone the day after, like it had

626
00:34:25.159 --> 00:34:28.159
never been there. I mean, that's the weirdest non big

627
00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:28.559
foot thing.

628
00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:31.480
I mean, because I mean Matt had his theories, but

629
00:34:32.119 --> 00:34:35.719
I didn't understand them, and it's like whatever, you know.

630
00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:38.559
It was just I know what, I know how they grow.

631
00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:41.880
I read all about that, but it just doesn't pop

632
00:34:41.960 --> 00:34:44.920
up out of nowhere and then disappear. I mean that

633
00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:47.360
was really weird. Yeah, that was kind of weird.

634
00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:52.760
Has anything out of the ordinary happened inside the house

635
00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:56.440
or the workshop during this time or is it all outside?

636
00:34:57.719 --> 00:34:58.880
I don't think anything's happening.

637
00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:01.280
Yeah, yeah, cool.

638
00:35:02.599 --> 00:35:03.440
Have any.

639
00:35:05.039 --> 00:35:10.519
Out of place objects or things been found around the

640
00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:13.239
house or the workshop outside?

641
00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:15.880
Things have been moved, I mean, the trash cans were removed.

642
00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:20.519
Some of the ornaments in the we have in the yard.

643
00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:23.039
Yard ornaments were moved. Some were even knocked down.

644
00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:25.639
Remember, yeah, the chimes. They don't like. They don't like

645
00:35:25.679 --> 00:35:28.559
the chimes I put these.

646
00:35:28.119 --> 00:35:29.360
Yeah, you don't like it.

647
00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:31.840
I had a big giant wood one that I was

648
00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:33.920
I decided not to put out back because I just

649
00:35:33.920 --> 00:35:36.360
didn't want them. But there we have. I think we

650
00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:38.800
had like four or five along the fence line and

651
00:35:39.000 --> 00:35:40.920
I got them. I got them in there good. I mean,

652
00:35:40.960 --> 00:35:43.639
like the wind's not pulling them down way up, yeah,

653
00:35:43.639 --> 00:35:46.079
and way up. And I don't know, I've been out

654
00:35:46.079 --> 00:35:47.639
there a couple of times. They've just been pulled down.

655
00:35:49.400 --> 00:35:53.880
They don't like them because we tried cameras, but they'll

656
00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:56.920
avoid them, you know, they know to go around them.

657
00:35:57.000 --> 00:36:00.480
They're they're really I mean. It was funny because we

658
00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:04.159
put up a barrier and we noticed right where we

659
00:36:04.239 --> 00:36:08.480
had first installed just motion lights. Behind the motion lights,

660
00:36:08.599 --> 00:36:13.519
all the tree limbs were broken behind every of our

661
00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:17.880
emotion lights and they were literally broken. So it looks

662
00:36:17.960 --> 00:36:20.360
it was like they were making a boundary where they knew, Okay,

663
00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:22.400
if we go here, we're going to turn on those

664
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:25.960
motion lights. We can't go past this area.

665
00:36:26.119 --> 00:36:28.119
Yeah.

666
00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:34.119
I've actually heard that from at least one or two

667
00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:37.480
other situations over the last few years, and that is

668
00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:40.519
very smart when they do that. I've also heard a

669
00:36:40.519 --> 00:36:44.639
thing where if you've got like lights pointed out near

670
00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:47.960
your house, sometimes they'll like they'll they'll either break the

671
00:36:48.039 --> 00:36:51.360
light bulb or they'll they'll push the light up so

672
00:36:51.400 --> 00:36:52.679
that it's out of the way.

673
00:36:52.880 --> 00:36:55.760
It was weird because and I still think we had

674
00:36:55.920 --> 00:37:00.800
a big light on our back where workshop, and it

675
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:04.920
worked for years, and when this activity started and it

676
00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:07.280
got picked up, all of a sudden, it just doesn't

677
00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:09.519
work anymore. We try to put a new ball, bin

678
00:37:09.880 --> 00:37:14.239
just absolutely will not work. It just absolutely just it's gone.

679
00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:18.360
It's done, which is weird because you know, I don't

680
00:37:18.400 --> 00:37:21.800
know if that's coincidence or whatever, but it just seems

681
00:37:21.800 --> 00:37:24.880
a little ironic. So he had to put lights by

682
00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:28.119
hand underneath so we could light up the area, because

683
00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:31.039
if the area isn't lit, they're going to come to

684
00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:34.679
it because then there's no boundary. Like last night. We

685
00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:37.320
had the lights around, but we forgot the back porch,

686
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:40.639
and that's a very very bright light, and that one

687
00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:45.239
does kind of go out towards the haller the rest

688
00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:47.920
shoot in, and that's the only one that shoots out,

689
00:37:48.199 --> 00:37:51.039
and the area that would have shot out at is

690
00:37:51.079 --> 00:37:54.480
where they were last night. Because we used to have

691
00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:57.079
the lights on a timer, but the timer broke and

692
00:37:57.119 --> 00:37:59.320
we try to replace it and for some reason it's

693
00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:01.719
not working, so we have to remember to turn it on.

694
00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:05.119
And we're human. He thought I turned it on. I

695
00:38:05.159 --> 00:38:08.400
thought he turned it on. You know, we didn't, and

696
00:38:08.679 --> 00:38:13.719
of course something happens. Because I think they're very intelligent creatures.

