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Sept. 17, 2026

Something Slammed a Mother’s Jeep Toward a Cliff Near Silver Falls

A late-night drive into Oregon’s remote Silver Falls Wilderness became a fight to stay on the road. Gloria was traveling with her children when multiple upright shadows began crossing through her headlights. The figures moved closer as she climbed...

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Season 1

A late-night drive into Oregon’s remote Silver Falls Wilderness became a fight to stay on the road.


Gloria was traveling with her children when multiple upright shadows began crossing through her headlights. The figures moved closer as she climbed higher into the mountains. After she turned the Jeep around, a massive figure charged down the hillside and struck the vehicle, pushing one tire over the edge of a steep drop. When Gloria reached home, she discovered a huge hand-shaped dent in the side of the Jeep.


Years later, Gloria’s family began experiencing repeated activity at secluded campsites in Oregon’s Klamath area. Seven family members have reportedly witnessed figures near the trees and creek. They have also documented enormous tracks, handprints on their RV, strange vocalizations, camp disturbances, and small objects apparently left in response to gifts.


Gloria shares the full story of the night near Silver Falls, the unsettling history of the locked road, and the encounters her family says are still happening today.


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Just as I got turned around, something hit the side

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of my Jeep and pushed.

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Me towards the cliff. And one of my.

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Tires was now hanging off to the side of the road.

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In 2018, Gloria drove through an open gate into Oregon's

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remote Silver Falls wilderness. with her children in the Jeep.

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Upright shadows began crossing the snow-covered road, and the gate

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carried a history she would only learn after returning. What

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was moving alongside her vehicle that night? I'm Jeremiah Byron,

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and this is Bigfoot Society.

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We'll start with my first experience.

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I wasn't really a Bigfoot believer, and my ex-husband and

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I used to explore lots of mountain ranges and just

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go for drives.

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I had my Jeep, and I felt like I could

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just go anywhere.

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And one night we were having a disagreement. So I

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loaded the kids up in my Jeep and we went

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for a drive up towards like the Silver Falls wilderness area.

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And I've been told several times not to go out

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there by myself, but I figured I'm in my Jeep

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and I'll be fine.

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I know the roads. Well, while I was up on

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the mountain, I, um.

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Came up across a road that we hadn't gotten to

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explore yet because the gates usually closed and locked.

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And this was about.

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Probably towards like the beginning of fall. And, um, Around

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that area, we don't usually get snow by then, but

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as I continued up this road, it was a pretty

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narrow road. We had a cliff on one side and

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then a hillside on the other, and it got down

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to where it was like a one lane.

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My Jeep was pretty tight. And I drive up.

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This road for quite a while and I run in

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the snow, which was really odd to me. And then

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I start seeing like these shadows everywhere. run across the road.

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And I'm like, well, maybe it's just my lights reflecting

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off the snow. And it's, you know, I'm out in

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the woods, of course, I'm going to see things. And

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the shadows were, I mean, they were larger than the

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signs and walking upright as they crossed. And so I,

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I thought nothing of it and continued down.

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And I.

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Kept seeing more and more.

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And I got.

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I got this really eerie feeling like I shouldn't be

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down here. And the road kept getting worse with the

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snow and everything. And I started seeing these shadows pass

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in my rearview mirror and not just in my headlights.

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And I could see the trees moving and almost shadows

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on my right side where the hillside was. And my

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left side's like a drop-off cliff. And I was like, okay, well,

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I've had enough. There's nowhere to turn around. So I,

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I managed to do like a five point turnaround and

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get to where my Jeep was facing downhill to where

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I can follow the trail I.

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Took up back down.

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And just as I got turned around, Something hit the

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side of my Jeep and pushed.

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Me towards the cliff.

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And one of my tires was now hanging off to

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the side of the road. And I....

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Oh, gosh.

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And my kids were sleeping in the back. And at

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this point, I was kind of freaking out. And my

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Jeep was already in four-wheel drive because of the snow.

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And I took off and raced down the hillside and

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back home. And when I got home, to this day,

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there's still dents in the side of my Jeep of

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a huge handprint.

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And I've had my.

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husband now, um, he's actually fit his hand into it

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and it's, it's a lot bigger than his hand. And he's,

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he's a pretty big guy. And, um, that was, that

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was a really scary moment. I went and told my ex-husband's, um,

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grandpa about it and my ex-husband, and we went back

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up the next day and, um, The gate was closed

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at that point.

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And but you can see my tire tracks.

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On the other side of the gate, like where I

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had driven through the previous night. And his grandpa told

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me that that gate hasn't been open since the 60s.

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Due to a big foot attack.

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Um, and if I went like maybe a half mile

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further down that road, there's actually a Volkswagen bus that

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has been flipped over and abandoned and everything from way

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back in the sixties. And so that's why that gate's

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always been closed. And I've gone up again, several times

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since then, and the gate is still closed.

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I've talked to a lot of.

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People in that area and they believe that, you know,

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my first experience, it was more like Bigfoot was doing

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like more of a luring kind of technique. And I've

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never experienced anything like that before or since then. But

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that was my very first experience.

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Gloria, that is absolutely amazing. intense uh my goodness i

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have a few questions for you and i think it

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might be good to for us to go over that

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right now before uh your other encounter but so yeah

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my goodness a few things to ask you about so

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a lot of people are going to be this is

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actually a question i asked you before too but um

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so this is not the silver falls state park area

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this is different than that correct.

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Yes, this is the Silver Falls Wilderness area.

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Okay, and then is there any other way to describe

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what area that is? It's not one that I see

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coming up on maps when you search for, like, Silver

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Falls Wilderness.

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So they do have, like, a back road that goes

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from Silver Falls all the way through, and it'll take

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you to Highway 22, right?

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Okay, so it's south of the state park then?

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It's kind of like southeast. Got it.

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Okay, I know exactly what you're talking about now. Okay, yeah, sure.

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That area is extremely rugged from what I've heard about.

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I've never been out there.

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This was before the fires of 2020, right?

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This was quite a few years ago.

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So I'm sure fires affected that area quite a bit.

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Oh, absolutely. And that's, that's another question I was actually

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going to ask you. Uh, what approximate year was this

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that that happened?

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This was probably about 2018.

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Okay.

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So, I mean, that is, that's relatively recent. That's less

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than 10 years. Um, That is, that is recent for you. Um,

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how far out there were you when you started seeing

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the shadows, uh, crossing the road?

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Um, so I've been, I was on the dirt road.

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I mean, I left the highway and was on the

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dirt road for probably about a good hour and a half.

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Okay.

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Um, And one thing I learned out there, cause I've

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been out there a few times. I know where I

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am at and, uh, the roads get pretty wild. And

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so when we think of an hour and a half

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of travel, um, that could be totally different than if

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you're just going somewhere on the highway, it is a,

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it's a different story. Do you have any idea of

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how many, um, we're talking maybe a few miles or,

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or a lot of miles or.

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Um, it was, I mean, it was pretty out there. Um,

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I mean, you're going through washboards and I mean, I

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would not recommend taking anything that's not a four-wheel drive.

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There's lots of lumber roads. road that i mean lumber

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roads that they haven't used in a long time not

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like fresh ones that they are doing logging and stuff

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um but it's it's pretty it's pretty out there and

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i mean i was at this point i was i

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was close to the peak of that mountain there.

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Gotcha. So close to the peak of a large mountain

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in the area is what you're saying?

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Yes. And there's not a lot of traffic. It's really

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isolated there. I mean, it's a good place to be quiet.

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Yeah, absolutely. It's a good thing for something to hide into.

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I mean, it sounds like you're out there and nothing

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else is out there.

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And back then, I mean, the.

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The forest there was, it was thick.

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I mean, you had a lot of underbrush. You had,

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I mean, lots of trees, lots of fallen trees. And,

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and then I just thought it was really odd for

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it to be fall. And I came in the snow,

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but when I came down from the mountain and looked up,

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I couldn't see any snow.

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That is interesting. Um, I I've heard of, you know, not, uh,

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I'm a individual. I live out in the Midwest, but

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I mean, I do hear the stories, uh, where it's like, Hey,

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certain times of the years, you wouldn't think of it.

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Like you better have the chains on the car. If

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you're going over the, uh, the cascades and things like,

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it's just a while. It's, it's a different story out there,

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but I guess you never know if you're going to

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run into snow.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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It's yeah.

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Yeah.

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Absolutely.

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But yeah, I wish I, yeah, I wish when I

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could find the picture I took of the handprint on

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the side of my Jeep.

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But I have so many.

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Pictures to dig through that it was pretty hard to

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look back that far.

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Oh yeah, absolutely. If you ever do find it, I

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would love to see it, but no pressure there. So

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you kind of mentioned already that the kids were asleep.

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Was there any point when the kids were awake and

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they also saw the shadows or they were asleep the

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whole time?

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So my two younger ones were sleeping in the back

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seat and my older one was in the front seat

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and he did see the shadows as well. And he,

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he's like, he kept asking me like, what was that?

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What was that?

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And when they, when they came down the hillside, it

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was like a charge and they came charge. It was

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a big guy and he came charging down the side

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of the hillside right into the side of my Jeep,

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which was like right behind the back seat there. And, um, that's,

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that's what woke up my oldest and he could see

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the shadows then. And it was like, it was like

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we were encircled and I, I just hit the gas

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and I was like, we need to get out of here.

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And I, I floored it because it was just like,

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I shouldn't be out here by myself with the kids. I,

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I understand why you don't go out in the mountains

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by yourself now. And Yeah, it was, it was a

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really scary moment and I didn't expect my first experience

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to be like that.

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That's, it's an extremely intense, it's one of the more

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intense ones I've heard. So, so just to make sure

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I get it right in my mind. So you're driving

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all of a sudden something barrels down the side of

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the hill or the mountain towards your vehicle, hits it

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hard with his hand hard enough that you are knocked

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towards the side of the cliff and one of your

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wheels is off the road. Is that right?

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Oh my goodness.

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Back then I didn't know much about Bigfoot cause I

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didn't really follow. And, um, there was, it was almost

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like there was some kind of, I don't even know

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how to explain it.

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On my way before I turned around.

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There was like, I guess like a gruntural murmuring around and.

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I'm going up the mountain. So I'm thinking, okay, it's

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just the wind.

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It's just my life playing tricks on, you know, tricks

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on the signs and reflectors and everything. And so I

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was just like, I was trying to convince myself that

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it was nothing until it was, I was at the

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point where I was like, okay, there was something. And, um,

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but when I, right before um he came down the

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hillside it was there was almost like i i don't

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know it's like a howling shout kind of thing and

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then there was the big bang on my jeep and

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then that was my time to go i was i

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was out of there oh yeah And and I obviously

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was in some kind of territory that I was not

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supposed to be in. And I could understand why that

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gate was closed all the time.

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A hundred percent. I mean, how tall were the signs?

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You mentioned that they were larger than the signs out there.

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So, um, they do, there, there are signs there. Um,

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like you have your mile post signs basically. And then

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you have, there was, there was other signs and I

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can't remember what they said, but they were like your

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regular road signs that are diamond shaped. Okay. And, um,

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I mean, I was in my lifted Jeep and my

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Jeep was lifted about, I want to say it was

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like six inches at that time. And they were kind

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of level to the Jeep's roof.

