May 6, 2026

Minnesota Witness Saw a Shape-Shifting Bigfoot by Lake Virginia

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Season 1

A childhood fishing trip near Lake Virginia turned into a face-to-face encounter that Patrick has carried for decades. In this gripping Bigfoot Society episode, he shares a strange being peering from behind a tree, long screams in the Minnesota woods, years of feeling watched along the railroad tracks, and a later sighting of a massive blonde creature moving through the Rice Creek brush. From the Lake Minnetonka region to hidden trails near the Twin Cities, this is a powerful firsthand account filled with mystery, memory, and encounters that still refuse to fade.

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You're listening to Bigflea Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, pick for Society. Welcome

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back to this show. We've got the privilege of talking

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to Patrick today. Patrick is a individual I got connected

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to about some interesting things that he has experienced out

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there in the state of Minnesota. So welcome to the show.

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Patrick. How are you doing today, sir.

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Doing really well? Thanks for having.

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Me absolutely Before we get going, is there any information

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that the listeners would want to know for context about

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yourself before we dig into what you've experienced over the years.

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Yeah, sure, Jeremiah. I grew up in what at that

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time was a very rural area and railroad tracks ran

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through the back side of our house, and our house

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with shake. We were that close. And I have a

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long history. My father was Irish and his family tree

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goes back pretenth century in Ireland, and my mother was

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Welsh and she was a very warm lady. And early

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on as a child, I realized that I would see

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things like people, shadow people, ghosts type things in my house.

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And I went to my mom about it, and she said, well,

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it's okay, you have the gift I had. I have it,

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she said, my mother had it, and there's nothing to

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be afraid of and this type of thing. So, and

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I was probably about seven years old and she's talking

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to me about seeing old lady in her house growing up.

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And it was an unusual conversation, nevertheless, for a child.

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Usually you know you're not going to tell your kids

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you know this kind of thing. But it was just

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accepted and I didn't worry about it anymore. But I

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always felt like I had kind of a different sense

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about situations and places. And we had a lot of

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tramps that would come off the train and come to

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the house and ask for food. We had a camp

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back by a creek that fed into Lake Virginia, which

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fed into Minnetonka, and so it was a different different

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growing up and so at any rate, this was surrounded

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by mostly woods and lowland and lake and as a boy,

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I would usually walk the railroad tracks to my friend's

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house or to where I spent a lot of time.

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There was a lot of violence in my house, and

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I tended to spend a lot of time Jeremiah in

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the woods and just off and out of the house

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when this was going on. My dad was a big

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drinker at that time, and so ben of my place

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to go was the woods. And I learned to listen

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to the woods, and I learned to just go out

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as deep and as far away as I could, following

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the tracks and going into these woods around these lakes,

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Virginia in particular, and I got to know the woods

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really well. And I always had this sensory kind of

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you know, thing that I would pick up. And there

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were times that you know, I always had felt like, well,

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let's just say I got very good in the woods.

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I could track, I could move quietly, I could lay

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down on the floor of the woods and just look

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up through the canopy and take a nap, you know.

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And but I noticed that I at times felt like

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I was being watched, and sometimes I felt like it

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was one. Sometimes I felt like I was being watched

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from different angles, different areas, locations from me. And being

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a kid who you know, who had kind of this

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sensory gift, I wasn't afraid. There were times I was,

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and I'll get into that, but there were times that

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I would know that I was being watched and I

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would say why are you watching me? And I wouldn't

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get any response. And sometimes I would hear all the

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nature go quiet, all the birds, everything would stop, and

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being kind of attuned to being in the woods, I

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would know then that they were there or he was there.

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But I, you know, again, I'd say, why are you

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watching me? Or I sometimes I'd say, I know you're here.

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And this went on for quite a while growing up

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as a kid. And so one day I had brought

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my fishing pole, my tackle box and some worms with me,

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and there was a little inlet on this lake and

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I could catch some crappies or whatever, and I'm fishing

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and I was probably I don't know, eight or nine,

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and I heard, or I just felt and heard the

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woods go silent around me. Okay, And so I slowly

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turn around and I see a face half of the

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face and a forearm and a hand above slide around

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the tree as well. So I said, basically the outside

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of the forearm, the top of the hand, and an eye,

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half the nose, the cheek, half the mouth. And it's

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the first time I ever saw, you know, ever saw

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what this was. And I remember standing there at first,

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I was like, did I just see that, you know?

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And and I'm watching and I'm watching because it slid

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back behind the tree and I'm just watching and a

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few maybe a minute goes by, and I said, I

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see you, you know, I know you're there. And the

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face Jeremiah was really different. I mean it was like

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almost looked elongated to me, and a larger than normal eye,

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and so it didn't look like a person at all.

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I mean maybe in the structure, but that's it. But

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everything was elongated and a large eye. And so anyways,

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I'm standing there, and you know, I was a little

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bit afraid, but I was used to that, and it

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used to dealing with that, and I knew how to

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kind of keep control of my situation of things around me.

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But so I said, I know, you're there, and like

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I said, I saw you, and out again comes the

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whole face around the side of the tree and the

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arm with the forearm, with the arm or the hand

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raised above it on the side of the tree. And

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this is the strange part. There was a pretty almost

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a human looking person. I mean, everything had kind of

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like come into how would you say it, like like,

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you know, it was like the first time I saw it,

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it was like morphing, if that makes sense to you.

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And and then the second time it looked around after

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I spoke to it, it was he was tall, and

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I know I've heard people describe, you know, just four foot,

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widen the shoulders and this and really built up. But

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this wasn't this it was I mean, he had long,

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wavy black hair. There was no hair on his face, though,

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but his skin was I would describe like a chalky

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gray face. And the top of the hand had black hair,

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but it was only like maybe inch and a half

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two inches long, and the forearm had the same hair

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on it and about the same length, but it was black.

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And I'm looking at it and it's looking right at me,

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and I was probably maybe fifteen yards away, you know,

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and I'm looking at it, and it's just staring at me.

