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At 11 years old, Antonio and his best friend were walking home through familiar woods along the Southwick–Westfield border in Western Massachusetts when massive bipedal footsteps began closing in through dense brush.


The movement stopped within 10–15 feet. A deep guttural growl followed, and both boys suddenly found themselves unable to move. As they escaped toward a nearby house, Antonio looked back and saw an enormous black figure standing beside the only light pole in the area.

Antonio shares the encounter he carried privately for nearly 15 years, the recurring screams and wood knocks that followed, and how that night permanently changed his relationship with the woods.

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And if it would have came any further, we would

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have seen it at that point. But it stopped. And

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all of a sudden, the next thing I knew, I

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heard this low, guttural growl.

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In July 2011, Antonio and his best friend were walking

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home after midnight through familiar woods along the Southwick-Westfield border

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in western Massachusetts. Something large pushed through dense brush toward them,

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then stopped just outside the light. Antonio has carried the

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question of what stood there since he was 11 years old.

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feel free to, to take us back to, uh, what

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was going on that day, uh, what year it was and, uh,

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and where this, uh, happened.

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Yeah, of course, man. Um, so this was July, 2011.

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I was 11 years old. Um, it was in around, uh,

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Westfield Southwick, like Granville mass area, um, where it happened

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was probably about like 18 to 20 minutes from Granville

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and like pretty much right in South Westfield border. Um,

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and if anybody on the show hears this, they're going

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to know that there's a lot of wilderness, um, a

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lot of wilderness around there. So, uh, yeah, so it was,

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you know, mid July, I can't remember exactly what day

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it was. It was so many years ago, but, um,

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it was in mid July and me and my, uh,

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best friend were, uh, well, I'll give a little bit

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where we lived. There was, uh, woods that connected us, um,

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to each of my buddy's houses. So we could, I

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could walk a good 15 to 20 minutes and get

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to my friend's house, um, right through my backyard. And

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then I'd walk another 10 minutes to get to my

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other friend's house and other friends' house. We were all

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connected by, um, wilderness. And there was this place that, uh,

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we would always go to on the right side of

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the land bridge, uh, where this happened. Um, we'd play,

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you know, airsoft manhunt. I mean, we, we lived in

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the woods. Like this was, uh, We'd have fires. We'd

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go fishing all the time. Like we were kids that

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just played outside, like in wilderness all the time. So

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that night we were walking home from one of my

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friend's houses and we're going back to my buddy's house

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who was with me to have a sleepover. It's probably 11,

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12 at night, 1230, around midnight time, late, late. And

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so we're walking and And all of a sudden we

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get to the left side of the land bridge where

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if you went down that way, you could get to

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my house if you walked about 10, 15 minutes through

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that forest area. But that area, a certain area, it

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was very heavily like thick with plants and thorns and

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pricker bushes. And we would never walk through there because

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we were little kids and we'd get torn up. So

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all of a sudden, right in that area, we start

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hearing these massive bipedal footsteps super loud. The best way

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I describe it is like if you've ever seen Jurassic Park,

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the first movie, when the T-Rex is walking and when

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it's walking, like the ground is vibrating and And it wasn't, like,

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that much of an exaggeration. Like, that's kind of what

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it felt like. Like, we were just hearing brush getting destroyed. Like,

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something was very big walking through the woods coming right

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directly towards us. And at first, my buddy was like, man,

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that's got to be a bear. And I'm like, no,

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there's no way that's a bear. A bear can walk

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on two feet, but this thing sounds way heavier than

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any bear I've heard. And bears can only do it

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for a certain amount of time. this kept happening for minutes.

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And it got closer and closer, and it started walking

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through where we would never go through because of how

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thick that brush was. And then this thing was just

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clearing brush, clearing it like it was its job. The

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footsteps were so heavy. I mean, it sounded like somebody

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was taking 100-pound weights and just throwing them on the ground.

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And I remember... we were getting so scared because it

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was coming closer and closer and you'd hear one footstep.

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And this is how I knew whatever it was, was

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very tall because you'd hear one footstep and then it'd

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be another second or two seconds, two, three seconds before

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second foot would fall. So I knew whatever it was,

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was very tall. And it got to probably about, I

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would say 10 to 15 feet away from me and

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my friend. And there was one light post on the

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left side of us, And it knew the light post

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was there. And if it would have came any further,

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we would have seen it at that point. But it stopped.

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And all of a sudden, the next thing I knew,

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I heard this low, guttural growl. I can't describe it.

