Retired Law Enforcement Official Finally Reveals His Bigfoot Encounters

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Crunch, slam, crunch bang.
That was coming right at me. I'm

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frozen. I'm getting killed telling it
right now. I wasn't having fun.

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Not a lot scares me. That
scares me. And I looked up and

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I can't see my buddy because he's
tying his huge and I'm trying to whip

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for his name, and the steps
are still coming boom boom, boom boom

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by people, heavy football right through
the hard whoods. All right, the

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society, welcome back. I have
a gentleman on the phone with me tonight.

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His name is Chris Miller. How
are you doing tonight? Chris doing

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Wills or I hope you are doing
great. It's a nice night. We

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were talking about that before the recordings
started. And I'm out there in Iowa.

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We're having a nice summer night,
not cold or anything, so I

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can't complain. But how are things
going down your neck the woods? It's

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going well, it's going well.
It's a nice cool spring evening here and

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in the mountains of North Carolina.
And have no complaints, perfect, Chris.

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Are you in the western part of
North Carolina or whereabouts? Are you

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at in the mountains? Yes,
sir, I'm in the northwest corner near

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Virginia and near eastern Tennessee, where
the Free States meet. I'm up in

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that area. Okay, interesting,
interesting, do you mind Sharon a few

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things, whatever you think isn't necessary
before we get to talking about what you've

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noticed over the years. You have
an interesting background story. Now whatever you

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feel comfortable, Sharon, go right
ahead. Okay. I'm retired law enforcement.

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I was a police officer in Central
Water for many years and was very

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blessed to do many different aspects of
law enforcement, and then moved to North

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Carolina up here in the mountains,
made it home permanently, and started working

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as a deputy sheriff. And then
after several years, I retired and opened

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my own business as a private investigator. But then I became injured and couldn't

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work anymore. I had a stroke
in my spinal board. Didn't even know

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that could happen until it did.
But that's actually how after six years as

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a private investigator, and I finally
had to hang that up. And I

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had a lot of downtime, obviously, and I started watching more and more

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television and browsing through YouTube, and
never thought about big Foot or saw squatch

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or anything like that whatsoever. But
I just dripped across a couple of YouTube

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videos and really for entertainment purposes only, and as I'm going to a couple

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of them, I just started recognizing
things to the point that I couldn't ignore

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it anymore. That kind of what
brings us to that interesting it. And

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over the years, when you were
in law enforcement in Florida, you're a

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deputy sheriff in North Carolina, did
you ever get any weird calls? Any

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people reporting bigfoot? Or was that
even on your mind at that time?

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It wouldn't even have been on my
mind at that time. And no,

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I have not gotten I've gotten all
kinds of crazy calls, like every officer

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probably around the world, everything from
a wild drunk to a ghost, somebody

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reporting a ghost. You just never
know who you're going to get, but

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never that and actually surprises me a
little bit as being a world deputy sheriff

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up here in the mountains after especially
some of the things that I've heard,

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and I have to talk to some
people about that agree with the things that

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I heard. So if you don't
mind, Sharon, what are the things

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that you heard over the years that
are starting to make sense as you start

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to look into bigfoot. I guess
they're the first one. And I know

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it sounds crazy, but I'm one
confident on what I heard because it was

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clear as a bell and if not
repetitive, giving me the opportunity to hone

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in on it. Things like that, I just can't tell you what made

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them, and that's what has had
me scratching my head the most over the

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years. But in approximately nineteen ninety, going way back in Madison County,

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Florida, which is in North Florida, I entertate ten runs through there.

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A friend of mine who was also
in long enforce. He and I were

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up there camping and doing a little
deer hunting, and we a friend a

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third party said if you take my
camper up there and put it on my

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property, ill leged deer hunt didn't
have thing. Twice a week dragged the

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camper up there, and I was
there to do a little deer hunting.

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But that when I mean it was
in the middle of nowhere. It's in

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the middle of nowhere. I don't
know what it's like now, but it's

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if you looked on a map,
it's the south of Interstate ten in Madison

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County, Florida. I know we
went five miles down just the sand road

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and never saw another sign of life
other than wildlife. And then you came

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to the property that was timbered,
and that was where we were putting the

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camper, and so we made camp
and put the camper up and got everything

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set up for this other person for
when they bring their family up. And

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then so I knew it was a
Monday. I can remember. I know

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it was a Monday evening because my
friend is a big Miami Dolphins fan and

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he wants to listen to the Monday
night football game on the radio. So

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we had some steaks on the grills, baked potatoes and the fire cooking and

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things like that, and the game
on. So I know it was after

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nine o'clock and we were at the
edge of the area that had been timbered,

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and about thirty yards ballpark was the
property line, and then it was

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really thick undergrowth. Don't know if
you have much experience with the state of

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Florida or anywhere in the Deep South. Much like other places that have rhododendron

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in the mountains and stuff, you
can't see ten feet, but it's just

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very sick with all kinds of underbrush
and swamp and everything else. And we

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were listening to the game and it
was a chili night for North Florida.