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Okay.

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And if you were to estimate then how tall that

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would mean they were, what would you think?

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The shadows, gosh, the first ones, they seemed smaller. The

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further I went, the shadows seemed to have gotten larger

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and thicker. And I saw most of them were like

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side profile shadows. but a few, I like, I want

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to say like two or three of them were like,

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I could see it. They look like a huge football

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player kind of stance. And they, the big guys were

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probably about seven, seven, I would say about seven feet

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or more. And then the smaller ones, they were running

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about maybe six foot.

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Interesting. Um, but I know half the answer to this

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because one hit your Jeep, but, um, in general, how

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close would you say they were getting to the Jeep

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except for the one that, you know, besides the one

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that hit, hit it with, hit your Jeep with its hands.

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So a few of them, I felt like I could

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reach out and touch them. I had my windows up,

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but I felt like if I had my windows down,

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I could just reach out and touch. And then, um,

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There was others that were in the trees that, I mean,

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the hillside, it was right up by my Jeep because

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it was a narrow road.

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And if you were on.

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The passenger side, I mean, they were probably maybe four

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feet away from that.

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Oh, my goodness. So when you say they were in

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the trees, they were not up in the trees, but

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they were on the ground in the trees?

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No.

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They were on the hillside on the ground by the trees,

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but they were using the trees as like, because you

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couldn't see their shadows since they were in the trees

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and it was like dark. You couldn't really see their

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shadows very much, but you could hear them.

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Mm-mm.

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And, um, you can see the trees moving and it wasn't,

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and that was, that was me trying to conclude, oh yeah,

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it's the wind, but only certain trees were moving. Not

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like all of your trees would move with the wind.

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And yeah, that was, they, they got really, really close.

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And then I guess the further I went, the more

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uncomfortable that they were. And, um, they just wanted me

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out of there. And I had that, that feeling like

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I really shouldn't be here. I should turn around, but

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I want to see where this goes. And I kept

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going and it was just, and the further I went,

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I mean, the road was narrow and it twisted alongside

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of the hill. And like, it was just a complete

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drop on one side, on the driver's side.

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And it was, And it was like.

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It's snowing, it's not snowing, but there's snow on the ground.

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And it's like, okay, well, I think I should turn

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around because you do not get self-service up there either.

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I would definitely imagine that. Was there any point when

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you were able to see them as not a shadow

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and more clearly?

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That was about when I turned around. They had.

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They were dark.

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It wasn't like a dark red. It was like a dark,

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dark brown, almost black.

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And I.

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Saw the big guy heading down the cliff or down

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the hillside at me. And he was, I mean, if

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he was standing in front of my Jeep instead of

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hitting me in the side, he probably was almost as

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thick as my Jeep was.

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Okay. That's really interesting. So when that guy came down

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towards you, you're able to get a good look at him.

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It sounds like, were you able to notice any details

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that really stuck out in your mind about what was

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coming towards the Jeep?

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I just, I was really, really scared.

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The way that he came down, it was like, there

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was nothing that was going to be in his way.

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Including me.

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There's no, I mean, there was rocks and boulders on

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this hillside and he just, he went through them like

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they were nothing. And I could tell by the way

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that he was coming, he was not happy about my

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presence there. And I mean, it's to be expected. I

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rolled up on his family.

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And so, but, um, he.

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He, it didn't look like he had like a neck.

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It was more like he, maybe it was his fur

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that just kind of blended into his shoulders and, um,

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he kind of like, as he was coming down the hillside,

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he kind of like leaned into the hillside, like hunched

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over and his strides were probably about, I mean, he

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was taking big strides and he was able to just

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step over a boulder, like nothing.

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And he was definitely on a mission.

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I wish I wanted, the reason I went back the

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next day is because I wanted to go and see

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if there was any more footprints or anything.

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And we couldn't get past that gate because.

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In all of my experiences, I think he was the

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biggest one I've ever seen. His arms and legs were really,

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really thick and not just his shoulders or not just

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his chest, but like his, his shoulders, his arms, his

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legs were like.

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Massive.

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It was, I wish, I mean, I'd say probably about

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a 15 inch diameter on each leg.

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Well, were you able to see anything clearly about the

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head or the facial features at all when it was

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coming towards you?

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I couldn't really see his face because of all of

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the hair. Um, it wasn't, it wasn't.

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Like really short hair.

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It wasn't extremely long, but I mean, it was, it was,

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and with him hunched over, I couldn't really see his face,

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but his head, I mean, it was proportionate to his body.

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I mean, it was, it was pretty big around too,

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but as for his face, I couldn't see much of

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his face.

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Interesting. Have you ever seen any individual in sports or

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movies that come close, that comes close to the size

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of what was coming towards you that day?

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Um, close to the size, um, Andre the giant. Okay. Wow.

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That's pretty big. That's massive. He's a big, he was

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a big guy. Rest in peace. Uh, my goodness. Andre

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the giant. Fantastic. Um, so a few more questions about this.

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This is such an incredible experience. Um, now you mentioned

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you talked to some relatives. Um, did you ever re

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try reporting this to like forestry or anything, anyone in

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authority besides your relatives?

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Um, No, a lot of people I've noticed, I kind of,

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after I talked to my relatives, um, when I went

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to go talk to anybody else, they kind of just

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looked at me like I was crazy. And so I

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just kind of kept the story to myself after that.

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And so it's the first time I've actually ever really

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talked about it.

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Wow. That's, that's incredible. Thank you for that. That's that,

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that really. means a lot that you are, are trusting

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this platform with your experience. Why, why choose to come

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forward now?

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Um, my, we've, my husband now and I have, um,

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experienced a lot and he follows a lot of Bigfoot

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things and, um, He's.

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The one that got me in contact with you and

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told me.

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To reach out to you to share some of our experiences.

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This one that I just shared is one prior before

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I met him. And so I was relieved to be

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able to share that experience with him and him not

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be like.

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Okay, you're crazy. Absolutely. Yeah.

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Um, I was like, okay, well, yeah, I can, I

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can share the experiences and he's. He's very private. He

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doesn't like to share and talk a lot and everything.

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And so it's like, well, I can share our experiences

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and I can share my experiences. So I'll do it.

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Yeah.

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And thank you to him for, for reaching out to

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me through email. I remember talking to him recently. Um,

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now it's very, this, this story you alluded to this

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historical account, I found very interesting. You said that your,

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so your ex-husband's grandpa said this gate hasn't been open

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since the 1960s due to a Bigfoot attack. And there's

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a flipped over VW bus in the same area. I

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got that right, correct. Um, uh, so I guess leading

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up to that question is after this experience, When you

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have a traumatic Bigfoot experience, I've noticed that some witnesses

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will just completely shut down and they'll say, I don't

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want anything to do with this. But sometimes there's witnesses

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that really get into it and they're like, I need

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to figure this out. How did this affect you after

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you had your experience?

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Um, so I, I kind of freaked out.

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I didn't, I didn't really want to go out in

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the woods anymore by myself.

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I kind of just self-isolated. I didn't, I, I was,

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I was traumatized. That's a good word. She said, um,

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it was, it was like, I'm not going to go

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looking for it anymore.

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Um, I actually didn't get involved with Bigfoot a lot

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after that because of that experience. But going out with

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my husband now, he's kind of reintroduced me and we've

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had a lot better experiences than that.

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And it's something that I'm not.

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scared of anymore and more have like I guess of

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an understanding and respect of like okay well They're obviously

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not okay with me going over there, so let's not

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push it. And just like anybody else, you respect somebody's space.

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And once I got to that point of, okay, well,

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respecting how some things make me feel and how other

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things are reacting, it's been... I haven't had a traumatizing experience.

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I've had some.

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some questionable and, you know, okay, this is kind of weird,

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but not nothing like that again.

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I think it's a really important point that you brought

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up there where it really does come down to respect

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with when you're dealing with situations like this and you're

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out there and, you know, just have, have respect. Don't

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try to trick them. If you feel like it's time

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to go, it's time to go. Don't push it, right?

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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Absolutely. One more question about this first encounter here. So

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have you ever looked to see if you can find

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other experiences or encounters that have happened in the same

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area or any more information about the Bigfoot attack from

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the 1960s and flipped over VW bus?

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Um, it seems like the P the people I did

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talk to, um, they were, they were a lot older. Um,

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the ones from the, the, that remember the whole 1960s thing. Um, they,

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they were a lot older and they, um, some of

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them were bloggers at that time. And, um, they shared

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a little bit of like, oh yeah, I know what

471
00:28:23.759 --> 00:28:28.480
you're talking about. Or yeah, they described the whole scene

472
00:28:28.519 --> 00:28:32.220
to me of there's the bus flipped over and I

473
00:28:32.259 --> 00:28:39.009
guess what had happened was they basically was doing what

474
00:28:39.089 --> 00:28:43.150
I was doing and they just went further up and

475
00:28:43.190 --> 00:28:47.190
then they started having issues with their car and it

476
00:28:47.250 --> 00:28:52.089
ran out of gas. And then, so they stayed in

477
00:28:52.109 --> 00:28:58.390
the Volkswagen bus. And then I guess that night is

478
00:28:58.490 --> 00:29:02.150
when the Bigfoot came out and they wrecked the whole

479
00:29:02.210 --> 00:29:05.710
camp that they had there and flipped the bus over.

480
00:29:06.769 --> 00:29:09.289
And I'm not sure.

481
00:29:09.309 --> 00:29:11.569
That's where the story.

482
00:29:11.250 --> 00:29:13.650
That I was getting from them was, I'm not sure

483
00:29:13.690 --> 00:29:14.859
if the people made it out.

484
00:29:17.539 --> 00:29:19.420
Nobody really knows what happened.

485
00:29:19.059 --> 00:29:26.799
To the people that were there. But the forestry gate

486
00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:31.069
has been closed since then, I guess, except for when

487
00:29:31.289 --> 00:29:36.450
I went through. And when I talked to somebody else

488
00:29:36.569 --> 00:29:40.680
who goes and explores those mountains with me, and um

489
00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:44.109
they went up earlier that day and that gate was

490
00:29:44.230 --> 00:29:47.410
closed and so when it was open when I went

491
00:29:47.529 --> 00:29:53.309
up was was really really odd And I remember when

492
00:29:53.349 --> 00:29:55.410
I was up there, I was worried that, you know,

493
00:29:55.450 --> 00:29:57.819
the gate's going to be closed when I go back down.

494
00:29:58.259 --> 00:30:02.599
And luckily it was open still, but as soon, I mean,

495
00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:05.240
we woke up early the next day to go back

496
00:30:05.339 --> 00:30:06.920
up there and it was already closed.

497
00:30:08.980 --> 00:30:12.000
And that extra logger information makes it even more fascinating.

498
00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:16.700
If anyone has any more information about that whole historical account,

499
00:30:16.759 --> 00:30:22.009
please reach out. Email is bigfootsociety at gmail.com. But Gloria,

500
00:30:22.390 --> 00:30:29.430
what a way to really get into the whole Bigfoot situation.

501
00:30:31.819 --> 00:30:34.700
But I am glad that you're at the point where

502
00:30:34.740 --> 00:30:37.900
with your current husband, you're able to, it sounds like

503
00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:43.200
you're able to move past that. And also, I guess

504
00:30:43.220 --> 00:30:46.599
we'll hear about next what has happened to you since then.

