Sasquatch of Prince of Wales Island, Alaska

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If they catch you in the forest, they will kill you and eat you.

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And a lot of natives believe that
that particular triump of bigfoot are responsible

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for people disappearing in like national forests. Welcome back to Bigfoot Society. In

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this episode, we talk to Alex, a retired Salvation Army pastor who served

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in Clook, Alaska on Prince of
Wales's Island. Why are the Sasquatch so

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much more aggressive on Prince of Wales's
Island? And what did Alex see in

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his window that one night as a
seven year old? Find out this and

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more on this episode of Bigfoot Society. I've got the privilege of chatting with

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Alex, and Alex is a retired
Salvation Army pastor that served in Alaska.

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How are you doing tonight, Alex? Doing well yourself? Oh, I'm

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doing great, Just hanging out on
a nice Iowa night. Alex, How

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are you doing doing well? Just
enjoying this Montana whether it's a little cold,

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little bit snow snowy out here,
but it's nice. Oh. You

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know, I've talked to a few
from Montana, and I know we're not

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talking about Montana tonight, but man, there's some crazy Montana Bigfoot things happening.

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It's wild, yeah, state.
I've heard some stuff. I've heard

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a couple of stories from and I've
had the privilege to meet a few of

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the Crow and Cheyenne people and I've
had a chance to chat with them about

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Bigfoot, and I've heard some pretty
pretty crazy stories about it. But tonight,

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Alex, we are here to first
chat about I met you on TikTok

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for a little bit of context,
and you and you've you've had some interesting

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things happen during your time in Alaska
and also some interesting things you've heard as

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well, and I would love to
have you share those with my listeners tonight.

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If you don't mind, I don't
mind. Let's just get started.

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I went to the Salvation Army there, I was stationed there. I was

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a pastor. I would be what
you would call a lay pastor, which

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in their rank. The Salvation Army
has quasile army ranks, so like the

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officers are called captains or lieutenants or
majors, and I, as a lay

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pastor, wasn't one of those,
so I would have been called an envoy,

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so that would have been my title. But I ran the Clock Church

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from June of two thousand and ten
to June of two thousand and twelve.

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And the really crazy part is when
I first went there, I didn't know

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anything about southeast Alaska. I didn't
know anything about Prince of Wales Island where

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Clok is located. Cloke and Prince
of Wales are about three hours by ferry

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south of Ketchikan, southeast of Ketchikan, and they are about forty five minutes

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by plane, and the only way
to get get out to the island is

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either buy a ferry boat or plane. So when I got off the boat,

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I met the captains who were who
were leaving. They were the ones

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who'd been running the church the past
few years, and they were leaving and

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moving on to Wrangel, Alaska.
As soon as I got in the van,

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the captain, without knowing me or
knowing anything, says to me.

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He said, Alex, let me
tell you something. He said that this

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is something you'll need to know.
He said that the people here take bigfoot

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very seriously, like dead serious.
He said, they'll talk to you about

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Bigfoot. If you make fun of
bigfoot, or if you make light of

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it. He said, you'll offend
people in the community, and he said,

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you'll never you will have a really
hard time in this community. It'll

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cause hard feelings. Never knew this
guy, never met him, never discussed

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bigfoot, didn't know anything about anything. And the instant I get in the

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van, that's the first thing he
tells me. He said that these folks

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are really serious about Bigfoot here on
Prince of Wales and so I just thought

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that was crazy right from the gate. You know, because generally, if

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you walk up someone you've never met
and tell them that you know Bigfoot is

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real and that the people in the
local area take bigfoot very seriously, you

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might get one of two responses,
well okay, or you know something.

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A lot of skeptics will be derisive. They'll be nasty or negative or make

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sarcastic comments. And Captain Ron said
very clearly, don't do that here.

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And he said, if they talk
to you about Bigfoot, just smile,

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listen to what they say, and
just say thank you for letting me know,

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and don't blow it off. So
that was my introduction to Bigfoot on

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Prince of Wales Island. I knew
bigfoot was real because I had an experience

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with it when I was a kid. I actually saw one looking in my

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window. Was now buy no Bigfoot
back in nineteen seventy eight in the Hood

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River, Oregon, so I knew
Bigfoot was real. They didn't have to

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tell me about it. But Captain
Ron didn't know me from Adam, didn't

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know anything about Bigfoot, didn't know
about you know, my history with Bigfoot.

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But so I learned right away that
the people on Prince of Wales are

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the people that I interacted with were
the clinkt the Haida, and the Simschian,

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and there were even some you pick
folks and you pick or my tribe.

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My father on my father's side,
his mother was you pick Alaska Native.

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As I was going along there and
doing my duties in the Salvation Army,

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I had people sharing reports with me
and things like that. But one

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of the things that particularly impressed me
about them is I was told by one

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of their culture bearers. Now I
don't have permission to use her name,

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so I won't, but she told
me their stories about Bigfoot, and they

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believe in the Clinkett tribe, at
least in clock. I don't know about

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the Clinkett tribe in general, because
I had very limited interactions with Clinketts from

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outside of Clock, that they believed
that Bigfoot led their people to what it's

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now Clock, and that it showed
them how to hunt, and that big

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Foot showed them how to live on
the island. And so they actually have

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Bigfoot in their family history, really
in their clan history. One of the

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tribes in particular, especially the one
this one was with. If I tried

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to pronounce her tribal name, I
would completely slaughter it. So I'm really

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not going to try to, but
suffice it to say that Bigfoot is a

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part of that tribe, and it's
in the name of their tribe, their