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We were chili that night, I
remember that, which was nice. But

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we both kind of looked at each
other as we noticed we were not listening

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to the game because off we would
have been my left. In the woods

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beyond that thirty yard marker, we
could hear something pretty good size walking and

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it was on two feet trunch crunch, and it was breaking. It was

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breaking branches, heavy footsteps. I'm
six foot two, two hundred and forty

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five pounds and I could not make
a heavy impact or stamp crunched into the

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woods if I wanted to. It
was very heavy. We both noticed it,

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and so we both stood up,
walked over to the edge of the

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woods, and of course back then
your flashlights, the old mac light didn't

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go real far, but it stopped. Not a sound because we turned down

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the radio. Then we walked over
there not a sound, and we're thinking,

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I don't know what that was because
there are no people here around here

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from miles at that time. Anyway, we go back over, sit down,

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turn the radio up, crunch,
snap crunch, definitely heavy footsteps to

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two feet walking trying to flank us, going around us, as if it

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didn't or heat or it didn't want
to be seen or discovered. It was

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trying to go around us, and
we turned the radio down, get up,

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walk over there, stop dead silence. It did this three times.

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Every time we would sit back down
turn the radio up, it would start

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walking again on two feet, real
heavy breaking branches. Could hear the leaf

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litter crunching down the pal meadows that
it moved through, and what was and

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then Alex seth the third time it
didn't. We didn't hear it anymore.

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It had moved off. We were
not going to go in there looking for

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it, that's for sure, and
we blew it off. Wasn't paying much

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attention to it because, like I
said before, Bigfoot would have been the

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last thing on Earth I would have
thought of thinking about. So we were

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on the way home the next day
and he just glances over at me and

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goes to the hells that last night, not like I have no idea,

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and it was never discussed again,
just like that. Fast forward to I'm

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listening to several videos on YouTube after
my injury, and I'm like, I'm

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hearing my hunting scenario over and over
again with other people having other encounters.

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So that's what started really speaking my
interests and going back in time there on

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that while I lived up here in
the mountains, my property bordered the Blue

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ridsh Parkway, which is Federal Lane
and nothing but woods. And so I'm

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up and down a lot all night
long, just from side effects. And

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it was October. It was a
park I think it was twenty nineteen.

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I'm pretty confident it was October,
and i couldn't sleep. It was a

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chilling night, and I step that
onto my cardboard and I'm looking. I'm

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just staring off behind my house,
which is nothing but just dark black woods

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actually white pine thicket for probably seventy
yards, and then hardwoods from there,

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and you get to the parkway and
then more of the same on the other

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side of the Blue Ridge Parkway,
and there's just you look at a map

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again, you'll see that right around
that area, there's just you're very close

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to a whole lot of nothing.
Nastional park, state parks, just multiple

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areas of just hundreds and hundreds of
acres of nothing. It's not thousands of

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acres and some looking for my card
port. Staring out back, I'm looking

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into pitch black. The street is
behind me and there's a street light there,

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so I'm still awetted to anything that's
in the woods looking back at me.

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I'm just standing there with my hands
in my pocket, trying to make

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myself be able to go back to
sleep again. When I start noticing,

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I can hear voices, and they
were very heavy voices, but whispers.

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And I do have a neighbor to
one side of me, and I'm looking

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over, but he's to the side
and I'm looking over and their houses says

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two o'clock in the morning. Their
houses all pitch black, and they're retired

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and elderly, so they're not up
late anyway. They're sundown. They're gone.

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And but I'm hearing these three voices. When I forgot to mention is

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what parallels Parkway in the mountains in
North Carolina is what's called the mountains a

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sea trail, and it goes from
the mountain all the way to see it

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goes right behind It went right behind
my house at the time, right where

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I lived, and you hear people
on it during the daytime. And things

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like that, echoing voices and stuff, which you can always tell there's just

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someone hiking through and you can hear
voices echoing up towards my yard. Once

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the sun goes down. You can't
see your hand in front of your face

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back there, literally and there was
no lights, no nothing back there whatsoever,

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just blackness. And these voices were
inaudible. It was like real deep,

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real moderate tone, and then a
lighter tone. Three distinct voices lack

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of a better term, and they
were like a heavy whisper, back and

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forth at each other, just as
a back and forth that done. It

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really weird. I know this sounds
weird, but I listened to it for

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a good thirty seconds or so,
and I'm like, in the heck am

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I listening to There's no way there's
someone back there? And it's and again,

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if it's someone whispering, I could
not whisper as low and heavy rumbled

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as this whisper. What these whispers
were. And then what scared me to

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pieces was the loudest chrispas plays wood
knock. Sounded like someone had a wooden

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baseball bat and slammed it into a
huge tree, just crack, really loud

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at a note, and it was, but that knock was between me and

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the voices, so I would estimate
the knock would have been probably on my

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property, and I'm thinking the voices
I was listening to probably were out there

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more towards the mount of the sea
trail, which still was over one hundred

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plus yards two hundred yards behind my
house. I'm guesting again ballpark a second

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the instant that knock, because the
knock interrupted the voices were going on.

