May 4, 2026

Red-Haired Sasquatch Found Lying in the Road Near Crater Lake | Oregon Encounter

Red-Haired Sasquatch Found Lying in the Road Near Crater Lake | Oregon Encounter
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Season 1

A midnight drive through Oregon became a life-changing encounter when Jennifer and her family entered the remote Crater Lake corridor. First came the blinding lights in the forest. Then dozens of glowing eyes appeared along both sides of the road. Moments later, they stopped for something lying in the highway—a red-haired juvenile Sasquatch curled in the middle of the lane.


Jennifer shares every detail of the night, why she refused to take a photo, and how years of research led her to discover that this stretch of Oregon is tied to countless reports of Bigfoot activity, strange lights, and unexplained phenomena.


From Brookings to Highway 97, this episode dives deep into one of the wildest firsthand accounts ever shared on Bigfoot Society.


If you’ve ever wondered what really moves through the forests of Oregon after dark, this is an episode you need to hear.

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You're listening to BIGFA Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, Pick for Society, Welcome

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back to another episode.

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Today.

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I've got the privilege of talking to Jennifer, who had

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a very interesting set of experiences out there in Oregon.

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Jennifer is a listener from Oregon, and we'll be sharing. Man,

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I don't think I've ever been able to talk to

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someone about an experience like this, so I've been very

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excited to get Jennifer on the show. In this area

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that we'll be talking about is known for a lot

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of strains out there in Oregon, a lot of weird

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things happening, So welcome to the show. Jennifer, how are

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you today?

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Thank you. I'm doing really good.

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Jeremiah, fantastic. Now, is there anything else that you would

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like to share about yourself before we get going for

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the listener?

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Well, my name's Jennifer and I'm fifty eight years old

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and I grew up on the Oregon Coast and lived

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in the southern Oregon Coast Brookings, Oregon area, and spent

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a lot of time in the Redwood National Forest hiking

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and having lunch and enjoying time at the beach with

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my children as they were growing up.

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Fantastic, And I hear that Brookings is a pretty beautiful

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area from people that are out there. Absolutely, I can't

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imagine being out there. You'd have so many options for

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different day trips and different weekend trips to take that

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just blow you away. But the thing is, it sounds like, Jennifer,

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from this experience you had about twenty years ago, you

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had something really strange happening when you were driving along

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a little north of Crater Lake. Is that right?

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That's correct.

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It was August fifth, two thousand and five, and it

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was a full moon, and we were traveling from Brookings

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to sun River, Oregon, and we decided to go after work,

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so it was rather late. It was around midnight, and

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we had rented a Lincoln town car so we could

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get the wedding dress and the tuxedos and the groceries

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and things in the car, and we were taking a

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nice trip. It was my son, who was about fourteen

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at the time, my cocker spaniel, and my fiance and

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myself and I was up looking for deer, of course,

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because I knew that there would be a lot of

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animal migration that time of year, and on the full

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moon especially, And it was a pretty uneventful trip until

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we got to the area of Mount Tealson, and I

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remember coming through the turns of Mount Tealson into a

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straight stretch and over on my left the forest was

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really really bright.

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It had an illumination like many many.

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Led lights, a white bright light, and it was like

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we were going on train tracks.

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Our car would.

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Come up against like a train track sound, kind of

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a force that we were like on the edge of

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some kind of event happening, like you could say, a

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portal of some And I remember asking everybody, what was that?

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Do you see that? Do you see that?

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And my son was asleep in the backseat, and he

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began to wake up, and the light was on the left.

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Of course, I was a passenger in the car, and

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I looked forward to watch the road, and on the

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right there were numerous little eyes at about three feet tall.

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I'm assuming they were eyes, knew like probably if they

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were a set of eyes, probably fifteen sets of eyes

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three feet tall on the right hand side of the road.

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And then I was looking forward and on the left

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there was probably five to seven sets of eyes, and

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I thought, what was that because they had just kind

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of appeared out of nowhere. There was no other movie

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went up until that point on the highway, and I said,

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did everybody was awake at the car at that time,

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And I said, are you guys seeing what I'm seeing?

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So about thirty seconds to a minute later, we were

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on a straight stretch of highway and I could see

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the blinking red light from Highway ninety seven and that

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was helping doing some illumination along with the full moon.

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And in my side of the highway there was something

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in the highway and I said to my fiance, I said,

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do you see that?

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Don't hit it? Don't hit it.

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And I asked him to slow down because he was

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going rather fast because we were the only car on

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the highway, and so he began to slow down and

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swerved around it and came to a complete stop and

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backed up the car because I said, did you see

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what was in the middle of the road. It looked

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like a and he backed up the car. We got

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out and there was a sasquatch lane in the middle

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of the road in a fetal position. Okay, We all

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got out of the car, including my cocker Spaniel, and

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we walked up to about forty feet away from it,

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and it was lane in the middle of the lane

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in a fetal position with its back turned to us.

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So we approached it. We got within like I said,

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I'm going to say, forty feet, and I knew exactly

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what it was.

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I knew what it was.

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And it wasn't an elk, it wasn't a bear, it

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wasn't a wolf. It wasn't like anything I've ever seen.

