Sasquatch Strangeness of Oakridge, Oregon!

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0:43 Welcome to big for Society. If you have Bigfoot activity to report from the same areas discussed in this episode, please reach out to me directly after this episode, and if you'd like to be on the podcast to discuss a personal Bigfoot encounter, please reach out to me directly at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. Do you wish there was more big for Society to listen to every week? Well there is now. If you become a supporting member over at Patreon, you get a special members only episode every single week on Wednesdays, and sometimes even more episodes head on over to Patreon dot com Forward slash the Big for Society and now let's get on with the show. All right, Big for Society. I've got the privilege of talking to Joe today. Joe's an individual that reached out to me through email. He's got some very interesting things that have happened to him over the years out there in Oregon. Excited to talk to him. Tonight's Joe. How's it going, man, It's going good.

1:39 Thanks for having. Me, absolutely, man. I'm excited to get right into it to talk about a area of Orgon that I love. We were talking in the pre show about Oakridge, and I think that potentially may come up as one of the locations that we're talking about. But we're going to be bouncing around and I'm going to go ahead and pass things right over to you, Joe, And thanks again for spending some time with me. Yeah, thank you. So. I I guess for a little background, I've lived in an Oregon my whole life, and I kind of considered myself a casual adventurer. I don't go do anything too crazy, but I get around all, you know, different places in Oregon and you know, out to the desert, out to the mountains, out to the coast, all that kind of stuff. And I think when I was a kid, I was always fascinated by unexplained stuff, you know, spooky places and unexplained phenomenon, and you know, Bigfoot was up there, and I was kind of just kind of treat it as more of a novelty. But sometime in my early teenage years, I was with my friend let's call him D and we were watching the show and it was a show about Bigfoot, and it was some like Potato Vision footage from the nineties, the Memorial Day footage from I think Washington, and I remember we looked at each other they were like, you know, in our teenage voice

3:13 to be like, yeah, we're gonna go. We're gonna go find that. It's always just kind of been that thing in the back of our minds that you know, we're gonna go out in the woods and find them, and you know, but it kind of changed eventually when a couple of years later, I went on a camping trip in February with a relative and his roommate and I think I was about fourteen at the time, and it was clear out and we got to the spot that's near Oak Ridge and it's yeah, I want to say, it's a little ways north and we called this spot in the prairie and it was this kind of up a hill and just kind of this meadow off a logging road that we just kind of decided to camp at because you know, you know, it was cool out in the woods and stuff. And we got there a little bit before dusk and we got everything set up and we were being we were being hooligans, and you know, we had a little adult beverages. Well started to a least, and then it started getting dark and a little bit

4:47 a little bit past dark, it was very very quiet. And I mean it's so it's usually pretty quiet in the winter over there, it seems like. But it was very quiet, no birds or anything, and we were just hanging out by the campfire, and we heard this sound and it was I'm not quite sure how to describe it. It sounded like a coyote, like a single coyote howl, but the sound didn't have any any of the yips that you would hear with normal coyote calls. And it was across it was across the meadow and it kept as time progressed probably about I want to say about it a little less than an hour. It kept getting closer louder. What the strange thing about it is is that it it sounded the same every time, like it was like a recording, like somebody had recorded a coyote howl and then just playing it back exactly the same every time. And so we got it got a little got a little freaky because that that didn't sound right, because I've heard coyotes and all sorts of other craters out there, and it's it just sounded odd. And after just short of an hour, it just as it got

6:18 closer and louder, it just stopped completely. And at this point we're all kind of looking at other like, well, that's kind of strange. Well, my accomplice is we're a little bit older than I was, so they were, you know, being a little bit more macho and having more bad I was. You know, I was a kid when I was a teenager, and I was I was scared. But we ended up going on a walk and following a old logging road that kind of circled to the top of this meadow, and nothing, nothing really happened. It was just quiet didn't see anything, didn't hear anything, and we're kind of just, I don't know, for lack of a better term, just turning as who was out there and didn't see nothing. So my relative's roommate was like, well, you know, if something does come by, And as you're saying that, in one sweet motion, he pulls out a handgun and shoots it off in the air. Said yeah, okay, you know, I get the point. But we go back to the campfire and we're just you know, hanging out a little while later in the evening, I want to say this is probably closer to eight or nine, there was this this other noise that we started hearing, and it was like this beeping noise, like almost kind of like the some kind of like electronic beating noise you'd

