Sasquatch on the Prowl at Cultus Lake, Oregon!

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0:43 Welcome to big for Society. If you have Bigfoot activity to report from the same areas discussed in this episode, please reach out to me directly after this episode, and if you'd like to be on the podcast to discuss a personal Bigfoot encounter, please reach out to me directly at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. Do you wish there was more Bigfoot Society to listen to every week? Well there is now. If you become a supporting member over at Patreon, you get a special members only episode every single week on Wednesdays, and sometimes even more episodes head on over to Patreon dot com, Forward slash the Bigfoot Society, and now let's get on with the show, all right, PICKFO Society. I've got the privilege of talking to Randy Sylvie today. He's an individual that I've been having some correspondence about. He had reached out to me about Cultis Lake and the listeners of the show. I've definitely heard that mentioned at least once in a prior episode.

1:41 And Randy's also with the Bend Bigfoot Research Group, so it's exciting to have him on the show today. How are you doing, Randy? Oh, I'm doing excellent. Thank you for having me. Wow, man, I am excited to have you on this whole area that we're looking at right now. And you're over by the Shoots National Forest, you know, over there by band and sat Sun River and La Pine, and I got familiar with Oakridge and will lam It. But man, I got to get over there next year. Maybe I'll maybe I'll go a little bit east. But dude, I'm so excited to talk to you about what you've experienced and what you've heard out there. But let's start with this, Randy, how did you first get into this whole wild bigfoot stuff.

2:24 Oh, great question. I'll make a brief a younger kid, of course, I watched a six million Dollar Man and I saw that creature on there and refer to the big platter of Sasquatch. I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm fascinating. Even though with television and then later on Canada this spoof, my wife's grandmother got me a membership to Western Bigfoot Society that was located in Saint John's, Oregon. Ray Crow was actually the gentleman started that group, and it was a fun little membership where every few months you get this skeptical, trifled little newsletter of the latest things going on in and around the Pacific Northwest. And God just fueled me even more. I went to a couple of meetings and even hung out with a gentleman by the name of Peter Burn, who I didn't think that meant anything until later on in my journey of bigfoot world.

3:18 So I did a couple of research papers in college and really enjoyed the topic even more and became just kind of quietly fascinated with the topic. Co workers knew about it and kind of poke fun at me. But for the most part, I kept it reserveding to myself, and one day or one evening, a coworker called me at two in the morning and he was traveling from Salem back to Bend from a family reunion. He had to get to work, so it's two in the morning. He's coming around Subtle Lake there and whatever he saw I scared him to the point of calling me and leaving me a voicemail that something walked in front of his truck on the highway, and he said, I'm a non believer, but now I believe you, Randy, and I'll never make fun of you again. So from then on I took that information and went on my first expedition with BFRL soon thereafter, and met some great people doing that expedition, and went on several several more, and then decided to start my own group here in central Oregon, where we respond to local reports here, collecting as much hard evidence as possible and trying to be careful to filter that at as scientifically as possible. And so I have now pretty much. I get reports often. My name is definitely out there locally, and it's fun. It's a great hobby. So I'm in the woods most of my free time researching, following up in reports. Tracking. I really love tracking, and it just seems like I'm getting busy and busier with local reports and having just a lot

4:50 of fun with it. But also my group is a great group for people to have a safe platform to share what they may have experienced here locally Central Oregon. So that's pretty much me in a nutshell. I love that it's so important to have someone in the area that people can trust. You get how it works out there because you live in the area and just the people can talk to you directly. That is so so important. Were you a BFROO investigator as well, or you just went to a few expeditions correct? I was not. I was curious about it, but I never really followed up on it. I probably have gone on a couple of dozen BFRL expeditions. I certainly enjoyed them that I kind of wanted to branch off and do my own thing, and so that's what I've done.

5:45 I do love the networking part of the BFRL crew, really really kind people knowledgeable, But I did not become a bfr investigator. I am my own investigator, not affiliated with anyone, just out there at the grassroots level of talking to people, so responding to their reports, interviewing them, deciding if it's more of a misidentification or if it's worth gathering another teammate and going to investigate the area and interview with person. That is fantastic. Were those all expeditions based out of Oregon? Then? Correct? Yeah?

6:26 Did anything cool happen on any of those expeditions that you were on? Nothing? Notable? No, And I think, you know, I think expeditions are fun for people who are curious about the topic, but I think for any hard evidence to come from those expeditions, it's just there's too many people. It's a lot of chaos, and I think when you have a lot of I've had a backtrack. I did have a pretty interesting experience in Mount Hood on my first expedition, which I should say that really feeled me even more. And that's only because I did a remote camp on that expedition and so we had the home base. But then I volunteered to go and do a remote camp for one night with two other gentlemen up with the base amount of Hood, and that's where I had an amazing experience. So I went, Okay, there's something to this.

7:13 So that trip really was pretty fruitful, especially for me. But for the most part, I think there's this too many people and one spot in the woods, you know, and wackon trees and hoot and holler, and you know, I get that. It's just I just don't think it's conducive for these things to come out and be curious about you, you know. Yeah, no, I totally get it. I've never been on one yet, but it is really good networking experience. But would you be able to share what happened that experience you kind of alluded to just then up in mountains? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we we did our evening meeting and dinner and then we put on I volunteered earlier today. They were looking for volunteers, and it was my first trip, and I'm like, yeah, I'm just going to send it.