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particular tribe or tribe in the Clinkett
nation, and so I thought that was

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very interesting. I really didn't meet
anybody in to Wok or Prince of Wales

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who hadn't either had a sighting directly
or knew someone in their immediate family who

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had a sighting. And I talked
to many different people out there in the

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Clinkets. Now on Clock there's a
bit of a thing because a lot of

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people think that this Kushtika is a
big Foot. Now from what I was

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told by a tribal elder from saxman, which is in Ketchikan. He said

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that the Kushtika is like a is
like the skin walker. It's an evil

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spirit of shape shifter. And in
Clinkett Kushtika means land otterman exactly, and

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so it's it's very interesting. But
according to Captain Joe and some of the

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elders from when we had celebration in
Clook one year, they had a gathering

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of the other Clinkets from around southeast
Alaska and they all came and they were

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saying that the tribal elders from several
of the different areas like in you know,

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Juneo and some of the other cities
around in southeast Alaska like Sitka and

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some of the other places, they
said the coush Deka is not a bigfoot.

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They said it's an evil spirit or
a spirit, and it can be

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benevolent or harmful depending on its feelings
at the time. But they said it's

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not biological. It's never been human, and it doesn't have children, it

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doesn't reproduce, and it doesn't you
know, propagate or do anything that the

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bigfoot do. And so anyway,
now the folks in clock do call bigfoot

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Coushtka and they believe that Coushtka is
a Bigfoot. But I know when I

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know wh like I said, meeting
with the other tribal elders, they felt

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differently about it. So I'll just
say that it is what it is,

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but that that was the understanding that
I had from different folks. The funny

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thing though about this Kushka, though, is this tribal elder from Saxman told

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me that they're always seen with orbs
and spiritual phenomenon and they're the things that

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people see the travel inner dimensionally.
And he said that they can appears as

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bigfoot, they can take on the
form of Bigfoot, but he said they're

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not bigfoots. And he said that
he feels and this was his opinion that

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a lot of the people who see
like quote unquote UFOs or orbs or other

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spiritual phenomenon with bigfoot are actually seeing
a shape shifter. And that's that's what

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he said, because he said that
what the Kushtka is so and what again,

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whether that's true or not, I
don't know. I'm not a clinkt

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I don't speak for them. I
can only tell you what their triblowders told

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me, Alex, I've got a
quick question for you that that is extremely

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fascinating, and nodded. I was
not expecting any of that at all.

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Um, when you said spiritual phenomenon, right, or phenomena? You said

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orbs and spiritual phenomena? What what
else would fall into that category. One

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person related to me a sighting of
the scoushtaka um in Ketchikan, and they

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said that it hit You've seen the
movie Predator, right, sure, how

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the Predator goes invisible? They said, it did that really acushticacousta. And

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they said that it looked like like
a part order part man is what they

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said. But they said it shifted
into like a fish and jump into the

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water like a salmon, like a
really large salmon and jump into the water.

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But they said that it had orbs
floating around it, and it said

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that the orbs were glowing different colors. And I think that actually, and

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I'm not saying all UFO phenomenon,
but I think some of the UFO phenomenon

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associated with big Foot are actually the
spiritual orbs that these shape shifters are able

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to manifest. And my understanding is
they can actually travel in between dimensions is

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what they tell me. So I
think that when people see a big foot

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that's traveling interdimensionally, I don't think
that's a big foot. And it's not

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only them that say that. I've
talked to Navajo, Zoonies, Hopies,

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Sue, I've talked to Crow,
I've talked to Cheyenne, I've talked to

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Utes. I know as a u
Pick person, we have a legend of

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the Amakok, which is the same
type of creature. It's it's also associated

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with spiritual phenomenon like orbs appearing and
disappearing, like you would follow the footprints

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of it, for example, and
it would go on a straight line,

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and it would travel for so long
and then it would just stop and it

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has nowhere to go. Have you
ever been talked to any individuals by the

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unto basin part of Utah? I
have not, to my knowledge, No,

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I have not in that that's the
Skinwalker Ranch. Just a random thing

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I wanted to throw in there just
in case. But but it's just very

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interesting to me about all these different
things. But like the actual bigfoot in

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Prince of Wales are different here than
I think in the lower forty eight because

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they now I've heard a big foot
doing this in other places, but I've

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never actually seen it personally. In
Clock and in Heidelberg and Cassan and Thorne

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Bay and Whale Pass and Kaufman Cove
and some of the other cities on Prince

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of Wales, they've actually been witnessed
by locals the big Foot, the real

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Bigfoot, not the coushtaka, the
actual, honest to God Sasquatchum. They've

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been observed pulling trees up by the
roots out of the ground that are like

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alive, pulling them out of the
ground and then turning them upside down and

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shoving them like three to four feet
into the ground with the roots facing up

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towards the sky. Stay tuned from
our Bigfoot society will be right back after

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these messages. And the Clinkett Older
has told me they do that to mark

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their territory and that if you see
that, you know that's their territory and

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you're supposed to leave and not go
around there, because they said if you

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do, they'll they'll get really aggressive
with you. They'll throw rocks, they'll

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throw sticks, But if you don't
leave, then there's actually been reports of

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them like grabbing a hold of people
and throwing them against trees and hurting them

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and stuff like that. Credible reports
from people who are like police officers,

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former military, you know, people
who aren't known in the community to be

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liars, hoaxeres or storytellers. They
don't use drugs or alcohol. They're not

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mentally incapacitated or ill. They're just
people who saw something really crazy that they

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couldn't explain. How many toes do
the Bigfoot have on each foot in that

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area? Do you know the track
I saw? I had? Five?

