Oct. 30, 2024

Sasquatch Strangeness of Oakridge, Oregon!

Dive into the unsettling wilderness experiences in Oregon as our guest Joe recounts various eerie encounters. From strange electronic beeping and whooping sounds near Oakridge to inexplicable black shadows and rhythmic howls in Cottage Grove, these...

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Season 1

Dive into the unsettling wilderness experiences in Oregon as our guest Joe recounts various eerie encounters. From strange electronic beeping and whooping sounds near Oakridge to inexplicable black shadows and rhythmic howls in Cottage Grove, these stories defy natural explanations and deepen the mystery of the Oregon wilderness. The episode also explores the profound 'Oz Effect,' hyper-intelligent creatures, and forest spirits, adding layers of intrigue to these chilling tales. Join us as we seek to unravel the mysteries of Bigfoot and other unexplained phenomena lurking in Oregon's forests.

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All right, Big for Society. I've got the privilege of

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talking to Joe today. Joe's an individual that reached out

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to me through email. He's got some very interesting things

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that have happened to him over the years out there

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in Oregon. Excited to talk to him. Tonight's Joe. How's

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it going, man, It's going good.

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Thanks for having.

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Me, absolutely, man. I'm excited to get right into it

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to talk about a area of Orgon that I love.

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We were talking in the pre show about Oakridge, and

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I think that potentially may come up as one of

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the locations that we're talking about. But we're going to

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be bouncing around and I'm going to go ahead and

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pass things right over to you, Joe, And thanks again

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for spending some time with me.

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Yeah, thank you. So. I I guess for a little background,

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I've lived in an Oregon my whole life, and I

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kind of considered myself a casual adventurer. I don't go

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do anything too crazy, but I get around all, you know,

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different places in Oregon and you know, out to the desert,

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out to the mountains, out to the coast, all that

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kind of stuff. And I think when I was a kid,

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I was always fascinated by unexplained stuff, you know, spooky

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places and unexplained phenomenon, and you know, Bigfoot was up there,

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and I was kind of just kind of treat it

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as more of a novelty. But sometime in my early

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teenage years, I was with my friend let's call him

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D and we were watching the show and it was

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a show about Bigfoot, and it was some like Potato

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Vision footage from the nineties, the Memorial Day footage from

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I think Washington, and I remember we looked at each

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other they were like, you know, in our teenage voice

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to be like, yeah, we're gonna go. We're gonna go

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find that. It's always just kind of been that thing

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in the back of our minds that you know, we're

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gonna go out in the woods and find them, and

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you know, but it kind of changed eventually when a

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couple of years later, I went on a camping trip

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in February with a relative and his roommate and I

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think I was about fourteen at the time, and it

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was clear out and we got to the spot that's

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near Oak Ridge and it's yeah, I want to say,

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it's a little ways north and we called this spot

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in the prairie and it was this kind of up

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a hill and just kind of this meadow off a

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logging road that we just kind of decided to camp

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at because you know, you know, it was cool out

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in the woods and stuff. And we got there a

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little bit before dusk and we got everything set up

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and we were being we were being hooligans, and you know,

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we had a little adult beverages. Well started to a least,

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and then it started getting dark and a little bit

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a little bit past dark, it was very very quiet.

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And I mean it's so it's usually pretty quiet in

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the winter over there, it seems like. But it was

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very quiet, no birds or anything, and we were just

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hanging out by the campfire, and we heard this sound

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and it was I'm not quite sure how to describe it.

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It sounded like a coyote, like a single coyote howl,

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but the sound didn't have any any of the yips

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that you would hear with normal coyote calls. And it

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was across it was across the meadow and it kept

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as time progressed probably about I want to say about

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it a little less than an hour. It kept getting

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closer louder. What the strange thing about it is is

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that it it sounded the same every time, like it

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was like a recording, like somebody had recorded a coyote

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howl and then just playing it back exactly the same

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every time. And so we got it got a little

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got a little freaky because that that didn't sound right,

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because I've heard coyotes and all sorts of other craters

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out there, and it's it just sounded odd. And after

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just short of an hour, it just as it got

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closer and louder, it just stopped completely. And at this

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point we're all kind of looking at other like, well,

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that's kind of strange. Well, my accomplice is we're a

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little bit older than I was, so they were, you know,

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being a little bit more macho and having more bad

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I was. You know, I was a kid when I

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was a teenager, and I was I was scared. But

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we ended up going on a walk and following a

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old logging road that kind of circled to the top

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of this meadow, and nothing, nothing really happened. It was

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just quiet didn't see anything, didn't hear anything, and we're

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kind of just, I don't know, for lack of a

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better term, just turning as who was out there and

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didn't see nothing. So my relative's roommate was like, well,

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you know, if something does come by, And as you're

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saying that, in one sweet motion, he pulls out a

