May 15, 2025

Rogue Sasquatch in the UK: Bizarre Sightings and Deadly Secrets

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Season 1

What happens when a man in the UK encounters a Sasquatch on a dark, desolate road? In this chilling episode, we sit down with K, a Bigfoot witness from the southwest of England. What started as a casual drive through empty countryside soon turned into an encounter with a creature that defied all logic. K describes seeing a massive foot, covered in orangutan-like orange fur, lifting at a 90-degree angle and disappearing into the hedge. His experience continues with a terrifying encounter with glowing eyes and a series of mysterious bangs in the woods. From broken deer carcasses arranged as dark art to the eerie sense of being watched, this episode delves into K's journey of disbelief to awe. Hear about the unexpected gifts left for him by Sasquatch and his thoughts on the unexplainable phenomena that seem to follow in the wake of these encounters. Join us for this gripping, mysterious tale of the unknown in the UK.

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You're listening to Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron

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Tonight's story doesn't come from the mountains of North America,

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but from the misty hills of the southwest United Kingdom.

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Kay was just driving home on a quiet country road.

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He saw something no one could expect, a massive foot

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as big as his chest, disappearing into the hedge, and

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moments later, the glowing eye of something massive steered back

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at him from the darkness. This is not a legend.

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It's a first hand account of an encounter with something ancient,

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powerful and very real. So stay with us. I pick

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the Society. You've got the privilege of talking to Kay today.

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Kay as an individual that reached out to me from

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the United Kingdom about an interesting experience that he had

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over there. I believe this is the first interview we've

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had from this country, so welcome to the show today. Kay.

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How are you doing today, sir.

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I'm very well. Thank you great to be here.

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I am really excited to have this. We've talked to

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someone from India before, but you are the first for

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the United Kingdom, so this is fantastic. I know a

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little bit about the sightings that happen over there, but

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really not a lot. My forte is more in the

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United States. So I'm curious to learn about what people,

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mainly yourself, have been experiencing over there in that country.

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So I'll go ahead and feel free to take us

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back to when you experienced something out there.

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Okay, So grown up in the UK, in the southwest

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of the United Kingdom, we have a lot of trees.

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There's trees everywhere. It's real rolling countryside, lots of hills.

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There's a lot of small towns, a lot of small villages.

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There's some bigger cities, but it is mostly tree covered

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and we have kind of like it's known as sort

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of the green Man. It features a lot of artwork,

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a lot of older stories of it's kind of the

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protective spirit of the forest, as it were. And so, yeah,

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I grew up looking at these bits of artwork, hearing

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about them, but never really took it seriously, you know.

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It was just a background thing. Like I can remember

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being a kid watching Finding Bigfoot with my dad on

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TV and just kind of laughing at the silliness of it,

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you know. But then I grew up and I started

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driving around and my first experience was gone midnight on

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a country road heading back to my coastal little town,

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and yeah, you know, I was driving along. The road

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is completely empty. It was just after sort of New

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Year times, so it's very cold, not any people are

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are on the roads, and you know, driving around at nighttime,

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you see we've got a lot of deer. More often

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than not you see them on the side of the

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road after they've been hit, but sometimes you see them

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jumping around. Something to keep in mind when you're doing

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sixty miles an hour on an empty road, because deers

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are very solid. But yeah, so there's one night I'm

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heading up a very tight set of corners. It's like

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a tight left and a tight right and a tight left,

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and the locals caught the corkscrew and I get to

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the last corner of this bit of road going quite slowly.

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There's no headlights coming, so I keep my main beams

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on and as I go round the corner, there's a

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straight road in front of me, and I saw something

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go into the head on the left about thirty forty

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maybe fifty feet up in front. I'm not quite sure

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what that is in meters, but yeah, you know, not

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very far away, really and as soon as I saw it,

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my brain said to me, that is not a deer,

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because you know, like I say, anything really that you

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see disappear into a hedge, that's big. It's going to

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be a deer. A bit smaller, it's going to be

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a fox or a dog, maybe a badger. You know,

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those are normal things that we see. And what I

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saw was not any of that. It was a foot

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that was the size of my chest and I'm six

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feet tall, and the skin on the bottom of the

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foot was like a dark gray, and the hair poking

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down through the foot, you know, like covering the foot,

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and the bartom of the leg was this orangutang orange,

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like a bright orange, and it disappeared into the hedge

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at a very high angle of lift, like like the

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heel came up to sort of where the knee would

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be at about like ninety degrees, and it disappeared very

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very quickly. And as soon as it did disappear, my

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brain was like, well there, you know, And before I

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could even really finish that thought, my attention was locked

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on the right hand side of the road. So this foot,

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this gigantic foot, disappeared on the left hand edge and

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even further past it on the other side of the road,

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there was just one eye and it was massive, and

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it was staring right at me the darkness, this big eye,

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and my attention was just completely locked on this eye

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staring at me. And I continued to drive forwards, and

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I was very aware that I was rapidly approaching the

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point on the left where the foot had disappeared. And

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as soon as I passed the space on the left

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where it had disappeared, and i'd gone past it, this

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right eye, or that the eye on the right, rather,

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it just blinked out and disappeared. And like you know,

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I've done a lot of night driving. There's a lot

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of dogs around, you know. Every time your headlights light

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up on the dog's eyes, they shine quite brightly. But

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it were quite a small size, you know, even a

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fully grown labrador, it's very small. This eye shine looked

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to be about five or six times the size of

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fully grown labrador's eye. Like, this was a big eye.

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And the timing of it just told me very clearly

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that whatever being that I belonged to was making sure

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that I did not stop and investigate what I'd seen

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on the left. And as soon as i'd passed that

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place without slowly down, it disappeared. And I can tell

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you honestly, when I passed the place on the right

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where that I was, I did not look right. I

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didn't trust myself to not have a reaction if I

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did see something, and I was still about a mile

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or so away from my home in the cold, in

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the dark, on my own. The idea of crashing the

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car and being out there with whatever that was, I mean,

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in my mind, there's one thing it could be. There's

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nothing that has feet that size in this country. There's

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nothing that has hair with a foot that size in

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this country, at least there's not supposed to be, you know,

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like we we had these kinds of distinctions in our

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mind between what is and what is not. And when

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you see something that is not but is, you know,

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the eyes don't lie. I kind of wish I had

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it on camera, like a DA cam, but I didn't.

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So I have no proof of that other than the

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fact that it is something that I'll never forget. You know.

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Every time I drive past that space on the road

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a bit, daytime or nighttime, I'm looking, you know, And

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I've seen other things that were very subtle and not

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as obvious, but that foot, the way it lifted up

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so high as it disappeared into the hedge, and the

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share size of it, I mean, it was legitimately the

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size of my chest. The power of a creature like

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that is just unreal. And the size of the eye,

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and the fact that it didn't blink once. I mean

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I certainly didn't blink, and neither did it. It was.

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They never travel alone, in my understanding, if they're truly alone,

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if they're not, just you know, you see one and

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there's another couple around that you haven't seen, so you

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think it's alone. They always traveling units. They always have

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each other's backs. But I don't think if you do

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actually encounter one that is truly alone, I think that

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would be a bad situation. I think they're kind of

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like humans in the they police their own society as

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it were. You know, they have their own rules, their

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own ways of operating, and I think if you break them,

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then you become an outcast, just like it is with

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human society. And I think if you were unfortunate enough

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to encounter a solo outcast, it would be like encountering

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a human that's escaped from a mental institution or something

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like that. You know, probably very dangerous, not the kind

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of experience that you would want. So yeah, I after

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I had that experience and I saw the foot in

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the eye, it changed the way that I looked at things,

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and I started doing more research and learning more. And

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when I go out into the woods on my own

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during the day, I don't. I don't go into the

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woods on my own at night. It's not my territory.

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But yeah, when I go into the woods, i'd see

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things differently, you know, because you understand that it's not

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just humans out there changing things, moving things, arranging things.

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You know, you'd find an enormous piece of tree that

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have been rolled up an embankment down into a brook,

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and you look at the weight of it and you're

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just thinking, there's no way humans did that, And even

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if they could, why would they. There's a lot of

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a lot of logging and activity in the woods, which

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is obviously quite a disturbance for them because that's where

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they live. I don't know if the ones that are

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down here are down here full time. Wouldn't surprise me

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if they were. I mean, I've heard it said that

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if an environment can survive can support a large population

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of deer, then they can support anything that feeds on

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the deer, and deer in this country are in endemic proportions.

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There's too many of them, and so there's absolutely all

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the food they could wish for. Before I forget quickly,

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there was another thing that I experienced, and this made

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absolutely no sense to me whatsoever. Still doesn't really. I

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was driving back to my hometown on a very straight

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piece of road and in the middle of this road

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there was half a deer. It was either the front

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half or the back half. I think it was the

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front half. I'm pretty sure it was the front half,

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you know, ripped basically right down the middle. And you know,

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deers can get hit by trucks and they write the

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truck off and the deer just walks off into the

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hedge because they're solid. And so for something to apply

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enough force to a deer to rip it in half,

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that's a lot of force. I'd expect to find twisted metal,

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you know, around that site, But there was nothing. All

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there was was the front half of a deer lying

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in the of a road, and where the back half

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should have been, it wasn't. It was clean gone, but

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coming out of the front half was it was an

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arc like like like a perfect sort of rainbow ninety

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degrees made out of guts intestine, and it was so

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perfectly laid out that it was like it had been

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arranged like artwork almost. And obviously I'm driving past this

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at a pretty high speed, you know, it's a fifty

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sixty mile hour road. But what I saw was very

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very clearly imprinted in my mind, and it baffled me.

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I thought, how you know, there's if a truck, if

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a big lorry hit a deer, I don't have to

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rip its hind quarters off and send it clean out

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of the road. There's no way that the intestines would

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be laid out in this perfect ninety degree rainbow arc.

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It just doesn't make sense. The very next morning, I

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was driving back along that road and I was very

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much looking for what I'd seen the night before, and

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I can tell you I slowed down and I was

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scanning for even just the smallest patch of blood on

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the road. There was nothing, absolutely nothing like it had

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been professionally cleaned up, which is very odd, very very odd.

