June 24, 2026

MYSTERIOUS FOREST VOICES STALK WITNESS IN BRADFORD, PENNSYLVANIA

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Season 1

Bud grew up in the forests surrounding Bradford, Pennsylvania, where one summer afternoon an earth-shaking scream echoed through a valley and left a lasting impression. Years later, while repeatedly crossing a mountain to visit his girlfriend, he began hearing strange vocalizations that sounded like conversations hidden deep in the woods.


As an adult living near Elijah Clark State Park in Georgia, Bud discovered a series of massive footprints near a secluded cove. The tracks were unlike anything he had encountered before, and the reaction from a wildlife officer only deepened the mystery.


In this episode, Bud shares decades of experiences spanning Pennsylvania and Georgia, including unexplained screams, possible Sasquatch vocalizations, pine cone throwing incidents, large footprints, nighttime activity around his property, and unusual tree structures found in remote areas.


Locations discussed include Bradford, Pennsylvania, the Allegheny National Forest region, Kinzua Viaduct, Elijah Clark State Park, Clark Hill Lake, Lincolnton, Georgia, and North Georgia.


If you've ever wondered how a lifetime of seemingly unrelated events can point toward something hidden in the forests, this conversation is one you'll want to hear from beginning to end.

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You're listening to Big for Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to

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bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've

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seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers

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to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us. Please keep Jeremiah in your prayers

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as he continues his fight against cancer. For more updates

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about his medical journey, please go to the carring Bridge

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link in the show notes. Thank you, all right, Big

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for Society, Welcome back to another episode. We've got the

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privilege of talking to Bud today. Bud is a well

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you know, we were talking about that right before the show,

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and Bud is a even though he has never had

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a sighting, he is a big football leaver from down

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there in North Georgia. Because he's had some really interesting

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things happen, and we're going to get into that later on.

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But welcome to the show, Bud. How are you doing today, sir?

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Thank you, sir. It's a pleasure and an honor to

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be on your show. You're obviously one of the best,

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and your work proves it well.

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I appreciate the kind words. And if you want to

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see a great background. Of course, this is for everyone

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over on maybe Apple Podcasts or Spotify. There is a

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version of this over on YouTube and you can Bud's

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got a Sasquatch sign and maybe a little little stuff

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from it. Looks like the Steelers. There is that the

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yeah oh in the West Virginia big for shirt. So

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make sure you head over to YouTube and follow us

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over there. So throw us a subscribe. We just passed

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ninety k and we're coming up coming out quick on

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one hundred k. So you know, Bud, is there anything

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else that the listeners would want to know about you

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before we get going?

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I don't think so. Just born and raised in northwest Pennsylvania,

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you know, four hours north of Pittsburgh, two hours east

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the Erie Alleghanty National Forest that was our playground. And

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after college I moved down to Georgia. I did live

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over in South Carolina across the River. I lived near

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Augusta and then Lincoln and Georgia, then moved out to

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where I'm at now in North Georgia, probably like about

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ten years ago. Okay, so, but very interested in these

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big foot because of things that I experienced. And the

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thing about it which I'm going to, you know, go

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into is I didn't really think about it when I

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was actually experiencing that because I didn't really know what

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I was experiencing until later then I figured out, Okay, wow,

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that's kind of spooky.

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So oh absolutely, yeah, that is intriguing to me. But

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so you know, let's get right into it. Feel free

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to take take us back to when maybe your first

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experience that you realized later in life that there was

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there was something happening at that point of your life.

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And I know we've got a few pictures along the way,

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so even even a better reason for individuals to check

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out the YouTube version this time.

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Okay, So mine mine basically started when I was about

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fourteen fifteen years old, you know, living and growing up

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in Bradford, and I was with I believe one of

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my brothers and a friend. My father was with us,

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but he was in the house at one of his

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friend's house, and we just happened to drive out there

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with him, and it was then kind of like the

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proximity of one of the pictures I have, which is

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called the Dorn Estate. It's a very nice place that

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we have on the outkiritts of Barrappera. These people obviously

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have a lot of money, and there's a lot of

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wildlife and things out there. It wasn't actually within their area,

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but wasn't too far from it as the crop lies,

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and we were basically just standing outside on the road

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waiting for my father to get done, you know, talking

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to whoever he was talking to, or you know, whatever

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business he was doing. And it was probably i'd say

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twelve thirty one o'clock in the afternoon, a nice summer day,

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you know, up in Pennsylvania, and all of a sudden

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I heard one of their yells or screams or you

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know whatever they're actually calling it. And it was one

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of those guttural you know, I mean, it's just I

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never I mean, I've been out well my whole life

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up in Pennsylvania, and i know pretty much every sound

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there is. You know, it wasn't a train, you know,

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it wasn't a moose, it wasn't an elk, it wasn't

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you know, something like that. And it literally felt like

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the ground was shaking, and I wish I could have

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recorded obviously I couldn't, but I didn't even think I

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had a phone back then. But it just echoed down

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this valley, and you know, we sat there, stood there,

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I should say, for probably like fifteen minutes, just looking

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at each other like what was that? You know, of course,

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at that age you're not really thinking about really looking

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into it anymore than just trying to think, hey, what

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could have made that noise? But I knew at that

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moment that whatever made it, it was nothing I'd ever

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heard before, and whatever made that had to have the

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lung capacity of just something that was enormous. I mean,

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it was just I can't even explain it, and it

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was just that awesome really, So of course, at that age,

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fifteen minutes later, you know, our conclusion was, hey, that

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was pretty cool. You know, go on with life, right,

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So you know, I played nine different sports growing up,

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so I was in pretty good shape. You know. That's

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kind of like a marine, you know. So, and behind

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my house, if you look at the picture, that we're

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looking at right now. If you go to the right

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hand side of it and go straight up, you can

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see that mountain right there. I had a girlfriend that

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lived on the other side of that mountain later, a

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couple of years later, and I didn't have a car,

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I couldn't go visit her. So, you know, I was

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in pretty good shape, so I figured, well, why don't

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I just walk right over the mountain. I can't walk,

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and it would take me forever and go to the mountain.

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I figured, well, maybe an hour and a half. Yeah,

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right there. And I lived on a street called Summer Street,

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and right toward the bottom of Summer Street there's a curve.