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It was like... So deep, like the best way I

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think I could describe it is like if Shaquille O'Neal

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did like a massive grunt. I can't even try to

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make that same noise, but it petrified us. It terrified us.

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And after it did that, next thing I knew, I

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couldn't move. I was frozen. I tried moving my arms.

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I tried to walk. I tried to run. I could

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not move. I was paralyzed. And I could still move

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my eyes left and right. My peripherals to my left,

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my friend is stuck too. He can't move. We were

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still able to talk to each other. What's going on?

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You can't move. You can't move. And then the footsteps

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started getting closer and closer. And I started thinking in

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my head, I'm going to die. This thing's going to

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grab me. It's going to take my friend or me.

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It's going to kill us. No one's ever going to

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see us again. I'm too young for this. I'm only 11.

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I'm going to die. These are my final moments. And

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the next thing I knew, I don't remember if I

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started praying to the Lord or if the Lord sent

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an angel or he himself came. But there had to

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be some divine intervention because out of nowhere, I was

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able to move. And I snapped out of it and

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I run over to my friend and I start shaking

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him violently like, dude, we got to go. We got

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to go. We got to go. It's going to get us.

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And he can't move. It got to the point where

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I wasn't going to leave him, but I didn't know

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what else to do. So I winded myself back as

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hard as I could, and I slapped him across the

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face as hard as I could. I didn't know what

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else to do. I wasn't strong enough to carry him

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and run up the hill by myself. I couldn't do it.

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And when I slapped him across the face... He fell

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backwards and hit his head on the ground. And he...

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I helped him up and I said, Dude, we need

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to leave now. And I sprinted up that hill as

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fast as I possibly could. So I get a little

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emotional when I talk about this because I was so terrified.

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And I run up the hill and I get about...

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I would say... almost entirely up the hill, and I

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turn around, and before I tell this part, I was

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so scared as a kid that my memory literally locked

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this memory away from me for years, for probably 13 years.

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The end of this memory was just totally put into

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a bank and closed. Until about four or five years ago,

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I started having dreams again. And the full memory started

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coming back. And that's when the next part happened. That's

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how scared I was. So I turn around and I

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look at my friend. And he's a good probably 10,

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15 yards behind me. And I ran so fast, dude.

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I felt bad. I left him in the dust. But

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I wasn't going to leave him there. So I had

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to do something to help him. But once I did

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my part, I freaking bolted, man. I ran as fast

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as I could. And when I turned around and looked

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and I saw he was 10 to 15 yards behind me,

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I saw coming out of the woods a massive. I mean,

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at first I thought it was a man. I thought

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it was a black guy wearing a hoodie. This thing

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was huge. I mean, ginormous proportions. I went back. a

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couple of years ago and remeasured to what I thought, um,

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where the top of his head was and right by

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the light pole. Cause it was standing right by the

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light post. And I, uh, mesh probably, I mean, I

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was 11. So maybe my height proportions were off, but

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when I got a good look at it and it,

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this thing was at least 10 feet tall, no, no

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shorter than nine and a half, 10 feet tall. And

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when I seen it, it looked at me. I looked

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at it, was looking at my friend, And it just stared.

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And I got so scared again, I just took off.

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And my friend never turned around. He never saw it.

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He never saw it. He never turned around. He just

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kept running. Or maybe if he did, I don't remember.

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Maybe he was so scared, too, that his memory locked

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it up. But we got back to his house, and

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we were talking. I'm like, man, that wasn't a bear.

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And he's like, you seen him? like yeah that wasn't

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a bear that there was no bear and he was

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like man i can't believe that that that just happened

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i'm like yeah we didn't sleep at all that night

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we were so scared we there was no i don't

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even think i slept for half a minute we were

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up the entire night and it was a quiet night

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we didn't talk about it much after we got to

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his house and the rest of that summer We did

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not go in the woods. And I remember my friends

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all like, why don't you guys want to play Airsoft?

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Why don't you guys want to do this? Why don't

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you guys want to play Manhunt? I wanted nothing to

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do with the woods the rest of that summer. And

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this creature, man, I could feel it. I just felt

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like this thing hated me, man. Like it, it like

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he wanted to, I know it wanted to kill me. I,

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that is what I felt. I felt that it was

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there to harm me and my friend. It was not

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there to be a friend. It was there for bad,

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bad intentions. And I was so scared. So, so, so scared, terrified, um,

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that this thing was going to get me. I'm honestly

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surprised I didn't wet my pants. I'm going to be

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honest with you. I know that might sound funny to

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some people, but, um, That was probably the most scared

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I've ever been in my life. And there's also been

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other instances, other things that have happened to me as well.