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So going back to sort of the main experiences, as

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it were, I think it would have been about three

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or four months after I saw the foot in the eye.

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I was camping with my best mate in a bit

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of woodland that's just down from his family farm in

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the country, and it's very very quiet. There's a train

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line maybe half a mile or three quarters of a

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mile away, you know, in the dead and night, you

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can hear the train line. It was sort of mid

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spring when we were camping, so it was cold. There

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weren't any leaves on the trees, or the leaves on

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the ground were very dry. You know, even mouse had

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been scampering around on the forest floor, we'd have heard

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it very clearly. And yeah, we were you know, we

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were camping, we were chilling, we were enjoying, and I

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wasn't even thinking about what I'd seen and experienced months earlier,

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you know, I was just enjoying the time with my

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friend out in the wild. And so he went to

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bed and there's there's just sort of embers left on

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the fire, and crouched down over the embers of the fire,

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soaking in the last little bit of heat, and I'm

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not even thinking about anything, you know, I'm just just

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vibing in the the chilled, quiet atmosphere and out of nowhere.

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What sounds like about thirty odd feet to my left,

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slightly behind, like the side on axis. You know, you've

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got like straight in front of you, straight behind, directly

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left and directly right. Well this is just passed directly

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left to behind me, and there's this boom, and it's

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like it's like someone's smashed a mid sized tree into

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a big tree and an unbelievable explosion, you know, in

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the woods. Less than half a second later, about sounds

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about ten feet closer another of these booms, and then

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again even closer still boom, and then right behind me boom,

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and then moving off to the right boom, and then

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moving over again boom. So it was from about thirty

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feet over to the left going all the way to

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thirty feet over to the right. So it sounds like

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it's covering about fifty sixty feet in about less than

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two seconds. And all I can hear there is these

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insane bangs, you know, bang, And I've never heard anything

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like it before in my life. It was the single

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most ridiculous thing I'd ever heard. And there was no

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other noise, no other noise, not a twig snapped, a

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leaf got stepped on, not even a piece of bark

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falling from a tree. Now, I know that if I

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took a metal baseball bat to a big tree as

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hard as I could, I'm knocking bits of bark off

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that tree. Then the bark is going to fall on

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the floor and you're going to hear it. But there

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was none of that. And so yeah, the explosions went off,

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you know, and I sorry, as carl along going off outside.

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I got up and then I moved as carefully and

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as quietly and as composedly as I could to my

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mate's tent, and he's kind of out of it. All

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I could think to say at that moment was we're

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not alone out here. And I barely got any response.

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I figured, okay, I pretty much had my leone. I

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got into my tent and I had a tiny little

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knife with me, you know, just a little bushcrafting, and

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I'm just lying there waiting for another sound. And I

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think maybe I heard some kind of movement, but it

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wasn't like certain, you know. And I woke up in

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the morning, and you know, we were fine. And I

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asked my friend, I said, after you went to bed,

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what do you remember of last night, and he told

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me he remembered hearing thunder. There was no wind or

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rain or storm that night at all. It was a

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completely still night, and yet he told me he remembered

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hearing thunder. And with the rapidness of these explosions, it

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makes sense, makes sense that that's what his mind would

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attach that too. Now, from what I can understand, none

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of the so called wood knocks that we hear. I mean,

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that's what it sounds like. It really sounds like wood

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hitting wood, but it isn't and it can't be because

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there's no piece of wood that could withstand the the

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hits as it were, you know, it would break with

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the forces involved. Even the most premium grade baseball bat

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would shatter with the forces being applied. And so that

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led me to a realization, which is that all of

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the wood knocks that we hear, none of them are

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created by wood. It's all ventriloquism. It's all noises made

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with the mouth and the throat, you know. And that's

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how they were able to throw a voice from thirty

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feet over to my left to thirty feet over to

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my right in less than two seconds in dense woodland

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dry woodland with no trail to run along. I mean

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usaying bolt with a baseball bat couldn't have covered that

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distance in that amount of time making those noises. The

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only way it works in my mind is throwing voice,

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you know, making the immity with the vocals and with

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the size of these beings and the power of their voice.

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I mean, my goodness, I've never heard a scream myself,

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you know, if I've heard them online. They sound terrifying,

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fairly so. And if I was subjected to a scream

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like that, it would probably turn me into a bit

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of a puddle, because it's just as modern humans, we're

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not used to being around that kind of raw power,

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And probably the closest we would get is being around

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a truck or a piece of plant machinery from a

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building site. You know that the power involved is just

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mind boggling and scary, you know, for for good reason.

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Like with that foot that I saw being the size

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of my chest and the corresponding body attached to it,

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it will pot me like a grape if it wanted

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to row out, if those beings that are on that

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road that night wanted to rip my car apart like

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a tin can tuna and pull me out and chew

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me down. They'd a bit nice single thing I could

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do about it. I mean, clearly they didn't want to,

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and clearly they don't want to for the most part,

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at least. Like I say, in any group, you're going

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to get mostly good ones and you're going to get

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some bad ones. And I don't think they're any different.

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I think there's good law abiding citizens in the Sasquatch

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society as it were, and then you got your rogue

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psychos and those. You know, if missing people reports are

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to be attributed to big foot activity, ain't the regulars,

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ain't the families doing it. It's the lone psychos, you know.

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And I'm sure that they do a pretty good job

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at policing themselves, and that's how they've managed to stay hidden,

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Like their number one priority is stay hidden. I'm sure

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they're aware of what humans are like. And that's another thing.

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Whilst I was lying in that tent after hearing those

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insane wood knock explosions in the woods. I don't know

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if you're familiar with the work of Lloyd Pye, tool

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he has a speech in YouTube.

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It's weird because it just came up in an interview

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the other day, and I've never heard of the guy

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in my last person I talked to from the West

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coast of the US literally just brought the same dude.

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Awesome. Yeah, he's great, and rest his soul, bless him.

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I think that everyone needs to watch and listen to

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and make notes on everything you know is wrong in

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that he talks about how essentially beings from the stars

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came down to Earth and took primitive man and mixed

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their DNA with primitive man and made us. You know,

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And whilst I was lying there in that tent with

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that small blade, waiting for a hand to reach out,

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I was thinking about how awful it would have been

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for those original humans to be on Earth and then

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suddenly to have their friends, their family essentially abducted and

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transmuted into a smaller, weaker animal that takes the hunting

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to you in packs out of fear, and drives you

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and your remaining friends and loved ones to the most

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unlivable places in the world and keep you there essentially.

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You know that, whilst I'm lying there waiting to essentially

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be attacked, which never happened. It's just all in my head.

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But now with my mate saying that he heard thunder,

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I know for a fact I did not hallucinate those explosions.

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You know, they were not a figment of my imagination.

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They were absolutely real. And the physical reaction that I

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had in my gut, in my bones after hearing that

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display of power, there's no mistaking that, you know. But yeah,

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it is tragic the way that everything has been divided

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and obscured and the truth has just been buried for

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so long about who we are, what we are, who

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they are, what they are, uh, what this planet is

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really about? You know. It's Yeah, it's really unfortunate. We

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can't change the past, though, but if we can learn

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from it, hopefully we can change the future.

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Absolutely. What what an incredible journey that you've been on

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already through experiencing these situations that you've been in and

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over in the UK. I would love to definitely ask

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a few questions of you. So when you had you're

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driving along on the road, the only so the only

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part you see of whatever whatever goes into the hedge

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is the part of the leg just above the ankle

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in the foot, Is that right?

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Yeah? It was a it was a trailing shin and

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an ankle and a heel and a foot with toes.

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The viewpoint that you had, were you able to see

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how many toes it had as well?

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No, No, it was purely sided on, purely side on,

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but I could tell that there was there was an

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area that looked like a heel, and an area that

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looked like a sort of a midfoot, and then it

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tapered down, but the long orange hair sort of spiking down,

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kind of like an animal's hair does around the foot,

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you know, like with a bear, for instance. I'm much

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more familiar with the rangutangs up close and personal than

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I am bears, but I know that they can get

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pretty orange. And I imagine if you looked at the

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base of their foot from a side on perspective, as

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it was on the floor, you'd be able to see

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a little bit of the sort of gray pad as

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the hair was sort of spiking down, you know. And

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that's basically what I saw. There was a definite grayness

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to the skin and an absolute orange ness of the hair,

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which surprised me. You know, I really wasn't expecting orange hair.

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But then I wasn't expecting to see that at all.

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You know, right exactly so you're looking at the bottom

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of the feet. Did you notice anything out of the ordinary?

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Did the foot move in a way that you weren't

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expecting it to move, or was it just flat across

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as it lifted off the ground and then went into

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the hedge.

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The thing that really jumped out to me was how

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high the heel lifted before the foot began to move

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forwards into the hedge. Do you know what I mean?

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So like when human steps. There's a YouTuber called thinker Thunker.

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I don't know if you're familiar with him at tor sure, yep, yeah, yeah.

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Have you seen his stuff where he does breakdowns of

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a woman in high heels, a man in clown shoes.

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No matter what you're wearing, the legs move the same

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way and they're relatively the same height of lift, the

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same angle in relation to the knee. This was ninety degrees.

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You know, it was way beyond what a human moves at.

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And you know, my dad joked and saying, like I

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was a guy in a gilly suit, Like, no guy

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has a foot the size on my chest. No guy

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wears an orange gilly suit at like half one in

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the morning, just gone New Year's and no guy lifts

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his heel to that angle whilst stepping, even on rough terrain.

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It doesn't work. It's very unnatural. And yeah, the height

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of the lift of the heel really just sort of

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screamed out to me as a crucial sort of detail.

