July 29, 2025

Sasquatch Grabbed the Camera: Allegheny Bigfoot Is Close!

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Season 1

What happens when a tech-savvy Bigfoot researcher builds a live surveillance network in the most active Sasquatch hotspots across North America? In this chilling episode, we reconnect with Logan Schoessow — creator of the Bigfoot Livestream app — for a stunning update on what he’s captured since his system went live. From an undisclosed location near Pennsylvania’s Allegheny Forest, Logan shares footage of a mysterious nine-foot figure caught up-close on infrared, strange heat signatures, jaw-dropping vocalizations, and a scream that shook him to his core. We also explore bizarre phenomena from Radium, British Columbia, including missing apples, gifts from unseen hands, and trailer-shaking encounters. This is more than just tech — it’s a war for proof. Whether you believe or not, something is watching... and now, it’s being watched back.
You’ll hear about AI that hunts for Sasquatch, the screams that chilled a veteran researcher, and the property so haunted by creatures that the last owners left dishes in the sink and fled in the night.

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You're listening to Big for Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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Logan Sheeshau is back with more information about the Bigfoot

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live Stream app. And you're not going to want to

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miss this one. They've been capturing things around the US

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and what they've been able to get themselves into in

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Pennsylvania is quite extraordinary. So sit back, relax, and stay

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with us as we catch up again with Logan Chessau.

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All right, Big for Society, you've got the privilege of

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talking to Logan Chessau again. He's an individual We talked

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back in I believe October twenty twenty four, the end

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of twenty twenty four about his app, the Bigfoot live

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Stream App, which is an interesting project that he's got

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going on, a lot of really cool stuff pretty much

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looking for Bigfoot remotely all over the US. So we've

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got Logan back gone to get an update about what

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he has uncovered since then and good stuff like that.

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So welcome to the show.

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Logan. How's it going today? Man?

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It's going right. How are you doing, sir?

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Oh, I'm I'm doing great. I'm doing great, up and

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up in the attic doing doing interviews.

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I love it so logan.

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Is there anything else that the let's let's pretend you

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know it's a new listener who hasn't gone back to

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episode five point fifty seven and heard that first one.

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Any any short things that people might need to know

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about you as well before we get into the updates.

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Sure, I'll try to make it a trunk trunk caated

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just a brief kind of overview here.

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Sure.

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So a lot of my field research has been up

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in Radium, British Columbia for the last I guess four

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to five years here, and that's kind of what got

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me started on building big to the live stream app

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and trying to build a collaboration tool for researchers and

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enthusiasts what what have you?

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So, I think when we chatted back in.

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October and the system up for a little bit just

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in one location up in around Radio, British Columbia, and

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we've gotten some decent amount of data for about three months,

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like just to kick off of it, and and then

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we kind of went winter Eyes for about I don't know, four.

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To five months there.

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And in the meantime I've been doing some stuff and

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kind of grown grown things.

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But as far as the app, itself.

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It's really just a tool, a tool and idea for

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people that are, like I said, Bigfoot enthusiasts, researchers, people

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that want data driven I guess architecture that can be

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you know, reviewed and scrutinized by anyone. So it's kind

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of an idea that came out of me having a

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lot of interactions up there and wanted them to have

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I guess kind of share Bigfoot high frequency hot zones,

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high frequency if you want to call them, which habituation.

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Areas with the world, and trying to grow.

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That and collaborate with people and researchers that are active

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that have these spots and where we could get data, video, audio,

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a whole lot of data points in there, as far

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as you know, when is the most activity, When when

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do the when do these beings come out the most?

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You know, during the full moon? Is it during the

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rainstorms parts of the country. I mean, there's sounds of

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data to be collected, and and that's just kind of

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the just a handful of things I'm kind.

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Of sorting and parsing through.

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But but yeah, that's kind of the high level update

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kind of from October and I can start digging and

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giving you what's kind of happened between then and now.

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Absolutely, before we do that, I do want to probably

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address something that's on new listeners' minds that haven't gone

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back to episode five fifty seven, which I'd really recommend

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you do, because they've heard the term radium in British

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Columbia and they're like, oh, is this is this a

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thing like headed up by Todd Standing? Is it is

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outside of that? Correct? It's it's pretty much your own

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project or what is the current status of that right now?

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So I do collaborate with Todd be up in that

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area because it is his kind of research area and

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I'm looking for those high frequency spots. It's not it's

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not it's really my my project, and I'm not just

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focusing on one researcher one area. It's kind of US

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and Canada abroad at least for the time being. It

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could go over to Russia maybe, but but yeah, it's

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one of the sites that has three different streams up

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right now is is in Radium.

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I have other researchers I'm working with.

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In Pennsylvania undisclosed location, and I'm still trying to grow

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the network and get more areas around Texas, Alabama, Georgia,

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California's in the north, the Northwest region, Oregon.

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All those places. So it's kind of a you know,

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people have their opinions of Todd.

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I'm just trying to give all the data and let

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people make their own decisions.

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So that's that's kind of my stance.

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Absolutely, thank you for addressing that for a few minutes.

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So what has happened since we last talked, Because I've

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kind of seen some stuff and I'm thinking there's been

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some some interesting things that have happened. I'm going to

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let you go ahead and let me share some things

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that you've learned along the way since late twenty twenty four.

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Yeah, I guess I'll kind of start where I left

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off as far as the architecture goes, and I'll try

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not to get too technical with it. But one of

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the things I've been trying to figure out is how

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to make things more reliable and off grid and try

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to get those areas that are deep in the woods

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like obtainable to people without having direct AC power or

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power source that's on the grid. So I have basically

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solved that problem.

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Mostly on my own.

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I did do some outside consulting with some energy people

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that are good at what they do. That has been

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resolved for the most part. I'm still tweaking things. Everything

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can be optimized, but I have a solid footprint and

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poop the concept and I have the proven concept running

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and I'm building two more units as we speak.

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So it's that's one kind of update.

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So it's not just for you know, having with power

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out in the woods, it's for basically anywhere national forests,

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remote locations. It's long as they can get a clear

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signal to the sky, it's doable. Nothing's ever going to

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be perfect off grid as far as you know. If

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it rains a whole week straight and it's solar driven

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and battery driven, you know, it might have some downtime, right,

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But those are thank forces of nature that I can't

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I can't solve. So so that's kind of the architecture update.

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As far as app updates. In the off season, I

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really tried to work and reach out to a lot

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of people and try to find good, good.

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Researchers to work with good hot activity sites.

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So I had I had one slated for Alabama that

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kind of fell through, and at the very last second

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I had two in the in the northeast, in the

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in the state of Pennsylvania up.

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Like, I had to really scramble to get get that

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going like as soon as possible.

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So I literally built two systems within like a week

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and a half and flew flew up there. Let's see,

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I flew up there in April and set up two

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systems in April, back to back work with a team

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of people, a research team.

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Have a hot hot down up there, and it's kind

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of around the Allegheny Forest. Both these sites are.

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So and they're kind of private, so it's you know,

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I can I can kind of get general general locations.

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But you know, they've they've been having activity in this

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area for ten plus years now and they're and they've

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been on the fence. They were on the fence for

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a few months trying to figure out if they really

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wanted to do this and kind of put themselves out

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there a little bit more than they were doing with.

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The research teamounts there.

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So finally, fortunately we finally convinced them to you know,

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to work with us and try to build some data.

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So right now we've got four streams up there.

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And I'll also implement thermal into these feeds, so both

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actually all three sites right now, two in Pennsylvania and

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one in British Columbia, they all have a thermal feed

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going at the same time. So it's high end optical

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paired with a thermal thermal lens that actually streams twenty

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four to seven as well, and the thermal is actually

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programmed to follow heat so as well as the optical,

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so any kind of heat signatures, movement signatures, anything. These

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cameras are all high end pin tilt zoom, so they

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will spin around three sixty if they need to, but

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any any kind of movement they and they will try

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to follow it and track it. And it kind of

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helps my back end architecture in a sense that if

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I do have movement, it's easier for me to program

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some of these things that are kind of already integrated

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into these cameras. So I don't know anyone out there

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that's kind of pushed it to that limit yet.

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I know there's people using.

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Drones and thermal like you know, handheld, but I don't

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think anyone is really doing what I'm doing as far

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as I'm live and also have it searchable, so.

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So I know I'm going deep into architecture.

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If you want me to like pump the brakes and

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kind of get into some other things, I can.

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I can. I can go that direction too.

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I will say the other functionality that I think is important,

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and I have everything basically build a streaming service within

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this app. So just think of it as for the

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for the last two weeks to four weeks, you can

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review any footage you want from any of these streams.

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So they go on two hour chunks and it's all automated.

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So every two hours you're.

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Going to get seven different outputs in that functionality within

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the app to where you can go and review all

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these chunks in time if you really wanted to, if

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you thought you saw something, or if you wanted to

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review something from three am in the morning, you can

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go directly to that. You don't have to watch it live,

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and you can report on anything that you find that

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the back end architecture hasn't seen. Right, So there's plenty

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of there's plenty of opportunity for people to go in

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and dig and collaborate and find find things. I still

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use it, Like I said, the system's not perfect, right,

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Like there's opportunity to find the signature movement that my

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architecture may or may not be able to pick up

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just because it's so subtle or it's quick. So yeah,

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I still need help and at the end of the day,

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I still need eyes on things to have people like

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review footage and like talk about things they.

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Find and then help me so I can.

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Post all those findings within the app or post it

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to social media or whatever it is, right, So I

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think that's important the note. And then another important thing

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as far as the architecture. Again, I'm talking high level

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here as much as I can, but it's complicated. But

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I do have like machine learning and AI pipelines in

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the back that's actively grabbing all those chunks of data

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and sticking that into database back ends and doing logging

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and review and marketing spots.

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So you've had to think of it as a.

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You're use some of these camera systems and they have

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those event monitors. It's it's that, but it's more focused

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towards an algorithm that I'm building that's really focused more

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towards big foot and not waving of trees or.

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You know, some kind of animal or a car driving

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by right or that's human.

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It's it's more human oriented and eat signature organ oriented

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and frequency oriented so and and amplitude as far as south.

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But so yeah, that's that's kind of in the background.

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So it's it's a big.

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Hot mess of work for me.

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I am working on every day and right now I'm

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doing all that.

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On my own. As far as the programming goes.

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And the and the app and really reaching out to people.

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There's a couple of folks I'm working with are kind

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of on board and kind of enjoy the project and

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want it to grow. So I do have that, But

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as far as a lot of the just head down

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on the keyboard.

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It's pretty much me doing everything.

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So if anyone really wanted to get involved and help me,

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I'm open to it because I'm only one person.

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And the sometimes it takes an army.

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But yeah, that's that's kind of the architecture update.

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I do have a few questions for you about some

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stuff you just said if that's okay, yeah, so.

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And yeah, well this will probably get deep, but it's

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all right.

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So are you then at the point where you have

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trained AI to look for certain things that would look

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like the form of an ape or a humanoid. I

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think you were getting to that point. Last time we

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talked about are you actually at that point where the

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AI can notify you and be like, hey, we've got

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something here.

