Stalked in the Meadow at Sasquatch Sanctuary

0:00 Welcome to the Bigfoot Society. In this episode, we listened to a few callers from a recent Bigfoot encounters live from the big for Society YouTube channel, a horrifying encounter in the Shasta West and the area of California and East Texas. Bigfoot is What's in store. You've experienced something similar to what these callers have, or have more information regarding Bigfoot or other cryptids in the same areas, Please reach out immediately to me after this episode. Remember, your encounter could be the key to unlocking this mystery once and for all, so please don't hesitate to contact me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. I'm gonna have to call it Jeffrey back. There we go. Hello, Hi, is this Jeffrey? It is Hey Jeffrey is Stremia. Did you happen to fill out the guests release for him? Real quick? Oh? We lost him. I'm gonna try to call him back. Hello, Hey, Jeffrey, This Stermi calling you back. How's it going. It's going well?

1:03 Perfect? Did you actually before we go into that, we're getting a little bit of feedback in my own speaker or something like that. Yeah, I turned mine off. Okay, perfect? Okay, I'm good. Now were you able to fill the guest release form real quick? Jeffrey, I was perfect. All right. Well, I'm very interested and the rest of the chat is interested in what you've experienced, So I'll go ahead and let you take the floor. My friend, Well, it's a little convoluted. Last summer, I'm a professional illustrator and artist and writer and wife and I had separated and sold our house and for the summer, I'm from northern California.

1:53 I decided to kind of camp my way down to Cascades to hang out with some old friends down in the Reading Ear area. And I'm a lifelong outdoorsman and I needed to get away and you know, just chill. It had been a rough spring for her and I and everything's good with us, by the way, not a bad thing in a way, but anyway, so I needed to go chill. So in June, after a family stary Mooney over in Eureka, I decided to head over towards a place that friends and I had camped out for many years. Now. I'm not going to name any particular places. I'm going to keep that secret because I plan on going back after what I experienced, and I don't want a bunch of people going there, no problem, or was I so a place we had camped out for many years in the back country. I'll say it between shafts and lasso and leave it at back about six thousand elevations back country in June, and of course last year was a very snowy year for California, much like it's going on right now. Actually. But as I got back farther than farther into the backcountry, going up blogging roads to this place, a lake that would camp out for decades friends, and I got to a place where I couldn't go any further because of snow, and so I parked and got out and walked down the road farther, thinking maybe the road would open up again,

3:25 and it didn't. It just packed with snow. But as I was looking around, I always look for tracks and things like that, and not necessarily bigfoot tracks. But coming up out of this valley where this lake is, was I don't know, one hundred feet of tracks in the snow, which I took video and photos of. I actually started my own little YouTube channel to share some of the stuff that I'm going to talk about. I couldn't get any farther back to this place. And by the way, over the years we have heard would not back there, and I have found tracks back there in previous years. Anyway, so I ended up camping there in the snow, thinking, well, you know there's tracks right there, I don't need to go back down to the lake and camp for the night.

4:14 And nothing happened. And by the way, I can't quite a bit by myself in the back country. Doesn't bother me. So I go on down to Chico Sea buddies and friends. I took the photos and videos, of course, which was freaking all my friends out seventeen's tracks. And I'm a big guy, by the way, I'm six three and two forty and with a side thirteen and these tracks dwarf mine. Anyway, I come back up to Seattle, see friends. I'm living in the Seattle area and do some stuff. I have a gig down in LA for the month of August, working on a film, doing Concept Park, so I've got time to kill.

4:55 And I decide now that I have a gig lined up, I have a plan, but I have whole month of July to kind of just kill. And the tracks have been on my mind quite a bit, but now I need to work on some parts. I decided to go up to a place that I'd not been to in a long time. And it's this very tiny little camp Crown, not I would say, within ten miles of the place where I fell in the snow trackh And this is now mid July, and I plan on going up for three nights. And this is July sixteenth.