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handgun and shoots it off in the air. Said yeah, okay,

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you know, I get the point. But we go back

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to the campfire and we're just you know, hanging out

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a little while later in the evening, I want to

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say this is probably closer to eight or nine, there

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was this this other noise that we started hearing, and

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it was like this beeping noise, like almost kind of

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like the some kind of like electronic beating noise you'd

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hear in like a sci fi movie or some kind

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of like detector or something, you know, very stereotypical. But

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it would change pitch and it would change the cadence,

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and like I was thinking to myself, like what is that? Like,

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what is what is this electronic noise I'm hearing? And

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I don't think either either one of the guys are

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messing with me, and that's not something they would do,

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at least not that, not like that. And over I

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want to say about a half hour roughly, it had

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made basically a half circle around us in terms of

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where we were hearing it. And then it just stops,

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and I'm starting to get like concerned. I'm like, is that,

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you know, is that some like forest ranger coming out

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here to bust us for you know, underage drinking or something?

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Or is it bigfoot? Is it aliens? Is it? You

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know a lot of things are going through my mind,

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and I kind of I didn't really sleep that night.

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I attempted to, and we were cowboy camping. We were

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on cots and sleeping bags, and it was cold and

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very dry, and I could hear anything that would move,

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And the only other thing I heard that night wasn't

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al hooting, probably three in the morning, after the moon

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came up. Yeah, the rest of that day ended up

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in a nasty little teenager hangover, which was unpleasant. But

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that's besides the point that that was really the first

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time I ever had any kind of unexplained sound in

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the woods that like I couldn't chalk up to the

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usual suspects, you know, deer bear or whatever, and it's

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stuck with me, and I stewed on it for years

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and years, and I a few years later, I tried

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to go back to find the place, and I couldn't

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locate it because at the time, you know, Google Earth

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and stuff like that wasn't really a thing, you know,

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And this was like two thousand and four, I want

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to say, so I kind of just, you know, I

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was like, oh, that's a weird experience, and it kind

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of became one of my you know, campfire stories in

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the future, and I just kind of followed that a way.

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But about five years later, me and some friends went

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out to do you know where the Coast Range.

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Is further west right, Yeah, So out.

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In the Coast Range there's some like shooting spots kind

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of like southwest of Eugene that a lot of people

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go to. And we again in February, coincidentally enough, on

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a full moon, Me and my friend d I mentioned earlier,

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and a couple of other friends decided to go up

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to one of these shooting spots because we were, you know,

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teenagers with nothing to do, and you know, we go

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in the woods at two in the morning, and so

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we go to this one spot and this spot is

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like a it's like a big gully and if you're

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you're facing it, you're kind of looking into it. And

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on the left an old logging road went up to landing,

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and to the right there was another road that was

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very overgrown and that kind of skirted the middle of

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the gully and went off into the hills a little bit.

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So me and Dee grabbed our rifles and three of

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our other friends came with and we hopped over the

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berm the block of the road and walked up to

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this landing and we were just eating some food and

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hanging out and they're there for a little bit. And

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this this landing you can look pretty much. It's right

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in the middle, like the side of the goalie, and

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you can kind of survey the whole goalie from there.

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And at some point I don't remember who saw it first,

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but there was this big black shadow on the far

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side of the goalie. And now, mind you, the moon

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the moon was out and full, completely full this time,

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so it was actually quite bright out. We didn't have

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any flashlights or anything, but we saw this big black

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thing moving up the hill and it wasn't really it

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didn't really have much of a shape. It was I'm

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not quite sure how to put it into words. It was.

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It was very, very dark. But it's huge because they

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they the logging companies, had logged out and replanted trees

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in that goalie. And these trees were, you know, only

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a couple of years old, so they were only maybe

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about seven feet tall, roughly seven eight feet tall. They

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were taller than me and I'm I'm six foot seven.

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So we're watching this black mass go up the far

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side of the gullie and he had his rifles a

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scope on it, and he pulls up his rifle and

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he's looking through the scope and he's I can see

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I can see the rifle trailing it as it's going

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up the hill and he and I asked him. I

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was like, dude, what do you see. He's like, I'm

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not sure. It's just black. It's like a shadow. And

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I'm like, well, here, let me let me take a look.

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And sure enough, I look through the scope. It's a

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nine power scope and it's just it's just a void,

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and it's just going up the far side of the gully.

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And our other friends were getting a little nervous, sufficed

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to say, so, I said, you know we should probably leave.

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This doesn't feel right. I'm not sure what that is.

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And we got all our stuff packed up, and right

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before we were about to leave, I called out to him.

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I was like, hey, if you're a person, say something.

