Oregon Family Shares Sasquatch Sightings

0:00 I was just staring out the window and I seen it running on the side of the mountain behind Jasper Mill and I watched it for ten seconds, and I didn't say anything because I was trying to compute what I was seeing while she was trying to compute what she was seeing. I was dodging cars that were stopping on the road and getting out and looking up at the hill at what she was looking at. It was tall and it was slender. It was like a marathon runner on flat ground, but it was on the side of the mountain. Either you're listening to the Big Society podcast and I'm Jeremiah Viron. Every week I talk to individuals who have experienced Sasquatch in some way or another, so you won't want to miss an episode. Make sure you're subscribed on the platform that you're listening to, and share this episode where the friend does not cost a thing and it helps the show continuing to grow.

1:15 If you'd like to hear Bigfoot Society episodes early in ad free, you can do so by becoming a Patreon supporter or YouTube channel member. Links to those are in the show notes in Bigfoot Society, I've taken far too much of your time so far, so let's get on with the show, all right, Bank Society, you got the privilege of talking to mister Ronnie Roseman again out there in Oakridge, Oregon, and this time we've got his daughter Priscilla Davidson and also her husband Steve Davidson along for the ride. They're both all on the phone right now. How's it going, guys? Ready to get great? Awesome? First off, I want to ask Ronnie right off the bat, Ronnie, last time we talked about some pretty wild stuff that happened to you out there in Oakridge over the years. Has anything interesting happened to Bigfoot Whise since we last talked? Yeah? That was in April, wasn't it. There was a two year disconnect between me and any activities with these things, right because of the winners. There were hard winners, and then there were fires for two years and the near proximity so you couldn't get back in all the smoke and activity and stuff. They probably left the area and I didn't know if they'd become a back. I went up there a few times, put up food stuff, no signs of anything. And I went

2:46 up there on my birthday in June and the last time on the show I was talking about my gifting tree or whatever where I built up a trust with him playing guitar and singing, taking the food in and right behind that tree, which probably three four hundred feet back in the little meadow, and there was bigfoot tracks all over everywhere for about one hundred square feet, the familiar tracks, the old man, the twenty three inch tracks back. My son in law and daughters seen him. We were together. I took him up there and showed him, and the big guy is the only one they had the toes that went in that showed distinctive five toes. The other ones who were were just on the surface but no toe definition anyway, the big guy left toe definition. That's when I really counted. So the sizes of all the tracks, there were several different sizes. What I presumed to be the old lady was about it was fifteen inches almost nine inches at the ball, seven inches at the hill, the old man twenty three inches in lengths a little over nine inches at the ball, seven inches at the hill. And then the ones that might be young adults or juveniles or something with about twelve inch tracks or whatever they were present. The whole family was there, and that's the ones that I had gotten acquainted with probably two years before. I

4:21 tried to re establish doing that and nothing. I put the food up, a bear got ahold of it one time, and other critters and stuff for a while, not them, but they let us know they were there. I went back up there with Dwayne, and because I told them all this, I wanted to be showing the tracks back in there, and I've never seen tracks like that. You only see a few, maybe a series if you're lucky, but I've never seen them do that and leave tracks all over everywhere. They just left them everywhere, lots of and I don't know why they did that, still working on that, but maybe they wanted me to know they were there. I don't know. Maybe they missed my singing or my food. I don't know about anyway. So I checked away up there, and he still has d PTSD from the experiences we had up there previously before I gained their trust, and so he didn't want to go back in there look at the tracks. It was too far back in because he still even though he taught me that area for over fifty years, and he's not a pretty any type of animal. I told you, I think that he's been charged by grizzlies twice and they didn't bother him. But he's still I don't think he's afraid of anything sat these things. He has a very deep respect for Bigfoot. I took him up there, and he wanted to stay on the road. Well, I went back in and did my thing and

5:53 took my turn stuff. Before I went back in, he was going to stay there. I've only heard the sound three times. Once was in ninety nine and the sisky use, and then twice up here that the air raid types sound. You know that one? Are you there? Yes? So? Oh you heard that one? Yeah, I don't want you running out on me. I'm so. I think I told you this last time. When I don't hear somebody coming back, I think they probably hung up and took off for something exactly. I'm not used to getting as much attention. So anyway that come out, that's the one that sounds like an air raid siren and goes on for the slingsy, And that's the one that if it's close enough. This one sounded like it was at a pretty good distance, but I'm sure it was for us. But if you hear that close up, which I have it, that's the one that makes your hair stand up.

6:54 But anyway, so we heard that, and then I went back and did my thing, and then when I come back, nothing happened with me. While I was back in there singing, and I stayed a a while, got a half an hour at least. But I got back out and Dwayne said that, well, he was standing there. Here's something that was in the woods, not far somewhere in there. He didn't know exactly what it was, couldn't tell, but right on, right after you heard something on that side behind him. He's standing on the access road. Behind him, I heard, he said, sounded like rocks getting together, and that's a typical sign, right, So I think that they were watching him, and they weren't worried about me. I think they knew what I was doing, but I haven't really. I'm trying to get my nerve backed up.

7:41 It's almost like starting over, and I've been up there with people. I've been up there two or three times by myself, and which was unnerving. But I think that maybe for me to I just now got a car thanks to the kids here, so I can start going back up. I haven't been able to go up there because of bad car problems, but I can start going back up there now. It's not too much snore roads to best up, but I can start going back. But I think what I need to do is what I did from the first time. I need to go by myself, because they made it evident that two times. I think I can explain this the last time, but two times I took somebody up there, they got intimidating. One time really heavy intimidating because I brought somebody with sure, so they don't Yeah, they want one person and I'm the one that got the trust, and I'm the only one. I think that I'm going to reconnect here with them. I've just got to steal up and go back in there by myself, and that's what I'm going to have to do.

