Nov. 11, 2025

Real Montana Bigfoot Encounter: A Month of Strange Activity in the Wilderness

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Season 1

When Nick travels to his family’s remote property near Helena, Montana, he expects peace and quiet — not growls in the dark, strange wood knocks, glowing orbs, and a massive shadowy figure watching from the trees.



In this unforgettable episode of Bigfoot Society, host Jeremiah Byron dives deep into Nick’s month-long series of terrifying events that left him questioning what really lives in the Montana wilderness. From mysterious lights and eerie noises to possible Bigfoot encounters and migration theories, this true story will keep you listening until the very end.



If you love true Bigfoot stories, paranormal encounters, cryptid mysteries, and real eyewitness accounts, this is one episode you don’t want to miss.

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You're listening to Big the Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to

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bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've

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seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers

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to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, Big the Society. But

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the privilege of talking to Nick today. Nick is an

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individual who's been a listener of the show for a

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few years now and reached out to me about some

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experiences that he's had in Montana and going to share

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some other things too that he's heard along the way.

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So welcome to the show. Nick. How are you doing man?

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Yeah, I'm doing good.

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How are you doing great? It's always a good time

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when I'm able to spend some time chatting about what

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people have experienced and listen to that. So I'm having

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a great day out here in Iowa. But Nick, feel

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free to take us back to the first thing you

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experienced and what you were up to that date when

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this started happening for you.

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Yeah, I'm from like every Washington, That's where I grew up,

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set area. I got family out on Tana outside of Helena,

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and so I'd been going there since I was a kid,

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been following big Foot search for years and years, listening

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to podcasts. Just something about it intrigued me a lot.

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And so one of the things, So I have a

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girlfriend and one of the things she encountered when she

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was about seven years old is she was at her

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parents' house and she looked out her window and in

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the backyard it's this is out in Lake Stevens. I've

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heard other experiences from out there, but when she looked down,

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she's seen a very tall figure under the spotlight a

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little bit back by the garage. And back then this

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was trees, lots of streams and swamp area and she

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didn't know what she saw, but it scared her. So

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that's one little detail there. I also have a buddy,

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and these are just a few experiences that I'm running

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off before I get into the Montana trip. But so

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I got a buddy that has some property out in

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Klea Elam as well, that's on the east side of

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the Cascades there, And I visited his place out there,

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and it's pretty cool out in the middle of nowhere

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near blm Land. And when he was in his little

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he's got a little I don't know, kind of like

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a little shed, a little bunk house. And he told

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me that him and his wife were there, just them

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on the property and he woke up in the middle

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of the night, and so the little sleeping loft is

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about ten twelve feet off the ground and when he

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woke up, he's seen that like these bright lights shining

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in through the window, and he like just woke up

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and he didn't know what was going on, and he

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ran down to go look outside, and it was gone

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by the time he looked out. But that's just an

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experience that he told me about that I thought was

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pretty interesting. Who knows what it could have been. But

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and then so back in east to have a girlfriend

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the next back in like Clearview area. It's kind of

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east of the I five quarter, kind of out by

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Highway nine, and she had a property out there that

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was on a few acres out in the woods. There

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was houses around, a lot of farmland stuff like that,

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and i'd go there and pick her up and we'd

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hang out. And I know one night I was sitting

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we were sitting there in the car and there's no

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lights anywhere. It's just dark and fields and woods, and

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we ended up hearing some whistles out back back of

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the property when I was listening to podcast all the time,

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and I'd joke around with, oh, that was probably bigfoot,

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but you never know. And at that same property, so

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I used to go park outside and wait for her

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to come out, and she'd just take forever and get

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ready and come out. And then I'm sitting there and

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I'm looking across this field and I see right along

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the tree line, I see this thing that looks like

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an orb It's just this kind of soft light and

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it's just dipping and flowing through the trees. And I

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sat there for probably twenty twenty five minutes watching this

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thing just move around in the woods. There's nothing over there.

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I don't know what someone's walking around at night in

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the woods right there. Or it wasn't like a flashlight either.

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It wasn't like a spotlight or a flashlight. It was

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just this light that was just moving, a soft glow

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moving through the trees. I just thought it was really weird.

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I listening to these big foot podcasts and I've just

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listened to everything, and just that's the first thing that

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pops in my head. Is who knows what that is, right,

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But definitely bigfoot was one thing that popped in my head.

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But you always hear about those orbs being related to

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bigfoot sightings. I don't know what it was, but I

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thought it'd be kind of interesting to tell you. Also,

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so I kind of had a rough life growing up,

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got in a lot of trouble when I was younger

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and ended up landing me in prison around like the

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age of thirty four. And while I was in prison,

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I ran into a guy in there and we were

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talking and he was actually in there for poaching. He

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poached a bear and he got in trouble for it

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and got locked up, and so we were talking about

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hunting and fishing and stuff, and I was like, you

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ever seen anything out there weird? And he's that's funny.

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Ask So he said that when he was fishing, that

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he was fishing in a creek and there was kind

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of like maybe ten foot walls around this creek and

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that he had seen something that was about ten feet tall, Harry,

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and it was in the daylight, and he said it

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was a bigfoot. I thought that was pretty cool daytime sighting. Yeah.

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Wow. Was he able to have any details about what

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area that was at?

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I don't know what area it was. This was five

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years ago when I was in prison. I've turned my

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life around and I'm doing good things now. But so

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it's just it's not something I really was. I thought

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I was going to need to remember, but I do

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remember him telling me about it, and I thought it

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was pretty cool.

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Absolutely, and concrats on turning your life around as well,

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which is a huge accomplishment.

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Yeah, thank you. Yeah, I'm very happy in life now.

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I'm a contractor. I run my own business. Just did

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a one to eighty and I haven't looked back. So

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if you want me to, I can start talking about

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my Montana trips. So I got family out in Montana.

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We got a few hundred acres outside of Helena, like

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just on the south side of Helena there, and so

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it's so you get off the freeway and you get

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to drive for about twenty minutes up into the hills

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and the mountains, and that's all private property back in there,

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going up the road. It's out in the middle nowhere.

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I just love going out there. It's I take about

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a month off during the winter time around Thanksgiving me

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go out there, and I take about a month off

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during summer to travel out there. And so we got

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one house. It's kind of like you go down a

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road and then you hang left and it goes up

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a kind of a steep road into my family's property

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and at the top when it levels out, I got

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my uncle's house up there, and then they got a

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little cabin right next to the house too, and then

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going up the road from the bottom, if you hang right,

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I got my cousin, Aaron's house, and it's on the hill.

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And then I got my other cousin's house. They got

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another house kind of a little farther back in there.

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So it's kind of like a little family compound on

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this acreage. So on this property, it's they got silver

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and just all over the property and we go rock

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counting and I've found a lot of silver. So this

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property is very interesting. There's a lot of you know,

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holes and just weird land, and there's got these silver mines,

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these big holes going into the ground that are pretty sketchy.

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A lot of times they use them for burn pits.

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And around this area we got some the like Elkhorn Mountains.

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You got just mountains everywhere around there a lot of

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bl lamb land. So right behind our family's property, there's

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nothing but blam land, right, there's just nothing out there.

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You can go on a four wheeler for miles and

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miles and it's just empty. There's trails and hunting and stuff,

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but yeah, it's just so One thing about Bigfoot is

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I think that they migrate. I don't think they stay

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here in this area all year. And if you look

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on a map, you can see where they would travel,

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and I think what they do is they may go

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down south for the winner and then they traveled back

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up in the Canada during the winter. So I think

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when I went out there last, so not this past summer,

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but the summer before is when I had these experiences.

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And I think I probably just was there at the

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right time when they were coming through. It was only

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this one time when I went out there that I

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had experiences and it was pretty eventful. So one thing

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about this trip was we were getting ready to go

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there and my girlfriend she had a dream about a

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bear attack like charging her. It was really weird that

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she would just have this dream about this. She knew

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we were going on this trip, but sometimes I think

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dreams have a merit or there might be something to it.

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So she had this dream about this bear charging up

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on her, and she just fell to the ground in

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her dream and the bear like went up in her face.

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And then she woke up right, and she told me

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about it. And I'm always being a city boy, but

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traveling out to Montana as a kid a lot in

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between them. I like to go camping and hunting and stuff,

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but I'm always worried about that wildlife or bears or

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it's just something to be caution about. I'm not trying

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to be some animal's food. So we're going out to

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this trip and I'm gonna be she had this dream.

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And then on our way out there, while we were driving,

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my cousin calls me and he says, oh, we've just

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seen a bear on the property. And I'm like, what,

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she just had this dream And now my cousin tells

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me is that there's a bear on the property, and

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heading over there, I'm just like got my head on

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a swivel because we want to go hiking around and

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go four wheeling and go explore and stuff. And now

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I got to worry about a bear. And so that

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was that just and I'd traveled out there after I

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got out of prison. I would go out there during

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the summer. It was single by myself, and so I

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went out there a lot, and I didn't really wasn't

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too worried about it, but they because she had this dream.

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And then cousin called me and told me there was

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a barren property. Like I was really on guard being there.

