Sabine River Sasquatch Encounter of Texas

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Welcome to the Bigfoot Society. In
this episode, listener John shares publicly for

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the first time in forty years about
his Bigfoot experience that he had in the

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Sabine River area of Dbast, Texas. You've experienced something similar to what John

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has, or have more information regarding
Bigfoot or other cryptids in the same areas,

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please reach out immediately to me after
this episode. Remember, your encounter

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could be the key to unlocking this
mystery once and for all, so please

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don't hesitate to contact me at Bigfoot
Society at gmail dot com. All right,

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big for Society. I've got the
privilege of talking to John. He's

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a listener from down in Texas.
He's had some interesting things happened that he

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did want to share. So John, hope everything's going well. I'm going

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to go ahead and hand it on
over to you, sir, Yes,

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sir Jeremi. So it's good talking
to you this evening. I've read some

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of your podcasts and listened to him, so I wanted to share my story

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of something that I've never experienced before, of course. So basically I grew

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up in northeast Texas, a little
town called Henderson is where we first lived

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when I was six seven years old, I guess, and it was we

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lived well in the country. At
our closest neighbor was probably three miles from

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where we lived, and we had
a property that was on about forty acres.

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So I would hunt and fish.
I mean, I was always outdoors.

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Got three sisters, so it was
just me and my dad would come

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along sometimes lost the time he was
working there. You know, he did

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pipeline, so he was gone a
lot. So I spent a lot of

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times in time in the woods.
And it's pretty thick woods up there in

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northeast Texas, and you got a
lot of pine and oak and a cedar

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of course, and stuff like that. But I square hundred deer hundred.

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Nothing really out of the ordinary really
happened all those years I've spent out in

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the woods, and so I guess
when I was probably twelve, maybe thirteen,

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we moved to what I would call
deep East Texas, which is Newton

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Jack area. It's if you look
at a map, it's where Texas if

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you're not familiar with Texas, where
Texas kind of jets out a little bit

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into Louisiana right along the Sabine River. You've got the Angelina and the Sabine

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River right there, Lake for Sam
Ravern and Talda Ben to the north of

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that area. Closest thing I would
call to a rainforest. It's got its

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own micro environment down there. It
rains in the summer almost every day.

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It's really thick woods when you get
down in that part of Texas. When

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we first moved there, I would
take a can of spray paint and I

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would mark the trees. When I
was going into the woods, I wouldn't

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get turned around. It was literally, you know, that thick where you

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just there was some spots you probably
couldn't even see fifty feet in front of

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you. And so I would wear
my dad's welding shirts and some thick jeans.

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I'd have my mom. There used
to be patches that you'd get for

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your knees, and i'd have my
mom put those patches on my jeans so

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when I walked through the stuff,
I wouldn't get tore up by all the

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the thorns and bushes and all that
stuff going through there. It was really

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thick stuff. But I was a
kid, and every day after school I'd

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got there and i'd be after the
square hunting with duck hunting in the wintertime,

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the DUTs would fly through there,
and the wood ducks and stuff,

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and the hunting acres and stuff like
that. So I spent a lot of

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time in the woods. And one
of my sisters had met this guy and

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they started dating, and so I
got to know him, and his name's

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Mark and so, and they're still
together now. But you know, at

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the time, he was probably seventeen
eighteen years old, I said, I

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guess I was maybe twelve thirteen.
This was around eighty two eighty three,

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I think. And Mark had this
old Ford truck and his pride and joy

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and put a lot of money into
it, and single cab, little old

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truck, and I had put some
brand new Pioneer speakers in there with an

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AMP and just a typical high school
kid. I think I was in middle

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school at the time. So he
was always messing with me a little bit,

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I guess, because I was a
little brother and I was a younger

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ball, and plus I was his
girlfriends his little brother, So he take

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me out and would test me and
we'd go hunt and leave me out there

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to find my way back, and
that sort of Thing's a little prank and

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so just fun. It's been fun. So one weekend, my sister had

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decided she was going to go to
a party with some of her friends,

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and so Mark was like, uh, yeah, hey man, you want

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to go play some video games or
something like that. So I met him

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over by his house and we were
going to stay at his house that night.

