Retired Law Enforcement Official Finally Reveals His Bigfoot Encounters

0:00 Crunch, slam, crunch bang. That was coming right at me. I'm frozen. I'm getting killed telling it right now. I wasn't having fun. Not a lot scares me. That scares me. And I looked up and I can't see my buddy because he's tying his huge and I'm trying to whip for his name, and the steps are still coming boom boom, boom boom by people, heavy football right through the hard whoods. All right, the society, welcome back. I have a gentleman on the phone with me tonight. His name is Chris Miller. How are you doing tonight? Chris doing Wills or I hope you are doing great. It's a nice night. We were talking about that before the recordings started. And I'm out there in Iowa.

0:53 We're having a nice summer night, not cold or anything, so I can't complain. But how are things going down your neck the woods? It's going well, it's going well. It's a nice cool spring evening here and in the mountains of North Carolina. And have no complaints, perfect, Chris. Are you in the western part of North Carolina or whereabouts? Are you at in the mountains? Yes, sir, I'm in the northwest corner near Virginia and near eastern Tennessee, where the Free States meet. I'm up in that area. Okay, interesting, interesting, do you mind Sharon a few things, whatever you think isn't necessary before we get to talking about what you've noticed over the years. You have an interesting background story. Now whatever you feel comfortable, Sharon, go right ahead. Okay. I'm retired law enforcement.

1:53 I was a police officer in Central Water for many years and was very blessed to do many different aspects of law enforcement, and then moved to North Carolina up here in the mountains, made it home permanently, and started working as a deputy sheriff. And then after several years, I retired and opened my own business as a private investigator. But then I became injured and couldn't work anymore. I had a stroke in my spinal board. Didn't even know that could happen until it did. But that's actually how after six years as a private investigator, and I finally had to hang that up. And I had a lot of downtime, obviously, and I started watching more and more television and browsing through YouTube, and never thought about big Foot or saw squatch or anything like that whatsoever. But I just dripped across a couple of YouTube videos and really for entertainment purposes only, and as I'm going to a couple of them, I just started recognizing things to the point that I couldn't ignore it anymore. That kind of what brings us to that interesting it. And over the years, when you were in law enforcement in Florida, you're a deputy sheriff in North Carolina, did you ever get any weird calls? Any people reporting bigfoot? Or was that even on your mind at that time?

3:30 It wouldn't even have been on my mind at that time. And no, I have not gotten I've gotten all kinds of crazy calls, like every officer probably around the world, everything from a wild drunk to a ghost, somebody reporting a ghost. You just never know who you're going to get, but never that and actually surprises me a little bit as being a world deputy sheriff up here in the mountains after especially some of the things that I've heard, and I have to talk to some people about that agree with the things that I heard. So if you don't mind, Sharon, what are the things that you heard over the years that are starting to make sense as you start to look into bigfoot. I guess they're the first one. And I know it sounds crazy, but I'm one confident on what I heard because it was clear as a bell and if not repetitive, giving me the opportunity to hone in on it. Things like that, I just can't tell you what made them, and that's what has had me scratching my head the most over the years. But in approximately nineteen ninety, going way back in Madison County, Florida, which is in North Florida, I entertate ten runs through there.

4:57 A friend of mine who was also in long enforce. He and I were up there camping and doing a little deer hunting, and we a friend a third party said if you take my camper up there and put it on my property, ill leged deer hunt didn't have thing. Twice a week dragged the camper up there, and I was there to do a little deer hunting. But that when I mean it was in the middle of nowhere. It's in the middle of nowhere. I don't know what it's like now, but it's if you looked on a map, it's the south of Interstate ten in Madison County, Florida. I know we went five miles down just the sand road and never saw another sign of life other than wildlife. And then you came to the property that was timbered, and that was where we were putting the camper, and so we made camp and put the camper up and got everything set up for this other person for when they bring their family up. And then so I knew it was a Monday. I can remember. I know it was a Monday evening because my friend is a big Miami Dolphins fan and he wants to listen to the Monday night football game on the radio. So we had some steaks on the grills, baked potatoes and the fire cooking and things like that, and the game on. So I know it was after nine o'clock and we were at the edge of the area that had been timbered, and about thirty yards ballpark was the property line, and then it was really thick undergrowth. Don't know if you have much experience with the state of Florida or anywhere in the Deep South. Much like other places that have rhododendron