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And at this point I watched it go back behind

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the tree again, and I turned around and picked up

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my tackle box and my worms, and I thought, I

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don't know what this is, but I knew it wasn't

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like us, okay, even though it had kind of changed

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and looked it almost looked almost almost like native almost,

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but except for the color of his face. And so

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I picked this up, and I'm still like, I want

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to see all of him. I want to see what

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this is. So I start flanking to the left and

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gradually making a putting distance between me and the tree

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as I flank, and also by flanking left, I would

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be able to go out of how I came into

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this inlet and there was nothing there. It was gone.

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There was nothing behind the tree, and I thought, it's

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it's time to go. And I walked out of there,

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and honestly, I looked over my shoulder. I don't know

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how many times, But I guess a question for you, Jeremiah,

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is has anybody ever described you like almost this face

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morphing into what I described to you.

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So I'm I'm thinking right now, morphing, morphing. I just

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had an interview where they saw it looked blurry as

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it went across the road, and then one of the

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Ohio sightings it looked blurry. But I don't think I've

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ever gotten a morphing one, which is really interesting to hear.

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Yeah, it's like it was just kind of for me

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into what I saw the second time was more human,

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but not if that makes sense. But so at any rate,

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you know, I headed home and I was like, so

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that's what's watching me or they are watching me when

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I'm in this area. And a little bit of history

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on this particular area. This was a winter hunting ground

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for the Lakota and going way way back, and it's

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well documented and it's more to look like a tall,

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slim First Nations. But at any rate, I mean, over time,

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I would hear, especially in the evenings, and I lived

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about a order mile from this location, and I would hear.

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I know, people describe howls, but these weren't howls. So

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this was like loud screams that would last way longer

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than anybody any human could sustain. I mean they were long,

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and it would be screams and not you know, I

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wouldn't describe it as a howl. They would be screams,

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and it would go that one scream would last and

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run out, and then it would start again, and the

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scream would go on and on, just without a breath,

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just a long, extended screams. And I kind of figured

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that it was probably them or this one. I don't know,

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but this was not the kind of scream a human

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could make. And it wasn't, you know, any whooping. I

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never heard whoops, just screams, and it was I don't know,

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I you know, I can't explain it any better than that, Jeremiah.

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It was just screams, you know, loud, and like I said,

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we were pretty rural, rural at that time, and so

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at any rate, I mean again, I use these This

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is what happened after this encounter where I actually saw it.

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For years. The railroad tracks were a shortcut to the

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woods to where I went fishing. A half mile the

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other way up the tracks, my best friend lived. And

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so at night I'm walking these tracks. All during the day,

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I'm walking these tracks home and there were times that,

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especially at night, Jeremiah, when I would be walking down

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the tracks to go home, I would get that feeling

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that I'm being watched or they're here, you know, and

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I would just know it. And you know, it's hard,

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it's hard to explain. I don't know if I'm picking

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up their energy or it's you know, I've always had

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this ability to kind of feel danger or no danger,

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just like a second I don't know, a sense, it's

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a sense as my sisters.

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Well it Patrick.

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It's interesting because so what you've told me so far

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your journey, your journey is kind of it's almost backwards

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from what I hear, which is, you know, people have

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a big foot encounter and then they start experiencing stuff

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like shadow things at home, but you were experiencing that

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from the very beginning because of your your maybe your

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background and your heritage, and it could be even in

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your DNA. It sounds like you know, your your mother

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and relatives. Perhaps we're having things happen as well. It

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is just it's really really fascinating. But I did have,

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you know, a few observations maybe a few questions for

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you from this. So you mentioned this is like the

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Lake Virginia, Minnesota area, which is you know, we walked

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through the map earlier off air, and it's kind of

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like southwest of what current Minneapolis is, right.

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Correct, it's straight west from Minneapolis.

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Absolutely.

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You said it was fifteen yards away, and a really

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good example of that be about half a basketball court.

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Does that sound about right?

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Yeah, maybe slightly less, but yeah, that's right, that's right

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in there.

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Yeah, no, gotcha, gotcha? Howse Hall would you estimate that

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it was what you saw?

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Well, I'm a little kid, so but I would say

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it was taller than my dad and he was six

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two Okay, yeah, no, so I I you know, I've

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thought about this leading up to today, and I would

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have said six to seven feet. As an adult, I

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would say somewhere in there.

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How long would you say the entire encounter lasted?

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Oh maybe five six minutes?

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Oh wow?

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And I started moving before I started flanking and heading

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away and out, probably because I just was at first.

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I was just shocked, like, you know, what is this?

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You know? And like I said, I wasn't a kid

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that would, you know, get afraid and run, you know.

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I was more observer, more of an observer, and so

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my first instinct wasn't run. My first instinct was the

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first time I saw was what in the world is that?

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And I just stood there and stared and said I

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see you. And that's again. It came around the side

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of the tree and looked at me, and it did

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look different.

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But yeah, okay, so it makes it. Man, this is

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all really theorizing. But it makes you wonder is when

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a witness has an experience like this, and a lot

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of the times it seems to like disappear behind a tree,

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if when they are out of the view of the witness,

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are they then changing form or morphing into something else?

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And because you called out to it, then it was like, okay,

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I got to take another thing. It had to take

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another look too.

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I don't know.

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That's all very conjecture, but let's see now, at any

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time when you had your sighting, didn't have any emotions

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on its.

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Face, no, none, just stared blankly at me. It didn't smile,

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it didn't It just was looking around that tree, right.

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But I mean we're looking in the each other's eyes.

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You know, there was no no expression. It was just

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blank I guess, yeah, just sure. Yeah, it was different.

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It was really different.

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Are there any details about the eyes that stood out

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from it?

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There was dark. They were dark, really dark, hard to tell.

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I'd say brown, but they were more black than brown,

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just dark eyes, dark dark eyes.

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Okay.

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And would you say they were similar to human eyes

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or were they different in any way?

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Well, I mean they were round, but in the I

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mean they were the shape of my eyes or your eyes.

