Jan. 29, 2025

Searching the Gifford Pinchot for Sasquatch | Washington

Join us as we talk with Steve, a Bigfoot researcher from Vancouver, Washington, who shares his intriguing experiences in the Gifford Pinchot and Mount St. Helens areas. Steve recounts eerie encounters, including rock clacking, rancid smells, and...

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Season 1

Join us as we talk with Steve, a Bigfoot researcher from Vancouver, Washington, who shares his intriguing experiences in the Gifford Pinchot and Mount St. Helens areas. Steve recounts eerie encounters, including rock clacking, rancid smells, and strange sounds that hint at the presence of Sasquatch. He discusses his efforts in gifting to establish a non-threatening presence and his collaboration with the Sweet Home Sasquatch Research Group. From setting up trail cams to having limbs thrown near his camp, Steve’s stories offer a breathtaking glimpse into the mysterious world of Bigfoot research.

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Sweet Home, Oregon FB group - https://www.facebook.com/groups/1769549100224800


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Three to one.

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All right, Bigfoot Society. I've got the privilege of talking

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to Steve today. Steve's an individual from Vancouver, Washington. He's

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a bigfoot researcher out there, and I'm a big fan

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of Steve's YouTube channel, Steve Searches. I kind of ran

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into it. I believe in one of the Bigfoot Men.

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Any Bigfoot Facebook groups, I'm in Sweet Home one. But Steve,

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it's a privilege to have you on the show today.

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How's it going man.

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Good, thank you, thank you for having me on.

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You know, your channel is so awesome because you can

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go into that Gifford, Pinchot, Mount Saint Helen's area.

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Correct, Yes, yeah, it's I mean I've I go to

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a few places, other places here and there, but that's

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as a general rule, that's pretty much where I operate

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is on the south side of Mount Saint Helen's in

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the Gifford Bencho. That's awesome.

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You know, Steve, Before we get headed too far, do

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you mind sharing with the listeners what it was that

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first got you into the Bigfoot subject and research to

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begin with.

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Oh yeah, sure, Well, I think probably, like a lot

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of researchers, that was probably something started when I was

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a kid. There was a there was a movie that

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that had come out when I was in grade school.

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It was called The Legend of Boggie Creek, and I

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think that kind of got a lot of a lot

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of people started. But then of course over the years

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it was really just sort of like it just really

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I guess more of an interest and it really really

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became a serious subject to me, just maybe in this

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last few years involved in missing persons, helping with missing

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persons cases, back in about twenty ten, and I also

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I'm also a drafter by trade. In my first few

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years as a young drafter, I was a map maker,

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and that was sort of a skill that I had

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that later on led me into helping out with missing persons.

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Well then, I guess it was. It must have been

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about twenty twelve or so. I was with a group

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and somebody had said, oh, we should we should get

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a we should get one of those drones, and I

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kind of thought about that for a while, and a

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few years ago I had I had started purchasing drones

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because I started using those in in map making. Well anyhow, anyhow,

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going back to about it must have been about two

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thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, I had an

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experience up well, up in Mount Saint An. It's up

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by eight Cave where I was hig on the trail

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and there's a there's a trail that goes from the

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main entrance to to what there's there's a smaller entrance

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which is actually at that at the very end of

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Epe Cave, which course is not actually a cave, it's

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a lava tube. And it was on that trail. It

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must have been it must have been about April. About

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March or April, the snow is just clearing out up there,

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and and it was I found this. It was it

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wasn't a clear cut it was just sort of like

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this big open area where there was some bunch of

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lava rock and stuff. It's people that have been on

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the trail and where it's at. And I was standing

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out there one time, and it must have been about

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maybe seven eight in the morning, and and I had

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been up there a lot of times, and it was

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there was something really different about it, and it was

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that there was no sound up there. I was just

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standing there and all of the forest creatures just went quiet.

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So I'm standing there and I was by myself, and

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I thought, wow, you know, this is pretty weird. And

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I smelt something really kind of rancid, and you know, sometimes,

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you know, people talk about how they get that feeling

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they've been being that they're being watched, and this was

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really that time. And I just kept thinking, there's there's

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something behind that tree line. And I never really took

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the sasquatch stuff that seriously before up until that moment,

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So that kind of stuck with me for a few years,

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and I started going back up there to see if

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I could figure out what that what that was and

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then yeah, then then it must have been about maybe

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four years ago, three or four years ago somebody had

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I had been contacted by some local researches and they

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had they had seen some of my maps and they

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had asked if I would go and drone some areas

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to help them look for bigfoot. It was there was

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a small bigfoot group that was out of Woodland, and

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so I said, yeah, sure, and so I kind of

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and I started getting involved with that. Then I just

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started going out then on my own. So I started

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I started Steve Searches about a year ago, and that

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was that was something that I wanted to Originally I

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put it together for to kind of keep track and

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in showcase some of the work that I was doing

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with miss with missing persons cases. In fact, there was

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a case that I was working in Boise a couple

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of years ago, and I had put this blog together

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to kind of to keep track of all of the

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mapping and stuff that we were doing on that, and

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it just it's sort of Steve Searches sort of sort

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of just became more every bigfoot research project and it's

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just kind of gone from there. You know. It was

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about I think it was last spring of last year.

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Then I had gotten in contact with Michelle Att with

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the Sweet Home, the Sweet Home Sasquatch Research Group in

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her group, and I started we began collaborating last spring.

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So we've had quite a few outings, not only down

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in their area, but up in Mount Saint Helens.

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Listeners are where Sweet Home is going to be down

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the Lammett National Forest down in Oregon. So you guys

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were going back and forth between the two areas.

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It sounds like, yeah, well I went down there. I

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went down there for a few of the functions that

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they had for the group. In fact, we had I

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think the first function that we had was a camp

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out with a bunch of us down there. That was

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like that was like back in April. But then since then,

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they they've had members that have come up here and

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we've gone out, We've gone on outings in the in

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the area where that I work. It's sort of a

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collaboration that that we started. But yeah, we've had we've

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had a couple of experiences up there through through muster.

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Been in about June, June and July we've heard things

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like rock clacking, rocks clacking early in the mornings. And

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I at one time had a creature that came into

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my camp and hung around my cant probably for beginning,

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must have been about early evening on into well into

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the morning the next day. And that that ended up

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with with it throwing limbs and stuff across the road

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right down from my camp. That was one experience that

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we had up there. But yeah, I mean that's that's

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pretty much the gist of it.

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Oh wow, So that that encounter happened in Gifford Pinchot then.

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Yes, yeah, in fact it was. I have a main

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camp that that said, I frequent. I call it the

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main camp because it's when I go to the most.

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It's up in sort of an area just above eight Cave.

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It's right about between that area between eight Cave and

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eight Valley is a lot of I spent a lot

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of time up there last year. I probably will again

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this next year, especially because of that encounter.

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So the time that you had something walking around your campsite,

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how how close do you think they were getting to

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your tent at that time?