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Yes, And it's i'd say it's a little it's like threaded,

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it's looking for that. So it's it is gearing up

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to just be that model, right, but it's still in

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data collection mode to build the full model, if that

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makes sense. So it's it is geared towards that. Yes,

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So it is machine learning AI. That's basically me tweaking

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and revamping at based on the findings that we're getting.

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But as far as being done with the actual model

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and like reproducible and I could I could share an

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actual model, it's not that all the way.

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I need more data, yeah, gotcha.

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And I would guess you're gonna The way for you

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to get more data is you need more sites where

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you can have this system set up and then take

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more data in.

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Is that right?

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The more the more sites, the better.

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The more people finding anomaly that I haven't found, the better.

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It's it's data to par So it's just with seven streams,

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it's about four terabytes a month maybe, and that's and

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that's with the bitrate uh, kind of scaled down a

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little bit just for the time being.

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If I if I max it up all the way

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to four K on everything, I mean, it's it's kind

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of double. It's going to be like eight terabytes of data.

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But I can't really pull I can't really do that

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unless I get you know, real a lot of more

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people engaged, because I mean, this is pretty much all

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on my dime at this point. That's what I'm kind

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of looking for, the right people, the right involvement people

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to really collaborate with me so i can like push

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this to the limit. And I've got I've got other

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things in the back ends doing as far as like

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better technology and working with some folks in the government

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and working with light ar, working with thermal drones. All

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these things are flowing around in the back of my

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head on things that we could do.

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Here, gotcha. So these are ideas you have.

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You're not saying you're actually working with someone in the government,

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but potential in the future.

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I've reached out to people and I've got I've got

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some spec sheets in front of me that would work,

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and I've got, you know, the right contacts.

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I just need some of the equipment's is super pricey.

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So you know, twenty dollars for one high end four

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K level X thermal that they use for the Department

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of Agriculture for instance.

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Right, So I could really get the clarity like ten

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times better on the thermal just by implementing that. But

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you know, I just I need to find the resources.

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So I don't have like a Kickstarter or anything. Like

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I said, it's all pretty much just me kind of

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trying to fund this. I've thought about doing some crowdfunding,

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but I just haven't got there yet.

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Yeah, it's pretty much so do you and the support

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from the access to the app?

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Correct, yep, yep, yep.

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Wow, that's that's it's extremely daunting that you're taking all

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this on yourself. It's very very very cool. You had

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mentioned that you also there was frequency involved with things

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you were looking into for the AI model. Can you

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go a little bit more into that, like what you

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mean when you say frequency.

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So, I have a.

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Associated that's truly into audio, and I've got some other

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people that are really into looking at audio. They put

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recorders out everywhere and they're they're really using that as

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a source of truth and evidence. So they're like a

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lot of the frequency is between a certain hurts and

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that they're looking for in the signal on the spectrum.

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So when they find like howls and calls and like.

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Even like far off returns, like a lot of it,

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based on what people are giving me, is in within

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a certain range. So I'm trying to dial things in

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to be like start in that range and kind of

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look in that range based on evidence that the people

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have given me. But at the same time, I'm trying

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to do it on level of magnitude and amplitude, because

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there's some really high amplitude like actual tree knocks or

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whatever you want to call them, power knocks. They sound

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like shotguns to be honest with you, it sounds like

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somebody's shooting a gun. So I'm really looking for those

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parts in the algorithm. And like I said, it's it's

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a work in progress, right, Like once we're going in

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on that, maybe we'll find some different sets of data

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within go search in different loans. But like there's certain

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frequencies like for birds, right you can tell just looking

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at the visual if you're looking at a program and

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you're looking at the sound spikes, like when there's a

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bird caller. It's kind of in the higher range, and

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a lot of times when it's a bigfoot oriented you know,

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you can say it's potential.

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But a lot of it.

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Seems to be kind of substantiated from my point, they're

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kind of in the lower range, So kind of focusing

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on that.

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Absolutely, are you able to dial in and look specifically

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for like hypothetically twenty to forty Hurtz.

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Yep, I can I can do any of that.

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That's awesome.

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I've tried to do all the research in the coding

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that I could to make it as optimal as possible, so.

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I can go tweak it. It's just a.

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New commit on the code and change it if we

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want to change it. But I've kind of dialed in

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as far as the coding goes on that on that

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machine learning pipeline, like what I think.

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We need to start where we need to start at.

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I gave it some live.

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Logan's Logan's just been cut off for the second time

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in this interview. My stuff is just going absolutely bonkers.

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I'm going to try to call him back right now.

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Both times it's like all of a sudden, I hear

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and it just gets totally cut off.

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All right, I'm gonna go ahead and process.

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Hey logan you there.

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Yeah, sorry about it.

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I've shut down all other electronics on my desk, so

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I don't know if there was some weird like interference

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there something. It was like my Bluetooth was just getting

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like shut off. So okay, So yeah, we were just

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we were just talking about some really interesting stuff, which

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was that you're able to dial it in for twenty

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to forty hurts, which to break that down for listeners

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that aren't on the same I guess wavelength kind of. Uh,

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that's pretty much when you're able to look for infrasound, right.

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Yep, yep, there's infrasound there.

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And then there's a little bit like a lot of

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the I'd say, if if you're getting like, uh whatever

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the ohio how or.

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Callback that's in the distance, you know, maybe a mile.

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Away somewhere between the six thousand, that's kind of I'm

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kind of staying in that range event. But yeah, it's

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it's kind of multifaceted in that sense.

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And there's some.

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There's some other office shelf products audio recorders that have

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found that are trying to do infra kind of infra stuff,

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and some bad stuff and some weird things.

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But yeah, it's it's it's all over the it's all

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over the place.

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That's that's extremely interesting. Have you had any any luck

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getting any of that captured or it's still in the

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dialing in process.

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Dialing it in. So there's the other thing is is

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depending on where you put the system, Like I have

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one system that's almost like a natural creak swampy area,

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so it's a challenge to clean up some stuff and

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do not have interference on some of these locations. But

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the one out in uh Radiumberish Columbia, I think that

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it's like.

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Is a really good test and capturing that because even

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though like uh so, some of these systems, like you

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can hear a little bit of ambient almost mechanical noise

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from the camera sometimes, but as far as as just

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absolute quietness, it is Christine because like most of the time,

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you know, I'm hearing bugs on there. It is it

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is just dead silent, and it is like, that's opportunity

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for capping something like that.

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Gotcha?

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Since since that time late twenty twenty four, have you

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have you captured any interesting things through your systems on

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these sites that you've been able to.

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Partner with.

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Captured a few things.

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I finally I went to Radium to go set up

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the off grade system and the direct current all non

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AC based system there in June, so that one's still going.

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They've had a lot of rain here this week, so

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it's I'm still uh.

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I'm working with.

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Todd to to get another battery and just to cover

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some of the magnitude of brain they had. But I've

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had some interesting findings in the Allegheny place, for sure.

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I'm interesting anio.

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Out of Radium and some some hate signatures out of Radium,

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some hate signatures out of Alleghany, some bigfoot gremlins out

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of Alleghany that I don't I don't know what to

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do with it.

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Like I think I posted so I posted this one.

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I think it's on the app and it's on Instagram.

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I'm not like, I'm really bad at social media. I

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need to get a better at it to be fair

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if I kind of want to grow this.

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But I think I do have a YouTube and Instagram

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and a Facebook, and I I.

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Just started doing some TikTok stuff.

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I've been trying to stay away meant for a long time,

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just because personally I try to not to like go

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zombie mode on that stuff, but I kind of need

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it to grow things.

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But there was this incense about a.

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Week after setting up the system in Allegheny to where

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the camera is about nine feet in the air off

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this metal and wood apparatus that was built by another

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researcher to help mount it, and it's kind of scanning

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the tree line there on the back end of this property.

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And whatever it was, I had the IR on to

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begin with. Right now, I'm doing test betting and turning

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the IR off fully and just using ambient light and

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moonlight and stuff like that just to see the differences

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on like activity versus iron and off. But that first

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week of IR on, when we set it up, something

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crossed directly in front of the camera, and again it's

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is nine feet tall.

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And it went back and forth, and it's not like

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level ground in front of it.

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It's kind of like a little hilly ditch there and

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a tree stump like kind of in the mix.

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It's like a saw down tree stump.

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And there's no way for me to even touch that

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camera without getting on a ladder.

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But whatever it was across in front.

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Of it, it gave like the weird thing is is

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I don't know what to do with it. And I

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posted it a few different places and talked about it,

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and I haven't really got any real good feedback on

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what it is, aside people saying, oh, that's not you know,

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it's not anything. It's somebody like playing with you. But

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there's like this head that comes into the picture, like

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00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:54.200
it looks like the back of a head a mouse,

473
00:29:54.400 --> 00:29:58.240
or the back of the head and neck. It's so

474
00:29:58.319 --> 00:30:00.559
close to the IR like to get that close to

475
00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:03.039
the IR light, you have to be right up on

476
00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:07.559
it almost to walk the entire thing, the entire lens,

477
00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:11.680
you'd have to be all the way up to it completely.

478
00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:15.319
And this thing blocks it and the refraction from the

479
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:17.599
ire light turns it whites it out right.

480
00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:20.039
So it's so so close to the IR that it

481
00:30:20.079 --> 00:30:24.960
whpes it out completely. And it's like it looks like.

482
00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:26.799
The first of it looks kind of like the back

483
00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:29.920
of the head, like I'm saying, and then it goes

484
00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:31.799
it kind of goes back and forth in front of

485
00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:35.279
its camera like it's.

486
00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:37.880
Like super like I slowed it down, but.

487
00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:40.039
If you do it regular speed, it's really quick and

488
00:30:40.079 --> 00:30:45.440
it lasts for about twenty five seconds where it goes

489
00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:48.160
back and forth and blocks the camera, and at one

490
00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:51.720
in the frame it's so close that you can see it.

491
00:30:51.720 --> 00:30:55.640
Almost looks like a textured skin. I think you can

492
00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:57.839
see it's like a blotch. I don't know if you've

493
00:30:57.880 --> 00:31:00.000
ever seen a new word maybe and their skin is blocked.

494
00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:01.119
It looks like that.

495
00:31:02.319 --> 00:31:06.559
And then after it goes by, there's almost like a

496
00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:14.720
suture or a stitch on on whatever. Like I said,

497
00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:18.799
I'm not defenditive on what this is. I'm just saying

498
00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:23.039
it's interesting. But if it looks like a suture or

499
00:31:23.079 --> 00:31:27.039
a stitch on the skin of whatever this is, you

500
00:31:27.079 --> 00:31:29.240
see in two different frames of the imagery.

501
00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:33.200
And I've reached.

502
00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:36.079
Out to people and I've tried to people say, well,

503
00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:41.319
it's someone wearing a hoodie and they got on a

504
00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:43.720
ladder and they went back and forth in front of

505
00:31:43.799 --> 00:31:46.359
your land, and that stitch is a stitch from clothing,

506
00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:50.359
and and I'm so I went out and did my

507
00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:52.960
own testing with it, since I had my lab, I

508
00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:55.359
bought a hoodie on and did that, and I did

509
00:31:55.359 --> 00:31:59.480
it with various other objects like like football or baseball,

510
00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:02.359
you know, things that have like clear stitches and see

511
00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:04.319
what it would look like in they r and nothing

512
00:32:05.240 --> 00:32:07.880
honey does the texture of honey, and the texture of

513
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:13.359
cloting doesn't match the texture of you know, just athletic

514
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:16.920
stitches and stuff like that. I've tried some other stuff,

515
00:32:16.960 --> 00:32:19.920
but I just can't find a solid match to what

516
00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:22.440
it is. If you really, you know, look at the

517
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:24.920
evidence and actually try to recreate it, I haven't been

518
00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:28.519
able to say that is that. And I don't understand

519
00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:32.200
how it would be nine feet up in the air

520
00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:34.200
and only be a portion of it.