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So if anybody who knows this area, which probably some

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of the people see that, will know if you go

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straight up in the woods. We had oil leases and

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things up there, so we had little side roads and things.

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But uh, you know, when the when the summer was in,

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I mean it was pretty thick, really thick, and on

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the top of that hill. I would go up to

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the top, find a way to the top, and then

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have to kind of traverse to the right and then

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figure out a way where I needed to go down

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the other side.

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You know.

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Of course, after a while I did figure it out.

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But there were some guidelines up on the top of

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the hill, like I believe there was an old homestead

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up there, because you could see like a little pasture

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and a fence and things like that, and I kind

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of use that, you know, as as a guy. Well

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what happened was and I probably I don't know how

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many times I went up over that mountain because you know,

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when you you know, you got to grow up and

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you want to see him right. So but there were

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time when I would hear people talking, right, and it

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wasn't like normal people talking. And people I've spoken to

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have actually told me he said, you know, you're probably

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one of the few people in the world that have

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heard these things talk so many times. And you know,

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back then I was fearless. I mean, I was like

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a marine. So I'd be and it was always within

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the same I would say half a mile area, always

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in that area. Uh, never in the wintertime, you know,

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always in the summer. And I would hear like all

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you know, pop pop, you know, and all that, and

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I would be like, what is that. You know, I've

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been chased by bears. I sat on rattlesnakes. I you know,

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it's like, you know, I was fearless back then, and

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I looked. I tried to figure out who is that,

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Who's making that noise? What is that? And I would

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look you know, of course I never I never saw anything.

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I would hear like heavy footsteps and things and think, okay,

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that was a big deer, you know. But because my

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focus was I want to just go see my girlfriend.

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So I was thinking about it, but not thinking about

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it right after it happened. About nine or ten times,

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I was still really thinking about it. But I you know,

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who am I going to tell? Right, Hey, I heard

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these noises, this is what they sound like?

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What was that? Right?

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And of course I had no proof of of seeing anything.

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So eventually, obviously I graduated, I moved south, and this

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is when I started to put everything together. I lived

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on a street called Bermunta Avenue and it was in Lincolnton, Georgia,

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and it was by the lake. Well it was it

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was clark Hill Lake. They turned it into Thurman Lake

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and Damon Lake. And I was about a mile from

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a state park called Elijah Clark State Park. And I

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had a lake house out there wasn't a fancy lake house.

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In fact, I didn't even have central heat and air.

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But you know, I got up so early in the

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morning and left so late. It got home so late

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at night that I really needed. I just had a

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fan or a ceiling fan, a couple of you know,

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window units. And this is where it started. I was

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at the state park and we used to have a

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banjo pull out there every couple of years, or every

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every year really until they stopped it. And there are

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times when I would get a cabin at the lake

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or at the state park because you know, the South

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gets hot, right, and I was out of town a lot,

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so even on the weekends, I would be in a

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hotel somewhere, you know, paid by my company or whatever.

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But there were times I would rent a cabin because

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I like to go fishing, and obviously we had a

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lot of that. And if you click on the next screen,

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see uh, I can show you Okay, oh this here

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by the way, I'm sorry, I meant to mention this.

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This is the area that I would walk up over

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the mountain and then go back to the other side

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and down there to the top screen is where I

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would actually go to so that was the area where

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I saw or heard I should say, you know all

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these encounters. Yeah, that's so. This next screen is, let's

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see go to the next one below that. This is

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the area of where I was living. You see where

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it says at eleven o five Bermuna Avenue. It was

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right in that area right there, and you can see

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it's not that far are from the state park, probably

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about a mile. So the next screen, if you pull

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that up, the cabins at a Isa Clark. Some of

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them are in like little coves. So I was in

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the cabin in this cove to the left where that

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circle is, and I was fishing. I don't do good

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at fishing, no patients and don't catch a lot. But

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there was a log on the other side of the cove.

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I'm thinking, okay, if I can get over to that log,

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there's got to be a fish over there. For crying

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out loud, you know, it literally took me thirty minutes

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to go probably fifty yards because the thicket was it

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was so thick around that, you know, around that cove.

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When I got over there, you can see how the

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road where the tip of the road is, where that

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tip is where that cove is there was a little

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clearing that kind of went up towards the direction of

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the road. Back then, some of the buildings that you

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see out by the road were not there yet. So

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I think this is more of a recent picture from

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the time, you know, when this happened. So there was

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like a little clearing, and you know, I guess I

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could compare it to see some people live out in

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the country and they would have a path they would

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use their mower to cut to go down to a

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creek or pond or you know, something like that. But

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this it wasn't very big. It just and it wasn't

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the manicure you know thing. And I just happened to

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look down and I see these huge footprints. They were probably,

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if I had to say, if you look down out

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of maybe four or five feet apart, and I was like, god, lye,

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what you know, what could have made that? Right? First

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of all, there was the other two little imprints in

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between the two, so of course I took a picture

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of it. Right, they were probably sixteen seventeen foot long.

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You could see, you know what they say, the dermal ridges,

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and you could see clearly, you know, the footprints and

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I just kept thinking, okay, what could have made that?

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My first thought was, okay, I know people have special shoes.

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They were on boats, you know, they could The only

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way they could have made it from a boat would

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step off backwards. You can't even get a boat in there.

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There's no way they could have could have even done that.

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There definitely weren't fake footprints, right. So I took a

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picture of them, and probably about a month or two later,

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I was at the state park for this banjo pull

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and I was showing them to a gentleman I had

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just met that No them wasn't a friend or anything,

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just a stranger. You know, you get to talking to people,

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and one of the the n R Wildlife officers came

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by and I said, hey, have you ever seen anything

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like this? And he grabbed the picture. He looked at it,

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he looked at me. He said, where'd you get these?

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Do you have any more? He took them out of

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my hand and just walked away, no way, and said nothing.

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Oh man.

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It was that moment that I thought, whoa okay? And

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I was talking to the other gentleman and I said,

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well that was kind of odd, now, wasn't it. Right,

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That's when I started looking into and I found a

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couple of yells, one from Ohio and one from Washington State,

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and I was like, holy crap, that's exactly what I heard,

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but maybe even a little bit more gutter all than that.

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You know. I started doing some research, you know, and

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kind of putting everything together, and then I started remembering

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things that had happened before, you know, when I was

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in Bradford. I remember one time I lived at another house.

