MASSIVE FOREST ENTITY STALKS HUNTERS NEAR VERDIGRIS RIVER

0:00 But me knowing where we're at. There is no external lights down there, there's no house lives, no street lights, none of that stuff. And I'm watching it and like, I'm not even helping. My brother at this time, Like he's doing his thing, trying to get his stuff out, and I'm saying that I'm watching these things pretty hard, and they just kept getting closer. They're kind of zigzagging towards us, and they're right next to each other. You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

0:50 These are the voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us, all right, big For Society. You get the privilege of talking to Trayton today. Trayton is a individual got connected to He's a long time listener, but he is an outdoors man, a hunter, fisherman, duck hunter, bohunter, heat gets out there in the outdoors and makes it happen, which is awesome. We've had some interesting things that have happened over the years. I believe one of the things that we'll be hearing about will be just north of Tulsa up there in Oklahoma. But we'll hear more about that in a bit. Welcome to the show, Trayton.

1:35 How are you sir? Good? How are you jam doing good? We were just talking about how how hot it is in Iowa and how hot it is where you are at. So we're gonna ye try to make it down here. It's smoking, it's for sure. So is there anything else that the listeners would need to know about you for context before we get going tradon? No, nothing, I believe. Okay, gotcha? So do feel free to Would it make sense to start with your sighting back in two thousand and nine or would you want to start before them? Yeah, we'll start there. This happened. I'm originally from Uliga, Oklahoma, and I've grown up there all my life. One hundred of fish that whole lake, my family's from all over that region. I grew up on the lake there and I spent most of my summers there. I mean, we fished below the dam, below Uga Dam, and that's mostly where all these encounters have happened. And it's interesting because what I come to learn about that place after the fact all this happened. And so we'll start with the first encounter, my sighting. That's what really got it. Going the summer two thousand and nine, h one of my me and my one of my best friends, we would go up there every summer too. We'd go up there

3:08 and fish, We'd catfish all night and h we'd go down this place. Is this place is pretty unique and being where it's at, it's on the Burggers River and below this, below the dam, there is a it's a PSO owns it, a Public Service Company of Oklahoma, and uh so, anything down river from that dam, I mean there's not there's not a house for probably six or seven miles downriver, and this is all untouched land at the time. So we were down there, and this is. Before I had even I was interested in bigfoot and stuff at the time, but I wouldn't really that into it.

3:51 Like this. This sighting is what really kicked it off for me. So we were we had been down there fishing for a while. We were catching fish and there's a there's a railroad bridge just down river from where we were fishing at and there's nobody else downriver. I mean it's two thirty in the morning. We got the whole bank. Lit up on our side, and uh, we're catching fish and man, uh it sounded like a entire tree was thrown into the river. I don't mean I've heard. I've heard beaver's clap, I've heard uh, you know, just random things falling into the river. But this thing, I mean it it got both of our attention. I mean, it was that close to us, and uh, but it was on the opposite side of the river, and the opposide of the river is probably sixty seventy yards away.

4:41 So uh. He walked over. To me and he's like, man, did you hear that? I was like, yeah, I did. And we're sitting there talking about it. We're like, I wonder what that was, and no one we're sitting or we're sitting there talking and about that time, like it just sounded like a truck was coming up the other side of the river, just snapping trees. Man, I'm talking. Just we're like, what is going on here? Like, I mean, it just kept getting closer and closer, coming up the other side of the river. And we're sitting there, we're talking, we're trying to We got our lights on the opposite side of the river by this time, because it's getting to where it would be directly across from us.

5:25 And it starts to quiet down and. We start to see the silhouette of somebody over there and not thinking, we weren't understanding at the time of what was going on, and we're fishing, and I'm talking to him, like I wonder what this guy's doing, And I mean he's slowly he gets he gets near across the river from us, and where we start to see a silhouette and we were lighting him up and it has no lights. They're moving real slow. I mean all we could see was the arc figure. But uh, he gets directly across from us, and there's these two uh, these two sycamore trees that had grown together, like you know how they do, like they'll they'll grow up. I mean they're like weeds. Man. But he gets directly across from us, and like, Jared, what is this guy doing.