7:50 hear in like a sci fi movie or some kind of like detector or something, you know, very stereotypical. But it would change pitch and it would change the cadence, and like I was thinking to myself, like what is that? Like, what is what is this electronic noise I'm hearing? And I don't think either either one of the guys are messing with me, and that's not something they would do, at least not that, not like that. And over I want to say about a half hour roughly, it had made basically a half circle around us in terms of where we were hearing it. And then it just stops, and I'm starting to get like concerned. I'm like, is that, you know, is that some like forest ranger coming out here to bust us for you know, underage drinking or something?

8:50 Or is it bigfoot? Is it aliens? Is it? You know a lot of things are going through my mind, and I kind of I didn't really sleep that night. I attempted to, and we were cowboy camping. We were on cots and sleeping bags, and it was cold and very dry, and I could hear anything that would move, And the only other thing I heard that night wasn't al hooting, probably three in the morning, after the moon came up. Yeah, the rest of that day ended up in a nasty little teenager hangover, which was unpleasant. But that's besides the point that that was really the first time I ever had any kind of unexplained sound in the woods that like I couldn't chalk up to the usual suspects, you know, deer bear or whatever, and it's stuck with me, and I stewed on it for years and years, and I a few years later, I tried to go back to find the place, and I couldn't locate it because at the time, you know, Google Earth and stuff like that wasn't really a thing, you know, And this was like two thousand and four, I want

10:20 to say, so I kind of just, you know, I was like, oh, that's a weird experience, and it kind of became one of my you know, campfire stories in the future, and I just kind of followed that a way. But about five years later, me and some friends went out to do you know where the Coast Range. Is further west right, Yeah, So out. In the Coast Range there's some like shooting spots kind of like southwest of Eugene that a lot of people go to. And we again in February, coincidentally enough, on a full moon, Me and my friend d I mentioned earlier, and a couple of other friends decided to go up to one of these shooting spots because we were, you know, teenagers with nothing to do, and you know, we go in the woods at two in the morning, and so we go to this one spot and this spot is like a it's like a big gully and if you're you're facing it, you're kind of looking into it. And on the left an old logging road went up to landing, and to the right there was another road that was very overgrown and that kind of skirted the middle of the gully and went off into the hills a little bit.

11:45 So me and Dee grabbed our rifles and three of our other friends came with and we hopped over the berm the block of the road and walked up to this landing and we were just eating some food and hanging out and they're there for a little bit. And this this landing you can look pretty much. It's right in the middle, like the side of the goalie, and you can kind of survey the whole goalie from there. And at some point I don't remember who saw it first, but there was this big black shadow on the far side of the goalie. And now, mind you, the moon the moon was out and full, completely full this time, so it was actually quite bright out. We didn't have any flashlights or anything, but we saw this big black thing moving up the hill and it wasn't really it didn't really have much of a shape. It was I'm not quite sure how to put it into words. It was.

12:48 It was very, very dark. But it's huge because they they the logging companies, had logged out and replanted trees in that goalie. And these trees were, you know, only a couple of years old, so they were only maybe about seven feet tall, roughly seven eight feet tall. They were taller than me and I'm I'm six foot seven. So we're watching this black mass go up the far side of the gullie and he had his rifles a scope on it, and he pulls up his rifle and he's looking through the scope and he's I can see I can see the rifle trailing it as it's going up the hill and he and I asked him. I was like, dude, what do you see. He's like, I'm not sure. It's just black. It's like a shadow. And I'm like, well, here, let me let me take a look.