521
00:32:36.119 --> 00:32:38.160
So it really didn't make any sense to me.

522
00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:41.880
Like I try to debunk it my own and I

523
00:32:41.920 --> 00:32:45.079
haven't debunked it, and I can't figure out like you

524
00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:48.160
can see like a ridge of like the outline has

525
00:32:48.200 --> 00:32:51.480
a texture of some kind of buzz or hair, but

526
00:32:51.519 --> 00:32:56.920
it's not like matted hair anything, right, It's not something

527
00:32:56.920 --> 00:32:58.880
you would think of, Hey, that's a big foot the

528
00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:00.920
back of a pig, but it's got you know, four

529
00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:04.240
or five inches of hair all over it. So again

530
00:33:04.319 --> 00:33:06.880
I don't really know what it is. I've been in

531
00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:10.839
debate since this side is so.

532
00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:13.839
So active and they actually leave things all around the property.

533
00:33:15.079 --> 00:33:18.480
If it wasn't you know, the back of the head

534
00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:22.920
of a big foot. Maybe it was something they were

535
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:25.200
waving in front of the camera since it was new

536
00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:27.920
to them, and maybe it wasn't. And then I'm an

537
00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:32.440
object that I don't know what it was. But still

538
00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:34.920
I don't know what would be waving that nine feet

539
00:33:34.920 --> 00:33:37.279
in the air and like blocking the r and going

540
00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:40.680
back and forth for twenty five seconds.

541
00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:43.279
So it's really intriguing.

542
00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:46.680
Like I said, that site is I can give you

543
00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:51.519
backstories to that site, but it's been really highly active

544
00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:54.240
for at least ten years now, and the property owners

545
00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:58.279
are just learned to deal with it, and they're they're

546
00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:04.519
really nice people and they're kind of assimilated to it now.

547
00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:10.079
But like they they leave items all over that place. There's,

548
00:34:11.159 --> 00:34:14.559
for instance, they left these huge boulders all over their property.

549
00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:18.679
They've left chickens all around that place with their heads off.

550
00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:22.199
There's dogs that go missing in those woods and they

551
00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:24.599
come up to the property and look for these dogs,

552
00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:28.679
and as of recent like five different dogs have been

553
00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:34.280
missing there, and they slap their house. I'd say at

554
00:34:34.360 --> 00:34:36.480
least twice a week they'll go up and slap and

555
00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:40.719
bang on their house like really fast and just knock

556
00:34:40.840 --> 00:34:43.159
pictures off the wall even they hit the house so hard.

557
00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:45.880
And it's not just the property owners they experience it.

558
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:49.559
There's teams of people that go out there and see

559
00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:51.559
these things, and they see orbs.

560
00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:54.159
There was an ORB there.

561
00:34:54.039 --> 00:34:56.400
When I was there to go do the system, for instance,

562
00:34:57.559 --> 00:35:00.119
and that, and again I'm trying to give you a

563
00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:06.119
multitude of things that happened just in Allegheny, But like

564
00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:09.199
the very first few days there when we brought the

565
00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:13.000
system up and I started kind of putting it to

566
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:16.480
the back end and doing and recording, there was this

567
00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:20.599
And this is like the very first night, even a

568
00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:24.159
proper property owner was using the app. And they're up

569
00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:28.159
all night anyway with they have their own their own

570
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:31.079
kind of problems, but they really enjoy like looking at it.

571
00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:35.559
And they captured some still heat signatures before I actually

572
00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:40.679
had the system actually set up to record fully of

573
00:35:41.519 --> 00:35:45.679
unactual bigfoot like heat signatures there. And it's it looks

574
00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:49.000
like a classic big foot with a you know, kind

575
00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:49.960
of that stature.

576
00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:51.519
It's probably.

577
00:35:52.679 --> 00:35:55.280
Thirty forty fifty feet in the distance in the tree

578
00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:58.840
line and you can kind of see the even the

579
00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:02.639
the backside of it, like he has a large rear

580
00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:05.280
end right, I'm saying he. I don't know if that

581
00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:10.599
to he or she. But so I had a whole

582
00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:14.280
other system, a whole other camera that I've this is

583
00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:16.639
where the WU comes in. I've had this other system

584
00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:22.440
there for audio and another camera that we ran three

585
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:26.800
hundred feet of cat cable.

586
00:36:26.440 --> 00:36:31.639
Out into the wood palid thing. And every single time.

587
00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:34.360
I stood it up and the system like stood that

588
00:36:34.440 --> 00:36:37.679
camera up when I was there, it would not turn on.

589
00:36:38.559 --> 00:36:39.920
Actually such a holling apart.

590
00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:41.960
And tried to debug it, and then I would take

591
00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:45.760
it into the garage and plug it in, everything the same,

592
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:47.440
and it would turn on. And I go out into

593
00:36:47.480 --> 00:36:49.159
the woods and plug it in. It wouldn't turn on,

594
00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:52.400
and I was getting so so irritated with it. I

595
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:54.719
couldn't figure out why it wouldn't turn on, why it

596
00:36:54.760 --> 00:36:58.199
won't come on, And then.

597
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:02.159
I ran out on top. So I'd take it home

598
00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:05.360
and do testing with it, and there's absolutely zero wrong

599
00:37:05.400 --> 00:37:05.760
with it.

600
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:07.800
Like I ran it for three months straight when I

601
00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:10.840
took it home, no problems. And then I sent a

602
00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:13.920
brand new one up there to a researcher since I

603
00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:16.800
already had it all laid out for them, just to

604
00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:19.960
go plug it in, right, So they spent a day

605
00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:22.039
doing the same song and dance that I did.

606
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:24.280
Where it would work. They take it out in the woods,

607
00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:26.159
wouldn't work, wouldn't turn on.

608
00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:30.480
These games are amber even at because that's how I

609
00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:33.760
designed the architecture to not have to have a powercorn

610
00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:37.119
three hundred foot cables and this is the same link

611
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:38.639
and they're working.

612
00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:40.079
Just find no problems.

613
00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:43.559
And we swapped cables out, we smack camels out, and

614
00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:48.079
I can't get this deep wood camera action to work

615
00:37:48.119 --> 00:37:49.239
in the location we wanted.

616
00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:52.760
And that's just kind of one of those blue things

617
00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:54.960
that I haven't figured out yet. I don't understand it.

618
00:37:55.239 --> 00:37:56.280
So I still have to.

619
00:37:56.159 --> 00:38:00.000
Go back out there, figure out a location that will work,

620
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:02.039
set up another camera.

621
00:38:03.360 --> 00:38:07.719
So it is difficult, though to give keep people's privacy

622
00:38:08.880 --> 00:38:12.159
and to live stream at the same time and not

623
00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:15.519
giveaway areas or you know, anything like that.

624
00:38:15.639 --> 00:38:19.559
So we're thinking about.

625
00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:22.760
Creative ways to do that without like giving away locations

626
00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:27.960
or getting into their own lives. So right now, it's

627
00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:30.880
it's it's uh, it's a tree line view of the

628
00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:33.360
area that's hot that goes back and forth for them, but.

629
00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:39.280
It's pretty intriguing, and that one, that one is ongoing.

630
00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:43.400
I'm capturing a lot of heat signatures out of there

631
00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:43.960
they have.

632
00:38:46.280 --> 00:38:46.800
Captured.

633
00:38:47.079 --> 00:38:50.039
So we set up a side camera inside the garage

634
00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:52.760
that doesn't go to live stream because it kind of

635
00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:56.519
points to this campfire and what the property owners said

636
00:38:56.519 --> 00:38:58.360
at that camphire all the time, so I don't really

637
00:38:58.440 --> 00:38:59.639
want that monk camera.

638
00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:03.719
Sounds from that camera, and that sound like.

639
00:39:06.199 --> 00:39:07.760
I don't know what you want to call it, but

640
00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:11.840
it was like a growl almost like three different grunt growls,

641
00:39:11.880 --> 00:39:14.639
and then it and then the animals in the area

642
00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:17.400
kind of run off and then it kind of dissipates.

643
00:39:18.559 --> 00:39:22.000
I don't know what to make of it. So I'm

644
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:28.320
trying to be not trying to hide things from these individuals.

645
00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:31.360
At the same time, I'm trying to do different things

646
00:39:31.400 --> 00:39:36.599
and explore what works and what doesn't. So, yeah, there's

647
00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:37.679
more to come at that site.

648
00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:41.920
The other one has a lot a lot of animals

649
00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:45.920
and stuff rolling through, and bears and deer and eagles

650
00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:47.199
and beavers.

651
00:39:46.760 --> 00:39:49.760
And all these different things. So even if you didn't

652
00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:51.039
see a big foot there.

653
00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:54.960
You're gonna see tons of animals, especially at night, that

654
00:39:55.079 --> 00:39:57.639
are roaming through there. I've gotten so many hundreds of

655
00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:02.280
different clips of heat signatures and and it auto zooms

656
00:40:02.280 --> 00:40:04.679
in and kind of searches that where it came from

657
00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:09.039
and everything. So if you're just kind of a nature enthusiast,

658
00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:12.480
that one. I haven't caught as much data on the

659
00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:19.159
more wildlife, but it is in a crow's distance flight

660
00:40:19.280 --> 00:40:23.119
of this other place and it's still a.

661
00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:27.079
Zone of activity over there. So yeah, that's that's kind

662
00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:29.360
of the update as far as the Pennsylvania sides.

663
00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:33.599
So that site sounds absolutely incredible. Have there been actual

664
00:40:33.880 --> 00:40:36.239
visual sightings at that location?

665
00:40:38.119 --> 00:40:42.559
Yes? Wow, the research team the property owner actually sees

666
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:46.880
them frequently. They were looking through her windows all the

667
00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:50.039
time to be fair, and they actually, this is the

668
00:40:50.079 --> 00:40:54.360
amazing part. They leave their handprints all over their cars

669
00:40:54.519 --> 00:40:57.239
and their windows and it leaves it leaves a white

670
00:40:57.280 --> 00:40:58.519
seabum all over the place.

671
00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:03.440
So that white resident that researchers talk about, it's all over.

672
00:41:03.480 --> 00:41:06.239
It's the handprints are unique.