8:48 But now I got a chance to do them, I'm going to start doing that and see if I can be established the relationship I had before. It was great because I go up there, and as soon as I did it once they left in NAFPL there, I think it was for me. But when I established that trust they were there, it was great to sit there once you're there there, just going up every time. But once you're there and they're whooping, well, I pitched sounds continuously as long as I stayed there. They kept whooping from the area that I would guess was the area where they left these tracks this time, but they're whooping and stuff.

9:28 I want to get back into that if I can't. Do you have any type of sound recorder? Have you ever considered bringing a sound recorder up there with you? I consider it and then I forget about it, and it just I just ended up not I believe it or not, and that a lot of people probably wouldn't believe this. But I never been out or into this to prove it to anybody. I don't care, and I just don't. Even if I seen one, I would tell it. But I used to, Thank God, maybe I wouldn't even tell anybody. I really don't care about impressing anybody or getting in the line line with it. But of course now it's different. We've got some activities going on. I'm writing a book, my daughter as a festival, big festival coming up next year.

10:15 Right, tell me about your I didn't know you were starting to write a book. Can you tell me about that. It's Oh yeah, I'd like to clear this up because I've had the title for this book for at least fifteen years. I think Todd needs if he remembers, because I remember telling about the book from the title about fifteen to twenty years ago, and it's called Bigfoot and Beyond. And since then, as you probably know, Cliff Berckman has got a radio show by the same name. YEP. I think I could use this name no matter what, even if I change had to change one word or something. But I got a message, my daughter got a message to him that about it. I was concerned about it, and he said, he said he thanked me for at least considering him before I did put a book out with that top. I just would like to clear that up that I'm id like to be original and I want to use that name my plan and I'm using that name. But I just don't want anybody to think I'm not that I'm copying up somebody else for a title. That's all. But anyway, the book, it's actually two books in one Bigfoot.

11:24 That's of course about big books and all. The book is mostly about my own experiences. It's not about other reports and stuff. I have a few reports in their interviews I've done with people, but for the most part is my experiences in my life with the weird and the unusual and stuff. So the first book is Bigfoot, and then Beyond is a lot of crazy sounding stuff or experiences that I had from ghostly activity, flying saucers, and too much. I don't want to get too I feel funny. I s why I've never printed this because it's book, because it's it's just too much.

12:07 It sounds crazy. If you take one phenomena, that's one thing. But if you take a dozen or more experiences with separate categories of unusual phenomena, it starts sounding you get a lose screw. That's why I never wanted to do it. But I'm going to do it anyway. I don't care. I'm getting older and probably only a year or two before they can mock me anyway. Oh right, you gotta do it. That's going to be a fantastic book. I'm excited to read it once you release it, for sure. Yeah. It's got my uh my involvement, and I spend a lot of time in Southwest Arkansas. Doock monster. I've got a lot of stuff on that and my relationship that I had with Smoky Crabtree and then the Honey on the swat monster. I've done some pretty good research I think on that, and I personally I know that mainstream bigfooters they don't get much credibility or any two three toed type of bipeds, so that it's interesting. I've had a few arguments and checks off a few scientists, some of them are friends with me out there with One of my biggest screen of matches was with Richard Greenwell of the International Society of tipt Asology. Were coming out of the swamp areas there and Honey Island swamp. But I Louisiana, and I thought we we did some good interviews, got a lot of good information at the

13:41 family. There was no reason to think that anybody was taking anything be course being scientific minded. It's one of the biggest yelling matches we've had and a lot of years of being together. In fact, we only had two and that was one of them. Over that because primates do have three toes. Any scientis that I got enough on it, I think that it should it brings it up at the table. Yes, that there's credibility. They do exist. So I got a lot of stuff on that, and then the weird stuff I'm not shared with. I don't know how much time. I don't want to take too much time to pluck these guys out. God, there's so much stuff in there. It's unbelievable. I actually saw the silver Chord, and that's the chord that I didn't know anything about it. I didn't know that anybody seen this or there was a history on it at its time. It was in nineteen seventy two. I've seen the chord that goes out from your abam and or your center around your heart or whatever, and it goes off into another dimension. I've seen that and without knowing what it was. That's an interesting story on that. And I've had voices, which is indicative of mental illness worse, but I've had voices tell me things that were going to happen in the future. Even told me once that I whispered in my right ear that I was going to meet George Harrison, which I did about six weeks later. I was witnessed by my wife. By the

15:13 way, another one that was witnessed with a voice thing was that I had a brother, and nobody in the family knew about it, and that's the story. Ended up having a brother. Nobody knew about my dad except my dad. Nobody ever said anything, and there was reasons for that beyond his control. And he ended up being the pall bearer first Dad. He'd been looking for forty years, but the voice told me about him a year before anybody knew about him, including me. And they saved my butt from the sheriff's department that was coming to get me one time because I called the police and myself called the dischirt attorney's office accidentally and I was in another state and they got a warrant and then coming there for me, and the voice told me go now, And I only got about a block, two blocks maybe at the most. They have sharriffs are on their way and their eye me over two big, burly, ugly looking shaffs deputies. I have nothing against law enforcement. I love law enforcements. Arms are good guys. But yeah, they were on the way to get me. If I'd have waited five or seconds, ten seconds, I would have been in the whoscal So they made me there. Yeah, true, And there's several other incidences too.

