Montana Bigfoot Stories (Archive Episode)

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Welcome to the Big for Society.
In this archival episode from twenty twenty three,

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I talked to Ken Metzger about the
many bigfoot encounters he's gathered in the

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wild state of Montana. If you've
experienced something similar to what Ken has,

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or have more information regarding bigfoot or
other cryptids in the same area, please

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reach out immediately after this episode.
And if you've had an encounter and you'd

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like to be on the show,
please contact me directly at Bigfoot Society at

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gmail dot com. Also make sure
you check out big for Society podcast dot

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com, where you can become a
member and get extra episodes. All right,

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Big for Society got the privilege of
talking to a new friend tonight,

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mister Ken Metzger from the Montana Bigfoot
International Research Group. How's it going,

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Ken, It's going real good,
guys, Donia. We're gearing up for

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this year's field research trips in Montana
plus by Colorado, Oregon, and Idaho.

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Again. I love it. So
a few quick words about Ken.

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He is a bigfoot researcher out there
in Montana and he's got some really interesting

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stories. Ken, is there anything
else that our listeners would need to know?

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About you to except the stage before
we start chatting. I've had,

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I've come to believe now encounters with
Bigfoot. When I was young in the

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mountains, when I used to take
off and go camping things, I'd see

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structures, something large walked away by
petal. So I've been around it for

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a long time and I really didn't
get into it until my first sighting in

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nineteen seventy eight. I have to
know what I saw, especially when you

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know it's not a bear. It
has intrigued me. It's become a quest

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for me. That hiked into an
alpine lake out a Divorcier, Montana,

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Crystal Lake, and I spent the
day fishing. Coming out, I had

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seen bear scat and everything, so
you've become cautious, especially when you're carrying

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trout. And I could hear a
log being torn apart off this old logging

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road. So I stopped, dropped, put the kreole on my shoulders I

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could drop it. I had to
what walked upon the road was not a

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bear? Was walking upright? And
it was. I had asked tomate between

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seven and a half to eat and
a half foot tall. It was covered

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in sharp black hair, long muscular
arms, a barrel chest. The legs

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were muscular. The hands appeared to
have no hair on them, as did

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the feet. The face, how
do you say? The head was rounded

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with small ears, and when it
turned its head you could see for crude

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eyebrows. The nose of somewhat flapped. The mouth was a little bit open.

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You could see the bottom two dog
teas looked at me, and they

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went up a steep bank in two
steps. It was a real steep bank,

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and then started pairing in the road. Of course, I period it

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was time to get out of there, which I did, and then I

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stopped and I built a little rock
thing. And I've always been taught to

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you go out, you always return
something. So I dropped some chout by

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it and I left. Now,
this is a seven and a half mile

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hike in and out, so you're
talking fifteen miles round trip. And I

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was the only one in there.
And there's been reports of that area,

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a lot sightings up in that area, in the hog and do Borchia area.

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Tree knocks, visuals. I'd have
them knock on the side of the

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house when I lived up there.
All of the night. Yeah, you

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hear real quick raps. So we
knew they were out there. You could

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smell them cutting fire. Would you
take a break all seen? You hear

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a real sharp tree knox And it
wasn't the wind knocket trees in in the

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Mon's too much to be able to
know that. Wow, Yeah, I

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had no idea Montana was so squatchy. To be honest, we have.

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I got reports from the Missouri breaks, Cut Bank, Sydney, the Big

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Hole, the Bear Tooth, the
Bob Marshall, the Pentler Cellway area,

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bigfoot sightings, and there's not many
groups in Montana that's going out there because

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there's no guarantee of to find anything. There's always that chance, there's always

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a chance that have an account.
Giving example, we didn't know we had

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captured that juvenile and that's been verified
as an unknown bipedal creature. It's not

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a bar er human. Just prior
to that, something largeer smelling the window

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of the mortar home where the wife
was sleeping. She woke up. She

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didn't wake me up. She got
up, went out in the dining room.

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It's because the blind rift. She
went and laid back down. She

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didn't wake me up, but she
got up, and I got up and

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that's what was wrong. She told
me. She said she heard it walk

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away heavy footsteps. So the next
morning I went out and measured from the

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flat of the ground to where she
pointed on the window was nine and a

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half feet. To put a creature
ten foot or better. It's the same

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time that small when a six foot
was standing by the jeep. Listeners,

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if you want to check out this
vie, you just go to the Montana

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Bigfoot Research Group dot com and it
is on there for you to view.

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I'll definitely have that link in the
show notes as well. I've watched it

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more than a few times myself,
and I'm like, man, I don't

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know, I really don't know.
Yeah, a little bit of the history

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of that area. Jeff, which
is a co founder, he's the one

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that actually got me to open up
the MONTETA. They put inter National Research

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Group because of his curiosity, and
now my primary online researcher is out of

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Malaysia. He worked for the Canadian
Force Service. He said, through what

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he finds and reposted on our Facebook
site, and they're up there. What

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caught Jeff's eye was the footprints in
the snow that just wandered off on a

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main game trail and then his son
was down by where we normally have our

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base camp, playing with the dog, and also in a big rock was

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thrown into the water and someone buy
petle walked away. And every time we

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go up there, something happens.
So I continue going to the area because

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there is activity. You'll hear it
sounds like a screech out, but it's

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not a screech out. You'll hear
coyotes, but they're not coyotes. You'll

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hear twenty birds sounds. So these
are the areas we returned to you because

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eventually we're going to get that little
thing on video camp I put out.

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I'll have ten trail camps put out
there, and I have two around the

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camp. We're deploying two drones this
year, a larger one and a small

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one. See what we can catch
from the air. What kind of drones

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are you guys using there? Then
taitar drones, they're only good for the

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day. At night time, my
night vision binoculars or I can record that

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has sim cards, I can record
through them, but not at a distance.