505
00:30:47.059 --> 00:30:50.920
We're going down to, is it The Klamath area, correct?

506
00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:52.720
Yes.

507
00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:58.660
All right. Well, feel free to bring us through what

508
00:30:58.700 --> 00:31:01.640
happened to you down there.

509
00:31:02.200 --> 00:31:02.519
Yes.

510
00:31:03.700 --> 00:31:08.380
So we were originally camping and there was a fire

511
00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:10.400
and we had to be evacuated and we didn't want

512
00:31:10.420 --> 00:31:14.420
to ruin the whole trip with, okay, well, now we

513
00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:17.819
don't get to go camping. And so we decided, well,

514
00:31:17.859 --> 00:31:21.869
we're going to, take our RV and, um, make a

515
00:31:21.910 --> 00:31:26.210
little side trip and find a spot there. And we'll

516
00:31:26.230 --> 00:31:28.130
just camp for the night. Cause it was starting to

517
00:31:28.170 --> 00:31:32.910
get dark and, um, we find a spot and it.

518
00:31:34.789 --> 00:31:36.269
Is really, really dark.

519
00:31:36.670 --> 00:31:41.450
And it is the, the woods there get really, really thick.

520
00:31:42.099 --> 00:31:47.980
Like the further in you go. And, um, there was

521
00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:52.400
a cow. in the middle of the road that was

522
00:31:52.440 --> 00:31:55.599
just ginormous. It was, I don't, I don't remember cows

523
00:31:55.660 --> 00:32:00.420
ever being so tall, but, um, we passed this cow

524
00:32:00.460 --> 00:32:03.339
and we keep going and the road starts to wind

525
00:32:03.400 --> 00:32:07.819
and everything. We find a nice spot to park and, and, um,

526
00:32:08.619 --> 00:32:13.589
he starts to barbecue some hot dogs and bake for

527
00:32:13.650 --> 00:32:22.329
us to eat. And, and, um, me and the other

528
00:32:22.369 --> 00:32:26.599
girls um we're in the rv and him and his

529
00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:33.460
youngest are out cooking and his youngest is staring behind

530
00:32:33.519 --> 00:32:38.029
them at a certain part of the trees and he's

531
00:32:38.170 --> 00:32:46.369
like dad bigfoot's watching us and And my husband's like very,

532
00:32:46.730 --> 00:32:49.670
you know, has that feeling of something's watching, but he's

533
00:32:50.009 --> 00:32:51.930
just wanting to go about his business like.

534
00:32:51.809 --> 00:32:53.250
He's not paying attention.

535
00:32:54.130 --> 00:32:58.539
And then his son comes and sits next to him

536
00:32:58.579 --> 00:33:05.299
and says, Dad, now there's two. And, um, he, my

537
00:33:05.359 --> 00:33:09.000
husband then asked me, okay, well, can you, um, bring

538
00:33:09.019 --> 00:33:12.789
me some of the seasonings for this? And I was like, yeah, okay.

539
00:33:13.140 --> 00:33:17.670
And when I go, I have a seasonings in, in

540
00:33:17.690 --> 00:33:19.930
the RV and I go to take them out. And

541
00:33:20.690 --> 00:33:23.890
I remember standing on the step of the RV and

542
00:33:23.990 --> 00:33:27.390
I was like, I had this feeling of like, I'm

543
00:33:27.490 --> 00:33:29.410
not supposed to be touching this ground.

544
00:33:31.309 --> 00:33:33.750
And so I freeze up for.

545
00:33:33.609 --> 00:33:36.390
A little bit and I'm staring at the same part

546
00:33:36.430 --> 00:33:41.079
of the woods that I didn't realize that our, our

547
00:33:41.140 --> 00:33:46.359
son was staring at and my husband notices and, um, I.

548
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:51.289
Run out there, I give him the seasoning, I go

549
00:33:51.309 --> 00:33:57.529
back into the RV and, um, it was kind.

550
00:33:57.309 --> 00:34:01.349
Of scary for me because just that feeling alone kind

551
00:34:01.390 --> 00:34:05.500
of brought back to the past experience I had of like, no,

552
00:34:05.579 --> 00:34:10.079
I shouldn't be doing this. And he continues to cook

553
00:34:10.099 --> 00:34:13.000
the food and I have him bring it inside so

554
00:34:13.159 --> 00:34:15.059
we can eat. Cause I did not want to be

555
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:20.809
out there. And we, we eat our food and we

556
00:34:20.829 --> 00:34:24.369
start getting ready for bed. And I'm in the bedroom

557
00:34:24.449 --> 00:34:28.670
of the RV and I, changing into my pajamas and

558
00:34:28.769 --> 00:34:32.860
I have this feeling that something is watching me and

559
00:34:32.920 --> 00:34:36.039
it's not like something far away watching me I feel

560
00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:37.940
like it's like right on the other side of the

561
00:34:37.980 --> 00:34:41.550
window watching me but I can't see out of the

562
00:34:41.590 --> 00:34:44.530
windows because it's now dark outside and the lights in

563
00:34:44.550 --> 00:34:51.980
the RV are on and I tell my husband, I'm like,

564
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:55.139
something's out there and I can feel it watching me.

565
00:34:55.480 --> 00:34:56.920
And he's like, well, let's just go to bed.

566
00:34:56.940 --> 00:35:02.170
And so he goes to turn on or turns everything

567
00:35:02.309 --> 00:35:06.329
off and he goes to turn on. I think the

568
00:35:06.429 --> 00:35:11.769
heater or something. And the RV starts to like, not

569
00:35:11.829 --> 00:35:15.769
want to start for it. And then he's like, okay, well,

570
00:35:15.969 --> 00:35:19.699
this is really, really weird. And he tries to start

571
00:35:19.739 --> 00:35:24.260
the RV and it will not start. And we, the

572
00:35:24.340 --> 00:35:28.380
fridge stops working. Like we're just having all of these

573
00:35:28.460 --> 00:35:34.159
malfunctions and the RV all of a sudden. And you

574
00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:39.650
can hear, the footsteps around the RV and everything. And

575
00:35:39.670 --> 00:35:48.030
there's like these, these whoops outside. And he's like, we

576
00:35:48.110 --> 00:35:49.610
need to leave.

577
00:35:49.909 --> 00:35:57.119
We're not supposed to be here. And sorry, I'm trying

578
00:35:57.139 --> 00:35:57.880
to catch my breath.

579
00:35:58.679 --> 00:36:05.210
And so he finally, after probably about 10 minutes of

580
00:36:05.250 --> 00:36:09.389
just fighting with the RV, he finally gets it to start.

581
00:36:09.409 --> 00:36:12.840
And we, everybody's buckled at that time.

582
00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:13.800
We're like, we're leaving.

583
00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:16.639
And it seems like as soon as we said, okay,

584
00:36:16.679 --> 00:36:19.920
we're leaving is when the RV wanted to start.

585
00:36:20.960 --> 00:36:23.099
And, um, we left.

586
00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:28.110
And then the next day we came back, um, in

587
00:36:28.170 --> 00:36:33.090
our pickup and, um, checked out the area and there

588
00:36:33.130 --> 00:36:38.800
were these these dugouts all around where our rv were

589
00:36:39.019 --> 00:36:42.559
where like the dirt was dug out and it was

590
00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:46.289
kind of like a gosh i don't i don't know

591
00:36:46.329 --> 00:36:48.769
what they call it like in the military when they

592
00:36:48.789 --> 00:36:51.389
like dig out but they have like this berm in

593
00:36:51.449 --> 00:36:55.960
front of them And, um, but there was like three

594
00:36:56.000 --> 00:36:59.150
of them circled around where we were parked on the

595
00:36:59.190 --> 00:37:01.449
backside of the RV and where the, all of the

596
00:37:01.550 --> 00:37:03.050
pine needles were pushed back.

597
00:37:03.139 --> 00:37:05.780
The dirt was pushed back and.

598
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:11.610
Um, I remember when we were there, it stunk so

599
00:37:11.670 --> 00:37:14.639
bad that I was getting a headache.

600
00:37:15.539 --> 00:37:16.860
It was horrible.

601
00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:22.599
It was like somebody's really bad weed and a skunk

602
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:28.559
had a baby. And I had a massive migraine.

603
00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:31.030
And when we went back the next day, the.

604
00:37:33.289 --> 00:37:36.050
Smell was still there, but it wasn't as strong.

605
00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:44.119
But that was, that was our first experience.

606
00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:45.119
What year was this again?

607
00:37:47.230 --> 00:37:49.869
This was, this was recent.

608
00:37:49.889 --> 00:37:54.329
This was probably about 2005.

609
00:37:54.329 --> 00:38:01.389
Yeah. I think it was like early 2025.

610
00:38:01.369 --> 00:38:02.429
I was going to ask. Yeah.

611
00:38:02.469 --> 00:38:03.380
Cause that would 2025.

612
00:38:03.360 --> 00:38:03.440
Yeah.

613
00:38:03.449 --> 00:38:11.190
Cause that would be definitely more recent. So what, Uh,

614
00:38:11.309 --> 00:38:12.230
what time of year again?

615
00:38:12.550 --> 00:38:12.769
What?

616
00:38:14.590 --> 00:38:17.110
Um, it was, it was about summertime.

617
00:38:17.130 --> 00:38:23.980
Okay. Um, and then, um, I know then we got back, um,

618
00:38:24.099 --> 00:38:25.300
from that experience.

619
00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:28.679
My husband did so much research and found out that

620
00:38:28.820 --> 00:38:33.650
the Klamath tribe talks a lot about Bigfoot and say,

621
00:38:33.789 --> 00:38:36.010
you know, that's one of the places you don't go there.

622
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:39.119
And it kind.

623
00:38:38.860 --> 00:38:44.230
Of was like, okay, well, we've tried several different spots,

624
00:38:44.449 --> 00:38:48.090
but that spot, it seems like they really don't want

625
00:38:48.130 --> 00:38:48.630
you there.

626
00:38:49.230 --> 00:38:56.909
Gotcha. Right, exactly. How deep were the dugouts that were there?

627
00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:03.059
I'd say the dugouts were probably about two feet deep.

628
00:39:03.840 --> 00:39:09.340
And they were probably about, I mean... probably about six

629
00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:13.380
seven feet wide and you can you could see where

630
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:16.699
like they they dug in with their fingers and like

631
00:39:17.130 --> 00:39:18.650
threw the dirt behind.

632
00:39:18.309 --> 00:39:24.150
Them okay very interesting were the same children that were

633
00:39:24.190 --> 00:39:26.869
with you in the jeep also there during that i

634
00:39:26.869 --> 00:39:30.380
mean they would have been what like seven years older?

635
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:39.869
Yeah. that experience, I think, no, they were, um, we had,

636
00:39:39.889 --> 00:39:43.030
we had three, uh, he had his three children and

637
00:39:43.170 --> 00:39:46.880
my children were at their dad's house. Okay. My ex-husband's house.

638
00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:49.800
So yeah, we have, we have the Brady bunch.

639
00:39:49.860 --> 00:39:50.719
We have six kids.