16:30 Where they help me. But I yeah, I could talk about the book here for a long time, so that will give you a little bit of an introductor. It actually gets crazier and that I love talking to you so much. So if listeners are like, why aren't you talking to Ronnie forever? Because I have talked to Ronnie, guys, there's another episode that you have to listen to with me and Ronnie and it will just rock your face off. So I'm going to have that in show notes. But I do also I am going to talk to Priscilla and Steve tonight. We got this is a three ring circus for sure. Yeah, so I want to send you some stuff later on, some inserts or maybe a chapter or something or whatever you book think. But all these experiences I've had, I've been close up and personal. Three spaceships I've seen. Two of the classics were the classic saucers or was it in a daytime? Up close, I could see every little mark on it and metallic saucer daytime. The second one was nighttime, in the middle of the night in my right, which is not into any of this stuff, we had a flying saus to come in directly overhead and stopped and it was silent the whole time and put a light and so there's stuff like that, and it just sounds too much for one person to have all these experiences. But yeah, let's touch on that later on.

17:56 Right now, I mix all this stuff. This is Bigfoot. That's bad enough. Right, So over that, let me lead into this story with yes, sir, yes, sir. About two weeks before Steven's siding what she'll tell you about. But he told me because I was talking about the butt and this is like the ten to fifteen years ago whatever it was. It was two thousand and eight, two thousand and eight, and he said that I'll probably see big before you do. And within two weeks he did, and they said he did. I didn't believe my daughter. She turned. It was eight thirty in the morning, and she hollered out from revenge, said dad, Steve Jessine Bigfoot. She was on the phone with him, and I said, yeah, telling him that, I said hello, and she said, he said you would say that. So anyway, here you go, you guys, you want to tell him about the story.

18:57 Yeah, where does he go? First? In that conversation, I told him that Bigfoot's not crazy? He's crazy any rate. The j let me just said, I know the exact word. I said, all this time, I've been telling you. I said, Now they're there, aren't that? He said, Yeah, It just because Bigfoot exists doesn't mean still doesn't mean you're not crazy. That's what all right? Yeah. In November of two thousand and eight, I was in the nighttime academy for Reserve Police, and I was working a day job driving a dump truck for a logging outfit up in on Alaska, Washington, and my sighting was like so many.

19:41 I was driving down this road like I had done a hundred times, and all of a sudden, there it was, and just as fast as it was there, it was gone. It was really just a flash, and I would have almost thought that my eyes were playing tricks on me, except that I had a CB in the jump truck, and I could hear two hunters that I didn't know. I was getting reception on my CB from their handheld walkie talkies or whatever they were talking on, and one of them says to the other one, did you just see what I just saw? And the other guy says, calls back and says, I think I just saw Bigfoot and he goes and then the other guy says, I think I did too, And I'm like, oh, man, I did see it.

20:25 I get a hold of my wife and I go I told her what happened. I'm like, I can't be Ronnie Roseman's son in law and see Bigfoot. They're gonna think it runs in the family. Whether that's really just the gist of that story. And it was just for a second, I really couldn't make out any features. It was backlit. I saw a silhouette. It was incredibly fast. Yeah, there's no way, there's no way. It was definitely not a man in a suit. No human being moves that fast, and where it was at would not be where you would try to prank somebody. And then am I leaving anything out? Yeah, I'm a terrible He's gonna tell hey, Steve, I'm gonna ask you some questions real quick before we let Ronnie jump in. So this is a really unique story because I've never heard one where the main thing that made you think you saw Bigfoot was hearing people through your radio walkie talking like that's incredible. Was there anything from the blur that you saw that made you think outside of that, Hey, this is probably bigfoot what I'm seeing, or is it just all really blurred together. No, it was absolutely startling, Absolutely a silhouette.

21:47 And I was just scanning, and I looked past it and then immediately looked back where I had just seen it. It was It's very startling. And then it was, you know, a few seconds later when I heard the CB transmission, So I thought, did I just really see that? And then I heard the radio transmission, which let me know that, yeah, I did. I wasn't the only one that saw it, didn't you say that you felt like pray? It felt a lot like being in the presence of an African lion. It was that startling if you're just trapesing along here and we're in Oregon now, but if you would have just been walking around in the woods where you live and all of a sudden, there's a lion there. I thought, maybe I don't know what they eat, might be on the menu. This was in on Alaska, Washington. It's about halfway up the state okay of Washington, probably terrible with mileage within fifty miles of I five through Washington's You saw the silhouette of it, did you remember any specific details about the silhouette, noticing any certain part of it look out of the ordinary or anything with that. Yeah, it looked really skinny to me.

23:02 It didn't look as it wasn't the big like Patterson film type of creature is very skinny my initial at the time, I don't know, but like when I picture it in my head right now, it's very a rangutang. I get that a lot. What were the certain things that made you choose that word rang a tang? Like its arm seemed skinny, and I could tell where the forearm and the biceps started. Kind of think like when you look at a ranguting, their joints are very I guess then compared to the rest of their limb. It had that type of feature to it. Did you notice anything weird or the ordinary about the way that the animal was or the let's say creature was moving other than the speed. No, okay, so it's extremely fast, is what you're saying. Yeah, okay. Were you able to notice anything about the head shape of the creature at all?

24:02 That seemed very like almost no neck, very it's a blur. I don't remember it having a neck. It seemed like the general shape of what you would think the drawings and stuff that I've seen of Sasquatches, some of the pictures and stuff are similar with S Guinea. Very interesting. So it sounds like the whole thing happened in probably just a few seconds. Oh yeah, yeah it was. When I say it was fast, I didn't see the gate of its walk or run or anything. It was. I don't know if you've ever seen trying to think of a really fast animal when it gets scared and bolts, and it's just almost like it's just shot out of a slingshot, just gone. You see it, You see its initial where it moves, and then it's just gone. And I don't where it was at.