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So we took off and the first
thing he did is w's a little

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convenience store. And he was going
these back roads and he wanted to stop

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the main roads. So we started
off on what was a tar road and

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then it turned into a dirt road, and then he made her a ride

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into what was a old logging road. So I recognize you, and I

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was familiar with logging roads, and
of course, growing up in East,

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taxes and get pretty common. So
we were driving on this old logging road

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and go pretty loads. You could
tell it had been there a while.

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Well, saplings were already starting to
grow up in the middle of the road,

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and so we were taking it easy
getting back up in there. So

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we got back there and he's got
the high beams on and he cranks up

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his new stereo and you really couldn't
hear yourself think almost over over the top

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of the thing. He's got van
hale and blasting. So we get back

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in this the end of this logging
road, and people that are not familiar

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with logging roads, most of them
are half a mile to three quarter a

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mile long, and typically one side'll
be logged out and the other side'll be

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pretty thit and so you can see
pretty good ways back in there. There's

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a lot of new growth and stuff. And then towards the end of it,

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they got a turnaround for the trucks. I guess where they loaded them

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back in the day and they would
have a place to turn around and get

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back out. So anyway stopped right
before. That's the area where the turnaround

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wasn't It's just a big open area, and on my side it was pretty

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thick wood still, and on his
side cleared out. People that have never

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been to East Texas or a place
that's really away from the sea, you

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don't realize how dark it is out
there until you really get out there in

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it when the moon's not out.
If you get out in the woods,

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you can't see your hand in front
of the face. It's just that dark

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where there's no light pollution at all
in the stars. It's just amazing how

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dark it can get out there.
I never really realized it until I went

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back. I lived in the city
for a while and went back there,

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and it's just incredible. So we're
sitting back there and just shooting the breeze,

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talking about girls and video games and
fishing and hunting stuff. Like I

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said, here's a prankster. So
he cut the music off real quick,

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and I'm still singing and he's laughing
about it. We're both laughing about it,

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and he cranks it back up,
and so we're just sitting there hanging

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out and listening to music, and
we hear something over the radio and muffled

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that. I couldn't tell what it
was. It sounded like somebody's screaming,

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and so he turned the radio down
and we were both looking at each other

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and not saying anything, and about
that time, it was something like you

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would hear out of a horror movie. It was a lot of screaming,

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you know. At that time,
those slasher movies were coming out, And

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that's how I referred to this,
a woman screaming or torn apart, however

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you want to say it. Man, We heard just just a loud scream

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beside his truck, and about that
time something hit the truck or hit it,

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or I don't know exactly how to
describe it, our throats through something

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at it. The whole truck just
shuddered, literally like somebody had dropped a

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fifty pounds log from twenty feet up
into the bed of the truck, as

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what it felt like, and there
was. It went from just us wondering

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what was going on to its sheer
panic and none of them in seconds.

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So he put it in reverse and
we're haulm out of there in reverse,

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which trying to navigate down this little
logging road and reverse, and we finally

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hit the road and he's, I
mean, he's fishtailing out. I can

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tell he's he's freaked out. I'm
freaked out, and we're not saying anything.

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We're just trying to get back to
his house. So we hit the

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tall road, finally get back to
his house. He jumps out of his

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truck man runs into his house.
Before I can get around his truck.

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He's in the house and lock the
door, and so I run up on

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his porch and I'm trying to get
in. I go to one of his

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windows and his windows were unlocked,
and so I was able to open the

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window and crawl through the window.
He wouldn't come to the door. And

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so that was back in the day
when people actually did leave their doors and

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windows unlocked. And we before we'd
go fish or hunh. We could put

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all of our stuff in the boat
and I don't have to worry about it.

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So that was early eighties. And
so anyway, all the commotion,

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I guess loc his dad up,
and his dad came in there, and

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we're both just free, not knowing
what to say. Man, this was

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just like something almost traumatizing would be
word for it. So his dad comes

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in there and what was going on? What happened? He finally calmed down

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enough and he started telling his dad
about what happened. And his dad had

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told us this story and that night. Later that night he told us a

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story that he had seen something.
That they had some pastors behind their house.

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They had a few, had a
cattle and that sort of thing.

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He had seen something behind his house
one morning, early in the morning,

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he said he saw something stocking some
deer back there, and he said he

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went to get his rifle to just
look through the scope and get a better

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look at what it was, and
before he could come back, the thing

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was gone. And so he said, man, you guys, that was

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probably a bigfoot. And I've heard
a bigfoot when I was a kid.