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When all of a sudden crack and
then dead silence, you could hear a

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pin drops for ten miles away.
I don't know what happened to that,

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because the door did not hit me
on the ass as I went in the

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house. So that was in two
thousand October of approximately twenty nineteen. And

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in March of two thousand twenty,
in that same home, that same location,

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I was in bed. My window
was up window at the foot of

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the bed, at the head of
my bed. I'm sorry, and I'm

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watching TV. It's approximately ten thirty
at night. I'm starting to doze off

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a little bit, which is my
objective. Gun fire awakes me up and

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once I'm away and startle awake and
alert I still hear approximately eight to ten

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rounds from two different firearms, pow
pow, bang bang pow bang boo,

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back and forth coming from the Bluer's
Parkway, and then it went dead silent.

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And after it went dead silent,
I heard to me was distinct was

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a the older model Dodge picked up
the old Hemmy and those old Dodges.

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It started up and then just rumbled
northbound on the parkway. I in my

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head, I it was a gunfight
between two different people. And that's what

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hooked me up. That's where it
was in my mind when I heard that,

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and I thought, oh my gosh, there's someone's going to be laying

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there next to their car or something
on the parkway. So I call nine

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one one and informed them and the
Sheriff's office within a route right after that,

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within just a minute behind at an
angle behind my house, but still

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in the woods, coming from the
parkway, coming from exactly in the woods

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from where the gunfire would have been. And this is March in the mountains,

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so everything is still winter, and
it was This was definitely a live

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tree. It was a live branch
because of if you break a white pine

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or a dead branch that just has
that snack to it. But if you

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break a live branch, especially one
of decent size, you can hear the

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fibers cracking before it snaps. So
this was, like I said, within

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a minute or less after and I'm
not timing any of this, but right

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after the gunfire, I'm grabbing the
phone to call nine one one when this

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happens. I hear the branch break
and it sounded like a this size branch

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because you could, like I said, you're those fibers and then pop.

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And then all of a sudden,
within five seconds after that, then seconds

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after that, a huge tree knock
right there. Wham, just one knock,

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but wood on wood, clear,
crisp slam, wood on wood,

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knock. Then pin quiet, pen
couldn't hear anything. Sarah FoST has arrived.

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They drove all over the place.
There was no other vehicle on the

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parkway. There was no signs of
any sort of altercation or anything on the

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parkway. So my mind starts running. I know what I heard. I

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know, and two other people heard
saw something then, and my guests would

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be they were together, and we're
two people together shooting at something on the

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parkway. And then drove off.
I don't know, but that's what goes

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on. That's what my mind puts
together once the Sheriff's office says everything seems

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to be clean and clear, there's
nothing around, and especially with that tree

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break and wood knock within an extremely
short time right after the gunfire, the

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two incidences that I had in North
Carolina. I'm shocked I never got a

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call about that because I worked midnight
shift before I became a detective. But

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I never got a call about anything
like that or even close to it.

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I believe it was back in again
November of twenty nineteen. Again, I've

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been watching more and more YouTube channels, getting more and more interested. I'm

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now hearing things that I'm one hundred
and ten percent. I know what I'm

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listening too, and I know there's
no people there and there is nothing else

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that I can think of. As
I told one guy when I told somebody,

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and he pretty much didn't believe me. But I'm just like, hey,

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buddy, you tell me, please
answer that question for me. That's

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what's been driving me crazy because I
know what I'm listening to, but there's

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nothing that makes those noises or those
sounds in the woods like that any regular

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animals. I've grown up in the
woods all up and down the East Coast.

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I've been deer hunting for the last
thirty plus years before I got her

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turkey hunting. Still deer hunt,
I just got to modify it. And

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I grew up in the country from
southern Maryland to Florida to the mountains,

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and my entire family as well,
so I've gotten used to recognizing the majority

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of what's in the woods by when
I hear it or when I see it

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or something like that, and from
my tree stand over many years in different

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locations, I've seen multiple bear and
I've had there in my yard multiple times,

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whole different scenario, not even the
same. There's what I was hearing

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and what I'm listening to. It
was not an animal that I know of,

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period, and there were no people
there. So that's what has me

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scratching my head over these last few
years. It was November. It was

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muzzleloader in Virginia and I think it
was two and nineteen. And there is

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a hunting cabin I go to every
year. My several family members and friends

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we meet and it's several acres surrounded
by my understanding A couple hundred thousand makers

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of the George Washington National Force.
In the state of Virginia. It's just

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really big woods, especially to the
east coast, big woods and bordered by

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even more big woods. Just where
I'm at it is pretty dawn close to

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West Virginia, and West Virginia is
pretty much the same way. Just National

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Force after National Force and property has
been in my family since nineteen seventy and

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we go up every year and the
deer hunt. I go up for bow

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and I try muslotter and rifle,
or at least one of them was up

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there muslover. This year in twenty
nineteen, we're getting up to hunt.

