Nov. 12, 2024

Sasquatch on the Prowl at Cultus Lake, Oregon!

Join us for an in-depth discussion with Randy Silvey, a seasoned Bigfoot researcher from Bend, Oregon. Randy shares his compelling encounters at Cultist Lake, where he experienced eerie howls, tree knocks, and even nighttime visitors walking around...

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Season 1

Join us for an in-depth discussion with Randy Silvey, a seasoned Bigfoot researcher from Bend, Oregon. Randy shares his compelling encounters at Cultist Lake, where he experienced eerie howls, tree knocks, and even nighttime visitors walking around his camp. He recounts multiple Class B reports from campers and hunters near the lake, including mysterious gravel being dropped on tents and unseen entities moving through campsites. Randy also discusses his expeditions in the Deschutes National Forest and other notable areas in Central Oregon, providing a comprehensive look into his Bigfoot research and the evidence he's gathered.

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all right, PICKFO Society. I've got the privilege of talking

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to Randy Sylvie today. He's an individual that I've been

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having some correspondence about. He had reached out to me

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about Cultis Lake and the listeners of the show. I've

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definitely heard that mentioned at least once in a prior episode.

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And Randy's also with the Bend Bigfoot Research Group, so

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it's exciting to have him on the show today. How

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are you doing, Randy?

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Oh, I'm doing excellent. Thank you for having me.

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Wow, man, I am excited to have you on this

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whole area that we're looking at right now. And you're

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over by the Shoots National Forest, you know, over there

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by band and sat Sun River and La Pine, and

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I got familiar with Oakridge and will lam It. But man,

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I got to get over there next year. Maybe I'll

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maybe I'll go a little bit east. But dude, I'm

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so excited to talk to you about what you've experienced

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and what you've heard out there. But let's start with this, Randy,

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how did you first get into this whole wild bigfoot stuff.

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Oh, great question. I'll make a brief a younger kid,

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of course, I watched a six million Dollar Man and

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I saw that creature on there and refer to the

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big platter of Sasquatch. I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm fascinating.

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Even though with television and then later on Canada this spoof,

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my wife's grandmother got me a membership to Western Bigfoot

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Society that was located in Saint John's, Oregon. Ray Crow

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was actually the gentleman started that group, and it was

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a fun little membership where every few months you get

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this skeptical, trifled little newsletter of the latest things going

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on in and around the Pacific Northwest. And God just

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fueled me even more. I went to a couple of

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meetings and even hung out with a gentleman by the

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name of Peter Burn, who I didn't think that meant

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anything until later on in my journey of bigfoot world.

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So I did a couple of research papers in college

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and really enjoyed the topic even more and became just

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kind of quietly fascinated with the topic. Co workers knew

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about it and kind of poke fun at me. But

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for the most part, I kept it reserveding to myself,

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and one day or one evening, a coworker called me

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at two in the morning and he was traveling from

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Salem back to Bend from a family reunion. He had

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to get to work, so it's two in the morning.

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He's coming around Subtle Lake there and whatever he saw

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I scared him to the point of calling me and

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leaving me a voicemail that something walked in front of

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his truck on the highway, and he said, I'm a

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non believer, but now I believe you, Randy, and I'll

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never make fun of you again. So from then on

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I took that information and went on my first expedition

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with BFRL soon thereafter, and met some great people doing

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that expedition, and went on several several more, and then

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decided to start my own group here in central Oregon,

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where we respond to local reports here, collecting as much

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hard evidence as possible and trying to be careful to

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filter that at as scientifically as possible. And so I

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have now pretty much. I get reports often. My name

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is definitely out there locally, and it's fun. It's a

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great hobby. So I'm in the woods most of my

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free time researching, following up in reports. Tracking. I really

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love tracking, and it just seems like I'm getting busy

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and busier with local reports and having just a lot

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of fun with it. But also my group is a

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great group for people to have a safe platform to

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share what they may have experienced here locally Central Oregon.

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So that's pretty much me in a nutshell.

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I love that it's so important to have someone in

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the area that people can trust. You get how it

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works out there because you live in the area and

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just the people can talk to you directly. That is

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so so important. Were you a BFROO investigator as well,

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or you just went to a few expeditions correct?

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I was not. I was curious about it, but I

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never really followed up on it. I probably have gone

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on a couple of dozen BFRL expeditions. I certainly enjoyed

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them that I kind of wanted to branch off and

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do my own thing, and so that's what I've done.

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I do love the networking part of the BFRL crew,

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really really kind people knowledgeable, But I did not become

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a bfr investigator. I am my own investigator, not affiliated

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with anyone, just out there at the grassroots level of

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talking to people, so responding to their reports, interviewing them,

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deciding if it's more of a misidentification or if it's

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worth gathering another teammate and going to investigate the area

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and interview with person.

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That is fantastic. Were those all expeditions based out of Oregon?

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Then? Correct? Yeah?

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Did anything cool happen on any of those expeditions that

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you were on?

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Nothing? Notable? No, And I think, you know, I think

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expeditions are fun for people who are curious about the topic,

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but I think for any hard evidence to come from

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those expeditions, it's just there's too many people. It's a

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lot of chaos, and I think when you have a

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lot of I've had a backtrack. I did have a

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pretty interesting experience in Mount Hood on my first expedition,

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which I should say that really feeled me even more.

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And that's only because I did a remote camp on

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that expedition and so we had the home base. But

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then I volunteered to go and do a remote camp

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for one night with two other gentlemen up with the

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base amount of Hood, and that's where I had an

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amazing experience. So I went, Okay, there's something to this.

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So that trip really was pretty fruitful, especially for me.

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But for the most part, I think there's this too

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many people and one spot in the woods, you know,

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and wackon trees and hoot and holler, and you know,

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I get that. It's just I just don't think it's

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conducive for these things to come out and be curious

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about you, you know.

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Yeah, no, I totally get it. I've never been on

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one yet, but it is really good networking experience. But

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would you be able to share what happened that experience

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you kind of alluded to just then up in mountains?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we we did our evening meeting

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and dinner and then we put on I volunteered earlier today.

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They were looking for volunteers, and it was my first trip,

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and I'm like, yeah, I'm just going to send it.

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I mean, this is why I'm here, right. So I

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gathered for a few belongings and two other gentlemen right

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after an evening meeting and we height oh.

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Maybe a mile and a half to a remote, killer,

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remote little lake it's called Cripple Lake, and going through

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the forest with red light only or no light and

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the forest was dead silent and just thick and dark

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and just kind of airy feeling.

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Anyways, and we set up camp along the creek or lake,

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I should say. There's a little fire pit that was

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over there. So we got a little fire going and

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we're kind of chit chatting, and now it's probably ten

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thirty nine, maybe eleven, and the one of the gentleman

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who had been on a few expeditions, he said, okay,

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let's see if there's anything here, and he took a

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decent stick and he hit the tree and he goes, okay, now,

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let's just sit and listen. Give it. About ten minutes,

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nothing happened, and he goes, okay, let's do it again.

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So it did again, and about ten minutes later after

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that one, we got a percussive knock across the leg

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and my eye just went and they go, oh, okay,

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there we go, and then he responded to it, and

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then another one coming to from my three o'clock responded

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and this went on gosh, for a couple hours. They

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were responding from different directions, so across the lake being

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my twelve o'clock, we together I responded from like seven o'clock,

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and then our three o'clock again and they would kind

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of move. So each tree knock we did two hard

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tree knocks and usually it resulted and one of those

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three responding to us. And it's it got a little

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nerve wracking because the source of these percussives were moving

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and we had flear and I remember seeing a kyle,

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but we didn't see anything else. And I thought that

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was baffling at the time. Now now it doesn't surprise me,

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but and I said, well, where you know the where

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these notes come from, And there's only one trail in

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and there's no way to the backside, so someone's on

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backside something as responding, and then there's other things responding

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to it and us. So it got to the point

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where the gentleman, as a veteran, here's a marine who

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started these tree knocks and kind of led this remote camp.

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And he got really really kind of unnerved and even

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pulled out his put on a tree stop and he goes, Okay,

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we're gonna go to sleep. We're gonna do cowboy camp.

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And he goes, God forbid if something happens, that gun

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is right there and probably unorthodox for a B four

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O trip, but it just added a little bit of

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peace of mind. And these knockings knocks, I should say,

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continued until about four in the morning, and then we

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woke up a daybreak and went back to camp, and

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holy cow, I couldn't believe you know what I was hearing.

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And it definitely put me in the high gear of

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learning more about the subject.