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We used to go up put to
those arcs around that area, and I

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guess bigfoot's kind of a bigger deal
up there. I knew about bigfoot.

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I've never heard any vocalizations of course, or anything like that, so I

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really didn't expect. I didn't know
what to expect. So he said,

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men, I'd seen something out there
a few years ago. I don't think

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he ever told Mark about it.
We stayed up the whole night, we

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didn't sleep, and we came out
the next morning and went out to Mark's

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truck and they had a big dent
in the side of it, right behind

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the passenger on the driver's side.
When Mark was said, there was a

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big dent in the back of his
truck. And I don't know, something

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through something at his truck and hit
the truck and made the dent, or

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something actually hit the truck with his
fist. I don't know how it got

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there. I just know that I'm
assuming that's what caused the truck to shutter.

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That's his baby, I guess you'd
say. And I took really care

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of it, so I knew what
the didn't wasn't there before we went out

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to the woods. So yeah,
it was just one of those things that

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you had never experienced before. And
I didn't see anything. I never saw

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what caused it. He didn't want
to really talk about it. He's one

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of those guys. I guess some
people are open to telling a story,

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and it's just the first time I've
really told it public forum in my life.

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So it just happened over forty years
ago. So but you know,

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I told my wife and stuff about
it through the years. I've asked Mark

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when he's basically just says, yeah, I remember that happened, and it's

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scared the shit out of me.
But other than that, he really didn't

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want to talk about it. So, yeah, this is really the first

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time I've shared that story. It
was just something that's never happened since it

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did keep me out of the woods
when I was the next couple of years,

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I would go into the woods,
but I wouldn't really. I was

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subconsciously, I guess, just didn't
want to get in that thick stuff like

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I did care free in the past. I was still go out there and

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squirrel hunts, but I was scared
to go out there. I had friends

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that would go out and coon hunt
at night, and they would run dogs

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and chase the coons and all that
stuff, and I just I didn't want

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to get out there at night again, even though I didn't really see anything,

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just hearing that. It took me
a couple two or three years to

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get back into the woods and mean
to actually go back out there and a

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coon hunt and deer hunt and that
sort of thing back in that thick stuff

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and never saw anything or heard anything
again that that was like that night.

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So of course, years later I
got married and I would tell my wife

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about it if I was hey.
This one time, me and Mark went

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back there in the woods over and
where you used to live in East Texas,

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and we heard something, and I
think, I guess she believed me.

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I was just one of those deals
we believe or you don't. And

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we were sitting there watching TV one
night, and I've always been fascinated by

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UFOs and ever since then kind of
bigfoot stuff, and so we were listening

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with one night, I just want
bigfoot Hunters or one of those shows like

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that. It was in that same
general area deep East Texas, right around

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the Sabine River. Were talking to
a lady that said that she had big

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foots around her house, and so
we were watching it and I described for

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my wife what it sounded like,
and so she said, do well,

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She told these guys, I've recorded
some vocalizations of what this bigfoot sounded like.

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I'd heard in other shows, the
whoops and the howls, but I

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had never heard the same screen,
never that same intensity, I guess.

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But when she played the recording,
the hair literally stood up on my arms

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in the back of my neck.
I looked at my wife and I said,

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that's what we heard. Just everything
came back that night when it was

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got kind of emotional body. It
was just like, okay, well,

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that kind of confirmed it for me. We had heard a big foot back

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there and back this logging road in
the middle of nowhere, and this lady

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apparently had heard the same thing and
recorded it and that sort of thing.

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So, like I said, it's
been forty years I've been back there and

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never anything has never happened like that
again. But that's what happened on a

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winter's night and back in nineteen eighty
three, that's wild. Do you know

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what else happened in a winter's night
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I was born all right. Anyway, now you're making me feel oh

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so yeah, that area that you
experienced that, there's a lot of Bigfoot

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things that happen in that area of
East Texas. There's a really good book

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you can pick up called, I
believe it's just called Texas Bigfoot's by Lyle

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Blackburn, and it does go into
detail about Bigfoot in that area, I

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believe. But there was a part
where you were talking about how the scream

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you heard was really loud. You
describe in any way like how loud it?

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It seems like it was like you
felt it in your chest. I

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don't know, it was like being
in a movie theater, but three four

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or five times as loud as luck
as that's when the slashery movie started coming

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out, I guess Friday the thirteenth
and those sort of things, and so

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you would hear that audibly, but
you didn't feel it physically. And this

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was like if it's I would guess
maybe the thing was standing beside his window

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and just let out of Yeah,
it could have been. Like I said,

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we never saw it. I don't
know exactly where it came from.