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Okay? Do you know if there's
any is it talked about in that area

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of certain individuals I've heard or four
toasd I've heard of was four to big

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foot? Okay, so you know
what I'm about. I do. I

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also heard they were reddish in color, and they were smaller than the regular

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big Foot, and they were like
way more aggressive. This is what I

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was so, Alex, this is
world, this is wild. Yeah,

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they are hyper hyper aggressive. Um. They are actually called cannibal. If

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they catch you in the forest,
they will kill you and eat you.

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And a lot of natives believe that
that particular trip of Bigfoot are responsible for

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people disappearing in like National Forests and
stuff like that in Alaska, and it's

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just it's really really interesting stuff.
And by it's really funny because science is

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always saying there's no evidence for Bigfoot
and things like that, and yet you

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have native tribes who I personally interacted
with in Canada, like the o Jubois

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and others um and you would you
know, some of the other First nations

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in Canada who are geographically separated from
you know, these other natives than like

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the south southwest head of the US
like in uh, the Navajo in like

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Arizona and New Mexico and places like
that. And yet they have the same

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legends of the same creatures and they
have them right alongside eagle bear, you

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know, horse beaver, you know, scorpion snake, and you know they're

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actually reporting on creatures that they see
in real life. The two natives.

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Bigfoot is as real as you and
I. And you know, they're always

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they're always like they always think it's
funny, the natives I've talked to,

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because I'll talk to them about Bigfoot
and they're like, oh, the white

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man believes in that now, huh. You know, it's like we've been

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knowing about that for years old news
to us. We're we're dealing with this

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for years. They're like, these
white scientists come around here looking for Bigfoot

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and we tell them they're stupid,
and I'm like, okay, why,

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And they said, because if Bigfoot
wants to find you, he'll find you.

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You don't find Bigfoot, he finds
you, you know, and stuff

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like that. So they I know, I know that the Clink has told

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their kids to stay out of the
forest and rust they're together, and to

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be careful when they're walking in the
woods, to use the buddy system,

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and to make sure that they're always
watching the area that they live in,

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especially if those those weird red reddish
colored hair colored Sasquatcher running around. So,

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Alex, the crazy thing is is
that and I have to be really

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careful about what I say. But
I talk to a lot of people,

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and all the things you said about
those those four toad big I've heard from

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at least one other person in another
state, not Alaska. And it's not

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just like you are absolutely right,
because I've heard this same almost details told

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that they happen, even down to
pulling up the tree by the roots and

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putting it upside down and That's all
I can say right now. It's just

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incredible how you your story had so
many similarities. Do you think does that

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four toad tribe is in different states
or just in the Pacific Northwest, or

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I think they emigrated across the lamp
bearing straight land bridge, the same as

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the other big foots. Sure,
I'm almost wondering, based on the descriptions

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that people have given me, if
maybe they're not some throwback to the orangutan

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or something of Some of the people
I've heard described them in a way that

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almost makes them sound like orange orangutans. And it's also interesting because a lot

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of people they think orangutans or these
you know, common peaceful apes, and

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yet orangutans will grab a hold of, you know, other animals, ripped

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them apart and eat them, you
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you know, that's That's just the
thing is that I've heard a lot of

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bad reports and from what I understand
this that red haired tribe. I know,

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there was some tribe. I was
talking to a guy who was Hoopa

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and he said, there's oma omar
or Omah, and he said that means

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the boss of the woods, like
the boss the king of the woods,

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the owner of the woods, the
leader of the woods, or whatever.

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He said. The Omas are different
than those guys. And he said that

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the Olmah will leave you alone if
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the four toes, and he had
a name for them, but I do

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not. I could not pronounce it. I'm very sorry. I guess my

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linguistic skills are a little weird.
But um, he pronounced it, and

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my ear and my mouth just could
not. My brain and my mouth could

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not coordinate to form the words.
No problem. If any listeners of that

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name, feel free to send me
an email at big Foot Society at gmail

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dot com. So much stuff I
learned in clock. And then there's my

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own sighting clock. I didn't actually
have a personal sighting because I was distracted,

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um during the event that happened.
Um, if you want, I'll

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get into my sighting real quick about
and other stuff after if you like it

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or not, sure, Okay.
My brother Morgan and my sister Tara.

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My brother Morgan passed away three years
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still alive because he could tell you, like what he saw and some of

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the stuff he observed that I didn't
observe um during the event. But what

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happened was we were we were going
up Big Salt Road, Big Salt Lake

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Road in uh In. That's a
road that leads from from clock to Thorne

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Bay or two Kaufman Cove if you
if you go right, you go to

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Thorn Bay. If you go left, you go to Kaufman Cove. So

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I turned left on Prince of Wales
Island Road and we were heading towards Kaufman

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Cove, which is where we were
going to go and visit. It's really

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pretty out there. There's a pebble
beach and it's really nice, and I

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wanted to take my brother and sister
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And so anyway, we get about
a quarter of a mile half a mile

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or so up up up the road
Prince of Wales Island Road, and my

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brother's diabetic, so he's like,
Alex, can you stop. I got

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to use the restroom, and so
I'm looking for a place to pull off

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and I see what it looked like. It was either like an old logging

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road or something. I'm not sure, but it was like it looked like

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at one time it had been a
logging road that it hadn't been used in

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a while, and so we pulled
off into there and he gets out and

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he's urinating, and then he comes
back around the corner and he goes,

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hey, Alex, come here,
and I'm like, what, man,

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it's cold, you know, it's
April. It's it's cold. There's snow

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on the ground. I don't want
to get out, you know. But