6:30 in the mountains and stuff, you can't see ten feet, but it's just very sick with all kinds of underbrush and swamp and everything else. And we were listening to the game and it was a chili night for North Florida. We were chili that night, I remember that, which was nice. But we both kind of looked at each other as we noticed we were not listening to the game because off we would have been my left. In the woods beyond that thirty yard marker, we could hear something pretty good size walking and it was on two feet trunch crunch, and it was breaking. It was breaking branches, heavy footsteps. I'm six foot two, two hundred and forty five pounds and I could not make a heavy impact or stamp crunched into the woods if I wanted to. It was very heavy. We both noticed it, and so we both stood up, walked over to the edge of the woods, and of course back then your flashlights, the old mac light didn't go real far, but it stopped. Not a sound because we turned down the radio. Then we walked over there not a sound, and we're thinking, I don't know what that was because there are no people here around here from miles at that time. Anyway, we go back over, sit down,

8:01 turn the radio up, crunch, snap crunch, definitely heavy footsteps to two feet walking trying to flank us, going around us, as if it didn't or heat or it didn't want to be seen or discovered. It was trying to go around us, and we turned the radio down, get up, walk over there, stop dead silence. It did this three times. Every time we would sit back down turn the radio up, it would start walking again on two feet, real heavy breaking branches. Could hear the leaf litter crunching down the pal meadows that it moved through, and what was and then Alex seth the third time it didn't. We didn't hear it anymore.

8:50 It had moved off. We were not going to go in there looking for it, that's for sure, and we blew it off. Wasn't paying much attention to it because, like I said before, Bigfoot would have been the last thing on Earth I would have thought of thinking about. So we were on the way home the next day and he just glances over at me and goes to the hells that last night, not like I have no idea, and it was never discussed again, just like that. Fast forward to I'm listening to several videos on YouTube after my injury, and I'm like, I'm hearing my hunting scenario over and over again with other people having other encounters.

9:39 So that's what started really speaking my interests and going back in time there on that while I lived up here in the mountains, my property bordered the Blue ridsh Parkway, which is Federal Lane and nothing but woods. And so I'm up and down a lot all night long, just from side effects. And it was October. It was a park I think it was twenty nineteen. I'm pretty confident it was October, and i couldn't sleep. It was a chilling night, and I step that onto my cardboard and I'm looking. I'm just staring off behind my house, which is nothing but just dark black woods actually white pine thicket for probably seventy yards, and then hardwoods from there, and you get to the parkway and then more of the same on the other side of the Blue Ridge Parkway, and there's just you look at a map again, you'll see that right around that area, there's just you're very close to a whole lot of nothing. Nastional park, state parks, just multiple areas of just hundreds and hundreds of acres of nothing. It's not thousands of acres and some looking for my card port. Staring out back, I'm looking into pitch black. The street is behind me and there's a street light there,

11:11 so I'm still awetted to anything that's in the woods looking back at me. I'm just standing there with my hands in my pocket, trying to make myself be able to go back to sleep again. When I start noticing, I can hear voices, and they were very heavy voices, but whispers. And I do have a neighbor to one side of me, and I'm looking over, but he's to the side and I'm looking over and their houses says two o'clock in the morning. Their houses all pitch black, and they're retired and elderly, so they're not up late anyway. They're sundown. They're gone.