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It felt like it came from his
side of the truck, and that's where

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the mark on the truck was,
or the den in the truck was on

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his side. So it was not
only something you hear audibly, but you

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could feel it in your chest.
Just the repercussion of it from the just

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the intensity of it was something I've
never heard before since. So, like

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I said, the best way I
could describe it is I thought that when

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I first heard it, it was
like, is he playing a prank on

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me? Out here? I see
you have one of his friends out here

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screaming, But it just it didn't
make sense. And then to have the

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big dent in the strict I know
he wouldn't have gone to that extreme to

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try to scare me, to put
a dent inside of his truck. So

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after I've told the story, people
said, you just heard a black panther

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or something like that in the woods, And to just all the I guess

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explanations that people gave just didn't make
sense to me, because why one,

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if you're going through the woods,
if you have the radio on the high

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beams on the truck. You're making
a bunch of noise coming back through this

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on this logging road. You're going
to scare everything off. It's within a

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mile and a half of that area. You know, this thing had no

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truck of the noise were I'm making
just like like I said, it was

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something that we just heard over the
Like I said, when we were talking

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back, we couldn't talk back and
forth overready. You had to yell back

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and forth to hear yourself even or
try to hear him over the radio.

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And this thing was audible over the
noise inside the cabin of the truck,

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could hear it from outside, And
then like once he cut that radio off,

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it was it was just an overwhelming
loud screen. You said that when

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you heard the scream it felt like
you could feel in your chest. Did

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it affect you emotionally in any way
that you remember thinking about it? Not

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so much at the time of that
night. Yes, But like I said,

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I didn't I couldn't explain what it
was, and we never saw it,

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so I just knew that it was
something that wasn't normal. I'd spent

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hundreds, if not thousands of hours
out in the woods, and I'd never

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heard anything like that off in the
distance. I'd never heard anything like that

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up close. I never knew anything
could make that loud of a sound out

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out in the woods. And like
I said, it took me. I

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guess, I guess on a subconscious
level, it did. At fact me,

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like I said, I really couldn't
go back in the woods, or

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didn't go back in the woods for
a couple of years. I spent more

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time fishing and duck hunting and stuff
were more open. Well, I didn't

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have to go back into that thick
stuff. It took me a while before

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I've got the nerve to hunt at
night again. Even I used to go

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out and shoot rabbits. I'd go
out in the fields behind our house and

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have a shotgun and I'd go out
there and hunt rabbits at night and that

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sort of thing, to spot lighting
them, and man, after that,

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I would I still went out in
the woods, you know, I worked

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up the nerve to go out there
at night, but I made sure that

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I had a couple of shotgun slugs
with me in my pocket when I was

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out there. It had the sick
shot or whatever seven and half to shoot

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the rabbits with. But I made
sure that I always had some slugs or

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some buckshot in my pocket because I
guess it was back there in the back

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of my mind, something's out there
in the woods of East Texas and it

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doesn't want you out there. Like
I said, it only happened one time,

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but it made an impression them.
Any looking to that area where you

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had that situation and see if anyone
else has had any weird things happen in

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that area. No, I really
didn't. It's such as those really small

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communities out there, So he didn't
really talk about Mark, my brother in

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law, now, he didn't really
talk about it. Like I said,

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his dad had seen something. His
dad really never talked about it. So

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I followed their lead. I guess, like I said, I told my

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parents about it. When I got
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But as far as going back,
I have been back to that area

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since then. I've never I know
exactly where he took as like a small

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town, so I just never really
wanted to go back to the exact spot.

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I don't know if he could still
get back there. Day. The

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trades has been pretty good while now
I guess that's grown up, but been

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on other logging roads and stuff,
just hunting and stuff us And when I

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started going over the story in my
mind, but I really never thought about

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it a whole lot in the years
recently. But it made sense that something,

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if predator is in the woods in
East Texas, they would be hanging

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out along with logging roads and that
sort of a natural ambush area. I

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would have logging roads when I was
a kid. There'd be brush piles and

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stuff on the side of these logging
roads, and a lot of times,

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you know, you could jump on
the brush pile and the rabbit run out.