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It was on High Street. We had a brick company

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right down the street, and we would play up on

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the hill a lot, and my brothers and I were

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up there one time just messing around. And I didn't

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know if they were hiding from me or what, but

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I couldn't find him, and I was looking for him,

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and I started getting pine cones thrown at me. So

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obviously I assume that's my brother right where are you at.

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The only thing was I would have found them if

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they were throwing pink. I mean, I played baseball softball.

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I can see a pine cone coming and know it

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had to come from that direction. It had to be,

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you know, right over in there. There's no way they

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could have hit from me throwing stuff at me, right, So,

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but I couldn't find them. So I looked for them

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for probably like forty five minutes, probably had like eight

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or nine pine cones thrown at me. So finally I

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was like, you know what, you guys, keep it up.

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I'm leaving. Right when I got home, probably like twenty

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minutes later, I said, did my brothers get home yet?

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You know my mother? And they're like, oh, they've been

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gone for like forty five minutes. They went with your

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dad somewhere. So I'm like, well, I know a bear

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can't throw you know, at that time, I didn't think

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much of it. I'm like, okay, whatever, you know. But

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looking back, you know, after I found these footprints and

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after I started looking into things, there was no person

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up there. A bear can't throw pine cones at people, right,

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But again I didn't see anything, couldn't find anything, didn't

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hear anything. So getting back to Georgia, I had purchased

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a a street light that you can put in your yard.

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You could rent it from like Georgia Power for like

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nine dollars a month because where I lived and out

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there was very dark. One night I was out there

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and the cicadas are so loud down there, it's like

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it'll give you a headache. And I was out there

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about ten thirty one night. Just I would go out

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there and just stand by my car and you know,

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just listen to the woods and stuff, and all of

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a sudden, it was just total silence, like everything stopped.

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And I'm like, okay, well that was kind of weird.

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What was that, right? I heard some well if you say,

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they weren't normal footsteps, you know. And at the time,

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I was like, big deer. You know. Always my excuse

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is always, well that's a really big deer. But that

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happened several times. Also I would sleep. I had an

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upstairs loft. I would sleep with my you know, the

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window open, and I would hear things trumping through the

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woods at two thirty in the morning, trees falling over.

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I can't explain what that was, but and I can't

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say that those were big butts of sasquatch, but they

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certainly were not normal you know, of course always in

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the summertime, you know, fall. But when that park ranger

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saw those pictures and did that, like I said, that

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kind of that kind of put two and two together

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that look, there's there's something going on here. And after

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doing all the investigation and looking them up and you know,

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things have happened, and then starting to talk to other people,

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I don't know what else that could tell me they

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don't exist. And the one thing that sticks with me

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that I just don't understand why a lot of researchers

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even talk about are the gauge impressions. I mean, they've

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had gauge impressions that out in the middle of nowhere,

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one hundred miles out in the middle of nowhere, that

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would show that whatever made those footprints, which clearly by

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the area they were in, you could clearly see there

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was no human intervention, right, But whatever made those had

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to be you know, seven to nine feet tall, weigh

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eight to twelve hundred pounds, and have over a five

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foot stride. Then when you look at the tens of

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thousands of eyewitnesses accounts, are you going to tell me

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that every single one of those all over the world

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are lying? Right? It's impossible, right, So for me, it's

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not like, you know, I've got to show you that

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they show me they don't exist. You know, I don't

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have to show you they exist, but show me they

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don't And I mean when I look at everything that

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happened to me, especially when I you know, hearing hearing

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them talk so many times, sometimes I think in my

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mind I kind of chuckle, you know, I can imagine

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what they were thinking when I was walking by, Like, oh,

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here's that stupid kid again, I'm going over the mountain.

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I think we should probab, we protect him, you know,

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because there was a time I was up there and

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I ended up. I got lost, and I was actually

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between a mother and a cub, you know.

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So I was like this mother and a cub there right.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, thinking this is good. But you know

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I was I was always had the ability to stay

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calm and just you know, not panic and okay, nice,

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spare whatever. But I'll tell you what, And I think

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I'm not the only one, and maybe a few will

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probably admit that when we get older and like I

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don't even go out in the woods anymore, you know,

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I don't even do it, and I've got plenty of

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places to do it. Of course, I'm not in very

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good shape, so that's another reason. But and I think

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that has part to do with what I'm going to say.

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I think when we get older and we start realizing that,

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you know, these things really do exist, and we look

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at all the people that just go missing for no reason.

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I'm not saying that it's Sasquatch is doing it. I

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think there's other things in the world that maybe governments

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have created or whatever, like dog man. You know. Uh,

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but when you think about it, it's not a pleasant thought.

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Just think. You know, you could just be out there

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trying to enjoy yourself and then you're not. We just

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had a guy what recently, I'd say, I don't know,

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Blood Mountain in Georgia.

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I've heard of that place.

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They even saw him walking down. Where did he go?

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I mean, that's not the first time that people have

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gone missing there. I honestly don't think that people realize,

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which is why I like to look at David Pilati's stuff.

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How many people actually go missing in our country out

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in the woods, even hunters, you know, just people that

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are honestly I mean, I think I'll see. So the

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bottom line is, I think they exist. I think there's

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good ones and bad ones, you know. I think the

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bad ones could be killing people. I wish I could

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find this. I saw a story out of Mississippi one

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time where they found a guy who was stuck behind

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the seat of his pickup truck and it was one

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of those old trucks where there ain't a lot of

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room behind the sea and he was bent over, but

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he was bent over backwards. I don't know anything that

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could do that to a person, you know. So I

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think there's other things out there, and I think the

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government knows about it, right, But I'm one percent at

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everything that I've experienced when I look back to things

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I've seen, and there's no doubt in my mind that

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these things exist, no.

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Doubt at all. Yeah, I agree with you one hundred percent.

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You know, when you start putting yourself out there and

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actually going out in the woods and you know, experiencing

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things like you're seeing tracks or you're hearing what sounds like,

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you know, talking like you've heard or like I've heard

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roars and screams and things out in Oregon. And you know,

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even though the two of us, like we haven't had

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a visual there is still something out there that is

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it's unexplained and the only logical explanation is that you know,

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bigfoot israel out there. It's it's absolutely wild. And you know,

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especially when you look at the circumstances of where Bradford,

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Pennsylvania is, It's like it's right outside the Allegheny We're.