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Sounds like you are just in it and no way out.

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Yeah, and it was really well done. That One had

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a couple of classes that you were asked to take

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and so, and one of them was learning you know,

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learning all the different vocalizations in the forest and learning

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your forest and Chris Spencer taught it and I just

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became a huge admirer of his work of studying digital

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audio and learning you know, what's making that noise and

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what's that noise. So there's a class on that, and

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there was a class on casting, and I go, wow,

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this is really this is really something. This is very productive.

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And so you're right, that's that was probably what definitely

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propelled me into diving, just drinking the kool aid and

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going completely deep down the rabbit hole.

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Absolutely. Then you get back to your own area, which

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is like the Shoots National Forest Area, it sounds like

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you start going in and doing your own thing.

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Correct, Yeah, yeah, And I was, you know, after probably

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six more expeditions, I said, you know what, I think

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we got some stuff here locally, and I'm going to

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start my own group. So I got a couple of

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buddies together we created then Bigfoot Research Group. We did

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a town hall I started doing every other month. I

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do what's called Squatch and Bruise. And it was a

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little piece of joint with a secluded room and it'd

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be a Thursday evening at six o'clock, go down, have

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a size of pizza and a bear. And I tried

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to have a guest speaker. I tried to have some

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substance to the meeting. You know, let's talk about local reports,

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let's talk about following up or what was followed up

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on reports. And then I tried to have a guest

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speaker of some sort, and so people could walk away

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with something tangible. But more importantly, like I mentioned earlier,

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it was a safe place for people. If they wanted

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to speak, they could speak. They could just show up

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and leave and not talk to anyone but to find.

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But again it was a safe platform, a safe room

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where they could tell their story, get it off their shoulders,

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and feel like they were recognized and not ridiculed. And

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that was a really big It's still a very important

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thing for me because it's such a taboo step subject.

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Even today it's getting better. But so I was doing that,

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and then just from that, and then putting a group

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on Facebook started slowly getting reports and now it's definitely

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taking taking a motion of its own. And now I'm

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getting reports consistently and I do filter them. I decided,

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you know, okay, this is a misidentification, but I always

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let that person tell the story and then I decide

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how far to go with it. So primarily most of

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my reports are all here. I have researched out and

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tell them up Forrest, and then I've spent a couple

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of trips over with Darryl and Toby learning and that's

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exactly just going there and learning what I can do

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better and as far as collecting evidence, and then I

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come back here and try to apply it and use

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some of their message or mythology. And so yeah, the

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group is growing. We've got some great stuff going on

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here in central Oregon. Again, think these things were here

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and they are definitely here and just enjoy getting out

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there and trying to understand the habitat and respect what

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these things are.

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Oh man, I agree, I agree so much. I mean,

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it's it's incredibly you don't hear more about Central Oregon

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because it's like everyone gets you know, they're talking about

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like Olympic Peninsula and like Washington and Mount Hood, which

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is cool. I mean those those places are great, but

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like dude, Central organ is nuts. Like the stuff that

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is happening there. I don't think people even realize the

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stuff that's going on in there.

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I absolutely agree. I just recently this year met up

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with a gentleman who who's been researching the other side

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of my area up by Polane in East Lake, and

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he's got amazing stuff happening up there as well, which

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I did not realize. I've been most mostly focusing. So

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my research area is the North Quah Summit Lake Tip

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in August, all the way north to No Bachelor, a

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little bit in the Sisters area. But my heart reports

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that I respond to seem to be happening within thirty

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minutes of my front door.

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Big for a society who will be right back after

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these messages.

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And so that's why I really focus on.

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So you are talking about the Summit Summit, Okay, Summit Lake,

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got it?

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Yep, Yeah, you see it, yep, yep, yep. That's a

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great area. So that that takes you. I've done a

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lot of research down here, and now that will take

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you right to Oak Ridge the backside, and I'll drop

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you down the Hills Creek Reservoir. But there's a tip

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and August Lake. I've gotten some reports out of there,

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and then also Loa Moolo Lake. I've done a lot

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of a lot of footwork in there. We've got some

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great reports from thelo also near Diamond Lake. That area

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some great stuff. But it's you really have to be

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in that area a lot, and it's just hard with

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the fires and the snow now to get in there.

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And it's it's getting true from my little area here,

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but that that range that's kind of my favorite area

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is just going up along the spine there basically floing

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the PCT trail and then you cross Crescent across Highway

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fifty eight and then you go up towards Waldo Chelton

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Lake right along Coultie and it keeps going up. I

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just think there's it's just the beautiful. It's thick in there,

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a lot of water, there's food cover, of course, And

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I truly think that maybe they kind of teetered back

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and forth over on the on the west side a

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little bit where it's a little warmer, milder maybe, and

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then back over here in the summer or late summer.

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So who knows. Some people think they migrate here some thing,

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maybe not the more regional I'm still learning that. I

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don't have a great answer for that. But it seems

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like fall. I think with most researchers, this is my

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game time. It seems like all the actions starts mid

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August and goes right into November.

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Dude, I'm telling and you know I don't live there.

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I experienced it for a week and I talk to

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people over the phone for a podcast. Right, they're not

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migrating out of Oakridge. They're living and O like they

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have to be living in Oakridge around that type of

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like you go to that town and you can talk

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to anyone in that town and there's a good ninety

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percent chance that they will have a big Foot encounter

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story to share. It is the most insane, and that

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might be how it is out there and I'm just

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not used to it. Maybe that's like that in other

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towns too, but it was nuts.

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Dude, that's great. I'm glad you had a good time

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to experience. I'm glad you're coming back. You will have

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to next time. We'll have to drag you over here

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and you can hang out with us for a little bit.

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Oh absolutely, man, Yeah, because there's uh, there's this like

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bigfoot bar and where is it? It's like, you know

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what I'm talking about though.

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I do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's one of my

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favorite places to go because I've been up in the mountains.

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I'll stop there on the way home and have a

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sandwich and a beer.

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That's awesome. Vern Yeah, yes, that's the place. So tell me.

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You know, in your in your time doing research out

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there in the woods, have you had any of the

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ordinary encounters or anything that you've experienced that was just

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it was a little weird or or you think it

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might have been related to Bigfoot?

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Yeah, you know, I have in multiple different areas, I've

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experienced vocalizations, percussive, you know, loud crazy tree offs like

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it sounded like a four bar for hitting a tree

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one hundred feet away. From your tent with other people

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with me, vocalizations coming from the Tillamuck Forest. Some of

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the craziest stuff I've heard from there, seeing prints over

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in the al Moon Lab, finding i would say, impressions,

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and seeing some prince here locally, probably my most recent

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really crazy stuff to the point where it got my

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wife's attention. And this is Cultist Lake again. I've gotten

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probably six more reports from Cultus Lake in the last

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two months. You know, is this recent trip I went

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as a We went as a family trip, and my

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wife knows that Cultis is one of my research areas,

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but I promised her we would go as a family

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and just do family stuff. So we loaded up the boat.

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And you have to get to this camp site via

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boat only or you hike in. So that adds a

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little bit of excitement to right, a little bit in

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the steep. So we load up just this little old daylight.

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I know. We have my daughter and my boyfriend was

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so the four of us are to our campgear and

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culture is like now it's empty, it's closed, people have

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gone home. The party's over. Right, you have that entire

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lake to yourself, which is why I love this time

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here and we boted over to across a late beautiful

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you know, seventy degrees beached. The boat got ten set

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up and it's a picnic table, fire ring and an

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outhouse and a beautiful sandy beach. And so we were

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there just to do family stuff, you know. So we

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great time, wakeboarded and good food and had some friends

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come up and we played games at night. Night number

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one was great, had a blast, and I'm really focusing

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on not listening to anything or going for a little

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random hip by myself or tracking. I'm being a husband, right,

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I'm cooking and laughing. And so night number two we

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went to bed, woke and my wife is she's pretty logic,

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black and white. Everything has a reason. In night number two,

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who it was five fifteen in the morning, I un

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zipped the tent to outside. You taken quickly, and as

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soon as I unzipped the tent, got my shoes, took

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two steps from the tent, something howled and roared at

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the same time across the cove, and then a tree crashed,

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and I went, oh, okay. In my mind were going yeahhoo,

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but I was really calm, And my wife goes, what

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the heck was that I'm like, oh, it's not like

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an animal or tree, you know, a really really working

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hard to downplay it. Meantime, my heart is jumping. I'm

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so excited, and so I take a few more steps

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do my business, and I can hear a crazy loud

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tree knock coming from my left or a ridge, so

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something howld tree crashed And a few seconds later there's

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a response from a ridge above us. And now my

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wife's going, what what's going on after him? I don't know.

