Red Eyes on the Reservation, Screams in the Sawtooths

0:00 You're listening to Big Flat Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us. Hey, Kyle, how's it going pretty good? Can you hear me? Yeah? I can hear you. Sound great. Yeah, I've actually got a story. I actually sent you a message a while back, and you know you replied, you know, asking me to share it via email. You know, but obviously, with you know, life being busy and whatnot, I never really got to answer that email, and I've always wanted to.

0:55 Oh sure, but you. Know, my my encounters, I guess would start when I was a little boy, and at the time, you know, I didn't really think of it as as an encounter. But to give you a little backstory. You know, I was. From the un or A reservation and Fort de Shae in Utah. I don't know if you know exactly where that's at, but it's in the northeastern part of the Utah, you know, and it's a fairly big reservation. And you know, used to go out and go hunting with my with my dad and my uncle's quite a bit and uh there's a southern part of the reservations called the Hill Creek area. And one time, you know, me and my two other brothers, you know, we we were young. I can't remember or call how old exactly we were, but you know, I muld say anywhere between. You know, my younger brother who was he had to be around five six, you know, my oldest brother maybe ten, and so we're you know, I was somewhere around eight or so. But we were camping out one time when we were out hunting, and you know, my dad and uncles they told us

2:28 to go out and gather some firewood, and so we did, and you know, we we broke away. We went along the tree lines and my oldest brother, you know, I remember he was on the you know, off to the side of me, and I remember he walked around as you know, big tree, and I remember just hearing him screaming, you know, and I seen him come running out behind that tree. And so me and my other younger brother who was right next to me, you know, we both dropped our you know woods that we were gathering for firewood, and we ran back to the truck, and you know where my dad and my uncles were. You know, they asked my oldest brother what was going on, what had happened.

3:21 And. You know, at the time, he said that, you know, he was gathering up firewood and he looked inside this tree and he said that all he saw was his red eyes glowing at him, and it started growling at him. And so, you know, after that that night, I remember me and my brothers, you know, my dad and they made us sleep in the bed of the pickup truck all night while you know, my dad and uncles, you know, they both took turns staying up through the night. And you know, that was the earliest when I look back at it, you know, was the earliest memory of any kind of encounter. When you know, as you get older, you know, you start hearing stories and whatnot, and so that was my first encounter. Now fast forward, Uh, you know, I eventually moved away from the reservation and then UH moved back and uh you know it became a fishing, fish and wildlife officer, and so you know I used to patrol the same area, which you know, I I you know that that that memory would come back every time I'd go down in the area, and uh, you know, I I love that area. You know, that's I always used to tell my mom when I was younger. So you know, when I pass away, I want to be cremated and that's where I want my ashes to be scattered in the area, because you know that was my earliest childhood memories is of being down with my dad and uncles, you know, going hunting. And so one time

4:56 when I was on the I would say on the eastern side of the reservation, you. Know, patrolling. One time, you know, it was there was no one down there, at least no one that I came across at the time at the moment, and I started hearing like wood knockings, and you know, I you know, I remember thinking at the time that you know, is am I really hearing what I'm hearing? You know? You know I've heard stories and I couldn't believe it was actually happening.

5:37 But you know, I drove a little bit further down, and you know, there's a certain area where you know, you can you know, park along this ridgeline and you can actually see the interstate. You can see like Green River and when at nighttime. Anyways, but you know, I ended up driving along this other line called Mormon Ridge, and I remember parking my truck over there, my patrol truck anyways, and I had to have been sitting about fifteen twenty minutes just and I was looking off to the east of this ridge line, you know, watching a herd of elk and whatnot. And you know, off to the west of me, you know, there's like this long, deep ravine and I remember hearing like three loud screams, and you know, and I remember I kind of froze, like, holy holy cow, am I really hearing what I'm hearing?

6:44 And you know, it sounded like they were, you know, like communicating. You know, I could hear one way down in that ravine, and you know, another one sounded like it was up a little bit closer. Another one sounded like it was on the further ridge, and I'm sitting there listening to them, and then I heard a fourth one which sounded like it was a lot closer to me, like, and you know it, it spooked me, and I turned around and I got out of there, and you know, I was like, you know, I'm done patrolling. I'm going back to uh going back to back towards forty Shane and uh, you know, that was like my second encounter with him.

7:26 Now. The third time was actually when me and my dad were actually out hunting and minded. We were back over on the west side of the Hill Creek area, and you know, it was actually it was, uh, it was a pretty cool day because you know, I remember it because it was my dad's birthday, September fifteenth, and he and I were down there hunting that whole area. You know, we got one nice four point buck and uh, you know, we were happy. We were just kind of cruising around and you know, the sun started going down and my plan was to uh, you know, I told him we were going to camp down there, you know how we had all our camping gear and whatnot.

8:12 And just before. The the sun was getting ready to go down, you know, obviously that's when all the you know, deer and elk was started coming out, and uh, you know, I looked over and I seen another buck and I asked my dad, said, what do you think? Do you think I should take it? And he was like, you know, sure, go ahead. And you know, for this experience right here, this one was kind of kind of kind of weird because you know, you you as you start hearing the stories about you know, a paranormal kind of you know, experiences like you know, Bigfoot that you know, being.