11:52 And but I'm hearing these three voices. When I forgot to mention is what parallels Parkway in the mountains in North Carolina is what's called the mountains a sea trail, and it goes from the mountain all the way to see it goes right behind It went right behind my house at the time, right where I lived, and you hear people on it during the daytime. And things like that, echoing voices and stuff, which you can always tell there's just someone hiking through and you can hear voices echoing up towards my yard. Once the sun goes down. You can't see your hand in front of your face back there, literally and there was no lights, no nothing back there whatsoever, just blackness. And these voices were inaudible. It was like real deep, real moderate tone, and then a lighter tone. Three distinct voices lack of a better term, and they were like a heavy whisper, back and forth at each other, just as a back and forth that done. It really weird. I know this sounds weird, but I listened to it for a good thirty seconds or so, and I'm like, in the heck am I listening to There's no way there's someone back there? And it's and again, if it's someone whispering, I could not whisper as low and heavy rumbled as this whisper. What these whispers were. And then what scared me to

13:24 pieces was the loudest chrispas plays wood knock. Sounded like someone had a wooden baseball bat and slammed it into a huge tree, just crack, really loud at a note, and it was, but that knock was between me and the voices, so I would estimate the knock would have been probably on my property, and I'm thinking the voices I was listening to probably were out there more towards the mount of the sea trail, which still was over one hundred plus yards two hundred yards behind my house. I'm guesting again ballpark a second the instant that knock, because the knock interrupted the voices were going on.

14:13 When all of a sudden crack and then dead silence, you could hear a pin drops for ten miles away. I don't know what happened to that, because the door did not hit me on the ass as I went in the house. So that was in two thousand October of approximately twenty nineteen. And in March of two thousand twenty, in that same home, that same location, I was in bed. My window was up window at the foot of the bed, at the head of my bed. I'm sorry, and I'm watching TV. It's approximately ten thirty at night. I'm starting to doze off a little bit, which is my objective. Gun fire awakes me up and once I'm away and startle awake and alert I still hear approximately eight to ten rounds from two different firearms, pow pow, bang bang pow bang boo, back and forth coming from the Bluer's Parkway, and then it went dead silent.

15:33 And after it went dead silent, I heard to me was distinct was a the older model Dodge picked up the old Hemmy and those old Dodges. It started up and then just rumbled northbound on the parkway. I in my head, I it was a gunfight between two different people. And that's what hooked me up. That's where it was in my mind when I heard that, and I thought, oh my gosh, there's someone's going to be laying there next to their car or something on the parkway. So I call nine one one and informed them and the Sheriff's office within a route right after that, within just a minute behind at an angle behind my house, but still in the woods, coming from the parkway, coming from exactly in the woods from where the gunfire would have been. And this is March in the mountains, so everything is still winter, and it was This was definitely a live tree. It was a live branch because of if you break a white pine or a dead branch that just has that snack to it. But if you break a live branch, especially one of decent size, you can hear the fibers cracking before it snaps. So this was, like I said, within a minute or less after and I'm not timing any of this, but right

17:06 after the gunfire, I'm grabbing the phone to call nine one one when this happens. I hear the branch break and it sounded like a this size branch because you could, like I said, you're those fibers and then pop. And then all of a sudden, within five seconds after that, then seconds after that, a huge tree knock right there. Wham, just one knock, but wood on wood, clear, crisp slam, wood on wood, knock. Then pin quiet, pen couldn't hear anything. Sarah FoST has arrived. They drove all over the place. There was no other vehicle on the parkway. There was no signs of any sort of altercation or anything on the parkway. So my mind starts running. I know what I heard. I know, and two other people heard saw something then, and my guests would be they were together, and we're two people together shooting at something on the parkway. And then drove off. I don't know, but that's what goes on. That's what my mind puts together once the Sheriff's office says everything seems to be clean and clear, there's nothing around, and especially with that tree break and wood knock within an extremely short time right after the gunfire, the two incidences that I had in North Carolina. I'm shocked I never got a

18:37 call about that because I worked midnight shift before I became a detective. But I never got a call about anything like that or even close to it. I believe it was back in again November of twenty nineteen. Again, I've been watching more and more YouTube channels, getting more and more interested. I'm now hearing things that I'm one hundred and ten percent. I know what I'm listening too, and I know there's no people there and there is nothing else that I can think of. As I told one guy when I told somebody, and he pretty much didn't believe me. But I'm just like, hey, buddy, you tell me, please answer that question for me. That's what's been driving me crazy because I know what I'm listening to, but there's nothing that makes those noises or those sounds in the woods like that any regular animals. I've grown up in the woods all up and down the East Coast.

