Ohio Farm Family Faces Bigfoot

0:00 You're listening to Big the Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron Tonight's story doesn't come from the Pacific Northwest or even the mountains of Appalachia. Comes from the quiet farm fields northeast of Columbus, Ohio, where mother and daughter found something watching them from across the field. It started with a strange figure behind the wild rose bushes. Then came the mimicry, the silent woods, and the terrified dog, and the moment when everything they thought they knew about their land changed forever. This isn't a story about believing in Bigfoot. It's a story about what happens when it starts believing in you. And this is a story of Judy and Grace in what was waiting in the bend of the river. So stay with us, all right, Bigfoot Society. You've got the privilege of talking to Judy in Grace today. Judy in Grace, they're on a farm that is northeast of Columbus, Ohio.

0:47 I've been having some interesting activity happened over the years. We have Judy is mother, Grace is the daughter. Just for context as well. Welcome to both of you and thanks for being on the show. Today. Yeah, thank you, Oh, thank you so much. It's quite an honor, awesome, and Judy, I want to make sure that we have the time to get through this whole account, so I'm going to go ahead and pass things over to you. Well, first I just have to start by saying, you know, I have always believed in Bigfoot my whole life, but never my wildest dreams would I ever have thought that I might actually have an experienced someday. I believe in this kind of thing, but I'm also extremely skeptical, so I don't just jump in and believe just anything. So when my daughter had her first sighting, I'm absolutely looking back, I'm horrified to know that I discounted her, completely discounted her experiences. I shocked myself that I was so skeptical.

2:04 And what ends up happening is that I thought, in her experience or her sighting the first one, that it was a bear, and I got myself completely completely convinced that it was a bear, but it definitely wasn't. So Grace. We'll explain her two sightings. So the first sighting, I was probably eleven years old, so a few years ago. For context, I'm twenty about to be twenty one in July, and I was back at our river. We have a river running through some woods of ours in our backyard, and my cousin and one of my close friends, we were back at the river like we normally do. I used to swim in the river all the time when I was growing up, and I never really felt weird back there. And that's why just the three of us went by ourselves, because we were going back there, and after a while of us playing in the water, skipping a few rocks, we started to feel a little bit weird. We kind of felt like we were being watched. And you know, we all feel we can tell when we're being watched, so we knew something was up. So we were like, okay, let's just let's just head back to the house, you know, let's just get some food or whatever. And when we were walking back, it's probably about what a five minute walk back to the house from the river ten fifteen.

3:36 Minutes back to the house. On our walk, we turned back because we really felt like we were being watched. And that's when we saw a kind of ashy brown figure standing at the tree line. So there's a field and then trees and then the river. So there was you know, like I said, an ash Brown figures standing just watching us, very still didn't move. Could see that there was no real distinction of shoulders in the head. It kind of just all you know, blended in together, so it was a very thick neck, and we all just kind of we stood there for I don't know a few seconds, maybe enough time to look at each other being like do you see that, agreeing yes, we all see that, and then running back like we just saw a ghost because you know, we just saw bigfoot or you know, didn't come to find that out later, but it was Ashley Brown. And then just recently, just this past summer, we kind of measured the weeds that it was standing behind because we could only see from the chest up, and so we measured those bushes about what would you say, five.

4:58 Five and a half feet high there wild rose bushes, Yeah, all back there, so. It would have had to have been up to nine feet tall on the scale that the bushes are, it would have had to have been nine foot tall because we saw it from the chest up and we came back, we were all like, you know, pale as all can be because what we just saw and then a few of the years later or so, when I was roughly fourteen or fifteen years old, I was with a different friend and we were again back at the river at a different place. We were back. Kind of farther deeper into the river, and we were just skipping rocks, swimming in the river. And then we heard chickens when we were back there, and I was like.

