May 1, 2023
Shofar Sasquatch: Summoning Bigfoot from the Woods with Mary Fabian
In this episode we talk about Mary Fabian’s 50 plus years researching Bigfoot in Pennsylvania and her adventures in some areas of Oklahoma known for their violent Sasquatch encounters.
Resources:
Books
What I’ve Learned about Bigfoot: 50 Years and...
In this episode we talk about Mary Fabian’s 50 plus years researching Bigfoot in Pennsylvania and her adventures in some areas of Oklahoma known for their violent Sasquatch encounters.
Resources:
Books
What I’ve Learned about Bigfoot: 50 Years and Counting by Mary Fabian - https://amzn.to/3HrnQ39 (affiliate link)
Pennsylvania Bigfoot Project - https://www.facebook.com/groups/PennsylvaniaBigfootProject
https://www.pennsylvaniabigfoot.org
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What I’ve Learned about Bigfoot: 50 Years and Counting by Mary Fabian - https://amzn.to/3HrnQ39 (affiliate link)
Pennsylvania Bigfoot Project - https://www.facebook.com/groups/PennsylvaniaBigfootProject
https://www.pennsylvaniabigfoot.org
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The head is pointing one way and
the shoulders or front legs or the other
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way, and the back legs are
twisted this way. And it's quite gruesome
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and really obvious what killed it?
Because whatever had it had to a cat
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hands or opposable bumbs and twisting like
an old dish rag. Welcome back to
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Bigfoot Society. In this episode,
we talked to Mary Fabian about her years
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of being harassed by a big Foot
at her property and her time exploring Purgatory
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in Oklahoma, which is a very
extremely violent bigfoot area. Find out what
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happens this week only on the big
Foot Society podcast. All Right, Bigfoot
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Society, I've got the privilege of
talking to Marry Fabian from the Pennsylvania Bigfoot
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Project tonight. How's it going Mary, It's going great. Oh. I
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am excited to have you on tonight
and talk about your fifty years of bigfoot
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research experience. I was able to
get a copy of your book What I've
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Learned about Bigfoot fifty Years in County, and it is just it's fascinating.
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You have had stuff happened literally your
entire life. It's a great read.
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It's definitely going to be a link
for that in the show notes, so
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people can check that out. But
is there anything else that the listeners should
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know for context about you, Mary, besides that You've been into bigfoot a
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whole ton the book, it's fifty
years in counting. There were a few
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decades in there where I did not
have any Bigfoot experience. I was just
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in ther mom, housewife, etc. But whenever I did have an encounter
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a siding whenever I was a child. And then things picked up again after
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a couple of decades and I moved
into a certain area, and after that
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it's been boom. So let's start
back at the beginning. That's always the
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best place to start. What was
it that first got you into bigfoot?
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At the beginning, Mary, would
have been my first fighting, my first
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encounters. I was eleven years old
and just walking along a gasline and saw
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a big foot. And then later
on, maybe a couple of years later,
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we were camping, my family and
I were camping up in the mountains
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of southwestern Pennsylvania, and I had
encounters. I saw structures, tree structures,
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had rocks thrown at me, tree
limbs thrown at me. And I
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was just a kid. I had
no idea what was going on, what
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was doing it? Between that and
my sighting, it sparked a curiosity to
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learn and along with my dad talking
about the wild man or the hairy man,
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and he really didn't get too much
into it. I honestly have no
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idea if he had seen one or
not. He never specifically said if he
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had, but he did talk about
it, and that interest in the paranormal
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in general sparked as a teenager and
continued, and then later on in two
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thousand and four, whenever I remarried
and moved to Beaver County, Pennsylvania and
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started having some other bigfoot encounters and
experiences and sightings, that's whenever it was
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okay, let's learn more about Bigfoot
and just digging in and searching for other
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people really, and that was hard
searching for people in my area who were
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experiencing things. Also, no one
would talk, so I reached out a
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little bit further and found Facebook groups
and people on Facebook who were talking about
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it. But then what they were
experiencing really didn't match what I was and
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it honestly didn't make any sense.
But I did find a group of guys
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down south in Alabama. They were
scattered through the South and called the big
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Foot Outlaws. I joined their group, talked with them. This makes perfect
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sense what they were saying. It
matched what I was experiencing and learning and
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going through and what I knew about
that particular bigfoot who was coming around my
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home, because it was at that
time there was a big foot harassing me
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at my house. At my home, every time he would come around,
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I was learning more about him,
his behavior, how well to handle him
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in particular, and different things at
the timing and and so on. I
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make friends with the guys a big
Foot out Laws, and a few of
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them still remain friends now. And
one of those gentlemen is coun tho ye
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speaker, correct, that's correct.
Yes, he is. My mentor calls
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me every so often and he'll say, you want to come out to Oklahoma
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or somewhere and go on a research
trip, and I say, heck,
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yeah, all right, We're going
to talk about that later because that's gonna
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be amazing. But I wanted not
overly skip over the foundational stuff. There
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was a lot said in that intro
story, which is amazing. Thankfully,
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I've read your book, so I
know some of the details as well.
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Your first encount I believe is your
first encounter happened in summer of nineteen sixty
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seven, correct, that's correct?
Yes, was that in southwest Pennsylvania,
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Yes, Okay, Allegheny County.
Okay, Chestnut Ridge area nearby, not
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quite but near it, maybe a
little bit north of the It runs into
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Westmoreland and Fayette County in the south
of Pennsylvania and in southwestern Pennsylvania. And
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I was may be forty miles north
of there, but we did go into
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the Chestnut Ridge quite often. We
would camp there. Do you remember a
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lot about that first encounter when you
were eleven in nineteen sixty seven? The
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creature looked like what kind of thing
you were dealing with? Well, what
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happened was I was walking along a
gas line and I was going down a
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hill into a holler, and on
the opposite side there were woods on the
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right in a field overgrown with brush. On my left, the big foot
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came out of the woods to my
right and started across the trail that I
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was hiking on, and he just
stopped and looked at me. Now,
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at this time, I had never
heard about bigfoot, never seen or experienced
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anything about the only thing that I
knew about a big hairy creature. There
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was what I had seen on TV
about the Siberian snowman, and that was
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it. The yetti. Yeah,
that was all we knew at that time,
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and I had no idea what this
was. All I saw and thought
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was this is a big hairy man
wearing a fur coat in the middle of
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summer. And now he was big
and hairy, but he wasn't wearing a
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coat. He was the coat was
part of him. He was completely black.
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The details of his face, all
I can recall is that he had
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what I knew of as Neanderthal features, and that's about the only way that
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I could describe his features. He
didn't act mean towards me. He didn't
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act aggressive, he didn't do anything
threatening. He just stopped and looked at
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me, and then he just turned
and walked continued walking into the brush in
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the field opposite from us. It
made me wonder, okay, what was
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that about? And then but then
I continued on. But the thing is
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that encounter with this big hairy man
wearing a fur coat. It stuck in
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my memory, you know, for
decades, until I connected many years later
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as to what it actually was that
I had seen fascinating detail about that encounter,
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and I'm sure most listeners have made
the connection. But it's crazy how
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your first encounter took place a few
months before the Patterson Gimblin filming, you
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know, October of nineteen sixty seven, and years happened in the summer.
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So it makes sense how you would
say you didn't have that to fall back
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on as having seen because it wasn't
even filmed yet. No, do you
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remember the first time you saw that
film as a young child or maybe as
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a high schooler. Oh, I
really couldn't say exactly when I saw it.
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My sister and I would always go
to the movies, to the movie
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theater, and so it would have
had to have run between movies or something.
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I'm certain, but specifically when I
honestly couldn't tell you. Also,
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you mentioned that the creature had Neanderthal
features, and I found that very interesting.
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Could you describe exactly what you meant
by Neanderthal features. I would say
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that the heavy brow, the brow
ridge, but I think other than that,
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he had a lighter skin tone,
not quite Caucasian, maybe tanned,
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but lighter skin tone underneath the facial
hair, interesting. I've talked to a
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few people that have had sightings as
younger children. It's just it's amazing how
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it just it's burned into your memory
over the years, because I get a
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lot of feedback where people are like, oh, come on, people aren't
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going to wreck, They're not going
to remember something that happened to them when
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they're eleven. And I think if
you had something like that happened to you
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when you were ten or eleven,
you'd be remembering that because it's probably something
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that you would see when you close
your guys at night. It wasn't traumatic.
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It was just just something about it
that did stick of my memory,
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which honestly is strange, as you
would think, Oh, okay, I'm
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hiking along a path and running into
a woodsman or something while I'm hiking,
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and but no, this stuck.
It's stuck in my memory. Do you
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remember anything about its feet or were
you able to see it actually walk or
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move away from you at all,
anything like that. Yeah, I did
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watch him walk away, but honestly, I can't remember it. Wouldn't you
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be able to give you any specifics
about his walk? No problem? Unfortunately.
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I also find it interesting how you
mentioned that you've also been camping multiple
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times in the Chestnut Ridge area,
which some crazy stories have come out of
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that area over the years. Stand
Gordon, things like that, But oh
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yeah, did anything out of the
ordinary happen to you when you went camping
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in that Chestnut Ridge area of southwestern
Pennsylvania. Where we would camp was behind
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a French and Indian war fort that
George Washington had built back during before the
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Revolutionary War called Fort Necessity, and
there was a campground back behind the fort.
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The campground is no longer there right
now. It's picnic grounds, but
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really no one uses it. It's
pretty much deserted and overgrown. But at
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that time it was a beautiful campground
and it was packed during that period of
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time that was around let me think
sixty nine through seventy two. I'm thinking
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is whenever we would go up there
in camp, and every time we would
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go, first thing, right after
breakfast, I would jump out of the
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trailer or the camper and just run
out into the woods and go explore.
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I'd follow whatever game trails I could
find and just walk for miles and not
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return until right before dark, and
just exploring the whole mountain, which was
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great. I loved it up there. But the only unusual thing though,
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that would happen would be that I
would run into these strange what we know
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now as tree structures. But whenever
I saw them back then, I could
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tell that they were unusual, that
they were not natural, that they were
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logs and tree limbs deliberately placed in
an intricate pattern. It was obvious even
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to a kid. Occasionally around those
structures, I would be hiking and the
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rocks would be thrown at me,
or tree limbs would get thrown at me.
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I took it as okay, I'm
trespassing onto somebody's territory, and so
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I would just put up my hands
and say, okay, I'm going to
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turn around and I'm going to go
back. Apparently I wasn't wanted there.
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You got to respect someone's territory.