640
00:39:50.800 --> 00:39:51.260
That's cool.

641
00:39:51.300 --> 00:39:51.639
Yeah.

642
00:39:51.800 --> 00:39:55.760
I get it. I get it. Very cool. But whatever works, right.

643
00:39:55.860 --> 00:39:59.860
There you go. So, um, man, very interesting. So It

644
00:39:59.900 --> 00:40:02.280
didn't scare you off the area though. It sounds like

645
00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:06.929
you guys, uh, kept going back, but into different areas

646
00:40:07.030 --> 00:40:09.710
and you had other things happen. Is that right?

647
00:40:11.030 --> 00:40:15.670
Yes. Um, so we could start the next experience.

648
00:40:15.849 --> 00:40:20.130
Absolutely. Um, so the next six, I don't know if

649
00:40:20.230 --> 00:40:24.119
it's like a different group of Bigfoot. Um, it seems

650
00:40:24.179 --> 00:40:30.599
like they have a very, um, more different, um, different

651
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:35.639
approach to things but we found another spot and we

652
00:40:36.059 --> 00:40:38.559
kind of stay away from the spot that I just

653
00:40:38.599 --> 00:40:42.619
talked about because it's obvious they're more protective over that

654
00:40:42.780 --> 00:40:48.320
one but this other spot we've had a lot of

655
00:40:48.429 --> 00:40:53.349
experiences down and to where it's like we've actually kind

656
00:40:53.389 --> 00:40:59.619
of named um some of them and um we actually

657
00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:01.420
made a foot cast of.

658
00:41:01.320 --> 00:41:04.960
Of one and um.

659
00:41:05.219 --> 00:41:08.519
But we went to this other spot and we we

660
00:41:09.340 --> 00:41:14.130
started camping there and the first time that they um

661
00:41:14.949 --> 00:41:17.650
they came and kind of introduced themselves and let it

662
00:41:17.690 --> 00:41:21.179
know you know they were there we were hanging out

663
00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:24.769
and towards the evening time, you could hear them, um,

664
00:41:25.110 --> 00:41:30.690
whooping and, um, walking around and you could hear like

665
00:41:30.909 --> 00:41:32.449
footsteps in the Creek.

666
00:41:33.269 --> 00:41:39.519
And, um, it was, it was kind of cool. It

667
00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:44.619
wasn't as traumatizing. And, um, that evening, um, we all

668
00:41:44.659 --> 00:41:45.980
got in our RV.

669
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:49.079
And we went to sleep and, um, I was, I

670
00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:53.260
stayed up and I was reading, um, a Bigfoot book

671
00:41:53.340 --> 00:42:00.199
that the, the evolution or, um, which I thought, yes,

672
00:42:00.340 --> 00:42:03.489
it was kind of a horror novel, right?

673
00:42:03.760 --> 00:42:04.829
Yeah. Yeah.

674
00:42:05.130 --> 00:42:08.309
And so I was reading that and my husband fell

675
00:42:08.349 --> 00:42:11.989
asleep and the kids were watching TV and we had

676
00:42:12.010 --> 00:42:18.570
the TV low and, um, we start hearing something, um,

677
00:42:19.199 --> 00:42:23.639
messing with the cab, the, um, cabinets on the outside

678
00:42:23.679 --> 00:42:28.559
of the RV next to where the bathroom is. And, um,

679
00:42:30.500 --> 00:42:34.989
We have one daughter that is really, really scared of

680
00:42:35.050 --> 00:42:40.449
things like this. And especially after her first experience, the

681
00:42:40.510 --> 00:42:44.650
one that I just described. And so she was like,

682
00:42:44.769 --> 00:42:47.230
what is that? What is that? And she's freaking out.

683
00:42:47.250 --> 00:42:50.969
And I'm like, just calm down, you know. And then

684
00:42:51.010 --> 00:42:55.329
you can hear more footsteps and something messing with the

685
00:42:55.449 --> 00:43:00.010
other side of the RV. And, um, I have my

686
00:43:00.050 --> 00:43:03.050
window open with the screen on, you know, it's like,

687
00:43:03.639 --> 00:43:05.699
and then my husband had his window open with the

688
00:43:05.739 --> 00:43:08.820
screen on, and those were the only two windows open

689
00:43:09.699 --> 00:43:14.949
in the RV. And, um, My husband feels the RV

690
00:43:14.989 --> 00:43:18.690
start kind of rocking side to side because of them

691
00:43:18.750 --> 00:43:21.489
messing with each side of the RV. And he wakes

692
00:43:21.610 --> 00:43:25.289
up and he starts telling the children, stop moving around,

693
00:43:25.329 --> 00:43:29.150
go to sleep. I'm trying to sleep. And then it

694
00:43:29.210 --> 00:43:31.880
stopped for a little bit. And then once he started

695
00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:35.940
snoring again, they'd start messing with the compartments again.

696
00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:40.389
And you could hear, like....

697
00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:46.429
Almost like a murmur, like a loud murmur from the woods,

698
00:43:46.530 --> 00:43:51.230
like a mom is getting on the children about, hey,

699
00:43:51.369 --> 00:43:57.219
leave that alone. Don't mess with it. And then on...

700
00:43:59.239 --> 00:44:02.960
the front side, the front, where the driver's seat is,

701
00:44:03.300 --> 00:44:07.909
they start rocking the RV side to side. Like, you'd

702
00:44:07.949 --> 00:44:11.909
hear them, like, kind of, like, chattering to each other,

703
00:44:12.110 --> 00:44:14.570
and they'd rock to one side, and then they'd chatter

704
00:44:14.590 --> 00:44:16.849
to another, and then they'd rock to the other side,

705
00:44:16.869 --> 00:44:23.409
and they would keep doing that. And, um, I was like, okay,

706
00:44:23.429 --> 00:44:25.190
it's time to put my book down and turn off

707
00:44:25.210 --> 00:44:28.590
the TV and everything. And just hearing us moving around,

708
00:44:28.829 --> 00:44:32.610
they'll leave us alone. And it stopped for a little bit.

709
00:44:32.789 --> 00:44:35.489
And then when I went and shut everything down, I

710
00:44:35.530 --> 00:44:38.239
went back to bed. I went to go close my

711
00:44:38.300 --> 00:44:41.559
window and I could hear them right outside my window

712
00:44:42.199 --> 00:44:45.579
with their chat, with their murmuring and chattering and their

713
00:44:45.619 --> 00:44:49.139
whooping and, um, I was like, I'm going to close

714
00:44:49.179 --> 00:44:51.699
my window because if they're trying to open the doors

715
00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:55.210
and they're trying to open the side compartments and they're

716
00:44:55.230 --> 00:44:58.389
rocking the RV, they might figure out how to slide

717
00:44:58.449 --> 00:45:03.250
a screen. So I'm going to close the window. So

718
00:45:03.349 --> 00:45:07.059
I closed the window. And the next morning I tell

719
00:45:07.079 --> 00:45:08.960
my husband, I'm like, you were yelling at the kids

720
00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:12.789
last night about like going to bed. but it wasn't them.

721
00:45:12.889 --> 00:45:16.409
Nobody was moving. And I didn't sleep much because it

722
00:45:16.449 --> 00:45:19.090
went on most of the night, but you should go

723
00:45:19.130 --> 00:45:25.860
check outside. And he found several footprints around outside of

724
00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:29.599
the RV and there's handprints on the side of the

725
00:45:29.739 --> 00:45:32.320
RV where they were trying to get into the compartments

726
00:45:32.840 --> 00:45:35.619
and where they were pushing on the RV and causing

727
00:45:35.659 --> 00:45:42.530
it to rock back and forth. And, um, That was

728
00:45:43.449 --> 00:45:48.449
our first, our next experience at that, our first experience

729
00:45:48.469 --> 00:45:50.650
at that spot, but our next experience on.

730
00:45:50.769 --> 00:45:55.639
Okay. What, how recent is this?

731
00:45:57.940 --> 00:46:03.260
That one was, that one was about 2025 too.

732
00:46:04.280 --> 00:46:09.260
Okay. Obviously later than the first one in the summer though.

733
00:46:10.280 --> 00:46:10.579
Yes.

734
00:46:11.039 --> 00:46:11.320
Yes.

735
00:46:11.639 --> 00:46:13.469
I mean, it was still summer, but it was just

736
00:46:13.510 --> 00:46:16.750
later in the summer. It was I mean, we go

737
00:46:16.869 --> 00:46:21.849
up quite often just because it's peaceful there and it's

738
00:46:21.909 --> 00:46:24.329
quiet and it's nice.

739
00:46:24.449 --> 00:46:25.469
Get away from home.

740
00:46:26.469 --> 00:46:29.949
Oh, yeah. One hundred percent. So do you have is

741
00:46:30.050 --> 00:46:33.449
this the one then where you have a cast of

742
00:46:33.469 --> 00:46:37.730
the footprints or do you have photographs of the handprints

743
00:46:37.750 --> 00:46:37.940
at all?

744
00:46:41.090 --> 00:46:46.269
I think my husband has some photographs of the handprints. Um,

745
00:46:47.150 --> 00:46:50.219
cause that was, that was another thing that happened that

746
00:46:50.280 --> 00:46:58.139
night was, um, my, that my phone, I don't know.

747
00:46:58.179 --> 00:47:01.760
That's what just says not like phones. My phone was

748
00:47:01.780 --> 00:47:04.119
at like 86%.

749
00:47:04.119 --> 00:47:06.440
But it was dead.

750
00:47:08.340 --> 00:47:13.199
And, um, the only thing, electronic that was working was

751
00:47:13.340 --> 00:47:18.829
the TV. And we had that rant through a solar generator. And, um,

752
00:47:19.809 --> 00:47:22.630
but I mean, as for our RV working, I mean, it,

753
00:47:23.170 --> 00:47:27.000
it didn't have any technical difficulties. It was just any

754
00:47:27.079 --> 00:47:31.480
kind of handheld electronic was dead. Yeah.

755
00:47:31.599 --> 00:47:36.510
That makes sense. Um, how, um, How long would you

756
00:47:36.750 --> 00:47:42.469
estimate the footprints and how wide the handprints that you saw?

757
00:47:44.909 --> 00:47:49.219
So the footprints, and we've concluded they're probably like an adolescent.

758
00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:51.460
They were probably.

759
00:47:52.840 --> 00:47:55.340
Because they're not as big as the other ones or

760
00:47:55.360 --> 00:48:02.219
as deep. And we have seen, like running across the

761
00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:07.260
trail or in the trees, smaller ones that were, I mean,

762
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:13.409
they're probably about maybe some are five foot. One of

763
00:48:13.489 --> 00:48:20.090
them we've concluded we think is a female and she's

764
00:48:20.150 --> 00:48:25.719
probably around the six foot size. Their footprints are a

765
00:48:25.719 --> 00:48:26.400
lot smaller.

766
00:48:27.300 --> 00:48:30.460
They're probably about, I'd say about.

767
00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:33.510
Maybe 14 inches.

768
00:48:36.489 --> 00:48:41.409
Okay. So yeah, definitely, definitely some, some younger ones going

769
00:48:41.469 --> 00:48:46.150
on there for sure. The, the handprints on the side

770
00:48:46.170 --> 00:48:48.590
of the RV, how did those line up with like,

771
00:48:48.650 --> 00:48:51.630
I don't know if you put your hands next to them.