7:56 I mean, this is why I'm here, right. So I gathered for a few belongings and two other gentlemen right after an evening meeting and we height oh. Maybe a mile and a half to a remote, killer, remote little lake it's called Cripple Lake, and going through the forest with red light only or no light and the forest was dead silent and just thick and dark and just kind of airy feeling. Anyways, and we set up camp along the creek or lake, I should say. There's a little fire pit that was over there. So we got a little fire going and we're kind of chit chatting, and now it's probably ten thirty nine, maybe eleven, and the one of the gentleman who had been on a few expeditions, he said, okay, let's see if there's anything here, and he took a decent stick and he hit the tree and he goes, okay, now, let's just sit and listen. Give it. About ten minutes, nothing happened, and he goes, okay, let's do it again.

8:51 So it did again, and about ten minutes later after that one, we got a percussive knock across the leg and my eye just went and they go, oh, okay, there we go, and then he responded to it, and then another one coming to from my three o'clock responded and this went on gosh, for a couple hours. They were responding from different directions, so across the lake being my twelve o'clock, we together I responded from like seven o'clock, and then our three o'clock again and they would kind of move. So each tree knock we did two hard tree knocks and usually it resulted and one of those three responding to us. And it's it got a little nerve wracking because the source of these percussives were moving and we had flear and I remember seeing a kyle, but we didn't see anything else. And I thought that was baffling at the time. Now now it doesn't surprise me, but and I said, well, where you know the where these notes come from, And there's only one trail in and there's no way to the backside, so someone's on backside something as responding, and then there's other things responding to it and us. So it got to the point where the gentleman, as a veteran, here's a marine who started these tree knocks and kind of led this remote camp.

10:15 And he got really really kind of unnerved and even pulled out his put on a tree stop and he goes, Okay, we're gonna go to sleep. We're gonna do cowboy camp. And he goes, God forbid if something happens, that gun is right there and probably unorthodox for a B four O trip, but it just added a little bit of peace of mind. And these knockings knocks, I should say, continued until about four in the morning, and then we woke up a daybreak and went back to camp, and holy cow, I couldn't believe you know what I was hearing. And it definitely put me in the high gear of learning more about the subject. Sounds like you are just in it and no way out.

10:57 Yeah, and it was really well done. That One had a couple of classes that you were asked to take and so, and one of them was learning you know, learning all the different vocalizations in the forest and learning your forest and Chris Spencer taught it and I just became a huge admirer of his work of studying digital audio and learning you know, what's making that noise and what's that noise. So there's a class on that, and there was a class on casting, and I go, wow, this is really this is really something. This is very productive. And so you're right, that's that was probably what definitely propelled me into diving, just drinking the kool aid and going completely deep down the rabbit hole.

11:38 Absolutely. Then you get back to your own area, which is like the Shoots National Forest Area, it sounds like you start going in and doing your own thing. Correct, Yeah, yeah, And I was, you know, after probably six more expeditions, I said, you know what, I think we got some stuff here locally, and I'm going to start my own group. So I got a couple of buddies together we created then Bigfoot Research Group. We did a town hall I started doing every other month. I do what's called Squatch and Bruise. And it was a little piece of joint with a secluded room and it'd be a Thursday evening at six o'clock, go down, have a size of pizza and a bear. And I tried to have a guest speaker. I tried to have some substance to the meeting. You know, let's talk about local reports, let's talk about following up or what was followed up on reports. And then I tried to have a guest speaker of some sort, and so people could walk away with something tangible. But more importantly, like I mentioned earlier, it was a safe place for people. If they wanted to speak, they could speak. They could just show up and leave and not talk to anyone but to find.

12:41 But again it was a safe platform, a safe room where they could tell their story, get it off their shoulders, and feel like they were recognized and not ridiculed. And that was a really big It's still a very important thing for me because it's such a taboo step subject. Even today it's getting better. But so I was doing that, and then just from that, and then putting a group on Facebook started slowly getting reports and now it's definitely taking taking a motion of its own. And now I'm getting reports consistently and I do filter them. I decided, you know, okay, this is a misidentification, but I always let that person tell the story and then I decide how far to go with it. So primarily most of my reports are all here. I have researched out and tell them up Forrest, and then I've spent a couple of trips over with Darryl and Toby learning and that's exactly just going there and learning what I can do better and as far as collecting evidence, and then I come back here and try to apply it and use some of their message or mythology. And so yeah, the group is growing. We've got some great stuff going on here in central Oregon. Again, think these things were here and they are definitely here and just enjoy getting out there and trying to understand the habitat and respect what these things are.

14:10 Oh man, I agree, I agree so much. I mean, it's it's incredibly you don't hear more about Central Oregon because it's like everyone gets you know, they're talking about like Olympic Peninsula and like Washington and Mount Hood, which is cool. I mean those those places are great, but like dude, Central organ is nuts. Like the stuff that is happening there. I don't think people even realize the stuff that's going on in there. I absolutely agree. I just recently this year met up with a gentleman who who's been researching the other side of my area up by Polane in East Lake, and he's got amazing stuff happening up there as well, which I did not realize. I've been most mostly focusing. So my research area is the North Quah Summit Lake Tip in August, all the way north to No Bachelor, a little bit in the Sisters area. But my heart reports that I respond to seem to be happening within thirty minutes of my front door.