6:18 He's like, he sees this, he has to see his fishing here. We're thinking that somebody else. This guy's gonna try to fish across from us. So I see him, I'm like, I'm gonna yell at him. I was like, hey, man, we're fishing right here. And as soon as I say something, man, he steps behind this. He steps behind them sycamore trees and goes out of sight. I'm like, We're like, okay, this is getting this getting weirder. And we got the lights on. We got the lights on that tree by this time. And this tree is i mean the base of this thing. I went over there after the fact and uh checked out how big the base of this thing was. I mean, it's it had to have been two or three of me. And I'm I mean, I'm a decent sized guy, and uh, we're watching it and it just I mean it was peeking its head out on the the left side of his shoulder was on the outside of this tree, and I mean he's he's wide, man. This thing is wide and it's tall, and like it just kept it kept rocking back and forth, rocking back, and forth, and by this time we're getting freaked out. And it stood there.

7:25 This happened for probably two or three minutes, and you could see him say him. You could see it back up. I mean it stayed to where it could see us. And it just backed up into the tree and we heard it leap and it went back down river. I mean plainly audible like what it was. I don't know if it was trying to spook us or what was going on, but that was my first sighting. I mean I didn't get a good that's not really all I could see was a silhouette. But when I went over there to check the check out where this thing was at, man that there's no way it was person, No, no way, And for that to happen like that, I mean, it freaked us out. We like we reeled up everything and got out of there. But uh, after that, it was probably another year after that. I started asking around, like I even called uh, I called Game and Fish up there.

8:31 I called actually the corp of engineers up there at the Lake office and I asked them. I was like, Man, have you guys had anything crazy like this happened? And I kind of told them what had happened, and they're like, no, we've we've had a bear, a bear siding down river around that time. But I was like, this was no bear, Like come on out, and uh They're like, no, we've We've never had anything like that happen. And I ran in the mountain lines up there. I've ran in the mountain lines up there too. I'm hunting, and I've even called and asked if they'd had any collared in that area and they're going to tell me no. They tell me no every time, but uh so there's just no telling them what they know. But from where that where that pso that location is that electric company is at.

9:22 I had told some family members about what had happened right down there, and my aunt had actually had a sighting in that same spot where I was at. Like I told her about it, she was like what I mean, it kind of blew her mind. But yeah, to have all that happen right there, and then from what happened after that with all my next experiences, it's just there's something in that area that I'm just not sure if they follow the fish migration or what. Because that's. That's why maybe a few questions for you about that can you were you able to get an estimate of how tall it was what you were seeing.

10:06 Now? I must say probably eight feet he was. It was big. It was definitely big, because I mean where the trees had gapped at was probably chin level to me and I'm almost six foot tall, so and he was well above that. Like I could see I could see his shoulders moving in between the moving in between both trees. So were there any out of place sounds or smells during that. Time besides the besides the tree falling, uh, and the and the snaps and stuff, these things. It was loud what it was doing, like I mean, it was, I mean it was pretty. We're good ways down up the river from where it was at when we heard these the tree and all that.

11:00 But absolutely, how did that after after this happened? How did it affect you in the days afterwards? Or you said there are multiple people there, how were the conversations like after this happened. The guy that I was with, I've known him for I still we're still best friends to this day. Like we grew up together, what's the school together? So I know him and he's kind of he's more of a skeptical kind of guy, like he wouldn't just go out and say, you know, I mean, it freaked him out.

11:42 He's like, let's He's like, let's get. Out of here. I don't know. I mean we reeled up, dragged our fish like we weren't we weren't trying to stay around. I mean, it was pretty weird. It was just weird how it happened because of where we were at. Really, I mean we've been down there multiple times before that, and uh, just nothing like that ever happened. It's a it's a pretty remote area where that's. At down there, though, I'm looking at it on a map, and is there like a weird history to this area, like uh, around the dam or anything like that. I see an area called Skull Hollow, which is a really strange name for an area. Yeah. Actually, uh, I'm not sure. So if you if you go just north of Skull Hollow, there's Will Rogers birthplace.

12:30 Do you see that. Yeah, that's where That's where I grew up. I was down on that lake all my life and I had a couple of weird things happened out there too, but uh that was before all this had happened. Just but Skall hollow believing not a lot of people drowned. They just drowned right there for some reason, I guess the waves or the that's a north and south lake so that it gets pretty uh choppy through there. But other than that, it's just we were talking. I really got into the history of that area after the fact that this had happened, because.

13:11 After this, I don't know if it's. Like I don't know if it's something that you just have to be enlightened too. But like once I had that experience, all this other stuff started happening, and like it all started happening when I was in the woods or when I was out there tracing around or whatever, I. Mean, trading. Before you head into that, I want to point out another thing you said though it's pretty pretty important. Which it's not that you just were a random. Fishermen or hunter in this lake at that time, but you, I mean, you've grown up in this area and you know everything that's supposed to be in this area in the water. I mean, you are, You're a smart I and so I think that even gives more credence to what you saw and what you know you saw that night as well.