673
00:41:06.840 --> 00:41:09.719
It's almost like the thumbs turned up more like an

674
00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:16.840
ape like it's not out, it's up. And recently they

675
00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:19.400
it was like a smaller it seems like juvenile that

676
00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:22.280
did it recently in the last few days, but they

677
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:26.039
actually pull those prints off. The researchers up there will

678
00:41:26.039 --> 00:41:28.400
pull those prints off like with a CSI kit. And

679
00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:31.159
don't don't ask me questions about that because I am

680
00:41:31.199 --> 00:41:35.039
not a fingerprint expert. I and these these people they

681
00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:38.239
know what they're doing and I don't. But I've seen

682
00:41:38.280 --> 00:41:40.519
what they've what they've done, and it seems like they're

683
00:41:40.519 --> 00:41:42.280
doing it the right way, and they're trying to send

684
00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:47.639
it to folks like Doug Hicheck and the other people

685
00:41:47.639 --> 00:41:51.039
that can get things to the university labs. But if

686
00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:54.000
you just run the fingerprints at a cursory check on

687
00:41:54.039 --> 00:41:56.920
those fingerprints and say you put it into some of

688
00:41:56.960 --> 00:42:00.960
these you know chat CBT and uh, you know the

689
00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:05.599
LM's out there, and just say, hey, is this well,

690
00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:08.440
can you tell me about this fingerprint? Right, most of

691
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:11.280
the time when you put those into it, it'll say

692
00:42:11.280 --> 00:42:13.599
it's not a standard thumb print. So I think, like

693
00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:17.360
the you know, the whatever they're called, they're they're too

694
00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:21.159
far apart. It has all these weird inconsistencies, And like

695
00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:23.760
I said, I can't go off that alone, but it

696
00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:26.360
is it is interesting how it doesn't seem like a

697
00:42:26.440 --> 00:42:31.320
normal print of a normal human being and they put

698
00:42:31.400 --> 00:42:35.360
up there's a researcher out there. Oddly enough, his name

699
00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:37.880
is Todd, so I work a lot of Todds. But

700
00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:40.639
he's done a lot of analysis on the finger print

701
00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:44.159
and he collects a lot of that trace evidence there.

702
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:49.320
So they've even when we showed up. We showed up

703
00:42:49.320 --> 00:42:52.719
in this kind of this sprinter veyan with another person,

704
00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:55.480
and I kind of stayed there that first night, like

705
00:42:55.599 --> 00:43:01.960
while we're at the campfire, some one saw something, some

706
00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:04.679
movement over there by the cars when we went over there,

707
00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:07.400
and there's a huge handprint right like on the on

708
00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:09.400
top of the spinner van that we just drove up

709
00:43:09.559 --> 00:43:14.039
like hours ago. Right, So I don't understand, Like I'm

710
00:43:14.039 --> 00:43:16.079
still trying to figure out how they are just so

711
00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:21.760
elusive and sneaky without people noticing. Like I haven't figured

712
00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:27.760
that out. It's that site is it's a really good

713
00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:30.760
level to try to put high end equipment out and

714
00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:34.960
try to capture something and it's only been a few months, right,

715
00:43:35.320 --> 00:43:39.519
Like you can't expect something to happen like every single day.

716
00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:45.280
Right, It's it's consistency that gets your results. So you're

717
00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:48.679
gonnare more cameras. I'm just gonna get back out there.

718
00:43:48.719 --> 00:43:55.000
But it's they the the other researchers there, they've they've

719
00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:58.400
seen them out in the woods.

720
00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:02.159
They've seen the glowing eyes. They came up upon them.

721
00:44:02.159 --> 00:44:05.920
There's there's a handful of different accounts I can think

722
00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:08.320
up at the top, and then there's probably a hundred

723
00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:09.159
others that I don't know.

724
00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:11.840
They have tried to put out game cams like they

725
00:44:11.880 --> 00:44:15.679
put out you know, the movement cams and kind of

726
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:18.119
stuck them in weird places and they tried to catch

727
00:44:18.159 --> 00:44:21.639
them off guard, and they really haven't came up with

728
00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:23.920
much on that. It's about now we're trying.

729
00:44:23.679 --> 00:44:28.000
To do this non non non game camera action and

730
00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:30.440
set up thermal and set up you know, my system

731
00:44:31.440 --> 00:44:34.840
and eventually it'll be more perimeter based around the house

732
00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:38.320
when you know, if the propery owners okay with it.

733
00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:42.559
But it's definitely a work in progress there and it's

734
00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:46.760
definitely like a really good base site. That's it's still

735
00:44:46.800 --> 00:44:50.559
it's still pretty much off grid there, don't have a

736
00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:51.599
lot of neighbors, and like.

737
00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:56.960
I said, it backed up to the forest and they

738
00:44:57.000 --> 00:45:00.599
don't you know, you know, they're held really in their

739
00:45:00.639 --> 00:45:06.639
private and they I'll tell you this really quick. So

740
00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:08.320
when they moved into this house.

741
00:45:08.119 --> 00:45:11.239
They they got a really good deal on it because

742
00:45:11.239 --> 00:45:15.400
the people that were there before them basically bought it, stayed,

743
00:45:15.519 --> 00:45:18.559
stayed there a week, and left, and they left all

744
00:45:18.599 --> 00:45:20.679
of their stuff in the house and and the and

745
00:45:20.760 --> 00:45:24.480
the dishes in the sink. So I don't know if

746
00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:27.480
that tells you anything, but whatever it was, they they

747
00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:31.199
got out of there quick. The proper owner was walking

748
00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:34.559
the tree line just before, probably about a month before

749
00:45:34.599 --> 00:45:36.599
I said, that sits them up out there around eastern

750
00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:43.840
and with her grand grandchildren, and they they looked up

751
00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:46.719
and said, you know, grandma, look look at that.

752
00:45:46.840 --> 00:45:48.320
There's an eph right there.

753
00:45:48.360 --> 00:45:51.280
Right, And it was she looks up and just sees

754
00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:54.039
an individual in front of her, and she's seen them

755
00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:57.800
a lot, but the grandkids had never seen anything like that,

756
00:45:57.880 --> 00:45:58.400
so they didn't know.

757
00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:00.119
How to describe the other. And the Hey, there's a

758
00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:02.079
big epe over there. What is it doing? Right?

759
00:46:02.679 --> 00:46:04.880
And it was literally like twenty feet from them, walking

760
00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:07.519
towards them, and she kind of booked it and guy

761
00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:11.280
out of there. But you know, it's it's just a

762
00:46:11.320 --> 00:46:13.079
hot hot bed of activity there.

763
00:46:13.719 --> 00:46:18.400
Wow, you are in the absolute right spot. My my friend,

764
00:46:18.440 --> 00:46:22.280
that is that is crazy that you were able to

765
00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:24.280
get linked up with a spot like that. I mean,

766
00:46:24.360 --> 00:46:28.559
you're going to capture. The chances of you capturing like

767
00:46:28.599 --> 00:46:32.400
the next PG film or something, I would say is

768
00:46:33.000 --> 00:46:35.440
so high. You have so many like visuals. It's just

769
00:46:36.239 --> 00:46:38.719
maybe it just takes them long enough to get used

770
00:46:38.719 --> 00:46:41.760
to your setup. And I don't know, man, it just

771
00:46:42.239 --> 00:46:44.679
I got a feeling that you're gonna you're gonna get

772
00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:47.360
some crazy stuff out of there. You already are getting

773
00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:49.440
weird stuff out of there. Is just going to get crazier,

774
00:46:49.960 --> 00:46:54.480
and like, what's the what's the plan currently? If like

775
00:46:54.800 --> 00:46:58.400
you do get the next you know, you capture the

776
00:46:58.440 --> 00:47:02.400
next you know, PG film? Uh using your setup on

777
00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:04.760
this property, Like where do you go from there?

778
00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:11.920
I mean, it's it's trying to get everyone else to

779
00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:15.639
like look at all the evidence and say that it's real.

780
00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:19.159
You know, it's going to be uphill battle. But if

781
00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:21.559
I can, if I can give them, hey, here's twenty

782
00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:23.159
four hours or I don't know.

783
00:47:23.119 --> 00:47:26.880
Here's thirty days worth of footage, here's the blip where

784
00:47:26.880 --> 00:47:30.920
it happened. I have, but before they after everything I have,

785
00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:33.559
you know, here's what I've used.

786
00:47:33.639 --> 00:47:38.159
Here's the architecture, there's the history, and you know, if

787
00:47:38.159 --> 00:47:40.079
you want to look at raw footage, you can look

788
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:42.159
at raw footage if you want to look at something, right,

789
00:47:42.239 --> 00:47:44.039
That's that's what people.

790
00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:46.639
Aren't really doing. They're not given the whole picture. They're

791
00:47:46.639 --> 00:47:50.559
given this three second clip of you know, many of

792
00:47:50.599 --> 00:47:54.199
them looking at something in the woods and there's no backstory,

793
00:47:54.239 --> 00:47:57.639
there's no anything to it and posting it to social media,

794
00:47:57.679 --> 00:48:01.039
where you pretty much sand just say that's fake, right,

795
00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:04.480
or you say that's just a red circle in the woods.

796
00:48:04.519 --> 00:48:07.880
If not anything. And I'm sure there's some people out

797
00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:11.119
there with real footage, it's just hard to find. It's

798
00:48:11.119 --> 00:48:11.960
hard to parse through.

799
00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:15.599
So I'm trying to be credible enough to have people

800
00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:19.400
actually say, hey, that's an the credible source to start with.

801
00:48:19.519 --> 00:48:23.239
And then after that, I really don't know, Like I'm

802
00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:26.000
just trying to get to step one and then step two. Hopefully,

803
00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:29.159
if we can get a good amount of evidence or

804
00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:32.920
video that's substantial, you know, maybe we can bring it

805
00:48:33.480 --> 00:48:36.679
and get some research grants in or something, or bring

806
00:48:36.679 --> 00:48:42.320
in some third party reviewers from you know, Jeff meldrumish

807
00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:44.920
kind of person from a college grant. You know, they

808
00:48:44.960 --> 00:48:48.119
actually go sit out there for months at a time. Right,

809
00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:52.159
I don't really know where it goes other than I

810
00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:55.480
kind of just want to prove that it's real and

811
00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:58.119
then keep going and figure out how these things stick

812
00:48:58.199 --> 00:48:58.920
and how they work.

813
00:48:58.960 --> 00:49:01.480
And and you guys, I.

814
00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:04.599
Think in my in my head, this is real. This

815
00:49:04.760 --> 00:49:07.079
is real, right, I know other people are on the fence.

816
00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:10.840
All the experiences I've had, this is this is a.

817
00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:15.159
Real phenomenon, whatever you want to call it. These are

818
00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:20.360
real creatures, real beings, real people. It's really important for

819
00:49:20.440 --> 00:49:22.920
us to do this discovery and like say, this is

820
00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:25.800
something real. You had to flips the.

821
00:49:25.679 --> 00:49:29.360
Paradigm of a lot of people on their head. So

822
00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:31.119
that's kind of why I do it, other than it's

823
00:49:31.159 --> 00:49:35.440
just super cool to me. But yeah, that's that's kind

824
00:49:35.440 --> 00:49:35.960
of my thought.

825
00:49:36.519 --> 00:49:37.559
That's exciting stuff.

826
00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:40.599
Logan, You're you're definitely on on the right path. You

827
00:49:40.599 --> 00:49:43.360
said there were some updates regarding radium as well.

828
00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:49.800
Yeah, so actually, when I talk to you, I don't remember.