8:53 One being one with nature and whatnot. But anyways, I I shot this buck and I you know it, you know, as it was facing me, it dropped and I walked up to it, and you know I looked in his eyes and you could see that his eyes, his pupils are started dilating, you know, showing that it was already it was already dead. And uh, you know, me and my dad, you know, it. Was funny because I remember he you know, he was at the front legs and he was holding open I opened it up, went to go gut it, and I reached inside and the heart you know, was beaten, and it scared me, and you know, I pulled my hand out and my dad started laughing, and you know he was just like, you know, you know, cut it so so so I did, and you know, we cleaned them out and whatnot, and so we put him in the back, and you know, we drove up on this knoll, just not too far away from where I shot it, and you know, I parked facing west and I remember I was watching the we were watching the sun go down, and I remember it was like one of those times where you know, it was like a special full moon and whatnot, but the moon was rising behind us, and it was one of those times where it just lights up the whole you know, nighttime, and so you know, I actually took a picture of it, and you know, like a panoramic view of you know, the sun setting, and you know it was you know, red with the

10:24 sun going down, and you know, as you start looking back east where the moon started rising, you know that whole east side of the reservation was you know, being lit up by the moonlight. And you know, we were just like I said, we were facing west watching the sunset, and off to the to the right of us in this draw, you know, we were listening to a bunch of elk just bugle and of course like I said, that's when all the the deer started coming out. And as we're watching the sunset, I remember like all those deers off to the to the I guess you would say, the south of us, you know, started come running up from that side of that hill and they actually, you know, kind of ran around my truck. And we looked at each other. We were like, you know, what what the heck's going all about? And you know down there too, they excuse you got wild horses down there, that room room around down there, and you know, we looked over and we've seen those uh wild horses. There was like a group of them. They gathered up and they started like running in circles over.

11:37 Kind of where you know, where I where I shot that buck. They were running around in circles, and then they took off and then they ran south down and we looked at it and we was like, well that was weird. And then you know, kind of over where I where I had shot that buck. You know, that's where we started hearing the whole famous scream going on the whole. And I looked at my dad and he looked at me, and I was like, you know, we got you know, I'll admit, you know, I got a little spooch again. And you know, the only the only way out to go was to go north, but we had to drive by that area where I had shot that bucket. I was a little scared, and you know, the other way was to the other option was to go south further into the uh into the reservation, and you know, I was like, you know what, We're just gonna go home.

12:33 So you know, we went home and whatnot. So that was like my uh, I guess, my third experience, but my most recent one was actually in the saw Tooth Mountains. Now, you know I actually uh. It's actually, uh, the the picture that's in my profile my or my profile picture where I'm in there with my dad, that's actually at the saw Tooth Mountains red Fish Lake, and uh, you know, we we go up there and uh, you know, I do salmon fishing with U with the missus and her son. You know, their their show bands from the show band Tribe, and you know they do a lot of salmon fishing.

13:16 You know, I go up there. I'd like to. I enjoy the camping. I hang out watch them do it, and you know, we just. Have a good time. And so I actually had taken my dad and uh you know, we have a bunch of little grandkids and whatnot. And you know, once we got there to the campground red Fish Lake, you know, the grandkids were all, you know, goofing around, you know, like calling for Bigfoot, you know, just just being silly and goofy. And you know, me and. You know, my son in law, we grab these sticks and we started banging on the trees and whatnot, you know, and this is you know, we're getting settled in and I don't know if you're familiar with the ground area.

14:00 You know, there's a lot of camping ground. You know, a lot of people that camp around. You know, it's just it's a you know, tourists, you know kind of place, and it's a nice little lake. And uh so, but when we were as the night, you know, night came, we made a campfire. We were sitting around, we were talking and my dad actually was telling the missus and and her family about you know that that encounter with my oldest brother went back when we were little boys, you know, telling them about you know, uh, you know, him screaming and seeing red eyes staring at him, and you know, we we kind of you know, just like telling telling. Everyone was telling their own stories and whatnot.

14:46 So after that, you know, we we go to bed and uh, you know, I'm laying there and I can't sleep, and I'm just you know, by then, it must have been about eleven o'clock. I'm gonna say eleven, maybe mid but everyone was sleeping and I'm laying there, and next you know, I hear the famous whoop whoop, and I froze and I laid there again. I was like, holy. Cow, And uh, you know, the next day I told everyone what I had heard, and uh, you know, it just yeah, yeah, I mean for me, that was you know what when I look back at all my experiences too, you know, from when I was a fishing game officer. Oh, speaking of there was actually another one too where I'm I'm pretty sure I actually saw him. And it was one of those things where you know how people say that they don't know he's there until you know at the last second, where you know, he walks off into the woods.

15:56 Right. It was actually a patrol. And again and this one on uh, this is picking backing. When I was a U. I was put on in the hill Creek here very south where I was telling the telling you about where I heard that screaming when we were I was actually further down south and I came across to the flats and it's just a two track right through that flats and you know, you got your tree lines, you know, surrounding it. And I remember driving and pretty much at my nine o'clock view, movement caught my attention and I looked over and I seen, you know, And this is before I even started hearing about colors, you know, because I always thought it was like a dark color, like he was a dark color.