15:16 Big for a society who will be right back after these messages. And so that's why I really focus on. So you are talking about the Summit Summit, Okay, Summit Lake, got it? Yep, Yeah, you see it, yep, yep, yep. That's a great area. So that that takes you. I've done a lot of research down here, and now that will take you right to Oak Ridge the backside, and I'll drop you down the Hills Creek Reservoir. But there's a tip and August Lake. I've gotten some reports out of there, and then also Loa Moolo Lake. I've done a lot of a lot of footwork in there. We've got some great reports from thelo also near Diamond Lake. That area some great stuff. But it's you really have to be in that area a lot, and it's just hard with the fires and the snow now to get in there.

16:22 And it's it's getting true from my little area here, but that that range that's kind of my favorite area is just going up along the spine there basically floing the PCT trail and then you cross Crescent across Highway fifty eight and then you go up towards Waldo Chelton Lake right along Coultie and it keeps going up. I just think there's it's just the beautiful. It's thick in there, a lot of water, there's food cover, of course, And I truly think that maybe they kind of teetered back and forth over on the on the west side a little bit where it's a little warmer, milder maybe, and then back over here in the summer or late summer. So who knows. Some people think they migrate here some thing, maybe not the more regional I'm still learning that. I don't have a great answer for that. But it seems like fall. I think with most researchers, this is my game time. It seems like all the actions starts mid August and goes right into November.

17:19 Dude, I'm telling and you know I don't live there. I experienced it for a week and I talk to people over the phone for a podcast. Right, they're not migrating out of Oakridge. They're living and O like they have to be living in Oakridge around that type of like you go to that town and you can talk to anyone in that town and there's a good ninety percent chance that they will have a big Foot encounter story to share. It is the most insane, and that might be how it is out there and I'm just not used to it. Maybe that's like that in other towns too, but it was nuts. Dude, that's great. I'm glad you had a good time to experience. I'm glad you're coming back. You will have to next time. We'll have to drag you over here and you can hang out with us for a little bit.

18:07 Oh absolutely, man, Yeah, because there's uh, there's this like bigfoot bar and where is it? It's like, you know what I'm talking about though. I do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's one of my favorite places to go because I've been up in the mountains. I'll stop there on the way home and have a sandwich and a beer. That's awesome. Vern Yeah, yes, that's the place. So tell me. You know, in your in your time doing research out there in the woods, have you had any of the ordinary encounters or anything that you've experienced that was just it was a little weird or or you think it might have been related to Bigfoot?

18:48 Yeah, you know, I have in multiple different areas, I've experienced vocalizations, percussive, you know, loud crazy tree offs like it sounded like a four bar for hitting a tree one hundred feet away. From your tent with other people with me, vocalizations coming from the Tillamuck Forest. Some of the craziest stuff I've heard from there, seeing prints over in the al Moon Lab, finding i would say, impressions, and seeing some prince here locally, probably my most recent really crazy stuff to the point where it got my wife's attention. And this is Cultist Lake again. I've gotten probably six more reports from Cultus Lake in the last two months. You know, is this recent trip I went as a We went as a family trip, and my wife knows that Cultis is one of my research areas, but I promised her we would go as a family and just do family stuff. So we loaded up the boat.

19:49 And you have to get to this camp site via boat only or you hike in. So that adds a little bit of excitement to right, a little bit in the steep. So we load up just this little old daylight. I know. We have my daughter and my boyfriend was so the four of us are to our campgear and culture is like now it's empty, it's closed, people have gone home. The party's over. Right, you have that entire lake to yourself, which is why I love this time here and we boted over to across a late beautiful you know, seventy degrees beached. The boat got ten set up and it's a picnic table, fire ring and an outhouse and a beautiful sandy beach. And so we were there just to do family stuff, you know. So we great time, wakeboarded and good food and had some friends come up and we played games at night. Night number one was great, had a blast, and I'm really focusing on not listening to anything or going for a little random hip by myself or tracking. I'm being a husband, right, I'm cooking and laughing. And so night number two we went to bed, woke and my wife is she's pretty logic, black and white. Everything has a reason. In night number two, who it was five fifteen in the morning, I un zipped the tent to outside. You taken quickly, and as soon as I unzipped the tent, got my shoes, took two steps from the tent, something howled and roared at the same time across the cove, and then a tree crashed, and I went, oh, okay. In my mind were going yeahhoo,

21:22 but I was really calm, And my wife goes, what the heck was that I'm like, oh, it's not like an animal or tree, you know, a really really working hard to downplay it. Meantime, my heart is jumping. I'm so excited, and so I take a few more steps do my business, and I can hear a crazy loud tree knock coming from my left or a ridge, so something howld tree crashed And a few seconds later there's a response from a ridge above us. And now my wife's going, what what's going on after him? I don't know. I think another tree fell or a branch or something. So I get back in the tent, get my super bag, and she's trying to do so everything, like why God, so what do you think that is? I go, I don't know, And you know, it's just, you know, trees fall all the time, which they do. And so fifteen minutes of this discussion, we're kind of whispering. It's still dark, still early. Now we're hearing tree snaps, tree breaks, sticks hitting trees, something whacking trees in the campsites to our left, probably three hundred feet away. But it's really sick, dark green, lush, so you can't see clearly. It's just because of all the growth, but also it's still dark. And so now my wife's going, well, what is that? I go, well, I don't know. You know, I'm being really, really logical.