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And I'll give an example I made
on my video cam which has voice

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recording. It records at night two, but you're only limited by distance.

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Example, I was over in Saint
Mary's and I have two photographs of something

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avoiding black It looks like your shoulder
avoiding the trail camp. My trail comes

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are setting work from six and a
half to seve and half foot off the

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ground, so it's not there.
I've gotten deer, elk, moose,

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wolves on the trail camps already.
The night we went out with my steps

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on last and I had it appeared
to be a tube and now looking at

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us through the trees. Wow.
I tried to get a recording when I

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dropped the pdoctors and putting back up
was gone. A little later, I

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was scanning a tree line and there
was a large one standing their watchings.

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Just after that, me and Josh
was standing there and a big log complying

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between the two of us from behind. Hold on, hold on, okay,

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here we go. You guys are
watching the tree line and all of

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a sudden, a huge log gets
thrown at you. Yeah, coming from

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behind us. So there's bore the
one there. Oh dude, they were

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sneaky. They snuck up behind you
and they were going to take you out

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from behind. Yeah, So we
decided it was part of prudent to lead

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the motor home in the house.
Yeah, but I did all the call,

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the ooh call, okay, and
I got coyotes in response for weren't

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coyotes? Have you gotten interesting audio
on recorded when you're out there? You

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always recording audio? Or yes,
I have. I also have a sonic

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listing device which these headphones go to. Oh sure, so I can pick

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up anything in the distance and it
does recording and I put it in on

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cassette, which is I'm transferred out
to a flash star. It's what I

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was looking for today. I probably
have twenty one recordings of different sounds I've

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actually recorded myself. So when I
do get those out, I'll send them

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to you. Yeah, thank you, that'd be awesome. Yeah, and

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I said they're here Philipsburg Drumedaries,
cattle country. During the calving season,

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calves come up missing. It's not
wolves taking it. They actually put prints

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Leinois. Ohoh really, so you're
I would guess ranchers are finding these footprints.

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Yeah, and they're like large,
they're pretty much bigfoot type footprints there

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in eighteen to twenty two inches.
Yeah, you know, I consider that.

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Oh my goodness. Yea, even
during a fawning season for deer,

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cabin seasons for elk and moose,
I'm sure Bigfoot takes the babies. This

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is an animal that's capable of killing
them, a deer, an elk in

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the history of it. In eighteen
fifty one in Arkansas, two guys watched

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a Bigfoot chasing cattle trying to grab
it, and eighteen forty six actually found

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twenty two inch tracks in the snow. That's an Arkansas part of doing research

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or Bigfoot, you've got to find
when the first are kind of recordings not

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considered. I can talk about the
Native American because it's there in pictographs,

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and then the legends if you talk
to the Pawnees in the Southwest, the

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war they had with him, the
Native's up on the West coast, the

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war they had with Bigfoot, and
where there was Vonnie Trots growing, which

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you want to go back. Now, the earliest account I've been able to

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find is nine eighty six a d. And that's sleeve ericson the Newfoundland.

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He describes large, harry, smelly
creatures that were very aggressive, and then

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in seventeen ninety three santiicco I can't
say it's predationing. He was commissioned by

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the Spanish king to explore the west
coast of South America North America. He

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wrote in his Journals of Large Bipedal
Creatures. Wow. When Lewis and Clark

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was headed through the exploring the Louisiana
purchase, they were warned but mad dans

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the Shoshone, the Blackfoot about large
bipe. Harry then in the mouth and

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set like to steal horses and need
them. And it's in that journal somewhere,

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and I've been trying to find it. I have the passage at one

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time. There's a history of it, and some we can't ignore it.

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They've been run a lot longer than
we have. And whether they come across

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the land bridge or they're related to
giant pithecus, we don't know now.

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Expeditioning to Tibet and am real high
off. Final Ly, nobody goes into

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They did e DNA and it come
back as ninety eight percent human. Now

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what we have to understand there's only
two to three percent difference in our DNA

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to us and the giant primates.
The gorilla is, the chimpanzees and orangutans

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interesting there's a lot out there,
and you're going to hear say, you

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know, people want the attention,
and my standing policy for my group and

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that we I don't want the attention. I want answers. What we learn

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helps you the people come to understand, because the scientists ain't going to tell

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us the government and they all ain't
going to tell us. So it's up

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to just individual ones out there willing
to take the time and make the connections

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with the other groups. And hopefully
your research helps out other people and their

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research helps out yours, and just
hopefully people keep connecting and play nice so

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that can happen. Spring is pretty
much confirmed. I've got one research group

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in Colorado that's coming. I've got
a squatch highway out of Oregon, Bruce

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He's coming. And then in the
fall. I returned to that area twice

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a year in the spring, and
in the fall, I've got another group

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coming out of Texas to do it, and we'll be there for two weeks,

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coming to that your research area.
But we're also the ones out there

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doing it. We don't talk much
about it. I will post on the

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domain or on my Facebook site some
of the stuff we do come across The

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first thing I want to know more
about is in the name itself international research

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groups. So obviously you guys are
researching at Montana, but what is it

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that makes it an international thing?
Oh, I get reports from Wales,

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Germany, Scotland, the Philippines,
Malaysia, Borneo, dialand Australia. You

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have to be international because I have
members from all over the world. We

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actually have twenty three countries, members
in twenty three countries. Fascinating in the

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encounters, the cliff Eagle speaker Substan
Blackfoot Indian Reservation talked about what him is.