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In the you know, the Allegheny National fourth Region, gotcha,

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we're in that area right there.

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So, you know, growing up and and then I don't know,

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maybe you looked back into this area after you've grown

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up into adulthood, did you start to track down any

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stories from that area. I know, I've heard so many

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things from that forest over the years, Bigfoot related things

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that happen to people. It is just it's really really intense.

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Yeah, we had a gentleman that started a group up

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in our hometown, and you know when I saw that,

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I mentioned what happened to me. And there was a

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lot of people I remember back then that commented on

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that about things that they have had, you know, happen

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in that area. And I know we've had many sightings

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up in that area. Pennsylvania has a lot of sightings.

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I mean, I also have relatives down in near Pittsburgh, well, Connersville, Scottdale,

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Mount Pleasant kind of near the ridge that they talk about,

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and Indiana, PA and places like that, and you know,

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there's just so much woods down there, well in the

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whole state. I mean, I just don't see how they

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cannot exist. I just, you know, it's hard for anybody

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to show me what I've experiences. There's just no way

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that they don't. But I did have some experiences up

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in back up in Bradford at our we have a

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bridge called the Kenzie Viaduct and it was the Eighth

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Wonder of the World before a tornado hit it and

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took half of it down. But I was out there

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visiting and I saw so many stick structures. It was unreal.

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And I never noticed those before, you know, growing up,

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they were probably all there. But the way they were

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made is like what human could make that without having

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a machine or something, which clearly there's no evidence of

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that being used. How can they I mean, how do

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you explain that? It's it's amazing, it's amazing.

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So when you when you because I know in different

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parts of the country there's different types of stick structures

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that I've seen, how would you explain the type of

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things that you were seeing around this area of Pennsylvania.

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The ones I saw, I think we're more directional versus

456
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for them to actually be, you know, staying in there

457
00:27:37.559 --> 00:27:41.400
or maybe having their young staying there. I think they

458
00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:48.480
were more of the exes in the the tree balancing

459
00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:51.799
like it was in the circus, you know, like somebody

460
00:27:51.839 --> 00:27:55.039
on a high wire, but yet it was in there good,

461
00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:57.079
you know, how how they got it there? I have

462
00:27:57.079 --> 00:28:01.160
no idea. Things like that were more are the ones

463
00:28:01.519 --> 00:28:04.920
you know that I saw when I started thinking about

464
00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:07.119
it and looking actually versus just kind of walking by,

465
00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:10.480
I'm not thinking anything about it, but yeah, I saw several.

466
00:28:10.519 --> 00:28:12.680
I actually we have a lot of those in Georgia too,

467
00:28:13.720 --> 00:28:16.720
in North Georgia. In fact, we stayed at a place

468
00:28:17.920 --> 00:28:22.839
last year in North Georgia and it's kind of like

469
00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:25.599
a you know, people get married there, but yet they

470
00:28:25.640 --> 00:28:27.319
have cottages and stuff and they're all out in the

471
00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:31.400
woods and I don't even know, I'm assuming that people

472
00:28:31.440 --> 00:28:34.000
know about it. But there's one place where there's this

473
00:28:34.839 --> 00:28:40.240
huge ax. I mean, it's got to be seventy feet tall,

474
00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:47.039
and I'm like, you know who made that? Like how

475
00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:50.079
did they even do that? Or you know, take a

476
00:28:50.119 --> 00:28:52.960
tree and shove it five feet into the ground upside

477
00:28:53.000 --> 00:28:55.440
down right. I did see one of those one time,

478
00:28:55.480 --> 00:29:00.119
thinking that was strong person, but a person couldn't done that.

479
00:29:00.279 --> 00:29:04.160
You know, it's North Georgia has some weird stuff when

480
00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:07.240
you look into it, and I mean, probably one of

481
00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:12.319
the weirdest stories I've heard on the show is from

482
00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:15.240
North Georgia, and I know there's an exhibit about it

483
00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:21.319
over in the Expedition Bigfoot Museum. It's uh dalla NAGAEI

484
00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:27.200
Dealanaga Georgia, thank you. And you have the military helicopter

485
00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:33.160
that crashed, and the story goes is that the guys

486
00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:35.640
were in the helicopters crashed and all of a sudden,

487
00:29:35.680 --> 00:29:40.519
these like big hairy figures came out of nowhere and

488
00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:45.039
trying to get in the helicopter to them, and I

489
00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:48.200
think they were they were able to get them out

490
00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:50.960
of there because they started firing at them from their weapons.

491
00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:54.279
But he's just such such a wild account.

492
00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:56.599
It reminds me of I think it was on your

493
00:29:56.680 --> 00:30:01.039
channel several years ago of a I want to say,

494
00:30:01.079 --> 00:30:06.000
he might have been in Virginia and he shot one

495
00:30:06.319 --> 00:30:08.759
and I guess maybe the one he shot was a female,

496
00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:13.799
and that the male just grabbed it and scaled a

497
00:30:14.119 --> 00:30:18.400
wall that was like thirty feet high, like it was nothing.

498
00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:20.559
I don't know if that was on I want to

499
00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:26.720
say that was one of your stories a long time ago.

500
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:30.880
I can't remember now, but just what they can do

501
00:30:31.039 --> 00:30:31.839
is just amazing.

502
00:30:31.880 --> 00:30:37.559
It's it is some wild stuff. I mean, man, I've

503
00:30:37.599 --> 00:30:41.920
gotten one person reached out to me about an area

504
00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:44.920
in Iowa. They were in a state park and they

505
00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:49.079
had seen something that looked like an extremely large orangutan

506
00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:55.359
scaling the side of a rock wall. In some parts

507
00:30:55.359 --> 00:31:00.200
of Iowa, we do actually have a substantial rock wall

508
00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:04.440
and cliff faces in the state parks. You wouldn't think it,

509
00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:07.119
but we do. And they saw it looked like an

510
00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:12.319
extremely larger anguton just going across a rock wall, which

511
00:31:12.319 --> 00:31:14.599
is weird. I mean, there's some weird, weird stuff out there.

512
00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:19.799
But you've had these experiences, You've looked into stuff. Do

513
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:24.400
you have any idea of what Bigfoot is or or

514
00:31:24.519 --> 00:31:30.039
any leanings certain ways that the years that you've looked

515
00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:30.400
into this.