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I think another tree fell or a branch or something.

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So I get back in the tent, get my super bag,

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and she's trying to do so everything, like why God,

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so what do you think that is? I go, I

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don't know, And you know, it's just, you know, trees

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fall all the time, which they do. And so fifteen

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minutes of this discussion, we're kind of whispering. It's still dark,

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still early. Now we're hearing tree snaps, tree breaks, sticks

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hitting trees, something whacking trees in the campsites to our left,

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probably three hundred feet away. But it's really sick, dark green, lush,

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so you can't see clearly. It's just because of all

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the growth, but also it's still dark. And so now

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my wife's going, well, what is that? I go, well,

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I don't know. You know, I'm being really, really logical.

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I don't want to get excited about anything. I'm trying

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to remain calm for her and have explanations because you know,

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a lot of things can be explained. There's no win.

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Everything's dead still, but something is or some things is gathering,

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breaking sticks, hitting sticks with trees and walking. You can

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hear clear two or two feet by peedlehamaad walking about

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four campsites over. And I said, well, maybe maybe some

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hikers came in. You know, it's a two and a

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half hour hike, so maybe some hikers came in and

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they're gathering wood. And I said, well, now I'm explaining

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that to her. I go, well, that can't be. I mean,

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who would hike in the middle of the night. I go, oh,

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maybe tweakers. So great, now we got tweakers back here,

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but they can't have a fire. Says no fire. Why

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they were they doing gathering trees and snapping trees? And

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then I hear one from above the ridge again, I'm like, well,

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that must be a hiker up there too. So now

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there's like two hikers here and it's dark out, and

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so now it's five forty five and she's like, what

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is and it's loud, and my daughter from her dad goes, Dad,

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what's all that noise? Who's over there? I'm like, I

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don't know. He can't see. So I ends up my

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tent grab a flash slight. The boyfriend does, and we

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both accept it's issues on and we both start going

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to research where this noise is. Who are these people?

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And I'm starting to really believe like there are people here.

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This is nuts. And we walk Gosh, we were going

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probably thirty minutes. I'll tell you it was in the

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first five minutes of us walking towards that source of

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the noise, everything went quiet in the forest and we're

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walking and we're looking for disturbance and the dirt. I'm thinking, Okay,

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maybe Elk is back here, maybe he's sitting in the trees.

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And the gentleman is with me, he's an avid bow

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hunter and out doors and he goes, oh, there's no

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Elk signer. They normally don't do that. So I'm okay,

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so it's not that. Maybe it's a third Maybe maybe

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it really is people the ground is not disturbed. It

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still has that that it rained a couple of days prior,

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so it still had the formation, you know, where the

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rain dropped it hit all the dirt, and nothing's disturbed

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it since. So there's no fresh disturbed dirt. There's no tracks,

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there's no footprints, there's no disturbance at all in this

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entire campground. So he and I, after thirty minutes, go

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back and now my wife's sitting by the propane campfire

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and my daughter is and we're like, oh, what's the

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fine do you do? You see anything? Who's here? And

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I go we found zip. There's not a single soul here,

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00:25:12.279 --> 00:25:15.759
it's just us. Well, it can't be. And so we

454
00:25:15.799 --> 00:25:19.559
sat down in a chair and it started back up

455
00:25:19.720 --> 00:25:24.200
and I'm like, what the heck, but farther away, get

456
00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:27.160
back out of my chair. And then it stopped and

457
00:25:27.160 --> 00:25:29.720
it stayed to stop. So I'm like, oh my gosh.

458
00:25:30.279 --> 00:25:32.720
So we finished the weekend. We had another night there,

459
00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:35.359
it was quiet, had a great time, loaded up the boat,

460
00:25:35.400 --> 00:25:38.160
went back home. I posted this on my on my

461
00:25:38.359 --> 00:25:42.559
face group, our Facebook group, and the reports started rolling

462
00:25:42.599 --> 00:25:45.640
in and then I had some co researchers who were

463
00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:47.319
going to be in town. I said, oh, look, do

464
00:25:47.359 --> 00:25:49.079
you mind taking us up there? We got some audio

465
00:25:49.160 --> 00:25:52.519
equipment and we had some parabolic dishes. Do you mind

466
00:25:52.559 --> 00:25:54.440
taking this up there? Well? Now, sure, why not? So

467
00:25:54.480 --> 00:25:57.000
it's one week later, so we hopped back to my boat.

468
00:25:57.119 --> 00:26:01.440
I take him across the lake. Saint scenario, mild weather, clear, still,

469
00:26:01.559 --> 00:26:05.720
no wind, no people, not a single soul. They get

470
00:26:05.720 --> 00:26:10.680
their parabolics set up on the beach and Night number

471
00:26:10.680 --> 00:26:13.599
one is quiet, as I suspect they just opened up

472
00:26:13.640 --> 00:26:17.480
fire season to wait a small fire. And then night

473
00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:21.920
number two, sorry, Day number two started hearing some occasional

474
00:26:21.960 --> 00:26:23.799
tree knocks, and I go, okay, and here we go.

475
00:26:24.279 --> 00:26:26.240
Now I get to be researcher guy. I don't have

476
00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:29.200
to be husband and good father, right, So now I'm excited,

477
00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:33.240
and so we're started hearing some vocalizations and a lot

478
00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:36.640
of things that made to scratch her head. And Night

479
00:26:38.160 --> 00:26:43.279
number two we went to bed. The audio recorders were

480
00:26:43.319 --> 00:26:47.359
set up to record from six am to six pm,

481
00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:52.240
and these parabolic dishes were shoot probably four hundred yards apart,

482
00:26:53.680 --> 00:26:56.720
tucked away. They're on the shore of the lake, but

483
00:26:56.759 --> 00:27:00.440
they're top back towards trees a little bit so you

484
00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:02.960
didn't see him clearly to walk right up on him.

485
00:27:04.039 --> 00:27:08.799
And so we went to bed at ten o'clock. I

486
00:27:08.839 --> 00:27:14.000
went to bed a little elier and then and again

487
00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:18.119
this recording we didn't we didn't hear these recordings. A

488
00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:21.759
gentleman dame goes through the recording till about a week later, unfortunately.

489
00:27:21.920 --> 00:27:25.079
But we went to bed at ten and the recorder

490
00:27:25.240 --> 00:27:28.440
picked up something an hour and a half later. So

491
00:27:28.519 --> 00:27:32.519
eleven twenty eight you can hear a little bit of snoring,

492
00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:38.039
and then you hear something walking down the beach, very clear,

493
00:27:38.519 --> 00:27:47.200
heavy biped commonoid human two fat, two foot stride, heavy

494
00:27:47.400 --> 00:27:50.640
coming down the beach in the saft sand, and it's

495
00:27:50.680 --> 00:27:54.880
a crunch crunch, and as it gets closer to the

496
00:27:54.880 --> 00:27:59.759
parabolic the crunch is loud, and it walks right up

497
00:27:59.799 --> 00:28:05.480
to the parabolic dish, pauses briefly, and then curves back

498
00:28:05.519 --> 00:28:08.000
out and starts walking down the rest of the beach.

499
00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:11.960
The parabolic dish is probably thirty feet from the first ten,

500
00:28:12.759 --> 00:28:18.480
behind some fir trees. As it walks away, another one

501
00:28:19.319 --> 00:28:25.920
lighterfoot biped, nice stride, lighter foot in the sand, walks

502
00:28:26.039 --> 00:28:29.839
up to the parabolic also but stands there and I

503
00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:33.279
assume is just checking it out and staring. The other

504
00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:36.599
one you can hear in the background slowly walking away,

505
00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:39.160
and then this one goes, oh, oh, I need to

506
00:28:39.200 --> 00:28:42.640
catch up to that one, and so starts to walk off,

507
00:28:42.759 --> 00:28:45.359
starts to walk faster, faster, and then breaks into a

508
00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:51.039
small jog. So we didn't realize that that had happened

509
00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:54.200
that night until week later the audio was gone through

510
00:28:54.799 --> 00:28:57.920
and we there is you know, and I try to

511
00:28:57.920 --> 00:29:02.720
be extremely logical, and we kind of, you know, you

512
00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:05.759
think about okay, let's break it down. So so something

513
00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:09.240
some things. There's two of these things on two feet

514
00:29:09.839 --> 00:29:13.079
walked up to the purbot. They knew where it was.

