Something Slammed a Mother’s Jeep Toward a Cliff Near Silver Falls

0:00 Just as I got turned around, something hit the side of my Jeep and pushed. Me towards the cliff. And one of my. Tires was now hanging off to the side of the road. In 2018, Gloria drove through an open gate into Oregon's remote Silver Falls wilderness. with her children in the Jeep. Upright shadows began crossing the snow-covered road, and the gate carried a history she would only learn after returning. What was moving alongside her vehicle that night? I'm Jeremiah Byron, and this is Bigfoot Society. We'll start with my first experience. I wasn't really a Bigfoot believer, and my ex-husband and I used to explore lots of mountain ranges and just go for drives.

0:43 I had my Jeep, and I felt like I could just go anywhere. And one night we were having a disagreement. So I loaded the kids up in my Jeep and we went for a drive up towards like the Silver Falls wilderness area. And I've been told several times not to go out there by myself, but I figured I'm in my Jeep and I'll be fine. I know the roads. Well, while I was up on the mountain, I, um. Came up across a road that we hadn't gotten to explore yet because the gates usually closed and locked. And this was about.

1:23 Probably towards like the beginning of fall. And, um, Around that area, we don't usually get snow by then, but as I continued up this road, it was a pretty narrow road. We had a cliff on one side and then a hillside on the other, and it got down to where it was like a one lane. My Jeep was pretty tight. And I drive up. This road for quite a while and I run in the snow, which was really odd to me. And then I start seeing like these shadows everywhere. run across the road.

2:10 And I'm like, well, maybe it's just my lights reflecting off the snow. And it's, you know, I'm out in the woods, of course, I'm going to see things. And the shadows were, I mean, they were larger than the signs and walking upright as they crossed. And so I, I thought nothing of it and continued down. And I. Kept seeing more and more. And I got. I got this really eerie feeling like I shouldn't be down here. And the road kept getting worse with the snow and everything. And I started seeing these shadows pass in my rearview mirror and not just in my headlights.

2:59 And I could see the trees moving and almost shadows on my right side where the hillside was. And my left side's like a drop-off cliff. And I was like, okay, well, I've had enough. There's nowhere to turn around. So I, I managed to do like a five point turnaround and get to where my Jeep was facing downhill to where I can follow the trail I. Took up back down. And just as I got turned around, Something hit the side of my Jeep and pushed. Me towards the cliff. And one of my tires was now hanging off to the side of the road. And I....

3:45 Oh, gosh. And my kids were sleeping in the back. And at this point, I was kind of freaking out. And my Jeep was already in four-wheel drive because of the snow. And I took off and raced down the hillside and back home. And when I got home, to this day, there's still dents in the side of my Jeep of a huge handprint. And I've had my. husband now, um, he's actually fit his hand into it and it's, it's a lot bigger than his hand. And he's, he's a pretty big guy. And, um, that was, that was a really scary moment. I went and told my ex-husband's, um, grandpa about it and my ex-husband, and we went back up the next day and, um, The gate was closed at that point.

4:47 And but you can see my tire tracks. On the other side of the gate, like where I had driven through the previous night. And his grandpa told me that that gate hasn't been open since the 60s. Due to a big foot attack. Um, and if I went like maybe a half mile further down that road, there's actually a Volkswagen bus that has been flipped over and abandoned and everything from way back in the sixties. And so that's why that gate's always been closed. And I've gone up again, several times since then, and the gate is still closed.

5:30 I've talked to a lot of. People in that area and they believe that, you know, my first experience, it was more like Bigfoot was doing like more of a luring kind of technique. And I've never experienced anything like that before or since then. But that was my very first experience. Gloria, that is absolutely amazing. intense uh my goodness i have a few questions for you and i think it might be good to for us to go over that right now before uh your other encounter but so yeah my goodness a few things to ask you about so a lot of people are going to be this is actually a question i asked you before too but um so this is not the silver falls state park area this is different than that correct.

6:24 Yes, this is the Silver Falls Wilderness area. Okay, and then is there any other way to describe what area that is? It's not one that I see coming up on maps when you search for, like, Silver Falls Wilderness. So they do have, like, a back road that goes from Silver Falls all the way through, and it'll take you to Highway 22, right? Okay, so it's south of the state park then? It's kind of like southeast. Got it.

7:07 Okay, I know exactly what you're talking about now. Okay, yeah, sure. That area is extremely rugged from what I've heard about. I've never been out there. This was before the fires of 2020, right? This was quite a few years ago. So I'm sure fires affected that area quite a bit. Oh, absolutely. And that's, that's another question I was actually going to ask you. Uh, what approximate year was this that that happened? This was probably about 2018. Okay. So, I mean, that is, that's relatively recent. That's less than 10 years. Um, That is, that is recent for you. Um, how far out there were you when you started seeing the shadows, uh, crossing the road?

8:05 Um, so I've been, I was on the dirt road. I mean, I left the highway and was on the dirt road for probably about a good hour and a half. Okay. Um, And one thing I learned out there, cause I've been out there a few times. I know where I am at and, uh, the roads get pretty wild. And so when we think of an hour and a half of travel, um, that could be totally different than if you're just going somewhere on the highway, it is a, it's a different story. Do you have any idea of how many, um, we're talking maybe a few miles or, or a lot of miles or. Um, it was, I mean, it was pretty out there. Um, I mean, you're going through washboards and I mean, I would not recommend taking anything that's not a four-wheel drive.

8:59 There's lots of lumber roads. road that i mean lumber roads that they haven't used in a long time not like fresh ones that they are doing logging and stuff um but it's it's pretty it's pretty out there and i mean i was at this point i was i was close to the peak of that mountain there. Gotcha. So close to the peak of a large mountain in the area is what you're saying? Yes. And there's not a lot of traffic. It's really isolated there. I mean, it's a good place to be quiet.