516
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:40.839
I just think that they've been here for a long time,

517
00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:46.200
you know. I think they evolved over time. And I

518
00:31:46.279 --> 00:31:53.119
don't know a lot about that particular subset, but I

519
00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:56.880
think they I do believe they came across the strait,

520
00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:05.440
you know, and that's how they got here. And you know,

521
00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:09.400
i'll see I don't want to see one because I

522
00:32:09.519 --> 00:32:13.039
probably have a heart attack. You know. If I was

523
00:32:13.079 --> 00:32:16.279
younger and in shape and my mind was like a marine,

524
00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:18.680
I'd be like, yeah, let me see it, as long

525
00:32:18.720 --> 00:32:23.640
as it's way down there, you know. But I mean,

526
00:32:23.759 --> 00:32:26.680
if I saw one from a distance, a big distance,

527
00:32:26.720 --> 00:32:29.880
that would be one thing. But just to come up

528
00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:33.759
on one, it probably scam me to death. But I

529
00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:38.160
think they're they just say they're part human or whatever.

530
00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:44.559
I mean, they're pretty smart. They're not stupid. They plan

531
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:47.279
things they can hide from you. I don't know about

532
00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:52.839
the paranormal stuff. I mean, I believe in UFOs, you know,

533
00:32:53.720 --> 00:33:01.920
and there's things that in science that you know, you

534
00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:03.920
look at that and say, well, there's no way that

535
00:33:03.960 --> 00:33:06.359
could happen. But I don't know. I don't know if

536
00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:08.359
they can go from I look at the story from

537
00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:11.720
up in Erie, Pennsylvania, at the lake where the four

538
00:33:11.839 --> 00:33:14.359
the couples were out there and they saw one just

539
00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:19.039
kind of come down from a ship, you know or whatever. Yep.

540
00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:21.880
And I mean, I think we know UFOs are real.

541
00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:26.279
Or we're past that point for sure. You know. That

542
00:33:26.400 --> 00:33:29.400
is like the government's telling us very much.

543
00:33:29.559 --> 00:33:32.720
But I just I mean, I mean, just look at

544
00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:35.599
their face as some of them, I mean, it looks human.

545
00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:38.119
You know. I know in Russia, didn't they have one

546
00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:44.519
captivity that actually mingled with the the people in the

547
00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:46.880
along like the thirties or forties.

548
00:33:47.519 --> 00:33:50.359
That's the story. Yeah, that's the story. If you look

549
00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:57.119
into old the first rendition of Monster Quests, Doug Hijack

550
00:33:57.200 --> 00:34:00.960
put out, there's a really interesting Uh, there's at least

551
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:06.920
one interesting episode about the what the the Russians were

552
00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:13.000
doing trying to create some type of hybrid soldier. I

553
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:15.599
believe I might have that wrong, but I think I've

554
00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:17.800
got it right. And you know, you guys can check

555
00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:20.679
that out. It might be on YouTube. But it is

556
00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:23.800
a wild it's a wild episode. And then there is

557
00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:28.440
there's also the other story and man, what is Maybe

558
00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:30.760
someone can put in the comments. I think it begins

559
00:34:30.760 --> 00:34:34.199
with a Z A z or V the name of

560
00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:35.880
the female individual.

561
00:34:35.920 --> 00:34:36.239
Female?

562
00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:42.880
Right, Yeah, interesting story, Yeah, and I believe, Yeah.

563
00:34:42.360 --> 00:34:45.440
I had heard, and I don't, like I said, I

564
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:52.400
don't know that the dog men ever are connected to

565
00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:56.800
the government somehow. And somebody would tell me one time

566
00:34:56.840 --> 00:34:59.639
that if China ever attacked us, that they could assemble

567
00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:01.360
those than like twenty minutes or something.

568
00:35:01.400 --> 00:35:05.280
I don't know, I imagine, but it would be the

569
00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:07.119
worst we've had.

570
00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:09.840
We've had sightings of those up here, like not too

571
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:13.679
far from my house, the area I live in. It's

572
00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:16.679
called Canton. And then we've got l A j Oh,

573
00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:19.320
Yeah for LJ. And then Blue Rich you know where

574
00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:23.079
the museum is. Yeah, and I guess they've seen them

575
00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:28.719
in cemeteries and yeah, things like that. I mean, if

576
00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:32.599
those are if those are real, I don't know what

577
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:35.119
to say. I probably won't go outside my house a little.

578
00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:41.519
I mean, there was, dude, there was I was just

579
00:35:41.559 --> 00:35:47.400
in Tennessee, in Middle Tennessee at a park with a

580
00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:52.880
guy and we were like, it's a really active area, dude.

581
00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:59.360
We were. We were in this cemetery and he's like,

582
00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:01.239
you should do a big foot call. I was like,

583
00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:03.079
all right, So when I do that, I do it

584
00:36:03.280 --> 00:36:07.280
just a I just imitate Bobo's how Like I just

585
00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:09.840
rip off Bobo pretty much is what I do. And

586
00:36:11.159 --> 00:36:14.119
I know joke like we have it on I have

587
00:36:14.199 --> 00:36:16.519
it on film, I just haven't put it out yet

588
00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:22.360
where I do the call and then seconds later there

589
00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:26.119
is one that responds. We do it, I do it again,

590
00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:30.079
and then there's multiple responses of the same type of call.

591
00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:35.800
And I was able to check with certain individuals. Was

592
00:36:35.880 --> 00:36:39.519
there an expedition in this area that same time? There

593
00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:42.360
was not? And I mean, dude, they were they were

594
00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:46.440
shooting back where they were howling back within like half

595
00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:50.719
a second a second much quicker then. Like if you're

596
00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:52.480
a human and you're like, oh, I'm going to try

597
00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:54.440
to like replicate that and do it back, it's going

598
00:36:54.519 --> 00:36:56.719
to take you more than a few seconds to do it. Usually,

599
00:36:56.920 --> 00:36:58.599
like you have to get prepared.

600
00:36:59.320 --> 00:36:59.400
Uh.

601
00:36:59.559 --> 00:37:05.719
It was so weird, weird stuff down there. I've never

602
00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:09.079
run into dog man stuff. I hope that I never do.