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he's like, come here, you
need to look at this. And so

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I'm like okay, and I get
out and he calls me over. I

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walk over to him and in a
snow bank, there were three tracks and

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the tracks were about i'd say roughly
about five feet apart, and they were

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in a straight line, which is
weird, you know, because when people

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walk, they walked, you know, side by side with their feet,

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you know what I mean. These
look like somebody who was balancing on a

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tie rope or something. It was
weird. But there was three tracks,

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and they were in the snow.
The ground was hard, so it didn't

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leave like it did leave an impression, but it didn't leave like like a

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deep impression. The tracks were about
I I were a size fourteen tripoli and

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these were a couple inches longer than
mine. So I'd say about a sixteen

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or a seventeen, and it's its
feet were wider than mine. Somebody asked

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me about how big I thought it
was, and I'll tell you what.

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I am not a math person,
Okay, math is actually my worst subject.

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So I say, well, I
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When I told Morgan that, he
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I was like, he was like, those things were like six seven inches

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apart and there were seven six seven
inches wide. It's like they're not three

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to four inches, you idiot,
you know. And he was the best

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namby. So that's that's one of
the reasons why I was glad he was

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there, because I have I have
a real problem with like looking at something

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and reckoning how big it is,
you know, and he doesn't. Morgan

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is very math articles he you know, was very logical and factual, and

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so he guess the shoe was a
sixteen or a seven. It would have

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been if it were wearing shoes,
the foot would have been like a sixteen

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or a seventeen. And it was
wider than my tripoli. And so we're

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looking at it and we're like,
Morgan had pictures of it, but unfortunately,

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when he passed away, the pictures
were lost and I don't have any

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photos left of him. But the
other part was we got chased out before

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we could do any measurement or anything, because he was like he told me,

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said, why don't you do that
big foot screen that you do?

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And so I did it, and
I'm not going to do it right now

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because it would like blow our audio
out, but it's it's just a basic

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screen. I did that, and
then about twenty thirty in I don't know

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seconds later, something grabs ahold of
a big old tree and starts shaking that

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sucker back and forth. It was
whipping it back and forth, and that

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was a good sized tree. Whatever
was grabbing ahold of that tree, it

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was monstrously strong, monstrously strong.
And then like we start hearing like you

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know, branches breaking and stuff like
that. And then off to my right,

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i'd say, about ten or twenty
feet away, I hear a wha,

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and then again it goes real loud
and aggressive. Just like that scared

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the living piss out of me.
And whatever vocalization that thing was doing,

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I could feel it in my body. It resonated in my body, you

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know what I mean. And it
was like, I was like, we

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need to get the hell out of
here now. And then so we all

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jump in the van, get out, peel out of there, and I

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head straight back to the church.
I'm done. You know, I saw

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a big foot when I was a
kid. You know, it'd be interesting

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to see another one. But let's
not and say we did, right.

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But when we get back, Morgan
tells me he actually saw one peeking its

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head out from behind a tree.
He said it was it had it had

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a very large head, he said
it had. It was black. The

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skin on the face was black,
and the hair was black, and it

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had like brownish eyes. And he
said he saw it for about a second

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or two and it popped back behind
the tree. And he said it was

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probably about seven day feet off the
ground on where the head was. And

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that's pretty much the experience we had
with that. Now, I went back

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and I talked to one of the
Clinkett elders. His name is al Jackson,

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and I actually do have permission to
use his name on Prince of Wales.

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They call him mister Bigfoot. Whenever
anybody in any of the tribes has

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a big foot sighting, they go
and tell Al Jackson about it. Anyway,

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he was featured on the show Monsters
and Mysteries in Alaska. They actually

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interviewed him for that. That was
I don't remember what year that was.

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Was twenty eleven, two thousand and
twelve, two thousand and ten, I

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can't remember. But anyway, he
was on that show and they interviewed him,

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and he took him up there up
on Clok Mountain where those upside down

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trees are and he showed the guy
and the guy actually took pictures of him

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and videoed him. And the thing
that's weird about those trees on Clok there's

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no rope marks, chain marks,
nothing, And that's that's not something that's

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you know, like a flood or
something happened. Stay tuned from our Bigfoot

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Society will be right back after these
messages and you know, or a windstorm

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and that just happened because there's actually
out in that area. There's a bunch

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of them, and you know they're
in kind of weird places. But like,

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um, if you see those and
you're out in the foresting in in

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uh near Clock Mountain, if you
see those or around Clock or Heidelberg.

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If you see those trees, you're
supposed to leave the area and not go

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near there. You're not supposed to
hunt there, you're not supposed to fish

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there, and you're not supposed to
go around there. And the elders also

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said that if you see a big
foot out there, they said, don't

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look them in the face, because
they take it like you're trying to challenge

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them. And they said, don't
look at in the eye, to look

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down to your right or your left, and they said just back away slowly.