24:55 I doubt I would be able to walk through there. Well, certainly I wouldn't be able to run. Interesting. So at this point, if anyone else has anything detail wise to throw in, would the story go right ahead? I'm right in all right, this is the rest of the story, Okay, from what I remember now, that was at a thirty in the morning when he called it in to Priscilla to tell her, and which I didn't believe it because he'd already said to Is before he was going to see one before me, which he did. But from what I remember, he came in at around five thirty or so after work, and he had two bottles of rum, and he's never done that before, and he had a very concerned look on his face. And I knew right away something he had seen something, and he says, let's talk about Bigfoot. We talked about big for about three hours. He told me that he was going in the woods with his dun truck and to dump the debris of his truck.

26:03 He was returning an empty load and at eight thirty, around eight thirty in the morning, in between two trees, the sun was coming up in the back, so he had like he said, he'd see the silhouette of it standing there for the morning light behind. And he said, it standing there, and he says, just glaring at him. He said, he looked once, looked back. He figured somebody with a helmet on a hard hat. And he looked back and he knew it wasn't a person. They weren't supposed to be back in there anyway. And he said that it looked like it was staring right through me. And I asked him, I said, did you get out and look for tracks? Or anything after he had told me because you looked back again or when he heard the radio or I don't know if it was before or after the radio thing, but he said he looked, and he said that's when he's seen it move from where it was standing like a gray streak. It was very extremely fast, and I asked him, I said, did you get out and look around for tracks or something? He says no. He said that windows up and the doors locked, and I was getting out of there, and he says, you know me. He said, if it had been a beer, I'd went over and looked for tracks, but he said, not this. I said, you felt like your life was threatened? And said yes, he felt like his life could be in danger. So it was intense to him. And then he drove on out. But I yeah, very believable, and he was only about sixty feet. I think from it he got to see the

27:33 whole outline and stuff. And I remember him telling me because I had a poster of a composite drawing based on lind Crabs trees exciting when he was thirteen years old at the falk Monster. And it's a lot slimmer than the bulky bigfoot tight and I remember Steve saying, did it resembled that poster more than it did the Patterson creature? Sped all I got to say with it, Wow, did Steve you agree with everything? Ronnie just said there, Yeah, that so accurate, I said. He sometimes he embellishes and likes to say that I was shaking and scared and that I was not. I and I'm glad he didn't do it. I was, yeah, you did it.

28:18 I was like, man guy, a man cot funny. So I when I said I seen him shake and when he had the two bottles around when he came in the door. He didn't appreciate that before, so I wasn't gonna say that, but I'm glad he did. Okay, you guys are great. You guys are great. Thank you Ronnie for filling in the extra details there. I appreciate that anytime. We actually had a better sighting that I didn't see. Me and Priscilla were together when she saw one. And there's a funny circumstance. So it was about five years ago and we were heading to Springfield from oak Ridge, and we were on the Jasper Road, and when we got to the Jasper Mill, I was just staring at the window, and I seen it running on the side of the mountain behind Jasper Mill and I watched it for ten seconds, and I didn't say anything because I was trying to compute what I was seeing. Well, she was trying to compute what she was seeing. I was dodging cars that were stopping on the road and getting out and looking up at the hill. At what she was looking at. It was tall and it was slender. It was like a marathon runner on flat ground, but it was on the side of the mountain, and it was pure black and it had short hair. I

29:48 know it had short hair. It was like a Doberman's coat, but it was tall and skinny. It wasn't traditional big sasquatch. And then like after ten seconds of watching this, and then we go around the corner and I'm like, I tell Steve, I'm like, I think I just saw big But first I said, I'd like to thank you for saying something while it was there, And so she didn't even point it out to me. But like I said, I had been dodging. There was cars. All the cars in front of us were stopping and people were getting out and looking up at the hillside. But the backstory of that is the whole backside of that of the hills there was all on fire, and it was all with fire crews back there, which would give reason why it would choose a pass around people because it couldn't be where it would normally be. And I felt terrible for not telling him as I watched it for that long, but I was honestly, like I think when shocked, like just trying to figure out what I'm looking at. And then afterwards you were like, no, it had to be a person like in a black spandex bodysuit or something. I must have seen it wrong. And we tried to climb up there to where she saw it running. So I told my dad and he got a hold of Todd knees and todd niece came down and we went up. So yeah, we hiked up to where I saw this thing. We almost lost Ronnie that day. He started sliding down the mountain and he grabbed onto a hornet's nest

31:21 to keep himself from falling off. That was the first indication that my son in law I might really care about when it comes down to it, because you come over and grabbed me before I went over the edge and pulled me up. That was pretty nice instinct. But it was such rough terrain you could hardly stand there. Certainly nobody could run there. Yeah, let me add to that. We got up there on the level of ground before the grade, before it went up, where the thing had crossed from one tree line to another going up the grade at what angle would that be? Forty five degree? Yea when it was running up in between the tree lines. But on the level ground you had to watch where you walk because there were pot marks all over. Every two inches or six inch or eight inches or foot there was pot marks, and with grass dry, grass brown, it's just there's no way to run there. On the level ground you would have without springing an ankle or possibly breaking an ankle, So you would not do that well. And the hillside is so steep yet every two steps you lose a step. Not only that there's steep hillside, but the pock marks were all over the hillside on top of it. You couldn't run on level ground like that, much less uphill with those pot marks without springing an ankle.

32:44 Todd's thoughts on it, He thought it was I'm sincere in that it was. I describe what I see and there was no way TODs of it. There's no way that person be up there. It was so rock and rath. Not only that, when we were getting close to the area, it was already it was dusk when we started out. By the time Todd got the here, when it was straight up and it was coming down in dark, we had to wait to hike back out too, and so we didn't go right to where the thing had crossed to look it over. It was getting dark. We decided to go back, so didn't get to the exact area. We hadn't reached it yet, but we were close to it.