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But the description I'll give of this thing was it

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was all black and it was jacked. Very muscular. It

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looked like Arnold Schwarzenegger, but bigger. All black and black.

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It was just it's just massive. I mean, a behemoth

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of a creature. I don't know how else to describe it.

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When you say Arnold Schwarzenegger, are you saying 1980s or

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current day?

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1980s, 1980s, like freaking so muscular. And but it would

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make him look. it would make him look like he

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was skinny. You know what I mean? I don't know.

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It's just, this thing was so muscular. You could see

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the muscles popping out as one thing I'll never forget

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now is you could see the muscle definition. Like it

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looked like a bodybuilder. I don't know how else to

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describe it.

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So when you were able to have a good look

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at it, were you able to see any defining facial

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features besides you've mentioned that it was incredibly muscular about

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10 feet tall.

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I it was such a quick look because I was

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so scared that I maybe saw it for like half

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a minute but I would say that I couldn't get

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a good enough look at its face but what I

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would notice is it didn't really seem like it had

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a neck like it The best way I could describe

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it was like if somebody had a massive sweatshirt over

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their head. But it looked like... I know I've heard

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people call them no-necks before. And that's probably my best description.

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I didn't see a neck on it. It just looked

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like it was shoulders and head. And just super hairy.

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I didn't see any teeth. It did look like it

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had a nose like us. But it was so dark inside.

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I'm assuming its eyes were black. I'm assuming because I

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didn't see anything other than that.

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The term no neck, I haven't heard that before. I've,

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of course, alluded to it multiple times in the show

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and other witnesses have, but is that a term that's

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used regionally in your area?

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I would say I heard a story in.

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It was in Ohio. I know, obviously, you've probably heard

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of the Ohio Grassman.

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Oh, sure.

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But I heard this guy's story a couple years ago,

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and he said that his family had had these creatures

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on their property deep in the woods in Ohio for years,

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and they would call them no-necks. So that's where I

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heard that from. But I don't know if that's how

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it's described in our area in Western Mass, but all

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I know is that when I saw it, it didn't

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really look like it had a neck.

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For this particular area, the only regional name I've heard

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is actually over in Granville would be the Cobble Mountain Critter.

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Yes, I've heard of that, the Cobble Mountain Critter.

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You've heard of that? Okay.

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Yes, I have. It's actually crazy you bring that up

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because one of my good friends, I'll see if his

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brother would be willing to go on the show, but

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one of my good friend's brother's best friend lives on

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Cobble Mountain, and he had a crazy encounter one night

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with one of these creatures.

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I'd love to talk to him.

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Yeah.

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If you could reach out for sure.

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Yeah. I'll, I'll ask him.

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So, but the area you had your encounter in is not,

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not close to Cobble Mountain. I mean, it's, it's a

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bit of a ways.

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Away, right?

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Okay.

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Gotcha.

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Interesting.

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How, how long was it before you, either of you

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shared what happened with anyone else?

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My friend and I will talk about it here and there.

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I don't think he's told anybody, if I'm going to

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be honest with you. When I bring it up to him,

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I can tell there's that chill that goes down his spine,

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if that makes sense. But it took me a long

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time to tell anybody anything. I've told my parents. They

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don't believe me. They laugh when I say it. My

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wife believes me, though. My wife believes me. And I

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think I've really only told maybe five. four to six people.

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And out of those people, only two or three, um,

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besides my best friend actually believe what happened to me.

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I know what happened to me. There's no reason for

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me to lie. There's no reason for me to come

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on a show and make up a story. I'm too

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grown for that. Like this happened to me and I

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thought I was going to die. I thought me and

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my friend were going to become dinner for this thing.

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How long did you wait until you had that, that, uh,

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conversation with your parents?

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So I actually just told my mom the other day

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because I was telling her that I was going to

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be on a show. And she was like, oh, what happened?

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And I told her and she just chuckled and laughed.

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I didn't tell her, my dad, up until probably a

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week ago, a week or two ago.

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So that's 15 years, right?

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Yes, about 15 years.

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Oh, my goodness.

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I just thought they were going to not believe me

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and throw it off. And they don't, so. It is

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what it is. And I believe if they have something similar,

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you know, if they had some, and it's hard for people, man,

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because I love it now that so many people who

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are having encounters are coming forward and going on channels

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like yours and giving their experience because that gives me

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comfort knowing that I'm not alone and that I'm not crazy.