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And there's just so many stories I
heard about Bigfoot. It's it's just

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crazy. I mean, I never
met a people who were so open to

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share their culture and their stories and
their traditions with an outsider to their tribe,

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because they would just tell you stuff. I mean, and they didn't

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like try to hide it or you
know, it wasn't they had stories that

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they wouldn't tell people, obviously,
but like if it was about Bigfoot or

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about their clans or their totems or
you know, the stuff they believe in

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spiritually, they tell you all about
it. You know. We we have

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a lady who was a culture bearer, who was a good friend of my

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wife and I we used to go
over there and listen to r Kell tales

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about their creation stories. And it's
kind of funny because their stories are very

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similar to other tribal stories I've heard
about creation. Did those stories have anything

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to do with Bigfoot? Absolutely?
Really, he's one of the big feet,

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one of the big people in their
in their belief system. I don't

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want to say mythology, because sure
it's actually real. They actually talk about

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stuff that they really observe about in
nature. Now, you know, people

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will take it or believe it or
disbelieve it. To a skeptic, everything's

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a dude in a suit, or
you know, a misidentified black bear or

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brown bear or something like that,
because to a skeptic, no amount of

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evidence other than a physical body.
Well, even if you brought them a

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physical body, they might not accept
it as evidence. You know, they

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might say, oh, people just
made that. That's stupid. To a

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person who really doesn't want to hear
the subject, there's nothing you can say

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to convince them that, you know, to a skeptic, everything's a dude

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in the suit. And I told
a skeptic one time, I told him,

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I said, so if everybody's a
dude in the suit. You're telling

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me that these there's some society of
hoaxers who've been jumping out on Native Americans

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since time immemorial. You're in North
America, Alaska, China, Russia,

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Asia, you know, Australia.
You know there's a society of hoaxers around

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the world who are wearing suits and
jumping out in monkey suits and people for

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the last thousand, two thousand and
three thousand hour many years. You know

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what I mean? I said,
either that's what you're saying it has to

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be, or there is actually a
real living creature that's out there right now

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today we're roaming the forests of different
countries around around the world and people are

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seeing it and either they're all liars
and hoaxers, or it's true and there's

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something to it. Now, do
I believe every single bigfoot story? Now?

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I do not. But you can
usually tell if somebody's really had a

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big Foot sighting because they have tells, you know what I mean. One

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of the things that I watch people
is their eyes. People who've really seen

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something, you can see it in
their eyes. You know what I mean?

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What is it that's not seeing their
eyes? Trauma Yep, somebody who's

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really seen a big foot up close
and personal. Not you know, somebody

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who's seen it, like, you
know, seventy five hundred yards away,

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and they're looking at it through a
scope or pair of binoculars or something.

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I'm talking about like somebody like me, as a kid who saw an albino

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bigfoot looking in his window and was
three to four feet from it. You

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know. But like I said to
a skeptic, everything's a et in a

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suit or a bear. You mentioned
how you've seen the look of trauma in

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someone who's actually seen a big foot
up close. Is that a look that

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you would see often in that clock
area people who had an up close and

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personal experience. Yes, yeah,
absolutelylutely. It changes you and also shreds

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your brain. Imagine as a seven
year old kid looking out your window and

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seeing something looking in at you that
science, religion, and all the other

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people out there say doesn't exist.
In one fell swoop, your brain now

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questions everything, because if Bigfoot exists, nothing is off the table. Because

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I've heard as a kid growing up, I'd heard stories about bigfoot, But

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I put that in the same place
as unicorns, trolls, elves, you

404
00:36:40.519 --> 00:36:49.559
know, rainbow right stuff, you
know that kind of stuff. Okay,

405
00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:52.320
that's where I put bigfoot. But
when you look out your window and you

406
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:59.800
see one of those suckers looking in
at you, you're done that change.

407
00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:07.239
Literally. They actually have done brain
scans on people who've passed polygraphs and stuff

408
00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:17.760
for bigfoot, and they have a
different response in their brain to processing information

409
00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:23.119
than people who have not seen one. And they have a strong trauma response

410
00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:34.480
when they talk about it, and
that is something you can't fake. I

411
00:37:34.480 --> 00:37:38.480
mean people, if somebody tells me
they've seen a bigfoot, I just look

412
00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:45.039
them in the eye, and I
do if they're smiling, if they're laughing,

413
00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:47.440
you know, if they're just like, you know, not taking it

414
00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:52.320
seriously. I don't listen to anything
they say. I saw a guy who

415
00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:58.360
was a Navy seal. I kid
you, not a guy I met who

416
00:37:58.440 --> 00:38:04.320
was a Navy seal. Okay,
he had his d two fourteens, his

417
00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:07.599
military ID, all of that.
He told me. He said, I

418
00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:12.920
was a Navy seal and he said
seeing an fffing bigfoot changed my life forever,

419
00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:15.119
he said, Because now, he
said, I used to go on

420
00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:19.719
the forest all the time. I
used to hunt Fishpike. I can't do

421
00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:24.480
that anymore, he said, because
that scared me so bad, he said,

422
00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:30.320
He said, I was in Vietnam. He said, I faced every

423
00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:34.079
type of human and the animal that
you can show me said. I fought

424
00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:37.239
bears, I fought people. He
said, I fought wolves, tigers,

425
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:42.920
lions, all kinds of stuff.
And he said, there's nothing that scared

426
00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:47.679
me like that Bigfoot. And for
a guy who was a Navy seal to

427
00:38:47.719 --> 00:38:52.440
say something like that, that's telling
you something about Bigfoot. Did you mention

428
00:38:52.519 --> 00:38:59.559
where he had seen that bigfoot area? Yea near Pike's Peak in Colorado.

