April 22, 2025

Red Orbs, Forest Roars, and Sasquatch! | Oregon

What happens when a nine-year-old boy hears blood-curdling screams outside his remote California trailer — and decades later finds himself staring into massive glowing eyes deep in Oregon’s Elliott State Forest?

In this unforgettable and chilling...

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Season 1

What happens when a nine-year-old boy hears blood-curdling screams outside his remote California trailer — and decades later finds himself staring into massive glowing eyes deep in Oregon’s Elliott State Forest?

In this unforgettable and chilling episode, we welcome back David, a longtime listener and previous caller, to share his astonishing journey with the unexplained. David takes us from early childhood experiences in Junction City and Trinity Center, California — where a mysterious creature left claw marks at the top of a 10-foot trailer door — to a jaw-dropping series of events in the forests of southern Oregon in 2019.

Over nine days of elk hunting, David, his wife, and his sister encountered vocalizations, unblinking reflective eyes, shadowy figures in the brush — and finally, a deafening roar that forced them to abandon camp in the middle of the night. But that's not all. David also reveals a life-changing encounter involving red orbs, alien beings... and a family of Sasquatch seemingly abducted alongside him.

More than a Bigfoot story, this episode explores memory, mystery, and how the deepest forests still hold secrets science can’t explain.

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You're listening in Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron

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Tonight's story doesn't start with a footprint or a whoop

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in the woods. It starts with a boy lying in

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bed playing with kittens when something heavy begins circling their trailer.

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That boy was David, and what followed was a lifetime

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of encounters, from screams in the Trinity ELPs, to glowing

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red orbs that drifted through walls, to the moment he

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opened his eyes and realized he wasn't alone, a family

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of sasquatched, three alien beings, and a voice in his

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head that told him to drink pickle juice. This isn't

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a sci fi story. This is David's life and it

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all came rushing back in the Elliott State Forest in

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twenty nineteen nine, nights of eerie Knox shadowy movement, and

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finally a roar so loud it shook their souls. This

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is the story of David and the night the forest

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roared back. So stay with us. I pick the Society.

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We have the privilege of talking to David today. David's

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an individual that you've heard on the show. During the

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call in show heard him before and we had a

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good chat then. But David's back to share some some

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other very interesting encounters. He is from out there in

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the great state of Oregon, and welcome to the show again, David.

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How's it going man, Thank.

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You, Jeremiah. It's going really good. I'm excited to be here.

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Absolutely, I'm this is going to be a fun one.

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We were talking before the show started recording, and you know,

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we'll be going some some areas that the show normally

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doesn't go, but it does have to do with Bigfoot.

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And you know, I'm going to say, let's let's pass

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things right over to you, David, bring us back to

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the first instance that you're wanting to share with the

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listeners tonight, please, okay.

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Sure. So it all started and I remember the year

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because when we moved to this little place and I'll

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tell you the place, Jeremiah. You can look it up

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if you want to. It was a place called Junction City, California.

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It was about seven miles west of Weaverville, California. And

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there's before you get to Junk City, there's a place

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on the right called Slattery Pond and it's like just

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the sal Pond. And we lived up the little dirt

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road behind that pond, and it was the only house

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back there, and it was it had turned nineteen seventy

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nine to nineteen eighty because I had messed up on

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my school work paper and had to erase the seventy

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nine and put eighty. So I remember that. That's the

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only reason why I remember the actual year that this happened.

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And so we'd lived there probably a couple months or something,

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and it was just a place that we stayed in

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between us buying this property. So we stayed there just

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kind of momentarily. And so when we moved in there,

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the people that rented at the place to us told

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us about this big and I'm doing like a quote

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with my finger bear that would come around that previous

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renters had talked about that scared the previous renters. And

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so it was a double white mobile home, and the

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back half of the trailer was kind of off off

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the ground because it's the ground sloped off right there,

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so it was up on like the cinder blocks, and

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I'd say the bottom of the trader was like three

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feet off the ground or something like that. But me

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and my brother's room was in the very back that

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that end of the trader and there was the hallway,

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and then there was a pantry across from our bedroom door,

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and it used to be an old fruit pantry. Well

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that there was no inside door, so if you're walking

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the hallway, you could just walk right in. There was

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no door there, but the outside door there used to

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be an outside entrance. That door was gone, and there

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was like a piece of plywood that they had nailed

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I think I only could be screwed. I think it

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was just nailed on there. And so we moved into

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this place and we've been living there, I don't know,

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probably a couple of weeks or something. And at night,

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you could we started hearing like these screams coming off

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and there's no owls as it's basically would start to

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go into like the Trinity Outs wilderness kind of areas,

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just all wilderness area behind that place, and we would

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just hear these screams, like a woman being murdered or worse,

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you know, and our whole family, there were six of

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us kids would just sit there with the window open,

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listening to this screaming coming off the side of the mountain,

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and my dad and my mom would be like, Chuck,

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what is that what is that? And my dad would

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be like, I don't know. I think it's maybe a

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fox or a fox cab. We all, I mean, it

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was so loud, it was it was scary, and I

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would have been if it was if that happened at

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nineteen eight let's say, just from nineteen eighty, I would

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have been nine years old at the time, and we

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just all of his kids knew that it didn't sound right.

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So then later on, my brother Charty, he was the

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oldest of us kids, he must have been about fifteen ish,

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comes running into the house one day and he's like, mom, Mom, Mom,

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I found a huge footprint. She's like, what do you mean?

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And he was like, mom, I found a huge footprint.

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It looked like ours, but it's huge. And he was

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doing like his hands and it was like, you know,

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eighteen inches or twenty inches or something huge footprint and

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my mom was like, are you sure it's not a bear?

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Were stepped into his own track and all that, you know,

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the standard question, which is good to ask. He's like, mom, Mom,

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it was there was multiple tracks and it was just

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one huge footprint, not two tracks in one. And so

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all this kind of adds up to this last bit.

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So me and my oldest brother sucked in that back

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bedroom on the same bed, and I slept up against

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the wall underneath the window. And it had to be

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sometime during the middle and I don't know what, I'm

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just going to guess it was around midnight or something.

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And I'm laying there on my back and i have

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a little kitten on my chest and I'm playing with

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the little kitten, and there was a few kittens up

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on the window sill, and it wasn't like a full moon,

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and you could see the light coming through the window,

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and so the kittens were like really highlighted in the window.

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And we're all just sitting there doing our thing. And

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then I noticed the kittens up in the window just

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stopped what they were doing, and they were looking out

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the window, all hunched up like when they're playing and

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they hunch up and all fluffed up, and both of

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them were doing the same thing, looking out the window,

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and their heads were moving like they were watching something.

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And then the kitten and I was holding did the

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same thing, just boom, just stop and fluffed up and

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was looking out towards the wall. Pretty soon I just

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hear boom boom, boom boom, and it's getting louder and louder,

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and it goes right right to the right of my window,

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walks right around the end of the trailer, and I

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can hear it walking up the other side, just boom boom,

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and you could feel these footsteps. And I'm trying to

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wake up my brother and he's not waking up. I'm

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not talking. I'm just trying to use my hand to

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kind of shake him. And it's quiet for just like

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one second, and then I hear it like like this

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breaking sound, and you could literally kind of feel the

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mobile home like shimmy, like if you get a big win.

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It's not like shaking, but you could just feel as

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little like hear creak and just feel that movement a

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little bit. And so that scared me. So I slip

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out of bed as quiet as I can, and I

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walk over to the door and I'm pushing it on

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the door a little bit and turning the handle as

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quiet as I can because I wanted to sneak out there.

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I had to run. I had to go past where

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that happened. I knew it was a plywood at that pantry,

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that food pantry and so the door goes click, just

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a tiny little click, and I just said boom boom

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boom boom boom boom boom boom, just running off. So

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I took my chance, you know, my moment, and just

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threw the door open and just h teled into my

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mom and dad's room. And my mom let me slip in,

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and she was like, oh, it's probably no cats fighting

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and this and that, and I was like, no, mom, Mom,

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there's a monster offside that broke the house. It broke

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the house. And she was like, no, no, no, you're

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a mistake, and just go to sleep and we'll look

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at it in the morning. So the next morning or

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the next day, it wasn't the next morning. The next day,

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my mom and my older brother come and picked us

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up from school in Johnson City, and my brother's like, hey, David,

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do you remember that what you here last night? I'm

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like yeah, and then he goes, just wait till we

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get home. I was like, okay. So we get home

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and my dad, who worked at the mill, and we

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were revill. He just got home and he was standing

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out there on the side of the trader with that

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plywood was nailed up and he's just standing there looking

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and all of us go walking up there and at

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the very top of that door, like I said, it

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was like a regular sized door, but the door was gone.

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It was just plywood. Was the plywood was pushed in

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at the very top and you could see like I'm

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going to say, claw marks, but you usedee gouges into

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in the plywood? What pushed it in at the very

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very top And my dad just standing there looking at it,

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and we're like cranking our heads up looking at this

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thing because that's the end of the trader where the

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ground sloped off, and it's still you know, like up

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at the top of that door. And my mom's like, chuck,

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what could have done that? And he's got that look.

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All this kids could see it. My mom could see

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it too, and he's got that look just looking at that,

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and he goes, I guess a big bear. And my

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mom's like, what kind of bear could do that? And

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he was like, I guess a big one. And so

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that was that was basically the end of anything that

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happened there. We ended up moving up to the property

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that we bought up and now the property we bought

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was up near Trinity Center, California, which is north from

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Weaverville on Highway three, and we lived out in the

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boundocks up on that road. And so at this date

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I can't tell you, I don't know. I would have

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a feeling that we lived up there for you know,

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like two to two to four years or something. So

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I might have been in that twelve thirteen year old

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range somewhere in there. And I just I, me and

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my younger brother now slept in the living room this

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single wide mobile home. We slept in the living room,

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My two sisters slept in the first bedroom in the hallway,

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and my mom dad slept in the back bedroom, and

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my older brother and my oldest so he had moved out,

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so it was just me and my younger brother and

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then my two sisters. So I had woke up in

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the middle of the night on that I stopt sleeping

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in the living room on the hide of bed couch

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and feeling like I had been choked. Like I woke

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up feeling like I was choking, and it scared me

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bad enough when I went up the hallway to my

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mom dad's bedroom, and my dad slept on the right

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hand side of the bed. My mom was sleep on

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the left, and I walked over to the mom and

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I was like, Mom, I can't breathe, and she's like,

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what do you mean. I was like, I feel like

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I'm being choked. And I have no idea how this

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ties into this story, but it's how it started, so

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I don't know if it does tie in or not.

