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Originally released as Episode 453. What happens when a young girl’s innocent day in the mud turns into a lifetime of terror? In this haunting episode, we meet Anne — a woman from North Idaho whose encounters with Bigfoot began at just four years old...

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Season 1

Originally released as Episode 453.

What happens when a young girl’s innocent day in the mud turns into a lifetime of terror? In this haunting episode, we meet Anne — a woman from North Idaho whose encounters with Bigfoot began at just four years old on the South Hill of Spokane. But this isn’t just another sighting. From mind speak, violent night terrors, and dreams of giants to mysterious voices calling her dog’s name in the woods — Anne’s story spirals into chilling high strangeness that only intensifies over time. We explore the terrifying morning when a screaming cow elk may have witnessed her calf being taken... and a shadowy upright figure appeared in the snow. You’ll hear about tree shakes, electronic sounds from the forest, dreams of protection, and an unsettling presence that never quite lets go. This is more than a cryptid tale. It’s the story of a life marked by something watching. And waiting. Stay with us.

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You're listening to Bigla Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, BIGFES Society. We got

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the privilege of talking to individual Anne, who I'd seen

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a comment on a YouTube video and I had asked

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for her to reach out, and she actually did end

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up reaching out, and it's leading to a very interesting

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conversation that's about to happen. I've been waiting to talk

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to Anne for a little bit of time, and I'm

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glad that the time is finally here. But and how

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are we doing tonight?

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Wonderful the pleasure's mind. I'm glad that you called absolute

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it is.

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I think there's going to be a lot to this

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one but Ann, I'm going to go ahead and let

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you fill in the details about what you would like

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the audience to know about your background, if anything.

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Okay, the topic is Bigfoot obviously or things like that.

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High strangeness, and so from a very early age. I'm

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in my I'm about fifty three, but in the early

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seventies I had my first experience. I'm from the Pacific Northwest,

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and I have lived in other places. Some of those

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events occurred in other places too, and I can get

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into those if that's where we go. I grew up

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on a farm, a conventional family and a little bit

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of religion there, and definite belief in God and our

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Savior and Jesus Christ things like that. But also there

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was a rift in the family. My parents divorced, and

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then after that time there was movements. So it's not

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I don't want it to be portrayed lit it always

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was conventional. Because you'll see that that my story takes

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me to different places too, because I've had to scramble

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as a single mom myself in work, and so I've

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had to travel a lot. So that's that kind of

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bleeds into why there are situations that have happened it

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or occurred in different parts of the country. But leading

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back to I think it was like nineteen seventy four.

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My dad and his cousin we were in We were

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north of Spokane, Washington State. It was in Washington State,

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that's northeast Washington, and we were in Spokane. I remember

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vividly at least seeing the thing. My cousin, my second cousin,

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was babysitting because my dad and his cousin. His cousin

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was in law school and my mom and my dad

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were friends with They used to go do things together

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and so his oldest daughter would babysit us. There was

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four or five kids, and we were all about the

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same age. I was, I think the youngest. Maybe there

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might have been one younger than me, but I was

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about before. We were in the yard plane making mudpies,

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and we had a hose out there, I remember, and

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it was on the South Hill and Spokane. But this

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is back before there was a lot of development, and

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so there was more trees in the back behind and

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forested areas and we were in the backyard playing and

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there was a big tree to my left and I

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was facing say north, because the house was also to

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the west of me, which was on my left, and

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then there was a big, huge tree, like a tamarack,

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because Pacific Northwest is well known for those, even in backyards.

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And then we had this big mud blog or whatever

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we were playing in, and then the kids all ran in,

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so they ran inside, and I just remember lagging behind

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because I wanted to still make mudpies. I was having

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a grand old time and I didn't want to go in,

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so I stayed out. And that was always curious to me,

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because it was like a point of separation that's talked about.

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The kids went inside, I was alone, and I'm sitting

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there making these mud pies, and I remember seeing something

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huge behind the tree. It like slid up behind the

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tree and I just saw it like peripherally, and then

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it leaned out and I remember seeing these huge eyes.

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It was huge. It must have been I don't know

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because I was so young, but it was very large

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and ominous, and I remember experiencing its presence like it

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was formidable. It was scary. I was literally terrified, and

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it didn't have a normal expression on its face, like

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it wasn't friendly, it wasn't it like looked at me

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like very intense intent. I just took off running into

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the house. I had to run past it, but I

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did a curved around. I swung wide, and I got inside,

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and I had wet my pants, and I may have

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done more than that, because I remember I got in

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trouble by the parents because they didn't have a change

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of clothes for me, and that it became about that,

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like I never got that part out to them, that

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there had been not that I was very vocal at

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the age of four, but I know that later on

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we had talked about it. My family's well aware that

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it happened, and my dad said, maybe it was teenagers

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or something. But he had his own experience when he

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was ten sixty miles north of Spokane when he was hunting,

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because back then they used to hunt really young, back

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in the fifties or sixties, whenever it was. And he's

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more open to these sorts of things than like maybe

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another parent or something. But my entire family knew that

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I had experienced this thing because I'd talked about it

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off and on after that, and then also after that

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I experienced, like right away it was really weird. I

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would go to bed and my bed would shake and

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then I would get these impressions like it was like

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mine speak, but it was like in unison there was

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more than one voice, and it would be like, we

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are going to get you, just like this chanting sort

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of stuff. It was so bizarre, and I would go

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into my parents' bedroom, I remember, and tell them I'm

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I can't get rid of it. Oh it's your subconscious.

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Oh it'll be okay, It'll be okay. And then at

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the age of eight, I was baptized, and then I

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had just noticed that. I had thought i'd grow out

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of it, But looking back later, I realized that was

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around the time that I never had those voices at night.

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So it wasn't like a paranoid sort of schizoid event

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or anything like that. It wasn't like that sort of

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development because it would only happen at night, and it

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would only happen when I was alone. So it's not

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I was hearing these voices or something. It's when I

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was alone at night in my bed, and then the

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bed would shake, and my dreams were terrible. It would

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be like I'd have dreams that big hairy creatures were

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coming after me and that I would freeze in the

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yard and I would drag my legs to the house

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or I had to protect my little kittens or something,

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and I would be putting up these cardboard walls because

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the creatures would be coming through the walls. It was

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just always really night tears and things like that. And then,

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like I said, when I got baptized, that sort of

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stuff went away. The night tears, that sweet paralysis still

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came back off and on, but that mind speak stuff

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all went away. And I truly do believe that we

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have power in that sort of thing. So that's why

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I led into the hole. That there was a religious

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breadground there, and some people don't believe that sort of thing.

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But just whatever your flavor is, whatever it is, that

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was mine and it worked and it worked for me

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at least that's my That's how I feel about it.

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And then later on, as time went on, some weird

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stuff happened. There was another incident in Spokan, but it

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wasn't it wasn't a bigfoot. I saw it go.

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Ahead before we get into that, and I know listeners

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are hating me right now, but we already talked before

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guys that we're gonna there's going to be campouts through

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this conversation because I don't want to just skip over

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what you just shared, and it was a lot that

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you just shared, and maybe we could chat about that

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for a little bit. Okay, okay, cool. So that was

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back when you were four that you had your first

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visual when you think five four or five, yeah, okay,

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And when you think of that time your memory that

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you have, do you remember as it was this big

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like ape type creature or it was a big, like

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weird looking human type creature or is there anything like

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that in your mind?

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And that's the confusion because I wasn't sure that it

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was like a bigfoot at the time, because it wasn't

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like a big, hairy ape, but it was if you

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could imagine the outline of one, you could still see

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its eyes and things like that. It was still there, intangible.

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But I was like, I don't know how to the

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only other I've seen one since, and it's not it's

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the same thing, but this was more like a like

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a creature. It was more like so hard to explain.

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I heard it explained one time on another podcast where

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this woman had come up through Wyoming and she said

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that she saw one that was stretched across the highway,

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and it smiled at her had a big mouth, but

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she said it was like a weird color, like cream

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or something like that. I know it sounds weird, but

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that's what it was like. It wasn't your traditional It

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was like, I don't remember so much like the hair

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or fur as I do that. It was just this

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huge head and face staring at me. And then I

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saw the body out of the corner of my eye

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slide up behind the tree. But it was huge. And

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then when it came out the front part of the tree,

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its eyes must have been they must have been as

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big as baseballs, I felt. I don't know, I was

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four or five. Yeah, but big, huge, mouth huge.

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I was going to ask you about it, so it

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was Was it a drawn out mouth or do you

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remember any specifics about the mouth? I think it smiled, okay.

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Were you able to see teeth when it smiled?

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Oh huh huh?

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Interesting? And do you remember any other details of the

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face maybe skin color?

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I don't. I don't. What's got my memory messed up

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is that I saw it crawl behind the tree, up

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to the tree, and when it did that, it was

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a weird thing. It was a weird not normal thing.

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The way it kind of crept up, like it glided

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up a little bit but was on the ground, but

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kind of it was really weird. And so the whole

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that part of it and then it leaning out. The

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eyes were big, the mouth and it like looked at

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me like, I don't know, I don't know why it

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didn't grab me. That should have come next.

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I was going to ask you, because there's a point

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where you had to run past it, but you made

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a wide curve, right. How did it react to it all?

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When you did that run past?

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I was fight or fight? I had no nothing. As

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soon as I saw it was like I got that

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whatever adrenaline dump and was gone. I mean, thank goodness,

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at least it wasn't to freeze. Yeah, it triggered me

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to shoot out of there, and I don't I just

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remember just being it just head so fast into the

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house like it was there's no way I was sticking around.

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How soon after that did the hearing, the voices and

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the dream start.

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I would have to say right away, because my memories

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go back to that point, you know what I mean.

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And not a lot of people remember past four or five,

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but I have memories back to three, like when my

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mom brought home my little brother, who's three years younger

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than me. I remember when she brought him home, but

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I don't remember mind speaker anything like that. And it

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wasn't like mine speak, like it really wasn't having a

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communication with me. It was like somehow these voices, and

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there was numerous voices were trying to scare me, and

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they were chanting, and it's just crazy. It's nothing that

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I heard, Like our house was, no one else heard it.

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Our house was very my dad very detective, he's a

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marine veteran. Just there's just no way that it was

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coming from anywhere else other than what was inside of me.

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And maybe it was just me and my subconscious, but

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there was a correlation, is all I'm saying it. Certainly

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I tied it together, and maybe it was a trauma response.

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Maybe it was a trauma response. And then maybe just

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being baptized after that made me feel secure and safe.

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And yeah, absolutely the dreams that you would have where

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you said the big hair creatures would be coming after you, Yes,

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did they look the same as what you saw?

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Sometimes they were represented as apes, sometimes they were represented

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as bears. But I have actually had dreams of giants

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before I had my most recent sighting. So I've had

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dreams that I was up on our property up north

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of Spokane and that there was a big flood and

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then they were like swinging down and they weren't good,

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but it was like some kind of natural disaster and

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they were coming around and they were formidable again, but

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they were at that point like Bigfoot.