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And the most astonishing part to me, Jeremiah, was it

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had red hair, and the hair was between seven and

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eight inches long, and it was shiny and smooth. There

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were no twigs, there was no plane cones or anything

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in the hair. It was not matted, and I got

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an overwhelming sense that it was a juvenile male, and

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I didn't want to go any closer to it because

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I thought perhaps the set of eyes that I saw

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a couple minutes or a minute and a half before

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could have been its family pack or clan, and I thought,

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if I get too close to this juvenile, you know,

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a mother could come out of the woods, or a

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father or a sibling, and it wouldn't be good. So

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we kind of ran around, and I tried to call

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my dog because my dog wanted to come closer, and

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she just wasn't understanding she was a cocker spaniel and

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she just was doing her cocker spaniel thing, acting rather goofy,

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and I was like, Katie, get.

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Back into the car.

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And then my son, Tyler, who was about fourteen at

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the time, I said, you've got to get back in

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the car. And he was still kind of waking up,

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and so I was pushing him back into the car

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and I said we've got to go, and we got

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back into our car and started to go towards Highway

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ninety seven, and then my fiance said, well, we need

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to take a picture of this. Let's get the camera

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and go back, and I said, absolutely not, We're not

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going back.

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We're not going to take a picture.

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We're going to leave this thing alone. And that's exactly

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what I saw.

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Okay, wow, this is extremely interesting. So I got so

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many questions for you. So why would you why would

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you say no, we're not going back, We're not getting

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a picture.

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Well, because I didn't want to have any confrontation. Let's

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say it was a they were hunting. You know, I'm

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not quite sure if I believe they're they're not a

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half animal, half man or something, but I do know

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that they hunt, and if they were in a hunting

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party on a full moon looking for game, I didn't

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want to encounter any of the other people in the

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juveniles hunting party because that could be they might think

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that we were going to hurt their baby.

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Sure. Sure, so this was midnight that y're or was

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it a bit after midnight by the time you got

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to the area where this was.

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It was a bit after midnight because we didn't roll

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into sun River till about two o'clock in the morning.

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We also had a strange thing when we got into

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Sumult too. We Shumult is a town south of sun River,

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and we had a large deer jump over the top

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of our car. We were going about thirty five.

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Miles an hour through Shamo because it is a town and.

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A rather large deer. They're larger than the ones on

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the Organ Coast that I'm used to, and I thought,

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this is incredible. There's a lot of animal movement at

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that particular time.

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I have a few more questions about what you saw

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down by Mount Tielsen. So it's laying in a fetal position,

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so I'm guessing that means it's on its side right

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with its back to you. Yeah, Now, do you have

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an estimate of how let's see so that would have been,

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or just how high off the pavement it went?

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It was pretty much centered in the road, because I

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remember looking at the yellow line, which would be closest,

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you know, to where its head was, and it was

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about three to four feet from that line to where

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its feet were, which weren't tucked up at a ninety

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degree angle, by the way, They were more of about

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a thirty to a forty five degree angle. So I

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could get a pretty good idea how tall.

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I thought it was.

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It was a little over six feet tall in my estimation,

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because then I looked up how wide those lanes are.

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You know, I've done in the twenty years a lot

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of thinking about this and a lot of continuing well,

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listening to shows like yours and some.

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Other bigfoot shows.

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And I've found out too that the Klamath Reservation is

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somewhat close to that area. And whatever show Bobo's on,

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I was watching him and there's an episode out there

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where they had to ask permission of the Klamath elders

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to go up in that area and look, and they're

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correlated according to the Planmouth Indian Reservation people, that they're

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correlated with these orbs or lights. Okay, I found that

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was really interesting.

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So that is extremely interesting. Was there any smell when

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you guys were walking towards what was in the road.

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No, there was no smell, And I've thought about that too,

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because there was no wind, and the night was extremely

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still and very quiet out there. There's no there's no

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lights from anywhere, so it's you know, it's completely dark

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except for the full moon, and it was really a

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nice night. Usual, Leo will get cold over here in

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central Oregon, but not on that night. We were just

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in t shirts.

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And jeans, gotcha. I want I'm going to ask the

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question I asked before a different waek because it's a

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weird question to try to get across. So let's imagine,

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you know, we're going to say there's a juvenile big

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foot in the road. You're looking at it, you're walking

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towards it. But let's say, you know, it's like a

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We'll say it's a pile of hair. Right, So how

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high off the pavement did that pile of hair go

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from the road?

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Like?

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How many? How many feet high? Would you say?

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Was the hair?

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Oh? Like the width of his shoulder perhaps?

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Is that?

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Yeah? Yeah, that'd be a great way to put it.

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Yet I thought it was rather lanky. I mean I

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didn't see a lot of muscular His body type was

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rather lanky. That's why I was thinking he was young

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and growing. The hair coming off him. There wasn't an

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extremely amount of hair. Perhaps it could have been a

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summer coat. I think it was more lighter, silky, you know,

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seven to eight inches long, really selky?

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Gotcha?