829
00:49:50.159 --> 00:49:51.599
I'd have to go back and listen to what we

830
00:49:51.679 --> 00:49:52.159
talked about.

831
00:49:52.239 --> 00:49:54.840
But when I was out.

832
00:49:54.639 --> 00:49:59.159
There in October with a few individuals, we had and

833
00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:02.079
this is a on the app and as far as

834
00:50:02.079 --> 00:50:05.840
when I captured an audio and video and then there's

835
00:50:05.880 --> 00:50:10.199
more to it now. So we had this experience back

836
00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:14.559
in October. I guess I can't remember if I talked

837
00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:17.000
to you about it or not, to be fair, but

838
00:50:17.760 --> 00:50:22.440
we had these individuals come out and like it was

839
00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:27.559
two in the afternoon, we had five of these weird whoop.

840
00:50:27.400 --> 00:50:28.760
Sounds that were.

841
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:32.760
Nothing like I've ever heard before, and it surrounded our

842
00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:35.559
base camp, like from every every angle it went one,

843
00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:38.280
then the other, than the other, than the other. Mail

844
00:50:38.440 --> 00:50:41.440
made that sound right after two minutes before that, and

845
00:50:41.440 --> 00:50:43.119
I have all the timestamp.

846
00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:47.760
This large oowel in the distance. I couldn't say how

847
00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:50.119
far it was. It's the same for giggles. It was

848
00:50:50.159 --> 00:50:50.840
a mile away.

849
00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:55.760
And then that was kind of two minutes after the

850
00:50:55.880 --> 00:50:58.639
response back was all those whoops around us. So we

851
00:50:58.679 --> 00:51:02.760
went out into the woods I'd say at the most

852
00:51:02.800 --> 00:51:06.800
one hundred and fifty yards from base camp and right

853
00:51:06.840 --> 00:51:11.840
now where we went, it's probably fifty yards where I

854
00:51:11.880 --> 00:51:14.440
have a thermal camera setup that's looking down this trail

855
00:51:14.519 --> 00:51:20.119
side and the optical but it's we went out and

856
00:51:20.159 --> 00:51:24.440
set out there and it was me and Todd standing

857
00:51:24.519 --> 00:51:26.159
and then two other individuals.

858
00:51:26.840 --> 00:51:29.519
They were kind of a in a grid pattern.

859
00:51:29.519 --> 00:51:31.639
We're all spread out, just sitting out there after that,

860
00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:34.599
because we heard all those sounds and we're like, okay,

861
00:51:34.639 --> 00:51:37.639
well maybe they're calling us to go.

862
00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:39.400
Go out there and meet and greet. So that's what

863
00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:39.679
we did.

864
00:51:39.760 --> 00:51:41.920
We kind of sat out there and meditated whatever you

865
00:51:41.920 --> 00:51:45.400
want to call it, posted up on a tree and look,

866
00:51:46.079 --> 00:51:48.039
I'm trying to see if we had any interaction.

867
00:51:49.159 --> 00:51:53.400
Sod had this video to where he posted on his

868
00:51:53.559 --> 00:51:56.119
channel to where I'm gonna I'm not gonna lie I did.

869
00:51:56.159 --> 00:51:58.480
It doesn't look good. It looks like a blob squatch,

870
00:51:59.159 --> 00:51:59.920
it looks blurry.

871
00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:05.119
It's not definitive. It's not good evidence, right, And I

872
00:52:05.159 --> 00:52:07.320
mean I told him that. It's like, yeah, I.

873
00:52:08.119 --> 00:52:10.039
Believed him at the time, like I don't have a

874
00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:11.920
reason not to believe him, but at the same time,

875
00:52:12.119 --> 00:52:13.320
it's just not good evidence.

876
00:52:13.760 --> 00:52:16.320
And he posted it, I don't know, some a few

877
00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:20.159
months back, but actually I think he posted back in February.

878
00:52:20.239 --> 00:52:25.119
But at the same time, we were filming with like

879
00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:29.199
cell phones and cameras, body cams, and the individual I

880
00:52:29.320 --> 00:52:31.280
was with was just calling Bill.

881
00:52:32.519 --> 00:52:39.159
He when Todd started talking, he said he said something.

882
00:52:39.639 --> 00:52:42.679
What he said was I can see you, and he

883
00:52:42.760 --> 00:52:45.599
said it loudly, and I looked over at him, and

884
00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:48.280
he was filming in front of him, and he's probably

885
00:52:48.320 --> 00:52:50.960
sixty feet from me. Bill was probably forty feet to

886
00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:51.880
the left of Todd.

887
00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:55.039
And there's another guy named Billy about probably thirty feet

888
00:52:55.079 --> 00:52:55.639
behind Bill.

889
00:52:56.559 --> 00:52:57.880
And we were spread out in the woods.

890
00:52:57.920 --> 00:53:00.000
And again there's no one else out in these woods, right,

891
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:03.679
it's just us. There was another individual at base camp

892
00:53:03.679 --> 00:53:06.599
that was elderly, he's probably seventy three seventy four years old,

893
00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:09.679
that didn't want to go out just because you know,

894
00:53:09.880 --> 00:53:12.920
he's a he's a little older and didn't want.

895
00:53:12.800 --> 00:53:13.559
To help out there.

896
00:53:16.039 --> 00:53:19.159
So what Bill did was he scanned the forest line

897
00:53:19.239 --> 00:53:22.719
right when Todd said that, in front of him. And

898
00:53:23.280 --> 00:53:25.079
I posted this out there to like I said, to

899
00:53:25.119 --> 00:53:31.679
my socials, and I've done some zooming in and contrasts

900
00:53:31.679 --> 00:53:34.679
and some of that stuff with it. But you see

901
00:53:34.880 --> 00:53:38.400
after Todd says that Bill's and this is about seventy

902
00:53:38.400 --> 00:53:39.239
feet in front of him.

903
00:53:41.159 --> 00:53:45.559
It's dark haired. I think it's probably a juvenile somewhere

904
00:53:45.559 --> 00:53:47.119
between eight eleven years old.

905
00:53:47.199 --> 00:53:51.440
Just speculating it. Actually you can't even see it until

906
00:53:51.480 --> 00:53:54.679
it moves. It is so camouflaged in the tree line.

907
00:53:54.760 --> 00:53:57.960
Like, and it moves right.

908
00:53:58.000 --> 00:54:00.320
As it moves, you see it's Harry leg right, you

909
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:03.519
see its foot, you see it's upper torso you kind

910
00:54:03.559 --> 00:54:05.519
of see the outline of its head through the tree

911
00:54:05.559 --> 00:54:09.880
branches as it moves. It's not like a face definitive,

912
00:54:10.679 --> 00:54:16.719
but it's this dark haired, almost black haired individual that's

913
00:54:16.760 --> 00:54:19.679
going from middle of the screen to the left and

914
00:54:19.760 --> 00:54:25.599
stepping out in between these trees and walking as Bill scanning,

915
00:54:25.639 --> 00:54:29.480
and he's getting up right so as Todd saying, he's

916
00:54:29.480 --> 00:54:31.800
filming something in front of him. Thirty feet to the

917
00:54:31.880 --> 00:54:35.199
left of what he's filming is another big foot that

918
00:54:35.280 --> 00:54:36.199
Bill captures.

919
00:54:36.400 --> 00:54:41.000
And it's in my opinion, it's super super good evidence, right,

920
00:54:41.320 --> 00:54:41.840
And I know.

921
00:54:42.559 --> 00:54:44.760
People are gonna look and say, oh, this is coming

922
00:54:44.800 --> 00:54:45.960
out of Todd's camp.

923
00:54:46.400 --> 00:54:48.000
You know, this isn't anything.

924
00:54:50.679 --> 00:54:54.199
It's legitimate footage, and nobody gets like, I haven't seen

925
00:54:54.239 --> 00:54:58.360
good footage in a long time. And that footage it's

926
00:54:58.559 --> 00:55:00.480
it's on a I think it's from an eye iPhone

927
00:55:01.360 --> 00:55:06.079
and it's pretty clear that there is this individual right there.

928
00:55:06.679 --> 00:55:11.199
Supremely camouflage walking mid screen to left.

929
00:55:10.679 --> 00:55:13.199
And as he pans from right to left because he

930
00:55:13.239 --> 00:55:15.480
didn't even see it. It was on camouflage, he didn't

931
00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:17.960
see it untill we reviewed the footage. And this was

932
00:55:18.000 --> 00:55:22.760
actually a month or so later that he discovered they

933
00:55:22.840 --> 00:55:25.079
even had the footage of this right, you didn't even know.

934
00:55:27.199 --> 00:55:31.559
So to me, it's like just another point of data

935
00:55:32.000 --> 00:55:35.559
that substantiates that something. What's happening when Todd saying I

936
00:55:35.559 --> 00:55:40.320
can see you and from my perspective again speculation there

937
00:55:40.360 --> 00:55:41.960
was at least four to five.

938
00:55:41.840 --> 00:55:42.559
Of these.

939
00:55:44.159 --> 00:55:47.400
Fans manage big foot around him and we couldn't see them,

940
00:55:47.480 --> 00:55:47.880
but they.

941
00:55:47.760 --> 00:55:50.880
Can see us, and they were just gliding through the forest,

942
00:55:51.039 --> 00:55:55.119
just messing with us. And like I said, it's it's

943
00:55:55.119 --> 00:55:56.400
out there. I can send it to you.

944
00:55:56.559 --> 00:56:00.360
I can send you the the upscaled version that looms

945
00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:02.719
in and then the I have a video that does

946
00:56:02.719 --> 00:56:04.119
it and on the back end it gives you just

947
00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:07.760
the regular output so you can see it. But yeah,

948
00:56:07.800 --> 00:56:10.159
it's seventy feet in front of a bill, it's moving,

949
00:56:10.440 --> 00:56:16.960
it's maybe six feet tall at the most. We need

950
00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:20.840
to we need to do some more breakdown and do

951
00:56:21.000 --> 00:56:25.119
some video analysis and I think, I think I can probably,

952
00:56:25.880 --> 00:56:28.480
like Bill really wants to try to remove the trees

953
00:56:28.519 --> 00:56:30.840
from the video and try to do things with it, but.

954
00:56:32.840 --> 00:56:33.960
I'm gonna do my best.

955
00:56:33.719 --> 00:56:35.199
To give it a shot to make it as clear

956
00:56:35.239 --> 00:56:40.840
as possible. But it's it's amazing footage, right, Wow.

957
00:56:40.840 --> 00:56:44.920
That's really incredible. And again, this is.

958
00:56:46.800 --> 00:56:49.079
Fifty yards away from where the camera I just set

959
00:56:49.159 --> 00:56:50.639
up in this tree.

960
00:56:50.920 --> 00:56:53.000
We scaled this tree on this trail.

961
00:56:53.840 --> 00:56:56.039
It looks down what we call the Porcupine trail like

962
00:56:56.079 --> 00:57:00.960
twenty feet and we mounted this camera's thermal and optical

963
00:57:01.039 --> 00:57:03.960
there that scans and looks down both into this trail,

964
00:57:04.039 --> 00:57:06.400
and it can slip around and look at base Camp

965
00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:08.719
two and look at the other camera itself. So if

966
00:57:08.760 --> 00:57:10.639
something's behind the other camera, I can see it.