14:10 But yeah, it feel free to. I would love to hear about you know, what you began to experience after that encounter you had. Yeah, so. I started deer hunting. I mean, I've deer hunted that whole area up there where my grandparents lived and stuff. But I knew all the people around there, so I had access to a bunch of properties that a lot of people didn't have access to. So but also got permission on some land just to the south of the dam, and we would go in through the dam area and UH with Scout, with Scout around and stuff. And I had I had several I said, I had several orb ha go on, and this is stuff like I'm not sure what they're I've I've looked into this. I've listened to a bunch of episodes where it talks about sasquatch being involved with orbs or whatever, and I definitely think that it has something to do with that because and this happened. I would say most of these, most of these experiences happened with somebody else with me too, Like I mean, I love to take people out there and hunt and share the experiences with them and stuff. But I think my first, my first real ORB siding happened. It was probably the I think it was the deer season right after that.

15:42 I was down in there and I got down in there early, and it was probably I mean, it was just north of where I had that siding at and I was on this creek. I was on this creek ledge and I put some pegs in a tree to go up and set up my tree stand, and I kept going up and I would see these lights down below me, and I was like, surely this is not I mean, there's like five or six of these, like I mean, they were like a yellowish color, like a yellow light, and I thought they were I mean they it looked like a dollar headlamp. I guess, I would say. So I would go back down the tree and I would sit there for a second and they would be gone. I'd go back up at boom there there they'd begin.

16:24 So at this time, I'm not really understanding what's going on, because it's right after that, and uh, it freaked me out enough to where I had been dropped off. I'd call my grandma. I was like, hey, can you come get me. I'm gonna leave my stuff down here and I'll come back later and get it. So I took everything but my I mean I left everything but my bow and I got out of there and she'd picked me up what happened, And I was like, I'm not evenna go into it right now. I said, let's just get back home. So we got back home, and later that day I drove back out there apart to go get my stuff. And from the minute I had walked into the woods, dude, I was just like overtaken by You need to be careful, Like I mean, I creeped and this was a I I would say, it's probably half a mile walk to where I needed to be from where I parked. And this whole time, like as soon as I got up to this ridge where I would go into the area I was gonna hunt. Dude, I just started to I just had that overwhelming feeling of like, okay, be careful because there's something around here that's watching you. So I mean I'm good in the woods.

17:45 Like if if if somebody or something can creep on me in there without me catching it, dude, it's good. And I was checking my back trail. I mean I would I would stop in certain areas to see if I could catch this thing. Creeping around me or whatever and just could not do it. Dude. I could hear things, but I just it was very careful when it was doing this, and it took me. I got in there. I got in there at about eleven o'clock that morning and didn't get out until right at dark. And right as I was coming out, I made. Like a big horseshoe. I went around, grabbed my stuff and started to head out and I got to within one hundred yards of where I parked, and this place is you can't get a vehicle back there where I was at. There ain't no way. And I still tell people about this today. I found this.

18:44 I walked up on this ridge and it was pretty steep and this rock. Dude, I'm talking like two people, two or three people couldn't have picked this thing up. It was set up in this tree, and I had pictures of it and stuff, and the way this thing was set up in there. I was just like it blew my mind, like I had no no idea how that would have happened. Like I mean, it was way over my head and it. Was I had to have been at least eight hundred pounds due it was huge, Like I mean, it was sitting in this I think it was a it was a persymmetry that was sitting in They have a bunch of limbs and stuff that come out to where something could do that for sure, But I just it just never made any sense to me.

19:29 Wow, my goodness. I have a few questions about the orbs because when I was just in Tennessee had my first ORB experience, so I kind of know how to maybe what questions ask a little bit better now. So you talked about what color they were, could you with your could you make the approximate size with your hands? About how big you think they were? About as big as my fist? Okay, these ones, these these were the ones. The the experience I had after this was I.

20:11 Mean, these weren't. These were completely different. But I'll tell you more about that. Yeah, I gotcha. How high up were they off the ground. It was kind of hard for me to tell because I was going up and down a tree and I was on a creek bank so like, and they were down in the creek bank, so I mean like in the creek bed so and I was that creek bank was pretty high. So I'm gonna say they were below me. That I'll say that, like, Okay, what kind of movement did they seem to be doing as they traveled around? Well, when I when I go when I first seen them, I mean, they were just boom there and then I kind of froze in the tree, and I was like, okay, what's going on? So when I went back down, they were gone. But when they came back, every time i'd go back up that tree, that's when they pop up.