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Or one time I walked my big
brush pile and there some hogs in

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the brush piles. So I could
see where a logging road would be an

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ideal ambush spot. I guess if
there is something out there in the woods

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for something that big in that same
area growing up in there were there any

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other reports of strange things, not
necessarily Bigfoot related or anything else weird that

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what happened over the years in the
same area. Well, my dad told

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me a story one time, he's
a tournament fish on Raven and Salida Ben

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when we were living in Houston time. Another I was probably three or four

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or five years old. He said
he was coming back from a fishing tournament.

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Like I said, they that fished
on I guess I think it was

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Raperl that fished on Rayburn. And
this was back in the early seventies that

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this happened to him. So it
was him and another guy, and they

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teamed up and they were following each
other pulling the boats coming and they were

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coming through Conroe, which is still
East Texas. It's not deep East Texas

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because that area run Newton Jeffrey.
They call that the big thickets. Now

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it really thick with it thins out
when you get deep out of that area

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a little bit. And he was
coming through. He told me the story.

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He was coming through Conroe and it
had already got dark, and they

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saw something in the woods and he
said he thought the woods were so him

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and this other guy pulled over and
they were looking at it, and he

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said, I thought it was just
force fire, and so they stopped and

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got out and we're looking at way
he did the way he described it.

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Had been sitting there looking at for
a couple of minutes and something he said,

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well, he said, what looked
like a saucer, lifted up out

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of the woods, got the tree
top level and was gone in a second.

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He'd never really told me that story
before until I shared my story with

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Mark, and so yeah, he
had he saw something over there close to

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Conrad, which is probably an hour
away from the area where I saw or

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heard. We never saw anything,
but we heard the vocalization of what I

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believe was probably a bigfoot. My
wife has actually seen a UFO. Who

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grew up in Pasadena, heavily populated
area in passage. She was outside with

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one of her girlfriends and their kids
and her girlfriend's kids, and she said

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she looked up and there was something
that was coming over her house, no

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noise. She said, the thing
was huge. I tried to press her

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on dimensions and stuff. You know, she's not real good with that sort

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of thing. So she just described
it as probably as wide as a football

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field and a chevron shaped is what
she called it. And nothing, nothing

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happened. I just watched the sing
as it glided over her friend's house and

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then out of sight, and that
was the end of it. She was

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just her friend ran inside with her
kids, and my wife stay out there

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and watched the thing fly by,
So I've never seen anything like that.

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I, like I said, I've
never heard another vocalization. That was really

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the only thing that happened to me. The whole area of East and southeast

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Texas, there's some weird stuff that
goes on, for sure, the area

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of around Newton where your account takes
place. What do most people think that

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they're dealing with when they think a
bigfoot down there? If you've been able

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to talk to other people about it
as well, I really didn't. I've

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never His dad was really the only
one that had shared anything about bigfoot.

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We lived there, probably it wasn't
a long time that we lived there,

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probably from the time I was thirteen
twelve thirteen to time I was about sixteen.

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We ended up moving. Like I
said, my dad was a pipeline

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welder, so we ended up moving
to the Lagrange area, so we moved

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out of that area. But we
had lived in Northeast Texas and like I

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said, deep East Texas from the
time I was about four years old until

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I was probably sixteen. And I
said this happened when I was I guess,

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I said middle school. I was
seventh eighth grade, so I guess

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I was twelve thirteen, so I
didn't know what it was. I didn't

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really know to ask or think to
ask anybody have you seen a bigfoot or

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heard a bigfoot or anything like that, because so unusual that And like I

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said, his dad shared his story
with us that he had seen something really

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big and hairy and black. But
it was early in the morning. It

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was the back of his very back
of his farm land back there probably I

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would guess, three hundred yards away
from his actual house, so he never

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really got a good look at it. I guess in his mind that was

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probably what it was, a bigfoot, And that's how I described it to

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us, was just a big,
hairy, black creature. I know that

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some people have said there are black
bear in that area. I'd never seen

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a black bear. I've never seen
any scat from black bear. People always

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talking about in a lot of people
that I have come across, and hey,

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while you never find any bones of
this thing, while you never see

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any tracks of this thing. And
I'll say to that, I say,

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I really never found a lot of
bones of anything out in the woods.