515
00:29:13.160 --> 00:29:15.559
They walked right up to it and continued to walk on.

516
00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:18.079
So I'm like, okay, so now we have hikers on

517
00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:23.480
a Thursday night, second week in October, walking eleven thirty

518
00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:25.759
at night on the beach. So we got hikers on

519
00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:31.599
the beach. Well, okay, that's that's possible, but not probable.

520
00:29:32.599 --> 00:29:36.039
So okay, and if it was hikers, you know, if

521
00:29:36.039 --> 00:29:38.440
you and I were going down the beach at night

522
00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:42.039
eleven thirty at a remote lake, we'd be talking like, okay, hey,

523
00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:43.440
this is a cool lake. Oh, it looks like some

524
00:29:43.440 --> 00:29:46.359
people are camping there. Oh what's this plastic thing sitting

525
00:29:46.400 --> 00:29:48.200
on a tripod? Oh let's check that out. Oh yeah,

526
00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:51.039
that's pretty cool. We must be researching something. Okay, let's

527
00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:54.039
keep going right, there'd be chigger chatter talking of some sort,

528
00:29:54.519 --> 00:29:57.039
and there was none. What's even more baffling is I

529
00:29:57.079 --> 00:30:01.720
had a glad trash bag full fruit scraps I left

530
00:30:01.720 --> 00:30:04.480
out because there's no wildlife there and I'm not too

531
00:30:04.480 --> 00:30:05.160
worried about it.

532
00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:08.920
Big for society, who will be right back after these messages.

533
00:30:25.039 --> 00:30:28.839
So whatever it was didn't care about the trash bag,

534
00:30:28.880 --> 00:30:33.200
which was thirty feet from the parabolic So I deduced

535
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:35.640
in my mind that it probably wasn't on a hiker

536
00:30:36.079 --> 00:30:39.079
at eleven thirty night. A bear okay, well, maybe it's

537
00:30:39.119 --> 00:30:42.759
a bear. Okay, maybe maybe it's on his two feet. Okay, Well,

538
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:45.079
bearers are kind of clumsy on the two feet when

539
00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:48.160
they're standing out, but then they have erratic breathing, they're

540
00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:51.720
snorting or huffing, and they would have also had interest

541
00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:56.559
in the trash. So probably not a bear. So two

542
00:30:56.559 --> 00:31:01.880
feet walking through the sand, didn't care about trash, wasn't

543
00:31:01.920 --> 00:31:05.200
talking simply walked up to the parabolic, checked it out,

544
00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:10.160
and kept walking. I don't know, but it drew a

545
00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:13.200
lot of suspect for me, like, Okay, we're in the

546
00:31:13.240 --> 00:31:17.319
right spot. These things are here. Obviously didn't want to

547
00:31:17.359 --> 00:31:21.359
be disruptle, didn't want to wake us up whatever these were.

548
00:31:21.640 --> 00:31:24.960
It was clearly knew we were asleep because everyone's snoring,

549
00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:28.200
you can hear it on the audio. And tinded by

550
00:31:28.279 --> 00:31:31.759
that like, Okay, these humans or people are asleep, Let's

551
00:31:31.799 --> 00:31:33.319
walk up and see what they set up on the

552
00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:36.799
beach because we're curious about it. That's my interpretation of

553
00:31:36.839 --> 00:31:41.160
that visit. And then weekend number three, so we backed

554
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:42.880
up and had a great time, had a lot of

555
00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:46.000
great things happen. Weekend number three. I went back up

556
00:31:46.039 --> 00:31:49.359
with my with my cell cam, which is a no no.

557
00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:52.440
I'm not a big camera guy, but I've had experiences

558
00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:55.960
with things playing my camera. So I put the camera

559
00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:59.440
off a beaten path and just set it up just

560
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:01.599
to see what would happened. And I had two values

561
00:32:01.599 --> 00:32:03.839
with me and more than non believer. But he wanted

562
00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:06.440
to go and explore this here beautiful and help us

563
00:32:06.519 --> 00:32:09.799
up the camera, and he did. He woke up. We're

564
00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:12.359
only there one night, and of course nothing happened, but

565
00:32:12.599 --> 00:32:15.519
he woke up and we're sitting by the fire and

566
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:19.240
he goes, I know this sounds absolutely insane, but he goes,

567
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:22.000
I swear. Probably a little after five, I could hear

568
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:27.640
two kids chatting behind my tent. I couldn't make out

569
00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:32.240
a single word, but something. Two of them younger were

570
00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:36.359
talking and I go, really, tell me more, I mean,

571
00:32:36.599 --> 00:32:38.799
like but kind of and then he just stopped and

572
00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:44.319
he goes, never mind, stupid. So and that's that's so far.

573
00:32:44.359 --> 00:32:46.839
It's been my last trip up there, and I'll probably

574
00:32:46.839 --> 00:32:49.319
go up and get my camera eventually. I do believe

575
00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:52.920
that cameras detour them more than anything. But it's fun

576
00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:55.920
to see if I, you know, get a little bit

577
00:32:55.960 --> 00:32:58.640
of something playing with my camera and something has been

578
00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:01.200
which is kind of fun and I'm curious to check

579
00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:06.160
that out. But that's that's been my most recent activity

580
00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:10.880
with most bang for the buck, like something walking up

581
00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:15.759
into your camp while you're asleep is for me, that's

582
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:18.160
my best local stuff yet. I'm pretty excited about it.

583
00:33:18.200 --> 00:33:20.319
And it's so cool to hear that, you know, you

584
00:33:20.319 --> 00:33:23.240
yourself have also experienced stuff and it sounds like you've

585
00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:27.200
gotten multiple reports as well from that same area. Are

586
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:31.720
those those other reports or those visuals are people experiencing

587
00:33:31.799 --> 00:33:34.279
like Class B type things or.

588
00:33:35.359 --> 00:33:40.920
Yeah, unfortunately they've all been Class b's most of the reports.

589
00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:45.000
It's something coming into our camp, Randy. Something walked around

590
00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:46.920
the tents about two in the morning and walked away.

591
00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:51.799
Something poured gravel on the top of my tent. I

592
00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:56.400
thought it was raining, but something was slowly dropping or

593
00:33:56.680 --> 00:33:58.880
letting loose, like a small handful of gravel on the

594
00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:01.240
top of my dumb tent. My daughter had that happen

595
00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:03.160
as well that night we're up there as a family.

596
00:34:03.599 --> 00:34:06.640
She thought it was raining and she goes, no, pebbles

597
00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:09.079
were literally rolling down the top of my tent at

598
00:34:09.079 --> 00:34:12.199
one three in the morning. And so I had another

599
00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:15.800
report just like that. I had a report. It was

600
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:18.360
also this year August, the same thing, gravel in the tent.

601
00:34:18.440 --> 00:34:21.840
This is a group of forty people. They are They

602
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:25.199
are ahead of Central Oregon Symphony. I believe it was

603
00:34:25.199 --> 00:34:27.880
a orchestra. Anyway, it's a trip to do once a

604
00:34:27.960 --> 00:34:29.440
year in the backside of cult to Slate. They load

605
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:33.199
up boats, they'll go camp over there. And they play instruments,

606
00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:37.599
cellos and violins and just have a little jam session

607
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:40.599
once a year. And there was two gentlemen that flew

608
00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:43.440
in from New Orleans for this event, and not only

609
00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:48.480
did something slowly seem like drop small gravel or dirt

610
00:34:48.519 --> 00:34:50.119
on the top of the tent and the wee hours

611
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:53.280
in the morning, but also they heard something walking around

612
00:34:53.320 --> 00:34:56.360
the tent and so along with two other campers in

613
00:34:56.440 --> 00:35:00.679
that group. So what seemed to be a common nominator

614
00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:04.960
at this location as music, it's the non threatening is

615
00:35:05.039 --> 00:35:06.840
to hanging out. And that's why I tell people who

616
00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:08.840
won't have an experience, if you're gonna have an experience,

617
00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:10.840
just go and act normal. Don't put on the face paint,

618
00:35:11.199 --> 00:35:14.519
don't pull out clear don't run around the woods with

619
00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:19.039
your cameo gear on. Just sit next to fire and

620
00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:22.920
play a little bit of music. Just be normal, play games,

621
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:29.239
chit chat, don't get crazy. And that's the most non

622
00:35:29.320 --> 00:35:33.239
threatening way to have an experience. In my opinion, I

623
00:35:33.239 --> 00:35:37.440
think that produces curiosity and more importantly, maybe they feel

624
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:40.599
like they can go these things, can go about doing

625
00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:44.960
their day to day business and not be chased or

626
00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:48.039
or stocked, or killed or what have you. But this

627
00:35:48.079 --> 00:35:51.519
particular area, whatever these things are, there's been never a

628
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:55.079
threatening experience. It's more like, oh God, there's something really

629
00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:59.159
big in the woods. It's been a curious experience at

630
00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:03.199
the best. I almost think whatever's at this lake, based

631
00:36:03.199 --> 00:36:05.719
on all the reports I'm getting, is barely even curious

632
00:36:05.719 --> 00:36:08.159
about humans. It's more like, gosh darn' it kind annoying.