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Why do you think it is that your wife believes you?

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Well, we have a son together and we're married and

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we go to church and she knows that I wouldn't

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just make that up. I've taken her to the exact

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spot it's happened and I showed her the area and

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it's very heavily wooded. So she thinks these things are real.

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She believes me. And I don't know why, but I

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think it's just because we're married and we trust each

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other with our lives and I told her, I said,

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whenever we go in the woods for you and my

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son's safety, we're going to be armed and we're not

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going to go where we don't know because I know

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these things are out there and I know they're mean

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and they are not our friends, at least from my experience.

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Did you notice anything else about the area when you

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returned there with your wife through adult eyes as opposed

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to what you remember from from when you were younger

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and had the encounter happen?

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One thing that I would say is I know these

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from stories I've heard, I know these things are super fast.

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So I'm, I was wondering if it was using where

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I was as like a highway to get to somewhere else,

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if that makes sense, because where I was, it's like

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connected to Southwick and Granville. So I'm wondering if it was, If,

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if this thing was like traveling, if that makes sense

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or going.

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From one spot to the other, it's a really, it's

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a really smart thing to bring up because, uh, and

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that's part of what I do when I research an area,

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just using maps and you look for the areas. the

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green spaces that they can use to even travel through

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major cities.

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Like Omaha or St.

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Louis.

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Yeah, I believe they can. They're fast. I think these

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things can run at high speeds. And I've heard stories

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of them keeping up with somebody's car and the guy

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was going like 65 and it was right behind the

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back of his car for a good like 30 seconds.

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So if they can run that fast, they have no

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problem going from town to town. area to area especially

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using the woods as like a.

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Highway absolutely um so you're very young when this happened

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uh how did this affect you in the years afterwards.

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It uh it it uh caused me to have a

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lot of uh anxiety and uh depression and um i

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never really understood why Why that was the case, but

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I know, obviously, because of trauma. I was a little kid.

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I was only 11 years old. Every time I went

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into the woods, after that, I made sure that I

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was checking my surroundings and listening very well. Now as

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an adult, I won't go in the woods without being armed.

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I won't.

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They've never seen me out in the woods without carrying

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a firearm because I know they're out there. If the

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thing is that tall that fast that strong it has

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no problem no problem taking me out no.

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Problem absolutely and it's a thing where you know and

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and people that are maybe new to this might scoff

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about oh really southwick and westfield but if you look

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at like the history i mean i've taken reports from

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even in agawam Wow.

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Which is wild.

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And, and so I've got a map where I put

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things all together on bigfootsocietypodcast.com, but then you take that

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info and you combine it with like Northwestern Connecticut and

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all that.

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There's a lot of activity in Connecticut as well, from

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what I've heard.

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Absolutely.

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Um, over, let's get into, uh, you said that there's

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other things that you've made connections.

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That has happened? Yeah, of course.

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So probably a year or two after that, I think

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it was my freshman year of high school, 2014. And,

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you know, I was, was about the same time or

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of not the same time of the year. It was

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in the fall, but the same time at night, I

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had my window open. It was about 1130 and I

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got woken up to, uh, I mean, just blood curdling screams.

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Like at first I woke up, my parents were like,

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you guys hear that? Like, oh, it's gotta be a cougar.

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I'm like, I know what, I know what a cougar

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sounds like. That does not sound like a cougar. And

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it would just happen over and over and over again.

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It happened for a couple of weeks. Back to back

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late at night, just massive. I mean, it sounded like

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a woman getting murdered. I don't know how else to,

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how else to describe it. Just, screams upon screams and

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then uh i would say later that year i was

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in the woods with uh my friends again and and

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even when we were younger now that i think about

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it when we were younger too sometimes the woods would

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just go quiet they would just out of nowhere the

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birds would stop chirping you know, you wouldn't hear the

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frogs croak no more. The squirrels wouldn't, it's just the

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wilderness would go dead silent. And I remember one time

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we were playing airsoft and that happened. And I'm like,

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we're all like, what's going on? Like everything just, it's

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like you could hear a pin drop. I don't know

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how else to describe it, but just super quiet. And

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I had, I think now that there was one of

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those things watching us and there, from what I've heard,

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they have crazy ways of blending in, I believe there

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was one, you know, spying on us without us knowing

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it was there.

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Very interesting.

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And you said that was in a, was that in

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a close by area to the original?

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It was right next to where I had my first encounter. Okay.

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Right there, literally 15 feet from where it happened.

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Wow.