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Girlfriend saw a bipedal creature walking and
then you go beyond that and this

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is all on there. The one
in Wales, it was July eighteenth,

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twenty twenty one. A guy was
digging the ditch and he looked up and

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saw a large bipedal creature walking towards
him. And when I saw him,

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it took off. And then the
reports out of Malaysia and Borneo of the

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Pindeca which is what they call that
they put down there. It's a smaller

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one and it's more oranges in color. So we do get these reports.

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I was telling you, I don't
know when I'll get a message with somebody

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else this is what we've seen.
And then what I do is an immediately

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go online. I start researching let's
say Wales. How many sightings have been

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in Wales. You'll be surprised how
many of them, how many in England.

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You always do a follow up to
make sure you're not getting bis And

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everything I'm finding is back in what
they're telling us. In the research area

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that the Montana Group has. Are
you all focusing on getting a certain type

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of evidence or is it pretty much
whatever you can find footprints or audio or

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video, or you just throwing everything
at it. This year we're going to

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concentrate on footprints, looking for hair
samples, those that go into actually in

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the field. I want them collecting
small empty bird nests, birds who use

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hair to line their nests, hair
off of our horses that any hair,

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And I do have a microscope I
can look to see if I've got the

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written that I can send into a
lab. We want to get actually better

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vocalizations beyond catch something on video.
We have the definite proof and this takes

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time. It's not something that I
don't think people realize just how intense field

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research is absolutely, because we have
two groups during the day. Now I

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try to narrow to one group at
night because somebody gets lost and say whole

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lot harder to find them that night
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because this is rugged, rough country. That's the thing. Because and it's

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not just bigfoot, you have to
be you have extremely large predators besides Bigfoot

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up there as well. Right.
Yes, we have wolves, we have

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mountain lions, we have black bears, we have grizzlies. Oh, grizzlies.

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Wow, yeah, the big ones. These are big hump back grizzlies

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and they're not friendly. We have
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not bigfoot. Eighthex predators in the
area, Kyotz. I don't worry about

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bobcasts or links. We do have
those, sure too, But it's the

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big the primary ones. A mountainlined
at, wolves, the bears, possibly

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bigfoot. Do they take humans?
Unknown question? Wow? Have there is

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there a history of bigfoot sightings in
Montana that you're aware of. I know

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you you've looked into different history reports
in different parts of the US, but

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have you found any of how far
things go back into Montana itself? Oh?

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There is report will be from Lewis
and Clark, Okay written all the

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Native, the black Feet, and
the Blackfoot in their legend goes they were

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according to them, they were already
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Then get farther south into the southwest. Yawani and the Zuni all have

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a history. They actually have a
dance. It's a Bigfoot dance. It's

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not really Yeah, well that is
cool. That is cool. So when

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you're doing research, this is the
whole thing is, you've got to look

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at everything. You got to have
an open mind. You can't be a

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skeptic and say, oh, that
didn't happen. We used to keep on

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coming across the same thing over and
over, but from different sources. There's

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something, there's a basis there.
You've got to find out why they were

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saying what, where, when,
and why, those of which are turned

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to answer. Do you feel like
you have adequate evidence to prove its existence

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in Montana? Are you still reaching
for a better piece? Hopefully next year?

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I think we do. I do, but I want that conclusive piece.

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You know. It's it's better be
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And that's why it's just up there
there to go. Because I'm now

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by myself and I have the big
I have a big mortar on the class

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A and I tow my jeep behind. I can go out and spend weeks.

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As long as I got propane and
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doing field research. And it's just
a matter of being there at the right

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time. Yeah, and the one
area there's unusual things happens the Bear Tooth

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Range. People come up missing there
and they don't know. Why are you

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talking about missing four on one stuff? Yeah, maybe it's an aggressive bigfoot

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in those mountains that are actually killing
people. Wow. How is it that

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you say, have you heard reports
or there's bad steam that you know it's

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an aggressive bigfoot? Somebody's missing.
They find them and it looked like they

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got the person's gone through meat gender
as all the bones are crushed. Whoa,

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I'm next broken? Wow, skulls
crushed in, ribs are crushed,

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legs are broken. Some have been
found wrapped around the tree. Wow,

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wrapped around a tree. That's extremely
intense. I don't know if you read

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heard on that the drug dealers the
sheriff knew about. They were going to

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do a bus They are in your
group. No, this is someone else

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and this is a different in your
group. That was incredible. Go on

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with your the nine one one called
a receipt. They could hear gunfire and

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they kept the people were saying,
el monsterio. Of course the cops are

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going to respond. When they got
there, it was all quiet. They

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found all this animal had been shot. They found the bodies just tore apart.

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The backside of the trailer was completely
ripped open. The little girl come

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out and all she would say,
monster, the monster. Right, yeah,

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you know eight canyons another one those
gold prospectors. Why do you of

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course them? But if you listen
to what they said, they shot at

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bigfoot, killing one and wounding one. Bigfoot. Reprisal was they were going

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to get those guys. Now,
the report you referred to in bear Tooth,

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I'm guessing that kind of behavior isn't
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Is it almost more aggressive than you
would see more bear? Really?

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Yeah, it's more aggressive grizzly.
If he takes he's he's going to eat

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you r a bear yet? Okay, like you're not going to be there

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anymore? Right all? Yeah?
Okay, yeah, wow, And these

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are different, these are different.
That's more reported attacks in the bear Tooth

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by something unknowing, and bears are
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How far back to these missing reports? Go for a Bear Tooth nineteen

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thirty eight. Really, yeah,
it's been happening all along. It's been

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happening along. Oh man. Wow. Yeah, people have never been into

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the botb marshap. The only way
in there is by horseback or foot.

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I used to work for the outfitters
as a camp cook during hunting season.