Yeah, because at that point you're not
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even thinking of oh this is bigfoot. You're just like someone I better be
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cautious because someone is not happy with
me. I think that's a smart move
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what you did as a younger person
there. You run into some My mother
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was from West Virginia and she had
hailed Billy relatives. Yeah, you gotta
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be careful of others territory. Who
knows what you'll stumble upon out in the
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woods for sure. Oh man,
I would love to fast forward a bit
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to where you're saying that there's a
point where you're starting to get harassed by
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a big foot. I'm curious what
it means to be harassed by a creature
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like that. What exactly is happening? Well, in two thousand and four,
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I remarried and moved about forty miles
north of where I previously he lived,
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and up into Beaver County with my
husband and his home, and just
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about immediately activity would start, something
would beat on the wall right behind my
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head where I was laying in bed
sleeping, And the first time that happened,
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I heard the single pound whack on
the wall right behind my head,
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and then I heard a garbled,
strange garbled language, something talking, two
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creatures talking to each other. And
that's what we know now as the samurai
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chatter. Whatever I heard Ron Moorehead's
recordings that I recognized it as being samurai
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chatter. It was just that when
a very deep, gravelly voice was similar
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to that, whenever I would be
sleeping, something would like every two two
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and a half to three weeks,
something would come around and whack the wall
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if I was asleep right behind my
head, or else if I was awake
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and sitting out in the family room
watching TV. It would come up to
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the patio door and peek in the
windows and so on. But initially I
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wouldn't see it, and I wouldn't
be aware of it. My dog would
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let me know that it was there. Now, I'm not certain if I
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had sent you a photo of her
or not, but she would lay by
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that backdoor constantly, always watching out
that backdoor. And now I know why.
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That was her at her guard post, always watching for him whenever he
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would come around. But the way
she would react really upset me. As
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to how she would react, that
is, but she would react in a
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specific way that was just frankly terrified. We had gotten her from a rescue.
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She was a border collie, and
we were very slowly getting her back
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into gaining confidence in herself and gaining
her voice and being happy around humans,
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us as her family. But whenever
he would come by, if she would
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be laying there at the door,
facing the door, and she would give
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a very soft mixture of a soft
growl and a wine very soft. Her
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hackles would go up and her tail
tucked and she would crawl backwards until she
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was huddled up against my legs,
just shaky in fear, just total terror.
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And this would go on and every
time he would come around, and
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of course at first it would freak
me out. What's going on? What's
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scaring her? Because she wasn't afraid
of anything that would come around the yard.
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I thought, I'm not going to
put up with this, whatever's going
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on. I would bring my pistol
and put it next to me, and
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thinking, okay, whatever's out there, let's see what's going on. But
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at first I wouldn't go out to
see. But after a while I figured
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out what it was because I think
the one time I had seen him peeking
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up over the wall at me,
I was out in the backyard and I
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saw him. He was just looking. All I saw was head and shoulders
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up, and she was The sun
was right behind him, so he was
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silhouetted. I couldn't make out any
features, but all I could see was
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his hair, which was a beautiful
golden red reddish gold color and sparkling in
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the sunshine. It was very pretty, but whenever I saw him, I
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wagged my finger at him. I
said, I see usob and he ducked
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his head down and hurried away.
But after that, the next time that
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he came around and would terrify her, I just I just snapped. I
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was angry, to say the least, and I jumped up, ran out
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the door, grabbed a golf club
that I had sitting there, and I
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ran out the door after him,
chasing after him and calling them names,
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and don't you come around anymore,
you big bully. And I was just
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angry because he was buying my dog
and I wasn't going to put up with
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that. It's never fun when something
you love gets bullied. For sure,
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I can understand that. Did things
get better for you after you reacted like
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that or did they get worse?
Well? He still came around, ye,
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the same as usual. Yeah.
The thing was, at first we
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had security lights in the back the
house that were motion sensitive. They would
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trigger whenever an animal come through the
yard. And every so often I would
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go out there and I would see
that they had been moved so they wouldn't
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trigger, and I would tell my
husband and I would say, why do
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you keep moving these lights? I
need these two point out so they'll trigger
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or whenever this sob comes around.
He told me he'd never moved them.
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We lived in a ranch home.
It was a low ranch home, so
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for an eight foot creature, they
were easily reachable. And what he would
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do he would come up alongside the
house, just huddle it up against the
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house, and then reach up and
move it. That's what I figure that
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he did so it wouldn't alert me. There was no light that would come
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on to alert me about the only
thing that alerted being was my dog.
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Did you ever find any tracks around
the house? Not around the house?
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The ground was very hard and not
good ground around the house. But I
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did find tracks on the hill behind
the house. There was a game trail
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that cut down above the house.
I followed it up the hill and I
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found a few tracks, and I
sent those to you. Also, those
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tracks, though they were smaller,
maybe nine to ten inches long, they
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weren't full adult ones. Those were
juveniles. So apparently that was a nursery
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upon the hill. On the other
side of that hill was the Beaver River,
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a very deep river valley, very
steep hills. There's old mines along
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there, old caves, that you'd
have to be a real mountain climber to
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get down there into those, so
I never got down into there. Remind
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me, you still at that residence
then, or you at a different place
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now. Yeah, we moved in
twenty sixteen, so that went on for
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twelve years, and we moved a
little bit further out in the country and
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we built a new home here.
And while we were building the home,
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I would check around the foundation,
and yeah, I found footprints around the
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foundation. I found structures, so
I knew they were around here. But
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fortunately they don't bother us here.
They ignore me, which is no problem
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with me. I tried my dog
on not to dry their attention. Do
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you ever hear any vocalizations or anything
out else sound wise that would make you
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think they're in the area as well? Yeah, yeah, I hear vocals
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late at night whenever I take We
have another dog now, the one we
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had at the other house she passed
away, but we have another Border Collie
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now. I'll take her out late
at night and I'll hear vocals, not
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constantly, just especially in the early
part of the year round March February March.
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I'll hear vocals later on in the
summer, like into the early fall,
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I'll hear more vocals and usually that's
a high pitched call or whistle.
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What they'll do and what I here
is a whistle. And then I'll hear
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the coyotes start yapping. And then
all of a sudden, you hear a
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sound yep, and a coyote has
been killed. Wow. Yeah, you
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really think that he's just probably getting
annoyed and time to take it, time
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to show him whose boss. Maybe
I don't know it's possible or else.
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They hunt them for for the organ
meat before the spring greens come up.
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They'll they'll go after whatever game that
they're catching, and they'll usually eat the
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organ meat for the rich proteins.
And yeah, because we were in Tennessee
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with Combo and the Outlaws back in
seventeen and one of one of the people
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in our party found at coyote that
a big foot had killed and it was
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very obvious that what had killed it, because this coyote was literally twisted like
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a pretzel. That is so interesting. I've talked to a gentleman in Montana.
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There was an experience where I believe
it was a grizzly that had its
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next snapped. Obviously, it had
to be something with hands, and it
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sounds like you encountered something similar on
a smaller form. Yeah, it's like
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I said, the head is pointing
one way in the shoulders or front legs
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or the other and the back legs
or twisted this way. And it's quite
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gruesome and really obvious. What killed
it? Because whatever had it had to
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tad hands or opposable thumbs and twisting
like an old dish rag. Next questions
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might get a little bit intense,
so listeners be advised. I am really
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curious. Was it just twisted and
left there or did it actually eat parts
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of you could tell, Okay,
this part is missing because it was eaten
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by the creature anything. I thought, No, it was it was just
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twisted and left there after it was
killed. I don't think the people who
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found it were able to I don't
think they looked deeply enough to see if
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it had been if any organs or
anything had been removed. I don't think
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so, going by the photo,
because she did take a photo of it,
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and I've studied that photo quite deeply, and I don't see any sign
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of any cuts or bite marks or
anything. It's just twisted. Makes you
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almost wonder if it was to send
a message if there's these sasquatch, coyote
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pack warring factions in some areas of
the US. Who knows, that's me
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imagining, but that would be wild. Has there ever been a point when
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you're out doing field research and something
happens that you're like, this is just
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a little bit too intense that I
don't really want to be where I am
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right now. I'd rather be back
home with my dog. Oh yeah.
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Occasionally I'll go into an area,
like a few years ago, there's a
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park near here, maybe half an
hour from me, Moraine State Park,
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and I was hiking along a trail
and just all of a sudden, it's
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a feeling of intense danger. Just
stop, don't go any further. That
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it just hit me all of a
sudden, and so I thought to myself,
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Okay, I respect this. I'm
not going any further. So I
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what I did do, though,
I stopped and took a series of photos
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with my camera in a one eighty
degree arc too possibly capture something there.
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And then I left And a little
bit later on I was able to study
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those photos and I possibly had caught
something up in a tree. I'm not
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certain. It's very pixelated. I
see a face that could possibly be a
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primate looking face. I'm not saying
it was a small one or not.
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I don't know, but I caught
something there. Wow. Very interesting.
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When people ask Mary what is bigfoot? What is your answer to that?
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I go by science and evidence and
doctor Melbae Ketchum's DNA or genome project,
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and from my own observations of primate
behavior, A mixture between gorilla, chimpanzee,
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and human something in between there is
what I have observed. And and
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then doctor Ketchum's DNA tests they showed
non human primate human, and then something
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else which she identified as nephelum.
And a little bit later on I was
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able, at least in my mind, I confirmed to myself that the nephelum
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DNA is there, primarily because a
trip that I had taken out to Oklahoma
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with Cumbo and a bunch of other
researchers. Cumbo was experimenting with what's called
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a show far. It's like a
curved horn. Correct, Yeah, it's
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a ram's horn, and the Hebrews
used it in celebration in victory. In
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war, Joshua used it whenever he
was marching around the walls of Jericho to
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bring the walls of Jericho down,
which kind of tells you something. They're
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also the frequency the blast, constant
blast in a certain frequency, the power
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that has and the specific show far
that Kumbo had was a I'm not going
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to say what kind it was because
I honestly can't remember, but it was
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a specific type and whenever he would
blow it, they wouldn't respond all the
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time. It was only whenever Cumbo
was able to reach a certain range on
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that horn on the show far.
In that certain range, that's whenever they
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would respond. I know the one
night we were in an area that we
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nicknamed Purgatory, we were down there. It's a historic area with some violent
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history between Bigfoot and other cryptids and
humans. Pretty dangerous area that it just
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gave up really bad vibes whenever we
were down there. But while we were
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there, this was around midnight,
Combo blew the show far and he was
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able to reach that certain frequency,
and we got a response from three different
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Bigfoot through different directions from a couple
of miles out. One roared and the
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other one roar from miles away in
another direction. And another one roared from
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another direction, and then they would
roar again and you could tell they were
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getting closer. They were coming in
pretty hot and fast, roaring all the
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way, and they were not happy. And then you could tell they were
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coming in on us. And thank
god, we had a pretty pretty good
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sized group of about fourteen researchers.
We had about seven pickup trucks in there
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that we were standing around, and
whenever the bigfoot came in, the three
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of them, they stopped about fifty
yards out and they were back behind some
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brush and trees, but we could
see shadows, we could see their eyes
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shine and everything, and hear little
things now and then told us where they
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were. That was a pretty hairy
night. But what they did, though,
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like I said, they stopped,
and the feeling that I got was
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that they were waiting. They were
waiting for a further signal or something else,
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to do something else, I don't
know. But whenever that signal didn't
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come, they just went away,
and you know, we knew that they
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weren't there anymore. And it was
like, Wow, there's a lot to
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impact from that. That's a that's
intense, Mary. It was, Yes,
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it was very intense. My older
sister was with us, and she
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had never had a bigfoot experience before. That was the first one for her.
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That was, to tell you the
truth, she was completely unaware.
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She was in the back of the
truck, too afraid to come out no
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matter where we were. And I
think she was just in there, either
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sleeping or playing on her phone.
Oh my god. But my thought was
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always I had to stay by the
truck to protect her. And I don't
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know what I could have done,
but I'm going to ask. I'm going
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to ask some questions, and you're
welcome to decline them. Was that in
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southeast Oklahoma? Yes? Was that
in Lafloora County? To be honest,
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I don't know what county that way
in? That's all right? No?