772
00:48:52.030 --> 00:48:53.090
Sometimes people will do that.

773
00:48:54.639 --> 00:48:56.340
Oh, gosh, if I put my hand next to it,

774
00:48:56.440 --> 00:49:01.400
it's it's dwarf because my hands are small. But but

775
00:49:01.460 --> 00:49:07.989
my husband's it's he has some bigger hands and they're

776
00:49:08.789 --> 00:49:12.090
it's it's a little bigger than his hand. And he's

777
00:49:12.789 --> 00:49:18.699
he's about just over six foot. And um he's he's

778
00:49:18.739 --> 00:49:22.659
a bigger guy and i think he weighs like 290

779
00:49:22.659 --> 00:49:26.300
and so he's a he's a bigger guy and um

780
00:49:27.659 --> 00:49:31.159
yeah they're they're a little bigger than his hand okay

781
00:49:31.260 --> 00:49:38.780
but the the thumb positioning is completely different from from

782
00:49:38.860 --> 00:49:39.670
his hand.

783
00:49:40.130 --> 00:49:42.570
Tell me about that.

784
00:49:42.690 --> 00:49:45.429
So if you hold your hand in front of you

785
00:49:45.449 --> 00:49:49.920
and like just flat in front of you and where

786
00:49:49.940 --> 00:49:53.780
your thumb normally is, if you kind of stretch your

787
00:49:53.800 --> 00:50:00.110
thumb down, it's more of. It's kind of more of

788
00:50:00.190 --> 00:50:05.369
that kind of thumb positioned rather than our normal hand position.

789
00:50:05.510 --> 00:50:06.250
Does that make sense?

790
00:50:06.309 --> 00:50:08.869
No, it absolutely does. This isn't something I've talked about

791
00:50:08.889 --> 00:50:11.070
on the show, but I have a handprint from the

792
00:50:11.110 --> 00:50:14.429
Mount Hood National Forest and Cliff was nice enough to

793
00:50:14.510 --> 00:50:19.480
walk me through pretty much what you just said and explained. Like,

794
00:50:19.739 --> 00:50:23.639
look where the thumb is. It's because of their setup

795
00:50:23.739 --> 00:50:26.559
is different than ours is and pretty much just how

796
00:50:26.579 --> 00:50:30.860
you said. So that was very interesting to hear that

797
00:50:30.900 --> 00:50:34.179
from a different person. But yeah, you're absolutely right. It

798
00:50:34.380 --> 00:50:37.320
is definitely a little bit different for sure.

799
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:45.639
We have more experiences with this group. We've gotten it

800
00:50:45.699 --> 00:50:50.860
down to where when we go and visit, one time

801
00:50:50.909 --> 00:50:54.389
we took my sister-in-law up there and she wanted to

802
00:50:54.510 --> 00:50:59.119
find mini pine cones. And we were looking for these

803
00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:03.650
mini pine cones everywhere. And we always, we always try

804
00:51:03.690 --> 00:51:07.110
to leave a gift for them. And so we've lost

805
00:51:07.130 --> 00:51:10.090
them cherries and we've sat out there and like, this

806
00:51:10.170 --> 00:51:11.110
is how you eat it.

807
00:51:11.110 --> 00:51:11.989
It has a pit.

808
00:51:12.090 --> 00:51:16.070
Don't choke on it. Don't break your teeth. And like, and, um,

809
00:51:16.349 --> 00:51:22.400
they've eaten the cherries. They really like peaches. Um, but

810
00:51:22.539 --> 00:51:27.420
one time we brought them corn, like in the husk, like, And, um,

811
00:51:27.780 --> 00:51:32.730
we brought them corn and, um, this, this is.

812
00:51:32.889 --> 00:51:36.190
Um, another, another issue, uh, another experience.

813
00:51:36.309 --> 00:51:40.070
But we, um, we're, we were looking for little mini

814
00:51:40.110 --> 00:51:42.489
pine cones that day. And then we went back to

815
00:51:42.530 --> 00:51:45.769
camp and we called it a night and everything, and

816
00:51:45.809 --> 00:51:48.409
we could still hear them looping and walking around and.

817
00:51:49.190 --> 00:51:52.690
And they come and get their peach or their cherries. And, um,

818
00:51:53.730 --> 00:51:54.679
one night we left them corn.

819
00:51:56.199 --> 00:51:58.150
And, um, we came.

820
00:51:58.010 --> 00:52:04.170
Back and they had eaten the corn almost like a banana.

821
00:52:04.269 --> 00:52:07.949
Like they, they peeled the husk back and they ate

822
00:52:07.989 --> 00:52:14.280
the whole corn and the cob and left the husks there.

823
00:52:14.719 --> 00:52:17.019
And so we, we actually picked those up and we

824
00:52:17.059 --> 00:52:18.119
have those as well.

825
00:52:18.960 --> 00:52:22.409
But, um, where we had been leaving the gifts, they

826
00:52:22.429 --> 00:52:27.050
had left us flower petals and, a mini pine cone,

827
00:52:27.730 --> 00:52:31.610
like an immaculate mini pine cone right in the middle.

828
00:52:32.190 --> 00:52:35.670
And so we took those and, um, but it was,

829
00:52:35.889 --> 00:52:40.130
it's kind of cute because the, um, now when we

830
00:52:40.170 --> 00:52:43.989
go to visit, there's always a little pine cone there

831
00:52:44.030 --> 00:52:44.940
waiting for us.

832
00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:49.260
Oh, that's interesting. Like in the same area.

833
00:52:51.349 --> 00:52:54.730
Like they have a certain stump that they always leave

834
00:52:54.789 --> 00:52:59.190
it on. And that's where we leave our, you know,

835
00:52:59.250 --> 00:53:03.260
the peaches or the corn or whatever. And every time

836
00:53:03.300 --> 00:53:07.780
that we go, there's an immaculate mini pine cone. And

837
00:53:07.860 --> 00:53:10.920
I'm assuming it's because they've seen us walking around looking

838
00:53:10.960 --> 00:53:15.889
for mini pine cones. and um by the creek side

839
00:53:15.929 --> 00:53:19.510
you can see their footprints and that's when we got

840
00:53:19.570 --> 00:53:24.409
our cast and we've actually nicknamed one um which is

841
00:53:24.469 --> 00:53:29.300
the female she seems more comfortable with us because while

842
00:53:29.340 --> 00:53:31.420
we're sitting there during the day you can hear her

843
00:53:31.500 --> 00:53:33.659
on the other side of the creek just watching.

844
00:53:33.420 --> 00:53:34.320
Us or um.

845
00:53:36.199 --> 00:53:39.980
She she's not very aggressive she just a lot of

846
00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:44.219
times she watches us and she's she's on the shorter side,

847
00:53:44.260 --> 00:53:50.929
like I said, and she's, she's dark and she has,

848
00:53:50.949 --> 00:53:54.280
I mean, it's not long, long hair, but it is

849
00:53:54.519 --> 00:53:59.219
kind of long. And, um, you can hear her playing

850
00:53:59.260 --> 00:54:02.050
in the creek, you can hear her whooping, you can see,

851
00:54:02.329 --> 00:54:04.969
and sometimes she'll come right towards the edge of the

852
00:54:05.030 --> 00:54:07.170
creek in the trees to where you can see her.

853
00:54:07.190 --> 00:54:10.789
Or if we are having a fire, you can see

854
00:54:10.829 --> 00:54:17.619
her walking around the outskirts of our camp, right where

855
00:54:17.679 --> 00:54:22.059
that line is of light. She's like right on the edge.

856
00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:26.300
And we're pretty sure she's the one that's leaving us

857
00:54:26.400 --> 00:54:32.179
the gifts of many pine cones. And we've nicknamed her Catfish.

858
00:54:37.639 --> 00:54:42.719
Okay, so Catfish, the female Bigfoot, got it. Very interesting.

859
00:54:43.050 --> 00:54:43.360
Yes.

860
00:54:43.610 --> 00:54:45.110
Why did you call her that?

861
00:54:47.019 --> 00:54:52.079
Um, we, we nicknamed her catfish. Um, one, because, um,

862
00:54:52.139 --> 00:54:54.260
the first time that we heard her, she was playing

863
00:54:54.300 --> 00:55:00.610
in the creek and, um, I, she kind of, she

864
00:55:00.650 --> 00:55:03.349
kind of, I, we just kind of named her catfish.

865
00:55:06.110 --> 00:55:06.489
Fair enough.

866
00:55:06.510 --> 00:55:06.610
Yeah.

867
00:55:06.650 --> 00:55:10.389
It's sometimes, you know, you.

868
00:55:10.309 --> 00:55:13.550
Know, my, my nickname's goldfish, so.

869
00:55:14.150 --> 00:55:14.489
Got it.

870
00:55:14.710 --> 00:55:14.969
Okay.

871
00:55:15.210 --> 00:55:15.449
Okay.

872
00:55:15.469 --> 00:55:15.889
That's cool.

873
00:55:16.070 --> 00:55:16.429
That's cool.

874
00:55:17.369 --> 00:55:21.750
Um, so yeah, you're right. I mean, these experiences, they

875
00:55:21.809 --> 00:55:24.309
are totally different than the first one you had. It

876
00:55:24.489 --> 00:55:28.539
sounds like so far that this group has really been

877
00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:32.860
a positive experience. Have there been any non-positive experiences with

878
00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:33.440
this group at all?

879
00:55:35.219 --> 00:55:40.210
Um, no, not really. Um, they're, they're very, I mean,

880
00:55:40.269 --> 00:55:45.639
I took the girls on a walk around, and where

881
00:55:45.679 --> 00:55:48.380
we were camping and we went through the woods and

882
00:55:48.420 --> 00:55:53.489
walked down the rocks and everything. And, um, we did

883
00:55:53.510 --> 00:55:58.010
get to an area where, um, there was a really loud,

884
00:55:58.289 --> 00:56:05.179
like almost like a war kind of thing. And the

885
00:56:05.239 --> 00:56:08.059
daughter that we have that was, is kind of scared

886
00:56:08.079 --> 00:56:10.019
about that stuff clung to me. And I was like,

887
00:56:10.260 --> 00:56:12.739
that just means we're not supposed to be here. Let's

888
00:56:12.780 --> 00:56:16.079
just walk back. Like nothing's wrong. Don't walk and run away.