13:44 And sure enough, I look through the scope. It's a nine power scope and it's just it's just a void, and it's just going up the far side of the gully. And our other friends were getting a little nervous, sufficed to say, so, I said, you know we should probably leave. This doesn't feel right. I'm not sure what that is. And we got all our stuff packed up, and right before we were about to leave, I called out to him. I was like, hey, if you're a person, say something. I didn't hear anything. Well, I took my rifle up and I fired two shots in the air because I was quite nervous. I thought I was a person or something, but yeah, I was not, not sitting with me. So we all left and they were all everybody's quiet on the ride home, and it seemed like nobody really at the time. It seemed like really really knew what to make of the situation. Well, a while later, he discovers he lost his cell phone. So, I want to say about a month later, him and I went up there to look at that goalie during the daylight, and I had a GPS radio, so I started marking. I marked

15:16 where the landing was, and then he stayed up at the landing and I went down on the goalie went on the far side approximately where we saw the shadow, and I wanted to get a distance on it, and it was roughly, i want to say, two hundred yards away from where we were, and I was. That's when I noticed the trees were taller than I was there, you know, a foot are better over me. I was looking up at him like, oh, that's that's strange, big for society. Who will be right back after these messages?

16:06 And incidentally, he found his cell phone right about where he was observing me from and it still worked, believe it or not. Yeah, so we never really got any answers on that. Sometime later, Dee's mom actually used to clean house for Lee Trippett and she, I guess had mentioned to him about us seeing those shadows and whatever that was up there, and he actually offered to go out there with us, and he wanted to take a look at it. And at that time, I'm not sure how old Lee was, but you know, he was an older guy and he was We took him back up to that goalie and we bush whacked on the our side where we saw the shadows to get there, start of crossing down and back up. We took the road and we went there, showed him in the place, took him kind of in some of the back roads, and he he didn't really say he didn't really postulate too much on you know, what's what he saw and or what we saw and what might be out there. But he's like, you know, this is kind of some in my opinion at least, this is some prime Bigfoot territory.

17:30 And so we just kind of the United just kind of shrugged and said okay, and we went back to went back and left. So it's it's it's strange because I've never really felt like, in terms of big Foot, I've never really been to woo woo about it, you know. I've always kind of chalked it up to, like I want to say, not necessarily an ape, but some form of creature with the approximate intelligence of a human and the approximate intelligence of like a gorilla, which I believe is like roughly five times as strong as humans are.

18:18 And Lee was kind of on the drive home, he was kind of getting a little woo woo about it. In my opinion. I mean, I don't judge. People can believe what they want about whatever critters are out there. I'm you know, I'm not here to cast judgment on that, but it really got it kind of got me thinking, and so over the years I was just eventually just kind of took a deep dive into you know, researching what other people had, you know, come across and turns of bigfoot stuff. And have you ever heard of the YouTube guy. He's Bob Gimlin.

19:00 With a y yes, yep. I I'm familiar with Bob. I've never talked to him, but yeah. Yeah, so I I've been kind of watching him over the years and all sorts of other places because I got a little I got a little disenfranchised with the whole bigfoot thing after finding Bigfoot was kind of at its peak popularity. I don't know, it just it just seemed kind of silly to me. So I would anytime people think, you know, anytime i'd I'd mentioned one of those stories or something people but oh yeah, it's like I'm finding Bigfoot or something, and I just would roll my eyes. But at some point though, I just kind of said, whatever, you know, my what I experienced were those was that shadow Bigfoot? I don't know. Maybe was that like fake coyote howling that I heard out in the prairie. Was that Bigfoot? Maybe? I've heard a lot of people talk about animal mimicry, and you know, things going silent in the woods when bigfoots around, and things like that. But what ended up happening later which really kind of like really kind of set the foundation for how what I believe in was once again with my

20:31 friend d we had been going up on weekends to explore some of the old mindes over by Cottage Grove and there's this one mind that was kind of down this sneaking road on the side of a ridge, and we were when was this, I want to say this is probably in like two thousand sixteen, So we'd been hiking down this road for probably about twenty minutes, and we came to this intersection where there was a switch back to the left, but the road, the gravel road, kind of kept going and then stopped shortly and there's an overlook and I heard this noise and I'm not quite sure how to describe it that it makes sense, but it it was like it makes between like a grouse and like the toad, but like if you pitched it down, so it's like right on the edge of you're hearing kind of like a really basy car like driving off of the distance, you know, and it kept making this like whooping sound for lack of about a word, kind of the steady, steady pace up until we got