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I saw that day was not a
bear. What did you see? I'm

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sitting there watching the slide just across
the stream, and I watched a group

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of elk, heard of elks come
out. They looked at cows, they

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turned around and took off back the
way they had come. What walked out

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on that trail was and the bear
was walking upright after across the clearing the

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slide. There was two real loud
tree knocks. Wow. And that night

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when the federal game warning because I'd
asked the outfitter about it, and the

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outfitter told the game ward and Ken
saw the big guy and they got game

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warn and started laughing. Ken saw
the big guy. That's what he said,

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yeah, man, Dad, after
that it's it's all bets are off.

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You must have been like, it's
on, Yeah, it's on.

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Now. That makes me yeah,
you know, like I was saying,

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it's just not the only kind of
give no dixample of why I know I've

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been around them. I used to
run a winter trap line for beaver and

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coyotes in that up up place off
of the Blackfoot. Back then there were

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logged and so they had the road
plot. I had an area and I'd

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set my base camp up and then
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I had Alaska trails modified sure,
so I'd make my coyote sets and I

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always use conna bears quick kills.
I don't believe in now I'm suffering.

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I had a left to get supplies
and come back now and start running my

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line. Probably about a mile from
the camp, one of the coves was

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tore up. There's a coyote hid
in the trap, but nobody really Yeah,

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but you could see tracks leading the
way, but it was covered with

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snow. So I continued to where
I'd spend the night. Then my next

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I had to come back along Gold
Cricket itself. On my beaver sets,

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there were beaver traps totally destroyed,
pulled out the water. So something took

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the beaver. Yeah, and there
again tracks and you're talking tracks sixteen seventeen

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eighteen inches that were covered in snow. You can definitely tell really yeah,

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oh man, So do you get
scared? I think you do, but

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you become more cautious and alert to
your surrounding area. Sure. I have

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a standing policy when any of my
kids go with me, listen to the

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forest, the woods, the mountains. They're going to tell you a story,

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all right, And most people don't
understand. It's like fine squirrels,

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if they sound off in a distance, they have an alarm. Pay attention.

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Okay, if they start sounding up
as they're coming towards you, I

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mean something's coming. And I've hat
bears. I've seen bears. Actually the

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squirrels are just they had of the
bears. Is that I'm indicated? Yes,

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I was going to ask you earlier
the missing people reports in bear Tooth.

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Are those things you've just researched yourself, or did you find those were

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those in a certain area gathered together
or I knew one of the deputy sheriffs

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done in that area. I want
to say, yeah, okay, so

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you have yeah, yeah, you
know, to say to protect him.

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He knew I'm into the bigfoot stuff
and he got to talk to me.

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They get at least two three parts
a year when they hear stuff. They're

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coming to you. Yeah, I'll
get a phone calls. Hey can another

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guy's missing now, Chief Joseph,
which is to pass out of the Bitter

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Rut into Idaho. You're swinging over
there into the Big Hole. And anybody

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that knows about the Big Hole,
that's where the nets Erst had really the

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first contact with the Calgary one.
Chief Joseph is escaping from Idaho. They

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have a signence of a bipedal creature
quite often around that campground really, and

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it's not a bear. So that
on my list this year to actually go

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in and set up a camp,
my mortar home and everything, and spend

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some time, put out trail cams
and try some things that'll make local news.

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When that happened, Yeah, people
in Montana are real reserved about talking

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with the experience. Okay, Unibarmber
Lincoln, Montana or the Unibamber was found

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Tedkison's home man. This episode's gonna
brings some red flags and algorithms. Slit's

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party. Yeah. Anyway, Well, when the berry was staked up the

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cabin, they watched a mountainline kill
a deer. Ain't nowhere really? All

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that? Oh yeah was nowhere?
They're going to get off that car.

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There hasband reports of the locals and
let's sing about people, Monte, they're

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so close mouth. Now. I
do have a member that's going to meet

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me sometime this summer up at Lincoln
to show me some of these areas,

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which I'm always happy to go to. I'm looking at it as an adventure,

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but it's an adventure for knowledge,
for understand ending. What would it

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take for your quest to be done? Finally verify what I saw was not

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a bear? Okay, I'm not
going to say like a guy's joke,

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Aron, I have to sit down
with me and have a beer. No,

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to be able to say, yes, it wasn't a bear, it

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was definitely a bipedal creature. Will
it take? What kind of evidence would

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that take? If I can find
pieces where I can get DNA foot prints,

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we take the DNA take your ground, which I have all the I

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have all the equipment to do it. It is just finding the stuff to

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do it. I'm going to try
to get finger prints this year and I'll

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use it. I'm gonna use a
large beer can, open a beer set

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out at night if it's on the
ground. I have the dusting powder for

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fingerprints. Okay, it's finally to
prove, just not to myself, to

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others, that hey, these do
exist. This is another thing our government's

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covering up. There's so many theories
about bigfoot. I have my own,

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and I'm sure it's going to conflict
with others. But over the years you

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develop a theory. What is it? I study the human evolution and you're

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surprised the primates did not evolve like
humans, but yet they did evolve.

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Yes, they put an evolutionary take
off of the primates, a larger Giantthicus,

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gorillas or regatans chimpanzees. Gotcha.
If they're getting DNA and stuff that

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comes back, it's unknown primate that
there's something there. Right. Another thing

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is to find a lab that won't
shoot their mouth off to the government.

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It's like, who can you trust
that your evidence is going to magically end

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up missing and never get returned to
you? Like so often is the case,

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right, I did. I send
in some DNA samples, some EDA.

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I never heard a word really and
that was two years ago. Wow,

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So what was the results? Either
means you found something or there's a

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lot of people in the labs that
are not so organized. What if you

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had to put a pen down on
a map of Montana for the squatchiest area,

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what would you think? I take
where I'm going again this year.