22:42 I don't want to get excited about anything. I'm trying to remain calm for her and have explanations because you know, a lot of things can be explained. There's no win. Everything's dead still, but something is or some things is gathering, breaking sticks, hitting sticks with trees and walking. You can hear clear two or two feet by peedlehamaad walking about four campsites over. And I said, well, maybe maybe some hikers came in. You know, it's a two and a half hour hike, so maybe some hikers came in and they're gathering wood. And I said, well, now I'm explaining that to her. I go, well, that can't be. I mean, who would hike in the middle of the night. I go, oh, maybe tweakers. So great, now we got tweakers back here, but they can't have a fire. Says no fire. Why they were they doing gathering trees and snapping trees? And then I hear one from above the ridge again, I'm like, well, that must be a hiker up there too. So now there's like two hikers here and it's dark out, and so now it's five forty five and she's like, what is and it's loud, and my daughter from her dad goes, Dad, what's all that noise? Who's over there? I'm like, I don't know. He can't see. So I ends up my tent grab a flash slight. The boyfriend does, and we both accept it's issues on and we both start going to research where this noise is. Who are these people?

24:07 And I'm starting to really believe like there are people here. This is nuts. And we walk Gosh, we were going probably thirty minutes. I'll tell you it was in the first five minutes of us walking towards that source of the noise, everything went quiet in the forest and we're walking and we're looking for disturbance and the dirt. I'm thinking, Okay, maybe Elk is back here, maybe he's sitting in the trees. And the gentleman is with me, he's an avid bow hunter and out doors and he goes, oh, there's no Elk signer. They normally don't do that. So I'm okay, so it's not that. Maybe it's a third Maybe maybe it really is people the ground is not disturbed. It still has that that it rained a couple of days prior, so it still had the formation, you know, where the rain dropped it hit all the dirt, and nothing's disturbed it since. So there's no fresh disturbed dirt. There's no tracks, there's no footprints, there's no disturbance at all in this entire campground. So he and I, after thirty minutes, go back and now my wife's sitting by the propane campfire and my daughter is and we're like, oh, what's the fine do you do? You see anything? Who's here? And I go we found zip. There's not a single soul here, it's just us. Well, it can't be. And so we sat down in a chair and it started back up and I'm like, what the heck, but farther away, get back out of my chair. And then it stopped and it stayed to stop. So I'm like, oh my gosh.

25:30 So we finished the weekend. We had another night there, it was quiet, had a great time, loaded up the boat, went back home. I posted this on my on my face group, our Facebook group, and the reports started rolling in and then I had some co researchers who were going to be in town. I said, oh, look, do you mind taking us up there? We got some audio equipment and we had some parabolic dishes. Do you mind taking this up there? Well? Now, sure, why not? So it's one week later, so we hopped back to my boat. I take him across the lake. Saint scenario, mild weather, clear, still, no wind, no people, not a single soul. They get their parabolics set up on the beach and Night number one is quiet, as I suspect they just opened up fire season to wait a small fire. And then night number two, sorry, Day number two started hearing some occasional tree knocks, and I go, okay, and here we go.

26:24 Now I get to be researcher guy. I don't have to be husband and good father, right, So now I'm excited, and so we're started hearing some vocalizations and a lot of things that made to scratch her head. And Night number two we went to bed. The audio recorders were set up to record from six am to six pm, and these parabolic dishes were shoot probably four hundred yards apart, tucked away. They're on the shore of the lake, but they're top back towards trees a little bit so you didn't see him clearly to walk right up on him. And so we went to bed at ten o'clock. I went to bed a little elier and then and again this recording we didn't we didn't hear these recordings. A gentleman dame goes through the recording till about a week later, unfortunately.

27:21 But we went to bed at ten and the recorder picked up something an hour and a half later. So eleven twenty eight you can hear a little bit of snoring, and then you hear something walking down the beach, very clear, heavy biped commonoid human two fat, two foot stride, heavy coming down the beach in the saft sand, and it's a crunch crunch, and as it gets closer to the parabolic the crunch is loud, and it walks right up to the parabolic dish, pauses briefly, and then curves back out and starts walking down the rest of the beach.

28:08 The parabolic dish is probably thirty feet from the first ten, behind some fir trees. As it walks away, another one lighterfoot biped, nice stride, lighter foot in the sand, walks up to the parabolic also but stands there and I assume is just checking it out and staring. The other one you can hear in the background slowly walking away, and then this one goes, oh, oh, I need to catch up to that one, and so starts to walk off, starts to walk faster, faster, and then breaks into a small jog. So we didn't realize that that had happened that night until week later the audio was gone through and we there is you know, and I try to be extremely logical, and we kind of, you know, you think about okay, let's break it down. So so something some things. There's two of these things on two feet walked up to the purbot. They knew where it was.