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Eliminating? I thought it would. I didn't know that they

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had red hair. I thought that they would have dark hair.

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So that surprised me a lot. So I was really

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taking a minute to look at it. No, he wasn't

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extremely thick, if that's what you're.

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Asking, He didn't, gotcha, gotcha. And I guess i'd be

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asking that question to try to get a feel of

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maybe how far, how wide the shoulders were, or things

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of that nature.

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I would say probably.

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Maybe at the largest three feet.

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Across, gotcha. Gotcha. The way that it was in the

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fetal position, with its back towards you, were you able

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to see the hands or the feet or any details

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about the legs at all.

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I was able to see the legs, and it continued

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to have as much hair as it did on the

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upper body the lower the feet didn't have any hair

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on the bottom. I didn't The head seemed rather large,

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but it was facing away from me.

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Okay, do you remember what color the bottoms of the

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feet were.

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I think they were a lighter color. Really, I want

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to say they were more of a tan color.

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Oh, that's fantastic. Okay, that's very cool. Now, so you're

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looking at it in the middle of the road. Now,

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was there anything else ordinary, out of the ordinary about

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what you're seeing to do with the road around it?

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Well? I just kept looking up the road where I

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saw the other light shine. And the reason I was

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interested in that was I was taking anatomy and physiology

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at Orgon Coast Community College for a couple of years,

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and we had just taken apart an eyeball, a sheep eyeball,

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and I learned that animals have a film over the scalaria,

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the white part of the eye. I can't remember the name.

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I think it starts with an end, but that reflects

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back the light. So when I saw the critters on

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the side of the road, which basically came from nowhere

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as we were passing in the car, I thought, that's

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got to be an animal because of the eye shine.

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But I couldn't figure out in my mind if it

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was deer. Wouldn't it scatter if they were on the

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side of the road, Because listen, growing up on the

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Oregon Coast, we had elk in the road, we had

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deer in the road, we had bear in the road.

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It was just a natural thing to turn a corner

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and have animals in the road. And they usually scadatle

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They usually don't just all stand there in a pack,

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numerous all together like that, and on both sides of the.

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Road, it's it's a very strange detail. Yeah, it's very weird.

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So so nothing in the road like uh, let's say, like, uh,

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you know, marks where a car had to have had

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to stop suddenly, anything like that around the same area.

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No, none of that. No. I looked.

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I looked for blood too, and I didn't see any blood.

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I just had an intuition that, like I said, I

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thought it was a male juvenile mail like a teenager

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because of its size. I don't know if it was stunned.

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I couldn't put it together.

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I didn't.

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I didn't feel it was dead. I don't think that

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they just die in the middle of the road. I

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thought more, maybe more that it had been stunned for

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some reason. I didn't feel that it was alone either.

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I don't think it was a young male hunting by itself,

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for example, or moving through the forest. I don't know

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if they have summer camps, you know, like the Native

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Americans used to, or if it was a migratory trail.

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But definitely I didn't want to hang out for too

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much longer after I identified what it was, to see

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if there was any other ones going to come and

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you know, get my family. I don't know if they would,

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but I wasn't going to find out.

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Yeah, I mean, there's there's so many theories that you

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could come up with. You could come up with anything

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from like it's done by something, or it got hit,

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or maybe it saw you guys coming and it just

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freaked out and I was like, I'm going to just

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try to hide. But it shows the middle of the

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road instead of the side of the road, which doesn't

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really make sense, right, It's just it's very strange.

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Well, I've read of accounts.

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I've read so many books in twenty years, and you know,

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I tried to continue with this learning from my own sanity.

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But on Highway one ninety seven, there are tons of

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accounts of truck driver saying that they thought it was

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And I drove that that road for eight years over

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to Medford to doctors and sporting events and shopping and

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things like this. But the truckers would say that they

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would sit down like they were a rock, and then as.

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They'd come with their truck, they'd stand up and move away.

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And so it could very much be that he was

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playing possum exactly because there was no blood. He didn't

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look injured to me. He just kind of felt like

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he was stunned. So maybe he was playing possum.

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And so that makes me really wonder if you guys

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had kept going closer, what would have happened potentially? Oh

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my goodness, wow.

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I was pushing I was pushing my son back into

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the car and my fiance too, and trying to get

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hold of the dog, which she thought it was just, oh,

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it's time to go out and you know, you know,

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go to the bathroom or something.

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You know.

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She was running around like she was out of the

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car and all happy, mm hmm. And I don't know,

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but I thought to myself, you know, we could have

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we did have a foot phone back then, we could

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have we could have gone back, we could have taken

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a picture. But what are we going to do with it?

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Sure?

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I mean, are we gonna Are we going to put

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it up somewhere and have everybody and all their friends

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come out and swarm on Crater Lake Highway and have

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a bunch of I'm going to say, cookie people or whatever.

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Back then you know, I'll make a big to do

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about it. And the reason why I was kind of

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protective over that matter was because we had a dairy

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farm Untilamunt County, and I'd ride my horses a lot

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on our land. And you know, the last thing we

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really wanted to do is have out of town visitors

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and people picking mushrooms and letting our gates down and

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tramping all over the place and leaving their garbage and

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making a mockery out of things. So I thought, I thought,

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I thought to myself, We're just gonna let it be,

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you know, because obviously they are real, and do they

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want to be exploited? And I would be protective of that,

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you know, their privacy and their right to be there

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as an ancient uh, you know, whatever they are, you know.