697
00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:18.719
I think they're very curious creatures. I don't think they

698
00:38:18.760 --> 00:38:21.679
mean any harm because they've never hurt our dogs now

699
00:38:21.719 --> 00:38:26.119
the only time they did. I don't know if you

700
00:38:26.159 --> 00:38:29.679
want to say a harm a dog, but we're unkind

701
00:38:29.719 --> 00:38:31.679
to a dog. We have neighbors and they have two

702
00:38:31.719 --> 00:38:35.719
dogs and they run around, they hunt. They're pound dogs,

703
00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:37.599
and of course they love deer and we have tons

704
00:38:37.599 --> 00:38:40.000
of deer in a holler. So they come over and

705
00:38:40.039 --> 00:38:43.840
they're annoying. Not to be rude, they're barking, they're barking

706
00:38:43.920 --> 00:38:47.639
and barking. And one day I was I think I

707
00:38:47.719 --> 00:38:49.840
was just standing out back with the dogs and they

708
00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:52.239
were barking at Daisy and Rose, and all of a sudden,

709
00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:56.360
the dog, Daisy, she's a little chubby thing, she came

710
00:38:56.800 --> 00:39:00.800
literally like something had catapulded her out of the She

711
00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:03.440
was thrown like five feet in the air and she

712
00:39:03.519 --> 00:39:08.079
went at least eight feet in distance, and she luckily

713
00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:10.559
landed on her legs and she was a little bit

714
00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:12.639
like what the heck, and then she ran off and

715
00:39:12.679 --> 00:39:16.000
she didn't come back for months. I personally think the

716
00:39:16.039 --> 00:39:18.039
thing for her out because it was annoyed at her

717
00:39:18.079 --> 00:39:22.119
because she just wouldn't stop, and they are annoying, but

718
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:24.679
it was just I just saw her like fly in

719
00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:29.280
the air, which dogs don't fly in the air. And

720
00:39:29.320 --> 00:39:32.280
there's no way that dog could have ever jumped that

721
00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:35.920
high or that distance on its own. There's just absolutely

722
00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:36.360
no way.

723
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:38.119
That's a lucky dog.

724
00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:42.760
Yeah, but our dogs dog sometimes if there we used

725
00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:45.719
to have more dogs, but recently we lost three. But

726
00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:50.719
at one point we had nine dogs. And sometimes they'll

727
00:39:50.679 --> 00:39:53.440
go out there and bark and we'll know there's something there.

728
00:39:53.639 --> 00:39:55.760
But sometimes they'll go out there and bark and then

729
00:39:55.800 --> 00:39:59.480
get dead still and not move, and they'll rush back

730
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:01.800
to the poor and they'll hide on the porch and

731
00:40:01.880 --> 00:40:04.039
they'll bang and bang on the door till we let

732
00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:06.320
him in. I mean, it's like you let us in now,

733
00:40:06.519 --> 00:40:09.119
god forbid, or we're going to break through the glass.

734
00:40:09.519 --> 00:40:13.039
So the dogs are always a telltale sign when they're around.

735
00:40:13.400 --> 00:40:16.639
Yeah, especially in the summertime and the dead silence.

736
00:40:18.519 --> 00:40:22.920
Oh my goodness. Yeah, there's so much going on. So

737
00:40:23.039 --> 00:40:26.199
you have, you have photo evidence of tracks and the

738
00:40:26.280 --> 00:40:31.800
track casting from Matt and Jacob. It sounds like has

739
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:37.400
there been anything else captured, such as audio recordings or

740
00:40:38.039 --> 00:40:38.960
anything like that.

741
00:40:39.719 --> 00:40:41.599
The one gentleman, the first gentleman that came out, he

742
00:40:41.639 --> 00:40:47.880
took about two hundred hours of audio, but he hasn't

743
00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:49.840
gotten back to us yet. He said, he's got to

744
00:40:49.840 --> 00:40:52.559
filter a lot of it out, which I understand. But yes,

745
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:55.920
it did a while. I mean, yes, he said.

746
00:40:55.920 --> 00:40:58.239
The first he said, when he first started listening to

747
00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:00.679
some of the tape, the first thing he heard was

748
00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:03.519
where the camera was something really heavy and he said,

749
00:41:03.599 --> 00:41:05.039
super heavy was walking by.

750
00:41:05.719 --> 00:41:08.280
That wasn't Whenever I would go out there. I would

751
00:41:08.519 --> 00:41:09.960
just he said, you know, if you're gonna go out

752
00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:11.760
there and let the camera know, so anytime I go

753
00:41:11.800 --> 00:41:14.039
out there, say hey, I'm coming by, So that way

754
00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:15.960
he would know if he heard something that was me.

755
00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:22.239
I think that. I mean there, I think Matt, they

756
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:24.679
got something on there. I think he told you a

757
00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:26.039
couple months ago there.

758
00:41:26.079 --> 00:41:27.280
I can't remember what he got.

759
00:41:27.639 --> 00:41:32.239
They got some image off of the infrared that they

760
00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:36.480
couldn't identify. I don't I haven't seen him since then,

761
00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:37.079
so I don't know.

762
00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:38.880
Okay, gotcha.

763
00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:40.760
And then they had the one picture where the one

764
00:41:40.760 --> 00:41:43.199
guy was looking or video and off to the side

765
00:41:43.239 --> 00:41:45.559
you could see the dark shape I know. And then

766
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:47.559
there was supposed to be something else, but I don't

767
00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:48.480
know what it was.

768
00:41:48.960 --> 00:41:50.679
Yeah, they're supposed to come back out in the spring.

769
00:41:50.719 --> 00:41:57.719
But yeah, Wow, do you feel that you have ever been,

770
00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:08.760
let's see, physically affected because of their presence in any way?

771
00:42:11.000 --> 00:42:18.239
I mean, in the beginning, it was overwhelming and undescribable

772
00:42:18.320 --> 00:42:21.519
because you have so much fear and you don't understand,

773
00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:24.400
and just to try to reach out to talk to

774
00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:28.679
people is very hard to do. And we got people

775
00:42:28.719 --> 00:42:31.519
make fun of us, you know, because if you don't believe,

776
00:42:31.639 --> 00:42:35.559
you're just gonna and look, we weren't believers before, or

777
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:39.039
you were, Okay, well I wasn't, but you know, but

778
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:42.800
until it happens to you, it's easy for people to

779
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:46.480
judge and to find help for something like that is

780
00:42:46.679 --> 00:42:49.800
hard because there's not many people out there, and a

781
00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:52.280
lot of people will have a one time experience and

782
00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:55.480
it's over and done. We're living with it, you know,

783
00:42:55.840 --> 00:42:59.079
pretty much on a daily basis. It's we never now.