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But so she was like, well, can you can you

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take in air? Can you breathe? And I was like yeah,

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but I feel like I was being choked. And she's like, well,

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just just climb in bed and you know, you'll be

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all right. So I remember, you know, just laying there

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on my back, and I had my eyes closed, and

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I was kind of still had my hand on my

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chest kind of by my throat, just kind of still,

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you know, glad that I was getting air. It was

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really strange, like my throat felt like it was closed up,

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I guess. And I was laying there with my eyes

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closed and trying to make myself go back to sleep.

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in the middle night sometime, And while I'm laying there

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with my eyes closed, I started seeing like flickering of

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light in my eyelids, kind of like if you're sitting

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around a campfire at night and you close your eyes,

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how you can see the flicker of the fire through

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your eyelids. And before I opened my eyes, I asked myself,

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you know, am I really seeing this? And so I

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concentrated and I could literally see like the light through

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my eyelids, and I could tell it was moving. So

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when I opened my eyes, when I opened my eyes,

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the room was already kind of starting to glow this

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red color, like like a red glow. And I'm sorry

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if this kind of goes over the deep end, Jeremiah,

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it's you know, it's a strange story and it's hard

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to even spit it out, but I'm just going to

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tell it, like what happened. And so I'm laying there,

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and when I opened my eyes, there's this red glow

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coming through the walls of my mom and dad's bedroom,

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like it was coming from the hallway. And when I

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came in there, I had shut the door and you know,

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to the room. And so I'm laying there. My mom's

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in the middle, my Dad's on the other side of

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the bed. I'm on the left side of the bed

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on my back, and I'm watching this red glow kind

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of sway back and forth, left and right, like it

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was going left, moving left and right, but getting brighter

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and brighter, and just right at the top of my

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mom and dad door, right where the wall met the ceiling,

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this red ball, red orb a little smaller than a basketball.

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It was probably like a foot in diameter or something

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like that. A red ball just you just comes right

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through the wall right there, right at the ceiling in

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the wall junction, and it's like sticking halfway in my

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mom and Dad's room. There's no sound, there's no smell.

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There's just this red ball and it looks like I

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always describe it as a red light and said it

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looked like lava, like molten lava. How it kind of

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turns and older, you know, being older, I was like, well,

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it was more like plasma. That looked like plasma, just

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turning and around the outside of that red ball was

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for like three feet around, three or four feet around.

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It was like this purple or a purple glow. And

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I couldn't see through the ball, but you could see

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through that purple like I could still see the paneling

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of the mobile home walls, the lines and the paneling.

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I could see that through that purple and from the

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red into the purple. It was throwing these white, big sparkles,

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like the sparklers for Fourth of July, just big sparkles,

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and when they got to the edge of that purple,

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they would go out. They'd never left that purple. They

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just stayed within that. And so I sit up, and

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it's beautiful. It's not scary at this point. I'm not

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freaking out. I'm just looking at this beautiful look like

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a big firework. And so I sit up and I

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put my left hand and my mom's hip. She's facing

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away from me, and like I said, the rooms all

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lit up red. I mean I could see around the room.

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I could see my mom and dad laying there. And

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I put my hand on my mom's hip and on

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my point at the light with my right hand, and

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I'm like, mom, look at that red light. And she

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doesn't move. I'm like, mom, look at that red light.

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And she literally started to lift her head up and

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laid it directly just right back down. And I'm looking

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at her side profile so I can see her mouth,

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and her mouth didn't move. But I heard Son in

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your dream and go back to sleep. And I'm like, no,

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I'm not mom, it's right there. And I turned back

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and looked at it, and I'm still pointing at it.

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My left hand is still on my mom's hip, and

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it's like as soon as I said no, I'm not mom,

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it's right there, I turn and it's like two three,

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And then now suddenly this is where gets really weird.

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So forgive me. But now I'm not in my mom

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and dad's room anymore, and I'm still pointing with my

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left hand is still in the same position and that

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it was. But now I'm standing there looking through like

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a clear wall, like a glass wall, looking out into stars,

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and kind of like waking up from the surgery or

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like passing out, how you kind of wake up and

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it takes a minute for your eyes to focus and

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for your mind to kind of get right for a second.

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And I just remember looking from out looking out that

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glass wall or a clear wall, then just looking down

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at my arm, my left arm, and I can see

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my pajamas. I can tell you exactly what pajamas I

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had on, long sleeve pajamas and holding my hand, my

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left hand now is this red haired, thick, black skinned

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wrinkles with black fingernails that kind of went to a point,

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like thick fingernails that kind of went to a point

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hand and my eyes just go right up that red arm.

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And here's this, My dad's sized bigfoot, just looking down

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at me. We're standing shoulders shoulder. He's on my left,

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I say he. I don't know if it was he

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or not. It was on my left and it's looking

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straight down at me and his eyes were like huge,

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like whites in his eyes, like surprised look looking at me.

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And he's it's holding mom's hand, and mom's holding dad's hand,

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and we're all me and the little one, and I

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say little. It is like the size of my dad

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had little compared to the other two. Mama was probably

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eight foot, looked just like the Patty bigfoot, but red

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haired Dad must have been ten feet tall or something.

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He was huge. And they're standing candy corner, but we're

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all four holding hands, and they're looking down at me

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with the same look in their eyes. And then I

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just my eyes go bo boom boom, look at those three.

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And then I looked to the right a little more,

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and standing with their back against the wall was two

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alien beams. One was like a prying mantis looking thing,

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had black oval shaped eyes, that brown side of its head,

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big jaws, like cheeks that weren't skin, they were bone,

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and they were kind of kind of like a dark

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brown but with black streaks, kind of like charcoal bone.

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That's the best I could describe it, kind of like

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if you char cold bone a little bit in a

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fire or something that look. And they had their back.

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It had its back to a wall, and the wall

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was kind of a cream color. I couldn't tell you

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what the ceiling and the floor looked like. I could

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tell you what else was in the room. I could

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just tell you know. It was like my eyes were directed.

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I looked at the three bigfoot and looked over to

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the right. There's this mantis looking thing standing there with us,

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back to a wall, and beside it was this blue,

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tall alien being with like a big, huge, perfectly round head,

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and its eyes were more almond shape, kind of like

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a gray alien, but were kind of silvery, like like

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the old coppers glasses. How they have that silver mirror

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to them that look, and I could see them the skin,

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you could see like the veins through the skin throughout

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the whole upper body and they're not looking at me.

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They're looking kind of to my right beside me, those

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two who were standing side by side, and they're tall.

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There's tall is the Bigfoot. I don't know if they

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were as tall as Mom or Dad, but they were

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both like in that eight nine foot tall, I would say,

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if I had to guess. And so my eyes go

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from them and I looked to the right. Right beside me,

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literally standing probably a couple of feet from me, was

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a little gray alien being looking up at them, at

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the two aliens, the two tall aliens, and it's head's

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bobbing during kind of like a bobblehead, and it's not

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making no sound of it. You could tell. I could

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tell that it was communicating with those two. And then

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as soon as I look at that and see the

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head bobbing, it turns and looks at me. And we're

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pretty close to the same eyes. I was probably a

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little taller, but I just remember it turned and looked

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at me. And then the next thing I know is

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I'm walking coming kind of coming out of that same

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waking up from a surgery or passing out feeling starting

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to come to, and I'm walking up the hallway like

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from my mom and dad's room while walking up the

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hallway back towards the living room, and I hear in

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my head, I hear drink pickle juice. Drink pickle juice.

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So I just remember going to the kitchen, opened the

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fridge and popped open the jar pickles and just chugged

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pickle juice and crawled back in bed with my brother,

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and that was that was the end of that. That

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was the last thing I remember. For years and years,

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the family only remembered me talking about the red light.

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And it was probably ten or fifteen years ago. I

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just happened to be watching I wasn't watching. I was

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flipping through the channels and Ancient Aliens was on, and

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I kind of, I wonder what these crackpots are about

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a little bit, so I was like, I'm gonna check

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it out and see what they're talking about. The first

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thing they showed was that same red orb going through

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like military bases and going in and out of like

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missile silos and stuff like that, going through walls and

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all that. And I just literally jumped up and ran

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into the bedroom and got my wife. I'm like, babe, baby,

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you gotta come see. She ran in there and I

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was like, that's what I saw right there, and it

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was literally had peers. It wasn't like I was, but

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I literally had like these tears in my eyes from

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emotions because I didn't think about anybody else seeing that

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I already ever talked about it ever, and then to

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see it just it really it was profound and I

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couldn't believe that I just was looking at what I saw.

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And so that was pretty much the end of that

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junction of the Junction City and then at Trinity Center Experiences.

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So oh, I haven't completely lost so far.

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But so I I want to talk a little bit

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about the the abduction just because I mean, it's so

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unique to this show. That's it's something that that really

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does not come up. So man, it's so the way

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that the Bigfoot looked to you in there. Were they

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well I guess you said one of them actually did

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look like Patty, didn't you.

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Yeah, they all look yeah.

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Yeah, that's so so interesting. And I mean you're you're

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what probably around eleven to twelve at this time.

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I'm thinking it was, yeah, between between ten and fourteen,

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and I would say twelve ish is white in the ballpark.

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I honestly couldn't tell you exactly what year.

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It was, Okay, and I mean not on any substances

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at all.

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Right, what with that?

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No, no substance use at all at that, you know, No, no, nope,

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that's that's so so interesting. Why do you think that

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the pickle juice was all all about that? That's one

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of the most interesting parts.

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You know, the people like talked about that, you know

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too when I told I told my story on a

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couple other places too, But you know, me and you

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were trying to hook this up. It's been a while

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since we were trying to get together to tell it.

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That people saying that that's a common theme for like

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the dehydration, and another one was saying it could help

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for like shock. Somebody was saying, for like shock, I

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have no idea. And you know how you hear yourself

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when you're like have a thought in your head, you

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kind of hear your own little voice in your head,

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not like schizophrenia, but your own monologue in your head.

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It was my voice saying, drink pickle juice, drink pickle juice.

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And I I have no idea why it said that,

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you know, or why that would be important or not.

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I don't know, but I do feel like you that

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there's got to be something to that.

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Yeah, there's got to be some scientific I like the

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ideas that those other people came up with though dehydration,

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et cetera.