603
00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:12.360
That's the goal, never to do it. Yeah, but I

604
00:37:12.400 --> 00:37:14.960
mean you'll keep putting yourself out there and you can

605
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:17.760
run into weird stuff. But you were also in a

606
00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:23.000
in this book, correct Sharon Sharon Ebe's book.

607
00:37:23.679 --> 00:37:29.440
Yes, she reads out to me. I guess she saw

608
00:37:29.519 --> 00:37:32.239
my story or whatever, and I got to talking to her.

609
00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:35.800
She's done several books. This particular book, it's a thick book.

610
00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:39.679
It's got My story is probably not the best one

611
00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:42.840
in there because the way it was written. There's some

612
00:37:42.920 --> 00:37:44.599
things that were left out because you know, they don't

613
00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:46.239
have a lot of room and stuff in somebody's book.

614
00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:50.320
But there are a lot of good information in that

615
00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:53.760
book right there. And I think she just did another one.

616
00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:56.840
But yeah, I think she's up in Nova Scotia.

617
00:37:57.480 --> 00:38:00.199
It's a massive book. She's she's I think I think

618
00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:04.880
she's re publishing them kind of that book split apart

619
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:07.360
into other books. So it's yeah readable.

620
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:09.920
She just let me actually let me know that about

621
00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:11.159
a week and a half ago when I told her

622
00:38:11.199 --> 00:38:12.280
I was going to be on your show.

623
00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:18.880
But if people want to read more about the the

624
00:38:18.960 --> 00:38:23.639
story I share, that's the guy hiking in the woods

625
00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:29.679
near Oakridge, Oregon, and there's the woods changed into jungle

626
00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:32.440
and it's like he walks into a portal and then

627
00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:36.719
this hairy arm with clawed fingers comes out of the

628
00:38:36.760 --> 00:38:41.599
portal and almost grabs his neck and says, gotcha. Sharon

629
00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:44.760
is the one that documented that story, and it's in

630
00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:47.239
that book. So if you want to read more about it,

631
00:38:48.360 --> 00:38:53.840
that that story was documented during a BFRO expedition somewhere

632
00:38:53.840 --> 00:38:58.719
in the American Southwest a few years back. But I'll

633
00:38:58.760 --> 00:39:00.480
go look at that. It's a good book.

634
00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:05.280
Do you know Leanne Carnegie from up in Ontario. I

635
00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:08.360
don't think so you should get her on your show.

636
00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:13.079
She's done a lot of videos about stick structures and

637
00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:15.599
things up in the Ontario area, which I believe is

638
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:17.880
a hotspot up there.

639
00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:23.719
Yeah. When I started this, I had a few people

640
00:39:23.760 --> 00:39:25.840
that said, dude, you're going to run out of people

641
00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:27.679
to talk to about Bigfoot. And I was like, you

642
00:39:27.679 --> 00:39:30.039
know what, I have a feeling that I'm not going

643
00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:33.559
to and it'll probably outlast me. So do you think

644
00:39:33.639 --> 00:39:34.599
that once you know.

645
00:39:35.239 --> 00:39:40.480
Do you think that eastern eastern Tennessee, western North Carolina

646
00:39:41.679 --> 00:39:44.480
is a very big hot spot?

647
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:49.440
Oh, I'd say one hundred, dude. I was actually I've

648
00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:53.320
never been to North Carolina. I've been to eastern Tennessee

649
00:39:54.199 --> 00:39:59.079
just recently as part of the same trip. And see

650
00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:03.840
what we have over there. Oh yeah, we we were

651
00:40:03.920 --> 00:40:08.119
in this We're in Harley Owens Research Area and me

652
00:40:08.159 --> 00:40:12.079
and Robbie Ferrell were out there and we were in

653
00:40:12.119 --> 00:40:15.159
the middle of these mountain laurels, dude, and we were

654
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:19.199
finding tracks that were I mean there were like fifteen

655
00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:23.960
sixteen inches across a few feet between them, stick structures

656
00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:28.599
like I've never seen like huge, huge pieces of logs

657
00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:32.119
that were broken off and then placed way way up

658
00:40:32.320 --> 00:40:36.239
in the Uh. Maybe I'll put some pictures in of

659
00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:39.440
that that might be good. So it's incredible. And then

660
00:40:39.679 --> 00:40:44.320
the crazy thing because a few months before Harley and

661
00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:47.320
Robbie had been chased out of this area by bigfoot

662
00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:50.119
and it was pretty intense. So he took me back

663
00:40:50.239 --> 00:40:54.320
to the area. It was a spring where they usually

664
00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:56.039
find tracks. We're checking it out and then all of

665
00:40:56.039 --> 00:40:58.920
a sudden, I hear something up in the laurel, up

666
00:40:58.920 --> 00:41:04.960
on the hill. And I wouldn't say like people will say,

667
00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:08.119
you know, it came rushing towards me, like it was

668
00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:11.599
a big mac truck, you know, they'll say that it

669
00:41:11.679 --> 00:41:15.800
wasn't that, But it was something that was rather large,

670
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:19.320
and it was coming towards us, not to invite us

671
00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:21.880
in for a cup of tea. It was more like

672
00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:25.280
a like, hey, it's probably time to get out of here.

673
00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:27.519
So I don't know if it was a bigfoot or

674
00:41:27.519 --> 00:41:30.760
a bear. We didn't stick around either way. We're not

675
00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:33.599
going to stick around to see if it's a bigfoot

676
00:41:33.679 --> 00:41:36.119
or a bear and it's rushing towards us. But that

677
00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:39.119
was I would say Eastern Tennessee has some weird stuff

678
00:41:39.159 --> 00:41:41.840
going on. I mean, Harley's told me about mothman stuff

679
00:41:41.840 --> 00:41:45.800
over there, and dog Nan and a whole weird That

680
00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:47.159
area is weird as all get out.

681
00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:52.599
Why do you think that researchers don't use gauge impressions

682
00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:55.840
as much? Because the problem what I'm worried about right

683
00:41:55.880 --> 00:42:00.559
now is with AI, every video you look at, how

684
00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:03.760
do you even know? Before you you know, you could

685
00:42:03.800 --> 00:42:07.039
probably get a good idea, But with AI, it's like

686
00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:10.280
you couldn't believe any video you look at. So I

687
00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:13.360
don't I just don't understand why they don't use the

688
00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:17.440
gauge impressions. You know, I see these where they have

689
00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:20.119
these big get togethers and stuff, but it seems like

690
00:42:20.159 --> 00:42:22.119
they never even bring it up. But yet, to me,

691
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:25.079
if you want science, that's science.