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Oh no, that was not.
Yeah, okay, man, that sounds
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wild. Why do you think they
responded to the horn like that? But
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their nephelum DNA they would have to
for listeners that aren't overly familiar with religious
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texts. Can you describe in I
don't know if you have an easy way
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to describe exactly when you think of
a naphelum. What we're dealing with naphelum
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is the you look back in Genesis
in the Old Testament, and I know
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there's people who don't believe in the
Bible who think of it as fairy tale.
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But and then there's other people who
look at it as a history book,
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which it is. It's a history
book as well as religious text.
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The nephelum were the product of a
mating between fallen angels, angels who disobeyed
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God and came down to Earth and
mate it with women, human women,
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and what the women for was the
nephelum. And so the nephelum they have
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angelic DNA along with the human DNA, which doctor Ketchum was able to identify.
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People have asked me, how do
you know, Yah, where did
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she get nephel m dna? How
can you identify nephel m DNA? A
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friend of mine and totally different conversation
told me that whenever they went to get
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testing done, their doctor told them
that they had nephel m DNA. Okay,
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I will not go further than that. Yeah, I mean that there's
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some stories there, but they probably
won't be shared. I'm guessing. Wow,
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I'm just going to ask you can
decline, so what it was for
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a regular medical visit or for testing
of a bigfoot hair. No, it
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was medical or medical reasons, are
you kid? Yes? That's intense.
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Wow and the doctor just busted that
out. Oh man, wow, you
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know that they have nephil m DNA. Wow. Do you think then there's
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some bigfoot that are half Nephelim or
they're actually Nephelim and we're calling them bigfoot
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or what do you think about that? There's some people that have encounters where
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it's a physical creature and they have
just regular Bigfoot encounters wipe you can call
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it regular. And then there's other
people who describe their encounters as being more
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in the paranormal range, where they
say the Bigfoot hopped through portals or they
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come in on the mist and they
do strange magical things. Now, whenever
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I hear those stories, my mind
goes to the demonic rather than the physical
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bigfoot, because the Bigfoot who hopped
through portals and what they call inner dimensionals,
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the things that they do around these
people border on demonic quite frankly.
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And I've warned a friend of mine
about what was going on, and I
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told her, you've invited them onto
your property. Unfortunately, you're going to
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have to do something to get them
away, perhaps speak with a medium or
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something who can help you. How
does one invite a bigfoot onto their property?
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You think that they're bigfoot, and
you think, oh, how wonderful.
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I'm going to have a relationship with
these wonderful creatures, and that's your
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first clue. Relationship on a normal
basis, you're not going to have a
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relationship friends going up and shaking their
hands or greeting them or talking to them
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and have them talk to you.
That's not going to happen unless they are
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on that other demonic side. Do
you think there can be ever situations where
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let's say you have your house,
you have some acres of land, and
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you have bigfoot living there as well. Can there ever be situations like that
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where it's an act like there's a
happy ending or will it always end up
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in you don't want to leave out
food for them type deal with the flesh
404
00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:34.960
and blood bigfoot that I've had my
experiences with. Yeah, they just want
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to be left alone. They want
to be respected, they want their territory
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to be respected. They want to
raise their families and just be left in
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peace. They don't want a relationship. They just want to be left alone.
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And sometimes occasionally you'll run into a
nasty one who like the one who
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came around my house, you know, who just wants to play games and
410
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because they're bored or whatever. And
that's usually the young males don't come around
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and like teenagers, they're bored.
But once they get older, no,
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they just want to be left alone. But I highly advise anyone never ever
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put food out. You don't want
to do that. Let's say there's a
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listener where they've been putting food out
and they've noticed some weird stuff. Is
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there anything they can do to get
out of that situation or is it just
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buckle up for the ride. You
may want to move. Yeah, once
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you begin and they start taking food
on a regular basis, you're pretty much
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stuck. Because if you stop,
they will act very vindictively. They may
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come into your home, and they
have been known to come into homes looking
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for food. They'll kill your pets, your livestock. Whenever you do something
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like that, it's endangering your pets, your livestock, your family, your
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00:51:35.880 --> 00:51:45.400
neighbors. It's a dangerous situation that
I cannot emphasize enough that once people start
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it, don't stop. Because that's
whenever they'll start destroying things. But even
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then, they still may come into
your home looking for food. Have you
425
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heard reports of that actually happening where
they will come into your home as they
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get more used to the area and
I'm going to find more food. Yeah,
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yeah, I've heard quite a few
stories about that. Bear will do
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the same. You start feeding bears. Yeah, they'll come in. They'll
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come in looking for more food.
They'll break into homes that they break into
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vehicles. It's dangerous. People have
talked to me about it, asking what
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they can do, and I just
advise them to there's really not much you
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can do. You may the mistake
of starting, you honestly can't stop.
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Just beware, watch guard your house, scarred your family. It's a bad
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situation. I've known a few people
who have moved away. Wow, it's
435
00:53:22.000 --> 00:53:27.519
trying to escape that. But then
the thing is, whoever purchases their home
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have now been put into a dangerous
situation that they have no knowledge of what's
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00:53:32.639 --> 00:53:37.679
going on. Yeah, surprise.
Have you ever talked to a person where
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it's I have no idea what's going
on. I moved into this house and
439
00:53:42.039 --> 00:53:45.719
I am just getting passed up by
something. I have no idea what's going
440
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on here. Yeah, I've spoken
with a few people. One one person
441
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that I spoke with figured it out
fairly quickly what was going on. His
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daughter. I think his little girl
was maybe ten years old something like that.
443
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Yeah, she was in a lot
of danger and he was able to
444
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do a few things to keep them
at least have a mutual respect somewhat that
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00:54:28.719 --> 00:54:34.960
they wouldn't come near the house anymore. But that was through a series of
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00:54:35.239 --> 00:54:44.960
using on a daily basis. Practically, I told him, you start doing
447
00:54:46.000 --> 00:54:57.039
target practicing in your yard. Let
them know that you're armed and wear it
448
00:54:58.000 --> 00:55:04.760
whenever you're outside. Let them know
that you have it on you, along
449
00:55:04.760 --> 00:55:10.400
with a few other things that you
can try. But yeah, nothing is
450
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one hundred percent. As far as
I know, he's still on guard.
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And this has been about I think
around ten years now that we first started
452
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talking about it. Is that Pennsylvania
too, No, he was in Midwest
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somewhere. I didn't know exactly where. If you say, Iowa, I'm
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just going to just freak out and
lock on my doors, That's where I'm
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at. Oh, Okay, Yeah, I honestly don't know where to stake.
456
00:55:40.599 --> 00:55:45.280
But yeah, they are in Iowa. Oh really, Oh yes,
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yeah, Boombo was there a few
years ago. Yeah, he was there.
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Sorry, I know a bigfooter in
Iowa. But it's just interesting.
459
00:55:55.800 --> 00:56:00.440
I'm curious. What have you heard. Yeah, and a friend of mine
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went out. Oh I wish I
knew what specific area of Iowa he was
461
00:56:08.119 --> 00:56:15.159
in a I'd have to look at
my notes to see where it was.
462
00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:22.800
But he was talking about that he
found sign they potentially ran into one.
463
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While one of the women was in
a restroom at the campground. Something came
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around the side of the bathroom where
she could see through the louvers, big
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00:56:38.679 --> 00:56:47.800
hairy feet and they heard tree knocks
and vocals and found prints and a lot
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00:56:47.840 --> 00:56:53.000
of other sign But I'll have to
look at my notes again to see what
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area of Iowa they were in.
I think I need to have a chat
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00:56:58.440 --> 00:57:02.760
with mister Kombo, not talk to
him on big foot societies. We're going
469
00:57:02.840 --> 00:57:08.039
to need to make that happen for
sure. Yeah, going back to the
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Nephelum for just a minute. So
when you go out and you're going to
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research an area where there's been a
bigfoot scene or something like that, do
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00:57:19.920 --> 00:57:24.639
you have in your mind then that
okay, I could be dealing with and
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undiscovered grade ape, or this could
be a nephelum in something highly dangerous,
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or is it a thing where a
certain areas of the country you may have
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the one happening than the other.
Initially, my mind is on the physical
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plush and blood bigfoot. That's what
I search for. I have not run
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into the other type yet, and
I hope not to. Along with dog
478
00:58:05.119 --> 00:58:08.239
man. I've not run into a
dog man yet, and I don't want
479
00:58:08.280 --> 00:58:15.039
to. That's not something I've et
any interest in exploring or looking for.
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00:58:16.800 --> 00:58:22.760
I'll look up, you know,
history of the area to see if there's
481
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other sighting reports. Whenever I go
into an area to see what's going on,
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I'll look at a map. Google
Earth is a great resource and you
483
00:58:35.800 --> 00:58:44.199
can really zoom in into areas to
see features along with a topographical map where
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you can see elevations and see the
curvatures of where hillsides and deep valleys are.
485
00:59:00.039 --> 00:59:07.840
It helps whenever you're big footing to
know these topographical features, because there's
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certain areas where they seem to hang
out a little bit more than others.
487
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I look for water ways, primarily
rivers, or creeks, ponds or lakes
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00:59:24.519 --> 00:59:31.719
also, but running water more like
crakes. I think they seem to prefer
489
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a little bit more, but they
will hang around the lakes. Also,
490
00:59:39.400 --> 00:59:45.960
was reading a report by the NAWAC
out of Area X. It's very interesting
491
00:59:46.360 --> 00:59:52.159
how doctor Russ Jones pointed this out
to how it almost seems if you find
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an area with a certain amount of
annual rainfall above I want to say,
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like thirty five inches, have you
found that to be true as well?
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You just stated that you found similarities
over the years, But have you found
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01:00:07.199 --> 01:00:15.199
that if the area gets more rain
it could be more fruitful or any thoughts
496
01:00:15.239 --> 01:00:22.719
about that? I have found that. And Coombo also did a study on
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I think what he did was a
study on the numbers of bigfoot in different
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01:00:31.519 --> 01:00:43.119
areas, and different areas are much
more conducive to having a higher population of
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01:00:43.199 --> 01:00:50.880
bigfoot in them, and it would
be areas with a higher instance of rainfall.
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01:00:51.599 --> 01:01:00.079
And fortunately, Western Pennsylvania is an
area like that. We do get
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01:01:00.119 --> 01:01:07.119
a high amount of rainfall. Maybe
not quite as much as the Pacific Northwest,
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01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:15.000
but but we do get a pretty
good amount. And along with the
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01:01:15.079 --> 01:01:24.440
South the southern US. But then
even then the dryer states like Oklahoma and
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01:01:24.599 --> 01:01:35.559
Texas, certain areas of it there
there is higher populations of them and a
505
01:01:35.880 --> 01:01:45.199
higher number of them in certain areas. Oklahoma is funny because yeah is dry.
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01:01:45.400 --> 01:01:50.440
But if you look on a map, that's southeast corner sure gets a
507
01:01:50.440 --> 01:01:54.679
lot of rain. It does.
Watchita Mountains, it's party time for sure.