784
00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:00.840
We can't tell you they're gonna be here tomorrow at

785
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:04.079
six pm or you know, it happens. I mean sometimes

786
00:43:04.119 --> 00:43:06.199
it's a couple of weeks. Sometimes it's day after day

787
00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:09.320
after day after day. I mean, it just depends. They

788
00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:12.039
do what they want when they want, and I think

789
00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:15.400
they know that on our property, we're going to leave

790
00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:17.840
them alone. We're going to leave them safe. If they

791
00:43:17.880 --> 00:43:20.519
stay in the one area, we have no problems. Do

792
00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:23.079
whatever you want. As long as you don't cross that

793
00:43:23.239 --> 00:43:27.360
light line that we have at night, we have no problem.

794
00:43:27.599 --> 00:43:30.480
Now you cross that light line, then we have a

795
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:34.559
problem because then you're on our personal state space. And

796
00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:38.000
then that's saying, hey, you know, we know where we're

797
00:43:38.039 --> 00:43:38.960
not supposed to be.

798
00:43:39.599 --> 00:43:42.400
The closest thing I can. And I've heard them scream

799
00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:47.679
a few times, not like she has, but the closest

800
00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:50.119
thing I guess I can that I've ever heard to

801
00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:55.719
it is. And I'm just referencing because what I know.

802
00:43:56.639 --> 00:43:58.400
Have you ever seen I'm sure you've seen the movie

803
00:43:58.519 --> 00:44:01.440
Legend of Boggie Creek. Okay, so in like the one

804
00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:04.800
of the beginning scenes where he's running through the through

805
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:09.079
the outdoors and he hears it that scream, that's what

806
00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:11.639
it sounds like, and it was and that you know,

807
00:44:11.679 --> 00:44:14.760
that's far Arkansas. I mean, fox is a chunk away,

808
00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:17.559
but it's sort of like that sound that that's I'm

809
00:44:17.599 --> 00:44:20.320
not saying it's exactly that, but that's what it reminded

810
00:44:20.360 --> 00:44:22.079
me of because I know that I've seen the movie

811
00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:24.000
one hundred times and it's just like, okay, that sort

812
00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:27.159
of sounds like it. You just have to adjust your

813
00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:28.920
way of life, that's all to me.

814
00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:31.840
It sounds like a Godzilla sound. It's so deep and

815
00:44:31.960 --> 00:44:36.400
so loud and so long. I mean, a man can't

816
00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:39.719
scream that loud. We know it's not we know it's

817
00:44:39.760 --> 00:44:41.920
not a coyote. We know it's not a bear. We

818
00:44:42.039 --> 00:44:44.480
know it's not a wild hog. I mean, I've gone

819
00:44:44.480 --> 00:44:46.840
through every kind of creature and I've listened to every creature.

820
00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:49.599
There is an existence that we can find and nothing

821
00:44:49.679 --> 00:44:51.119
matches up to it. Nothing.

822
00:44:55.280 --> 00:45:00.119
To ask a question in a different way, has anything

823
00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:04.679
happened on the property, either outside the house or inside

824
00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:10.239
the house that most people would consider to be more

825
00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:15.840
related to the paranormal, anything like lights or voices that like,

826
00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:18.599
all of a sudden, I heard raised voice that.

827
00:45:18.920 --> 00:45:22.159
That that that conversation is a whole other.

828
00:45:23.599 --> 00:45:24.320
Figured it was.

829
00:45:24.760 --> 00:45:26.039
You don't want to get on that count.

830
00:45:26.360 --> 00:45:28.440
You'll be here for two hours with her, Okay, So

831
00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:29.639
there is stuff going on.

832
00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:35.079
Yeah, Look, paranormal has been in my life, my entire life.

833
00:45:35.280 --> 00:45:38.239
I've been able to hear and see ghosts and that's

834
00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:42.639
just been my life. For thirty years, I was a

835
00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:47.119
demonologist and I went all over the place helping people

836
00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:51.280
take care of their issues demonic or otherwise, you know.

837
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:58.039
But I retired and after strokes, you know, my brain

838
00:45:58.119 --> 00:46:02.199
doesn't function like it used too. But yeah, I still

839
00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:05.280
hear them and I still see them, but that's just

840
00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:09.800
for me, my normal life, So I keep them separated.

841
00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:12.280
You'll wake up in the middle of the night and

842
00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:17.000
you'll hear either like old like twenties thirties music, or

843
00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:20.519
like a ballgame. Yeah, like a ballgame. And the harder

844
00:46:20.559 --> 00:46:23.079
you try to listen to it, the further away further

845
00:46:23.159 --> 00:46:26.400
it gets away, and then it'll come back, and then

846
00:46:26.840 --> 00:46:29.800
you know, it's like old school recording. It's just it's

847
00:46:29.840 --> 00:46:33.239
not it's not on TV. It's just every now and

848
00:46:33.239 --> 00:46:34.760
then you'll hear that in the middle of the night

849
00:46:34.800 --> 00:46:36.840
and you'll be like, it's like if you had an

850
00:46:36.840 --> 00:46:39.079
old transistor radio back in the seventies and they were

851
00:46:39.079 --> 00:46:41.480
playing stuff on it. We hear that.

852
00:46:41.840 --> 00:46:43.920
And chatter. You can hear it. You can hear talking,

853
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:45.840
but you can't make out what they're saying.

854
00:46:46.039 --> 00:46:46.679
You can hear the.

855
00:46:46.679 --> 00:46:47.599
Chatter all the time.

856
00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:53.760
But that's really interesting, so kind of like, is it

857
00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:56.199
like mumbling or when you say chatter? Have you heard

858
00:46:56.199 --> 00:46:58.239
the Sierra sounds? Is it like that or is it

859
00:46:58.280 --> 00:46:59.239
just hard to describe?