429
00:38:59.639 --> 00:39:05.239
Do you feel like so? The
first thing is you know you in that

430
00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:10.679
Klook area everyone has either seen or
knows someone that has seen Bigfoot. Is

431
00:39:10.719 --> 00:39:16.519
there are there stories that are always
passed around in that area as like the

432
00:39:16.639 --> 00:39:25.920
ultimate in counter Slash story like this
story proves that they're out there. Anything

433
00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:30.360
that the story you kept hearing over
and over and over again referred to,

434
00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:39.239
there was one, and it was
told to me. I actually Al Jackson

435
00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:45.440
introduced me to to ten people again. He's mister bigfoot Um. He's a

436
00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:52.920
Clinkett elder um. And he introduced
me to to these guys, and they

437
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:59.559
all told the same story that they
had a big foot walk out they were

438
00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:02.960
there was a cedar mill on the
outskirts of clock where they processed cedar wood

439
00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:09.000
and stuff like that, and they
had a big foot walk right through the

440
00:40:09.039 --> 00:40:15.960
middle of the factory or the saw
mill, excuse me. And it was

441
00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:22.199
howling letting out this horrible screech.
It scared them so bad they wouldn't go

442
00:40:22.199 --> 00:40:28.639
back there again to work for like
a month. And these were people in

443
00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:35.079
the community who were well known in
the community as honest, god fearing people

444
00:40:35.320 --> 00:40:43.039
who are not hoaxers, not pranksters, not liars, not alcoholics or drug

445
00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:47.239
addicts, don't have mental illness.
They're just people who saw something really crazy

446
00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:54.239
they couldn't explain. And I believe
them. They all saw it and they

447
00:40:54.280 --> 00:41:00.039
heard it walking through the middle of
their work site. Almost sounds like a

448
00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:07.280
a portlock type situation, except for
there wasn't a massive amount of people being

449
00:41:08.159 --> 00:41:14.280
killed, but they did leave the
area and not return. That's really really

450
00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:22.760
interesting. Well, and plus the
Hida now in Heideberg, they actually have

451
00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:27.960
a name for their bigfoot. They
call it Gageet means like wild man or

452
00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:34.920
something. Like that. And they've
had some stories of like bigfoot, like

453
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:43.119
you know, throwing rockster people's windows
or their doors, stuff like that.

454
00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:50.159
Living up there. And this is
a totally random question. Did you have

455
00:41:50.239 --> 00:41:54.559
any thoughts about missing four on one
or run into any situations regarding that.

456
00:42:01.960 --> 00:42:12.920
They've had children, adults and people
still missing in the forests that were not

457
00:42:13.039 --> 00:42:22.199
found. They they do have black
bear on the island. They're not They

458
00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:28.159
probably get up to about two three
hundred pounds, but the average is about

459
00:42:28.199 --> 00:42:34.360
one hundred and fifty two hundred pounds, and they're I mean, if you

460
00:42:34.440 --> 00:42:40.280
run into one, obviously you know
it would cause damage, but you know

461
00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:47.159
it's it's just it's just weird because
when you have bear kills, you know

462
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:51.960
you find body parts, you know, you find where the bear dragged them

463
00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:57.559
off, You see blood mark,
stuff like that. These are people who

464
00:42:57.639 --> 00:43:01.719
disappeared and are never seen again in
not hiding her hair or not clothing.

465
00:43:02.960 --> 00:43:07.840
They may have been carrying rifles or
fishing equipment. It's all gone and nobody

466
00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:14.039
ever finds it. Would you ever
talk to hear from people that would run

467
00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:21.119
into large animals that would have their
next broken almost twisted and broken I've gotten

468
00:43:21.159 --> 00:43:25.960
reports of that from Montana, where
like even creatures like grizzlies would have their

469
00:43:27.039 --> 00:43:35.400
necks broken. They stumble upon animals
like that in Coloque, when the big

470
00:43:35.400 --> 00:43:40.559
foots kill something or on princip of
whales, they eat it. So you

471
00:43:40.639 --> 00:43:50.559
don't find animals usually that are just
preyed upon and not eating. So I

472
00:43:51.039 --> 00:44:00.960
would say that they have found animals
who were killed like one it had its

473
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:07.320
skull crushed in and the way it
was done, it doesn't make sense that

474
00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:09.480
it would be a bear, because
if a bear did it, you'd have,

475
00:44:09.639 --> 00:44:14.000
you know, claw marks and stuff
like that. What it looked like

476
00:44:14.159 --> 00:44:20.519
is somebody took like a hammer and
hit hit the deer in the head,

477
00:44:21.400 --> 00:44:27.280
just like one hit. And you
know who could run down the deer and

478
00:44:27.400 --> 00:44:30.920
hit it in the head of a
hammer. I don't know, just saying

479
00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:37.519
that's that's that's intense. It is
intense. How long ago again was it

480
00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:45.239
that you were in that Clooc region
two thousand and ten, June two thousand

481
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:49.000
and ten, the June two thousand
and twelve. I still hear stories about

482
00:44:49.079 --> 00:44:52.480
stuff going on out there. Stay
tuned from our Bigfoot society will be right

483
00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:58.320
back after these messages. I was
going to ask if so there's still events

484
00:44:58.440 --> 00:45:05.679
unfolding in that area. Uh.
Wow, that place is a paradise for

485
00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:14.079
bigfoot man. Uh, it's got
it's got fish. One part of the

486
00:45:14.199 --> 00:45:19.199
walk has a salt lake, the
other part has a freshwater lake. And

487
00:45:19.360 --> 00:45:22.199
you have like crabs, you have
like shrimp, you have like seals,

488
00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:29.440
you have like uh, different fish, you have all kinds. I mean

489
00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:35.480
it's it's actually a temperate rainforest is
what cook is classified as. And uh

490
00:45:35.639 --> 00:45:39.800
and Prince of Wales and so you
have like lichen, you have like all

491
00:45:39.880 --> 00:45:45.800
kinds of fruit. They have like
gooseberries, salmon berries, boisoonberries, blueberries.