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01:01:55.920 --> 01:02:05.480
We found pretty pretty could have mounted
there. And where we were we
509
01:02:05.719 --> 01:02:17.000
camped in the Chickasaw National Recreationciation Area
and oh my, if you're in the
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01:02:17.039 --> 01:02:22.840
big footing, go there. It's
a fantastic area. It really is.
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The residents, the long time residents
who talk about the big Foot, they
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01:02:31.679 --> 01:02:37.400
say, the old people they used
to go around. They would sit by
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01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:40.440
the lake and just watch the big
Foot playing on the other side of the
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01:02:40.559 --> 01:02:50.079
lake, just for fun. Yeah, it's a fantastic area there. And
515
01:02:50.320 --> 01:02:55.159
along the border, the Texas Oklahoma
border, along the Red River, we
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01:02:55.159 --> 01:03:04.440
were along there in another infamy,
this area called Brown Springs. It was
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01:03:05.440 --> 01:03:09.719
pretty creepy. There a lot of
weird things going on there. I've not
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01:03:09.960 --> 01:03:15.400
heard about Brown Springs, and that
might be just I'm still under five years
519
01:03:16.280 --> 01:03:20.880
in this subject, so I'm not
to the fifty that you're at. But
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01:03:21.719 --> 01:03:24.639
I've heard of area X. I've
heard of other places in Oklahoma, but
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I haven't heard of Brown Springs.
Would you be able to share a little
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01:03:29.960 --> 01:03:36.960
bit info about that Brown Springs?
A little bit of history about that area
523
01:03:37.239 --> 01:03:46.400
is apparently it was a high amount
of murders in the area. I don't
524
01:03:46.440 --> 01:03:52.679
know if it was mafia or what, I honestly don't recall, but there
525
01:03:52.800 --> 01:03:59.840
was a high amount of murders and
bodies found in the area as well.
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Is bigfoot being there. There's a
graveyard up on the hill that a lot
527
01:04:06.599 --> 01:04:14.920
of ghost hunters will go to and
they'll find a lot of I'm not in
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01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:19.599
the ghost hunting, but apparently it's
a good spot for ghost hunting. But
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01:04:20.639 --> 01:04:29.960
the bigfoot around there are a little
more aggressive. The one place that we
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01:04:29.960 --> 01:04:35.079
were at, it was very steep
and rutted to get up on the hill.
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And I'm disabled now I can't walk
or hike like I used to.
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01:04:45.760 --> 01:04:48.920
I said, I'll just stay in
the truck and while the rest of you
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01:04:49.000 --> 01:04:55.719
go up there. And the guy
said, you know you're coming up.
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01:04:55.760 --> 01:04:59.840
If we have to carry you,
you're coming up. You're not going to
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01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:04.719
TV alone down here. So I
said, okay, so I got a
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01:05:04.800 --> 01:05:13.800
couple of hiking sticks and hobbled my
way up. But it's an area that
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01:05:15.400 --> 01:05:24.920
also Cumbo has told a story about
where a No, I don't know exactly
538
01:05:24.920 --> 01:05:31.239
what year this happened, but apparently
an FBI agent had contacted him and sent
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01:05:31.360 --> 01:05:40.519
him photos and was consulting with him
about a about two bodies. He wanted
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01:05:40.559 --> 01:05:46.159
to know if if Cumbo would have
any idea if this was bigfoot related or
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01:05:46.199 --> 01:05:54.639
not. There was a a young
couple had who had driven into this area
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01:05:54.760 --> 01:06:04.079
around Brown Springs and they were parking, but apparently a few bigfoot, young
543
01:06:04.719 --> 01:06:15.000
male bigfoot came through and found them, and the young lady was found dead
544
01:06:15.280 --> 01:06:25.119
and the young man was killed also
very violently. And so that's why they
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01:06:25.119 --> 01:06:29.039
didn't leave you alone in the car, right yeah? That Oh wow,
546
01:06:33.199 --> 01:06:38.960
that's intense the Oklahoma. You don't
mess with Oklahoma for sure. No,
547
01:06:39.480 --> 01:06:48.519
no, wow. Did you guys
run into anything yourselves then in that area
548
01:06:48.840 --> 01:06:56.000
that was out of the ordinary or
right there in Brown Springs we heard a
549
01:06:56.000 --> 01:07:01.039
few things and found Prince, but
that was a about it. We had
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01:07:01.079 --> 01:07:09.119
to hurry back to camp, but
we were out there for a full week.
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01:07:10.079 --> 01:07:16.800
And whenever I was telling you about
Purgatory. Later that same night,
552
01:07:17.599 --> 01:07:24.039
we were on our way back home
or back to camp, and one of
553
01:07:24.079 --> 01:07:29.440
the guys in our convoy was having
problems with his truck, so we all
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01:07:29.480 --> 01:07:35.239
pulled over into the parking lot of
a casino on one of the reservations,
555
01:07:35.639 --> 01:07:42.000
and everyone else got out of their
trucks and they all were huddled around his
556
01:07:42.119 --> 01:07:47.800
truck looking under the hood, and
the four of us in our pickup truck
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01:07:48.519 --> 01:07:54.480
we just stayed there because we retired. My sister and I were sitting in
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01:07:54.519 --> 01:08:00.800
the back seat. I was sitting
behind the driver and my sister was sitting
559
01:08:00.840 --> 01:08:09.519
behind the passenger, Chuck Schlobs.
We were just sitting there and the driver
560
01:08:10.199 --> 01:08:14.199
he was just sitting there playing on
his phone, and my sister, she
561
01:08:14.400 --> 01:08:18.920
was doing the saying, just playing
on her phone. And Chuck and I
562
01:08:19.000 --> 01:08:23.680
were both a little bit more experienced, so we knew that it doesn't matter
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01:08:23.720 --> 01:08:29.520
where you're at, even in the
parking lot of a casino twelve thirty at
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01:08:29.640 --> 01:08:34.319
night, brightly lit parking lot,
you still stay alert. I was just
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01:08:35.239 --> 01:08:43.239
looking out the window. Here comes
a big foot running between the two buildings
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01:08:44.319 --> 01:08:51.119
across the brightly lit parking lot,
passed the pickup trucks across a four lane
567
01:08:51.199 --> 01:08:57.560
highway and into the woods on the
other side. Chuck, he said,
568
01:08:58.439 --> 01:09:03.479
did you see that? And I
said, yeah, I said, that
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01:09:03.640 --> 01:09:13.520
was a big foot and boy he
was run. Man, he was really
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01:09:13.880 --> 01:09:19.039
going fast right across that parking lot. Whenever I got back home, I
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01:09:19.119 --> 01:09:28.920
was able to figure out how fast
approximately he was running. And what I
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01:09:29.000 --> 01:09:33.880
was able to do was take point
A to point B where he came out
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01:09:34.520 --> 01:09:41.119
of between the buildings, to where
he disappeared into the woods. And I
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01:09:41.159 --> 01:09:47.680
took that distance along with the time
that both Chuck and I agreed on was
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01:09:47.720 --> 01:09:53.279
the amount of time that took him
to run from point A to point B,
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01:09:54.520 --> 01:09:59.800
which was about three seconds, and
so I was able to figure out
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he was running approximately fifty two miles
an hour. So you can pretty much
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figure why people think that they can
take a picture. You know, that
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they can whip their camera out real
fast and take a picture. Well,
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no, not unless you already have
it running and pointed at that area.
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That's about it. That is simply
wild. I want to make sure that
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we talk about we haven't really discussed
yet about you, how you're the founder
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of the Pennsylvania Bigfoot Project, and
I think that's really important. So can
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you tell me a little bit about
the history of the Pennsylvania Bigfoot Project,
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how that came into play, what
that is exactly, all that good stuff.
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Yes, thank you. Yeah,
I'm quite proud of my organization.
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Whenever I retired from my job in
twenty fourteen, I was able to devote
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time and energy into learning more about
the big Foot. That was whenever I
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was really able to start digging deeper
and get into it. And twenty fifteen
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I founded the group on Facebook,
but began as a discussion group, and
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it has morphed and changed. I'm
grown into almost eighteen thousand members now,
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and we have county chapters all over
Pennsylvania where I've set different people chapter leads
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to be in those counties to get
witness reports, to investigate Johnny on the
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spot whenever a report comes in that
they're there and that they are someone that
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the witnesses can talk to in person, a person who lives there, a
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person who knows the area, rather
than myself traveling all over Pennsylvania and not
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knowing areas and not being able to
get there for days, or a couple
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of weeks or something. It was
more a matter of need and wanting to
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help people that I formed this and
made it grow so much. We've got
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these county chapters, not quite in
every county, but I think we've got
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almost forty county chapters now and there's
I think some sixty counties in Pennsylvania.
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That's a lot going on with the
project. It is, and I'm quite
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proud of it and very proud of
my people, my chapter leads and the
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guys who are in charge of them, because I've just appointed a state director
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over the county chapters, because between
the organization itself and the county chapters,
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it was getting too much for me
alone to handle. So I appointed a
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friend of mine, Bob Walls,
as the state director over the county chapters,
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and God bless him. He's dedicated
and doing a great work. Do
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you have an actual live meet up
for the project ever? Yeah. We
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have campouts occasionally, and in fact
just last week last weekend, we had
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a campout available to all the members
over at Salt Fork State Park, which
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is in Ohio, Okay, and
we had a really good crowd despite the
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cold weather and rain and everything.
We had I think around sixty some people,
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which was a great turnout and had
a lot of a lot of things
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going on. There were a few
sightings, a lot of footprints that were
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casted, vocals, whistles and eyes
shine and structure and it was a fantastic
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weekend. It was. We like
to go there a lot because it is
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so active there, but this past
weekend it was off the charts was going
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on that sounds fantastic. Is that
as a project open to anyone that would
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to join that or what are the
requirements for joining the group? We are
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primarily on Facebook. We do have
a website Pennsylvania Bigfoot dot org, and
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but the website I think links the
Facebook group because that's where all the activity,
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that's where all the discussion, that's
where all the information is in the
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Facebook group. Unfortunately, and I
know there's a lot of people who don't
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really care for Facebook, and I
don't blame them a bit, but that's
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where I'm able to reach more people
and get the information out and gather information
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on there from people, from witnesses
and what we provide in our group.
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Though we are a little different from
other groups, we offer a safe place.
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I do not tolerate any type of
ridicule or harassment. And unfortunately,
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trolls will slip in now and then
and they'll make a little trouble, but
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as soon as we find out,
we boot them out immediately. We do
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not tolerate because a lot of these
witnesses they've suffered PTSD from their siting to
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begin with a lot of them,
and they'll share their stories with their family
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or their friends, and all they
get from them is ridicule from the people
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who should be supporting them. And
so a lot of them, we are
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the only people that they can share
with safely without the fear of ridicule,
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and I'm proud to say that we
do offer that for them. Yeah,
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I'm in the group as well,
and I can vouch that everything that you
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have said is one hundred percent true. It's an awesome place to be a
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part of. Definitely have the link
to that in the show notes. But
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yeah, you guys are doing some
awesome stuff with the Pennsylvania Bigfoot Project.
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But Mary, it has been a
super fun chat with you. Thank you
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so much for hanging out tonight.