22:03 to it, and then it stopped. And then I look back to d and I'm like, dude, what is that? He's like, I don't know, dude. So we were kind of just we kind of just stood there waiting for it to kind of resume, and it did, and I started walking a little bit. Then it stopped, and then every footstep I took it would make the sound. And I noticed that and if I walked each foots that made the sound. If I stopped walking, it would stop, pause, and then resume its original cadence to its whooping. Does that make sense?

22:50 Yes? It does? Okay, Yeah, I'm a little alone. I'm just I'm not quite sure how to describe how it worked. But that's the best I can do. But so we tested it. So we using hand signs. I I kind of signaled a ded for him to walk over to a point and then stop, and he walked, and then it whooped to each each one of his footsteps, and when he stopped walking, it stopped and resumed its original original cadence. And we're both kind of looking at you like, yo, what is that? And and the strange thing is is that I didn't feel afraid at the time. I was more perplexed and curious another one. A lot of people, a lot of my a lot of people talk about their experiences. They either get over you know, super scared, overwhelming fear, or then you feel at peace or whatever.

23:52 I just very curious about it. And so we we we did this thing where we did the walking test multiple times, and then after probably about I don't know, ten twenty minutes of doing that, we kind of just looked at each other and kind of whispered, and he's like, yeah, that's something intelligent. That's not a grouse. Grouse don't do that. It's not a bullfrog. It's it's something clearly interacting with us. And I was like it and I asked you. I was like, that sounds like and it sounds like a bullfrog and a grouse or something. He's like, it sounds like trees clacking together. To me, Like, really, that doesn't that's not at all what I'm hearing. But he also just I'm pretty sure he described it as also being kind of on the edge of his hearing too, So I don't know. We ended up saying, Okay, well, we'll come back to it. We wanted to go down the road or and we walked down the road a little ways and the only other animal we heard was a very angry bird up in a tree. But other than that, it was dad silent. And as we were walking away, we kept hearing the the whooping sound, and when we came back, it wasn't there. And so that was almost

25:24 kind of more suspicious than when we heard it the first time, that it wasn't there at all. The rest of the day, it was just you know, we didn't see or hear anything, or it was just quiet up there. And we got in the car and left, and yeah, that was that was probably one of the more profound experiences that I had. We we ended up talking to Lee again about it, and we actually went to his house to talk about it, because at that time he wasn't in very good health, and we kind of just relayed the same story. And it was curious. He he turned around to me and he looked at me dead in the eye and said, what were you doing up by the minds? I don't know, exploring And he he kind of had his own theory that it was like a like a juvenile bigfoot or something that was being playful with us. He also mentioned that they they act strangely because they according to him, he said that they can smell metal or something, I think some other thing.

26:46 That's what he said. He said he can they can smell metal, and they acted differently, especially when like you're carrying like a weapon, and when I go hiking, you know, with friends, were usually armed. You know, not that we're expecting any kind of like encounter to you know, getting some kind of conflict with you know, a bigfoot or anything like that. None of that. Mostly just like you know, there's not very nice people out in some of those woods, and you know, it's precautionary. And we also explained that to him, and he he seemed kind of stumped about it.

27:29 From what I understand, he was pretty deep into bigfoot for a long time. He was probably I think it was probably even like the seventies, I think sixties or seventies. He started getting into it back in the early days. He pretty much just said that it was he thought of the juvenile and I don't know that kind of that whole thing left me with more questions than answers. You know, I've never really I haven't had any exciting, you know, visuals or any kind of psychic conversations or anything like that. I often joke with people that I'm a psychic nol. I've been to all these you know, allegedly haunted place. He's never seen a ghost, you know, nothing like that. But I don't know. It's but that last one with the interaction, really, that's that's what stuck with me.