889
00:56:16.139 --> 00:56:20.630
Like you're scared or anything. Just let's just walk back. And, um,

890
00:56:22.150 --> 00:56:28.530
we found, we've explored that area, um, um, not before that,

891
00:56:28.610 --> 00:56:32.789
but after that, we've explored that area, um, with, with

892
00:56:32.869 --> 00:56:38.429
my husband and, um, there's trails and stuff. And we

893
00:56:38.469 --> 00:56:44.480
found where trees have been laid, like, like a shelter and, um,

894
00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:48.300
we've walked around there and you can, that's where we've

895
00:56:48.460 --> 00:56:53.199
came across, um, we're guessing the male of the group. Um,

896
00:56:53.489 --> 00:56:59.030
and he has, he has huge feet. Um, he's, he's

897
00:56:59.070 --> 00:57:02.250
gotta be an older, older one. Um, and while we were, um,

898
00:57:06.889 --> 00:57:09.269
we decided we're going to try to camp it that

899
00:57:09.889 --> 00:57:12.289
now we've kind of have a relation to them and

900
00:57:12.309 --> 00:57:14.429
they're bringing us gifts and everything we're going to try

901
00:57:14.469 --> 00:57:21.010
camping closer to to that area and um so we

902
00:57:21.210 --> 00:57:28.079
we started camping there and um I guess my husband

903
00:57:28.099 --> 00:57:33.380
was fishing there and he um he was catching these

904
00:57:33.420 --> 00:57:35.679
little fish and talking to them and then throwing them

905
00:57:35.739 --> 00:57:40.280
back and And he got to I haven't gotten to

906
00:57:40.340 --> 00:57:43.210
see the big guy yet, but he got to see

907
00:57:43.230 --> 00:57:45.909
the big guy and he was standing on the other

908
00:57:45.929 --> 00:57:50.409
side of the creek just watching him. And wasn't like

909
00:57:50.550 --> 00:57:54.190
any kind of aggressive or anything, just just watching what

910
00:57:54.230 --> 00:57:58.090
he was doing. And he stood up and my husband

911
00:57:58.130 --> 00:58:01.119
said he had to have been like over eight feet tall.

912
00:58:02.530 --> 00:58:08.300
And when we saw his footprints, those footprints are probably

913
00:58:08.340 --> 00:58:13.639
about three inches deep. And they're probably about, I want

914
00:58:13.679 --> 00:58:16.099
to say probably about 18 inches long.

915
00:58:17.440 --> 00:58:24.150
And as for wide, they were probably about, that's probably

916
00:58:24.170 --> 00:58:27.489
about nine inches wide.

917
00:58:31.579 --> 00:58:36.510
It's a big footprint. He seems to sit back and

918
00:58:36.550 --> 00:58:41.500
just watch the whole group where Catfish is. I mean,

919
00:58:41.539 --> 00:58:44.519
she still sits back and watch, but she does get closer.

920
00:58:45.630 --> 00:58:49.230
And the adolescents, they kind of, it seems like they

921
00:58:49.269 --> 00:58:55.460
just do what they want. Some of them, like I said,

922
00:58:55.480 --> 00:59:00.019
were like four or five feet tall. And they just

923
00:59:00.139 --> 00:59:02.440
kind of run around. You can hear them whoop. And

924
00:59:02.519 --> 00:59:05.690
it's not as deep as the big guys.

925
00:59:06.030 --> 00:59:09.929
And catfish is whooping.

926
00:59:10.019 --> 00:59:12.599
Is i mean it's not as deep as the big

927
00:59:12.659 --> 00:59:17.530
guys but it's not as it's not as um i

928
00:59:17.550 --> 00:59:23.769
guess like the adolescence it's just a little older um And, um,

929
00:59:24.070 --> 00:59:27.130
but they, they're very talkative and you can hear them

930
00:59:27.170 --> 00:59:32.579
talking back and forth and looping to each other. Um, they,

931
00:59:32.760 --> 00:59:38.099
we have had some tree knocks. It was just like, um, like, Hey,

932
00:59:38.159 --> 00:59:43.179
we're here or, um, but it seems like we're they're

933
00:59:43.219 --> 00:59:45.659
kind of, we're kind of getting used to their family

934
00:59:45.820 --> 00:59:48.590
and they're kind of getting used to our family. And it's,

935
00:59:48.889 --> 00:59:52.789
it's really nice to experience that they're leaving us little things.

936
00:59:52.889 --> 00:59:56.429
And so we leave them little things and it's, it's

937
00:59:56.750 --> 00:59:58.730
turned into a fun thing.

938
00:59:59.750 --> 01:00:01.110
Not so scary.

939
01:00:01.130 --> 01:00:07.530
This is, it's absolutely incredible. Man, I have so many questions.

940
01:00:08.400 --> 01:00:11.360
So how long ago was it that your husband had

941
01:00:11.840 --> 01:00:14.000
the sighting of the male?

942
01:00:15.420 --> 01:00:20.280
The male? Um, so we've been working with them for

943
01:00:20.340 --> 01:00:25.289
about a year and catfish was the first one to

944
01:00:25.329 --> 01:00:30.889
kind of really, um, come out. The male just happened

945
01:00:30.989 --> 01:00:33.710
probably about maybe a month ago.

946
01:00:33.849 --> 01:00:34.010
Okay.

947
01:00:34.030 --> 01:00:37.070
So July 20, 26, is there a nickname for the

948
01:00:37.110 --> 01:00:39.050
male yet? Or is catfish the only one that has

949
01:00:39.070 --> 01:00:39.570
been nicknamed?

950
01:00:41.440 --> 01:00:45.599
We've nicknamed catfish. He's trying, he's trying to, we were,

951
01:00:45.699 --> 01:00:48.219
we did come up with the name peaches because they

952
01:00:48.260 --> 01:00:51.429
like peaches, but we can't name the big guy peaches.

953
01:00:52.809 --> 01:00:56.710
That just seems wrong. So he's trying to, we're, we're

954
01:00:56.750 --> 01:01:00.469
trying to come up with a nickname for him. Gotcha.

955
01:01:00.530 --> 01:01:02.630
It's, it's, it's a work in progress. I get it.

956
01:01:03.809 --> 01:01:06.210
That's wild. And this is, so this is the first time,

957
01:01:06.230 --> 01:01:12.300
I mean, I haven't heard this any... Like, this is

958
01:01:12.340 --> 01:01:15.820
really the first time you're sharing this whole experience of

959
01:01:16.250 --> 01:01:17.849
you working with them, it sounds like.

960
01:01:20.110 --> 01:01:20.369
Yeah.

961
01:01:20.670 --> 01:01:21.010
Wow.

962
01:01:21.409 --> 01:01:25.409
Yeah, we don't... And we don't really want a lot

963
01:01:25.429 --> 01:01:28.329
of people to, like, go looking for them and just

964
01:01:28.730 --> 01:01:31.789
kind of ruin their whole home.

965
01:01:32.800 --> 01:01:35.840
And it's just so... We haven't really shared it a

966
01:01:35.860 --> 01:01:39.860
lot because, you know, they're... Do.

967
01:01:41.500 --> 01:01:43.880
You want me to take out and just say Klamath area?

968
01:01:44.260 --> 01:01:45.260
Like I totally can do that.

969
01:01:47.079 --> 01:01:48.500
Yeah, we can do that. Yeah.

970
01:01:48.559 --> 01:01:51.480
I mean, I, it sounds like you guys have something really, um,

971
01:01:51.719 --> 01:01:55.019
incredible going on. And I, I, I think Klamath is

972
01:01:55.119 --> 01:01:58.460
big enough that that would be maybe better. What do

973
01:01:58.500 --> 01:01:58.800
you think?

974
01:02:00.199 --> 01:02:01.059
Yeah, that'd be fine.

975
01:02:01.079 --> 01:02:01.800
Klamath area.

976
01:02:01.820 --> 01:02:03.219
Okay.

977
01:02:03.940 --> 01:02:06.079
Um, and then I'll catch that in editing.

978
01:02:06.139 --> 01:02:06.380
Okay.

979
01:02:07.860 --> 01:02:13.199
Wow, my goodness. So let's say out of you, your husband,

980
01:02:13.460 --> 01:02:17.119
and the children you normally have there, how many of

981
01:02:17.159 --> 01:02:20.309
the individuals that are usually there have had actual visual sightings?

982
01:02:22.010 --> 01:02:23.429
All of them. Everyone.

983
01:02:23.469 --> 01:02:24.309
How many people is that?

984
01:02:26.090 --> 01:02:30.820
Seven of us. Okay.

985
01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:33.639
And so you are, it sounds like you're not trying,

986
01:02:33.800 --> 01:02:36.179
you're just trying to have some sort of connection. I'm

987
01:02:36.199 --> 01:02:38.780
not getting a thing where it's, you're trying to take

988
01:02:38.840 --> 01:02:43.409
pictures or you're trying to record audio and like hunt them.

989
01:02:43.449 --> 01:02:44.030
Like you're just.

990
01:02:44.050 --> 01:02:47.530
Yeah. It seems like, it seems like if we're, if

991
01:02:47.570 --> 01:02:51.050
we try any of that, they kind of stay away.

992
01:02:51.690 --> 01:02:55.460
But I mean, if we don't have anything and we're not,

993
01:02:55.500 --> 01:02:58.380
we're just hanging out, then they, they come.

994
01:02:58.260 --> 01:02:58.760
And hang out.

995
01:03:00.300 --> 01:03:08.389
Fascinating. Based on what you all have seen, you know, Catfish,

996
01:03:09.170 --> 01:03:14.630
the male, everyone else, I know some witnesses describe what

997
01:03:14.670 --> 01:03:18.769
they see as something that is more like an undiscovered ape.

998
01:03:19.389 --> 01:03:26.449
Sometimes it's something more like a human ancestor that's undiscovered

999
01:03:26.710 --> 01:03:29.909
or even Native American. How would you describe what you

1000
01:03:30.590 --> 01:03:32.909
have been able to see.

1001
01:03:32.780 --> 01:03:34.070
In this area?

1002
01:03:35.179 --> 01:03:38.780
I mean, I say it's probably, I mean, Bigfoot's been

1003
01:03:38.820 --> 01:03:41.820
around for a while. The natives have even spoke about

1004
01:03:41.860 --> 01:03:46.920
him and everything. I think, you know, and if you

1005
01:03:46.960 --> 01:03:52.460
do more research, it seems like everybody, every country has

1006
01:03:52.500 --> 01:04:01.510
their version of the Ganapithecus. And America, you know, they say, oh, no,

1007
01:04:01.550 --> 01:04:02.349
we don't have that.

1008
01:04:02.409 --> 01:04:03.110
We don't have that.

1009
01:04:03.170 --> 01:04:05.940
But for every country to have a version of it,

1010
01:04:06.059 --> 01:04:09.840
I would think that, you know, America would have one.

1011
01:04:10.699 --> 01:04:14.679
And I think that would be Bigfoot because and as for,

1012
01:04:14.760 --> 01:04:19.760
you know, just staying hidden and like, I mean, that's

1013
01:04:19.969 --> 01:04:23.889
just because people haven't captured it and tested it.

1014
01:04:23.889 --> 01:04:27.489
And everything doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. And I.

1015
01:04:31.289 --> 01:04:36.900
Mean, the language that they speak is almost like a

1016
01:04:37.059 --> 01:04:46.050
native Indian language. It's almost like I wish I knew

1017
01:04:46.110 --> 01:04:49.690
what language they were speaking so I could communicate. But

1018
01:04:49.889 --> 01:04:53.889
the way that they talk to each other sounds native.

1019
01:04:54.929 --> 01:05:00.210
And it's not really like our English language. And it's

1020
01:05:00.250 --> 01:05:08.309
not really like your Spanish or your French. It sounds native.

1021
01:05:11.590 --> 01:05:16.809
But I think it's more like... You know, they're the

1022
01:05:16.849 --> 01:05:20.159
guardians of the earth, the guardians of the land, like

1023
01:05:20.219 --> 01:05:21.110
the natives say.