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Man, how I got to tell you, Yeah, it felt

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like the Bigfoot were abducted like me. That's what it

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felt like. And when I told no, when I get

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into detail, I know, we're a kind of amount of

458
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time thing, but I tell people like, oh, man, I

459
00:26:40.319 --> 00:26:42.680
bet you were scared or freak out or this and that,

460
00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:44.599
and I was like, you know what, there was like

461
00:26:44.799 --> 00:26:48.799
zero emotion nothing. It was how I said, It would

462
00:26:48.839 --> 00:26:50.839
be like if you were sitting in a big room

463
00:26:51.160 --> 00:26:52.559
and you had a bunch of people in there, a

464
00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:54.240
bunch of people you knew something you didn't and you're

465
00:26:54.279 --> 00:26:56.279
just sitting off the side and you're just looking around,

466
00:26:56.680 --> 00:26:59.480
like looking around, just seeing what was going on. That's

467
00:26:59.519 --> 00:27:05.680
what it felt like. There was no fear. I don't

468
00:27:05.680 --> 00:27:08.119
know if my eyes were big, like the Bigfoot eyes

469
00:27:08.200 --> 00:27:11.759
were big, but they had like that total surprise look

470
00:27:11.880 --> 00:27:16.599
on their face. And I have a feeling that they

471
00:27:16.640 --> 00:27:21.519
were in the same predicament I was. And the strangest

472
00:27:21.519 --> 00:27:23.640
thing about this, jere mind. We didn't have really TV.

473
00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:26.559
We had like your We didn't have like, you know,

474
00:27:26.680 --> 00:27:29.720
satellite or anything like that, just you're basic like ABC

475
00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:32.519
and PBS channel back in the day. So I didn't

476
00:27:32.519 --> 00:27:34.640
get to watch anything that could have put that in

477
00:27:34.680 --> 00:27:39.079
my mind. But we had these neighbors. The closest neighbor

478
00:27:39.119 --> 00:27:41.039
that lived to us lived down the hill from us,

479
00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:46.319
and there was a man and the daughter and was

480
00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:48.920
married to this man who was like thirty four or

481
00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:53.000
something at the time, but his mental status was like

482
00:27:53.240 --> 00:27:55.279
the same age as me and my little brother. We

483
00:27:55.319 --> 00:28:00.319
would play like kids out there, and that family used

484
00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:04.759
to tell us that they fed a family of bigfoot

485
00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:07.599
red hair bigfoot, a mom and dad and a young

486
00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:11.160
one off their deck by hand, and we used to

487
00:28:11.240 --> 00:28:13.720
kind of knock to their face that like kind of

488
00:28:13.839 --> 00:28:16.920
laugh at them, like, man, these people are crazy, you

489
00:28:17.000 --> 00:28:21.200
know what I mean, They are weird. And then that happened,

490
00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:24.920
and you know, late on life, after I kind of

491
00:28:24.960 --> 00:28:28.119
start putting two and two together, It's like, well, it

492
00:28:28.240 --> 00:28:30.559
makes sense and it kind of fits. And I think

493
00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:33.680
that those that family was abducted, not the people, but

494
00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:36.920
the family of Bigfoot. I believe was abducted.

495
00:28:36.920 --> 00:28:39.960
At the same time, I was, oh, yeah, sure, I

496
00:28:39.960 --> 00:28:43.079
mean that's why. And they're feeding them by hand. That

497
00:28:43.240 --> 00:28:48.160
is wild. I mean I've heard of an individual leaving

498
00:28:49.359 --> 00:28:51.799
food on the back porch and then they were eating

499
00:28:51.839 --> 00:28:56.079
off the back porch by hand. That is that's a

500
00:28:56.119 --> 00:28:59.480
whole different ballgame. And this all happened in Trinity Center.

501
00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:05.079
You're saying, yes, there's a little place. It's actually about

502
00:29:05.119 --> 00:29:09.279
six miles before Trinity Center. There's a little community. It's

503
00:29:09.319 --> 00:29:13.160
kind of mostly summer homes and there it's just a

504
00:29:13.240 --> 00:29:15.640
road that kind of winds up. It's called Covington Mill

505
00:29:16.359 --> 00:29:19.039
and that is the actual name of the place where

506
00:29:19.079 --> 00:29:23.920
this all happened. But yes, by Trinity Center, and it's

507
00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:27.680
wooly and if you look at it from like the

508
00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:31.559
the Patterson Gimmon Fight as the crow flies, I think

509
00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:34.240
it's like fifty miles or something from there.

510
00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:38.680
Yeah, I mean it's it's in that area. I mean,

511
00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:44.240
you've got Mount Shasta northeast of it, and Dunsmore can

512
00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:48.079
get some interesting stuff comes out. I mean, you're in

513
00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:48.880
that whole area.

514
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:49.240
Dude.

515
00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:51.799
It's it's wild. Have you looked to see if there's

516
00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:56.799
been other abductions in that area over the years.

517
00:29:56.240 --> 00:29:59.519
I actually have not. I did at one point look

518
00:29:59.680 --> 00:30:03.480
for like just bigfoot reports and stuff like that, and

519
00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:06.799
I don't recall seeing any. I know, there's a lot

520
00:30:06.839 --> 00:30:09.000
of weird stuff to go on around Mount Shasta, a

521
00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:12.440
lot of war about and stuff. And then you got

522
00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:14.599
hoop Are on the other side of the mountains right there,

523
00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:18.000
and Willow Creek and stuff like that. It's all right

524
00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:22.519
there in the same general area. So a lot of history,

525
00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:23.119
for sure.

526
00:30:25.039 --> 00:30:32.640
Is this abduction something that you find laying over in

527
00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:34.720
your mind a lot or.

528
00:30:39.680 --> 00:30:44.240
I you know, since I've been an adult, you know,

529
00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:48.720
I'm waging an adult now. But I did not ever

530
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:51.559
talk about it growing up, the duction part. I never

531
00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:54.240
told none of my family about it ever, kind of

532
00:30:54.279 --> 00:30:59.000
just buried it down and always talked about the red

533
00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:02.200
light that came into mom Dad's room. And they remember

534
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:05.359
me telling them about, you know, trying to wake mom up.

535
00:31:05.440 --> 00:31:08.279
And my mom doesn't remember, my dad doesn't remember. And

536
00:31:08.319 --> 00:31:10.400
my mom was one of those ones like when I

537
00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:12.279
first went in there, when I felt like I was choking,

538
00:31:13.079 --> 00:31:15.200
she wakes up when one of his kids went into

539
00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:20.200
the room. She was awake immediately and when I was

540
00:31:20.240 --> 00:31:21.839
trying to have my hand on her, had the same

541
00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:24.200
mom and the room was lit up. Mom looked at

542
00:31:24.200 --> 00:31:27.279
that red light. She didn't wake up. And I find

543
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:31.759
that very fascinating too. And I believe when I was

544
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:36.839
on board that my eyes were being directed at what

545
00:31:36.920 --> 00:31:38.720
I could look at, because, like I said, it wasn't

546
00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:40.720
like I looked around like I was looking around the

547
00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:43.640
room just checking everything out, just like looked at the

548
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:45.640
hand hold of mine when up its arms, looked him

549
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:48.680
in the eye, looked at the hand you know, followed

550
00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:51.519
the arms to Mama, looked into her face, looked at

551
00:31:51.599 --> 00:31:53.920
Daddy's face, and then looked over at the two aliens,

552
00:31:53.960 --> 00:31:56.359
and looked at the grave beside me. And it was

553
00:31:56.359 --> 00:31:58.079
like it looked at me and a bang and I

554
00:31:58.200 --> 00:32:01.440
was back in the hallway. So it felt like I

555
00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:07.359
was being directed at what I could see.

556
00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:12.240
In years since then, you know, let's say, watching things

557
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:17.680
on TV or in movies, have you ever seen depictions

558
00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:21.200
of aliens or creatures that were very close to what

559
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:25.240
you saw in that ship that day?

560
00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:30.759
So the gray looked like you're staying or gray, you know.

561
00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:32.880
And there's a lot of movies kind of have as

562
00:32:33.079 --> 00:32:36.000
like a standard little three or four foot tall gray alien,

563
00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:45.440
black almond eyes, gracean like elongated head that common the

564
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:49.000
other one looking at like. I've went on my computer

565
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:51.920
over the years and just like looked up different alien

566
00:32:51.960 --> 00:32:56.319
types the mantis being. Seems that they depict some of

567
00:32:56.319 --> 00:33:00.559
them seem fairly close to what I saw. The blue

568
00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:03.880
one there is, you know, and they have like pictures

569
00:33:03.920 --> 00:33:06.559
of the not real pictures sketches or whatever of the

570
00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:11.079
blue one. I have not seen anything that completely. I

571
00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:14.119
would be like, yes, that's exactly what I saw if

572
00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:18.400
I had, if anybody seen the movie Signs that those aliens,

573
00:33:18.440 --> 00:33:22.240
that was like the body type of it, but it

574
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:26.400
had like a ball round head, like a big round head,

575
00:33:26.400 --> 00:33:29.519
and was blue and had big veins in it and

576
00:33:30.440 --> 00:33:35.240
silver eyes. So those two I have not seen really

577
00:33:35.319 --> 00:33:40.400
any movies that I could recall that depicted those two beings.

578
00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:45.359
That's that's really interesting. Yeas Signs freaked me out when

579
00:33:45.359 --> 00:33:49.279
I was younger. It's not that crazy either, but it's

580
00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:51.960
just like very suspenseful and that I don't really get

581
00:33:51.960 --> 00:33:55.480
into that stuff. I'm in a big foot, but it's like, yeah, no,

582
00:33:56.240 --> 00:33:58.240
kind of draw the line at Signs. I guess. But

583
00:33:59.240 --> 00:34:02.359
did you have any things happened to you as you

584
00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:06.960
as you got older that might be related to seeing

585
00:34:07.000 --> 00:34:11.440
these aliens?

586
00:34:11.480 --> 00:34:15.599
Not? Not really. I mean I've seen stuff in the sky.

587
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:18.079
I mean my wife where we're living at right now

588
00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:21.199
here in Queues Bay. We've lived here at this house

589
00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:25.960
for like sixteen or seventeen years. We've seen pretty good

590
00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:30.199
stuff here, but not like life forms or anything like that,

591
00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:33.760
just like UFOs by definition stuff We couldn't tell you

592
00:34:33.800 --> 00:34:37.559
what they were. Definitely didn't seem like they were the

593
00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:41.679
dreaded drone or you know, or a plane or anything

594
00:34:41.719 --> 00:34:44.760
like that. Like they seem to be actual UFOs and

595
00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:51.320
really that yeah, nothing like some An interesting and interesting

596
00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:55.519
note is that I am OURH negative blood. A lot

597
00:34:55.519 --> 00:34:58.119
of people who pass that, are you ourhe negative? I

598
00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:02.320
am for sure, I just you're ago. Had they drew

599
00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:04.599
blood to just do my urity check up and I

600
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:07.039
asked them, I say, hey, what's my blood type? So

601
00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:10.639
that I am alage negative, so that might be something

602
00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:12.719
that ties in with that. I have no idea.