19:30 I've been deer hunting for the last thirty plus years before I got her turkey hunting. Still deer hunt, I just got to modify it. And I grew up in the country from southern Maryland to Florida to the mountains, and my entire family as well, so I've gotten used to recognizing the majority of what's in the woods by when I hear it or when I see it or something like that, and from my tree stand over many years in different locations, I've seen multiple bear and I've had there in my yard multiple times, whole different scenario, not even the same. There's what I was hearing and what I'm listening to. It was not an animal that I know of, period, and there were no people there. So that's what has me scratching my head over these last few years. It was November. It was muzzleloader in Virginia and I think it was two and nineteen. And there is a hunting cabin I go to every year. My several family members and friends we meet and it's several acres surrounded by my understanding A couple hundred thousand makers of the George Washington National Force. In the state of Virginia. It's just really big woods, especially to the east coast, big woods and bordered by

21:02 even more big woods. Just where I'm at it is pretty dawn close to West Virginia, and West Virginia is pretty much the same way. Just National Force after National Force and property has been in my family since nineteen seventy and we go up every year and the deer hunt. I go up for bow and I try muslotter and rifle, or at least one of them was up there muslover. This year in twenty nineteen, we're getting up to hunt. It's pre dawn. It's a real dark morning, probably an hour before the sun's supposed to come up. I walk out of the cabin. I go down to my side by side to get something out of it, and I'm getting ready to go to my ground blind and I'm looking down. I'm about forty yards from the cabin, and the front porch light is on the cabin and that's it. Other than that. You can't see your hand in under your face. It's just this blackfall around you. And I'm trying to grab something in my side by side without using my light, which was foolish.

22:07 But while I'm doing that, my buddy is up on the porch, bent over putting on his shoes, so you really can't see him, but he is under the light up on the porch, and the rest of them are inside the cabin hadn't come out yet. On the other side of me, I hear, from a reasonable distance away, very heavy footfalls two feet guaranteed. And this terrain is very rocky with a lot of leaf litter. There's rocks all over the place with leaf litter everywhere. But when I was healthy, if you try and just walk through there with no light or flashlight whatsoever, you're just going to go to the ground. And whatever was moving pretty fast, and it was going like it was going to go past the cabin, but it was angling me getting a little closer because it was at a distance than getting closer and closer, heavier and heavier, and just in that fresh leafletter just crunch, slam, crunch, bang, just too and it was coming right at me. And I'm frozen, and I'm getting chilled telling it right now. I'm frozen, and I wasn't having fun, and not a lot scares me to the point of kind of being dumb about it.

23:29 But that that scares me. And I look up and I can't not see my buddy because he's tying his shoes and I'm trying to whisper his name, and the steps are still coming boom boom, boom boom by people, heavy foot footfalls right through the hardwoods. And I finally am like, oh, so like its loudest whisper I could. He leads up and goes what those steps stopped dead in their tracks, And then I was like, it's fast like fact, but still by pedal heavy footfall running away from me. I almost went right back into the cabin, took off all the stuff and said, nope, I'm not going out. And I asked my buddy if he had heard that. He said not alone was talking about I didn't hear nothing that's wrong. So I did go out of one on my ground line and I'm leader on that day and into the evening talking to some other guys that were out there at the cabin with and I told him what I heard.