9:47 Yeah, absolutely. It's a good thing for something to hide into. I mean, it sounds like you're out there and nothing else is out there. And back then, I mean, the. The forest there was, it was thick. I mean, you had a lot of underbrush. You had, I mean, lots of trees, lots of fallen trees. And, and then I just thought it was really odd for it to be fall. And I came in the snow, but when I came down from the mountain and looked up, I couldn't see any snow. That is interesting. Um, I I've heard of, you know, not, uh, I'm a individual. I live out in the Midwest, but I mean, I do hear the stories, uh, where it's like, Hey, certain times of the years, you wouldn't think of it.

10:36 Like you better have the chains on the car. If you're going over the, uh, the cascades and things like, it's just a while. It's, it's a different story out there, but I guess you never know if you're going to run into snow. Right. Yeah. It's yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. But yeah, I wish I, yeah, I wish when I could find the picture I took of the handprint on the side of my Jeep. But I have so many. Pictures to dig through that it was pretty hard to look back that far. Oh yeah, absolutely. If you ever do find it, I would love to see it, but no pressure there. So you kind of mentioned already that the kids were asleep.

11:19 Was there any point when the kids were awake and they also saw the shadows or they were asleep the whole time? So my two younger ones were sleeping in the back seat and my older one was in the front seat and he did see the shadows as well. And he, he's like, he kept asking me like, what was that? What was that? And when they, when they came down the hillside, it was like a charge and they came charge. It was a big guy and he came charging down the side of the hillside right into the side of my Jeep, which was like right behind the back seat there. And, um, that's, that's what woke up my oldest and he could see the shadows then. And it was like, it was like we were encircled and I, I just hit the gas and I was like, we need to get out of here.

12:18 And I, I floored it because it was just like, I shouldn't be out here by myself with the kids. I, I understand why you don't go out in the mountains by yourself now. And Yeah, it was, it was a really scary moment and I didn't expect my first experience to be like that. That's, it's an extremely intense, it's one of the more intense ones I've heard. So, so just to make sure I get it right in my mind. So you're driving all of a sudden something barrels down the side of the hill or the mountain towards your vehicle, hits it hard with his hand hard enough that you are knocked towards the side of the cliff and one of your wheels is off the road. Is that right?

13:02 Yes. Yes. Oh my goodness. Back then I didn't know much about Bigfoot cause I didn't really follow. And, um, there was, it was almost like there was some kind of, I don't even know how to explain it. On my way before I turned around. There was like, I guess like a gruntural murmuring around and. I'm going up the mountain. So I'm thinking, okay, it's just the wind. It's just my life playing tricks on, you know, tricks on the signs and reflectors and everything. And so I was just like, I was trying to convince myself that it was nothing until it was, I was at the point where I was like, okay, there was something. And, um, but when I, right before um he came down the hillside it was there was almost like i i don't know it's like a howling shout kind of thing and then there was the big bang on my jeep and then that was my time to go i was i was out of there oh yeah And and I obviously was in some kind of territory that I was not supposed to be in. And I could understand why that gate was closed all the time.

14:26 A hundred percent. I mean, how tall were the signs? You mentioned that they were larger than the signs out there. So, um, they do, there, there are signs there. Um, like you have your mile post signs basically. And then you have, there was, there was other signs and I can't remember what they said, but they were like your regular road signs that are diamond shaped. Okay. And, um, I mean, I was in my lifted Jeep and my Jeep was lifted about, I want to say it was like six inches at that time. And they were kind of level to the Jeep's roof.

15:15 Okay. And if you were to estimate then how tall that would mean they were, what would you think? The shadows, gosh, the first ones, they seemed smaller. The further I went, the shadows seemed to have gotten larger and thicker. And I saw most of them were like side profile shadows. but a few, I like, I want to say like two or three of them were like, I could see it. They look like a huge football player kind of stance. And they, the big guys were probably about seven, seven, I would say about seven feet or more. And then the smaller ones, they were running about maybe six foot.

16:11 Interesting. Um, but I know half the answer to this because one hit your Jeep, but, um, in general, how close would you say they were getting to the Jeep except for the one that, you know, besides the one that hit, hit it with, hit your Jeep with its hands. So a few of them, I felt like I could reach out and touch them. I had my windows up, but I felt like if I had my windows down, I could just reach out and touch. And then, um, There was others that were in the trees that, I mean, the hillside, it was right up by my Jeep because it was a narrow road.

16:55 And if you were on. The passenger side, I mean, they were probably maybe four feet away from that. Oh, my goodness. So when you say they were in the trees, they were not up in the trees, but they were on the ground in the trees? No. They were on the hillside on the ground by the trees, but they were using the trees as like, because you couldn't see their shadows since they were in the trees and it was like dark. You couldn't really see their shadows very much, but you could hear them. Mm-mm. And, um, you can see the trees moving and it wasn't, and that was, that was me trying to conclude, oh yeah, it's the wind, but only certain trees were moving. Not like all of your trees would move with the wind.

17:44 And yeah, that was, they, they got really, really close. And then I guess the further I went, the more uncomfortable that they were. And, um, they just wanted me out of there. And I had that, that feeling like I really shouldn't be here. I should turn around, but I want to see where this goes. And I kept going and it was just, and the further I went, I mean, the road was narrow and it twisted alongside of the hill. And like, it was just a complete drop on one side, on the driver's side. And it was, And it was like. It's snowing, it's not snowing, but there's snow on the ground.

18:27 And it's like, okay, well, I think I should turn around because you do not get self-service up there either. I would definitely imagine that. Was there any point when you were able to see them as not a shadow and more clearly? That was about when I turned around. They had. They were dark. It wasn't like a dark red. It was like a dark, dark brown, almost black. And I. Saw the big guy heading down the cliff or down the hillside at me. And he was, I mean, if he was standing in front of my Jeep instead of hitting me in the side, he probably was almost as thick as my Jeep was.