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I had my little dog with me and then I

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wanted to get eaten by something and he's just a

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little ten pound little chiuaha shitsu. And so the whole

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time really on point, keeping an eye out for anything.

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And then so we got there to Montana and it's

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beautiful out It's in between going from the wet season

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to the dry season. It was like June around there,

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and so it was still pretty lush, but it was

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starting to dry out a little bit by the end

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of our trip. We were there for about a month.

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So on this property, we got kind of in between

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where the houses are and blm. It goes up and

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down and into ravines and back up, and there's grant

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like these granite rocks are everywhere, just huge rocks the

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size of houses. And there's this one like rock wall

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that goes on for hundreds of yards. And there's we

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got this little spot that we call Pride Rock that

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kind of overlooks a big meadow that stretches around the property.

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And the elk to go up in there and grays

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and stuff. And so during honting season we always go

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up to Pride Rock and we'll look down and scope

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around and see if we can see any elk or whatnot.

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It's just a spot we go to hang out and

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get some fresh air. And so I I was already

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on point because of this bear. So I grabbed my

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my cousin's gun. I had that inside by and just

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a little protected. It was just a little forty five pistol,

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but just something. And so I got my little dog

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and I got my girlfriend cat. And where we walk out,

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you gotta like park, and then you got to walk

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through some trees to get to the rock, the Pride

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Rock where the other rocks are and we go out

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there and we look around. Just take me in the view.

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I'm showing her the place and on our way back,

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I'm ahead of her on the way back and my

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little dog is following her. And then she goes, oh,

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and there's these rocks that were kind of walking through

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to get back, and she's, oh, look at this cave

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over here. I want to go look at that cave.

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And I'm like, no, we're not looking at a cave.

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You just had a dream about a bear attacking you

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and there's oozy a bear on the property. You're not

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going to look at a cave. So we're what And

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I'm like, let's get out of here. So I start

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walking back towards the side by and I'm like maybe

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forty feet in front of them, and all of a sudden,

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we hear a growl. It was kind of like a

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It wasn't so much like an angry growl. It was

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more of a the sound of bear would make if

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they're gruffing just mosing around it. But it was loud.

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And immediately my girlfriend comes booking it towards the sideby,

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and my little dog was on a log and she

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was like ears perked up, and she's looking over by

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where the rocks were, and I just distinctively, I just

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ran over and back towards where this growl came from,

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and I snatched her up by the back of the

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neck and I come running back to the side by

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and we hop in it and take off, and you

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know the time, I'm thinking bear. That's what I thought

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it was, And that's what it could have been. The bear.

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For all I know, as the story goes, you'll see

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it might have could have been there, it might have

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been something else. So we'd go hikes on the property,

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and there's, like I said, there's silver mines everywhere. I

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wanted to look around, see if I can see what

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I can see, get my chance out in the woods,

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see if I can see anything that looks weird. And

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so we're going for hikes on this property, is to

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hang out and go for a little hike. And so

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we'd cross on our property, we'd cross over onto this

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kind of part of the property that's really hilly, and

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all along these hills are these big gouges in the

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earth where they had like old maybe test spots for mining.

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And so we're walking through and there's dead fall everywhere,

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these big, huge piles of dead fall, and you gotta

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step over logs, and it's really thick. And so we're

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looking around, Hey, let's look for footprints. And we're looking

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around and we do see some things that look like

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big prints. One of them was like looked like a

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smaller footprint, but it definitely looked like a footprint. I

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don't know. It's dusty, so nothing not like in the

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mud or nothing. But there's just a lot of prints around.

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This thought that was interesting. So while we're walking through here,

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I came across this little wooded area that had some

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saplings that were kind of like in a circle maybe

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five feet around, and inside this little circle of trees

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that were maybe three feet tall, I found an empty

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bag of chicken feed that was just out in the

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middle of the woods here on my family's property. It

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was empty, it didn't look torn into. It was in

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the these little saplings there. There's no way it got

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blown into there, Like it was totally enclosed. It looked

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like a little Heidi spot. There's no way it blew

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in there. I don't know how it got there. It

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wasn't ripped open like predators had gotten to it, I

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went and asked my aunt. Later on, I asked her,

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I was like, did you have you lost any bags?

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That she cause she does have chickens, but this is

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like way, this is a ways away from the house.

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I don't know how I got there. I just thought

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it was weird. And she said, no, it's I haven't

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been missing any bags at chicken feed. So I'm not

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sure whose it was or how I got there, but

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I just thought that was pretty weird. And then so

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we're walking through and we went out on for many

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walks through here, so this isn't just one walk. This

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is like multiple times we're going out and we go

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a little farther and farther. And one time we were

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walking out there and my little dog, she loves going

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for walks. You let her go, she'll just go and go.

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We have to mentionally be like, all right, let's go back,

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and she's very reluctant. One time we were walking through

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and we were coming up on one of the silver

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mines and my dog just planted down, sat down, and

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she would not move. She did not want to keep

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following us, and we're trying to we want to go

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explore the mind just the entrance. I'm not trying to

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go inside it. But she she would not follow us,

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and I just thought it was so weird. I kept

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trying to call her, and she just she wasn't having it.

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And then she started walking back towards the house. And

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it's just it's not like her to do that. She's

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she loves to explore, and I thought it was really

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weird that she wouldn't follow us, didn't want nothing to

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do with it. She wanted to leave. So I don't

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know if she could smell something that we couldn't or what,

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but we took her follow and lead, and so we

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went back home. You kind of got to listen to

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your animals sometimes, you know what I mean. And so

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on all these little kind of treks into the woods,

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we would hear like bumping on the ground. It wasn't

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something that was like audible as much as something you

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could barely hear, but it would sound. So there's deer

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and elk on the property. It could have been that,

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But just randomly we'd be walking through and we'd stop

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and we'd kind of listen because we're I love research

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on Bigfoot and listening to podcasts, so I'm gonna take

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mykain out there and do a little my own research

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if I can. And so we'd stop and we'd listen

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and we'd look, and I'd be hearing these like random

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thumps on almost like something to jumping out of a

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tree and hitting the ground and running. And it was

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it was very odd, and it happened a lot. Happened

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the whole time we were there. I would be hearing this.

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And also when we were we'd be walking through and

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there's these from these silver mines. There'd be these huge

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mounds that were just huge piles of stuff removed from

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these mines, tailings, I guess you'd call them. And so

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they're all throughout the property, and on these hills, it's

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kind of like the tailings make these little bluffs that

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kind of go out and then they're like straight down

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and these huge mounds, I mean like hundreds of feet

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tall now maybe one hundreds, like maybe seventy five feet tall,

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pretty significant little hills. And so we'd be climbing up

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and over these and we'd get back farther and we'd

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be stopping and listening, and we get to the top

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of this one little hill that it wasn't a tailing hill,

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but it was we'd be climbing over those and we

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got to the top of this hill and on the

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top there was these rocks that were I don't know,

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maybe they're about one hundred pounds roughly. And it was

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really weird because at the top of this hill, these

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rocks looked like they had been like moved like ever

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so slightly. They were just they weren't in place. They

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weren't like you could see where the rock was and

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then you could clearly see the divot where the rock

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would be, and they were moved maybe like an inch

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or two. And I just thought it was really weird.

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They weren't flipped over anything, but they were obviously moved.

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I don't know what I mean, what would be doing

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on top of that hill and moving these rocks on

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private property? I thought that was very odd. And let's see.

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And also on our walks, my girlfriend did say one

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time she thought she so I would always be getting

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ahead of her. I walk fast, I'm exploring, and she

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was maybe a couple hundred feet behind me, and she

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kept trying to get my attention because I was like

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walking too far ahead and she was getting worried. She was,

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and she said that she had seen something fluffy that

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looked like a tree, and she was trying to get

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my attention, and by the time she looked back after

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getting my attention, it was whatever it was gone. I

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don't know if she said it was like poking out

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behind a tree or she said it was fluffy and

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looked like a tree. Then after that she got scared

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and she wanted to go back. And all in these

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little areas too, there's these divots on the hillside, these

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where they would test for these minds tested. They dig

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down like these little maybe five foot deep, maybe fifteen

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foot around, these little kind of divots in the ground

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on these on the hillsides, just spanning the this whole hill,

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and inside these little divots there's deadfall everywhere. I don't

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know how this stuff got in, but it looked like

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little spots that would just hang out and lay down.