5:36 I arrived at this place about noon. It's beautiful. Redding was one hundred and eleven degrees. It was seventy two where I cut feo camp, so that was wonderful. I set up camp, I get some wood, you know, I sleep in the back up my truck in a campy truck. I just make a nice bed back there, tailcat down, pointing at the fire. That's generally how I can't As evening went on. Oh and by the way, the place seemed weird right off the back, very quiet. I always look around for tracks, just to see what company I might have, as in bears or cougars or whatever deer. It's just one of my things. I do. Mean, I didn't see any tracks, which I found freaking, very freaky, very quiet, very strange to me.

6:30 Right off the back, it's beautiful up there, very quiet, very beautiful, so I'd go about my day. But that evening I'm sitting by my campfire and the boys hair standing up on me already. It's dark. It's dark. You can see the sky a little bit, but the underbrush, the trees. And I'm also down in a tiny little valley that's actually the headwaters of a drain, and it's just a little valley really, it's not very big. At the top of the mountain ridges like a sixty feet again, you can't see the underbrush that forests around me, just from a campfire. Across this, about thirty feet in front of me is a dry creek bed, which is the top of the strange but in it in places is water, but in front of me it's dry. Your creek beds five six feet white at the most, filled with pebbles and rocks, just to give you the idea. And across that creek, through some trees is a large meadow, which there's photos of about maya YouTube channel. There's a large metal, beautiful metal. It's just a big seep spring, is what it is.

7:43 Somewhere at the top of that tree line above the meadow. I hear something scream and bark and it's not super loud, but there's plenty loud enough that I can hear it. And I've never heard anything like you. And I'll come back to that in the next I actually went through a library of listening to vocalizations, and I'll tell you about that in a minute, anyway, And what the hell is that? And immediately after that, crash bang, boom, snap, trees, limbs, brush, something big, is something piste off. I'm like, well, okay, this is interesting.

8:26 And then again I can't see anything beyond my camp fire. My trust picked a table right here with me, beat fire pit. Something in the creek bed in front of me scatters pebbles and rocks, and this creek bed is forty feet in front of me and I can't see it. I don't know what it is. And all this has just happened boom boom, all like successful. I don't scare easy. I can't buy myself all the time in the back country. It does not bother me. I have scared lankety blankety blank. I do something I've never done in my life. I get in front of my truck and I spend the night in the front of my truck.

9:09 It's scared the hell out of me. I'm shaking right now as I talk about it. I get up the next day and I'm like, wow, So the art project's kind of now out of my mind completely. I'm supposed to be sketching art while I'm up here and chilling, but now this happens, Like, oh wow. So I checked the camp over and at the other end of my camp at maybe camp little camp around, I should say, there's just a couple of places there to camp. It's a nice little camp around. There's a pipe that comes out of the ground with some spring water coming out of it, and near that pipe, and there was no tracks there the day before. It as I looked, it's a fresh fifteen inch track in the dirt, which I take videos and photos of and it's perfect. I actually send it to a Cliff at the Oregon Museum there in Oregon. Cliff, I can't think of this last name, but I know you know me, and we talked for an hour on the front about this. Later anyway, I find also by that by the pipe, the waters are the grounds a little muddy where it comes out and it quickly disapproves into the ground. That's just you know, late summer and getting dry.

10:20 But there's also a big muddy footprint where you can see the toes because it's on a little bit of the slope, pushed into the mud as it's stepped on up the hill. Yes, that's racing, and thank you, and I take photos of all that stuff. I spend the day getting looking around, and I keep looking at that meadow. I can go down and you know, fifty yards from my camp and look up into it. It's a really big metal but I see I call them inconclusive tracks like they're older weathered, but they look like and I keep looking at the meadow. It scares me. I don't want to go up in that meadow where that thing came down from that evening dusk, same scenario dusk and it comes out again up there and screams and barks. Bark is a better term for it. It's not feeline like a cougar bear's shirt. Don't do that. There's coyotes there.