24:40 I said, I can tell you what I heard, I just can't tell you what made it. They're laughing and joking, Oh, it was a year. It was a bear, and I'm like, okay, yeah. But then my one of my family members starts telling me. We have our older relatives, the previous generation, and they built wooden, homemade ladder stands in certain locations throughout or our property along the National Force, and they've been there for twenty five thirty years. And they're like ratcheted into very large trees with three or four inch heavy big screws type stuff. They're not coming off, and anybody just meandering through wouldn't have the equipment, you know what I mean. Coincidentally, I'm in the middle of a National Force, but I have a batter outperated stalls all or I've got the ratchets. I need to take this thing off. And who wants thirty plus year olds warped three stand that we actually don't even use anymore. But my family member says, oh, yeah, I forgot to tell you. I was down in the so and so area down there. I said, yeah. He said the stand was gone. That's what he means started the stand was gone. He said, the ladder stand's gone. I said, the ladder stand can't be gone

26:11 unless you went down there. And removed it, And why would you do that? He said, no. I started looking around for it, and I found it about forty yards away from this tree, ripped into pieces, just shredded. And I'm like, I saw how those things were installed. I said, what do you think did that? And of course you knew where my head went. By this point, my head's there and he's I don't know bear, I guess. I said, are you serious? You're going to say it was a bear? I said, I don't believe. And black bear has the strength to rip the stand completely off a tree.

26:55 Maybe it does, but I don't see how it's going to do it without hand to go up onto the stand or get high enough and wrap your hands around it. Because he said it was ripped off the tree his words, and then drug and then ripped into pieces and pulled apart. And I'm like, so that was pretty crazy when he told me that. Of course, he said, yeah, it was a bear, and I'm like, are you sure? I'm like, are you really sure it was a bear? I said, I don't know, man, and then the subject was changed. But that also was up at the cabin. So I've had some really crazy things happened to me crazy anyway. And again, you've got to be where I'm at in Virginia at the time other than another deer hunter. There's nobody around for a long way. It takes a fullil drive to get in there, and it's just a long way in the middle of nowhere. And if there's any other hunter close by, he's interested in getting to his band, just like me. And he's not going to go moving through those woods with no flashlights. It's not going to happen. I would challenge in those areas where I'm at, people that live in those areas know what I'm talking about. You're just not going to go bearing all through there with nothing, no lights, no nothing. You're in the mountains, rocks all over the place, leaflet are covering the rocks, and you just end up on the

28:26 ground with a busted nose. Quick. But I would love to know what these things I'm hearing in the woods are, that's for sure. You've had some really interesting situations, Chris. If there's listeners that are familiar with these areas and they're like that sounds like something that I experienced too, you need to put it in the comments let us know. But what so you've gotten this mind that has this background of law enforcement. So you're I'm going to guess when this stuff is happening to you, you're you're heavily analyzing her or what kind of mindset are you in when there's this huge bipedal creature it's coming towards you. I don't know how I would handle that. To be honest, I have to say that I froze. I'd not like in a fear type way, but yeah, I was scared, but I just froze because I did not want it to see me. I knew there was never one moment in my mind that it was ever a human period. Never. And from that, when I hear when I like, when I heard that, it's a couple of seconds of quickly trying to go through the process of elimination.

29:56 That's not a couple of ear trott in my way. That's not a buck pushing do my way. That's not a deer at all. That's not anything small that is heavy. That's big. It's breaking branches on the ground and it's on two feet. That's not a bear. I've had bear come under my tree. Stand. You never hear a thing, and then sometimes they sound like a freight train going through the woods. I guess it just depends. But my experiences with bear in the woods is they're very quiet. That's been my experiences, and this was just as it walking towards me. The process of elimination went pretty quick because it was pretty crystal clear what I was listening to. And then before I knew it, I'm, you know, trying to get my buddy's attention, and then the thing took off and took off fast, and it didn't go super far before it stopped dead and deadness tracks. I should say. It was like in my mind it ran heavy on two feet, but it probably didn't go forty five fifty yards and then stopped. It didn't like it was fading away, but I could hear it clearly, and then it just stopped. And no, So after I'm talking to my friend, I was thinking, is it out there watching us right now? Because I never heard it run away? Just get out of my range and then it went quiet. Chris, I'm sure you thought of