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And I think at the end of the day, you

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had to do what you felt was right and stick

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to that decision. And yeah, I think you did do

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the right thing. Now did you report this to anyone?

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Did you?

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You didn't?

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Okay, no, I didn't because I didn't think people take

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me seriously.

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But I'll tell you what. I never hiked along again.

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I would take hikes all the time by myself if

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I had an afternoon in the redwoods or you know.

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And after that, I thought, no, I'm I'm definitely going

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with a friend.

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Yeah, I don't. I don't blame yes, So no, And

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when I say reporting, even talking to like a law

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enforcement official or anyone on the side about what you

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or Department of Transportation anything like that.

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No, I didn't talk to anybody. I talked to.

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I was a school teacher for many years, and I

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talked to a girlfriend of mine that I trusted, and

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she was a substitute teacher, and she was going to

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be there for a few days. And she brought in

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a map and she showed me with little dots on

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the map all the sidings that she had been tracking.

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And it was interesting to me around Oric in California,

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right across the border there from Oregon to California.

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What a hot spot or it really is.

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And if you follow Oric up the Klamath River area

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into that parallel place where I had my encounter, you

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can kind of follow it in a direct line up

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through Creater Lake National Park.

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And are you talking about or California, Yes, Okay, yeah,

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because down there, I mean that's just Ork is almost direct.

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If you cross the Klamath, you have to go through

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the woods. I mean you're going to get to the

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Patterson Given Film site. So yeah, I mean I just

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had a guy on the show who shared a lot

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of experiences from down in Oric but up in the

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woods closer to the the Klamath and the Hoopa Reservation area.

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Yeah, and then I read David Polaidi's Hoopa Experience and

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then a second book, and then I really, you know,

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I've had twenty years to put this together before I

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finally got brave enough to speak about it. And what

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was holding me back was, you know, that normal experience

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I had before I saw the siding, because I really

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was afraid to say anything because that sounds so kooky,

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but that I don't know if that's correlated or what,

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but it seems to me that it is correlated.

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So why would you come forward now to share publicly

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what you experienced.

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Well, my sister really, who reached out to you first,

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really encouraged me to do so. But I was definitely

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going to write David a letter just because he talks

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about these orbs and these portals and things like this

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that are correlated to seeing these cryptids, if that's what

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you want to call him. So I was brave enough,

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and I felt the science has caught up in the

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twenty years to where this wouldn't sound so outlandish.

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Absolutely, and I think that the more people come forward

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with things like this, it's extremely important that you do,

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so that you know, pretty much everyone out there can see, Okay, look,

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people are experiencing things like this, and we can start

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to draw connections like you just did where you know

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you were hearing truck drivers in a different part of

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Oregon saying well, they're kind of being like possums in

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the middle of the road, like a big rock, and

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that's how we learn about what's going on, to be honest.

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So I'm glad that you did come forward now after

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this this experience, you had three different people in the car.

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Sometimes when people have an experience like this, it really

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affects them. Were you guys affected in any intense ways

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after this?

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Thank you for asking that, because I was just talking

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to my mom and my sister and my son will

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not talk about it. Oh wow. And every couple of

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years I want to bring it up in front of

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my mom or my sister and see if I can

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engage him in conversation and he completely clowns up.

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That's I can understand that.

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And I.

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Hope it wasn't an overly traumatic ex experience for him.

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You know, sometimes it can be traumatic and it can

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really affect the way that you view the world. Since then,

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did it affect your fiance in any ways?

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He didn't really want to talk about it either. He

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just shook his head and acknowledged, you know, that that

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had happened, but he didn't want to engage into any

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deeper conversation with me or try to troubleshoot it.

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Or any of that.

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And I guess, you know, one of the reasons why

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I didn't tell an authority is because they would have

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just swept.

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It under the rug anyway.

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In my opinion, I don't think they would have been

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truthful or anything, and then that would have probably put

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a mark on my back, you know too, or something.

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So I just left the government and the authorities out

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of that.

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I totally understand if this was to happen to you today,

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do you think you would have made the same choices.

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I would have, because I don't trust that someone wouldn't

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try to harm them, you know, I think possibly they've

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been harmed enough, and not only in their environmental areas,

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but they have a right to live peacefully and coexist

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on this planet. And just because we might be a

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more of a higher order species per se. We don't know,

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but you know, definitely we might want to take guns

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to them or harm them in any way, and I'm

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just not into that, you know, coming from a farm

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family and knowing how ecosystems work, and I would never

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want to put them in harm's way.