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It could be bedding areas possibly, I don't know. It

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was just these It looked really worn down, squished, kind

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of just old branches and stuff in a couple of

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the spots, and something could just be crouched down in

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there or hiding and you wouldn't even see them. Until

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you get right up in this thing. As it goes on,

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are just seeing more interesting things. And one night we decided,

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so there's some ponds at the bottom by the road,

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that dirt road, the private road that comes in and

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it goes up the held into my family's property. At

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the bottom, there's a stream, and then there's like a

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pond on one side of our private drive, and then

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it goes underneath the road, and then there's another pond

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maybe one hundred feet down in the woods there. And

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so we decided to go sit up on some of

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these rocks that were up the hill a little ways,

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like maybe a few hundred feet up the hill, and

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just sit there during dusk and listen and see what

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we could hear. And we were sitting there one night

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for about forty five minutes, and then it was starting

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to get darker and darker until you could it was

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still dusk. It wasn't dark, but you could see everything

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starting to blend together a little. It's gray colored. And

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we started hearing something down at the bottom of the road,

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sound like something it's kind of like a dirt ely road,

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like you can hear crunching sounds if you're walking on it,

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and we could hear something down at the bottom there

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by the ponds by the road. It could have been

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an animal or whatever, but we start. I had seen

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something coming up the gravel road and it was too

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dark to really tell what it was. It looked tall,

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but that could have been from the perspective of us

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looking down. It looked grayish colored. Not sure what it was.

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But we're sitting there listening and watching this thing, and

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we decided to take off. I didn't the thing's just

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mosing around there, and I'm just like, yeah, I don't

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feel like having a close encounter with nothing. So we

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went back home. And so the whole time, we're staying

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for about a month there at my cousin's place in

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the property, so the spot that's closer to the ponds,

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and there is a house down on the main road

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there that's close to my cousin's house right there, because

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the road comes up and it's a private road, so

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occasionally there's like a house on the right or left,

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and I think there's one farther up. There's one last

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property way up the road, maybe about a mile up

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the road, and so my cousin's property, my uncle's property.

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It's one of the last few houses on this road,

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and so in the backyard there, I was staying in

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the basement. It's like a three story house. There's a

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big tailings pile off to the side of the house.

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There's a The house is a three story, but the

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front of it is at the second story, and it's

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on a hill, so the backyard kind of levels out

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for a little bit where there's grass and stuff. And

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I was staying in the basement there, and there's windows

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all along this basement, big slider door, so it's very

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you can see the whole backyard from inside this place.

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So that's where I was staying. Was I had the

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whole basement to ourselves, and it was really weird because

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you could smell like us. Every once in a while,

463
00:24:49.240 --> 00:24:52.359
if you were standing out on the back porch, you

464
00:24:52.400 --> 00:24:56.920
get these random what smells like sewer, just randomly. I

465
00:24:56.960 --> 00:25:01.440
know their property is on septic, but usually it was

466
00:25:01.599 --> 00:25:03.839
usually closed up. I'm not going to really smell that

467
00:25:04.440 --> 00:25:07.519
from what I've seen. I've never and I'd stayed there

468
00:25:07.559 --> 00:25:10.680
before for a few years, going there multiple times a year,

469
00:25:10.720 --> 00:25:14.680
and I'd never smelled any sewer smells from their septic

470
00:25:14.720 --> 00:25:18.119
systems or anything like that. But this year it kept smelling.

471
00:25:18.519 --> 00:25:20.720
We'd both smell this, we get wafts of it, and

472
00:25:20.759 --> 00:25:23.799
it was just punging it. It did not smell good.

473
00:25:24.640 --> 00:25:28.279
I'm not sure with what that was, but that was

474
00:25:28.319 --> 00:25:34.359
another thing we experienced, and so we started we kind

475
00:25:34.359 --> 00:25:37.359
of just had we're kind of looking around, just trying

476
00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:39.839
to see what we can see. And so what we'd

477
00:25:39.839 --> 00:25:42.319
do is at night time, we'd go in the backyard

478
00:25:42.720 --> 00:25:45.680
and we'd set up some chairs by the back door

479
00:25:46.759 --> 00:25:49.759
and we'd just sit there and just enjoy the night

480
00:25:50.200 --> 00:25:52.119
and let's see what we could hear. And we'd just

481
00:25:52.160 --> 00:25:55.759
sit there quietly and there's no car noises, there's I mean,

482
00:25:55.799 --> 00:25:58.720
it's just dead quiet out there. You can hear crickets

483
00:25:58.759 --> 00:26:02.920
and whatnot, but it's just so peaceful going from the

484
00:26:02.960 --> 00:26:05.160
city to this. Just sit up there at night and

485
00:26:05.240 --> 00:26:07.440
listen to see what we could see, what we could hear.

486
00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:11.720
Open for an experience. So we were in the backyard

487
00:26:11.799 --> 00:26:15.920
and every once in a while to hear movements and

488
00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:19.440
you hear something scuffling around, or it's pretty some of

489
00:26:19.440 --> 00:26:22.039
the areas it's really rocky and dirt from these tailings,

490
00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:24.960
so you could hear something going through that. But a

491
00:26:24.960 --> 00:26:27.920
lot of it's like pine needles from all the pine

492
00:26:27.960 --> 00:26:31.400
trees and the lodge poles, so it's pretty soft ground

493
00:26:31.440 --> 00:26:33.200
on a lot of the spots. But every once in

494
00:26:33.240 --> 00:26:36.200
a while you heard something scuffling around. We'd sit there

495
00:26:36.200 --> 00:26:39.079
and we'd start seeing like eye shine up on the

496
00:26:39.079 --> 00:26:43.799
tailings pile. We just I'm just sitting there, just watching

497
00:26:43.839 --> 00:26:47.640
this these this eye shine. There is deer on the property,

498
00:26:47.960 --> 00:26:52.000
so at this point could be deer. I'm not seeing

499
00:26:52.039 --> 00:26:55.160
everything's bigfoot. I'm just seeing what I could see. And

500
00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:58.240
we saw eye shine. My girlfriend one night, she got

501
00:26:58.279 --> 00:27:01.640
tired of sitting out there at me going inside, and

502
00:27:01.680 --> 00:27:04.000
so I was sitting out there and I heard something

503
00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:07.759
large run across the property and go up into the

504
00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:10.160
tailing like at to the top of the tailings pilots

505
00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:13.359
on the side of the house. And I told her,

506
00:27:13.359 --> 00:27:14.920
I'm like, get out here, get out here, you get

507
00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:18.440
you get it. There's something out here. I don't know

508
00:27:18.480 --> 00:27:21.119
what it was, but I could see eye shine. It

509
00:27:21.160 --> 00:27:25.559
was almost like a whitish eye shine. It was kind

510
00:27:25.559 --> 00:27:29.319
of like it wasn't light, wasn't there was no it

511
00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:32.920
wasn't red or anything. Weird, but it was just kind

512
00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:35.359
of a like a white colored, kind of a really

513
00:27:35.400 --> 00:27:39.720
bright white. We saw one up on the side of

514
00:27:39.759 --> 00:27:42.359
the tailings pile, and then also to the other side

515
00:27:42.359 --> 00:27:44.319
of the house. I was seeing some eye shine that

516
00:27:44.400 --> 00:27:48.160
the take it was kept peeking behind the tree and blinking.

517
00:27:49.039 --> 00:27:52.000
So another one of the nights I would go out there,

518
00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:54.119
I'd have a big spotlight, and this whole most of

519
00:27:54.119 --> 00:27:55.960
the time I would just go sit out in the

520
00:27:56.039 --> 00:27:58.559
dark and not shine a light. I want if there

521
00:27:58.599 --> 00:28:01.119
is something out there, I wanted to cut and check

522
00:28:01.200 --> 00:28:05.000
us out. We got light. There's it's a big foot

523
00:28:05.039 --> 00:28:07.880
TV for them if they want, they can watch us.

524
00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:11.880
There's windows everywhere that it might be interesting for them.

525
00:28:12.119 --> 00:28:15.079
But so one night I decided to use a spotlight.

526
00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:18.359
We got a spotlight for whatever. I don't know if

527
00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:21.640
they use it for hunting or just on the property.

528
00:28:21.680 --> 00:28:25.759
And it's a big spotlight. So I'm spotlighting around and

529
00:28:25.799 --> 00:28:28.200
I'm up on the back deck up on the second story,

530
00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:32.240
so over where I usually sit, and I'm shining the

531
00:28:32.240 --> 00:28:36.400
spotlight down from above, and I shine to the left

532
00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:38.440
of the house and there's kind of like a little

533
00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:42.400
tree line over there, some trees that are ten feet tall,

534
00:28:42.519 --> 00:28:45.880
some that are forty fifty feet tall. It's kind of

535
00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:48.200
like a little group of trees along the side over there,

536
00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:51.599
and I'm shining the light on the left side of

537
00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:54.720
the house. And it was really weird because this light

538
00:28:54.799 --> 00:28:58.240
is so bright, You're gonna light up whatever's over there.

539
00:28:58.680 --> 00:29:01.400
You're gonna see a tree, it's gonna of the so

540
00:29:01.559 --> 00:29:03.400
right in this little group of trees. It was so

541
00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:06.319
weird because I would shine the light over there and

542
00:29:06.359 --> 00:29:09.440
it's i don't know, maybe seventy five feet away, and

543
00:29:09.559 --> 00:29:13.200
there was this one spot that was it was like

544
00:29:13.279 --> 00:29:15.920
a shadow, right. It was really dark. It was it

545
00:29:16.000 --> 00:29:19.640
was black, like black as black could be. And I'm

546
00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:23.759
shining the light at it. And it's not it's all trees.