28:25 That interaction would would stick with me probably for the rest of my life. I haven't experienced anything that weird, kind of weird, but not not that weird. I remember we were talking about Lee Trippett. I think we were talking about him a while back too, and I started to look for him because I think you had said he was like the bigfoot guy in Eugene, Oregon area, right, yeah, yeah, But you can't find a lot on them. But I did find there's like some research library that had an interview that he did way back in sixty three with Don Hunter, who was the guy who used to hang out with Renee to Hindon. So he's definitely been into the subject for a long time. I can't find an obituary.

29:13 I'm guessing probably unfortunately Lee is no longer with us, or he'd have to be extremely old, but I don't know. It sounds like a very interesting character though. He was. He's seemed very genuine. He he'd he asked us we listen to Coast to Coast am and at that time it wasn't something those really on my radar that that did kind of come up a little bit later on. But he just he was a very kind person. He was. He gave us a book. Was it called I want to say it was something to the effect of Sasquatch in the UFO connection or something like that.

29:55 Does that sound familiar to you? Was it the Sasquatch people in their inner dimensional Connection? No? I know for a fact I had UFO in it. Okay, cool, Yeah, I. Don't know where that book ended up. That's I think he had it. And he's moved around a couple of times. Yeah. No, Lee was a great guy, and he wasn't at that time after we told him about the interaction over by the minds. Yeah, he was. He wasn't in good health then, so yeah, I I I kind of think he's probably no longer with us, And you're right, I can't find anything about him. And it's unfortunate because he had some toy that he had. They got really popular back in the sixties that he had invented, and he had a business that was selling those toys for a while, and then eventually it was like one of those Newton's Cradle type things.

30:51 Okay, yeah, yeah, that's cool. I'm a little I'm a little out of touch with what it is. It's been a while since I into it. But yeah, he was making dolls for quite a while, and then all these other companies just kind of out out competed them because they would undercut the price, and he just kind of gave up. And that's when I guess he got into Bigfoot. From what I understand, big for society. Who will be right back after these messages.

31:35 But yeah, he gives that book and it was kind of strange because I, like I said, we left his house I think, with more questions than answers. And ever since then, I, you know, nothing's really happened to me since then. I mean, I go out all sorts of places. I've been to caves in the middle of the desert with pictographs and you know, minds and stuff like that. It's it's just been mainly those those encounters I've had a couple minor encounters. I saw a tree shaking violently for a couple of seconds one time, but at that time I saw that didn't immediately spring oh, look it's a big foot, you know. But yeah, I've been on the lookout though I've seen some questionable things, but I kind of lean more towards it's probably not bigfoot, because I think the best way to describe my beliefs is that there's there's something out there, and whether it's a hyper you know, a hyper intelligent ape type critter, or some kind of forest spirit or some kind of alien, you know. I I'm not going to say I know one way or another. I think that's foolish because I just don't know. But just just the amount of the

33:11 amount of things that people talk about that they see and interact with, and like what we were talking about earlier, about all the people you talked about in Oak Ridge, it's crazy. I didn't I didn't realize so many people had that going on up there. I was kind of earlier, you know, earlier in my life. I just kind of talked they put up to you know, campfire stories, and but you know, it's time progressed and you know, I heard all the helpless, all those videos you put out of people's experiences around here, and it's kind of changed my perspective among things. Joe, it is it is wild in that area, and I'm not I'm not sure why it's so wild in that area. Maybe it's just because it's there's a town in the middle of the forest and it's just surrounded by forest, right, that might be it. But yeah, I mean that we were talking about how there's so many episodes.

34:09 The thing that would blow your mind is if you could see all the conversations that I'm having on the side with people that won't even come forward anonymous and I can't use anything, that stuff would blow your mind. In that same area. It's just there's a lot, a lot, a lot of people having sightings. Weird stuff happened in that area there, and there's you know, it's weird. You mentioned forest spirits. I had this person that I was talking to once and she was saying that she thought there were lay lines and the big Bigfoot was a for spirit. She wouldn't she wouldn't elaborate. But is there any reason that you had brought that up or just because it's one of the prevalent ways of thinking of it.