11:20 It's not a coyote. What else could it be? So no crashing and banging thought, just the bark yell and nothing else, I do sweep in the back of my truck. That night, I do get the courage to get back there. Third day, I finish up art and stuff, and I'm thinking I'm going to push the envelope a little bit tonight. So I go stand and sit in front of that meadow at dusk. Maybe don't catch a picture or something, you know, who knows. But I get scared again. I don't get scared, you know, it's I just it's not my nature up in these sort of places to be frightened. But this spooky as hell. And over the three days it's continued to be quiet and weird. Definitely a feeling of being watched, because there's slopes on either side of my little camp up on the other side and above the meadow and back behind me, even a steeper slope for the trees that I can't see up.

12:16 So I walked back up the road and I go, I'll walk on up the road past my shoe. I'll go up the way where I found that dirt print the day. And I moved very quietly for a big guy, lifelong outdoors, and I'm moving up the road. It's very quiet, it's not quite as dark as it was, you know, the previous two nights. I'm moving around Will still a little bit light, and we catch my breath there and start to shake a little bit. After all this time, I'm still processing all this. But about thirty or forty feet up the slope, you know, the steeper slope to run right in the trees, there something bricks cover and it's big, and it's loud, and it's crashing and it's banging. I can't see. Rocks and dirt drop down to my feet from down through the trees, small rocks and cobbles, just you know, not very big. Just think tears up through the trees up above me.

13:18 Again, I can't see anything, and it stops. I don't know, it can't be stopping far fifty yards maybe forty yards. I'm guessing it didn't. I mean, it wasn't racing up the hill for very long, so it didn't get very far up and it stops and it screams and barks down at me. And it's right up there above me, and it's loud. I mean, the branches and limbs that was breaking as it tore up the hill. It's big again. It's not a cat or a bear or a coyote, or a raccoon or a turkey. It's something huge and pissed off, and it just screamed and barked down at me. Stupid me.

14:01 I have my phone on me, but I am frozen. Now you've read or listened to other stories where people either faint or they can start running like crazy or any of that, right, well, stupid me, I just I freeze right there. I mean, it's almost like a predatory shock sort of thing where they scream and bark at you. You've kind of stunned for a moment. I don't think it was that sort of fact, I mean purposely, but I felt, you know, shocks. I look down at my truck, which is, you know, fifty sixty yards away, So I start walking slowly back down towards that truck. I'm not running and walking slowly, and that thing parallels me up there along the ridge line, like, you know, forty fifty yards above me, thirty yards, and it screams and barks at me, breaking and snapping limbs and branches five or six times, paralleling me along that ridge while I get back down to my truck, and while I'm getting back to my camp breaks and snaps stuff up there for twenty or thirty minutes, and then all goes quiet, and I'm like, are you effing kidding me? What the hell was that thing? And I'm like, my god, I spend the night in the front of my truck again. No way, I'm I sleeping then after my truck and in fact, where I camp in other places, I often sleep on the ground.

15:22 I'll like to tarp out, you know, stop raining and the weather's nice, my son and I will just step the bag and tarp and we'll lay on the ground. No way I would do that in this place. Next morning I leave, I have to go down to La and do my thing. Well, I'm down there working on this project. Half of me is well, three quarters probably thinking about what happened. I'm trying to process all that. It's just you know, what I told you is what happened. So imagine you're there trying to cross. Trying to is just crazy. So first of September, I'm going to come back. I get to Seattle Course. By this time I had a little bit of a plan. I bought three trail camps, and I bought some nice vision goggles. And when I get up to Redding, and I'm going to buy a week's supply, and I'm going to go out for a week, and I'm going to have an artist friend meet me for the last couple of nights. So up on September fourth, on a Monday, up I go. I get up there, I make camp and now you know, I'm not thinking about art or anything. I'm thinking about this. So I start looking for tracks. I mean walking around shooting video of everything I do, every little excursion out of my camp, I video. I'm finding tracks. I'm starting to take photos.

16:41 I keep looking at the meadow and there's an area adjacent to the metal that we end up turning the thicket. It's really against bush with the creek running down, this dry creek that now has water in it down at that area runs down through it. And I keep looking into there and it's very scared. The meadow thicket where this thing originally came down from its real spooky. The hell, the whole area spooky to me. Now nothing happens except for me taking the ticks and stuff. Very quiet, very beautiful. Nothing that night, nothing, the next day, me going around finding more tracks, taking photos. On Wednesday, I actually the hill behind me where that thing was screaming and yelling at me and paralyzing me, stalking me almost.