19:22 Okay. That's really interesting. So when that guy came down towards you, you're able to get a good look at him. It sounds like, were you able to notice any details that really stuck out in your mind about what was coming towards the Jeep? I just, I was really, really scared. The way that he came down, it was like, there was nothing that was going to be in his way. Including me. There's no, I mean, there was rocks and boulders on this hillside and he just, he went through them like they were nothing. And I could tell by the way that he was coming, he was not happy about my presence there. And I mean, it's to be expected. I rolled up on his family.

20:15 And so, but, um, he. He, it didn't look like he had like a neck. It was more like he, maybe it was his fur that just kind of blended into his shoulders and, um, he kind of like, as he was coming down the hillside, he kind of like leaned into the hillside, like hunched over and his strides were probably about, I mean, he was taking big strides and he was able to just step over a boulder, like nothing. And he was definitely on a mission. I wish I wanted, the reason I went back the next day is because I wanted to go and see if there was any more footprints or anything.

21:01 And we couldn't get past that gate because. In all of my experiences, I think he was the biggest one I've ever seen. His arms and legs were really, really thick and not just his shoulders or not just his chest, but like his, his shoulders, his arms, his legs were like. Massive. It was, I wish, I mean, I'd say probably about a 15 inch diameter on each leg. Well, were you able to see anything clearly about the head or the facial features at all when it was coming towards you?

21:42 I couldn't really see his face because of all of the hair. Um, it wasn't, it wasn't. Like really short hair. It wasn't extremely long, but I mean, it was, it was, and with him hunched over, I couldn't really see his face, but his head, I mean, it was proportionate to his body. I mean, it was, it was pretty big around too, but as for his face, I couldn't see much of his face. Interesting. Have you ever seen any individual in sports or movies that come close, that comes close to the size of what was coming towards you that day?

22:27 Um, close to the size, um, Andre the giant. Okay. Wow. That's pretty big. That's massive. He's a big, he was a big guy. Rest in peace. Uh, my goodness. Andre the giant. Fantastic. Um, so a few more questions about this. This is such an incredible experience. Um, now you mentioned you talked to some relatives. Um, did you ever re try reporting this to like forestry or anything, anyone in authority besides your relatives? Um, No, a lot of people I've noticed, I kind of, after I talked to my relatives, um, when I went to go talk to anybody else, they kind of just looked at me like I was crazy. And so I just kind of kept the story to myself after that.

23:22 And so it's the first time I've actually ever really talked about it. Wow. That's, that's incredible. Thank you for that. That's that, that really. means a lot that you are, are trusting this platform with your experience. Why, why choose to come forward now? Um, my, we've, my husband now and I have, um, experienced a lot and he follows a lot of Bigfoot things and, um, He's. The one that got me in contact with you and told me. To reach out to you to share some of our experiences.

24:02 This one that I just shared is one prior before I met him. And so I was relieved to be able to share that experience with him and him not be like. Okay, you're crazy. Absolutely. Yeah. Um, I was like, okay, well, yeah, I can, I can share the experiences and he's. He's very private. He doesn't like to share and talk a lot and everything. And so it's like, well, I can share our experiences and I can share my experiences. So I'll do it. Yeah. And thank you to him for, for reaching out to me through email. I remember talking to him recently. Um, now it's very, this, this story you alluded to this historical account, I found very interesting. You said that your, so your ex-husband's grandpa said this gate hasn't been open since the 1960s due to a Bigfoot attack. And there's a flipped over VW bus in the same area. I got that right, correct. Um, uh, so I guess leading up to that question is after this experience, When you have a traumatic Bigfoot experience, I've noticed that some witnesses will just completely shut down and they'll say, I don't want anything to do with this. But sometimes there's witnesses that really get into it and they're like, I need to figure this out. How did this affect you after you had your experience?

25:30 Um, so I, I kind of freaked out. I didn't, I didn't really want to go out in the woods anymore by myself. I kind of just self-isolated. I didn't, I, I was, I was traumatized. That's a good word. She said, um, it was, it was like, I'm not going to go looking for it anymore. Um, I actually didn't get involved with Bigfoot a lot after that because of that experience. But going out with my husband now, he's kind of reintroduced me and we've had a lot better experiences than that.

26:19 And it's something that I'm not. scared of anymore and more have like I guess of an understanding and respect of like okay well They're obviously not okay with me going over there, so let's not push it. And just like anybody else, you respect somebody's space. And once I got to that point of, okay, well, respecting how some things make me feel and how other things are reacting, it's been... I haven't had a traumatizing experience. I've had some.

27:01 some questionable and, you know, okay, this is kind of weird, but not nothing like that again. I think it's a really important point that you brought up there where it really does come down to respect with when you're dealing with situations like this and you're out there and, you know, just have, have respect. Don't try to trick them. If you feel like it's time to go, it's time to go. Don't push it, right? Exactly. Yeah. Absolutely. One more question about this first encounter here. So have you ever looked to see if you can find other experiences or encounters that have happened in the same area or any more information about the Bigfoot attack from the 1960s and flipped over VW bus?

27:56 Um, it seems like the P the people I did talk to, um, they were, they were a lot older. Um, the ones from the, the, that remember the whole 1960s thing. Um, they, they were a lot older and they, um, some of them were bloggers at that time. And, um, they shared a little bit of like, oh yeah, I know what you're talking about. Or yeah, they described the whole scene to me of there's the bus flipped over and I guess what had happened was they basically was doing what I was doing and they just went further up and then they started having issues with their car and it ran out of gas. And then, so they stayed in the Volkswagen bus. And then I guess that night is when the Bigfoot came out and they wrecked the whole camp that they had there and flipped the bus over.