860
00:47:00.440 --> 00:47:04.480
Well, you hear the you got ghost chattering sometimes in

861
00:47:04.519 --> 00:47:08.000
the house, but outside you've got them chattering back and forth.

862
00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:11.840
I did have one experience which really freaked me out,

863
00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:15.119
and I even asked neighbor for kids. I was out,

864
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:18.440
I think in the front yard, just sitting there watching

865
00:47:18.480 --> 00:47:21.559
the squirrels, and I heard children playing, but it was

866
00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:25.480
it was a weird sound of children playing. It just

867
00:47:27.239 --> 00:47:29.679
it was really off and it didn't make sense because

868
00:47:30.119 --> 00:47:32.840
right now there's no children around, and it just really

869
00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:34.880
bothered me. And it was right there and it's like,

870
00:47:35.079 --> 00:47:38.320
there's no children around. So I remember asking my neighbor.

871
00:47:38.480 --> 00:47:41.320
I emailed her. He said, Hey, was your son out

872
00:47:41.360 --> 00:47:44.400
playing with a little girl? You know, yesterday at such

873
00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:46.639
and such a time. Oh no, no, not at all.

874
00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:49.800
He wasn't out playing. And there's still a distance away,

875
00:47:50.280 --> 00:47:53.280
and it's like, well, there's no other kids around. Where

876
00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:57.599
did this odd children playing sound come from? And it

877
00:47:57.639 --> 00:48:03.679
was like the girl's laugh was just I can't describe it.

878
00:48:03.679 --> 00:48:08.840
It was just so off and so strange. It just it.

879
00:48:08.840 --> 00:48:12.280
It was bizarre and it made it just made the

880
00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:13.920
hair on the back of your head stand up. And

881
00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:17.840
to this day, I don't know if it was the

882
00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:20.840
creature's doing it or what I mean, there were no

883
00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:24.840
kids around. Neighbors confirmed their kids weren't around. It was

884
00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:28.920
just myself who was doing that. It sounds two kids

885
00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:33.239
were playing and laughing. And it just there's no one

886
00:48:33.280 --> 00:48:36.400
there to prove there's no one. There was no one there.

887
00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:43.000
Okay, so yeah, I mean after knowing the whole, uh

888
00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:47.400
your background like that, it definitely it puts a whole

889
00:48:47.400 --> 00:48:49.800
different spin on it. But it doesn't make a lot

890
00:48:49.840 --> 00:48:53.880
of sense because for so long you were bringing stuff.

891
00:48:55.000 --> 00:48:57.719
You know, yeah, you're helping, but you're bringing stuff in.

892
00:48:57.800 --> 00:48:59.960
And it's like, even though we retire, and I think

893
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:01.760
I'm going to have to deal with this too in

894
00:49:01.800 --> 00:49:04.599
about twenty years or whatever, like I'm going to retire,

895
00:49:04.679 --> 00:49:05.639
but it's not just.

896
00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:06.239
Going to go away.

897
00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:11.480
It doesn't just going to It doesn't. It doesn't. I mean, look,

898
00:49:11.519 --> 00:49:15.239
I have some attachments that I keep with me that

899
00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:18.639
I brought with me, but they're my normal attachments. But

900
00:49:20.519 --> 00:49:24.760
you're just a vessel. They attract regardless even if you retire,

901
00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:28.000
it doesn't stop them from coming. They come. But it

902
00:49:28.079 --> 00:49:31.920
seems I have a habit of attracting a lot of.

903
00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:37.400
Things, right, Yeah, I totally get that. Do you feel

904
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:41.119
like there's ever been any communication between either of you

905
00:49:41.480 --> 00:49:45.599
and the bigfoot that are in the woods, And that

906
00:49:45.639 --> 00:49:47.039
can be a very broad question.

907
00:49:47.760 --> 00:49:51.440
You know, I talk to them occasionally, you know, because

908
00:49:51.480 --> 00:49:53.679
we were told. I was told to talk to them

909
00:49:53.719 --> 00:49:55.519
and let them them hey, look, this is our space,

910
00:49:55.559 --> 00:49:58.760
this is your space. And the whistling back and forth,

911
00:49:58.840 --> 00:50:02.239
I really think that's can communication. I think the pebbles

912
00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:06.400
throwing at my window when they know I'm there is communication.

913
00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:10.599
When Ray was out of town, they knew he wasn't home,

914
00:50:11.480 --> 00:50:16.360
they felt real comfortable being really loud and really obnoxious

915
00:50:17.000 --> 00:50:19.559
because they knew it was just me and Ray wasn't there.

916
00:50:19.679 --> 00:50:23.519
And I don't carry a gun. I'm not intimidating in

917
00:50:23.559 --> 00:50:27.280
any way. I'm just a little old lady, and they

918
00:50:27.320 --> 00:50:30.880
know that I'm a no threat to them whatsoever. I

919
00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:35.000
mean absolutely none. Where Ray. He's physically fit, he's a male,

920
00:50:35.159 --> 00:50:37.719
he can carry a gun. He has more of a

921
00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:42.559
defense against them. I think they're playing with Ray because

922
00:50:42.920 --> 00:50:44.800
he's one of the only people in the property that

923
00:50:44.920 --> 00:50:48.519
haven't seen them, and I really think they're messing with him.

924
00:50:49.000 --> 00:50:52.639
They get where he's almost but he does it. It's

925
00:50:52.719 --> 00:50:55.280
kind of like a game with him. I swear it's

926
00:50:55.280 --> 00:50:57.320
like a game of peekin' boo, come and get us,

927
00:50:57.920 --> 00:51:01.079
because I know after they did the second second investigation,

928
00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:05.119
they start kind of like trying to pull you out

929
00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:07.639
of the house to go into the woods. They were

930
00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:10.360
trying to get him out there. They kept coming up

931
00:51:10.440 --> 00:51:13.559
to the fence and banging and hitting it and stuff

932
00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:16.280
like that, and it was like they were enticing him

933
00:51:16.280 --> 00:51:18.400
to come outside and go in the woods and look

934
00:51:18.440 --> 00:51:22.159
for him. I think they enjoyed that kind of cat

935
00:51:22.159 --> 00:51:24.800
and mouse thing when the investigation was going on, with

936
00:51:24.840 --> 00:51:30.159
all those men in the woods. I mean, that's just

937
00:51:30.519 --> 00:51:33.719
an opinion, yeah, but it does.