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But they were bigger and just like black, dark dark,

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like dark dark brown or black. But yeah, you know,

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I didn't see see like brown eyes or blue eyes

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or green eyes and nothing like that.

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No, okay.

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Yeah, And I asked that just because some people will

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somewatnesses will say you could see whites around the edges.

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Some will say it was a whole you know, the

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whole thing. The whole eye was the same color. So

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there is some interesting reports when it comes to eyes.

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The whole eye was the same color. There was still white.

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Yeah, so yours.

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So it's interesting because you saw it look one way

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and then it came back from behind the tree and

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it looked different. Were there any big differences between like

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when it was one way and then it looked back

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at you and it was looking different. Were there any

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big differences you noticed between the two forms.

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Yes. Yeah. The first time, it was like the face

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was like long and almost like stretched long and the

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second time it looked and it didn't look human. And

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the second time it looked not almost but kind of

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human except for the eyes. The hair, there was no

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like I said, there was no hair on its face,

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but the black hair hung at least past the left shoulder,

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and it had it was wavy, and but yeah, it

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was just really really looked more like us than the

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first look, if that makes sense. When I first saw it,

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and then the second time it was what it was

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like done coming together. I don't know, it sounds crazy,

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but it's what I saw.

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It doesn't, it doesn't at all.

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Really, It's I think it's another way to look at it,

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because so from what I'm getting, it sounds like the

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first form. Let's say, if you saw both forms walking

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down the street, the second form, you wouldn't really be

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noticing as much because maybe it would be fitting in

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more as a human as opposed to the first form,

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which was totally different than a human.

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Look is that right?

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Absolutely? Absolutely yeah. And it was such a striking difference

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the second time it looked abby that it was like,

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what the heck? You know? I mean, I was like,

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kind of the first time I saw it, it was

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like what is this? You know? And the second time

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I saw it it looked more human, you know, Okay,

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I was no mistaking the first look. It was not.

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You would not say it looked kind of human.

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You wouldn't have could you tell anything about the muscular

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structure of it at all.

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I didn't get to see the chest or the legs

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or the waist.

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I just saw.

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Part of the shoulder, the forearm, the hand, and the

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second time the whole face with hair, you know, with

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long black hair. Okay, yeah, that's all I saw, never

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really saw. The second time I encountered one of these,

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I did see more, and I'll go into that with you.

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But on this very first time in my life, that

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was all I saw, and it appeared to be limb.

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I got a slim face, a slim forearm. I mean,

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it wasn't like, you know, a bodybuilder. You know. I

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would have noticed it, you know, Okay, yeah, yeah I have.

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I'd say probably about one more question for you about

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this one. So how how were you aware that it

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was a Lakota winter hunting ground.

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It's documented all around Lake Minnetonka area, and it's in

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journals and books.

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Okay, so you figured that out then later on as

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an adult, or were you aware of that as at

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the time as a younger.

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As a teenager, I looked into this area, and that's

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what I found.

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Okay, got it?

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Actually one more so, Usually when someone has an experience

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like this, it will set their life on one.

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Of two paths, which is either.

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They will get really freaked out and not want anything

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to do with this, or they will really start trying

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to figure out what they experienced. Did you go down

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any of those two paths or was it something completely different?

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Well, let me tell you after this encounter, okay, And

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I had mentioned to you the railroad tracks were like

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a road for me. Okay, there were times at night

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when I knew they were there, or he was there,

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or one of them was there. I just knew it.

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I felt it, like I felt it that day. Everything

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at night would go quiet. Now here's what's started happening

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to me and has happened to me all my life,

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is I would you know, listen, I would walk down

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the tracks at night and I would know they were there,

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and I wasn't afraid. Okay, But then there were times

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when I would get my senses would go you know,

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there's something here. I'm being watched, and it would be

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real negative, Jeremiah, a real negative, negative feeling and this

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and when this would it happen there? Yeah, I'm here.

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Can you hear me? Yeah?

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We we just cut out for a second when you

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started to say the word. I think you were saying negative. Yeah, yeah,

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oh okay, interesting, do you mind? So I think you

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were saying, there are some nights he would be very

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you would be very aware of maybe something negative.

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Yes, like a real bad a real bad feeling. And

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here's the crazy part in my head would be it

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would shout run and I would run. Now you may think,

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and I've thought about this. Was this just a kid

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being scared? Or is this what where is this voice

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coming from? I'd never had this before. And to give

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you an example, I was during the daytime. One time.

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I was laying up in the sand over a culvert

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by on the tracks and I was just kind of

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with my eyes closed, and all of a sudden, again

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it's run like that, and I popped up. I was

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sat up and I looked to my right and there's

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a tramp running down the tracks with a look on

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his face like Jeremiah. This wasn't going to be a

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good encounter with this guy. And I flew out of there,

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down past the culvert, through the bob wire fence up

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into my backyard, and I don't this didn't start till

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I saw this thing. And when when I'd have a

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vibe walking at night that they're here or I'm being

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watched kind of thing, and it was not threatening at all,

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and nothing would be said to me, okay, like we're

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here or anything like that. But when it would be

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a situation like a real bad like this isn't good,

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I feel it, Or that guy running down towards me

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who I never heard, I never heard him running at me.

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I never saw him until I heard run and I

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popped up, looked and there he was coming at me.

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Now that is just crazy, right, you know. But this

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has happened. This voice has happened to me most of

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my life. And I've said that and a lot of

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times I will just attribute it to this gift from

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my mother. But it didn't start till I saw that one.

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And this has stayed with me all my life. You know,

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in situations that were dangerous or I could you know

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which there was, you know, something like that it would

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be this voice, but never, never when I was like, Okay,

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I'm being watched. They're here and there's nothing bad's going

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to happen. But there were times when I would get

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that voice very strongly, when I'm feeling like something's watching

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me and this isn't a good one. You know, this

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isn't a good feeling, you know what I mean?

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Absolutely, I mean and would would you describe that as

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some people describe it as a thought they're having that

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doesn't fit with a normal thought they would have, or

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sometimes they're actually hearing what is a different voice than

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their own in their mind.