16:51 But at the time when I looked over, I seen this figure just walking into the tree line and it had like long red hair at time, and at the time, I chalked it up as a bear for you know, for some odd reason. And then again later on when I started hearing more stories. About people's uh, you know, seeing him and then seeing videos or whatnot about you know, him having red hair as well. You know, I look back at that experience and and you know, I'm I I there there was For me, it was I was convinced that, yeah, I had briefly saw him, but again it was like one of those moments where movement actually caught my attention to what I looked over because I was driving for a while on that flats and again, like I said, him walking back into the tree line is what caught my attention.

17:50 But yeah, those those are those are my experiences, and you know, I just. I I tell those those. Stories to whoever is interested, you know, whenever if I find someone that you know, like you know, is interested in bigfoot and whatnot. I mean, I you know, I actually went to my like my first bigfoot convention or a little little convention you could say it right there in Poketello where I live right now, and uh that's where I actually met uh Jeff Meldrum before actually before he passed away, and I was really still I bought his book, and you know, I shared my story with him, the saw Tooth Mountain story anyways, and uh he actually told me that you know that that was the second person that you know told him the story about the saw Tooth Mountain area, you know, so you know, he just was like, you know, there's obviously something going on up in that area.

18:47 And it was it was pretty cool actually meeting. Jeff, you know, after I experienced all that uh, you know, the saw tooth and even you know back home on the reservation, you know, back from when I was a little kid, when I was a fishing game officer. But yeah, that that's that's my story, and you know, I'm finally glad I got to share it with you again. I've been wanting to to respond to your message, but you know, like I said, I just haven't had time to sit down and you know, write it out in an email because you know, I felt like there was a lot of detail to go into it, and you know, obviously with work life and whatnot, I just did not make time for it.

19:28 So you know, they's no problem, Kyle. I just appreciate that you're able to come up today and share. And I gotta I gotta tell you I've heard from another individual about Redfish Lake as well, so you might be interested. They saw So this guy talked to you named Rob. He said he saw a blowing orb to drop enough trees that was followed by a tall, hunched, light brown sasquatch with green eyes that crossed the camp perimeter at dusk, and then they heard a wo afterwards. And that was around twenty seventeen at Redfish Lake, So it's an interesting area from what I've heard. He said there were some missing person cases around there too, but that's episode nine fifty two if you want to check that out.

20:15 Hey, did that that story that you're telling me about. Was that on the south side of the lake or on the north side? You know what? I I don't know. I can't remember the exact details, but I have this map that I keep on my Website's big for Society podcast dot com. There's a sighting map, and so I was just looking up Redfish as he was talking, and that's what I have written down there. So there might be more details if you listen to the actual episode, but that's what I've got. Thanks for coming up, man. I'm going to check in with a few other people, but I'm glad we finally got to talk. All right, Thank you. You have a good night, hither. How are you hi?

20:56 I'm good, Hey, awesome. Feel free to share what you're experience was okay? So I live in Kentucky about it was probably around twenty ten. Myself and two friends were headed back from a concert late at night. We got lost, so we were coming home on the back roads instead of the Parkway. We ended up going through I don't know if you're familiar with Kentucky, but Rochester Dam in Kentucky. It's somewhat close to Mammoth Cave, but there's a lot of natural cave systems that go through there. So we're in a two door car. I'm in the back seat, and right as we're passing the Rochester Dam, the driver slammed on her brakes and we skidded sideways in the road and I'm sorry, I'm nervous because it's just reliving it. It's crazy.

22:05 Oh, you're good. I have the same reaction. I'm super nervous. You're good. Yeah. So, whenever she skidded sideways, it was summer, she had her window down. She actually hit the brakes so hard that her glasses were sideways on her face and she came to a complete stop. So she adjusted her glasses and we were like, what was it? What is it? And she fixed her glasses and stuck her head out the window, and whenever she did, we heard the loudest I don't even know how to explain it, kind of like everybody else says, it was a growl, yell. I have no idea never heard that before in my life, and it was so deafening, like crazy deafening. But whenever that happened, I turned around through the back glass of the car and it was this massive You could only see black because there was no street lights. It's out in the middle of the country, but it was probably ten foot tall and extremely bulky.

23:15 I could not. See its face, but it was. It was huge, very very huge on two legs. There's not bear in that area, however, they have been spotted there before. But I've seen black bear up close, and there is no way, there is absolutely no way that was a bear. I've also heard bear's growl in person, and that is not what that was. I honestly believe that we seen bigfoot that night. Oh my goodness, is that by the Peaboddy WSA it is? Okay? Yeah, yep, yep. I have heard about that area on my show. Some really weird stuff happens around that area.

24:06 Yeah. So I'm not surprised at all you had that experience. How far away from your vehicle would you say it was? So whenever we stopped, we were sideways in the road. Like I said, we were stopped sideways, and probably it might have been five feet behind the car standing. I couldn't make out any color. Really, I'm saying a black mass. It could have had color. I have no idea. It was so dark out there that all I could see was the silhouette of its body. But yeah, whenever it gave off whatever hal grouse scream, whatever it was, the driver was screaming and crying and I was just screaming for her to go. They couldn't see what was behind us, but I could. And I had never seen anything like that in my life. There's no explanation as to any animal that that could have been for the size that I was seeing.

25:20 My goodness, How did that affect you? After that happened? Well, like it was or twenty ten around that time, and I do drive through there a lot, and I'm always looking through the woods as I'm driving. It's really scary because this is a rural area and you just never know. I love to walk trails and outdoor activities like that, and it's kind of hindered me from wanting to do that. Really, I don't blame you at all. So let's the end of the encounter, though, So how did that did it?