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It's pre dawn. It's a real
dark morning, probably an hour before the

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sun's supposed to come up. I
walk out of the cabin. I go

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down to my side by side to
get something out of it, and I'm

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getting ready to go to my ground
blind and I'm looking down. I'm about

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forty yards from the cabin, and
the front porch light is on the cabin

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and that's it. Other than that. You can't see your hand in under

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your face. It's just this blackfall
around you. And I'm trying to grab

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something in my side by side without
using my light, which was foolish.

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But while I'm doing that, my
buddy is up on the porch, bent

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over putting on his shoes, so
you really can't see him, but he

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is under the light up on the
porch, and the rest of them are

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inside the cabin hadn't come out yet. On the other side of me,

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I hear, from a reasonable distance
away, very heavy footfalls two feet guaranteed.

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And this terrain is very rocky with
a lot of leaf litter. There's

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rocks all over the place with leaf
litter everywhere. But when I was healthy,

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if you try and just walk through
there with no light or flashlight whatsoever,

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you're just going to go to the
ground. And whatever was moving pretty

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fast, and it was going like
it was going to go past the cabin,

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but it was angling me getting a
little closer because it was at a

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distance than getting closer and closer,
heavier and heavier, and just in that

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fresh leafletter just crunch, slam,
crunch, bang, just too and it

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was coming right at me. And
I'm frozen, and I'm getting chilled telling

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it right now. I'm frozen,
and I wasn't having fun, and not

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a lot scares me to the point
of kind of being dumb about it.

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But that that scares me. And
I look up and I can't not see

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my buddy because he's tying his shoes
and I'm trying to whisper his name,

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and the steps are still coming boom
boom, boom boom by people, heavy

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foot footfalls right through the hardwoods.
And I finally am like, oh,

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so like its loudest whisper I could. He leads up and goes what those

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steps stopped dead in their tracks,
And then I was like, it's fast

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like fact, but still by pedal
heavy footfall running away from me. I

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almost went right back into the cabin, took off all the stuff and said,

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nope, I'm not going out.
And I asked my buddy if he

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had heard that. He said not
alone was talking about I didn't hear nothing

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that's wrong. So I did go
out of one on my ground line and

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I'm leader on that day and into
the evening talking to some other guys that

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were out there at the cabin with
and I told him what I heard.

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I said, I can tell you
what I heard, I just can't tell

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you what made it. They're laughing
and joking, Oh, it was a

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year. It was a bear,
and I'm like, okay, yeah.

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But then my one of my family
members starts telling me. We have our

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older relatives, the previous generation,
and they built wooden, homemade ladder stands

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in certain locations throughout or our property
along the National Force, and they've been

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there for twenty five thirty years.
And they're like ratcheted into very large trees

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with three or four inch heavy big
screws type stuff. They're not coming off,

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and anybody just meandering through wouldn't have
the equipment, you know what I

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mean. Coincidentally, I'm in the
middle of a National Force, but I

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have a batter outperated stalls all or
I've got the ratchets. I need to

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take this thing off. And who
wants thirty plus year olds warped three stand

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that we actually don't even use anymore. But my family member says, oh,

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yeah, I forgot to tell you. I was down in the so

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and so area down there. I
said, yeah. He said the stand

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was gone. That's what he means
started the stand was gone. He said,

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the ladder stand's gone. I said, the ladder stand can't be gone

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unless you went down there. And
removed it, And why would you do

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that? He said, no.
I started looking around for it, and

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I found it about forty yards away
from this tree, ripped into pieces,

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just shredded. And I'm like,
I saw how those things were installed.

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I said, what do you think
did that? And of course you knew

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where my head went. By this
point, my head's there and he's I

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don't know bear, I guess.
I said, are you serious? You're

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going to say it was a bear? I said, I don't believe.

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And black bear has the strength to
rip the stand completely off a tree.

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Maybe it does, but I don't
see how it's going to do it without

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hand to go up onto the stand
or get high enough and wrap your hands

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around it. Because he said it
was ripped off the tree his words,

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and then drug and then ripped into
pieces and pulled apart. And I'm like,

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so that was pretty crazy when he
told me that. Of course,

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he said, yeah, it was
a bear, and I'm like, are

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you sure? I'm like, are
you really sure it was a bear?

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I said, I don't know,
man, and then the subject was changed.