Before we wrap things up, please,
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if there's anything else that you would
want to make sure that people know about
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what you're up to anything like that. Now you feel free to spend a
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few minutes talking about that right now, all right, please join the group
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if you're able to and share with
us, you know what, any encounters
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or experiences that you may have had. And even though your audience may not
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be in Pennsylvania, we have members
worldwide. Literally, We've got friends in
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Australia and Sweden and Scandinavia in general, and yeah, Russia, there's a
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few people from Russia. There's it's
a worldwide group. Even though we are
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Pennsylvania Bigfoot Project. We explore and
investigate all over the place. Like I
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said, I've been out to Oklahoma, down South, Canada, all over
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the place. But please join us
and talk about what's going on in any
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questions, go ahead and ask please
fantastic. Thank you so much for coming
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on, Mary, and will definitely
be checking back with you in the future
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to see what other things you have
gotten into with your research. All right,
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thank you. Become a supporting member
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encounter you would like to submit for
me to share on the podcast, please
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head on over to www dot Bigfoot
Society podcast dot com. There you'll find
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the Share your Bigfoot Encounter form a
little lower on the page, and please
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take a minute to share as many
details as you can. Please state if
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the encounter is anonymous or what name
you would like associated with the encounter,
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and as always, thanks for listening.
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The head is pointing one way and
the shoulders or front legs or the other
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way, and the back legs are
twisted this way. And it's quite gruesome
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and really obvious what killed it?
Because whatever had it had to a cat
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hands or opposable bumbs and twisting like
an old dish rag. Welcome back to
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Bigfoot Society. In this episode,
we talked to Mary Fabian about her years
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of being harassed by a big Foot
at her property and her time exploring Purgatory
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in Oklahoma, which is a very
extremely violent bigfoot area. Find out what
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happens this week only on the big
Foot Society podcast. All Right, Bigfoot
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Society, I've got the privilege of
talking to Marry Fabian from the Pennsylvania Bigfoot
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Project tonight. How's it going Mary, It's going great. Oh. I
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am excited to have you on tonight
and talk about your fifty years of bigfoot
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research experience. I was able to
get a copy of your book What I've
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Learned about Bigfoot fifty Years in County, and it is just it's fascinating.
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You have had stuff happened literally your
entire life. It's a great read.
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It's definitely going to be a link
for that in the show notes, so
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people can check that out. But
is there anything else that the listeners should
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know for context about you, Mary, besides that You've been into bigfoot a
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whole ton the book, it's fifty
years in counting. There were a few
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decades in there where I did not
have any Bigfoot experience. I was just
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in ther mom, housewife, etc. But whenever I did have an encounter
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a siding whenever I was a child. And then things picked up again after
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a couple of decades and I moved
into a certain area, and after that
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it's been boom. So let's start
back at the beginning. That's always the
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best place to start. What was
it that first got you into bigfoot?
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At the beginning, Mary, would
have been my first fighting, my first
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encounters. I was eleven years old
and just walking along a gasline and saw
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a big foot. And then later
on, maybe a couple of years later,
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we were camping, my family and
I were camping up in the mountains
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of southwestern Pennsylvania, and I had
encounters. I saw structures, tree structures,
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had rocks thrown at me, tree
limbs thrown at me. And I
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was just a kid. I had
no idea what was going on, what
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was doing it? Between that and
my sighting, it sparked a curiosity to
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learn and along with my dad talking
about the wild man or the hairy man,
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and he really didn't get too much
into it. I honestly have no
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idea if he had seen one or
not. He never specifically said if he
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had, but he did talk about
it, and that interest in the paranormal
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in general sparked as a teenager and
continued, and then later on in two
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thousand and four, whenever I remarried
and moved to Beaver County, Pennsylvania and
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started having some other bigfoot encounters and
experiences and sightings, that's whenever it was
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okay, let's learn more about Bigfoot
and just digging in and searching for other
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people really, and that was hard
searching for people in my area who were
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experiencing things. Also, no one
would talk, so I reached out a
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little bit further and found Facebook groups
and people on Facebook who were talking about
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it. But then what they were
experiencing really didn't match what I was and
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it honestly didn't make any sense.
But I did find a group of guys
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down south in Alabama. They were
scattered through the South and called the big
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Foot Outlaws. I joined their group, talked with them. This makes perfect
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sense what they were saying. It
matched what I was experiencing and learning and
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going through and what I knew about
that particular bigfoot who was coming around my
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home, because it was at that
time there was a big foot harassing me
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at my house. At my home, every time he would come around,
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I was learning more about him,
his behavior, how well to handle him
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in particular, and different things at
the timing and and so on. I
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make friends with the guys a big
Foot out Laws, and a few of
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them still remain friends now. And
one of those gentlemen is coun tho ye
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speaker, correct, that's correct.
Yes, he is. My mentor calls
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me every so often and he'll say, you want to come out to Oklahoma
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or somewhere and go on a research
trip, and I say, heck,
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yeah, all right, We're going
to talk about that later because that's gonna
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be amazing. But I wanted not
overly skip over the foundational stuff. There
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was a lot said in that intro
story, which is amazing. Thankfully,
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I've read your book, so I
know some of the details as well.
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Your first encount I believe is your
first encounter happened in summer of nineteen sixty
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seven, correct, that's correct?
Yes, was that in southwest Pennsylvania,
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Yes, Okay, Allegheny County.
Okay, Chestnut Ridge area nearby, not
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quite but near it, maybe a
little bit north of the It runs into
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Westmoreland and Fayette County in the south
of Pennsylvania and in southwestern Pennsylvania. And
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I was may be forty miles north
of there, but we did go into
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the Chestnut Ridge quite often. We
would camp there. Do you remember a
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lot about that first encounter when you
were eleven in nineteen sixty seven? The
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creature looked like what kind of thing
you were dealing with? Well, what
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happened was I was walking along a
gas line and I was going down a
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hill into a holler, and on
the opposite side there were woods on the
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right in a field overgrown with brush. On my left, the big foot
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came out of the woods to my
right and started across the trail that I
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was hiking on, and he just
stopped and looked at me. Now,
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at this time, I had never
heard about bigfoot, never seen or experienced
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anything about the only thing that I
knew about a big hairy creature. There
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was what I had seen on TV
about the Siberian snowman, and that was
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it. The yetti. Yeah,
that was all we knew at that time,
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and I had no idea what this
was. All I saw and thought
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was this is a big hairy man
wearing a fur coat in the middle of
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summer. And now he was big
and hairy, but he wasn't wearing a
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coat. He was the coat was
part of him. He was completely black.
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The details of his face, all
I can recall is that he had
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what I knew of as Neanderthal features, and that's about the only way that
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I could describe his features. He
didn't act mean towards me. He didn't
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act aggressive, he didn't do anything
threatening. He just stopped and looked at
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me, and then he just turned
and walked continued walking into the brush in
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the field opposite from us. It
made me wonder, okay, what was
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that about? And then but then
I continued on. But the thing is
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that encounter with this big hairy man
wearing a fur coat. It stuck in
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my memory, you know, for
decades, until I connected many years later
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as to what it actually was that
I had seen fascinating detail about that encounter,
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and I'm sure most listeners have made
the connection. But it's crazy how
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your first encounter took place a few
months before the Patterson Gimblin filming, you
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know, October of nineteen sixty seven, and years happened in the summer.
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So it makes sense how you would
say you didn't have that to fall back
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on as having seen because it wasn't
even filmed yet. No, do you
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remember the first time you saw that
film as a young child or maybe as
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a high schooler. Oh, I
really couldn't say exactly when I saw it.
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My sister and I would always go
to the movies, to the movie
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theater, and so it would have
had to have run between movies or something.
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I'm certain, but specifically when I
honestly couldn't tell you. Also,
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you mentioned that the creature had Neanderthal
features, and I found that very interesting.
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Could you describe exactly what you meant
by Neanderthal features. I would say
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that the heavy brow, the brow
ridge, but I think other than that,
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he had a lighter skin tone,
not quite Caucasian, maybe tanned,
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but lighter skin tone underneath the facial
hair, interesting. I've talked to a
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few people that have had sightings as
younger children. It's just it's amazing how
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it just it's burned into your memory
over the years, because I get a
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lot of feedback where people are like, oh, come on, people aren't
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going to wreck, They're not going
to remember something that happened to them when
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they're eleven. And I think if
you had something like that happened to you
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when you were ten or eleven,
you'd be remembering that because it's probably something
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that you would see when you close
your guys at night. It wasn't traumatic.
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It was just just something about it
that did stick of my memory,
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which honestly is strange, as you
would think, Oh, okay, I'm
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hiking along a path and running into
a woodsman or something while I'm hiking,
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and but no, this stuck.
It's stuck in my memory. Do you
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remember anything about its feet or were
you able to see it actually walk or
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move away from you at all,
anything like that. Yeah, I did
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watch him walk away, but honestly, I can't remember it. Wouldn't you
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be able to give you any specifics
about his walk? No problem? Unfortunately.
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I also find it interesting how you
mentioned that you've also been camping multiple
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times in the Chestnut Ridge area,
which some crazy stories have come out of
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that area over the years. Stand
Gordon, things like that, But oh
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yeah, did anything out of the
ordinary happen to you when you went camping
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in that Chestnut Ridge area of southwestern
Pennsylvania. Where we would camp was behind
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a French and Indian war fort that
George Washington had built back during before the
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Revolutionary War called Fort Necessity, and
there was a campground back behind the fort.
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The campground is no longer there right
now. It's picnic grounds, but
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really no one uses it. It's
pretty much deserted and overgrown. But at
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that time it was a beautiful campground
and it was packed during that period of
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time that was around let me think
sixty nine through seventy two. I'm thinking
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is whenever we would go up there
in camp, and every time we would
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go, first thing, right after
breakfast, I would jump out of the
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trailer or the camper and just run
out into the woods and go explore.
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I'd follow whatever game trails I could
find and just walk for miles and not
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return until right before dark, and
just exploring the whole mountain, which was
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great. I loved it up there. But the only unusual thing though,
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that would happen would be that I
would run into these strange what we know
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now as tree structures. But whenever
I saw them back then, I could
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tell that they were unusual, that
they were not natural, that they were
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logs and tree limbs deliberately placed in
an intricate pattern. It was obvious even
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to a kid. Occasionally around those
structures, I would be hiking and the
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rocks would be thrown at me,
or tree limbs would get thrown at me.
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I took it as okay, I'm
trespassing onto somebody's territory, and so
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I would just put up my hands
and say, okay, I'm going to
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turn around and I'm going to go
back. Apparently I wasn't wanted there.
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You got to respect someone's territory.
Yeah, because at that point you're not
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even thinking of oh this is bigfoot. You're just like someone I better be
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cautious because someone is not happy with
me. I think that's a smart move
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what you did as a younger person
there. You run into some My mother
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was from West Virginia and she had
hailed Billy relatives. Yeah, you gotta
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be careful of others territory. Who
knows what you'll stumble upon out in the
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woods for sure. Oh man,
I would love to fast forward a bit
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to where you're saying that there's a
point where you're starting to get harassed by
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a big foot. I'm curious what
it means to be harassed by a creature
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like that. What exactly is happening? Well, in two thousand and four,
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I remarried and moved about forty miles
north of where I previously he lived,
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and up into Beaver County with my
husband and his home, and just
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about immediately activity would start, something
would beat on the wall right behind my
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head where I was laying in bed
sleeping, And the first time that happened,
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I heard the single pound whack on
the wall right behind my head,
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and then I heard a garbled,
strange garbled language, something talking, two
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creatures talking to each other. And
that's what we know now as the samurai
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chatter. Whatever I heard Ron Moorehead's
recordings that I recognized it as being samurai
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chatter. It was just that when
a very deep, gravelly voice was similar
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to that, whenever I would be
sleeping, something would like every two two
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and a half to three weeks,
something would come around and whack the wall
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if I was asleep right behind my
head, or else if I was awake
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and sitting out in the family room
watching TV. It would come up to
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the patio door and peek in the
windows and so on. But initially I
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wouldn't see it, and I wouldn't
be aware of it. My dog would
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let me know that it was there. Now, I'm not certain if I
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had sent you a photo of her
or not, but she would lay by
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that backdoor constantly, always watching out
that backdoor. And now I know why.