31:26 this day a few times in your mind. Imagine if the creature had kept coming, how are you prepared to react? Do you ever think through what would have I have done if it actually didn't end up going away. Yeah, I have thought about that way too many times, to be honest with you. There's a I'm very ethical hunter's way. I was raised the way my dad taught me how a hunt. However, if I'm up in the middle of the national forest, I'm probably going to have a pistol with me.

32:07 I'm just gonna have a pistol with me, and it's just for myself, and that's it if I need it. But it was in my backpack, and that's I carry a forty five and it's in my backpack. And like I said, I was being a fool and trying to grab something with no light. So I never would have got to my forty five which was next to me in the backpack on the seat of the side by side, and my muzzleoader was still up on the porch with my buddy. It was loaded, but no cap, no primber cap on that I wouldn't I'm not going to put that until I get to my stand or the ground line now. But so that all of that being said, because I quickly was thinking, I wasn't really thinking it at the moment. Afterwards, I'm thinking about it and I'm like, I couldn't have got to the forty five and the musloader was up on the cap, up on the porch. I probably would have literally another two seconds, I think, and I'm guessing, and I'm not trying to dramatize, but I probably would have jumped up and started yelling, just yelling at the top of my lungs and just started yelling and pray it took off running, And that definitely would have also got my buddy's attention directed towards me, and I would have been yelling loud enough to bring everybody that was in the cabin, which is four more people, bring them out of the cabin, you know what I mean. It's not a big place, so that's probably what I would have done. Decision, don't know, but that's all that comes to mind at the time. Sure, sense of

33:42 photo about it? What do you think it is that we're dealing with when we talk about big foot sasquatch, there's a lot of different ideas floating around, and have you come to a decision in your mind what you think you're on with out there? Obviously to me, you can't help but not think about it more than I care to and um, I know it's Genesis six four in the Bible talks about the nephelum. So is that some form of relative or some form of nephelum? I am, I'm a man of faith, and I do believe that what the Bible says. And so is that what it is? I don't know? Or is it what do they call that really large monkey gigantipithecus. I guess they said where they have proven proven there was a bipedal ape approximately that size in Asia. I my best guess would it would be somewhere a gene a relative of the like gigantipithecus. Just over several thousands and thousands of years it is developed into what it may be now, or maybe it has something to do with Genesis six four. I

35:16 think it's one of those two. But I really, obviously I don't know. But I think it's flesh. I think it's flesh and bone and blood. I don't think it's I don't have any reason to think it's like something from somewhere else. Gotcha? Very interesting? The cool thing about this show is I talk to a lot of different people, and there's a lot of different ideas out there, and right now. There's no wrong or right answers, no matter what people may say. Going back to the October over twenty nineteen, I believe was when that account was. It was back when you are near the mountain to seed trail. You do you mind? I don't know if you're able to share what county that was in Ash County, Ash County ash ash A s he not. Many people get confused with Nash with an end, But that's down east. That's down the east coast Okay, so ash Ash County, yes, or Ash County borders borders Virginia and Tennessee.

36:37 It's the very northwest corner. The southwest corner does go way west, way down there towards Shattoga, Tennessee, and way down there and drop on top of Georgia. But um up in the corner, like I said, near Tennessee and Virginia. Gotcha. There's a few things said I noticed about your account from that area that we're really interesting. One is I've never heard an account where there are voices heard and then a wood knock actually interrupted the voices. That is just the most unique thing that I've heard in a while.