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I keep it because something always happens
there. And that's the key is now

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it's being there at the right time, having enough people out there out in

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the field. We're actually going to
be putting out this satellite camp, a

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satellite cam. Yeah, really tell
me about that. Yeah, the one

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a group from Washington. I'll be
taking them into an area is about a

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mile maybe or maybe only half a
mile from an alpine lake. Come across

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the tree structures in that I'm going
to jeep in and can't shaping bags,

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cooking gear, everything, and they're
going to spend a few nights in there.

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Now they will be in contact with
them base camp through the CBS.

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Well it's the mortar woman. The
JEP has CBS and they will have affordable

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those in the field have two way
radios ones in the base camp, and

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the guys have it. I can
hear what's going on if they're talking between

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each other. So I'm curious.
Is Bigfoot moving from the lakes through that

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draw up into the bar marshall over
the top into the ball marshall. It's

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just one range on one side and
the mission mountains on the other side.

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It's a big area. How many
hours do you think you've put in over

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the years for Bigfoot research? If
you had the rounded up twelve hundred dollars.

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Wow, that's awesome, that is
amazing. I'm limited because of my

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health, my heart. Oh sure, I can't get out there like I

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used to when I was a kid. If I didn't have a bad heart,

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i'd be the one out there in
the satellite camp by myself. But

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now I have others that do it, and it's hard to get people to

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come. They don't realize it's important. I have the people there that follow

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the rules. We do have rules
for field research, and we're real strict.

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You follow these rules, otherwise you're
removed because you get hurt out there.

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The closest hospital was forty five miles
away. Oh my goodness, that's

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the game over, dude, And
there's no place to bring a helicopter in

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there. Oh really, you can't
even medvack anyone at least really, you're

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done. Yeah, we have a
sing in the ball marsh with the hunters.

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If your buddy dies lame over a
log, it's easier to put him

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on a horse, a back horse. And if he's splat, oh my

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goodness, Wow, that'll make a
person pay attention. Yeah, we request

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that nobody goes armed but myself and
the head of the teams. I send

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out so somebody doesn't get gun happy. And I don't like game, but

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really carrying a weapon at night I
under stamp up during the day. I

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think bigput can sense it. I
agree with you. From what I've heard

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talking to people, I would agree
with you on that for sure. It's

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weird. You always hear stories about
how they can sense certain things or can

404
00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:19.200
they sense ir on like game cams, stuff like that. Just really interesting

405
00:31:19.240 --> 00:31:25.359
stuff. Really not sure what this
creature can and can do. It's pretty

406
00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:29.319
intense, for sure. Yeah.
See, we change our flashlights. We

407
00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:34.680
don't use white okay, we use
a high density black light. Oh interesting,

408
00:31:36.759 --> 00:31:38.880
Oh, Mike, shulm normally dear
and that will have an eye shot

409
00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:44.240
under these there's no eye shine.
Okay, you can see them. There

410
00:31:44.279 --> 00:31:49.000
is no eye SHOWE gotcha. So
does Bigfoot see that color spectrum? We

411
00:31:49.039 --> 00:31:55.839
don't know. Well, over the
years, all those hours that you're out

412
00:31:55.839 --> 00:32:00.559
there, have you ever noticed anything
else weird or strangers that you're like?

413
00:32:01.480 --> 00:32:06.720
It was Bigfoot, But I'm really
not sure what's going on here? You

414
00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:10.359
mean trees driven upside down in the
ground. Okay, that's cool. Yeah,

415
00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:15.799
do you run into that? Yes? Really? If you don't find

416
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:17.599
those very often you're more up north, but you do have once while here,

417
00:32:19.079 --> 00:32:24.640
you'll find x's in a different configuration. Lines during waterholes, along game

418
00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:29.640
trails, of streams, all sorts
of weird things. I burn across fish

419
00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:35.240
traps there in places ain't no humans. And I see those in the spring,

420
00:32:35.319 --> 00:32:38.799
the rainbow trout and the silver salmon
spot in the fall, the COCONet

421
00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:44.319
salmon in that spot, the brown
trouts, the brookies, so those streams

422
00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:47.359
have cut trout and the fish which
is a food source that there. It's

423
00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:52.039
like, and I think Bigfoot does
too. These fish traps are primitive and

424
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:59.599
that and but there they work expedition. Bigfoot, they come across it in

425
00:32:59.839 --> 00:33:04.759
or you know what it was.
So I was telling the wife, I've

426
00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:08.519
already been talking about this. We
don't what does bigfoot eat? Is it

427
00:33:08.519 --> 00:33:13.839
a carry an eater? We know
it will kill kind of if you look

428
00:33:13.880 --> 00:33:17.799
at the edible things. If you
look at like in Montana, baby fern,

429
00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:22.880
cattail, young cat, tai,
huckleberries, raspberries, I'm sure they

430
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:28.400
great farmers' fields. There's a lot
to eat out there. Then you look

431
00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:32.839
at taking deer, take an elk, even a moose, and they will

432
00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:38.799
kill a bear. So cubs,
it comes across the cub, that's food

433
00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:43.359
for the bigfoot. So you're saying
they will kill a bear? Yes,

434
00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:45.559
how do you know that? I'm
just I'm genuinely curious. How can you

435
00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:50.599
come across a bear with a broken
neck and there's no gunshot wound and there's

436
00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:54.319
nothing around something smell in the air, smells like something dead, rotten and

437
00:33:54.400 --> 00:34:00.920
moldy. Wow, is that something
you've come upon yourself? Really? You've

438
00:34:01.000 --> 00:34:07.200
you've found a bear that has a
snap neck, totally dead and now it's

439
00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:13.719
just like full size adult or what
size of the cub had a one hind

440
00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:17.239
quarter missing, they've been torn off
and ambrays down and me, I'll take

441
00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:22.000
a polygraph to any of this stuff
because I'm serious about what I see.