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That was her at her guard post, always watching for him whenever he
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would come around. But the way
she would react really upset me. As
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to how she would react, that
is, but she would react in a
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specific way that was just frankly terrified. We had gotten her from a rescue.
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She was a border collie, and
we were very slowly getting her back
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into gaining confidence in herself and gaining
her voice and being happy around humans,
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us as her family. But whenever
he would come by, if she would
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be laying there at the door,
facing the door, and she would give
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a very soft mixture of a soft
growl and a wine very soft. Her
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hackles would go up and her tail
tucked and she would crawl backwards until she
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was huddled up against my legs,
just shaky in fear, just total terror.
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And this would go on and every
time he would come around, and
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of course at first it would freak
me out. What's going on? What's
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scaring her? Because she wasn't afraid
of anything that would come around the yard.
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I thought, I'm not going to
put up with this, whatever's going
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on. I would bring my pistol
and put it next to me, and
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thinking, okay, whatever's out there, let's see what's going on. But
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at first I wouldn't go out to
see. But after a while I figured
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out what it was because I think
the one time I had seen him peeking
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up over the wall at me,
I was out in the backyard and I
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saw him. He was just looking. All I saw was head and shoulders
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up, and she was The sun
was right behind him, so he was
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silhouetted. I couldn't make out any
features, but all I could see was
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his hair, which was a beautiful
golden red reddish gold color and sparkling in
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the sunshine. It was very pretty, but whenever I saw him, I
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wagged my finger at him. I
said, I see usob and he ducked
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his head down and hurried away.
But after that, the next time that
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he came around and would terrify her, I just I just snapped. I
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was angry, to say the least, and I jumped up, ran out
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the door, grabbed a golf club
that I had sitting there, and I
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ran out the door after him,
chasing after him and calling them names,
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and don't you come around anymore,
you big bully. And I was just
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angry because he was buying my dog
and I wasn't going to put up with
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that. It's never fun when something
you love gets bullied. For sure,
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I can understand that. Did things
get better for you after you reacted like
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that or did they get worse?
Well? He still came around, ye,
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the same as usual. Yeah.
The thing was, at first we
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had security lights in the back the
house that were motion sensitive. They would
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trigger whenever an animal come through the
yard. And every so often I would
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go out there and I would see
that they had been moved so they wouldn't
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trigger, and I would tell my
husband and I would say, why do
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you keep moving these lights? I
need these two point out so they'll trigger
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or whenever this sob comes around.
He told me he'd never moved them.
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We lived in a ranch home.
It was a low ranch home, so
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for an eight foot creature, they
were easily reachable. And what he would
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do he would come up alongside the
house, just huddle it up against the
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house, and then reach up and
move it. That's what I figure that
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he did so it wouldn't alert me. There was no light that would come
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on to alert me about the only
thing that alerted being was my dog.
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Did you ever find any tracks around
the house? Not around the house?
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The ground was very hard and not
good ground around the house. But I
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did find tracks on the hill behind
the house. There was a game trail
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that cut down above the house.
I followed it up the hill and I
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found a few tracks, and I
sent those to you. Also, those
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tracks, though they were smaller,
maybe nine to ten inches long, they
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weren't full adult ones. Those were
juveniles. So apparently that was a nursery
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upon the hill. On the other
side of that hill was the Beaver River,
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a very deep river valley, very
steep hills. There's old mines along
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there, old caves, that you'd
have to be a real mountain climber to
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get down there into those, so
I never got down into there. Remind
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me, you still at that residence
then, or you at a different place
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now. Yeah, we moved in
twenty sixteen, so that went on for
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twelve years, and we moved a
little bit further out in the country and
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we built a new home here.
And while we were building the home,
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I would check around the foundation,
and yeah, I found footprints around the
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foundation. I found structures, so
I knew they were around here. But
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fortunately they don't bother us here.
They ignore me, which is no problem
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with me. I tried my dog
on not to dry their attention. Do
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you ever hear any vocalizations or anything
out else sound wise that would make you
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think they're in the area as well? Yeah, yeah, I hear vocals
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late at night whenever I take We
have another dog now, the one we
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had at the other house she passed
away, but we have another Border Collie
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now. I'll take her out late
at night and I'll hear vocals, not
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constantly, just especially in the early
part of the year round March February March.
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I'll hear vocals later on in the
summer, like into the early fall,
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I'll hear more vocals and usually that's
a high pitched call or whistle.
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What they'll do and what I here
is a whistle. And then I'll hear
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the coyotes start yapping. And then
all of a sudden, you hear a
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sound yep, and a coyote has
been killed. Wow. Yeah, you
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really think that he's just probably getting
annoyed and time to take it, time
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to show him whose boss. Maybe
I don't know it's possible or else.
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They hunt them for for the organ
meat before the spring greens come up.
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They'll they'll go after whatever game that
they're catching, and they'll usually eat the
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organ meat for the rich proteins.
And yeah, because we were in Tennessee
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with Combo and the Outlaws back in
seventeen and one of one of the people
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in our party found at coyote that
a big foot had killed and it was
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very obvious that what had killed it, because this coyote was literally twisted like
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a pretzel. That is so interesting. I've talked to a gentleman in Montana.
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There was an experience where I believe
it was a grizzly that had its
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next snapped. Obviously, it had
to be something with hands, and it
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sounds like you encountered something similar on
a smaller form. Yeah, it's like
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I said, the head is pointing
one way in the shoulders or front legs
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or the other and the back legs
or twisted this way. And it's quite
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gruesome and really obvious. What killed
it? Because whatever had it had to
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tad hands or opposable thumbs and twisting
like an old dish rag. Next questions
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might get a little bit intense,
so listeners be advised. I am really
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curious. Was it just twisted and
left there or did it actually eat parts
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of you could tell, Okay,
this part is missing because it was eaten
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by the creature anything. I thought, No, it was it was just
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twisted and left there after it was
killed. I don't think the people who
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found it were able to I don't
think they looked deeply enough to see if
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it had been if any organs or
anything had been removed. I don't think
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so, going by the photo,
because she did take a photo of it,
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and I've studied that photo quite deeply, and I don't see any sign
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of any cuts or bite marks or
anything. It's just twisted. Makes you
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almost wonder if it was to send
a message if there's these sasquatch, coyote
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pack warring factions in some areas of
the US. Who knows, that's me
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imagining, but that would be wild. Has there ever been a point when
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you're out doing field research and something
happens that you're like, this is just
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a little bit too intense that I
don't really want to be where I am
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right now. I'd rather be back
home with my dog. Oh yeah.
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Occasionally I'll go into an area,
like a few years ago, there's a
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park near here, maybe half an
hour from me, Moraine State Park,
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and I was hiking along a trail
and just all of a sudden, it's
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a feeling of intense danger. Just
stop, don't go any further. That
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it just hit me all of a
sudden, and so I thought to myself,
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Okay, I respect this. I'm
not going any further. So I
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what I did do, though,
I stopped and took a series of photos
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with my camera in a one eighty
degree arc too possibly capture something there.
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And then I left And a little
bit later on I was able to study
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those photos and I possibly had caught
something up in a tree. I'm not
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certain. It's very pixelated. I
see a face that could possibly be a
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primate looking face. I'm not saying
it was a small one or not.
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I don't know, but I caught
something there. Wow. Very interesting.
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When people ask Mary what is bigfoot? What is your answer to that?
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I go by science and evidence and
doctor Melbae Ketchum's DNA or genome project,
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and from my own observations of primate
behavior, A mixture between gorilla, chimpanzee,
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and human something in between there is
what I have observed. And and
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then doctor Ketchum's DNA tests they showed
non human primate human, and then something
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else which she identified as nephelum.
And a little bit later on I was
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able, at least in my mind, I confirmed to myself that the nephelum
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DNA is there, primarily because a
trip that I had taken out to Oklahoma
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with Cumbo and a bunch of other
researchers. Cumbo was experimenting with what's called
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a show far. It's like a
curved horn. Correct, Yeah, it's
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a ram's horn, and the Hebrews
used it in celebration in victory. In
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war, Joshua used it whenever he
was marching around the walls of Jericho to
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bring the walls of Jericho down,
which kind of tells you something. They're
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also the frequency the blast, constant
blast in a certain frequency, the power
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that has and the specific show far
that Kumbo had was a I'm not going
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to say what kind it was because
I honestly can't remember, but it was
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a specific type and whenever he would
blow it, they wouldn't respond all the
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time. It was only whenever Cumbo
was able to reach a certain range on
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that horn on the show far.
In that certain range, that's whenever they
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would respond. I know the one
night we were in an area that we
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nicknamed Purgatory, we were down there. It's a historic area with some violent
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history between Bigfoot and other cryptids and
humans. Pretty dangerous area that it just
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gave up really bad vibes whenever we
were down there. But while we were
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there, this was around midnight,
Combo blew the show far and he was
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able to reach that certain frequency,
and we got a response from three different
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Bigfoot through different directions from a couple
of miles out. One roared and the
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other one roar from miles away in
another direction. And another one roared from
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another direction, and then they would
roar again and you could tell they were
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getting closer. They were coming in
pretty hot and fast, roaring all the
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way, and they were not happy. And then you could tell they were
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coming in on us. And thank
god, we had a pretty pretty good
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sized group of about fourteen researchers.
We had about seven pickup trucks in there
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that we were standing around, and
whenever the bigfoot came in, the three
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of them, they stopped about fifty
yards out and they were back behind some
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brush and trees, but we could
see shadows, we could see their eyes
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shine and everything, and hear little
things now and then told us where they
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were. That was a pretty hairy
night. But what they did, though,
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like I said, they stopped,
and the feeling that I got was
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that they were waiting. They were
waiting for a further signal or something else,
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to do something else, I don't
know. But whenever that signal didn't
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come, they just went away,
and you know, we knew that they
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weren't there anymore. And it was
like, Wow, there's a lot to
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impact from that. That's a that's
intense, Mary. It was, Yes,
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it was very intense. My older
sister was with us, and she
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had never had a bigfoot experience before. That was the first one for her.
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That was, to tell you the
truth, she was completely unaware.
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She was in the back of the
truck, too afraid to come out no
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matter where we were. And I
think she was just in there, either
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sleeping or playing on her phone.
Oh my god. But my thought was
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always I had to stay by the
truck to protect her. And I don't
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know what I could have done,
but I'm going to ask. I'm going
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to ask some questions, and you're
welcome to decline them. Was that in
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southeast Oklahoma? Yes? Was that
in Lafloora County? To be honest,
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I don't know what county that way
in? That's all right? No?