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Okay, and this is a dream you had around the

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same time. You said that was later in life, No, later.

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Well later, they've just been ongoing.

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Yeah, Oh you've had ongoing dreams.

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Like oh yeah really yeah.

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Okay, so the voice is stopped after you got baptized,

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but the dreams did not. No, No, really interesting.

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And that could just be my own fears.

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I don't know obviously, Yeah that I just wanted to

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talk about that for a little bit. Oh actually there

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were a few more. So the house that this happened around.

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How close was your closest neighbor at that time?

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It behind us. I'm not sure because because we were

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up on the south like right now, it would it's

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just it's all developed. But I think it was just

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a regular neighborhood where there was forest in the back.

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It came in through the back. It came in through

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the back, for sure. For sure it did, because that's

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the way it traveled. But it was still a populated area.

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You didn't have to go very far to go to

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the bing Crosby Theater down the hill, but it was

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up high on the south hill a bit. But it

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was just way back then. It just wasn't as developed.

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You didn't have your nice model homes that are up

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there now. Behind there was just a lot of open area.

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Do you think your parents believed you at all when

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you would tell them what happened.

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Yeah, because my dad has had situations. Like I said,

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when he was ten, he was hunting in a swamp

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on our property and he said he could fill a

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presence in there, and it scared him and he left.

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He was hunting a deer in there swamp. It was

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a big area, and I remember riding horses by there

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before I even knew about what happened to him. But

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I rode horses when I was a kid, and I

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would always look at that tree line and think that

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Native Americans were in there watching me or something, because

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we Native Americans used to battle on those grounds. But

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I don't think it was Native American spirits that were

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looking at me. I think it might have been something else.

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I don't know.

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Sure. So you said the same property.

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It not is what I saw in Spokane. This is

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a different property where just there's just a lot of

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high strangeness in Washington State in general and Idaho.

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So yeah, very interesting. You're right it did start right

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off the bat for you, but you're free to definitely

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let's continue with what happens next.

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Yeah, And I think that just opened me up to things.

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I just think that I knew it probably traumatized me greatly.

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It's more than anything. And I just want to put

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that out there that people that are around looking for

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bigfoot situations and things like that, they're unclean. I don't

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believe they're clean spirits. They don't seem to experience joy

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or love or whatever. I don't know. We don't get

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that close to them, but they certainly do like to

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instill fear upon you and terror, and they seem to

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have a little bit of jealousy too, But I'll get

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into that. They seem to compete or have a little

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bit of ego, and to me, that's just those are

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all those wrong emotions. That seems to be what they

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function on, and so I just don't think that they're

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I don't think they're I don't think they're beneficial to humans.

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I think we spend way too much time thinking about them,

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and I think people pursue them. Right now, there's a novelty.

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People make money off of it. But if you truly

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are experiencing them like how I experience them, and they

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play games and they manipulate, I'll get into that. But

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they can make you sick like I've been sick. I

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have been sick for days after being out in the

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woods with my dogs after having one of them call

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out my dog's name or something like that, and I've

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been around them, hearing the weird noises and stuff. I'll

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get sick after that, and that's just not good. It's

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not good for you. But so just moving on and

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I'll try not to. There's been some other weirdness that

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I've experienced, but I'll try to move forward. When I

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moved to Oklahoma, I lived for a couple of years

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in Tulsa Broken Arrow, and I would run to the

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like the come and Go or the gas station in

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the morning to exercise and then I would run back

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and I would have to run through these fields. And

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this one field had a hay the round hay bills,

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and it also had the culvert area in there, and

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then there was a golf course close to it. But

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sometimes when I would come home, I would just know

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there like there was a dark thing that was standing

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by that that hey belle, and I wouldn't never look

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straight at it. I kind of knew not to do

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that from the time I was a little one and

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that happened. I knew not to look because I didn't

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want to know. I didn't want to know what I

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was looking at, and I would just go by. But

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then there was some violent tree shaking that was going

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on in the mornings, and so then I quit going

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at dark. I'd wait till the light came out, and

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so that there was more humans around. Because one time

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I had gone around, I had routed around. I wanted

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to extend how far I was running. I was probably

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late thirties, early forties, I guess around the time, and

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just trying to get more exercise. So I extended my

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route and I've smelled the smell, got the formidable weirdness,

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weird feeling whatever it was, I knew that the tree shaking.

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I hadn't invested bigfoot wasn't quite what it is now.

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Right now there's a hysteria on it, but it was

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more on the downlow. You didn't really talk about it.

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But I knew that there was something like that because

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I had experienced it early in life. And sometimes there's

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things that just aren't explainable. And I remember one time

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on my way back, I saw print. It was a huge,

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bare footprint and it was in the mud because that

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was a field that they had been Obviously there was

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some Timothy hay or something they had planted in it.

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Otherwise it wouldn't had bills of hay in it, but

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it had rained and there was this big, huge footprint.

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And then I looked around and there was no other footprints.

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And so me not knowing like how it goes. I

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knew what I saw when I was little, but I

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didn't know that they can just have a print and

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then go away, like you can see just one print

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and then there's no prints, no other prints. And that's

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what I saw. I saw one print and then there

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was no other prince, and so I discounted it because

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I thought there's no other print, so that's not a

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big foot. So I'll check that off. And now hearing

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other people say yeah, there was just one print and

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then it's like it dissipated or went away. Now I

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would know, oh, that was legitimately a footprint. That's legitimately

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a bigfoot, but I just discounted it. I moved to

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North Idaho. I had my families from North Idaho Northeast Washington.

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I moved to North Idaho and I started going on

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I'm in a community. It's a small community, and we

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are just surrounded by mountains. There's just hardly any flat

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land at all. And I started going on the trail

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on my bike with my dog, I have a German shepherd,

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and started experiencing really strange stuff. The tree, the violent

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tree shaking to where it couldn't just be something shaking

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the trees, like every leaf is shaking. It was really

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weird in broad daylight, just different stuff that I was experiencing.

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And then there's some real weirdness to this area. But

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I'm going to go into my Elks story. This happened

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in twenty nineteen. In twenty twenty, my family's well aware

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of it. My manager at work heard about it that morning.

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The janitor that works where I worked had a situation

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back when he was five behind one of our famous

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restaurants here along the river. He had gone up to

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the chicken coop behind their house or behind the restaurant,

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because they had a house up there, and they had

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a bear hanging that they had just gutted and killed

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and it was hanging in the tree. And he said

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that he watched a bigfoot walk across the chicken it

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actually upright step over the chicken wire because it had

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been out there investigating that bear hanging there. And this

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is a common theme. You'll talk to people who hunt

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and they hang, they'll hang different stuff and then they'll

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get slaps on their houses and things like that. It's

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talked about amongst certain people that and then maybe not others.

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I don't know, but anyhow, so one morning, it was

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in twenty nineteen or twenty twenty. It was December or January.

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It was snowing out. Actually I got to go to

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the night before because this is going to explain how

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these things think. They're very manipulative. So I go out.

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I've got my dog, she loves these tennis pen tennis

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balls that are like greenish yellow that you buy Ace hardware.

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You open the can, three come out and then I

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have a ball launch And so I launched the ball

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down the hill because then she has to run up

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the hill and she gets more exercise out of it

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and quickly kind of make her do more work. Right,

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So I'm doing the ball launching. This is probably about

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six o'clock at night, maybe earlier. I guess it would

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be dark. So it was earlier because it was that

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time of year, so I don't know it was the

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night before, but it wasn't dark out. The herd had

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come in. The elk herd had come. They come across

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from the north, they crossed the highway and they come

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up and then they go up onto the southern mountains

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and so they're just very it's very common to see them.

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They'll migrate over, but they're just really doing their they're

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sticking together, the cows and the calves. So these were

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first year calves and they were all following their moms.

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And there's like different tiers levels of ground that they

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go on, and they follow these little wildlife trails and

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you can watch them where I'm at, and I don't

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want to say where I'm at because I've been going

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there a long time and I don't want to. I

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just don't want to call it out. But anyways, so

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they cross over in front of me, and I'm sitting

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there throwing this launching this ball with my dog and

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I'm yelling at her and not mean we're having a

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good time. And the cows turn with their antenna ears

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that you could tell their face, and you know, they

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got their ears out. They're just curious as to what

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the heck we're doing because that dog keeps running after

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the ball and running up the hill and it was

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entertaining their babies. Two of the babies start jumping around

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and playing. It was almost like Rich and Rudolph and

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Reindeer gave it. It was so cute because the dog

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was jumping around and excited, and so the little calves.

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It was they were far away, but they could still

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see and I could see them and they're jumping around.

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I thought, that is the most adorable thing ever, because

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I had incited like this joyful play in them, or

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I hadn't. My dog had us we together had done that,

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and I thought, wow, what a memory. So I posted

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on social media because it was so exciting for me.

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I was like, oh, these calves were playing. It was

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so cute and just that they had responded like that.

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And then the next morning I went out because I

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wanted I had to go to work and I wanted

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to take her out because she was home all day long,

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and I took her out early. It was about seven

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am and I hear this cow elk screaming and she's

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to my north. These cows last the night before had

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been to my south because they had crossed up and

463
00:25:51.640 --> 00:25:55.519
over the road. So this cow elk is just bellowing.

464
00:25:55.720 --> 00:25:59.160
She's screaming her head off, and they only do that

465
00:25:59.200 --> 00:26:03.799
if something's and their baby, Like, she wouldn't shut up.

466
00:26:03.880 --> 00:26:07.160
It was super loud. The other cows had crossed over

467
00:26:07.720 --> 00:26:10.440
and they were doing it quickly, so they weren't like

468
00:26:10.599 --> 00:26:13.480
casually walking. So there was something down there and I

469
00:26:13.480 --> 00:26:16.079
thought it might be a coyote or something, and I

470
00:26:16.119 --> 00:26:18.480
didn't know, but it was disturbing because they had just

471
00:26:18.920 --> 00:26:21.759
been playing and I didn't know if it was one

472
00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:23.799
of those cows or not. Not to get too attached

473
00:26:23.839 --> 00:26:26.640
or anything, but that would have been a bummer. Anyways,

474
00:26:26.759 --> 00:26:29.279
I'm sitting there and I'm watching I'm trying to see

475
00:26:29.319 --> 00:26:32.400
where the cow is screaming from, and I couldn't see it.

476
00:26:33.079 --> 00:26:37.559
But then there's these two big hills, and then there's

477
00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:43.160
a bridge that on a trail, and this upright figure

478
00:26:43.279 --> 00:26:47.640
walks right across that bridge in between the two hills.

479
00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:51.440
And this is pretty far away. It's about maybe an

480
00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:53.119
eighth of a mile, maybe a quarter of a mile.