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Oh? It came right up to the tent really, Yeah, Yeah,

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it was pretty weird. It was must have been on

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must have been on a Friday. I had gone up there,

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and I had spent the afternoon setting up. I had

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set some trail cans up, and then I think I

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must have knocked off it about it must have been

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six thirty seven that night, and I went, I said,

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I set camp up. And it was after i'd set

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the camp up, I was sitting and working on some

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videos and stuff, and I heard what sounded like a

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tree fall, and I thought, oh, that's kind of weird.

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And you know, how often are you out in the

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woods and just all of a sudden the tree falls.

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And really I didn't really think too much of it.

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In fact, I was I had been texting Michelle with

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the Sweet Home group. I'd been texting her some photos

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of the camp and stuff, and I had text her

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and my toy. Yeah, that's kind of some kind of

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weird that a tree foul, Or at least that's what

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I said. It sounded like it came. See that camp

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has sort of like a little little road that goes

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into it. It's not on the road, but you can

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see down the road probably one hundred yards, and that's

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where it sounded like it came from I'm standing out

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fast forward the clock I woke up about. I think

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it was must have been about one thirty in the morning,

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which is pretty common for me and I and I

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don't know what woke me up, but I thought, well, hackened, Well,

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I'm up as working some video that we took the

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laptop and working videos and stuff, and so it must

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have been about an hour later, it was about two thirty.

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I heard something walking around in my camp and it

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was kind of peculiar because the ground in this camp

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it's sort of it's it's kind of flat, and it's

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packed and it always has so I was covered with

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needles and leaves and stuff from the fallout. And but

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it didn't sound like you know, when you spend enough

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time out in the woods and you hear things walking around,

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it sound like something that had This is what caught

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me word about it was was it didn't sound like

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something that had hooks. It just sounded like somebody barefoot

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walking around because you could just barely hear, you know,

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like a like a footpad coming onto the ground. And

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I thought, well, that's okay. So then I just kind

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of kind of sat there and I thought, well, listen

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to it for a little bit and see what it does.

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And it would it would take a few steps, and

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it would stop, and it would take a few steps

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and stop. And then I had to thinking. And you know,

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I didn't think really at first about it being a sasquatch.

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I was thinking more in the minds of because I

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usually backed my truck up to the camp and I

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put my tailgate down. I use that for a camp table,

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and I have these plastic tubs that I usually keep

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on my food in and I remember I left the

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tailgate down, and I thought, well, maybe it might be

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a deer out there, a porcupine or something getting into

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and then I thought, well, I probably should run it off,

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something about running it off. And then I hear this

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kind of crackling noise, and it dawned on me that

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the crackling noise that I was hearing it was the

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cheap tarp that I always put my tent on to

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protect the bottom of it. So whatever it was was

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stepping right on that few inches of tarp that was

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sticking out, and I thought, oh, wow, it's right up

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to the tent. So I just sat there and listened

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to it for maybe fifteen twenty seconds then, so then

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I made that and I thought at that time, I

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was still thinking maybe it might have been raccoon or something.

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But whatever it was was had to been pretty heavy

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to be stepping and making that crackling noise. So I

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made a hissing sound like you know, like you know,

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like when you shoe off a cat. And then it

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was quiet, and then I yelled at it. I yelled

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a get and then it just stayed quiet. So I

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sat there for a little while and then I just

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looked out there and there was nothing out there. So

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whatever it was, whatever was left. So that was about

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by that time, it was probably about three o'clock anyhow,

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So fast forward the clock again to about it must

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have been about maybe six thirty six forty five, and

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I had woke up, and I thought I decided that

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I was just going to go ahead and pack up camp.

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Big for a society who will be right back after

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these messages.

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Anyhow, I was pulling out anyhow that day, but I

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wanted to check those trail camps for those trail cams

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were really quick on my way out. So I was here,

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I was packing my camp and I kept hearing what

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sounded like like limbs snapping, like something breaking limbs, and

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I kept looking down the road because it was coming

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from that same spot that it was coming from, the

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same spot where I thought I heard the tree fall.

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By this time, it was starting to get kind of weird,

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and so I just kept packing up the camp. And

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then I heard it again. And then right about the

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time I had everything in the back, I heard it

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a third time. This time I had walked around the

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truck and I was standing there and I was looking

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down the road where that where that sound was coming from,

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and there was a big limb went flying across the

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road down there, and it was probably, yeah, it was

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probably maybe a hundred yards down. I went back there,

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Actually I went back there. It must have been that

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next weekend. I went back there with the video camera

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and I did sort of a step by step. But

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I haven't finished put that video out yet, but I

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probably will do that here this next week or two.

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So I see this limb go flying across the across

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the road, and of course, obviously, I mean, what kind

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of an animal throw breaks limbs and throws them across

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the road. So I decided, well, maybe that was going

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to be a good time to get out of there,

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because I was packed up anyhow. So I got my

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truck and then I just kind of creeped down the

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road and I was actually kind of I was kind

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of I was kind of nervous about it because as

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I was going down the road, I mean, this this

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little road, there's only one way in, one way out,

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and that's the road. So I was half expecting to

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get you know, like a long log or a limb

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or something like that on the trock. I had my

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GoPro going at the same time, but then nothing happened.

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So I just I got out, got to the end

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of the road that went up the road to this

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uh place where this clear cut was where I had

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set these game cams up, and I got out, and

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I thought, well, check these game cams quick, and I

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was all the all the all the time, I was

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still looking sort of like over my shoulder back to

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where I'd just come from. And as I was walking

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out to check those game cams, I could still hear

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it breaking limbs, but it was staying right inside of

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the tree line, but it was following where I was going.

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So I just decided that I'm gonna I'm gonna wrap

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this one up. So that was yeah, that was in

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there must have been a mountain mid July.

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Oh wow, so justice just this summer, just a few

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months ago.

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Oh man?

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Yeah, did you have any time to it sounded like

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you you started to pack up camp pretty quick. Did

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you have any time to look around and see if

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there were any tracks or anything weird like that inside camp?

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Well, I went up there, of course, I went up there.

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It must have been about five days later. But I

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go up there all the time, especially in the summer.

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I'm up there probably twice a week, at least least

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every weekend. And I had gone up there. But see,

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it's kind of the way I need to put that

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video out because it explains a little bit better. But

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when when you and you know a lot of these

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places in the different pinch Old when you go out

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you're walking around in the woods in there, you know

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you're you're walking on layers and layers and layers of

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of needles and such. So you don't really get much

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for prints in most of these places there. I mean,

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things can be walking around. I mean unless it's you know,

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you can you can find prints a lot more a

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lot easier of things right there. Now you know, of

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course obviously because they have hooks, but you know, something

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with flat feet won't make much for prints up there.

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But so I went back and I've come through that

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area where the limbs were being thrown around, and of

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course up there you can't there's there's so many limbs

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laying around back there you can tell one from another.

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But there were definitely freshly snapped limbs there in that area.

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But that was the same That was the same area.

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In fact, that was the same campsite that only a

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few weeks early here Michelle from the I mean a

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couple of the other members from the Sweet Home Group.

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That's that was that same camp spot where we heard

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the rocks clacking. That was pretty weird too. It was

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it was Michelle and Sarah and Derek from from the

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Sweet Home Group. They had gone up there, and it

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was it was the morning after the first night up there.