29:06 And I'm not sure. That's where the story. That I was getting from them was, I'm not sure if the people made it out. Nobody really knows what happened. To the people that were there. But the forestry gate has been closed since then, I guess, except for when I went through. And when I talked to somebody else who goes and explores those mountains with me, and um they went up earlier that day and that gate was closed and so when it was open when I went up was was really really odd And I remember when I was up there, I was worried that, you know, the gate's going to be closed when I go back down.

29:58 And luckily it was open still, but as soon, I mean, we woke up early the next day to go back up there and it was already closed. And that extra logger information makes it even more fascinating. If anyone has any more information about that whole historical account, please reach out. Email is bigfootsociety at gmail.com. But Gloria, what a way to really get into the whole Bigfoot situation. But I am glad that you're at the point where with your current husband, you're able to, it sounds like you're able to move past that. And also, I guess we'll hear about next what has happened to you since then.

30:47 We're going down to, is it The Klamath area, correct? Yes. All right. Well, feel free to bring us through what happened to you down there. Yes. So we were originally camping and there was a fire and we had to be evacuated and we didn't want to ruin the whole trip with, okay, well, now we don't get to go camping. And so we decided, well, we're going to, take our RV and, um, make a little side trip and find a spot there. And we'll just camp for the night. Cause it was starting to get dark and, um, we find a spot and it.

31:34 Is really, really dark. And it is the, the woods there get really, really thick. Like the further in you go. And, um, there was a cow. in the middle of the road that was just ginormous. It was, I don't, I don't remember cows ever being so tall, but, um, we passed this cow and we keep going and the road starts to wind and everything. We find a nice spot to park and, and, um, he starts to barbecue some hot dogs and bake for us to eat. And, and, um, me and the other girls um we're in the rv and him and his youngest are out cooking and his youngest is staring behind them at a certain part of the trees and he's like dad bigfoot's watching us and And my husband's like very, you know, has that feeling of something's watching, but he's just wanting to go about his business like.

32:51 He's not paying attention. And then his son comes and sits next to him and says, Dad, now there's two. And, um, he, my husband then asked me, okay, well, can you, um, bring me some of the seasonings for this? And I was like, yeah, okay. And when I go, I have a seasonings in, in the RV and I go to take them out. And I remember standing on the step of the RV and I was like, I had this feeling of like, I'm not supposed to be touching this ground. And so I freeze up for.

33:33 A little bit and I'm staring at the same part of the woods that I didn't realize that our, our son was staring at and my husband notices and, um, I. Run out there, I give him the seasoning, I go back into the RV and, um, it was kind. Of scary for me because just that feeling alone kind of brought back to the past experience I had of like, no, I shouldn't be doing this. And he continues to cook the food and I have him bring it inside so we can eat. Cause I did not want to be out there. And we, we eat our food and we start getting ready for bed. And I'm in the bedroom of the RV and I, changing into my pajamas and I have this feeling that something is watching me and it's not like something far away watching me I feel like it's like right on the other side of the window watching me but I can't see out of the windows because it's now dark outside and the lights in the RV are on and I tell my husband, I'm like, something's out there and I can feel it watching me.

34:55 And he's like, well, let's just go to bed. And so he goes to turn on or turns everything off and he goes to turn on. I think the heater or something. And the RV starts to like, not want to start for it. And then he's like, okay, well, this is really, really weird. And he tries to start the RV and it will not start. And we, the fridge stops working. Like we're just having all of these malfunctions and the RV all of a sudden. And you can hear, the footsteps around the RV and everything. And there's like these, these whoops outside. And he's like, we need to leave.

35:49 We're not supposed to be here. And sorry, I'm trying to catch my breath. And so he finally, after probably about 10 minutes of just fighting with the RV, he finally gets it to start. And we, everybody's buckled at that time. We're like, we're leaving. And it seems like as soon as we said, okay, we're leaving is when the RV wanted to start. And, um, we left. And then the next day we came back, um, in our pickup and, um, checked out the area and there were these these dugouts all around where our rv were where like the dirt was dug out and it was kind of like a gosh i don't i don't know what they call it like in the military when they like dig out but they have like this berm in front of them And, um, but there was like three of them circled around where we were parked on the backside of the RV and where the, all of the pine needles were pushed back.

37:03 The dirt was pushed back and. Um, I remember when we were there, it stunk so bad that I was getting a headache. It was horrible. It was like somebody's really bad weed and a skunk had a baby. And I had a massive migraine. And when we went back the next day, the. Smell was still there, but it wasn't as strong. But that was, that was our first experience.

37:44 What year was this again? This was, this was recent. This was probably about 2005. Yeah. I think it was like early 2025. I was going to ask. Yeah. Cause that would 2025. Yeah. Cause that would be definitely more recent. So what, Uh, what time of year again? What? Um, it was, it was about summertime. Okay. Um, and then, um, I know then we got back, um, from that experience.

38:25 My husband did so much research and found out that the Klamath tribe talks a lot about Bigfoot and say, you know, that's one of the places you don't go there. And it kind. Of was like, okay, well, we've tried several different spots, but that spot, it seems like they really don't want you there. Gotcha. Right, exactly. How deep were the dugouts that were there? I'd say the dugouts were probably about two feet deep. And they were probably about, I mean... probably about six seven feet wide and you can you could see where like they they dug in with their fingers and like threw the dirt behind.

39:18 Them okay very interesting were the same children that were with you in the jeep also there during that i mean they would have been what like seven years older? Yeah. that experience, I think, no, they were, um, we had, we had three, uh, he had his three children and my children were at their dad's house. Okay. My ex-husband's house. So yeah, we have, we have the Brady bunch. We have six kids. That's cool. Yeah. I get it. I get it. Very cool. But whatever works, right. There you go. So, um, man, very interesting. So It didn't scare you off the area though. It sounds like you guys, uh, kept going back, but into different areas and you had other things happen. Is that right?