967
00:57:11.519 --> 00:57:12.119
I'm saying.

968
00:57:12.119 --> 00:57:15.480
It's spectical and thermal, so it's just a matter of

969
00:57:15.519 --> 00:57:19.719
time before we get something there. It seems like they're

970
00:57:19.880 --> 00:57:25.199
having a really good year as far as amount of

971
00:57:25.960 --> 00:57:28.440
activity they've had. When I went out there, I can

972
00:57:29.159 --> 00:57:31.519
I don't know how long you want this podcast to be,

973
00:57:31.639 --> 00:57:33.880
but I had experiences out there when I went out

974
00:57:33.880 --> 00:57:35.320
there just to set of the camera.

975
00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:37.159
The video that you were just talking about. Is that

976
00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:40.000
on Tod's channel or you would have to send that

977
00:57:40.079 --> 00:57:40.320
to me.

978
00:57:40.519 --> 00:57:43.360
No, it's on.

979
00:57:45.360 --> 00:57:49.599
Let me see because I've been debating when too, like

980
00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:52.679
just because it's not my footage. So I got permission

981
00:57:52.840 --> 00:57:55.920
from Bill. I got permission from Bill. He's kind of

982
00:57:56.880 --> 00:57:59.639
a real big big Foot enthusiast, but he's a private person.

983
00:57:59.679 --> 00:58:01.199
He doesn't line right.

984
00:58:03.039 --> 00:58:05.480
So I got permission from Bill to release it a

985
00:58:05.480 --> 00:58:08.280
couple of weeks ago. Okay, So I haven't really put

986
00:58:08.280 --> 00:58:12.400
it out there into the full frame you know, read it,

987
00:58:12.599 --> 00:58:15.480
like just dumped it into everything, But.

988
00:58:16.960 --> 00:58:18.000
I I think it.

989
00:58:18.119 --> 00:58:19.800
I think I put it on Instagram and I made

990
00:58:19.800 --> 00:58:23.000
a TikTok and put it out there and just try

991
00:58:23.039 --> 00:58:25.320
to do like a like a promo type of video

992
00:58:25.440 --> 00:58:28.320
for my app, just to got to get people more

993
00:58:28.360 --> 00:58:31.960
interested in get community going. So to me, it's a

994
00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:35.400
great advertising tool because it's real and anyone that says

995
00:58:35.400 --> 00:58:38.239
it's not, I can prove it to them and it's real.

996
00:58:38.280 --> 00:58:42.440
But at the same time, it's I'm using footage and

997
00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:46.440
it's just it's I can send it to you. I

998
00:58:46.440 --> 00:58:48.079
can just send you like what I have, like a

999
00:58:48.679 --> 00:58:50.519
full fledged copy of it. You can check it out

1000
00:58:50.559 --> 00:58:51.360
and tell me what you think.

1001
00:58:51.480 --> 00:58:54.000
That sounds great. We'll link it definitely. I'll have a

1002
00:58:54.000 --> 00:58:56.800
few links in the show notes for this too, or

1003
00:58:56.840 --> 00:59:00.760
the description. Yeah, well so we've got yeah, I mean

1004
00:59:01.199 --> 00:59:03.639
time has been fined by we've got about ten minutes left.

1005
00:59:03.639 --> 00:59:07.519
But it sounds like you you may have even even

1006
00:59:07.599 --> 00:59:10.119
some other things that happened to you when you were

1007
00:59:10.320 --> 00:59:13.119
lasted out in radium.

1008
00:59:13.360 --> 00:59:13.599
Yeah.

1009
00:59:13.679 --> 00:59:18.119
So so we have this gifting area, or I say we,

1010
00:59:18.360 --> 00:59:22.199
but I consider myself part of kind of that collaboration

1011
00:59:22.280 --> 00:59:22.880
up and radium.

1012
00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:25.199
But there's this.

1013
00:59:25.159 --> 00:59:30.199
Gifting area that apples are put out at every time

1014
00:59:30.239 --> 00:59:34.159
there's an expedition. So when I've been in the last

1015
00:59:34.400 --> 00:59:36.079
three or four years, it's kind of hit and miss.

1016
00:59:36.159 --> 00:59:39.599
They kind of take them when they want to. This year,

1017
00:59:39.639 --> 00:59:42.960
they've taken them every single time. Like I was there

1018
00:59:43.079 --> 00:59:46.000
the first night, I got there at seven seven pm

1019
00:59:46.039 --> 00:59:48.320
at night, we put apples out.

1020
00:59:48.360 --> 00:59:50.360
We put three apples out. I was out there with

1021
00:59:50.440 --> 00:59:53.920
two other individuals that went out that was well.

1022
00:59:53.920 --> 00:59:57.519
I was doing some of the setup and we set

1023
00:59:57.599 --> 01:00:00.599
up there and just set and put three apples out,

1024
01:00:00.639 --> 01:00:01.519
once for each of us.

1025
01:00:01.840 --> 01:00:06.639
I'm we put them high. There's news even anything is

1026
01:00:06.679 --> 01:00:09.880
fear as any you know, cheating anything.

1027
01:00:09.360 --> 01:00:12.639
Squirrels, dear whatever you want to call it. But like

1028
01:00:12.800 --> 01:00:15.079
there was no sign of that. And after we put

1029
01:00:15.079 --> 01:00:20.440
the apples out, i'd say thirty minutes post we got

1030
01:00:20.480 --> 01:00:28.400
three callbacks. Three triangulated around us, like they were just

1031
01:00:28.519 --> 01:00:31.559
kind of like yells or whoops, whatever you want to

1032
01:00:31.599 --> 01:00:33.519
call them. I won't try to do it because I'll

1033
01:00:33.559 --> 01:00:36.440
just butcher it. But we had three whoops around us,

1034
01:00:36.639 --> 01:00:40.559
and you can a ticket at the time being for saying, hey,

1035
01:00:40.559 --> 01:00:41.440
thanks for the apples.

1036
01:00:41.480 --> 01:00:44.960
There's three of us and we took all your stuff. Right.

1037
01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:49.000
So when we go back up there in the morning

1038
01:00:49.199 --> 01:00:51.360
and this is again we put it out nine o'clock

1039
01:00:51.360 --> 01:00:52.800
in the night, we wake up kind of early and

1040
01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:54.119
go over there and they're all gone.

1041
01:00:54.199 --> 01:00:57.920
So we had make some good feedback there.

1042
01:00:58.079 --> 01:01:01.920
And then ever since then, all they actually do, starting

1043
01:01:01.920 --> 01:01:05.599
in May to the end of July, they've taken every single.

1044
01:01:05.320 --> 01:01:08.119
Apple they put out there, and they put them high.

1045
01:01:08.199 --> 01:01:10.599
They put them twenty feet in the air on the

1046
01:01:10.679 --> 01:01:13.360
edge of these tree branch sticks where they're just forced

1047
01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:13.880
into it.

1048
01:01:13.920 --> 01:01:14.800
You can't get them out.

1049
01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:18.920
We've seen where squirrels will take bites out of them

1050
01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:21.679
and stuff, and we'll just like those sentences. We know

1051
01:01:21.760 --> 01:01:24.679
it's not, you know, anything but a animal shoe, an honor,

1052
01:01:24.800 --> 01:01:25.760
or bird pecking at it.

1053
01:01:25.800 --> 01:01:26.960
So we'll just throw those away.

1054
01:01:26.960 --> 01:01:29.840
And there's no trace evidence of any of these apples,

1055
01:01:29.880 --> 01:01:31.480
even there's no core, there's no anything.

1056
01:01:31.519 --> 01:01:32.519
They're just gone, right.

1057
01:01:33.199 --> 01:01:36.559
So that's pretty amazing because there's a lot of that

1058
01:01:36.719 --> 01:01:37.159
going on.

1059
01:01:38.760 --> 01:01:40.599
When they did a lot of scouting in the area.

1060
01:01:40.679 --> 01:01:43.639
There's tons in their tree breaks all over the place.

1061
01:01:45.679 --> 01:01:48.400
They found some fresh funt prints in the in the

1062
01:01:48.519 --> 01:01:54.679
general sub area, and they've they've been having activity like

1063
01:01:55.039 --> 01:01:58.199
just frequent, like at least three or four times different things.

1064
01:01:58.280 --> 01:02:02.800
So and I think if you probably want to know

1065
01:02:02.840 --> 01:02:04.679
more on that, you could just probably go just go

1066
01:02:04.760 --> 01:02:06.880
to todg channel and kind and see what he's been saying.

1067
01:02:06.920 --> 01:02:09.719
I won't get into everything, but as far as for me,

1068
01:02:10.960 --> 01:02:12.960
we had that callback, we had the apples, and then

1069
01:02:14.159 --> 01:02:16.360
most people there they don't.

1070
01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:18.639
Do what I do. As far as.

1071
01:02:19.920 --> 01:02:21.719
You can call it recklessness or courage, I don't know

1072
01:02:21.760 --> 01:02:23.400
what you want to call it, but it is their

1073
01:02:23.480 --> 01:02:28.280
country there. It's mountain lions, black bear, grizzly bear. And

1074
01:02:28.920 --> 01:02:31.480
after I set the camera up. I said it. It

1075
01:02:31.519 --> 01:02:33.760
was pretty much a full moon that night, and I

1076
01:02:33.800 --> 01:02:36.960
put it in. I put all my systems to turn

1077
01:02:37.039 --> 01:02:39.559
the hour off and do low mode and just do

1078
01:02:39.639 --> 01:02:43.280
it off the moonlight, so I can make I can

1079
01:02:43.280 --> 01:02:46.639
make these systems with their iris and their shutter look

1080
01:02:46.719 --> 01:02:49.559
like daytime in the night now if there's a moon, right,

1081
01:02:49.639 --> 01:02:52.480
so I don't need ours.

1082
01:02:52.679 --> 01:02:58.039
It's really clear and it looks amazing. So we're debunking

1083
01:02:58.039 --> 01:02:59.519
the ire thing as we speak.

1084
01:02:59.559 --> 01:03:03.239
But I slept out there in front of that camera,

1085
01:03:03.239 --> 01:03:05.400
about thirty feet in front of it in this opening

1086
01:03:05.960 --> 01:03:10.800
with another individual. I can't say it's not creepy, and

1087
01:03:10.840 --> 01:03:14.039
I can't say there's not some level of fear doing that,

1088
01:03:14.119 --> 01:03:17.400
because nine of the people that go out there don't

1089
01:03:17.400 --> 01:03:17.679
do that.

1090
01:03:19.960 --> 01:03:22.119
And it got colder and expected that night.

1091
01:03:22.280 --> 01:03:24.840
I probably got into the thirties and I had a

1092
01:03:24.920 --> 01:03:26.079
zero degree sleeping bag.

1093
01:03:26.280 --> 01:03:28.559
I was just sleeping on the ground, and so was

1094
01:03:28.599 --> 01:03:33.199
the other individual with me. The usually think that we happened.