29:13 They walked right up to it and continued to walk on. So I'm like, okay, so now we have hikers on a Thursday night, second week in October, walking eleven thirty at night on the beach. So we got hikers on the beach. Well, okay, that's that's possible, but not probable. So okay, and if it was hikers, you know, if you and I were going down the beach at night eleven thirty at a remote lake, we'd be talking like, okay, hey, this is a cool lake. Oh, it looks like some people are camping there. Oh what's this plastic thing sitting on a tripod? Oh let's check that out. Oh yeah, that's pretty cool. We must be researching something. Okay, let's keep going right, there'd be chigger chatter talking of some sort, and there was none. What's even more baffling is I had a glad trash bag full fruit scraps I left out because there's no wildlife there and I'm not too worried about it.

30:06 Big for society, who will be right back after these messages. So whatever it was didn't care about the trash bag, which was thirty feet from the parabolic So I deduced in my mind that it probably wasn't on a hiker at eleven thirty night. A bear okay, well, maybe it's a bear. Okay, maybe maybe it's on his two feet. Okay, Well, bearers are kind of clumsy on the two feet when they're standing out, but then they have erratic breathing, they're snorting or huffing, and they would have also had interest in the trash. So probably not a bear. So two feet walking through the sand, didn't care about trash, wasn't talking simply walked up to the parabolic, checked it out, and kept walking. I don't know, but it drew a lot of suspect for me, like, Okay, we're in the right spot. These things are here. Obviously didn't want to be disruptle, didn't want to wake us up whatever these were.

31:21 It was clearly knew we were asleep because everyone's snoring, you can hear it on the audio. And tinded by that like, Okay, these humans or people are asleep, Let's walk up and see what they set up on the beach because we're curious about it. That's my interpretation of that visit. And then weekend number three, so we backed up and had a great time, had a lot of great things happen. Weekend number three. I went back up with my with my cell cam, which is a no no. I'm not a big camera guy, but I've had experiences with things playing my camera. So I put the camera off a beaten path and just set it up just to see what would happened. And I had two values with me and more than non believer. But he wanted to go and explore this here beautiful and help us up the camera, and he did. He woke up. We're only there one night, and of course nothing happened, but he woke up and we're sitting by the fire and he goes, I know this sounds absolutely insane, but he goes, I swear. Probably a little after five, I could hear two kids chatting behind my tent. I couldn't make out a single word, but something. Two of them younger were talking and I go, really, tell me more, I mean, like but kind of and then he just stopped and he goes, never mind, stupid. So and that's that's so far.

32:44 It's been my last trip up there, and I'll probably go up and get my camera eventually. I do believe that cameras detour them more than anything. But it's fun to see if I, you know, get a little bit of something playing with my camera and something has been which is kind of fun and I'm curious to check that out. But that's that's been my most recent activity with most bang for the buck, like something walking up into your camp while you're asleep is for me, that's my best local stuff yet. I'm pretty excited about it. And it's so cool to hear that, you know, you yourself have also experienced stuff and it sounds like you've gotten multiple reports as well from that same area. Are those those other reports or those visuals are people experiencing like Class B type things or.

33:35 Yeah, unfortunately they've all been Class b's most of the reports. It's something coming into our camp, Randy. Something walked around the tents about two in the morning and walked away. Something poured gravel on the top of my tent. I thought it was raining, but something was slowly dropping or letting loose, like a small handful of gravel on the top of my dumb tent. My daughter had that happen as well that night we're up there as a family. She thought it was raining and she goes, no, pebbles were literally rolling down the top of my tent at one three in the morning. And so I had another report just like that. I had a report. It was also this year August, the same thing, gravel in the tent.

34:18 This is a group of forty people. They are They are ahead of Central Oregon Symphony. I believe it was a orchestra. Anyway, it's a trip to do once a year in the backside of cult to Slate. They load up boats, they'll go camp over there. And they play instruments, cellos and violins and just have a little jam session once a year. And there was two gentlemen that flew in from New Orleans for this event, and not only did something slowly seem like drop small gravel or dirt on the top of the tent and the wee hours in the morning, but also they heard something walking around the tent and so along with two other campers in that group. So what seemed to be a common nominator at this location as music, it's the non threatening is to hanging out. And that's why I tell people who won't have an experience, if you're gonna have an experience, just go and act normal. Don't put on the face paint, don't pull out clear don't run around the woods with your cameo gear on. Just sit next to fire and play a little bit of music. Just be normal, play games, chit chat, don't get crazy. And that's the most non threatening way to have an experience. In my opinion, I think that produces curiosity and more importantly, maybe they feel like they can go these things, can go about doing their day to day business and not be chased or or stocked, or killed or what have you. But this particular area, whatever these things are, there's been never a

35:51 threatening experience. It's more like, oh God, there's something really big in the woods. It's been a curious experience at the best. I almost think whatever's at this lake, based on all the reports I'm getting, is barely even curious about humans. It's more like, gosh darn' it kind annoying. I'm gonna walk through the scam because I get over to that creek and I'll do a couple of circles and move on. I'm not gonna do any whoops. I'm not gonna do any scary howls, no scary streams, no crazy tree knocks. The knocks i've heard up there, I think have been just for communication to others. They've been slight. They're not overpowering type of woodknock, not an intimidating woodknock, is what I should say. So this particular lake, I think whatever they are just kind of want to be left alone, do business as usual, and if as a humans there, they might go kind of check them out, but they just want to be left alone.