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And see that that camp is only a couple hundred

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yards from there's a creek down there. It's kind of

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down the hill from where the camp is. Michelle and

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I had it must have been about six in the

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morning and we were up and we were just sitting

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there bs and I was making coffee. We kept hearing

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these rocks clacking, and she was telling me this this

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funny story, and I don't remember what it was about,

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but this went on for probably ten minutes, and then

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I asked her, you know, do you hear the do

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you have rocks clicking together? And she's like, yeah, yeah.

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So we got up and so we sat there and

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we listened to it for a minute or two, and

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then we kept hearing it, kept hearing it, and this

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was coming from the creek area. And this cricket course is,

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like I said, it's downhill, so it's it's not within

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line of sight, and plus, you know, you get noise

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from the water moving, so these rocks clacking together would

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have had to have been some pretty big rocks for

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us to hear it like that. So we got up

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and we walked over and right about the time we

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got to the top of the hill to where you

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could you could kind of start to look down and

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see the creek, it stopped. And we hung around there

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for probably twenty minutes, walked up and down the trail there,

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but it never shut up again. So yeah, the as

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I understand it, the only the only animal that really

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clasp X rocks together like that are I think they're

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a ranking at least according to what but I find online.

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But yeah, and that that was the same that was

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same camp, same campsite.

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That's so extremely interesting that you would say that around

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about the Orangutans, because more than a few of the

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accounts that I take there, it's usually described with some

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features like in Orangutan. Have you ever heard anything like

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that up up where you're at in the Pacific Northwest

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where what people are seeing is kind of has features

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like in Orangutan? Or is it something else completely different?

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Well, I have heard, I have heard a lot of

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there's I've heard a lot of people that have been

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up around here that have said the same thing. They

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heard rocks clacking, So that that seems to be pretty

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common for this for this area, seems to be pretty

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common for Pinch, for the different pincho Is rocks clacking

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other areas. I'm not really sure, But the kind of

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the gist that I get is I think that I'm

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just kind of going out on the land because I

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don't really know. But but it seems to me that

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different areas that the populations in different areas almost have

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maybe their own culture or they have kind of similar

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habits because I've known you know, when you see these

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other groups that are and you know, like on the

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East Coast and the Midwest, and they do a lot

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of things like gifting stations and stuff, and people people

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are saying that they like live with them and make

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friends with them stuff. And then but the most Helen's

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brand of Sasquatch, they seem to be kind of island.

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I mean there there, there's these you know, it's like

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the stories of those gold miners that were up there

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in the valley that got ran out of the cabin

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was it? I think it was back in the thirties,

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And it seems like a lot of the the lot

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of the interactions and them in around a different pincho.

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They seem like a squad ship there. They don't really

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seem to be big fans of humans.

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So that's interesting. You're referring to the Ape Canyon attack

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of nineteen twenty four, right, yeah, right, perfect, Yeah, about

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I mean one hundred years, Well, no, we're past one

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hundred years now, because it's generally one hundred and one years, it's.

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One years, yeah, yeah, yeah, And of course as the

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crow Flies where where I operating, where it's where my

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main camp is as the crow Flies, it's like maybe

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four miles five miles from there.

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Oh that's interesting, Okay, wow.

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So yeah, I mean that's it's all in that. It's

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all in that that area.

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Now, are there any other things that you've heard about

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Gifford Pinchot that would make you think that potentially the

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Sasquatch that are in this area are violent besides the

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Ape Canyon account?

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Well, you know, I don't, I don't. I think for

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the most part when I'm when I comes to mind

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is is really it's just a lot of the scuttle

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but that you see on social media and when I

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when I share these accounts on say like like when

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I share on Facebook, or the comments sometimes that I

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get on on on YouTube I get, I seem to

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get a lot of people that say, yeah, you know, yeah,

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we we had we were camped in such and such

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an eighty five or ninety one or whenever, and they

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had something similar happened with you know, limbs of breaking

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and stuff like that. So that's just really kind of

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the gist that I get of it.

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It's interesting, is there an area within the National Forest,

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like a area known for within bigfoot research that you

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just won't really go to because of the history that's

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associated with it.

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Well some of it. I don't know if I don't

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know if there's really any place that I that I

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wouldn't go, but some of it is less accessible, of course,

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I mean there there are some there are some places

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that that I really don't go. But it's not necessarily

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because of the because of the Sasquatch and there it

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would be because of the because of the terrain or

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the weather, things of that nature. But yeah, I mean there, there,

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there are I have encountered a few people that have

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said that they used to hunt up there, but that

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they won't go up there now. In fact, somebody was

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just commenting on a video I put out a couple

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of days ago and about about the area that I

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was up and give up in and give Giford Pinchell

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last weekend, and the one guy was saying that he

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hunted up in there for forty years and he had

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some and he just called it an interaction. But he

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said after the interaction said he won't go back there.

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So so so yeah, yeah, I don't know, I mean

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you know when when I had that, when I had

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that experience back in back in July with with the

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branches or the limbs being thrown, I didn't I went

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back there, but I didn't camp again back there. I

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didn't camp again. And then of course pretty of course

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it was the part of that was because then hunt

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and season came around the corner, and the hunters take

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take to take up the camping spots up there. But

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but yeah, yeah, so there there's every kind of a

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few people that would say that then they won't go

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back there.

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Absolutely. I mean, it's such an interesting area because you have,

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you know, the area where you're focused on, but then

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00:28:29.799 --> 00:28:32.119
you can go even further north, you can go to

461
00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:36.519
you know, I believe you'd consider Packwood as a part

462
00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:40.799
of that potentially maybe south of Randall. That whole area

463
00:28:40.839 --> 00:28:43.720
seems to be pretty wild too. But I think that's

464
00:28:43.799 --> 00:28:46.359
that's a little bit out of your research area, right.

465
00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:51.720
Yeah, Well, I go up there. I go up there

466
00:28:51.960 --> 00:28:58.559
maybe a few times to the summer, but I haven't

467
00:28:58.559 --> 00:29:01.160
really researched too much of there because the whole the

468
00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:05.759
whole idea behind where I was researching one area was

469
00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:09.400
it was the the project that I that I started

470
00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:12.519
last year. Is what what I was doing was is

471
00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:14.960
I was setting up gifting stations back and there. I

472
00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:18.200
was setting up just food stations with the game cams.

473
00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:22.920
And what what I was trying to do really is

474
00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:25.039
is I was trying to get them used to me

475
00:29:25.160 --> 00:29:28.000
being up there. You know. Put I would put a

476
00:29:28.039 --> 00:29:31.799
peanut butter around, I'd put apples out, and I wanted

477
00:29:32.200 --> 00:29:35.240
them to get sort of get used to my scent

478
00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:39.079
up there and then and so they would just get

479
00:29:39.200 --> 00:29:42.920
I was trying to get sort of condition them to

480
00:29:43.039 --> 00:29:46.640
correlate me with food or you know, just so they

481
00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:54.480
correlate me with being a friendly I guess. And so

482
00:29:54.599 --> 00:29:57.799
that was why I decided to stay with that same area.