17:30 I grew up one of the one of the steep trails up that way. I'm following old tracks and with I don't know, fifteen twenty feet of me. A rock comes down from high above, flooding down through the trees. And it wasn't a fine tone. There wasn't something bouncing down from some loose rock or something that was thrown at art out up above and dropped down. And my son told me later he goes know what that meant? Dad? And I go, no, what, and he goes out, turn around, and which is what I did. I turned around, went back down the trail camp. So this is Wednesday again. No yelling, no barking, none of that. But I'm finding tracks everywhere. Also when I can't, I'm quiet. I have a dark four by four, you know.

18:26 I parped the back in in case it rains. Very quiet, don't slam the door. I try to blend in with my surroundings. Wednesday comes around and I'm doing the same thing. I decided to venture over towards the thicket. Actually that might have run on Wednesday Adventure over toward a thicket and I actually get the balls to excuse me to inch my way in their ways. And it's very dry, so you're making noise, even me, who's very good, I'm making noise. It's nott the branch here or whatever. As I inched my way in here, something and it's on the video. Something snaps a big branch and it's loud. It's within thirty or forty feet in the bush there, which I can't see into. It's just bush, but it's something moved and snapped a branch. And also at this point I smell a kind of a wet animal smell, not bad but not good, you know that kind of thing. But in the middle of the day, which is the only way I would come over here to the thicket, is in the middle of the day. Be a great place to hide. Is cool?

19:44 Well, like twenty minutes, we play a cat and mouse game. It moves, It's very stealthy. It moves and stops. I hear it moving. I move a little bit and stop. I know it knows I'm there, and I know you know it knows I. I know that it's there, and I shoot video. The whole time and I find back out of there. Nothing happens. I just cheer the branches and the moving there in front of me. The smell this animal smell. Now, if it was a deer, it probably would have broke over and run. I don't know. It might have been an animal, but it smell like no deer. Sure not going to smell a bear, mind from that distance. But I got that too. So anyway, the next day comes, This is Thursday. My friend's going to show up the next day on Friday. They'll be there for Friday and Saturday. Thursday, go about my business. I do more excursions to find more stuff. I actually go up through the edge of the meadow and find big long stride muddy trails going up into the meadow.

20:51 A lot more photos that night. Again, I've not heard any barking. You're no branch breaking, none of that's happened so far, just you know, me going around taking photos of tracks. That night, laying in the back of my get you tailgates down. I'm laying there and I drift off to sleep, and there's a deep fire pitch so I can have a good fire going. Now, this is probably the spookiest thing that even over the July stuff, this really spooks the hell out of me around eleven or twelve. You know how you hear sometimes something going on before it sinks into your brain that there's a noise or something. And you wake up and you hear something going on. It's kind of taking a minute or so for to wake you up. Well, I hear I'm woken by a very shrill, loud whistle and it's right there in camp, across the fire from me, right an edge of my fire. I can't see it, but it's loud, you know, the classic shrill, real you know. I think somebody, it might have been Meldrum described it. You know, it wouldn't been Meldrum, might have been Green describing it like a teenager with two fingers in his mouth filling the whistle. And it does it another time, and it does it again. And by that time I was asleep. I'm coming away from trying to find my phone. I get it turned on. By that

22:22 time that had died off. Maybe saw me move and I don't know, but it woke me up to those whistles. Wow. And it wasn't a freaking turkey at midnight, waking me up. I mean, I don't know what hell else it could be. And by the way, I've never seen anybody up there except some cal fire people who I talked to, who also told me that they were freaked out by the place, which I found very interesting. Anyway, I'm awake now, but I'm afraid to move. I don't want to get in the front of my truck. I don't want to move, I don't want to get out telget to the back of the truck. But nothing else happens. I eventually fall back to sleep. That thing came into my camp and woke me up. The next morning ten three from my tailgate, I find a fresh track. That thing came over and maybe even looked in at me. I don't know it right there in camp with Andy shows up the next day. He is immediately speak by the whole area.