35:02 It's kind of one of the prevalent ways of thinking about But you know, I've kind of bounced around with my own theories, and I try to I try to chalk things up to Usually the simplest explanation is the best, you know. But I, like I said, I just I just don't know. I'm not I try not to preclude things. I try to keep an open mind about things, like I'm open minded about ghost spirits, you know, aliens Like I would hate to think that we're the only sentient life in the galaxy. You know that sounds miserable, honestly, But you know, like I said, I don't. I don't want to cast judgment on people who have their beliefs and stuff. If it is a forced spirit, it's I mean that would it would make sense that it's you know, it fits in with a lot of the native lore in the area. I don't think it's a coincidence that multiple cultures across the content have a large hairy man that lives out in the forest. You know that they've talked their stories that they've talked about for thousands of years.

36:09 I don't think that's a coincidence, but it's I think the problem with the problem with humans is that there's things that just lie on the boundaries of our knowledge that we just probably will never figure out. And I think that whatever creature is out in the woods may be one of those things. And I mean, I I you know, I have my questions, but all of my experiences they've been, you know, they've been pretty docile and not really like life changing per se and telling them over the years, it used to kind of give me the chills, especially the one with the interactions over the minds.

36:52 But I don't know, I don't lose sleep over it. Like I'm comfortable knowing that I don't know, and some people, some people have a lot more I guess, drive to figure it out. But I think that whatever, you know, if it big foots out there in the woods, I take it more. It's just kind of a fact of nature. You know, I don't see it. You know, whether he's a spirit or you know, an ape or whatever, it's no different than a cougar or a bear being out in the woods knowing their thing, you know. Mm hmm. That's that's very very interesting. And the thing that I picked up from actually going out there and spending time is like it's obviously a real thing, or everyone in that region of the US is absolutely insane because everyone is having sightings. It's like, and that's not the case, you know what I mean, Like there's no way.

37:59 Yeah, there's a. Way that everyone in the entire state of Oregon, in Washington and northern California is lying. And it's just it's a different case when you get out there and then you just spend a week talking to people all over the place and just people come up randomly, and it just it's crazy, man, it's it's it's amazing. I loved it. But spending so much time out there, were there any things? Would you hear things over the years like bigfoot stories that would that would come up every once in a while, the same one get passed around, and.

38:40 Well in terms of like people I know personally. Or well, I mean, that's a that's a tricky thing because it's like you don't want to tell someone's story. But then there's also things where it's like if eventually a story I think passes from it happened to my buddy into an actual like legend or or and I don't know if there's a certain like time time frame that that takes, but. It ends up becoming a game of telephone. Yeah, there's I can't really think of anything off the top of my head. Most of the people, I mean, half of my friend group was there when we had our encounters.

39:24 I mean, d He's been the persistent friend with you know, the shadows and the whooping, and you know, we've yet, we've we've been to all sorts of places in the Cascades. It's not I I don't think it's I know Oakward is crazy, but I think beings that there's a concentration of people right in the middle, you know, that kind of lends to more encounters. But a lot of the a lot of the cascades on the west side is just it's strange. What is it? What is it called? It's the os effect or whatever when it's dead silent in the woods. Oh, tell me, tell me more about that, because I've I think I've experienced it, but I didn't know there was a thing for it.

40:08 I believe it's called the oz effector Osmon effectors, something like that, and it's it's just a phenomenon of when it's just completely dead silent the woods, no bugs, no birds, no wind, completely still just dead silent. Nothing's moving, just stagnant air. It's crazy. Consistently over by the mines by Cottage Grove, it's it's like that almost every time I go there, and I'm not sure why. The place has a vibe to it, and it's and there's some there's some places back in there that it's more intense than others. In the main area, it's more it's more subdued. But some of those some of those trails that go off into the old mines and stuff like, it's you'll find a cabin or something and it's just you're it's like you're being watched. But I don't think that washed is the correct terminology, because washed is like somebody following you with their eyes. You know. In this case, it feels like somebody has seen you, but they're not directly observing you.