603
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:16.519
What was your reaction when you found that out that

604
00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:17.480
that's your blood type.

605
00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:22.320
I would have to say I was kind of like, uh,

606
00:35:22.920 --> 00:35:27.239
you know that kind of thing, like kind of like

607
00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:31.960
another piece that fit. I guess if each negative blood

608
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:33.159
is it has truth to it.

609
00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:36.880
So I think I think there's a lot of truth

610
00:35:36.920 --> 00:35:40.840
to that. I mean a lot of individuals I talked

611
00:35:40.880 --> 00:35:43.960
to where they have weird stuff happened. I mean, that's

612
00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:48.880
that's the blood type. It's very very interesting these So

613
00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:52.719
the two things that you've shared so far, when you

614
00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:55.440
got older, did you ever have a conversation with either

615
00:35:55.440 --> 00:35:58.920
of your parents about either of those things that happened?

616
00:36:01.320 --> 00:36:06.159
So my mom and dad they were like really closed

617
00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:13.199
minded to that kind of stuff. Anything abnormal was like demonistic,

618
00:36:13.400 --> 00:36:15.280
you know what I mean, or just it was like

619
00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:18.079
dark and didn't want nothing to do with it. But

620
00:36:18.239 --> 00:36:21.840
my mom mostly like she passed away a couple of

621
00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:25.320
years ago, and before she did, me and my sister.

622
00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:27.800
My sister really ended up big Foot and team stuff too.

623
00:36:28.320 --> 00:36:30.719
The next story comes up she was involved with this,

624
00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:34.800
But we're like, Mom, do you remember that in Juncton

625
00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:37.719
City when it broke Probably She's like yeah, I'm like, mom,

626
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:40.199
do you remember how that back into the trader was

627
00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:42.400
off the ground like by three or four feet or

628
00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:44.800
something like that. She's like, yeah, and I said, so

629
00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:47.320
a standard door is like what seven foot or something

630
00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:49.880
like that, So that means the top of that door

631
00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:53.360
was close to like ten feet off the ground and

632
00:36:53.400 --> 00:36:55.599
that's where it broke. It was up there, I said, Mom,

633
00:36:55.639 --> 00:36:58.440
Bears don't reach up as high as they can, and

634
00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:00.800
there ain't a black bear in California that I that

635
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:03.880
I know of that could reach up ten feet and

636
00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:06.320
have the power to push in play with like that.

637
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:08.960
But she was like, yeah, yeah, I can see that.

638
00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:11.519
And I was like, and Mom, one other thing is

639
00:37:11.559 --> 00:37:15.400
you don't hear bears go boom boom boom walking around

640
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:18.320
the house. And she's like yeah, and as I can.

641
00:37:18.360 --> 00:37:20.440
And Chartie found the footprint Mom, and then we heard

642
00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:23.599
the scream. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just don't I just

643
00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:26.280
think it was all ant you know, stuff you can

644
00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:30.480
that had ever answer is basically how she put it.

645
00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:34.880
I would not believe that it is.

646
00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:38.679
That's really interesting. Yeah, I mean some people do not

647
00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:42.559
want to cross that line. I totally get it. Yeah,

648
00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:47.159
I've experienced that myself and with relatives, and it's just

649
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:51.440
that they don't want to cross that line. And I

650
00:37:51.519 --> 00:37:55.079
get it, you know, I crossed the line, like I've

651
00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:59.760
crossed that line. You've crossed that line too. Yeah, we're

652
00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:03.400
both tries that line. So no problem there. But I

653
00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:05.400
can get you know, there are people out there where

654
00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:09.239
the like, you know, I like knowing how life works

655
00:38:09.400 --> 00:38:19.239
and staying on this side where everything is okay and manageable. Right, yeah, yeah,

656
00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:20.719
but uh, yep, there's more.

657
00:38:20.760 --> 00:38:25.360
Gold was a logger. He worked like, operated a cat

658
00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:29.679
a bulldozer for logging. And they cut this road in

659
00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:32.440
in between Weaverville and Traney Center, right by Trinity Lake.

660
00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:35.760
Cut this road into old growth for you know, like

661
00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:40.159
giant ten foot diameter trees and stuff. Worked until night

662
00:38:40.280 --> 00:38:42.960
on the end up there, it's like red clay mud,

663
00:38:43.679 --> 00:38:46.360
and cut this road in. Never been cut a road

664
00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:49.519
in there before. Cut this road in. Next morning, they

665
00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:53.079
get there at like four thirty the diesel, you know,

666
00:38:53.119 --> 00:38:55.920
fuel up the cat and stuff, and he said, here

667
00:38:55.920 --> 00:39:00.320
were these gianormous footprints coming out of the woods. Walked

668
00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:02.440
around the cat and walked right back down in the wood.

669
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:04.719
I'm like, Dad, so what do you think that could be?

670
00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:07.079
He's like, we think it was a hoax or trying

671
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:09.079
to scare us off, trying to shut down the logging.

672
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:11.400
I'm like, really, so they came out of these woods

673
00:39:11.400 --> 00:39:15.039
where there's no road near there, walked around the cat

674
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:17.119
only and then walked back into the woods. That's how

675
00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:19.760
they're gonna host sh it. Yep, yep.

676
00:39:19.880 --> 00:39:24.920
Okay, all right, that's wild, I mean, and that's that's

677
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:31.920
early eighties. You said, right, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, wow, gonness,

678
00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:37.360
that's just that's so so intense. Now, David, you also

679
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:41.199
have a third experience that you would that you're wanting

680
00:39:41.239 --> 00:39:42.400
to share it tonight. Correct.

681
00:39:43.639 --> 00:39:52.280
Yes, yes, sir, this happened in right here near Crews Bay.

682
00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:54.519
It's placed a lot of the people I know when

683
00:39:54.559 --> 00:39:56.880
we were in your chat on a couple of shows ago,

684
00:39:56.960 --> 00:39:58.800
people are like, oh, yeah, I know the Elliott So

685
00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:05.480
this was in the Elliotts twoenty nineteen, and me and

686
00:40:05.519 --> 00:40:10.320
my wife were be hunting Elk and we got up there.

687
00:40:10.360 --> 00:40:14.440
So Elk season starts at on Saturday morning. We got

688
00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:18.880
up there at Thursday evening, probably about an hour before

689
00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:22.480
dark or so. And as soon as we get there,

690
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:24.159
I got my camper off the back of my truck.

691
00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:27.000
We had a cab over camper, took that off my

692
00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:29.639
truck and my sister Cindy, who were just talking about

693
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:32.840
who's into the big footing. She followed us up there

694
00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:35.079
in her car and she had never been up there before.

695
00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:38.519
She followed us up there in the car and she

696
00:40:38.599 --> 00:40:39.840
was just going to sleep in her car with her

697
00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:42.000
two little dogs, and me and my wife had our

698
00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:46.880
camper and want our little dog. And so we get there.

699
00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:49.199
I get the camper off at gets me toward ers,

700
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:51.400
like about twenty minutes left a light. So I was like, hey,

701
00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:52.679
do you want you guys want me to run and

702
00:40:52.679 --> 00:40:54.320
get my trail camera real quick because I had a

703
00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:56.679
trail camera up there for like two months, you know,

704
00:40:56.880 --> 00:40:58.800
just scouting for elk and stuff. And they're like yeah.

705
00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:00.960
So I ran up there and got my camp, got

706
00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:02.800
back right at dark. We checked up the pictures and

707
00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:05.239
there was just like elekin deer on it. Nothing weird.

708
00:41:06.480 --> 00:41:08.679
And so we're setting up camp and it's probably about

709
00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:13.280
ten o'clock and my sister's like, we got company and

710
00:41:13.559 --> 00:41:16.239
I'm like what do you mean. She goes, you didn't

711
00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:17.800
hear that, and I was like no. She's like, there

712
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:19.920
was just a big bang. It sounds like train off,

713
00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:21.760
but a big bang up the hill right there. And

714
00:41:21.760 --> 00:41:24.079
I'm like, Cindy, there is nobody up there, I promise.

715
00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:27.239
And so in the area at Stave Forest, we're like

716
00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:33.119
eleven miles up this gravel road to get to the turnoff,

717
00:41:33.199 --> 00:41:36.480
and it's on the nine thousand road. Your map probably

718
00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:38.800
won't show you very much on that, but it was

719
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:42.840
on the nine thousand road. We drove down that. I

720
00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:45.119
think it's about three miles down that. So we're like

721
00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:48.800
a total about fourteen miles up into the woods and

722
00:41:48.840 --> 00:41:51.760
we're just pulled over on the edge of the gravel camping.

723
00:41:53.679 --> 00:41:56.079
One camp was about five miles away from us, and

724
00:41:56.119 --> 00:41:58.199
that was the only camp that was up there, the

725
00:41:58.239 --> 00:42:02.280
only other camp, And so I was like, Cindy, there's

726
00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:05.480
nobody up there, I promise. We're in this valley. There's

727
00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:07.800
like a behind our camp. On the one side, it's

728
00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:10.239
like drops down off the road about ten feet and

729
00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:12.519
there's a big flat goes to a creek and then

730
00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:14.480
it goes up the side of the mountain. On the

731
00:42:14.519 --> 00:42:16.320
other side of the road we were a camp just

732
00:42:16.320 --> 00:42:18.880
goes straight up the hill and it's just like thick

733
00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:23.039
thick dick, like they clear the young trees and just

734
00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:27.880
left them slash slash piles everywhere. So you couldn't already

735
00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:29.519
get through there, and she was like, the noise came

736
00:42:29.559 --> 00:42:31.920
from right there, and I was like, yeah, there's nobody

737
00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:34.000
up there. So it's kind of like red flag right there.

738
00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:40.320
And so long story short, because we were up there

739
00:42:40.320 --> 00:42:43.800
for nine nine days and every day and every night

740
00:42:44.360 --> 00:42:48.400
there was what sounded like big knocks, just just knocks,

741
00:42:48.559 --> 00:42:50.480
and then at one point we heard like a knock

742
00:42:50.679 --> 00:42:54.800
and then like brush like it was running through the brush.