23:26 We ended up going way up into the meadow. We shoot a lot of video, We find tracks, we find more tracks, We find scat that we don't recognize. That night, we get up the courage because I hadn't the courage to go anywhere after dark except right into my truck. We walk around a little bit with the night vision. We don't see anything trail camps. So far, I hadn't picked up anything. We go all over the meadow. That next day, on Saturday, we drive around the back of the mountain just to take a break it. It's a short drive. We stop in some areas with a drop off and a beautiful view, and sure enough, in the hard ash of the hillside, there our tracks.

24:15 I try to walk on that little it's like seeing it, trying to walk on it. I stood right back down it and this thing it easily just stepped right down through that and right onto the road and on about his business. So we get out and we look around that area. Sure enough, we front tracks all over the place there, which I take video and photo. We've sit up a drone to look around and do the see a thing. But that whole time we probably shot eight hours of video that week. The next day Sunday, we leave and come back up north. And that's my story. Yeah, that that is incredible. I can definitely tell while you were telling the story that you have been through a lot, and I don't know how you would even stick around that area after experiencing the whistle across the campfire from you. Well, my friends told me about the July episodes.

25:17 They would have left immediately after the barking, yelling, screaming, snapping. But you know what, one stupidly brave, I guess for something. But my curiosity is what got me need to know more, right, And when I came back in September, and Andy said this, he goes, and Cliff also commented about this when we had our long talk. He goes, it remembered you, maybe because I was finding the same tracks in September. I was finding other size tracks, but I was finding this one distinct track that I found in that dirt in July. I was finding you begin in September. So that same individual was in the area. And Cliff thinks it remembered me when it was probably curious, This is according Cliffers and want paraprated one. It remembered me in September, curious about me, why I would come back and I can't the same spot and saying, you know, everything the same, quiet, dark, everything exactly the same, He goes, one. It remembered you one. It was probably curious of why you didn't run screaming down the road like a normal person would have done, or left or whatever. You stuck around, and then in September, when it might have been watching me the whole time, there were a couple of hunters that had come through just scouting areas, and so there were a few more people that week, and I saw in July maybe it was just more wary,

26:49 and finally, after a few days of me by myself, it finally came into camp and woke me up. Cliff thinks it was trying to communicate in a way. Maybe my friend Andy laughingly said, maybe it's a female. One thing's for sure. If it wanted to take you out, it could have taken you out. So I would probably agree with Cliff that it was trying to communicate with you, because dude, it could have taken you out easy. It was so close. Oh yeah, sleeping truck when you know, if it looked in the tailgate at me. So I'm laying right there, you could easily grabbed me. Just for classification for later. Did you say this is in the Shasta area between Shafts and Lawson. Sorry, what's the second word? Again, I'm not overly familiar with out there Mount laughing Mount Lasson, Okay, gotcha. It's the most southern volcano with the Cascades is easter ready, and that's Mount Shasta. Mount Shasta is north and I thought north towards Oregon. If you go east from Reading, you'll see Lawson. It's a Volcanic National Park. Actually the first national Oh yeah, I see it last in Volcanic National Park. Thank you for being patient with me. I'm an Iowa guy. So you know, God, we don't have many volcanoes out here. Are you very you get about a ready twenty

28:21 miles and install it's beautiful out there? Are you planning to go back at a later time? I am, wow? Please keep us. Actually day when I got down to La, producer Fan actually took me in the studio and recorded me. Well, the thing was still fresh in my mind. Oh that's great, and he might be trying to get some funding for me to go back up. Hell yeah, I'm definitely going back up. It's got the curiosity bug get me not too much. And it didn't hurt me. I saying it won't. I mean I might not ever have an Internet with it again. But I think I'm going to Wow, I really age.