1095
01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:38.360
Was we heard like a mouth pop while we were

1096
01:03:38.400 --> 01:03:41.480
over there in front of the camera. I ended up

1097
01:03:41.480 --> 01:03:43.719
getting up at six thirty in the morning because I

1098
01:03:43.800 --> 01:03:45.239
needed to warm my body because I didn't know I

1099
01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:47.960
was going to get that cold, so I kind of

1100
01:03:47.960 --> 01:03:50.039
talked to the guy I was with, and you can

1101
01:03:50.239 --> 01:03:51.000
you can see all this.

1102
01:03:51.960 --> 01:03:53.440
If you really wanted to go to it, I'd give

1103
01:03:53.480 --> 01:03:54.159
you the exact gate.

1104
01:03:54.199 --> 01:03:55.920
You can watch me sleep in front of this camera

1105
01:03:55.960 --> 01:03:57.320
because the video is still there.

1106
01:03:57.480 --> 01:03:59.639
It's on the app. You can watch me get up,

1107
01:03:59.679 --> 01:04:04.159
you can want me walk away. But I walk away

1108
01:04:05.000 --> 01:04:10.079
and I go down past base camp, probably two football

1109
01:04:10.079 --> 01:04:14.000
fields away, into this clear opening that's kind of lower

1110
01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:16.840
an elevation on the other side of the ridge line

1111
01:04:16.880 --> 01:04:20.480
that surrounds it. This is where we found a nineteen

1112
01:04:20.480 --> 01:04:22.599
inch track and I kind of I sat there with

1113
01:04:22.840 --> 01:04:26.559
and I did have a shotgun with me because you know,

1114
01:04:26.719 --> 01:04:28.480
I don't want to get eaten by a bear, and

1115
01:04:28.519 --> 01:04:29.199
that single reason.

1116
01:04:29.199 --> 01:04:33.480
They take it with me. But I kind of set

1117
01:04:33.519 --> 01:04:38.840
with my back up to the woodline, kind of giving them,

1118
01:04:39.119 --> 01:04:43.800
you know, some kind of inkling to come behind me

1119
01:04:43.840 --> 01:04:45.920
because I'm not looking in that direction, and in front

1120
01:04:45.960 --> 01:04:48.719
of me is more of an open field for like

1121
01:04:48.760 --> 01:04:51.159
fifty feet then it goes into another woodline. So I

1122
01:04:51.239 --> 01:04:54.800
kind of had my back directly to this woodline and

1123
01:04:55.360 --> 01:04:58.800
I'm sitting there, you know, and I'm I'm not stuper

1124
01:04:58.800 --> 01:05:01.320
into the WU stuff, but you know, I'll give it

1125
01:05:01.360 --> 01:05:04.719
a shot. I put some mental thought process into the

1126
01:05:04.719 --> 01:05:08.559
world and say, you know I'm here, Come come play, right,

1127
01:05:08.639 --> 01:05:14.119
come out. Yes, I'm putting that mental imagery out. I'm

1128
01:05:14.159 --> 01:05:16.679
sitting there and I'm just like I said, on the

1129
01:05:16.679 --> 01:05:21.880
ground kind of Indian style and with my legs and

1130
01:05:22.159 --> 01:05:26.199
all I hear is the ground shake behind me, right,

1131
01:05:26.519 --> 01:05:31.199
So it's just like two big stomps, and I felt it.

1132
01:05:30.800 --> 01:05:33.159
In my body that the ground was shaking, right.

1133
01:05:34.239 --> 01:05:41.800
And before I could even get up, this individual just

1134
01:05:42.119 --> 01:05:46.199
does a scream at me right and just goes I'm

1135
01:05:46.239 --> 01:05:47.599
on a butcher this but it was more of like

1136
01:05:47.719 --> 01:05:53.360
a right and it was loud, and I felt it

1137
01:05:54.039 --> 01:05:57.840
and I kind of got up somewhat quickly, but not

1138
01:05:57.960 --> 01:06:01.119
like super quick as you think I would, because I

1139
01:06:01.119 --> 01:06:03.599
didn't know what would be behind me when I did it.

1140
01:06:03.639 --> 01:06:06.599
And I turned around, spin around, and it's hard to

1141
01:06:06.639 --> 01:06:11.039
see what I'm looking at. You know, there's trees everywhere,

1142
01:06:11.159 --> 01:06:13.880
but about thirty feet in there's something looking at me

1143
01:06:13.920 --> 01:06:15.599
and it's gray and I.

1144
01:06:15.559 --> 01:06:20.960
Can't quite get catch what it is, like, I can't say.

1145
01:06:21.280 --> 01:06:24.159
All I can see is the outline and whatever the

1146
01:06:24.239 --> 01:06:26.880
air fur was gray, right, and it was staring at me,

1147
01:06:26.920 --> 01:06:30.519
and it hits this tree with what it looks to

1148
01:06:30.559 --> 01:06:34.719
be in his arm and bangs on a tree and

1149
01:06:34.840 --> 01:06:37.960
just kind of disappears and steps back into the darkness

1150
01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:41.519
of the foliage. Right, And this is about seven in

1151
01:06:41.559 --> 01:06:45.760
the morning, so the sun's kind of just on the horizon,

1152
01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:48.239
so it's so kind of dark in that wooded part

1153
01:06:48.280 --> 01:06:51.440
because the sun's not directly hitting it. So again I

1154
01:06:51.480 --> 01:06:57.280
can't see fully, but I believe this was a bigfoot

1155
01:06:57.320 --> 01:07:00.000
that yelled. It stomped on the ground twice, yelled at me.

1156
01:07:01.840 --> 01:07:04.119
I don't know why, maybe.

1157
01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:07.239
See anything for it, I don't know it.

1158
01:07:07.320 --> 01:07:09.719
And then and you kind of dissipate it into the forest,

1159
01:07:09.800 --> 01:07:12.360
and then I kind of grabbed my.

1160
01:07:13.840 --> 01:07:15.159
You did bring your bodycam with me.

1161
01:07:15.239 --> 01:07:17.679
I wasn't wearing it at the time, just because I

1162
01:07:17.719 --> 01:07:20.360
was filling myself all night with the other camera and

1163
01:07:20.440 --> 01:07:22.920
I was just kind of going out and doing my

1164
01:07:22.920 --> 01:07:25.920
own thing. But I pulled out my cell phone and

1165
01:07:25.960 --> 01:07:28.159
started to scan in the woods, kind of like build

1166
01:07:28.159 --> 01:07:31.639
it a three six or one eighty degree angle, so

1167
01:07:31.719 --> 01:07:32.960
I just capture what I.

1168
01:07:32.880 --> 01:07:35.360
Experienced and where it was and then I walked back in.

1169
01:07:35.360 --> 01:07:38.960
There and there's this clear tree break, probably five feet

1170
01:07:39.000 --> 01:07:42.800
from where this individual was behind this tree, and I'm

1171
01:07:42.840 --> 01:07:44.880
just looking on the ground looking for you know, traits,

1172
01:07:44.920 --> 01:07:47.320
evidence and stuff, and I don't see anything. I don't

1173
01:07:47.320 --> 01:07:50.599
see footprints or anything, but that's you.

1174
01:07:50.559 --> 01:07:52.920
Know, you don't always find footprints. I don't.

1175
01:07:53.960 --> 01:07:56.119
I was making sure it wasn't crazy, you know, maybe

1176
01:07:56.159 --> 01:07:58.880
this is a huge elk or something. And I was

1177
01:07:58.880 --> 01:08:00.880
trying to look for tracks and stuf. I'm trying to

1178
01:08:00.960 --> 01:08:04.000
roll out us you know in my head that this

1179
01:08:04.199 --> 01:08:06.079
is what I saw and what I heard and what

1180
01:08:06.159 --> 01:08:09.119
I felt. And then I'm kind of I kind of

1181
01:08:09.119 --> 01:08:12.920
just sat there for a while and and and then

1182
01:08:12.960 --> 01:08:16.960
I hear two knocks kind of northeast of me, and

1183
01:08:17.039 --> 01:08:20.239
they were they were subtle, and then I I didn't

1184
01:08:20.239 --> 01:08:21.920
really know what to do if they were gone or

1185
01:08:21.960 --> 01:08:24.800
wanted to me to stay there, So I kind of

1186
01:08:24.800 --> 01:08:27.680
just went back into that open field and sat in

1187
01:08:27.680 --> 01:08:30.319
a different spot and put my back against the woods

1188
01:08:30.359 --> 01:08:34.119
again and just closed my eyes, and I was just

1189
01:08:34.119 --> 01:08:35.000
thinking about stuff.

1190
01:08:35.039 --> 01:08:38.279
And then uh, you get two big huge.

1191
01:08:40.520 --> 01:08:45.800
It's to my right. I guess it would be east

1192
01:08:45.800 --> 01:08:48.880
of me, and it was probably up this hill side.

1193
01:08:49.640 --> 01:08:52.640
I guess I eight maybe one hundred yards up this hillside.

1194
01:08:53.800 --> 01:08:55.520
So I didn't really know what to do with that.

1195
01:08:55.680 --> 01:08:58.199
I know they were around me, I knew they This

1196
01:08:58.359 --> 01:09:02.359
individual yelled at me. So I just sat there for

1197
01:09:02.359 --> 01:09:05.359
thirty minutes until I didn't hear anything happening, and then

1198
01:09:06.039 --> 01:09:10.079
kind of described my, uh, my stuff and the shotgun.

1199
01:09:10.119 --> 01:09:12.720
I went back up to the base camp and went

1200
01:09:12.760 --> 01:09:15.760
and kind of told Todd what happened and the other

1201
01:09:15.760 --> 01:09:19.359
people I was with, And you know, Todd's seeing enough

1202
01:09:19.359 --> 01:09:22.359
of this where pretty much all he says is congratulations.

1203
01:09:22.760 --> 01:09:24.319
So yeah, it.

1204
01:09:24.359 --> 01:09:27.479
Is what it is, right, So I'm getting closer and

1205
01:09:27.520 --> 01:09:35.039
closer to having that one on one experience that I want,

1206
01:09:35.399 --> 01:09:37.239
and I'm trying to put the energy out there.

1207
01:09:37.279 --> 01:09:39.119
If this is they or not, I don't know.

1208
01:09:39.640 --> 01:09:41.720
I'm going out to set all different angles because the

1209
01:09:41.760 --> 01:09:44.159
cameras I put up, I can I can make it

1210
01:09:44.199 --> 01:09:46.159
to where nothing can get into base camp without being

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01:09:46.159 --> 01:09:47.760
on camera, or I can make it to where they

1212
01:09:47.800 --> 01:09:50.680
have a you know, a clear a clear way in, right,

1213
01:09:51.880 --> 01:09:56.279
so all I into the get with the clear if

1214
01:09:56.279 --> 01:09:57.680
they want to come in the base camp, but they

1215
01:09:57.720 --> 01:09:59.399
want to go in front of the cameras they will.

1216
01:10:00.079 --> 01:10:02.560
I don't think these individuals are stupid. I think they

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01:10:02.600 --> 01:10:08.760
know intention and thought process, and they could more than

1218
01:10:08.880 --> 01:10:09.640
likely see.

1219
01:10:09.439 --> 01:10:15.399
These cameras in the trees. So that's kind of my

1220
01:10:15.399 --> 01:10:18.560
My sense and sensibility of the thing is that.

1221
01:10:20.359 --> 01:10:22.000
I do plan on doing more out there.