21:05 And but they would pop up, they pop up in the same area, but they weren't really moving like they would be in a different spot, but they would they would still be in the initial area. Okay, interest, so they were just kind of hanging around a certain area. Yeah that makes you wonder, Yeah, okay, okay, yeah. Feel free to continue with your your account. Yeah. So this next one was in the same area probably, I mean it was probably another half mile away from that spot. And we were on top of an oak flat to where I mean it overlooked the Verdigris River. And I was with my brother this time, and uh, we had had a good we'd had a good deer hunt, and he had shot a buck that morning and we had to drag it out of there and stuff. So he was like, we're just gonna come back later and we'll get my we'll get my stand or whatever. But by the time we had by the time we went back in there, it was it was almost dark. So we walked back in there and we get on top of this flat and we finally find where he had left his stand.

22:18 I mean, everything in there looks the same. We finally found. It, and no sooner we got there, man, Like I'm I'm kind of already watching in the area, and I see this red and this blue orb this blue light on this on the edge of this bridge that we're on, and it it does overlook the river bottom down there, but me knowing where we're at, there is no external lights down there. There's no house lights, no street lights, none of that stuff. And I'm watching it and like, I'm not even helping. My brother at this time, Like he's doing his thing, trying to get his stuff out, and I'm saying that I'm I'm watching these things pretty hard, and they just kept getting closer. They're kind of zig zagging towards us, and they're right next to each other.

23:13 I mean, this this blue the blue one was. Such a pretty like a just a pretty blue man, like, I can't even describe the color to you. I was like, I would say a sky blue almost, but more of a brighter color. And that's what caught my attention to begin with, because I'm partially color blind, so the red didn't really stick out to me that much. And so these things are moving towards us, and I'm like, hey, look, and he's skeptical. I mean, he's one of the hardest people to, you know, relay the message like this is not people coming to us, and I mean they're within I would say, one hundred and fifty yards from us when I started seeing in him, and they just keep they keep getting closer, and I'm watching and he's hitting me.

24:05 He's like, are you gonna help me or what. I'm like, no, dude, I'm watching. These and he's like, dude, that's just house lights back there. I'm like, that ain't no house lights paid. I mean, they're they're moving towards us. And he continues doing what he's doing and they get within fifty yards of us. So I pushed him. I'm like, hey, stop what you're doing and watch this. So I mean, we turn off all our lights. And he's he starts watching them, he starts seeing them at this time, and they just they keep getting closer and closer, and they're within They're within forty yards of us now. And I mean he didn't even have his tree stand and stuff put together. He's like, dude, let's go.

24:46 So we grabbed our stuff. I mean we ran out of there. Dude. It freaked him out of earth where he was running and h like when we got back to his truck where he was like, dude, what was that? I was like, your guests, I don't know, I really don't know. And after this I'll go into. My did you sorry real quick? Did you say there were zig zagging towards you or they. Were yeah, they were whatever it was, knew we were there. This wasn't This wasn't by happen the stance by no mean, this was like they started out on that ridge and they came right to us, Like I mean, they were coming right to us.

25:33 I've shared my ORB story a few times with people and individuals. Some not in the community. Some have said, how did you know it was not something like a firefly? Is what? How would you respond to that? This was like, well, this was the big I mean, this was the middle of the rut, so like this was probably November fifteenth, sixteenth, so anything like that. It's just it's gonna be ruled out. Anyways. They're gone by the end of September probably, so Firefly. And I mean the size of these things were. These were bigger than the the other ones I'd seen. They were probably these were about the size of a basketball and h yeah.

26:22 So and they were low was another weird thing. They were like, I mean, probably two feet up off the ground when they were moving to us, like they got with it, they got that close to us to where you know, I mean, he is just. He's somebody that's hard to convince of anything. Like he's got to see it to believe it. And that's what he needed to see. And I've tried to get him to talk about it afterwards and stuff, and you're like, man, I don't know what we've seen. I don't know what it was, you know it was. It's gonna take him a while probably, Yeah, yeah, wow, bast ball size. I cannot imagine that the ones I was, the ones I saw, they were small, dude, But we we put flashlights on them.

27:09 There are no bugs there man basketball size. Yeah, I'm not sure. Like that's why I was gonna ask you about, like going back to when I was going to get my stuff out of there. These things have to they have to either have like a. The way they interdimensionally move or like they are just so in tuned with nature to where they I mean, they they have to. I don't know. It's just a higher form of intelligence that I can't explain. I really can't. Like, I mean, it blows my mind every time I think about it.