483
00:29:58.839 --> 00:30:01.279
That was really that was really the project that I

484
00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:05.480
was involved with last year doing that. But yeah, those

485
00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:08.480
other those other areas where you go up over Windy

486
00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:11.680
Ridge and places like that, there's a lot of squashing

487
00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:15.359
to do up there. I mean, I might venture up

488
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:18.519
there maybe a little bit more this year, a little higher.

489
00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:21.960
Out Big for Society will be right back after these messages,

490
00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:45.000
so you were so you're saying the gifting area, that

491
00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:47.240
area where you had something walk around your tent. You

492
00:30:47.240 --> 00:30:52.319
were also doing a gifting area at that campsite too, Yeah.

493
00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:54.440
That was well. I didn't I wasn't really doing it

494
00:30:54.480 --> 00:30:57.519
at the site because I didn't I didn't want to

495
00:30:57.559 --> 00:31:00.319
camp where I was gifting. I wanted to kind of

496
00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:03.599
keep the two separate because I was afraid if I

497
00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:06.039
was camped there, they might not want to come around.

498
00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:09.400
So what I was I had a couple of different

499
00:31:09.440 --> 00:31:13.000
places down the road from there. There was a there's

500
00:31:13.000 --> 00:31:16.039
a big clear cut that's nearby, and I was gifting

501
00:31:16.079 --> 00:31:19.039
in there. And then there's another spot down the road

502
00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:21.000
to where it's heavily wooded and I was gifting in

503
00:31:21.079 --> 00:31:24.799
there as well. Yeah. I was kind of weird too

504
00:31:24.920 --> 00:31:30.319
because when I first started it, when I first started

505
00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:33.799
the gifting, and it was also when I first started

506
00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:37.200
using game cams, and I have a video that I

507
00:31:37.359 --> 00:31:39.559
just put out a couple of days ago, and I

508
00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:42.720
kind of told this story really quick. But there was

509
00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:47.240
an area that it was nice. It was nice and open,

510
00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:49.400
so I could set the game can up because the

511
00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:51.920
game cams I use are pretty sensitive, so if there's

512
00:31:52.039 --> 00:31:56.119
grass or there's limbs moving things like that, it'll just

513
00:31:56.160 --> 00:31:58.880
keep setting them off. So you know sometimes I'll go

514
00:31:58.920 --> 00:32:00.880
on up pull a card in the four hundred frames

515
00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:02.920
in there, and there's nothing in there. It's because of

516
00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:05.599
the because things moving well. Anyhow, I found a really

517
00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:09.559
nice spot. It was nice and open and it was

518
00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:15.440
probably fifty sixty feet and I set I took a

519
00:32:15.480 --> 00:32:19.519
bag of one of the Windco bags of Gala apples

520
00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:22.799
of the three pound bag, and I draw a peanut

521
00:32:22.839 --> 00:32:25.000
butter and I set them all up in this area.

522
00:32:25.079 --> 00:32:27.119
And I went back about four or five days later,

523
00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:30.880
and of course the food was gone, but I never

524
00:32:30.880 --> 00:32:34.759
got a single hit on that camera. I mean there's

525
00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:37.359
there was no apples left, there's no peanut butter left,

526
00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:40.359
and they were well, I mean everything was well within

527
00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:45.039
range of that camera, and it was just like something

528
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:47.000
came in and got the food and the camera had

529
00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:50.640
the camera didn't even see them. I mean, in fact,

530
00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:53.519
there were there were five frames on that card. Two

531
00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:58.319
of them were where my backside, me walking away the

532
00:32:58.359 --> 00:33:01.000
day I set the camera up, and then three of

533
00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:04.480
them were also of me when I was walking in

534
00:33:04.519 --> 00:33:08.720
to pull the card. But other than that, I never

535
00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:13.400
got one had on the camera. That's like maybe that's

536
00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:16.039
like maybe a mile down the road. I guess from

537
00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:17.119
where the main site is.

538
00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:22.640
Was the bag there at all?

539
00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:27.039
No? No, well I didn't leave the bag. I didn't

540
00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:30.680
leave the bag there, Okay, but I left it. I mean,

541
00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:33.799
you know, in those three pound bags of apples you

542
00:33:33.839 --> 00:33:35.880
get from Windko, you get, I mean, there's probably a

543
00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:38.920
dozen apples in there. I put them all different spots.

544
00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:41.440
Same thing with the peanut butter. I took a big

545
00:33:41.519 --> 00:33:43.200
jar of peanut butter down there, and I put like

546
00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:45.720
little piles here and there, probably five or six piles,

547
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:48.680
you know, with the whole jar in this whole area.

548
00:33:48.880 --> 00:33:51.920
You know, it was just like a big buffet. Well

549
00:33:51.960 --> 00:33:56.400
I went back, it was all gone, no hits on

550
00:33:56.440 --> 00:33:56.880
the camera.

551
00:33:57.759 --> 00:34:00.799
That's really interesting. Do you ever go out out in

552
00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:04.319
set up an area like that without game cams?

553
00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:10.760
Oh? Yeah, yeah, there has been. I did. When I

554
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:14.880
first started doing it. I would set these gifting stations

555
00:34:15.000 --> 00:34:17.239
up like that. It's just that you'd go out there

556
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:20.639
and this food would be gone, but there was no

557
00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:26.480
way of telling what was taking the food. So that

558
00:34:26.599 --> 00:34:28.480
was when I that was why I started using the

559
00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:32.119
game cams. Was I wanted to see what was taking

560
00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:34.760
the food, and then of course it was it was

561
00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:37.239
kind of and it was kind of And it's it's

562
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:39.840
not that the cameras don't catch them, because I have

563
00:34:40.039 --> 00:34:44.000
literally I have hundreds and hundreds of of photos on

564
00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:50.079
these cams of things like coyotes taking the kyotes. Do

565
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:53.800
you tend to like apples for some reason? And yeah,

566
00:34:53.840 --> 00:34:57.719
I mean I'll get other animals taking the food that.

567
00:34:57.920 --> 00:34:59.920
Every once in a while, I'll get food that is

568
00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:04.719
the spear. Just this one was weird. Was was really

569
00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:09.360
weird because because of all of the food out there,

570
00:35:09.400 --> 00:35:10.880
I mean, there was not a single frame.

571
00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:14.360
I mean, if I was doing that kind of thing,

572
00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:18.719
I think that would drive me nuts. It would be like, Okay,

573
00:35:19.159 --> 00:35:21.119
give me a track or something. Guys, you know, like

574
00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:22.039
that's wild.

575
00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:29.760
Yeah, yeah, right right, But it's yeah, well it's it's

576
00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:33.599
kind of something that I think when you get a

577
00:35:33.639 --> 00:35:35.760
little bit of practice, maybe you get a little bit

578
00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:39.039
better at it. I'm hoping that, I'm hoping I have

579
00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:42.440
a lot I have higher hopes for this this this

580
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:47.360
year getting things in game cams. But I don't know.

581
00:35:47.400 --> 00:35:51.440
I mean, when when food like that disappears and there's

582
00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:54.159
no hits on the cam, that they must be something

583
00:35:54.280 --> 00:35:57.639
is finding a way around the camp, or at least that's

584
00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:04.159
that's what it seemed. But yeah, we'll see absolutely.