1024
01:05:21.599 --> 01:05:26.119
And that's kind of how I feel.

1025
01:05:26.320 --> 01:05:28.699
And it's just like, you know, if you're out there

1026
01:05:28.760 --> 01:05:34.099
respecting nature, I don't think that they have so much

1027
01:05:34.139 --> 01:05:35.820
of an issue with it, you know?

1028
01:05:35.840 --> 01:05:40.389
Yeah, absolutely. As we said before, it comes down to respect.

1029
01:05:40.630 --> 01:05:40.849
When.

1030
01:05:42.389 --> 01:05:45.150
When your husband had the sighting of the male, how

1031
01:05:45.230 --> 01:05:48.449
far away or what kind of distance was separating the

1032
01:05:48.469 --> 01:05:48.829
two of them?

1033
01:05:51.840 --> 01:05:55.920
They were probably about six to eight feet apart.

1034
01:05:58.780 --> 01:06:06.190
Okay. So six to eight feet apart. He's fishing. And

1035
01:06:06.230 --> 01:06:09.969
then there's one right there. Six to eight feet apart.

1036
01:06:10.030 --> 01:06:13.340
Yeah, on the other side. on the other side of

1037
01:06:13.380 --> 01:06:14.179
the creek.

1038
01:06:15.679 --> 01:06:18.679
My goodness how did that affect him because he's not

1039
01:06:18.739 --> 01:06:22.139
here so yeah which i can't ask him directly so

1040
01:06:22.159 --> 01:06:25.880
i was he like he thought excited or like freaked

1041
01:06:26.239 --> 01:06:26.679
out or.

1042
01:06:27.760 --> 01:06:30.179
Um he was just sitting there fishing and he he

1043
01:06:30.219 --> 01:06:32.719
thought it was really cool that you know the male

1044
01:06:32.760 --> 01:06:38.690
felt comfortable enough to finally introduce himself um but he

1045
01:06:38.710 --> 01:06:42.829
was just watching him like wow that's That's one we

1046
01:06:42.869 --> 01:06:47.420
haven't seen yet. But he was pretty excited about it.

1047
01:06:47.550 --> 01:06:50.739
But I mean, in the moment, he just stayed calm

1048
01:06:50.800 --> 01:06:54.420
and continued fishing and started talking to him just like

1049
01:06:54.460 --> 01:07:01.179
he was talking to the fish. And yeah, that's become like...

1050
01:07:02.050 --> 01:07:05.880
more more of one of our spots now because it

1051
01:07:05.889 --> 01:07:09.260
was just like okay well now that he he's comfortable

1052
01:07:09.320 --> 01:07:13.500
with us um because the other spot where we were

1053
01:07:13.559 --> 01:07:16.260
meeting with catfish and everything you can tell that she

1054
01:07:17.159 --> 01:07:19.619
comes to the spot where we saw the big guy

1055
01:07:19.639 --> 01:07:23.119
and you can see her footprints and everything and so

1056
01:07:23.360 --> 01:07:24.280
it's just like.

1057
01:07:25.760 --> 01:07:26.659
Just like.

1058
01:07:27.920 --> 01:07:32.179
We felt honored that they were sharing their private spot

1059
01:07:32.219 --> 01:07:34.269
with us.

1060
01:07:34.469 --> 01:07:38.949
That's absolutely fascinating. I can only wish myself to have

1061
01:07:38.969 --> 01:07:45.090
an experience like that someday. Hopefully it will happen. So

1062
01:07:45.139 --> 01:07:49.039
July 2026, are there things that have happened since then

1063
01:07:49.119 --> 01:07:51.659
as well? Yeah.

1064
01:07:52.480 --> 01:07:57.239
Well, we go up there pretty frequently because we're just like,

1065
01:07:57.320 --> 01:08:00.500
oh man, I'm sure catfish misses us. And so we'll

1066
01:08:00.519 --> 01:08:05.550
bring treats and gifts and stuff. But for the most part,

1067
01:08:05.630 --> 01:08:08.130
it seems like every visit now, it seems kind of

1068
01:08:08.150 --> 01:08:12.630
like the same. You'll hear them talking to each other

1069
01:08:12.809 --> 01:08:16.189
and murmuring. Sometimes you'll get a boop, like they're calling

1070
01:08:16.250 --> 01:08:19.829
them back in, like calling the children back in and like, okay,

1071
01:08:19.850 --> 01:08:24.460
it's time to come back. And, um, but like I said,

1072
01:08:24.500 --> 01:08:29.630
they're talking, you can, it's, it's like a native language and, um,

1073
01:08:30.930 --> 01:08:33.789
you can, I mean, we can hear them talking and

1074
01:08:33.829 --> 01:08:37.250
sometimes they'll be at on one side of our camp

1075
01:08:37.510 --> 01:08:39.840
and talking to the other one on the other side

1076
01:08:39.850 --> 01:08:46.430
of our camp. And, um, we haven't had them come

1077
01:08:46.520 --> 01:08:49.670
right into camp, but they stay on the outskirts and

1078
01:08:50.010 --> 01:08:51.930
you can hear them hanging out and talking to each

1079
01:08:52.029 --> 01:08:53.140
other and everything.

1080
01:08:53.210 --> 01:08:58.979
And has there ever been anything that's happened in these

1081
01:08:59.060 --> 01:09:03.859
areas that make you think that other people are aware

1082
01:09:03.920 --> 01:09:05.760
that these Bigfoot are there as well?

1083
01:09:08.039 --> 01:09:12.859
Um, there are signs, um, Like, there is a huge

1084
01:09:13.060 --> 01:09:16.979
tree branch hanging from a tree that, well, I couldn't

1085
01:09:17.039 --> 01:09:20.039
say hanging, but you can tell that this tree branch

1086
01:09:20.079 --> 01:09:24.220
was thrown into the tree. And there is no way.

1087
01:09:24.060 --> 01:09:26.350
That any person could have done it.

1088
01:09:27.130 --> 01:09:31.770
Because it's, I mean, you had to have, like, thrown

1089
01:09:31.789 --> 01:09:36.430
the tree, the branch at an angle of, like, For

1090
01:09:36.439 --> 01:09:39.510
it to come down from 12 feet to hang down

1091
01:09:39.810 --> 01:09:44.210
to about eight feet above the ground. There are like

1092
01:09:44.289 --> 01:09:56.130
broken trees. There's broken trees. There's footprints everywhere. So, I mean,

1093
01:09:56.989 --> 01:10:01.659
I'm sure other people have probably seen those kind of

1094
01:10:01.720 --> 01:10:09.630
signs and know that they're around. but I haven't, I

1095
01:10:09.670 --> 01:10:15.380
haven't talked to anybody else who has had any experiences. One,

1096
01:10:15.420 --> 01:10:20.600
because I mean, we want to keep that spot private and, um,

1097
01:10:21.000 --> 01:10:23.960
because we're working with them and they seem okay with us.

1098
01:10:24.260 --> 01:10:26.970
And so we don't want somebody to come in and

1099
01:10:27.229 --> 01:10:28.010
ruin it all.

1100
01:10:28.609 --> 01:10:31.390
Oh, absolutely not. You would definitely not want, which is

1101
01:10:31.470 --> 01:10:35.350
why we're going to be careful how we reference the area. Um,

1102
01:10:37.100 --> 01:10:42.539
Another something I've noticed in recent people I've talked to

1103
01:10:42.640 --> 01:10:45.619
up in Mount Hood area is that they've had experience

1104
01:10:45.680 --> 01:10:48.920
in an unmarked vehicles will be showing up almost within minutes.

1105
01:10:49.340 --> 01:10:52.119
That's something you're not dealing with down there, it sounds like.

1106
01:10:53.340 --> 01:10:55.260
We have had a.

1107
01:10:57.279 --> 01:11:01.739
Forest ranger show up and he's like, hey, have you

1108
01:11:01.760 --> 01:11:04.300
guys seen anything? And we're like, well, what are we

1109
01:11:04.340 --> 01:11:05.180
supposed to.

1110
01:11:05.060 --> 01:11:06.199
Be looking for?

1111
01:11:08.909 --> 01:11:13.359
And, and, and I was like, well, what is that? Hey,

1112
01:11:13.380 --> 01:11:15.220
you know, what are we supposed to be looking for?

1113
01:11:15.319 --> 01:11:16.880
And he's like, well, I just wanted to know if

1114
01:11:16.920 --> 01:11:21.439
you've seen anything. And we're like, no, we haven't seen anything.

1115
01:11:21.659 --> 01:11:25.510
And he's like, okay. And he's like, well, I'm just,

1116
01:11:25.689 --> 01:11:29.630
I'm looking for poachers and I'm like poachers. And he's like, yeah, that's,

1117
01:11:29.869 --> 01:11:32.770
that's a thing out here. And I was like, oh, okay.

1118
01:11:33.779 --> 01:11:36.100
And I was like, well, have.

1119
01:11:36.000 --> 01:11:37.479
You seen anything today?

1120
01:11:37.500 --> 01:11:40.239
He's like, well, I mean, I had to wrestle with

1121
01:11:40.300 --> 01:11:42.350
a cougar to get it out of a trap earlier

1122
01:11:42.359 --> 01:11:43.350
by myself.

1123
01:11:43.430 --> 01:11:45.890
That was pretty cool. And I was like, oh, okay, cool.

1124
01:11:45.909 --> 01:11:52.050
And he left. But I was just like, hmm, okay.

1125
01:11:53.250 --> 01:11:56.140
And the first thing he said to me is, have

1126
01:11:56.180 --> 01:11:59.319
you seen anything? And I'm like, well, what are we

1127
01:11:59.340 --> 01:12:00.640
supposed to be seeing?

1128
01:12:00.659 --> 01:12:03.060
That's highly suspicious.

1129
01:12:04.439 --> 01:12:06.500
Exactly.

1130
01:12:07.199 --> 01:12:09.880
My goodness. I've never heard anything like that. That's wild.

1131
01:12:10.000 --> 01:12:12.770
I think stuff is starting to go down, to be

1132
01:12:12.829 --> 01:12:18.069
honest with, that's just my personal opinion. Um, so in these,

1133
01:12:18.149 --> 01:12:22.029
this area that you're now focused on, um, are you

1134
01:12:22.109 --> 01:12:26.899
also experiencing other strange things that may not be related

1135
01:12:26.979 --> 01:12:27.560
to Bigfoot?

1136
01:12:27.579 --> 01:12:30.340
Um, yeah.

1137
01:12:34.140 --> 01:12:40.659
No, not really. It seems pretty peaceful and everything.

1138
01:12:42.979 --> 01:12:43.619
Not really.

1139
01:12:43.640 --> 01:12:47.000
Yeah, I wouldn't say I've seen anything else.

1140
01:12:48.119 --> 01:12:53.489
Gotcha. No unexplained lights in the woods, things like that?

1141
01:12:54.170 --> 01:12:54.409
No.

1142
01:12:54.609 --> 01:12:55.010
Okay.

1143
01:12:55.130 --> 01:12:55.550
No.

1144
01:12:55.710 --> 01:12:58.930
Cool, cool, cool. Have you.