40:11 Yes. Um, so we could start the next experience. Absolutely. Um, so the next six, I don't know if it's like a different group of Bigfoot. Um, it seems like they have a very, um, more different, um, different approach to things but we found another spot and we kind of stay away from the spot that I just talked about because it's obvious they're more protective over that one but this other spot we've had a lot of experiences down and to where it's like we've actually kind of named um some of them and um we actually made a foot cast of.

41:01 Of one and um. But we went to this other spot and we we started camping there and the first time that they um they came and kind of introduced themselves and let it know you know they were there we were hanging out and towards the evening time, you could hear them, um, whooping and, um, walking around and you could hear like footsteps in the Creek. And, um, it was, it was kind of cool. It wasn't as traumatizing. And, um, that evening, um, we all got in our RV.

41:45 And we went to sleep and, um, I was, I stayed up and I was reading, um, a Bigfoot book that the, the evolution or, um, which I thought, yes, it was kind of a horror novel, right? Yeah. Yeah. And so I was reading that and my husband fell asleep and the kids were watching TV and we had the TV low and, um, we start hearing something, um, messing with the cab, the, um, cabinets on the outside of the RV next to where the bathroom is. And, um, We have one daughter that is really, really scared of things like this. And especially after her first experience, the one that I just described. And so she was like, what is that? What is that? And she's freaking out.

42:47 And I'm like, just calm down, you know. And then you can hear more footsteps and something messing with the other side of the RV. And, um, I have my window open with the screen on, you know, it's like, and then my husband had his window open with the screen on, and those were the only two windows open in the RV. And, um, My husband feels the RV start kind of rocking side to side because of them messing with each side of the RV. And he wakes up and he starts telling the children, stop moving around, go to sleep. I'm trying to sleep. And then it stopped for a little bit. And then once he started snoring again, they'd start messing with the compartments again.

43:35 And you could hear, like.... Almost like a murmur, like a loud murmur from the woods, like a mom is getting on the children about, hey, leave that alone. Don't mess with it. And then on... the front side, the front, where the driver's seat is, they start rocking the RV side to side. Like, you'd hear them, like, kind of, like, chattering to each other, and they'd rock to one side, and then they'd chatter to another, and then they'd rock to the other side, and they would keep doing that. And, um, I was like, okay, it's time to put my book down and turn off the TV and everything. And just hearing us moving around, they'll leave us alone. And it stopped for a little bit.

44:32 And then when I went and shut everything down, I went back to bed. I went to go close my window and I could hear them right outside my window with their chat, with their murmuring and chattering and their whooping and, um, I was like, I'm going to close my window because if they're trying to open the doors and they're trying to open the side compartments and they're rocking the RV, they might figure out how to slide a screen. So I'm going to close the window. So I closed the window. And the next morning I tell my husband, I'm like, you were yelling at the kids last night about like going to bed. but it wasn't them.

45:12 Nobody was moving. And I didn't sleep much because it went on most of the night, but you should go check outside. And he found several footprints around outside of the RV and there's handprints on the side of the RV where they were trying to get into the compartments and where they were pushing on the RV and causing it to rock back and forth. And, um, That was our first, our next experience at that, our first experience at that spot, but our next experience on. Okay. What, how recent is this?

45:57 That one was, that one was about 2025 too. Okay. Obviously later than the first one in the summer though. Yes. Yes. I mean, it was still summer, but it was just later in the summer. It was I mean, we go up quite often just because it's peaceful there and it's quiet and it's nice. Get away from home. Oh, yeah. One hundred percent. So do you have is this the one then where you have a cast of the footprints or do you have photographs of the handprints at all?

46:41 I think my husband has some photographs of the handprints. Um, cause that was, that was another thing that happened that night was, um, my, that my phone, I don't know. That's what just says not like phones. My phone was at like 86%. But it was dead. And, um, the only thing, electronic that was working was the TV. And we had that rant through a solar generator. And, um, but I mean, as for our RV working, I mean, it, it didn't have any technical difficulties. It was just any kind of handheld electronic was dead. Yeah.

47:31 That makes sense. Um, how, um, How long would you estimate the footprints and how wide the handprints that you saw? So the footprints, and we've concluded they're probably like an adolescent. They were probably. Because they're not as big as the other ones or as deep. And we have seen, like running across the trail or in the trees, smaller ones that were, I mean, they're probably about maybe some are five foot. One of them we've concluded we think is a female and she's probably around the six foot size. Their footprints are a lot smaller.

48:27 They're probably about, I'd say about. Maybe 14 inches. Okay. So yeah, definitely, definitely some, some younger ones going on there for sure. The, the handprints on the side of the RV, how did those line up with like, I don't know if you put your hands next to them. Sometimes people will do that. Oh, gosh, if I put my hand next to it, it's it's dwarf because my hands are small. But but my husband's it's he has some bigger hands and they're it's it's a little bigger than his hand. And he's he's about just over six foot. And um he's he's a bigger guy and i think he weighs like 290 and so he's a he's a bigger guy and um yeah they're they're a little bigger than his hand okay but the the thumb positioning is completely different from from his hand.

49:40 Tell me about that. So if you hold your hand in front of you and like just flat in front of you and where your thumb normally is, if you kind of stretch your thumb down, it's more of. It's kind of more of that kind of thumb positioned rather than our normal hand position. Does that make sense? No, it absolutely does. This isn't something I've talked about on the show, but I have a handprint from the Mount Hood National Forest and Cliff was nice enough to walk me through pretty much what you just said and explained. Like, look where the thumb is. It's because of their setup is different than ours is and pretty much just how you said. So that was very interesting to hear that from a different person. But yeah, you're absolutely right. It is definitely a little bit different for sure.