29:04 I think I stumbled into a spot. I actually call it Sasquatch Sanctuary. I think it's just a special place that no one knows about. People go through there, people have camped at this place. You know, there's to go through occasion, but no one has experienced what I'm experiencing. Absolutely. Thank you well, Jeff, thank you for calling in, and please keep us in the loop for if anything in the future happens. And yeah, we'll definitely check out your channel I've got it. Looks like we've got a few people else that have called in, so we need to check in with them. But Jeff, please, if anything else happens, contact me directly big for Society gmail dot com so that we can get an updated what's happening to you? Okay, thanks, thanks for being patience for the long call. Oh it was incredible, Jeff. Thank you again for sharing what's on your heart. Have a great night, sir, take care. Oh that was an incredible account from Jeff. Let's go ahead and call someone back.

30:15 Let's see who we got hm. Okay, Oh, hi is this Jared? Yes, sir, Hey, Jared, this is Jeremiah calling you from big Foot Society. How's it going good, Jeremiah? How are you awesome? Yeah? So I got your message. You tried to call in and it sounds like you have a few encounters or things that have happened to you. You were more than welcome to share what you'd like to if you've experienced some interactions with Bigfoot. Yeah, definitely. I guess it kind of goes back to around nineteen eighty seven thereabouts, and this was in East Texas.

31:22 I live in eastern Oklahoma now, but I remember the first time was I had just joined the National Guard, but I hadn't been the basic training or any of that yet, and I was issued a lot of equipment and it was perfect for camping and things like that. So that's what I did. I all that equipment and told my best friend, a let's go camping. That's the stuff out and we did. We went to a place outside of Fruitvale, Texas, which back then was a lot less crowded with cityfolk.

32:09 It's kind of gotten like that now, but there's still some good places where there's not many people. And that's where we were then. So we went and we camped out behind where his parents were renting one hundred and sixty acres was probably a forty acre sweet potato field that also had the rest of it basically woods, and then behind that was more woods interspersed with fields, hills, and basically wild country. At the time, there weren't a whole lot of deer or wild hogs, but tons of fish in the creeks, and there were a lot of creeks in that area, the main one being Mill Creek. So we took it upon ourselves and went out there. And the way we used to hunt back then and camp everything else was we didn't take food. If we didn't kill something, we didn't eat, and that was part of our I guess encouragement to make sure that we became better hunter's, woodsman and everything else. So we killed birds. I'm not going to tell you what kind, but we had birds, we had food. He got a rabbit, which was unusual for him because he wasn't that great a

33:42 shot. But anyway, we ended up building us a fire cooking our meat, and he had actually brought a guitar and about a mile hide wasn't too bad, but he'd carry his guitar with us, and after we ate, he's turned the guitar saying some songs. And we were tired long day. We went to sleep well after a while, and we weren't totally asleep yet, I guess. But we heard what sounded like something being thrown into the creek, which was probably forty yards from us. We were slightly uphill from it, but we could tell by the sound that it wasn't something in the water making the noise. It was something being thrown into the water. And if you've been around water and out in the country enough, you know the difference. And if it's a beaver, yeah, that's a big loud slap with the tail. This wasn't any of that. This was something being thrown into water. And in that part of East Texas, there's not really rocks.

35:06 There's tons of trees, but there's not rocks, So something being thrown in there was going into the water with a big, decent sides flash. So we listened to it and it was maybe it's hard to say the distance, but it was just audible enough that we could hear it over the fire and it steadily got closer to us, and it's like, what in the heck, there's nobody, no houses in this valley area over in even though we're up on a little bit of a hill. Sometimes that area floods and it's like there's no houses, there's not typically anybody out there. So we're laying there listening and steadily the splashing keeps coming towards us, closer and closer.

36:09 Then we hear it and we're actually kind of facing north the way we're laying on this hill. Then we hear it coming from the south. We didn't hear any localizations anything else. We deter the splashes. We hear it start coming from the south too, and that never came to our position, but the ones coming from the north eventually got right by us at the creek, which, like I said, is about forty yards away. And we had at the time like a four D cell mag light, which was primo back in the day, and we're signing those lights and all we can do.

37:00 The best we can do is catch the end of a splash, but it's still not the splash that a fish or anything like that. From under the water with me, we can't see eye shine, We can't see anything on the other side of the bank. Lord knows back then, those splash lights weren't that good. We can't see anything other than ripples in the ends of splashes. And you know, we were armed, and I stood up and I'm like, hey, anybody over there, you better stop it. I'm going to start shooting, which I did not intend to shoot, but it's just the way we were the mentality. But nothing happened after that.