547
00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:28.440
There's everything is green lit up. But this one spot

548
00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:32.599
that was like right behind one of the trees, it

549
00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:36.000
was like this shadow and it I'm pointed the lights

550
00:29:36.039 --> 00:29:38.599
pointed directly at these trees. I could see if the

551
00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:41.319
light was someone was shining the light twenty feet to

552
00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:43.440
my right and they were pointing at the tree that

553
00:29:43.519 --> 00:29:46.200
you'd see a shadow on the tree behind it. But

554
00:29:46.240 --> 00:29:48.920
I'm pointing this light directly at these trees. I shouldn't

555
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:52.880
see any shadows. There's this fit looks like a figure,

556
00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:57.680
I don't know, maybe nine feet tall, and it's a

557
00:29:58.559 --> 00:30:01.839
it's a shadow. And no, I didn't see any eyes.

558
00:30:01.880 --> 00:30:05.200
I didn't. It just looked black. It didn't. It wasn't

559
00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:08.480
like I could see something in the hair or or anything.

560
00:30:08.519 --> 00:30:12.599
It was just like pitch black. And it was a

561
00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:15.559
figure that was like standing behind one of the trees.

562
00:30:16.119 --> 00:30:19.160
It was just like halfway out behind the tree, and

563
00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:21.200
there's another tree behind it, so you could see the

564
00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:24.200
color of each tree. And but then there's this black

565
00:30:24.400 --> 00:30:27.039
kind of figure that's halfway out and it was and

566
00:30:27.160 --> 00:30:28.799
I'm standing there and I'm shying it. I'm not going

567
00:30:28.880 --> 00:30:31.440
to go look over there. I'm I'm too too much

568
00:30:31.480 --> 00:30:34.640
with a scaredy cat to be approaching anything at night

569
00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:38.960
in the woods in Montana. So I would just eventually

570
00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:44.279
I just turned it off and walked away. Okay, all right,

571
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:51.319
I just thought that was pretty creepy. Let's see. So,

572
00:30:51.319 --> 00:30:56.640
so here's a part that happens where this was very significant,

573
00:30:56.799 --> 00:30:59.759
A little event that happened. So it was in the

574
00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:02.319
the the night we just got back from going to

575
00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:06.359
the hot springs in Montana. They got these broadwater hot

576
00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:10.160
springs in Helena, Montana. And so I think we got

577
00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:15.440
back there maybe midnight, eleven twelve o'clock, and there we

578
00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:18.680
were had been drinking and we were arguing, and we

579
00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:23.079
got a little fight, and she just she's like, I'm

580
00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:25.839
going for a walk. And she's already dressed up, ready

581
00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:27.839
to go for a walk. And I'm like, whatever, just

582
00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:31.160
get out of here. And I saw I'm she left

583
00:31:31.319 --> 00:31:32.799
and it's the middle of the night. She didn't have

584
00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:36.759
a flashlight. She I'm like, whatever, I'll just let her go.

585
00:31:36.759 --> 00:31:40.240
I don't want to fight with her anymore. And you know,

586
00:31:40.279 --> 00:31:44.680
after like maybe a minute, I was like, eh, maybe

587
00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:47.279
I shouldn't let her go wander around in the middle

588
00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:49.359
of the night. After I'm we've had these kind of

589
00:31:49.400 --> 00:31:53.839
weird things happening, the bear stuff. I'm just a little concerned.

590
00:31:53.920 --> 00:31:55.559
I still care about it, even if we're in a fight.

591
00:31:56.359 --> 00:31:58.920
So I get dressed, put on my boots. I grabbed

592
00:31:58.920 --> 00:32:02.599
the gun. I grab I got these little flashlights, you know,

593
00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:06.240
like a four thousand lumen little ace beam flash light

594
00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:09.079
super bay. I'm like, okay, I got a gun, I

595
00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:10.839
got a light. I'm not worried about going out in

596
00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:14.640
the woods. I'm still on guard, and so I so

597
00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:19.599
in between my cousin's house. So the main road comes

598
00:32:19.680 --> 00:32:21.759
up the hill right, it goes up and it wraps

599
00:32:21.799 --> 00:32:24.720
around to the right, our main private drive, and then

600
00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:27.359
it kind of goes up and then wraps around back

601
00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:29.240
to the left and comes up to my uncle's property.

602
00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:33.240
Lame between my uncle's property and my cousin Aaron's, there's

603
00:32:33.440 --> 00:32:36.240
a little cut through that goes through the woods, and

604
00:32:36.319 --> 00:32:39.559
there may be a few hundred yards apart, a few

605
00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:43.039
hundred yards, i'd say, and so that you can't see

606
00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:45.359
one house from the other. You can't see if you're

607
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:47.119
at any of the three houses, you can't see the

608
00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:50.160
other house. They're that far enough away where you're walking

609
00:32:50.200 --> 00:32:53.400
through these woods. There's a little trail, little road that

610
00:32:53.480 --> 00:32:55.359
you can drive your car down or a four wheeler

611
00:32:55.559 --> 00:32:58.720
that kind of cuts through from his house to their house.

612
00:32:59.839 --> 00:33:02.119
And then so it's kind of like forms a little

613
00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:05.359
triangle from the main road to where you turn off

614
00:33:05.359 --> 00:33:07.039
the main road to go to my cousin Eron's, and

615
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:09.079
then it cuts through to go back to that road

616
00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:12.079
that goes to my uncles and so I go out,

617
00:33:12.839 --> 00:33:15.480
and she liked the pond. And there's a little this

618
00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:18.279
old down by the pond. There's like a it's like

619
00:33:18.319 --> 00:33:21.240
an old piece of silver mine equipment, like where they

620
00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:23.359
like a smelter kind of thing that's up in this

621
00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:26.759
little rocky area down by the ponds. And it's just

622
00:33:26.880 --> 00:33:29.720
right off the road going down from the ponds. And

623
00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:33.279
so I I come out of my cousin's place, I

624
00:33:33.359 --> 00:33:35.319
instead of going up to my uncle's I take a

625
00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:37.480
left to go back down to the main private drive

626
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:39.359
that goes down and then you can take a left

627
00:33:39.400 --> 00:33:40.720
and go to that down to the bottom of the

628
00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:42.200
hell by the ponds, or you can take a right

629
00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:44.720
and go up to my uncle's house. And so I

630
00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:47.799
go down and she don't got a flashlight, so I

631
00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:50.359
don't know where she's at. But I'm walking down. I

632
00:33:50.400 --> 00:33:53.160
take a left and I'm like halfway down to the ponds,

633
00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:56.880
and I just I'm just like, yeah, I don't think

634
00:33:56.920 --> 00:33:59.359
she went down this way. I can almost see the bottom,

635
00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:01.880
and I'm like, yeah, I don't think she's down this way.

636
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:03.839
So I turn around. Plus I didn't want to feel

637
00:34:03.880 --> 00:34:05.880
like going down to the ponds at night. I just

638
00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:10.280
didn't feel right, it's too spooky, and so'm I go,

639
00:34:10.400 --> 00:34:12.599
I turn around, I'm going back up, and I just

640
00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:15.320
go along the main drive up to my uncle's place.

641
00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:18.599
And I walk all the way up and I get

642
00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:23.039
to the back of the kind of housing property area

643
00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:26.079
where they got like the chickens and the little cabin,

644
00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:29.400
and I don't see her back there. So I turn

645
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:33.840
around and I'm coming back and I'm cutting through the

646
00:34:33.880 --> 00:34:36.039
little cut through to go down to my cousin's house.

647
00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:42.400
And there's a little some rocks with our name on

648
00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:45.519
the rocks, like a little piece of metal carved out,

649
00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:49.239
and I see her crouch down. I come up on her.

650
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:52.320
She's crouched down with her knife out and she's shaking

651
00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:56.559
like a leaf, and I'm like, what is What's wrong?

652
00:34:56.760 --> 00:35:02.159
Like something was following me. And so in the little area,

653
00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:06.119
this little triangle area that of woods that see between

654
00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:08.320
the roads and stuff, she said something was back in

655
00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:11.679
there and it was following her while she was walking.

656
00:35:12.440 --> 00:35:15.239
She had she was going up to my uncle's house,

657
00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:18.880
and she said that there was something in there that

658
00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:22.880
was like her, like following her in the bush in

659
00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:28.519
the trees, and she could hear it, and she got scared,

660
00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:30.480
and she just went over by that rock, crouched down

661
00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:32.760
and had her knife out, was waiting for if this

662
00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:34.320
thing's going to try to get her. I found her.