5:47 We both looked at each other. We were like, that's weird. I don't know of any chickens. You know, It's been my whole life that I've lived here. I've never heard chickens back there. And so we kind of were like, Okay, that's. A little weird. Maybe our neighbors got chickens or whatever. Come to find out, there are no chickens near us. And then I started to feel weird again. And I wasn't telling my friend anything because I was like, you know, I don't. Want to scare her. And then all of a sudden, we or I really felt something off. And then the woods went quiet, and I every summer went back to the woods never heard.

6:32 The woods go silent. There was not a cricket, not a frog, not a bird, nothing. And then so after I felt that. I was like, that's really weird. So I started to scope the area, and there's a ridge on the other side of the river where we were standing, so it was directly across from where I was standing. Started to scope that cliff side and there was a little opening of trees where I saw this figure, this dark figure, glide across the opening of the trees. It was hunched over. It was on two feet, so it was running, and it looked very large. It had its arms curled up close to its chest, looking like it was holding something. I didn't see enough detail to see if it was actually holding something, but it was just gliding across. I didn't hear its footprints.

7:26 It didn't make any noise in the trees, didn't make any sort of crunching on twigs. And I've seen deer though past I've seen other animals, kind of coyote, running across and they make sounds. I know what the wildlife in our backyard looks like. It did not look like any of those. It was too big to be a human. And you know, me and my mom tried to recreate what it looked like, or I tried to recreate what it looked like and it was too hunched over its torso was too horizontal for a person to be able to recreate what it looked like at the speed it was running and the smoothness of its run, and it wasn't a bear because it was too slim to be a bear, too fast, too smooth to be a bear.

8:21 Because you know, when bears are walking, they're kind of meandering, kind of you know, lugging around, and then when they're running, there's a distinct way they run their you know, shoulders raised and then their hind raises after they plant their first two feet, and it wasn't doing that. It was running on two legs. And then that's when I was like, you know, told my friend, I just saw something. We got to get out of here. So we ran back to the house and that's when I told my mom that I just saw somebody back there, and he first. Thought it was a bear. Yeah, and I just completely poo pooed it, thinking yeah, whatever, And then I thought I saw a footprint that my stomach sank because it looked like a human print, but it was then a print on top of a print, and so I start doing all this research thing we really don't have bears around here, but it's possible there are a couple bears ish, and so I was just certain, Okay, well it was a bear. She saw a black bear, And then I started looking up. The whole chicken thing didn't make sense.

9:35 We are in a more than one hundred acre farm and then there's fields around that, so we are not anywhere close to anyone. Even if they did have chickens, we couldn't hear it. And so I thought, wow, well, what's that is that just I don't know. I looked it up, and I guess sometimes bear cubs can sound like That's what I thought there. It is the more we the more we've experienced, the less I think that's the case. My son and his friend were back at the river then around at the same time. He would have been probably twelve at the time, and they were back there fishing, and they came charging back and his friend said, there's an orange man back there. So of course I put PuO it and I'm thinking, okay, a hunter wearing like, you know, those bright orange vests. But my son's friend hunts, and he would have known that.

10:36 He would have said it would have was a hunter's vest. So he said there was an orange man. So so that's that. The other thing that I wanted to say before I get to my experiences is that all of these things that Grace experienced and that I experienced, we had no idea they had anything to do with Bigfoot. So it's not like we were trying to make anything fit. We came to that realization afterwards. In the chickens. By the way, I was listening to one of your podcasts just last night. I listened to all of them, and it was one of them, and she said talked about how she heard chickens as well, kind of mimicking chickens.

11:18 So for mine, mine started in October of twenty twenty one, and I kept hearing tree knocks back there, and at first I didn't know what that was. And then we went to a Bigfoot talk at our local library and he talked about Mark Dwarth and he talked about tree knocks, and all of a sudden we just first done. That's probably what that was. So and I did send you a video where one of them I captured on video. I'm unfortunately kind of saying a word over it, which makes me mad. But I didn't know it was going to happen. Then that really got me before my experiences started.