33:28 Those pot marks were all over everywhere and where she had seen it. Yeah, that's incredible. Did you were able to ever get to that part where the creature was and look for evidence of footprints or broken branches, et cetera. It's mostly rock there. Yeah, we wouldn't. I don't think we'd be able to get a footprint. And the footprints that we made were when you did encounter dirt, you were slight, so I don't. I just never went that. We just dropped it at that, but we just didn't failed up to we did have a sighting here in Oakridge by a reserve officer.

34:12 You want to talk about that? Oh yeah, you should talk about real Sorry, real quick, Steve. One more question about the previous one. When you were dodging people that were pulled over, was anyone taking pictures didn't notice? Okay, no problem. There was three cars pulled over at the bridge that or the train bridge that is right there past the Jasper Milk. There's three cars pulled over and there is probably what eight or ten people out of their cars looking over where I had just seen it. But it wasn't obvious at first. There was so much going on. There's this little right where this was happening. The road does like an s swerve and goes underneath a railroad trestle, and the cars that were stop. We're just on the east side of the railroad trestle, just before the road takes a sharp curve to go under it. And there was a giant vulture taking off from the guard rail, and there was a dead deer and I thought somebody hit a deer, is what I thought happened. I thought that's why everybody was stopped. And then it became obvious that that deer had not been hit recently, as indicated by the Vulture. There was a lot going on, and I didn't notice if anybody had a camera or not. All right, thank you, yeah, to go right ahead. Feel free to share what you can about the other siting you were referring to. I'm a retired Oakridge police officer and we had a reserve officer. It was with our department. He

35:43 comes. I was on a day off and he comes over to my house and he says, he goes, hey, I need your help. And he looked something was really wrong, and I said, yeah, what's up? He says, I was cutting wood up on the nineteen twelve road, which the four service was just a dirt road, and he said, I all of a sudden, I had this overwhelming feeling that I was being watched because I turned around and there was a sasquatch down in there. And he looked so angry. He said, I dropped everything, jumped in my truck and left. I said, so, what do you need? He says, can we get some people and some guns and go up there and get my brand new chainsaw its sitting in the road. So we packed everybody up and we went up there. It was nighttime by this time, and we went up there to where he had been and there was this brand new Husky Varna chainsaw sitting in the road. Just like you said. He dropped everything and left, and it was dark. We didn't get an opportunity to look for footprints too much. We were looking in the headlights. And that funny thing is my daughter had come with us, and she had a how old was at the time. She was just talking two and a half and while we were looking for footprints, she was just babbling along talking two and a half year olds too, And all of a sudden she looks up the hindo and she says, monkey. Oh, she saw something she thinks is a monkey. So we don't know. We don't know if she saw anything or not. But I know that this guy we've I've known this guy a long

37:15 time. He's a police officer. He's not afraid of things, and something scared him enough that he left all of his tools up there and came straight down. There's no reason for your daughter to have said monkey, except for if she saw something that looked like a monkey. That's incredible. She's incredibly smart too, and her sighting means more to me than some adults. Is that the one that he said that the guy called in I left his equipment there and said that thing was you bank on about fifteen to twenty p Friman cocked his head. Yes, let me let me fill in and if you don't mind on that, let's go right. Yeah. I didn't know anything about it. It was late at night. I was sleeping. Nashley.

38:05 Late at night is like seven. That's all people. That's the same thing. But anyway, Steve came in, he was still on duty, and he says, we just checked out there's this bigfoot sighting or whatever, and thought I should get up and run out in the middle of the night or whatever start looking for big That's a different one. Oh, it's a different one. I thought it was different. Okay, Well, Steve has encountered a lot of reports being a police officer, and they don't we don't. We don't take a report on it because we only take We only took reports on things that we're going to go to the district attorney and there's no crime committed. If you see a big foot, we would I've worked for departments where we would have taken log notes about it. This is not one of those departments where we would take log notes about it. Okay, so no log notes. It's just whatever is in your memory. That's the only record.

38:59 Yeah. Wow. Oh so since I'm on it and I brought that other story in, I might as well finish that one. I thought it was when he said chainsaw and all that stuff. In fact, while I was listening, and I thought he was leaving me out on something because I didn't remember those details like that. But anyway, it's a different story, that's why. But the reason I thought it was is because this fellow who called in the police, he was so scared he actually called the police department and he left his chainsaw and everything too. But Steve came in about eleven o'clock at ninety in Transis. They just got a call in and a bigfoot sighting and water. And I thought, just tell me about it tomorrow, because I know, going out it'd be tough to find evidence and everything in the daytime, much less at night, and I don't even know where I'm going. But he took his patrol car, went out and showed me the direction to go looking and look for a big tree on the left and there's like only ten thousand big trees. But I so anyway, I did that to make him happy, running around for a little bit, and I came back and went to bed. But the guy had called in, and Steve was, I happened to you got to call a dispatch or something, didn't you. I vaguely remember this story. Okay, I'll try to remember.