492
00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:51.519
They've got all kinds of berries around
there. Um, it's literally like

493
00:45:52.920 --> 00:46:06.480
the animals they're gonna starve. Sounds
like as environment. Yep, so they've

494
00:46:06.480 --> 00:46:09.039
said I know one guy he reported
the sighting where he said he saw a

495
00:46:09.079 --> 00:46:14.239
big foot take a rock and there
was a seal swimming in the water,

496
00:46:14.280 --> 00:46:17.039
and the big foot beamed it in
the head and then swam out, grabbed

497
00:46:17.039 --> 00:46:21.159
it, threw it over its shoulders, swam back to shore and walked off

498
00:46:21.159 --> 00:46:28.239
into the forest with it. That
is incredible. That's why I like when

499
00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:30.159
people tell me bigfoot throw rocks out
of my note for a fact, the

500
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:35.360
big foot aren't aiming at them directly. They're just trying to scare you and

501
00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:38.519
drive you out of their area.
They will throw it at you if you

502
00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:43.159
don't like you don't get the hint
and leave, you know what I mean.

503
00:46:43.239 --> 00:46:46.760
But like they they've had reports of
them doing that the beer too,

504
00:46:47.800 --> 00:46:52.239
you know, I've heard an anchorage. I heard reports of them doing it

505
00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:55.360
the moose. I actually heard of
a big foot running down a moose in

506
00:46:55.480 --> 00:47:00.800
anchorage out and denially go for us. There was a couple of hunters out

507
00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:08.679
there. You're not actually supposed to
carry firearms in Denali Park, but you

508
00:47:08.719 --> 00:47:15.280
know a lot of people disregard that
because there's frigging huge grizzly bears out there,

509
00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:19.679
and if you encounter one, they're
not afraid of people at all,

510
00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:22.960
and if they're hungry, they'll eat
the crap out of you. So a

511
00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:27.000
lot of people do carry rifles out
there and whatnot. But anyway, they

512
00:47:27.039 --> 00:47:34.039
saw a big foot run down a
moose, grab it and like break its

513
00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:38.400
snack and drop it like a bad
habit. And they said it literally picked

514
00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:43.199
the moose up and this is a
huge moose. They said it was probably

515
00:47:43.239 --> 00:47:49.159
seven foot from the top of the
head down, and they said that thing

516
00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:52.000
threw it over its shoulder and walked
off. They said the big foot was

517
00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:55.079
about nine feet tall, and they
said it was built like a brick shite

518
00:47:55.079 --> 00:48:00.800
house. Is what the guy said. He said that that thing was breaking

519
00:48:00.920 --> 00:48:05.559
massive, and he said it easily
picked it up, through it over its

520
00:48:05.559 --> 00:48:09.639
shoulder and walked away. The strength
of a big foot is unfreaking real.

521
00:48:10.320 --> 00:48:15.199
That's why when I hear people saying
they'll shoot one. I talked to one

522
00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:17.719
of the elders about that. I
said, has anybody ever shot When he

523
00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:21.960
goes, hell, no, what
do you think We're stupid? We're not

524
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:25.760
going to shoot them. They live
in families out there. If you see

525
00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:30.599
one big foot, there's two or
three others surrounding you. If you shoot

526
00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:36.800
one, the others will come in
and kill you. So that's why I

527
00:48:36.920 --> 00:48:38.960
laugh when I hear people saying they're
going to shoot a big foot. It's

528
00:48:39.039 --> 00:48:45.119
like, you better hope it's alone. Can You can try to shoot a

529
00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:50.119
big foot, but it doesn't sound
like you'll be getting away alive. Potentially,

530
00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:55.199
you probably know, yeah, yeah, definitely did you Another thing is

531
00:48:55.199 --> 00:48:59.320
oh go ahead, Sorry, no, you go ahead. I was going

532
00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:04.840
to ask, did you ever have
any reports of people hearing a lot of

533
00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:08.599
vocalizations in that area? M Oh
yeah, I heard of myself. Oh

534
00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:21.239
really, what kind of things did
you hear? Well? I heard I've

535
00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:29.559
heard whoops, you know, like
that, and there's nothing in clock on

536
00:49:29.639 --> 00:49:35.840
Prince Wales that makes that kind of
noise. I've heard that. I've heard

537
00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:43.360
I've heard growls obviously that thing.
I heard a bigger one. Who whoof

538
00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:50.719
like that at me? I heard
that. Um. I also heard one

539
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:55.920
that kind of reminded me of that
BASI how thinker Thunker put it on his

540
00:49:57.039 --> 00:50:01.159
site. I can't even imitate it. It's it's like we're real weird and

541
00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:06.599
high pitched, and it's just like
it sounds really bizarre. But it sounded

542
00:50:06.679 --> 00:50:09.280
like that. And then I heard
one once it was almost like that,

543
00:50:09.440 --> 00:50:17.519
ohio, moldhow that some people do
like that? What kind of stuff?

544
00:50:17.559 --> 00:50:23.199
You know what I mean? I
heard something very like that, And then

545
00:50:23.239 --> 00:50:32.760
I heard one that was like a
scream and it sounded like Cliff Berrickman used

546
00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:38.719
to do it on Finding Bigfoot.
Beginning of it. He'd do this scream

547
00:50:38.760 --> 00:50:47.079
and I'd be like, he just
go like like that. And I heard

548
00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:52.199
something like that, but it was
a lot louder, and it carried for

549
00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:59.480
miles and like you could feel it. And one of the neighbor's dogs when

550
00:50:59.519 --> 00:51:02.960
I heard that, years went down
tail one between its legs and that thing.

551
00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:06.320
Yeah, I went in the house
and wouldn't come out for a week.