442
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:25.840
I've not talked about it until recently, of what I've experienced out there.

443
00:34:27.079 --> 00:34:32.039
Really, I'm just really taken it
back by that. That's incredible because I'm

444
00:34:32.079 --> 00:34:38.199
thinking another bear probably couldn't. I'm
trying to think of creatures that could break

445
00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:43.960
or you said, break the neck
of a bit. That's an intense ken

446
00:34:44.480 --> 00:34:47.360
I know, yeah, I know
how thick their neckt Sorry, yeah,

447
00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:51.719
that make me that I would be
thinking for a while on that. Man,

448
00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:54.960
I really can't think of anything other
than bigfoot that could do something like

449
00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:59.599
that. Dude, poor bear Willy
will kill a cup. That's why the

450
00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:05.000
cells so protective of the cups.
A soul can get separated from the cuffs,

451
00:35:05.119 --> 00:35:10.000
get separated, what bigfoot grabs it. You're talking to an animal except

452
00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:15.800
eight nine pounds or more. Yeah, an animal eight eight and a half

453
00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:21.320
foot tall, extremely muscular. Can
you imagine. I'm not sure if anyone

454
00:35:21.480 --> 00:35:24.239
has a story of this, but
seeing the fight between a grizzly and a

455
00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:29.760
bigfoot, my goodness, that wouldn't
that be something to go down in the

456
00:35:29.800 --> 00:35:32.559
ages. You know. The other
thing we I've noticed on them out If

457
00:35:32.559 --> 00:35:37.559
there's no bears, generally, that's
where I start hearing the weird vocalizations and

458
00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:43.519
stuff. The bears get the hell
out of there. Sure, it's like

459
00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:47.719
they're finding out purposes, are killing
Great White Charts. They show up the

460
00:35:47.719 --> 00:35:51.280
Great White Charts. Leap, it's
all doctor, Yeah, right now,

461
00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:57.000
the Great White Charts an apex predator. The bears a black bear, it's

462
00:35:57.039 --> 00:36:00.280
not as powerful as a grizzly,
But if they talk get a small bear?

463
00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:04.719
What chance do they have? What
chance do we have? Absolutely,

464
00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:07.880
you know you're on the food chain
as far as I'm concerned. I'm sure

465
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:15.960
you've heard different recordings of Bigfoot vocalizations, and you've mentioned already that you've heard

466
00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:22.280
almost mimicry different animals. Have you
heard anything that you know, a howl

467
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:28.239
or anything whereas Okay, that's not
like a coyote sound, that's something totally

468
00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:32.239
different. Yeah, yeah, a
whooping? Oh you have heard whoops out

469
00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:37.239
there? Okay? Really, they're
generally followed by a couple of tree knocks,

470
00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:42.800
and you can distinguish a tree knock
from bigfoot from a tree, a

471
00:36:42.880 --> 00:36:47.320
windblow in a tree. There's a
distinct sound. Okay, it's real loud

472
00:36:47.320 --> 00:36:51.239
and clear. Do you hear it? Leave the area, like I said,

473
00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:53.920
in the structure that've come across,
there's some you see them turn around

474
00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:55.960
and get the hell out of there. Don't do not go any further.

475
00:36:57.199 --> 00:37:00.360
They're a warning, stay out of
that area. Warning. Yeah, it's

476
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:06.360
a warning. I want to say. It was my buddy tateheronymous that almost

477
00:37:06.559 --> 00:37:10.079
He labels it like a power knock. I've heard that thrown around. But

478
00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:16.760
it's so sharp, it's so loud
that you just like it could be nothing

479
00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:20.440
else. Yeah, you hear it. They could be two three miles away.

480
00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:24.559
There's no mistaken when they do it. We cannot create that lot of

481
00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:31.440
tree knocker salves. Ours are short
and sharp, but short. There's you

482
00:37:31.559 --> 00:37:37.519
hear it through thick woods everything.
You'll hear that knock. When they scream,

483
00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:44.320
sometimes it sounds like a woman.
Very interesting because yeah, so you've

484
00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:47.039
heard that yourself where it's like a
like a woman's scream. Oh no,

485
00:37:47.239 --> 00:37:52.559
make you stand up and look around. Do you have any of that recorded?

486
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:57.800
Yes you do. I'll get those
recordings out. I got to go

487
00:37:57.840 --> 00:38:00.960
through all my flash stripes and find
them and then I'll get him sent to

488
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:04.880
you. No pressure, but I
would love to hear it. That's awesome.

489
00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:08.320
Have you ever played like a baby? Cry? Sound I'm trying that.

490
00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:12.360
Oh you're going to try to share. You've got to tell me how

491
00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:15.440
it goes. I will Usually it
brings out the crazy. Do you got

492
00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:21.239
some stuff in that group? Yeah, that's why. And we're private for

493
00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:25.480
a reason, right, we me
and my moderators, we have one primary

494
00:38:25.719 --> 00:38:30.360
thing. It will be respectful.
Yes, you troll somebody, especially me,

495
00:38:31.199 --> 00:38:35.159
you ain't got a chat, You're
gone your history. I will not

496
00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:39.000
tolerate it. And we built a
group of trust. Yeah, it's important

497
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:45.840
to talk about experiences. Look at
the guy that contracted mortar patrol what he

498
00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:50.519
said. It takes a lot for
these people to talk about these experiences.