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And the speed at which it disappeared, I mean, it

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was I don't know if before I saw it it

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had more of itself out of the hedge and it

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was looking at me or whatever, and it just turned

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super quick and all I caught was the foot, or

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if the foot was all that was there and that's

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all I saw, But yeah, I mean it certainly wasn't

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all that was there, because on the other side of

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the road there was another being further down, And like

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I say, with the timing and everything, like, as soon

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as I passed the point on the left, the eye

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just blinked out, and that's it was covering for it,

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you know. I mean, God knows what would have happened

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if I'd have stopped, if I'd have been dumb enough

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to stop and get out of the car and have

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a look in the hedge and look for a footprint.

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I mean, yeah, it's really cool that you were able

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to see something that most people dream of seeing in

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their lifetime and just try to imagine what it's like

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based on track cast. But you were actually able to

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see the movement of the foot as it walked away,

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and you're focused on it because that's all you really

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have to see. It's just it's a very very cool sighting.

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There's a lot to learn from that, for sure by

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people that are more smarter than me, no doubt. When

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when you saw the one the one I on the

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other side of the road, how high up roughly was

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that from the ground.

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I would approximate between six and a half and seven

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and a half feet. Okay, it wasn't super high, but

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it wasn't low either. It was i'd say, above the

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roof of my truck, which is about six feet, but

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it was. It was double the distance from the foot

463
00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:51.119
like when I initially saw it. You know, as soon

464
00:31:51.160 --> 00:31:54.480
as it disappeared, before my brain had even processed what

465
00:31:54.599 --> 00:31:57.839
had happened, my attention was already locked on the other

466
00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:00.039
side of the road by being stared at by the

467
00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:01.920
biggest I I've ever seen on dry land.

468
00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:11.119
It's incredible. Just to give us a bit of context,

469
00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:15.839
most listeners are going to be familiar with sightings from

470
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:22.160
the United United States side of things. How often are

471
00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:27.319
people seeing things that look like an orangutan or have

472
00:32:27.400 --> 00:32:29.799
the same color as an orangutan out in the woods

473
00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:32.440
in the United Kingdom? Is it reported a lot? Or

474
00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:33.400
is this pretty rare?

475
00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:38.920
I have yet to hear of a report of an

476
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:44.240
orangutan like being in the UK. Occasionally you'll get a

477
00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:49.799
report of chimp on the loose or just a sort

478
00:32:49.839 --> 00:32:54.519
of a black blob that. There have been some reports

479
00:32:54.920 --> 00:32:59.480
off of the mountains in Ireland and Scotland of white ones.

480
00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:04.160
I wouldn't be surprised at all if they came in

481
00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:09.279
many colors, from black to gray, to white to sort

482
00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:11.720
of a creamy color and then right on into the

483
00:33:11.759 --> 00:33:16.079
orange and the brown. But yeah, I mean most of

484
00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:20.799
the reports that I've heard have been darker or lighter.

485
00:33:21.799 --> 00:33:25.640
I can't remember of an orange report in the UK.

486
00:33:28.319 --> 00:33:32.000
Yeah, that is really interesting because it would be the

487
00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:34.519
first time that I've heard of one as well, and

488
00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:37.319
I know we have listeners all over the world. I'd

489
00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:41.839
be really curious if people know of other reports. Maybe

490
00:33:41.839 --> 00:33:43.759
they can put that in the comments or email me

491
00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:49.680
about those. HM. The deer that you saw ripped in

492
00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:55.079
have Do you remember if did it seem to have

493
00:33:55.119 --> 00:33:57.680
a broken neck at all? Or was the neck in

494
00:33:57.720 --> 00:34:00.000
the head normal for the.

495
00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:07.279
I don't remember any kind of strange angles in the

496
00:34:07.319 --> 00:34:10.519
head and the neck. Honestly, my attention was more focused

497
00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:16.639
on the layout of it's in its The sort of

498
00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:20.159
perfect ninety de greenness of it really threw me off.

499
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:27.239
It felt like some dark art, you know. But yeah,

500
00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:31.119
I can't remember if it had a broken neck. I

501
00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:34.559
seem to remember that it was the front half and

502
00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:36.920
that it was the ass and that had been taken.

503
00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:41.920
I'm guessing there's more meat on the hind quarters. But

504
00:34:42.760 --> 00:34:45.360
the whole thing doesn't really make sense to me. I mean,

505
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:48.880
why leave a mess, and why leave it in such

506
00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:54.679
a public place, and why why arrange things the way

507
00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:59.360
they were arranged? I mean it just like, you know,

508
00:34:59.400 --> 00:34:59.840
how tough.

509
00:35:00.599 --> 00:35:04.559
Yeah, oh yeah, we've gotten all over the place absolutely.

510
00:35:04.599 --> 00:35:08.480
Yeah, yeah. I mean, like to have the force necessary

511
00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:11.559
to rip a there in half, you know, right along

512
00:35:11.679 --> 00:35:13.960
the middle of the spine, so that it's just a

513
00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:15.880
front half and a back half and then you walk

514
00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:19.079
off with the back half. I mean, for a truck

515
00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:25.000
to do that, it would be an absolute mess, wouldn't it.

516
00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:28.119
It really would. And the other thing is over in

517
00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:32.760
this area, there are no large they're no large predators.

518
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:38.039
Right. Well, you say that we do have big cats.

519
00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:42.440
We do have big cats. They are small in number,

520
00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:46.280
very very elusive. They're very very smart. If they hear

521
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:50.559
you coming, you won't see them. I've seen one my

522
00:35:50.679 --> 00:35:56.440
whole time of being here. And it was really really close. Man.

523
00:35:56.679 --> 00:36:00.320
I was in a field. I was walking home night

524
00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:02.320
from one side of the town that I live on

525
00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:05.360
to the other side where I lived, and I was

526
00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:07.679
on the phone, so the phone was like lighting up

527
00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:10.519
my face. And I've walked through this field more times

528
00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:14.400
than I could count. I know all of the clumps

529
00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:18.000
of bushes that are in this field. And as I

530
00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:22.320
walked through this turnstile gate, I took about maybe eight

531
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:24.679
or ten steps into the field and it sort of

532
00:36:24.719 --> 00:36:30.079
opens up around a corner, and right on my left, maybe.

533
00:36:31.239 --> 00:36:35.280
Maybe ten or twelve feet away, there was this hour

534
00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:42.199
glass silhouette of perfect blackness just sitting in the grass.

535
00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:47.840
And there should be no blackness there at all, but

536
00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:51.440
with the sleekness of the shape and the size of

537
00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:54.719
the shape. As I'm on the phone, my brain said

538
00:36:54.719 --> 00:36:59.320
to me, loud and clear, pretend like you saw nothing,

539
00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:04.840
and pray it stays sat there, because I think it

540
00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:07.159
was there waiting for a deer. It was waiting to

541
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:11.920
ambush a deer. And thankfully it had the sense to

542
00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:15.400
realize I was not what it was after, and I

543
00:37:15.559 --> 00:37:21.280
just walked off. But yeah, there's in my mind there's

544
00:37:21.519 --> 00:37:25.280
only one thing that that black silhouette could have been,

545
00:37:26.039 --> 00:37:32.079
and that's a big cat, very very close, closer than

546
00:37:32.119 --> 00:37:34.159
I ever imagined I would be to one of them

547
00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:36.360
in the wild, and I'm very glad I didn't get

548
00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:41.159
any closer. I think if I had spooked it, it

549
00:37:41.199 --> 00:37:44.920
would not have been good, because they're incredibly powerful, you know,

550
00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:48.519
with the speed and the strength and their teeth and

551
00:37:48.559 --> 00:37:51.639
their claws. I mean, yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't fancy

552
00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:55.039
tangling with one of them alone in a field at night.

553
00:37:56.559 --> 00:37:58.679
But yeah, I mean, we do have big cats, but

554
00:37:58.760 --> 00:38:01.960
there's no way, there is no way a big cat

555
00:38:02.119 --> 00:38:04.800
ripped that there in half like that and arranged those

556
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:09.280
intestines like that. There's just no chance it would have

557
00:38:09.320 --> 00:38:13.280
dragged the thing off whole. For a start, Yeah, it

558
00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:17.599
would not waste food, and the fact that that front

559
00:38:17.639 --> 00:38:22.800
half was left there with all of those relatively nutritious intestines.

560
00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:27.639
It just it doesn't make sense. And probably what's even

561
00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:30.599
stranger to me still is there was not one drop

562
00:38:30.599 --> 00:38:33.239
of blood on the road the next day, like like

563
00:38:33.280 --> 00:38:36.800
a cleaning crew had come in and blasted the road clean.

564
00:38:39.320 --> 00:38:43.159
Yeah, that's that's really weird. You'd mentioned the dark arts

565
00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:50.000
and over here sometimes in the words you'll see stuff

566
00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:54.239
that could be attributed to probably similar things, but more

567
00:38:54.280 --> 00:39:03.239
often like cults or you know, things that are satanic,

568
00:39:03.280 --> 00:39:06.079
et cetera. And sometimes you do find some weird things

569
00:39:06.079 --> 00:39:09.000
in the woods. But yeah, what you described there is

570
00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:13.000
just something of a totally different scenario I believe.

571
00:39:13.760 --> 00:39:16.800
I mean it was it was. It was artwork, and

572
00:39:17.079 --> 00:39:22.800
it was dark, you know, it was it was raw,

573
00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:26.920
it was it was like, yeah, I don't know, you

574
00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:31.280
know how like in their tribal depictions sometimes you have

575
00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:33.559
different parts of different animals that be put into a

576
00:39:33.599 --> 00:39:36.360
bowl and the bowl is spilled out, and they'll use

577
00:39:36.519 --> 00:39:40.320
the arrangement of what was in the bowl to divine

578
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:44.760
a fortune or something to predict the future. Not it was.

579
00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:47.519
I don't think it was art like that, but I

580
00:39:47.559 --> 00:39:50.960
think I think there was a meaning to it, but

581
00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:54.280
I don't know what or why. I mean it was

582
00:39:54.320 --> 00:39:56.280
it was the most gruesome rainbow I ever saw in

583
00:39:56.280 --> 00:39:59.360
my life. But it really looked like a rainbow. And

584
00:40:00.440 --> 00:40:02.400
I don't think it's something I'll ever forget and I

585
00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:06.039
don't think it's something i'll ever see again or understand.