50:37 We have more experiences with this group. We've gotten it down to where when we go and visit, one time we took my sister-in-law up there and she wanted to find mini pine cones. And we were looking for these mini pine cones everywhere. And we always, we always try to leave a gift for them. And so we've lost them cherries and we've sat out there and like, this is how you eat it. It has a pit. Don't choke on it. Don't break your teeth. And like, and, um, they've eaten the cherries. They really like peaches. Um, but one time we brought them corn, like in the husk, like, And, um, we brought them corn and, um, this, this is.

51:32 Um, another, another issue, uh, another experience. But we, um, we're, we were looking for little mini pine cones that day. And then we went back to camp and we called it a night and everything, and we could still hear them looping and walking around and. And they come and get their peach or their cherries. And, um, one night we left them corn. And, um, we came. Back and they had eaten the corn almost like a banana. Like they, they peeled the husk back and they ate the whole corn and the cob and left the husks there.

52:14 And so we, we actually picked those up and we have those as well. But, um, where we had been leaving the gifts, they had left us flower petals and, a mini pine cone, like an immaculate mini pine cone right in the middle. And so we took those and, um, but it was, it's kind of cute because the, um, now when we go to visit, there's always a little pine cone there waiting for us. Oh, that's interesting. Like in the same area. Like they have a certain stump that they always leave it on. And that's where we leave our, you know, the peaches or the corn or whatever. And every time that we go, there's an immaculate mini pine cone. And I'm assuming it's because they've seen us walking around looking for mini pine cones. and um by the creek side you can see their footprints and that's when we got our cast and we've actually nicknamed one um which is the female she seems more comfortable with us because while we're sitting there during the day you can hear her on the other side of the creek just watching.

53:33 Us or um. She she's not very aggressive she just a lot of times she watches us and she's she's on the shorter side, like I said, and she's, she's dark and she has, I mean, it's not long, long hair, but it is kind of long. And, um, you can hear her playing in the creek, you can hear her whooping, you can see, and sometimes she'll come right towards the edge of the creek in the trees to where you can see her. Or if we are having a fire, you can see her walking around the outskirts of our camp, right where that line is of light. She's like right on the edge.

54:23 And we're pretty sure she's the one that's leaving us the gifts of many pine cones. And we've nicknamed her Catfish. Okay, so Catfish, the female Bigfoot, got it. Very interesting. Yes. Why did you call her that? Um, we, we nicknamed her catfish. Um, one, because, um, the first time that we heard her, she was playing in the creek and, um, I, she kind of, she kind of, I, we just kind of named her catfish.

55:06 Fair enough. Yeah. It's sometimes, you know, you. Know, my, my nickname's goldfish, so. Got it. Okay. Okay. That's cool. That's cool. Um, so yeah, you're right. I mean, these experiences, they are totally different than the first one you had. It sounds like so far that this group has really been a positive experience. Have there been any non-positive experiences with this group at all? Um, no, not really. Um, they're, they're very, I mean, I took the girls on a walk around, and where we were camping and we went through the woods and walked down the rocks and everything. And, um, we did get to an area where, um, there was a really loud, like almost like a war kind of thing. And the daughter that we have that was, is kind of scared about that stuff clung to me. And I was like, that just means we're not supposed to be here. Let's just walk back. Like nothing's wrong. Don't walk and run away.

56:16 Like you're scared or anything. Just let's just walk back. And, um, we found, we've explored that area, um, um, not before that, but after that, we've explored that area, um, with, with my husband and, um, there's trails and stuff. And we found where trees have been laid, like, like a shelter and, um, we've walked around there and you can, that's where we've came across, um, we're guessing the male of the group. Um, and he has, he has huge feet. Um, he's, he's gotta be an older, older one. Um, and while we were, um, we decided we're going to try to camp it that now we've kind of have a relation to them and they're bringing us gifts and everything we're going to try camping closer to to that area and um so we we started camping there and um I guess my husband was fishing there and he um he was catching these little fish and talking to them and then throwing them back and And he got to I haven't gotten to see the big guy yet, but he got to see the big guy and he was standing on the other side of the creek just watching him. And wasn't like

57:50 any kind of aggressive or anything, just just watching what he was doing. And he stood up and my husband said he had to have been like over eight feet tall. And when we saw his footprints, those footprints are probably about three inches deep. And they're probably about, I want to say probably about 18 inches long. And as for wide, they were probably about, that's probably about nine inches wide.

58:31 It's a big footprint. He seems to sit back and just watch the whole group where Catfish is. I mean, she still sits back and watch, but she does get closer. And the adolescents, they kind of, it seems like they just do what they want. Some of them, like I said, were like four or five feet tall. And they just kind of run around. You can hear them whoop. And it's not as deep as the big guys. And catfish is whooping. Is i mean it's not as deep as the big guys but it's not as it's not as um i guess like the adolescence it's just a little older um And, um, but they, they're very talkative and you can hear them talking back and forth and looping to each other. Um, they, we have had some tree knocks. It was just like, um, like, Hey, we're here or, um, but it seems like we're they're kind of, we're kind of getting used to their family and they're kind of getting used to our family. And it's, it's really nice to experience that they're leaving us little things.

59:52 And so we leave them little things and it's, it's turned into a fun thing. Not so scary. This is, it's absolutely incredible. Man, I have so many questions. So how long ago was it that your husband had the sighting of the male? The male? Um, so we've been working with them for about a year and catfish was the first one to kind of really, um, come out. The male just happened probably about maybe a month ago.

1:00:33 Okay. So July 20, 26, is there a nickname for the male yet? Or is catfish the only one that has been nicknamed? We've nicknamed catfish. He's trying, he's trying to, we were, we did come up with the name peaches because they like peaches, but we can't name the big guy peaches. That just seems wrong. So he's trying to, we're, we're trying to come up with a nickname for him. Gotcha. It's, it's, it's a work in progress. I get it. That's wild. And this is, so this is the first time, I mean, I haven't heard this any... Like, this is really the first time you're sharing this whole experience of you working with them, it sounds like.

