Nov. 4, 2025

Oregon Fires Are Making Bigfoot Uncontrollable!

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Season 1

In this chilling episode of Bigfoot Society, host Jeremiah Byron sits down with Eric, a lifelong outdoorsman from the edges of Oregon’s Willamette National Forest, to recount a series of extraordinary encounters that have redefined his understanding of the wilderness.



From eerie midnight whistles echoing through narrow canyons to unseen forces toppling massive Douglas Firs, Eric’s stories unfold like a slow-burning campfire mystery — rich with detail, awe, and a hint of fear. Listeners will follow his journey from quiet camping trips with his wife to full-blown encounters marked by strange communication, overwhelming odors, and the unmistakable sense of being watched in the deep woods.



Along the way, Jeremiah and Eric explore the possibility that these moments weren’t coincidences at all — and that something ancient and intelligent still roams the Pacific Northwest.



Whether you’re a skeptic, a believer, or just fascinated by the unknown, this episode will make you think twice before dismissing what might be just beyond the tree line.



Featuring:


  • Whistles and rock-turning in the night

  • A mysterious light-moving visitor

  • Growls, stolen steaks, and tree-toppling power

  • Real audio from the encounters

  • Firsthand insight from a man living in Bigfoot country

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You're listening to BIGFA Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, pick the Society. You've

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got the privilege of talking to Eric today. Eric is

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an outdoorsman from just outside the Willamette National Forest, in

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an area that's between sisters in Eugene. I had the

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pleasure of meeting Eric at the first Sasquatch Summer Fest

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in Oakridge, Oregon, July of twenty twenty four, just for

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future listeners, and we had a good chat. Then we've

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been keeping in touch over the last year or so

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and there's been some really interesting things that been happening

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to Eric up where he's at. Welcome to the show, Eric,

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how are you doing today, sir.

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I'm doing great, Jeremiah. Thanks for thanks for having me

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and good to talk to you again.

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Absolutely, it's a thing where I remember when I was

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talking to you down there in Oakridge, and I was like, man,

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someday we're going to have a We got to have

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a chat with Eric on the show, and I'm glad

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that it finally happened. But we definitely have a bit

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of ground to cover today. Feel free to take us

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back to when you first started experiencing Bigfoot related interactions.

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A little bit of history. Raised my kids here in

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the Northwest. I'm an older gentleman now, but the wife

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introduced me to camping. We met in high school and

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that was my first opportunity to ever camp in the Northwest.

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I'd actually have run around in the woods.

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I was fortunate to live next to some state woodland,

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and so I actually had free run and the last

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of seven kids, so the folks gave me they were

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ready to retire from kids, so they didn't keep too

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close an eye on me. So that gave me a

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lot of time in the wilds. And so I wanted

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my kids to have the same opportunity to be out

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out in the woods, so we did a lot.

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Of bundok camping.

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I think we had one opportunity to stay at a

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state park, but other than that, we were always out

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in the wild. But it wasn't until after they grew

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up and went out on their own. I don't recollect

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any sort of weird incident, any sort of situation that

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would make me question their safety, my safety, or if

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anything was out there, not even any bear. But later

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on the wife and I we love camping, and so we.

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Got a couple of I got my first jeep, Rubicon.

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Outfitted it rooftop ten and I built a utility trailer

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and outfitted it with everything you would need for living

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out in the wilderness for a while. And so we

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started started heading out deeper and deeper into the Willamett

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National Forest, and we spent a lot of time way

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out where people don't go. That was the whole point

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of getting the jeeps. We camp year round, rain, snow, summer.

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The first real eyebrow raising situation was late October twenty

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twenty two. The wife and I alone went up into

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the Sant Diem that's part of the Willamett National Forests.

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So this little quartz creek. You follow it on up

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and it goes way back. I believe it goes all

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the way up into the cast does go into the

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Cascade Range, but where its origins exactly are, I'm not sure.

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But we were way back up in there and found

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a beautiful little spot. All of the year, the maples

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and all the trees are turning color, and just found

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this beautiful spot and it was a flat area. So

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I set up our wall tent, got the stove going.

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There's a creek bed below us about twenty thirty feet,

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so we had clean water. And so that first first

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night we call it a night early. It was already dark,

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but I could hear whistling up on the hillside. Of course,

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it's heavily wooded with Douglas fir and maple and whatnot.

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But the whistle was very sharp, very clear, very powerful,

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and came up from the hillside.

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We're in at that point, a very.

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Narrow canyon, and swhistle just echoed through the canyon and

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it wasn't disconcerting. I just didn't know what it was.

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up on the hillside. And I'm a light sleeper, the wife.

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She doesn't hear so good, so she fell asleep. I

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fell asleep, and I woke up to more whistling, but

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this time it was the same place up on the hillside.

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But then a return whistle came from the creek bed

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below us.

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And man, that's communication.

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That's strange. I don't know what's at that time, I

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didn't know what was causing it, of course, but then

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I started hearing rocks getting turned over in the creek bed,

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and some of those rocks were the size where I

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could actually feel them. I'm on a cot in a

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tent twenty five ish feet above the creek bed, and

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I could feel these rocks getting turned over, and the

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whistles go back and forth. Every few minutes, there'd be

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a whistle up above and then down below in the

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creek bed. And then I'm realizing. At first I was

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thinking bear bit the bear, although they don't hibernate that

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time of year, but they really don't hibernate in this area.

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That I wasn't really thinking. I didn't know what to think, actually,

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but I knew something was going on, something powerful, because

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I could feel these rocks.

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Getting rolled around back and forth.

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And then I'm realizing the whistle up above is a

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lookout and the family or whoever is down in the

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creek dead collecting dinner, and they're going after crayfish snails.

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So there's lots of stuff, lots of fish and little

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fish in that creek. So I'm thinking they're the ones

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watching out making sure we don't come out of the

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tent or do anything, do anything stupid. Well, the rest

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of them eat their meal and didn't feel any threat,

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no fear, no nothing, no smell, no no. I honestly

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fell back asleep and I woke up. It was some

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time later, but I woke up, and I woke up

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to footfalls right next to my wall tent. I had

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a canvas military canvas tent that turned not tent tarp

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that I laid down to keep the inside of the

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tent plane while it extended out by about five feet

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outside the tent, And something was walking past the tent

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on that tarp. I could hear the footfalls tarp. And

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so that next morning I woke up and you told

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the wife about it, and why didn't you.

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Wake me up? You were sleeping.

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But that was really And then nothing happened at that site.

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After that, I did look around the next morning at

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the trail and there wasn't anything obvious. Look down in

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the creek bed. Obviously some of the rocks had been

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turned over, some of the sizeable rocks had been turned

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over a bit. Again, nothing to indicate what it was

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or who it was.

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Wow, Eric, that's an intense first experience. Are you able

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to not to put you on the spot, but are

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you able to try to do a rep Maybe it

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was something that sounded like the kind of whistle that

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you were hearing. Is that anything you're able to replicate?