938
00:51:33.920 --> 00:51:38.239
It does make sense though, for sure. Have you had

939
00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:43.400
any Have you ever approached your local law enforcement regarding

940
00:51:43.440 --> 00:51:46.440
this or no.

941
00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:48.039
No, because it's not a police matter.

942
00:51:51.320 --> 00:51:53.360
Somebody trespassing, no waste our time.

943
00:51:53.480 --> 00:51:57.519
We went to the Bigfoot Research Organization. We tried the

944
00:51:57.559 --> 00:52:04.760
other one. I can't remember the name. Oh no, that's yeah,

945
00:52:05.079 --> 00:52:09.079
the area. Yeah, that's what it's called. Sorry, that's the

946
00:52:09.159 --> 00:52:11.199
name of them. It was. It was a b r

947
00:52:11.360 --> 00:52:13.440
F O that didn't come out. It was no whak

948
00:52:13.519 --> 00:52:16.679
that did come out because they just never answered us

949
00:52:17.159 --> 00:52:19.679
when we called the b RFO. They they're the ones

950
00:52:19.719 --> 00:52:23.000
that never replied or anything. So it was no whack.

951
00:52:23.079 --> 00:52:27.400
I'm sorry. They're the one North American what a conservatory.

952
00:52:27.159 --> 00:52:31.559
Gotcha, okay that I had a sorry, I get it,

953
00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:35.719
so B F R O didn't didn't show and n A

954
00:52:35.920 --> 00:52:36.559
W A C.

955
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:40.280
Where I'm so sorry, and they they actually put it

956
00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:43.000
on their website as one of they deemed one of

957
00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:45.679
their sites. So it's it's listed in there under Arkansas.

958
00:52:47.880 --> 00:52:54.880
That's awesome, Wow, wild wild stuff. My goodness. You probably

959
00:52:54.880 --> 00:52:58.239
will have to write a second book. I'm guessing the.

960
00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:01.639
First book is only a journal of what we were

961
00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:05.440
actually going through and how we dealt with it and

962
00:53:05.960 --> 00:53:07.960
just the stuff that was going on is you know,

963
00:53:08.159 --> 00:53:10.440
it was just these are the facts, this is what happened.

964
00:53:10.840 --> 00:53:13.280
You know, make your own decision, you know. But I

965
00:53:13.360 --> 00:53:16.840
wanted it because people kept asking questions, and they a

966
00:53:16.840 --> 00:53:18.519
lot of people, well what do you do? How do

967
00:53:18.559 --> 00:53:20.360
you take care of it? How do you protect yourself?

968
00:53:20.760 --> 00:53:23.400
So I tried to explain them how the stages are,

969
00:53:23.519 --> 00:53:27.280
what we did to protect ourselves, what we went through. Originally,

970
00:53:27.559 --> 00:53:31.199
you know, I tried to I know, someone's going to

971
00:53:31.239 --> 00:53:33.960
be in our shoes someday, so I wanted them to say, Okay,

972
00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:36.679
this is what we went through. I'm sure these are

973
00:53:36.800 --> 00:53:39.519
pretty similar to what they're going through. And maybe it

974
00:53:39.559 --> 00:53:42.239
will help them and give them some guidance on Okay,

975
00:53:42.280 --> 00:53:44.280
this is what I need to do to protect myself.

976
00:53:44.639 --> 00:53:48.719
I'm not alone, I'm not crazy, you know it just

977
00:53:49.400 --> 00:53:52.239
I just wanted to just give a little help out

978
00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:54.079
there because there's so many people that have the same

979
00:53:54.159 --> 00:53:56.599
questions that I did, and there's nowhere to go to

980
00:53:56.679 --> 00:53:57.480
really find it.

981
00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:02.199
Yeah, I definitely know what you're talking about. I man,

982
00:54:02.199 --> 00:54:04.719
this is such a unique situation. I think this is

983
00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:08.920
probably going to be one of the ones that people,

984
00:54:08.960 --> 00:54:12.400
you know, it always seems like we talk about situations

985
00:54:12.400 --> 00:54:15.199
that happened about twenty thirty years ago, and I think

986
00:54:15.360 --> 00:54:17.199
in the future this is going to be one of

987
00:54:17.239 --> 00:54:20.280
those that is going to be talked about and we

988
00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:23.519
have no idea what's going to happen tomorrow on this

989
00:54:23.639 --> 00:54:26.159
property or the day after. I mean, just the stuff

990
00:54:26.199 --> 00:54:30.079
that's already happened is wild. You're handling it the right way.

991
00:54:30.119 --> 00:54:32.360
I think I get upset when he puts down his

992
00:54:32.400 --> 00:54:36.679
guard that because it's like you just don't know, you know.

993
00:54:36.760 --> 00:54:38.280
I always tell him, every time you go out, take

994
00:54:38.280 --> 00:54:40.079
a gun, and there's times he doesn't take a gun.

995
00:54:40.159 --> 00:54:42.159
Then he wonders why I'm cranky and mad at and

996
00:54:42.159 --> 00:54:45.639
I was like, well, you just never know. But we've

997
00:54:45.679 --> 00:54:49.000
gotten to the point where I guess we're kind of

998
00:54:49.119 --> 00:54:52.119
comfortable knowing they're here. But it's been it's been two

999
00:54:52.239 --> 00:54:55.639
years now. This didn't happen overnight. I mean it was

1000
00:54:55.800 --> 00:55:00.599
fear for the longest time, and anguish and not sleeping

1001
00:55:00.760 --> 00:55:03.920
and not eating because of the worry. Are they going

1002
00:55:03.920 --> 00:55:05.760
to attack our house? Are they going to attack us?