36:45 So that's extremely interesting. You said there's a theme where they're not really aggressive encounters because I'm remembering from a lot of the encounters I took over from the Sasquatch summerfest, like that area near Oakridge. There is there's a theme of I wouldn't say like Oklahoma aggressive, but I would say maybe semi aggressive, like hunters getting their gun barrels bent, people being chased out of the Spirit Lake area by Sasquatch that look like they have dreadlocks, just like really weird semi aggressive, not like overly like we're gonna take you down stuff. But actually, I take that back. There's there is one, but that's not exactly public anyway, gotcha.

37:39 I just remember that myself. But for the most part, it's semi aggressive. So over in your area, do you get for the most part, like non threatening ones or are there sometimes ones where it's like, oh, you know, things escalated maybe a little bit there. No, I'm not. I'm going through my quick roll decks in my brain. I have not ever taken an aggressive report incorrect. In twenty eleven, hunters near Cultis Lake. I think they were held and yelled at by something in the woods during the hunting season and they packed up and left. That's probably the worst one. I've ever received, so I am you know. Of course, again, this is a wild animal that hasn't been classified yet, so I can't tell you if it's if it's you know, threatening or not. But the experiences I've had and the stories and reports I have collected, I've got a lot of class air reports, and these things want to be left alone.

38:44 They're like it was accidentally running in front of a car. I got a lot of those. I got one that was surprised by a gentleman camping out of his kayak, and he had a late start one night, and he did this camp out every other weekend, Friday and Saturday, and so Thursday night he got up there a little bit too late, and he was going up the creek in his kayak twilight, and he stumbled upon an eight foot massive, massive what he said was a silverback here at the Wikiap Reservoir. And the only reason, the only reason this thing saw him was because he was so shocked that he kicked his paddle in the water to turn the kayak to get a better view of this thing, which was eighty feet away. And this thing was up on a knoll looking down at the creek, and he described it like this thing was watching children play in water.

39:34 It was very intent and didn't realize that the kayak was there until the paddle hit the water. And then this thing turned hard left and stared down at him in his kayak, and I truly believe that they both startled each other. I think this thing was looking for fish. I think the cocaine was starting to spawn, which was also late summer last year, and so he turned his two things. He's fifty eight years old, and he's a retired lot non believing longer. He had a forty five with him. No, it's a nine miler, I think, and his iPhone. It goes Randy. I when I saw this thing, and when it made eye contact with me, I froze with the paddle in the air, and then I urnated myself in my kayak and the kayak just floated back to the stream until I hit a bank and it popped me out of my trance or my paralysis, if you will. And then he goes, I just booked it out of there, and then something splashed next to me, and he goes, I really can't tell you if it was a fish or rock, and I need high tailed high tails at home. He was even to the point where like, I don't know the thing followed me home or not, but it was again, it was a it was a moment where I think they were both startled.

40:46 The road crossing reports I get here. These things don't look left or right, which is absolutely amazing to me. They just go and sometimes in front of one or multiple cars, even in front of a highway Oregon State trooper and his wife. And that's a great report because that's the same silber. This man is trying to take an action picture within seconds, and he has a beautiful description of one crossing between Crescent and some mold the highway to keep turn off. But yeah, yeah, even the ones up by Planet East Lake, they are a non issue. I think they just want to be left alone and live.

41:27 And I really don't have I just haven't. I just haven't gotten any report for people like the same chase me, the same streamed at me, the same hold at me. I do believe I absolutely back what you're saying too, because I've heard some really scary reports down south. So anything south of one point thirty eight year Crater Lake I call bad foot. And that's maybe not fair, but that area. I won't go by myself. I'm going to with a lot by myself. That area, I'll take a partner with me or a buddy, because they there is a different attitude down there, and I'm not sure why. You know, maybe you know some group like people humans. Some groups are more angry. I don't know. Some I don't know. Some families are more angry. Pass maybe a hunter, so many people, what have you. But that seems to be a more intimidating area for these things, for sure.

42:13 So that's that's really interesting. I've gotten one report from down by Crater Lake and it was the lady I was supposed to talk to but she it didn't work out, and she was driving towards well, she was driving towards Crater Lake and she saw something cross the road. And she wasn't a bigfoot person, but she's like, it looked like a moss man, like a big tall man just covered with moss, which is really really weird. But you're saying that. So one thirty eight is the highway that goes looks like east to west north of Crater Lake, ish, and you're seeing south of that highway like there's some really rough stuff that happens. Yeah, I believe. I believe they seem to be a little more agitated down in that direction. So one eight looking south and then parallel like Highway two thirty right if you look on your map there and two thirty head south. I just got another report from Highway two thirty today. She was out last weekend and heard some howls and I said, be careful, go that's only spot.

43:15 I'll tell you to be careful. And it is. I don't know if it's the Crater Lake thing, you know, I don't know. It's an area that I definitely caution for sure. So well, there must have been some some catalyst event that made it so that you will not go down in that area by yourself. Yeah, you could probably say that, Okay. I've heard some reports that have made me and plus I've talked to other people, and that's where the noise. I think the name was calling badfoot, and I hate to say it was a bad bigfoot, but it's just you know, if they're they're pissed off or something, they're just they just they're just a little bit more agitated down there. There was no real event. For myself, I've never been put in that situation. I've never felt scared or threatened. But the reports that I've taken and heard from that area, I think, I think it's just an area to be.