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But that also was up at the
cabin. So I've had some really

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crazy things happened to me crazy anyway. And again, you've got to be

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where I'm at in Virginia at the
time other than another deer hunter. There's

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nobody around for a long way.
It takes a fullil drive to get in

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there, and it's just a long
way in the middle of nowhere. And

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if there's any other hunter close by, he's interested in getting to his band,

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just like me. And he's not
going to go moving through those woods

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with no flashlights. It's not going
to happen. I would challenge in those

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areas where I'm at, people that
live in those areas know what I'm talking

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about. You're just not going to
go bearing all through there with nothing,

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no lights, no nothing. You're
in the mountains, rocks all over the

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place, leaflet are covering the rocks, and you just end up on the

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ground with a busted nose. Quick. But I would love to know what

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these things I'm hearing in the woods
are, that's for sure. You've had

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some really interesting situations, Chris.
If there's listeners that are familiar with these

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areas and they're like that sounds like
something that I experienced too, you need

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to put it in the comments let
us know. But what so you've gotten

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this mind that has this background of
law enforcement. So you're I'm going to

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guess when this stuff is happening to
you, you're you're heavily analyzing her or

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what kind of mindset are you in
when there's this huge bipedal creature it's coming

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towards you. I don't know how
I would handle that. To be honest,

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I have to say that I froze. I'd not like in a fear

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type way, but yeah, I
was scared, but I just froze because

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I did not want it to see
me. I knew there was never one

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moment in my mind that it was
ever a human period. Never. And

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from that, when I hear when
I like, when I heard that,

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it's a couple of seconds of quickly
trying to go through the process of elimination.

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That's not a couple of ear trott
in my way. That's not a

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buck pushing do my way. That's
not a deer at all. That's not

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anything small that is heavy. That's
big. It's breaking branches on the ground

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and it's on two feet. That's
not a bear. I've had bear come

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under my tree. Stand. You
never hear a thing, and then sometimes

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they sound like a freight train going
through the woods. I guess it just

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depends. But my experiences with bear
in the woods is they're very quiet.

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That's been my experiences, and this
was just as it walking towards me.

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The process of elimination went pretty quick
because it was pretty crystal clear what I

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was listening to. And then before
I knew it, I'm, you know,

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trying to get my buddy's attention,
and then the thing took off and

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took off fast, and it didn't
go super far before it stopped dead and

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deadness tracks. I should say.
It was like in my mind it ran

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heavy on two feet, but it
probably didn't go forty five fifty yards and

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then stopped. It didn't like it
was fading away, but I could hear

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it clearly, and then it just
stopped. And no, So after I'm

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talking to my friend, I was
thinking, is it out there watching us

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right now? Because I never heard
it run away? Just get out of

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my range and then it went quiet. Chris, I'm sure you thought of

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this day a few times in your
mind. Imagine if the creature had kept

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coming, how are you prepared to
react? Do you ever think through what

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would have I have done if it
actually didn't end up going away. Yeah,

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I have thought about that way too
many times, to be honest with

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you. There's a I'm very ethical
hunter's way. I was raised the way

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my dad taught me how a hunt. However, if I'm up in the

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middle of the national forest, I'm
probably going to have a pistol with me.

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I'm just gonna have a pistol with
me, and it's just for myself,

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and that's it if I need it. But it was in my backpack,

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and that's I carry a forty five
and it's in my backpack. And

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like I said, I was being
a fool and trying to grab something with

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no light. So I never would
have got to my forty five which was

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next to me in the backpack on
the seat of the side by side,

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and my muzzleoader was still up on
the porch with my buddy. It was

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loaded, but no cap, no
primber cap on that I wouldn't I'm not

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going to put that until I get
to my stand or the ground line now.

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But so that all of that being
said, because I quickly was thinking,

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I wasn't really thinking it at the
moment. Afterwards, I'm thinking about

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it and I'm like, I couldn't
have got to the forty five and the

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musloader was up on the cap,
up on the porch. I probably would

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have literally another two seconds, I
think, and I'm guessing, and I'm

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not trying to dramatize, but I
probably would have jumped up and started yelling,

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just yelling at the top of my
lungs and just started yelling and pray

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it took off running, And that
definitely would have also got my buddy's attention

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directed towards me, and I would
have been yelling loud enough to bring everybody

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that was in the cabin, which
is four more people, bring them out

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of the cabin, you know what
I mean. It's not a big place,

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so that's probably what I would have
done. Decision, don't know,

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but that's all that comes to mind
at the time. Sure, sense of

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photo about it? What do you
think it is that we're dealing with when

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we talk about big foot sasquatch,
there's a lot of different ideas floating around,

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and have you come to a decision
in your mind what you think you're

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on with out there? Obviously to
me, you can't help but not think

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about it more than I care to
and um, I know it's Genesis six

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four in the Bible talks about the
nephelum. So is that some form of

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relative or some form of nephelum?
I am, I'm a man of faith,

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and I do believe that what the
Bible says. And so is that

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what it is? I don't know? Or is it what do they call

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that really large monkey gigantipithecus. I
guess they said where they have proven proven

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there was a bipedal ape approximately that
size in Asia. I my best guess

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would it would be somewhere a gene
a relative of the like gigantipithecus. Just

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over several thousands and thousands of years
it is developed into what it may be

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now, or maybe it has something
to do with Genesis six four. I

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think it's one of those two.
But I really, obviously I don't know.