1003
00:55:05.800 --> 00:55:07.480
What are they going to do? There were so many

1004
00:55:07.599 --> 00:55:13.559
unanswered questions and not many people could help, so getting

1005
00:55:13.639 --> 00:55:18.280
answers is very, very difficult. So I started reaching out

1006
00:55:18.320 --> 00:55:23.079
to you know, sites and stuff like asking questions. Sometimes

1007
00:55:23.119 --> 00:55:26.199
people were really cool and helpful, and other times people

1008
00:55:26.360 --> 00:55:29.800
cruel nasty. Mean, you know, it's like, look, if you

1009
00:55:29.840 --> 00:55:33.760
don't believe, then don't be on this site. Yeah, well

1010
00:55:33.840 --> 00:55:38.400
insill people. People are actually reaching out for help and assistance.

1011
00:55:40.239 --> 00:55:44.559
Yeah, some groups out there on Facebook are terrible. I'll

1012
00:55:44.639 --> 00:55:48.760
just say that. So when it comes to helping people,

1013
00:55:48.840 --> 00:55:52.599
they don't. Based on what you have seen and what

1014
00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:55.960
you've experienced over the last few years, how would you

1015
00:55:56.039 --> 00:56:01.840
describe what bigfoot is? And specifically, I know some people

1016
00:56:01.920 --> 00:56:06.280
are more like, well, it's some undiscovered great ape out

1017
00:56:06.280 --> 00:56:10.760
there or is it maybe something closer to a human

1018
00:56:11.480 --> 00:56:14.960
relative that we just haven't gotten in contact with.

1019
00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:17.000
What do you think?

1020
00:56:18.360 --> 00:56:21.320
Oh, I mean, look, I haven't seen it, so I

1021
00:56:21.360 --> 00:56:25.159
don't know, right, I mean, based on what you're telling me,

1022
00:56:25.280 --> 00:56:30.480
I would guess it's I mean, I don't think it's anything. Obviously,

1023
00:56:30.519 --> 00:56:34.800
it's not mythological, it's not chromagnum or anything like that.

1024
00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:39.960
I think it's it's probably Yeah, Honestly, I think it's

1025
00:56:39.960 --> 00:56:42.400
just something we've never seen before. I think it's it's

1026
00:56:42.440 --> 00:56:50.360
something where it evolved to where it has intelligence, yeah,

1027
00:56:50.360 --> 00:56:53.440
and defensive postures that we haven't seen, like a you know,

1028
00:56:53.519 --> 00:56:56.960
lizards can change colors and you know, and other things

1029
00:56:57.000 --> 00:56:58.800
can do certain I just think it's one of those

1030
00:56:58.800 --> 00:57:02.480
things where it's developed those those measures that we It

1031
00:57:02.599 --> 00:57:07.519
just makes us real hard, you know, almost impossible to

1032
00:57:07.519 --> 00:57:11.360
see them finding them. You know that I don't know,

1033
00:57:11.480 --> 00:57:16.920
because there I guess from if one of them died

1034
00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:20.159
out here, you would never know. I mean the country

1035
00:57:20.239 --> 00:57:22.760
is just so that it's not like these things are

1036
00:57:22.760 --> 00:57:25.440
being seen in a city. They're all you know, it's

1037
00:57:25.559 --> 00:57:28.039
it's out in the middle of nowhere. So when people say, well,

1038
00:57:28.079 --> 00:57:30.679
you know, we've never found one, so it don't exist.

1039
00:57:31.360 --> 00:57:33.920
Think about it. I mean, I could bury one hundred

1040
00:57:33.960 --> 00:57:36.320
dead bodies out there and no one will find them ever,

1041
00:57:36.719 --> 00:57:38.679
because it's it's just out of the middle of nowhere.

1042
00:57:38.719 --> 00:57:41.159
So I think it's something we just haven't seen that's

1043
00:57:41.199 --> 00:57:42.960
evolved on its own to where it has its own

1044
00:57:43.000 --> 00:57:45.880
set of defensive countermeasures. Is it as smart as a

1045
00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:47.360
human I don't think so.

1046
00:57:47.800 --> 00:57:51.079
I think it's smart though it's definitely hasn't. It's shown intelligent,

1047
00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:52.920
it's shown in those boundaries.

1048
00:57:53.199 --> 00:57:57.440
It's got its own language that we don't understand and

1049
00:57:57.519 --> 00:58:01.360
we don't know. And and maybe it's something that it's

1050
00:58:01.760 --> 00:58:05.320
out there that it just sounds like nature, that it

1051
00:58:05.360 --> 00:58:08.760
could be their language, Like I just it would sound

1052
00:58:08.800 --> 00:58:11.119
like a bird, but it's not a bird, it's them.

1053
00:58:12.079 --> 00:58:14.440
I'm guessing this is all look at the end of

1054
00:58:14.480 --> 00:58:17.159
the day, bigfoot, it's all best guess at this point

1055
00:58:17.719 --> 00:58:19.000
until somebody finds one.