37:19 It's very cool and maybe it's due to my I've been only been doing this for four or five years, but I've yet to hear one that sounds like that. Listeners, if you've heard one like that too, let me know. But you mentioned there's like the whispering voices, yes, or have you ever heard anything that sounds similar to those whispering voices. I've heard things on the internet or YouTube like the ear sounds or the different chatter. I've heard those things on television, Yes, I have. I honestly don't know if i'd heard them at that point or not, but I mean, it wouldn't have mattered. I I'm very confident in what I was listening to.

38:16 Oh definitely. And did they sound similar to the Sierra sounds? Though you think no? If I had no, sir, I'm sorry. If I had to put it in some form of a category, I would have put it towards what is a gentleman's name in Tennessee? He has he does a lot of hiking in the Smoky Carpenter last name of Carpenter, Scott Carpenter television. I see his television or his YouTube channel and apparently yes, or that's him, and apparently he has recordings of some form of chatter, and he sent and it's on the television, it's on his YouTube channel as well as Survivor Man went out there and did a full episode in the Smokies, including interviewing him and listening to these recorded sounds, and so if I had to put it in the category, but the ones that Scott Carpenter recorded are very loud, like an argument, like screening yelling. That's what it sounds like to me. Anyway, what I was listening to sounded like that, but in a heavy whisper. They were definitely whispering, and it was or talking very lowly because it was very heavy and so like that, very low, and very one of them was lower than I could go. And I can

39:47 go low, I couldn't. I can't go as low as the one I heard. And one of them was a very very heavy sounding. Even though the tone there were different tones, they were all very heavy sounding. And I don't know how to explain it other than that I suspect and if I'm trying to unfold that in my mind after it happened, because like I said, I didn't give any time on that scenario to find out what occurred seconds after I heard the woodknock because I was inside quick. That put me on my feet. I was out of there, but like I had mentioned, I was being silhouetted by a streetlight. So I'm wondering if there were three back there towards the mount of the seat trail, and maybe one milling a little closer towards my house, it very easily could have seen me and washed every move I made because I'm silhouetted on my cardboard. But i'd never see anything back there other than blackness. And maybe it read in my body language said hey, I'm listening to something here, because I moved around on the carboard and was listening there sound asleep. There's their car, they're all blacked out for the night. It's two am. They're not home. Over there, this straight back wood, it's black nothing, and nobody's there, and I'm listening to three different heavy whispers. And I'm sure at that time I

41:21 think I'm by myself, So I'm sure if my body language was pretty easy to read that I was trying to listen to something, and maybe it was the forest was trying to tell the other three to shut up. I don't know, that's what went through my mind afterwards, is that what it was? I have no idea, but I will stand by what I heard. I knew what I was listening to, and I was stone sober, wide away, unfortunately away, and I was just walking around board or the stuff on television. I couldn't sleep, and I was It is not in a common for me to walk out onto the car board round to my garage as you're wherever different portions of my life and mill around and I was out there on the cardboard when all of this unfolded. Wow, Chris, I talked to a lot of people from eastern Tennessee, from western North Carolina, and there's something about this area that there's a lot of wild bigfoot stuff or just weird stuff that happens in this area. Is that something you've ever thought about, Like, why is it that it just it seems to really be right in this area for some reason. I have thought about it, and it would be just here speculation, because I obviously don't know. I have heard of other big foot sightings in different portions of the state, but like you

42:52 mentioned, I've heard of several watching YouTube again, several up and down East Tennessee, Western North Carolina in the mountains southwest Virginia up to West Virginia, Western Virginia, all the way up down to northern Georgia then to Alabama, and it's like that Appalachian Corridor, just like the Appalachian Trail. I wonder if that is a traveling corridor for them where they because if you look on a map, starting from the Northern Georgia area, I'll just start there, it's easy to find one link to the next, from one national force to the next national force to the next national force, going all the way up by of the Appalachians, almost all the way up until you get up into little bits of Maryland and Pennsylvania and it changes a little bit. But especially through this area, it's there's it's very thick, very thick, very green, very rural, and just lots and lots the force. Again, that would be a speculation, but that would certainly give them food, cover, water, and they pretty reasonable travel route, especially if they are if they do have the physical ability that is suspected, with the intelligence level that is suspected, I think it would probably pretty easy for him to be honest with you, I think that makes total sense. Chris, for sure, you