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I didn't hear anything. Well, I took my rifle up

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and I fired two shots in the air because I

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was quite nervous. I thought I was a person or something,

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but yeah, I was not, not sitting with me. So

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we all left and they were all everybody's quiet on

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the ride home, and it seemed like nobody really at

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the time. It seemed like really really knew what to

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make of the situation. Well, a while later, he discovers

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he lost his cell phone. So, I want to say

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about a month later, him and I went up there

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to look at that goalie during the daylight, and I

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had a GPS radio, so I started marking. I marked

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where the landing was, and then he stayed up at

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the landing and I went down on the goalie went

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on the far side approximately where we saw the shadow,

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and I wanted to get a distance on it, and

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it was roughly, i want to say, two hundred yards

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away from where we were, and I was. That's when

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I noticed the trees were taller than I was there,

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you know, a foot are better over me. I was

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looking up at him like, oh, that's that's strange, big

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for society.

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Who will be right back after these messages?

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And incidentally, he found his cell phone right about where

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he was observing me from and it still worked, believe

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it or not. Yeah, so we never really got any

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answers on that. Sometime later, Dee's mom actually used to

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clean house for Lee Trippett and she, I guess had

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mentioned to him about us seeing those shadows and whatever

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that was up there, and he actually offered to go

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out there with us, and he wanted to take a

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look at it. And at that time, I'm not sure

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how old Lee was, but you know, he was an

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older guy and he was We took him back up

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to that goalie and we bush whacked on the our

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side where we saw the shadows to get there, start

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of crossing down and back up. We took the road

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and we went there, showed him in the place, took

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him kind of in some of the back roads, and

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he he didn't really say he didn't really postulate too

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much on you know, what's what he saw and or

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what we saw and what might be out there. But

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he's like, you know, this is kind of some in

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my opinion at least, this is some prime Bigfoot territory.

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And so we just kind of the United just kind

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of shrugged and said okay, and we went back to

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went back and left. So it's it's it's strange because

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I've never really felt like, in terms of big Foot,

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I've never really been to woo woo about it, you know.

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I've always kind of chalked it up to, like I

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want to say, not necessarily an ape, but some form

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of creature with the approximate intelligence of a human and

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the approximate intelligence of like a gorilla, which I believe

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is like roughly five times as strong as humans are.

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And Lee was kind of on the drive home, he

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was kind of getting a little woo woo about it.

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In my opinion. I mean, I don't judge. People can

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believe what they want about whatever critters are out there.

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I'm you know, I'm not here to cast judgment on that,

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but it really got it kind of got me thinking,

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and so over the years I was just eventually just

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kind of took a deep dive into you know, researching

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what other people had, you know, come across and turns

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of bigfoot stuff. And have you ever heard of the

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YouTube guy. He's Bob Gimlin.

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With a y yes, yep. I I'm familiar with Bob.

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I've never talked to him, but yeah.

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Yeah, so I I've been kind of watching him over

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the years and all sorts of other places because I

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got a little I got a little disenfranchised with the

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whole bigfoot thing after finding Bigfoot was kind of at

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its peak popularity. I don't know, it just it just

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seemed kind of silly to me. So I would anytime

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people think, you know, anytime i'd I'd mentioned one of

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those stories or something people but oh yeah, it's like

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I'm finding Bigfoot or something, and I just would roll

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my eyes. But at some point though, I just kind

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of said, whatever, you know, my what I experienced were

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those was that shadow Bigfoot? I don't know. Maybe was

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that like fake coyote howling that I heard out in

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the prairie. Was that Bigfoot? Maybe? I've heard a lot

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of people talk about animal mimicry, and you know, things

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going silent in the woods when bigfoots around, and things

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like that. But what ended up happening later which really

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kind of like really kind of set the foundation for

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how what I believe in was once again with my

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friend d we had been going up on weekends to

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explore some of the old mindes over by Cottage Grove

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and there's this one mind that was kind of down

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this sneaking road on the side of a ridge, and

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we were when was this, I want to say this

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is probably in like two thousand sixteen, So we'd been

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hiking down this road for probably about twenty minutes, and

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we came to this intersection where there was a switch

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back to the left, but the road, the gravel road,

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kind of kept going and then stopped shortly and there's

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an overlook and I heard this noise and I'm not

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quite sure how to describe it that it makes sense,

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but it it was like it makes between like a

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grouse and like the toad, but like if you pitched

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it down, so it's like right on the edge of

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you're hearing kind of like a really basy car like

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driving off of the distance, you know, and it kept

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making this like whooping sound for lack of about a word,

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kind of the steady, steady pace up until we got

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to it, and then it stopped. And then I look

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back to d and I'm like, dude, what is that?

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He's like, I don't know, dude. So we were kind

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of just we kind of just stood there waiting for

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it to kind of resume, and it did, and I

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started walking a little bit. Then it stopped, and then

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every footstep I took it would make the sound. And

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I noticed that and if I walked each foots that

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made the sound. If I stopped walking, it would stop, pause,

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and then resume its original cadence to its whooping. Does

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that make sense?