44:12 Cautious, just just curious. Anything in particular that jumps out in your memory of reports that you've taken from that area that would contribute to that. I have taken reports, nothing scary or intimidating. I have road crossing, two road crossing reports on one thirty eight vocalizations. I've gotten three that one most recent from this weekend off of off of two thirty in look up Rabbit Ears. It's a rock formation off of Highway too thirty heard and her husband for about thirty minutes heard something communicating with something. And they're non believers, but they they couldn't wait to tell me about it. And then go north in that Lomolo area next to Lomola Lake, you're heading north just north of Diamond Lake. If you look to the look to the west of Lamola Lake, there's a dread and Terror ridge and uh and people have told me that I've had two hunters that said something happened to them up there and they won't go back there.

45:32 Big for society who will be right back after these messages. And of course it sounds really cool, dread and tear ridge, right, So yeah, I've had, you know, report but nothing that really strikes my attention to you know, being scary. Just more from people I've talked to, other stories I've heard, as far as reports that I've taken.

46:14 Now, oh, so I'll rephrase the question a little bit differently then I then I'll move on. But so that area where there's like the bad foot stuff happening on, have you heard accounts that would specifically like you could point to that account and be like, oh, that's probably a big part of why it's called badfoot down. There in that area. Oh no, I have not. Okay, great question, I have not. No, all right, just just a weird feeling down there. We're not going to go out by ourselves and things could get pretty interesting, all right, fair enough? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely, yeah, just from the just from the stories I've heard and then talking to other researchers, it's an interesting area.

46:56 So who knows, well, listeners, if you if you know of some crazy stuff that has gone down in that area south of one thirty eight and east of two thirty right that whole area. Yeah, feel free to yeah west of two thirty. Sorry, yeah, yeah, gotcha? All right? Cool that. Actually, you know, I want to ask, have you come to a decision or what's your current leaning as to what you think? You know? These these are out there? How do you how do you categorize bigfoot? Yeah? Well that's a good one, right, Yeah. I used to be confident it was a landlocked eight. I'm no longer confident that. The more I do this, the more i'm out in the woods, I think. I think, yes, possibly that, but also there's something more to it. I think, you know, I'm not much of an orbit guy, but I had an experience that changed my thought process on an investigation. So these things, I think, for the most part, act like primates, but they have the abilities that I cannot explain. So that would take it into I don't know, if it's quantum physics. I don't know. You know, this is the cloaking thing, a real thing. Possibly, I don't know, but I'm not sold on just flesh and blood landlocked primate.

48:29 I think that's a piece of it. But there's another side of these things that is unexplained. There's abilities that they're able to perform that just haven't been explained yet. And I do believe that they're out there, and when they don't want to be seeing, they have a way of disappearing. It's the most craziest thing I've ever seen. I've had. I've seen prints to just stop, you know, like, what the heck? Why? So you see enough of that stuff? Right? I see that the more you're out there, the more start to experience things that are unexplained. And that's the piece that's still very much a mystery for me, Like, you know, how can I not see this with a flear How can I not see this thing with night vision?

49:14 But I can hear it? Right? So that's that's the challenging part for me. But I love it. I think these things. I feel very very very very blessed that they are not far from where I live and I can go and and learn about them and respect them and try not to be an inconvenience. Just more of a benign observer is my goal. I love that are our ways of looking at it are very similar. And I mean, yeah, if I lived out there, dude, I would get nothing done. It would be rough. I would be out there all the time, so it's probably why I don't live out there. Yeah, you're as You're right, it becomes a challenge, you know, we're empty nesters and and I yeah, I put off a lot of stuff I need to do all my property in my house because I'm just out in the woods tracking and learning. But you're right, it's it's it can be highly addictive and got to be careful to have a little bit of balance too.

50:07 We experienced a weird phenomenon out in the woods in let's say Oakridge area, and I'm curious if you've ever experienced it out in your area where sounds were picked up on audio. No one heard it live except for one person in the group. Have you ever experienced anything like that? Wow? I have not. Okay, interesting, that's a good one. That's a real good one. Yeah. Yeah, it was just it's very very strange. It was like a weird, a weird whooping type sound. Yeah, and only one person heard it in the group. Actually happened.

50:47 Is very strange. Have you ever experienced infrasound out there that you're aware of. I am not correct if I'm If it did, I wasn't aware of it, then no, not not nothing that that struck me. Now, okay, interesting, but I. Do believe that's the thing, and I don't know. I will tell you I do believe it's the thing because most of my class A reports there's a sense of paralysis with it. I don't know if it's body, the human body going in to shock and trying to classify what they saw, or if this thing really has the ability to form a moment of proalysis or the sound. So, yes, I believe that's the thing. I'm starting to believe that.

51:30 I'm still very much I always call myself a learner, and so I am open to learning more about that. And I'm starting to see definitely a correlation to most of my class A reports of having that experience. So that's really interesting. I want to share another thing that happened out in this area by Oakridge the last I think I've mentioned this maybe briefly and passive, but we were sitting at the edge of a meadow and I was sitting in a chair looking into the tree line, and for a good five minutes, I was not able to move at all, and it was just like just just could not move, and then all of a sudden, it was like, you know, then I can move again. I was like, well, what in the world just happened there?