12:03 As I would walk, We've got a German shepherd, and she would go back. We would go every day back in the woods for our walk, and she loved it. She ran, she jumped, This was the greatest time in the world. And all of a sudden she would get antsy back there and she would be kind of pointing, you know, looking at a particular place. And finally she got to the point where she would stop before we even got back into the woods. And then she would stand in front of me and not let me get go any further. So I'd try and try and get her back there, and she wouldn't go. So we'd turn around and she'd run back. Every time we'd go on a walk, she would not She would she would quit closer and closer to the house. I mean we're still, you know, probably half a mile from the house, but she wouldn't make it any further each time, and it would get closer and closer where she around, and finally she was just like, you know, hey, you're on your own, honey, I'm going back, and she wouldn't even block me. And I got to where I thought, Okay, I'm going to trick her, and we walked another direction around one of our fields, and then we kind of went to the side and I got her going. She was fine, and the minute she rounded where that corner was and she could see the woods back she went. It got so bad.

13:29 She would dig, try to dig under our deck to hide before I could get obviously, she would beat me back to the door and it would get so bad she would not go on a walk. She wouldn't even go around the barn to even think about going on a walk, And it got to the point where I couldn't even get her to go outside. She was so absolutely terrified. So this is what then led me to contacting an animal communicator. And I was not thinking Bigfoot at all about this, but a friend of mine had used this animal communicator. And again, I believe in mediums. I believe in all that, but I'm just very skeptical because I don't know if these people are actually good at it, right, So I wasn't thinking much. I was just wanting to know what was in Abby's mind so that I could get her to go on these walks again with me. And that's all I said to the man, and I told him that she was a German shepherd and that she wouldn't go back there. And he starts saying, he said, well, she's smelling something noxious. Now, none of us have ever smelled anything. Grace said she didn't smell anything with her sightings. But he says something really bad, like dead animal, pooh, everything bad, noxious, And then he was asking. He says, I don't know, I'm trying to figure this out. Do you have like a gas line or something through your property? And I sid, well, yeah, but not anywhere close to that. And we've never smelled that.

15:00 So he kept going and then he says, I'm seeing of course, he's saying that he's getting this from Abbey, but he says, I'm seeing really black fur, really really long dark fur. And he says, and if I see fur like that, it means it's an animal that's alive. So something is back there. And he says, longest fur, and he said that I wrote this down. He says it's like a bear, but not a bear, and then he kept saying, I didn't think we had bear here in Ohio. But it's a bear, but it's not a bear. It's bigger than a bear, and I finally just spoke up. I said, might it be a bigfoot? And he said, yes, that's what I was thinking. He says, but I wasn't going to say it. I'm going to make you say it.

15:48 So he says, I didn't even think there were bigfoot in Ohio and completely new to him. But he says that that's what she's terrified about. And he said, you know, it could be miles away that she's smelling. It was then soon after that that I heard my first howl. And I sent you a map of our farm and there are three arrows in it. The lowest era of the one down furthest on the picture is where I found the tree structures. The next one up to it, like a little north east of that arrow is another era. That's where I heard this howl come from. And it was probably one in the morning. I had taken Abby out still night and I heard one howl. And at this point I had no idea what the Ohio howl was.

16:40 Never heard it, and I came back in the how thinking what the heck was that he wasn't a coyote. I know coyotes, and when they get going, they get going, and it's terrifying because the whole pack that's going. This was one single creature, one howl, and I recorded myself doing it. It kind of went up and then down, and then that's when I started looking it up and I heard the Ohio how and my spine just tingled. That's exactly what I heard. So then I it was a couple weeks after that, I was woken up by these howls and they were at the northern part, so at the top part of that picture there's an eraw.