1:01:20 Yeah. Wow. Yeah, we don't... And we don't really want a lot of people to, like, go looking for them and just kind of ruin their whole home. And it's just so... We haven't really shared it a lot because, you know, they're... Do. You want me to take out and just say Klamath area? Like I totally can do that. Yeah, we can do that. Yeah. I mean, I, it sounds like you guys have something really, um, incredible going on. And I, I, I think Klamath is big enough that that would be maybe better. What do you think?

1:02:00 Yeah, that'd be fine. Klamath area. Okay. Um, and then I'll catch that in editing. Okay. Wow, my goodness. So let's say out of you, your husband, and the children you normally have there, how many of the individuals that are usually there have had actual visual sightings? All of them. Everyone. How many people is that? Seven of us. Okay. And so you are, it sounds like you're not trying, you're just trying to have some sort of connection. I'm not getting a thing where it's, you're trying to take pictures or you're trying to record audio and like hunt them.

1:02:43 Like you're just. Yeah. It seems like, it seems like if we're, if we try any of that, they kind of stay away. But I mean, if we don't have anything and we're not, we're just hanging out, then they, they come. And hang out. Fascinating. Based on what you all have seen, you know, Catfish, the male, everyone else, I know some witnesses describe what they see as something that is more like an undiscovered ape. Sometimes it's something more like a human ancestor that's undiscovered or even Native American. How would you describe what you have been able to see.

1:03:32 In this area? I mean, I say it's probably, I mean, Bigfoot's been around for a while. The natives have even spoke about him and everything. I think, you know, and if you do more research, it seems like everybody, every country has their version of the Ganapithecus. And America, you know, they say, oh, no, we don't have that. We don't have that. But for every country to have a version of it, I would think that, you know, America would have one. And I think that would be Bigfoot because and as for, you know, just staying hidden and like, I mean, that's just because people haven't captured it and tested it.

1:04:23 And everything doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. And I. Mean, the language that they speak is almost like a native Indian language. It's almost like I wish I knew what language they were speaking so I could communicate. But the way that they talk to each other sounds native. And it's not really like our English language. And it's not really like your Spanish or your French. It sounds native.

1:05:11 But I think it's more like... You know, they're the guardians of the earth, the guardians of the land, like the natives say. And that's kind of how I feel. And it's just like, you know, if you're out there respecting nature, I don't think that they have so much of an issue with it, you know? Yeah, absolutely. As we said before, it comes down to respect. When. When your husband had the sighting of the male, how far away or what kind of distance was separating the two of them?

1:05:51 They were probably about six to eight feet apart. Okay. So six to eight feet apart. He's fishing. And then there's one right there. Six to eight feet apart. Yeah, on the other side. on the other side of the creek. My goodness how did that affect him because he's not here so yeah which i can't ask him directly so i was he like he thought excited or like freaked out or. Um he was just sitting there fishing and he he thought it was really cool that you know the male felt comfortable enough to finally introduce himself um but he was just watching him like wow that's That's one we haven't seen yet. But he was pretty excited about it.

1:06:47 But I mean, in the moment, he just stayed calm and continued fishing and started talking to him just like he was talking to the fish. And yeah, that's become like... more more of one of our spots now because it was just like okay well now that he he's comfortable with us um because the other spot where we were meeting with catfish and everything you can tell that she comes to the spot where we saw the big guy and you can see her footprints and everything and so it's just like. Just like.

1:07:27 We felt honored that they were sharing their private spot with us. That's absolutely fascinating. I can only wish myself to have an experience like that someday. Hopefully it will happen. So July 2026, are there things that have happened since then as well? Yeah. Well, we go up there pretty frequently because we're just like, oh man, I'm sure catfish misses us. And so we'll bring treats and gifts and stuff. But for the most part, it seems like every visit now, it seems kind of like the same. You'll hear them talking to each other and murmuring. Sometimes you'll get a boop, like they're calling them back in, like calling the children back in and like, okay, it's time to come back. And, um, but like I said, they're talking, you can, it's, it's like a native language and, um, you can, I mean, we can hear them talking and sometimes they'll be at on one side of our camp and talking to the other one on the other side of our camp. And, um, we haven't had them come right into camp, but they stay on the outskirts and you can hear them hanging out and talking to each other and everything.

1:08:53 And has there ever been anything that's happened in these areas that make you think that other people are aware that these Bigfoot are there as well? Um, there are signs, um, Like, there is a huge tree branch hanging from a tree that, well, I couldn't say hanging, but you can tell that this tree branch was thrown into the tree. And there is no way. That any person could have done it. Because it's, I mean, you had to have, like, thrown the tree, the branch at an angle of, like, For it to come down from 12 feet to hang down to about eight feet above the ground. There are like broken trees. There's broken trees. There's footprints everywhere. So, I mean, I'm sure other people have probably seen those kind of signs and know that they're around. but I haven't, I haven't talked to anybody else who has had any experiences. One, because I mean, we want to keep that spot private and, um, because we're working with them and they seem okay with us.

1:10:24 And so we don't want somebody to come in and ruin it all. Oh, absolutely not. You would definitely not want, which is why we're going to be careful how we reference the area. Um, Another something I've noticed in recent people I've talked to up in Mount Hood area is that they've had experience in an unmarked vehicles will be showing up almost within minutes. That's something you're not dealing with down there, it sounds like. We have had a. Forest ranger show up and he's like, hey, have you guys seen anything? And we're like, well, what are we supposed to.