40:16 I'm trying to fill it in, but I Steve got a call. He was on duty. Anyway, he was sent out or the guy was in town. He came in from the woods. He was cutting down trees. We had some type of storm, a lot of down trees. A lot of people were cutting was up or trees up, and it was this guy was by himself. It was around dusk. He had his pickup and his tools and he was just sawing away and he had a feeling something was up looking at him, like a bigfoot. That's why I thought there's the same story. But anyway, he said he looked, and he said there was nobody around right where he was working, and he thought maybe some guys up there. A lot of people do that because I think the mind just doesn't digest right away what you're looking at you're looking at something it's not supposed to be, so you always go to the first thing that sounds normally. So he thought it was a man. He looked at winch cutting, and then he looked back again and realized that what he was looking at it was standing there only fifteen feet from me, up a grade up and think a little bit about it. And it was standing there staring at him, and he covered with hair, and he's just staring at him. He said. He stood up, and he said he cocked his head, and he says, this thing did the same exact thing, like maybe mimicking him or mocking him, I don't know, but he said it cocked his head just like he did, staring at him. And that was it that put the fear of

41:49 God in here with Jesus sitting in there. And he said he'd jumped in the pickup, left all his tools and everything, and try tailed it out of there and was dart by the time he got out what he called the And so Steve Manning talked to him, and the next night Steve had him over at the house and he brought two kids with him and we talked about big for a few hours. And he that he made it clear that he did he wanted to remain anonymous. So many in this town and so many reports I've got here, people do not want it out. They have to live here, they have the business and all of that, and so we got to hear the story person. And I've never seen him again, but he was an interesting story. He did not want publicity and he actually was so afraid he call the police. So I thought that was pretty impressive.

42:43 Priscilla, do you mind. I want to make sure that we are able to talk about the Sasquatch Summer Fest that's coming up next year. Yes, July four, Okay, we'll talk about. Yes. Speakers are the Todd niece and David Sheeley, he has the Skunky headquarters in Florida. And Christie Sanders, she used to do the information for BFRO and log alf the sightings and just all the data analysis. And Cliff Barrackman. I just got him booked from Finding big Foot, and I have Jill Remen Schnyder and Brett i can Bocher, the directors and producers of Flash of Beauty big Foot revealed.

43:35 So we're gonna have movies in the park. And they're gonna play both documentaries on Friday and also on Saturday, and people can stay the night in the park because I'm running out the whole park, Greenwaters Park and Oakridge organ and there's an amphitheater there. And then on Sunday, we're gonna have guest speakers on a panel so people can have questions and answers, and we're gonna have a beer garden and live music, and we're also going to have So I have this disc of Bigfoot sounds of what would you say, twenty different sounds.

44:15 Oh, yeah, so I'm going to I'm going to have that on the oak Ridge organ is known for the it's the mountain bike capital of the Pacific Northwest. Oh I didn't know that. That's cool. Yeah, So we'd have bike trails everywhere, and Greenwaters Park has a bike trail, and the city administrator is going to light up the bike trail and set it up to where we have the Bigfoot sounds, so people can go on a little it's like a half mile or maybe a quarter mile excursion to where they can hear the big Foot sounds and it'll be a lot of fun. What are the chances that the Sierra Sounds are going to bring something. And I'm serious, do you play the seris and stuff happens. So now that you say that the back of the park is La Duke Road, and La Duke Road has had so many big put sightings, Oh yes, yeah, so who knows what it's going to bring in. And I'm going to have personal testimonials of people's stories and experiences and their sightings, and so I'm gathering those stories and a lot of them are on the Duke Road, well, just on the back of the park. This is news to me. I didn't know she was going to be playing those sounds anywhere, but w playing it without me. I think I told you the last time I got me in trouble with these things, they were coming in our Campsit's on me and Dwayne.

45:46 But there was nothing threatening. They didn't do anything. Through few rocks in the morning when we got a dike out or something, but I hit some trees or whatever something like that. It was subtle. But when we had first had her bad experience that night, it was because I had I can't do it justice at all. But about the third sound in run More Heads tapes, I believe it is. It's right on with what I heard in the sisk Us in ninety nine next to my tent, so me and Duayne Ergomer sounds that he had heard in the forty years he'd been hunting this area, and I come up with that one that I was trying to immit our later well exactly, yeah, So I did that and it wasn't twenty minutes.

46:36 This group of freaking creatures which bigfoot, but I don't even like using that term chilly Disneyland, but that's what we got. But anyway, whole family and at least by we're hit it our way about them all away and getting louder and louder, letting us know they were coming. That's when we were tormented for over two hours with them right behind our tent, one of them almost paraging the tent, coming up quick and then going back. Went for two hours because of that sounds. I'm not going to be out there with any crazy host I know. No. I was thinking. I was like, there's no way Ronnie's going to be out there with the Sierra sounds. After what happens, Hey, I did any idea what we went through there, I guarantee you they wouldn't either. So if that little story that Ronnie shared sounds awesome, listen to the first Ronnie interview because that story takes about an hour to share and it's incredible. But Priscilla, back to the festival. You're going to be playing the Sierra Sounds the night before the second day. Are people going to be able to to tent camp in that same park? Yes, yes, they can have overnight camping. They can bring their own tent. It's twenty five dollars to stay in the park. And we're going to have campfire stories, live testimonials of people who have had their fightings here in Oakridge Little up anyway, and I have a whole group of testimonials of people who want to remain anonymous, and I'm like, I really

48:08 wish that they would tell her own story, but I guess that I'm going to have to tell it for him. Wow, that's awesome. Yeah, there's been so many sightings hereon Okra Oh, there's so many. We've been here ten years, and of course I got to get the word out. And the people they're pretty good art and not trying to be mean, but they sure get a laugh when they see me coming I get this stuff even from the neighbors and stuff. Hey, I've just seen a fourteen big foot the other day. Gotta let me know when you see that stuff, So I get out there and check it out exactly who has had his encounter with bigfoot. So I'm gonna I'm gonna have my husband complete this story because he's better explaining things and me, and he's a friend of ours, and he's a hunting guide and stuff. So they use here if there's a problem lion or a problem things like that. I mean, this guy, he really knows what he's doing. They the government contracts him to treat animals, what bear and mountain lions and stuff. But I'll let you finish his encounter with big when his dogs stopped dead in their tracks because they were scared. He's had two of those. There's one that he there's one that he told us right away where he was in an area up here. I'd give you road names and stuff, but that won't probably matter. The area is called that's black Cat or not black it's up there by the Yeah, I think I