586
00:40:08.239 --> 00:40:14.400
Wow, it's Yeah, it's quite the visual picture. When when

587
00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:20.000
you think about it, these these experiences that you've had,

588
00:40:21.719 --> 00:40:25.480
I'll ask it a different way actually, So after the

589
00:40:25.559 --> 00:40:29.760
time of experiencing these things and also experiencing what happened

590
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:35.199
when you're out camping with your friend, did you start

591
00:40:35.239 --> 00:40:39.320
to have any things that were out of the ordinary

592
00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:43.119
that happened afterwards in your life, maybe at your home

593
00:40:43.320 --> 00:40:45.719
or anything strange start to happen to you.

594
00:40:48.199 --> 00:40:56.000
Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah. So what I can tell you know,

595
00:40:56.079 --> 00:41:02.760
how like animals can read people's energy and intentions almost

596
00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:07.199
like a sixth sense. I absolutely feel they have it too.

597
00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:12.239
And in my mind, when you go into their home

598
00:41:12.920 --> 00:41:18.320
the woods and you know that they're there, they know

599
00:41:18.519 --> 00:41:23.039
that you know. And when you're in their home and

600
00:41:23.119 --> 00:41:26.079
you don't know that they're there, they also know that

601
00:41:26.199 --> 00:41:29.119
you don't know if that makes any kind of sense.

602
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:30.960
And it makes a hundred percent to me.

603
00:41:31.159 --> 00:41:39.000
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So after I learned what was about,

604
00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:43.400
obviously every time I go into the woods, I'm thinking

605
00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:46.000
about it, you know a lot. I'm thinking about where

606
00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:49.239
they are, what they're doing, how they're doing, what they're

607
00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:54.360
up to. And I think that they can get a

608
00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:58.159
real good read on who people are, what they're about,

609
00:41:58.320 --> 00:42:02.719
what their intentions are. And I think that they know

610
00:42:03.599 --> 00:42:06.559
that I mean them no arm whatsoever. I want to

611
00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:10.880
see them protected, but not in a kind of caged way,

612
00:42:11.119 --> 00:42:16.480
just in a give them their space way. And I

613
00:42:16.519 --> 00:42:22.400
think maybe they appreciate that. I'm very very much into swords.

614
00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:25.519
I love swords. I always have since I was a

615
00:42:25.519 --> 00:42:30.599
little kid, and I still train with pieces of wood

616
00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:35.960
and pieces of metal in sword forms today. And walking

617
00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:39.039
through the woods, and I'm probably about halfway through the

618
00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:42.440
woods to this gravel section that's at the back of

619
00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:45.880
the woods, which I use as a training area, and

620
00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:51.880
walking along and I see a stick lying in the

621
00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:57.320
middle of the trail and it's a good it's a

622
00:42:57.360 --> 00:42:59.960
good got three and three and a bit feet long,

623
00:43:01.360 --> 00:43:04.159
maybe four, And there's a couple of us sort of

624
00:43:04.159 --> 00:43:07.920
shattered bits of wood at either end. So there's this

625
00:43:08.239 --> 00:43:10.840
stick and then broken bits on either end.

626
00:43:10.920 --> 00:43:14.760
And as soon as I saw that stick, my brain

627
00:43:14.840 --> 00:43:20.000
said one word to me, sword and I picked it

628
00:43:20.079 --> 00:43:23.079
up and I carried it to where I was going,

629
00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:25.760
to the gravel path section, and I picked up a

630
00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:28.760
rock and I started to work on this piece of

631
00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:32.960
wood and sort of shave it a little bit and

632
00:43:33.079 --> 00:43:35.840
shape it a little bit, and then I trained with

633
00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:37.559
it and I carry it.

634
00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:39.360
I still have it to this day. It's my favorite

635
00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:43.000
training sword. I call it my Sasquat sword. And in

636
00:43:43.079 --> 00:43:46.760
my mind that was a gift because they know who

637
00:43:46.840 --> 00:43:48.920
I am, they know what I'm into, you know what

638
00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:53.199
I like, and they gave it to me, and I

639
00:43:53.239 --> 00:43:58.519
absolutely love it. I cherish it. But yeah, it was

640
00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:03.519
it was holly, Hollywood from a holly tree, holly bush,

641
00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:07.480
and around where I found it no holly at all.

642
00:44:08.400 --> 00:44:11.039
So it was. It was broken, and it was taken,

643
00:44:11.079 --> 00:44:13.239
and it was left in the middle of that trail

644
00:44:13.480 --> 00:44:16.840
for me to walk along. And I know that a

645
00:44:16.840 --> 00:44:19.360
lot of people would think, oh, you know, that's nothing,

646
00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:23.360
that's got no no significance, no attachment. But to me,

647
00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:29.559
all points in space and time are connected. And everything

648
00:44:29.920 --> 00:44:37.280
feeds into everything else, and consciousnesses are very wide, very

649
00:44:37.320 --> 00:44:42.280
powerful phenomenon. And you know, we, like I was saying

650
00:44:42.280 --> 00:44:48.960
earlier about sort of pre humans being then turned into humans,

651
00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:54.639
like we maintain the connection, you don't suddenly become completely separated.

652
00:44:56.400 --> 00:44:58.920
And I think that we are very much connected to

653
00:44:59.000 --> 00:45:01.960
these beings, where we understand it or not, whether we're

654
00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:07.119
aware of it or not. I've heard many people out

655
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:10.960
there they have that mind speak and they have a

656
00:45:11.039 --> 00:45:14.239
voice in their head that communicates things to them, tells

657
00:45:14.280 --> 00:45:17.280
them where to go, where not to go, when to

658
00:45:17.320 --> 00:45:22.000
be a place. I think that in a lot of instances,

659
00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:25.719
they're really looking out for us, because I know for

660
00:45:25.840 --> 00:45:28.519
a fact that they are not all that's out there.

661
00:45:28.639 --> 00:45:34.440
And not even just talking about big caps, mate, I

662
00:45:34.480 --> 00:45:39.760
know this isn't specifically Bigfoot related, but they share the

663
00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:45.199
same environment. And it was the scariest thing I've ever

664
00:45:45.280 --> 00:45:47.840
seen in my life. So I don't know if you

665
00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:50.000
if you want me to go into that at all,

666
00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:51.840
this other encounter that I had.

667
00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:55.400
I would say that it is a part of your story. Well,

668
00:45:55.559 --> 00:45:57.519
so this is the way I look at it. The

669
00:45:57.559 --> 00:46:00.320
show is always one hundred percent focused on big from

670
00:46:00.360 --> 00:46:05.119
the beginning. But people's stories also have intersections with other things,

671
00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:08.920
and so in that case, I would say, definitely share

672
00:46:09.159 --> 00:46:10.519
what else you've experienced.

673
00:46:11.360 --> 00:46:15.800
Beautiful? Yeah, cool. So just on a quick tangent, I

674
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:20.000
have seen a UFO. It was tiny, It was about

675
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:22.480
eight or nine inches long, and it was on a

676
00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:26.599
beach where we were partying. I was sat on a

677
00:46:26.639 --> 00:46:29.840
log like we were in a cove, and the people

678
00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:32.679
that were setting up this beach had taken a generator

679
00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:35.000
and speakers down onto the beach. It was a really

680
00:46:35.079 --> 00:46:37.719
good affair. Whilst I was down at university down in Cornwall,

681
00:46:38.880 --> 00:46:43.599
and yeah, I was sat on this log chatting with

682
00:46:43.639 --> 00:46:45.360
a guy. He was telling me about how he was

683
00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:48.480
in university. It was just funny actually because of the

684
00:46:48.519 --> 00:46:51.719
symbol of your big Foot Society logo. He was telling

685
00:46:51.719 --> 00:46:54.360
me about how he was in university to become a journalist,

686
00:46:54.400 --> 00:46:58.119
to infiltrate the illuminati and expose them. I thought that

687
00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:03.679
was quite interesting. But I said to him, I was like, listen, bro, like,

688
00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:08.079
if you found out some information that would hurt them,

689
00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:10.840
I don't think you'd ever live long enough to bring

690
00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:14.000
it into the light, you know, I said, you're probably

691
00:47:14.079 --> 00:47:16.280
better off trying to help those in need rather than

692
00:47:16.280 --> 00:47:19.519
trying to target those in power. And sometimes I question

693
00:47:19.639 --> 00:47:23.159
whether my advice was right or not. I never heard

694
00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:25.239
from him again after that night. But this is the

695
00:47:25.639 --> 00:47:28.320
important part of that. He was sat to my left

696
00:47:29.079 --> 00:47:31.760
and over to my right was a fire, and because

697
00:47:31.800 --> 00:47:34.480
we were in this cove, the smoke from the fire

698
00:47:34.639 --> 00:47:39.320
was rising and a very still, very slow column, super

699
00:47:39.360 --> 00:47:43.840
super slow, super gentle. Right now, if you flew a

700
00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:48.679
radio controlled helicopter or a drone through that smoke column,

701
00:47:48.840 --> 00:47:51.920
the smoke would billow out in those rolling coils like

702
00:47:51.960 --> 00:47:54.159
you've seen on all the war movies when a helicopter

703
00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:57.800
flies through, you know, rising column of smoke.

704
00:47:58.280 --> 00:47:58.519
Right.

705
00:47:58.639 --> 00:48:02.920
So, anyways, the smoke is rising, super still and chatting

706
00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:05.920
with this guy, and out of the corner of my eye,

707
00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:09.760
something grabs my attention and I turned my head. And

708
00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:12.079
the guy who sat here, he didn't have to turn

709
00:48:12.079 --> 00:48:14.719
his head at all really to follow where I was looking.

710
00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:19.480
In between me and this smoke column was this thing

711
00:48:20.079 --> 00:48:24.119
I was just sat in the air, a chrome body.