663
00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:36.480
I'm like, all right, let's just get back home. Let's

664
00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:40.559
get back to my cousin's house. And so from where

665
00:35:40.559 --> 00:35:43.960
she was crouched down over to my cousins is maybe

666
00:35:43.960 --> 00:35:49.599
one hundred yards. So we're walking down through his through

667
00:35:49.599 --> 00:35:51.760
his road, and we get back and we get to

668
00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:53.719
hit where his house is, and we cut down to

669
00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:55.639
the right and it goes down this little hill to

670
00:35:55.679 --> 00:35:58.679
the back of the yard. And I got the gun

671
00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:02.480
on me. I got it in my hand, and I'm

672
00:36:02.519 --> 00:36:05.119
in the backyard and I'm like in a little grassy area,

673
00:36:06.280 --> 00:36:08.760
and so I'm standing there, and she said something was

674
00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:10.440
following her. So I stand there, and we had already

675
00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:12.599
been sitting out there at night listening, and so I'm

676
00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:15.400
just I just stand there. And she's back on the

677
00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:18.840
porch a little bit, the back downstairs porch, and I'm

678
00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:22.519
standing there listening, and all of a sudden, I hear

679
00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:27.000
two knocks. That's like on our property, not very far away,

680
00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:32.519
like within a stone store, like I maybe a couple

681
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:35.639
hundred feet away, not very far. We hear two knocks,

682
00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:41.000
and it sounded like it wasn't like a deep knock sound.

683
00:36:41.039 --> 00:36:43.360
It sounded like a very if you ever hear those

684
00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:46.599
like musical instruments where it hit two pieces of clean

685
00:36:46.639 --> 00:36:51.760
wood together and it's very sharp noise. It wasn't. And

686
00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:55.800
this is there ain't nobody my cousin's that it's there

687
00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:58.239
in bed. It's in the middle of the night. There's

688
00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:03.440
not any thing. There's nobody with this property here, there's it.

689
00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:07.320
Just so I hear these two knocks, and I'm like,

690
00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:10.400
what the of course I know to knock bigfoot knocks.

691
00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:12.199
Of course I know, you know what I mean. And

692
00:37:12.239 --> 00:37:14.960
I hear this, and so I'm like, no way, get

693
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:18.760
out of here. Is this really happening? And so I'm like, okay,

694
00:37:18.760 --> 00:37:20.199
So I go down and I sit down in the

695
00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:23.719
chair to listen more. And so I'm sitting there listening,

696
00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:30.239
and maybe thirty yards away from me, not even maybe

697
00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:34.079
twenty twenty yards away, I hear something that sounds like

698
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:38.360
something walking on two feet walking across there's a little

699
00:37:38.639 --> 00:37:41.639
some gravel over by the there's a little swing set

700
00:37:41.920 --> 00:37:44.840
kind of thing that's strung up between the trees like

701
00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:48.719
a little swing and a little for the kids, and

702
00:37:48.719 --> 00:37:51.400
it's kind of like a little rocky little slope that

703
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:53.440
goes down you can drive your four wheeler up. And

704
00:37:54.039 --> 00:37:58.039
I hear something walking past that part right there towards us,

705
00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:01.679
like walking straight towards us, and I could hear it

706
00:38:01.719 --> 00:38:04.800
clear as day. It's something walking on two feet. I

707
00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:07.280
jump up and i'd run back over by the door

708
00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:10.719
because I wasn't expecting something to approach me, but even

709
00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:12.360
with a gun in my hand. And I don't know

710
00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:17.760
if it if maybe our fighting because we were fighting

711
00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:20.239
and when I had a gun in my hand, and

712
00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:23.519
I don't know if that kind of maybe amped him

713
00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:26.760
up and that's why it knocked and approached. I don't know.

714
00:38:26.840 --> 00:38:31.199
I don't know why all of a sudden, this whatever

715
00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:36.679
it was making itself more announced that was So I

716
00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:38.960
put the gun inside. But I'm not trying to piss

717
00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:41.639
something off. If that's what it was. I put the

718
00:38:41.639 --> 00:38:43.840
gun away because I've listened to so many stories and

719
00:38:43.960 --> 00:38:47.679
I know that they probably know what guns are. So

720
00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:50.599
I put the gun back inside the house. I come

721
00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:54.000
back out and we're standing there listening, and I don't

722
00:38:54.039 --> 00:38:57.280
think we heard anything after that, I think we stood

723
00:38:57.280 --> 00:38:59.519
out there for a little while a while longer, but

724
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:06.000
eventually we lost interest and went back inside. So that

725
00:39:06.199 --> 00:39:09.639
was a very interesting thing that happened. There ain't nothing

726
00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:11.599
out there in the woods that's going to make that noise,

727
00:39:11.760 --> 00:39:15.400
a knocking sound, two knocks. That was very profound for

728
00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:20.000
me that if what we're hearing might be something that that.

729
00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:23.679
This was pretty significant to me for having this experience.

730
00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:29.559
Let's see. So after that, the next day, I was like, Okay,

731
00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:32.280
if there is something out there, maybe I'll leave it

732
00:39:32.360 --> 00:39:35.639
some gifts. So I over by the back of the tailingspile.

733
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:41.639
I went and I left like some dried fruit, like

734
00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:45.159
little mango pieces, and I had this little I had.

735
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:47.800
There was some like costume jewelry I left out there.

736
00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:50.280
Maybe they'd think it's cool. I don't know, just a

737
00:39:50.280 --> 00:39:53.119
little whatever, trying to see if something would move it

738
00:39:53.239 --> 00:39:57.039
or take it. So I went out there the next day,

739
00:39:57.840 --> 00:40:00.079
went over there. I checked it out. Nothing was mo

740
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:04.039
nothing was eaten. So I'm coming back from so let

741
00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:06.000
me describe the back of this property a little better.

742
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:09.880
So it's a little flat grassy area that it's from

743
00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:11.920
when they built the house that they want to put

744
00:40:11.920 --> 00:40:15.360
a little grassy backyard in. And then from the grassy part,

745
00:40:15.760 --> 00:40:20.000
it starts sloping down into the the natural trees. The

746
00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:22.800
natural ground slopes down a little bit and it goes

747
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:26.639
back for maybe forty yards, and then at the back

748
00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:28.679
the edge here that kind of goes all along the

749
00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:32.320
back it all of a sudden, it's a very significant

750
00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:36.119
drop off where it's maybe forty five degrees going downhill,

751
00:40:36.599 --> 00:40:39.480
so it's it's not really so much a ledge, but

752
00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:41.760
it just all of a sudden goes from slow slope

753
00:40:41.800 --> 00:40:45.719
to just goes down and it goes down for a

754
00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:49.079
few hundred feet and then it levels back out right

755
00:40:49.119 --> 00:40:51.440
before the roads in the pond, and there's another house

756
00:40:51.920 --> 00:40:56.559
down there. So I'm coming back from checking the spot.

757
00:40:57.320 --> 00:41:00.159
There's some rocks right right on the edge where it

758
00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:04.760
goes from the slight slope down to the where the

759
00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:09.000
steep slope. There's out rocky outcroppings along the edge. And

760
00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:12.840
so I'm coming back from looking at this spot and

761
00:41:12.920 --> 00:41:15.320
I'm taking a pee. I'm just out there taking a

762
00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:20.360
p and I'm looking just kind of staring and right

763
00:41:20.400 --> 00:41:24.840
at these little rocky outcropping. I'm sitting there and I'm

764
00:41:24.880 --> 00:41:29.119
staring and I see something that looked and the sun

765
00:41:29.239 --> 00:41:32.400
was behind it. You could see kind of like sunlight.

766
00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:37.159
It was something hairy. It was wide, poking up from

767
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:40.840
behind the rocks. That was I don't know, maybe a

768
00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:45.400
foot above the rocks, and it was about four feet wide,

769
00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:47.679
and it was kind of like at the edge of

770
00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:50.320
the rocks. I couldn't see on the right side of

771
00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:52.039
the rock, I couldn't see anything, but it was just

772
00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:55.360
right almost lined up with the rocks, and it was

773
00:41:55.400 --> 00:42:00.000
about four feet above and it slowly and I could

774
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:02.679
see that it was hair. You can see that it was.

775
00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:05.800
The light was coming behind it. You could almost see

776
00:42:05.840 --> 00:42:09.440
the skin underneath the hair. You could see where the

777
00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:12.559
hair met whatever flesh this was. But it was an animal.

778
00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:15.559
I don't know what it was. I'm thinking it was

779
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:20.039
maybe a big foot. But it slowly went down behind

780
00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:24.519
the rocks, like just very slowly. It was trying not

781
00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:27.760
to be fast or move or be seen maybe, but

782
00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:31.480
it slowly. I didn't see a head. It looked more

783
00:42:31.559 --> 00:42:34.800
like a I don't know if it was like a

784
00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:38.719
shoulder or it just slowly went down behind the rocks

785
00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:43.400
and I'm I go walk. So when I started walking,

786
00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:46.639
over towards there. I want to go see what this was, right,

787
00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:49.400
So I go down and so in the front of

788
00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:52.199
the rocks is maybe about four feet high, but it's

789
00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:53.800
right before the hill. So if you go on the

790
00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:56.079
other side of the rock where this thing was, it's

791
00:42:56.239 --> 00:42:59.559
about ten feet down from the back of this rock.

792
00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:02.519
So I go and I'm like trying to loop around it.