633
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:10.480
I'm gonna walk through the scam because I get over

634
00:36:10.519 --> 00:36:12.800
to that creek and I'll do a couple of circles

635
00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:14.679
and move on. I'm not gonna do any whoops. I'm

636
00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:19.559
not gonna do any scary howls, no scary streams, no

637
00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:23.239
crazy tree knocks. The knocks i've heard up there, I

638
00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:27.079
think have been just for communication to others. They've been slight.

639
00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:32.280
They're not overpowering type of woodknock, not an intimidating woodknock,

640
00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:34.800
is what I should say. So this particular lake, I

641
00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:37.199
think whatever they are just kind of want to be

642
00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:39.840
left alone, do business as usual, and if as a

643
00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:41.800
humans there, they might go kind of check them out,

644
00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:43.960
but they just want to be left alone.

645
00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:50.159
So that's extremely interesting. You said there's a theme where

646
00:36:50.480 --> 00:36:54.920
they're not really aggressive encounters because I'm remembering from a

647
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:58.840
lot of the encounters I took over from the Sasquatch summerfest,

648
00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:03.000
like that area near Oakridge. There is there's a theme

649
00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:07.679
of I wouldn't say like Oklahoma aggressive, but I would

650
00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:12.440
say maybe semi aggressive, like hunters getting their gun barrels bent,

651
00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:17.039
people being chased out of the Spirit Lake area by

652
00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:21.159
Sasquatch that look like they have dreadlocks, just like really

653
00:37:21.400 --> 00:37:27.639
weird semi aggressive, not like overly like we're gonna take

654
00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:31.480
you down stuff. But actually, I take that back. There's

655
00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:39.280
there is one, but that's not exactly public anyway, gotcha.

656
00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:42.079
I just remember that myself. But for the most part,

657
00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:47.039
it's semi aggressive. So over in your area, do you

658
00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:50.239
get for the most part, like non threatening ones or

659
00:37:50.280 --> 00:37:52.920
are there sometimes ones where it's like, oh, you know,

660
00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:55.119
things escalated maybe a little bit there.

661
00:37:55.239 --> 00:38:00.559
No, I'm not. I'm going through my quick roll decks

662
00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:04.320
in my brain. I have not ever taken an aggressive

663
00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:11.159
report incorrect. In twenty eleven, hunters near Cultis Lake. I

664
00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:16.280
think they were held and yelled at by something in

665
00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:18.760
the woods during the hunting season and they packed up

666
00:38:18.760 --> 00:38:24.119
and left. That's probably the worst one. I've ever received,

667
00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:28.480
so I am you know. Of course, again, this is

668
00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:32.079
a wild animal that hasn't been classified yet, so I

669
00:38:32.079 --> 00:38:35.159
can't tell you if it's if it's you know, threatening

670
00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:38.840
or not. But the experiences I've had and the stories

671
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:41.559
and reports I have collected, I've got a lot of

672
00:38:41.559 --> 00:38:44.719
class air reports, and these things want to be left alone.

673
00:38:44.840 --> 00:38:47.440
They're like it was accidentally running in front of a car.

674
00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:49.000
I got a lot of those. I got one that

675
00:38:49.960 --> 00:38:54.199
was surprised by a gentleman camping out of his kayak,

676
00:38:54.239 --> 00:38:55.760
and he had a late start one night, and he

677
00:38:56.519 --> 00:38:59.800
did this camp out every other weekend, Friday and Saturday,

678
00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:02.960
and so Thursday night he got up there a little

679
00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:04.639
bit too late, and he was going up the creek

680
00:39:04.639 --> 00:39:08.119
in his kayak twilight, and he stumbled upon an eight

681
00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:13.480
foot massive, massive what he said was a silverback here

682
00:39:13.559 --> 00:39:17.480
at the Wikiap Reservoir. And the only reason, the only

683
00:39:17.519 --> 00:39:19.199
reason this thing saw him was because he was so

684
00:39:19.360 --> 00:39:22.639
shocked that he kicked his paddle in the water to

685
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:24.519
turn the kayak to get a better view of this thing,

686
00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:27.920
which was eighty feet away. And this thing was up

687
00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:30.360
on a knoll looking down at the creek, and he

688
00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:34.280
described it like this thing was watching children play in water.

689
00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:37.639
It was very intent and didn't realize that the kayak

690
00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:39.440
was there until the paddle hit the water. And then

691
00:39:39.480 --> 00:39:43.639
this thing turned hard left and stared down at him

692
00:39:43.679 --> 00:39:47.679
in his kayak, and I truly believe that they both

693
00:39:48.079 --> 00:39:51.280
startled each other. I think this thing was looking for fish.

694
00:39:51.280 --> 00:39:53.280
I think the cocaine was starting to spawn, which was

695
00:39:53.320 --> 00:39:56.599
also late summer last year, and so he turned his

696
00:39:57.360 --> 00:39:59.440
two things. He's fifty eight years old, and he's a

697
00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:03.559
retired lot non believing longer. He had a forty five

698
00:40:03.599 --> 00:40:05.559
with him. No, it's a nine miler, I think, and

699
00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:09.840
his iPhone. It goes Randy. I when I saw this thing,

700
00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:13.079
and when it made eye contact with me, I froze

701
00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:17.719
with the paddle in the air, and then I urnated

702
00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:21.159
myself in my kayak and the kayak just floated back

703
00:40:21.159 --> 00:40:23.519
to the stream until I hit a bank and it

704
00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:27.480
popped me out of my trance or my paralysis, if

705
00:40:27.519 --> 00:40:29.440
you will. And then he goes, I just booked it

706
00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:32.320
out of there, and then something splashed next to me,

707
00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:34.119
and he goes, I really can't tell you if it

708
00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:36.920
was a fish or rock, and I need high tailed

709
00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:39.440
high tails at home. He was even to the point

710
00:40:39.480 --> 00:40:41.199
where like, I don't know the thing followed me home

711
00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:44.440
or not, but it was again, it was a it

712
00:40:44.519 --> 00:40:46.519
was a moment where I think they were both startled.

713
00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:49.960
The road crossing reports I get here. These things don't

714
00:40:49.960 --> 00:40:52.440
look left or right, which is absolutely amazing to me.

715
00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:55.920
They just go and sometimes in front of one or

716
00:40:56.360 --> 00:41:00.599
multiple cars, even in front of a highway Oregon State

717
00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:03.840
trooper and his wife. And that's a great report because

718
00:41:03.840 --> 00:41:06.400
that's the same silber. This man is trying to take

719
00:41:06.440 --> 00:41:09.320
an action picture within seconds, and he has a beautiful

720
00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:14.320
description of one crossing between Crescent and some mold the

721
00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:19.320
highway to keep turn off. But yeah, yeah, even the

722
00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:23.480
ones up by Planet East Lake, they are a non issue.

723
00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:27.159
I think they just want to be left alone and live.

724
00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:31.039
And I really don't have I just haven't. I just

725
00:41:31.079 --> 00:41:33.440
haven't gotten any report for people like the same chase me,

726
00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:35.760
the same streamed at me, the same hold at me.

727
00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:39.039
I do believe I absolutely back what you're saying too,

728
00:41:39.079 --> 00:41:42.679
because I've heard some really scary reports down south. So

729
00:41:42.840 --> 00:41:45.039
anything south of one point thirty eight year Crater Lake

730
00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:48.400
I call bad foot. And that's maybe not fair, but

731
00:41:48.760 --> 00:41:50.519
that area. I won't go by myself. I'm going to

732
00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:52.800
with a lot by myself. That area, I'll take a

733
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:55.280
partner with me or a buddy, because they there is

734
00:41:55.320 --> 00:41:58.440
a different attitude down there, and I'm not sure why.