26:08 Just? Did it run away? Or how did that end up for you guys? I do not know. I don't know if it ran away. I don't know where it went. We were all hysterical after we heard it, and I was just screaming for her to go and she was crying, so nobody was actually looking back anymore. We were looking forward, like go, go, go, get away from whatever this is. I don't blame you it, you know. I've never had a sighting myself, but I can only imagine what it does to you. And depending on how you react to it, I mean, you want to get either as quick as you can, so I don't blame you for that. My goodness.

26:52 Have you heard of any other sightings in the same area. I have heard of other ones, but not by anyone that I know. It's just been sightings that people have talked about online. But they all seem to be originating from that small area that absent. But like I said, there's a lot of natural caves all through Kentucky, but especially that era area because it's it's really not that far from Mammoth Cave and hundreds of miles away from Mammoth Cave. There's all little caves everywhere.

27:36 Oh, I bet. Yeah, that's the thing with that. It's like that over here in eastern Iowa too. It's like, yeah, you've got the big caves that the park is at, but then you know there's undiscovered ones on some farmers land. Oh yeah, de Benett absolutely absolutely. Well man, thank you so much for coming up and for share. And I know this is probably a hard thing to share, it sounds like, but I appreciate you doing this today. Thank you. I've actually never shared this outside of family inference before. Thank you for letting me come on, Cody, how are you not too bad? Hurry? Hey? Doing good? Feel free to share what you had happened.

28:17 Okay, Well, a long time ago I lived in Oliver. What do you call it? Oliver Penticton area in Canada, PC. And when I was kind of coming up the hill going to Karamas, I almost hit hit a thing that looked like Bigfoot. And it was weird because, uh, as I was coming up this windy hill, you know the white lion that like people can walk on or you can pull your car over to you on the highway. Well that's where sure, that's where he was. He was walking across the road and as he was right there. If I didn't turn left fast enough and if he didn't like jump out of the way, he would have been hit.

29:04 Oh my goodness, that's wild. So this is and this is down by the border too. It looks like kind. Of yes it is. And I just recently moved to Chiliac, and beside chili Wac there's a Harrison Hot Springs and they have a museum for bigfoot. And yes, I never really. Thought about that, like I drove back to see if what it was or whatever, if I could see him running or if I could you know, my intuitions at first was like, oh, it was just like a bear standing up walking or something like that. But I don't know, like I never told anybody this before. But when I moved to Chililac and I went to Harrison Hot Spring and so then I went into the museum there, they kind of like made it seem like, oh, that might be a real thing.

29:46 Eh. Yeah, absolutely, what year did this happen? It was about eight years ago or something like that. Yeah. I just broke up with my girlfriend and I moved in with my cousin. I care media there for a little bit until I got on my feet again. But yeah, her parents on that crazy crazy Larry's antique store or whatever. So it was it was like right along that highway there. Yeah, that was weird. Can you remember, Yeah, I'm sure it was probably only a few seconds that you had the actual. Sighting, right, Yeah, that's exactly what it was. Okay, yep. Do you remember were there any things that stick out in your mind that make you think, Okay, what I saw was definitely not a bear? Is something completely different? Okay?

30:38 You know how when like if you're standing and you're playing dodgeball. You ever played dodgeball, right, and you know how do you kind of like jump out of the way of a ball, Like like his hands went straight up in the air, like he was like like it looked really like intense. He was like really getting out of the way of the car. I wasn't even going to either. It was just like going up a huge hill and windy and uh yeah. It was kind of in the area where they used to have the z I don't know if you're if you know BC at all, but there used to be a zoo in Penticton area. Like the three exits to like one one direction goes to the other direction. Goes to Penticton and then the one direction road that I was on goes to Keramas.

31:26 I'm pretty sure it was Highway three, but yeah, okay, I thought it was kind of cool. That was all I have, you know, like the features of him jumping under the way, like you know, like I know that that's why kind of like wow, that looked human ish, you know. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, Midnight's got a good point. You probably both got freaked out at the same time. Yes, is what it sounds like. Yeah, so yeah, there you go. But man, thank you for coming up and sharing what happened to you up there in BC. Yeah. Okay, bye, bye, Hi j you can you hear me? Okay, yep, you sound great, sir. I can't say exactly it was a bigfoot, but just to kind of summarize the experience, it was twenty twenty three Caliberis County, California, up off of Highway four. I was doing a construction job up there around Avery Arnold, California, and then my brother and I took the a short day and went up into the standard Slass National Forest.

32:39 Long story short, my brother isn't a believer. I've been I've watched thousands and thousands of hours of YouTube years prior on Bigfoot, and you know, always said I, if I had to make a bet, I I bet Bigfoot are real. The Sierra Sounds was a big, big thing kind of get into once I discovered that one. But and this was really in that area, which is crazy. So all right, so anyway, this isn't like a crazy Bigfoot story or anything. But we get we get cruising around in these you know, national forest roads, and then we get really deep down into this canyon and we're on that on X Hunt map and we think we can get away, you know, take this this road. It's showing, but I think it was just a I called it a goat trail, but it was just like an ATV road.