481
00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:56.440
I can't really measure it. I've shown my like kids

482
00:26:56.440 --> 00:26:59.440
and stuff and where it's at and on a map

483
00:26:59.480 --> 00:27:01.880
and stuff, but I can't really measure it. But it's

484
00:27:02.279 --> 00:27:05.799
close enough to where I could see an upright figure

485
00:27:05.880 --> 00:27:08.359
walk across. I couldn't distinguish if it was a man

486
00:27:08.440 --> 00:27:12.640
or not, but it was a really tall, upright thing.

487
00:27:12.759 --> 00:27:14.759
And in the back of my mind, I thought, where's

488
00:27:14.839 --> 00:27:18.119
the baby calf. It wasn't holding it, so it was

489
00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:20.319
not a bigfoot. I don't know why I thought that.

490
00:27:20.640 --> 00:27:22.480
I don't even know why I thought it was a bigfoot,

491
00:27:23.119 --> 00:27:26.920
probably because she's screaming her head off and why would

492
00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:29.400
there be a human so close to her, because it

493
00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:31.759
was coming from that area, and I was like, this

494
00:27:31.799 --> 00:27:34.759
is so weird, this is so bizarre. I didn't see

495
00:27:34.799 --> 00:27:37.440
clothes on it, because it crossed over that so quickly.

496
00:27:37.559 --> 00:27:41.680
But I couldn't get a gauge on I don't know,

497
00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:45.519
like it was right beyond my it wasn't close enough

498
00:27:45.559 --> 00:27:47.000
to me to where I could get a gauge. And

499
00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:49.640
it went so quickly that I couldn't figure out what

500
00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:52.440
it was, but I knew that it was big. And

501
00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:56.200
so I got in my car and with my dog

502
00:27:56.680 --> 00:28:00.079
and I drove down and through the field where you

503
00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:03.680
would have to see that person walking, and it's for

504
00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:06.599
half a mile and then half a mile the other way.

505
00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:10.000
There's no way in the amount of time that I

506
00:28:10.079 --> 00:28:14.119
raced down there that person could be gone. Within that

507
00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:16.160
period of time. You would still see them walking into

508
00:28:16.200 --> 00:28:19.519
town or away from town either way. I was outside

509
00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:21.880
of town, but you would have to see them on

510
00:28:21.920 --> 00:28:24.720
that trail, because that trail goes for miles and it's open.

511
00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:29.519
And so I went down there and I crept down

512
00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:32.759
to the bank, and at that point I'm not thinking

513
00:28:32.759 --> 00:28:35.039
it's bigfoot. I'm thinking I just need to see a guy.

514
00:28:35.240 --> 00:28:38.200
I just need to see a person. And I'm with

515
00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:41.079
my dog and there's no one there, and I go

516
00:28:41.160 --> 00:28:44.559
and I look for any footprints there's nothing there. There

517
00:28:44.599 --> 00:28:47.599
was nothing there. It was snowing. There was snow out,

518
00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:52.519
so there should be prints unless he was had stopped

519
00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:55.599
and hid up somewhere. You just you would see him.

520
00:28:55.759 --> 00:28:57.880
There was a I could see back down to the

521
00:28:57.920 --> 00:29:00.839
bridge that he was on, but there no prints. So

522
00:29:01.079 --> 00:29:04.119
something weird was going on. And I went back up

523
00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:06.559
towards my car because I'm trying to take all this

524
00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:09.039
in because when something like this happens, you got you

525
00:29:09.079 --> 00:29:13.079
have cognitive dissonance. You're like, Okay, don't overthink this, this

526
00:29:13.160 --> 00:29:16.119
is what is this? It's just it was weird, all

527
00:29:16.200 --> 00:29:19.880
of it sudden. I see this elk come running at

528
00:29:19.920 --> 00:29:24.839
me from two hills away. She comes barreling towards me,

529
00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:29.000
and then she disappears. That's because she went down. And

530
00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:31.200
then she came up the other hill closer to me,

531
00:29:31.519 --> 00:29:34.519
and she's coming right at me, and she gets to

532
00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:36.880
be about fifty feet away from me. I can see

533
00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:39.880
the steam in her nostrils. I'm all we have is

534
00:29:39.960 --> 00:29:42.960
like some weeds between us, but they have no leaves

535
00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:46.440
on them, so they're basically just sticks. I have nothing

536
00:29:46.480 --> 00:29:50.599
to protect myself, and my dog's not chasing her, and

537
00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:53.839
I don't understand what's going on. I don't understand. I

538
00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:56.799
don't want my dog to chase her, but I'm like

539
00:29:57.119 --> 00:30:02.160
going to get trampled. And so then in my I'm thinking, okay,

540
00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:05.799
is this a bull? And then I'm like, wait, bulls

541
00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:10.559
don't lose their antlers until like April. This is December

542
00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:12.880
or January, whatever it was. It was winter, and so

543
00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:16.079
I'm like, this is a cow. And so she looks

544
00:30:16.079 --> 00:30:18.359
at me. She just keeps staring at me, trying to

545
00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:21.559
sess who I was or what I was. And then

546
00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:25.759
she looks back at my dog behind me, and then

547
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:31.799
she turns back and chases off to the south and

548
00:30:31.960 --> 00:30:35.000
just like she shoots are over to the south, not

549
00:30:35.119 --> 00:30:37.160
where she had come from, but where the other ones

550
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:38.839
were going. She was probably gonna meet up with them

551
00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:42.799
or whatever. And I'm just sitting there scratching my head

552
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:45.119
like I almost died. She almost trampled me. And then

553
00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:47.640
I thought, why would she trample me? Why was she

554
00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:51.960
after me? Why did she see an upright person walking

555
00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:56.240
and come after me? What grabbed her baby? And this

556
00:30:56.319 --> 00:30:58.359
is all true. I would take a light detect her.

557
00:30:58.359 --> 00:31:00.559
I swear to you, this is all true. This all happened,

558
00:31:00.599 --> 00:31:04.759
and she was after me. But and I saw an

559
00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:07.880
upright thing walk across the bridge, but I never saw

560
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:10.839
the calf. But I will say this, and I have

561
00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:15.559
video of this. Every year or thereafter, a cow will

562
00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:19.319
stand in that place right around there, waiting for a baby.

563
00:31:19.400 --> 00:31:22.880
Like babies are getting taken. I don't know if there's

564
00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:25.000
coyotes and there's bear there too, you know what I mean.

565
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:31.000
But it was a mother that her baby had gotten

566
00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:33.920
taken from her. And now this is going to sound

567
00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:37.920
really weird, but I went to where can. I told

568
00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:40.160
my manager about it, and he was like, you got

569
00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:41.839
really lucky, and I know what that sounds like. I

570
00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:43.799
had to rescue a baby calf that was cut because

571
00:31:43.799 --> 00:31:45.720
they hunt around here. That is just the way it is.

572
00:31:46.559 --> 00:31:49.119
And he goes, you were really fortunate to see that.

573
00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:53.279
When he believed me, I think, but he was nice

574
00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:55.880
about it. But other people at work that had seen

575
00:31:55.960 --> 00:31:59.319
things like this also came up with their stories, like

576
00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:02.119
the one that I told you that they hung a

577
00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:03.960
bear and he had seen it, you know what I mean.

578
00:32:04.039 --> 00:32:07.319
So it's not I'm not embarrassed to tell the story.

579
00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:10.200
The freakiest part about it is what's the point of it,

580
00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:12.920
the point of it that Bigfoot had seen me the

581
00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:18.200
night before and had seen those babies celebrating. And I

582
00:32:18.359 --> 00:32:21.519
swear to you, I just got this feeling as soon

583
00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:24.480
as all this went down that Bigfoot was punishing me

584
00:32:26.599 --> 00:32:27.519
because I cared.

585
00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:29.720
That's really interesting, And.

586
00:32:29.640 --> 00:32:31.319
That's the part. Isn't that weird?

587
00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:35.079
That is it is a very that's unlike anything I've

588
00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:39.200
ever heard. To be honest, you're seeing multiple other people

589
00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:42.440
have experienced similar things in the same area.

590
00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:48.400
Not like that, but they've seen them like they've seen

591
00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:52.480
them up closer. But yes, they've there, and I mean

592
00:32:52.559 --> 00:32:56.880
out where I am. After that, there was I have

593
00:32:56.960 --> 00:33:00.440
pictures of it and I posted on face because I

594
00:33:00.440 --> 00:33:02.519
wanted to know about some of the local hikers. They

595
00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:04.920
go hiking everywhere. I want to see if they'd ever

596
00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:07.119
seen these bones. They were laid out. There was moose,

597
00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:14.400
eh dear, all lined up like different ages of bones.

598
00:33:14.799 --> 00:33:17.640
I have the pictures. I have receipts for stuff. When

599
00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:20.559
I experienced stuff, I take pictures. I have a moose

600
00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:24.039
liver was left for me last year. I called fishing

601
00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:25.839
game because it would have been a proaching incident. It

602
00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:28.559
was in the summer they're like, we don't know, like

603
00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:33.839
why just deliver it was left where my car parked espr.

604
00:33:34.759 --> 00:33:37.119
Yes, I don't get that.

605
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:39.319
Why you're telling.

606
00:33:39.119 --> 00:33:39.960
Me totly man.

607
00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:44.000
And it wasn't a dumping. It wasn't anything dumping my dogs.

608
00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:47.960
This sounds silly, but my dog's balls disappeared, the tennis balls,

609
00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:51.279
and they'll pop up in the same place, like just

610
00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:56.920
weird mind games, like really weird mind games. And I

611
00:33:57.039 --> 00:33:59.680
was hiking one day and I have the the text

612
00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:02.480
mess my roommate. I had taken her out like a

613
00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:05.440
couple days before to where I was hiking, and this

614
00:34:05.480 --> 00:34:08.440
is around where this all went on with this cow

615
00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:13.440
elp and I took my dog. I had a little

616
00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:15.400
i'd have a little shit, and the German shepherd at

617
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:17.239
this time, because I'd gotten the shit to my dad,

618
00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:20.559
brought her to me as a rescue. And anyways, so

619
00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:24.360
I'm hiking. Three days I took her hiking, the roommate,

620
00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:29.280
and then three days later I went hiking alone, and

621
00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:32.039
I remember I took a picture of this thing and

622
00:34:32.079 --> 00:34:34.880
I said, was this there when we were hiking? And she's, yeah,

623
00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:37.559
that was there. And then we went up this hill

624
00:34:37.599 --> 00:34:42.519
towards the mountain and I hear this. I don't want

625
00:34:42.519 --> 00:34:46.119
to say my dog's name because people know me, but

626
00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:50.679
it's a two syllable name and it's very unique. It's German.