52:11 There was very strange. So is that similar to other reports you've gotten, Like you said, there are some paralysis maybe involved. Yeah, you know, I'm going to say yours is pretty that's pretty significant. I would say most of my reports are class A reports. Are people who are frozen and trying to figure out what's happening, what's looking at me? What is that thing? And feel like they don't have the ability to move And I don't know if that's the human body going into a little bit of a shock or when this thing's making that eye contact it's infra sound, a combination of both, but not to your extreme.

52:52 That's pretty powerful. It's just it was a really weird thing. Yeah, did you feel sick afterwards? Did you feel nauchious? No? But you know, keep in mind that I was. I probably had a fever by that time, because the next day I had to go out to Springfield to urgent care for my legs, right, which the doctor had no idea how that happened. Ah, And they were like, they were like, it's probably cellulitis, Which is funny because the print out they gave me. There's like one of the causes his like can be exposure to like like some kind of like radiation type deal. But I think it's probably a fly bite or a few fly bites that got like maybe messed up with some stuff in the meadow.

53:41 Who knows. Did your skin and I don't want to know, did your skin bubble up at all? Did it feel like it was a bad burn? No, but it was it was swallowing. Okay, crazy, yah. Yeah, gotcha? Okay, interesting, that's crazy. Yeah, you mentioned that a few times Tobe and Darryl's name have come up. Yes, have you gone over to the Owl Moon Lab in the Wilderness area and done anythings over there? Yeah? Yeah, I did. I went over. I'm known Darryl when he first moved to Oregon and met him in his group and became friends. And then he moved from Glyde and bought that house there, and he was telling me he's getting moved in, I'll settled in, And then he texted me one day he goes there's something there's monkeys up in the ridge. I'm like what, and he goes, yeah, there's monkeys. I swears there's like there's crazy monkeys here, and so our relationship furthered. And then he he said, Hey, I met this guy Toby. I call him Toby Johnson.

54:41 I go, I for to Toby and he's coming out to my place, Like no way, he goes, Yeah, he's going to come investigate what's going on in the Ridgeways. Long story short, I went over there a couple times with my group. I took my family over there, my wife, two kids, and significant others, and Darryl and Mark Parker took us on, took us down to their little area there, and Mark is such a cool guy, and basically just learned what they were experiencing. And then I took some teammates from my group and did a couple of overnighters there and nothing significant happened that I was aware of. But it's a really, really interesting location. There's a lot of things happening there. It's it's almost overwhelming. And yeah, it's a cool place.

55:23 Man, I'd be interested. I always say, is the stuff still happening today? Now there's a new owner to the property, I wonder if the stuff is starting. Yeah. So I talked to Darryl and he said, yes, not as much the house itself is weird. It's crazy. So there's stuff with the house where the new owners don't go upstairs at all. But he Daryl, I was supposed to go on Toby's expedition Strange Days and something came up and I missed that one too, and Daryl went on it. And from there, Daryl went that to al noon Lad before going back to Oklahoma, and he said, yeah, he sent sent out some pitchers to me both the Prince.

56:06 So I think they're still there. I still think they're habitating that area and doing business as usual in there. Mmmm. Oh yeah, I mean the stuff that that I hear. I mean that whole area College Grove and like, I don't know if you've ever heard of Sharp's Creek. I think it's Sharp's No, that's a really crazy area. Yeah. I don't know if you ever get over there, put that in the back of your head. Sharp's Creek and that's in College Grove. No, it's it's it's actually over by Colp Creek. You go over to College Grove, but then you you drive like way past Durina Lake, and that was like it's out there, so.

56:50 Gotcha, okay, okay, yeah, but no, I have not been there, but I'll put it. Yeah, I'll put it on my list. I got a long list. No, that's the thing I mean, I I can't imagine living out there like your list would just keep growing and growing growing. It does. Have you ever heard of a place called Baboon Creek out there? Diamond Creek? I have, Sorry, Baboon Creek I have? Yes. Have you heard of any things that have happened around there? No, I have not, but it's I think that's one of Toby's areas. Can you explore that? Yeap? Oh? Okay, okay, Because I remember Toby talking about bad Boom Creek. I think that was one of his research spots. I love to go check it out. I'm afraid I reasonablieve it burned last year. Okay, yeah yeah, and it's not far from my area as well, but yeah, i'd love to check that out.

57:41 Yeah, man, it's just I Yeah, early July, I'll you out there again. Well, I love to words. We'll drag you over here for a few days and and see, I see if you can knock your socks off. Oh dude, m yeah, Well we'll talk in a minute. Man. It has been just a pleasure talking to you, Randy. I need to really get more familiar with what your group is up to there and start following all your stuff. But what is the best way that people can can keep up to date with what the Ben Bigfoot Research Group is up to.

58:23 We're just on Facebook, so that's the best way. Go on Facebook, type in Bend Bigfoot Research Group a couple of questions, we'll pull you into group. We don't put up with any advertisements. It is evidence and local events. If you have something constructive or scientific to share, we love that. So it's a learning platform with a combination of a safe place to tell a story and we always as much as I can, post often and sharing recent events. So we'd love to have people on there. That's fantastic. Well, well, Randy, thank you so much for coming on the show. Is been just a real fun time chatting with you tonight.

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