1222
01:10:22.520 --> 01:10:27.239
I said about putting the thermal further down the road

1223
01:10:27.319 --> 01:10:30.520
towards the hill where the apples are taken. I just

1224
01:10:30.560 --> 01:10:34.079
don't want to stop the activities fully. So eventually we'll

1225
01:10:34.239 --> 01:10:37.319
probably get to that point to where we'll probably have

1226
01:10:37.359 --> 01:10:40.399
another thermal like to in that site, to where we're

1227
01:10:40.399 --> 01:10:43.600
going more of an A one to eighty on the thermal.

1228
01:10:45.159 --> 01:10:49.560
But yeah, it's there's so much stuff. There's I'm calling

1229
01:10:49.600 --> 01:10:53.880
through all the event data. There's lots of weird sounds,

1230
01:10:55.119 --> 01:11:00.399
lots of weird knocks. There's bears that are rolling there

1231
01:11:00.399 --> 01:11:04.800
that we captured. So and this has really only been

1232
01:11:04.880 --> 01:11:07.920
up for like a month, right, It took two three

1233
01:11:07.960 --> 01:11:10.479
months of the first data for the first data to

1234
01:11:10.520 --> 01:11:18.960
actually get like some really good hit marks and like

1235
01:11:19.159 --> 01:11:22.880
and they and they went beside the trailer. They've shooken

1236
01:11:22.960 --> 01:11:29.279
the trailer this year. They've we captured some audio. It's

1237
01:11:29.279 --> 01:11:33.359
like sounds like heavy breathing grunts right beside the trailer

1238
01:11:33.439 --> 01:11:36.359
at night with other audio recorders where the camera wasn't

1239
01:11:36.399 --> 01:11:37.399
even face that direction.

1240
01:11:37.560 --> 01:11:40.560
So again it's it's trucky.

1241
01:11:40.760 --> 01:11:42.560
People have been trying to do this for years now,

1242
01:11:42.600 --> 01:11:44.520
but I'm trying to I'm trying to get it right

1243
01:11:45.399 --> 01:11:49.039
and trying to share it with everyone, right, So yeah,

1244
01:11:49.079 --> 01:11:51.720
that's that's kind of the that's kind of the update

1245
01:11:51.760 --> 01:11:57.439
from Radium. Uh So, I expect it to be very,

1246
01:11:58.039 --> 01:12:03.239
very busy soon. I'm trying to get another panel, solar

1247
01:12:03.239 --> 01:12:05.560
panel out there and another battery already paid for it,

1248
01:12:05.600 --> 01:12:07.119
all with kind of a pain in the butt to

1249
01:12:07.159 --> 01:12:09.000
get things into Canada through customs.

1250
01:12:10.960 --> 01:12:12.439
So there's that aspect.

1251
01:12:12.479 --> 01:12:15.840
But yeah, it's just going to get better from my perspective.

1252
01:12:15.840 --> 01:12:17.800
And then I'm reaching out to a lot of other

1253
01:12:17.920 --> 01:12:22.720
researchers trying to get them to collaborate with me. It's

1254
01:12:22.760 --> 01:12:26.760
hard to win people over, especially if they're in the campup.

1255
01:12:26.800 --> 01:12:29.720
I hate Todd and you work with Todd. That is

1256
01:12:29.720 --> 01:12:32.239
what it is, right, I'm just following the data and

1257
01:12:32.279 --> 01:12:34.760
if people can't, if they just have a closed mind

1258
01:12:34.760 --> 01:12:37.239
to begin with, and you know, to be surround.

1259
01:12:37.239 --> 01:12:40.359
But there are a lot of the original.

1260
01:12:40.000 --> 01:12:43.720
Bigfoot of people that just really despise Todd, and they

1261
01:12:44.560 --> 01:12:46.800
they won't even let me talk to them, right, And

1262
01:12:46.800 --> 01:12:50.680
then I'm not even I'm not Todd, right, So I'm

1263
01:12:50.720 --> 01:12:53.239
just like, Okay, well you're lost, and I'm gonna keep

1264
01:12:53.239 --> 01:12:58.279
going forward with other people that are doing research. So

1265
01:12:58.279 --> 01:13:01.479
so yeah, it's it's a work in progress.

1266
01:13:01.319 --> 01:13:04.399
And logan, I'd say you're doing some fantastic work. I mean,

1267
01:13:04.399 --> 01:13:07.680
you're working, working through everything that you're getting some great

1268
01:13:07.720 --> 01:13:10.159
sites you're getting hooked up with, and I can't wait

1269
01:13:10.199 --> 01:13:13.560
to see what comes out of Pennsylvania. Do you mind

1270
01:13:13.640 --> 01:13:17.399
in the last minutes reminding people how they can reach

1271
01:13:17.439 --> 01:13:20.119
out to you about this project, how they can fall

1272
01:13:20.159 --> 01:13:23.359
along and watch the video for themselves, all that good stuff.

1273
01:13:25.279 --> 01:13:25.880
Yeh sure.

1274
01:13:26.720 --> 01:13:28.359
I think the easiest way to reach out to me,

1275
01:13:28.640 --> 01:13:30.600
and you don't have to subscribe to the app, is

1276
01:13:30.640 --> 01:13:34.359
just download the app. I have a contact info on there.

1277
01:13:34.479 --> 01:13:37.479
There's there's social media links right at the bottom. So

1278
01:13:37.479 --> 01:13:38.840
if you really just want to check it out and

1279
01:13:38.880 --> 01:13:42.119
look at it and look at the precursor of kind

1280
01:13:42.159 --> 01:13:44.560
of the background and stuff, what the login screen, you

1281
01:13:44.600 --> 01:13:48.119
can just get to me from there. It's on Android,

1282
01:13:48.119 --> 01:13:50.840
it's on iOS, it's called Bigfoot livestream.

1283
01:13:52.039 --> 01:13:52.920
In it sooner or later.

1284
01:13:53.199 --> 01:13:55.159
I'm kind of a new age in that sense to

1285
01:13:55.159 --> 01:13:58.279
where I don't know why I need a website, but

1286
01:14:00.399 --> 01:14:03.239
I'm kind of a technology guy, and if I can

1287
01:14:03.279 --> 01:14:04.920
get to it on an app, I'd rather get to

1288
01:14:04.960 --> 01:14:05.600
it on an app.

1289
01:14:06.319 --> 01:14:07.680
But I will have a website.

1290
01:14:08.199 --> 01:14:10.239
I'll just I'll just get one built and put it

1291
01:14:10.239 --> 01:14:11.520
out there into the world.

1292
01:14:11.600 --> 01:14:16.039
But you can. I did. I did create a TikTok.

1293
01:14:16.359 --> 01:14:20.960
I think it's like Bigfoot dot live, dot stream, but

1294
01:14:21.039 --> 01:14:23.039
the other socials are on the app. I just haven't

1295
01:14:23.039 --> 01:14:25.000
had it added to TikTok to it yet.

1296
01:14:25.680 --> 01:14:31.359
So YouTube, there's uh, Facebook and Instagram. But as far

1297
01:14:31.399 --> 01:14:37.479
as email goes, contact at Bigfoot livestream dot org. Just

1298
01:14:38.279 --> 01:14:42.159
you send me an email if you have uh, you know,

1299
01:14:42.239 --> 01:14:47.880
ideas or collaboration stuff or a site or honestly just uh,

1300
01:14:49.359 --> 01:14:53.239
I'm open just to ideas or feedback or criticism of

1301
01:14:53.479 --> 01:14:56.159
how we're doing stuff right, because there's always better ways

1302
01:14:56.159 --> 01:14:56.760
to do things.

1303
01:14:57.239 --> 01:14:57.720
There's a lot of.

1304
01:14:57.680 --> 01:15:00.000
People have a lot of great ideas, so I'm not

1305
01:15:00.159 --> 01:15:04.439
shut off to any of that. So and then let

1306
01:15:04.479 --> 01:15:07.079
me think if there's anything else here. Oh, I do

1307
01:15:07.199 --> 01:15:10.520
have a form on the app where you can go

1308
01:15:11.560 --> 01:15:15.199
just like a web form if you have an area

1309
01:15:15.199 --> 01:15:18.239
of frequency, and it'll shoot me an email if you

1310
01:15:18.279 --> 01:15:21.319
fill the form out, I'll get in touch with you

1311
01:15:21.520 --> 01:15:23.920
if you feel that you want to do that.

1312
01:15:24.439 --> 01:15:33.079
I'm trying to It's not set in stone, but I

1313
01:15:33.119 --> 01:15:38.439
am actively trying to do like kind of a live

1314
01:15:38.479 --> 01:15:42.239
event with uh, kind of a big name in bigfoot.

1315
01:15:42.439 --> 01:15:46.800
I respect him a lot. It's like I said, it's

1316
01:15:46.840 --> 01:15:48.800
not sentence stone yet. Oh, it's a lot of more

1317
01:15:48.840 --> 01:15:52.159
respected people in the field. And you know he's he's

1318
01:15:52.239 --> 01:15:56.479
pretty honest integer and it's full of integrity. So I

1319
01:15:56.600 --> 01:15:59.199
really love to work with him and kind of collaborate

1320
01:15:59.239 --> 01:16:01.720
with him and try try to build something with him

1321
01:16:01.760 --> 01:16:02.520
on the side here.

1322
01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:06.319
But like I said, not settence down. Just stuff that's

1323
01:16:06.359 --> 01:16:07.079
going on in the mix.

1324
01:16:08.399 --> 01:16:11.439
Great, great stuff, Logan. The future is looking very bright

1325
01:16:11.720 --> 01:16:14.239
for you and your project. I'm sure we'll definitely be

1326
01:16:14.279 --> 01:16:16.600
in touch. Thank you so much for coming on the

1327
01:16:16.640 --> 01:16:20.199
show again. It has been a pleasure chatting with you today.

1328
01:16:20.199 --> 01:16:20.520
Logan.

1329
01:16:22.239 --> 01:16:24.279
Yep, appreciate it. Good stuff.

1330
01:16:24.399 --> 01:16:25.800
I just want to take a minute to say thank

1331
01:16:25.840 --> 01:16:28.640
you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast.

1332
01:16:28.880 --> 01:16:32.439
Huge thanks to Logan Shasso for sharing updates about how

1333
01:16:32.479 --> 01:16:35.680
he's continuing to push the boundaries of bigfoot research with

1334
01:16:35.760 --> 01:16:39.720
real technology and some serious courage. If you enjoyed this conversation,

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01:16:39.840 --> 01:16:42.319
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01:16:56.079 --> 01:16:59.600
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1342
01:16:59.760 --> 01:17:01.279
or some when you know us, had a big foot encounter,

1343
01:17:01.359 --> 01:17:05.439
especially in places like the Alleghany National Force in Pennsylvania, Radium,

1344
01:17:05.880 --> 01:17:08.720
British Columbia, or anywhere in the backwoods of North America,

1345
01:17:08.840 --> 01:17:10.640
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1346
01:17:10.640 --> 01:17:12.800
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1347
01:17:12.880 --> 01:17:15.720
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1352
01:17:29.039 --> 01:17:31.680
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1353
01:17:31.720 --> 01:17:33.279
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