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It's not my voice, it's it's it's a different voice

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in my mind. You know. It's like I'm a kid

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and this is an adult voice going run you don't.

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This is not you know, my voice and at all,

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you know, but that has stuck with me for the

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rest of my life. Now, this is kind of interesting.

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You know. I had mentioned to you about my son

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and myself and I left an appointment and it was

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a medical appointment and I just felt like I needed

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to go back to this place. I don't know why,

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and it's changed. It's a lot of luxury homes, but

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some of this area is still there, and this is

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really strange. So I go out there and I turn

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my car off and I step out and I'm looking

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where that first encounter of whatever I saw, and I'm

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looking at that area and in my head and I'll

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swear on this, the voice said, you've come back. I'm

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not kidding, and I said in my head, I answered

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and said, you know, yeah, I'm sick and I don't

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know if I'll be able to come back again. And

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it didn't respond. I didn't hear anything to that at

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and I said I didn't know if I'll be coming back,

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and I told them about my son, and there was

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no response. And I stood there for a while and

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just a lot of memories flooding back, and I got

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in my car and I left, And as it turned out,

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I mean, I you know, at any rate, but yeah,

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I was absolutely stunned to hear that you've come.

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Back, Terry.

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There's there's a few things I want to address. First

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is and you probably heard me theorize about this on

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the show a bit, just because I noticed patterns after

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talking to so many people, and this is a really

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a good example. I think that when humans get in

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contact or close proximity with sasquatch or certain areas, they

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have things that they either remember how to do or

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they're unlocked. And hearing the voices in your head like

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that is a perfect example of that. Also, we had

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talked about your son off air a bit, and I

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know it is is it possible to mention how what

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happened to your son? And I'm not saying like inspecific,

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but I think it does play into another Bigfoot related

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thing as well. I just don't know if you're comfortable

469
00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:53.039
with that, and we can cut this whole part out

470
00:38:53.079 --> 00:38:53.880
as well too.

471
00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:59.559
Well, why don't I just let you know if it's

472
00:39:00.280 --> 00:39:05.159
I don't want to answer, but yeah, I'm very interested

473
00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:06.039
in your thoughts.

474
00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:09.519
Yeah, So what we had talked about before is that

475
00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:15.960
your son had passed away. Correct, correct? Okay, So I

476
00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:20.639
think that is which is as as we were talking

477
00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:24.679
about before. It's a terrible situation and you know, I'm

478
00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:28.400
sorry that you lost your your son. No one should

479
00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:33.360
ever go through that. But the connection that I see

480
00:39:33.599 --> 00:39:39.599
is that you have so many people that have experienced

481
00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:43.360
traumatic experiences, and I think that is a good example

482
00:39:43.400 --> 00:39:46.280
of one. And then they have they feel drawn to

483
00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:48.760
a certain area and then they have some sort of

484
00:39:48.760 --> 00:39:52.519
connection again, whether it's visual or or you know you

485
00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:55.559
heard you heard the voice again, you have that that connection.

486
00:39:55.599 --> 00:39:58.480
So I just thought that was a really interesting thing

487
00:39:58.519 --> 00:39:59.960
that I noticed that I wanted to make sure that

488
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:04.679
I was pointed out. So it sounds like things then

489
00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:07.360
continued to happen.

490
00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:09.519
Related to this, Patrick, Is that right?

491
00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:19.440
Yes, yes, besides that voice when there was danger, I mean,

492
00:40:21.320 --> 00:40:25.920
you know it's kind of odd, but I just I

493
00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:34.199
did not feel like with with within the situations where

494
00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:36.599
I felt like I was being watched and I would

495
00:40:36.639 --> 00:40:44.039
say something out loud. I didn't feel fear I did.

496
00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:49.199
I wasn't afraid. I just was like, would acknowledge it

497
00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:58.440
out loud? I never, I never, I mean other than

498
00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:03.079
having times where I felt just this dread and something

499
00:41:03.159 --> 00:41:07.519
would tell me to get out of their run. You

500
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:15.719
know it was I guess I I was. I was

501
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:23.960
just more curious. And I always thought that that some

502
00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:29.800
of them you don't have to be afraid of, maybe,

503
00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:34.440
and there are some I think bad ones. I really

504
00:41:34.480 --> 00:41:42.079
got that feeling. I got that impression. Uh, And I

505
00:41:42.199 --> 00:41:49.159
never had any you know, branches, rocks, anything crazy you know,

506
00:41:49.639 --> 00:41:57.199
going on like that, just a feeling of dread that

507
00:41:57.239 --> 00:42:01.079
this is not good. I'm being watched and this isn't good.

508
00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:03.360
You know. Does that make sense?

509
00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:08.639
Oh yeah, it absolutely does. Yeah yeah.

510
00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:15.119
And it's like if I felt if I felt and

511
00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:18.679
I'll give you an example of this when we go

512
00:42:18.800 --> 00:42:23.320
further here, but if I felt like I felt a

513
00:42:23.360 --> 00:42:27.280
lot of times in that area where I know you're

514
00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:31.119
watching me, why are you watching me? When I would

515
00:42:31.199 --> 00:42:35.760
say it out loud, I didn't feel like I was

516
00:42:36.119 --> 00:42:40.920
in trouble or this could get bad, or I just

517
00:42:41.039 --> 00:42:50.280
felt like I just felt like that it's okay, you know,

518
00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:55.119
I know you're here and I'm not bothering you, and

519
00:42:56.039 --> 00:42:59.599
this is you know, my place to come for peace

520
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:08.480
and and yeah yeah, so but there were times where

521
00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:15.039
I felt like something and I think Jeremiah that it

522
00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:22.719
was one of them. I think there may be more,

523
00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:29.519
you know, but definitely, for sure one of them was

524
00:43:29.719 --> 00:43:35.159
warning me that this is not one of those you know,

525
00:43:35.480 --> 00:43:39.840
people or things that are just observing or they're curious.

526
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:42.679
That's always the impression I got. Most of the time.