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Gosh, I suck at whistling, I really do. I'm jealous

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of people who can really whist allowed. But it was

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a high pitched, very sharp, very powerful whistle. And I've

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hunted elk. I know what an elk sounds like when

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it squeals, whistles, whatever it is they do. It was

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nothing like a and you could tell it was far

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enough up on the hillside. It was the ways up there,

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but yet the whistle was sharp and clear. You could

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definitely hear it down where we were at. And I really,

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again I was just baffled as to what was actually happening.

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But I think By the end of that night, I

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had a pretty clear idea that, you know, what was

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up there was probably a family unit of bigfoot sasquatch,

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whatever you want to call them. I didn't have any evidence,

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but you're laying in bed in the middle of the

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night and you can hear these things happening.

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A bear. We don't have any bear that big round here.

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To roll rocks of that size over there. Was It

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just seemed like something would need to have hands and

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a lot of power behind those hands to roll those

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walks over.

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Absolutely, did it sound anything like I'm going to try

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it on my side. I'm just curious because I'm curious

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if it sounded like something I heard. Was it like a.

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Yes? Okay?

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But it it was longer, sharper, very powerful. It's nothing

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I could even come close to replicating.

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Okay, guys, yes, I think very similar to that.

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So similar, but not. It wasn't a type of deal

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where it was like replicating a bird sound or a

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bird call.

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Oh no, not at all. Gotcha? All right? Cool?

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And that's Listeners can listen to the Oakridge episodes I've done.

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I'm not going to retell that story now, but sometimes

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they replicate bird calls. We heard that in Oakridge, So

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that's why can you give me an estimate of it?

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Not to give you know anything away, but like how

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far back did you have to drive to get to

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this area where you're at? Was it really far away

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from the main road where this area is?

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Gosh, yeah, we're probably thirty forty miles back in there.

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Okay.

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We had never camped that far back in before.

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Like I said, we had always had the kids, and

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I wanted the kids to experience wilderness, but I didn't

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want to take them so far out that if something happened,

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we couldn't get too medic or you got kids, you

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don't get too dumb. But a couple of old people,

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you don't worry about it too much. Really nature, So

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we the older we get, the further we venture out. Honestly,

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we get brave and get out there. And that's the

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whole point of the rigs and the outfitting them like

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we do so that if something does happen, we've got

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pretty much the gear to handle medical situation too. We

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could probably live out of what we've outfitted in our

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rigs for probably thirty days easy. So if we get

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stranded in the snow, we've got fuel, we've got different

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cooking methods. We've got two different tents. We've got the

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rooftop tent, have the wall tent with the camp stove

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or a wood stove. We've got two different camp stoves

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on board gallons of white fuel form. Were outfitted pretty good.

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We get out there and that was probably one of

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the first times we had the tent and the stove.

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I had just built those. So we.

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Were out there, and I think in Pacific Northwest the

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PNW listeners will get that. I don't know if all

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the listeners will get that. So you have to be

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aware that. For example, when I was driving out in

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areas like this last July, I was driving from let's

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say Eugene over to Sisters or up to Detroit, and

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you're not seeing any There's like maybe one ranger you

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see that, there's no police officers. It's like you are

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literally in charge of keeping yourself, like you got to

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be able to take care of yourself. And so the

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way that Eric is doing it, I think that's a

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super smart move. You're the only one that's going to

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be able to protect you and your wife out there.

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You're not going to be available to rely on calling

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nine to one one. Really, in this first encounter, did

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you jump directly to bigfoot or were you now at

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the point where you're like, I'm not really sure what

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happened to us out there. We're gonna have to figure

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this out.

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Either.

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Yes, I suspected it was probably Bigfoot. I just wanted

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to rule other things out.

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And I've got a work construction. So all.

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All of these guys hunt and are out in the wilderness.

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So I asked them if they had any similar experiences,

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and on the face of it, nobody would say anything.

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I described the whistle to them and they're like, oh,

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that's an elk. No, I'm sorry, it wasn't an elk.

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Although elk are very powerful their lung capacity just man

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that whistle or whistles back and forth. They were very powerful,

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that an elk isn't gonna kick rocks over rocks the

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size of a a chair figure. These things were rumbling

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the ground as they rolled away. But no, the main

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focus was just camping. I enjoy it, we love it.

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And although this was a weird experience, it was the

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only real experience we've had so.

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There was it was just okay.

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Moving on yep, moving on absolutely. So then after this,

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what was the next thing that you had encountered?

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So shortly after that? So that happened in October. In

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November of that year, we got a pretty heavy snowfall

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up the McKenzie River valley here and I had I

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was actually alone that Thanksgiving, so I thought, this is

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a perfect opportunity to just get up there in the

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snow zone and try out the wall tent in the snow.

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And so I had.

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Cooked up a turkey and got all the goodies together

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to make a turkey soup up at camp.

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So I headed up and I think it was.

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Gosh around forty eight hundred feet by the time I

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finally got into snow that I couldn't plow through with

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that jeep and trailer.

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I found a nice.

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Flat area and I realized that the wall tint isn't

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actually going to cut it, and it was already getting

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dark by the time I had made where I was

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going to camp. So I decided I'll throw the water

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up the rooftop tent up. So I got it all

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set up in the same setting. I had a creek

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bed that was blow me. I could hear it surrounded

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by Doug fur and so I couldn't really see the

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creek bed, but I could hear it down There was

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probably thirty fifty feet below me. And then to the

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other side of the flat was a steep mountain side

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that went up at a pretty aggressive angle. And I'm

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getting set up and it's getting darker and darker. I

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got a bunch of flashlights. I didn't want to trip

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and stumble, so I positioned these flashlights in kind of

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a perimeter around just so I could walk around and

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not trip over something. And made my dinner and crawled

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up in the rooftop tent and called it a night.

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And I thought, I don't think there's bear that if

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I hear something because I left, I'm sorry. I left

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the soup what was left of it on the on

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the cookstove. I thought, man, I should put that away,

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but it was still hot, so I just figured out

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this lot of cool out there. I don't think I

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knew there was a cougar in the area. I saw

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the tracks, but I didn't see any bear track or

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anything like that.

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So I just figured, yeah, if.

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I hear one older shoe shit away, And then I

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heard it. It was a whistle way up on the hillside,

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just like the one before. A sharp crisp echoed through

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the area, and then a return down in the creek,

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the exact same scenario.

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I camp my whole life.

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I've never heard this before, never experienced this before, and now,

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basically a month apart, it's happening again.

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And so.

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I listened to it, same thing, and I could hear

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the rocks getting turned over in the creek bed, and

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you could hear them rumbling, and but you know, no vocalization,

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no no screaming, no yelling, just a whistle back and forth.

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And I was tired, so I fell asleep. I'm a

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light sleeper, but I love my sleep. So the cool

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mountain air it was, I don't know, somewhere around twenty

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five degrees, and I sleep really well in the cold.