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Super close. Um, And that happened multiple times, not just one,

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like that happened multiple times to the point where when

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I got older and I realized, wait a minute, I

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started watching more, you know, cryptic content because of my

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own experience. And I realized, wait, that's, that's a thing.

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These things do when they enter a territory, wilderness becomes

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quiet things, you know, and I've also heard wood knocks before. Um,

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that same night I heard that screaming that sounded like

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a woman. I started hearing what sounded like a bat or,

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or a tree just getting like, like hit very hard

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over and over again. But at the time I'm 2014,

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I didn't know what that was. I had no idea.

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I'm like, what's going on. You know what I mean?

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It's just weird stuff. What happened in the woods, man.

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It's really, really interesting. Have you ever looked into, well,

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you know, sometimes when, when individuals, uh, like us get into, uh,

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you know, we start watching the shows and listening to

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the podcast and it becomes interesting to us. Sometimes you

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start looking into, sometimes you start looking into a certain area, uh,

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and seeing if there's other, uh, trends or things. Have

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you ever looked into the area where your encounter happened

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to see if there's other things that have been reported?

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You know, I actually haven't for the exact spot that

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I have, but I haven't heard. I haven't heard of

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one that where I had mine, but I have heard

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about 20 minutes north in Granville. My geography is probably horrible,

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but I have heard of plenty of encounters in Granville

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and Granville from where it happened to me is about

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a 15 minute drive, 15, 20 minute drive to get

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to the Granville State Forest. So I think they're connected somehow.

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Or maybe it was one that's from Granville and it

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came over here. I don't know.

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It totally could be a possibility. I'm going to see

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how to word a question. Have you ever had conversations...

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Sometimes in... I'm trying to think of how to refer

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to what you do without giving it away. I know

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a lot of what you do that have conversations while

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they're doing their profession. Has this subject ever come up

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in while you're doing your profession with people that you

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don't really know?

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I would say not with people I don't really know,

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but with the people that I have that keep that

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I see often with my job. and that have had

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things happen to them as well around this area of

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Western Mass, it's gotten brought up, and it's been talked

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about actually quite a bit. But when I talk to

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them about it, we talk very quietly, so nobody else

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in the room can hear.

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Does that make sense? No, I totally get that.

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Is this a thing where you would ever want to

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have a sighting or an experience like this.

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Again, or is it, it's very traumatic. You're good.

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Okay.

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You're good with the medicine.

465
00:26:55.269 --> 00:26:58.670
All set, man. No, thanks. Okay.

466
00:26:58.730 --> 00:27:01.970
Nope. So you're interested in the subject, but you have

467
00:27:02.009 --> 00:27:03.950
drawn the line where it's like, no, we're not going

468
00:27:03.970 --> 00:27:06.410
to go on expeditions.

469
00:27:05.650 --> 00:27:07.490
And go out there. Nope. Not going to go squatching

470
00:27:07.509 --> 00:27:09.910
in the woods. I'm all set. And if I do,

471
00:27:10.150 --> 00:27:12.450
I'm going to have at least seven, six, two or five, five,

472
00:27:12.490 --> 00:27:13.839
six on my waist.

473
00:27:15.180 --> 00:27:15.420
Sure.

474
00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:15.519
Yeah.

475
00:27:16.410 --> 00:27:16.910
Absolutely.

476
00:27:17.069 --> 00:27:19.150
No lower caliber than that. I'm all set.

477
00:27:20.539 --> 00:27:25.720
So trying to remember, you know, or, or imagining, uh,

478
00:27:26.500 --> 00:27:29.839
in your mind, what you had seen there for very short,

479
00:27:30.500 --> 00:27:36.599
very quick time, you know, some people describe Bigfoot in

480
00:27:36.640 --> 00:27:40.420
different ways when they try to categorize it. Uh, everything

481
00:27:40.569 --> 00:27:45.109
from there's some weird gorilla thing out in the woods to, uh,

482
00:27:45.740 --> 00:27:49.250
There's some cousin to humans that's way smarter to us.

483
00:27:50.250 --> 00:27:52.849
Based on what you experienced, would you be able to

484
00:27:52.910 --> 00:27:55.809
categorize that in any certain way?

485
00:27:56.049 --> 00:27:58.609
Or is it maybe something completely different in your mind?