793
00:43:02.519 --> 00:43:03.719
I don't want to get close to the rock. I

794
00:43:03.760 --> 00:43:06.199
don't know what it is. So I'm going and I

795
00:43:06.239 --> 00:43:09.039
try to look behind the rocks. I go back. I

796
00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:11.159
grab my girlfriend. I'm like, dude, I've just seen something

797
00:43:11.199 --> 00:43:15.679
back here. I didn't, honestly, I was speaked out. I

798
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:17.719
know what it was. I didn't really want to be

799
00:43:17.800 --> 00:43:21.760
climbing down this hill, and so I go back and

800
00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:23.760
I get hurt. We go down and we look at it,

801
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:28.320
and right around the back of the rock there was

802
00:43:28.360 --> 00:43:30.360
nothing there by the time we got to this point,

803
00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:33.000
but at the back the base of the rock, you

804
00:43:33.039 --> 00:43:36.599
could see where something really heavy had stepped like the

805
00:43:36.639 --> 00:43:41.679
ground was disturbed. It was like, so whatever was coming

806
00:43:41.719 --> 00:43:43.719
down from behind this rock, that was behind the rock

807
00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:47.440
had stepped up into this the like pine needles and stuff.

808
00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:50.199
It was like the imprint was like pressed down into

809
00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:55.119
the ground by like probably six inches. And I don't

810
00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:58.639
know what it was, but after all these experiences the knock,

811
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:03.239
I can only make a guess here. I think what

812
00:44:03.320 --> 00:44:07.440
I saw was a bigfoot. It was very alarming to

813
00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:09.920
see whatever this was. It was large that was behind

814
00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:15.199
this rock. Yeah, So that was my experience that I

815
00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:18.679
had there. So I talked to my uncle who's on

816
00:44:18.760 --> 00:44:24.159
the property, and I asked him, Hey, he was a logger,

817
00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:26.679
so he'd been out in the woods a lot, and

818
00:44:26.719 --> 00:44:28.599
I asked him, I said, have you ever had any

819
00:44:28.679 --> 00:44:31.360
experiences out here? Do you ever see anything? Have you ever?

820
00:44:31.519 --> 00:44:34.360
He said, no, that's it's not real. Well, but our

821
00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:36.199
neighbor at the bottom of the hill said he'd seen

822
00:44:36.239 --> 00:44:40.599
one before, and that was not the year that this happened.

823
00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:42.360
That when I asked him that that was the year

824
00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:46.360
before when I had asked him about bigfoot, and he

825
00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:48.320
had said that the neighbor at the bottom of the hill,

826
00:44:48.920 --> 00:44:52.079
the one down by the ponds, had seen one. And

827
00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:54.960
so when I after I had this experience, I asked

828
00:44:55.039 --> 00:44:57.639
him about it. I said, Hey, I'm telling my family

829
00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:00.519
I'd seen some weird stuff. We heard weird knocks. I

830
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:05.840
just wanted to tell them, and they were very dismissive. They, oh, yeah, sure,

831
00:45:05.880 --> 00:45:08.719
it's very dismissive. And then when I asked my mouchacle,

832
00:45:08.760 --> 00:45:10.800
I said, well, didn't you say the neighbor had seen one?

833
00:45:11.119 --> 00:45:13.880
He said, what, I never said that. He plat out said,

834
00:45:13.920 --> 00:45:15.800
he never said that. I'm like, why would it be

835
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:19.440
asking you about the neighbor that you said saw one

836
00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:23.599
if you didn't tell me that, like clearly, so very dismissive.

837
00:45:23.639 --> 00:45:26.440
And then said that, oh he never said that. Well,

838
00:45:26.519 --> 00:45:29.000
these people live out there, my family, they live out

839
00:45:29.039 --> 00:45:32.280
there twenty four to seven. They're busy doing their everyday life.

840
00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:36.320
They're not looking for anything, they're not listening for anything.

841
00:45:36.360 --> 00:45:39.960
They just go about their lives. And I think more

842
00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:44.840
stuff goes on in these woods than you really know

843
00:45:44.880 --> 00:45:49.039
about if you're not actually actively looking or listening. I

844
00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:51.559
think there's a lot of things that you wouldn't notice.

845
00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:54.960
And I know I talked to my cousin's wife and

846
00:45:55.000 --> 00:45:57.239
I told her about what I had what I had seen,

847
00:45:57.480 --> 00:46:00.960
because she's got two little kids. You'd be very concerned

848
00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:03.519
if there was some creature, which I know for a fact,

849
00:46:03.599 --> 00:46:06.480
whatever that was behind that rock, was some kind of creature.

850
00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:12.639
It was hair, it moved, it was one something wasn't

851
00:46:12.639 --> 00:46:15.679
my imagination. She was very concerned when I told her

852
00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:20.000
about this. She was the only one that had frightened

853
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:22.800
to look on her face. I don't know, maybe if

854
00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:26.079
she's had her own experience living there, because she's a

855
00:46:26.119 --> 00:46:28.760
stay at home mom, works from home. She's the home

856
00:46:28.800 --> 00:46:30.840
most of to day. My cousin goes to work every day,

857
00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:34.480
So I don't know, maybe she's had something happen, because

858
00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:37.039
she looks pretty upset when I told her about this.

859
00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:42.920
So my cousin's friend, my cousin here and his friend Garrett.

860
00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:44.760
He goes honey a lot. He does a lot of

861
00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:48.760
he collects firewood and sells it, and he's so I

862
00:46:48.840 --> 00:46:51.320
was talking to him. He came over for some salmon fishing.

863
00:46:51.920 --> 00:46:54.440
Him and his brother came over here to Seattle, and

864
00:46:54.519 --> 00:46:56.480
I took them out salmon fishing out in the sound

865
00:46:56.519 --> 00:46:59.760
and we caught a bunch of salmon this year. And

866
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:02.960
so I was talking to him and Hey, have you

867
00:47:03.000 --> 00:47:05.800
ever had any experience? Because I want to know if

868
00:47:05.800 --> 00:47:07.639
people live out in the woods, I want to know, Hey,

869
00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:10.119
have you seen anything where or what do you think,

870
00:47:11.000 --> 00:47:13.760
and so he said that when he has been hunting

871
00:47:13.880 --> 00:47:17.599
that he'll hear things like rockracking, like it sounds like

872
00:47:17.719 --> 00:47:20.599
rocks being hit together. So that was that's the only

873
00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:25.400
weird thing that he's ever experienced. But yeah, so those

874
00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:28.320
are my experiences I had out there. And now I

875
00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:31.199
didn't have a direct siting that I could say one

876
00:47:32.000 --> 00:47:35.119
sure that it was something, but it was enough for

877
00:47:35.199 --> 00:47:40.039
me to to say that I'm pretty sure I saw something.

878
00:47:41.440 --> 00:47:44.599
Wow neck And that was all within did you say

879
00:47:44.599 --> 00:47:45.079
one month?

880
00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:49.320
Yeah, so everything that happened in Montana, that was one

881
00:47:49.800 --> 00:47:50.719
month we were out there.

882
00:47:53.119 --> 00:47:56.360
Yeah, it's to me it's obvious that yet you guys

883
00:47:56.679 --> 00:48:00.400
were seeing something out there, you were experiencing something. You

884
00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:07.000
have everything from the nine foot dark creature behind the tree,

885
00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:10.519
your girlfriend experiencing a few things. Just the fact that

886
00:48:10.599 --> 00:48:14.400
she saw something I think you said, Fluffy that was

887
00:48:14.440 --> 00:48:17.159
either behind a tree or looked like a tree. Either

888
00:48:17.199 --> 00:48:20.760
one is reported within the community, right, like sometimes people

889
00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:23.920
see what they think is a stumper tree and then

890
00:48:24.119 --> 00:48:26.840
it turns out it was it was a bigfoot kind

891
00:48:26.880 --> 00:48:30.559
of camouflaging itself and then it disappears. And also her

892
00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:35.320
experience where I can't imagine what she went through emotionally,

893
00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:39.440
being out there by herself in a heightened state of

894
00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:44.000
emotion and then being followed by something and she's okay,

895
00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:47.199
I'm gonna take in the stand right now, my knife's out,

896
00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:52.960
I'm ready. My goodness, ooh why And then what you

897
00:48:53.039 --> 00:48:54.280
saw behind the rock?

898
00:48:54.400 --> 00:49:00.599
Right? So? Yeah, that was for me, that chasing with

899
00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:02.920
my own two eye something. I don't know what it was,

900
00:49:03.159 --> 00:49:06.079
but yeah, And this was right after I heard the

901
00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:08.960
two knocks right in our property right there. I think

902
00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:12.159
the I think what I saw like a visual but

903
00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:14.000
it wasn't like it was like standing out in the

904
00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:18.039
open or where I can be like, oh, that's a

905
00:49:18.079 --> 00:49:19.800
big foot, you know what I mean? These people have

906
00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:23.000
full on sightings where they can see the whole creature.

907
00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:25.760
This thing was hiding behind a rock, and it was

908
00:49:26.320 --> 00:49:29.920
being very sneaky and slowly lowered itself behind the rock

909
00:49:29.960 --> 00:49:33.159
to where I couldn't see it anymore. And the fact

910
00:49:33.159 --> 00:49:35.360
that I happened right after I heard those two knocks

911
00:49:35.400 --> 00:49:38.840
on the property, What am I supposed to believe? That's

912
00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:41.559
for me? I'm like, pretty sure I've seen a big.