41:15 They know you're there. Does that make sense? Yeah, that's very interesting. Yeah, it's that's it's persistent over there. It's somewhat I've known. Its persistent in by Oakridge, there's quite a there's a few spots I like to go up there, I don't go to that prairie too much because they burned that off some years ago. But I've been. I've chomped up kind of by High Prairie north of town up there, and it's it's over by this old railroad trestle that I don't I know, all the locals know it, but it was same story. He just dad quiet there when I was there completely still. Oh really wow, Yeah, that's like way up on High Prairie.

41:59 Kind of. It's it's it's kind of over between like hy Prairie and the Huckleberry Flats. Okay, gotcha. It's it's just a ruin of an old logging railroad trestle. It's fall it's they built it in like the nineteen twenties and it fell down like thirty years ago. It's just I like to go find weird like that in the woods, which Bobby of mine, I guess. But I've noticed I've noticed in the silence and usually some kind of infrastructure, they tend to go hand in hand. I mean, this is this is kind of my own personal theory, but anywhere that there's like disturbed earth mines, caves, old logging and stuff, it seems most prevalent there because I've been I've been to a lot of different mining areas all over Oregon, and believe it or not, there was well, there was some prospecting up kind of by Oak Ridge and those areas. It's just it's it's strange. It's a strange vibe and southern Oregon too. I think what was that guy's name you interviewed, the delivery guy. I think his name is Arturo.

43:13 Yeah, Ardurou is really cool, So he's a cool dude. Oh yeah, that's that was quite a story. That that second story when he was talking about going up by the old miners and stuff, that that sounds like a movie plot to me, and that that that was the one I think that really convinced me to come and talk to you about things really, because I'm ninety percent sure I know where that area is, and I would totally believe it because there's there's some there's a mining district around where he was talking about. You go up there and you'll see these trail like cell phone trail cameras and signs that say private road looters will be shot, stuff like that, and like motion detectors done up there.

44:00 There is a motion detector hidden in some rocks by tree, and up the road you could see a RV with the blue tarp on it. So it's that's strange up there too, But I think that's a different flavor. Is strange. But a lot of the some of the people that you've had on I recognize the areas that they're talking about, and I can totally see it. I don't remember the guy's name, but he said him and his dad went to a quarry south of oak Ridge that had a big quartzman in it. M I know I know about where that is. And that's crazy. It's it's just it's baffling to me that these people are telling the stories of places I've been to, and it's it's it's strange.

44:48 It's kind of like piece is kind of moving together and it's oddly coincidental. It is very weird how you can talk to people. It doesn't matter if they're really young or especially in that area, it doesn't matter if they're really young or really old. There's the common threat is bigfoot in all the stories, and it just keeps coming through time. My experiences aren't like I said, They're not like or it's shattering remarkable. You know, I don't have anything on video or any kind of wild theories or something. It's just I think, as people put it, high strangeness, I.

45:29 Guess, oh absolutely. And the thing is is like, if you spend any amount of time out there, you're going to find out pretty quick that it's not just Bigfoot. There's definitely more to it in that whole region out there where there's other stuff going on. I mean, the people Steve was telling me that there's definitely some haunted places in the town. So you know, it's not just not just big there's a lot of weird stuff. But I mean, you know, anything that you hear I found is valuable because it helps flesh out the story a little bit and helps you connect dots on things down the road. So I appreciate you coming on and spending some time and sharing what you've experienced over the years in some places that we've already talked about. It's been very enjoyable. Please take a minute to help out the show by subscribing on YouTube, making sure you hit the bell so you don't miss any notifications, and share the episode on YouTube with a friend. Also, if you're listening to us on a podcast. Thank you so much. Make sure that you're subscribed. Share the show with a friend. Really, it's all about sharing the show wherever you can. If you've had a Bigfoot encounter related to the following, or know someone who has, please reach out to me at big Phasis at gmail dot com or pass on my email.

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