17:24 That's where I heard the next set, and it was about three in the morning. It was the same Ohio how with maybe a fifteen second interval in between each one. I heard maybe four or five of them, and by the time I got up to get my phone out to go to the front door to record this, they stopped, so that was kind of a bummer. So then it's the tree structures, so I decide, well, that's where I had heard this howl. So on one of my walks, I went back in the woods that way and that's where I saw all these They were just like branches bent over. There were two main arches and I thought they stuck out like a sore thrum, because everything is just straight. The trees don't do that back there, And when I was looking at them closer, it wasn't like they were woven, but kind of you know, this wasn't just a natural fall, because the branch would be on one side and then it would kind of curve around and it would hook the tree anyway. And I just thought that is so so bizarre. And so then soon after that, my brother, who wanted to see this. He just could not understand how people would say, you know, I feel like somebody is watching me. He says, I don't understand that. He completely believes in this, but wanted to see it for himself. We went back to the river.

18:54 He didn't feel anything. We went back to where those tree structures were. He got in there and he's as we got to get out of here. He just felt like we needed to get out. I had never felt that, but he did. Maybe it was because he was a man. And then I went back and I had sent you another picture where I looked up and there was a pelt of a raccoon late flat. You know, it wasn't a dead raccoon, it was the pelt of one and it was perfectly half hanging over a branch way up in the tree, and I thought, he did that get up there? I look up in the trees all the time. I'm a tree fanatic, and I've never seen anything like that.

19:38 The branch was too thin for an actual raccoon to die up there, you know, half over the branch, it wouldn't have held it up. And it was just sitting up there. And I think maybe two days later I went back and it was gone, was not on the ground. It was nowhere, no to be found. So and now I've gone back since then and none of those tree structures are there because all of those branches dried up and broke off and they're just down on the ground now. So what we saw was obviously fresh, freshly dug. So those are the things that we've experienced. We just think that, you know, we've got one hundred plus acre farm. We've got fields all around, as we have thirty five acres of woods, and we've got this river, a small river, but it's a river that flows through our property through the woods and it meanders. And I've also heard on one of your podcasts somebody saying that bends in the river something that they congregate around. Well, we've got probably five bends around the river.

20:54 That's very very true. Yep. Yeah, And we've got this huge ridge. Know I'm terrible with distances and heights, but that that ridge is one hundred feet problem. It's huge, the one that Grace saw one on top of. So we've got all kinds of deer, turkey, everything, so it would be a good place to find one. I don't know, you know, and I'm not saying what I experienced was, but now I completely believe Grace with what she saw. And now I just go back there. And I've also heard maybe speaking in an indigenous language they like, So I go back there and say, I'm your friend, and I say it in Cherokee and thank you for letting us share these woods. We're not trying to do anything.

21:44 So wait, so you're saying words in Cherokee to them and phrases. Yes, just I am your friend, CEO ALI, And I hope that's correct if anybody listening. I just looked it up. Are there any responses after you do things like that? No, I've never heard anything. No, that's really interesting. I just say it every single time I walk back and cross that tree line into the woods just to say I'm just here, thank you for letting us share these woods, and I'm your friend, and I will leave you in peace. And I don't know, I don't think.

22:25 We don't think they're actually living back there now. We've had nothing in the last two years. And Abby or Dog can go back there now. Abby can go back there now. But we definitely think they were back there. They were passing through, you know, we're oh oh. And then also the time that I heard those howls, we were driving into the next little town over and lo and behold, got right behind a jeep that was a bigfoot research for jeep, and I remember commenting saying, see somebody else's experiencing something. I have no idea what that was. I haven't looked it up on the BFIRO or anything like that, but it just seems very od. And we have our small little library up here has had a number of big foot talks and the room is packed the only time the room is packed at the library, and every single person has had experience around here.

23:25 Yeah, I'm not surprised at all. I mean, off air, you told me a little bit more about the area which we do have to, you know, keep things a little bit hidden for privacy. But it is looking at the area in the river orientation like you were mentioning, is really perfect. It's crazy, like the way that the river goes and the ridges and stuff. It's nuts. It's like I've seen a lot of you know, you talk about the curves and the bends, and it's just like it's a really good place, no doubt about it. I get a few questions for grace if now at a good time. So I'm looking at the photo or the iPad drawings that you sent over that you did of both of your encounters. So did you use the two different ones that you saw? They were definitely different colors then, because it looks like you've got the ashy brown, but then the one up on across the river is a darker brown, right, yes, yes, black black? Okay, gotcha, gotcha.