627
00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:55.639
And I hear that, and then my dog did too,

628
00:34:55.960 --> 00:34:58.559
and it was twice. We hear this twice, and it's

629
00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:02.920
in my roommates voice, and I'm like, gosh, she came

630
00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:04.880
out here. I thought I was gonna have privacy and

631
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:08.159
being like a brat about it right because I'm thinking, dah,

632
00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:09.840
she followed me out here. I thought she was going

633
00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:11.480
down by the river. I wanted some time. No, she

634
00:35:11.519 --> 00:35:15.039
knows my hike spot and she's coming without. So I

635
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:17.440
texted her. I said are you here, and she goes, no,

636
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:20.960
I'm taking a shower. I'm back at the house. And

637
00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:23.880
I said, I just heard you yell, and I have

638
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:28.639
the text messages. I said, I heard you yell my

639
00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:30.880
dog's name, and I said her name, and she goes,

640
00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:33.320
I believe you, she goes, but I swear to you.

641
00:35:33.440 --> 00:35:35.280
He goes, I was down at the river. Look, these

642
00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:36.599
are the pictures. I took them here at the house

643
00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:39.079
right now. She took a picture and I was like, oh,

644
00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:43.559
my gosh, my dog even heard it and perked up

645
00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:45.760
and was like, we were confused as to what to

646
00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:47.719
do next. We thought it was her name was Kristin.

647
00:35:48.840 --> 00:35:51.039
I thought it was Kristin because it was in her

648
00:35:51.159 --> 00:35:55.599
voice and there was nobody around, do you know what

649
00:35:55.679 --> 00:35:56.000
I mean?

650
00:35:57.000 --> 00:36:01.239
Yeah, that's extremely strange and fair very unsettling. Are there

651
00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:04.920
a lot of missing person cases in that area?

652
00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:06.679
Yeah?

653
00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:10.719
Okay, and probably we don't want to go into nomes

654
00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:13.000
for respect and also for privacy.

655
00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:17.960
Yeah. Yeah, there's just high weirdness. There's some high weirdness,

656
00:36:17.960 --> 00:36:20.519
and then other people who aren't connected to it, or

657
00:36:20.519 --> 00:36:24.440
who don't aren't sensitive to it, would say no because

658
00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:27.480
they don't get out or they don't it's just anywhere

659
00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:30.440
you go. There is especially high weirdness here. I think

660
00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:33.360
because of the mountains that would be the correlation. I'd

661
00:36:33.400 --> 00:36:36.239
say there's more high weirdness here than there was where

662
00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:40.119
I grew up, way more. This is like a mecca.

663
00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:43.960
But I think it's connected to the Elk. I don't

664
00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:46.119
think it's anything else other than the elk. And I

665
00:36:46.159 --> 00:36:50.480
have a theory. They really want to manage animals, They

666
00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:54.400
really do the bigfootoo. Yeah, they think they are in

667
00:36:54.519 --> 00:36:57.119
charge and I just believe that the man was given

668
00:36:57.159 --> 00:37:00.519
dominion over all the creatures. I think they are competition.

669
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:04.360
We're competition for that. And I don't even think they

670
00:37:04.519 --> 00:37:07.360
use the same parts of the animal that we do.

671
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:09.599
It's really not competition. I think it has to do

672
00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:13.239
with different degrees of glory. I think it has something

673
00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:15.800
to do with things that are ancient, things that are

674
00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:19.400
beyond us that we don't know. I think it keeps

675
00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:21.920
our eyes on them. When we chase after them or

676
00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:24.679
we focus on them, we're glorifying them, and that's what

677
00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:28.199
they're looking for. I think that they know ways that

678
00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:32.280
we don't. I don't think they're like necessarily all evil.

679
00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:35.920
You'll hear about some savings. Some that's fine and dandy.

680
00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:38.639
Obviously they're able to procreate, but I don't know that

681
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:42.000
they Some people say that they see them and they

682
00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:44.920
look like they've lived forever. I don't know that they

683
00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:48.480
really can die. I don't know, And I don't know

684
00:37:48.519 --> 00:37:51.199
that they're all the way here either. But I know

685
00:37:51.320 --> 00:37:55.360
that they have supernatural gifts, and I know they've been

686
00:37:55.400 --> 00:37:59.159
around for a while, and I know that like in

687
00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:02.719
the LDS or Mormon religion, and it's not talked about.

688
00:38:03.159 --> 00:38:06.880
But some of the apostles have seen them and talked

689
00:38:06.880 --> 00:38:10.440
about them, the early pioneers, they've written, it's in history,

690
00:38:11.920 --> 00:38:15.840
and so it's the one occasion was like eighteen thirty five,

691
00:38:16.679 --> 00:38:18.280
when I don't really want to get too much into

692
00:38:18.360 --> 00:38:20.440
that because I'm not trying to say anything about that.

693
00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:23.920
I'm just saying that there's things that have been happening

694
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:28.559
for a long time. It's not just a recent thing, right.

695
00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:33.000
Oh absolutely, It's not just in the Mormon writing. There's

696
00:38:33.239 --> 00:38:37.360
multiple accounts in that time period, the eighteen hundreds of

697
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:42.239
wild man sightings all over the country. It's incredible.

698
00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:48.119
I know, yeah it is, But I think that I

699
00:38:48.199 --> 00:38:53.840
think that I don't know, they just master things. But

700
00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:56.320
I feel protected, like I know who I am. I

701
00:38:56.360 --> 00:38:58.119
know I'm like a child of God. I know that

702
00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:00.119
you know what I mean where I come from. I

703
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:02.599
know I do have dominion over animals. I'm not out

704
00:39:03.039 --> 00:39:08.239
bow hunting elk right now, like alone, I'm not in fear,

705
00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:11.599
but I haven't camped for a long time. But it

706
00:39:11.719 --> 00:39:16.360
does keep me. I'm careful, and I have an underwater

707
00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:19.679
whistle that I blow when they do the tree knocks.

708
00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:22.039
I'll notice there's a correlation to when they flush out

709
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:24.639
deer like I would. I heard a couple of years.

710
00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:26.920
Maybe it was the last year or the year before.

711
00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:31.320
I heard a tree knock when I pulled up to

712
00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:36.000
take my dogs out, and it was one, two and

713
00:39:36.039 --> 00:39:39.440
then three, and then I thought, okay, started walking back

714
00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:40.840
to my car. I was like, I'm not doing that

715
00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:44.679
well obviously, right, And then I look up and this

716
00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:47.280
hurd a deer got flushed out of the woods on

717
00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:50.039
the other side, and then they started running back up

718
00:39:50.119 --> 00:39:52.360
into the woods and they got flushed out again, and

719
00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:53.880
I'm like, are you kidding me?

720
00:39:54.039 --> 00:39:57.079
So there you're hearing tree knocks trade outside your house.

721
00:39:58.039 --> 00:40:02.679
No, this is just I went, it's about three miles away. Okay,

722
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:06.960
it's two ridges over. Yeah, cause take my dog somewhere

723
00:40:06.960 --> 00:40:10.320
else to go running where we're not because I'm in

724
00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:13.679
a neighborhood here by, I'm right outside a mountain. I'm

725
00:40:13.679 --> 00:40:16.679
looking at a mountain right now. But there's some neighbors,

726
00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:21.599
so I don't have any situations around my house to

727
00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:24.159
speak of. I know. The neighbors said that she saw

728
00:40:24.679 --> 00:40:26.639
someone in the garbage that was really big, with a

729
00:40:26.639 --> 00:40:30.079
big hood that ran really flat and I didn't ask

730
00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:33.000
any question. But other than that, there's just and I

731
00:40:33.039 --> 00:40:34.960
have chickens and stuff like that, so I don't even

732
00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:37.559
want I don't have any issues with them coming here.

733
00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:41.639
I don't have those issues. And I don't know. I

734
00:40:41.639 --> 00:40:44.679
don't even want to really talk because I don't want to.

735
00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:47.639
I don't want to conjure anything up.

736
00:40:48.119 --> 00:40:50.920
No, I guess you. I get that feeling where it's like,

737
00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:53.440
you want to be careful what you talk about. The

738
00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:55.599
area where you heard the tree knocks? Do you ever

739
00:40:55.679 --> 00:40:59.159
hear any other strange sounds out there that don't belong.

740
00:40:59.000 --> 00:41:02.559
Or yeah, okay, so here's something else and this I

741
00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:07.599
can't put together. And oh I have video too where

742
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:09.599
I started to record because I had to. And I

743
00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:11.440
came home and called my sister in Florida and said,

744
00:41:11.480 --> 00:41:13.079
oh my gosh, listen to this. She goes, I can

745
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:17.400
hear it. So what happened was I went up on

746
00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:20.400
this hill and there's this activity area. I don't want

747
00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:22.239
to name it out too much, but there's this activity

748
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:25.159
area which is not very populated because it's not very popular.

749
00:41:25.239 --> 00:41:27.800
There's other activity area people can go to, but anyhow,

750
00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:30.960
no one was out there. I took my dogs and

751
00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:34.039
I was ball launching and my dog sometimes she winds

752
00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:36.440
up the German shepherd. She gets excited over the balls,

753
00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:39.280
like a coonhound wood over a raccoon or something. It

754
00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:42.920
just is ridiculous, but she gets really excited and so

755
00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:45.400
she starts doing that sort of thing. But it's loud.

756
00:41:46.159 --> 00:41:48.880
So she was doing that and then until I released

757
00:41:48.880 --> 00:41:51.159
the ball and she can go run because when she's running,

758
00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:54.719
she can't scream anymore, right, so then she goes and runs.

759
00:41:55.119 --> 00:41:58.119
She did that a couple times, and right behind us

760
00:41:58.280 --> 00:42:00.679
in the woodline, and it wasn't very very far away.

761
00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:04.079
It was maybe twenty feet into the woodline. I heard

762
00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:10.559
this electronic like a backup, like a trailer, just a

763
00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:15.400
weird out of this world. It wasn't really a trailer backup.

764
00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:17.679
It wasn't mechanical, but it sounded like it. But it

765
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:21.679
was loud, okay, And I thought, what is that? And

766
00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:25.199
it would get loud and then dissipate, and then get

767
00:42:25.239 --> 00:42:30.679
loud and then dissipate, and then I heard little criest.

768
00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:33.840
I was tempted to go in and check on what

769
00:42:33.960 --> 00:42:36.760
it was, and I did not, and instead I turned

770
00:42:36.760 --> 00:42:39.920
on my phone and started recording, and I do have

771
00:42:40.280 --> 00:42:43.079
some of those cries and.

772
00:42:43.159 --> 00:42:47.639
You have that recorded. So were they like like baby cries.