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Yes? It does?

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Okay, Yeah, I'm a little alone. I'm just I'm not

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quite sure how to describe how it worked. But that's

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the best I can do. But so we tested it.

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So we using hand signs. I I kind of signaled

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a ded for him to walk over to a point

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and then stop, and he walked, and then it whooped

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to each each one of his footsteps, and when he

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stopped walking, it stopped and resumed its original original cadence.

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And we're both kind of looking at you like, yo,

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what is that? And and the strange thing is is

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that I didn't feel afraid at the time. I was

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more perplexed and curious another one. A lot of people,

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a lot of my a lot of people talk about

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their experiences. They either get over you know, super scared,

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overwhelming fear, or then you feel at peace or whatever.

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I just very curious about it. And so we we

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we did this thing where we did the walking test

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multiple times, and then after probably about I don't know,

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ten twenty minutes of doing that, we kind of just

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looked at each other and kind of whispered, and he's like, yeah,

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that's something intelligent. That's not a grouse. Grouse don't do that.

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It's not a bullfrog. It's it's something clearly interacting with us.

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And I was like it and I asked you. I

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was like, that sounds like and it sounds like a

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bullfrog and a grouse or something. He's like, it sounds

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like trees clacking together. To me, Like, really, that doesn't

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that's not at all what I'm hearing. But he also

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just I'm pretty sure he described it as also being

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kind of on the edge of his hearing too, So

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I don't know. We ended up saying, Okay, well, we'll

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come back to it. We wanted to go down the

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road or and we walked down the road a little

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ways and the only other animal we heard was a

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very angry bird up in a tree. But other than that,

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it was dad silent. And as we were walking away,

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we kept hearing the the whooping sound, and when we

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came back, it wasn't there. And so that was almost

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kind of more suspicious than when we heard it the

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first time, that it wasn't there at all. The rest

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of the day, it was just you know, we didn't

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see or hear anything, or it was just quiet up there.

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And we got in the car and left, and yeah,

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that was that was probably one of the more profound

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experiences that I had. We we ended up talking to

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Lee again about it, and we actually went to his

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house to talk about it, because at that time he

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wasn't in very good health, and we kind of just

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relayed the same story. And it was curious. He he

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turned around to me and he looked at me dead

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in the eye and said, what were you doing up

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by the minds? I don't know, exploring And he he

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kind of had his own theory that it was like

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a like a juvenile bigfoot or something that was being

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playful with us. He also mentioned that they they act

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strangely because they according to him, he said that they

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can smell metal or something, I think some other thing.

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That's what he said. He said he can they can

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smell metal, and they acted differently, especially when like you're

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carrying like a weapon, and when I go hiking, you know,

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with friends, were usually armed. You know, not that we're

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expecting any kind of like encounter to you know, getting

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some kind of conflict with you know, a bigfoot or

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anything like that. None of that. Mostly just like you know,

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there's not very nice people out in some of those woods,

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and you know, it's precautionary. And we also explained that

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to him, and he he seemed kind of stumped about it.

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From what I understand, he was pretty deep into bigfoot

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for a long time. He was probably I think it

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was probably even like the seventies, I think sixties or seventies.

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He started getting into it back in the early days.

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He pretty much just said that it was he thought

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of the juvenile and I don't know that kind of

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that whole thing left me with more questions than answers.

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You know, I've never really I haven't had any exciting,

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you know, visuals or any kind of psychic conversations or

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anything like that. I often joke with people that I'm

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a psychic nol. I've been to all these you know,

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allegedly haunted place. He's never seen a ghost, you know,

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nothing like that. But I don't know. It's but that

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last one with the interaction, really, that's that's what stuck

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with me.

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That interaction would would stick with me probably for the

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rest of my life. I haven't experienced anything that weird,

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kind of weird, but not not that weird. I remember

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we were talking about Lee Trippett. I think we were

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talking about him a while back too, and I started

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to look for him because I think you had said

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he was like the bigfoot guy in Eugene, Oregon area, right, yeah, yeah,

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But you can't find a lot on them. But I

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did find there's like some research library that had an

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interview that he did way back in sixty three with

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Don Hunter, who was the guy who used to hang

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out with Renee to Hindon. So he's definitely been into

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the subject for a long time. I can't find an obituary.

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I'm guessing probably unfortunately Lee is no longer with us,

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or he'd have to be extremely old, but I don't know.

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It sounds like a very interesting character though.

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He was. He's seemed very genuine. He he'd he asked

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us we listen to Coast to Coast am and at

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that time it wasn't something those really on my radar

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that that did kind of come up a little bit

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later on. But he just he was a very kind person.