585
00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:09.719
You put out a few videos around actually just after

586
00:36:11.159 --> 00:36:16.320
the unfortunate situation with the two researchers that went out

587
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:19.400
Christmas Eve, which I thought it was is fascinating to

588
00:36:19.480 --> 00:36:24.440
see because you drove up into well, I guess it

589
00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:29.159
was the general area, correct, Yeah, it was.

590
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:31.480
There where where they were where they were at me,

591
00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:35.199
it was there they were they were at I was

592
00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:37.800
actually up there. That seemed to me that they were

593
00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:40.599
up there. That was Christmas Eve. I would have been

594
00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:44.719
I would have been just a few miles west of

595
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:49.159
where they were. But I did that. I put that

596
00:36:49.239 --> 00:36:53.119
video together. But mainly, mainly the reason I put that

597
00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:55.920
video together was because there were a lot of people

598
00:36:56.039 --> 00:36:57.760
that there are a lot of people of course on

599
00:36:57.800 --> 00:37:00.599
social media, there's always a lot of fluff that there.

600
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:03.880
There was a lot of people that didn't seem to

601
00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:09.039
understand how that could happen in that area. And to me,

602
00:37:09.199 --> 00:37:13.480
it's pretty easy to understand, just because I work up there.

603
00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:17.119
I know how I know how easy it is to

604
00:37:17.119 --> 00:37:21.400
get turned around, and I know that that you know,

605
00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:27.119
once you get turned around up there in this time

606
00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:30.079
of year. I mean, it's the party's over. I was

607
00:37:30.119 --> 00:37:32.599
thinking about that too today because I was up there

608
00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:36.920
trads and around. I was up today up above Mary Lake,

609
00:37:36.960 --> 00:37:39.239
and I had gone off and I was on a

610
00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:44.280
trail and and I was maybe five minutes away from

611
00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:48.519
my trock, and I stopped for a second. I thought, Gee,

612
00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:50.679
it was a good thing I was still on the

613
00:37:50.719 --> 00:37:53.599
trail because you can tell where you were, and that's

614
00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:56.880
that's that's really all it takes up there. I mean,

615
00:37:56.960 --> 00:38:00.000
it's un plus it starts, you know, it gets dark

616
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:05.159
market for thirty five o'clock right now. And yeah, So

617
00:38:05.519 --> 00:38:08.440
the reason that I mostly the reason that video is

618
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:11.400
sort of to kind of show people what the terrain

619
00:38:11.559 --> 00:38:14.679
is like up there, because there were people that were

620
00:38:14.719 --> 00:38:17.599
kind of scratching their heads and saying things like, well,

621
00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:22.360
why didn't they just spell a fire this and that. Yeah,

622
00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:24.800
I just I wanted to dispel a lot of those

623
00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:28.840
a lot of things like that kind of show how

624
00:38:28.880 --> 00:38:32.960
easy it is to get messed up up there. But yeah,

625
00:38:33.000 --> 00:38:35.800
so yeah, that was right up there in that area

626
00:38:35.880 --> 00:38:36.519
where they were.

627
00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:41.880
I think it was fascinating how you showed that. When

628
00:38:41.920 --> 00:38:45.840
you're down the valley out there, the weather is completely different.

629
00:38:46.880 --> 00:38:51.199
You drive up there, it changes in just sense.

630
00:38:51.880 --> 00:38:54.079
I even said, there were people that lived right there

631
00:38:54.119 --> 00:38:58.760
in Canis in Washugle that we're saying, well, gee, they

632
00:38:58.760 --> 00:39:01.679
were saying, well, the weather was really mild, and they

633
00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:06.559
could figure out how that could happen. Well, the weather, Yeah, sure,

634
00:39:06.599 --> 00:39:09.360
the weather was mild. If you're in Canvas or in Washugle,

635
00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:12.840
or if you're in Vancouver in the the city's down

636
00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:15.320
down in the in the valley. But at the minute

637
00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:18.440
you go up, you go up in the mountains, it's

638
00:39:18.519 --> 00:39:22.000
it's totally different. It's another world up there. And then

639
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:24.960
you know around here, you know that that that happens

640
00:39:25.079 --> 00:39:30.159
in a mile plus right plus that area they were in,

641
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:33.280
there's a small river that ran through there, so they

642
00:39:33.320 --> 00:39:35.440
would have had at least they would have had at

643
00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:42.920
least one water crossing, and they they I'm figuring that

644
00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:46.599
they may have gotten wet on the water crossing and

645
00:39:47.000 --> 00:39:51.280
once that happens. I mean, even if even if a

646
00:39:51.360 --> 00:39:55.039
person could build a fire, which is I mean, I

647
00:39:55.079 --> 00:39:57.400
can't really say it's impossible to build a fire in

648
00:39:57.440 --> 00:40:03.480
those areas, but it's pretty difficult because you know, it

649
00:40:03.559 --> 00:40:05.679
snows and it rains, and it snows and it rains

650
00:40:05.719 --> 00:40:08.639
up there, and everything's wet. There's there's not really things

651
00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:11.480
up there, especially right in that area. There's not really

652
00:40:11.519 --> 00:40:14.639
things up there to make fires wet. And of course,

653
00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:18.000
you know most people, you know, when they're out in

654
00:40:18.039 --> 00:40:21.119
about and they're out hanking trails and stuff. By the

655
00:40:21.159 --> 00:40:25.239
time by the time it dawns on them that they're

656
00:40:25.239 --> 00:40:30.480
in trouble, well, they're they're by that time, they're already

657
00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:33.440
hypothermia is already setting in, you know what I mean,

658
00:40:33.519 --> 00:40:37.519
they're already their hands or numb, and and I don't know,

659
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:40.360
I suppose maybe a person like a person could just

660
00:40:40.480 --> 00:40:42.960
drive up there and maybe build a fire in three

661
00:40:43.079 --> 00:40:45.280
four hours or something like that, whatever it would take

662
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:49.119
to do, which seems pretty difficult. I don't think that's

663
00:40:49.119 --> 00:40:51.760
somebody that by that time, by the time they were

664
00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:54.280
already suffering and figured out that they were in trouble,

665
00:40:54.360 --> 00:40:56.119
they I don't think they would be able to do

666
00:40:56.599 --> 00:40:58.880
something like that. And of course, you know, once it

667
00:40:58.920 --> 00:41:06.800
gets dark, mhm, that's it's it's it's over then. So

668
00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:11.119
I'm I'm sure that's what I'm sure that's what happened.

669
00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:17.840
And it's more than plausible. It's for me, it's more

670
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:18.599
than plausible.

671
00:41:18.719 --> 00:41:22.800
Are there things that you you make sure are on

672
00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:25.480
your person or in your bag when you go out

673
00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:29.239
to places like that in that type of weather situation.

674
00:41:32.039 --> 00:41:38.000
Yeah, Well, one thing that I do is I tend

675
00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:42.000
to operate with a pretty wide margin of safety. And

676
00:41:42.840 --> 00:41:46.400
what I mean by that is is say, if I'm

677
00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:51.880
out hiking, you know, once once things you know, it's

678
00:41:51.880 --> 00:41:54.119
a little bit different animal from from when it's in

679
00:41:54.199 --> 00:41:57.480
the if it's July or August or something like that,

680
00:41:57.840 --> 00:41:59.719
if you get turned around, you know, you can you

681
00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:03.119
can usually stand stay in the night up there or something.