27:53 But it's it's weird as I'll get out because like you know, there there is a or the community where you know, they'll see them disappear, They'll see the bigfoot disappear. And then it's like, well, if they're disappearing, are they going through a portal or maybe they're like able to change into these orbs that are usually seen around the same areas. And yeah, it really makes you ask more questions than you went in asking. I think I almost think, I almost think that they have a like a cloaking camouflage kind of deal that they just know how I mean a lion or a mountain lion or a bobcat or something like that they can be there and you you won't be able to pick them up until you know they want to be seen.

28:40 And like. That's just it. That's a cat. I mean, these what we're dealing with is way more intelligent than that. So like. There's no tell them there really isn't. Like I I haven't been back up in that area in a couple of years, and I've moved out here to Fortsmith, so uh, definitely on the agenda to go back up that way, though my whole family's affair now. Is it a thing? So it sounds like the primary reason that you haven't been there is because you moved areas or is it a thing where you're kind of apprehensive about even going back there. After that?

29:21 I have a have several more gas. So after that thing happened with my brother. I didn't go back in there for probably two years. And the next time I I think the next time I had something happened I was with I was with a female friend of mine and we were down there fishing, and I was telling her about all this stuff that had. Happened and where where they were. All this stuff would start to happen when we're down below this ridge, and I was like, you don't believe me, I mean, not knowing that something was going to happen. And we get out and we're walking, and sure enough, I mean this audible, like just two or three different whistles from the same area at the same time.

30:12 Did this to get our attention. I mean it stopped her in her tracks and locked her up. I was like, don't freak out, come on, grab my hand, we'll keep walking. And this whistle that they did was just so piercing through the woods. Dude, it was just it kind of got me. My heart went up in my throat for sure. I was like I knew what it was, and like I was like, come. On, yeah, but what time of day was that that that happened? The whistling. Yeah, this was the middle of the night. This is probably yeah, this was probably twelve o'clock maybe, man. Yeah. And I went back to I think the deer season after the whistling, I went back in there to check things out. And this was right before deer season it started.

31:05 And I had this one tree that I would go in there and hunt, and I walked and I shot numerous deer out of this tree, Like, uh, it's a really good spot. I mean, any anywhere if a if a deer hunter was looking for a spot, I mean, like this would be a place to go, like any anything that I know how to that knows how to hunt deer. Like, So I go and find this tree and. I'm walking up on it and I'm I noticed something at the base of my tree, and like, like, there ain't no way. So I walk up there and there's a deer skull in this old bottle. Dude, Like I'm talking like a It looked like an old whiskey bottle set at the base of my tree, and uh, I've it gave me goosebumps just being right there. I mean, like I I didn't why would why what would prompt something to do that, you know what I mean, Like, why why would that be there? And knowing I was going to come back, or knowing that something had something had to have seen me in that tree, Like I don't know why else would have been there, Like this was just all right. I didn't leave no pegs in the tree or nothing like that, Like I mean, it was just it was pretty weird, very weird. I still have the skull in the bottle today, just because of that whole experience here.

32:29 It wasn't really weird. I'm trying to think. I don't think I've ever heard I've heard plenty of gifting situations. Yeah, this is the first time where it's been connected to like where a hunter would usually hunt. Maybe maybe I just haven't heard those accounts yet. And people can listeners can can reach out with anything they've heard too. But that's weird. Are you an individual that is that? Like a favorite drink of choice? Sure? Oh no, this bottle was really unique though. I don't have it here with me, but it's at my grandparents' place. But it was old man like.

33:11 I mean, I don't know that's what I was gonna say if it had something to do with gifting, because anytime we shot a deer out there, like we would feel dressed and leave whatever's left in a certain spot, and it was just right up the ridge from where we were at. So I don't know if that was their way of saying thank you or whatever, right, yeah, because I mean we would come back. I mean we'd hunt that place all through the season, and I mean those carcasses would not be there a day or two and they'd be gone. Sure, Yeah, so. You are seeing orbs, bigfoot, you're hearing things.

33:54 Oh, I'm gonna ask you this too. The time when you. Went there, when you were like very apprehensive, like I need to be aware of what's going on. Was that due to like a. Vibe that you had gotten or did you actually hear something that said, like you need to be aware of what's like Was it like that. It was a vibe for sure when I got out of my car, I mean, but at the same time, like, uh, it was something, and my soul was just saying, like, loo be cared, like make sure you're you're paying attention, and like I've never felt threatened in there or anything.