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Oh no, that was not.
Yeah, okay, man, that sounds
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wild. Why do you think they
responded to the horn like that? But
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their nephelum DNA they would have to
for listeners that aren't overly familiar with religious
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texts. Can you describe in I
don't know if you have an easy way
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to describe exactly when you think of
a naphelum. What we're dealing with naphelum
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is the you look back in Genesis
in the Old Testament, and I know
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there's people who don't believe in the
Bible who think of it as fairy tale.
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But and then there's other people who
look at it as a history book,
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which it is. It's a history
book as well as religious text.
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The nephelum were the product of a
mating between fallen angels, angels who disobeyed
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God and came down to Earth and
mate it with women, human women,
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and what the women for was the
nephelum. And so the nephelum they have
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angelic DNA along with the human DNA, which doctor Ketchum was able to identify.
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People have asked me, how do
you know, Yah, where did
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she get nephel m dna? How
can you identify nephel m DNA? A
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friend of mine and totally different conversation
told me that whenever they went to get
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testing done, their doctor told them
that they had nephel m DNA. Okay,
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I will not go further than that. Yeah, I mean that there's
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some stories there, but they probably
won't be shared. I'm guessing. Wow,
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I'm just going to ask you can
decline, so what it was for
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a regular medical visit or for testing
of a bigfoot hair. No, it
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was medical or medical reasons, are
you kid? Yes? That's intense.
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Wow and the doctor just busted that
out. Oh man, wow, you
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know that they have nephil m DNA. Wow. Do you think then there's
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some bigfoot that are half Nephelim or
they're actually Nephelim and we're calling them bigfoot
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or what do you think about that? There's some people that have encounters where
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it's a physical creature and they have
just regular Bigfoot encounters wipe you can call
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it regular. And then there's other
people who describe their encounters as being more
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in the paranormal range, where they
say the Bigfoot hopped through portals or they
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come in on the mist and they
do strange magical things. Now, whenever
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I hear those stories, my mind
goes to the demonic rather than the physical
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bigfoot, because the Bigfoot who hopped
through portals and what they call inner dimensionals,
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the things that they do around these
people border on demonic quite frankly.
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And I've warned a friend of mine
about what was going on, and I
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told her, you've invited them onto
your property. Unfortunately, you're going to
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have to do something to get them
away, perhaps speak with a medium or
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something who can help you. How
does one invite a bigfoot onto their property?
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You think that they're bigfoot, and
you think, oh, how wonderful.
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I'm going to have a relationship with
these wonderful creatures, and that's your
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first clue. Relationship on a normal
basis, you're not going to have a
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relationship friends going up and shaking their
hands or greeting them or talking to them
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and have them talk to you.
That's not going to happen unless they are
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on that other demonic side. Do
you think there can be ever situations where
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let's say you have your house,
you have some acres of land, and
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you have bigfoot living there as well. Can there ever be situations like that
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where it's an act like there's a
happy ending or will it always end up
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in you don't want to leave out
food for them type deal with the flesh
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and blood bigfoot that I've had my
experiences with. Yeah, they just want
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to be left alone. They want
to be respected, they want their territory
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to be respected. They want to
raise their families and just be left in
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peace. They don't want a relationship. They just want to be left alone.
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And sometimes occasionally you'll run into a
nasty one who like the one who
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came around my house, you know, who just wants to play games and
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because they're bored or whatever. And
that's usually the young males don't come around
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and like teenagers, they're bored.
But once they get older, no,
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they just want to be left alone. But I highly advise anyone never ever
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put food out. You don't want
to do that. Let's say there's a
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listener where they've been putting food out
and they've noticed some weird stuff. Is
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there anything they can do to get
out of that situation or is it just
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buckle up for the ride. You
may want to move. Yeah, once
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you begin and they start taking food
on a regular basis, you're pretty much
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stuck. Because if you stop,
they will act very vindictively. They may
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come into your home, and they
have been known to come into homes looking
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for food. They'll kill your pets, your livestock. Whenever you do something
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like that, it's endangering your pets, your livestock, your family, your
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neighbors. It's a dangerous situation that
I cannot emphasize enough that once people start
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it, don't stop. Because that's
whenever they'll start destroying things. But even
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then, they still may come into
your home looking for food. Have you
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heard reports of that actually happening where
they will come into your home as they
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get more used to the area and
I'm going to find more food. Yeah,
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yeah, I've heard quite a few
stories about that. Bear will do
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the same. You start feeding bears. Yeah, they'll come in. They'll
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come in looking for more food.
They'll break into homes that they break into
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vehicles. It's dangerous. People have
talked to me about it, asking what
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they can do, and I just
advise them to there's really not much you
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can do. You may the mistake
of starting, you honestly can't stop.
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Just beware, watch guard your house, scarred your family. It's a bad
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situation. I've known a few people
who have moved away. Wow, it's
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trying to escape that. But then
the thing is, whoever purchases their home
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have now been put into a dangerous
situation that they have no knowledge of what's
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going on. Yeah, surprise.
Have you ever talked to a person where
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it's I have no idea what's going
on. I moved into this house and
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I am just getting passed up by
something. I have no idea what's going
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on here. Yeah, I've spoken
with a few people. One one person
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that I spoke with figured it out
fairly quickly what was going on. His
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daughter. I think his little girl
was maybe ten years old something like that.
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Yeah, she was in a lot
of danger and he was able to
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do a few things to keep them
at least have a mutual respect somewhat that
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they wouldn't come near the house anymore. But that was through a series of
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using on a daily basis. Practically, I told him, you start doing
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target practicing in your yard. Let
them know that you're armed and wear it
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whenever you're outside. Let them know
that you have it on you, along
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with a few other things that you
can try. But yeah, nothing is
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one hundred percent. As far as
I know, he's still on guard.
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And this has been about I think
around ten years now that we first started
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talking about it. Is that Pennsylvania
too, No, he was in Midwest
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somewhere. I didn't know exactly where. If you say, Iowa, I'm
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just going to just freak out and
lock on my doors, That's where I'm
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at. Oh, Okay, Yeah, I honestly don't know where to stake.
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But yeah, they are in Iowa. Oh really, Oh yes,
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yeah, Boombo was there a few
years ago. Yeah, he was there.
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Sorry, I know a bigfooter in
Iowa. But it's just interesting.
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I'm curious. What have you heard. Yeah, and a friend of mine
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went out. Oh I wish I
knew what specific area of Iowa he was
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in a I'd have to look at
my notes to see where it was.
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But he was talking about that he
found sign they potentially ran into one.
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While one of the women was in
a restroom at the campground. Something came
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around the side of the bathroom where
she could see through the louvers, big
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hairy feet and they heard tree knocks
and vocals and found prints and a lot
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of other sign But I'll have to
look at my notes again to see what
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area of Iowa they were in.
I think I need to have a chat
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with mister Kombo, not talk to
him on big foot societies. We're going
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to need to make that happen for
sure. Yeah, going back to the
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Nephelum for just a minute. So
when you go out and you're going to
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research an area where there's been a
bigfoot scene or something like that, do
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you have in your mind then that
okay, I could be dealing with and
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undiscovered grade ape, or this could
be a nephelum in something highly dangerous,
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or is it a thing where a
certain areas of the country you may have
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the one happening than the other.
Initially, my mind is on the physical
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plush and blood bigfoot. That's what
I search for. I have not run
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into the other type yet, and
I hope not to. Along with dog
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man. I've not run into a
dog man yet, and I don't want
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to. That's not something I've et
any interest in exploring or looking for.
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I'll look up, you know,
history of the area to see if there's
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other sighting reports. Whenever I go
into an area to see what's going on,
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I'll look at a map. Google
Earth is a great resource and you
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can really zoom in into areas to
see features along with a topographical map where
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you can see elevations and see the
curvatures of where hillsides and deep valleys are.
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It helps whenever you're big footing to
know these topographical features, because there's
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certain areas where they seem to hang
out a little bit more than others.
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I look for water ways, primarily
rivers, or creeks, ponds or lakes
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also, but running water more like
crakes. I think they seem to prefer
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a little bit more, but they
will hang around the lakes. Also,
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was reading a report by the NAWAC
out of Area X. It's very interesting
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how doctor Russ Jones pointed this out
to how it almost seems if you find
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an area with a certain amount of
annual rainfall above I want to say,
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like thirty five inches, have you
found that to be true as well?
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You just stated that you found similarities
over the years, But have you found
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that if the area gets more rain
it could be more fruitful or any thoughts
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about that? I have found that. And Coombo also did a study on
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I think what he did was a
study on the numbers of bigfoot in different
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areas, and different areas are much
more conducive to having a higher population of
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bigfoot in them, and it would
be areas with a higher instance of rainfall.
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And fortunately, Western Pennsylvania is an
area like that. We do get
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a high amount of rainfall. Maybe
not quite as much as the Pacific Northwest,
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but but we do get a pretty
good amount. And along with the
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South the southern US. But then
even then the dryer states like Oklahoma and
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Texas, certain areas of it there
there is higher populations of them and a
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higher number of them in certain areas. Oklahoma is funny because yeah is dry.
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But if you look on a map, that's southeast corner sure gets a
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lot of rain. It does.
Watchita Mountains, it's party time for sure.
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We found pretty pretty could have mounted
there. And where we were we
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camped in the Chickasaw National Recreationciation Area
and oh my, if you're in the
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big footing, go there. It's
a fantastic area. It really is.
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The residents, the long time residents
who talk about the big Foot, they
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say, the old people they used
to go around. They would sit by
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the lake and just watch the big
Foot playing on the other side of the
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lake, just for fun. Yeah, it's a fantastic area there. And
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along the border, the Texas Oklahoma
border, along the Red River, we
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were along there in another infamy,
this area called Brown Springs. It was
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pretty creepy. There a lot of
weird things going on there. I've not
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heard about Brown Springs, and that
might be just I'm still under five years
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in this subject, so I'm not
to the fifty that you're at. But
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I've heard of area X. I've
heard of other places in Oklahoma, but
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I haven't heard of Brown Springs.
Would you be able to share a little
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bit info about that Brown Springs?
A little bit of history about that area
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is apparently it was a high amount
of murders in the area. I don't
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know if it was mafia or what, I honestly don't recall, but there
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was a high amount of murders and
bodies found in the area as well.
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Is bigfoot being there. There's a
graveyard up on the hill that a lot
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of ghost hunters will go to and
they'll find a lot of I'm not in
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the ghost hunting, but apparently it's
a good spot for ghost hunting. But
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the bigfoot around there are a little
more aggressive. The one place that we
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were at, it was very steep
and rutted to get up on the hill.
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And I'm disabled now I can't walk
or hike like I used to.
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I said, I'll just stay in
the truck and while the rest of you
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go up there. And the guy
said, you know you're coming up.