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But I think it's flesh. I
think it's flesh and bone and blood.

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I don't think it's I don't have
any reason to think it's like something

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from somewhere else. Gotcha? Very
interesting? The cool thing about this show

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is I talk to a lot of
different people, and there's a lot of

407
00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:52.519
different ideas out there, and right
now. There's no wrong or right answers,

408
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no matter what people may say.
Going back to the October over twenty

409
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:07.400
nineteen, I believe was when that
account was. It was back when you

410
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are near the mountain to seed trail. You do you mind? I don't

411
00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:19.840
know if you're able to share what
county that was in Ash County, Ash

412
00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:27.639
County ash ash A s he not. Many people get confused with Nash with

413
00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:30.920
an end, But that's down east. That's down the east coast Okay,

414
00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:37.800
so ash Ash County, yes,
or Ash County borders borders Virginia and Tennessee.

415
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:45.719
It's the very northwest corner. The
southwest corner does go way west,

416
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:49.800
way down there towards Shattoga, Tennessee, and way down there and drop on

417
00:36:49.880 --> 00:36:53.039
top of Georgia. But um up
in the corner, like I said,

418
00:36:53.079 --> 00:37:00.440
near Tennessee and Virginia. Gotcha.
There's a few things said I noticed about

419
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:07.639
your account from that area that we're
really interesting. One is I've never heard

420
00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:13.760
an account where there are voices heard
and then a wood knock actually interrupted the

421
00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:19.320
voices. That is just the most
unique thing that I've heard in a while.

422
00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:22.480
It's very cool and maybe it's due
to my I've been only been doing

423
00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:27.239
this for four or five years,
but I've yet to hear one that sounds

424
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like that. Listeners, if you've
heard one like that too, let me

425
00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:38.199
know. But you mentioned there's like
the whispering voices, yes, or have

426
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you ever heard anything that sounds similar
to those whispering voices. I've heard things

427
00:37:49.719 --> 00:37:57.039
on the internet or YouTube like the
ear sounds or the different chatter. I've

428
00:37:57.039 --> 00:38:02.400
heard those things on television, Yes, I have. I honestly don't know

429
00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:12.000
if i'd heard them at that point
or not, but I mean, it

430
00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:15.079
wouldn't have mattered. I I'm very
confident in what I was listening to.

431
00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:22.239
Oh definitely. And did they sound
similar to the Sierra sounds? Though you

432
00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:28.079
think no? If I had no, sir, I'm sorry. If I

433
00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:34.519
had to put it in some form
of a category, I would have put

434
00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:43.199
it towards what is a gentleman's name
in Tennessee? He has he does a

435
00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:49.480
lot of hiking in the Smoky Carpenter
last name of Carpenter, Scott Carpenter television.

436
00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:53.119
I see his television or his YouTube
channel and apparently yes, or that's

437
00:38:53.239 --> 00:39:01.199
him, and apparently he has recordings
of some form of chatter, and he

438
00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:06.519
sent and it's on the television,
it's on his YouTube channel as well as

439
00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:10.320
Survivor Man went out there and did
a full episode in the Smokies, including

440
00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:17.360
interviewing him and listening to these recorded
sounds, and so if I had to

441
00:39:17.639 --> 00:39:23.079
put it in the category, but
the ones that Scott Carpenter recorded are very

442
00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:27.400
loud, like an argument, like
screening yelling. That's what it sounds like

443
00:39:27.559 --> 00:39:30.440
to me. Anyway, what I
was listening to sounded like that, but

444
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:37.199
in a heavy whisper. They were
definitely whispering, and it was or talking

445
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:43.719
very lowly because it was very heavy
and so like that, very low,

446
00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:47.559
and very one of them was lower
than I could go. And I can

447
00:39:47.639 --> 00:39:52.039
go low, I couldn't. I
can't go as low as the one I

448
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:55.760
heard. And one of them was
a very very heavy sounding. Even though

449
00:39:55.760 --> 00:40:00.519
the tone there were different tones,
they were all very heavy sounding. And

450
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:06.239
I don't know how to explain it
other than that I suspect and if I'm

451
00:40:06.280 --> 00:40:13.440
trying to unfold that in my mind
after it happened, because like I said,

452
00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:19.159
I didn't give any time on that
scenario to find out what occurred seconds

453
00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:24.079
after I heard the woodknock because I
was inside quick. That put me on

454
00:40:24.159 --> 00:40:29.119
my feet. I was out of
there, but like I had mentioned,

455
00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:36.280
I was being silhouetted by a streetlight. So I'm wondering if there were three

456
00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:40.239
back there towards the mount of the
seat trail, and maybe one milling a