773
00:42:47.480 --> 00:42:50.320
Or At first I thought it sounded like baby cries,

774
00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:53.239
but then I thought maybe it was an animal, like

775
00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:57.079
a calf or something. So I thought maybe it was

776
00:42:57.239 --> 00:43:02.159
an animal that was being asphyxiated. And I thought, but gosh,

777
00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:08.960
why that timing. Why did that weird electronic noise spark

778
00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:13.000
up when my dog was making that weird noise. It's

779
00:43:13.079 --> 00:43:16.880
like it got attracted to it and then started doing

780
00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:20.360
its thing. It was weird, really weird, and I do

781
00:43:20.440 --> 00:43:23.719
have it. I have a recording and it has the

782
00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:26.320
little cries. You can hear them. It's not loud like

783
00:43:26.440 --> 00:43:31.159
being there, but you can still hear it. And towards

784
00:43:31.239 --> 00:43:34.679
the end it sounded like maybe it was a baby

785
00:43:34.719 --> 00:43:39.400
deer or a full grown one. But I went back

786
00:43:39.440 --> 00:43:44.440
in there, huh, I don't know why. A few weeks later,

787
00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:50.639
there was a big elk bone just laying right out

788
00:43:50.719 --> 00:43:54.840
in the open where it shouldn't be. And I've took

789
00:43:54.840 --> 00:43:57.639
that as a warning, you know what I mean. But

790
00:43:57.679 --> 00:44:02.480
there was no dead elk carcass or carry on inside

791
00:44:03.000 --> 00:44:06.559
or anything. So another time I went out in the

792
00:44:06.599 --> 00:44:10.360
same area. I show up. It's in the afternoon. I

793
00:44:10.440 --> 00:44:12.880
get my dogs out, and all of a sudden, I

794
00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:19.719
hear that loud beeping like electronic, but it wasn't in

795
00:44:19.719 --> 00:44:23.559
the woodline. It was down. It was like, I don't know,

796
00:44:24.280 --> 00:44:28.480
it was super loud, like almost like an alarm, like

797
00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:32.440
almost in This is going to sound a little bit crazy,

798
00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:34.880
but you know that one thing that they show like

799
00:44:36.280 --> 00:44:38.440
they say that they see and it's like this tall

800
00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:40.840
thing that they call like radiohead or something like that.

801
00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:45.960
Oh yeah, yep, that it sounded like that.

802
00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:46.719
Really.

803
00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:50.159
I got into my car and left. Yes, oh man,

804
00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:55.920
it was a electronic loud alarm sound, and no one

805
00:44:56.079 --> 00:45:01.000
was around, and I'm just like, this is nuts. And

806
00:45:01.039 --> 00:45:04.280
there was a vibration. You could feel a vibration, but

807
00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:06.880
it was just there was no reason for it because

808
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:10.639
there's no alarms there. There's nothing there.

809
00:45:11.000 --> 00:45:14.920
When you're saying you feel a vibration, can you so

810
00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:18.239
you were feeling it like like it was affecting you

811
00:45:18.360 --> 00:45:20.679
or can you describe a little bit more of what

812
00:45:20.719 --> 00:45:21.400
you mean by that.

813
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:28.519
So the noise was loud, but it resonated like a vibration. Okay,

814
00:45:29.360 --> 00:45:34.840
So it felt you could feel a vibration, like like physically,

815
00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:38.519
I don't remember physically putting my hand on anything and

816
00:45:38.559 --> 00:45:41.519
feeling a vibration, but you could feel that it was

817
00:45:41.559 --> 00:45:45.519
a vibration somehow. I don't know how to explain it,

818
00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:47.239
just that it was a vibration.

819
00:45:47.480 --> 00:45:50.199
Did your emotional state change it all during that time?

820
00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:54.960
I have what happens when stuff like that happens is

821
00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:59.039
I do the flight yeap, And so I get mad

822
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:03.840
and do the flight okay. And so when that happens

823
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:06.519
what happened, What I will say happens is I get sick,

824
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:11.199
but my emotions don't. I don't want to I don't

825
00:46:11.239 --> 00:46:14.599
want to go then investigate because I know that it's

826
00:46:14.920 --> 00:46:18.400
something probably bad, something looks and I know that it's

827
00:46:18.400 --> 00:46:22.320
a warning to me. Just I feel like anytime I've

828
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:25.239
dealt with this stuff, even with that cow elk with

829
00:46:25.320 --> 00:46:29.599
the calf, it's like always a warning. And here's one

830
00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:32.199
more thing I have to tell you. So on that

831
00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:38.639
same trail, right after that cow elk sing happened, my

832
00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:40.679
dogs and I will go down this trail and this

833
00:46:40.719 --> 00:46:43.679
is where I found this old pickaxe. It was just awesome.

834
00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:46.440
I still have it. But we go down this really

835
00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:50.920
steep trail and there's no trees where we go. You

836
00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:53.239
have to go up the mountain up on top because

837
00:46:53.320 --> 00:46:57.400
it's just covered with there's old mining stuff, not stuff,

838
00:46:57.440 --> 00:47:02.360
but like the ground is not. There's no trees till

839
00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:04.320
you get up on top, and then there's trees everywhere

840
00:47:04.360 --> 00:47:08.880
galoreb So I went in one day and this tree

841
00:47:08.920 --> 00:47:14.119
that was about ten foot twelve foot tall was laying

842
00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:17.320
right there. It had been ripped off and it probably

843
00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:22.159
had about I don't know, eight inch ten inch circumference,

844
00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:27.920
healthy tree, perfectly healthy. I have pictures, and I thought,

845
00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:31.599
what broke that off? And through it here? Because you

846
00:47:31.719 --> 00:47:35.079
can't you have to bring it there? And why is

847
00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:36.840
it right here where I walk? And why is it

848
00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:42.000
broke off? It wasn't It wasn't axed or chainsawed, it

849
00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:47.320
wasn't sod so it was ripped and the bark was

850
00:47:47.400 --> 00:47:51.320
broken around it. It was a brand new tree. So

851
00:47:51.360 --> 00:47:55.840
it's like something through it there, like stay away from here,

852
00:47:56.400 --> 00:47:58.800
you know what I mean? It's right right where we go.

853
00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:00.199
We are always right there.

854
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:05.239
Absolutely. That one area sounds extremely weird. I don't know

855
00:48:05.440 --> 00:48:09.480
how often I would go there by myself, to be honest, No,

856
00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:13.360
there's just some really weird stuff that you're experiencing in

857
00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:18.079
whatever this one area is. And you said earlier that

858
00:48:18.400 --> 00:48:21.760
this town has a lot of high strangeness in it,

859
00:48:21.840 --> 00:48:31.159
So is there other stuff going on besides Bigfoot? And

860
00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:33.760
if you don't want to get into it, I totally

861
00:48:33.760 --> 00:48:35.239
respect that and we can move on.

862
00:48:35.360 --> 00:48:40.760
There's a lot of suicides, okay, gotcha. And one was

863
00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:44.599
just in the woods, oh boy, and it was a

864
00:48:44.599 --> 00:48:48.760
big deal, so just a month ago. Yeah, it was

865
00:48:48.880 --> 00:48:52.039
a local pastor, oh hear. But I don't think. I

866
00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:54.360
don't tie that to anything. I'm sure as family, so

867
00:48:54.400 --> 00:48:57.400
it was. But other than that, there's young a lot

868
00:48:57.440 --> 00:49:00.599
of young suicides. And I don't want to speak for

869
00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:03.280
anyone else because there was also an incident which was

870
00:49:03.320 --> 00:49:07.360
weird and I think I can't remember his name, but

871
00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:11.039
there was a podcast that was done on this kid

872
00:49:11.079 --> 00:49:14.679
that I know who his mom is, but he just

873
00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:20.360
had called her and then someone was pursuing him or

874
00:49:20.360 --> 00:49:23.199
something and then they found him up on a guld

875
00:49:24.320 --> 00:49:28.199
but nobody knows. But then right before that, there was

876
00:49:28.239 --> 00:49:33.880
like two suicides which were really odd type that just

877
00:49:33.920 --> 00:49:38.119
sounds like it's more humans bad behavior. Maybe if there

878
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:40.800
was some sort of thing going on that wasn't. There's

879
00:49:40.880 --> 00:49:43.119
just a lot of speculation as to whether they were

880
00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:46.519
or not. But I don't know. I don't know those

881
00:49:46.599 --> 00:49:49.800
situations or if there's anything to those, and I just

882
00:49:49.880 --> 00:49:53.559
try to stay away from that because I think if

883
00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:56.079
you get caught up, and that's the type of spirit

884
00:49:56.119 --> 00:49:59.199
you don't want to be friendly with, because you know

885
00:49:59.239 --> 00:50:00.360
who needs to be pressed.

886
00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:02.960
Yeah, and I get that. Are there also a lot

887
00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:06.280
of UFO sightings or things like that in the same area.

888
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:12.159
There's there's so many mountains, it's there's not a lot

889
00:50:12.199 --> 00:50:17.000
of there's sky, but it's I don't know. I'm not sure. Okay,

890
00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:22.679
I haven't had any, but I wouldn't be surprised. But

891
00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:27.920
I know that when there was an avalanche and there

892
00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:30.199
was a couple of years ago and there was a

893
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:33.480
doctor who died and then they had the helicopter go

894
00:50:33.639 --> 00:50:38.840
up and rescue didn't rescue. God recovered the body. And

895
00:50:39.320 --> 00:50:41.800
so there was a big thing that went around the

896
00:50:41.880 --> 00:50:44.920
coyotes are out, keep your dogs in. They're going crazy.

897
00:50:44.920 --> 00:50:47.760
They're going crazy. And I was listening to them and

898
00:50:47.840 --> 00:50:51.440
they those were not coyotes. It's all it It wasn't

899
00:50:51.719 --> 00:50:57.159
a like feeble attempt to make coyote howls, but that

900
00:50:57.360 --> 00:51:01.360
was I figured it was something else make trying to

901
00:51:01.360 --> 00:51:04.000
sound like coyotes. And they were angry over those helicopters

902
00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:08.239
because it was right when they were doing that stuff up, there.

903
00:51:08.360 --> 00:51:11.320
Was it because the sound of it was much louder.

904
00:51:11.440 --> 00:51:13.360
What were the main things that tipped you off that

905
00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:14.800
it wasn't actually kyotes?

906
00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:17.760
I grew up around coyotes, so I can almost imitate

907
00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:21.639
a coyote, you can call them in. But they didn't.

908
00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:27.480
It was louder and more they carried on more extended

909
00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:32.199
out the howl, and it took different like tones. It

910
00:51:32.280 --> 00:51:35.559
just didn't. It didn't sound like. It wasn't a coyote.

911
00:51:35.760 --> 00:51:38.840
It was like trying to sound like a kyote, but

912
00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:41.360
it didn't. There's no coyote that ever sounded like that.