499
00:38:50.840 --> 00:38:54.800
Don't try absolutely, Just trust me. I'll verify everything anybody's saying. It's

500
00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:58.639
not that hard to do. It's
just go to the area. You'll learn

501
00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:02.320
how to do research on LAWE for
information like I posted that. You notice

502
00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:07.199
I don't post anything on there that
I have not double checked. Have more

503
00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:13.599
than one article. That's awesome because
I'm online from two three o'clock in the

504
00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:20.679
morning. I'm sitting here doing research. I have two really left field things

505
00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:25.119
I want to ask you about that. If you've ever heard anything like about

506
00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:30.440
this kind of thing in Montana,
it's really left field. Have you ever

507
00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:36.000
experienced any like ORB stuff up there? I have an idaho, Oh you

508
00:39:36.079 --> 00:39:39.239
have? Oh that night and you
had that log thrown between us? Yeah,

509
00:39:39.480 --> 00:39:43.440
difar to that. We were standing. I looked up for about five

510
00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:46.079
miles away, I'd say, quite
a ways up in the sky. I

511
00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:50.400
read ORB was dancing all over the
sky. It wasn't a helicopter, it

512
00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:58.079
wasn't an airplane, and doing this
ran stuff. We disappeared. We watched

513
00:39:58.239 --> 00:40:00.519
for forty five minutes. I tried
to catch it on the camera, and

514
00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:05.519
that it was too far away.
Oh wow, No, okay, that's

515
00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:08.760
cool. Where I got the walls
on trail cam. I haven't figured how

516
00:40:08.840 --> 00:40:13.599
to piece the video together, but
I have. It looks like an ORB

517
00:40:13.719 --> 00:40:21.239
coming up this straw and it slowly
floats across the trail cam. It comes

518
00:40:21.280 --> 00:40:27.320
back and then comes back and that's
gone. Okay. There are seven videos

519
00:40:27.360 --> 00:40:34.079
of it. Yeah, that's awesome. The night after we caught that juvenile.

520
00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:38.679
I woke up. Something was chattering
outside of the window or the motorhome

521
00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:44.000
on my ceiling. I looked up
and there was a white war dancing on

522
00:40:44.039 --> 00:40:46.800
the ceiling and it just went I
was inside the motorhome, back and forth.

523
00:40:47.159 --> 00:40:52.800
Yeah, I'm nuturally to look at
that. Oh no, And I

524
00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:55.840
don't know how I deal with that, You lay, What the hell I

525
00:40:55.920 --> 00:41:01.480
got up? Yeah? I got
up and fully charged dual Better. It's

526
00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:06.840
in a mortar rome, gone completely
dead. They were completely dead twenty minutes

527
00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:12.199
and they come back online full charge. No way, I'm serious. Oh

528
00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:16.119
that's crazy, ken, Wow,
I know how you explain that? Yeah,

529
00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:21.880
you can't. You can't. I
don't know. That's the thing.

530
00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:24.960
So the way I think about it
is there's no right or wrong answers yet

531
00:41:25.239 --> 00:41:30.480
for the creature because we don't have
one captured. So I think it's I

532
00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:32.440
think it is like an animal and
ape of creature. But it's think of

533
00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:37.280
the animals around the world and all
the weird stuff they can do. Who's

534
00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:42.360
to say that Bigfoot has like these
crazy stuff that we have never even thought

535
00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:47.320
an animal can do. Like all
bets are off travel close. I've never

536
00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:52.199
experienced it. But I'm not going
to discount it because I've never experienced I

537
00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:57.320
only base everything I talk about based
on my experience, either in the field

538
00:41:57.519 --> 00:42:00.960
or online researching. And people don't
understand that I have all the time in

539
00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:07.039
the world to do this. Absolutely, you know, I'm seventy. I

540
00:42:07.079 --> 00:42:12.320
got all the time, all right. Number two left field. There's a

541
00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:22.559
creature in cryptozoology where it's labeled as
like a pale crawler humanoid weird thing.

542
00:42:22.639 --> 00:42:24.760
I don't know if that doesn't ring
any bells, don't worry about it,

543
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:30.920
but just the chance. Okay,
I've never experienced it personally. I'm not

544
00:42:31.039 --> 00:42:36.800
saying they're not out there. Yeah, okay, good example. I'd like

545
00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:42.320
to meet the farmer and deer lodge. He's got one of those on a

546
00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:47.800
trail camp. Who there's a rancher
the deer lodge. His cattle has come

547
00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:51.679
up missing, so he put out
a bunch of trail camps. He has

548
00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:54.559
something like that on one of the
trail camps. The farmer, this deer

549
00:42:54.599 --> 00:43:00.519
lodge, Montana. Can you get
me in touch with him? I'll try

550
00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:02.599
too, Young, Okay, I
want to go where it was at.

551
00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:07.960
You got to dude. Oh my
goodness. The thing about research field research,

552
00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:15.880
you have more questions than answers,
absolutely, and the most exciting to

553
00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:21.280
do it. The more questions you're
going to have. I know the answers,

554
00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:25.480
but there's always that one moment when
something may happen that you're not a

555
00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:29.800
believer. It can make you a
believer. When I was asked for i'd

556
00:43:29.800 --> 00:43:32.559
never jump out of an airplane.
I finally did it. You did it?

557
00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:37.239
Yeah, that when I was living
in Hawaii. I spent time in

558
00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:39.639
Hawaii. It was for there fourteen
years. I'm not in Hawaii. You

559
00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:45.440
hear about the menonies. Tell me
what a small footprint in the Namptite Swamp,

560
00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:49.480
which is one of the highest plateau
swamps in the world. It's actually

561
00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:52.800
the base of the weddest place in
the world at four hundred and eighty five

562
00:43:52.840 --> 00:43:57.320
inches of raid a year. Wow, what is that little footprint doing up

563
00:43:57.320 --> 00:44:00.400
there? The many Hoonies are the
ones that built fish pond. They don't

564
00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:04.679
they call it the menu Whodi dish. When the Wines got there, Kawai

565
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:07.840
was the first islands the Wine all
the Natians landed on. There was already

566
00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:13.320
a ditch built and they don't know
who built it. Wow, it's perfectly

567
00:44:13.480 --> 00:44:16.519
hagled for water flow and everything.
And it was right through rocks. Oh,

568
00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:21.559
it's got a tunnel and everything.
Nobody knows who build It's like our

569
00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:25.239
medicine wheel in Wyoming. Nobody knows
who built it. It was there when

570
00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:30.119
the Native Americans come into that area. What's the medicine wheel. If you're

571
00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:32.519
in the air like the Nestec lines, you see it on the ground.