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And I definitely respect you for that. I think that's

472
00:28:53.440 --> 00:28:58.240
that's the right way to view this is there needs

473
00:28:58.240 --> 00:29:02.920
to be respect and really, I mean the more the

474
00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:05.000
further that we go along, there's going to have to

475
00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:09.200
be conservation someday as well. But you know, this this

476
00:29:09.319 --> 00:29:12.279
area I've talked to a few people about the Creator

477
00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:16.319
Lake area is such an interesting area for bigfoot because

478
00:29:16.920 --> 00:29:19.559
you know, I've talked to hunters down there like Prospect

479
00:29:19.720 --> 00:29:22.839
Union Creek, and they all have the same story, which is,

480
00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:28.920
once you hit west of two thirty, it's all bets

481
00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:33.000
are off and there's some really really weird things that

482
00:29:33.039 --> 00:29:38.640
happen in the woods and sometimes even aggressive. But you know,

483
00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:41.480
after that, you've had twenty years after this experience on

484
00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:46.200
one thirty eight, have you researched the area to see

485
00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:49.559
if you could find any other interactions or encounters that

486
00:29:49.599 --> 00:29:50.799
happened in the same area.

487
00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:53.799
Well, my best friend at the time and my other

488
00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:56.279
son kind of made fun of me. My other son

489
00:29:56.519 --> 00:30:00.240
was at wrestling camp at the time at Oregon State University,

490
00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:02.680
so my mom was going to pick him up and

491
00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:06.079
bring him to sun River for the wedding, and we

492
00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:08.799
told him the story and he kind of poo pooed

493
00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:12.440
that he was probably, I don't know, a sixth grader

494
00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:16.319
at the time. And till he and my best friend

495
00:30:16.400 --> 00:30:20.920
had to travel back from Central organ to Brookings for

496
00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:24.079
a funeral and they were both in the car and

497
00:30:24.400 --> 00:30:27.319
late at night again and there was a bunch of

498
00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:32.160
activity in the sky. They saw numerous flying objects going

499
00:30:32.359 --> 00:30:37.200
in all kinds of physical ways up in the air

500
00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:42.960
that our aircraft couldn't do. And they both called me

501
00:30:43.200 --> 00:30:45.519
the next day when they got to Brookings and they said,

502
00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:48.359
you know, this is what we saw. We saw at

503
00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:53.480
least two to three crafts going all kinds of directions

504
00:30:53.559 --> 00:30:57.799
up and down and sideways at accelerating and decreasing speed.

505
00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:02.960
It wasn't an aircraft, commerci aircraft or aircraft that military

506
00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:07.319
that I'm aware of, that could do that. And so

507
00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:12.000
after that point, as they went through that corridor, you know,

508
00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:16.160
and experienced that in the air. You know, they kind

509
00:31:16.160 --> 00:31:20.640
of came around and maybe I was, you know, telling

510
00:31:20.759 --> 00:31:21.720
some truth here.

511
00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:26.079
Absolutely. Do you remember what year that would have been

512
00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:27.359
that they experienced that.

513
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:33.920
Gosh, about three years after two or three years.

514
00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:37.319
After okay, so that would have been around like two

515
00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:38.160
thousand and eight ish.

516
00:31:39.000 --> 00:31:40.480
Correct, Okay.

517
00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:49.920
Interesting. Now, sometimes you know, as you said, you started

518
00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:52.519
to look into things. You've played this over and over

519
00:31:53.960 --> 00:31:57.839
based on research you've done and also things you've experienced.

520
00:31:58.119 --> 00:32:01.839
Do you do you lean towards certain way of what

521
00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:06.440
you think these bigfoot actually are. I mean there's some

522
00:32:06.599 --> 00:32:10.279
people where they're thinking, you know, it's some kind of

523
00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:15.119
of human relative or some you know, undiscovered ape or

524
00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:17.720
do you think it could be something completely different that

525
00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:18.480
we're dealing with.

526
00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:23.680
Well, because of what I thought it was either some

527
00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:27.240
kind of craft that let up. Now, remember there's large

528
00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:31.400
ponderosa pines through there, and even though we don't have

529
00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:34.960
a lot of underbrush like we do on the western

530
00:32:35.079 --> 00:32:38.680
slope of the Cascades, on the eastern slope, we don't

531
00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:40.839
have a lot of underbrush, but we do have a

532
00:32:40.839 --> 00:32:44.160
lot of tall trees in that area. I couldn't make

533
00:32:44.200 --> 00:32:47.160
out if it was a craft over on the left

534
00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:50.680
that was illuminating everything, or if it was say a

535
00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:55.039
portal where things came through. But I wouldn't put it

536
00:32:55.319 --> 00:33:00.119
past my line of thinking that it could be, you know,

537
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:04.319
some sort of mixed DNA type creature where it's a

538
00:33:04.359 --> 00:33:07.200
little bit of human and a little bit of something else,

539
00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:11.920
and they came through this portal, say with you know

540
00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:14.240
those other things that were on the side of the road.

541
00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:16.559
I think if it would have been dear, they would

542
00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:18.160
have scattered with all the commotion.

543
00:33:18.359 --> 00:33:20.000
I don't think they would have stuck around.

544
00:33:21.319 --> 00:33:28.039
So whatever those three foot eyeshine creatures were, that they

545
00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:31.680
could have all came through, you know, and did a

546
00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:36.200
visit here. Perhaps the sasquatch on the road was stunned.