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He was. He gave us a book. Was it called

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I want to say it was something to the effect

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of Sasquatch in the UFO connection or something like that.

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Does that sound familiar to you?

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Was it the Sasquatch people in their inner dimensional Connection?

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No? I know for a fact I had UFO in it.

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Okay, cool, Yeah, I.

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Don't know where that book ended up. That's I think

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he had it. And he's moved around a couple of times. Yeah. No,

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Lee was a great guy, and he wasn't at that

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time after we told him about the interaction over by

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the minds. Yeah, he was. He wasn't in good health then,

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so yeah, I I I kind of think he's probably

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no longer with us, And you're right, I can't find

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anything about him. And it's unfortunate because he had some

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toy that he had. They got really popular back in

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the sixties that he had invented, and he had a

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business that was selling those toys for a while, and

454
00:30:49.079 --> 00:30:51.279
then eventually it was like one of those Newton's Cradle

455
00:30:51.319 --> 00:30:51.839
type things.

456
00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:55.799
Okay, yeah, yeah, that's cool.

457
00:30:55.920 --> 00:30:58.000
I'm a little I'm a little out of touch with

458
00:30:57.839 --> 00:31:00.599
what it is. It's been a while since I into it.

459
00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:04.079
But yeah, he was making dolls for quite a while,

460
00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:06.880
and then all these other companies just kind of out

461
00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:10.119
out competed them because they would undercut the price, and

462
00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:11.720
he just kind of gave up. And that's when I

463
00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:13.119
guess he got into Bigfoot.

464
00:31:13.160 --> 00:31:16.440
From what I understand, big for society. Who will be

465
00:31:16.519 --> 00:31:18.599
right back after these messages.

466
00:31:35.960 --> 00:31:40.640
But yeah, he gives that book and it was kind

467
00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:43.359
of strange because I, like I said, we left his

468
00:31:43.480 --> 00:31:45.920
house I think, with more questions than answers. And ever

469
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:49.720
since then, I, you know, nothing's really happened to me

470
00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:54.720
since then. I mean, I go out all sorts of places.

471
00:31:54.759 --> 00:31:57.200
I've been to caves in the middle of the desert

472
00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:01.079
with pictographs and you know, minds and stuff like that.

473
00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:07.680
It's it's just been mainly those those encounters I've had

474
00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:13.319
a couple minor encounters. I saw a tree shaking violently

475
00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:17.119
for a couple of seconds one time, but at that

476
00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:19.680
time I saw that didn't immediately spring oh, look it's

477
00:32:19.680 --> 00:32:24.640
a big foot, you know. But yeah, I've been on

478
00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:30.720
the lookout though I've seen some questionable things, but I

479
00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:39.440
kind of lean more towards it's probably not bigfoot, because

480
00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:41.599
I think the best way to describe my beliefs is

481
00:32:41.599 --> 00:32:49.400
that there's there's something out there, and whether it's a

482
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:54.119
hyper you know, a hyper intelligent ape type critter, or

483
00:32:54.319 --> 00:32:57.440
some kind of forest spirit or some kind of alien,

484
00:32:57.880 --> 00:33:01.119
you know. I I'm not going to say I know

485
00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:04.599
one way or another. I think that's foolish because I

486
00:33:04.920 --> 00:33:11.599
just don't know. But just just the amount of the

487
00:33:11.599 --> 00:33:14.119
amount of things that people talk about that they see

488
00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:17.839
and interact with, and like what we were talking about earlier,

489
00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:20.000
about all the people you talked about in Oak Ridge,

490
00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:26.359
it's crazy. I didn't I didn't realize so many people

491
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:31.200
had that going on up there. I was kind of earlier,

492
00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:33.160
you know, earlier in my life. I just kind of

493
00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:35.480
talked they put up to you know, campfire stories, and

494
00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:39.200
but you know, it's time progressed and you know, I

495
00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:41.559
heard all the helpless, all those videos you put out

496
00:33:41.880 --> 00:33:46.000
of people's experiences around here, and it's kind of changed

497
00:33:46.039 --> 00:33:47.440
my perspective among things.

498
00:33:48.440 --> 00:33:51.319
Joe, it is it is wild in that area, and

499
00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:54.319
I'm not I'm not sure why it's so wild in

500
00:33:54.359 --> 00:33:58.240
that area. Maybe it's just because it's there's a town

501
00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:01.880
in the middle of the forest and it's just surrounded

502
00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:05.559
by forest, right, that might be it. But yeah, I

503
00:34:05.599 --> 00:34:09.159
mean that we were talking about how there's so many episodes.

504
00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:11.679
The thing that would blow your mind is if you

505
00:34:11.679 --> 00:34:14.039
could see all the conversations that I'm having on the

506
00:34:14.119 --> 00:34:19.519
side with people that won't even come forward anonymous and

507
00:34:19.599 --> 00:34:23.239
I can't use anything, that stuff would blow your mind.