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If we have to carry you,
you're coming up. You're not going to
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TV alone down here. So I
said, okay, so I got a
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couple of hiking sticks and hobbled my
way up. But it's an area that
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also Cumbo has told a story about
where a No, I don't know exactly
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what year this happened, but apparently
an FBI agent had contacted him and sent
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him photos and was consulting with him
about a about two bodies. He wanted
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to know if if Cumbo would have
any idea if this was bigfoot related or
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not. There was a a young
couple had who had driven into this area
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around Brown Springs and they were parking, but apparently a few bigfoot, young
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01:06:04.719 --> 01:06:15.000
male bigfoot came through and found them, and the young lady was found dead
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and the young man was killed also
very violently. And so that's why they
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didn't leave you alone in the car, right yeah? That Oh wow,
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that's intense the Oklahoma. You don't
mess with Oklahoma for sure. No,
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no, wow. Did you guys
run into anything yourselves then in that area
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that was out of the ordinary or
right there in Brown Springs we heard a
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few things and found Prince, but
that was a about it. We had
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to hurry back to camp, but
we were out there for a full week.
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And whenever I was telling you about
Purgatory. Later that same night,
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we were on our way back home
or back to camp, and one of
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the guys in our convoy was having
problems with his truck, so we all
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pulled over into the parking lot of
a casino on one of the reservations,
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01:07:35.639 --> 01:07:42.000
and everyone else got out of their
trucks and they all were huddled around his
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01:07:42.119 --> 01:07:47.800
truck looking under the hood, and
the four of us in our pickup truck
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we just stayed there because we retired. My sister and I were sitting in
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01:07:54.519 --> 01:08:00.800
the back seat. I was sitting
behind the driver and my sister was sitting
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01:08:00.840 --> 01:08:09.519
behind the passenger, Chuck Schlobs.
We were just sitting there and the driver
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01:08:10.199 --> 01:08:14.199
he was just sitting there playing on
his phone, and my sister, she
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01:08:14.400 --> 01:08:18.920
was doing the saying, just playing
on her phone. And Chuck and I
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01:08:19.000 --> 01:08:23.680
were both a little bit more experienced, so we knew that it doesn't matter
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01:08:23.720 --> 01:08:29.520
where you're at, even in the
parking lot of a casino twelve thirty at
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night, brightly lit parking lot,
you still stay alert. I was just
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01:08:35.239 --> 01:08:43.239
looking out the window. Here comes
a big foot running between the two buildings
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across the brightly lit parking lot,
passed the pickup trucks across a four lane
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01:08:51.199 --> 01:08:57.560
highway and into the woods on the
other side. Chuck, he said,
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01:08:58.439 --> 01:09:03.479
did you see that? And I
said, yeah, I said, that
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was a big foot and boy he
was run. Man, he was really
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01:09:13.880 --> 01:09:19.039
going fast right across that parking lot. Whenever I got back home, I
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01:09:19.119 --> 01:09:28.920
was able to figure out how fast
approximately he was running. And what I
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01:09:29.000 --> 01:09:33.880
was able to do was take point
A to point B where he came out
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01:09:34.520 --> 01:09:41.119
of between the buildings, to where
he disappeared into the woods. And I
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01:09:41.159 --> 01:09:47.680
took that distance along with the time
that both Chuck and I agreed on was
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01:09:47.720 --> 01:09:53.279
the amount of time that took him
to run from point A to point B,
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which was about three seconds, and
so I was able to figure out
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he was running approximately fifty two miles
an hour. So you can pretty much
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figure why people think that they can
take a picture. You know, that
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01:10:15.600 --> 01:10:18.720
they can whip their camera out real
fast and take a picture. Well,
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01:10:19.600 --> 01:10:28.439
no, not unless you already have
it running and pointed at that area.
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That's about it. That is simply
wild. I want to make sure that
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we talk about we haven't really discussed
yet about you, how you're the founder
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of the Pennsylvania Bigfoot Project, and
I think that's really important. So can
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you tell me a little bit about
the history of the Pennsylvania Bigfoot Project,
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01:10:50.399 --> 01:10:56.680
how that came into play, what
that is exactly, all that good stuff.
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01:10:57.000 --> 01:11:00.479
Yes, thank you. Yeah,
I'm quite proud of my organization.
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Whenever I retired from my job in
twenty fourteen, I was able to devote
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01:11:10.960 --> 01:11:16.520
time and energy into learning more about
the big Foot. That was whenever I
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01:11:16.600 --> 01:11:27.119
was really able to start digging deeper
and get into it. And twenty fifteen
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01:11:27.239 --> 01:11:33.319
I founded the group on Facebook,
but began as a discussion group, and
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it has morphed and changed. I'm
grown into almost eighteen thousand members now,
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and we have county chapters all over
Pennsylvania where I've set different people chapter leads
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to be in those counties to get
witness reports, to investigate Johnny on the
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01:12:08.279 --> 01:12:15.640
spot whenever a report comes in that
they're there and that they are someone that
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01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:19.840
the witnesses can talk to in person, a person who lives there, a
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01:12:19.880 --> 01:12:29.680
person who knows the area, rather
than myself traveling all over Pennsylvania and not
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01:12:29.840 --> 01:12:33.319
knowing areas and not being able to
get there for days, or a couple
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01:12:33.319 --> 01:12:41.279
of weeks or something. It was
more a matter of need and wanting to
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01:12:41.319 --> 01:12:51.279
help people that I formed this and
made it grow so much. We've got
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01:12:51.319 --> 01:13:00.439
these county chapters, not quite in
every county, but I think we've got
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01:13:00.479 --> 01:13:09.319
almost forty county chapters now and there's
I think some sixty counties in Pennsylvania.
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01:13:09.720 --> 01:13:15.600
That's a lot going on with the
project. It is, and I'm quite
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01:13:15.640 --> 01:13:24.760
proud of it and very proud of
my people, my chapter leads and the
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01:13:26.199 --> 01:13:31.319
guys who are in charge of them, because I've just appointed a state director
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01:13:31.319 --> 01:13:41.319
over the county chapters, because between
the organization itself and the county chapters,
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01:13:41.359 --> 01:13:47.359
it was getting too much for me
alone to handle. So I appointed a
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01:13:47.359 --> 01:13:54.880
friend of mine, Bob Walls,
as the state director over the county chapters,
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01:13:55.079 --> 01:14:00.880
and God bless him. He's dedicated
and doing a great work. Do
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01:14:00.920 --> 01:14:09.239
you have an actual live meet up
for the project ever? Yeah. We
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01:14:09.319 --> 01:14:18.000
have campouts occasionally, and in fact
just last week last weekend, we had
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01:14:18.039 --> 01:14:26.359
a campout available to all the members
over at Salt Fork State Park, which
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01:14:26.399 --> 01:14:31.720
is in Ohio, Okay, and
we had a really good crowd despite the
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01:14:31.960 --> 01:14:38.000
cold weather and rain and everything.
We had I think around sixty some people,
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01:14:39.000 --> 01:14:45.319
which was a great turnout and had
a lot of a lot of things
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01:14:45.359 --> 01:14:51.520
going on. There were a few
sightings, a lot of footprints that were
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01:14:51.600 --> 01:15:02.600
casted, vocals, whistles and eyes
shine and structure and it was a fantastic
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01:15:02.720 --> 01:15:08.640
weekend. It was. We like
to go there a lot because it is
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01:15:08.680 --> 01:15:14.960
so active there, but this past
weekend it was off the charts was going
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01:15:15.039 --> 01:15:21.800
on that sounds fantastic. Is that
as a project open to anyone that would
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01:15:24.359 --> 01:15:30.640
to join that or what are the
requirements for joining the group? We are
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01:15:30.760 --> 01:15:42.359
primarily on Facebook. We do have
a website Pennsylvania Bigfoot dot org, and
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01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:51.119
but the website I think links the
Facebook group because that's where all the activity,
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01:15:51.159 --> 01:15:58.359
that's where all the discussion, that's
where all the information is in the
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01:15:58.479 --> 01:16:02.840
Facebook group. Unfortunately, and I
know there's a lot of people who don't
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01:16:02.880 --> 01:16:10.239
really care for Facebook, and I
don't blame them a bit, but that's
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01:16:10.359 --> 01:16:19.319
where I'm able to reach more people
and get the information out and gather information
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01:16:20.560 --> 01:16:29.279
on there from people, from witnesses
and what we provide in our group.
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01:16:29.399 --> 01:16:35.279
Though we are a little different from
other groups, we offer a safe place.
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01:16:36.720 --> 01:16:45.640
I do not tolerate any type of
ridicule or harassment. And unfortunately,
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01:16:45.479 --> 01:16:50.319
trolls will slip in now and then
and they'll make a little trouble, but
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01:16:50.439 --> 01:16:56.720
as soon as we find out,
we boot them out immediately. We do
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01:16:56.800 --> 01:17:06.520
not tolerate because a lot of these
witnesses they've suffered PTSD from their siting to
633
01:17:06.640 --> 01:17:14.439
begin with a lot of them,
and they'll share their stories with their family
634
01:17:14.680 --> 01:17:19.479
or their friends, and all they
get from them is ridicule from the people
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01:17:19.520 --> 01:17:26.720
who should be supporting them. And
so a lot of them, we are
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01:17:26.760 --> 01:17:32.399
the only people that they can share
with safely without the fear of ridicule,
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01:17:33.000 --> 01:17:39.680
and I'm proud to say that we
do offer that for them. Yeah,
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01:17:39.800 --> 01:17:44.800
I'm in the group as well,
and I can vouch that everything that you
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01:17:44.840 --> 01:17:47.600
have said is one hundred percent true. It's an awesome place to be a
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01:17:47.600 --> 01:17:51.279
part of. Definitely have the link
to that in the show notes. But
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01:17:51.760 --> 01:17:59.000
yeah, you guys are doing some
awesome stuff with the Pennsylvania Bigfoot Project.
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01:17:59.119 --> 01:18:03.000
But Mary, it has been a
super fun chat with you. Thank you
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01:18:03.039 --> 01:18:10.039
so much for hanging out tonight.
Before we wrap things up, please,
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01:18:10.239 --> 01:18:14.760
if there's anything else that you would
want to make sure that people know about
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01:18:14.760 --> 01:18:18.800
what you're up to anything like that. Now you feel free to spend a
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01:18:18.840 --> 01:18:26.079
few minutes talking about that right now, all right, please join the group
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01:18:26.119 --> 01:18:32.439
if you're able to and share with
us, you know what, any encounters
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01:18:32.640 --> 01:18:40.399
or experiences that you may have had. And even though your audience may not
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01:18:40.560 --> 01:18:45.760
be in Pennsylvania, we have members
worldwide. Literally, We've got friends in
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01:18:46.039 --> 01:18:58.399
Australia and Sweden and Scandinavia in general, and yeah, Russia, there's a
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01:18:58.399 --> 01:19:04.119
few people from Russia. There's it's
a worldwide group. Even though we are
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01:19:04.239 --> 01:19:14.680
Pennsylvania Bigfoot Project. We explore and
investigate all over the place. Like I
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01:19:14.680 --> 01:19:19.800
said, I've been out to Oklahoma, down South, Canada, all over
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01:19:19.840 --> 01:19:29.800
the place. But please join us
and talk about what's going on in any
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01:19:29.880 --> 01:19:36.079
questions, go ahead and ask please
fantastic. Thank you so much for coming
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01:19:36.119 --> 01:19:42.119
on, Mary, and will definitely
be checking back with you in the future
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01:19:42.319 --> 01:19:46.319
to see what other things you have
gotten into with your research. All right,
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01:19:46.399 --> 01:19:50.600
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01:20:04.079 --> 01:20:09.279
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01:20:19.720 --> 01:20:25.920
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