913
00:51:41.800 --> 00:51:45.239
I've never heard a coyote make those sounds. At some

914
00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:48.079
point they sounded similar to kyote, and then they would

915
00:51:48.119 --> 00:51:50.280
extend it out and it would go too far, and

916
00:51:50.360 --> 00:51:54.239
then it would change tone. That's not coyote. Someone imitated,

917
00:51:54.559 --> 00:51:57.000
but it's too loud to be a person. You see

918
00:51:57.000 --> 00:52:00.440
what I mean? Yeah, it's hard to explain, I did

919
00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:03.159
try to record it out my front window or my

920
00:52:03.199 --> 00:52:05.920
front door, because you could hear it, but I couldn't

921
00:52:05.960 --> 00:52:10.840
capture it. But I did capture those those noises from

922
00:52:10.920 --> 00:52:14.000
the cries in the woodline, and I just think that's

923
00:52:14.039 --> 00:52:18.239
really close to dogs and a person to be killing

924
00:52:18.320 --> 00:52:20.639
if it was a predator, what are the chances it

925
00:52:20.719 --> 00:52:23.480
was killing something that was crying out like that that

926
00:52:23.559 --> 00:52:26.280
close to me to where I could record it, you

927
00:52:26.280 --> 00:52:26.719
know what I mean.

928
00:52:26.880 --> 00:52:29.760
Or even another way to look at it is places

929
00:52:29.880 --> 00:52:35.559
like Southeast Alaska they talk about how they hear cries

930
00:52:35.599 --> 00:52:38.480
in the woods and it's a way that the hairy

931
00:52:38.519 --> 00:52:43.000
man is trying to lure people into the woods because

932
00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:46.480
they're going to see see if there's a baby in trouble,

933
00:52:46.519 --> 00:52:50.840
and usually this is there's like a there's a woman involved,

934
00:52:51.480 --> 00:52:53.800
like they often know that if they use this type

935
00:52:53.840 --> 00:52:56.400
of baby cry, they have a better chance of getting

936
00:52:56.440 --> 00:52:59.239
them lured into the woods. So it's just that kind

937
00:52:59.239 --> 00:53:01.880
of came to mind when I was hearing your story

938
00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:02.440
as well.

939
00:53:02.519 --> 00:53:06.760
That's good. That's good because my dreams from even before

940
00:53:06.800 --> 00:53:11.599
this happened are about me rescuing little kids or animals

941
00:53:12.079 --> 00:53:14.880
and trying to keep them safe. What is that about?

942
00:53:14.880 --> 00:53:17.840
And then I'm in the woods and these sounds come out,

943
00:53:17.840 --> 00:53:20.920
and you would think that I would go and rescue them,

944
00:53:20.920 --> 00:53:24.800
but I don't because I don't trust because I saw

945
00:53:24.840 --> 00:53:28.840
one when I was young, and I know that they're there.

946
00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:33.639
I don't know what they are. I don't know how

947
00:53:33.920 --> 00:53:37.159
dangerous they are. I think that they have a I

948
00:53:37.159 --> 00:53:41.239
think there's stipulations to their existence. I think that they're

949
00:53:41.239 --> 00:53:45.400
not supposed to mess with us, and that's I truly

950
00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:50.320
believe that. I believe there's various degrees of glory, and

951
00:53:50.400 --> 00:53:54.039
I believe that we're here for a purpose, there for

952
00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:57.960
another purpose, and our world's collide. But they're not supposed

953
00:53:58.000 --> 00:53:59.880
to mess with us. But I do believe they're jal

954
00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:04.800
of us. And it's obviously not because we have wonderful skills,

955
00:54:04.840 --> 00:54:09.320
because they outclass this one hundred percent. But somehow they

956
00:54:09.400 --> 00:54:13.320
are always trying to prove that they are in charge

957
00:54:13.360 --> 00:54:16.039
of the animals, and I don't know what that's about.

958
00:54:16.199 --> 00:54:19.639
It's a really interesting viewpoint. I really haven't heard a

959
00:54:19.639 --> 00:54:22.960
lot on when I've been doing interviews over the last

960
00:54:23.079 --> 00:54:26.440
few years, so I'm curious to ask you, how is

961
00:54:26.480 --> 00:54:30.519
it that you view these creatures like, how would you

962
00:54:30.559 --> 00:54:32.199
describe what a bigfoot is?

963
00:54:32.239 --> 00:54:37.119
Then anytime I hear anybody start to get into the hole, Oh,

964
00:54:37.159 --> 00:54:39.840
they could survive in the wild, and this could be

965
00:54:39.880 --> 00:54:42.480
there forge for this and they could live there, I

966
00:54:42.599 --> 00:54:44.599
just want to laugh because I know they're not here

967
00:54:44.639 --> 00:54:48.800
all the time. They're not like that. I'm not they

968
00:54:48.840 --> 00:54:54.480
can't hear. They're not like a bear or organic. They're

969
00:54:54.480 --> 00:54:58.000
not of this earth like we are. They're like on

970
00:54:58.119 --> 00:55:02.239
a different They're in a different place. And I'm not

971
00:55:02.280 --> 00:55:06.519
saying they don't manifest physically, but I think they've I

972
00:55:06.559 --> 00:55:09.599
think we've heard enough about them, at least in folklore

973
00:55:09.679 --> 00:55:12.840
and also in literature, and also in sightings, which isn't folklore,

974
00:55:13.840 --> 00:55:16.159
to where we know that they do things we don't

975
00:55:16.559 --> 00:55:18.440
know how to do. But I don't think they're special.

976
00:55:18.480 --> 00:55:21.599
I think they want to be worshiped, and I think

977
00:55:21.639 --> 00:55:25.000
they want to worship could be anything. We've got bigfoot

978
00:55:25.320 --> 00:55:29.480
pictures and people focus on them and make money off.

979
00:55:29.360 --> 00:55:33.199
It statues in some towns even Yeah, it's very interesting

980
00:55:33.239 --> 00:55:34.880
to think about that way. You think there could be

981
00:55:34.880 --> 00:55:36.599
maybe portals involved or.

982
00:55:37.800 --> 00:55:41.760
Yeah, whatever that is. There are people that know so

983
00:55:41.920 --> 00:55:44.039
much more about that, And I think I have an idea,

984
00:55:44.599 --> 00:55:47.079
but it seems every time I get into that or

985
00:55:47.159 --> 00:55:50.079
talk about it, I have I just I go it

986
00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:53.360
just it doesn't sit well because I feel like I'm

987
00:55:53.719 --> 00:55:56.760
too vulnerable. I don't like it to affect my I

988
00:55:56.840 --> 00:56:00.280
really just like to live here and out like I

989
00:56:00.320 --> 00:56:02.800
find pleasure in things like how cute those elk were

990
00:56:02.840 --> 00:56:03.800
doing that? You know what I mean?

991
00:56:03.960 --> 00:56:04.400
Exactly?

992
00:56:04.440 --> 00:56:07.159
I find pleasure in taking care of my chickens and

993
00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:10.000
the cute stuff they do, my dogs, my grandkids. There's

994
00:56:10.039 --> 00:56:12.400
just so much to enjoy in this world. I really

995
00:56:12.480 --> 00:56:17.159
do enjoy things, absolutely, But whenever I deal with that

996
00:56:17.400 --> 00:56:20.199
part of things, even from a really young age, I

997
00:56:20.239 --> 00:56:25.199
feel like they just put a lot of terror and

998
00:56:25.639 --> 00:56:30.840
worry and stress and just they make you worry. I

999
00:56:30.840 --> 00:56:33.320
can't even go out hiking without hearing them call my

1000
00:56:33.360 --> 00:56:35.199
dog's name. You know what I mean? Yeah, I can.

1001
00:56:35.320 --> 00:56:38.159
They don't call it every time, but or a ball disappears,

1002
00:56:38.159 --> 00:56:40.199
and it's when you least suspect it, and then you

1003
00:56:40.559 --> 00:56:43.559
get all these balls where you've never been. You go

1004
00:56:43.639 --> 00:56:46.000
picking and there's all the balls in perfect shape, and

1005
00:56:46.039 --> 00:56:49.320
they're your balls. You've been missing them. In fact, when

1006
00:56:49.320 --> 00:56:52.880
I was texting that roommate about hearing her call out

1007
00:56:52.880 --> 00:56:54.960
my dog's name, I said, oh, and I lost two

1008
00:56:54.960 --> 00:57:00.559
balls somehow too. She's oh, no, just to highlight how

1009
00:57:00.559 --> 00:57:02.639
often this happens, and it's Oh, maybe they go into

1010
00:57:02.679 --> 00:57:07.039
the highways, Sherry. Maybe maybe the coyotes grab them and

1011
00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:10.280
mob them around and put them together in one place.

1012
00:57:10.400 --> 00:57:14.239
I don't know. Maybe homeless people that are coming into

1013
00:57:14.239 --> 00:57:16.639
the woods now more and more, maybe they're doing so.

1014
00:57:16.679 --> 00:57:19.280
I don't know, but I do know that that there

1015
00:57:19.320 --> 00:57:22.519
was a message to me with that elk, and there's

1016
00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:28.000
been several messages to me. And the more, the more

1017
00:57:28.199 --> 00:57:33.199
experiences I have, it turns different. It becomes it's become

1018
00:57:33.360 --> 00:57:38.519
scarier because of those electronic sounds. And if I didn't

1019
00:57:38.559 --> 00:57:42.320
have my dogs with me, I just don't think my

1020
00:57:42.400 --> 00:57:44.400
cell phone is to like that. If I didn't have

1021
00:57:44.480 --> 00:57:46.880
my dogs with me, I wouldn't probably go where I'm

1022
00:57:46.880 --> 00:57:50.519
going and stuff, but I just wouldn't feel as safe.

1023
00:57:50.679 --> 00:57:52.800
And I also am concerned about my dogs. I don't

1024
00:57:52.840 --> 00:57:54.599
let them out of my sight and we stay in

1025
00:57:54.639 --> 00:57:56.519
open areas. I don't let them go into the wood

1026
00:57:57.440 --> 00:57:58.920
like I used to. We used to go into the

1027
00:57:58.920 --> 00:58:01.239
brush and things, and then I was finding all those

1028
00:58:01.239 --> 00:58:04.400
bones and stuff and then hearing those calls. It's just

1029
00:58:04.639 --> 00:58:07.360
it's creepy. It's creepy anyways, because sometimes where we go

1030
00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:10.960
you'll find cachets where mountain lion have buried some bones

1031
00:58:11.000 --> 00:58:13.199
and stuff too, you know what I mean, So you

1032
00:58:13.239 --> 00:58:16.000
can you get a little bit of creepiness there. So

1033
00:58:17.480 --> 00:58:18.840
there's creepiness anyhow.

1034
00:58:18.880 --> 00:58:22.360
But has something called your dog's name multiple times? Or

1035
00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:23.400
is it just the one time?

1036
00:58:24.360 --> 00:58:25.920
Thank god, just that one time.

1037
00:58:26.039 --> 00:58:30.360
Okay, that's still weird, though, Yeah, isn't it? It's super weird.

1038
00:58:30.719 --> 00:58:32.800
My dog perked up its ears and looked.