547
00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:40.000
I don't know how much g force or whatever they

548
00:33:40.039 --> 00:33:42.680
go through. Do they have to take a couple of

549
00:33:42.759 --> 00:33:46.039
minutes to orientate or do they just hit the ground running.

550
00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:48.720
But to me, it kind of felt to me like

551
00:33:48.759 --> 00:33:49.480
it wasn't dead.

552
00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:52.559
It was a stunned type of creature and it was

553
00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:55.000
going to wake up here eventually. I didn't want to

554
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:59.960
be standing there when it did. So that's that's kind

555
00:33:59.960 --> 00:34:03.319
of know where I'm going with that, I think right now.

556
00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:10.639
Okay, gotcha. You mentioned portals a few times, and on

557
00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:14.119
the show its portals in Oregon have come up a

558
00:34:14.119 --> 00:34:17.119
few times. I mean, there's there's a story up there

559
00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:20.920
near Oakridge, a pretty famous one. There's a story is

560
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:26.800
somewhere in I believe Southwest Oregon, Adam Davies portal story

561
00:34:26.840 --> 00:34:30.039
to do with Bigfoot. And have you heard of any

562
00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:35.119
other portal incidents when you've been looking through things that

563
00:34:35.159 --> 00:34:36.159
are occurring in Oregon.

564
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:38.119
I haven't.

565
00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:42.199
I just know that when we went on the outside

566
00:34:42.360 --> 00:34:46.480
of it, it had a feel, it had a force

567
00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:50.199
behind it. Like I said, the train track and the

568
00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:52.199
sound of the train track kind of.

569
00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:56.440
As we were going through it.

570
00:34:56.480 --> 00:35:01.519
There was almost like a little like a torque or

571
00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:05.880
something with how the car was moving as we were traveling,

572
00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:12.480
and the lights kind of were flashing simultaneously with the sound.

573
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:19.199
I don't know if a spacecraft could do something like that,

574
00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:21.920
I haven't been that close to one. Except for that

575
00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:26.840
possible that experience, any of those two options are still

576
00:35:26.880 --> 00:35:31.480
a possibility in my mind. When I would of course

577
00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:34.960
this could be another story, but I have more a

578
00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:40.000
similar experience with another family member in NESCo in Oregon,

579
00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:46.280
which is where the farm was in Tullamuck County, seeing

580
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:49.800
things out in that area too, which is close to

581
00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:54.400
Mount Hebow, which is a hot spot, but that's over

582
00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:56.519
north and on the coast.

583
00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:04.119
Now, are you saying that you had some bigfoot interactions

584
00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:07.199
or just like high strangeness things.

585
00:36:07.000 --> 00:36:08.960
Happen or an orb.

586
00:36:09.159 --> 00:36:14.000
We were two males up Slab Creek and my uncles

587
00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:19.760
had experiences with he's my mom's brother, saying that he

588
00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:24.639
would get be taken up, and I wanted to debunk it.

589
00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:27.920
So we went out two miles up. There's an old

590
00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:32.679
state park there on Slab Creek Road and Nescow in

591
00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:36.159
right as you come down from Cascade Head on the

592
00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:39.679
Oregon coast, and we all went out camping again. I

593
00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:45.159
had my sons, myself, my uncle, and another male who

594
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:49.599
was a roommate, and we were in a circle out

595
00:36:49.639 --> 00:36:53.000
there camping at about two in the morning, and an

596
00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:58.599
ORB came in to our camp and I told my uncle,

597
00:36:58.639 --> 00:37:02.679
whose name was Jim, I'm not going to be taken

598
00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:03.599
up by this thing.

599
00:37:03.800 --> 00:37:05.440
You know, you need to wake up.

600
00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:10.039
Because evidently we're out here to debunk your story and

601
00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:14.960
here they are. And so that was a whole nother

602
00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:17.719
incident of really high strangeness.

603
00:37:18.159 --> 00:37:22.360
Oh my goodness, do you remember what size and color

604
00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:23.039
it was?

605
00:37:23.519 --> 00:37:23.719
Oh?

606
00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:27.559
Absolutely, I was doing it again. I was in college

607
00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:30.639
and we were doing tree studies, and I was.

608
00:37:32.159 --> 00:37:33.159
Keeping track of the.

609
00:37:33.199 --> 00:37:37.360
Trees, so I know that a mature older for examples,

610
00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:42.320
about sixty feet high. And I saw the orb come in,

611
00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:46.199
you know, and we were all awake, sitting around the fire,

612
00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:51.320
and it was coming in slowly, slowly, slowly came to

613
00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:54.280
the top of the tree line of the alder trees.

614
00:37:54.360 --> 00:37:56.519
And this was when I was really yelling at Jim

615
00:37:56.559 --> 00:37:59.480
and he was not getting up. Everybody else's up except

616
00:37:59.559 --> 00:38:03.159
my uncle. And I said, Jim, get up, get up.