37:52 After a little bit, it stopped and we never heard another thing. We ended up going to bed. I want to see nothing else the rest of the night, and I wish to God that we would have gone across the creek the next morning and looked, because the only thing I can guess is maybe whoever whatever was doing it was making mudballs and throwing those in, because other than that, I couldn't tell you what it was. Did you ever go back to that area later in life? Oh? Yeah, His parents lived there, so you know, we kind of in the summers, and anytime I had off because I lived close to Dallas, and anytime we were able to get together, I would go over there and I would even back then, I would pay the money to go on the bus and him and his parents would pick me up. So there's a couple other stories about that area. I was just gonna ask, Yeah, okay, there was another time and it was almost exactly the same scenario and everything except for nothing happened,

39:31 and we camped in the same basic area, not quite in the same place. But that night I woke up and I thought that if that trains lad, sorry, but I woke up. I don't know why. I guess I said something or whatever, but I saw what I thought was my buddy, same guy, just over the top of the hill, go across where the moonlight was, which wasn't much moon but there was enough to be light, and then nothing. I went back to sleep, and the next morning he got up before I did, and he came and told me, Hey, look at this. And there were a bunch of I guess like little mole hills and things like that around this area and on top of this hill. And he's like, hey, look at this footprint. And it was probably I think he wore a size twelve, and it was somewhere in the area of his size afoot, but it wasn't his foot and it was

41:02 much wider and broader through the width and linked of it. I'm like, well, yeah, wasn't that you that woke me up last night? Did you go to take a leak or what? He's like, I just now got up to pee. I didn't get up all night I supt good. You know, jim Bean may have helped that, but you know I can tell you, oh, well, y'all were drinking. Well that never makes you a loose nate, come on. So anyway, he's like, he showed me his footprint. I went up there, looked at it. It's like, well, that's kind of weird. And I made him swear ten times that day that it wasn't him that did it. And you know, good Christian boy, you went to Christmas School and all that, which doesn't mean he was a great guy. He's a really great guy. Anyway.

42:02 No, that was another instance there in that almost same spot. The next sort of counter encounter happened just a little bit away from that. So what do you think about that one? You know, I think that it's very interesting. I like that there is actually a track scene. That's pretty cool when it is weird though, when you have stuff thrown at you, for sure. You know, I've had a tree pushed over in front of a campsite we're at before, and that stuff, I mean, that stuff can really get you. When you start to see a footprint like you guys did, that's pretty cool. Yeah, And as far as stuffing stone at us.

42:54 It never was as far as we knew, but it was stolen in the creek, coming towards us from a decent you know, little ways away, and dad just doesn't make sense, you know, as far as I know about Bigfoot and the way that they act, sometimes it's just weird that noise kept coming towards us from let me guess, from the valley. Like I said, it's hard to tell how far away, but it was probably twenty minutes and let me just guess an eighth of a mile away. I could be off. I don't know, but it was weird hearing it far to us at the time, away like that, and then coming towards us, and then hearing it from the south behind us. You know, what else does that? A lot of these things are what could it be?

44:06 Well, it's easier to say sometimes what is it? Not? How many people would know that we were out there doing a camping thing when there's hardly any people out there anyway? You know, so many questions, And again as the rabbit hole, it really is, you know, it's a rabbit hole. You find, you know, a place, and the stuff starts to happen, and then I mean, you can just keep going and going, but do you think you might ever go back someday? Well, that's probably yeah. You know that's I live in Oklahoma Ozarks now, and that's you know, that has a couple of different things related to Bigfoot for me now. And I'm not saying I've seen a whole lot. I've probably seen, for for sure three times in my life a sasquatch. And this is East Texas, East Oklahoma, And actually I can narrow that down to too, but some of the other weird things that have happened really don't coincide with

45:37 anything else. So if I can move on to the next one for East Texas, there in that same area. Okay, this was in that same area, on the other side of the road that cuts into that valley, and same guy, me and my best friend we were had gone deer hunting, and back then there weren't a whole lot of deer in that area, but we deer hunting anyway. It's the only place we had to go, so we were on the other solid road I guess someone else's property, But you know, that's kind of the way we did things back then. Younger guys and my apologies for doing the wrong thing, but we were over there.