34:39 I just didn't know. I just think the whole uh, the whole ORB thing to begin with had got me shaken up or whatever. But like that's when it was really made. That was like my I guess, my confirmation like I was in an area to where I was ancient and I needed to be respectful what. I was doing, I guess. And because I mean, my whole family's Native American and like I grew up in those ways and just the stories that they have, I mean, my dad's a firm believer in this. He's had his own experiences in No Water, which is just north of the lake up there on the upper part of the Verticus River, and the things that I mean, I've I've had things happen with him up there too, Like we knew to a lot, so we were moving around. We moved around the lakes, the old parts of the lakes and stuff, and we've seen we've seen thunderbirds, like I'm pretty sure that these were the biggest birds I've ever seen.

35:41 In my life. Like, yeah, it's it's very u That place is very weird. I'm not sure. I was talking to my dad about this, because the whole east side of that lake is it was strip mined for coal and stuff, and the whole east side of that lake is where all the crazy stuff happens. Like they definitely disturbed something when they were doing that lake, making that lake. Yeah, I mean, there's so many from what I know to do with Ooklahoma, there's so much Native American history. And then if you go, you know, clearing stuff out kind of as you were saying, who knows how many graveyards you may created or things like that, and it's like, yeah, you don't know what you may have potentially unleashed.

36:34 That the whole east side of the east side of that lake over there, that's where all the skin walker and the stuff like that happens. Like really, it's very very eerie spot on the lake over there. Like I I like to be in the woods and stuff by myself, but on that east side, dude, I will not be in the dark over there by myself. Okay, So is it a thing? I know of a few areas around the country where you've got bodies of water, and it seems like on one side there might be certain things going on like Bigfoot, and on the other side there's gonna be as you said, other things. Is it Does it seem to be kind of.

37:18 Yeah, it does. Half here, Yeah, they kinda where where I was having all those experiences at it's I mean, it's directly at the dam, so like it separates, it separates the east from the west side of the river. And yeah, this was actually happening on it would be the east side, but it's just that that one area by the dam. Like I've never I haven't had any other sasquatch experiences on that east side of the lake until I get up north, and no water to where the old River is and stuff. But on that the the west side of the lake is where everybody has their experiences. Okay, it's just that I think that the west side of the lake is the actually the untouched part, like it one strip mind, none of that, got it?

38:10 Got it? So do you know people that have had skin walker experiences on the east side? Then oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Do you guys have this reminds me of another lake? I mean everyone knows about Lake Tuksoma. Yeah for you guys, and how there's everything down there and this kind of sounds familiar in a way. Do you guys have like pale crawler and stuff reports around this area as well too? Or the thing that people see on the east side is like a. I would say it goes along with the dog man.

38:52 Or also it's a people have experiences with old Native American like they say that they see this tall chief and he'll change into a wolf, or like, uh, the guy or my dad knows this man that he lives out there, he has a bunch of land on the east side, and this is like a reoccurring experience that he had. He sees this, he sees this old Indian up on this hill and then he'll start seeing these coyotes and wolves and he said they'll see him more or change, and uh, the things that he has happened at his ranch is just. Like I'm I'm like, I don't want to go out there.

39:34 That's crazy. Do they have a music festival around this area too? I believe? So? Uh are you talking about? Like what are you talking about? Like? Is it Kalala Land? Where's that made up? That might be made up? Okay, yeah, that's. How I may have seen. I may have seen an episode of or Tulsa came. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I went to school in Broken Arow down there. Now, man, you've had so many experiences is wild and you're in I mean you're relatively young too. Have you have there been like a UFO or or YD. I was like, that's the only thing we haven't talked about. Really, I'm sure there's been stuff going on over there.

40:29 Yeah. I actually got into that when uh, after these after I had that experience due that very first one, and really I got into like I'd seen I'd seen something with one of my two of my best friends when we were duck hunting, and. This thing was like just this spiral up in. The air looked like it looked like a picture of a galaxy, you know how it has the arms and stuff. But this thing was like in the sky. Who just and I got into it and I started. I came across this guy, his name Stephen Career, and he has this, uh that that protocol that he has, a CE five protocol.

41:14 So me and my buddy were like, let's let's see if this works. So we did that and we actually, I mean it works, man, Like I mean if you get into the right state of mind. That's what I think. You had to be in the right state of mind to have this stuff happen, like any of it. Really, you have to be open to it. And uh, mass. My roommate, I was like, I was that a dog? Yeah? So, uh did anything weird happened? Because I've heard about the C five protocol from doctor Greer, but I I have not talked to many people. I've talked to one or two. So what kind of things happened when you initiated that that protocol?