1039
00:58:33.719 --> 00:58:35.280
I don't know if I would go back to that place,

1040
00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:38.079
to be honest, just talking personally like that would weird

1041
00:58:38.159 --> 00:58:38.559
me out.

1042
00:58:39.880 --> 00:58:45.760
She almost turned and went that direction, but she didn't

1043
00:58:45.880 --> 00:58:51.360
because she was with me. Was like, isn't that weird?

1044
00:58:51.840 --> 00:58:55.119
It's it's super weird. Yeah. What's the most recent time

1045
00:58:55.159 --> 00:58:59.719
that you've had a dream that included something to do

1046
00:58:59.800 --> 00:59:03.079
with bigfoot? I don't know.

1047
00:59:03.800 --> 00:59:07.159
I've had some. I guess I had a bad dream

1048
00:59:07.400 --> 00:59:09.599
a couple months ago and I woke up and said,

1049
00:59:09.599 --> 00:59:13.239
oh my gosh, I remember waking up going what a

1050
00:59:13.320 --> 00:59:17.760
horrible dream, But it was more about just being concerned

1051
00:59:17.800 --> 00:59:23.000
about babies and stuff and little animal. Isn't that weird?

1052
00:59:23.639 --> 00:59:28.599
Yeah, No, it's very out of the ordinary for sure. Yeah.

1053
00:59:28.960 --> 00:59:33.119
Yeah, I just think that maybe that's my I think

1054
00:59:33.199 --> 00:59:37.840
that they observe obviously, they're called watchers, right, and I

1055
00:59:37.880 --> 00:59:40.800
think they can find your weakness and they pick up

1056
00:59:40.800 --> 00:59:44.000
on it. I don't believe that they can read your mind.

1057
00:59:44.119 --> 00:59:48.440
I think they're clever. I think they are claiboyant at

1058
00:59:48.480 --> 00:59:52.880
reading your actions, and so it seems like there can

1059
00:59:52.920 --> 00:59:55.320
read your mind. I believe that only God can read

1060
00:59:55.320 --> 00:59:58.519
your mind. I think that they can put things into

1061
00:59:58.519 --> 01:00:01.400
your mind, though, But I don't believe that they can

1062
01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:05.559
read your mind. And that's just my belief. But I

1063
01:00:05.679 --> 01:00:07.960
just think that they pick up on your weaknesses and

1064
01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:09.800
the things that you know, if you're going out there

1065
01:00:09.880 --> 01:00:12.280
enough and it's like almost every day like I'm out there,

1066
01:00:12.320 --> 01:00:14.440
you know what I mean, So there's been a lot

1067
01:00:14.480 --> 01:00:18.519
of reading of me. If that's what they're doing, I'm

1068
01:00:18.559 --> 01:00:21.840
just even talking about it. I feel like we're it's

1069
01:00:21.880 --> 01:00:25.800
like a sideline or a sidebar conversation. It's I don't

1070
01:00:25.800 --> 01:00:28.360
know how much I don't know how much I want

1071
01:00:28.400 --> 01:00:30.920
to give to it, because I don't think they're worth

1072
01:00:31.000 --> 01:00:33.239
any of it. I know that that they've existed for

1073
01:00:33.280 --> 01:00:35.119
a long time. I know there's a ramp up in

1074
01:00:35.159 --> 01:00:39.519
their importance. I think that they're dangerous. I think they're unclean.

1075
01:00:40.119 --> 01:00:43.800
I notice that people just an observation. People that get

1076
01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:49.599
terrorized physically by them, like in person scared. I think

1077
01:00:49.639 --> 01:00:54.239
they read that situation as well. I think they get

1078
01:00:54.360 --> 01:00:57.119
entertained by other people and then mess with them like

1079
01:00:57.159 --> 01:01:01.679
that whole having bad dreams and things like that. I

1080
01:01:01.800 --> 01:01:04.880
know that in some of the accounts from one of

1081
01:01:04.920 --> 01:01:09.559
the apostles for the y LDS Church, whatever it was

1082
01:01:09.639 --> 01:01:12.440
that talked to him, the big hairy creature whatever it was,

1083
01:01:12.559 --> 01:01:15.800
had said that he was there to destroy human souls

1084
01:01:18.000 --> 01:01:20.400
and that it was a miserable, that he was miserable

1085
01:01:20.440 --> 01:01:24.119
and couldn't die. And of course there's folklore too. I

1086
01:01:24.159 --> 01:01:26.800
believe there were accounts, but I don't know how they

1087
01:01:26.920 --> 01:01:29.400
change throughout time. I'm just not really open to know

1088
01:01:29.559 --> 01:01:32.559
that things change, And some of the older accounts don't

1089
01:01:32.599 --> 01:01:35.599
sound like the more recent accounts. But I know that

1090
01:01:35.679 --> 01:01:40.039
Bigfoot sure hasn't evolved much they're they're not wearing sandals,

1091
01:01:40.039 --> 01:01:44.679
and they're not They don't evolve at all. They're timeless.

1092
01:01:44.800 --> 01:01:49.840
They stay where they're at. Whereas we evolved, we change

1093
01:01:50.199 --> 01:01:54.159
and we progress, So there's something to that. They are

1094
01:01:54.440 --> 01:01:58.199
not equipped to evolve. They have what they have, and

1095
01:01:58.239 --> 01:02:01.719
they come in and out of our realm. And I

1096
01:02:01.760 --> 01:02:03.440
guess if you don't go in the woods, you don't

1097
01:02:03.440 --> 01:02:04.880
have to deal with them. But they're there.

1098
01:02:06.199 --> 01:02:10.440
Makes you wonder where they're going back to after they

1099
01:02:10.480 --> 01:02:14.000
come to our areas and then they go somewhere else.

1100
01:02:14.039 --> 01:02:15.559
Where is it they're going back to?

1101
01:02:15.760 --> 01:02:18.039
Yeah, it does. And also when people say that they've

1102
01:02:18.119 --> 01:02:21.199
killed them, it makes you wonder how much of that

1103
01:02:21.320 --> 01:02:23.599
is true? And then what does that mean? If someone's

1104
01:02:23.679 --> 01:02:26.400
killed one, what happens to their Do they have a soul?

1105
01:02:26.440 --> 01:02:28.719
And if they have a soul, do they get reborn again?

1106
01:02:28.800 --> 01:02:32.480
Because some people believe that they can't ever die. Like

1107
01:02:33.159 --> 01:02:37.000
who cares? Like all these things are so mystifying and

1108
01:02:37.079 --> 01:02:41.599
so curious that we could get stuck on them and

1109
01:02:41.639 --> 01:02:45.199
not have our focus somewhere else. I just really believe

1110
01:02:45.239 --> 01:02:47.960
that it's dangerous, at least for someone like me who's

1111
01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:53.119
been so imprinted and here's the problem. Anywhere I go,

1112
01:02:53.719 --> 01:02:55.800
I can go anywhere I go. I love the country

1113
01:02:55.880 --> 01:02:59.199
anywhere I go. I guess when I was in North Dakota,

1114
01:03:00.440 --> 01:03:04.360
I didn't feel like there were no trees, but what

1115
01:03:04.440 --> 01:03:08.159
we went through there and one of the tribal members

1116
01:03:09.400 --> 01:03:12.079
had a heart attack when they had the sighting it

1117
01:03:12.159 --> 01:03:15.320
had gone on. If you look up, I don't know

1118
01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:17.360
someone and I don't know if it was the Bigfoot.

1119
01:03:17.760 --> 01:03:21.719
What's the group called that does the investigations, beautif Real

1120
01:03:22.559 --> 01:03:25.639
beau for Yeah, I think they did investigation. But I

1121
01:03:25.679 --> 01:03:31.559
had also because I lived there, my daughter works closely there.

1122
01:03:31.599 --> 01:03:34.880
And one of the elders had a heart attack when

1123
01:03:34.920 --> 01:03:37.360
they saw it. But some of the ladies had seen

1124
01:03:37.400 --> 01:03:42.159
it out on the ice on the saka Quia La Sokakoea.

1125
01:03:42.360 --> 01:03:44.440
I just I hear about things and I like to

1126
01:03:44.440 --> 01:03:46.880
investigate too. There was a time when I was trying

1127
01:03:46.880 --> 01:03:49.360
to put it together. But since I've been here and

1128
01:03:49.519 --> 01:03:52.559
had these things going on, and I've put it together,

1129
01:03:52.599 --> 01:03:55.280
I'm like, oh, I see what's going on. It's trying

1130
01:03:55.320 --> 01:03:58.440
to get me. The more you look and the more

1131
01:03:58.559 --> 01:04:02.119
you know, you hear about people's teaking them out. No

1132
01:04:02.159 --> 01:04:06.320
one ever gets anywhere with it. It's a treasure hunt.

1133
01:04:06.320 --> 01:04:07.039
It's fruitless.

1134
01:04:07.320 --> 01:04:11.559
It's a treasure hunt that for most people goes on

1135
01:04:11.719 --> 01:04:16.840
forever and hopefully it'll go somewhere in our lifetime. But

1136
01:04:16.880 --> 01:04:19.920
for a lot of people it really doesn't. It can

1137
01:04:20.119 --> 01:04:24.519
become all consuming. There's a few people that have said that,

1138
01:04:24.719 --> 01:04:27.320
has there been any reports in your area where they've

1139
01:04:27.320 --> 01:04:33.199
been like particularly aggressive reports or just reports of more

1140
01:04:33.239 --> 01:04:34.079
high strangeness.

1141
01:04:34.760 --> 01:04:39.440
So where I'm at, we don't really report things much

1142
01:04:39.519 --> 01:04:42.559
obviously because we thought like somebody did call when like

1143
01:04:43.159 --> 01:04:45.920
I heard the neighbors and it's fireworks, and you think

1144
01:04:45.920 --> 01:04:48.840
there's just not a lot of We're just more to ourselves.

1145
01:04:48.920 --> 01:04:51.719
It's all over. If you go toward even more south

1146
01:04:51.840 --> 01:04:56.119
and stuff, it's pretty okay. So, for instance, even when

1147
01:04:56.119 --> 01:04:59.239
I went to physical therapy, the gals, oh, yeah, I

1148
01:04:59.280 --> 01:05:01.639
see and I can't say the town, but there's several

1149
01:05:01.639 --> 01:05:04.280
towns around, you know what I mean. But it's anyways,

1150
01:05:05.000 --> 01:05:07.519
she goes. When I came into town, I saw one

1151
01:05:07.559 --> 01:05:12.480
walking and then we had the owner of the place

1152
01:05:12.559 --> 01:05:14.519
was like yeah, blah blah blah blah blah. And then

1153
01:05:14.920 --> 01:05:17.000
I'm talking to another kid and he's yeah, we just

1154
01:05:17.920 --> 01:05:21.159
had a deer hanging and they were out on one

1155
01:05:21.199 --> 01:05:24.800
of the ravines. I don't want to give away where

1156
01:05:24.800 --> 01:05:27.719
I'm at, but I probably have already. But anyhow, and

1157
01:05:27.760 --> 01:05:31.760
the the Bigfoot kept coming by, smacking, like I said,

1158
01:05:31.920 --> 01:05:35.960
kept smacking their house and their vehicles and stuff because

1159
01:05:35.960 --> 01:05:38.000
it was mad because they had this thing hanging out there.