46:35 We'd gone deer hunting on the other side, didn't see anything. We got board, still wanted to go hunting, so we went to the other sidid road and it was a little bit higher elevation, and this was a lot more thickly wooded. And I had had some success with colle in hyots and the occasional bobcat that we hadn't got a shot at yet, but I was pretty good on the right to call, so we decided to do that.

47:15 We went to the spot, picked out kind of a clearing in the woods that wasn't that big. Maybe if you looked at it from above. It was probably twenty yards around more or less. Not a good description, but you get the idea. He was on one one side of that little clearing. I was on the other. Both of us had our backs against a decent sized tree which is maybe foot and a half across, so it covered us from behind and we could see each other and around each other towards the front and back, and I started blowing down the predator car and I blew fairly that at first, you know, as you're supposed to do, and did that for about thirty seconds, wait a little bit. We're both kind of being real still but looking around with our eyes. Don't hear, don't see anything. So I started doing it again. It's a predator call, not as I this time, in case anything's sneaking up it. For about maybe a minute, this time I stopped. We're both looking around,

48:54 same situation as before, don't really see anything. I go to blow the on the pread or call the third time. Right as I'm bringing it up, I hear this loud brigading start and I'm like, oh, and I know my eyes got huge. I looked over at my best shirt and sitting over there against the other tree, like fifteen feet away. I'm like with my thumb and my rifle's laying across my chest or my sighs. I'm leaning against the bottom of the tree so my hands where I can move it without anything behind me seeing it. So I start pointing with my thumb from my best friend to look behind me because something is right there, because it's suddenly breathing loud, and he's like his eyes are big too, which I didn't even notice at first because I was like shocked, and I guess I made the first move because he is like shaking his head kind of slow but enough that I can pick it up. And then he lifts his thumb up and

50:25 he's trying to point back behind him, so I start looking behind him. I'm like, I shake my head at him. No, and I put my thumb back behind me a little bit quicker this time. No, it's behind me, and he's like shaking his head. At this point, we both start shaking our heads and pointing behind us. And we did not hear anything come up on us. We did not see anything. And this is in late fall, leaves all over the place. We did not see or hear anything other than that breathing. And within probably thirty seconds, it just kind of went away. It didn't stop suddenly. It just kind of like goes to the way. I don't know how else to say it. Some very strange things that you've encountered over the years. For sure, I met at a and I'm trying to remember what year it was. I couldn't even tell you there was a group there probably still is GCBR Gulf Coast big for the research and organizations I got you, yeah, and I they had their

52:00 first ever conference. I guess down somewhere just north of Houston. Me and my best friend, actually I was living in the South Texas at time. We both were able to make it there. And I talked to their founder, Bobby Hamilton, and I told him about that, about the breathing, and he said that he had experienced the same thing, except it was in a pitch black night and he walked out side of their deer hunting cabin to go to the out house and he heard the same thing, but he had that flashlight and he's like, I was terrified to turn that light on because I knew that thing was right there next to me. But he said when he turned the light on, there was nothing. He spun around quick and he didn't see anything. But he said that breathing was that close to him that he knew he was either dead or he was about the crap. And I don't know credibility these people or anything like that, but I do know this is what happened way before I had ever known about the Internet or any of this stuff other than you know, of course here in big fliot story, isn't it, kid? Jared, thank you for calling in and sharing

53:39 some interesting things that have happened to you over the years. It sounds like you probably might have some others to share in the future. I would invite you to do so again if you feel like doing so at a later time. But thank you for calling in tonight. Yeah, I appreciate it. I just wanted to take a few minutes to say thank you to you all my listeners for listening to the podcast. Please take a minute to help out the show by subscribing on YouTube, making sure you hit the bell so you don't miss any notifications, and share the episode on YouTube with a friend. Also, if you're listening to us on a podcast, thank you so much.

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