712
00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:26.920
It looked to have a head and a body and

713
00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:28.920
a tail section, and it looked like there was some

714
00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:31.679
engravings on the tail section. But I really didn't see

715
00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:34.480
it for very long, because as soon as I locked

716
00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:37.840
eyes on it, it was like somebody had put a

717
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:40.840
pin through the middle of its body and it turned

718
00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:45.079
on an axis just perfectly. And then it just instantly

719
00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:49.199
took off and shot through this column of smoke, and

720
00:48:49.480 --> 00:48:53.199
there was no disturbance. I didn't blink, and it cut

721
00:48:53.320 --> 00:48:57.000
through this smoke column like a ghost knife through ghost butter.

722
00:48:57.159 --> 00:49:00.639
There was just no interaction. As soon as it disappeared,

723
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:03.119
I was immediately off the log I was sat on,

724
00:49:03.519 --> 00:49:05.559
took the two or three steps to run round to

725
00:49:05.599 --> 00:49:09.519
the other side of fire. Oh another detail. I had

726
00:49:09.519 --> 00:49:13.280
this body and it had wings, and each wing, it

727
00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:15.239
just had one wing. On each side. There was a

728
00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:18.159
rectangle and each of these rectangles was made out of

729
00:49:18.199 --> 00:49:22.559
two rows of four blue lights in squares. So there

730
00:49:22.639 --> 00:49:26.360
was eight blue lights squared out in a rectangle on

731
00:49:26.440 --> 00:49:29.320
each wing. And so when I ran around the fire,

732
00:49:29.400 --> 00:49:32.639
I was looking for these blue lights. It made no noise,

733
00:49:33.400 --> 00:49:38.280
it affected the smoke in no way, and it was gone.

734
00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:41.159
And so I turned around and I went back to

735
00:49:41.239 --> 00:49:43.480
the guy who had been looking in the direction that

736
00:49:43.519 --> 00:49:47.000
I turned, and I had the sense, thank goodness, I

737
00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:50.239
had the sense to not lead the witness. I just

738
00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:53.239
said to him, tell me what you saw, please, And

739
00:49:53.280 --> 00:49:56.480
I had like a checklist of descriptors which he could

740
00:49:56.639 --> 00:49:58.760
use to describe what I saw. And I can't remember

741
00:49:58.800 --> 00:50:00.880
exactly what he said, but as he was saying what

742
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:03.920
he saw, I was ticking off things down this list

743
00:50:03.960 --> 00:50:07.800
until there was enough tics that I knew that was

744
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:11.159
not imaginary. Like I saw. He saw the same thing

745
00:50:11.280 --> 00:50:13.679
I saw. And I turned to other people at the party,

746
00:50:13.679 --> 00:50:15.400
I was like, did you guys see that? No one

747
00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:19.079
saw nothing, just me and him. But I've never heard

748
00:50:19.079 --> 00:50:23.280
from him again. But when I saw it, my brain

749
00:50:23.320 --> 00:50:27.280
said to me, very very clearly, being watched and being

750
00:50:27.400 --> 00:50:31.519
listened to, The question is by who and why? Like

751
00:50:31.639 --> 00:50:36.239
why is an anti gravity drone on a beach in

752
00:50:36.519 --> 00:50:41.679
Cornwall listening to students talk about the Illuminati? You know why?

753
00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:46.559
But anyways, so I know there's quite a strong link

754
00:50:46.760 --> 00:50:52.800
in the community between extraterrestrial UFO activity and Bigfoot. Wouldn't

755
00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:55.840
surprise me at all if they were quite linked. I mean,

756
00:50:56.559 --> 00:50:59.679
from what Lloyd Pye says, they've been linked for eons

757
00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:07.079
and we are them plus extra. But anyways, so I

758
00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:10.079
know that there's other things about other than bigfoot and

759
00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:16.400
big cats and UFOs, because yeah, the scariest thing I

760
00:51:16.519 --> 00:51:22.440
ever saw was outside my house about three or four

761
00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:26.679
o'clock in the morning. I'm a disabled guy. I used

762
00:51:26.679 --> 00:51:29.360
to spend a lot of time up late at night,

763
00:51:30.519 --> 00:51:34.960
and I was smoking outside my front door where i'd

764
00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:37.199
lived and I'd only lived in this place for about

765
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:39.440
six months. I used to be able to open my

766
00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:42.760
curtains and I'd have horses lined up along the fence

767
00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:46.239
of this field, just munching grass. I'd call them my neighbors,

768
00:51:47.119 --> 00:51:51.519
but yeah, they're this field. And it was kind of

769
00:51:51.559 --> 00:51:54.480
cut in half, like the flat side of the field

770
00:51:54.840 --> 00:51:57.519
was one half, like right next to my house, and

771
00:51:57.559 --> 00:52:00.239
then there's this big line of trees, and then the

772
00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:02.039
line of trees was the other half of the field,

773
00:52:02.119 --> 00:52:05.079
which is kind of on a hill. And there's a

774
00:52:05.079 --> 00:52:10.000
big gap in between these trees where trucks and horses

775
00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:15.320
will go through. And this night was an incredibly clear night,

776
00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:20.639
a beautiful full moon. I was casting deep, deep shadows

777
00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:25.719
in the space under the trees in this gap, which

778
00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:29.920
is seventy eighty feet away from my front door, and

779
00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:34.079
it's really not far and I'm out there smoking. I'm

780
00:52:34.159 --> 00:52:40.000
enjoying the stars. It's beautiful, it's gorgeous, and my attention

781
00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:46.239
is locked onto that dark gap between the trees, and

782
00:52:46.320 --> 00:52:50.039
I see movement, and I expect it to be a

783
00:52:50.079 --> 00:52:54.920
badger or a deer or a fox or something small

784
00:52:55.000 --> 00:52:59.079
and regular, and that's absolutely not what I saw. What

785
00:52:59.199 --> 00:53:05.199
I saw was a humanoid down on all fours. And

786
00:53:05.239 --> 00:53:07.440
when I say down on all fours, I'm not talking

787
00:53:07.440 --> 00:53:11.119
about knees and elbows. I'm talking about hands and feet,

788
00:53:11.679 --> 00:53:15.280
but with the chest and the head inches off the

789
00:53:15.360 --> 00:53:19.159
floor like your frog crawling, you know. And if you

790
00:53:19.280 --> 00:53:22.360
just if you just get down on the floor and

791
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:24.480
put your hands, you know, sort of like a frog,

792
00:53:24.519 --> 00:53:26.639
and your feet like a frog, and your only your

793
00:53:26.639 --> 00:53:28.880
hands and your feet are on the floor, no knees,

794
00:53:28.920 --> 00:53:31.000
no elbows, and you try and hold yourself in that

795
00:53:31.079 --> 00:53:36.000
position for just a few seconds. It's difficult, right, And

796
00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:39.760
what I saw this thing do blew my mind and

797
00:53:39.880 --> 00:53:45.199
shook me to my absolute core because it crawled down

798
00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:47.880
on the floor like this, like it was sniffing the floor.

799
00:53:48.199 --> 00:53:50.480
I could see no face, there was no hair, there

800
00:53:50.519 --> 00:53:54.880
was no clothes. It had super pale, almost shiny skin,

801
00:53:55.679 --> 00:53:59.079
long arms, long legs and it's sniffing the floor what

802
00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:04.639
it looks like whilst it's crawling. And it covered about

803
00:54:04.679 --> 00:54:11.280
twenty feet in about two seconds, which there's no human

804
00:54:11.320 --> 00:54:14.599
on the planet that can move like that, at that speed,

805
00:54:14.719 --> 00:54:20.199
that low to the ground. There's just no And by

806
00:54:20.239 --> 00:54:23.920
the time I'd registered what was really going on, after

807
00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:28.800
it had covered those twenty odd feet, my mind told

808
00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:33.320
me very very clearly, don't breathe, don't make a noise.

809
00:54:33.679 --> 00:54:38.519
Get inside now, lock the door, close the curtain, grab

810
00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:41.920
your machete, and pray to God it doesn't come for you.

811
00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:46.639
And that's what I did. I got inside, I locked

812
00:54:46.639 --> 00:54:48.519
the door, closed the curtain, and went in my bedroom.

813
00:54:48.559 --> 00:54:50.239
I got a chete, I took it out of the sheaf.

814
00:54:50.280 --> 00:54:53.760
I went back into the front room and I crouched down.

815
00:54:54.840 --> 00:54:59.679
Now I understand now, that's because if it appeared at

816
00:54:59.719 --> 00:55:03.239
my door, because the moonlight is beaming, you know, if

817
00:55:03.280 --> 00:55:05.960
anything had appeared in front of the window by my door,

818
00:55:05.960 --> 00:55:07.639
I had seen it. And that's what I was waiting for.

819
00:55:07.719 --> 00:55:10.280
I was waiting for a hand to come up. I

820
00:55:10.320 --> 00:55:14.440
was waiting for anything. And I crouched down because I

821
00:55:14.639 --> 00:55:19.559
knew that if something did appear slowly or quickly, I'd

822
00:55:19.559 --> 00:55:23.280
probably fall backwards, and the closer my head was to

823
00:55:23.360 --> 00:55:26.639
the floor, the less chance of me being knocked out

824
00:55:26.719 --> 00:55:31.679
or severely injured by falling over. Not once in my

825
00:55:31.719 --> 00:55:34.599
life had I ever done that before. Not once had

826
00:55:34.639 --> 00:55:37.800
I ever experienced anything that made me crouch down low

827
00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:43.159
like that. But this did because the strength for this

828
00:55:43.320 --> 00:55:46.159
thing to move like that, and it had no face.

829
00:55:46.239 --> 00:55:48.559
That's another thing that really trips me out with how

830
00:55:48.599 --> 00:55:50.679
close it was. I should have been able to see eyes.

831
00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:52.119
I should have been able to see a mouth. I

832
00:55:52.119 --> 00:55:54.119
should have been able to see a nose. It was

833
00:55:54.199 --> 00:55:57.519
just a blank face, sniffing the dirt as it was crawling.