1145
01:13:01.840 --> 01:13:05.699
Do you feel that there are certain ways that communication

1146
01:13:05.779 --> 01:13:10.199
is happening between your group and the Bigfoot group?

1147
01:13:12.239 --> 01:13:19.359
I think it's more kind of like sharing of, I mean,

1148
01:13:19.420 --> 01:13:26.960
if you go out there and you have this whole like, oh, well, yeah,

1149
01:13:27.079 --> 01:13:30.420
I guess it's your demeanor is what I'm trying to say. your,

1150
01:13:30.479 --> 01:13:36.609
your whole demeanor, um, your demeanor and your, um, like,

1151
01:13:36.890 --> 01:13:42.489
like we've said multiple times respect and, um, I mean,

1152
01:13:42.529 --> 01:13:45.130
we've gone out there and people have dammed up the

1153
01:13:45.569 --> 01:13:46.430
creek with.

1154
01:13:46.310 --> 01:13:48.489
Logs and stuff. And we've gone out.

1155
01:13:48.399 --> 01:13:52.279
There and swam out into the creek just to unblock

1156
01:13:52.340 --> 01:13:53.060
the logs.

1157
01:13:53.260 --> 01:13:57.239
And I mean, and they've watched us do it.

1158
01:13:58.520 --> 01:14:02.569
And just kind of leaving everything where the way we

1159
01:14:02.609 --> 01:14:06.430
found it and everything. it seems like, it seems like

1160
01:14:06.449 --> 01:14:10.609
they kind of respect us for doing that. And we're

1161
01:14:10.649 --> 01:14:12.850
showing our respect for keeping everything the.

1162
01:14:12.810 --> 01:14:18.430
Way it is. And, and, um, But, I mean, when

1163
01:14:18.470 --> 01:14:21.189
we talk to them, like, this is how you eat

1164
01:14:21.229 --> 01:14:24.939
a cherry. It has pits. And it seems like they

1165
01:14:25.000 --> 01:14:29.319
understand or they're watching us so closely. And I'd.

1166
01:14:31.380 --> 01:14:34.800
Say more like body language and how you carry yourself

1167
01:14:34.880 --> 01:14:40.399
while you're being watched and caring. the kind of learning, like, um,

1168
01:14:40.680 --> 01:14:43.829
they've seen us get into the compartments of our RV

1169
01:14:44.670 --> 01:14:48.550
and put things away and open them up and take

1170
01:14:48.609 --> 01:14:52.289
things out. And so they're trying to turn the knobs,

1171
01:14:52.350 --> 01:14:56.560
like they watched us and open the compartments the same way. And.

1172
01:15:01.380 --> 01:15:05.930
It's, it's a really fascinating, um, I mean, it's something

1173
01:15:05.949 --> 01:15:07.989
that is happening to you currently, but it's really a

1174
01:15:08.090 --> 01:15:12.829
fascinating case study as well. I'm getting just kind of

1175
01:15:13.449 --> 01:15:17.439
thinking over everything you've shared. You guys are, it's not

1176
01:15:17.520 --> 01:15:21.020
only a sphere of respect, but also you guys are

1177
01:15:21.060 --> 01:15:24.640
in a way an advocate for the nature in that area. Like,

1178
01:15:25.199 --> 01:15:28.600
as you said, you know, if someone dams up an area,

1179
01:15:28.680 --> 01:15:31.289
breaking it down. So it's back to how it was originally.

1180
01:15:31.930 --> 01:15:34.489
probably picking up trash. I would imagine if someone has

1181
01:15:34.550 --> 01:15:42.159
left trash there, that's your, your camera that pretty quickly. Um, yeah,

1182
01:15:43.000 --> 01:15:45.819
my goodness. That is, that is absolutely fascinating. Are, are

1183
01:15:45.840 --> 01:15:49.140
there any other, um, times that you could think of

1184
01:15:49.239 --> 01:15:55.050
where you have had, um, a actual, um, like a

1185
01:15:55.409 --> 01:16:00.289
visual sighting, um, You've mentioned catfish so far and your

1186
01:16:00.350 --> 01:16:03.289
husband seeing the one six to eight feet away.

1187
01:16:06.109 --> 01:16:06.439
Yes.

1188
01:16:06.560 --> 01:16:09.920
And then the kids have seen the adolescents, like when

1189
01:16:09.939 --> 01:16:13.140
we're out having a fire or whatever, you can see

1190
01:16:13.159 --> 01:16:17.800
the adolescents playing on the outskirts of the light from

1191
01:16:17.819 --> 01:16:23.350
the fire of like they're they're running back and forth and, um,

1192
01:16:24.550 --> 01:16:27.979
sometimes they're playing with sticks. Um, we want to bring

1193
01:16:27.989 --> 01:16:31.060
them a ball that way we can actually see the

1194
01:16:31.159 --> 01:16:36.180
adolescents playing, but it seems like the, um, the kids

1195
01:16:36.239 --> 01:16:40.739
see more of the adolescents and, um, there is, it

1196
01:16:40.840 --> 01:16:47.550
seems so when the big guy is, is around our camp, um,

1197
01:16:49.579 --> 01:16:53.359
I sleep really well, and my husband's up all night

1198
01:16:53.640 --> 01:16:59.090
listening to him. But when Catfish is around the camp,

1199
01:16:59.810 --> 01:17:03.630
he sleeps really well, and I'm up listening to her

1200
01:17:03.789 --> 01:17:09.810
and the kids playing, or the adolescents playing. And we

1201
01:17:09.829 --> 01:17:13.779
have noticed, we have caught on to that, to where

1202
01:17:14.000 --> 01:17:17.930
we find that kind of strange sometimes. Because it's just like, okay, well,

1203
01:17:17.970 --> 01:17:21.560
the dominant male is outside and I can sleep well,

1204
01:17:21.640 --> 01:17:25.760
but he can't. And then when the dominant female is outside,

1205
01:17:25.779 --> 01:17:28.239
I'm up all night and he can't sleep.

1206
01:17:31.899 --> 01:17:34.060
Do you have any thoughts about why that might be

1207
01:17:34.149 --> 01:17:34.529
the case?

1208
01:17:38.850 --> 01:17:43.229
Not really, other than, you know, I guess, I mean,

1209
01:17:43.689 --> 01:17:44.409
just basic.

1210
01:17:46.350 --> 01:17:50.229
basic biology, I guess. I mean, usually when you have,

1211
01:17:51.710 --> 01:17:57.449
I don't, I, I'm not sure, maybe, I don't know.

1212
01:17:57.470 --> 01:17:57.550
Yeah.

1213
01:17:58.909 --> 01:18:02.090
I just, I have no idea myself. That is, that's, uh,

1214
01:18:02.770 --> 01:18:07.770
that's a really unique one. Um, most people I hear.

1215
01:18:07.789 --> 01:18:11.170
So let's say if you've got a situation where a

1216
01:18:12.770 --> 01:18:16.800
Bigfoot is reaching out, to connect with someone in an

1217
01:18:17.020 --> 01:18:22.279
area like this. And there's maybe even, not even visually,

1218
01:18:22.319 --> 01:18:25.390
but sometimes, you know, if it could be like a

1219
01:18:25.439 --> 01:18:28.090
dream or something like that, a lot of times it's like,

1220
01:18:29.029 --> 01:18:31.550
if you're a male, there's a female one that will

1221
01:18:31.590 --> 01:18:33.949
reach out to you and vice versa. So it's kind

1222
01:18:34.010 --> 01:18:36.609
of a unique situation based on what I've heard where,

1223
01:18:37.109 --> 01:18:41.300
you know, you have Yourself and Catfish and then your

1224
01:18:41.359 --> 01:18:47.270
husband and the male of the group. So kind of cool.

1225
01:18:48.229 --> 01:18:48.409
What?

1226
01:18:50.779 --> 01:18:54.659
What is... Do you guys have a certain goal that

1227
01:18:54.680 --> 01:19:01.529
you are working towards with this family or group? I

1228
01:19:03.170 --> 01:19:05.930
don't really even know what we call a family group

1229
01:19:06.029 --> 01:19:09.470
of Bigfoot, but... Do you have any goals that you're

1230
01:19:09.510 --> 01:19:12.310
working towards or just a connection?

1231
01:19:14.489 --> 01:19:17.279
Um, no, not really a goal. I mean, it'd be

1232
01:19:17.680 --> 01:19:20.859
cool to eventually get them comfortable enough to where they

1233
01:19:20.880 --> 01:19:28.380
want to come closer. Um, like actually, um, it'd be

1234
01:19:28.399 --> 01:19:30.289
kind of cool to sit down and fish the river and,

1235
01:19:30.300 --> 01:19:34.420
you know, just one of them comes sit next to us. But, um,

1236
01:19:34.819 --> 01:19:37.140
it seems like we've already kind of gotten to that

1237
01:19:37.220 --> 01:19:40.319
point and they're just on the other side of the Creek. Um,

1238
01:19:40.899 --> 01:19:43.550
so no, we don't really have a goal. It's just

1239
01:19:43.699 --> 01:19:47.829
kind of cohabitating when we go camping.

1240
01:19:47.850 --> 01:19:53.430
I absolutely love it. I, I think it is a

1241
01:19:53.470 --> 01:19:59.529
very cool, life experience, but also experiment. It's not really experiment.

1242
01:19:59.569 --> 01:20:04.029
It's a life experience. But I'd say thank you for

1243
01:20:04.090 --> 01:20:07.199
sharing what you guys have got going on, Gloria. I

1244
01:20:08.460 --> 01:20:10.739
want to make sure that you were able to share

1245
01:20:11.340 --> 01:20:14.859
everything that you wanted to share on the show today.

1246
01:20:14.880 --> 01:20:17.680
It's been a really fascinating conversation.

1247
01:20:19.500 --> 01:20:23.409
Yeah, I think that pretty sums up all of my experiences.

1248
01:20:24.699 --> 01:20:27.539
Fantastic. Well, again, say thank you to your husband for

1249
01:20:27.779 --> 01:20:31.739
reaching out and for getting us connected. And, you know,

1250
01:20:31.779 --> 01:20:38.199
keep me in the loop, you know, maybe even check

1251
01:20:38.260 --> 01:20:42.119
in with you in a year or so. And who

1252
01:20:42.159 --> 01:20:44.720
knows what will happen next with you guys out in

1253
01:20:44.739 --> 01:20:47.699
the Klamath area. But it's been a pleasure talking to

1254
01:20:47.739 --> 01:20:49.920
you today. Thank you so much for coming on the show, Gloria.

1255
01:20:49.939 --> 01:20:51.520
Thank you.

1256
01:20:53.260 --> 01:20:55.399
A special thank you to Gloria for coming on the

1257
01:20:55.439 --> 01:20:58.579
show today. If you've had a Bigfoot encounter of your own,

1258
01:20:58.779 --> 01:21:00.510
I would love to hear from you. You can send

1259
01:21:00.550 --> 01:21:05.710
me an email with your encounter at bigfootsociety at gmail.com.

1260
01:21:05.789 --> 01:21:08.890
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1261
01:21:08.890 --> 01:21:14.029
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01:21:14.069 --> 01:21:18.850
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01:21:18.890 --> 01:21:20.850
Bigfoot Society, and I'll see you in the woods.