24:41 Very interesting. How far away from the one where you had the face to face encounter where. You fifty feet fifty feet? Yeah, something, I'm not very distance, I'm not. I'm yeah, I don't know exactly where you were standing, but that where that bend is and where she pointed out it was standing. Yeah, feet Yeah, Okay, so yeah that I mean, that's that's pretty close. I mean, when you're talking feet, were you able to notice any any details about how it looked at all? Besides color?

25:23 I wasn't really able to see. I already have pretty bad eyesight, but I was able to see like the darkness of the face, Like around the eye area it was pretty dark, and the mouth and nose area, it was a. Darker color than the rest of its body. Okay, that's that's very interesting. And she said it was just standing Yeah, it was standing still. Okay, got it? Got it. Did you see anything about it that would make you lean more towards This looked more human, or this looked more ape like? Or was it a just completely different?

26:11 I mean it obviously wasn't a person, obviously, and it looked too upright to be like an ape. So it was. Really like I had never seen anything like it before. You know, my mom used to work with chimpanzees, and I've seen a bunch of different types of apes. Didn't look like any of those. It was just totally different. Gotcha. If we need to, we can take out that thing about your employment too. That's up to you. Employment. How you used to work with apes?

26:53 Oh that wasn't employment. No, Oh okay, I did it on the side. Oh fun, Okay, that's awesome, just like volunteer. Okay, cool. Yeah, they're good. Y're good. This is on the side as well. But have you guys ever, Well, I'm just gonna say you should look up the BFRO reports for your county. Have you done that? I had several years ago, but I haven't lately, and I should have done that before. There's one where it's because you're in looking right. Yes, yeah, there's one where like people see something that looked like a baboon back in eighty four, which is kind of weird, but very very weird.

27:37 The the bigfoot researcher that came and spoke at the library of the first one, and he's come back a couple of times. He he has talked about sightings south of US, north of US, east of US, I mean all around US. Are you talking about Mark de Worth? Yes? And Mark is a really, really smart guy and he is like one of the top guys for Ohio. So that's awesome that you were able to hear him talk. I think the baboon one was in Dennison University. Okay, it was in he said it was the they've got like a not an arboretum, but they've got a huge wooded area for classes and stuff. And it was one of the maintenance guys said he saw him up in the trees.

28:23 Oh, that's awesome. Have you ever reached out to see if anyone could come out to your property to take a look around, that would be a researcher. I well, I said something to Mark de Worth when he came back, and he, you know, he said that, yeah, our place sounds like it would be a good spot, and he said I'd have to see the stuff. But I don't think he was able to do it that night, and I don't he hasn't been back in this area. We also talked to Doug Waller. He came and spoke and yeah, he had interviewed Grace about the sightings. By that point, I hadn't had my experiences, so it was all just Grace.

29:08 Before. Because Grace's stuff was that it kind of kicked it off right before that. Was there any like really traumatic experience that happened. No, And that's something that I was gonna point out before or when I was talking is I. I never drank alcohol when I was a kid, never smoked, never did drugs, very by the rule book, didn't have any traumatic experiences I was. I'm not. I don't have schizophrenia. So it's truly because I have a friend who's very skeptical and his biggest thing was, well, did you hallucinate it?

29:50 And I'm like, no, there's there's nothing to have. Made me hallucinate, didn't have any traumatic experiences, wasn't I on any drugs, didn't have a big hangover. So yeah, and she's never done anything like this before. I mean, so it's not like she sees creatures in the woods. And I to kind of clarify what I meant there. So just a pattern that I've found over the years is that a lot of witnesses will have had something traumatic happen in their lives and then they'll have a sighting.