834
00:55:57.519 --> 00:56:00.639
And thank god it wasn't crawling straight toward towards my house,

835
00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:03.000
because I probably would have literally had a heart attack

836
00:56:03.039 --> 00:56:06.760
on the spot. It was crawling sort of in the

837
00:56:06.920 --> 00:56:09.400
relative direction of my house, but it would have taken

838
00:56:09.440 --> 00:56:11.920
it to the corner of the field, which was to

839
00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:15.920
the right of my house. Seeing that just outside your

840
00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:18.760
front door in the middle of nowhere, Like, I had

841
00:56:18.760 --> 00:56:22.039
a very few neighbors, they're very old, not the kind

842
00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:24.480
of people you can count on when you're fighting to

843
00:56:24.519 --> 00:56:26.719
your death at four o'clock in the morning, and I

844
00:56:26.760 --> 00:56:29.280
don't think it would have been much of a fight, mate, because,

845
00:56:29.639 --> 00:56:31.880
like I say, if you try and just hold yourself

846
00:56:31.920 --> 00:56:34.559
not even moving in the position this thing was in,

847
00:56:35.159 --> 00:56:37.760
it's really hard, really hard. And the fact that it

848
00:56:37.760 --> 00:56:40.599
could crawl twenty feet in less than two seconds whilst

849
00:56:40.639 --> 00:56:44.079
being in that position, the strength on that thing was demonic.

850
00:56:44.760 --> 00:56:49.000
I mean, it absolutely did not look like something made

851
00:56:49.039 --> 00:56:51.760
for the light of day. It was an absolute creature

852
00:56:51.800 --> 00:56:56.360
of darkness, which is funny considering it was like shiny white.

853
00:56:58.960 --> 00:57:05.039
But yeah, I'm walking back from work alone in the dark,

854
00:57:05.679 --> 00:57:09.239
I'm thinking about that thing, or God forbid, worse, two

855
00:57:09.440 --> 00:57:15.440
or three of those things on me around me, not far.

856
00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:19.000
I think I maybe saw another one another time, but

857
00:57:19.079 --> 00:57:22.480
that was definitely nowhere near. It was clear. It was

858
00:57:22.599 --> 00:57:25.519
just a weird white shape moving in a weird way

859
00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:30.639
over a sort of embankment. It didn't make sense for

860
00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:33.159
any animal that I knew, and I can't remember how

861
00:57:33.239 --> 00:57:37.320
that was before or after the crawler sighting. That's what

862
00:57:37.400 --> 00:57:39.719
I call it. I call it the pale crawler or

863
00:57:39.760 --> 00:57:42.039
the white crawler because it's exactly what it did. It

864
00:57:42.199 --> 00:57:47.480
crawled and I know it wasn't human. There's no there's

865
00:57:47.519 --> 00:57:49.880
no human that can move like that, and even if

866
00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:51.840
there was, why would they be out there doing that

867
00:57:51.920 --> 00:57:55.960
at that time? You know, I've seen something slightly similar

868
00:57:56.079 --> 00:58:01.519
in movies before, of like professional contortionialists, people who really

869
00:58:01.559 --> 00:58:04.840
practice and work on moving in weird ways. But even then,

870
00:58:04.920 --> 00:58:07.360
I don't think any of them could cover that distance

871
00:58:07.360 --> 00:58:10.880
in that position. The strength on it was just unreal.

872
00:58:12.079 --> 00:58:16.760
And yeah, I mean you get other reports in England

873
00:58:17.400 --> 00:58:21.119
of dog men as well. Never seen one of that,

874
00:58:21.559 --> 00:58:24.519
but wouldn't be surprised at all of it was out there.

875
00:58:24.559 --> 00:58:29.119
I mean, between the UFO, the bigfoot, and that pale

876
00:58:29.239 --> 00:58:32.880
crawler thing, I know for a fact that it's far

877
00:58:33.000 --> 00:58:36.119
more going on than we are led to believe or

878
00:58:36.480 --> 00:58:41.880
encouraged to believe. And yeah, it's only by putting yourself

879
00:58:41.920 --> 00:58:45.639
out there in these unusual places at unusual times that

880
00:58:45.679 --> 00:58:51.079
you experience unusual things. And I've been fortunate enough to

881
00:58:51.159 --> 00:58:54.679
have a weird enough life where I have been out

882
00:58:54.679 --> 00:58:57.360
in these places at these times and seeing these things.

883
00:58:58.199 --> 00:59:00.079
I don't know if I would recommend it though.

884
00:59:01.519 --> 00:59:06.800
Exactly. The tricky thing is is that sometimes when you

885
00:59:06.920 --> 00:59:11.840
have interactions with a bigfoot then that opens you up

886
00:59:11.920 --> 00:59:15.639
to all of these other things. And you know, I

887
00:59:15.679 --> 00:59:18.760
did not know that there were sightings of the pill

888
00:59:18.840 --> 00:59:24.440
crawler reported over in the UK as well. It's something

889
00:59:24.480 --> 00:59:27.280
we hear a lot about over here in the US,

890
00:59:27.559 --> 00:59:30.920
and it's all over the place and some really really

891
00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:33.480
scary stuff, which is not my focus, but I do

892
00:59:33.599 --> 00:59:35.519
hear about it every once in a while, and it's

893
00:59:35.639 --> 00:59:39.400
just some really scary stuff. Also, I wanted to comment

894
00:59:39.440 --> 00:59:43.840
on how you shared about finding the piece of holly

895
00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:48.800
that you made into a sword, and that to me

896
00:59:48.960 --> 00:59:56.079
was fascinating because I've heard variants of that story so

897
00:59:56.280 --> 01:00:01.360
many times where it's almost like they know what you

898
01:00:01.480 --> 01:00:04.199
think about and then there's a gift left for you

899
01:00:04.840 --> 01:00:07.639
that you would really appreciate it. And it is incredible

900
01:00:07.719 --> 01:00:10.360
to hear that from another country. I've never heard that

901
01:00:10.679 --> 01:00:13.840
kind of thing from outside of the US, and it's

902
01:00:13.880 --> 01:00:16.760
just very cool to think of that this type of

903
01:00:16.800 --> 01:00:20.559
thing is happening probably around the entire world. We just

904
01:00:20.599 --> 01:00:21.760
haven't heard about it yet.

905
01:00:23.280 --> 01:00:26.519
Yeah, Yeah, it's beautiful. I mean, I've heard of stones

906
01:00:26.760 --> 01:00:33.880
being gifted berries, little sort of knotted pieces of wood.

907
01:00:34.280 --> 01:00:38.599
You know. Artistic things do you do? You follow Bob

908
01:00:38.599 --> 01:00:40.199
Gimmlin's channel channel at all.

909
01:00:40.920 --> 01:00:42.679
Yes, yep, yep, yeah yeah.

910
01:00:42.800 --> 01:00:45.840
Do you remember the one where the art was made

911
01:00:45.840 --> 01:00:47.599
in the tree with the snakes and they were still

912
01:00:47.639 --> 01:00:51.880
alive and they'd been tied mm hmm, yeah, yeah. I mean,

913
01:00:51.920 --> 01:00:57.400
that's yeah, that takes some serious doing. I that's that's

914
01:00:58.199 --> 01:01:01.960
not I don't know if that was an artistic gift

915
01:01:02.159 --> 01:01:05.000
left for that individual or if it was just a

916
01:01:05.039 --> 01:01:09.360
sign that was made. And it really is hard to tell,

917
01:01:09.440 --> 01:01:12.360
but yeah, I mean it really felt to me like

918
01:01:13.280 --> 01:01:16.760
that sword was put there for me to pick up

919
01:01:16.800 --> 01:01:19.960
and carry off and while down and use and keep

920
01:01:20.079 --> 01:01:23.360
and cherish and love. You know, it's one of my

921
01:01:23.400 --> 01:01:27.239
most prized possessions. And it's to anyone else, it's just

922
01:01:27.239 --> 01:01:31.800
a stick, But to me, it's a gift from the

923
01:01:31.800 --> 01:01:32.719
gods of the forest.

924
01:01:32.960 --> 01:01:40.079
You know, absolutely. Do you still go out just to

925
01:01:40.199 --> 01:01:43.719
try to have interactions like you did when you were

926
01:01:43.719 --> 01:01:46.079
on the camping trip with your friend or.

927
01:01:46.880 --> 01:01:49.320
Well, I mean when I was camping with my friend,

928
01:01:49.360 --> 01:01:54.159
there was no intention doing anything other than just camping

929
01:01:55.039 --> 01:01:57.400
that they weren't even in my mind. We weren't talking

930
01:01:57.400 --> 01:01:59.920
about them, I wasn't thinking about them, And I think

931
01:02:00.159 --> 01:02:03.760
maybe that's why they appeared. Well, I say it appeared.

932
01:02:03.760 --> 01:02:07.880
I didn't see nothing, but I heard they spoke volumes

933
01:02:08.519 --> 01:02:12.559
in those bangs. I needed no encore, you know, the

934
01:02:12.760 --> 01:02:17.039
power conveyed in those sounds. Like I said, I don't

935
01:02:17.079 --> 01:02:21.719
think that any tree actually got hit because it just

936
01:02:21.760 --> 01:02:23.800
doesn't make sense to me. There's there's there's no piece

937
01:02:23.840 --> 01:02:26.239
of wood that could tolerate that and stay in one piece.

938
01:02:26.320 --> 01:02:28.920
There's just no way but a voice. A voice could

939
01:02:28.960 --> 01:02:31.320
do that all day, you know, especially their voice, and

940
01:02:31.360 --> 01:02:36.079
they could throw it. But yeah, I mean, it's just

941
01:02:37.119 --> 01:02:39.960
so many questions, and it's like every answer you get

942
01:02:40.079 --> 01:02:43.199
just brings more questions.

943
01:02:44.119 --> 01:02:48.400
No, absolutely, And I think that people are starting to

944
01:02:48.440 --> 01:02:52.320
become more open to things such as telepathy. I mean

945
01:02:53.360 --> 01:02:57.199
you've probably heard you may have even listened to it yourself.