692
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:28.719
So how would you how would let's say, how would

693
00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:35.119
everyday bigfoot researcher start to to incorporate something like that

694
00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:35.719
into the well?

695
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:37.880
I would say, And like I said, I don't know

696
00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:41.639
what that equipment costs, so it's probably not something you

697
00:42:41.639 --> 00:42:44.800
can just run out and get, you know, you know,

698
00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:48.440
maybe they could collaborate together and share it. Who knows.

699
00:42:48.480 --> 00:42:52.679
I don't know. I would say, like, for your example,

700
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:56.960
if you're out somewhere and you find huge footprints, you know,

701
00:42:57.079 --> 00:43:02.320
sixteen eighteen feet depend on Like my brother had a

702
00:43:02.320 --> 00:43:04.639
degree in agronomy, So it's a study of the soils,

703
00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:09.039
you know. So it's like, I think we should start

704
00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:12.960
if we can building up some kind of database with

705
00:43:14.960 --> 00:43:18.360
these gauge impressions and different types of soils around the country,

706
00:43:18.400 --> 00:43:23.280
different places, because you can determine like, okay, like the

707
00:43:23.320 --> 00:43:24.960
one I saw, like I wish I could find that

708
00:43:25.039 --> 00:43:27.920
it was so many years ago where they said, okay,

709
00:43:27.960 --> 00:43:31.599
it would have to be five sport stride, which that's

710
00:43:31.679 --> 00:43:33.599
not too hard to prove now because you can see

711
00:43:33.599 --> 00:43:36.159
it in the footprints, but it would have to be

712
00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:39.360
at least this amount of weight to make that a

713
00:43:39.440 --> 00:43:42.920
kind of an impression in that type of soil. You know.

714
00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:48.239
I think if they could do that and study that

715
00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:53.800
and build up a database of that, that that would

716
00:43:53.840 --> 00:43:58.159
be good information. You know, maybe in this area they're bigger,

717
00:43:58.239 --> 00:44:00.280
maybe in this area they're not, Maybe they're you know

718
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:00.679
what I mean.

719
00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:04.239
It's like that's a good idea. I think. I don't

720
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:05.840
know if this is similar to what you're saying, but

721
00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:08.840
I know a lot of people are more starting to

722
00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:14.920
use the newer, newer iPhones and androids. They you can

723
00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:17.440
get these apps where you do a three D scan

724
00:44:18.719 --> 00:44:21.679
and man, like scan a verse is a good one.

725
00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:24.760
Once you get a three D scan of a footprint,

726
00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:27.880
you can see a lot more data than if you're

727
00:44:27.960 --> 00:44:31.079
just looking at it straight with your eyes. You get

728
00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:33.639
that three D scan and man, you can see exactly

729
00:44:33.760 --> 00:44:37.400
how far down the toes are going, and it is

730
00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:40.679
just it's it's worth people check that out. I think

731
00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:43.719
scan of Verse doesn't cost anything as of this time,

732
00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:48.239
but it is it's worth. You can even scan environments,

733
00:44:48.320 --> 00:44:50.239
like if you're in a certain environment, you get a

734
00:44:50.280 --> 00:44:53.400
three D scan of a stick structure, you know, and

735
00:44:53.480 --> 00:44:55.320
that's that's totally invaluable.

736
00:44:55.920 --> 00:45:00.400
And quantum I think quantum AI actually you know, not

737
00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:04.159
to alarm people, but and not to get political, but

738
00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:08.519
quantum AYI. Whoever controls that controls everything. It's gonna help

739
00:45:08.599 --> 00:45:11.440
so many people. Unfortunately we have to control it else

740
00:45:11.519 --> 00:45:14.880
China will. But I think with that kind of stuff

741
00:45:14.920 --> 00:45:17.519
coming up, that'll those will be a lot more tools

742
00:45:17.559 --> 00:45:22.400
that people will be able to use. But I am worried.

743
00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:25.199
Like I said, if we don't with AI and everything

744
00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:29.840
showing current AI where somebody throws up a video and

745
00:45:29.880 --> 00:45:32.440
just kind of make it look like something, you know,

746
00:45:33.039 --> 00:45:36.199
it's gonna it's gonna hurt us as far as, uh,

747
00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:40.199
not our industry, but as far as researchers. Because somebody

748
00:45:40.199 --> 00:45:42.400
can just say, well that's AI, you have no way

749
00:45:42.440 --> 00:45:45.280
to prove it. When they have AI, that's gonna be different.

750
00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:48.320
Just like quantum AYI if somebody is cheating on something,

751
00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:50.800
or if somebody's doing something wrong, it'll pick it right.

752
00:45:50.920 --> 00:45:53.960
From what I understand, listen to Jovon bullets Er, who's

753
00:45:53.960 --> 00:45:58.000
a genius, brilliant man. It'll pick out things like you

754
00:45:58.039 --> 00:46:02.239
won't have corrupt potations anymore because they'll they'll pull it out,

755
00:46:02.239 --> 00:46:04.079
they'll find it right away, you know, stuff like that.

756
00:46:04.599 --> 00:46:09.920
But I just I think the the gauge impressions. I

757
00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:12.440
wish that, you know, they could look into that more

758
00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:14.920
because I think that's going to be a key we're

759
00:46:14.960 --> 00:46:18.400
going to need going forward, only because people can just say, oh,

760
00:46:18.480 --> 00:46:20.960
that's not real. That's not like like we know that

761
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:25.000
the Gimlin film is real because they didn't have the

762
00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:29.639
technology back then. Right, there's and and also I think

763
00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:34.400
they did gauge impressions for that. But and also you

764
00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:39.639
can't find a human in a monkey suit who can

765
00:46:39.679 --> 00:46:42.519
make a gauge impression that's something eight hundred to twelve

766
00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:47.000
bounds could make. With Dermo ridges, I strive to be

767
00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:49.320
seventy nine feet tall. I mean, to me, it's just

768
00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:51.840
common sense. But like I said, I don't know what

769
00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:54.320
that that costs. I don't know how expensive they are.