682
00:42:03.199 --> 00:42:08.119
But that's that's that's really that's totally different in the

683
00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:15.239
winter time. So in the wintertime, generally I try to

684
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:18.360
stay within line the sight of where my vehicle is.

685
00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:23.719
But another thing is that since I'm since I make maps,

686
00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:30.480
I am fairly decent and navigating, so I usually will

687
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:34.960
have I always will have my Army issue compass with me,

688
00:42:36.119 --> 00:42:38.639
but I have I usually use I have a little

689
00:42:38.679 --> 00:42:43.679
garment e tracks that I normally will will take with me,

690
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:48.079
and it's that's a pretty good tool. But yeah, generally

691
00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:52.199
I just make sure that if there's a trail or

692
00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:56.719
something up there. I'll stick with the trail because if

693
00:42:56.760 --> 00:42:59.639
you you know, once you step off of the trail,

694
00:42:59.719 --> 00:43:04.159
you don't have a trail anymore. It's it's so easy

695
00:43:04.199 --> 00:43:07.639
to get turned around up there because you know, when

696
00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:10.960
you go up in there, there's like this constant fog

697
00:43:11.039 --> 00:43:14.320
that sets in, and it's it's there all winter. It

698
00:43:14.400 --> 00:43:18.920
almost never left, and so when you're up there, you

699
00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:21.360
can't see the sun. There's there's no way to get

700
00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:23.559
a bearing up there. So I mean, the very minute

701
00:43:23.559 --> 00:43:25.599
you get turned around up there, it's pretty much over,

702
00:43:25.679 --> 00:43:30.920
you're pretty much screwed. But I usually take I usually

703
00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:34.360
at least have a small pack that I'll I'll put

704
00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:36.480
some water in there and keep my compasses. And of

705
00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:40.320
course it's I do that because I put that I

706
00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:42.679
keep things like the GoPro on extra batteries in it

707
00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:46.840
and stuff like that. But also one good good thing

708
00:43:46.920 --> 00:43:50.280
to take is I still have my old army issue

709
00:43:50.599 --> 00:43:55.000
rain poncho and those those are pretty good because they're

710
00:43:55.039 --> 00:43:57.639
big and they have gramets and you can you can

711
00:43:58.079 --> 00:44:00.000
make a little tint out of it and stuff like that.

712
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:03.960
I need be that. Yeah, I think probably the most

713
00:44:03.960 --> 00:44:08.320
important there the probably The most used tool that that

714
00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:10.679
I use when I go up there is a rain jacket.

715
00:44:10.719 --> 00:44:13.280
I think that's great stuff to have in your your

716
00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:16.199
bag for shirt. The garment thing you called out is

717
00:44:16.199 --> 00:44:19.840
that like a personal locator beacon type thing.

718
00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:24.480
Well, it's those are actually what you're talking about. Those.

719
00:44:24.599 --> 00:44:27.840
I've never had one of those, but I would definitely

720
00:44:27.880 --> 00:44:29.960
recommend one of those. In fact, I'm going to get

721
00:44:29.960 --> 00:44:34.880
one myself. I should have gotten one before. But the

722
00:44:34.960 --> 00:44:37.519
garment that I'm talking about is the garment e tracts.

723
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:40.320
It's sort of like it's like a GPS for backpackers.

724
00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:44.159
Got it and there's they're small, they're there, they'll fit

725
00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:47.039
right in the palm of your hand, and they'll you

726
00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:48.880
can get clips for them. You can clip them like

727
00:44:48.920 --> 00:44:52.519
on your shirt. I always keep mind clipped on just

728
00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:55.480
on the shoulder step strap on my pack or my

729
00:44:55.599 --> 00:44:59.519
d pack. But to see the thing is is a

730
00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:02.400
lot of those places up there in Gifford Pincho there's

731
00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:06.880
no self service up there, so if you're in trouble,

732
00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:09.679
you can't call anybody. And that's that's part that's that's

733
00:45:09.719 --> 00:45:15.960
another problem that those two hikers had up there. The

734
00:45:14.920 --> 00:45:20.880
two guys up there on Christmas. Christmas Eve was there's

735
00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:23.480
no self service up there, so they can call anybody

736
00:45:23.519 --> 00:45:27.519
when they got turned around they got into trouble. But

737
00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:30.519
those beacons, that what you talk about, I'm not even

738
00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:33.280
sure what they're called off hand, but I've had several

739
00:45:33.280 --> 00:45:34.960
people tell me, yeah, you should get one of those,

740
00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:37.239
and I think that would be a good idea to

741
00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:40.000
get because those those go through the satellites.

742
00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:43.280
Big for society, who will be right back after these messages.

743
00:45:59.239 --> 00:46:04.800
So it wasn't contact satellite. Sure, Yeah, I've.

744
00:46:04.639 --> 00:46:09.480
Heard a lot a lot of other researchers recommend people

745
00:46:09.559 --> 00:46:11.199
check them out, so I would say yeah. I mean,

746
00:46:11.199 --> 00:46:13.920
if I was out there, I definitely would be all

747
00:46:13.960 --> 00:46:16.840
about that. I do want to say our thoughts are

748
00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:23.639
with the families of the two researchers that did pass away.

749
00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:29.000
It's very, very tough situation. Even though we don't know

750
00:46:29.320 --> 00:46:33.039
who they are, still remains that two people did pass away,

751
00:46:33.239 --> 00:46:36.480
and our thoughts are with those families. You talked about

752
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:42.760
an Army issued compass. Has there ever been any places

753
00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:45.599
that you're out in the forest and you've been looking

754
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:48.280
at your compass and you've noticed that maybe it starts

755
00:46:48.280 --> 00:46:52.960
acting weird or it starts just spinning around in circles.

756
00:46:55.000 --> 00:46:59.159
Yeah, not really anywheres around here. I've had that happen.

757
00:46:59.280 --> 00:47:02.840
I've had it. I've had it happen in Iraq. I've

758
00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:07.440
had it happen in the desert in place like Saudi Arabia.

759
00:47:08.840 --> 00:47:12.360
Oh wow. I have had some some areas where that

760
00:47:14.559 --> 00:47:16.920
you'd be going one way, You'd be going one way

761
00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:19.360
and then it would change, it would switch. Yeah, but

762
00:47:19.440 --> 00:47:22.679
I have I haven't really had that here too much.

763
00:47:23.920 --> 00:47:28.360
But at the same time, I don't really use it

764
00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:33.039
much around up here, so I just keep it with

765
00:47:33.079 --> 00:47:36.159
me in case the garment craps out, which pretty much

766
00:47:36.199 --> 00:47:39.360
never happens because I always keep spare batteries and things

767
00:47:39.400 --> 00:47:45.159
like that. Sure, but I would. I would expect for something, though.

768
00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:48.079
I mean I if it happened, especially Mount Saint Helens

769
00:47:48.159 --> 00:47:50.719
or in the different INChO for that matter, I would.