913
00:49:41.440 --> 00:49:46.559
Foot also, I am my. The way I hear this story.

914
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:50.119
It sounds like yet other people have had things happen

915
00:49:50.199 --> 00:49:51.840
on that property and they're just not talking about it.

916
00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:55.920
That's what it sounds yeah to me. Yeah, are you

917
00:49:56.039 --> 00:49:57.519
and your girlfriend still together?

918
00:49:59.360 --> 00:49:59.559
Yes?

919
00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:02.679
We awesome? Is something you guys still talk about quite

920
00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:03.280
a bit.

921
00:50:03.239 --> 00:50:09.039
Or yeah, yeah, we talked about it class and thank goodness.

922
00:50:09.679 --> 00:50:11.440
Would you ever go back to that area?

923
00:50:13.159 --> 00:50:16.320
Oh yeah, yeah, we definitely will. We're going back out

924
00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:18.519
there here in two weeks and we go out there

925
00:50:18.519 --> 00:50:21.440
for a giving hunting trip and we'll probably be out

926
00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:22.400
there for another month.

927
00:50:24.920 --> 00:50:29.440
So now that you know the potential of what you're

928
00:50:29.480 --> 00:50:33.239
getting back into, because now you have all this information

929
00:50:33.280 --> 00:50:37.280
about Okay, we saw stuff, we experience things, how are

930
00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:41.199
you going to prepare for that potentially happening again?

931
00:50:41.360 --> 00:50:44.239
So now my head's just on a swivel. Twenty shot seven.

932
00:50:44.440 --> 00:50:47.760
It started with the whole bear thing and also that

933
00:50:48.239 --> 00:50:51.239
growl that we heard looking back, Oh, that's just that

934
00:50:51.320 --> 00:50:53.960
was a bear growl. Now I'm wondering what really growled

935
00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:57.079
at us when we were at those rocks. Was it

936
00:50:57.119 --> 00:51:00.880
a bear? Was it something else? I don't know. So

937
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:03.519
we went back out this summer because that was not

938
00:51:03.559 --> 00:51:05.760
this summer. But the summer before. So we went back

939
00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:08.199
out for another month this summer that we just had,

940
00:51:08.840 --> 00:51:11.320
and instead of seeing at my cousin's house, which is

941
00:51:11.320 --> 00:51:14.039
closer to the ponds, we stayed up at the little

942
00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:17.559
cabin that's like the farthest away from the ponds. And

943
00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:23.239
we didn't really have anything happened. There only one weird

944
00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:27.039
thing that happened because we were we'd listen and after

945
00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:30.159
our experiences we had had on a swivel, and so

946
00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:32.599
the only weird thing we have had happened is she

947
00:51:32.679 --> 00:51:35.719
went out to use the restroom. There's no outhouse, there's

948
00:51:35.719 --> 00:51:38.840
no bathroom in this little cabin right now. There's currently

949
00:51:38.880 --> 00:51:41.440
an addition being put on for a bathroom. I'm going

950
00:51:41.480 --> 00:51:43.679
to help finish probably when I go out there in

951
00:51:43.679 --> 00:51:46.880
two weeks. But she went outside to use the restroom,

952
00:51:47.320 --> 00:51:50.280
and she said that when she was going to the restroom,

953
00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:56.440
something like ran away from the building, like ran back

954
00:51:56.480 --> 00:51:59.079
towards there's like a little out as rocks it, but

955
00:51:59.159 --> 00:52:01.440
it was towards the back of the cabin. There was

956
00:52:01.480 --> 00:52:03.920
this little rock out cropping that it ran over towards.

957
00:52:03.920 --> 00:52:06.159
And I was like, oh, you heard something running away.

958
00:52:06.719 --> 00:52:09.079
So I went and grabbed a flashlight and I'm shying

959
00:52:09.119 --> 00:52:13.800
back there, and I seen eye shine, that bright eye shine,

960
00:52:14.079 --> 00:52:16.519
and I'm shying it there, and it was like peeking

961
00:52:16.599 --> 00:52:20.840
behind these walks and it was moving around. And then

962
00:52:21.079 --> 00:52:23.400
when it's a four thousand mine flash, I didn't seen

963
00:52:23.599 --> 00:52:26.920
bright so it would turn away from the light like

964
00:52:26.960 --> 00:52:29.599
it didn't like the bright light, and then it would

965
00:52:29.639 --> 00:52:32.000
move around. And I'm trying to see what this thing

966
00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:34.360
is because I'm alls I'm seeing is these the eye shine.

967
00:52:34.360 --> 00:52:37.400
I'm not seeing a figure or anything. But eventually it

968
00:52:38.320 --> 00:52:42.960
a deer stepped out. Later at one point and I'm like, oh,

969
00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:45.639
it was just a deer. I was like, oh, it's

970
00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:48.360
what what is that hiding behind the rocks? It was

971
00:52:48.400 --> 00:52:51.360
a deer. There's people that talk about skin walkers and

972
00:52:51.360 --> 00:52:54.039
all sorts of weird stuff, but you never know. But

973
00:52:54.239 --> 00:52:57.000
I she's like it was a skin wall I was like, no,

974
00:52:57.079 --> 00:53:00.239
it's just a deer. But I thought it was weird

975
00:53:00.239 --> 00:53:02.079
because at first it was looked like it was like

976
00:53:02.159 --> 00:53:05.239
hiding from us and moving along the rocks, and it

977
00:53:05.320 --> 00:53:07.760
was just weird. But then a deer stepped out and

978
00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:11.039
I was like, Oh, it was just a deer. I'm

979
00:53:11.639 --> 00:53:14.639
I like to look for things and hear for things,

980
00:53:14.679 --> 00:53:17.440
But I'm not the kind of person that's going to

981
00:53:17.519 --> 00:53:19.400
be like, oh, every last thing you hear or every

982
00:53:19.480 --> 00:53:21.960
last thing is going to be a big place. There's

983
00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:24.920
other foures out there, and so I'm very realistic in

984
00:53:24.960 --> 00:53:28.840
my expectations and I just go out with an open

985
00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:32.719
mind and see what I can see and take it

986
00:53:32.760 --> 00:53:36.079
all in. And with everything that happened to us that

987
00:53:36.159 --> 00:53:41.400
one summer, it's you can once is one thing twice

988
00:53:41.559 --> 00:53:43.880
three times. When things start adding up is when you

989
00:53:43.920 --> 00:53:47.480
start going, Okay, maybe there's some something really going on here.

990
00:53:48.280 --> 00:53:55.320
And yeah, after that month, did either of you start

991
00:53:55.360 --> 00:53:59.199
to experience things that were out there ordinary or unexpected,

992
00:53:59.400 --> 00:54:01.920
like when you went back to your home area.

993
00:54:03.360 --> 00:54:07.119
No, now we live. I live in Lynnwood. Every area

994
00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:12.840
it's the city here, there's not it's there's no woods here.

995
00:54:12.880 --> 00:54:15.280
There's maybe a couple of little parks around here, but no,

996
00:54:15.400 --> 00:54:17.400
it's we're in the city. When I'm here, I'm not

997
00:54:17.559 --> 00:54:21.480
like listening or focused on anything like that. I'm not

998
00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:24.599
expecting anything. I'm not so here. It's I just go

999
00:54:24.679 --> 00:54:28.840
about my daily life and there's people everywhere there. It's

1000
00:54:29.480 --> 00:54:32.000
even if there was. Even if there was any kind

1001
00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:34.760
of phenomenon going on, I probably wouldn't even.

1002
00:54:34.719 --> 00:54:41.679
Notice, gotcha conscience. You mentioned that you had been leaving

1003
00:54:41.760 --> 00:54:44.320
gifts out. Did you mention that you were getting anything

1004
00:54:44.320 --> 00:54:45.480
in return for those?

1005
00:54:47.559 --> 00:54:50.599
No? Oh, but when we were going on our walks,

1006
00:54:50.800 --> 00:54:53.760
I forgot to mention this. We were when we would

1007
00:54:53.760 --> 00:54:57.360
go on our little explorative walks to see what we

1008
00:54:57.400 --> 00:55:01.920
could see or look for evidence. We did get these feathers.