527
00:43:43.199 --> 00:43:46.559
It was just like a curiosity and like I was

528
00:43:46.639 --> 00:43:51.960
being observed, you know. But but nothing you know, nothing

529
00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:58.519
crazy or violent going on. Just they're watching me. They're curious.

530
00:43:58.679 --> 00:44:04.599
Maybe they're watching me. I don't know, you know, but

531
00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:08.639
but I do think that I've gotten that feeling that

532
00:44:08.679 --> 00:44:13.440
there are maybe some of these that aren't like that,

533
00:44:14.119 --> 00:44:20.360
you know, and I don't know. You know, I mentioned

534
00:44:20.360 --> 00:44:24.880
to you that I live. I live fairly close to

535
00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:30.920
the Rice Creek chain of lakes, and I fish a

536
00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:36.000
lot there. I hike a lot there. I take trails,

537
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:46.320
and I particularly I heard someone call or talk to

538
00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:52.760
you about Rondo and I know that area very well

539
00:44:53.599 --> 00:45:00.039
and still do this day go there and the this

540
00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:05.199
is the part I guess that. So I'm walking along

541
00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:11.360
a trail, right and I get the feeling, and I

542
00:45:11.440 --> 00:45:17.119
get this feeling like there's something watching. And I continue

543
00:45:17.159 --> 00:45:22.920
to walk, Jeremiah, and I hear like a loud kind

544
00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:30.679
of like limb like not broken off a tree, but

545
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:36.480
maybe limbs on the ground being stepped on and cracking. Okay,

546
00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:43.000
And I stop, and I'm feeling what I felt over

547
00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:47.000
the years, and it's like okay, And at this time

548
00:45:47.239 --> 00:45:53.519
I'd never heard of anybody else seeing or having any

549
00:45:53.639 --> 00:46:00.679
experiences there with these things. And I think, Okay, what

550
00:46:01.960 --> 00:46:09.719
is this and it stops. There's no sound, Jeremiah. So

551
00:46:09.800 --> 00:46:15.039
I start to walk again, and then I to my right,

552
00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:24.199
flanking me, it is footsteps, loud, heavy footsteps, not loud,

553
00:46:24.239 --> 00:46:29.719
but heavy. And the brush is fairly high, but there's

554
00:46:29.880 --> 00:46:35.199
openings through the brush, you know, and I can see

555
00:46:35.920 --> 00:46:43.920
through little pockets through the brush. All a sudden, a

556
00:46:44.039 --> 00:46:50.880
huge leg and a huge thigh, and it's a it's

557
00:46:51.079 --> 00:46:57.800
a real shaggy blonde colored hair, but it's mad it.

558
00:46:57.800 --> 00:47:02.119
It's really mad at, looks chunky, the fur is so

559
00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:05.599
or the hair is so mad at. And I can

560
00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:10.559
see from about the hip bone down to just above

561
00:47:10.599 --> 00:47:15.599
the ankle. And it's flanking me on my right, and

562
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:19.239
it stops when I stop. And I'm stopping when I

563
00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:26.800
can see through the brush, airy open spots where I

564
00:47:26.920 --> 00:47:32.440
can see the hip, the leg, the thigh, the knee, whatever,

565
00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:40.000
the shin just above the ankle. And it was one

566
00:47:40.039 --> 00:47:43.840
of them. But this was one of these big, big guys,

567
00:47:44.159 --> 00:47:48.559
you know. I mean, the thigh was huge, the hair

568
00:47:48.800 --> 00:47:52.800
was long, not like what I encountered years ago. But

569
00:47:54.559 --> 00:47:58.559
I didn't feel any fear. I just I was okay

570
00:47:58.599 --> 00:48:03.719
with it. And I would walk and it would walk

571
00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:09.840
and I'd stop and i'd look and it would stop,

572
00:48:10.400 --> 00:48:14.760
and I'd start walking, and it would start walking. I

573
00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:18.440
never saw the chest, or I never saw above its waist.

574
00:48:20.360 --> 00:48:26.000
But this went on for a few minutes, and I

575
00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:31.039
didn't get any voice in my head saying this is

576
00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:36.079
not a good situation, ron whatever. But it was just

577
00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:42.400
I was okay with it, right, And so then I

578
00:48:42.559 --> 00:48:48.440
stopped walking and it started. It just continued to walk,

579
00:48:49.480 --> 00:48:52.960
and I could see a little bit above the hip

580
00:48:53.719 --> 00:48:58.360
as it was making its way, probably twenty feet off

581
00:48:58.360 --> 00:49:01.920
that trail in the brush, but I could see a

582
00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:05.199
little bit more over the back of it and its

583
00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:10.199
leg and maybe above, just slightly above the hip. And

584
00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:18.159
it walked straight on to Lake Rondo, and I stood

585
00:49:18.199 --> 00:49:25.239
there and I went, okay, you know it. But I

586
00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:30.800
will say this, I did not feel any bad, you know,

587
00:49:31.480 --> 00:49:34.880
I didn't feel anything bad coming from it. It was like,

588
00:49:35.480 --> 00:49:41.760
I'm here, I'm letting you see me. I mean no harm.

589
00:49:41.920 --> 00:49:45.400
I meant no harm, and I'm just doing my thing

590
00:49:45.559 --> 00:49:49.880
and I'm walking off into the into the brush in

591
00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:55.719
the woods, and uh so I know they're there, and

592
00:49:58.400 --> 00:50:03.360
but it but physically this was not at all like

593
00:50:03.840 --> 00:50:10.320
what I This slim. Kind of the first time I

594
00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:13.840
saw something like this, it didn't look like that. It

595
00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:21.000
looked big and the thigh was big, and you know,

596
00:50:21.840 --> 00:50:25.960
and going back to this hunting grounds where I saw

597
00:50:26.039 --> 00:50:30.280
this first encounter, this is kind of maybe it's a coincidence,

598
00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:35.079
but I got married young, and my wife had been

599
00:50:35.159 --> 00:50:41.079
adopted by a Christian family, and when she had gotten

600
00:50:41.400 --> 00:50:46.360
to a legal age, she was able to subpoena the

601
00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:52.880
court to open her adoption records, and at that time

602
00:50:53.079 --> 00:50:59.880
she found out she was adopted from a Lakota fan

603
00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:05.079
And I don't know if that was a coincidence or not.