44:24 think about it. Because of that trail, We've left that area pretty good, especially for a creature that would want to be traveling man all the way up to northern Maine. We know that there's some wild stuff up there, There's no doubt about it. But oh absolutely, yes, Maine has big woods like they do out west. Ain't a pretty real place, Yes, sir, it's on a crazy and again, I promise you, I'm telling you the truth. And I know this is a lot of weird stuff, but it is everything I've heard and I just cannot explain and through process of elimination, like everything I know that didn't do it. I know this didn't make that sound. There's no way that could have made this sound. I know this didn't make that sound. And there's no way there was anybody else back there, what else has done made these noises? Because I know what I'm listening to, and I know i'm repeating myself on that, I guess I'm trying to just drive a point that I'm I wouldn't be on the phone with you if I conceive me if I weren't one hundred percent confident in what I was listening to. But until I put my eyes on it. I can't say exactly what it was, I can certainly tell you what it wasn't.

45:52 Yeah, there you go, Chris. If you could think for a minute, imagine there's person listening that they haven't told anyone what's happened to them regarding Bigfoot because they're afraid they're going to get made fun of or something like that. Can you share with them, like you're talking to them? Why is it important to share the things that you've encountered to get it off your chest being honest? For me personally, just contacting you made me feel better because I don't know why, but these different things that have happened to me are on my mind. A lot of this why I don't I'm not the kind of guy that walks away not knowing why. And I'm like, why what am I listening to? What is it? More of a what am I listening to? What is it out there? And and I have tried to talk to a couple of people before and they were nice enough not to laugh at me, but they may as well have. I just didn't talk about it anymore for that reason. But when I reached out to you, I instantly felt better. And I actually am be honest with your feeling a little relieved having this conversation with you finally telling somebody that may actually believe you.

47:23 And to add to that would be just like the person that might be out there listening. If no one steps up and says, hey, I heard this over here, Hey I saw that. We don't know if nobody heard, nobody saw, or a hundred people heard and a hundred people saw. So as one person says something, usually another one might say something. Then another one might say something, and then the naysayers may actually start paying a little more attension. Because that's all I told a couple of guys is go do your own research. Man. That's what I did. I did if I share incidence because I was bored, because I was hurt, so I started watching it, I said, But then I started there's just to me, there's too much out there to ignore. And that's even not even counting the things that I've heard. There's too much out there to just ignore.

48:15 And the more honest people get out there and tell the truth, Hey, it's going to make you feel better. It's that makes me feel better to finally get it off my chest. But also you would be giving someone the green light to step up to tell them or tell their story, and then it kind of domino effects from there. Absolutely. Oh yeah, no, I agree, I Chris. I'm glad that you were able to share what you experienced with me, and thank you, Chris. Yes, I appreciate you listening to me. So if anyone that's listening to this, if you're on the podcast, you can hop over to YouTube use the comments there.

49:05 If any of the stuff that you know Chris has shared tonight, if that reminds you of something or you experience something similar in the same area as definitely leave that in the comments. We might be able to connect some dots through that and get Chris some more information. But thanks so much for spending some time with me tonight, Chris. It's been really fun chatting with you. And if anything else ever comes out, don't be afraid to reach out. Man, I appreciate it's my pleasure. I thank you very much. Become a supporting member of The big Foot Society podcast by going to www dot Patreon dot com forward slash the Bigfoot Society and receive extra episodes and early ad free episodes as well. If you've got a personal bigfoot encounter you would like to submit for me to share on the podcast. Please head on over to www dot Bigfoot Society podcast dot com. There you'll find the Share your Foot Encounter form a little lower on the page, and please take a minute to share as many details as you can. Please state if the encounter is anonymous or what name you would like associated with the encounter, and as always, thanks for listening.