30:31 And so when I'm talking about like traumatic events, it could be something like you like. A friend dying, remember friend dying. Or you've got divorced, or something like really like you lost something. And sometimes when stuff like that happens, you know, I think there could be some like chemical signal that's that's thrown out there, but it's just something that I've kind of been looking into. But so nothing like that at all. I don't remember. I also remember Mark the Worth talking about how they're so it seemed to be interested in kids. So I could see very much that if Grace was back there with her friends, you know, they were probably as much on display as you know, any animal in the zoo, and so they probably have been watching. So oh.

31:24 Absolutely, and there was an individual that had a sighting of one with orange hair. Was that right? Yes? Yes, my son's friend came back and said, it's an orange man back there, And that was so far before it didn't even occur to me that that's what it could be. Absolutely, And were there any other details that were able to be received from him besides like just or orange color to it? No, just orange color. And they came charging back up and this is a big kid, and it just killed me, I mean, and I was just sort of laughing. But that, Yeah, the more I think about it now that kid still hunts, and well he's a man now, but.

32:18 Yeah, I. Just thought it would be a hunter. But now putting all these together, saying oh oh, and then there was One other thing that had happened for me is when I was walking and I again you can see on our the map the path going back to the woods actually runs parallel to the river at one point, like right in the middle. And so I'm walking parallel to this river and there's trees on both sides, it's all in the woods, and out of the blue, this huge limb came crashing down like I could hear it like that all the way down. I've never in my life heard that. It was not windy, never heard it before, never heard it since. And I'm thinking, what was that?

33:06 Scared me to death, you know, my husband saying, Oh, it was probably an animal that caught up on there. That'd be a pretty dagon heavy squirrel, and it was right in the middle of the day, so it wouldn't have been a raccoon. I just wonder, you know. Again, it's one of those things that just adds to the possibilities, but I don't want to make them try to fit. Yeah, exactly. It's a tricky thing because I feel when I when I go out and do stuff, I try to be on the side of like overly skeptical because I don't now get like blinders on. But I mean there's I was looking through the pictures you sent, and there's some really interesting like pictures of arches that you sent, even some of them where they are. It's the scenario where like the the trees arched over and then there's something holding it down right exactly.

34:05 And that's why I thought it's not necessarily woven. And Grace went back and saw it too, She's like, this is not natural fall where if a tree fell on one of those smaller saplings, it would have just sort of rolled off and bounced up and it was placed and then like anchored down between the branches, and there were two of them. It just shocked me when I went back there because I'd never seen that, and again, I didn't know those were tree structures. That's another thing you start learning the more you get into this, like oh my gosh, that fits too.

34:46 Yeah. The more you get into this whole deal, you start to get the terminology and you start to see patterns in people's reports. It's really wild stuff. Have you you ever talk to any of your neighbors about if they have similar things happen? I have not. We're so we really don't have close neighbors anyway. Yeah, so I've never heard of anyone other than the people that were at the library that we're talking about. And one was a police officer. No, she was a bailiff, but she was in full uniform and she had an experience right around here. Oh wow, it's just it's obvious. Well, and then you kind of there are a couple houses that have, you know, the black cutout, and I see a lot of bigfoot stickers on trucks and cars, and it's like, you don't do that unless you really believe or have had an experience. Now I can't say that for sure, but I just I think a lot of people have experienced something.

36:08 There's no way it's it's only you guys on that stretch of river. It's it's just wild. It's a really cool it's a really cool area. Now you have like really interesting things happening happening on your property outside nothing nothing weird that's happening inside the house, the ordinary, just outside in the woods. Right. Yeah, Yeah, that's good. I mean, yeah, it kind of a bit more on the just the spiritual side, you know, positively positive spiritual spiritual things. But no, we've never had anything like it's come up to the house. I don't think you know, no, nothing slamming on the house, knocking on the house. Yeah. Now in the video I had sent you where you can hear could you hear the tree knock?

37:05 Yeah? So because you had said pay attention after I say this certain sentence, I cranked it up a little bit. You can hear it in the background, yeah, which I thought was great that your microphone actually picked it up. Oh, and that's what both Grace and I think that. You know, you get to questioning yourself and then I think, oh, did I really hear the tree knocks? Now I'm hearing it. You know, you look it up and you hear it online and I got that, so I know, yep, I sure did. But when I was back there, the whole thing about the walnuts coming down is at the time I thought they were getting thrown at me, but it could very well be it was fall so it could have been just falling out of the trees. But at least I got that knock.