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Occasionally I would come across some deer
bones because there was a hunting lease that

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was behind my house. That was
probably went back about ten or twelve miles

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back there, and I guess occasionally
somebod would shoot one it run off and

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die. And so I found deer
bones. I found a couple of times

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I found just a little small whatever
it was, I couldn't really tell,

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just small bones. But as far
as seeing anything else, I know bobcat

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lived back there. There's been,
like I said, people saying that panther

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and that sort of thing. I
never saw a bobcat or a panther either,

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So to not believe that something as
big as the Bigfoot could live back

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there, I just it doesn't make
sense to me that something if something like

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as common as as a bobcat,
and I've never seen one in the wild,

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out in the woods, could be
back think of there. Why couldn't

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something bigger be hiding out in the
thicker part of the woods. And I

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always tell people, And then when
they questioned me about it, I said,

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you don't find bigfoot, Bigfoot find
you. And that's where I left

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it off. And I do tell
people. People asked me where I grew

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up, and for the most part, it was East Texas and deep East

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Texas, and I said, Hey, if there is such a thing as

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Bigfoot, that's where he'd be.
And not too long ago, one of

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the guys at work, I'd taken
a customer home. I buy cars over

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here in San Antonio now, and
one of the guys at work was at

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history ride with me. And after
we dropped the guy off, he bsing

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back and forth, you know where, you know, he had asked me

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where I lived, and you know, I told him I lived in East

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Texas. And I said, man, if there was such a big thing

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as Bigfoot, you know, that's
where one would live. I think,

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you know. He said, it's
funny you say that, John. He

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said, I used to sell cars, you know, in Northeast Texas.

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And he said he told me a
story. He said, I was coming

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home one night. I was driving
down Farm the Market Road. I come

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around the curb and my headlights hit
something on the side of the road and

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it was eight nine foot tall and
covered with black fur, black reddish fur.

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And I mean, it wasn't a
whole lot to the store. He

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just said he saw it, he
recognized what he thought it was. And

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I pressed him a little bit on
it, and I said, well,

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what happened. What did it do? And I said, well, it

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just stood there when I drove by
it, I said, well, how

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close were you? He said,
well, I was close enough to it

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that if it would have reached out, it could have hit my car as

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it was going by. So he
got a pretty good look at whatever it

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was. And it just like the
same kind of deal with me. And

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he said, the first time,
last time, the first time I ever

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saw anything like that, and I've
never seen anything like it again. It

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was just one night in the middle
of nowhere and it just happened. It's

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one of those fascinating stories where you
know you didn't have a visual but it's

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just enough to jog the memory of
people that listen to this. And you

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know, I'm sure I will hear
from quite a few people that are like,

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you know, I've seen stuff in
the same area of East Texas,

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So I do like accounts like this
for sure. But John, I definitely

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want to thank you for coming on
the show, for reaching out and sharing

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what you experienced with me about forty
years ago down in deep East Texas.

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Well, Jeremy, I appreciate I
appreciate the time. Like I said,

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this is the first time I've really
told the story and really even thought about

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it and as much depth as I
had revisited it, so to speak.

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And in some ways, I guess
I'm glad that I didn't see it.

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If I would have seen it,
I don't know if I ever would have

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gone back in the woods and been
able to go back there, and certainly

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not at n It was, like
I said, it was always been in

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the back of my mind, something
unusual happened to us, But it wasn't

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until we saw that show on TV
that really sank in that this was not

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this Probably it probably was a big
foot. It's just like I said,

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it just it was just a normal
night. We just had gone down this

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old log road and we get off
the main roads. You wanted to drink

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a few beers. We're just sitting
there, bullshitting, going back and forth,

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and it just happened. You can't
explain any better than that. And

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then that's usually how it is.
There's no way to be prepared for.

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It usually just happens, and it's
wild. I love talking to people about

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what they've seen or what they experienced, what they heard. It makes my

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day so thank you so much.
For coming on, John. I'm sure

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your account will will help some listeners
that are listening out there for sure.

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Like I said, thank you very
much, Jeremiah. I appreciate you allow

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me the time to share the story
and like I said, recount it in

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my own mind, just relive it. I guess you'd say, I hadn't

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really thought about it in a long
time. So thank you, and I

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hope this helps somebody maybe struggling to
figure out what they heard or saw or

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whatever, and there's something was out
there I don't, Like I said,

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I never saw it, heard it
and it's scared to crap outs. Yes,

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sir, you have a great night, all right, Thank you,

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Jremah, Thank you very much.
Yes, sir, I just wanted to

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