33:38 We're in a little Tacoma get through this creek, and we think we're going to pop out on the main. Four service road. But it was at that time it was just pitch dark, and there's like, you know, huge, it's we're in the forest and it's just pitch black, and uh, and we stop and we kind of get out and and uh, this is where it gets crazy. So we hear whoops, like super super loud, super like a lot of volume, and I'm in the passenger you know, stepping standing outside the passenger door, and then it's kind of off thirty degrees to or I would say, nine o'clock from where I'm facing from the front of the vehicle.

34:34 And then I. Look at my brother and I'm like, you know, because he's always given me crap about the subject, you know, like like it's silly or whatever. I'm like, see see mother effort, you know, like I was like, and then another one about this is where the thirty degrees comes in, because then it's at like you know, I don't know, off to the left, more thirty degrees and they sound really similar in volume and the distance. If I had a guess, there were probably like one hundred yards away, maybe less, maybe more. And it was I'm thinking, that's not an owl because after the initial if you ever hear or watch that, you.

35:26 Know the Sierra sounds. The thing it wasn't just that it. Was there was something really distinct and unique following that sound. It sounded really freaking weird, like like it was like semi monkey ish but not you know, I don't know. And then a third one behind us, like totally in the opposite direction, same not as not as much volume, but it sounded like it could have been if there was like two miles. And then a female was behind us. And then my brother for some reason started walking off in the dark because he was like thinking.

36:08 It's just an owl or something. And he start he had the flashlight with him, and I'm kind of like, you know, just bewildered, you know, eyes are peeled back. I'm like, whoa, what's going on? You know, And I'm thinking in my head, you know, you know, because I hear about the mind speak thing, and I'm just sending out good vibes, like, hey, we're not here to do anything bad man, We're just trying. To get out of here, you know, right right, Oh yeah, you know, I'm just trying. To I don't know, just because I anyway, he starts running back with the uh. I see the flashlight going up and down because he's jogging, and. He's like, holy crap, dude, I just you know, I just this crazy smell came, you know, you know, I can't even describe it, you know, because he hunts way more than I do. For bear and everything.

36:56 He's like and then the hairs up on the back of his neck and everything. I'm like, dude, let's get out of here right now. You know. And I and I kind of, you know, we end up getting out of there. And then next day I go to work. He stays back. He's researching. He's like, yeah, there's no animal that sounds like that in these woods, you know, like he's trying to look. It all up. And then I started thinking too, like how how people you know, they don't get footage or I kind of beat myself up because I had my phone with me, and then I didn't even think to hit the memo, you know, the voice memo or record it or anything. I just it wasn't in my head at all. I was just like, man, we can't. We shouldn't be here right now. That's all I can think of, right Yeah.

37:43 Absolutely, Oh my goodness, that's that's so wild. I mean, first, thank you for sharing that Stanislaus has so much activity reported over the years. Is it So was this off of one OW eight. It was actually off a highway four and so yeah, there's if you go, it's probably about ten miles east of Arnold going up and then there's that salt reservoir off to the north of Highway for we're on the north side of Highway four in between up there somewhere past big Trees. So yeah, and I know.

38:25 Approximately the whole Sierra Sounds location too. After all that, it's not that far away, you know, it's right, it's right in the ballgame, you know. How's that Holy crap? But yeah, I mean relatively, you're in the right I would say region for sure. There's I have a sighting map of all these people I've talked to over the years. If you've got a Bigfoot Society podcast dot com and then sighting map, and I mean just check this out afterwards tonight and all the different things that I have talked to people about just up and down. Want to wait, it's really crazy stuff.

39:06 Yeah, I'll definitely scope better. Yeah, for sure. And like I said, I don't know if it was a if it was a group of bigfoot or not, but it was very very strange, you know the way. Yeah, if I had to make a bet on that instance, I would be like, yeah, that's that wasn't an owl, you know, I don't know. What it was though, Oh yeah, absolutely I would. I mean, you're in the you're in the serious sounds neighborhood pretty much. So uh just that's that's wild man. Thank you so much for coming up and for sharing that. I do appreciate it. Yeah, no problem, Thank you.

39:49 Feel free to share your experience. I'll try to listen as best I can. This goes back too when I was younger. Sorry because because this big quick encounter like counteracts. With these UFOs. Also because I eventually saw one being like lifted. Down from the uf vote that that I had encounters with the UFOs before, like when I was seventeen, my first encounter vote and they just like I was on my porch and I've seen. UFO just have a bring the breaking my quarter every time, and.

40:36 I looked up at it. It was just looked in the air there and then it just like flew off really quickly as as I looked at it, and it make any noise or nothing, and it looked like it was made out of stone and I can't even describe the shape. And uh so I jumped off my porch and I watched this UFO just this station thing, you know, just keep going really far away, and so I didn't see it no more. It's on fasts and then like a second was on. I guess if you're looking at something, you just go so far you can't see it no more. And you know, I've had a couple of other experiences, years of buy and stuff, but to get get to the Bigfoot, me and my wife we had decided to go to the California the Northern Woods and we're just you know, camping out there and stuff like that.

41:36 And it was nighttime. We saw. Like a cylinder shape ufo and it dropped off. It was like had a light or beat a light and we saw like this creature be up. You can only describe. It as a bigfoot because it's a huge, uh animalistic looking thing that was being dropped off and these were like the thing just flew off really quick now to. You know, to the sky. I mean walked over there with walking close to it.