37:56 Has there ever been anything out of the ordinary that you found around your house, like it was left or just something that did not make sense for it to be there? Nothing, No, and I even, yeah, when we saw those tree structures. I took a twinkie back there one time, an apple to do gifting, and nothing happened. Of course, they didn't keep doing it for months or anything. Gotcha. So no like random deer legs left on different parts of the property. Okay, good, Are there a lot of deer on your property? Though?

38:38 Yes, okay, we have a lot and a lot of turkey. We don't have any farm animals. We used to have two goats years ago, three goats, but nothing ever happened to them. But that was years before even Grace had her experience. Yeah, and and nothing, I think, nothing that would no like weird communication things.

39:19 Ever, no other than my brother felt that's true when he went back to those, yeah, those structures, and he he is probably the most educated person I know, And yeah, he just said, it's saying get out, get out now. And he just turned and I just sort of felt like, that's just weird that I've never felt it. But then again, you know, it does seem like men could be a little more intimidating, not intimidating, Nothing could intimidate them. But it's do you know, territorial. Maybe I don't know.

40:02 No, I think that's an interesting thing because you do hear more than a few times where it's like the males will be messed with. Yeah, yeah, which is really interesting. Great for you because you know, I don't have to worry about that, but uh, it's great. And I think that's that's why Grace had more than me. You know, she had more of a direct sighting as a younger person and female. Yeah. So, and it was always girls back there, Yeah, except for my son and his friend. But they didn't seem to be threatened. I mean they never said anything happen. I think they just saw something there scared the the gbs out of them.

40:54 Is there anything else that is reported weird about this part of Ohio besides bigfoot things. It's maybe like folklore wise or anything like that. Oh, I'm so glad you've said that. Geez, I was gonna had it on my list. There is a there's a folklore that said that there were giants here and that there were yeah, a grave of two or three giants that was found. Now the bones aren't there anymore, and it's just one of those things like, oh, the early settlers of our little village had found them, and so it's in the folklore. Well that's kind of odd too, you know.

41:44 Yeah, that's that's awesome. That is really cool. How far back is I was that like eighteen hundred eighteen? Yeah, eighteen sixteen is when our village was platted out, and so it would have been very early on when they were building. It was when they were making the cemetery, and it was on the back side of the cemetery, right along the ridge going down to the river that was is the exact same one that comes through our farm. It winds around. Wow. Really, And so they said they saw it in the in the you know, in the stratigraphy, kind of like it wasn't they weren't dug up. They found them on the edge.

42:29 Can you break down what that word means for those that might not be familiar with it. Oh, stratigraphy. Yeah, yeah, it's just on the on the the outer edge of you know, the dirt, where the dirt has come away, and they saw the bone sticking out of that. Oh no way. Well, the stratigraphy is just like layers of dirt. Yeah. And and of course I am interested in our local history, so I've tried to find out anything I could, and I thought, you know, there's some scholars that do talk about a giant race that seems very plausible. But to me, wow, kind of would be this too.

43:13 Yeah, No, that's it's so weird, especially since you're saying it's it's the same river. Yep. Was it written down? What happened to the bones? Was it a thing where like they got shipped off to the Smithsonian or we just might not know? No, I think it was so long ago they probably you know, probably in the eighteen twenties, oh true, and so they would have just written it down, and it's just in the folklore, yeah, our of our village. I just find that very interesting. And it wasn't just one, it was like two or three. I'm pretty sure. That is so cool and it's a really it's a really fun connection. I don't know if I think I might have mentioned this once or twice, but we have a situation like that out here in Iowa, which is similar where there's the des Moines River that you know, flows from let's say north west of Des Moines that goes down to southeast Iowa, and there's down there in the southeast there's Van Buren County, which is very, very active with Bigfoot and dog man over the years. But I had an individual reach out to me that just north of that, along the river around Dowds, Iowa, in the forties, they would be all these sightings of giant giants, actual giants, and they would actually call them the Yehudies.