457
00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:46.840
little closer towards my house, it
very easily could have seen me and washed

458
00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:52.599
every move I made because I'm silhouetted
on my cardboard. But i'd never see

459
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:59.039
anything back there other than blackness.
And maybe it read in my body language

460
00:40:59.079 --> 00:41:01.679
said hey, I'm listening to something
here, because I moved around on the

461
00:41:01.719 --> 00:41:07.199
carboard and was listening there sound asleep. There's their car, they're all blacked

462
00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:09.239
out for the night. It's two
am. They're not home. Over there,

463
00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:14.239
this straight back wood, it's black
nothing, and nobody's there, and

464
00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:21.199
I'm listening to three different heavy whispers. And I'm sure at that time I

465
00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:23.639
think I'm by myself, So I'm
sure if my body language was pretty easy

466
00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:29.280
to read that I was trying to
listen to something, and maybe it was

467
00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:32.440
the forest was trying to tell the
other three to shut up. I don't

468
00:41:32.519 --> 00:41:37.639
know, that's what went through my
mind afterwards, is that what it was?

469
00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:39.840
I have no idea, but I
will stand by what I heard.

470
00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:44.320
I knew what I was listening to, and I was stone sober, wide

471
00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:52.119
away, unfortunately away, and I
was just walking around board or the stuff

472
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:55.360
on television. I couldn't sleep,
and I was It is not in a

473
00:41:55.360 --> 00:42:00.119
common for me to walk out onto
the car board round to my garage as

474
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:04.559
you're wherever different portions of my life
and mill around and I was out there

475
00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:09.880
on the cardboard when all of this
unfolded. Wow, Chris, I talked

476
00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:15.719
to a lot of people from eastern
Tennessee, from western North Carolina, and

477
00:42:15.239 --> 00:42:21.880
there's something about this area that there's
a lot of wild bigfoot stuff or just

478
00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:27.000
weird stuff that happens in this area. Is that something you've ever thought about,

479
00:42:27.119 --> 00:42:31.880
Like, why is it that it
just it seems to really be right

480
00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:39.239
in this area for some reason.
I have thought about it, and it

481
00:42:39.239 --> 00:42:46.159
would be just here speculation, because
I obviously don't know. I have heard

482
00:42:46.159 --> 00:42:52.440
of other big foot sightings in different
portions of the state, but like you

483
00:42:52.519 --> 00:43:00.000
mentioned, I've heard of several watching
YouTube again, several up and down East

484
00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:04.760
Tennessee, Western North Carolina in the
mountains southwest Virginia up to West Virginia,

485
00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:09.880
Western Virginia, all the way up
down to northern Georgia then to Alabama,

486
00:43:09.960 --> 00:43:15.559
and it's like that Appalachian Corridor,
just like the Appalachian Trail. I wonder

487
00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:23.039
if that is a traveling corridor for
them where they because if you look on

488
00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:29.480
a map, starting from the Northern
Georgia area, I'll just start there,

489
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:34.800
it's easy to find one link to
the next, from one national force to

490
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:37.800
the next national force to the next
national force, going all the way up

491
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:42.360
by of the Appalachians, almost all
the way up until you get up into

492
00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:49.960
little bits of Maryland and Pennsylvania and
it changes a little bit. But especially

493
00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:55.800
through this area, it's there's it's
very thick, very thick, very green,

494
00:43:57.079 --> 00:44:01.079
very rural, and just lots and
lots the force. Again, that

495
00:44:01.119 --> 00:44:04.960
would be a speculation, but that
would certainly give them food, cover,

496
00:44:05.119 --> 00:44:09.239
water, and they pretty reasonable travel
route, especially if they are if they

497
00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:15.000
do have the physical ability that is
suspected, with the intelligence level that is

498
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:17.440
suspected, I think it would probably
pretty easy for him to be honest with

499
00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:24.760
you, I think that makes total
sense. Chris, for sure, you

500
00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:30.559
think about it. Because of that
trail, We've left that area pretty good,

501
00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:36.800
especially for a creature that would want
to be traveling man all the way

502
00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:40.960
up to northern Maine. We know
that there's some wild stuff up there,

503
00:44:42.039 --> 00:44:50.079
There's no doubt about it. But
oh absolutely, yes, Maine has big

504
00:44:50.119 --> 00:44:54.760
woods like they do out west.
Ain't a pretty real place, Yes,

505
00:44:54.840 --> 00:45:06.039
sir, it's on a crazy and
again, I promise you, I'm telling

506
00:45:06.039 --> 00:45:07.440
you the truth. And I know
this is a lot of weird stuff,

507
00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:15.719
but it is everything I've heard and
I just cannot explain and through process of

508
00:45:15.719 --> 00:45:19.599
elimination, like everything I know that
didn't do it. I know this didn't

509
00:45:19.639 --> 00:45:21.920
make that sound. There's no way
that could have made this sound. I

510
00:45:21.920 --> 00:45:23.800
know this didn't make that sound.
And there's no way there was anybody else

511
00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:29.400
back there, what else has done
made these noises? Because I know what

512
00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:32.039
I'm listening to, and I know
i'm repeating myself on that, I guess

513
00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:38.440
I'm trying to just drive a point
that I'm I wouldn't be on the phone

514
00:45:38.440 --> 00:45:42.880
with you if I conceive me if
I weren't one hundred percent confident in what

515
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:45.039
I was listening to. But until
I put my eyes on it. I

516
00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:50.960
can't say exactly what it was,
I can certainly tell you what it wasn't.