617
00:38:03.639 --> 00:38:06.760
And he had been gone for four days previous and

618
00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:09.199
he had had the same copper spaniel with him, my

619
00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:13.119
dog Katie, and I was really he was up Hyak Road,

620
00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:17.119
which is just before that state park we were at,

621
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:20.079
and he came back. He was gone for like three

622
00:38:20.159 --> 00:38:24.880
days and yeah, and so the next day we went

623
00:38:24.920 --> 00:38:27.480
out and this incident happened, and the ORB came in

624
00:38:28.199 --> 00:38:30.719
and I said, Jim, I'm not going to get taken up.

625
00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:32.800
You need to get up because this is your thing,

626
00:38:33.679 --> 00:38:38.280
and he wasn't getting up. So I was sitting there

627
00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:41.639
crisscross around the fire and I felt something on the

628
00:38:41.639 --> 00:38:45.079
top of my head and it was like air. It

629
00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:48.679
was completely silent and it was this air that came

630
00:38:48.760 --> 00:38:50.920
on top of my head. So that made me look

631
00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:54.079
up and it was like another thing locked onto the

632
00:38:54.280 --> 00:39:00.239
orb and chased it out of our camp and they

633
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:03.119
were just going all over the trajectory was just all

634
00:39:03.159 --> 00:39:07.119
over all kinds of different angles and chased it off.

635
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:09.760
But the thing that was chasing it had a.

636
00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:16.320
Pink light and light green light on it. I don't

637
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:18.079
know if it was a jet. I don't know what

638
00:39:18.159 --> 00:39:22.599
kind of craft it was, but it looked like something

639
00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:27.360
that we'd have because of the pink light and the

640
00:39:27.480 --> 00:39:30.679
light green light locked onto the orb and chased that

641
00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:31.400
orb off.

642
00:39:33.000 --> 00:39:36.480
Okay, that is so strange. I mean this area that

643
00:39:36.519 --> 00:39:39.400
you're talking about, it is really close to another area

644
00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:42.800
that comes up every once in a while on the show.

645
00:39:43.599 --> 00:39:48.000
And like the otis Lincoln City, Rose Lodge, Bear Creek

646
00:39:48.079 --> 00:39:51.320
area there, Man, that area is is weird. I mean,

647
00:39:51.360 --> 00:39:54.039
some of my radist stories have come from I guess

648
00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:56.400
that's called the van Duser Quarridor as well.

649
00:39:56.880 --> 00:40:00.400
And we lived in rose Lodge, and you to the

650
00:40:00.440 --> 00:40:04.400
old NESCo and Highway through rose Lodge right there at

651
00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:05.840
otis interesting.

652
00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:09.000
Mm hmmm. So this is all you know.

653
00:40:09.079 --> 00:40:11.320
And I had my we had a farm out there,

654
00:40:12.159 --> 00:40:15.679
and so there was all kinds of incidences out there.

655
00:40:18.679 --> 00:40:21.079
I lived on Slab Creek Road when my birth son

656
00:40:21.440 --> 00:40:24.039
was with me in the car he was an infant,

657
00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:28.000
and we lived in our family farmhouse out there, and

658
00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:29.599
I would wake up in the middle of the night

659
00:40:29.639 --> 00:40:32.000
and my horses would be down on the lower field,

660
00:40:32.079 --> 00:40:35.480
just running back and forth and winning and naying, and

661
00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:39.760
you know, big bright lights would be illuminating on top

662
00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:44.599
of that field. And so my uncle was always drawn

663
00:40:44.679 --> 00:40:49.519
out there and he would go a payak, I don't

664
00:40:49.519 --> 00:40:53.440
know why there, and that's where he would get taken up.

665
00:40:55.719 --> 00:40:59.960
And so he won't talk about it either.

666
00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:03.039
And we'd be at family reunions and my mom would say,

667
00:41:03.840 --> 00:41:05.920
do you want to talk about this? And he would

668
00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:09.360
just clamb up too. He goes, I can't just shake

669
00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:13.760
his head now, and he says, I can't wow.

670
00:41:13.800 --> 00:41:17.280
And he was taken up multiple times into some kind

671
00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:18.679
of spaceship.

672
00:41:18.719 --> 00:41:20.119
Right and the last time.

673
00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:21.840
He was gone for three days and he had my

674
00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:25.840
cocker spaniel with him.

675
00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:28.800
Oh and and so they took the cocker spaniel up

676
00:41:28.840 --> 00:41:29.719
in the ship as well.

677
00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:32.039
Wow. Yeah, it's the same one that was in the

678
00:41:32.039 --> 00:41:34.679
car when we were on Creater Lake Highway or east

679
00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:35.960
side in Lake Highway.

680
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:39.360
My goodness, is that dog could talk?

681
00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:41.599
Can you imagine thing?

682
00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:51.039
Yeah? Wow, extremely extremely interesting stuff. Hmm.

683
00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:52.440
Yeah.

684
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:57.119
I don't talk to a lot of you know, abductees

685
00:41:57.119 --> 00:41:59.159
and things like that do not come up a lot

686
00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:02.119
on the show, but this is the second time they've

687
00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:04.480
come up recently. It's very interesting.