946
01:02:57.199 --> 01:02:58.880
I mean, I know a lot of listeners have been

947
01:02:58.920 --> 01:03:04.400
listening to the The Tapes podcast that's pretty much proving

948
01:03:04.440 --> 01:03:09.360
that telepathy is real through scientific methods, which is incredible.

949
01:03:09.599 --> 01:03:14.000
And I think as things like that start to come

950
01:03:14.000 --> 01:03:19.039
out more and more, the people that were you know,

951
01:03:19.119 --> 01:03:22.280
laughing at the idea of mind speak back in the day,

952
01:03:23.199 --> 01:03:26.719
maybe switching the way that they think about things.

953
01:03:26.920 --> 01:03:30.119
You know, Yeah, it really should, it really should. I mean,

954
01:03:30.159 --> 01:03:37.360
we discount possibilities based off of zero evidence just because

955
01:03:38.039 --> 01:03:40.159
it doesn't make sense so it doesn't add up, or

956
01:03:40.159 --> 01:03:43.760
we haven't read it in a textbook. But like life

957
01:03:44.199 --> 01:03:47.679
isn't boundaried by what's written in a textbook and what's

958
01:03:47.719 --> 01:03:53.159
agreed upon in university staff rooms. You know, life, that

959
01:03:53.360 --> 01:03:56.360
is what it wants, regardless of whether we understand it

960
01:03:56.480 --> 01:04:01.480
or not. And part of our journey is to understand

961
01:04:01.639 --> 01:04:04.800
these things as we come across them and try and

962
01:04:04.880 --> 01:04:08.559
learn more. But like I said, I mean, every for

963
01:04:08.639 --> 01:04:13.599
every answer that you get, it brings dozens more questions.

964
01:04:14.639 --> 01:04:20.599
I would love to speak with them mine speak wise,

965
01:04:20.880 --> 01:04:24.000
but at the same time, I don't know how i'd

966
01:04:24.039 --> 01:04:25.760
actually handle it. I mean, I go out in the

967
01:04:25.800 --> 01:04:28.760
woods on my own during the day, and I go

968
01:04:28.800 --> 01:04:33.000
off the trail, and I go and visit places which

969
01:04:33.159 --> 01:04:37.559
feel like have good energy to me, places that could

970
01:04:37.599 --> 01:04:41.480
potentially be almost like there's one spot that I found

971
01:04:41.519 --> 01:04:45.159
in the woods near to a sheep skull, which is

972
01:04:45.320 --> 01:04:48.920
way off the trail, and the sheep skull is placed

973
01:04:49.239 --> 01:04:51.639
in a circle of moss on the edge of a swamp,

974
01:04:51.639 --> 01:04:57.039
and it feels very witchy, it feels very ritually and

975
01:04:57.119 --> 01:05:00.000
near to that spot, there's a section of tree where

976
01:05:00.199 --> 01:05:03.519
the tree is sort of bent over and it almost

977
01:05:03.599 --> 01:05:06.159
feels like, you know, the thing that you set out

978
01:05:06.199 --> 01:05:08.800
for a toddler where it's got that arch and then

979
01:05:08.880 --> 01:05:10.880
things hang from the arch and they play with it.

980
01:05:10.920 --> 01:05:13.679
On the map. It totally feels like that. It feels

981
01:05:13.719 --> 01:05:18.480
like a crash. It feels like a play spot for

982
01:05:18.719 --> 01:05:23.920
young ones. And I always had that energy, and yeah,

983
01:05:23.920 --> 01:05:27.079
I love being around places like that. And I know

984
01:05:27.280 --> 01:05:29.280
that every time I go into the woods on my own,

985
01:05:30.199 --> 01:05:33.519
there is a small chance that I could fall into

986
01:05:33.559 --> 01:05:37.039
an undiscovered coal mine and break my legs and never

987
01:05:37.079 --> 01:05:41.880
be seen again, or get whisked away off into the stars,

988
01:05:42.320 --> 01:05:47.440
or just have lights out for whatever reason. Doesn't stop

989
01:05:47.480 --> 01:05:49.239
me from going. I mean, like I said, don't go

990
01:05:49.320 --> 01:05:54.000
in there in the nighttime because they are nocturnal, you know,

991
01:05:55.039 --> 01:05:57.960
out there at that time. That's their space. That's not

992
01:05:58.000 --> 01:06:02.599
for us to be in. And I respect that, you know.

993
01:06:03.039 --> 01:06:08.840
I don't want to be trooping through their front garden disrespecting,

994
01:06:09.199 --> 01:06:12.000
you know. And there's another reason why I want to

995
01:06:12.079 --> 01:06:15.440
keep this location quiet, because I don't want loads of

996
01:06:15.519 --> 01:06:19.760
people in here trashing the place looking for something that

997
01:06:20.239 --> 01:06:23.519
they probably shouldn't be finding, you know. I mean, I

998
01:06:23.519 --> 01:06:26.519
would recommend for people to open their minds and put

999
01:06:26.519 --> 01:06:31.519
themselves out in the world at unusual spaces. But at

1000
01:06:31.559 --> 01:06:34.719
the same time, it's like, I have a pretty strong mind,

1001
01:06:35.679 --> 01:06:40.000
I've thought through a lot, I'm pretty tough, and the

1002
01:06:40.039 --> 01:06:43.960
stuff that I've seen does keep me up at night sometimes,

1003
01:06:44.199 --> 01:06:50.559
and so I don't know how people who maybe aren't

1004
01:06:50.599 --> 01:06:55.800
the strong would handle it, whether it would just stop

1005
01:06:55.840 --> 01:06:58.239
them from going outside at all, you know, which would

1006
01:06:58.280 --> 01:07:02.639
be a great shame. The woods are amazing, they're really healing,

1007
01:07:04.280 --> 01:07:09.039
the beautiful energy and the wildness, and it's definitely something

1008
01:07:09.039 --> 01:07:11.679
that we need to stay in touch with. And at

1009
01:07:11.679 --> 01:07:14.000
the same time, we need to respect that it's not

1010
01:07:14.159 --> 01:07:17.280
our home like it used to be, but it isn't anymore,

1011
01:07:17.960 --> 01:07:23.079
and you know, it's wise to give all wild animals

1012
01:07:23.239 --> 01:07:29.280
their space, especially when they're potentially more intelligent than you are,

1013
01:07:29.760 --> 01:07:33.239
you know. I mean, we think we're so great with

1014
01:07:33.320 --> 01:07:36.639
our rockets and our cars and our Wi Fi, but

1015
01:07:37.400 --> 01:07:44.000
in terms of raw survivability and capability in the wild,

1016
01:07:44.559 --> 01:07:49.400
just innate of themselves, no tools needed, They're far more

1017
01:07:49.440 --> 01:07:52.679
capable than any of us. They can go further, they

1018
01:07:52.760 --> 01:07:56.840
can hit harder, they can last longer, and they are

1019
01:07:56.960 --> 01:08:05.320
just incredible. And I've heard stories in North American tribe

1020
01:08:05.400 --> 01:08:10.159
law of times when people and sasquatches would get together

1021
01:08:10.519 --> 01:08:14.239
and dance together, and make music together, and even play

1022
01:08:14.239 --> 01:08:19.359
fight together. I heard of one very unfortunate incident where

1023
01:08:19.560 --> 01:08:23.239
a man died in these play fights, as it were,

1024
01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:28.479
and they weren't seen again. They didn't come back and

1025
01:08:28.520 --> 01:08:32.239
do another party because obviously they didn't want to risk

1026
01:08:32.520 --> 01:08:39.439
any kind of injury to the fragile little humans. Well,

1027
01:08:39.479 --> 01:08:44.279
a dream of mine is to essentially create a kind

1028
01:08:44.319 --> 01:08:48.520
of armor that would enable me to play fight with

1029
01:08:48.880 --> 01:08:53.319
like gorillas orangatangs bears. I don't think I could build

1030
01:08:53.319 --> 01:08:55.439
anything that would stand up to a fully grown salt

1031
01:08:55.439 --> 01:08:59.680
water crocodile, because they're literal dinosaurs, and by the same token,

1032
01:08:59.760 --> 01:09:01.720
I don't know if any kind of a man made

1033
01:09:01.760 --> 01:09:04.960
material could stand up to the strength of a fully

1034
01:09:05.000 --> 01:09:12.159
grown sarsquatch. I don't think their strength is calculatable, if

1035
01:09:12.199 --> 01:09:14.720
that makes sense. I mean, scientists have tried to find

1036
01:09:14.760 --> 01:09:17.640
out how strong a gorilla is, how strong a bear is,

1037
01:09:18.560 --> 01:09:23.039
and I've heard different findings that essentially come back and say,

1038
01:09:23.159 --> 01:09:26.359
we can't say how strong they are, our equipment can't

1039
01:09:26.399 --> 01:09:30.399
measure it. And yeah, I think these things will be

1040
01:09:30.439 --> 01:09:34.920
even stronger. There's a little sort of question going around

1041
01:09:34.920 --> 01:09:36.760
the internet at the moment. Who would win one hundred

1042
01:09:36.760 --> 01:09:40.239
men or one gorilla? Right, no doubt that. There's no

1043
01:09:40.359 --> 01:09:42.600
way a hundred men could take down a gorilla, Just

1044
01:09:42.600 --> 01:09:46.840
no way. And not even a small chimp could a

1045
01:09:46.960 --> 01:09:51.039
hundred men take down, because they're just built different. Their

1046
01:09:51.079 --> 01:09:53.760
bones are different, their muscles are different. They haven't been

1047
01:09:53.800 --> 01:09:58.119
weakened like we have. They go through us like tissue paper,

1048
01:09:58.439 --> 01:10:02.720
you know. And yeah, I don't think even a thousand

1049
01:10:02.760 --> 01:10:07.560
men could take down one fully grown sasquatch in a

1050
01:10:07.600 --> 01:10:10.159
hand to hand fight. We would just be dry leaves

1051
01:10:10.199 --> 01:10:14.640
to that thing. I don't know how much you've looked

1052
01:10:14.640 --> 01:10:20.720
into dreams and their connection to reality and stuff like that.