770
00:47:51.159 --> 00:47:53.239
I would not be surprised if that were to happen,

771
00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:55.400
because I swear every time I go up there, something

772
00:47:55.440 --> 00:47:56.039
weird happen.

773
00:47:57.679 --> 00:48:00.280
Oh yeah, I mean did the stories here come out

774
00:48:00.280 --> 00:48:03.199
of that place and also out of further south into

775
00:48:03.199 --> 00:48:06.800
the east, the Columbia River Gorge, The whole area there

776
00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:09.000
is weird. I mean the limit national force by itself

777
00:48:09.039 --> 00:48:11.920
is weird. I haven't even gotten to north where you

778
00:48:11.960 --> 00:48:14.559
guys are yet, but it's just it's just a while.

779
00:48:14.599 --> 00:48:19.159
So talking about you know down there, when you've gone

780
00:48:19.199 --> 00:48:23.239
down there with the the individuals down that group, have

781
00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:27.199
you had anything weird happened down around the Sweet Home area?

782
00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:32.559
Well, the only the only time that I spent down

783
00:48:33.519 --> 00:48:37.400
we camped down there when I when I first met them,

784
00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:40.639
and we had a we we camp down there for

785
00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:44.199
the weekend. But there wasn't really anything that that really

786
00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:48.280
happened when we were camping down there. But they they

787
00:48:48.320 --> 00:48:52.840
have kind of a lot of their own stories themselves.

788
00:48:53.599 --> 00:48:56.880
There's there's seems to be a lot of activity down there,

789
00:48:58.039 --> 00:49:01.360
and of course Michelle could probably from the Sweet Home

790
00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:04.079
group could probably elaborate more on it. But I have

791
00:49:04.239 --> 00:49:07.480
early researched some much other than just camping down there

792
00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:09.599
that one time. And of course we had we had

793
00:49:09.599 --> 00:49:12.360
a few like picnics down there where events where we

794
00:49:12.400 --> 00:49:14.800
all got together and stuff, But it wasn't we didn't

795
00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:19.079
go squatching down there, But there is there are several

796
00:49:19.159 --> 00:49:23.159
members in that group that have come that have come

797
00:49:23.239 --> 00:49:32.400
up with some pretty interesting stuff absolutely down there. But yeah, yeah, yeah,

798
00:49:32.719 --> 00:49:34.719
a different this area that I work. It's one of

799
00:49:34.760 --> 00:49:36.800
the reasons that I that I tend to stick to

800
00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:39.519
this area is just because of all the weird stuff.

801
00:49:39.559 --> 00:49:45.360
In fact, just last weekend I was up I was

802
00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:51.199
up there on the trail and my GoPro kept kept dying,

803
00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:54.519
and I thought the heck, and I was looking at it,

804
00:49:54.519 --> 00:49:57.920
and the battery wasn't long. I still had probably sixty percent.

805
00:49:58.719 --> 00:50:04.159
It died about three times. So I stopped and I thought, well,

806
00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:07.639
maybe I'll just change batteries anyhow, because they can't figure

807
00:50:07.639 --> 00:50:11.639
out why it was why I was dying. So as

808
00:50:11.679 --> 00:50:15.320
I'm looking at this, I saw what looked like another

809
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:19.039
There was another hiker coming up that trail, and they're

810
00:50:19.079 --> 00:50:23.880
probably maybe fifty sixty yards down the trail, and I

811
00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:26.119
didn't think too much of it at the time, so

812
00:50:26.199 --> 00:50:28.159
I stopped, and I was just kind of thinking the

813
00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:29.519
back of my mind. You know, by the time I

814
00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:31.719
get this battery switched to hycer, be up there and

815
00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:33.599
I'll ask them to see if I was going to

816
00:50:33.639 --> 00:50:37.719
ask them if they sig any of the gifting stations.

817
00:50:38.119 --> 00:50:41.079
So I changed my battery out and my go proal quick,

818
00:50:41.159 --> 00:50:47.360
which takes what ten seconds, and the hiker was gone. Oh,

819
00:50:47.400 --> 00:50:49.880
and so I thought, well, that was kind of weird.

820
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:53.400
I would swear that I saw a hiker there. And

821
00:50:54.920 --> 00:50:58.559
so I walked down the trail light and there was mud.

822
00:50:58.679 --> 00:51:00.639
It was plenty of mud on the trail. Oh, there's

823
00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:05.079
no tracks I saw. I hike back up the trail

824
00:51:06.760 --> 00:51:09.920
and I never found a hiker. So when I got

825
00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:13.159
back to the truck, I thought, well, what I'll do

826
00:51:13.199 --> 00:51:15.119
is I'll go out to the road and I'll go

827
00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:16.800
up and down the road a little bit and see

828
00:51:16.800 --> 00:51:20.559
where they parked, because I mean it was cold and

829
00:51:20.840 --> 00:51:24.119
raining and there was still some snow flying, and I

830
00:51:24.159 --> 00:51:28.199
mean obviously they would have parked somewhere nearby. But they

831
00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:30.400
never found a vehicle, never found a hiker, never found

832
00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:36.239
a vehicle. That was just last weekend. That I mean,

833
00:51:36.320 --> 00:51:39.880
it's that's where every time, every time I go up there,

834
00:51:39.960 --> 00:51:45.480
there's always something weird, and there there's always something weird

835
00:51:45.559 --> 00:51:51.519
going out there. Mane, it's the weirdest place I've ever been. Yeah.

836
00:51:51.559 --> 00:51:56.280
So, and it sounds like you haven't had a visual yet,

837
00:51:56.320 --> 00:51:59.719
like myself, I haven't had one either. But from what

838
00:51:59.760 --> 00:52:07.199
you know so far. What is your viewpoint of what sasquatches?

839
00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:08.519
If you have one, I.

840
00:52:08.480 --> 00:52:15.639
Guess, well, yeah, just well it's just like like you

841
00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:18.960
just said, I've never actually had a visual I mean everything,

842
00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:23.880
everything that I've encountered just seems to be circumstantial. It's like,

843
00:52:24.119 --> 00:52:26.400
you know, it's just like that stuff with the stick's flowing.