735
00:41:58.599 --> 00:42:01.039
You know, maybe you know some group like people humans.

736
00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:03.360
Some groups are more angry. I don't know. Some I

737
00:42:03.400 --> 00:42:07.119
don't know. Some families are more angry. Pass maybe a hunter,

738
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:09.840
so many people, what have you. But that seems to

739
00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:12.320
be a more intimidating area for these things, for sure.

740
00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:16.159
So that's that's really interesting. I've gotten one report from

741
00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:18.519
down by Crater Lake and it was the lady I

742
00:42:18.559 --> 00:42:21.320
was supposed to talk to but she it didn't work out,

743
00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:24.880
and she was driving towards well, she was driving towards

744
00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:28.679
Crater Lake and she saw something cross the road. And

745
00:42:29.159 --> 00:42:31.440
she wasn't a bigfoot person, but she's like, it looked

746
00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:33.960
like a moss man, like a big tall man just

747
00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:37.599
covered with moss, which is really really weird. But you're

748
00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:40.639
saying that. So one thirty eight is the highway that

749
00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:45.239
goes looks like east to west north of Crater Lake, ish,

750
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:48.079
and you're seeing south of that highway like there's some

751
00:42:48.199 --> 00:42:51.719
really rough stuff that happens.

752
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:57.159
Yeah, I believe. I believe they seem to be a

753
00:42:57.199 --> 00:43:00.760
little more agitated down in that direction. So one eight

754
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:04.559
looking south and then parallel like Highway two thirty right

755
00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:06.960
if you look on your map there and two thirty

756
00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:09.639
head south. I just got another report from Highway two

757
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:13.039
thirty today. She was out last weekend and heard some

758
00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:15.800
howls and I said, be careful, go that's only spot.

759
00:43:15.800 --> 00:43:18.679
I'll tell you to be careful. And it is. I

760
00:43:18.719 --> 00:43:20.599
don't know if it's the Crater Lake thing, you know,

761
00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:24.599
I don't know. It's an area that I definitely caution

762
00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:25.400
for sure.

763
00:43:26.679 --> 00:43:31.039
So well, there must have been some some catalyst event

764
00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:33.599
that made it so that you will not go down

765
00:43:33.719 --> 00:43:38.000
in that area by yourself.

766
00:43:39.119 --> 00:43:43.679
Yeah, you could probably say that, Okay. I've heard some

767
00:43:43.840 --> 00:43:46.159
reports that have made me and plus I've talked to

768
00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:48.480
other people, and that's where the noise. I think the

769
00:43:48.559 --> 00:43:51.800
name was calling badfoot, and I hate to say it

770
00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:54.159
was a bad bigfoot, but it's just you know, if

771
00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:56.639
they're they're pissed off or something, they're just they just

772
00:43:57.119 --> 00:44:00.239
they're just a little bit more agitated down there. There

773
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:02.719
was no real event. For myself, I've never been put

774
00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:07.280
in that situation. I've never felt scared or threatened. But

775
00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:10.519
the reports that I've taken and heard from that area,

776
00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:12.920
I think, I think it's just an area to be.

777
00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:21.280
Cautious, just just curious. Anything in particular that jumps out

778
00:44:21.320 --> 00:44:24.800
in your memory of reports that you've taken from that

779
00:44:24.920 --> 00:44:26.559
area that would contribute to that.

780
00:44:29.360 --> 00:44:34.079
I have taken reports, nothing scary or intimidating. I have

781
00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:44.679
road crossing, two road crossing reports on one thirty eight vocalizations.

782
00:44:44.840 --> 00:44:48.320
I've gotten three that one most recent from this weekend

783
00:44:48.360 --> 00:44:52.320
off of off of two thirty in look up Rabbit Ears.

784
00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:57.800
It's a rock formation off of Highway too thirty heard

785
00:44:57.800 --> 00:45:01.280
and her husband for about thirty minutes heard something communicating

786
00:45:01.360 --> 00:45:04.119
with something. And they're non believers, but they they couldn't

787
00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:08.559
wait to tell me about it. And then go north

788
00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:13.039
in that Lomolo area next to Lomola Lake, you're heading

789
00:45:13.159 --> 00:45:18.599
north just north of Diamond Lake. If you look to

790
00:45:18.679 --> 00:45:20.920
the look to the west of Lamola Lake, there's a

791
00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:26.079
dread and Terror ridge and uh and people have told

792
00:45:26.079 --> 00:45:29.559
me that I've had two hunters that said something happened

793
00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:31.199
to them up there and they won't go back there.

794
00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:34.960
Big for society who will be right back after these messages.

795
00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:53.320
And of course it sounds really cool, dread and tear ridge, right,

796
00:45:54.800 --> 00:46:02.639
So yeah, I've had, you know, report but nothing that

797
00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:08.320
really strikes my attention to you know, being scary. Just

798
00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:12.400
more from people I've talked to, other stories I've heard,

799
00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:14.360
as far as reports that I've taken.

800
00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:18.559
Now, oh, so I'll rephrase the question a little bit

801
00:46:18.559 --> 00:46:21.199
differently then I then I'll move on. But so that

802
00:46:21.400 --> 00:46:24.519
area where there's like the bad foot stuff happening on,

803
00:46:24.679 --> 00:46:29.920
have you heard accounts that would specifically like you could

804
00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:32.239
point to that account and be like, oh, that's probably

805
00:46:33.119 --> 00:46:35.960
a big part of why it's called badfoot down.

806
00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:39.599
There in that area. Oh no, I have not. Okay,

807
00:46:39.679 --> 00:46:40.719
great question, I have not.

808
00:46:40.960 --> 00:46:43.760
No, all right, just just a weird feeling down there.

809
00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:46.119
We're not going to go out by ourselves and things

810
00:46:46.119 --> 00:46:48.320
could get pretty interesting, all right, fair enough?

811
00:46:48.519 --> 00:46:51.599
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely, yeah, just from the just

812
00:46:51.639 --> 00:46:55.000
from the stories I've heard and then talking to other researchers,

813
00:46:55.360 --> 00:46:56.480
it's an interesting area.

814
00:46:56.719 --> 00:47:01.079
So who knows, well, listeners, if you if you know

815
00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:04.519
of some crazy stuff that has gone down in that

816
00:47:04.639 --> 00:47:08.239
area south of one thirty eight and east of two

817
00:47:08.280 --> 00:47:12.639
thirty right that whole area. Yeah, feel free to yeah

818
00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:16.719
west of two thirty. Sorry, yeah, yeah, gotcha? All right?

819
00:47:16.760 --> 00:47:18.920
Cool that. Actually, you know, I want to ask, have

820
00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:23.199
you come to a decision or what's your current leaning

821
00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:26.880
as to what you think? You know? These these are

822
00:47:27.159 --> 00:47:30.480
out there? How do you how do you categorize bigfoot?

823
00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:36.599
Yeah? Well that's a good one, right, Yeah. I used

824
00:47:36.719 --> 00:47:43.199
to be confident it was a landlocked eight. I'm no

825
00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:45.280
longer confident that. The more I do this, the more

826
00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:48.400
i'm out in the woods, I think. I think, yes,

827
00:47:48.679 --> 00:47:52.639
possibly that, but also there's something more to it. I think,

828
00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:56.320
you know, I'm not much of an orbit guy, but

829
00:47:56.360 --> 00:48:01.039
I had an experience that changed my thought process on

830
00:48:01.360 --> 00:48:08.239
an investigation. So these things, I think, for the most part,

831
00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:12.159
act like primates, but they have the abilities that I

832
00:48:12.239 --> 00:48:18.559
cannot explain. So that would take it into I don't know,

833
00:48:18.559 --> 00:48:21.320
if it's quantum physics. I don't know. You know, this

834
00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:24.320
is the cloaking thing, a real thing. Possibly, I don't know,

835
00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:29.199
but I'm not sold on just flesh and blood landlocked primate.

836
00:48:29.280 --> 00:48:31.880
I think that's a piece of it. But there's another

837
00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:36.440
side of these things that is unexplained. There's abilities that

838
00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:40.920
they're able to perform that just haven't been explained yet.

839
00:48:41.280 --> 00:48:44.800
And I do believe that they're out there, and when

840
00:48:44.840 --> 00:48:46.719
they don't want to be seeing, they have a way

841
00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:49.519
of disappearing. It's the most craziest thing I've ever seen.

842
00:48:49.559 --> 00:48:52.760
I've had. I've seen prints to just stop, you know, like,

843
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:57.199
what the heck? Why? So you see enough of that stuff? Right?