1009
00:55:02.039 --> 00:55:04.280
They looked like hawk feathers that were left on the

1010
00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:07.239
ground where we were walking. It's very odd because I

1011
00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:10.360
don't ever find I've been all over this property for

1012
00:55:10.519 --> 00:55:14.079
years and I've never seen feathers on the ground. It's

1013
00:55:14.159 --> 00:55:16.960
very odd because we didn't just find one. We have

1014
00:55:17.239 --> 00:55:18.920
we still have them to this day. Here they're on

1015
00:55:18.960 --> 00:55:21.519
the shelf over there. We found three of them, three

1016
00:55:22.119 --> 00:55:24.880
like hawk feathers that were and they weren't all in

1017
00:55:24.960 --> 00:55:27.679
one spot. It was like as we were walking farther

1018
00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:29.760
back into this area, which I felt like at the

1019
00:55:29.800 --> 00:55:33.400
time was maybe they're a little hide out that they're

1020
00:55:33.800 --> 00:55:38.039
if they're traveling for their I think they migrate from

1021
00:55:38.199 --> 00:55:40.760
north to south during different times of the year, and

1022
00:55:40.880 --> 00:55:43.079
maybe they were just traveling through this area when we

1023
00:55:43.119 --> 00:55:46.400
were there, So as we were walking back towards their

1024
00:55:46.440 --> 00:55:50.079
maybe there a little hideout area, maybe they were leaving

1025
00:55:50.159 --> 00:55:54.519
us gifts or something. So we were finding these feathers

1026
00:55:54.519 --> 00:55:56.639
on the ground. It was just very odd, so we

1027
00:55:56.760 --> 00:55:59.400
kept them. It's another reason why I tried to leave

1028
00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:02.440
them something and see if they would take anything. I

1029
00:56:02.519 --> 00:56:06.639
did check that little gifting spot the last summer we

1030
00:56:06.679 --> 00:56:09.920
went that. This last time we went and one of

1031
00:56:09.639 --> 00:56:12.719
the little costume jury things I had wrapped around these

1032
00:56:12.719 --> 00:56:16.119
branches was no longer on the branch like I had

1033
00:56:16.119 --> 00:56:18.519
wrapped it around so it wouldn't just fall from wind

1034
00:56:18.719 --> 00:56:21.880
or anything. And it was on the ground like in

1035
00:56:22.360 --> 00:56:24.559
the little tree. So I don't know how it somehow

1036
00:56:25.159 --> 00:56:27.280
a bird could have came up and with it, I

1037
00:56:27.320 --> 00:56:30.599
don't know, but it was off the tree, off the

1038
00:56:30.599 --> 00:56:33.400
little this little two foot tall little sapling that had

1039
00:56:33.440 --> 00:56:35.880
wrapped it around, and it was on the ground. I

1040
00:56:35.920 --> 00:56:39.400
don't know. Maybe something came and checked it out, but

1041
00:56:39.679 --> 00:56:42.840
I don't think these things are on that property. And

1042
00:56:42.880 --> 00:56:45.800
because we didn't have any action or anything this time,

1043
00:56:45.840 --> 00:56:50.119
we went out and we really we didn't really see

1044
00:56:50.119 --> 00:56:52.760
anything when we went out there, for Thanksgiving last year,

1045
00:56:53.599 --> 00:56:56.440
didn't really have any experiences. I saw some weird prints

1046
00:56:56.440 --> 00:56:58.800
in the snow that it could have been a bear

1047
00:56:58.840 --> 00:57:02.320
for all I know. But I think that this maybe

1048
00:57:02.320 --> 00:57:04.719
they were just traveling through the area and they were

1049
00:57:04.760 --> 00:57:06.800
just so happened to be in the area because it

1050
00:57:06.840 --> 00:57:10.440
was for like maybe half the time, like all these

1051
00:57:10.440 --> 00:57:14.159
things that happened were mainly within a two week span

1052
00:57:14.719 --> 00:57:17.079
and then things just died off, like we'd all sit

1053
00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:19.559
in there and listen, we wouldn't sing, And this all

1054
00:57:19.679 --> 00:57:21.199
was like in a two week span of the month

1055
00:57:21.239 --> 00:57:22.920
we were there. So I think maybe they were just

1056
00:57:22.960 --> 00:57:26.480
traveling through the area and making their way. Let's see

1057
00:57:26.480 --> 00:57:29.280
if that was during the summer, and maybe they were

1058
00:57:29.320 --> 00:57:34.760
headed up north. Maybe they liked the farther up north

1059
00:57:34.800 --> 00:57:38.360
into Canada during the summertime, and then during the winter

1060
00:57:38.440 --> 00:57:42.119
time they traveled down and down south to avoid the

1061
00:57:42.159 --> 00:57:45.280
cold winters up there, and they just were making their

1062
00:57:45.280 --> 00:57:48.159
way through. Because if you look on a map, if

1063
00:57:48.159 --> 00:57:51.000
you look on a map, like a topography map, you

1064
00:57:51.000 --> 00:57:54.559
can see where like where my family's property is and

1065
00:57:54.599 --> 00:57:58.320
there's blm land behind it. It's like completely surrounded by

1066
00:57:58.320 --> 00:58:02.679
blm land, and you can see that the forest just

1067
00:58:03.119 --> 00:58:05.559
goes up and up and up into Canada, this like

1068
00:58:05.679 --> 00:58:09.599
strip of mountains. So I think they come down and

1069
00:58:09.639 --> 00:58:13.599
they they just were coming through at that time. I think.

1070
00:58:13.639 --> 00:58:15.400
I don't think they stay there twenty four to seven.

1071
00:58:15.920 --> 00:58:18.320
I think it was just like an off chance that

1072
00:58:18.880 --> 00:58:21.239
I could be wrong. That was what I got out

1073
00:58:21.239 --> 00:58:24.079
of it, That it wasn't something that's there all year round.

1074
00:58:25.599 --> 00:58:28.360
And I think you might be onto something too, because

1075
00:58:28.360 --> 00:58:31.360
I have a sighting map on my website now where

1076
00:58:31.400 --> 00:58:34.400
I put all this stuff that all the things from

1077
00:58:34.440 --> 00:58:37.920
different episodes, and one of the patterns you can see

1078
00:58:38.039 --> 00:58:41.679
is that there's pretty much a line of sighting reports

1079
00:58:41.679 --> 00:58:45.039
that go from the pretty much up in baff and

1080
00:58:45.079 --> 00:58:51.480
they just trickle down into through Montana, which is really interesting.

1081
00:58:51.559 --> 00:58:54.280
It's following those mountain ranges and then splits off and

1082
00:58:54.639 --> 00:58:57.480
goes over to the Cascades too. But it's just it

1083
00:58:57.559 --> 00:58:59.800
is really interesting to think about what sort of a

1084
00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:05.079
cential migration paths there are out there, how all that works.

1085
00:59:06.119 --> 00:59:08.840
Yeah, and I really there's a lot of deer in

1086
00:59:08.960 --> 00:59:12.000
Elk in the area. I'm just trying to think what

1087
00:59:12.039 --> 00:59:13.880
would they eat all your if they were there all

1088
00:59:13.960 --> 00:59:16.760
year long? I just don't see something of that size

1089
00:59:17.400 --> 00:59:22.159
surviving in that kind of environment. There's during the springtime.

1090
00:59:22.199 --> 00:59:24.159
I'm sure there's lots of berries inste They're kind of

1091
00:59:24.199 --> 00:59:27.679
like a bear. They probably could survive there, bears there.

1092
00:59:27.719 --> 00:59:31.360
There's grizzlies not too far away from where we stay too,

1093
00:59:31.519 --> 00:59:34.400
and something that size could survive. I don't see why

1094
00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:37.679
these things couldn't either. I just it's just hard to

1095
00:59:37.719 --> 00:59:42.199
imagine them if they were just eating deer or elk

1096
00:59:42.400 --> 00:59:45.039
or how they would survive this whole time in one spot.

1097
00:59:45.079 --> 00:59:47.320
So that's why I really think they travel around. They

1098
00:59:47.320 --> 00:59:50.639
don't stay in one spot because they would deplete resources.

1099
00:59:50.679 --> 00:59:55.280
And absolutely it has been what a fascinating story. It

1100
00:59:55.639 --> 00:59:57.920
so much happened during that one month, and I just

1101
00:59:57.920 --> 01:00:01.480
want to say thank you for sharing what you guys experienced, Nick,

1102
01:00:01.559 --> 01:00:04.599
and hopefully you'll be able to keep us informed with

1103
01:00:04.719 --> 01:00:07.119
if when you go back in the future, if things

1104
01:00:07.159 --> 01:00:09.159
continue to happen, we'd love to hear about it.

1105
01:00:10.679 --> 01:00:13.280
Yeah, if anything else happens, I'll have to let you know.

1106
01:00:15.639 --> 01:00:18.280
Awesome, thank you so much for coming on the show, Nick,

1107
01:00:18.400 --> 01:00:19.199
I do appreciate it.

1108
01:00:20.679 --> 01:00:25.280
You're welcome, and I hope the listeners enjoyed my story.

1109
01:00:25.599 --> 01:00:27.920
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

1110
01:00:27.960 --> 01:00:31.159
directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

1111
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in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've

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1113
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1114
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1115
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1117
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1118
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if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder

1119
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1120
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If you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field,

1121
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1122
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1124
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1125
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If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

1126
01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:25.880
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1127
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1128
01:01:29.760 --> 01:01:33.079
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1129
01:01:34.440 --> 01:01:37.920
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1130
01:01:39.679 --> 01:01:43.199
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1131
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1132
01:01:46.119 --> 01:01:51.920
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1133
01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:56.280
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