688
00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:07.880
I know that when I would try to go a

689
00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:13.519
payak on my horses, my horse, my primary horse, would

690
00:42:13.599 --> 00:42:16.119
not want to go a payak, you know, And there

691
00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:19.599
would be no reason we go all over riding horses

692
00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:21.360
out there, and he would never want to go up

693
00:42:21.400 --> 00:42:23.440
that road, he refused.

694
00:42:24.840 --> 00:42:31.239
Sure, gonness, it is the Pacific Northwest gets stranger and

695
00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:33.719
stranger the more that you look into it. But I

696
00:42:33.760 --> 00:42:36.239
am just so glad that you were able to get

697
00:42:36.280 --> 00:42:39.960
to the point to share what you experienced down there

698
00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:44.360
in Crater Lake back in two thousand and five. Jennifer,

699
00:42:44.440 --> 00:42:47.280
thank you so much. I want to make sure that

700
00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:50.480
you were able to share everything that you would come

701
00:42:50.679 --> 00:42:52.320
on the show to share today.

702
00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:56.320
Yes, I'm just still doing my research, you know, all

703
00:42:56.360 --> 00:42:59.320
about this and trying to put it all together in

704
00:42:59.400 --> 00:43:04.280
my mind. Your show short does help.

705
00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:05.440
I do you tune into that?

706
00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:10.880
Thank you. I appreciate that. I mean that is one

707
00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:12.719
of the reasons I do do this show is I

708
00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:14.239
know a lot of people are trying to figure out

709
00:43:14.280 --> 00:43:17.039
stuff and this is a way that they're able to

710
00:43:17.159 --> 00:43:21.559
draw connections and also individuals are able to share and

711
00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:25.000
get things off their chest as well. But Jennifer, thank

712
00:43:25.039 --> 00:43:27.400
you so much for coming on the show. And if

713
00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:30.199
there are any other things that happened to you in

714
00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:32.960
the future, you know, please send me an email. I'd

715
00:43:32.960 --> 00:43:36.280
love to hear about it and maybe get an update

716
00:43:36.320 --> 00:43:36.599
from you.

717
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:39.760
Thank you so much. Jeremiah, have you.

718
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Ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity around Oakridge, Oregon?

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And you think to yourself, Man, I would love to

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get out in those woods and experience it for myself. Well,

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guess what this year you can If this is interesting

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to you, stay tuned because it's pretty cool. Sasquatch Summerfest

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is coming up July tenth through the eleventh, twenty twenty six,

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it's gonna be even better than the previous year's Reason

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number one, I'll be one of the speakers. It's gonna

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be wild. I'll probably I'll say this. There may be

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stuff you haven't heard anywhere else, because let's just say

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sometimes it's well, you just gotta be there. We'll leave

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it that more about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods.

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Now check this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from

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his documentary series Searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year you

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can not only go to the festival, but you can

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also sign up for a track deep in the wild

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forest outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot

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Spots to look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots to

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sign up for this, and yes, this will also be

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filmed for the next chapter in his documentary series, which

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is Searching for Sasquatch. This is a once in a

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lifetime deal. It's just trust it's going to be a wild,

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wild experience. To get a ticket, head on over to

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Sasquatch Summerfest dot com and listeners can use the code

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b sp like Bigfoot Society Podcast in order to get

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a two day pass for the price of a one

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day pass. So thanks to Priscilla for giving me that

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code so that you guys can can get a little

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help with the costs there. Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope

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to see you at the booth in Oakridge this year.

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We can talk about your encounter. Was able to talk

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to so many people last year and the year before.

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It is an incredible time. You're not going to want

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to miss it, and I'll see you there. Before we

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wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to

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a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military,

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any branch or forces, and if you've seen something that

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no one can explain, or if you're a National park

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ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet,

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or if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down

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on the ground, or if you're with the FBI a

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federal agency, or working intelligence and you stumbled upon something

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you're not allowed to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic,

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or search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found

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tracks that didn't make sense, if you're in the logging

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industry on a remote oil field or a trucker with

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government contracts, and you've had something happen that you've never

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told a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist,

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or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence

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you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary,

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or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw something

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that shook your faith, or if you work in the

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shadows CIA, NSA or anything with clearance, and you've seen

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what the public hasn't, then I want to talk to you,

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even if it's anonymous. You can reach me at Bigfoot

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Society at gmail dot com. The world needs to hear

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what you've been forced to carry alone, and you're not alone.

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You've got the story, We've got the mic. See you

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in the woods. Thank you for listening to this episode

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of the Bigfoot Society podcast. Every encounter we share reminds

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us that the world is bigger and stranger than we think,

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and that the truth is often hiding just beyond the

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tree line. If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure

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star positive review because all that helps more people discover

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has had a bigfoot sighting, please I'd love to hear

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from you, so email me at Bigfoot Society at gmail

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gotten a chance yet, check out our membership community over

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at www dot Bigfoot Society podcast dot com and that's

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place to connect with other people that are into the

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Bigfoot subject as much as you are. Thanks again for

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following along with the Bigfoot Society until next time, Keep

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your eyes open, trust your gut, and never stop asking

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what else might be out there? And see you in

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the woods.