508
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:28.159
In that same area. It's just there's a lot, a lot,

509
00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:33.440
a lot of people having sightings. Weird stuff happened in

510
00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:37.159
that area there, and there's you know, it's weird. You

511
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:41.599
mentioned forest spirits. I had this person that I was

512
00:34:41.639 --> 00:34:46.559
talking to once and she was saying that she thought

513
00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:50.800
there were lay lines and the big Bigfoot was a

514
00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:54.760
for spirit. She wouldn't she wouldn't elaborate. But is there

515
00:34:54.800 --> 00:34:56.960
any reason that you had brought that up or just

516
00:34:57.000 --> 00:35:02.880
because it's one of the prevalent ways of thinking of it.

517
00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:06.119
It's kind of one of the prevalent ways of thinking

518
00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:08.159
about But you know, I've kind of bounced around with

519
00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:13.000
my own theories, and I try to I try to

520
00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:16.000
chalk things up to Usually the simplest explanation is the best,

521
00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:19.320
you know. But I, like I said, I just I

522
00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:22.360
just don't know. I'm not I try not to preclude things.

523
00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:24.159
I try to keep an open mind about things, like

524
00:35:24.199 --> 00:35:29.159
I'm open minded about ghost spirits, you know, aliens Like

525
00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:32.320
I would hate to think that we're the only sentient

526
00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:35.840
life in the galaxy. You know that sounds miserable, honestly,

527
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:40.760
But you know, like I said, I don't. I don't

528
00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:43.760
want to cast judgment on people who have their beliefs

529
00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:48.519
and stuff. If it is a forced spirit, it's I

530
00:35:48.519 --> 00:35:52.159
mean that would it would make sense that it's you know,

531
00:35:52.559 --> 00:35:55.360
it fits in with a lot of the native lore

532
00:35:55.639 --> 00:35:57.800
in the area. I don't think it's a coincidence that

533
00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:04.639
multiple cultures across the content have a large hairy man

534
00:36:04.679 --> 00:36:07.119
that lives out in the forest. You know that they've

535
00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:09.840
talked their stories that they've talked about for thousands of years.

536
00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:14.960
I don't think that's a coincidence, but it's I think

537
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:17.599
the problem with the problem with humans is that there's

538
00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:20.559
things that just lie on the boundaries of our knowledge

539
00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:25.079
that we just probably will never figure out. And I

540
00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:29.440
think that whatever creature is out in the woods may

541
00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:33.119
be one of those things. And I mean, I I

542
00:36:33.159 --> 00:36:37.960
you know, I have my questions, but all of my

543
00:36:38.039 --> 00:36:40.199
experiences they've been, you know, they've been pretty docile and

544
00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:47.119
not really like life changing per se and telling them

545
00:36:47.159 --> 00:36:48.760
over the years, it used to kind of give me

546
00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:52.400
the chills, especially the one with the interactions over the minds.

547
00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:59.320
But I don't know, I don't lose sleep over it.

548
00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:07.480
Like I'm comfortable knowing that I don't know, and some people,

549
00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:11.880
some people have a lot more I guess, drive to

550
00:37:11.880 --> 00:37:14.599
figure it out. But I think that whatever, you know,

551
00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:17.239
if it big foots out there in the woods, I

552
00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:19.639
take it more. It's just kind of a fact of nature.

553
00:37:19.840 --> 00:37:22.119
You know, I don't see it. You know, whether he's

554
00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:26.320
a spirit or you know, an ape or whatever, it's

555
00:37:26.360 --> 00:37:28.760
no different than a cougar or a bear being out

556
00:37:28.760 --> 00:37:30.400
in the woods knowing their thing, you know.

557
00:37:31.719 --> 00:37:35.679
Mm hmm. That's that's very very interesting. And the thing

558
00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:38.159
that I picked up from actually going out there and

559
00:37:38.199 --> 00:37:46.039
spending time is like it's obviously a real thing, or

560
00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:50.079
everyone in that region of the US is absolutely insane

561
00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:55.039
because everyone is having sightings. It's like, and that's not

562
00:37:55.159 --> 00:37:59.440
the case, you know what I mean, Like there's no way.

563
00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:00.199
Yeah, there's a.

564
00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:03.760
Way that everyone in the entire state of Oregon, in

565
00:38:03.920 --> 00:38:06.760
Washington and northern California is lying. And it's just it's

566
00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:09.280
a different case when you get out there and then

567
00:38:09.400 --> 00:38:13.280
you just spend a week talking to people all over

568
00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:16.760
the place and just people come up randomly, and it

569
00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:22.639
just it's crazy, man, it's it's it's amazing. I loved it.

570
00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:27.719
But spending so much time out there, were there any things?