49:40 think the area is called black Any he was, he there's this four service road where he runs his hound dogs, because when you're running a pack of hound dogs, a leash probably isn't a good idea because they'll drag you away. And his dogs are not afraid of anything, and that's what they that's what they do. They chase mountain lions and bears and stuff. And all of a sudden, his dogs stopped, and there was nighttime. The dogs stopped and wouldn't go any further. So he went up to see what they saw, because he thought maybe they were on a bear or something. But it was weird that they stopped, and he put his headlights off into the tree line where the dogs were barking and growling at and he says that he saw a sasquatch there and that it screamed at him. But the scream was, the way he describes it was in his head, and so I thought that was an interesting statement. So we looked into it, and it seems comparable to something that I've heard that lions do, where they use like a low frequency growl, where it's almost like the sound is happening in your head.

51:01 But I don't have any experience with that, and it's not my story, but he's definitely freaked out about it. In this area. We were there bear hunting, and I told him about this big bear that we had seen, and he's a guide for bear hunts, and he didn't care. He doesn't go there. Even if a client wants him to go there, he doesn't go there. And I thought that was pretty interesting, because that's putting your money where your mouth is. I might add on to that a little bit, all right. I knew this fella. I did, in fact, when the kids here got to knowing a little bit and through family and stuff or whoever. But I actually knew him at least a year before.

51:46 He's one of the several people that got me on the side and told me about some of his bigfoot experiences, which is great when you get a bit of a name into something like that. Of the people think it's ridiculous, or you're silly, or that they have fun with it. I was saying. But the good thing about that the people that had experiences that don't want to tell anybody that they really want to tell someone. They have somebody like me if they think they can trust me, and they tell me their stories, but they want to remain anonymous. This fellow was when I got to know earlier I did that. I heard about me and talking on the side and he's legit game guide and all of that. And he told me the areas he went into these big tracks all the time, and he said that he was afraid, but that's his job and he didn't want it out because he could lose his clients and stop if they think his business. That's one reason. He said, you've seen them all the time, or not not every day, but he's seen them regularly. Tracks in this God take people back in. And he said when he went in, he sometimes very believed a lot of times mentally he would say, I'm not here to bother you, I'm not here for you. He's leave me alone. And it worked for a long time until this time that I happened with Rod. Steve

53:16 said he called me at one time and before all of this getting together with the family and told me that he had seen tracks this one day and had little tracks with it. So that was interesting. But yeah, the guy is credible. I've been to his health. He's credited on hunts Or and himself. I think two hundred and sixty over two hundred and sixty Bear, I think it is. He's killed so he's experience hunter, professional hunter, and he's not a guy to make up stuff, and he does not want his name identify with us out there. So that's just one of many. But that's interesting. Okay, anybody else or I can continue. I know, Ronnie, you're the best man. I don't know how much I need that. You're a rocking dude. Priscilla. I'm serious when I say I looked at your event before, but hearing you talk about it like this is going to be deed and I'm going to get so many people mad. I don't care, but this is I'm going to say it's probably going to be the number one Bigfoot event of twenty twenty four, like the Sleeper event that people like they're going to not go to the first one and in future years they're going to be like I wish I had gone to the first one, but I didn't know about it. Like seriously, it's oh, it sounds incredible. And out there. I'm working on my my marketing. I just got my swag all done and my logos, and I'm in Lane County Events

54:49 and Eugene Cascades and Coast for Lane County in the Oregon and Cliff Brackman is going to be promoting it, and David Sheeley with out of four to all day alligated, Dave, you know where I'm at him. We can tell that stuff. But I've got incredible speakers, I've got great people, and I'm really hoping that it's a successful event. And the city administrator is so happy about this. I mean, he's helping me every way he can to help promote it. It's gonna be amazing. I'm excited that you guys are doing this and I can't wait see what happens. So with Greenwater's Park, it's it's gonna be like no other Bigfoot festival or convention because people can stay there for three days and camp in the park and be there one on one with the speakers and talk to them and see them. And it's not the private conference where you pay for dinner and then have the festival. It's like it's all in one. Yeah, that's the unique thing about Greenwater's Park said, we can have it all together. When she was trying to come up with how am I going to do this? I said, why don't you just throw the party that you want to be invited to? Absolutely, that's so cool man. Okay, Brian, Yes, tracked up here. All this stuff happening. Steve with his big foot second named my daughter, and

56:20 I haven't seen one yet. I've had him close enough to me you want to kill me and tear me apart or act like it, And I haven't seen one. Anyway, they've seen it. Not only that. I've always talked about the flying saucers, the ghost. I've got a whole history of that kind of stuff and the flying saucers and other things. Now they have the witness bigfoot thing. They that ghostly activity here. Steve and my my wife who's been gone for a couple of years now, they a ghost come down the hall way. He was walking nobody else in the house, went into my bedroom. They witnessed a lot of things like on the paranormal stuff there not too far back and said in law Stevir and one of his daughters and my grandkids Ashley, they were heading in East Oregon and seeing a flying saucer sitting there seeing the dome. Yeah, my granddaughter said that she thought that they had a mirror image to it and it just took it was vanishing gone, but they got a good look at it. The boat them, so they got to go stuff and everything. So it reminds me of something, and I haven't said anything about it, but I'm going to do it now. Fifteen twenty years ago, before anybody had witnessed any unusual activity, my son in law and thought, we're over visiting some people having dinner,

57:52 and they said you, he said, They asked something about me. The people did the friends he said, oh, he believes in Bigfoot or whatever. And the guy said, he said, I believe in the luck Ness Monster. He said, yeah, just believe in flying saucers. He said yeah, and he said and then he told Steve. He said, yeah, we got one of them too. But what do you think now? You're in the group. You're in the group of no return. I don't recall, now, why would you? I know there's a lot of things you don't. That's why. Hey, Ronnie, Ronnie, I got a question for you. Have you, and this is random, have you ever researched Bigfoot and render your Oregon? I don't do my research of anything.