41:56 Man? If you if you if you do exactly what he teaches you to do it, which this can be like I kind of stopped doing I stopped doing that because of I'm just not really sure what these those those are like because I'm very very spiritual, and I'm the way that the way that these would happen, these experiences would happen. Is like I mean, you're you're asking them to. Come down and show you, so like we would, we would meditate for twenty or thirty minutes, and then we would vector him in like we would if you're looking in at Google Maps, like you take them directly down to where you're at. And if you're if you're in a clear if you're in a clear state of mind and you're asking them to do this, dude, it'll happen.

42:51 It definitely will happen. That's the wild wild stuff. I've never done that personally. It probably wouldn't just because, as you said, there's stuff you got to figure out before you start messing around with doors like that, and I'm not really super comfortable with that myself. I just like going into the woods and looking for bigfoot. Right, Yeah, I'm gonna stick with that. But my goodness, So has there been anything else that you've experienced in this area? I mean, trading, you've you've experienced so many things over. The years, not in uh on the north end of the lake, being with my dad and stuff. We've we've he actually had an experience why we were a noodle and I was with him at the time, but I wasn't in the area. Like we'd split up to go up different branches of this creek and another guy, one of his best friends, was with us in the same area, and we kind of we're all we're just looking for different area.

43:57 I mean, we look for certain areas to go in there noodle. And I heard my dad yelling, and so I kind of made my way to him, and he was yelling for his buddy Joe that was with us, And by the time we had all met up, he was My dad was just I mean, he was sheet white dude, and he's he's dark. I mean, he's Native America. He's just like me. But uh, And I was like, do what happened? Did you get bit by a snake or what was going on? He was like, he said, are you He's like, are you messing with me? I was like, what are you talking about? Dude? And Joe walks up about that time he said, was that you? And he goes, dude, I. Haven't even been. He's like, what are you talking about? He said, Man, I had this thing jump up out of the creek and take off running. He said, I thought it was you, And I mean he was shaken up by it. And I mean he's been in the woods his whole life too, and knows what's out there and stuff. He's like, we're not going back there. And uh, this is on Lightning Creek up there on the very north into the lake. That's where my whole family's from.

45:02 And that area that that creek in general is My grandma has pictures of stuff, just silhouettes of things and standing on the creek banks. And it's a very very old area. That's where the Delaware people, that's the tribe I'm from, that's where they originally settled when they moved into Oklahoma, and she has pictures of things I can't explain. I mean, it's just. That whole area, man, is just there's something different about. It, some wild, wild stuff. When you moved down to Arkansas, did the experiences seem to follow you down there or was it a did you get a kind of piece from from the area that you were having things happening.

45:54 Nothing has really happened down here. Nothing has happened down here. I went, I went to Tenkial Lake this past weekend and spent some time with some of my buddies and we had a good time. And I've just been in a I've been on a different spiritual journey, so I'm taking things differently. And. I have been wanting to like go out in some of these areas that are around here. But Fort Smith in itself is just like, I mean, it's pretty modernized, and uh, I'm really getting into like artifact hunting and so I know that's gonna take me into some places that's that has some experiences and stuff. But yeah, they kind of back in Oklahoma though. I mean, yeah, it's different.

46:46 It's definitely different, definitely different. I will tell you. Some of the weirdest stuff I've I've heard happened south of because you said Fort Smith. Right, Yeah, yeah, I'm south. Of Fort Smith down and Nina area. Yep, that's weird down there. I've never been there, but the stuff I've heard come out of there in board Camp Crystal Mine. Yeah, that's where I'm wanting to go down there. Dude, if you do, let me know, because they're seeing stuff coming out of portals, and people are getting healed, and there's crystals coming out of nowhere and there's some weird stuff going on. Yeah, I listened to that show. That's what got me to get a hold of you.

47:28 Is that that show particularly? Yeah, I really want to go check that out. I was going to ask you, Uh, do you ever have you had any other reports come in from that area up there where? Yeah, where you're from in Fort Smith, No, from uh Uligo out there. No. So that's interesting. Because so what I do is I'll try to keep track of stuff on if you go to a big for Society podcast dot com, there's a sighting map. I get a lot in the northeast and then it kind of follows the east border down and then I had maybe one thing in Tulsa, but I had nothing in that area where you were talking. And I'm so it'll be interesting once this gets out if if other people are like, oh, yeah, that lake is crazy. I just have never heard about it. Yeah on the show.