571
00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:32.039
Would you hear things over the years like bigfoot stories

572
00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:34.440
that would that would come up every once in a while,

573
00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:36.480
the same one get passed around, and.

574
00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:43.440
Well in terms of like people I know personally.

575
00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:45.400
Or well, I mean, that's a that's a tricky thing

576
00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:48.239
because it's like you don't want to tell someone's story.

577
00:38:48.280 --> 00:38:52.079
But then there's also things where it's like if eventually

578
00:38:52.320 --> 00:38:56.159
a story I think passes from it happened to my

579
00:38:56.239 --> 00:39:01.079
buddy into an actual like legend or or and I

580
00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:05.519
don't know if there's a certain like time time frame

581
00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:06.719
that that takes, but.

582
00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:13.880
It ends up becoming a game of telephone. Yeah, there's

583
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:16.239
I can't really think of anything off the top of

584
00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:20.239
my head. Most of the people, I mean, half of

585
00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:24.280
my friend group was there when we had our encounters.

586
00:39:24.320 --> 00:39:27.920
I mean, d He's been the persistent friend with you know,

587
00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:34.840
the shadows and the whooping, and you know, we've yet,

588
00:39:35.320 --> 00:39:38.519
we've we've been to all sorts of places in the Cascades.

589
00:39:38.559 --> 00:39:41.360
It's not I I don't think it's I know Oakward

590
00:39:41.480 --> 00:39:45.000
is crazy, but I think beings that there's a concentration

591
00:39:45.039 --> 00:39:48.079
of people right in the middle, you know, that kind

592
00:39:48.079 --> 00:39:52.920
of lends to more encounters. But a lot of the

593
00:39:53.079 --> 00:39:55.159
a lot of the cascades on the west side is

594
00:39:55.199 --> 00:39:57.880
just it's strange. What is it? What is it called?

595
00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:01.000
It's the os effect or whatever when it's dead silent

596
00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:01.559
in the woods.

597
00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:04.000
Oh, tell me, tell me more about that, because I've

598
00:40:04.239 --> 00:40:06.039
I think I've experienced it, but I didn't know there

599
00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:06.840
was a thing for it.

600
00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:11.159
I believe it's called the oz effector Osmon effectors, something

601
00:40:11.239 --> 00:40:15.599
like that, and it's it's just a phenomenon of when

602
00:40:15.599 --> 00:40:19.559
it's just completely dead silent the woods, no bugs, no birds,

603
00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:25.039
no wind, completely still just dead silent. Nothing's moving, just

604
00:40:25.079 --> 00:40:30.639
stagnant air. It's crazy. Consistently over by the mines by

605
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:33.719
Cottage Grove, it's it's like that almost every time I

606
00:40:33.760 --> 00:40:37.239
go there, and I'm not sure why. The place has

607
00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:43.079
a vibe to it, and it's and there's some there's

608
00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:45.960
some places back in there that it's more intense than others.

609
00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:49.239
In the main area, it's more it's more subdued. But

610
00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:52.119
some of those some of those trails that go off

611
00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:55.400
into the old mines and stuff like, it's you'll find

612
00:40:55.400 --> 00:40:57.480
a cabin or something and it's just you're it's like

613
00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:02.000
you're being watched. But I don't think that washed is

614
00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:06.960
the correct terminology, because washed is like somebody following you

615
00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:11.760
with their eyes. You know. In this case, it feels

616
00:41:11.840 --> 00:41:15.039
like somebody has seen you, but they're not directly observing you.

617
00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:17.320
They know you're there. Does that make sense?

618
00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:20.880
Yeah, that's very interesting.

619
00:41:21.159 --> 00:41:25.320
Yeah, it's that's it's persistent over there. It's somewhat I've known.

620
00:41:25.320 --> 00:41:29.199
Its persistent in by Oakridge, there's quite a there's a

621
00:41:29.199 --> 00:41:31.639
few spots I like to go up there, I don't

622
00:41:31.679 --> 00:41:33.679
go to that prairie too much because they burned that

623
00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:38.719
off some years ago. But I've been. I've chomped up

624
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:41.320
kind of by High Prairie north of town up there,

625
00:41:41.360 --> 00:41:45.079
and it's it's over by this old railroad trestle that

626
00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:47.800
I don't I know, all the locals know it, but

627
00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:50.880
it was same story. He just dad quiet there when

628
00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:53.079
I was there completely still.

629
00:41:53.199 --> 00:41:57.880
Oh really wow, Yeah, that's like way up on High Prairie.

630
00:41:59.239 --> 00:42:02.079
Kind of. It's it's it's kind of over between like

631
00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:04.079
hy Prairie and the Huckleberry Flats.

632
00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:06.559
Okay, gotcha.

633
00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:09.239
It's it's just a ruin of an old logging railroad trestle.