604
00:51:05.679 --> 00:51:11.400
I really don't, but it just seemed odd that there's

605
00:51:11.480 --> 00:51:14.880
that connection that I had in this area. You know,

606
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:17.719
I don't know, but I just.

607
00:51:22.599 --> 00:51:26.880
Yeah, that is that is a really wild connection. But

608
00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:31.559
also another interesting thing you said is you mentioned the

609
00:51:31.559 --> 00:51:36.440
color blonde, which I mean, it's been a while since

610
00:51:36.519 --> 00:51:39.360
I did talk to the individual I believe his name

611
00:51:39.400 --> 00:51:44.000
is Jeremy about the Rice Creek area. I want to

612
00:51:44.039 --> 00:51:48.159
say this back in six episodes six fifty eight, but Jeremy,

613
00:51:48.639 --> 00:51:52.880
you know, did call out a childhood sighting he had

614
00:51:53.000 --> 00:51:56.159
of a blonde bigfoot in the area and I know

615
00:51:56.480 --> 00:52:03.159
that there's a BFROO report from an area just north

616
00:52:03.199 --> 00:52:08.039
of the Twin Cities where they saw what they were

617
00:52:08.079 --> 00:52:09.960
a few girls saw what they were saying was a

618
00:52:09.960 --> 00:52:14.039
blonde gorilla just north of the Twin Cities. There's definitely

619
00:52:14.159 --> 00:52:15.000
a pattern there.

620
00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:16.199
What yell about it?

621
00:52:16.639 --> 00:52:17.480
Was it that you had.

622
00:52:20.199 --> 00:52:23.800
Twenty fifteen? I would say would be pretty accurate.

623
00:52:25.679 --> 00:52:37.760
Twenty fifteen, Okay, I have.

624
00:52:39.199 --> 00:52:44.599
I've visited the Rice Creek area myself. I wanted I

625
00:52:44.639 --> 00:52:47.719
wanted to check it out. We were going through the area.

626
00:52:48.440 --> 00:52:52.760
It is very interesting because there's a lot of houses

627
00:52:52.800 --> 00:52:56.480
up there, but then you get to this area where

628
00:52:57.199 --> 00:53:00.239
you know there are all these lakes and all of this.

629
00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:04.000
There's a lot of nature up there. There's a lot

630
00:53:04.000 --> 00:53:08.760
of places for things to hide. I know, even Doug Hicheck,

631
00:53:08.840 --> 00:53:11.239
I talked to him in that same episode. I believe

632
00:53:11.800 --> 00:53:15.960
about a sighting he'd had up there as well. And

633
00:53:16.159 --> 00:53:19.519
I think one of his employees had sightings up there too.

634
00:53:19.639 --> 00:53:26.239
But I mean, I think people here Minneapolis and they

635
00:53:26.840 --> 00:53:29.159
might be like, well, I don't know, But then guys,

636
00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:31.840
if you really look into it, there are a lot

637
00:53:32.039 --> 00:53:37.679
a lot of nature areas around Minneapolis, and I'm really

638
00:53:37.719 --> 00:53:44.320
not surprised that people continually have these sightings of a

639
00:53:44.519 --> 00:53:46.400
blonde colored bigfoot.

640
00:53:46.679 --> 00:53:54.039
I believe there's a family in there, and I just think,

641
00:53:54.440 --> 00:53:57.960
just like I felt when I was a kid growing up,

642
00:53:58.079 --> 00:54:02.159
I felt that it was like a group, a family

643
00:54:02.639 --> 00:54:09.719
or Yeah. I didn't feel like it was a one

644
00:54:09.880 --> 00:54:15.679
solo by itself out there. I've always felt that there

645
00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:21.039
was a group, like a family type group, you know.

646
00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:25.559
And I felt that way in Rice Creek too, And

647
00:54:25.639 --> 00:54:28.480
I've spent a lot of time in Rice Creek over

648
00:54:28.519 --> 00:54:36.679
the years. Excuse me, but yeah, but I didn't get that.

649
00:54:38.199 --> 00:54:41.519
You know, the whole time, I was not afraid. I

650
00:54:41.559 --> 00:54:46.199
didn't feel any bad, anything bad about it. I just

651
00:54:46.280 --> 00:54:51.719
felt like it was showing itself to me, letting me

652
00:54:51.880 --> 00:54:58.239
know it was there. I really do. And I don't

653
00:54:58.239 --> 00:55:00.960
know how to explain another th I felt like it

654
00:55:01.159 --> 00:55:05.679
was showing itself to me, you know, this one was

655
00:55:06.159 --> 00:55:11.000
in Rice Creek. And I mean, i'd like to think

656
00:55:11.039 --> 00:55:15.719
that they get the vibe from me that I'm not,

657
00:55:17.199 --> 00:55:26.079
you know, looking to hurt them or I'm just you know,

658
00:55:26.559 --> 00:55:31.480
I'm just coexisting, you know. And I don't mean anybody

659
00:55:31.840 --> 00:55:35.880
in them any harm, you know. And I think they

660
00:55:35.920 --> 00:55:37.679
pick up on that. I do.

661
00:55:37.880 --> 00:55:40.320
Oh, I agree one hundred percent. I think.

662
00:55:42.280 --> 00:55:45.360
The intention that you have when you go out, and

663
00:55:45.400 --> 00:55:48.639
that can go from anyone. Like you have some people

664
00:55:48.760 --> 00:55:52.239
that have, you know, like they're almost hunting them in

665
00:55:52.280 --> 00:55:54.159
a way. You have some people where they just want

666
00:55:54.159 --> 00:56:01.039
to connect and you know, in a positive way. And

667
00:56:01.119 --> 00:56:06.239
I think that that really is important.