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So I fell asleep, and I have no idea.

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What time it was, early morning, probably two three o'clock

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in the morning. I woke up from a dead sleep

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to the most horrific smell I've ever smelled in my life,

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and it cracks me up every time somebody tries to

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describe it for me. If you've ever been around like

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a farm animal or a dog that has an infection

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and it's in the fur, and so you just have

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this very pungent, very rough smell. And I was laying

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there awake, and I could smell this. It was just saturating,

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and like I said, it woke me up from a

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dead sleep. And I had left my lights on in

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that perimeter around the vehicle, and I thought, man, what

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is going on? And all of a sudden, the light

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that I had placed on the front driver's side bumper

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of my.

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Jeep, it was picked up.

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And keep in mind, I can't really see out I've

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got everything zipped up and didn't hear anything, but the

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flashlight got picked up and was shining around, and then

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it shined across the tent itself, and fully I got

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something out there, and again the whistling rolling rocks. This

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time there's this smell and something is articulating. This is

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picking up this flashlight, and I thought, man, I want

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to slowly and zip one of the windows so I

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could get a look. I knew that the second I

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make noise, whatever's out there is going to scatter. So

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I just laid there and listened, and it eventually went away,

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and I fell asleep again, and when I woke up

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later that morning, it was raining ice, and I knew

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that was not good because the snow was deep enough

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where it was going to be with a sheet of

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ice on top of that, it was going to be troubled.

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So I got up and quickly started breaking down camp.

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And although I didn't look for tracks intentionally, I did.

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I did glance around to see I saw nothing.

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I had stomped the snow down pretty good, but my

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intention was to not get myself into trouble and get

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stuck up there, because honestly, nobody knew I was up there,

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which kind of dumb. But in any case, I got

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camp packed up and headed down the mountain, and even

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inside the cab of the jeep, which was sealed up,

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I could smell this thing, and I'm like, man, this

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is rough. But on the way back to where I lived,

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I got to thinking, if if I can smell this

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as good as I do, I wonder what a dog

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would do. And so my daughter and my son in

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law they have two German shepherds. So I got my

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son in law on the phone. I'm like, hey, I

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want to try something, I said, and he said, don't

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want to see how your dogs react to something.

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Okay.

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I didn't really fill him in on what I was

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up to. And the closer I got to their house,

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the more I thought about it.

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So I called him back.

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I'm like, hey, so when I get there, have your

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dogs on their leash and hang on, hang on to them.

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I don't know how they're going to react. He's okay,

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and so I'm like, man, I'm serious. So I pull

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up in front of their house, call them again, Hey,

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I'm here.

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Make sure you got your hands on dogs. Yeah. Yeah.

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So I go up to the door and then the

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dog scrambled to the door because I hear somebody at

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the door, of course, and he opens the door. He

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doesn't have his hands on the dogs, and the male

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extremely aggressive. I've never seen him like that. He's an

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aggressive dog anyway, but he got a whiff of that

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and just.

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Went crazy, lunged at me.

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Was just going crazy, and the other dog, she was

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kind of holding back. She really didn't react too much.

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So I got her and I thought I took her

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over to the jeep and opened up the jeep and

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see if she reacted or could smell anything, But she

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didn't really, she didn't really care. But the male dog,

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he was of course, he's the alpha, he's he was

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protecting the family, and he knew what that smell was.

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So that was I'm sorry that that was the end

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of that one, real real quick.

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I've never stayed in the rooftop ten I for they

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freaked me out a little bit. But when you were

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up there and then, man, I can't imagine being up

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there realizing something has my flashlight and then it because

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it's like what happens if it starts pushing the jeep

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or it like pushes it over, like you're done.

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Yeah, the thought never crossed my mind. And I didn't

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feel threatened at all at all in both these encounters.

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It was just again, it just I don't know if

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it's accurate or not, but it just seemed like a

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family unit and they they were doing their thing. I

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was doing my thing, and so it wasn't it wasn't

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necessarily a hostile situation.

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Sure, yeah, absolutely I didn't feel a threat. They didn't.

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The smell was overwhelming. That was the only thing that

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was shocking. I've never I've smelled horses and animals that

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have serious infections and they smell pretty rough and that's

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the big part of what that kind of smell was

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really rough.

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Oh did you get that flashlight back? Was there anything

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weird with the flashlight? When you got it back?

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I did it set it back down on my bumper

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pretty much in the same position that it had found it,

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And they didn't, near as I can tell anyway, they

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didn't mess with my dinner. They didn't mess with any

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of the other flashlights or any of the other gear

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I had sitting out, so near as I can tell,

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it was just curious about the flashlight.

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That's a huge point is really it was more curious

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than it was hungry, which is that's pretty cool to

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think about. I didn't even touch your turkey soup.

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August of the following year, twenty twenty three, eight canyon

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was now on the bucket list, and we packed up

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the jeep and the wife and I hit it up

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to a Mount Saint Helens. I had looked at the

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area to find the best possible camp I could find,

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and then I always have a plan B and Plan

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C in case the primary fails, which in this particular

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case it did. They had a gate across one of

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the access points, so that was out. But we did

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end up staying at the foot of eight Canyon, and

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so we set up camp and I can't necessarily I

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don't know what did this, but it was interesting. I'm

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going to note it anyway. But that evening I was

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We looked around all day and found a good place

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to camp and settled in. I was grumpy because the

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gate was closed and I couldn't get to our primary.

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All of the secondary was really nice too, but I

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was grumpy, and I had set up kind of late.

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It was already getting dark, and so on the trailer

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that I built, I've got a countertop that I can

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put out, and so I set up the stoves and

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started preparing two steaks. And so I had opened this

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package of steaks and pulled out two steaks out of

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a package of six, and I got my back to

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the woodline and I heard a growl and it was

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a deep, guttur old growl.

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Bear. I didn't know what it was, but.

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I turned around and looked, and I had a flashlight

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on me. I scanned the woodline. Nothing, So I want

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to get dinner done, so I turned back around and

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a few seconds later, this thing starts growling again. I

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shine the woodlight the woodline again.

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Nothing.

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I don't see anything, no eye shine, no nothing. I

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turn around and start working on my stakes again, putting

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seasoning on, and I hear the growl again. By this time,

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I'm like, this isn't going to stop. I grab a

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flashlight and head over to the tree line. I'm walking

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to the tree line this time and kind of rushing it,

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trying to listen to see if I can hear anything

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breaking brush or whatever.

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Nothing.

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I didn't hear anything breaking brush, didn't see anything. I'm

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looking pretty intently at this point to see what's there,

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and nothing like all right. So I go back to

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my stakes and I look over in that package of

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steaks that I had there. There's one of them missing.

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But it wasn't the first one that you could easily grab.

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It was one that was under the cellophane behind the

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first stake of the second of the four remaining steaks.