634
00:42:09.239 --> 00:42:11.840
It's fall it's they built it in like the nineteen

635
00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:14.320
twenties and it fell down like thirty years ago. It's

636
00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:16.400
just I like to go find weird like that in

637
00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:21.960
the woods, which Bobby of mine, I guess. But I've

638
00:42:22.000 --> 00:42:30.320
noticed I've noticed in the silence and usually some kind

639
00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:34.199
of infrastructure, they tend to go hand in hand. I mean,

640
00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:36.159
this is this is kind of my own personal theory,

641
00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:41.880
but anywhere that there's like disturbed earth mines, caves, old

642
00:42:41.920 --> 00:42:45.400
logging and stuff, it seems most prevalent there because I've

643
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:47.800
been I've been to a lot of different mining areas

644
00:42:48.800 --> 00:42:52.920
all over Oregon, and believe it or not, there was well,

645
00:42:53.039 --> 00:42:57.320
there was some prospecting up kind of by Oak Ridge

646
00:42:58.159 --> 00:43:01.679
and those areas. It's just it's it's strange. It's a

647
00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:09.320
strange vibe and southern Oregon too. I think what was

648
00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:11.599
that guy's name you interviewed, the delivery guy. I think

649
00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:12.440
his name is Arturo.

650
00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:18.400
Yeah, Ardurou is really cool, So he's a cool dude.

651
00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:22.360
Oh yeah, that's that was quite a story. That that

652
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:24.719
second story when he was talking about going up by

653
00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:28.719
the old miners and stuff, that that sounds like a

654
00:43:28.760 --> 00:43:30.599
movie plot to me, and that that that was the

655
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:32.360
one I think that really convinced me to come and

656
00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:37.079
talk to you about things really, because I'm ninety percent

657
00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:39.239
sure I know where that area is, and I would

658
00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:43.320
totally believe it because there's there's some there's a mining

659
00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:46.880
district around where he was talking about. You go up

660
00:43:46.920 --> 00:43:49.679
there and you'll see these trail like cell phone trail

661
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:54.159
cameras and signs that say private road looters will be shot,

662
00:43:54.280 --> 00:44:00.599
stuff like that, and like motion detectors done up there.

663
00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:03.440
There is a motion detector hidden in some rocks by tree,

664
00:44:05.159 --> 00:44:07.760
and up the road you could see a RV with

665
00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:14.159
the blue tarp on it. So it's that's strange up

666
00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:16.400
there too, But I think that's a different flavor. Is strange.

667
00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:19.360
But a lot of the some of the people that

668
00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:22.519
you've had on I recognize the areas that they're talking about,

669
00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:24.280
and I can totally see it. I don't remember the

670
00:44:24.280 --> 00:44:26.840
guy's name, but he said him and his dad went

671
00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:31.119
to a quarry south of oak Ridge that had a

672
00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:34.800
big quartzman in it. M I know I know about

673
00:44:34.840 --> 00:44:40.159
where that is. And that's crazy. It's it's just it's

674
00:44:40.199 --> 00:44:44.079
baffling to me that these people are telling the stories

675
00:44:44.079 --> 00:44:48.559
of places I've been to, and it's it's it's strange.

676
00:44:48.559 --> 00:44:51.800
It's kind of like piece is kind of moving together

677
00:44:51.920 --> 00:44:54.280
and it's oddly coincidental.

678
00:44:56.679 --> 00:45:01.159
It is very weird how you can talk to people.

679
00:45:01.199 --> 00:45:04.280
It doesn't matter if they're really young or especially in

680
00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:06.119
that area, it doesn't matter if they're really young or

681
00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:10.519
really old. There's the common threat is bigfoot in all

682
00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:13.199
the stories, and it just keeps coming through time.

683
00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:17.159
My experiences aren't like I said, They're not like or

684
00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:19.679
it's shattering remarkable. You know, I don't have anything on

685
00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:23.719
video or any kind of wild theories or something. It's

686
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:29.719
just I think, as people put it, high strangeness, I.

687
00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:35.760
Guess, oh absolutely. And the thing is is like, if

688
00:45:35.800 --> 00:45:38.119
you spend any amount of time out there, you're going

689
00:45:38.199 --> 00:45:41.440
to find out pretty quick that it's not just Bigfoot.

690
00:45:41.719 --> 00:45:46.719
There's definitely more to it in that whole region out

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there where there's other stuff going on. I mean, the

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people Steve was telling me that there's definitely some haunted

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places in the town. So you know, it's not just

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not just big there's a lot of weird stuff. But

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I mean, you know, anything that you hear I found

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is valuable because it helps flesh out the story a

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little bit and helps you connect dots on things down

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the road. So I appreciate you coming on and spending

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some time and sharing what you've experienced over the years

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in some places that we've already talked about. It's been

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