42:17 And this thing it had red eyes and it was, you know, it's looking at us. He's looking at my wife and I was like that and I saw him looking at her, and I was like, you know, wondering, like what was going on, and so I kind of looked at her and I just know. I told her to like shake her do something, and.

43:05 Did anyone else experience what I just experienced. That sounded really weird the end of that call. Uh it did? I don't know. That was weird. That freaked me out a little bit. Here, guys. I hope that guy's all right. It did sound weird, right, It almost sounded like good. I'm sure it was just a truck engine, but it's very strange sounding. Hey Andre, how are you? Hey? Hey good? Good to have you up here.

43:47 My brother had an experience once in Algonquin Park and. Also me myself go up in Ontario, Ontario, Canada. Yeah, oh yeah, I'd love to hear about it. I hear that's a pretty active place in that park. Yeah, there's all kinds of weird stuff going on in there. So my brother. I have a big family, But one of my brothers was out there camping with some friends, and he came and told me one day his experience about seeing some big, tall figure. But it was late at night, and everyone kind of thought he was joking around. But every time I talked to him about it, he was dead set that he had seen some big, giant humanoid figure and the bushes staring at him.

44:52 Oh my goodness, how long ago was that? I think this was like five years ago. Oh gotcha? Gotcha? Okay. So yeah, and so ever since I heard about that, as I kind of always wondered what it was. I thought, well, maybe it was just a bear or I always tried to explain it away as something that could be explained right, right, But I ended up doing a lot of research and watching a lot of videos and hearing what a lot of people had to say about it. And I'm Christian myself, so I always like to relate everything to the Bible, bring it back to you know, what the Word of God says and everything.

45:52 Absolutely what other things are happening in that part. So my experience that I had in Algonquin Park was I was out there building a little structure just for fun and because I'm a Native Indian and there's a lot of things we like to do out there in the great outdoors. But I was. Building a structure out there. I'd go out there every once once every couple of weeks and keep working on it. But the one time I was out there all alone, it was kind of like one of those gloomy, rainy days, and I was recording with my phone, me chopping up some getting some food, prepped, and all of a sudden, this like weird vibration started going through my phone and it was like coming through my body or something.

47:04 I don't know what it, but. I had previously had watched videos, and instantly I was like, Oh my goodness, I think this. I think there's a creature trying to send a pulse wave or something at me. Because my phone was like vibrating really low and it was draining the power out of it. It was really weird. But and I started hearing all these whooping noises, you know they talk about yep, yep, and so I was like right away, I was just like, oh my goodness, I'm having my own bigfoot experience. Probably a family of them out doing something.

47:47 And so. I ended up deciding that, Okay, I'm going to pack up my stuff and I'm going to get out of here, because it's not really smart to be all alone out there. And I guess that specific day, I was actually using my chainsaw because I was clearing up the area around my structure I was building, and I have a feeling that cutting all that wood probably drawed them in. Actually I chucked a rock and it hit like because the structure I was building was like up on top of like a high point, and it was there's like a big giant rock that goes all the way around, so if something hits against it, you can hear it, right, And so as I was leaving with my stuff, one of those bigfoots chucked the rock and I could hear it hit against that, and I was like, oh boy, So I haven't really gone out there a whole lot.

48:56 I've been out there maybe twice since that experience because. I just don't know what to think right now. Right yeah, creepy. But if anybody's interested in seeing that experience that I had, I have a YouTube channel. It's called Survival Life Creations. I kind of mesched up my editing on it a little bit, but my YouTube channel is called Survival Life Creations and you'll see it's the one where I talk about hearing bigfoot.

49:40 It looks like a great, great kind of like bushcraft and like outdoor setting up stuff. I like it, So yeah, I'll have to I have to check that out later. Thank you. Awesome, awesome man, Well, thank you, I appreciate you coming up, man, No problem, take care, hey, real, how's it going? Let you go, brother? Hey, doing good, trying to get somewhere where was why okay, no sweat, no sweat. Real quick? Well, yes, sir, yeah, I've got a couple of experiences. Actually can you can you guys hear me? Yeah? You sound good now? Yeah?

50:21 Okay, all right. Well during during COVID, I'm watching a bunch of uh sasquat content how to Hunt. I'm being watching him and uh my wife brings me a sandwich or whatever. She comes in and all of a sudden she screams, oh. Um G, that's what I saw. That's what used to watch me in the woods playing when I was a kid. And I'm like, babe, do what she said. That's that's the that's the that's my friend. That's the wow man that used to watch me when I was a kid riding my bike. I used to wave at it. I'm like, babe, that's a that's a big foot. That's a squatch. She's like, I never knew exactly what it was, but I just thought it was like a big, hairy, homeless vagrant that lived.

51:08 In the woods. So she says basically from the age of around about nine or ten, all the way until she went to college, the last time she saw it was in nineteen ninety eight, hide and behind a big pine tree, and she had got off from work from the casino and she noticed when she pulled up into the driveway that the spotlight was on, the floodlight was on. So she just so happened to look over to the right and she sees this peeping behind a tree. She says she hadn't seen it in probably about a year or two. So she's walking into the house and she basically just pauses or whatever and kind of waves at it. Says that it walked, turns and walks away and does not make a sound.