44:40 This older gentleman reached out to me and said, yeah, my grand my grandparents in the forties, they they would have all these giants seen around the river. And man, it almost makes you wonder if there's some kind of connection there, you know, between. Oh, absolutely, absolutely, it's interesting. And then if you think about in the eighteen twenties, this area was just all I mean, it was frontier, so it was all wooded, so it would make sense. That's awesome, man. Interesting And for things you've experienced, how long ago would you say the last thing you experienced that would have been something probably related to Bigfoot on the property.

45:36 I mean, I know that my last one was twenty twenty three. I want to say, like November of twenty twenty three, hit something down for twenty twenty four, but I think that's when I went back there and all the three structures were gone. Yeah, so I don't know. Interested Oh wait a minute something, Yeah, I don't know. I mean, this is I almost hesitate to bring this up. But in autumn of twenty twenty four, I was outside with the dogs and I thought my husband, my husband was in the field. You know, these are farm fields, and I thought his tractor had broken down because I saw a light back there and I thought, oh, huh, he's walking around and then he comes driving up. It wasn't him, and it was somebody that had a flashlight.

46:41 It was the weirdest thing I've ever seen in my life, just slowly going along the river, but not in the river. I don't know. And then my husband teases me, said maybe it was bigfoot, like, well, yeah, it'd be great if it was, but I don't. I have no idea. You know, it is one of those subjects where you know, it can, you know, to some people be funny or creepy, but you know, at the end of the day, it is a thing where a lot of witnesses, like if they have big foot activity, you know, they may also report, well we've been seeing these like these or light orbs and things, so that might be a thing to be aware of as well. Who knows.

47:25 Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah. And and then he went back there in the tractor and you know, shine these huge like halogen lights into the woods and I heard him yell, hey, there's somebody back there, but it wasn't. He just thought he was yelling, So there's he didn't see anybody. So it was just weird. And I don't he hasn't had any experiences on the property, has he. No. He just said at one point he heard a soundback there that he had never heard before. Oh that's right, yeah, gotcha. Okay, so see, but he's usually in its factor, and you know, and he wants he wants to believe he's just never experienced anything.

48:21 I got it. Yeah, himself like that, I got you, I got you. Well we'll see what happens with that. Yeah, but that's that's very interesting. But yeah, I mean, you never know. Yeah, And I should also say, you know, we've been living here for twenty five years, so we've been here a long time, so we know the sounds, we know all of that, and it's just these few times that stand out. So it's not like, oh, we moved in last month and we're trying to make something of it. You know, we've been here a long time, so we know what's here and what sounds are. Oh yeah, absolutely, you're very very familiar with the land that you live on, especially and after living there for so long.

49:08 But yes, and me walking it all the time. Absolutely absolutely, Judy and Grace, I just want to say thank you for coming on to share what you guys are experiencing on your property. Kind of sounds like there could be you know this, it's probably not just going to go away. There'll probably be other stuff too, But I just want to make sure you were able to, you know, go through everything that you had set aside on your notes. I think we have and we just appreciate being able to share our experiences. Thank you so much. Oh absolutely yeah, And definitely keep me in mind if anything else happens on your property. I'd love to hear about.

49:52 You can always you send me an email or anything. And if you ever are able to hear anything from your neighbors, I'd be interested in that as well. But oh yeah, absolutely, yes, we definitely will. And I'm a big fan of your podcast. It's my favorite one. So thank you, absolutely, thank you to all you have on awesome, awesome, It's been great, great talking to you and thanks so much for coming on guys. Okay, thanks so much. Jill just wanted to take a minute to say thank you for listening to this episode of The Big Society podcast. Judy and Grace's story is one of those rare encounters that gives you chills, not just because of what they saw, but because of how close it all came to home.

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