743
00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:58.400
And I'm just writing everything off, like Cindy, because me

744
00:42:58.440 --> 00:43:00.639
and my wife were just like we we've hunted up

745
00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:04.599
the fourteen years and we camped up there the one

746
00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:07.280
whole elk season, the whole month in a tent and

747
00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:09.719
never had anything happen. This is all the first time

748
00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:13.519
out of fourteen years of being up there, and so

749
00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:16.400
I'm writing everything off, writ and everything off, and then,

750
00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:19.599
like I'd say, it was probably like the fifth day

751
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:23.679
we're up there. My sister's in the back seat of

752
00:43:23.679 --> 00:43:26.280
my truck, my wife's driving, and I'm in the passenger seat,

753
00:43:26.280 --> 00:43:27.719
and we're going to drive to this one spot and

754
00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:30.639
we're going to get out walk this blocked off road

755
00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:33.239
and we come around the corner and there's a herd

756
00:43:33.280 --> 00:43:36.000
elk on my side down the hill, and they're not

757
00:43:36.119 --> 00:43:38.400
spread out like a normal herd would be. They were

758
00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:42.440
like in a circle, like just bunched up. And there

759
00:43:42.559 --> 00:43:46.159
was a legal bull and that herd, and he was

760
00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:49.000
kind of walking on the outside of him that like

761
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:51.440
he was wanting to walk off, that he would turn

762
00:43:51.480 --> 00:43:53.679
around and walk back to the herd. They do that

763
00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:55.800
kind of standard, but you know, like they're going to

764
00:43:55.880 --> 00:43:58.519
keep other bulls away from their cows. But the way

765
00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:00.920
they were all hunched up, and I'm like, okay. So

766
00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:03.400
my sister stayed in the truck and me and my

767
00:44:03.440 --> 00:44:05.639
wife get out and we're getting the wind right and

768
00:44:05.679 --> 00:44:07.400
getting to where they can't see us. And we walk

769
00:44:07.480 --> 00:44:10.199
up the road and we cut off down through the

770
00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:13.000
brush and it's really thick, you know, really thick brush

771
00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:16.840
up there, salow and huckleberries and just thick brush, and

772
00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:20.159
so we're kind of making noise, sneaking down, sneaky, but

773
00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:23.440
we're making noise, so like right in our ears is noise.

774
00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:26.599
And my sister said, as soon as we left the road,

775
00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:34.360
there was like three different knocks from three different directions,

776
00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:37.239
like they had those elks surrounded and those knocks came

777
00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:40.360
from each side of those elk as soon as we

778
00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:43.199
left the road, and we didn't hear it. Me and

779
00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:46.559
my wife didn't hear it. And so my sister's kind

780
00:44:46.559 --> 00:44:48.880
of from the road, she can kind of get glimpses

781
00:44:48.920 --> 00:44:50.679
of us going through the brush, kind of working our

782
00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:53.239
way off down that road below that road, sneaking up

783
00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:56.079
those elks, and the elk kind of start moving off,

784
00:44:56.920 --> 00:45:00.559
and she says, right behind us, like twentyears, three thirty yards,

785
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:03.480
she goes, I'm not kidding, brother, there was something black

786
00:45:03.679 --> 00:45:07.960
following you and ded through the brush. And I'm like, well,

787
00:45:08.280 --> 00:45:10.559
it could have been a bull, you know, another elk

788
00:45:11.119 --> 00:45:14.559
with like the black name that they have. And she's like, well,

789
00:45:14.760 --> 00:45:17.039
I heard three knocks right before I saw it. So

790
00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:19.679
I'm just telling you. And I'm like, okay, okay, I

791
00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:24.760
believe you. And so now we get to where it

792
00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:29.480
kind of gets really interesting. So it's probably the sixth

793
00:45:29.559 --> 00:45:31.880
or seventh night it kind of all adds up. I

794
00:45:31.880 --> 00:45:33.960
have it wrote down somewhere, but I mean it's so

795
00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:37.639
burned in my memory that you know, I pretty much

796
00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:42.559
can tell her word for word. But we uh on

797
00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:45.000
most of the night, on all the nights leading up

798
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:48.039
to this, I had my twelve gage shotgun that I

799
00:45:48.039 --> 00:45:50.079
would lean against the back of my camper when we

800
00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:52.159
were sitting out there, because we'd sit out there till

801
00:45:52.199 --> 00:45:55.400
like ten or eleven, just you know, talking and we're

802
00:45:55.480 --> 00:45:58.360
camping and that it was great and you should. We

803
00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:03.679
had a lantern burning, and this night I had my

804
00:46:03.719 --> 00:46:07.280
little head my little Walmart special headlamp on and I

805
00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:10.559
had it on the green setting and we only had

806
00:46:10.639 --> 00:46:13.519
a mosquito candle burning for light. We didn't even have

807
00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:17.360
a lantern or nothing. And I left my shotgun inside

808
00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:22.480
the camper. And every time my sister smoked cigarettes, and

809
00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:24.400
so when she would get up to move away from

810
00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:26.159
me and my wife so the smoke went goodbye, she

811
00:46:26.159 --> 00:46:29.480
would step up into that gravel road and smoke. So

812
00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:31.199
when she would do that, I would get up and

813
00:46:31.239 --> 00:46:33.119
just turn on my headlamp, you know, and look around

814
00:46:33.199 --> 00:46:35.559
just to make sure it's good. So she gets up

815
00:46:35.599 --> 00:46:38.960
to smoke, and it's about ten thirty at night, and

816
00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:41.360
me and my wife are kind of getting ready to

817
00:46:41.400 --> 00:46:43.559
go faed, but she gets up to smoke, so I

818
00:46:43.559 --> 00:46:46.880
step up with her, and I shine my headlamp directly

819
00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:49.320
across the road because that was kind of the closest trees.

820
00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:51.480
And I looked to the right, and then I turned

821
00:46:51.480 --> 00:46:56.159
to the left, and as I'm walking, I'm just kind

822
00:46:56.159 --> 00:46:57.960
of her I'm shining. I'm kind of walk in the

823
00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:00.559
direction I'm shining to my light. So I and start

824
00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:03.280
walking back to the left and hit the road or

825
00:47:03.480 --> 00:47:06.960
my headlamp hits the road, and I was like, boom,

826
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:12.280
we got we got eyes. And there was the giant,

827
00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:18.320
giant size and spread of eyeballs like thirty yards away

828
00:47:18.360 --> 00:47:21.480
from me, right on the edge of the gravel road,

829
00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:25.039
but down now, like a couple of feet off the ground,

830
00:47:26.079 --> 00:47:30.559
and they're just burning, big reflective eyeballs. I'm like, we

831
00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:34.280
got eyes like that. My sister's like what. She turns

832
00:47:34.320 --> 00:47:36.960
around and walked it to me. She's like, oh, just

833
00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:40.360
like starts hyperventilating, and I can hear the gravel. She's

834
00:47:40.400 --> 00:47:42.599
walking back and she gets to her car, she like

835
00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:44.559
rolls up the window on her car so her dog

836
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:47.280
would jump out. And I'm still just standing there looking

837
00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:49.519
at and this thing is not blinking, it's not turning,

838
00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:54.039
it's not doing anything. And I'm not taking my eyes off.

839
00:47:54.119 --> 00:47:58.480
I'm just staring at it. And I can hear her

840
00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:00.440
walk back up to me and look at it again,

841
00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:04.519
and uh like hyperventilates, and she walks back towards your car.

842
00:48:05.039 --> 00:48:07.159
And about that time, when she's walking by my light,

843
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:11.599
my life, she's like really hard to hear. She's still

844
00:48:11.639 --> 00:48:14.239
sitting in her camp chair next to the camper. She

845
00:48:14.280 --> 00:48:16.159
can see it. She's just looking at it, sitting there,

846
00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:18.639
and I was like, bib, I need the flashlight in

847
00:48:18.679 --> 00:48:22.239
the gun right now. And I heard her get up

848
00:48:22.320 --> 00:48:24.679
and she's going into camper and like here dutop, dup doom.

849
00:48:24.719 --> 00:48:26.800
She's in there getting the flashlight in my shotgun. I'm

850
00:48:26.840 --> 00:48:30.320
at this point, I'm honestly, I'm thinking my bear. That's

851
00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:32.679
just what I'm thinking. It's like a bear. But the

852
00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:36.280
eyes were huge and far apart. Bears are not. And

853
00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:39.920
I can hear the gravel. She's walking upside me and mean,

854
00:48:39.960 --> 00:48:44.159
this thing are still logged on. And she comes up

855
00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:47.239
and she bumps my left arm and literally has the

856
00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:50.719
shotgun and our flashlightight right there. So I take my

857
00:48:50.760 --> 00:48:52.719
eyes off it, grab it and turn and look and

858
00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:55.559
hit the light and that being was gone, I mean,

859
00:48:55.719 --> 00:48:59.000
like not there, and I'm I'm expecting to shoot a

860
00:48:59.039 --> 00:49:04.079
bear honestly and or just scare a bear off. And

861
00:49:04.119 --> 00:49:06.840
this thing's gone and it's rainforest on both sides, and

862
00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:09.360
I'm thinking, you know, I'm like where to go? Where

863
00:49:09.400 --> 00:49:10.960
to go? And they're like, I don't know, I don't know,

864
00:49:11.039 --> 00:49:13.639
and it's like where did it go out? And I

865
00:49:13.719 --> 00:49:15.039
was like, okay, do you guys want me to just

866
00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:17.440
go ahead and fire shot off? Just come of Still

867
00:49:17.639 --> 00:49:19.840
my brain's still trying to tell me it was an animal,

868
00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:22.960
and they're like, yeah, I do, I do it. So

869
00:49:23.000 --> 00:49:24.480
I just pointed in my shotgun up in the air

870
00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:28.079
and boom, fired it off. So we talked for a

871
00:49:28.119 --> 00:49:31.880
little while and went to bed, and the next morning,

872
00:49:31.920 --> 00:49:34.280
instead of going getting up and just going straight hunting,

873
00:49:34.360 --> 00:49:36.440
we wanted to wait till daylight and just walked down

874
00:49:36.480 --> 00:49:39.000
there down the road that thirty yards or so and

875
00:49:39.159 --> 00:49:41.679
look at where it was, you know, where it was

876
00:49:41.719 --> 00:49:44.639
at when it was happening. You could see like scuf

877
00:49:44.679 --> 00:49:47.039
marks on the hard pack gravel where it looked like

878
00:49:47.079 --> 00:49:50.920
it pushed itself back off that road, and it, like

879
00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:52.639
I said, on that side of the road, it dropped

880
00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:56.199
down about between six and ten feet, you know, depending

881
00:49:56.239 --> 00:49:58.000
on where you're out on that road down to a

882
00:49:58.440 --> 00:50:01.800
really thick tree act and it goes back to that

883
00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:05.880
creek and then up the hill. Well, somehow that thing

884
00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:10.239
got out of there in an instant. I mean I

885
00:50:10.280 --> 00:50:12.000
didn't take my eyes off it and look at my

886
00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:15.360
wife walking up and give it, you know, ten seconds

887
00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:17.639
to run off. She bunt my arm and I literally

888
00:50:17.719 --> 00:50:21.239
just like turned grab it and turned back at the

889
00:50:21.239 --> 00:50:24.840
the road and it was gone. So that was that

890
00:50:25.199 --> 00:50:27.800
raise of like really big red flag, Like, man, I

891
00:50:27.800 --> 00:50:31.880
don't the not hearing it run off is what spooked

892
00:50:31.920 --> 00:50:35.000
me the most. I guess it's like there's no way

893
00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:39.039
you could a bear or an elk or whatever it

894
00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:41.440
could have ran off at like full speed. It would

895
00:50:41.480 --> 00:50:44.039
have to just like bolted and not made a sound.