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Something had to have lifted that cellophane and grab that

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that steak at it there.

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And the growling stop. Never heard it again.

465
00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:51.559
So something growling in the woodline got my attention. While

466
00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:56.000
something went over there and grabbed one of the steaks.

467
00:30:57.160 --> 00:30:57.799
Patty was there.

468
00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:01.599
She didn't hear anything, completely oblivious to the whole situation.

469
00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:07.599
Wow, weird, And so that was.

470
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:10.960
I can't attribute that to anything. I have no idea.

471
00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:13.920
Maybe I don't know. I don't even know what to

472
00:31:14.039 --> 00:31:14.799
chalk that one up to.

473
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:15.640
Just a weird one.

474
00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:19.359
But eight Canyon is off the bucket list now, So

475
00:31:19.400 --> 00:31:20.160
we got that done.

476
00:31:20.440 --> 00:31:22.279
You got that out of there. So was it hard

477
00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:24.200
to get down to where you guys camped because you

478
00:31:24.200 --> 00:31:26.240
said it was the like down at the base.

479
00:31:28.519 --> 00:31:31.279
No, we were just in that particular case.

480
00:31:31.359 --> 00:31:34.599
We were it was just a bucketless item, so we

481
00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:37.359
just camped. It was on one of the back roads,

482
00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:41.960
so it was just off a forest service road.

483
00:31:42.559 --> 00:31:43.599
So it was just like.

484
00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:51.000
Old staging area for like fier equipment or something like that.

485
00:31:51.200 --> 00:31:54.640
It wasn't anything fancy, but.

486
00:31:57.000 --> 00:32:00.000
Yeah, it was beautiful up there. It was awesome. That was.

487
00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:05.960
Again, I wasn't scared this thing was growling, but it wasn't.

488
00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:10.319
I don't know, just it wasn't like I don't think

489
00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:12.200
it was trying to scare me as much as get

490
00:32:12.200 --> 00:32:14.480
my attention to get me away from those steaks so

491
00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:17.039
something else could get in there and grab one of

492
00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:17.640
the steaks.

493
00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:21.119
It's kind of weird, absolutely, and it really lines up

494
00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:27.240
with you hear these common threads where sometimes they'll be

495
00:32:27.400 --> 00:32:29.839
more than one. They'll try to get your attention over

496
00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:32.440
to another area so that one could get away or

497
00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:37.000
in this case steal your food, which is that's wild man.

498
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:39.200
That would have messed with me for a long time.

499
00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:43.759
When you're in a situation where something had to have

500
00:32:44.200 --> 00:32:46.880
hands in order to do what it did, I think

501
00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:50.440
that really does change you. But very cool story, very

502
00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:54.839
cool area, the Ape Canyon area. But y'all feel free

503
00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:56.039
to continue.

504
00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:59.720
Eric Fall.

505
00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:03.480
So it was October of twenty twenty four. We're back

506
00:33:03.559 --> 00:33:08.079
up the McKinsey River Valley. We had a fire that year.

507
00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:10.759
Pretty much got a fire every year now it seems.

508
00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:15.960
But by October the fire was out and the most

509
00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:19.240
of the equipment and the manpower everybody had moved out.

510
00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:22.160
The wife and I we jumped in the rig to

511
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:26.839
hit some of the back for service roads just measure

512
00:33:26.880 --> 00:33:32.759
the damage and see what areas were affected, what wasn't.

513
00:33:33.559 --> 00:33:36.160
And some of it was pretty shocking. Some of it

514
00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:42.200
was intact, which was really good as forest fires are

515
00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:47.000
very disconcerting. This one was pretty close to where we

516
00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:52.240
are and so it keeps the anxiety high all year,

517
00:33:53.559 --> 00:33:57.720
or not all year, but all summer long. So we

518
00:33:57.759 --> 00:34:01.519
got up in back up in there, and as we're

519
00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:05.799
headed back in there, I look over and here's an

520
00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:12.440
area of devastation. But it's not devastation by fire. It's trees,

521
00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:18.000
not old growth, not huge trees. But they were probably

522
00:34:18.960 --> 00:34:23.320
six to eight inch diameter trees that were snapped off.

523
00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:26.719
Some of them were like pulled out of the ground.

524
00:34:26.840 --> 00:34:30.719
Some of them were broke off. Measured at fourteen feet

525
00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:34.639
up in the air. They were broke off, And I

526
00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:38.000
walked back in there because it was just so odd.

527
00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:42.280
I actually walked back in there and see if they

528
00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:45.000
were sawcat, if machinery had pushed them down.

529
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:49.000
This whole area, which was probably the size of a.

530
00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:54.920
Maybe half a football field, There wasn't anything really standing.

531
00:34:55.320 --> 00:34:58.360
They were leaning over on each other. Some of them

532
00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:01.440
were just pushed over onto other ones, but the whole

533
00:35:01.519 --> 00:35:09.199
thing was surrounded by standing trees. There were there was

534
00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:11.360
the trees were so close. You're not going to get

535
00:35:11.360 --> 00:35:15.320
equipment in there. And even if you could, the trees

536
00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:19.199
were not They weren't damaged in such a way as

537
00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:23.039
where a grappler or a saw or anything left marks

538
00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:23.840
on it.

539
00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:26.119
None of this was saw cut.

540
00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:31.800
It was all just snapped off and just a very

541
00:35:33.199 --> 00:35:35.039
bizarre and realistic scene.

542
00:35:35.880 --> 00:35:36.320
There was.

543
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:45.280
Really no way, even wind surrounded. Although it is on

544
00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:50.280
a hillside, we hadn't had any wind, definitely no snowlad

545
00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:54.119
because this was going in to fall. It wasn't a

546
00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:57.480
snowlad issue. So it was like something got in there

547
00:35:57.519 --> 00:36:00.280
and through a temper tantrum is the best way I

548
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:05.800
describe it, and just walk back to the jeep. And

549
00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:09.239
we traveled on around to see where the fire actually

550
00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:15.960
had burned, and on our way back down and has been.

551
00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:19.840
My go to just for.

552
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:25.440
Just for giggles, I'll stop in a remote area like

553
00:36:25.480 --> 00:36:30.760
that and shut the rig down and I'll whoop.

554
00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:33.920
I don't know why, I don't know where I picked

555
00:36:33.920 --> 00:36:34.239
it up.

556
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:37.239
I don't even remember when I started doing it. But

557
00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:41.719
so we pull up there and I'm sorry, we're back

558
00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:44.800
at this area where all these trees were.

559
00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:51.039
Down, and I whoop and nothing, And so.

560
00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:57.119
I get ready to start the jeep back up, and

561
00:36:57.199 --> 00:37:02.599
I hear a whoop and I look at my wife, who,

562
00:37:03.480 --> 00:37:06.800
like I mentioned, is she doesn't hear so good. And

563
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:10.760
she heard it, and she goes do that again, So

564
00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:16.239
a whoop again, and this one back and forth.