844
00:52:26.440 --> 00:52:29.559
I mean, you know when you look at all the

845
00:52:29.599 --> 00:52:32.280
creatures that live in a different pinch on, none of

846
00:52:32.320 --> 00:52:36.320
them throw break lens and throw them around. I mean,

847
00:52:36.960 --> 00:52:41.480
you know what I mean. I mean, so my outlook

848
00:52:41.559 --> 00:52:48.639
is is that it's it's kind of funny because when

849
00:52:48.920 --> 00:52:51.519
somebody says, oh, you believe in you believe in Bigfoot,

850
00:52:53.280 --> 00:52:57.360
and what I always say is really is that for me,

851
00:52:57.440 --> 00:53:00.679
it's it's not really a matter of belief, because it's like,

852
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:02.639
you know, it's you believe it, or if you don't,

853
00:53:02.719 --> 00:53:05.719
you believe in leper crowns are centering you don't. It's

854
00:53:05.719 --> 00:53:08.559
not a matter of belief for me. I had a

855
00:53:10.159 --> 00:53:13.960
I had a chemistry teacher one time that put it eloquently,

856
00:53:14.039 --> 00:53:18.079
and he said that you can't prove stuff. He said everything,

857
00:53:18.119 --> 00:53:22.400
that all the knowledge that we have is really a

858
00:53:22.400 --> 00:53:26.280
matter of probability, it's it's it's it's how sure you

859
00:53:26.360 --> 00:53:29.880
are of something that's going to happen or if something

860
00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:32.400
is or something isn't. And for me it's it's kind

861
00:53:32.400 --> 00:53:36.159
of like I think it's kind of that it's on

862
00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:40.199
it's about on that same line. I mean, to me,

863
00:53:40.280 --> 00:53:44.960
it's it's more of probability. Does do things like decryptids

864
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:49.719
like sasquatch exist? And even if even if I were,

865
00:53:50.320 --> 00:53:55.280
even if I believed that the probability was low, it's

866
00:53:55.360 --> 00:54:01.719
still enough for me to justify spending the time and

867
00:54:01.800 --> 00:54:07.360
the money on it that I do. I mean, really,

868
00:54:09.159 --> 00:54:11.599
if you think about all the thousands and thousands of

869
00:54:13.119 --> 00:54:20.480
sightings and stories that have come the light over what centuries,

870
00:54:21.039 --> 00:54:23.679
it really only takes one of those to be true

871
00:54:24.360 --> 00:54:30.760
and it's true. So that's pretty much that's pretty much

872
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:31.840
my outlook on it.

873
00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:35.159
Yeah, I mean, I agree with you on that because

874
00:54:35.639 --> 00:54:39.000
I mean, for me, every day it's another five to

875
00:54:39.039 --> 00:54:43.079
ten emails of people that just had a sighting that

876
00:54:43.320 --> 00:54:46.639
day or they're seventy years old, and they're like, hey,

877
00:54:46.679 --> 00:54:49.199
I don't care anymore, here's what happened, and it's all

878
00:54:49.239 --> 00:54:51.239
over the country. It's like, man, We're just going to

879
00:54:51.320 --> 00:54:55.519
keep rolling the dice in somewhere. Someday someone is going

880
00:54:55.559 --> 00:55:01.639
to get like the next Patterson Gimlin film, although with AI,

881
00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:05.159
I don't think that would do it anymore unfortunately. I mean,

882
00:55:05.719 --> 00:55:09.840
AI is just getting too crazy, especially with the video

883
00:55:09.960 --> 00:55:12.599
side of things. I would hope that, you know, we'd

884
00:55:12.599 --> 00:55:16.639
still would get an amazing real video someday. But yeah,

885
00:55:16.719 --> 00:55:21.039
I mean, doing this podcast for a few years and

886
00:55:21.239 --> 00:55:27.599
realizing slowly how big places like Gifford Pinchot National Forest are.

887
00:55:27.599 --> 00:55:30.760
I mean, it's massive. It's like Saint Helen's to Adams,

888
00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:36.199
and then like I mean even up to up near Vernier,

889
00:55:36.400 --> 00:55:39.199
right kind of to the east of Vernier, south of

890
00:55:39.199 --> 00:55:44.119
that a little bit, and and you realize just how

891
00:55:44.159 --> 00:55:48.480
big this is. And you don't have thousands of bigfoot

892
00:55:48.519 --> 00:55:52.079
researchers going out there, but you still have enough things

893
00:55:52.159 --> 00:55:55.679
happening so that if a few bigfoot researchers go out there,

894
00:55:55.760 --> 00:55:59.559
they're still having interactions, which to me is just incredible

895
00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:03.440
and tells me, hey, there's stuff going on in this

896
00:56:03.559 --> 00:56:08.039
area and in many other areas out there too. But Steve,

897
00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:11.679
it has been just a privileged to have you on

898
00:56:11.719 --> 00:56:14.239
the show. In the chat about what you're doing out

899
00:56:14.280 --> 00:56:19.159
there in the southern part of Gifford Pinchot. Definitely keep

900
00:56:19.239 --> 00:56:24.119
us in the in the loop. If you have anything

901
00:56:24.159 --> 00:56:27.719
else to share besides your YouTube channel or or if

902
00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:29.840
there's a way for people to reach out to you,

903
00:56:29.960 --> 00:56:32.480
feel free to share that at this time.

904
00:56:34.400 --> 00:56:38.199
Okay, Well, I do have an Instagram Steve Searches. I

905
00:56:38.239 --> 00:56:40.840
don't really use it very much that I use for

906
00:56:40.920 --> 00:56:43.800
the most part. There's I have a Facebook page Steve

907
00:56:43.800 --> 00:56:47.960
Searches and YouTube channel Steve Searches, and those are really

908
00:56:48.000 --> 00:56:52.320
the tools that I use the most. So that's that

909
00:56:52.639 --> 00:56:55.000
would be the best way to be the best way

910
00:56:55.039 --> 00:56:57.599
to see what I'm up to and what kind of

911
00:56:57.599 --> 00:57:00.599
trouble I'm getting into and where you get a hold

912
00:57:00.639 --> 00:57:00.760
of me.

913
00:57:01.840 --> 00:57:04.880
Fantastic, And I'll have your YouTube channel linked in the

914
00:57:04.880 --> 00:57:08.840
show notes. People can go check that out, subscribe and

915
00:57:09.039 --> 00:57:11.960
he puts out some good stuff over there. But thanks

916
00:57:11.960 --> 00:57:13.480
again for coming on the show, Steve.

917
00:57:14.599 --> 00:57:17.079
Oh yeah, perfect, Yeah, Hey, thanks a lot, thank you

918
00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:18.000
for having me on.

919
00:57:19.079 --> 00:57:20.880
Just wanted to take a few minutes to say thank

920
00:57:20.920 --> 00:57:24.559
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four any individuals that know about Bigfoot being flown off

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after the Mount Saint Helens eruption. Number five individuals that

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have had a Bigfoot encounter while in the military. Number

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six those that have had a bigfoot encounter in the

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southern New Hampshire or north central Massachusetts area, including Franklin County, Massachusetts.

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Number seven individuals that have had a Bigfoot encounter in

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a Bible camp or boy Scout camp setting. Number eight

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individuals that have had bigfoot try to enter their house

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forcibly while they were living inside. Number nine individuals that

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have actively have a bigfoot living on their property, and lastly,

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any sightings that are in the Wachitaw National Forest area

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of Oklahoma or Arkansas. A special thank you to all

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the Bigfoot Society, Patreon and YouTube channel members. It's your

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support that helps keep the show going and I extremely

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appreciate it. I'll see you back next time. Listeners. Sasat

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Summerfest this year July eleventh through the twelfth. It's gonna

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be fantastic July eleventh through twelfth in Greenwaters Park and Oakridge, Oregon.

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And listeners, if you're going to go, you can get

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a two day ticket for the cost of one if

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you use the code b f S like Bigfoot Society,

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but BFS, I'll get you some off your cost. Priscilla

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was nice enough to provide that for my listeners.

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So there you go.

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I look forward to seeing you there, so make sure

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you head over to www dot Sasquatch Summerfest dot com

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and pick up your tickets today.