1056
00:58:19.119 --> 00:58:23.000
I think the personalities of a bigfoot totally very like

1057
00:58:23.039 --> 00:58:26.239
a human being. I think some can be very aggressive

1058
00:58:26.480 --> 00:58:29.880
if you come on their territory and they will first

1059
00:58:29.960 --> 00:58:32.199
warn you with screaming and yelling, then they'll do the

1060
00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:35.360
rock throwing and the log throwing and the sticks, and

1061
00:58:35.440 --> 00:58:37.840
after that, if you don't leave, well then they're going

1062
00:58:37.880 --> 00:58:41.480
to get aggressive. Then you got the ones here. They

1063
00:58:41.559 --> 00:58:45.039
don't seem aggressive, but then again, I think they give

1064
00:58:45.159 --> 00:58:48.800
as good as they get. Now on the same creatures

1065
00:58:48.920 --> 00:58:52.639
on the one gentleman's property, he decided to shoot and

1066
00:58:52.679 --> 00:58:56.320
put out bear traps. Okay, they're aggressive when they were

1067
00:58:56.320 --> 00:58:59.400
on that property because the guy was being aggressive. So

1068
00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:02.199
they get as good as they give. If you're going

1069
00:59:02.239 --> 00:59:05.480
to go after them with guns and with bear traps,

1070
00:59:05.880 --> 00:59:08.840
well they need to protect themselves and they know that

1071
00:59:08.880 --> 00:59:13.079
you're a predator to them. So in return, I believe

1072
00:59:13.119 --> 00:59:16.480
two of his dogs disappeared and he never found them again.

1073
00:59:17.360 --> 00:59:20.559
And I believe that was based on the aggression that

1074
00:59:20.639 --> 00:59:23.960
he showed, shooting up you know, the field and the

1075
00:59:23.960 --> 00:59:26.440
area they were in and putting out the bear traps

1076
00:59:26.480 --> 00:59:29.880
and you know, trying to cause them harm. We're here,

1077
00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:33.119
we're not offering any harm, and nor are many people

1078
00:59:33.199 --> 00:59:35.559
around us. They're let live and let live.

1079
00:59:37.119 --> 00:59:39.880
Did that what you were just referring to, Did that

1080
00:59:39.920 --> 00:59:42.639
happen around your area too with the bear traps? Y?

1081
00:59:42.840 --> 00:59:43.039
Yes?

1082
00:59:43.320 --> 00:59:43.679
Really?

1083
00:59:44.920 --> 00:59:48.719
Mile two, let me see two three miles three three

1084
00:59:48.760 --> 00:59:50.760
at the most down the road.

1085
00:59:50.840 --> 00:59:55.280
Yeah, but the gentleman was showing them aggression. I mean,

1086
00:59:55.280 --> 00:59:57.639
I'm sorry. If someone shows me aggression, I'm going to

1087
00:59:57.719 --> 01:00:03.199
show it back. And I I think they react like

1088
01:00:03.639 --> 01:00:06.639
pretty much like human does. They have personalities like we do.

1089
01:00:07.159 --> 01:00:09.719
I believe the one we have as a family unit.

1090
01:00:09.840 --> 01:00:12.519
I think there are three heroes. I know there are

1091
01:00:12.559 --> 01:00:15.320
two dark ones that are juveniles, and the gray one

1092
01:00:15.360 --> 01:00:18.800
I think is an older one. The older one is

1093
01:00:18.960 --> 01:00:22.159
much taller. Geez, yesterday that time is at least eight

1094
01:00:22.199 --> 01:00:24.880
feet in the air, so he's at least a little

1095
01:00:24.880 --> 01:00:29.559
over eight feet and the juveniles are probably seven a

1096
01:00:29.599 --> 01:00:33.920
little over seven feet. So I do believe they understand

1097
01:00:34.000 --> 01:00:38.400
family unit and stuff like that. But you know, and

1098
01:00:38.480 --> 01:00:41.400
like I said, I believe they're intelligent. I think they understand.

1099
01:00:41.480 --> 01:00:43.960
I think they're curious of what we're doing as we're

1100
01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:47.960
curious of them. You know, they don't trust us like

1101
01:00:48.000 --> 01:00:52.119
we don't trust them. I think we've kind of I

1102
01:00:52.159 --> 01:00:54.679
don't know if this makes any sense, have some kind

1103
01:00:54.679 --> 01:00:58.559
of rapport with them, an understanding. Look, you can come

1104
01:00:58.599 --> 01:01:01.280
in here, you stay in that area, we'll leave you alone.

1105
01:01:01.599 --> 01:01:04.840
You don't go in this area. We're cool. You know.

1106
01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:07.599
We don't feed them. You know, we feed the deer

1107
01:01:08.079 --> 01:01:10.000
in the deer feeder. They don't eat the deer food,

1108
01:01:10.239 --> 01:01:13.039
but yeah, they do eat the deer and the berries

1109
01:01:13.320 --> 01:01:17.480
are there's tons of them. They they're wild, so they

1110
01:01:17.480 --> 01:01:19.559
have the berries to feed on, and they have the

1111
01:01:19.599 --> 01:01:23.000
water source and the protection and the hiding and everything

1112
01:01:23.239 --> 01:01:26.559
and no hunting. So we've actually, I guess, created the

1113
01:01:26.559 --> 01:01:29.960
perfect storm for them in this area, so they feel

1114
01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:32.519
that they're safe to hang out here whenever they want.

1115
01:01:32.679 --> 01:01:35.320
And when I have seen them, they've never run, They've

1116
01:01:35.440 --> 01:01:41.280
just walked. But their walk is just so wide gated

1117
01:01:41.679 --> 01:01:44.760
that you know they're out of site very quickly because

1118
01:01:45.039 --> 01:01:50.480
their walk is just so enormous. I mean, I would

1119
01:01:50.519 --> 01:01:52.760
take me four steps, just do one of their steps,

1120
01:01:54.119 --> 01:01:56.239
and I'd be like a big step for me because

1121
01:01:56.280 --> 01:01:58.880
they just their leg and their arm gate is just

1122
01:01:58.960 --> 01:02:03.880
so wide. But the ones I've seen, they're like whatever

1123
01:02:04.199 --> 01:02:05.679
and just what about their day.

1124
01:02:07.800 --> 01:02:11.599
It's such such a fascinating account. Guys. Thank you for

1125
01:02:12.159 --> 01:02:17.760
sharing what you are going through. I appreciate you trusting

1126
01:02:17.760 --> 01:02:22.880
me with your story for the show. It is extremely interesting.