770
00:46:54.360 --> 00:46:58.320
I don't know what goes into that. Maybe because they'll

771
00:46:58.360 --> 00:47:00.559
fun and get one we can pass around. I don't know.

772
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:03.280
It's a discussion. I mean, it's a discussion that could

773
00:47:03.280 --> 00:47:07.119
go on for another fifty sixty years. I think, who

774
00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:12.400
knows h But man, it's uh Bigfoot's Bigot's a weird topic.

775
00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:17.119
It's a fun topic because as as technology progresses, then

776
00:47:17.159 --> 00:47:21.760
it's just another way for us to look at the

777
00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:24.079
big Foot topic and to see, Okay, maybe we can

778
00:47:24.119 --> 00:47:26.639
figure it out. Now, Oh we're not. We're not close

779
00:47:26.719 --> 00:47:29.239
enough yet. Maybe we can do this. But like, man,

780
00:47:29.239 --> 00:47:31.800
we're talking about AI. Like if I get a video

781
00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:36.519
or a photo, if it doesn't have some sort of metadata,

782
00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:40.280
I can't believe it anymore. You know what I mean, Like,

783
00:47:40.400 --> 00:47:42.920
it's just it's it's too bad too, because it's like

784
00:47:42.920 --> 00:47:45.039
we knew it was coming. We knew it was at

785
00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:46.719
the point is going to be at the point where

786
00:47:46.719 --> 00:47:52.119
you get these videos that look so good, you gotta

787
00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:55.360
have that metadata, you know, or something like that to

788
00:47:55.519 --> 00:47:59.760
prove that it is it's real, because just anyone would

789
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:02.719
that knows even a little bit about AI can can

790
00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:05.760
make even they can even make video now that looks

791
00:48:05.840 --> 00:48:09.000
like it was filmed with a handycam back in the

792
00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:13.400
nineties and it's got like the the dates and it

793
00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:15.920
got like a Bigfoot and it looks like the Freeman footage.

794
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:19.480
It's just it's crazy. It is crazy what people are

795
00:48:19.480 --> 00:48:22.920
coming out with. So you know it is you almost

796
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:25.360
have to have the video on the actual physical media

797
00:48:26.079 --> 00:48:29.280
improved like here it is on the VHS tape or

798
00:48:29.599 --> 00:48:35.519
you know, I don't know, ridiculous, but yeah, but Bud,

799
00:48:36.039 --> 00:48:39.360
what what a fun conversation. A few things that have

800
00:48:39.559 --> 00:48:41.679
never really been talked about on the show before. I

801
00:48:41.719 --> 00:48:44.400
appreciate you coming on the show. I want to make

802
00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:48.159
sure that you were able to share the different accounts

803
00:48:48.159 --> 00:48:52.400
and stories that you'd come on to share about from

804
00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:55.679
the different places you've lived in over the years. Thank you,

805
00:48:56.119 --> 00:49:00.400
Thank you so much, absolutely absolutely well, well, you know,

806
00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:02.119
keep us and keep us in mind. If you ever

807
00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:05.159
hear anything else going on down there in North Georgia,

808
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:07.360
I would love to hear about it. You can always

809
00:49:07.360 --> 00:49:10.679
send me an email and yeah, maybe we get an

810
00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:12.840
update from you in the future. But thank you so

811
00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:15.239
much for coming on the show today, Bud.

812
00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:18.039
Thanks for having me. And like I said, I'd appreciate

813
00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:23.199
everything you're doing and all your work. I listen to

814
00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:28.239
your podcasts frequently. You have a lot of them, but

815
00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:32.320
everyone is different and every story is different, and you

816
00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:37.119
know constantly, you know, learning new things that I would

817
00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:39.679
have never even thought of. So we appreciate you and

818
00:49:39.719 --> 00:49:40.440
everything you're doing.

819
00:49:41.360 --> 00:49:43.159
Thank you, Bud, Thank you, Bud. You have a great

820
00:49:43.199 --> 00:49:44.119
rest of your day, sir.

821
00:49:44.800 --> 00:49:46.119
All right, thank you, sir.

822
00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:50.280
Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity

823
00:49:50.360 --> 00:49:53.559
around Oakridge, Oregon and you think to yourself, Man, I

824
00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:56.400
would love to get out in those woods and experience

825
00:49:56.480 --> 00:50:01.000
it for myself. Well guess what this year you can.

826
00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:04.559
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829
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830
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831
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836
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which is Searching for Sasquatch. This is a once in

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845
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the costs there. Appreciate that, Priscilla. Before we wrap this episode,

846
00:51:31.679 --> 00:51:34.320
I want to say something directly to a very specific

847
00:51:34.320 --> 00:51:37.840
group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch

848
00:51:38.119 --> 00:51:40.840
or forces, and if you've seen something that no one

849
00:51:40.840 --> 00:51:44.079
can explain, or if you're a National park ranger or

850
00:51:44.199 --> 00:51:47.719
forestryt worker who's been told to stay quiet, or if you're

851
00:51:47.760 --> 00:51:51.159
a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground,

852
00:51:51.559 --> 00:51:54.360
or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or

853
00:51:54.400 --> 00:51:57.920
working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed

854
00:51:57.920 --> 00:52:01.000
to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or

855
00:52:01.000 --> 00:52:04.639
search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks

856
00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:07.800
that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging industry

857
00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:11.639
on a remote oil field, or a trucker with government

858
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contracts and you've had something happen that you've never told

859
00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:19.000
a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist,

860
00:52:19.159 --> 00:52:22.559
or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence

861
00:52:22.679 --> 00:52:26.320
you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary,

862
00:52:26.440 --> 00:52:29.599
or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw something

863
00:52:29.639 --> 00:52:34.159
that shook your faith, or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA,

864
00:52:34.360 --> 00:52:37.840
or anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

865
00:52:39.159 --> 00:52:42.639
then I want to talk to you. Even if it's anonymous.

866
00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:48.000
You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

867
00:52:48.400 --> 00:52:50.840
The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

868
00:52:50.880 --> 00:52:56.800
carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story,

869
00:52:57.199 --> 00:53:01.599
We've got the mic. See you. Thank you for listening

870
00:53:01.679 --> 00:53:04.639
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871
00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:06.960
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