1053
01:10:20.960 --> 01:10:23.920
I do know that it's very often reported that after

1054
01:10:24.199 --> 01:10:28.520
encounters there will be extremely vivid dreams that will happen

1055
01:10:29.359 --> 01:10:32.960
or like at least a week, two week and a half.

1056
01:10:33.039 --> 01:10:36.560
Yeah, right, Well, I didn't have any of that after

1057
01:10:36.600 --> 01:10:41.119
the encounter, but not long ago. Actually, I had a

1058
01:10:41.199 --> 01:10:47.920
dream where I saw them fully head to toe. It

1059
01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:49.520
was one of those dreams where it feels like you're

1060
01:10:49.560 --> 01:10:54.279
in it for days, and I can remember it was

1061
01:10:54.279 --> 01:10:56.640
almost like it felt like a far cry dream, you know.

1062
01:10:56.680 --> 01:11:00.560
It was lots of running, lots of hiding. At one

1063
01:11:00.560 --> 01:11:03.640
point I was in seawater up to my chest as

1064
01:11:03.680 --> 01:11:07.079
I was crambling along rocks on a coastline trying to

1065
01:11:07.119 --> 01:11:11.680
sort of escape and evade. There is huge trees around.

1066
01:11:11.720 --> 01:11:14.039
They were like two hundred and fifty three hundred feet tall,

1067
01:11:14.119 --> 01:11:18.239
absolutely massive, and there was a real old train line

1068
01:11:18.720 --> 01:11:22.159
that led to a very old train station where it

1069
01:11:22.199 --> 01:11:25.520
was again just made out of huge trees, huge bits

1070
01:11:25.560 --> 01:11:27.960
of wood. And next to this old train station was

1071
01:11:28.000 --> 01:11:31.600
a real old house, big old house. And so in

1072
01:11:31.640 --> 01:11:36.640
this dream, running around, and at one point I look

1073
01:11:36.720 --> 01:11:40.279
up to one of the top of these absolutely gigantic trees,

1074
01:11:40.760 --> 01:11:45.319
and I see a full eight nine foot maybe ten

1075
01:11:46.279 --> 01:11:48.479
right at the top of this tree, and he jumps

1076
01:11:48.520 --> 01:11:50.560
out of the tree and he drops like a pencil,

1077
01:11:50.960 --> 01:11:53.520
legs down straight, arms down by his side, and I

1078
01:11:53.560 --> 01:11:57.039
see him disappear into the foliage and I hear him

1079
01:11:57.159 --> 01:12:02.239
land just this all mighty third and then immediately after

1080
01:12:02.439 --> 01:12:08.279
that massive third smaller, So this thing dropped three hundred

1081
01:12:08.279 --> 01:12:11.039
feet out of a tree like a pencil and just

1082
01:12:11.359 --> 01:12:16.279
ran it off like it was nothing. And then the

1083
01:12:16.359 --> 01:12:19.279
last part of the dream that I remember was having

1084
01:12:19.640 --> 01:12:22.680
I think it was a car headlight between me and it,

1085
01:12:23.279 --> 01:12:26.079
and it was behind it with the headlights, and it

1086
01:12:26.159 --> 01:12:29.520
was running straight at me, and all of its hair

1087
01:12:29.720 --> 01:12:32.560
from its head on its arms, so that's back, that's

1088
01:12:32.640 --> 01:12:34.720
legs was all lit up and I could just see

1089
01:12:34.760 --> 01:12:41.600
this thing steam rolling towards me, and yeah, it was

1090
01:12:43.800 --> 01:12:47.039
It was incredible. Even though it was just a dream,

1091
01:12:47.119 --> 01:12:50.479
it was completely real when I was in it and

1092
01:12:51.520 --> 01:12:55.680
seeing I've seen the bottom end of the leg I've

1093
01:12:55.680 --> 01:12:59.560
seen an eye. I've never seen it head to toe,

1094
01:12:59.720 --> 01:13:02.880
you know, except for in videos where people have caught

1095
01:13:03.079 --> 01:13:07.119
certain things. But yeah, to have this thing barreling down

1096
01:13:07.159 --> 01:13:16.640
on you was indescribable. Really that the power of it

1097
01:13:16.680 --> 01:13:19.720
was unreal. And yeah, I don't know what happened after,

1098
01:13:19.880 --> 01:13:22.479
but I remember waking up and thinking, Wow, you know,

1099
01:13:22.600 --> 01:13:27.960
that was that was really something to experience. I kind

1100
01:13:27.960 --> 01:13:32.000
of hope that I never experienced that in real life, right,

1101
01:13:32.960 --> 01:13:36.680
but yeah, it was just the power of it was incredible,

1102
01:13:37.279 --> 01:13:41.359
and the strength of it. I mean, I wouldn't be

1103
01:13:41.359 --> 01:13:44.439
surprised at all if in reality they could drop three

1104
01:13:44.520 --> 01:13:46.760
hundred feet like that and just run it off like

1105
01:13:46.840 --> 01:13:50.319
it's nothing. And you see videos of the mountain lions

1106
01:13:50.880 --> 01:13:54.000
grabbing hold of a or like snow leopard grabbing hold

1107
01:13:54.039 --> 01:13:57.479
of ibex up the mountain, and they'll fall like half

1108
01:13:57.479 --> 01:13:59.760
a mile down the mountain, and then they still just

1109
01:13:59.800 --> 01:14:01.920
get up and carry the eyebex off in their mouth.

1110
01:14:03.680 --> 01:14:07.039
I think that these things would be way tougher than them,

1111
01:14:07.479 --> 01:14:12.920
way tougher, so much more solid and durable. And I

1112
01:14:12.960 --> 01:14:17.960
think we have barely even begun to scratch the surface

1113
01:14:18.079 --> 01:14:23.680
of what these beings are capable of. And I hope

1114
01:14:23.720 --> 01:14:27.279
that in time we will learn more and we will

1115
01:14:27.359 --> 01:14:35.560
understand more and become more connected to these other beings

1116
01:14:35.680 --> 01:14:40.000
who live on this planet with us, and in many

1117
01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:45.479
ways I feel are us. You know, it'd be great

1118
01:14:45.520 --> 01:14:48.319
to see the divide get closed a bit.

1119
01:14:49.920 --> 01:14:56.000
Okay, just a fascinating conversation, as I said before, but

1120
01:14:56.159 --> 01:14:59.119
I mean it even more now. Your journey has been

1121
01:15:00.159 --> 01:15:05.319
a incredible one where there's been much much learning along

1122
01:15:05.359 --> 01:15:07.920
the way. I just want to say thank you for

1123
01:15:08.520 --> 01:15:11.319
taking some time out of your night to share what

1124
01:15:11.359 --> 01:15:14.119
you've experienced. There's a lot to take away from this.

1125
01:15:14.279 --> 01:15:17.720
I think people could even listen to it more than

1126
01:15:17.720 --> 01:15:24.000
one time with no problem. But I would say, please

1127
01:15:24.079 --> 01:15:27.680
keep in touch with us if you continue to experience

1128
01:15:27.720 --> 01:15:30.239
things as you go along. We would love to hear

1129
01:15:30.520 --> 01:15:34.279
you know what where your path takes you next. But

1130
01:15:35.600 --> 01:15:38.119
I just want to make sure. Also, something I ask

1131
01:15:38.159 --> 01:15:42.239
at the very end is sometimes that you were able

1132
01:15:42.279 --> 01:15:44.800
to share everything that you had wanted to share on

1133
01:15:44.840 --> 01:15:45.520
the show today.

1134
01:15:47.800 --> 01:15:49.800
I think so. Yeah. Yeah, there was a couple of

1135
01:15:49.800 --> 01:15:52.119
other little things, but I think we got the main

1136
01:15:52.159 --> 01:15:53.000
points covered.

1137
01:15:53.079 --> 01:15:58.640
Yeah, fantastic. Well, I appreciate you coming on, k and

1138
01:15:59.479 --> 01:16:01.199
thank you so much much for sharing your time with

1139
01:16:01.279 --> 01:16:01.760
us tonight.

1140
01:16:02.479 --> 01:16:04.359
Thank you for having me. It's been a genuine pleasure.

1141
01:16:04.439 --> 01:16:06.239
Look forward to speaking with you again in the future.

1142
01:16:07.600 --> 01:16:09.159
Just wanted to take a minute to say thank you

1143
01:16:09.199 --> 01:16:11.960
for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast.

1144
01:16:12.119 --> 01:16:14.239
Case story is a fascinating one, not just for what

1145
01:16:14.359 --> 01:16:16.920
he saw on the dark road, but for the many

1146
01:16:17.000 --> 01:16:19.359
questions it raises about the things we can't see but

1147
01:16:19.520 --> 01:16:22.279
yet are so close. Huge thanks to Kate for sharing

1148
01:16:22.279 --> 01:16:24.800
his unique journey and for reminding us that sometimes the

1149
01:16:24.880 --> 01:16:27.359
unexplained is just waiting to find you when you least

1150
01:16:27.359 --> 01:16:31.199
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1151
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1152
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1153
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1154
01:16:38.720 --> 01:16:41.199
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1155
01:16:41.199 --> 01:16:43.119
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1156
01:16:43.159 --> 01:16:45.680
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1157
01:16:45.760 --> 01:16:47.800
us now. If you or someone you know has had

1158
01:16:47.840 --> 01:16:50.560
a Bigfoot encounter, especially in the United Kingdom or anywhere

1159
01:16:50.600 --> 01:16:54.239
near forest, rural roads or swampy areas, I'd love to

1160
01:16:54.239 --> 01:16:56.239
hear from you, so shoot me an email at Bigfo

1161
01:16:56.279 --> 01:17:00.720
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1167
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1168
01:17:20.520 --> 01:17:23.239
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1169
01:17:23.279 --> 01:17:25.359
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1170
01:17:25.399 --> 01:17:26.199
in the woods.