844
00:48:57.199 --> 00:48:59.920
I see that the more you're out there, the more

845
00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:04.639
start to experience things that are unexplained. And that's the

846
00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:07.119
piece that's still very much a mystery for me, Like,

847
00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:10.400
you know, how can I not see this with a

848
00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:13.960
flear How can I not see this thing with night vision?

849
00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:16.679
But I can hear it? Right? So that's that's the

850
00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:19.280
challenging part for me. But I love it. I think

851
00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:22.599
these things. I feel very very very very blessed that

852
00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:25.119
they are not far from where I live and I

853
00:49:25.119 --> 00:49:28.079
can go and and learn about them and respect them

854
00:49:28.320 --> 00:49:30.880
and try not to be an inconvenience. Just more of

855
00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:33.079
a benign observer is my goal.

856
00:49:33.480 --> 00:49:37.119
I love that are our ways of looking at it

857
00:49:37.199 --> 00:49:40.800
are very similar. And I mean, yeah, if I lived

858
00:49:40.800 --> 00:49:43.440
out there, dude, I would get nothing done. It would

859
00:49:43.440 --> 00:49:45.960
be rough. I would be out there all the time,

860
00:49:46.239 --> 00:49:48.000
so it's probably why I don't live out there.

861
00:49:48.639 --> 00:49:51.519
Yeah, you're as You're right, it becomes a challenge, you know,

862
00:49:51.599 --> 00:49:55.639
we're empty nesters and and I yeah, I put off

863
00:49:55.679 --> 00:49:57.000
a lot of stuff I need to do all my

864
00:49:57.159 --> 00:49:59.519
property in my house because I'm just out in the

865
00:49:59.559 --> 00:50:03.079
woods tracking and learning. But you're right, it's it's it

866
00:50:03.119 --> 00:50:05.559
can be highly addictive and got to be careful to

867
00:50:05.599 --> 00:50:06.719
have a little bit of balance too.

868
00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:12.559
We experienced a weird phenomenon out in the woods in

869
00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:16.159
let's say Oakridge area, and I'm curious if you've ever

870
00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:20.000
experienced it out in your area where sounds were picked

871
00:50:20.039 --> 00:50:24.719
up on audio. No one heard it live except for

872
00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:27.599
one person in the group. Have you ever experienced anything

873
00:50:27.639 --> 00:50:27.840
like that?

874
00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:31.199
Wow? I have not.

875
00:50:31.599 --> 00:50:33.079
Okay, interesting, that's a good one.

876
00:50:33.199 --> 00:50:34.719
That's a real good one. Yeah.

877
00:50:34.800 --> 00:50:38.880
Yeah, it was just it's very very strange. It was

878
00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:43.599
like a weird, a weird whooping type sound. Yeah, and

879
00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:46.800
only one person heard it in the group. Actually happened.

880
00:50:47.880 --> 00:50:51.880
Is very strange. Have you ever experienced infrasound out there

881
00:50:52.280 --> 00:50:53.079
that you're aware of.

882
00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:57.000
I am not correct if I'm If it did, I

883
00:50:57.079 --> 00:51:00.039
wasn't aware of it, then no, not not nothing that

884
00:51:00.039 --> 00:51:00.599
that struck me.

885
00:51:00.679 --> 00:51:03.039
Now, okay, interesting, but I.

886
00:51:03.000 --> 00:51:07.519
Do believe that's the thing, and I don't know. I

887
00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:09.400
will tell you I do believe it's the thing because

888
00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:13.119
most of my class A reports there's a sense of

889
00:51:13.119 --> 00:51:16.239
paralysis with it. I don't know if it's body, the

890
00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:18.639
human body going in to shock and trying to classify

891
00:51:18.639 --> 00:51:21.719
what they saw, or if this thing really has the

892
00:51:21.800 --> 00:51:28.039
ability to form a moment of proalysis or the sound. So, yes,

893
00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:30.199
I believe that's the thing. I'm starting to believe that.

894
00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:33.119
I'm still very much I always call myself a learner,

895
00:51:33.519 --> 00:51:35.880
and so I am open to learning more about that.

896
00:51:35.960 --> 00:51:38.719
And I'm starting to see definitely a correlation to most

897
00:51:38.719 --> 00:51:41.480
of my class A reports of having that experience.

898
00:51:41.800 --> 00:51:44.199
So that's really interesting. I want to share another thing

899
00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:48.800
that happened out in this area by Oakridge the last

900
00:51:48.960 --> 00:51:51.719
I think I've mentioned this maybe briefly and passive, but

901
00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:54.320
we were sitting at the edge of a meadow and

902
00:51:54.400 --> 00:51:57.119
I was sitting in a chair looking into the tree line,

903
00:51:57.719 --> 00:52:01.119
and for a good five minutes, I was not able

904
00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:05.719
to move at all, and it was just like just

905
00:52:05.719 --> 00:52:07.159
just could not move, and then all of a sudden,

906
00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:09.480
it was like, you know, then I can move again.

907
00:52:09.559 --> 00:52:11.599
I was like, well, what in the world just happened there?

908
00:52:11.719 --> 00:52:14.599
There was very strange. So is that similar to other

909
00:52:14.639 --> 00:52:17.320
reports you've gotten, Like you said, there are some paralysis

910
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:18.159
maybe involved.

911
00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:21.719
Yeah, you know, I'm going to say yours is pretty

912
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:25.559
that's pretty significant. I would say most of my reports

913
00:52:25.639 --> 00:52:30.639
are class A reports. Are people who are frozen and

914
00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:33.920
trying to figure out what's happening, what's looking at me?

915
00:52:34.039 --> 00:52:36.679
What is that thing? And feel like they don't have

916
00:52:36.719 --> 00:52:39.960
the ability to move And I don't know if that's

917
00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:42.519
the human body going into a little bit of a

918
00:52:42.519 --> 00:52:47.639
shock or when this thing's making that eye contact it's

919
00:52:48.000 --> 00:52:52.039
infra sound, a combination of both, but not to your extreme.

920
00:52:52.079 --> 00:52:53.039
That's pretty powerful.

921
00:52:54.559 --> 00:52:56.519
It's just it was a really weird thing.

922
00:52:56.760 --> 00:53:00.599
Yeah, did you feel sick afterwards? Did you feel nauchious? No?

923
00:53:00.760 --> 00:53:03.119
But you know, keep in mind that I was. I

924
00:53:03.239 --> 00:53:05.760
probably had a fever by that time, because the next

925
00:53:05.840 --> 00:53:09.159
day I had to go out to Springfield to urgent

926
00:53:09.199 --> 00:53:13.119
care for my legs, right, which the doctor had no

927
00:53:13.199 --> 00:53:18.440
idea how that happened. Ah, And they were like, they

928
00:53:18.440 --> 00:53:22.039
were like, it's probably cellulitis, Which is funny because the

929
00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:24.000
print out they gave me. There's like one of the

930
00:53:24.039 --> 00:53:31.920
causes his like can be exposure to like like some

931
00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:34.800
kind of like radiation type deal. But I think it's

932
00:53:34.800 --> 00:53:37.840
probably a fly bite or a few fly bites that

933
00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:41.800
got like maybe messed up with some stuff in the meadow.

934
00:53:41.840 --> 00:53:42.280
Who knows.

935
00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:46.679
Did your skin and I don't want to know, did

936
00:53:46.679 --> 00:53:48.679
your skin bubble up at all? Did it feel like

937
00:53:48.719 --> 00:53:49.480
it was a bad burn?

938
00:53:49.840 --> 00:53:52.719
No, but it was it was swallowing. Okay, crazy, yah.

939
00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:57.679
Yeah, gotcha? Okay, interesting, that's crazy.

940
00:53:57.880 --> 00:54:02.440
Yeah, you mentioned that a few times Tobe and Darryl's

941
00:54:02.519 --> 00:54:05.280
name have come up. Yes, have you gone over to

942
00:54:05.400 --> 00:54:08.320
the Owl Moon Lab in the Wilderness area and done

943
00:54:08.360 --> 00:54:09.320
anythings over there?