668
00:56:06.599 --> 00:56:08.119
And I think.

669
00:56:12.599 --> 00:56:16.119
I think if people focused on that a lot more,

670
00:56:16.519 --> 00:56:19.199
that they would be surprised.

671
00:56:19.960 --> 00:56:24.199
And I don't say that, you know, claim to you know,

672
00:56:24.719 --> 00:56:28.280
have some mental connection with them or anything like that.

673
00:56:28.559 --> 00:56:32.320
I'm just I can only tell my truth and my

674
00:56:32.599 --> 00:56:39.159
experience and you know, but I do believe there are

675
00:56:39.639 --> 00:56:44.960
ones that we don't want to be around. I really am.

676
00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:51.599
I really believe that. I do believe that. Now.

677
00:56:52.440 --> 00:56:54.840
I think you're I think you're on the right right

678
00:56:54.920 --> 00:56:58.199
track there. There's definitely I mean because you hear them right,

679
00:56:58.280 --> 00:57:01.559
Like you listen to to different shows and you know,

680
00:57:01.599 --> 00:57:04.639
I talk to people and it's like there's sometimes out

681
00:57:04.639 --> 00:57:07.519
there where, you know, as Tom Sewood says, there could

682
00:57:07.559 --> 00:57:10.159
be a rogue and you need to be aware of

683
00:57:11.280 --> 00:57:14.000
you know, how to be safe for my situation, right.

684
00:57:14.480 --> 00:57:19.199
I absolutely agree with that. I think that's I think

685
00:57:21.039 --> 00:57:25.519
the ones that are not like those types are the

686
00:57:25.599 --> 00:57:32.480
ones that we're telling me run get away. You know.

687
00:57:32.559 --> 00:57:36.559
I really feel like it was a warning to go,

688
00:57:37.199 --> 00:57:43.639
you know. And I don't know, I don't know, but

689
00:57:44.880 --> 00:57:49.559
you know, Jeremiah, I guess I'd like to say just

690
00:57:49.639 --> 00:57:55.159
one last thing, and that is what I think they are, Okay,

691
00:57:56.280 --> 00:58:04.639
And what I think they are is an ancient, ancient people.

692
00:58:05.760 --> 00:58:10.920
And I think that we branched off, but I believe

693
00:58:10.960 --> 00:58:18.679
they're really old, and I believe ancient old. And you know,

694
00:58:19.400 --> 00:58:23.360
I think when you consider if they're as old as

695
00:58:23.559 --> 00:58:29.880
I think they are, the size, the strength, the cunning,

696
00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:37.880
the speed, you would have to have all those things

697
00:58:39.199 --> 00:58:44.920
to survive, whether it was dire wolves or saber tooth

698
00:58:45.039 --> 00:58:48.199
tigers or if they're as old as I think they are,

699
00:58:49.239 --> 00:58:53.559
I mean, that would be how you would have to

700
00:58:53.639 --> 00:59:00.840
be to survive. And I just think they're some offshoot

701
00:59:00.920 --> 00:59:05.320
of us that is very, very old. That's what I think.

702
00:59:08.559 --> 00:59:10.960
Any thoughts on that, mm hm.

703
00:59:13.760 --> 00:59:18.360
That maybe maybe even Yeah, it's it's it's a really

704
00:59:18.480 --> 00:59:23.039
interesting because it's it almost feels sometimes I'll think it's like, well,

705
00:59:24.280 --> 00:59:27.400
you know, does it go back to prehistoric times, and

706
00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:31.559
like you even even other cryptid reports if you look

707
00:59:31.599 --> 00:59:33.480
at them a certain way, and I'm talking about like

708
00:59:33.559 --> 00:59:39.760
there's the white giant sloths of New York or and

709
00:59:39.880 --> 00:59:43.679
sometimes you're like, man, some of these cryptids almost feel

710
00:59:43.800 --> 00:59:48.719
like they're similar to the animals that you'll learn about

711
00:59:48.760 --> 00:59:51.280
if you look in the prehistoric times. Or is there

712
00:59:52.280 --> 00:59:55.480
maybe an area where they're hanging out and they're they're

713
00:59:55.519 --> 00:59:56.000
able to.

714
00:59:56.360 --> 00:59:58.519
Be saved through the years, or are there portals?

715
00:59:58.519 --> 01:00:00.679
I mean, there's so many questions. You can go on

716
01:00:00.800 --> 01:00:04.000
rabbit Trail after rabbit Trail, I don't know. It is

717
01:00:04.119 --> 01:00:11.440
really interesting, That's what I believe, I guess, and we

718
01:00:11.519 --> 01:00:14.239
wouldn't have survived in the form we're in.

719
01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:22.440
You know, But at any rate, I mean, you know,

720
01:00:23.119 --> 01:00:26.760
I just want to say that's my story and that's

721
01:00:27.079 --> 01:00:33.440
my truth, and I really appreciate you having me on

722
01:00:34.039 --> 01:00:38.639
and sharing your platform. I've never told this story to

723
01:00:38.760 --> 01:00:45.360
anyone other than my wife, but that's my truth.

724
01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:49.360
And Patrick, it means so much that you're able to

725
01:00:49.400 --> 01:00:54.760
come on the show. Why was it important to share it?

726
01:00:56.239 --> 01:00:59.159
Well, it has a lot to do with the loss

727
01:00:59.199 --> 01:01:05.840
of my h and I never had a chance to

728
01:01:05.960 --> 01:01:17.199
have this conversation with him, and uh, I guess it's

729
01:01:17.559 --> 01:01:24.519
just kind of my way of just honoring him.

730
01:01:26.320 --> 01:01:29.960
Thank you, Thank you Patrick. That that is I think

731
01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:33.880
that is that is a perfect way to honor, to

732
01:01:34.000 --> 01:01:37.280
honor your son. Thank you so much for for hanging

733
01:01:37.320 --> 01:01:40.039
out with me today, for sharing what you've experienced over

734
01:01:40.039 --> 01:01:43.920
the years. If you do, you know, experience anything else

735
01:01:44.239 --> 01:01:46.639
in the future, I would love to hear about it.