896
00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:50.239
So now we're gonna just for time's sake, we'll flash

897
00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:57.519
flash forward to nine nine, so it's getting dark and

898
00:50:57.960 --> 00:51:01.199
or at the same spot. And every night and every day,

899
00:51:01.239 --> 00:51:03.599
like I said, is there's stuff happening that you could

900
00:51:03.679 --> 00:51:08.719
associate with animals or bigfoot or whatever. Just stuff happening.

901
00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:13.840
Noises and stumps sound like they're being torn apart, and

902
00:51:14.400 --> 00:51:17.519
knocks and just stick pop here and there, which is

903
00:51:17.559 --> 00:51:19.840
normal in the woods. But just everything was adding up

904
00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:25.599
to this. So night number nine getting dark and sudden

905
00:51:25.719 --> 00:51:30.920
we hear this, you know, like a hood al bardal.

906
00:51:31.719 --> 00:51:37.000
And so my sister she's getting her her drink on

907
00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:42.199
me and my wife did not drink, still don't, no drugs,

908
00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:45.840
nothing like that. Were totally one hundred percent sober. And

909
00:51:46.079 --> 00:51:48.760
she's having a good time laughing and trying to answer

910
00:51:48.760 --> 00:51:51.039
the owl back, and the owl would kind of answer

911
00:51:51.079 --> 00:51:52.960
back to her, but he would answer back. It would

912
00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:55.280
answer back every time I did it. And so my

913
00:51:55.320 --> 00:51:58.000
sister's got her phone and she still has the recording

914
00:51:58.039 --> 00:52:03.320
of this, has her phone and she's recording that owl

915
00:52:03.400 --> 00:52:05.360
going back and forth. Well, like I said, is this

916
00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:08.320
is like at ten ten thirty at night by the

917
00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:11.440
time this all comes down, So she'd been recording for

918
00:52:11.480 --> 00:52:14.920
like fifteen or twenty minutes at least. At one point,

919
00:52:15.000 --> 00:52:17.159
you could hear me go, hey, Cindy, remember on Jurassic

920
00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:19.880
Park where the one Veloci rapper kept the attention of

921
00:52:19.880 --> 00:52:21.840
the guy while the other one's knuck up bying. She's

922
00:52:21.880 --> 00:52:24.159
like yeah, and I'm like, that's probably what's happening right now,

923
00:52:24.199 --> 00:52:27.800
and we laughed about it. Well, my wife was getting

924
00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:30.599
ready to go to bed, and so our little dog.

925
00:52:31.199 --> 00:52:33.119
She wanted the little dog to go potty before I

926
00:52:33.119 --> 00:52:35.800
went to bed. So I walk over with my wife

927
00:52:35.840 --> 00:52:37.960
and the dogs, you know, on the edge of the road,

928
00:52:38.000 --> 00:52:41.159
and we're standing there with the flashlight on it kind

929
00:52:41.159 --> 00:52:42.960
of get the dog go back. The dog would not go.

930
00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:46.199
Dog would not go. And my sister's still over there,

931
00:52:46.199 --> 00:52:49.360
calling back and forth like drunk, calling this owl, and

932
00:52:49.400 --> 00:52:52.960
the owl is still going off, and it's across that

933
00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:57.679
the owls across that flat and back by that creek area,

934
00:52:57.719 --> 00:52:59.480
which I would say was a little less than a

935
00:52:59.519 --> 00:53:04.320
hundred yards away from where we were camping, and so

936
00:53:04.440 --> 00:53:06.639
I say, hey. My wife's like, hey, I think her

937
00:53:06.760 --> 00:53:09.599
calling is making our dog nervous. Can you tell her stop?

938
00:53:09.639 --> 00:53:11.159
And I was like okay. So I was like, hey, Siddy,

939
00:53:11.159 --> 00:53:12.880
can you stop calling for a second. I think you're

940
00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:15.840
making the dog nervous. So she's like okay, So she

941
00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:20.000
stops recording, which is classic, and she's sitting there and

942
00:53:20.079 --> 00:53:22.599
the dog's doing and go. So I picked up the

943
00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:25.599
dog and we start walking over to my sister, and

944
00:53:25.679 --> 00:53:28.679
as soon as we all three get together, that owl

945
00:53:28.760 --> 00:53:30.880
hoots again. So we all kind of stop and look

946
00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:33.960
up in the dark, look towards that direction, and this

947
00:53:34.039 --> 00:53:41.079
time owl goes and it kind of goes like drop down.

948
00:53:41.199 --> 00:53:44.800
We call it like an angry owl, like an angry

949
00:53:44.840 --> 00:53:48.320
owl sound. And then immediately to the left of it,

950
00:53:48.360 --> 00:53:52.239
we're like a kyote was gonna yip. And then just

951
00:53:52.360 --> 00:54:01.039
left of that, just this this roar, this roared Jeremiah

952
00:54:01.159 --> 00:54:05.280
was so deep and so loud that you literally could

953
00:54:05.280 --> 00:54:07.800
feel it in your chest, and you could hear the

954
00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:15.159
trees ringing like ten freight train horns loud, just brah,

955
00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:20.599
and all three of our jaws dropped, and we all

956
00:54:20.639 --> 00:54:25.239
three had kind of watery eyes. And I said what

957
00:54:26.480 --> 00:54:28.440
And I did cuss that time, and I don't ever

958
00:54:28.559 --> 00:54:33.119
hardy cuss. I was like, what was that? And they're like,

959
00:54:33.199 --> 00:54:36.079
I don't know, I don't know. I was like, get stuff,

960
00:54:36.159 --> 00:54:39.000
let's go, let's go, because I mean, it was like

961
00:54:40.920 --> 00:54:43.000
it felt like we were about to die if we

962
00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:46.360
didn't get out there. And so she gathered, you know,

963
00:54:46.519 --> 00:54:49.760
my wife gathered like her medicine bag and her purse.

964
00:54:50.559 --> 00:54:54.199
My sister she didn't really have anything. So she just

965
00:54:54.280 --> 00:54:56.719
jumped in her car and waited for me and Ddie

966
00:54:57.000 --> 00:55:00.400
and we got in our truck and my wife drove

967
00:55:00.440 --> 00:55:02.039
and I had my shotgun out the window with a

968
00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:04.360
flashlight because we had to drive right past where that

969
00:55:04.639 --> 00:55:10.079
war came from. And I stood jarred as we drove by.

970
00:55:10.159 --> 00:55:12.039
And we got out of there, and we went back

971
00:55:12.119 --> 00:55:14.719
up a week later to get my camper. It took

972
00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:16.360
us a week to go back up there.

973
00:55:16.920 --> 00:55:21.840
Oh wow, let's say, okay, man, you left. I guess

974
00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:25.039
that makes sense. I mean I probably would have done

975
00:55:25.039 --> 00:55:28.079
a similar thing. I mean, I can't imagine hearing something

976
00:55:28.119 --> 00:55:32.679
like that so close to you, freaking I.

977
00:55:32.639 --> 00:55:36.519
Mean like freaky loud. Yeah, And it was one sound

978
00:55:36.639 --> 00:55:41.559
was one voice box. The owl was like one voice box.

979
00:55:41.599 --> 00:55:43.519
Then the yip yip came a little bit to the left,

980
00:55:43.559 --> 00:55:46.039
like it was a different voice box. Then a little

981
00:55:46.079 --> 00:55:48.159
more left was that big war. So it was like

982
00:55:48.159 --> 00:55:52.119
what like three of them on this you know, right

983
00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:54.880
off the side camp and that roar just it wasn't

984
00:55:54.960 --> 00:56:01.400
like it was just like like you get the sense

985
00:56:01.480 --> 00:56:05.480
like that's enough, you know, that's what it was. But

986
00:56:06.639 --> 00:56:12.719
it was intense, loud and deep, and we had bailout

987
00:56:13.039 --> 00:56:16.719
bugle you know, yards from us, and they're huge, you know,

988
00:56:16.719 --> 00:56:19.400
they're one thousand pounds nine hundred pounds with big chest,

989
00:56:19.599 --> 00:56:22.800
and that that wouldn't even have touched the sound that

990
00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:23.639
this thing made.

991
00:56:25.679 --> 00:56:30.440
Thank goodness, because it it sounds like you're very familiar

992
00:56:30.639 --> 00:56:34.320
with what the animals of that area should sound like.

993
00:56:37.039 --> 00:56:41.079
Absolutely. I've hunted my whole life and hunted this spot

994
00:56:41.239 --> 00:56:46.280
for now for twenty years. And yeah, I mean I

995
00:56:46.320 --> 00:56:50.480
heard the elt and heard coyotes, and he heard bobcat

996
00:56:50.519 --> 00:56:53.800
squall in and fox doing their little calls and stuff,

997
00:56:53.800 --> 00:56:55.320
and people were like, well, maybe it was an owl.

998
00:56:55.400 --> 00:56:58.719
I'm like, man, I know owls can be loud, and

999
00:56:59.239 --> 00:57:02.440
they can sound bigger than what their chess, you know,

1000
00:57:02.559 --> 00:57:07.239
can produce. But this thing was like freight training horn loud,

1001
00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:12.800
just brah. So. Yeah, when I heard that, that's when

1002
00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:17.320
I knew that we were not dealing with just an animal.

1003
00:57:17.480 --> 00:57:20.360
That's when it was like all rolled through my brain,

1004
00:57:20.960 --> 00:57:24.159
like the culmination of all that nine days just went

1005
00:57:24.199 --> 00:57:24.519
to that.

1006
00:57:27.239 --> 00:57:31.280
Have you heard anything that even comes close to that sound?