565
00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:20.559
For about fifteen minutes I.

566
00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:24.239
Had whoop, and then the awkward amount of time would

567
00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:30.960
go by and I would get a reply a whoop,

568
00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:38.440
and the reply whoop was getting farther and farther. The

569
00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:41.760
sound was the same, the distance was the same, but

570
00:37:41.840 --> 00:37:45.840
the length of time it was taking longer to respond,

571
00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:50.320
and so again I just chalked it up to that's.

572
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:53.920
Really weird, and I started.

573
00:37:54.599 --> 00:37:57.239
I went to start up the jeep and the final

574
00:37:57.280 --> 00:38:01.199
whoop was loud enough to I could hear it over

575
00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:05.920
the GEP. And then so I look over out the

576
00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:10.280
window to this blowdown area and this.

577
00:38:10.360 --> 00:38:12.880
Side of I don't.

578
00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:17.480
I call it a blowdown area, but the tree line

579
00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:26.079
this side of that area, this huge black object, human

580
00:38:26.199 --> 00:38:33.400
shape thing just darted out and went from my right

581
00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:39.000
to my left and gone. It just it was so fast,

582
00:38:39.239 --> 00:38:43.760
just almost like a blur. And I've heard accounts of

583
00:38:44.159 --> 00:38:48.199
people saying they've had a rifle and tried to tried

584
00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:51.239
to get a shot at one of these things and

585
00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:54.599
try to swing the rifle as fast as they could

586
00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:57.159
to try to get a shot, and they couldn't keep

587
00:38:57.239 --> 00:38:59.280
up with it. And that's exactly what this was. I

588
00:38:59.280 --> 00:39:01.360
wouldn't believe it. I hadn't seen it with my own eyes.

589
00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:05.679
It was just and it was right there. It was

590
00:39:05.719 --> 00:39:09.360
throwing its voice off into the distance, making it sound

591
00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:11.119
like it was further away than it was.

592
00:39:12.360 --> 00:39:18.440
It was right there. Oh wow, the speed of it.

593
00:39:18.199 --> 00:39:21.719
Was just what what blew my mind? I was just

594
00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:26.880
I couldn't believe something that big could move that quick.

595
00:39:27.239 --> 00:39:31.360
There wasn't any fear. It was just there. We were

596
00:39:31.400 --> 00:39:34.599
just having fun, whooping back and forth. No idea what

597
00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:37.280
I was saying to it. There was no smell, no nothing.

598
00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:39.599
Of course, it was far enough away that the wind

599
00:39:39.639 --> 00:39:42.079
would have had been coming right at us to be

600
00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:42.920
able to smell it.

601
00:39:43.000 --> 00:39:48.519
But yeah, I was. That was the first time I

602
00:39:48.559 --> 00:39:49.599
had actually.

603
00:39:50.719 --> 00:39:55.239
Seen something heard him smell them that. That's the first

604
00:39:55.239 --> 00:39:59.719
time I've actually seen him. Even that wasn't very clear.

605
00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:05.719
How far away from you both was it approximately.

606
00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:14.519
So it was up an incline, but probably, oh, probably close.

607
00:40:14.280 --> 00:40:16.599
To fifty feet. Wow.

608
00:40:16.920 --> 00:40:20.599
Okay, man, I.

609
00:40:20.559 --> 00:40:22.280
Thought I knew something was there.

610
00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:24.519
I didn't know what it was, but I knew something

611
00:40:24.639 --> 00:40:28.000
was there, But I had no idea it was that close.

612
00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:30.480
It sounded like it was off in a distance. I

613
00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:34.639
guess that it was throwing its voice or throwing the

614
00:40:34.679 --> 00:40:40.480
whoop away from us, but it was loud enough to

615
00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:42.840
where you could still hear it.

616
00:40:42.920 --> 00:40:43.280
I don't know it.

617
00:40:44.920 --> 00:40:48.920
To me, it showed intelligence, it didn't want to give

618
00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:52.360
itself up. But it really makes me wonder because I

619
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:58.480
started the jeep and it whooped again, and we're getting

620
00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:01.079
ready to leave. So white blow your cover, so to speak,

621
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:05.039
because it was behind behind a a grouping of trees

622
00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:06.639
to where I couldn't see it.

623
00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:09.679
I don't know. It just makes me wonder anyway, why

624
00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:11.280
I blow your cover? Yeah?

625
00:41:11.320 --> 00:41:16.199
Absolutely, So it's for listeners. So if we're talking like

626
00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:19.400
fifty feet that an example of that is like a

627
00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:22.360
little over half the length of a basketball court, is

628
00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:26.079
what fifty feet is. Yeah, so you saw it ron

629
00:41:26.199 --> 00:41:29.119
as a blur, you dart out, were you able to

630
00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:32.079
get a sense of how tall whatever you saw was?

631
00:41:34.199 --> 00:41:36.559
Not? Really? But I'd like to said it was on

632
00:41:36.639 --> 00:41:40.719
an incline. It was uphill from me, so I'm looking up.

633
00:41:40.639 --> 00:41:43.320
At it, so it maybe it looked bigger than it

634
00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:44.079
actually was.

635
00:41:44.159 --> 00:41:47.119
But I didn't go up there a measure. I didn't

636
00:41:47.119 --> 00:41:52.119
get out. I went home, so I knew actually laying eyes.

637
00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:56.639
On something for reals these this time, all the sounds,

638
00:41:56.719 --> 00:41:59.280
all the weird stuff that's happened in the past, it's

639
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:02.719
all for this picture. And he's you can chalk up

640
00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:06.519
a lot of the experiences I've had to whatever when

641
00:42:06.519 --> 00:42:12.400
you actually see something moving like that, and maybe it

642
00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:15.920
was a human whooping at me, but there is no

643
00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:21.119
human on planet or ever that could move like that.

644
00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:23.719
Zero There is a zero chance.

645
00:42:25.400 --> 00:42:28.519
Like I said, I've listened to guys recount swinging a

646
00:42:28.599 --> 00:42:30.840
rifle at one and not being able to keep up,

647
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:34.199
and that's exactly what this was. There was if you

648
00:42:34.199 --> 00:42:37.039
would have drawn on this thing, there's no way you

649
00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:38.000
could have fired at it.

650
00:42:39.159 --> 00:42:39.840
Wild stuff.

651
00:42:39.880 --> 00:42:41.159
So this is now.

652
00:42:41.199 --> 00:42:44.159
You're in the time where you've actually had a sighting

653
00:42:44.199 --> 00:42:47.679
of something and there's no coming back from that. From

654
00:42:48.199 --> 00:42:51.840
what I've gathered talking to people over the years, I

655
00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:55.440
haven't had that yet myself. But Eric, let's continue with

656
00:42:55.599 --> 00:42:58.840
what you've experienced as we go along here.