486
00:28:00.690 --> 00:28:05.390
I would not categorize it as some species of human

487
00:28:05.589 --> 00:28:10.619
or some species like a Neanderthal. I am a believer

488
00:28:10.660 --> 00:28:14.029
in the good book, the Holy Bible. And I view

489
00:28:14.069 --> 00:28:20.119
this through a Christ-centered lens. And I know what the

490
00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:22.819
Nephilim are and the Raphaim and the giants of old

491
00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:25.519
that were the sons and daughters of the fallen angels

492
00:28:25.579 --> 00:28:29.099
that slept with daughters of man and created giants. And

493
00:28:29.140 --> 00:28:32.079
I'm wondering if these things are fallen angel human hybrids

494
00:28:32.380 --> 00:28:35.339
or Nephilim human hybrids. That's kind of where I would

495
00:28:36.500 --> 00:28:39.289
go towards. That actually, that's just what makes sense to me.

496
00:28:40.900 --> 00:28:43.259
I could be totally wrong. I have no idea, but

497
00:28:43.299 --> 00:28:44.039
that's my opinion.

498
00:28:44.740 --> 00:28:47.640
It's an interesting theory that does get brought up on

499
00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:48.819
the show, and it gets.

500
00:28:48.809 --> 00:28:50.509
Brought up in the comments a whole ton.

501
00:28:52.349 --> 00:28:57.930
Were there any things that led you to maybe some

502
00:28:57.990 --> 00:29:04.769
study that you did that led you to that theory

503
00:29:04.829 --> 00:29:08.609
of perhaps we're dealing with a Nephilim type thing?

504
00:29:09.930 --> 00:29:15.039
I would, my opinion, yes, I would just say, because

505
00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:18.299
I think, man, you hear a lot of these stories

506
00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:21.099
and it's like my story where it didn't grab me.

507
00:29:21.299 --> 00:29:22.980
Or you hear a Doc Man story and it goes,

508
00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:25.180
it was staring at me and this thing could have

509
00:29:25.220 --> 00:29:29.480
easily killed me if it wanted to. I'm wondering if

510
00:29:29.569 --> 00:29:34.769
these things are being held back for a reason. And

511
00:29:34.829 --> 00:29:39.609
this might sound crazy, but I think that these beings,

512
00:29:39.630 --> 00:29:43.859
these creatures, are being held back because once the seven-year

513
00:29:43.900 --> 00:29:46.180
tribulation happens they're going to be let loose on the

514
00:29:46.220 --> 00:29:50.690
earth to cause havoc yeah um that is my opinion

515
00:29:50.809 --> 00:29:54.230
and if that's any true uh that's very scary.

516
00:29:54.690 --> 00:29:58.619
It is it's extremely scary uh in I totally get

517
00:29:58.660 --> 00:29:59.819
what you're saying, Antonio.

518
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:05.359
It reminds me of a good friend. His name is Josh.

519
00:30:05.480 --> 00:30:08.970
He has the channel Mysteries Unknown, and he has this account,

520
00:30:10.569 --> 00:30:12.509
which is is a fantastic account.

521
00:30:12.529 --> 00:30:14.630
I actually was on his channel.

522
00:30:14.950 --> 00:30:15.750
Oh, you were OK.

523
00:30:16.789 --> 00:30:20.109
I'm referring to his episode where it's a dog man

524
00:30:20.430 --> 00:30:25.259
and pretty much a dog man says to the witness, hey,

525
00:30:26.170 --> 00:30:29.009
when I'm able to, you're the first one I'm going

526
00:30:29.029 --> 00:30:31.670
to take out. And when I heard that, I was

527
00:30:31.690 --> 00:30:35.410
just like, yeah, he was texting.

528
00:30:35.809 --> 00:30:38.259
We were talking, um, after my interview, cause I had

529
00:30:38.299 --> 00:30:40.920
an interview with him last week and he was like,

530
00:30:40.940 --> 00:30:42.819
Hey man, if you want to, he hasn't put it

531
00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:45.160
on his channel yet, but I reached out to you

532
00:30:45.220 --> 00:30:47.619
and him because I really like your guys' podcasts and

533
00:30:47.700 --> 00:30:50.900
I just feel comfortable going on your guys' shows. And, um,

534
00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:53.319
so I had, that's crazy. I didn't know you're friends

535
00:30:53.339 --> 00:30:55.589
with him, but, um, He was talking to me, and

536
00:30:55.630 --> 00:30:58.559
he's like, man, you're never going to believe. Because he

537
00:30:58.640 --> 00:31:00.700
asked me, what do you think this is? And I

538
00:31:00.740 --> 00:31:04.960
was like, I think these things are being held back

539
00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:07.940
for the seven-year tribulation. And he's like, no, no way.