1127
01:02:22.920 --> 01:02:27.519
It's a great case study on living with Bigfoot in

1128
01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:30.239
a current day. I want to make sure that you

1129
01:02:30.239 --> 01:02:33.440
were able to share everything that you had wanted to

1130
01:02:33.760 --> 01:02:35.400
share about your story today.

1131
01:02:35.599 --> 01:02:37.840
I think so. Yeah, there's a lot of it.

1132
01:02:39.079 --> 01:02:44.280
Yeah, absolutely. Just a reminder here at the end if

1133
01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:50.559
you want to read Lisa's collection, as she was referring

1134
01:02:50.559 --> 01:02:56.400
to the just the link for her book and that's

1135
01:02:56.440 --> 01:03:00.280
on Amazon, right Lisa, Yes, yeah, so you can get

1136
01:03:00.280 --> 01:03:03.199
that Once upon a Time in prim Arkansas, my journal

1137
01:03:03.239 --> 01:03:06.840
on Bigfoot, So go ahead, definitely check that out to

1138
01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:11.400
get it's It's always interesting when you when you read

1139
01:03:11.599 --> 01:03:14.320
an account and you listen to an account, so you're

1140
01:03:14.320 --> 01:03:17.079
probably going to learn more about it if you read

1141
01:03:17.639 --> 01:03:21.360
the actual book as well, so I'd recommend checking it out.

1142
01:03:21.400 --> 01:03:24.679
It's it's very it's a very interesting read. But thank

1143
01:03:24.679 --> 01:03:27.239
you again guys for coming on the show. You know,

1144
01:03:28.440 --> 01:03:30.719
I'd love to hear from you in the future if

1145
01:03:30.760 --> 01:03:34.599
things continue to happen. But thanks again for spending some

1146
01:03:34.639 --> 01:03:35.719
of your time with me today.

1147
01:03:36.320 --> 01:03:36.679
Thank you.

1148
01:03:38.519 --> 01:03:41.559
Have you ever heard all the accounts of Bigfoot activity

1149
01:03:41.599 --> 01:03:44.800
around Oakridge, Oregon and you think to yourself, man, I

1150
01:03:44.840 --> 01:03:47.800
would love to get out in those woods and experience it.

1151
01:03:47.840 --> 01:03:53.079
For myself. Well, guess what this year you can If

1152
01:03:53.079 --> 01:03:56.519
this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's pretty cool.

1153
01:03:57.280 --> 01:04:01.760
Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up tenth through the eleventh,

1154
01:04:02.039 --> 01:04:05.639
twenty twenty six. It's gonna be even better than the

1155
01:04:05.679 --> 01:04:09.599
previous year's reason number one, I'll be one of the speakers.

1156
01:04:10.119 --> 01:04:15.679
It's gonna be wild. I'll probably I'll say this. There

1157
01:04:15.719 --> 01:04:19.639
may be stuff you haven't heard anywhere else, because let's

1158
01:04:19.719 --> 01:04:24.280
just say sometimes it's well, you just gotta be there.

1159
01:04:24.639 --> 01:04:27.039
We'll leave it that more about looking for Bigfoot in

1160
01:04:27.079 --> 01:04:30.159
the Oakridge Woods. Now check this out. You may know

1161
01:04:30.960 --> 01:04:36.239
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1162
01:04:36.280 --> 01:04:39.920
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1163
01:04:40.320 --> 01:04:48.159
but you can also sign up for a track deep

1164
01:04:48.199 --> 01:04:51.519
in the wild forest outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie

1165
01:04:52.519 --> 01:04:56.119
to the Bigfoot spots to look for Bigfoot. There's only

1166
01:04:56.159 --> 01:05:00.320
eight spots to sign up for this. And yes, this

1167
01:05:00.400 --> 01:05:03.280
will also be filmed for the next chapter in his

1168
01:05:03.400 --> 01:05:06.719
documentary series, which is Searching for Sasquatch. This is a

1169
01:05:06.760 --> 01:05:09.239
once in a lifetime deal. It's just trust it's going

1170
01:05:09.280 --> 01:05:14.079
to be a wild, wild experience to get a ticket,

1171
01:05:14.480 --> 01:05:18.480
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1172
01:05:18.480 --> 01:05:24.000
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1173
01:05:24.559 --> 01:05:26.599
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1174
01:05:26.639 --> 01:05:30.840
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1175
01:05:31.119 --> 01:05:35.880
for giving me that code so that you guys can

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can get a little help with the costs there. Appreciate that, Priscilla.

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I hope to see you at the booth in Oakridge

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this year. We can talk about your encounter. Was able

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to talk to so many people last year and the

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year before. It is an incredible time. You're not going

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to want to miss it, and I'll see you there.

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Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

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directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

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in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've

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seen something that no one can explain, or if you're

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a National Park ranger or forestry worker who's been told

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to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen

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something strange down on the ground, or if you're with

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the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you

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stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about, and

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if you're a firefighter paramedic or search and rescue responder

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who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense.

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If you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field,

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or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something

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happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're

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a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under

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contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

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If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

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spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook you faith,

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or if you work in the shadows CIA, NSA or

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anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

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then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

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You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

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The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

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carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story,

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We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank

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you for listening to this episode of the Bigot Society podcast.

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Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is

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bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth

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is often hiding just beyond the tree Line. If you

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enjoyed this episode, please be sure to subscribe to the

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because all that helps more people discover the show. And remember,

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if you or someone you know has had a Bigfoot sighting,

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please I'd love to hear from you, so email me

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at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com and let's start

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the conversation. If you haven't gotten a chance yet, check

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out our membership community over at www dot Bigfoot Society

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podcast dot com and that's where you can hear tomorrow's

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episode today early in ad free and members only episodes

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every week. Also, it's a place to connect with other

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people that are into the Bigfoot subject as much as

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you are. Thanks again for following along with the Bigfoot

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Society until next time, keep your eyes open, trust your gut,

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and never stop asking what else might be out there?

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And see you in the woods.