657
00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:05.920
Like I mentioned earlier, that fire happened in twenty four.

658
00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:10.719
We had another fire this year, wasn't near as aggressive.

659
00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:15.559
This late summer was rainy, so it helped well some

660
00:43:15.599 --> 00:43:18.960
of the fire danger, but it also brought in thunderstorms

661
00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:21.719
which ignited some of the fires.

662
00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:23.920
And these firefighters up here have.

663
00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:27.320
Been doing an amazing job of getting on top of

664
00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:34.079
these fires very rapidly and getting them out. But unfortunately,

665
00:43:34.159 --> 00:43:37.360
this big called it the fully Ridge fire out of

666
00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:41.199
got out of control. It got away from them, and

667
00:43:41.599 --> 00:43:45.280
several a couple of days had gone by of this

668
00:43:45.400 --> 00:43:47.760
fire burning, and it looked like they weren't going to

669
00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:51.280
get it out, and it had grown pretty aggressively.

670
00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:53.360
Over the course of two days.

671
00:43:53.480 --> 00:44:00.119
We lived right near there, and so we thought we

672
00:44:00.199 --> 00:44:01.039
probably better.

673
00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:03.599
Get eyes on this, and because you.

674
00:44:03.559 --> 00:44:07.480
Don't want to be evacuating at a moment's notice, you

675
00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:09.679
want to plant ahead it. Later in the evening it

676
00:44:09.679 --> 00:44:13.519
was still daylight, but later in the evening we went

677
00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:19.199
up to that area and pulled off the road and

678
00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:25.760
it's pretty aggressive terrain, pretty thick, pretty thick brush. Again,

679
00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:30.800
you're in a mix of old growth dug fur and

680
00:44:31.039 --> 00:44:34.159
some younger dug fur, and then of course there's other

681
00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:39.880
lots of scrub brush and whatnot. But you could see

682
00:44:39.880 --> 00:44:43.880
the fire off oh gosh, probably eighth of a mile

683
00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:49.320
off the road as it inclines up the mountainside, and

684
00:44:50.079 --> 00:44:53.320
fortunately it really didn't look as bad as what they

685
00:44:53.360 --> 00:44:59.119
were saying, and we're relieved by that, and we just

686
00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:04.559
watch the choppers come in and vomit, and then it

687
00:45:04.679 --> 00:45:09.480
got towards evening and we're just I wanted to get

688
00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:13.519
some pictures of it at night with my phone. I've

689
00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:16.480
got a nice phone and as a night shot feature

690
00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:20.440
on it where you can get thermal It doesn't have

691
00:45:20.559 --> 00:45:23.440
thermal imaging on it as far as I know, but

692
00:45:24.199 --> 00:45:29.280
it does take real good pictures of ambient light at night,

693
00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:33.360
so if there's any light out there, phone picks up

694
00:45:33.360 --> 00:45:35.039
on it. So I figured we'd be able to see

695
00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:40.199
hotspots real well and get a pretty good scope of

696
00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:44.440
where the fire is, and then we'd come back subsequent

697
00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:48.440
nights and get updates and see how fast it's progressing.

698
00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:52.800
It's well after dark at this point, Fire Cruise had

699
00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:59.679
gone home, the choppers were long gone, and I let

700
00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:02.880
out a whoop, like I always do getting ready to

701
00:46:02.920 --> 00:46:07.159
go home. So I let out a whoop, and way

702
00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:11.119
up above the fire, to the left where the fire

703
00:46:11.360 --> 00:46:16.880
had not gone yet, I'm standing outside the jeep Patty

704
00:46:17.840 --> 00:46:23.960
is my wife. She's sitting in the passenger seat. I

705
00:46:24.039 --> 00:46:28.800
let out the whoop, and this huge dug fur. It

706
00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:33.360
was like within five seconds of me doing a whoop,

707
00:46:33.519 --> 00:46:39.280
this huge dug fur comes crashing down and I turn

708
00:46:39.320 --> 00:46:42.719
around to look at the wife and I'm just in shock.

709
00:46:43.679 --> 00:46:47.320
I asked her, did you hear that? And she's like, yes,

710
00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:51.239
I heard that. And I didn't get turned back around

711
00:46:51.440 --> 00:46:56.960
to the woodline before the second huge dug fur got

712
00:46:57.400 --> 00:47:02.159
up pushed down. I'd find out later it was pushed down,

713
00:47:03.679 --> 00:47:07.840
and so that was enough that scared me. I was

714
00:47:07.840 --> 00:47:13.320
finally scared. We got out of there, and we're talking

715
00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:17.840
about coincidences. What was that? And we both know that

716
00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:22.639
was outside the burn, so it wasn't burn trees coming down.

717
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:26.360
That was well outside where the fire was or even

718
00:47:26.480 --> 00:47:32.639
had been, So that didn't add up. And so we

719
00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:38.000
went back and I don't know how many days had passed,

720
00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:42.920
It may have been a day, maybe two days after that,

721
00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:45.679
we went back up just to check on the progress

722
00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:50.840
of the fire. Again, it's at night, right at dusk,

723
00:47:51.519 --> 00:47:56.159
and so I'd get some pictures, some night pictures of

724
00:47:56.199 --> 00:48:01.800
the fire, and again I whoop, and again a tree

725
00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:07.800
comes down again within seconds after I whoop, and this

726
00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:11.360
was been the same approximate area where the other two

727
00:48:11.400 --> 00:48:15.559
trees came down. It was outside the burn and another

728
00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:22.639
massive tree. And shortly after that there was a whoop

729
00:48:23.960 --> 00:48:27.400
a reply that came back. And as you're looking at

730
00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:30.880
the mountain side, it was to my right. The trees

731
00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:37.639
came down to my left up the mountain side, so

732
00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:42.159
the whoop came from my right, and so I whooped

733
00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:48.960
back and got a whoop again to my right, and

734
00:48:49.000 --> 00:48:52.519
this went on back and forth for probably about forty

735
00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:58.079
five minutes. We did start working our way down because

736
00:48:58.079 --> 00:49:01.599
it was getting late. We did start working our way

737
00:49:01.639 --> 00:49:06.360
down down the road. But as we were working down,

738
00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:10.880
I'd pull over and whoop and get a whoop back.

739
00:49:12.599 --> 00:49:16.880
And I had assumed it was firefighters up in there

740
00:49:16.960 --> 00:49:18.840
that were camped out up in there, that were just

741
00:49:18.960 --> 00:49:22.800
messing around like I was messing around. But we found

742
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:25.840
out the next day that no, the.

743
00:49:25.800 --> 00:49:28.519
Firefighters pull out before.