540
00:31:08.670 --> 00:31:10.309
And then you just told me what you told me

541
00:31:10.710 --> 00:31:13.829
from what he had. And the fact that that dogman said,

542
00:31:13.990 --> 00:31:18.490
when I am able to. Not if, not now, when.

543
00:31:19.170 --> 00:31:21.740
That should tell you that they're being held back now.

544
00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:25.299
for a specific reason and i think the reason is

545
00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:28.980
is clear as day i think they're going to create

546
00:31:29.059 --> 00:31:32.059
havoc once um the tribulation starts.

547
00:31:32.259 --> 00:31:35.339
It's a fascinating it's a fascinating theory and especially if

548
00:31:35.400 --> 00:31:37.900
you look into and i'm not saying this is my

549
00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:40.200
my theory because i'm trying to figure this out as

550
00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:43.529
a going of course what i do know antonio which

551
00:31:43.549 --> 00:31:47.369
has come up on the show multiple times and uh

552
00:31:47.670 --> 00:31:54.700
it's that when when people when witnesses in encounters or

553
00:31:54.819 --> 00:32:00.799
terrible situations, use the name of Jesus Christ, it shuts

554
00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:03.009
stuff down because it is powerful.

555
00:32:03.069 --> 00:32:06.569
Every knee shall bow. Every tongue shall confess that Christ

556
00:32:06.650 --> 00:32:10.890
is Lord. And if these things, man, I didn't think

557
00:32:10.930 --> 00:32:12.990
we were going to go down this path in the interview,

558
00:32:13.009 --> 00:32:17.000
but I'm glad we are because so many stories I've heard,

559
00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:21.480
like you just said, uh people will decree the blood

560
00:32:21.519 --> 00:32:24.839
of christ they will decree you know jesus save me

561
00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:27.859
or or lord please and when they say these things

562
00:32:28.900 --> 00:32:32.819
these creatures they they they can't attack them like they

563
00:32:32.859 --> 00:32:36.460
leave them or they're able to escape like it's it's

564
00:32:36.500 --> 00:32:38.960
crazy like it's it's as it's like it's written in

565
00:32:38.980 --> 00:32:41.440
the word of god because it is you know what

566
00:32:41.480 --> 00:32:41.900
i mean.

567
00:32:41.759 --> 00:32:44.339
A hundred percent and the other thing is like i

568
00:32:44.420 --> 00:32:47.019
don't get a lot into like ufo and alien stuff

569
00:32:47.059 --> 00:32:52.180
but i have a little bit And there's an overlap there, too,

570
00:32:52.299 --> 00:32:59.289
where witnesses or people that are in contact with aliens,

571
00:32:59.430 --> 00:33:02.130
they also use the name of Jesus, and it shuts

572
00:33:02.210 --> 00:33:02.630
it down.

573
00:33:03.150 --> 00:33:06.069
It shuts it down. You say, oh, I've been captured

574
00:33:06.170 --> 00:33:09.359
or abducted, and then I decree the blood of Christ,

575
00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:12.819
and I'm back in my bed, or I'm not in

576
00:33:12.839 --> 00:33:17.420
the spacecraft anymore, or I'm safe. And it makes me think, like,

577
00:33:18.400 --> 00:33:22.579
are aliens really just demons in disguise or fallen angels

578
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:27.000
in disguise to mess with humanity? And, and, you know, they,

579
00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:29.940
I don't, I haven't, I don't have an answer to that.

580
00:33:30.299 --> 00:33:33.299
It makes you wonder, um, it's, I take things very

581
00:33:33.359 --> 00:33:37.269
seriously now. Um, and this has started to come out

582
00:33:37.329 --> 00:33:40.250
in the most recent shows where if I'm in the

583
00:33:40.269 --> 00:33:44.069
middle of the interview and I start getting a weird

584
00:33:44.750 --> 00:33:48.849
Holy spirit, Spidey sense where it's like, Hey, Be careful, dude.

585
00:33:50.069 --> 00:33:52.890
I immediately, hey, we need to pray real quick.

586
00:33:54.130 --> 00:33:54.509
Amen.

587
00:33:54.789 --> 00:34:00.089
And bind the devil, bind any negative spirit, you know,

588
00:34:00.190 --> 00:34:03.230
demonic stuff going on in the interview with the name

589
00:34:03.250 --> 00:34:05.809
of Jesus. And like after that, it's totally like good times.

590
00:34:05.829 --> 00:34:10.630
I take it very seriously. Very, very seriously. You have to, man.