1007
00:57:33.159 --> 00:57:37.199
I had? There was one recording, so we did. Of course,

1008
00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:39.679
me and my sister. My wife's kind of not into

1009
00:57:39.800 --> 00:57:42.719
it as much and my sister's the most into it,

1010
00:57:42.760 --> 00:57:46.480
but she found something on the internet that was supposed

1011
00:57:46.480 --> 00:57:49.400
to be a bigfoot recording, and it was the closest

1012
00:57:49.679 --> 00:57:52.039
I think it might have been in Canada, but it

1013
00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:54.920
was the closest. We all three agreed to what we heard.

1014
00:57:56.639 --> 00:58:02.280
M that's that's no animal that I know of. I mean,

1015
00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:06.000
I've hunted moose and up in Alaska, kill bull, elk,

1016
00:58:06.320 --> 00:58:09.280
killed a bull, moose, killed a lot of bears, a

1017
00:58:09.320 --> 00:58:11.960
lot of bear in my life and stuff, and there's

1018
00:58:12.079 --> 00:58:15.480
just I just don't know of anything else it could

1019
00:58:15.480 --> 00:58:15.800
have been.

1020
00:58:18.400 --> 00:58:22.519
And this is, uh, this is southern Elliott State Forest.

1021
00:58:23.920 --> 00:58:26.840
This is the yes, the southern side of the Elliot

1022
00:58:26.840 --> 00:58:27.480
State Forest.

1023
00:58:28.239 --> 00:58:31.039
Yeah, I've been following, Like I use Google masks, but

1024
00:58:31.239 --> 00:58:35.079
sometimes I'll use on X because you can actually see

1025
00:58:35.119 --> 00:58:36.360
the Forest Service roads.

1026
00:58:37.480 --> 00:58:39.480
Uh huh and uh I got on X.

1027
00:58:40.159 --> 00:58:44.119
Yeah, it's dude, it's great. Not a sponsor, guys, but man,

1028
00:58:44.199 --> 00:58:48.119
if they ever want to be beho, they are great.

1029
00:58:48.239 --> 00:58:52.360
There's nothing better than you know, because yeah, I mean

1030
00:58:52.400 --> 00:58:55.239
it's not just for hunters like bigfooters use it like crazy.

1031
00:58:55.320 --> 00:58:59.679
You can mark where you've seen, where you've had sightings

1032
00:58:59.719 --> 00:59:02.000
and all sorts of stuff. You can share it with

1033
00:59:02.039 --> 00:59:02.920
your big for friends.

1034
00:59:02.920 --> 00:59:07.400
I mean, guys, absolutely even hikers and whatever because you

1035
00:59:07.400 --> 00:59:10.440
can track yourself and everything. I love it. I'm dropping

1036
00:59:10.480 --> 00:59:13.760
tins like you said, I've Yeah, we've had it for

1037
00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:17.079
like probably eight years now or something, and we're not

1038
00:59:17.239 --> 00:59:21.039
going without it. We renew it every year. But yeah,

1039
00:59:21.079 --> 00:59:23.079
if you're looking at like you go up the one

1040
00:59:23.079 --> 00:59:26.920
thousand road, which is Marlow Creek is actually the name

1041
00:59:26.960 --> 00:59:29.199
of it. Yep, I see, and then went up at

1042
00:59:29.239 --> 00:59:32.360
like eleven miles or thirteen miles or something to the

1043
00:59:32.440 --> 00:59:34.800
nine thousand road, and then you dropped left down the

1044
00:59:34.880 --> 00:59:37.079
nine thousand and we were down the bottom of that road,

1045
00:59:37.480 --> 00:59:40.960
so we looked, and in two thousand and one there

1046
00:59:41.039 --> 00:59:44.159
was a bow hunter hunting elk on that same exact

1047
00:59:44.239 --> 00:59:47.719
road had a daytime sighting while he was stalking elk.

1048
00:59:48.480 --> 00:59:48.960
Wow.

1049
00:59:50.079 --> 00:59:52.840
Oh, I don't remember if that was Bfro or if

1050
00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:56.679
that was like my big Fizz of Oregon or I

1051
00:59:56.719 --> 00:59:58.719
can't remember where it was, but there was on the

1052
00:59:58.800 --> 01:00:01.440
exact same road. In two one a bow hunter saw

1053
01:00:02.159 --> 01:00:05.559
a daytime bigfoot stalking the same ALKI was from like

1054
01:00:05.679 --> 01:00:06.599
forty yards away.

1055
01:00:06.960 --> 01:00:10.039
Oh my goodness. That that is awesome when you when

1056
01:00:10.079 --> 01:00:12.559
you see that kind of thing, you find that report

1057
01:00:12.559 --> 01:00:16.119
and that's just like, you know, you know what you experience,

1058
01:00:16.280 --> 01:00:19.360
but it's like when you see someone else experience something

1059
01:00:19.400 --> 01:00:21.719
in the same area and you're like, oh, this is

1060
01:00:21.840 --> 01:00:25.599
just this, this is it. You know, it's it's like

1061
01:00:25.719 --> 01:00:26.320
yours bunks.

1062
01:00:26.400 --> 01:00:28.280
Your hair stands up, like oh.

1063
01:00:27.920 --> 01:00:32.119
Man, absolutely, yeah, would you ever go back to that area?

1064
01:00:33.519 --> 01:00:35.760
So we still hunt there every year, oh okay, but

1065
01:00:35.840 --> 01:00:39.199
we do not camp there, and we and the whole

1066
01:00:39.239 --> 01:00:43.440
time we've been there since Jeremiah nothing, it's been fine,

1067
01:00:44.039 --> 01:00:46.719
but we're not camped at that same spot, but we

1068
01:00:46.760 --> 01:00:50.599
camp all around that. I mean within a couple, you know,

1069
01:00:50.639 --> 01:00:54.199
a mile or two of that same spot, and we've

1070
01:00:54.239 --> 01:00:58.800
never had anything. You know, we've had stuff or you're

1071
01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:02.760
like uh huh, you know, leave us alone, but nothing

1072
01:01:03.039 --> 01:01:06.320
like that, you know where it was like days of

1073
01:01:06.800 --> 01:01:08.119
interaction basically.

1074
01:01:09.519 --> 01:01:12.840
Okay, So they're they're doing little stuff like are they

1075
01:01:12.960 --> 01:01:17.239
like throwing little rocks or wood knocks or things like that,

1076
01:01:17.320 --> 01:01:17.880
or one.

1077
01:01:17.679 --> 01:01:20.199
Time, you know, I both just heard a knock and

1078
01:01:20.239 --> 01:01:22.320
I was like, did you hear that? She's like yeah,

1079
01:01:22.360 --> 01:01:24.320
and I was like, chop the truck. She turned off

1080
01:01:24.320 --> 01:01:25.920
the truck and we were driving up this one road

1081
01:01:25.960 --> 01:01:27.760
and you have almost four by it. You're not quite

1082
01:01:27.840 --> 01:01:31.000
four buying, but you're going real slow. And I was

1083
01:01:31.039 --> 01:01:35.679
actually looking at like five or six full ELK carcasses,

1084
01:01:35.880 --> 01:01:39.559
like the full skeletons. And I'm sitting there looking at

1085
01:01:39.599 --> 01:01:43.800
these skeletons with my binoculars and they're literally like thirty

1086
01:01:43.880 --> 01:01:46.400
yards off the side of this hill, off the side

1087
01:01:46.400 --> 01:01:48.719
of the road, and I get my binoculars and I'm

1088
01:01:48.719 --> 01:01:50.719
trying to look at details of them, like, well, how

1089
01:01:50.719 --> 01:01:53.440
did they die? You know, is there like teeth marking

1090
01:01:53.480 --> 01:01:55.000
the bones. I was just kind of checking that out,

1091
01:01:55.039 --> 01:01:57.159
and all of a sudden, I was like and I

1092
01:01:57.199 --> 01:01:59.039
looked over at my wife and she looked at me,

1093
01:01:59.119 --> 01:02:01.440
and I'm like, you heard that. She was yeah, and

1094
01:02:01.440 --> 01:02:02.920
it was like, kill the truck. Kill the truck. So

1095
01:02:02.960 --> 01:02:05.400
she shut the truck off, and we're both kind of

1096
01:02:05.440 --> 01:02:08.440
got our you know, our ear radars up and from

1097
01:02:08.480 --> 01:02:12.159
the same exact spot, which was down just below those skeletons,

1098
01:02:12.239 --> 01:02:18.320
just probably thirty seconds later, maybe just I think, let's go,

1099
01:02:18.639 --> 01:02:22.000
and we fired the truck up and left. So that

1100
01:02:22.239 --> 01:02:25.199
was near right near there. That was probably about seven

1101
01:02:25.280 --> 01:02:29.840
miles from there, but in that same general southern part

1102
01:02:29.920 --> 01:02:30.639
of the Elliott.

1103
01:02:32.119 --> 01:02:36.519
So, did you notice if those elk were killed in

1104
01:02:36.599 --> 01:02:39.840
any weird way, like if they I don't know if

1105
01:02:39.840 --> 01:02:42.880
you can you tell if an animal has a broken neck,

1106
01:02:42.920 --> 01:02:45.280
if it's if you could just see the skeleton.

1107
01:02:47.639 --> 01:02:50.880
I if you went up and twist, you know, turned it.

1108
01:02:50.920 --> 01:02:53.400
I suppose you could. I don't know if I just

1109
01:02:53.519 --> 01:02:57.840
looking at it right and and you know, I definitely

1110
01:02:57.880 --> 01:03:00.280
didn't notice that looking at him through the truck. That's

1111
01:03:00.320 --> 01:03:02.400
what I was looking at, like seeing if I could

1112
01:03:02.440 --> 01:03:05.320
see like a crush neck or you know, crushed vertebrae

1113
01:03:05.440 --> 01:03:08.920
or broken ribs. The one weird kind of thing about

1114
01:03:08.960 --> 01:03:12.559
that I was looking at is there was one hide,

1115
01:03:12.840 --> 01:03:15.960
like the skin part, and it was rolled up kind

1116
01:03:15.960 --> 01:03:18.679
of like rolled in a like a tube shape, rolled

1117
01:03:18.719 --> 01:03:21.559
that and I thought, and I'm in my mind, you know,

1118
01:03:21.559 --> 01:03:24.599
I'm thinking, well, could could be poachers, you know, or

1119
01:03:24.639 --> 01:03:27.360
they dumping like poached elk off the side. And I

1120
01:03:27.400 --> 01:03:29.840
was like, well, they would have had to throw these

1121
01:03:29.880 --> 01:03:32.199
skeletons pretty far off the edge of the road to

1122
01:03:32.199 --> 01:03:34.519
get them to where they're all laying right there. Yes,

1123
01:03:34.559 --> 01:03:36.519
they could have drug them all there, but why would

1124
01:03:36.519 --> 01:03:38.880
you drug drag them to where they could be seen,

1125
01:03:40.440 --> 01:03:41.960
you know, just kind of like that's what was going

1126
01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:44.519
through my mind while I'm sitting there, and the truck

1127
01:03:44.599 --> 01:03:47.000
was just idle, and then that knock and I'm like

1128
01:03:48.440 --> 01:03:50.079
kill it, kill it, and she killed the truck, and

1129
01:03:50.119 --> 01:03:52.800
like thirty seconds later again it was like let's go.