517
00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:55.800
Yeah, there you go, Chris. If you could think for a

518
00:45:55.840 --> 00:46:06.280
minute, imagine there's person listening that
they haven't told anyone what's happened to them

519
00:46:06.320 --> 00:46:10.320
regarding Bigfoot because they're afraid they're going
to get made fun of or something like

520
00:46:10.360 --> 00:46:15.920
that. Can you share with them, like you're talking to them? Why

521
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:21.519
is it important to share the things
that you've encountered to get it off your

522
00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:31.320
chest being honest? For me personally, just contacting you made me feel better

523
00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:38.239
because I don't know why, but
these different things that have happened to me

524
00:46:39.079 --> 00:46:44.480
are on my mind. A lot
of this why I don't I'm not the

525
00:46:44.559 --> 00:46:49.519
kind of guy that walks away not
knowing why. And I'm like, why

526
00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:52.119
what am I listening to? What
is it? More of a what am

527
00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:59.199
I listening to? What is it
out there? And and I have tried

528
00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:00.880
to talk to a couple of people
before and they were nice enough not to

529
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:05.440
laugh at me, but they may
as well have. I just didn't talk

530
00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:09.360
about it anymore for that reason.
But when I reached out to you,

531
00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:15.960
I instantly felt better. And I
actually am be honest with your feeling a

532
00:47:15.960 --> 00:47:22.679
little relieved having this conversation with you
finally telling somebody that may actually believe you.

533
00:47:23.840 --> 00:47:32.199
And to add to that would be
just like the person that might be

534
00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:36.599
out there listening. If no one
steps up and says, hey, I

535
00:47:36.760 --> 00:47:40.199
heard this over here, Hey I
saw that. We don't know if nobody

536
00:47:40.239 --> 00:47:44.719
heard, nobody saw, or a
hundred people heard and a hundred people saw.

537
00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:49.159
So as one person says something,
usually another one might say something.

538
00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:52.639
Then another one might say something,
and then the naysayers may actually start paying

539
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:55.559
a little more attension. Because that's
all I told a couple of guys is

540
00:47:57.239 --> 00:47:59.440
go do your own research. Man. That's what I did. I did

541
00:47:59.440 --> 00:48:01.639
if I share incidence because I was
bored, because I was hurt, so

542
00:48:01.159 --> 00:48:06.480
I started watching it, I said, But then I started there's just to

543
00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:08.079
me, there's too much out there
to ignore. And that's even not even

544
00:48:08.199 --> 00:48:13.360
counting the things that I've heard.
There's too much out there to just ignore.

545
00:48:15.079 --> 00:48:22.199
And the more honest people get out
there and tell the truth, Hey,

546
00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:24.679
it's going to make you feel better. It's that makes me feel better

547
00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:31.679
to finally get it off my chest. But also you would be giving someone

548
00:48:31.800 --> 00:48:37.599
the green light to step up to
tell them or tell their story, and

549
00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:42.800
then it kind of domino effects from
there. Absolutely. Oh yeah, no,

550
00:48:43.119 --> 00:48:47.199
I agree, I Chris. I'm
glad that you were able to share

551
00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:52.840
what you experienced with me, and
thank you, Chris. Yes, I

552
00:48:52.920 --> 00:49:00.400
appreciate you listening to me. So
if anyone that's listening to this, if

553
00:49:00.440 --> 00:49:05.239
you're on the podcast, you can
hop over to YouTube use the comments there.

554
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:08.840
If any of the stuff that you
know Chris has shared tonight, if

555
00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:13.840
that reminds you of something or you
experience something similar in the same area as

556
00:49:14.599 --> 00:49:17.280
definitely leave that in the comments.
We might be able to connect some dots

557
00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:24.199
through that and get Chris some more
information. But thanks so much for spending

558
00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:28.360
some time with me tonight, Chris. It's been really fun chatting with you.

559
00:49:28.840 --> 00:49:31.639
And if anything else ever comes out, don't be afraid to reach out.

560
00:49:31.679 --> 00:49:37.079
Man, I appreciate it's my pleasure. I thank you very much.

561
00:49:37.400 --> 00:49:42.280
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562
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563
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564
00:49:53.559 --> 00:49:58.559
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565
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566
00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:09.039
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567
00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:15.639
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568
00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:22.360
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569
00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:22.440
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