58:40 I don't care any time. My own whatever in my heart leaves me in my directions. The one man, Yeah, have you ever been to Oregon? No? I haven't. Okay. We lived in long View and Ranier is right across the bridge, but I never went into the mountains to woodsir Okay, So never did you ever hear anything weird in the Did you ever hear of anything weird up in the woods in that area? I never was in it woods much lost my time in the bar there. Okay. I just want to are you talking about the city of Renier, Oregon or are you talking about mate mount this city of Neer, Oregon. Yeah, yeah, okay, we just lived across okay, coo cool. Just a random thing. There's some really wild stuff that has happened over the years in Renier, Oregon. So I asked about it every once in a while, but I heard I heard of some of them, yes, and very strange stuff.

59:39 Do you want to tell him about the story of when we were camping with all our babies Mount Saint Helens? Yeah, I don't bring that up. That is before the siding or long before. It was many years ago. We my wife and I of daughters. They're all grown and have kids now, but when they were little, we camped on the back side of Mount Saint Helen's really remote on this bluff that kind of overlooked scoop of meadows, and we didn't know anything about that at the time. We've sensed we've since looked into things and went, oh, okay, this is about twenty years ago now right, Oh, God is almost eighteen and he was only three years old. Yeah, yes, been so fifteen fifteen years ago.

1:00:36 I I won't question your math. That's not my that's not my d We were in our tent. We had we had gotten a very aggressive dog because of I was just new try getting into law enforcement, and yeah, we ended up with a pit bull and he was really aggressive. And we were camping and he was sleeping out by the fire and we had the kids in the back of We had a Chevy suburban and the kids were in the back of the suburban and me and my wife were in a tent. And this dog, if he saw any living creature, he was all over it. And he would chase a gear to the point where you'd wonder if you're ever going to see your dog again. He just never gave up the chase.

1:01:21 And we heard somebody running. It sounded like on two legs to me, somebody running down this trail that we were camped at like a dirt The dirt road that you had to four wheel your way to get to it went nowhere. Every we'd camped there for years, we'd never seen anybody back there. We are like on our own little cult to stack overlooking a canyon. And our road to get to our culture stack was like three miles in on a for service road on the backside of Mount Saint Helen. There was no traffic at all, but whatever if there was, we would hear it for five ye you'd hear it for a long wayst it was. We heard somebody running down this road and ran around our tent and it woke us up, and then it ran off and we were sitting there awake. My wife's asking, did you hear that? And I said, yeah. We sat there and I thought about it for a second and then but as when it was running on two legs, you can tell when something is on two legs. It was running down the road to our tent, and I said, who's out there? Because I was completely freaked out because I knew that our kids, they were all under the age of six, and we have five, and our pit bull is sitting on a couch by the fire a couch. We took the third seat out of the suburban set it next to the campfire,

1:02:52 and the dog was curled up on that h So I'm like, I asked to see if you heard that, and he said yeah. So I reluctantly said, who's out there? And it walked completely around our tent and then took off into the woods. And our piple did not do anything at all until about a minute later, which it came over and started sniffing. And that was our very first encounter. We went through all the We went through all the normal stuff, like nobody was out here running through the woods in the middle of the night without a flashlight, and any animal that would have come into our camp, our dog would have absolutely responded to it. He was he hated other animals. He was he had a very strong prey drive.

1:03:45 And also we were both adults and we could tell there was on two legs, and our initial thought was that it was a human. Later on we find out that Scuker Meadows is known for that. Yeah, we had no like, we were just trying to get away from people. Now I don't know what I missed. Oh and okay, so this is the craziest thing is we didn't look for tracks. The next morning, oh wow, getting out our tent. But but I was really excited to go home and tell my dad about what just happened. And then did you look for tracks?

1:04:27 And then I just felt completely stupid because it's like, I have no idea why we didn't look for tracks. It was there's a weird there's a weird thing. Because after that we in that area we had found tracks, and we were like, you find yourself doing the weirdest things. And the track came after that instant didn't. Yeah, but you find yourself doing the weirdest mental gymnastics. We'd be out hiking in a really remote area back there behind Mount Saint Helens, and you find footprint it's going up the side of from a trail, going up a very steep embankment, and you you'd measure them and you go, oh god, they're only nine inches or however big they are. It could be a person. And then you're like, there is nobody out here. Cross country hiking barefooted is happening, But you start doing these weird mental gymnastics even when you're looking for I can't say you me even when I'm looking for evidence. There's always that second guest. There no that could be a human, and there's no way that's a human, or if it is, we need to find them. Whind my dad for all of this. Their mom, her mom got up in the center after all the activity with you and Bigfoot and everything else, and she said, mit, team, he attracts all this stuff, right, so that ain't you can't get him. It sounds it sounds awesome to me for sure. Guys.

1:05:58 It has been amazing time talking to you and to be able to meet you Priscilla and Steve, and thank you so much for chatting with me tonight. It has been awesome. Everyone definitely needs to check out Sasquatch Summerfest dot com is the best place to get info, right Priscilla, Yes, absolutely, and I'm looking for vendors currently and it's gonna be phenomenal. Thank you so much for interviewing us. I'm going to stop recording, but I do have to tell you something Ronnie afterwards. Okay, yeah, okay, okay, hold on. Special thank you to Ronnie, Priscilla and Steve for coming on the show today. If you're wanting to go out to Sasquatch Summerfest.

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