1130
01:03:53.199 --> 01:03:53.639
I'm done.

1131
01:03:53.719 --> 01:03:58.800
Let's so you're saying that you're you're staying in different

1132
01:03:58.840 --> 01:04:01.840
places than the original place. How far away from the

1133
01:04:01.880 --> 01:04:05.480
original place are you approximately when you're staying in these

1134
01:04:05.480 --> 01:04:06.400
other places now?

1135
01:04:07.719 --> 01:04:13.800
Basically, so you've seen where the nine thousand goes off

1136
01:04:13.840 --> 01:04:16.159
of the one thousand road. We stayed right at that

1137
01:04:16.320 --> 01:04:20.280
junction quite a bit. And then we've also stayed on

1138
01:04:20.320 --> 01:04:23.679
a road that's the eighteen hundred road, which the bottom

1139
01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:26.360
of it literally is like a mile from where we

1140
01:04:26.360 --> 01:04:29.159
were camping at. We stayed on that road quite a bit.

1141
01:04:29.760 --> 01:04:35.239
So in general, just a rough, rough idea probably oh

1142
01:04:35.280 --> 01:04:40.199
probably within three miles or four miles or something of

1143
01:04:40.199 --> 01:04:43.360
that spot. Went up there, and like my other sister

1144
01:04:43.480 --> 01:04:46.719
came up from southern California, wanted to go really bad.

1145
01:04:46.960 --> 01:04:49.800
We went up there and sat there all night, like

1146
01:04:49.840 --> 01:04:52.840
had even had a little campfire going, and just sat

1147
01:04:52.840 --> 01:04:55.320
there and talked all night and not had anything happen,

1148
01:04:55.400 --> 01:04:56.039
not a sound.

1149
01:04:57.440 --> 01:05:02.199
Oh at the original spot, the original spot weird, Okay.

1150
01:05:02.280 --> 01:05:04.719
I was like, maybe it's a thing where they just

1151
01:05:05.079 --> 01:05:07.960
really want you not to ever be in that spot

1152
01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:11.800
and they're like, let's get them out. But that, Yeah,

1153
01:05:11.880 --> 01:05:14.400
that doesn't make sense. Huh.

1154
01:05:14.480 --> 01:05:18.280
You want to know some creepier Jeremiah, Yeah, is that

1155
01:05:18.360 --> 01:05:21.440
spot when we first found that spot. It wasn't the

1156
01:05:21.559 --> 01:05:23.719
very first day of it when I was like always

1157
01:05:23.760 --> 01:05:26.719
scout around my camps and I always go into the

1158
01:05:26.719 --> 01:05:28.679
brush and in the trees and just kind of know

1159
01:05:28.719 --> 01:05:32.079
what's around my you know, my surroundings. There is like

1160
01:05:32.840 --> 01:05:34.960
where that hit it drops off from the road and

1161
01:05:35.039 --> 01:05:38.440
goes down to that flat. There's like seven or eight

1162
01:05:38.599 --> 01:05:43.880
or nine dog collars around trees that the trees are

1163
01:05:43.920 --> 01:05:48.519
literally growing around these collars like it's a dog burial

1164
01:05:48.599 --> 01:05:50.599
ground or so. I don't know what it is.

1165
01:05:55.119 --> 01:05:58.519
With anything or not, but the collar was put around

1166
01:05:58.559 --> 01:05:59.920
the tree by something.

1167
01:06:01.199 --> 01:06:03.639
Yes, And the names of the dogs. I have pictures

1168
01:06:03.679 --> 01:06:05.760
of them, the names of the dogs on the called

1169
01:06:05.880 --> 01:06:08.920
the tag, like the name tags, and they're like leather

1170
01:06:09.079 --> 01:06:13.079
and like that webbing, like synthetic webbing. Collars and the

1171
01:06:13.119 --> 01:06:18.119
trees are literally starting to grow around them.

1172
01:06:18.199 --> 01:06:23.840
Yeah, dude, that's not cool. I would be like that,

1173
01:06:23.840 --> 01:06:27.480
that would that would freak me out the most, probably

1174
01:06:27.639 --> 01:06:32.679
seeing like that's just that's that's weird. That's a new level. Man.

1175
01:06:32.800 --> 01:06:34.119
I don't know why, but it's weird.

1176
01:06:35.519 --> 01:06:38.159
Yeah, and we felt the same way, like, well, are

1177
01:06:38.280 --> 01:06:41.119
people It's just like somebody's favorite spot that they used

1178
01:06:41.159 --> 01:06:44.159
to camp and they're bringing their you know, the memory

1179
01:06:44.239 --> 01:06:48.159
of their dog being there or where the dogs killed

1180
01:06:48.199 --> 01:06:53.280
there or did something else put them there or I yeah,

1181
01:06:53.400 --> 01:06:56.440
it's creepy, it is creepy.

1182
01:06:56.480 --> 01:07:01.000
It will be really interesting. I just have a feeling

1183
01:07:01.239 --> 01:07:05.559
there's gonna be people that have also had things happen

1184
01:07:06.320 --> 01:07:09.400
in this same area, and they'll go hopefully be leaving

1185
01:07:09.480 --> 01:07:12.480
stuff in the comments. If not, they can always send

1186
01:07:12.519 --> 01:07:17.800
me an email. But uh, yeah, dude, this is this

1187
01:07:17.840 --> 01:07:20.840
is some wild stuff. I mean, I remember I remember

1188
01:07:20.880 --> 01:07:23.239
hearing a little bit about this from you before, but

1189
01:07:23.440 --> 01:07:28.840
there's definitely you were able to share some more interesting details,

1190
01:07:29.159 --> 01:07:32.239
uh tonight, And I'm just glad that we're able to

1191
01:07:32.320 --> 01:07:32.880
chat again.

1192
01:07:34.960 --> 01:07:37.400
Me too, Me too. It's been way too long, you know,

1193
01:07:37.480 --> 01:07:40.360
coming and you know it's hard to spit it out

1194
01:07:40.400 --> 01:07:42.119
here in Miam. But it sure it feels good every

1195
01:07:42.119 --> 01:07:44.320
time you're able to just say it and get it

1196
01:07:44.360 --> 01:07:47.280
off your chest. And I know some of it's really

1197
01:07:47.599 --> 01:07:50.760
out there, and there's gonna be people like you know, okay,

1198
01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:53.199
and that's fine that you know, we all got our

1199
01:07:54.199 --> 01:07:56.800
own opinions and everything, and I'm not looking for anybody

1200
01:07:56.840 --> 01:08:02.480
to give me any you know, like confirmation. I know

1201
01:08:02.559 --> 01:08:05.199
what I experienced in what I've seen just to be

1202
01:08:05.239 --> 01:08:09.039
able to tell you, and you know, I'm really a

1203
01:08:09.039 --> 01:08:13.760
big fan of Jeremiah Byron and big Foot Society and everything,

1204
01:08:13.880 --> 01:08:17.479
and it's been an honor just to be here and

1205
01:08:17.520 --> 01:08:18.119
talking with you.

1206
01:08:18.439 --> 01:08:21.680
I can tell you that well, David, I'm just I'm

1207
01:08:21.720 --> 01:08:25.319
just glad you could come on the show again. It's

1208
01:08:25.359 --> 01:08:27.880
always we've talked a few times. It's always a fun

1209
01:08:27.880 --> 01:08:30.399
time when we talk. And we were saying before the

1210
01:08:30.439 --> 01:08:33.079
show started, maybe you know, you might be able to

1211
01:08:33.079 --> 01:08:36.319
make it out to Oakridge. If so, i'd you know,

1212
01:08:36.479 --> 01:08:40.239
definitely be awesome to meet you in person there. But

1213
01:08:40.720 --> 01:08:44.720
just yeah, thank you so much for coming on tonight.

1214
01:08:44.800 --> 01:08:48.359
I appreciate it. And stay in touch, man, for sure,

1215
01:08:49.560 --> 01:08:50.039
I will.

1216
01:08:50.119 --> 01:08:52.720
And that's definitely my bucket list man to make it

1217
01:08:52.760 --> 01:08:56.279
there and see that would be great. I'd be that

1218
01:08:56.319 --> 01:08:59.720
would be one of the yeah pop bucket lists things

1219
01:08:59.720 --> 01:09:02.600
that I could do. So and it's been great talk

1220
01:09:02.640 --> 01:09:06.319
with you, Jeremiah, and you take care of Buddy and

1221
01:09:06.399 --> 01:09:08.199
we look forward to hearing all your videos.

1222
01:09:08.760 --> 01:09:11.920
Yes, sir, just wanted to take a minute to say

1223
01:09:11.920 --> 01:09:14.000
thank you truly for listening to this episode of the

1224
01:09:14.039 --> 01:09:17.119
Bigfoot Society podcast. David's story isn't just one of the

1225
01:09:17.119 --> 01:09:20.119
most intense encounters we've ever had in this show, it's

1226
01:09:20.159 --> 01:09:23.119
one of the most unforgettable. From red orbs in the

1227
01:09:23.239 --> 01:09:26.920
night to that roar deep in the Elliott State Forest,

1228
01:09:27.359 --> 01:09:30.079
his experiences remind us how much of the unknown still

1229
01:09:30.079 --> 01:09:33.199
lives in the woods and sometimes how close it can get.

1230
01:09:33.560 --> 01:09:36.079
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1236
01:09:52.039 --> 01:09:55.479
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1237
01:09:55.560 --> 01:09:58.760
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1238
01:09:58.760 --> 01:10:01.520
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1239
01:10:01.560 --> 01:10:04.880
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1246
01:10:25.920 --> 01:10:29.279
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1247
01:10:29.319 --> 01:10:31.840
your eyes open, trust your gut, and if something tells

1248
01:10:31.840 --> 01:10:34.640
you to drink pickle juice, maybe listen to see you

1249
01:10:34.680 --> 01:10:35.159
in the woods.