1160
01:05:38.559 --> 01:05:40.800
But it had been hunting season. Like, they don't like

1161
01:05:41.400 --> 01:05:44.199
your trophy. They don't like you to hang it. You're

1162
01:05:44.239 --> 01:05:46.159
not hanging it to show, but to them that's what

1163
01:05:46.199 --> 01:05:48.440
it is. It's almost like they put those bones out

1164
01:05:48.480 --> 01:05:51.840
and line them up like they're the big trophy people.

1165
01:05:51.960 --> 01:05:54.440
They're in control of the animal. No, you're not. And

1166
01:05:54.480 --> 01:05:57.719
if you read the Bible, obviously right Genesis, it talks

1167
01:05:57.760 --> 01:05:59.840
about if you do tie it back to this mind.

1168
01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:02.079
I'm not saying that they are Cain, Okay, I'm just

1169
01:06:02.119 --> 01:06:06.639
saying there's a certain theme, common theme. There's like this,

1170
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they're of the same vein. Something's there because Cain. The

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01:06:11.840 --> 01:06:14.280
reason Cain killed Abel with a rock, you know how

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01:06:14.320 --> 01:06:17.360
they like to throw their rock. Killed Able with the

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01:06:17.440 --> 01:06:19.800
rock was he was jealous of him. The reason he

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01:06:19.880 --> 01:06:22.519
was jealous of him. In the Bible, it says that

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Abel was a farmer. He was a shepherd type. He

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01:06:26.440 --> 01:06:29.000
was a husbandry of animals. He was in charge of

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01:06:29.159 --> 01:06:34.400
actual souls animals, and Cain was a dirt tiller. He

1178
01:06:34.519 --> 01:06:37.519
was a farmer, but he was not in charge of animals.

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He could, he wasn't. That was not his degree of glory.

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01:06:41.840 --> 01:06:44.119
So when it came time to give the offering, and

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01:06:44.199 --> 01:06:48.199
it's in the Bible, these are just my words. In scripture,

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01:06:48.320 --> 01:06:56.880
it says that the Lord was not happy with Cain's sacrifice.

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01:06:56.960 --> 01:07:01.480
He was happy with abels, and that's why Cain killed Abel.

1184
01:07:01.880 --> 01:07:05.400
Abel was in charge of animals. Animals are of a

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01:07:05.480 --> 01:07:10.280
higher spirit. They're more sentient than plants, you know what

1186
01:07:10.360 --> 01:07:14.880
I mean, if you're going to give an offering. So

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01:07:15.880 --> 01:07:18.199
I just feel like it has to do with glory.

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01:07:18.400 --> 01:07:21.280
I know that sounds really far out there, but it's

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01:07:21.440 --> 01:07:24.679
just I'm not saying it's direct. I'm just saying, going

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01:07:24.760 --> 01:07:31.280
on that same theme, somehow it ties into their need

1191
01:07:31.880 --> 01:07:36.079
to be in charge of animals, and it's ridiculous.

1192
01:07:36.800 --> 01:07:43.679
That's interesting. Yeah, that is. I hear a lot of

1193
01:07:43.719 --> 01:07:46.360
different theories on the show, and I would have to

1194
01:07:46.400 --> 01:07:49.199
say that is a very unique one. It's interesting to

1195
01:07:49.199 --> 01:07:52.960
think about though. I've talked to another guy from this area,

1196
01:07:53.119 --> 01:07:55.760
and Okay, there's some weird stuff that goes on in

1197
01:07:56.519 --> 01:08:00.400
U where I think we might be talking. But and

1198
01:08:00.599 --> 01:08:06.119
this has been a really interesting chat about. I feel

1199
01:08:06.199 --> 01:08:09.000
things are going to continue to happen in your area.

1200
01:08:09.199 --> 01:08:12.119
Oh, I know, and I do have to scale back,

1201
01:08:12.119 --> 01:08:15.079
and I agree with you, just so you know, I

1202
01:08:15.159 --> 01:08:19.279
know that they're going to increase. I know, I know

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01:08:19.359 --> 01:08:20.880
that they will. Even though I pray when I go

1204
01:08:20.880 --> 01:08:22.279
out there and stuff, the fact that I go out

1205
01:08:22.279 --> 01:08:26.319
there almost feels like I'm returning to the warrant, you

1206
01:08:26.359 --> 01:08:29.319
know what I mean, Like there's it's it's already been ruined.

1207
01:08:30.239 --> 01:08:32.479
So I've got to find a new place to go.

1208
01:08:32.520 --> 01:08:35.199
But I have to go out of where I'm at,

1209
01:08:35.479 --> 01:08:39.920
out of the area, because it's all over it's there's.

1210
01:08:40.279 --> 01:08:45.479
You can go twenty miles and it's still there around

1211
01:08:45.640 --> 01:08:46.439
I'm not kidding.

1212
01:08:47.520 --> 01:08:50.399
The just interactions with the creature all over the place

1213
01:08:50.640 --> 01:08:50.960
up there.

1214
01:08:51.000 --> 01:08:56.319
You're saying, there is there is. Yeah, if you're out,

1215
01:08:56.479 --> 01:09:00.119
if you're out and you're disturbing, if you're in the way.

1216
01:09:00.399 --> 01:09:03.560
Just the common denominator is the elk just so you know,

1217
01:09:04.880 --> 01:09:09.119
so if you're not in where the deer are or

1218
01:09:09.159 --> 01:09:12.199
the elk, you're probably better off. Do you know what

1219
01:09:12.239 --> 01:09:12.520
I mean?

1220
01:09:12.600 --> 01:09:14.760
Why do you think the common denominator is the elk?

1221
01:09:15.520 --> 01:09:19.920
I don't know, I don't know, but it's definitely they

1222
01:09:20.039 --> 01:09:21.960
definitely key in on them.

1223
01:09:23.199 --> 01:09:25.239
It's the other guy I was talking to you. There

1224
01:09:25.279 --> 01:09:26.760
was elk involved, so.

1225
01:09:27.640 --> 01:09:31.359
Oh yeah, yeah, there you go. Yeah, yeah, not so

1226
01:09:31.479 --> 01:09:33.840
much the moose, but they I think because the elk

1227
01:09:33.920 --> 01:09:36.960
are like cows, like they migrate in herds, you can

1228
01:09:37.000 --> 01:09:39.720
control them better. And dear two, I just think that

1229
01:09:40.039 --> 01:09:42.479
they just they like get off on it. They think that.

1230
01:09:42.760 --> 01:09:45.560
I know that sounds fazy. I just I feel like

1231
01:09:45.640 --> 01:09:48.159
it's crazy to even talk about it. But you got

1232
01:09:48.199 --> 01:09:53.640
to understand, I've gone driving, I took a vacation. I

1233
01:09:53.680 --> 01:09:57.000
went driving up the river and close to where that guy,

1234
01:09:57.119 --> 01:09:59.359
not on purpose because I live here, but close to

1235
01:09:59.359 --> 01:10:02.039
where that guy that big foot sighting and oh of

1236
01:10:02.119 --> 01:10:06.319
the river bank come running two doughs and rammed into

1237
01:10:06.359 --> 01:10:10.079
my front quarter panel or front fender, and this my

1238
01:10:10.239 --> 01:10:12.800
side door. And it's like they were being chased. And

1239
01:10:12.840 --> 01:10:17.560
I'm like, when that was chased? Yeah being yeah whatever,

1240
01:10:18.119 --> 01:10:19.960
But it's I just feel just put me on such

1241
01:10:20.039 --> 01:10:22.439
high alert and I never hit I didn't hit them.

1242
01:10:22.479 --> 01:10:24.199
They ran and of course they could have been running

1243
01:10:24.239 --> 01:10:25.960
up there, but they were in such a hurry to

1244
01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:29.319
get out of that embankment. And it's I just feel like,

1245
01:10:30.359 --> 01:10:31.880
I don't know, I feel like I get messed with

1246
01:10:32.560 --> 01:10:33.560
you know what I mean A little bit?

1247
01:10:33.760 --> 01:10:36.479
Yeah, No, I mean you've had You're dealing with it

1248
01:10:36.560 --> 01:10:40.680
your whole life, for sure. But I'm glad we talked tonight,

1249
01:10:40.760 --> 01:10:44.720
And please keep me in the loop with if things

1250
01:10:44.840 --> 01:10:49.439
continue to happen with hearing weird sounds or just the

1251
01:10:49.560 --> 01:10:52.520
ordinary things. Yeah, that'd be interested to know if it

1252
01:10:52.560 --> 01:10:53.760
continues to happen.

1253
01:10:53.560 --> 01:10:55.239
But yeah, I will let you know.

1254
01:10:55.760 --> 01:10:57.359
Thank you so much for coming on tonight.

1255
01:10:57.880 --> 01:10:59.920
Yeah, you bet, Thank you for having me take care.

1256
01:11:01.960 --> 01:11:04.239
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

1257
01:11:04.319 --> 01:11:07.520
directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

1258
01:11:07.520 --> 01:11:11.279
in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've

1259
01:11:11.319 --> 01:11:14.159
seen something that no one can explain, or if you're

1260
01:11:14.159 --> 01:11:17.439
a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told

1261
01:11:17.479 --> 01:11:20.479
to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen

1262
01:11:20.560 --> 01:11:23.760
something strange down on the ground, or if you're with

1263
01:11:23.840 --> 01:11:27.479
the FBI, a federal agency, or working intelligence and you've

1264
01:11:27.520 --> 01:11:30.640
stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And

1265
01:11:30.680 --> 01:11:34.039
if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder

1266
01:11:34.119 --> 01:11:37.399
who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense.

1267
01:11:37.920 --> 01:11:41.760
If you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field,

1268
01:11:41.920 --> 01:11:44.920
or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something

1269
01:11:45.000 --> 01:11:48.399
happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're

1270
01:11:48.439 --> 01:11:52.319
a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under

1271
01:11:52.319 --> 01:11:55.680
contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

1272
01:11:56.239 --> 01:11:58.720
If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

1273
01:11:58.760 --> 01:12:02.239
spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,

1274
01:12:02.920 --> 01:12:06.039
or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA, or

1275
01:12:06.079 --> 01:12:09.439
anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

1276
01:12:10.760 --> 01:12:14.239
then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

1277
01:12:16.000 --> 01:12:19.600
You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

1278
01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:22.439
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1279
01:12:22.479 --> 01:12:28.359
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1280
01:12:28.760 --> 01:12:32.640
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1281
01:12:32.640 --> 01:12:35.520
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1282
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