736
01:01:46.800 --> 01:01:48.840
Thank you so much for for hanging out today.

737
01:01:48.880 --> 01:01:49.079
Sir.

738
01:01:49.559 --> 01:01:52.559
Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity

739
01:01:52.639 --> 01:01:55.840
around Oakridge, Oregon? And you think to yourself, Man, I

740
01:01:55.880 --> 01:01:58.719
would love to get out in those woods and experience

741
01:01:58.760 --> 01:02:03.280
it for myself. Well, guess what this year you can

742
01:02:03.960 --> 01:02:06.920
If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's

743
01:02:06.920 --> 01:02:11.880
pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July tenth

744
01:02:11.960 --> 01:02:15.920
through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's gonna be even

745
01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:19.840
better than the previous year's reason number one, I'll be

746
01:02:19.840 --> 01:02:22.960
one of the speakers. It's gonna be wild. I'll probably

747
01:02:24.159 --> 01:02:28.280
I'll say this, there may be stuff you haven't heard

748
01:02:28.400 --> 01:02:34.440
anywhere else, because let's just say, sometimes it's well, you

749
01:02:34.559 --> 01:02:37.000
just gotta be there. We'll leave it that more about

750
01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:39.800
looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now check this out.

751
01:02:40.480 --> 01:02:45.719
You may know Jason Kenzie from his documentary series Searching

752
01:02:45.760 --> 01:02:50.000
for Sasquatch. Well, this year you can not only go

753
01:02:50.119 --> 01:02:54.320
to the festival, but you can also sign up for

754
01:02:56.800 --> 01:03:01.360
a track Deep in the Wild four outside of Oakridge

755
01:03:01.400 --> 01:03:06.320
with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot spots to look for Bigfoot.

756
01:03:06.719 --> 01:03:10.519
There's only eight spots to sign up for this, and yes,

757
01:03:11.199 --> 01:03:14.239
this will also be filmed for the next chapter in

758
01:03:14.280 --> 01:03:17.679
his documentary series, which is Searching for Sasquatch. This is

759
01:03:17.679 --> 01:03:20.199
a once in a lifetime deal. It's just trust it's

760
01:03:20.199 --> 01:03:25.119
going to be a wild, wild experience. To get a ticket,

761
01:03:25.519 --> 01:03:29.519
head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest dot com and listeners

762
01:03:29.519 --> 01:03:35.039
can use the code b sp like Bigfoot Society podcast

763
01:03:35.599 --> 01:03:37.639
in order to get a two day pass for the

764
01:03:37.639 --> 01:03:41.880
price of a one day pass. So thanks to Priscilla

765
01:03:42.159 --> 01:03:46.880
for giving me that code so that you guys can

766
01:03:48.880 --> 01:03:51.960
can get a little a little help with the costs there.

767
01:03:52.159 --> 01:03:55.840
Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to see you at the

768
01:03:55.880 --> 01:03:59.920
booth in Oakridge this year. We can talk about your encounter.

769
01:04:00.239 --> 01:04:02.559
Was able to talk to so many people last year

770
01:04:02.679 --> 01:04:06.840
and the year before. It is an incredible time. You're

771
01:04:06.840 --> 01:04:08.599
not going to want to miss it, and I'll see

772
01:04:08.599 --> 01:04:12.960
you there. Before we wrap this episode, I want to

773
01:04:12.960 --> 01:04:16.239
say something directly to a very specific group of listeners.

774
01:04:16.480 --> 01:04:20.199
If you're in the military, any branch or forces, and

775
01:04:20.239 --> 01:04:23.199
if you've seen something that no one can explain, or

776
01:04:23.199 --> 01:04:26.280
if you're a National park ranger or forestry worker who's

777
01:04:26.320 --> 01:04:29.159
been told to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot

778
01:04:29.199 --> 01:04:32.719
who's seen something strange down on the ground, or if

779
01:04:32.760 --> 01:04:36.320
you're with the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence

780
01:04:36.519 --> 01:04:39.519
and you've stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about.

781
01:04:39.840 --> 01:04:42.760
And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue

782
01:04:42.760 --> 01:04:46.679
responder who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense.

783
01:04:47.199 --> 01:04:51.039
If you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field,

784
01:04:51.199 --> 01:04:54.199
or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something

785
01:04:54.280 --> 01:04:57.679
happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're

786
01:04:57.719 --> 01:05:01.599
a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under

787
01:05:01.639 --> 01:05:05.000
contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

788
01:05:05.519 --> 01:05:08.000
If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

789
01:05:08.039 --> 01:05:11.519
spiritual retreat, and you saw something that shook your faith.

790
01:05:12.199 --> 01:05:15.320
Or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA or

791
01:05:15.360 --> 01:05:18.719
anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

792
01:05:20.079 --> 01:05:23.559
then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

793
01:05:25.320 --> 01:05:28.840
You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

794
01:05:29.280 --> 01:05:31.719
The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

795
01:05:31.760 --> 01:05:37.679
carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story,

796
01:05:38.079 --> 01:05:41.920
We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank

797
01:05:41.920 --> 01:05:44.800
you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast.

798
01:05:44.880 --> 01:05:47.280
Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is

799
01:05:47.320 --> 01:05:50.480
bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth

800
01:05:50.519 --> 01:05:53.360
is often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you

801
01:05:53.480 --> 01:05:56.199
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808
01:06:15.039 --> 01:06:17.239
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809
01:06:17.679 --> 01:06:20.159
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810
01:06:20.280 --> 01:06:23.679
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811
01:06:23.679 --> 01:06:26.519
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01:06:43.679 --> 01:06:46.400
you are. Thanks again for following along with the Bigfoot

818
01:06:46.440 --> 01:06:49.880
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819
01:06:49.920 --> 01:06:52.199
and never stop asking what else might be out there?

820
01:06:52.360 --> 01:06:53.320
And see you in the woods.