51:49 And that was the last time that she saw. We met several months later. She didn't know anything about big foot, sasquatch, or anything like that until then. Actually, what I was watching was some different sketches, and it was a sketch that was. Up and she swears up and down that it looks just like this. And then what. Shocked me so much was, man, this thing looked human. Its sketchy looked human. And that's the reason, she says, she always thought it was just like a homeless harry vagrant or whatever that lived in the woods. So fast forward into about last year or so, we're getting ready to move on to some property. So we moved into her parents' house. This is the home where all of this happened. They're surrounding I'm down here on the coast of Mississippi, and her parents' house is backed up to like thousands of acres, thousands of acres. We got a lot of stress and all that going on as we're getting ready to get you to move on to the property.

52:44 And we never argue. Never. I can count on one hand how many arguments we had. And I would keep the back window, the bedroom window where the bathroom is cracked, so my daughter's cat can go in and out, and we're kind of arguing or whatever. I don't even remember what it was about or whatever. And I hardly ever raised my voice at her, but I raised my voice at her, And when I did, I remember, I had this feeling of dread that came over me. And I thought maybe it was because I never yelled at her or something like that. So I go outside to I smoke black and mild cigars. I go outside, smoke a cigar, and I started hearing these knocks. This was about the third time that we've had heard them before. So I get my son or whatever. He comes out and he's like, yeah, that's sure, dude, I'm hearing these or whatever. It's like three different locations or whatever.

53:33 So he goes back in, maybe after fifteen twenty minutes, and I'm standing out there by myself, and I swear to you, there's a big drainage stick that drains to this creek and probably maybe not even one hundred yards away. I thought someone was in the woods speaking a different language. I mean, I heard someone speaking and I couldn't make out what they were saying, but it was like they were arguing, like they were fussing, going, man. What is that? And I did not correlate it. Put it, put it, you know, two and two together or whatever that maybe this is Gibbers, maybe. This is the sasquat or something like that. So I got a little bit closer, and I tell you, man, I mean, I just had chills run all over my body.

54:15 I felt exactly this thing was fussing at me. And well, actually, later on, after I'm telling her about it, she was like, yeah, that was my friend. He was probably yelling at you, fussing at you. He didn't like the way that you were talking to me. And she's probably spot on, because this thing was gone off, I mean so much so to I literally ran inside. I ran inside, closed the windows, locked all the doors, locked all. The windows, everything or whatever. A couple of months after that, we're always looking out the window, you know, and you know, just listening for knocks and the woops and things like that we've heard, we've experienced it all. And I'm looking outside. Actually, if you go to my channel, I've actually got some videos actually. On there of the oars.

54:55 I'm looking back off into the woods or whatever, and I see these three green lights me three lights, two two red and one green or whatever. And once again I get my whole family and I tell everybody because I want anybody thinking I'm crazy or whatever. I'm like, what's this or whatever? This wasn't, you know, just your average orb that you usually see. It was more in like a triangle shape, and but it did eventually turn into an orb or whatever, and it looked like molten gold. And then then it started scanning about in the same area. Where the Gibbers Gibbers you know, thought was coming from. Uh So I recorded. I mean, I think I probably recorded orbs or whatever.

55:37 Maybe four or five times we had one to come into the bedroom. We had movie night. Gone, uh, there's I'm a family of four, me, my wife, and my daughter and my son, and we're all sitting there watching a movie. And I thought a spider was was coming down in front of me. I could see this line coming down or whatever from the ceiling. And I had just gotten new contacts, so I talked up to that. I'm going, man, what's going on? What am I seeing or whatever? So I leaned up a little bit, and sure enough, man, there was this little glowing or and right about the time I got maybe a foot of so away, my. Daughter goes, what is that? And as she does or whatever, it zips away and zips underneath the couch. I don't know if it's just this area. I think it's my wife, actually, I think so.

56:25 I don't know what it is. Everything, you know, I think surround her. She's had an order to actually follow her. Her and my daughter they went to a football a high school football game. One followed them all the way into the parking lot. The whole time she was at the game. She could see it. When she left to get in the car. It hovered over the car. She's actually got a video of it. But yeah, down here on the Mississippi coast man the last probably four or five years, we've been having a lot of different experiences. But I did, you know, want to call you know, call in and you know, give a little bit of you know, the experience and stores and things like that. But yeah, from the age of about nine to about eighteen, she's seen this thing a handful of time.

57:06 She thought it was a homeless guy that lived in the woods. She said he was maybe seven eight feet tall. She never told anybody about it because she said she thought somebody would go out there and maybe run the gal off. But until twenty twenty one, when I'm watching this, she screams out, OMG, that's what I saw. That's what used to watch me in the woods. So I'm like, hey, this is a big foot. She's like, well, I'm telling you that's what I saw. That's exactly what you used to stand in the woods. And watch me. People watch me at a DiscId and I'd wave at him, but he just stand there and just stare at me. He looks similar to the to the photos that you have here a little bit. Yeah, it was a little bit. It was a little bit more groomed. You know, the one I do have the photo saved, a little bit more groomed. She always said, you know, it had fur like a bear, it had hair like a bear.