591
00:34:10.969 --> 00:34:15.050
You have to. Yeah, absolutely. Man, what a fascinating story.

592
00:34:16.840 --> 00:34:20.960
story that you have and really testimony as well. And

593
00:34:20.980 --> 00:34:26.480
I'll be definitely checking it out once Josh puts his

594
00:34:27.139 --> 00:34:31.659
episode out as well. I love his stuff. But dude,

595
00:34:31.699 --> 00:34:34.840
I want to make sure that you were able to

596
00:34:34.900 --> 00:34:39.579
share all the thoughts you had about your encounter and

597
00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:42.880
make sure that that is all out there on the table.

598
00:34:43.900 --> 00:34:48.030
Yeah. I would tell people they're listening to this, that

599
00:34:49.909 --> 00:34:51.809
just because you haven't seen one of these things in

600
00:34:51.829 --> 00:34:54.409
your state or your area of the world doesn't mean

601
00:34:54.429 --> 00:34:57.449
they're not there. I mean, I've heard people's encounters from

602
00:34:57.550 --> 00:35:01.219
Russia or, you know, Asia where these, I think these

603
00:35:01.260 --> 00:35:05.139
things are everywhere. I really do. I would say if

604
00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:07.719
you're going to go in the woods, please be armed.

605
00:35:07.900 --> 00:35:12.519
Do not go unarmed because these things are fast, they're strong.

606
00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:17.079
And I've heard a story of one tank in tanking

607
00:35:17.679 --> 00:35:22.010
a 308 blackout, two shots to the lower abdomen, and

608
00:35:22.050 --> 00:35:24.710
it fell, but it got back up and then ran away.

609
00:35:24.730 --> 00:35:27.070
I don't know if it died after, from the story

610
00:35:27.110 --> 00:35:30.050
I heard, the guy didn't have the specifics, he said

611
00:35:30.070 --> 00:35:32.849
he shot it, it got up, and then it ran away,

612
00:35:32.969 --> 00:35:35.929
and he never saw it again. So these things are powerful,

613
00:35:36.230 --> 00:35:41.440
they have no problem taking out a human being. There's nothing,

614
00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:43.320
I don't even care if you're seven feet tall, there's

615
00:35:43.900 --> 00:35:46.059
There's nothing you can do to stop these things unless

616
00:35:46.099 --> 00:35:49.320
you have firearms. So just, if you're going to be

617
00:35:49.340 --> 00:35:51.960
in the woods, make sure you check your surroundings, especially

618
00:35:51.980 --> 00:35:54.219
if you have little ones with you because they're fast

619
00:35:54.280 --> 00:35:56.340
and they could steal a kid and you wouldn't even notice.

620
00:35:57.460 --> 00:36:01.539
So that would probably be my advice to people.

621
00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:04.940
Yeah. Be prepared.

622
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:08.519
You know, and some, it's not even, if you're going

623
00:36:08.539 --> 00:36:11.469
out in the woods looking for a Sasquatch, pretty much you're,

624
00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:16.730
Be ready for other things like cougars or crazy people

625
00:36:16.849 --> 00:36:20.170
out there. You just don't go into it with like

626
00:36:20.230 --> 00:36:22.489
a sheep, you know? And I'm not saying like go

627
00:36:22.510 --> 00:36:24.769
out there and take out a Sasquatch, but I'm like saying, hey,

628
00:36:25.090 --> 00:36:28.590
protection is okay for things that might happen when you're

629
00:36:28.650 --> 00:36:33.269
out there. But Antonio, what a fascinating conversation. Thank you

630
00:36:33.289 --> 00:36:35.909
so much for coming on the show and sharing what

631
00:36:35.949 --> 00:36:38.630
happened to you and what's on your heart. And it's

632
00:36:38.690 --> 00:36:41.889
been just a really uplifting conversation today.

633
00:36:41.929 --> 00:36:42.210
Thank you.

634
00:36:42.780 --> 00:36:44.719
Thank you, man. God bless you. I appreciate you.

635
00:36:45.699 --> 00:36:47.920
A special thank you to Antonio for coming on the

636
00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:51.159
show today. If you've had a Bigfoot encounter of your own,

637
00:36:51.380 --> 00:36:53.079
I would love to hear from you. You can send

638
00:36:53.099 --> 00:36:58.289
me an email with your encounter at bigfootsociety at gmail.com.

639
00:36:58.369 --> 00:37:01.449
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640
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641
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642
00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:13.420
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