48:27 And I'm surprised that no, No more reports have come from north of the lake like up where I'm telling you about, no wata Uliga is more of like a it's. A ranchers area, Like I mean, these are these are big ranches that are there, so but no wada being up there, Like that's older than Uliga, and like I know, I've heard so many things from that area. It's just I don't know how I'm surprised that nobody else has reported anything like create like way way deeper stuff than I've I've told you about. Like I mean the things that people have happened up there, I mean they would freak out anybody.

49:12 Wow, wild wild stuff. So you you mentioned that you're kind of on a spiritual journey now and so having all these experiences, so. How are you? You know, people experience stuff like this and sometimes they're like, you know, we're just gonna stay away from this or I'm going to try to figure this out. Has this put you on a certain path when it comes to all this stuff that's happening to you? Oh yeah yeah this that definitely, I mean this that has a lot to do with the way I incorporate my my religion in with my Native American side. Also, like I mean I'm definitely Christian, but I also believe in the Red Road. And like how how my ancestors have done their things, and like all that incorporates itself.

50:11 And I feel like if you're if you're spiritually if you're spiritually pure and you know yourself, and you go out and you're seeking these things, they're gonna they will they will show themselves to you or they'll you'll have things happen to you. And uh, I just now like. If I if I go any if I when I went to tink Killer this past weekend, it was kind of like for a vision thing or I need some clarity on some things that were going on. And I was praying a lot, and you know, the things that I had, I was having happened out there, like with uh eagles and the ospreys, and I mean, like I don't see ospreys very much. Like I mean that was just, uh that was part of my comformation on the road that I'm supposed to be on.

51:02 So like, I definitely think that. What what's in your spirit, you're gonna go out there and find like if you're gonna have run ends with these more of the evil side of things, like maybe a skin walker or whatever else. Like I don't think Bigfoot or Sasquatch have any ill intent or anything like that. So I just it just depends on the road drawn. Really, that's really interesting. I've gotten at least one report from the time Killer that was back last year. Yeah, a lady and her daughter were just messed with. They were in their tent and something was just messing with them. Say, we're at not the exact area. I think she may have mentioned it was in one of the campgrounds, but that probably doesn't narrow it down too much. It's uh, it's eight episode eight twenty. I'm gonna to listen to it. But yeah, yeah, that I I've heard weird stuff about that area.

52:06 I mean, really, all of Oklahoma has its weirdness. I think it does. Is that is where would you say Oklahoma rates as far as the activity goes? Uh? Personally, I would say it's like. Third or fourth for me, really, and I would say like Washington, Oregon, and then like Oklahoma, Pennsylvania. Ohio, That's what I would say. Huh yeah, Pennsylvania. Yeah, Pennsylvania's got way more than you would think. Once you get into it, You're like, oh my goodness, there's a lot going on here.

52:47 It's it's really really really weird, but. Really Trayton, did you have any did you have any other questions you were wanting to to ask? No, Man, uh, I think that was it. I just want to get on here and let you know things are still happening in Oklahoma. Dude, I love it. I hope to get down there hopefully someday. And man, if you do end up going down to Mina, yeah, you got to reach out to me, send me an email and let me know if I will if it's uh, if it's if it's what they say that it is, because I've talked to multiple witnesses from that or people that don't work there but have gone there, and they're like, yeah, that's it happens, and I just, oh, my goodness, this place is wacky.

53:32 So let me know if you do go there. I will. Man, it'll probably be towards the end of the summer when. It's not so coot. Awesome, awesome, Well, thank you so much, Thank you so much Trayton for coming on. I appreciate the show. And then. You had provided your email as well when you signed up. Is that if people want to reach out about that area or anything, they can reach out to you. Yeah, I would love to hear that, I'd love. To hear it awesome. So I'll put that in the description or the show notes for the episode and people can reach out if need be there trying. Thank you so much for coming on the show. It's been a pleasure chatting with you.

54:13 And good luck. Appreciate it. Man on your journey in the future. Man, thank you you too. Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity around Oakridge, Oregon? And you think to yourself, Man, I would love to get out in those woods and experience it for myself. Well, guess what this year you can. If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July tenth through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's going to be even better than the previous year's reason number one, I'll be one of the speakers. It's gonna be wild. I'll probably I'll say this. There may be stuff you haven't heard anywhere else, because let's just say sometimes it's uh, well, you just got to be there. We'll leave it that more about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now check this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his documentary series Searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year you can not only go to the festival, but you can also sign up for a track deep in the wild forest outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot Spots to look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots to sign up for this, and yes, this will also be filmed for the next chapter in his documentary series, which is

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