552
00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:10.480
It was hiding under the bed.
It actually went all over itself and

553
00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:22.599
defecated on itself. It was so
terrified. So you've definitely heard a few

554
00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:30.519
things when you're up there. Did
anyone ever report anything similar to like language

555
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:36.519
or something that sounded like language or
anything like that. If you're talking about

556
00:51:36.559 --> 00:51:39.599
like that samurai chatter one, No, okay, I never heard anything like

557
00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:45.320
that, gotcha. If you're talking
about that what's that guy's name, Oh,

558
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:51.960
I can't think of that gentleman's name. He's got that Sierra sounds.

559
00:51:52.599 --> 00:51:54.840
Yeah, I was. It's pretty
much the same thing. That's what I

560
00:51:54.880 --> 00:52:00.519
was referring to. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have never heard anybody

561
00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:06.119
say they heard anything like that.
Got you. But you're sound, you're

562
00:52:06.159 --> 00:52:08.440
here in all sorts of things up
there that is so interesting. It's it's

563
00:52:08.440 --> 00:52:13.679
crazier that I haven't heard more about
this particular area. And maybe it's just

564
00:52:13.719 --> 00:52:21.159
because I'm not overly familiar with the
Alaska bigfoot scene, but h man Klawok,

565
00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:24.639
Alaska definitely seems like it's the place
you should go if you wanted to

566
00:52:25.599 --> 00:52:30.280
research. Is this a place you
can just walk into though, or is

567
00:52:30.280 --> 00:52:37.199
it all like you have to be
associated with the particular tribes in order to

568
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:45.840
go to that area? Well,
Um, it really depends, okay,

569
00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:54.000
because like Craig, Alaska is uh
not a tribal town. It's actually a

570
00:52:54.039 --> 00:53:00.480
town for people who are like not
natives. Um, and I don't native

571
00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:04.679
to Prince of Wales. I mean
like people who are not a Native American.

572
00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:09.000
A lot of them live there in
Craig. And there's there's a guy

573
00:53:09.039 --> 00:53:12.880
out in Craig whose name might for
the life of me, I cannot think

574
00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:17.559
of that man's name, but he
researches bigfoot out there. He'll take you

575
00:53:17.559 --> 00:53:35.800
around. Um. Generally, it's
a good idea to reach out to people

576
00:53:35.800 --> 00:53:42.960
online because there are there are like
people out there in Craig or other places

577
00:53:43.000 --> 00:53:45.599
who let it be known that they
are looking for Bigfoot on Prince of Wales.

578
00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:51.559
Um. If you google it,
you can usually find somebody's name pop

579
00:53:51.679 --> 00:53:53.719
up, and you can always email
them and see what they have to say.

580
00:53:57.960 --> 00:54:00.199
Gotcha, do a little dig in. It sounds like you'll find him

581
00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:05.679
definitely, And like I said,
I can offer the life of me think

582
00:54:05.719 --> 00:54:08.400
of that guy's name. I haven't
talked him since like twenty eleven. I'm

583
00:54:08.440 --> 00:54:12.320
not even sure if he's even still
alive, to be honest, gotcha,

584
00:54:12.480 --> 00:54:19.599
Yeah, he was an older man
and I don't know if he's still living

585
00:54:19.719 --> 00:54:22.960
or even active. So, like
I said, that was like you know,

586
00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:29.840
all those years ago. Oh yeah, exactly, Alex. This has

587
00:54:29.880 --> 00:54:37.119
been an amazing chat about an area
of Alaska I think deserves more respect for

588
00:54:37.159 --> 00:54:43.320
sure. I know it gets my
respect now, no question. I want

589
00:54:43.320 --> 00:54:45.960
to thank you for for coming on
the show and for chatting for a bit.

590
00:54:46.559 --> 00:54:51.480
I mean, we could talk for
hours on all the stories I made.

591
00:54:51.960 --> 00:54:53.920
UM. No, I think I
think we've covered the basics. I

592
00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:58.519
think we've covered enough. Um.
The one thing that we do want to

593
00:54:58.519 --> 00:55:04.800
add though, is that just that
a lot of people out there think that

594
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:14.280
the interdimensional Bigfoot stuff is Bigfoot.
I just want to propose to people that

595
00:55:14.360 --> 00:55:16.159
it might not be a big foot, it really might be a shape shift

596
00:55:16.199 --> 00:55:22.519
in spirit. Now, I'm not
saying to people who are diehard believers a

597
00:55:22.599 --> 00:55:29.760
bigfoot is an interdimensional travel or traveler
or a UFO not or whatever. I

598
00:55:29.800 --> 00:55:31.760
wouldn't for the life of me disparage
them. I know people have had their

599
00:55:31.800 --> 00:55:36.920
experiences, and I know they believe
what they believe, and so I would

600
00:55:36.960 --> 00:55:39.840
never try to challenge that or disrespect
that. But I would just like to

601
00:55:39.840 --> 00:55:45.360
put a bug in somebody's ear,
you know, to just think about that

602
00:55:45.559 --> 00:55:52.159
when you're talking about bigfoot and saying
that they're associated with the orbs or UFOs

603
00:55:52.360 --> 00:55:57.199
or like they walk into a forest
and may disappear and the tracks stop dead

604
00:55:57.239 --> 00:56:00.199
and there's nowhere for them to disappear. To that you might not actually have

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encountered a bigfoot. You might have
encountered a skinwalker, a a'm a cook

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um or a coushaka or whatever.
Just a thought, that's all I got.

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Well, has been a lot of
fun. Yeah, thank you for

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