57:53 It's a little bit more groomed than this one near. But it has a face of a man. And she says about she says, about ninety percent. This is, you know what the sketch that I that I end up saving. She said, That's exactly what it looked like. And I'm telling you, it looked like a human to me. Yeah, dude, people, I talked to this one guy and he saw what looked like he'said a big, big hairy man and from seventy seven to seventy eight, off of his porch in Waveland. Yeah, and a buddy of mine we had a up around the Leaf River. And what's crazy about this? I was actually watching your show, uh, and a guy called in and he was talking about up around the Leaf River. This is in Pearl River County. It's a hunting area, and my buddy and I was turkey hunting.

58:46 In all of these years, I had never thought that that that. This is what this could have been. But we're we probably had height maybe no like maybe ten miles back off into the trails or whatever. You know. We were young, maybe early mid twenties or something like that at that time. So we got out there about five o'clock in the morning. This was around maybe ten or eleven am. We had been hiking so long. What we do we call a little bit and we stopped, spend you know, twenty thirty minutes or whatever, post up, you know, the wait see if any birds would come in. And man, we were exhausted, so we kind of end up against this dirt. Bern were kind of laying back or whatever, laying back and calling. Both of us had dozed off.

59:28 And man, when I tell you this, every time I talk about this, I could actually feel it in my shoulders. There was something that yelled. It was like a cross between a lion and a bear, a dinosaur or. Something like that. Like I said, I was kind of dozed off or whatever, so you know, it woke me up out of well, actually walk both of us out of our sleep. We both jumped up with our twelve gage shot gun. I'm thinking maybe a hog or something is upon us and behind us. There's maybe like this, maybe a little one hundred yard little little bowl or whatever, and it kind of comes up an incline and drifts off into some little pin pine trees that they had planted, maybe two hundred yards or so. You could see and there was nothing there. I mean, we talked about this all the way home. Man, what could that have been? We actually choked it, chalked it up to there was probably something paranormal, maybe like a ghost or something like that. But it yelled so loud that I could feel the vibrations in my shoulders. Every time I talk about it and I think about it, I always can feel it or whatever.

1:00:32 But yeah, man, we jumped up, We jumped up or whatever. Didn't see anything after maybe about five seconds or so. So we take off running. Actually, as we come around a little bend or whatever, maybe about twenty five thirty yards. From where we were, we actually jumped the turkey. We were so scared. Neither one of us even took a shot at it. So we run for maybe ten fifteen minutes, and you know, we're tired, and we kind of sloped and we're talking about it, like, man, what's going on? You know, let's go back. So we finally worked up our nerves to go back, and where the noise came from behind us. In this little bowl, there was all this tall salt grass or whatever, and I mean, if a rabbit had went through that grass, you would be able to, you know, see the trail.

1:01:16 That it had made. There was no trails. He and I we started walking through the grass trying to figure it out, and everywhere we walked you could actually see where we were walking. And he was tripping out by there, like, man, whatever this was, it was like it was right on top of us. I'll come, there's no trails or whatever. I come, there's no tracks or anything. Man, I don't know, you know what, Let's just get out of here. We ran, I know, for probably an hour, I mean and basically until we just about collapse. We couldn't go any further. That's how freaked out we were. When I tell you, it was loud, the loudest roar growl I've ever heard in my life. And I've been in the woods my whole life. I'm forty six years old, up in hunting.

1:01:57 Since I was about eleven or twelve, I've heard it everything. Dear Bobcats I've actually seen a couple of black bear down here. I've seen it all ky oies. I've never heard anything like this, And it was just until recently when I heard this guy on your show talk about the Leaf River that I went, Dude, that had to be what that was. That had to have been. There's no other explanation what it could have been for something to sound like it's literally standing on top of us. We jump up with our twelve gage shot guns, looking around, we don't see anything. We run off, we come back, we're kind of checking out the area and we don't see anything. I think, to me, looking back on it.

1:02:38 Or whatever we were, you know, like I said, going every ten to fifteen minutes, calling stopping. I think this thing probably thought it was a bird or whatever or something. He was gonna throw a rock and maybe have him a meal. And you know, that's just what it was like. It was like something was mad or frustrated or something like that. But I can't say for sure that that's what it was. But my wife's experiences, without a shadow of a doubt. I wish I could get her to call, and she's very shy about this stuff, you don't she don't even want me talking about it. She don't want me telling anybody about it because she's afraid somebody may come down here in the woods, you know, hunting for trying to kill it or something like that. Oh, I get it, I absolutely get it. Well, man, I appreciate you coming up and sharing and hopefully that Uh you guys don't have any other issues. Sounds like you got it figured out now, but it sounds like you also got something watching you.

1:03:29 Yeah, yeah, yeah, most definitely say yeah, yeah, we still hear stuff or whatever. I don't worry about recording anything like that anymore. I got a bunch of stuff on my phone, but yeah, most definitely. Man, they're they're they're they're here, They're back there. But yeah, man, I appreciate your time, and I appreciate you having me all though. Thank you for coming up, sir, I really appreciate it. You have a great you too. Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity around Oakridge, Oregon and you think to yourself, Man, I would love to get out in those woods and experience it for myself. Well guess what this year you can. If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July tenth through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's going to be even better than the previous year's reason number one, I'll be one of the speakers. It's gonna be wild. I'll probably I'll say this. There may be stuff you haven't heard anywhere else, because let's just say sometimes it's well, you just got to be there. We'll leave it that more about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now check this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his documentary series Searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year you can not only go to the festival, but you can also sign up for a track deep in the wild forest

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