572
00:44:32.519 --> 00:44:36.480
But if you're in the area,
it's a great big wheel which spoke.

573
00:44:36.599 --> 00:44:39.920
Okay, the medicine wheel. It's
a sacred place for the Native Americans.

574
00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:45.119
It was there when they got there. That's wild, dude. You hear

575
00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:50.039
the people before, Constant the people
before. Are there mounds in Montana,

576
00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:53.360
eastern Montana and around the Maddan village
Just there's a few, but not what's

577
00:44:53.400 --> 00:44:58.639
on the east coast in the intenna
like Ohio. Yeah, yeah, the

578
00:44:58.719 --> 00:45:04.320
mounts there most of here. I'm
sure it's very burial. Okay. And

579
00:45:04.360 --> 00:45:08.480
then you don't I respect the natives
here, sure, And I don't believe

580
00:45:08.519 --> 00:45:14.000
in disturbing them, Absolutely not.
If I can get one to talk to

581
00:45:14.039 --> 00:45:16.079
me, and once you really get
to know it, they will open up.

582
00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:21.639
I'm hoping this year to sit down
with the chief of the Black put

583
00:45:21.719 --> 00:45:24.880
up here on out of our lee. Oh well, and sit down with

584
00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:29.119
him in the medicine and we talk
to him. They know who I am,

585
00:45:29.320 --> 00:45:34.159
but it's taking years to build if
I'm not close. That's the thing

586
00:45:34.280 --> 00:45:39.880
people don't understand, I think,
is how long it takes to create relationships

587
00:45:40.119 --> 00:45:46.320
like that. It will literally take
years. And today's culture doesn't get that.

588
00:45:46.440 --> 00:45:50.400
In a world where you can just
click I want to be your friend,

589
00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:53.880
it's not like that. You have
to spend years one and then the

590
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:58.280
other one too. If you look
at it. During the pandemic, the

591
00:45:58.320 --> 00:46:01.000
reservation, the Big one, the
Black one, each of the divit it

592
00:46:01.039 --> 00:46:04.719
was shut down. It was closed. You couldn't go in there. Oh

593
00:46:04.719 --> 00:46:08.519
wow, up here because you have
to drive through to get the plaideat lake

594
00:46:08.599 --> 00:46:16.840
now Plantet Lake guinate reports of footprints, something stiky walking on the eat side

595
00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:23.400
of Platt Lake. Really so they're
here. We don't hear a lot.

596
00:46:23.679 --> 00:46:29.320
There's more bigfoot sighting than Montella,
most people realize. Because we don't talk

597
00:46:29.360 --> 00:46:32.320
about it. That's our problem.
We're not talking about it. Gotcha,

598
00:46:32.559 --> 00:46:37.760
Yeah, I got it. I
got it. Thank goodness for the Montana

599
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:44.840
Bigfoot International Research Group. You guys
are trying to get all the evidence together.

600
00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:49.239
That's awesome, and it takes time. I gotta have it before I

601
00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:52.280
die. Come on, now,
you'll get it. Don't worry about it.

602
00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:55.320
Yeah, I'm actually going to be
gold prospecting to see if that oh

603
00:46:55.360 --> 00:46:59.800
you always, oh you're gonna you're
going to prospect for gold. Hopefully you'll

604
00:46:59.800 --> 00:47:01.960
get some Bigfoot evidence at the same
time. Okay, yeah, well,

605
00:47:02.039 --> 00:47:07.760
yeah, be careful. You got
those stories of up in Canada where the

606
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prospectors and the just have your eyes
behind you. Don't let anyone in a

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good sense of smell. There you
go, there you go. I really

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appreciate having they come on board.
Like I said, this is my first

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time I've actually talked to somebody about
experiences and yeah everything. Yeah. Can

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I appreciate you coming on and chatting
tonight. This has been a really fun

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chat. There's more going on in
Montana than I realized. Do you mind

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taking a few minutes If you have
any closing thoughts, definitely say those,

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but remind people how they can keep
up to date with the Montana Bigfoot International

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Research Group and how they can contact
you and all that kod stuff. They

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can contact me through my email dog
Man one two nine at MSN dot com.

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It's on the domain the ww the
Montana Bigfoot Research Group dot com.

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My Facebook group is a Montana international
bik but research group Big but Yeah International

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Research. But it's on Facebook.
You can find it on there. We

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are private. If somebody wants to
join, please answer the questions because the

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automatically declined and we got to set
up that way. We're not a large

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group, but we're building. We're
slowly building, and we have people that

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have experiences. They're talking about it. You've finally got to talk about it,

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and we even if you're in Montana, are you coming through and want

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to spend some time on a field
research, get hold of me. We'd

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welcome. We'll take you out there
and be part of it. You might

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be there when we finally find that
one thing we're looking forward to prove what

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we're looking for. I think how
meet that would be? That would be

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very cool. Ken. It has
been a delight chatting with you and I'll

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definitely be probably touching base with you
again in the future, and yeah,

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it would be a good time.
But thanks so much for coming on Ken.

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Thank you for having me and your
bike come across something and they exciting.

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I'll let you know immediately. Fantastic
you'll be on the group site.

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