744
00:49:28.119 --> 00:49:34.719
Dark and go to their camp that was I don't know,

745
00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:38.559
about five or six miles away, so there was nobody

746
00:49:38.639 --> 00:49:44.159
up in there. And that's when I realized that we

747
00:49:44.280 --> 00:49:48.400
got something. For reals, He's going on here, and so

748
00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:51.559
I mentioned it to a friend of mine that I

749
00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:56.880
work with, and he was very interested to experience this

750
00:49:57.000 --> 00:50:00.360
for himself. So I took him up there. This is

751
00:50:01.519 --> 00:50:06.679
again several days later. Again we go up there and

752
00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:11.639
I whoop, and this time I've got the camera rolling.

753
00:50:13.039 --> 00:50:16.880
And just before that, you could hear something in the

754
00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:20.280
tree line. I couldn't see it, but you could hear

755
00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:23.920
something trying to be quiet moving through the tree line.

756
00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:27.840
And I asked him, do you hear that? He hadn't

757
00:50:27.880 --> 00:50:30.760
heard it, and I said, there's something in there. And

758
00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:34.159
I tell him I'm going to whoop, and so I

759
00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:41.000
whoop and another massive tree comes down and that was it.

760
00:50:41.360 --> 00:50:46.599
I don't know, it scared him.

761
00:50:47.199 --> 00:50:49.440
Go ahead, let's I think it'd be good. We can

762
00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:52.760
play that sound right now. Actually, you have you provided

763
00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:56.000
the video audio for that, So I'm going to go ahead.

764
00:50:56.000 --> 00:50:58.159
We'll put it in here and so people can hear

765
00:50:58.239 --> 00:50:59.639
exactly what happened.

766
00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:04.280
There's something in there, I think, so I can hear it,

767
00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:16.039
hear it. Yeah, hung gonna whoop? Yeah.

768
00:51:31.039 --> 00:51:38.440
Uh, some wild stuff, man. I can't imagine experiencing that

769
00:51:38.480 --> 00:51:40.719
in real life. That would be absolutely wild.

770
00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:42.960
Yeah.

771
00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:46.519
The first couple of times. It's a little disconcerting. This

772
00:51:46.639 --> 00:51:51.440
thing has to be massive. I couldn't imagine how how

773
00:51:51.480 --> 00:51:53.960
big this thing has to be pushing trees like that. Now,

774
00:51:55.000 --> 00:51:58.519
if this has happened, I gosh, I'm I lost count,

775
00:51:58.639 --> 00:52:06.239
but probably at least nine times, ten times now maybe one.

776
00:52:06.960 --> 00:52:07.760
I'd go up there.

777
00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:11.079
And I've taken a couple of different people up with me,

778
00:52:11.679 --> 00:52:15.599
and it's shocking. It's shocking the first time it happens,

779
00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:19.239
it's hard to believe that it's actually happening. But I

780
00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:23.360
took a gentleman up there with me this this last week,

781
00:52:24.400 --> 00:52:29.719
and he brought a large pit ball with him. And

782
00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:35.440
when we got in there, there wasn't there wasn't really

783
00:52:35.440 --> 00:52:36.639
a whole lot of activity.

784
00:52:36.679 --> 00:52:38.679
At first, I had.

785
00:52:40.440 --> 00:52:43.719
Heard some we had heard some tree knocks, and I

786
00:52:43.800 --> 00:52:46.360
did a whoop like I always due, and a tree

787
00:52:46.440 --> 00:52:50.400
came down way off in the distance, and so we

788
00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:55.480
thought maybe we should move in that direction, and so

789
00:52:55.519 --> 00:52:58.840
we did. We got in our rigs and moved down

790
00:52:58.880 --> 00:53:03.960
in that direction and whoop, I whooped again. And we're

791
00:53:03.960 --> 00:53:08.360
outside the rigs. It's pitch black. There's no moon, no stars,

792
00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:14.760
it's dark, absolutely dark. I'm at the rear of his rig,

793
00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:17.719
and he's outside the rig and I can't hardly even

794
00:53:17.760 --> 00:53:21.440
see him, it's so dark, but he had his dog

795
00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:29.719
outside the rig, and within literal minute or two, his

796
00:53:29.920 --> 00:53:34.920
dog was very anxious and wanted She was pawing at him,

797
00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:39.760
wanting back in the rig. And so he verbalized that

798
00:53:39.880 --> 00:53:42.719
to me that his dog is very anxious and wants

799
00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:44.360
to back in the rig. So he put her back

800
00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:47.880
in the rig, and she goes and sits in the

801
00:53:47.920 --> 00:53:52.119
front seat, the driver's seat, where she absolutely doesn't belong,

802
00:53:53.639 --> 00:54:00.880
and I whoop, and we heard some some noises. I

803
00:54:00.920 --> 00:54:03.880
don't know if it was a tree knock or some

804
00:54:04.119 --> 00:54:08.400
sort of popping sound anyway, But then for the first time,

805
00:54:08.440 --> 00:54:12.960
I heard feet stomping, and you could tell this thing

806
00:54:13.119 --> 00:54:18.920
was huge, but it was often a distance, but it

807
00:54:19.079 --> 00:54:25.880
was like six steps, just stomping hard into the into

808
00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:27.199
the ground up.

809
00:54:27.239 --> 00:54:31.599
On the hillside. So this thing was evidently.

810
00:54:31.119 --> 00:54:34.760
Not happy that there was a dog present. What I

811
00:54:34.840 --> 00:54:38.079
read it as maybe not, I don't know, but that's

812
00:54:38.119 --> 00:54:41.679
the first time anything like that has ever happened where

813
00:54:41.679 --> 00:54:45.840
it's stomped. But I think, honestly, I think they're moving

814
00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:49.679
out of the out of the area. I went up

815
00:54:49.719 --> 00:54:54.000
there this weekend. I went up there. Of course, we

816
00:54:54.079 --> 00:54:58.559
had a storm moving in and so it's hard to

817
00:54:58.559 --> 00:55:03.679
hear with the wind and the rain coming down. That

818
00:55:04.159 --> 00:55:07.719
was raining pretty aggressively, but it's hard to hear, so

819
00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:10.920
I might have missed something. But I've gone up there

820
00:55:12.039 --> 00:55:16.639
two nights now and I haven't heard anything, And so

821
00:55:16.840 --> 00:55:20.119
I'm thinking they're moving out because the sounds we're getting

822
00:55:20.119 --> 00:55:22.480
further and further off in the distance, and the fire

823
00:55:22.599 --> 00:55:25.440
is I'm assuming it has to be out by now with.

824
00:55:25.639 --> 00:55:27.119
All the rain that we've been getting.

825
00:55:27.800 --> 00:55:31.039
There might be a few smokers out there, but for

826
00:55:31.079 --> 00:55:34.800
the most part the fires out that I have to

827
00:55:34.840 --> 00:55:38.679
really kind of wonder. These things seem to be attracted

828
00:55:39.480 --> 00:55:44.960
to these fires, and I don't know if they're just

829
00:55:45.039 --> 00:55:49.039
keeping an eye on them, or we had fire crews

830
00:55:49.079 --> 00:55:53.000
out there, we had helicopters bombing. Is that the human

831
00:55:53.039 --> 00:55:58.639
attention to the fire that they're watching or are they

832
00:55:58.679 --> 00:56:01.199
watching the fire? I don't really know.