1:11:05 Be looking for? And, and, and I was like, well, what is that? Hey, you know, what are we supposed to be looking for? And he's like, well, I just wanted to know if you've seen anything. And we're like, no, we haven't seen anything. And he's like, okay. And he's like, well, I'm just, I'm looking for poachers and I'm like poachers. And he's like, yeah, that's, that's a thing out here. And I was like, oh, okay. And I was like, well, have. You seen anything today? He's like, well, I mean, I had to wrestle with a cougar to get it out of a trap earlier by myself. That was pretty cool. And I was like, oh, okay, cool.

1:11:45 And he left. But I was just like, hmm, okay. And the first thing he said to me is, have you seen anything? And I'm like, well, what are we supposed to be seeing? That's highly suspicious. Exactly. My goodness. I've never heard anything like that. That's wild. I think stuff is starting to go down, to be honest with, that's just my personal opinion. Um, so in these, this area that you're now focused on, um, are you also experiencing other strange things that may not be related to Bigfoot?

1:12:27 Um, yeah. No, not really. It seems pretty peaceful and everything. Not really. Yeah, I wouldn't say I've seen anything else. Gotcha. No unexplained lights in the woods, things like that? No. Okay. No. Cool, cool, cool. Have you. Do you feel that there are certain ways that communication is happening between your group and the Bigfoot group?

1:13:12 I think it's more kind of like sharing of, I mean, if you go out there and you have this whole like, oh, well, yeah, I guess it's your demeanor is what I'm trying to say. your, your whole demeanor, um, your demeanor and your, um, like, like we've said multiple times respect and, um, I mean, we've gone out there and people have dammed up the creek with. Logs and stuff. And we've gone out. There and swam out into the creek just to unblock the logs.

1:13:53 And I mean, and they've watched us do it. And just kind of leaving everything where the way we found it and everything. it seems like, it seems like they kind of respect us for doing that. And we're showing our respect for keeping everything the. Way it is. And, and, um, But, I mean, when we talk to them, like, this is how you eat a cherry. It has pits. And it seems like they understand or they're watching us so closely. And I'd. Say more like body language and how you carry yourself while you're being watched and caring. the kind of learning, like, um, they've seen us get into the compartments of our RV and put things away and open them up and take things out. And so they're trying to turn the knobs, like they watched us and open the compartments the same way. And.

1:15:01 It's, it's a really fascinating, um, I mean, it's something that is happening to you currently, but it's really a fascinating case study as well. I'm getting just kind of thinking over everything you've shared. You guys are, it's not only a sphere of respect, but also you guys are in a way an advocate for the nature in that area. Like, as you said, you know, if someone dams up an area, breaking it down. So it's back to how it was originally. probably picking up trash. I would imagine if someone has left trash there, that's your, your camera that pretty quickly. Um, yeah, my goodness. That is, that is absolutely fascinating. Are, are there any other, um, times that you could think of where you have had, um, a actual, um, like a visual sighting, um, You've mentioned catfish so far and your husband seeing the one six to eight feet away.

1:16:06 Yes. And then the kids have seen the adolescents, like when we're out having a fire or whatever, you can see the adolescents playing on the outskirts of the light from the fire of like they're they're running back and forth and, um, sometimes they're playing with sticks. Um, we want to bring them a ball that way we can actually see the adolescents playing, but it seems like the, um, the kids see more of the adolescents and, um, there is, it seems so when the big guy is, is around our camp, um, I sleep really well, and my husband's up all night listening to him. But when Catfish is around the camp, he sleeps really well, and I'm up listening to her and the kids playing, or the adolescents playing. And we have noticed, we have caught on to that, to where we find that kind of strange sometimes. Because it's just like, okay, well, the dominant male is outside and I can sleep well, but he can't. And then when the dominant female is outside, I'm up all night and he can't sleep.

1:17:31 Do you have any thoughts about why that might be the case? Not really, other than, you know, I guess, I mean, just basic. basic biology, I guess. I mean, usually when you have, I don't, I, I'm not sure, maybe, I don't know. Yeah. I just, I have no idea myself. That is, that's, uh, that's a really unique one. Um, most people I hear. So let's say if you've got a situation where a Bigfoot is reaching out, to connect with someone in an area like this. And there's maybe even, not even visually, but sometimes, you know, if it could be like a dream or something like that, a lot of times it's like, if you're a male, there's a female one that will reach out to you and vice versa. So it's kind of a unique situation based on what I've heard where, you know, you have Yourself and Catfish and then your husband and the male of the group. So kind of cool.

1:18:48 What? What is... Do you guys have a certain goal that you are working towards with this family or group? I don't really even know what we call a family group of Bigfoot, but... Do you have any goals that you're working towards or just a connection? Um, no, not really a goal. I mean, it'd be cool to eventually get them comfortable enough to where they want to come closer. Um, like actually, um, it'd be kind of cool to sit down and fish the river and, you know, just one of them comes sit next to us. But, um, it seems like we've already kind of gotten to that point and they're just on the other side of the Creek. Um, so no, we don't really have a goal. It's just kind of cohabitating when we go camping.

1:19:47 I absolutely love it. I, I think it is a very cool, life experience, but also experiment. It's not really experiment. It's a life experience. But I'd say thank you for sharing what you guys have got going on, Gloria. I want to make sure that you were able to share everything that you wanted to share on the show today. It's been a really fascinating conversation. Yeah, I think that pretty sums up all of my experiences. Fantastic. Well, again, say thank you to your husband for reaching out and for getting us connected. And, you know, keep me in the loop, you know, maybe even check in with you in a year or so. And who knows what will happen next with you guys out in the Klamath area. But it's been a pleasure talking to you today. Thank you so much for coming on the show, Gloria.

1:20:49 Thank you. A special thank you to Gloria for coming on the show today. If you've had a Bigfoot encounter of your own, I would love to hear from you. You can send me an email with your encounter at bigfootsociety at gmail.com. I've come out with a free report about the top 10 Bigfoot hotspots. You can go over to bit.ly forward slash BFS report. I'm Jeremiah Byron. Thanks for listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'll see you in the woods.