944
00:54:10.440 --> 00:54:13.159
Yeah? Yeah, I did. I went over. I'm known Darryl

945
00:54:13.400 --> 00:54:17.239
when he first moved to Oregon and met him in

946
00:54:17.320 --> 00:54:20.280
his group and became friends. And then he moved from

947
00:54:20.320 --> 00:54:23.239
Glyde and bought that house there, and he was telling

948
00:54:23.239 --> 00:54:25.679
me he's getting moved in, I'll settled in, And then

949
00:54:25.719 --> 00:54:27.760
he texted me one day he goes there's something there's

950
00:54:27.800 --> 00:54:31.199
monkeys up in the ridge. I'm like what, and he goes, yeah,

951
00:54:31.239 --> 00:54:33.880
there's monkeys. I swears there's like there's crazy monkeys here,

952
00:54:34.440 --> 00:54:38.599
and so our relationship furthered. And then he he said, Hey,

953
00:54:38.639 --> 00:54:41.840
I met this guy Toby. I call him Toby Johnson.

954
00:54:41.880 --> 00:54:44.000
I go, I for to Toby and he's coming out

955
00:54:44.039 --> 00:54:45.800
to my place, Like no way, he goes, Yeah, he's

956
00:54:45.800 --> 00:54:49.320
going to come investigate what's going on in the Ridgeways.

957
00:54:49.320 --> 00:54:52.079
Long story short, I went over there a couple times

958
00:54:52.079 --> 00:54:55.360
with my group. I took my family over there, my wife,

959
00:54:55.400 --> 00:54:59.199
two kids, and significant others, and Darryl and Mark Parker

960
00:54:59.320 --> 00:55:01.679
took us on, took us down to their little area there,

961
00:55:01.679 --> 00:55:04.800
and Mark is such a cool guy, and basically just

962
00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:08.000
learned what they were experiencing. And then I took some

963
00:55:08.079 --> 00:55:11.159
teammates from my group and did a couple of overnighters

964
00:55:11.199 --> 00:55:14.800
there and nothing significant happened that I was aware of.

965
00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:18.679
But it's a really, really interesting location. There's a lot

966
00:55:18.719 --> 00:55:22.760
of things happening there. It's it's almost overwhelming. And yeah,

967
00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:23.840
it's a cool place.

968
00:55:23.679 --> 00:55:27.360
Man, I'd be interested. I always say, is the stuff

969
00:55:27.400 --> 00:55:30.400
still happening today? Now there's a new owner to the property,

970
00:55:30.440 --> 00:55:32.079
I wonder if the stuff is starting.

971
00:55:33.519 --> 00:55:37.400
Yeah. So I talked to Darryl and he said, yes,

972
00:55:37.960 --> 00:55:42.239
not as much the house itself is weird. It's crazy.

973
00:55:42.480 --> 00:55:45.039
So there's stuff with the house where the new owners

974
00:55:45.079 --> 00:55:48.880
don't go upstairs at all. But he Daryl, I was

975
00:55:48.920 --> 00:55:54.360
supposed to go on Toby's expedition Strange Days and something

976
00:55:54.360 --> 00:55:56.880
came up and I missed that one too, and Daryl

977
00:55:56.960 --> 00:56:00.079
went on it. And from there, Daryl went that to

978
00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:03.119
al noon Lad before going back to Oklahoma, and he said, yeah,

979
00:56:03.159 --> 00:56:06.559
he sent sent out some pitchers to me both the Prince.

980
00:56:06.760 --> 00:56:09.559
So I think they're still there. I still think they're

981
00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:12.400
habitating that area and doing business as usual in there.

982
00:56:13.960 --> 00:56:17.960
Mmmm. Oh yeah, I mean the stuff that that I hear.

983
00:56:18.800 --> 00:56:21.960
I mean that whole area College Grove and like, I

984
00:56:21.960 --> 00:56:24.800
don't know if you've ever heard of Sharp's Creek. I

985
00:56:24.800 --> 00:56:31.320
think it's Sharp's No, that's a really crazy area. Yeah.

986
00:56:31.480 --> 00:56:33.400
I don't know if you ever get over there, put

987
00:56:33.440 --> 00:56:34.519
that in the back of your head.

988
00:56:35.480 --> 00:56:37.320
Sharp's Creek and that's in College Grove.

989
00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:42.119
No, it's it's it's actually over by Colp Creek. You

990
00:56:42.119 --> 00:56:44.559
go over to College Grove, but then you you drive

991
00:56:44.719 --> 00:56:48.599
like way past Durina Lake, and that was like it's

992
00:56:48.599 --> 00:56:49.960
out there, so.

993
00:56:50.159 --> 00:56:53.440
Gotcha, okay, okay, yeah, but no, I have not been there,

994
00:56:53.440 --> 00:56:55.519
but I'll put it. Yeah, I'll put it on my list.

995
00:56:55.679 --> 00:56:56.519
I got a long list.

996
00:56:57.800 --> 00:56:59.719
No, that's the thing I mean, I I can't imagine

997
00:56:59.719 --> 00:57:02.119
living out there like your list would just keep growing

998
00:57:02.239 --> 00:57:03.400
and growing growing.

999
00:57:03.280 --> 00:57:03.679
It does.

1000
00:57:04.000 --> 00:57:06.199
Have you ever heard of a place called Baboon Creek

1001
00:57:06.239 --> 00:57:06.639
out there?

1002
00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:08.800
Diamond Creek?

1003
00:57:08.840 --> 00:57:11.840
I have, Sorry, Baboon Creek I have?

1004
00:57:11.960 --> 00:57:12.280
Yes.

1005
00:57:12.599 --> 00:57:15.440
Have you heard of any things that have happened around there?

1006
00:57:16.159 --> 00:57:19.920
No, I have not, but it's I think that's one

1007
00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:24.639
of Toby's areas. Can you explore that? Yeap? Oh? Okay, okay,

1008
00:57:24.840 --> 00:57:27.719
Because I remember Toby talking about bad Boom Creek. I

1009
00:57:27.719 --> 00:57:30.239
think that was one of his research spots. I love

1010
00:57:30.280 --> 00:57:33.320
to go check it out. I'm afraid I reasonablieve it

1011
00:57:33.440 --> 00:57:37.800
burned last year. Okay, yeah yeah, and it's not far

1012
00:57:37.840 --> 00:57:40.599
from my area as well, but yeah, i'd love to

1013
00:57:40.719 --> 00:57:41.320
check that out.

1014
00:57:41.920 --> 00:57:49.000
Yeah, man, it's just I Yeah, early July, I'll you

1015
00:57:49.039 --> 00:57:49.679
out there again.

1016
00:57:50.760 --> 00:57:53.880
Well, I love to words. We'll drag you over here

1017
00:57:53.920 --> 00:57:56.760
for a few days and and see, I see if

1018
00:57:56.800 --> 00:57:57.880
you can knock your socks off.

1019
00:57:58.599 --> 00:58:04.119
Oh dude, m yeah, Well we'll talk in a minute.

1020
00:58:04.199 --> 00:58:04.440
Man.

1021
00:58:04.480 --> 00:58:08.000
It has been just a pleasure talking to you, Randy.

1022
00:58:08.079 --> 00:58:12.239
I need to really get more familiar with what your

1023
00:58:12.440 --> 00:58:15.840
group is up to there and start following all your stuff.

1024
00:58:15.960 --> 00:58:19.159
But what is the best way that people can can

1025
00:58:19.239 --> 00:58:21.760
keep up to date with what the Ben Bigfoot Research

1026
00:58:21.840 --> 00:58:22.760
Group is up to.

1027
00:58:23.079 --> 00:58:26.000
We're just on Facebook, so that's the best way. Go

1028
00:58:26.079 --> 00:58:30.360
on Facebook, type in Bend Bigfoot Research Group a couple

1029
00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:33.280
of questions, we'll pull you into group. We don't put

1030
00:58:33.360 --> 00:58:38.639
up with any advertisements. It is evidence and local events.

1031
00:58:39.000 --> 00:58:41.480
If you have something constructive or scientific to share, we

1032
00:58:41.639 --> 00:58:45.320
love that. So it's a learning platform with a combination

1033
00:58:45.400 --> 00:58:48.800
of a safe place to tell a story and we

1034
00:58:48.880 --> 00:58:53.000
always as much as I can, post often and sharing

1035
00:58:53.000 --> 00:58:55.559
recent events. So we'd love to have people on there.

1036
00:58:56.599 --> 00:59:00.039
That's fantastic. Well, well, Randy, thank you so much for

1037
00:59:00.360 --> 00:59:03.039
coming on the show. Is been just a real fun

1038
00:59:03.039 --> 00:59:04.239
time chatting with you tonight.

1039
00:59:05.360 --> 00:59:08.119
Absolutely love your work as well. Thank you for all

1040
00:59:08.199 --> 00:59:08.639
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1041
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