833
00:56:03.639 --> 00:56:06.400
They seem to be around these fires. Not sure. I

834
00:56:06.440 --> 00:56:07.960
don't know what your thoughts are on it, but.

835
00:56:08.639 --> 00:56:13.559
Eric, I completely agree with you. So, just for example Oakridge,

836
00:56:13.599 --> 00:56:15.480
the first year I was in Oakridge, we had those

837
00:56:15.519 --> 00:56:20.480
fires really close to Oakridge and the activity was wild

838
00:56:20.639 --> 00:56:24.119
out in the woods that was being experienced this last year,

839
00:56:25.000 --> 00:56:27.679
a little bit of activity, but not nearly as much.

840
00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:30.800
So I think when you have a fire involved, it

841
00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:35.719
really can kick off the things that you experience. And

842
00:56:35.800 --> 00:56:38.840
if you're going out, if listeners are going out when

843
00:56:38.840 --> 00:56:42.039
there's fires around, be careful of those, but also be

844
00:56:42.159 --> 00:56:46.079
aware you could find yourself in a really interesting situation

845
00:56:46.199 --> 00:56:49.599
like Eric has been experiencing, where whooping and then have

846
00:56:49.719 --> 00:56:52.800
a tree get pushed over. One time that's a coincidence,

847
00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:56.559
but like nine to ten times that's not a coincidence.

848
00:56:56.639 --> 00:57:00.280
That is something that's just completely wild.

849
00:57:02.519 --> 00:57:06.400
That that's within a within a very short time of

850
00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:10.400
the whoop. And there's been there's been times in that

851
00:57:10.800 --> 00:57:15.519
exact same area where all whoop tree comes down and

852
00:57:15.559 --> 00:57:19.880
then we hear owls all over the place, like the

853
00:57:19.960 --> 00:57:25.400
proverbial eight hundred pound owl. They're on the hillside on

854
00:57:25.599 --> 00:57:28.159
up the mountain to the right, to the left, and

855
00:57:28.199 --> 00:57:31.920
then we're hearing them behind us, so we're we've got

856
00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:36.039
them all around us. And there was one night.

857
00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:37.719
I have audio of that as well, that.

858
00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:43.320
These things just wouldn't stop. They were seemingly upset about something.

859
00:57:44.159 --> 00:57:48.760
I can't say that I was really that concerned about.

860
00:57:49.559 --> 00:57:52.840
I wasn't scared. It's not like they're projecting fear or anything.

861
00:57:54.199 --> 00:57:58.119
But that night that that thing stomped off, that's a

862
00:57:58.119 --> 00:58:01.559
pretty clear indication that big guys upset.

863
00:58:02.039 --> 00:58:03.880
Sure, absolute.

864
00:58:05.119 --> 00:58:08.039
That got me a little concerned. Pushing the trees down

865
00:58:08.079 --> 00:58:13.000
off in the distance, that's impressive. That's impressive, but scary. Yeah,

866
00:58:13.039 --> 00:58:15.480
it scared me the first, the first time or two,

867
00:58:15.920 --> 00:58:19.320
but after that it's old hat, as they say. But

868
00:58:20.119 --> 00:58:21.960
if he wanted to, he could push a tree down

869
00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:22.360
on us.

870
00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:23.199
He didn't.

871
00:58:24.159 --> 00:58:30.000
Absolutely, there was no rock throwing, no smell, no, no whistling,

872
00:58:30.119 --> 00:58:31.920
no did whoop.

873
00:58:32.199 --> 00:58:33.119
Got whoops back.

874
00:58:33.199 --> 00:58:39.079
But other than that, it's you can hear them going

875
00:58:39.119 --> 00:58:41.760
through the brush. You until they're trying to be stealthy,

876
00:58:42.840 --> 00:58:46.800
but you can still hear them.

877
00:58:46.920 --> 00:58:51.079
Eric, It's really some fascinating encounters you've been having over

878
00:58:51.119 --> 00:58:53.960
the years, and I would say, please continue to keep

879
00:58:54.039 --> 00:58:57.320
us in the loop if you do continue to have

880
00:58:58.079 --> 00:59:01.000
things going on. Even if you don't, that's data too

881
00:59:01.239 --> 00:59:04.760
if things stop and then they start up in the

882
00:59:04.880 --> 00:59:07.119
half a year or something. But thank you so much

883
00:59:07.199 --> 00:59:10.280
for coming on the show today and sharing what you've

884
00:59:10.320 --> 00:59:13.599
experienced in a really active area of Oregon and just

885
00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:15.360
a really beautiful area as well.

886
00:59:17.639 --> 00:59:22.599
Hey, thank you my pleasure. I'm enjoyed sharing.

887
00:59:23.079 --> 00:59:26.920
Definitely not going out looking for this who just this

888
00:59:26.960 --> 00:59:29.679
stuff is just out there happening, and I'm going to

889
00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:31.360
keep on keeping on.

890
00:59:31.639 --> 00:59:34.079
Definitely going camping. And I think the.

891
00:59:34.079 --> 00:59:38.480
More remote you get, probably the more the more you're

892
00:59:38.480 --> 00:59:42.599
gonna be in their area, and they as long as

893
00:59:42.599 --> 00:59:44.840
you're not a threat to them. I don't think they're

894
00:59:44.880 --> 00:59:45.920
going to be a threat to you.

895
00:59:46.559 --> 00:59:48.719
And you never know. I don't purford to.

896
00:59:48.760 --> 00:59:52.960
Understand the psychology of these things. I live next to

897
00:59:53.039 --> 00:59:56.800
one point seven million acres of forest land, old doug for,

898
00:59:57.280 --> 01:00:01.280
old growth, to you name it. It's out here, rough terrain,

899
01:00:01.960 --> 01:00:06.239
beautiful country. Like you said, that's why I'm here. But yeah,

900
01:00:06.239 --> 01:00:08.599
the main thing is camping. I love getting out there.

901
01:00:10.159 --> 01:00:11.159
Going to keep on keeping on.

902
01:00:12.719 --> 01:00:17.119
Excellent. Thank you again, Eric. All right, sir, have a

903
01:00:17.159 --> 01:00:17.599
good dick.

904
01:00:19.000 --> 01:00:21.320
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

905
01:00:21.360 --> 01:00:24.559
directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

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in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've

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if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder

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If you're in the logging industry on a remote oil

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If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

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01:01:33.079 --> 01:01:36.599
You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

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01:01:37.039 --> 01:01:39.480
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people that are into the Bigfoot subject as much as

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you are. Thanks again for following along with the Bigfoot

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Society until next time. Keep your eyes open, trust your gut,

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and never stop asking what else might be out there?

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And see you in the woods.